WEBVTT - Winning the Lost, No Matter the Cost, Part 2

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<v S1>Paul says, I owe a debt to Jesus that I

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<v S1>pay to you. How do you pay your debt to Jesus?

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<v S1>Tell somebody else about him. Because the gospel is just

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<v S1>one beggar telling another beggar where to find bread.

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<v S2>This is treasure truth with pastor and author James Ford Jr,

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<v S2>senior pastor of Christ Bible Church in Chicago. I'm Steve Hiller.

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<v S2>Glad you're with us as we continue a message winning

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<v S2>the lost, no matter the cost. And pastor, really a

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<v S2>great challenge and reminder for us today that we, if

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<v S2>we have been saved by Christ, owe this debt of gratitude.

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<v S2>And what a great way that we get to pay

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<v S2>that debt by sharing that good news with others.

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<v S1>Well, you know, we are those who understand what life

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<v S1>is really all about.

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<v S2>What do you mean by that?

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<v S1>The bottom line life is about our relationship with Jesus Christ. Now,

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<v S1>a lot of people don't believe that, don't live that,

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<v S1>don't believe the Bible, but the essence of life. The

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<v S1>Bible says in him we live and move and have

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<v S1>our being. It goes on to say, apart from him,

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<v S1>we can do nothing. So many people are existing, but

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<v S1>they're not living because life comes through Jesus Christ. Two.

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<v S1>Two Greek words are translated life bios, from which we

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<v S1>get the word biology, which speaks of physical life. But

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<v S1>Zoe is spiritual life. And Zoe. This life, Zoe is

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<v S1>in Christ. And so if I want to live eternally

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<v S1>with him, then I need to know him.

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<v S2>Yeah, well. And that's, you know what we get to

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<v S2>be able to do here on this radio program to

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<v S2>talk all about him, to encourage others to talk about him.

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<v S2>And for the person who says, I know that I

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<v S2>should be telling others about him. But I just get

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<v S2>so overwhelmed. What if I say the wrong thing? What

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<v S2>if they ask me a question I don't know how

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<v S2>to answer? How do you encourage that person?

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<v S1>Well, I would tell them, uh, one of the most

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<v S1>profound answers you can give, uh, when it's a subject

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<v S1>or a question asked that you don't know, here it is.

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<v S1>Three words I don't know. So I'm not called to

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<v S1>tell people about what I don't know. I when he

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<v S1>called to tell people about what I do know and

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<v S1>who I do know. So the woman at the well,

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<v S1>she accepted Jesus Christ and became a believer. She goes

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<v S1>into the village and tells all the men, come see

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<v S1>a man who told me everything I've ever done, and

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<v S1>they all went to see her. Now here's my point.

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<v S1>Let me ask you some questions. Okay? Uh, after she

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<v S1>got saved, did she attend Moody Bible Institute?

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<v S2>She did.

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<v S1>Not. Uh, did she take a class at your church

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<v S1>on evangelism?

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<v S2>She did not.

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<v S1>Know. She just merely went out and told what happened

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<v S1>to her. Yeah. That's witnessing.

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<v S2>Well, and that's a great reminder for all of us

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<v S2>that when we are challenged, we can answer, I don't know.

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<v S2>It's simply sharing our story. Right? I don't know what

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<v S2>he's going to do for you, but this is what

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<v S2>Christ has done for me, right?

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<v S1>Remember, one of the mottos Moody had in the past

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<v S1>was to know him and to make him known. Yeah.

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<v S2>That's it. Well, and that's what, uh, we hope to

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<v S2>do here on this radio broadcast and hopefully encourage you

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<v S2>as you share the good news of the gospel with

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<v S2>those around you. So let's open our Bibles to Romans

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<v S2>chapter one as we continue a message winning the lost.

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<v S2>No matter the cost, here is Pastor Ford.

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<v S1>Success in witnessing is not leading a person to Christ.

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<v S1>Success in witnessing is witnessing about Christ. Here's what he

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<v S1>said one plants, one waters. God gives the increase. Here's

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<v S1>what he said. Jesus himself said, the sower and the

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<v S1>reaper get the same reward. Who's the sower? The one

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<v S1>that planted the seed. The one that put the seed

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<v S1>in the heart. Soil. Who's the reaper? The one that

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<v S1>prayed with him. The one that actually was there when

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<v S1>they actually came to Christ? You mean both of them? Yes.

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<v S1>Because you can't have one without another. You can't have

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<v S1>a reaper if you ain't had a sower. Yeah. Amen.

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<v S1>And you can't have a sower without a reaper, because

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<v S1>then everything's going to go rotten. And so he says,

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<v S1>because of converts. Now, I want you to notice something here.

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<v S1>Because what are we trying to do? We're trying to

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<v S1>let people know about our God who can do what

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<v S1>our God can do. He said, what are you talking about?

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<v S1>Let me show you something. Let me show you something.

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<v S1>I just shared this with the Wednesday crowd. Here's what

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<v S1>Paul says I was hindered. Uh, now, what hindered him?

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<v S1>The work of God hindered him. Now. Now, here's what

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<v S1>we got to realize. This. This thing is powerful to me.

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<v S1>I said, first Thessalonians 218 is is is demonic delay.

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<v S1>But acts 16 six through eight is divine delay. God

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<v S1>stopped him from going. Question. Why? Since he wants to

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<v S1>go there and witness. Are you having him? Wait. My

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<v S1>might I postulate a possibility. Say postulate. I remember when

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<v S1>I got converted, some things changed right away. Some things

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<v S1>didn't change, right? Some things changed. The first thing I did,

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<v S1>anybody remember? Flushed my drugs down the toilet? I used

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<v S1>to have Pepsi-Cola pusher, you know. Remember when Pepsi-Cola bottles?

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<v S1>You could get two cent for them? I was two

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<v S1>cent nickel and dime pusher. And first thing I did

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<v S1>was flush all my drugs down the toilet. That word

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<v S1>got around, man. Ford done lost his mind. He ain't

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<v S1>got religion. And he didn't flush drugs down the toilet.

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<v S1>And then the other thing I was doing, I was

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<v S1>gaming on welfare. Now, let me tell you what that means.

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<v S1>That means I had a job, a good job, but

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<v S1>I had my wife go to welfare office and say

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<v S1>that I had left her and the children, so we

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<v S1>was able to get food stamps just way before we

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<v S1>was able to get food stamps and she got a

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<v S1>medical card. So here I was. I had a good job.

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<v S1>I was working in a factory making top money, and

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<v S1>then she was getting welfare and food stamps and I

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<v S1>was selling drugs. Big bank, big bank, big bank. But

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<v S1>then it backfired because when I got saved, the first

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<v S1>thing I did was I went to the welfare office

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<v S1>because the guilt was on me. And I said, for

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<v S1>two and a half, almost three years, we've been cheating you.

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<v S1>I know I could go to jail, but my guy

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<v S1>who led me to Christ said, one of the first

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<v S1>things I must do is make restitution. So this guy

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<v S1>had me. That's why my marriage is such a wreck.

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<v S1>I had to go tell my wife, every woman that

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<v S1>I ever mess with. You know, I had to go

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<v S1>and confess to everybody what I had stolen and and

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<v S1>make restitution. And I'm going back, you know? Yeah, yeah.

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<v S1>You know, when you're just missing it at your crib

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<v S1>and you thought so, and so did it. I told

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<v S1>you he did it. I know he's like that. I

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<v S1>did it, you know, that kind of stuff. Yeah. Here's

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<v S1>your money back, man. Here's this back. You know, all

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<v S1>that went through all that. But I didn't want to

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<v S1>do that one. He said, well, then you don't want

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<v S1>to be fully obedient to Jesus. I said, okay, so

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<v S1>I go and I'm sitting up there, I'm sweating bullets, man. And, uh,

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<v S1>you know, the the supervisor comes out and she says, sir,

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<v S1>this has never happened. I don't even know what to do.

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<v S1>Here's what I'm going to tell you. We're going to

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<v S1>just erase this from our records in this office. Just

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<v S1>don't do it again. I said, Praise God. Praise God.

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<v S1>God is a deliverer, baby. Because I thought I was

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<v S1>going to jail, man. And and so here's what happened.

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<v S1>Here's the end of the story. So because of that now,

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<v S1>whenever my job started laying off and I was one

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<v S1>of the ones that got laid off and, um, uh,

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<v S1>I went to unemployment and they said, well, you can

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<v S1>only get $158 a week because you're you're a single person.

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<v S1>I said, I'm married. Well, not according to our records.

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<v S1>Your wife and children are on welfare. I said no, no, see,

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<v S1>I was gaming on them. Well, that ain't we ain't

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<v S1>got nothing to do with that. This is what you get.

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<v S1>So now it's like, I don't, man, I don't have

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<v S1>a job. I can't take care of my family. So then,

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<v S1>you know, I got an undesirable discharge from the military.

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<v S1>And so, I mean, this thing is all stacked against me.

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<v S1>So they said city of Pittsburgh has 50 job openings,

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<v S1>and there were over 2000 applicants. I said, I can't go.

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<v S1>I might as well not go, Ray said. You don't

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<v S1>believe God, that God can overcome your past? I said, well, yeah,

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<v S1>he did. He said, what did he do with the

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<v S1>welfare thing? He said, go down there and apply for

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<v S1>the job. So I went down and applied for the job,

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<v S1>I got it. Now let me let me tell you

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<v S1>what happened before. The guy used to sell drugs for Clyde.

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<v S1>I don't know if you remember Clyde, but anyway, Clyde, uh,

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<v S1>I was talking to him before I got this job. Uh,

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<v S1>I was talking to him, and he said, yeah, you broke.

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<v S1>Now you did, you know. Come on, you might as

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<v S1>well come on back, you know, and get your drugs

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<v S1>from me, man. You know? No, no, no, I ain't

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<v S1>into that. Jesus, you know, blah blah blah. I'm telling you.

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<v S1>He said. Yeah, I heard about that. He said, but

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<v S1>if you're Jesus so powerful, how come you don't have

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<v S1>a job? Man, that hurt me, man, I went home,

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<v S1>I got down on my knees. I said, did you

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<v S1>hear what he said? That's that's the way I did it.

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<v S1>I was I was newly saved. You know, I wasn't

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<v S1>all that prim and proper. Oh, God, that dwelleth thou I, I,

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<v S1>I come from the streets, so I that's the way

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<v S1>I talk to him, you know, and I, truth be known,

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<v S1>I still talk to him that way. I say I

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<v S1>don't like it. I'm going to tell you I don't

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<v S1>like it because you told me to come boldly to

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<v S1>the throne of grace. Alright? I don't like what's going on.

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<v S1>I gotta deal with it. But Lord, you're gonna have

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<v S1>to do something. And so I told. I said, you

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<v S1>hear what he said about you? He talking about if

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<v S1>you're so great, how come I don't have a job now? Lord,

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<v S1>this thing is deeper than just. I need to pay

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<v S1>the rent. Because I've been telling all these people how

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<v S1>good you are. You got to get me a job.

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<v S1>So then Ray told me, going down there and applied,

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<v S1>I applied, I got the job. The first person I

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<v S1>told after my wife was Clyde. I went down the alley.

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<v S1>I knocked on his door. And Clyde, guess what, man

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<v S1>you was talking about last week? About your God. So great.

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<v S1>How come you don't have a job? I got a job.

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<v S1>And not just any job. I got a job I

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<v S1>shouldn't even have because the city wasn't even supposed to

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<v S1>hire me. But my God is so powerful that he

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<v S1>overruled the rules. Because my God is the God who

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<v S1>makes the rules. And I said, and then I took

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<v S1>him down Romans Road. Now that's why I come to

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<v S1>tell you once again, you know that the wages of

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<v S1>sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life.

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<v S1>All have sinned come short and I'm telling them. Witness

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<v S1>to him. And he says, man, get out of my face.

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<v S1>I said, you can pray a prayer of faith, man.

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<v S1>Just ask Jesus Christ to come into your heart. Man no,

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<v S1>I don't want to hear. He slammed the door in

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<v S1>my face. Fast forward the video a couple years ago,

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<v S1>probably about eight now, I was asked to go up

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<v S1>to Grand Rapids and preach to some brethren up there

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<v S1>about about about 3 or 400 of them. And I'm preaching.

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<v S1>I preach Friday night, then I preach two messages on

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<v S1>Saturday morning. Saturday afternoon I finished the message. A guy

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<v S1>come running to me and he said to me, he said,

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<v S1>he said, man, I've been waiting years, almost 20 years

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<v S1>to talk to you. I said, what? He said, you

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<v S1>don't know who I am. I said, no, he said,

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<v S1>I'm Clyde's brother, Clyde. Clyde who? You know what, Clyde

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<v S1>I'm talking about. I said, man, come on. Are you serious?

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<v S1>He said, yeah. And I've been asking people, when are

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<v S1>you coming back home? And every time you come home,

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<v S1>the preacher of home church, I miss you. But now

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<v S1>I live in Detroit. I gotta tell you, I've been

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<v S1>wanting to tell you this story for over 20 years.

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<v S1>What story? He said the day that you witnessed to

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<v S1>my brother Clyde, I was in the living room. You

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<v S1>were on the porch. And when you told him. Romans 623,

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<v S1>Romans 523, Romans ten nine and ten and asked him

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<v S1>to pray. I did, I got saved. Now get this,

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<v S1>I said, man, man, praise the Lord. He said, no, no, no, no.

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<v S1>He said, all through, all through grammar school, all through

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<v S1>high school I lived for the Lord. The Lord. When

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<v S1>I got ready to graduate, he said, I'm calling you

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<v S1>to preach for me. So don't go to a secular school.

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<v S1>I got a full ride. Don't go to secular school,

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<v S1>go to a Christian college. So I went to a

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<v S1>Christian college. I'm just graduating now, the Bible College of Detroit,

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<v S1>getting ready to go to seminary. I'm going to be

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<v S1>a pastor. And I said, I've got to tell him

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<v S1>how God used him, and he didn't even know it.

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<v S2>What a story, isn't it? You're listening to Treasure Truth

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<v S2>with Pastor Ford. A message called Winning the Lost. No

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<v S2>matter the cost. And we're going to get back to

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<v S2>this teaching in just a moment. And maybe you have

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<v S2>a story of how God has used you to bring

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<v S2>someone to a saving faith. We'd be encouraged to read that.

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<v S1>Paul said, hey, I was hindered and God says it's

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<v S1>a divine interruption. So you've been praying five years, ten years,

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<v S1>15 years. Now you're ready to give up. Don't you

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<v S1>dare give up. You keep on sharing because you don't

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<v S1>know the domino effect of what's happening. As you share

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<v S1>with a person what God is going to do, and

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<v S1>he says converts. Now, let me just let me just

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<v S1>drop this on you. Uh, because, you know, when you

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<v S1>win converts, you get a crown. This this amazes me

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<v S1>about Jesus. He doing all the work in me, and

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<v S1>he giving me all the reward. Now, how many crowns

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<v S1>can you get? I know you know this. Okay, let me.

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<v S1>Let me walk through these crowns real quick. You know

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<v S1>I'm already. There's the incorruptible crown. First Corinthians 925 through 27.

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<v S1>That's for people who master the flesh. Who walk in

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<v S1>the spirit more than they walk in the flesh. Then

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<v S1>the second crown you can get is called the crown

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<v S1>of glory. That's the shepherd's crown. It's given to all

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<v S1>pastors who faithfully shepherd God's flock. And you say, well,

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<v S1>then that's not for us. Yes, it is, because when

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<v S1>you come in and God has gifted you and brought

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<v S1>you to this place, and you say, I espouse the vision,

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<v S1>I'm getting involved in the plan and purpose of God,

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<v S1>then you get that crown because you work with me

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<v S1>to fulfill God's vision and purpose for this local assembly. Alright. Why?

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<v S1>Because if you give a prophet a cup of water

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<v S1>in the name of the Lord, you receive a prophet's reward.

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<v S1>Then the crown of life. James 112 is also revelation

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<v S1>two seven and it's given to those who faithfully endure temptation.

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<v S1>And it's a martyr's crown for all of those who

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<v S1>lose their life for the cause of Christ. Like the

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<v S1>over 2 million people, uh, every six months that's given

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<v S1>their life for Christ. Then there's the crown of righteousness.

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<v S1>Second Timothy four eight. It's given to those who live

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<v S1>right and who love the rapture of the church. Then

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<v S1>this one, the one that I'm talking about, converts that

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<v S1>everybody who drops a seed, everybody who witnesses is somebody.

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<v S1>God says you've got a crown of rejoicing. What is that?

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<v S1>It's given to those who win. Souls who witness for

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<v S1>the Lord. It's a crown that you can get. Amen.

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<v S1>Notice secondly, with me. Notice. secondly with me. Here's the

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<v S1>second stick of dynamite that Paul was going to throw

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<v S1>into our laps. He says because of verse, verse 13,

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<v S1>notice because of compulsion, verse 14, notice he says, I

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<v S1>am debtor both to the Greeks and the barbarians, both

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<v S1>to the wise and the unwise. Wait a minute. The

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<v S1>word debtor means you have an obligation. Now get this.

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<v S1>Who's this obligation to or to whom is this obligation? Christ.

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<v S1>Get this. Paul says, I owe a debt to Jesus

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<v S1>that I pay to you. How do you pay your

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<v S1>debt to Jesus? Tell somebody else about him. Because the

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<v S1>gospel is just one beggar telling another beggar where to

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<v S1>find bread. Yeah. Here's here's what the Bible said. He

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<v S1>who gives to the poor lends to the Lord. Isn't

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<v S1>that a powerful principle? That's why I don't ever hesitate.

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<v S1>I don't hesitate, sister. Hit me up last night. Me

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<v S1>and my children, I said, okay, boom, boom. I gave

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<v S1>it to her. Why? Because I know I can't outgive God.

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<v S1>I gave it to her. I lent it to the Lord.

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<v S1>And I don't know about you. I'm biblical. Sometimes I

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<v S1>remind them, I remember I lent that money. I gave

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<v S1>it to her. But you told me you was going

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<v S1>to pay it back. Hey, man, I don't know what

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<v S1>y'all doing. Throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Say,

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<v S1>what's he doing now? Get this. It's a financial debt

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<v S1>to all men. The word obligation is a financial term.

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<v S1>He says I have a debt to all men. See,

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<v S1>the Greeks called everybody barbarians. Why didn't he say Jews?

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<v S1>He said Greeks and barbarians. Because he's speaking to those

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<v S1>who are sophists, say sophists. There are people who who

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<v S1>were erudite. They were people who like to pontificate, who

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<v S1>really were into the the. Okay, let me see if

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<v S1>I can get you to understand. They were bougie. Okay.

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<v S1>Now you understand. Yeah. Or they were. No. That's a

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<v S1>ghetto person who who's trying to be bougie. Yeah. And

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<v S1>so and so they always look down on other people.

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<v S1>And every time I hear it, you people, it's a

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<v S1>derogatory term. I say you people, who is you people.

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<v S1>I mean, you know, you know, you people. Have you

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<v S1>ever noticed? We're proud of things of which we have

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<v S1>no control. We're proud of race. We're proud of face.

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<v S1>We're proud of grace, and we're proud of place. And

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<v S1>we had nothing to do with any of them. Do

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<v S1>you think that most of of us in here would

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<v S1>look like we look, if we could have picked our

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<v S1>own face? Hey, man. No, we got used to it.

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<v S1>Should I tell everybody I'm a good looking black man?

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<v S1>I don't care what anybody say. Shoot. God, don't make

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<v S1>no junk. But I am somebody. That's it. You know

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<v S1>I already got a woman. Ah. That's right. So she

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<v S1>think I look good? I don't care what everybody else say. Shoot,

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<v S1>I ain't, ain't nobody else. Give me no money. And

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<v S1>so he says listen, it's kind of like it's kind

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<v S1>of like, uh, there was a Angelo brother and the

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<v S1>Chinese brother. They were friends. And so the Chinese brother said,

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<v S1>come to a funeral with me. So they went to

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<v S1>the funeral, and the Chinese brother went up and took

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<v S1>a bowl of rice and put it by the picture.

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<v S1>So he comes back and American Brother says to him,

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<v S1>what is that all about? He said, well, when somebody dies,

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<v S1>we take the rice and we put it up there

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<v S1>because some people believe, I don't believe it, but it's

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<v S1>just a custom. Some people believe that they'll eat the rice.

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<v S1>He said, well, when are they going to eat the rice?

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<v S1>He said, well, when the people who you give flowers

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<v S1>start smelling them. Make sense to me. And so what's

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<v S1>going on here? He's saying listen, listen, listen, listen. Do

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<v S1>you have an obligation? Do you feel obligated? Let me

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<v S1>let me tell you. Let me tell you. Let me

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<v S1>tell you. Uh, Pastor Hickman, pastor Hickman is a friend

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<v S1>of mine. But you know what? You know what that

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<v S1>hanging out with that brother has done with me. Not

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<v S1>only educating me about what he talked to you about,

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<v S1>because we talk about that kind of stuff all the time.

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<v S1>But I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what happened.

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<v S1>I tell you what happened. He takes me to Maggiano's.

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<v S1>Have you ever been to Maggiano's? I ain't never been

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<v S1>to Gino's. You've been in Chicago all this time. You've

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<v S1>never been. I ain't never been to Maggiano, man, you know?

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<v S1>Come on, Imma take you. So we go. We go

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<v S1>to Marciano's. And so a lady walks up to us.

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<v S1>She's pushing a cart. She's a bag lady. She says, uh,

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<v S1>excuse me, gentlemen, I don't do drugs. And never have

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<v S1>I lost my family, my home, because I was a homemaker.

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<v S1>My husband worked in a fortune 500 company. He got

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<v S1>hooked on drugs. We lost everything. My children are gone.

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<v S1>Husband's gone. House is gone, I lost everything. Could you

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<v S1>help me out? He pulls out five, $100 bills. Don't

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<v S1>y'all mess with that man. And gifts, he says. I

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<v S1>know why God told me to take this out because

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<v S1>I wasn't going to take it out because I don't

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<v S1>do cash. But God told me when I was at

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<v S1>the bank, you're going to give to somebody and you'll

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<v S1>know who it is when I tell you. And he

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<v S1>gave her $500 bills. She said, oh, I can stay

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<v S1>at the Y for a couple months. Oh, thank you,

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<v S1>thank you, thank you. I looked at him, I said,

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<v S1>I don't do drugs. But but but you know what?

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<v S1>Here's what, here's what happened. Here's what I saw Elder Betts,

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<v S1>over time of just hanging with him and just it's

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<v S1>like I'm way more generous than I ever was just

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<v S1>by hanging out with that man. Now, let me tell

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<v S1>you why. Because now, when somebody bless me, like somebody

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<v S1>blessed us and said, okay, I'm going to let you

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<v S1>go downtown and I'm going to let you go on

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<v S1>my dime. We stayed in a $600 a night room

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<v S1>for $95 a night. I mean, come on now. Don't

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<v S1>hate celebrate. God will let you participate. Now guess what? We're. That's.

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<v S1>Guess what we do now. Here's what we do. Every

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<v S1>time somebody does something like that for us, we look

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<v S1>for somebody to bless. We say, who is it that

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<v S1>have an anniversary coming up and they may just have

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<v S1>a meal, may not be, you know, okay, let's, let's

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<v S1>send them to, let's send them to a couple days

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<v S1>or send them to a meal or do and that's

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<v S1>what we do. We look for somebody to bless why

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<v S1>we feel so obligated. Because we now don't you feel

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<v S1>obligated if God saved you from crack? Don't you want

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<v S1>a crack head to get saved? If God saved you

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<v S1>from being a whore or a whoremonger, why don't you

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<v S1>want somebody else to stop horn and quit being a

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<v S1>horn monger, a drinker, or a drugger a beater abuser?

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<v S1>If God did it for you, he could do it.

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<v S1>Don't you feel obligated to let somebody know who's going

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<v S1>through what you went through? That God is a healer.

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<v S1>That God is a deliverer. That God can set you free.

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<v S1>That he can write your name in the Lamb's Book

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<v S1>of Life. We ought to feel obligated.

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<v S2>You know, you don't have to have a dramatic story

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<v S2>of conversion. Maybe your story is about how God brought

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<v S2>you through depression or discouragement. Maybe it's how he saved

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<v S2>your marriage. No matter who you are, there's someone out

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<v S2>there going through a similar experience and you know you

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<v S2>can help. You're listening to Treasure Truth with Pastor Ford.

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<v S2>You can find us online at Treasure Truth radio.org. You know, pastor,

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<v S2>as someone tunes in and listens to Moody Radio, not

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<v S2>only are they going to hear this Bible teaching program,

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<v S2>but just a wide array or variety of programming that

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<v S2>can really be used to encourage and help them grow

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<v S2>in their walk with Christ?

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<v S1>Oh, yes. And you're going to hear things that are

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<v S1>going to build you up in your most precious faith

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<v S1>in Jesus Christ. Uh, you know, it's amazing to me.

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<v S1>I say it all the time. But, you know, sometimes

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<v S1>what we do is we buy things we don't need

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<v S1>with money. We don't have to amass bills we can't

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<v S1>pay to please people we don't like and don't care anyway.

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<v S1>We are going to be held accountable for our stewardship.

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<v S1>Isn't it amazing that we can send it ahead by

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<v S1>giving to Moody Radio?

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<v S2>Yeah, absolutely.

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<v S1>Because that's an investment that draws a dividend that has

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<v S1>eternal consequences. And I mean, when you invest in Moody Radio,

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<v S1>you are actually investing in the only two things that

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<v S1>last forever the word of God and the souls of

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<v S1>men and women.

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<v S2>Well, you can make an investment right now by coming

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<v S2>to our website. It is Treasure Truth radio.org. Click on

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<v S2>the donate button. We need both the ongoing monthly gifts

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<v S2>and the one time gifts. Again, that's at Treasure Truth Radio.

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<v S2>Thanks for giving and for listening. And thanks also to

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<v S2>our producer, Amy Rios. For Pastor Ford, I'm Steve Hiller.

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<v S2>Treasure truth is a production of Moody Radio, a ministry

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<v S2>of Moody Bible Institute.