1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,160 S1: Coming to you live from the call of Hope studio. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,240 S1: This is Carl and crew. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,280 S2: O, Christmas is an interesting time because it's a time 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,360 S2: when you can feel the nearness of God. And then 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,680 S2: there's times when it's like, Where is God? Yeah, especially 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,320 S2: when it comes to family traditions. 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,160 S3: All kind of stuff. God, do you see what I'm 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:22,440 S3: going through over here? 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,440 S2: Yeah, and we can laugh about it. But, man, it 10 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,040 S2: can be like burning. 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,760 S3: Real laugh or you cry, right? I mean, because this 12 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,839 S3: is when you feel like you are afflicted, you are suffering, 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,040 S3: you are going through it. And you wonder, does God 14 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:37,960 S3: even see? 15 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,479 S2: Yeah, yeah. Does God see? Does he hear? Does he 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,000 S2: know the situation that I'm in? We've all been in 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,720 S2: those situations. And the irony here is that we find 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:57,680 S2: in Scripture that the immediacy of God's deliverance isn't always 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,700 S2: there at that very juncture. Oftentimes it's a little bit delayed. 20 00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:05,580 S2: And you can let me give you an encouraging word 21 00:01:05,580 --> 00:01:10,060 S2: here comes right out of Exodus three. Think about Israel now. 22 00:01:10,180 --> 00:01:16,060 S2: They are slave labor. They're in Egypt. They're making bricks. 23 00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:21,780 S2: It ain't going well. Uh, they're mocked, they're derided. They're 24 00:01:21,780 --> 00:01:27,060 S2: looked down on. They are below second class citizens. They're slaves. Guys, 25 00:01:27,819 --> 00:01:30,300 S2: do they have their own homes? They have their own homes. 26 00:01:30,940 --> 00:01:34,180 S2: But is it a mess? It's a mess. The pain 27 00:01:34,180 --> 00:01:39,340 S2: is real. The heartache is real. And there's going to 28 00:01:39,340 --> 00:01:44,539 S2: be a man that comes along. But there's this time frame, right? 29 00:01:44,540 --> 00:01:48,540 S2: There's a gap. And it's a good stretch of time 30 00:01:48,540 --> 00:01:53,540 S2: between God hearing the cries of the people and him 31 00:01:53,540 --> 00:01:57,580 S2: working in Moses enough to convince him you're the man 32 00:01:57,690 --> 00:01:59,970 S2: that's gonna help lead them out of this mess. 33 00:02:00,010 --> 00:02:00,690 S3: Who, me? 34 00:02:03,170 --> 00:02:05,810 S2: And I and I don't blame him. It's like. What? 35 00:02:06,170 --> 00:02:09,810 S2: And I think the funny thing we can take away is. 36 00:02:10,169 --> 00:02:14,010 S2: You know what? Hang on. There might be some deliverance 37 00:02:14,010 --> 00:02:17,130 S2: coming your way, but there might be a reluctant Moses 38 00:02:17,130 --> 00:02:19,570 S2: out there that God's trying to work through to help you. 39 00:02:19,930 --> 00:02:23,090 S3: And, you know, you think about the call that Moses 40 00:02:23,130 --> 00:02:25,250 S3: got in all of the reasons that he knew that 41 00:02:25,250 --> 00:02:27,970 S3: he was the wrong person for the job and that 42 00:02:27,970 --> 00:02:31,850 S3: someone else would probably be much more qualified. And yet 43 00:02:31,889 --> 00:02:34,290 S3: God chose him. Slow of speech. 44 00:02:35,570 --> 00:02:38,370 S2: Yeah. He said, I'm going to give you I'm going 45 00:02:38,410 --> 00:02:40,850 S2: to give you a wingman. Everything's going to be fine here, 46 00:02:40,850 --> 00:02:43,889 S2: but you're going to you're going to be the man. 47 00:02:44,610 --> 00:02:48,770 S2: But wedged in this narrative in Exodus chapter three are 48 00:02:48,770 --> 00:02:52,170 S2: these two sweet verses. Then the Lord God said to 49 00:02:52,210 --> 00:02:56,390 S2: Moses from this burning bush. He said, I have surely 50 00:02:56,389 --> 00:02:59,389 S2: seen the affliction of my people. Do you hear that 51 00:02:59,389 --> 00:03:04,029 S2: right now? I have seen the affliction of my people 52 00:03:05,110 --> 00:03:10,389 S2: who are in Egypt, and have heard their cry because 53 00:03:10,389 --> 00:03:19,989 S2: of their taskmasters. I know their sufferings. Boom! That's just 54 00:03:19,990 --> 00:03:22,470 S2: one verse. How good is that? 55 00:03:22,510 --> 00:03:24,630 S4: That's good. He hears us. 56 00:03:25,630 --> 00:03:27,870 S2: Is our God Alpha and Omega? 57 00:03:28,669 --> 00:03:29,269 S4: Yes. 58 00:03:29,550 --> 00:03:31,750 S2: He's the beginning and the end. Right? Just double. 59 00:03:31,750 --> 00:03:32,190 S3: Check. 60 00:03:32,510 --> 00:03:33,870 S5: Revelation one eight. Come on. 61 00:03:33,910 --> 00:03:37,070 S2: He has not changed, right? Nope. He is the same yesterday, 62 00:03:37,150 --> 00:03:40,430 S2: today and forever. Correct. So what we see in the 63 00:03:40,430 --> 00:03:43,150 S2: heart of God for the nation of Israel is true 64 00:03:43,150 --> 00:03:45,030 S2: of his kids today. Correct? 65 00:03:45,070 --> 00:03:46,190 S4: Correct, correct. 66 00:03:46,550 --> 00:03:47,590 S2: Boy, that's good news. 67 00:03:47,950 --> 00:03:50,630 S3: It is good news for you and for me. 68 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:52,910 S2: So I don't know what you've got going on, but 69 00:03:52,910 --> 00:03:55,290 S2: here's what I want you to be certain of today. 70 00:03:55,770 --> 00:04:00,930 S2: God sees your need. He knows the weight that you're under. 71 00:04:01,170 --> 00:04:04,490 S2: He knows the affliction that you're going through. He might 72 00:04:04,490 --> 00:04:07,690 S2: know the betrayal that you're paying for right now at 73 00:04:07,690 --> 00:04:11,650 S2: the hands of an absolute knucklehead. And he hears your 74 00:04:11,650 --> 00:04:14,810 S2: prayer and you say, I don't even know if I 75 00:04:14,810 --> 00:04:18,970 S2: can pray it. It's been just scattered tears. He's heard 76 00:04:18,970 --> 00:04:24,690 S2: those prayers because he's omniscient and because he's omnipotent. Two 77 00:04:24,690 --> 00:04:28,010 S2: things are happening at the same time. He knows exactly 78 00:04:28,010 --> 00:04:30,730 S2: the circumstance that you're in, and this is relatable to 79 00:04:30,730 --> 00:04:32,490 S2: all of us today, is it not, Ali? 80 00:04:32,529 --> 00:04:34,250 S3: It definitely is relatable. 81 00:04:34,730 --> 00:04:38,930 S2: He knows the situation that we're in, and he also 82 00:04:39,650 --> 00:04:44,170 S2: is not ignorant that you need help. Now here's the 83 00:04:44,210 --> 00:04:49,370 S2: bummer God often does his work to help through people, 84 00:04:49,370 --> 00:04:54,240 S2: sometimes reluctant people who do everything to avoid being the 85 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,080 S2: messenger of help. So I don't know what you're going 86 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,160 S2: through today. I don't know what you're up against. I 87 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,840 S2: don't know what your tears are praying, but I know this. 88 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,520 S2: Our God sees your need and he hears your prayers. 89 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,360 S2: And I want you. I say it often here. Live 90 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,600 S2: with your head on a swivel. A Moses is coming. 91 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,360 S2: It may be in an envelope. Okay, a check in 92 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,839 S2: the mail. That may be your Moses. It could be 93 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,920 S2: he uses a child in your home. It could be 94 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,320 S2: that he uses a spouse. It could be he uses 95 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,040 S2: a friend. It could be that you that be good 96 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,000 S2: at the supermarket today because there may be someone there 97 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,120 S2: God sent your way. 98 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:34,920 S3: That's right. 99 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,560 S5: Yeah, that is right. 100 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:37,440 S2: Isn't this great? 101 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:38,159 S3: Yeah it is. 102 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:43,400 S2: But hang on to that truth for sure. Merry Christmas everybody. 103 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,120 S2: First of five Christmas promises that we're going to be 104 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,239 S2: dishing up this week. Well, coming up here in a moment, 105 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,380 S2: Ali had an opportunity to sit down with quite a guy, huh? 106 00:05:53,420 --> 00:05:57,260 S3: The one and only Bill Gaither. I mean, his music. 107 00:05:57,260 --> 00:06:00,220 S3: Bill and Gloria, you're going to hear maybe a more 108 00:06:00,220 --> 00:06:03,900 S3: personal side of him. What a fun guy. Get ready 109 00:06:03,900 --> 00:06:04,739 S3: for this. Coming up. 110 00:06:05,380 --> 00:06:09,380 S1: Walking closer to Jesus every day. You're listening to Carl 111 00:06:09,380 --> 00:06:09,940 S1: and crew. 112 00:06:10,540 --> 00:06:14,179 S3: He's had an extraordinary career in gospel music. And here's 113 00:06:14,180 --> 00:06:17,539 S3: a fun fact about our guest. He still lives about 114 00:06:17,540 --> 00:06:21,860 S3: a mile from the house he was born in, in Alexandria, Indiana, 115 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:24,980 S3: and the same house that he and his wife built 116 00:06:24,980 --> 00:06:29,779 S3: in 1964. Bill Gaither, you're not a man who likes change. 117 00:06:29,779 --> 00:06:31,300 S3: Then maybe. Is that correct? 118 00:06:31,779 --> 00:06:34,779 S6: Yeah, and Gloria knows that. And she said, I don't 119 00:06:34,820 --> 00:06:37,260 S6: know whether I should be happy that you stayed with 120 00:06:37,260 --> 00:06:40,979 S6: me for 63 years, or that you just don't like change, 121 00:06:41,020 --> 00:06:45,460 S6: do you? And so. But I'm there. When I left 122 00:06:45,460 --> 00:06:47,500 S6: her this morning, I kissed her and I told her 123 00:06:47,500 --> 00:06:49,760 S6: I still love her. And, oh, by the way, our 124 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:55,000 S6: wedding anniversary comes up on December the 22nd, so I've 125 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,040 S6: got two weeks to get my act together. 126 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,640 S3: And for Christmas. So you got two gifts to buy. 127 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:00,279 S6: Right? 128 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,440 S3: Right, right. Bill Gaither, our guest right now, a Grammy 129 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,440 S3: Award winning artist. He's a pioneering figure in gospel music, 130 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,200 S3: celebrated for both his songwriting and his mentorship. Over the 131 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,200 S3: course of his career, he and his wife, Gloria have 132 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,040 S3: won eight, yes, eight Grammy Awards in more than two 133 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,480 S3: dozen Dove Awards. What do you think has been the 134 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,360 S3: secret to your lasting influence in the music industry? 135 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,440 S6: You know what? That's a good question. I think persistence 136 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,160 S6: might be one thing. I'll never forget James Blackwood and 137 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,480 S6: the old Black Brothers Quartet. I said, what's the secret, James? 138 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,240 S6: He said, you have to have a degree of talent, 139 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,840 S6: you know, to do this kind of work, this kind 140 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,920 S6: of ministry. But at the same time, you better have 141 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,820 S6: some stick to itiveness in your system where where you 142 00:07:48,820 --> 00:07:52,820 S6: don't get bored easily because you know, every job on 143 00:07:52,820 --> 00:07:56,020 S6: a given day, you know, can be tough and challenging. 144 00:07:56,260 --> 00:07:59,980 S6: So I think persistence might be the best answer to that. 145 00:08:00,020 --> 00:08:00,380 S7: Yeah. 146 00:08:00,540 --> 00:08:03,580 S3: You know, have you ever had a moment of time 147 00:08:03,580 --> 00:08:06,980 S3: where maybe you wanted to quit or give up? And 148 00:08:06,980 --> 00:08:09,740 S3: when it got challenging and, and God showed you that 149 00:08:09,740 --> 00:08:11,860 S3: you needed to press on. Have you ever had one 150 00:08:11,860 --> 00:08:13,020 S3: of those moments, Bill? 151 00:08:13,700 --> 00:08:17,380 S6: You know what the answer for that might be? Not seriously. 152 00:08:17,740 --> 00:08:20,820 S6: You know, I can remember back in the mid 80s, 153 00:08:20,860 --> 00:08:24,060 S6: the trio, my, uh, Gloria and my brother and I 154 00:08:24,460 --> 00:08:28,059 S6: traveled for ten, 20 years. And I can remember Moody 155 00:08:28,100 --> 00:08:31,460 S6: very well because we would do the Friday night concert 156 00:08:31,500 --> 00:08:34,980 S6: thing there at Moody Church. That was one career we 157 00:08:34,980 --> 00:08:38,940 S6: had that had peaked about in 85. And by the 158 00:08:38,940 --> 00:08:41,460 S6: 90s we said, well, we probably better try to do 159 00:08:41,460 --> 00:08:44,579 S6: something else. And at the time, we thought, before we 160 00:08:44,620 --> 00:08:48,090 S6: hang it up, that vocal band had just started. During 161 00:08:48,090 --> 00:08:52,890 S6: that time I said, let's do one last recording with 162 00:08:52,890 --> 00:08:56,490 S6: the pioneers in our field who went before us and 163 00:08:56,490 --> 00:08:59,730 S6: paid a big price to do what they did. So 164 00:08:59,730 --> 00:09:03,330 S6: we did the first homecoming video saying, where could I 165 00:09:03,330 --> 00:09:05,810 S6: go to the Lord? We thought that might be our 166 00:09:05,809 --> 00:09:08,929 S6: swan song. And that was only the beginning of a 167 00:09:08,929 --> 00:09:14,530 S6: whole nother career that started in 91. And that and 25. 168 00:09:14,570 --> 00:09:17,090 S6: I'm still out here and we're excited about coming to 169 00:09:17,130 --> 00:09:18,890 S6: Chicago one more time. 170 00:09:18,929 --> 00:09:19,730 S7: Yep. That's right. 171 00:09:19,770 --> 00:09:24,530 S3: He's talking about the 2025 homecoming Christmas tour stop in 172 00:09:24,530 --> 00:09:28,530 S3: the Chicagoland area, but also stops across the country. What 173 00:09:28,530 --> 00:09:30,650 S3: do you want people to take away from this? Obviously 174 00:09:30,650 --> 00:09:33,690 S3: it's going to be a great Christmas tour, Christmas music, 175 00:09:33,690 --> 00:09:36,250 S3: but I know that your shows promise a mix of 176 00:09:36,250 --> 00:09:39,209 S3: stories and interviews, and I have to imagine that the 177 00:09:39,250 --> 00:09:42,050 S3: Gospel of Jesus Christ is front and center as well. 178 00:09:42,610 --> 00:09:46,270 S6: Absolutely. One of my favorite lines in A Christmas Carol 179 00:09:46,270 --> 00:09:51,350 S6: is the hopes and fears of all the years. Yes, 180 00:09:51,550 --> 00:09:54,590 S6: rest in you tonight. And I don't know how many 181 00:09:54,590 --> 00:10:00,470 S6: times during the Christmas season, and especially from Thanksgiving to Christmas, 182 00:10:01,150 --> 00:10:03,670 S6: a lot of deaths happen. A lot of people pass 183 00:10:03,670 --> 00:10:07,430 S6: away during this time. Why? I do not know. But 184 00:10:07,470 --> 00:10:11,270 S6: in talking to my friends who've experienced loss, I have 185 00:10:11,270 --> 00:10:15,910 S6: said the hopes and fears of all the years rest 186 00:10:15,910 --> 00:10:18,110 S6: on you tonight and I. And that's one of the 187 00:10:18,110 --> 00:10:20,190 S6: things I hope that people would go away on a 188 00:10:20,190 --> 00:10:24,350 S6: concert saying. But at the same time, the joy that 189 00:10:24,350 --> 00:10:28,590 S6: happens at Christmas, heaven and nature sing, heaven and nature sings. 190 00:10:28,870 --> 00:10:32,670 S6: The song goes on and on and on and it's 191 00:10:32,670 --> 00:10:33,950 S6: just a great time of the year. 192 00:10:34,270 --> 00:10:35,990 S7: Bill Gaither, our guest right now. 193 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:38,990 S3: What is your favorite Christmas song that's a part of 194 00:10:38,990 --> 00:10:42,230 S3: this tour you mentioned to the lyrics from two different 195 00:10:42,230 --> 00:10:46,050 S3: ones Is is there one that's your favorite that stands out? 196 00:10:47,050 --> 00:10:50,690 S6: Well, a traditional one obviously would be a holy Child 197 00:10:50,690 --> 00:10:54,329 S6: of Bethlehem. Descend on us, we pray, cast out our 198 00:10:54,330 --> 00:10:58,170 S6: sins and enter in be born in us today. I 199 00:10:58,170 --> 00:11:01,890 S6: don't know how many times, especially when we, uh, when 200 00:11:01,890 --> 00:11:05,809 S6: we look at our national scene and world scene, that 201 00:11:05,809 --> 00:11:09,610 S6: we want to pray the prayer, O come to our heart, 202 00:11:09,610 --> 00:11:13,090 S6: Lord Jesus, come into our heart today. We want to 203 00:11:13,090 --> 00:11:17,970 S6: pray those prayers because history has revealed that the world's 204 00:11:17,970 --> 00:11:20,569 S6: never been very stable. I mean, it was a very 205 00:11:20,570 --> 00:11:24,090 S6: unstable time when Jesus was born, but he is the 206 00:11:24,090 --> 00:11:27,770 S6: only answer. So for traditional song, I would say that, 207 00:11:28,090 --> 00:11:31,130 S6: or a song that Gloria and I wrote, I would 208 00:11:31,130 --> 00:11:34,010 S6: say one of my favorites and we'll sing it. Uh, 209 00:11:34,050 --> 00:11:38,250 S6: his love went on longing. His love went on reaching 210 00:11:38,530 --> 00:11:42,760 S6: right past the shackles of my mind and the word 211 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:47,280 S6: of the father became Mary's little son, and his love 212 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,319 S6: reached all the way to where I was. 213 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:50,760 S7: Wow. 214 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,600 S3: Bill. You know, each time you quote these lyrics that 215 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,960 S3: often we don't hear spoken, we hear sung. And sometimes 216 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,200 S3: when things are sung, you can almost miss it. But 217 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,720 S3: then when you hear it slowed down a little bit, 218 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,480 S3: I get the sense that these lyrics really you've rooted 219 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,080 S3: these deeply in your heart, singing them so over so 220 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:10,960 S3: many years. 221 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,600 S6: I love poetry, and when I say I adore and 222 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,199 S6: I love poetry, and I love it because it leaves 223 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,319 S6: something to your imagination. When I look at the last 224 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,640 S6: century and if I were to pull out a gospel song, 225 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,600 S6: it was not a song that I wrote or Gloria wrote. 226 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,559 S6: It's a song by Iris Stanfill, a song, like many 227 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:36,040 S6: things About Tomorrow, I don't seem to understand, but I 228 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:40,260 S6: know who holds tomorrow and I know who holds my hand. 229 00:12:40,300 --> 00:12:40,660 S3: Beautiful. 230 00:12:40,700 --> 00:12:43,179 S6: You know I rest my case. And that's the reason 231 00:12:43,179 --> 00:12:45,140 S6: I'm a happy camper at this age. Alive. 232 00:12:45,780 --> 00:12:47,660 S3: Bill Gaither. What a joy to have you with us 233 00:12:47,660 --> 00:12:51,220 S3: this morning. If you want information on this homecoming Christmas 234 00:12:51,220 --> 00:12:55,340 S3: tour stops in in the Chicagoland area, but many stops 235 00:12:55,340 --> 00:12:58,340 S3: across the country. So check this link to see where 236 00:12:58,340 --> 00:13:04,699 S3: the closest one is to you. Text Bill to (800) 555-7898. 237 00:13:04,740 --> 00:13:09,420 S3: Text bill to (800) 555-7898. 238 00:13:09,740 --> 00:13:12,460 S1: You can take him out of Alaska, but you can't 239 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:16,340 S1: take Alaska out of him. Carl is in the crew. 240 00:13:16,540 --> 00:13:19,140 S1: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio. 241 00:13:19,179 --> 00:13:24,459 S2: It's more blessed to give than to receive. It ain't 242 00:13:24,460 --> 00:13:25,300 S2: a pipe dream. 243 00:13:25,620 --> 00:13:29,180 S3: No, but sometimes it doesn't always feel like that. 244 00:13:29,900 --> 00:13:32,980 S2: Yeah. I mean, there's some times, if we're really being 245 00:13:32,980 --> 00:13:37,020 S2: candid here, there's sometimes when giving can become very perfunctory. 246 00:13:37,059 --> 00:13:40,000 S3: Right, right. I mean, giving can be awesome and fun, 247 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,240 S3: but you go, I kind of want to be on 248 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,120 S3: the receiving end. 249 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,120 S2: It could be that, too. 250 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,440 S3: Why don't you. Why don't you experience the joy of 251 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,400 S3: giving to me? That's so great. 252 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,600 S2: One of the most generous women. I'm not going to 253 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,920 S2: mention who she is because she lives in another state. 254 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,480 S2: And who knows, she wouldn't want her name out there. 255 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,760 S2: But she is such a giving person. She was so exhausted. 256 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,520 S2: No joking. She came to our house. We said, how 257 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,080 S2: you doing? I came over for dinner. She goes, I'll 258 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,360 S2: tell you how I'm doing. It was the start of 259 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,640 S2: the new year. She goes, I got a one year commitment. 260 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,719 S2: I said, oh really? What's that? She goes, this is 261 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,040 S2: the year of me. 262 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:17,800 S3: Oh. 263 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,200 S2: And she didn't mean it in a bad way. But 264 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,600 S2: she said, I'm going to keep giving, but I'm going 265 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,280 S2: to focus on some self-care this year. 266 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:27,240 S4: That's good. 267 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:27,440 S3: That's. 268 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,320 S4: Good. There's an importance to that. 269 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:30,360 S5: There is. 270 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,480 S2: He cracked me up. But the problem is, when you 271 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,229 S2: got two decades of you, That's the rub. 272 00:14:38,310 --> 00:14:38,790 S3: Yeah. 273 00:14:38,830 --> 00:14:39,750 S5: We need to talk. 274 00:14:41,630 --> 00:14:43,390 S2: Coming up here in a moment. We got a special 275 00:14:43,390 --> 00:14:46,630 S2: guest with us. And, um, have you ever thought about this? 276 00:14:47,150 --> 00:14:50,870 S2: That there is real power in generosity? And are you 277 00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:56,550 S2: experiencing God's amazing abundance in your stewardship? Hang on. 278 00:14:56,590 --> 00:14:59,110 S8: You are listening to the Carl and Crew show cast. 279 00:14:59,110 --> 00:15:02,550 S8: I'm Diana Super Di, and so glad you've tuned in. 280 00:15:02,590 --> 00:15:05,310 S8: Just a bit of a intermission. You know you can 281 00:15:05,310 --> 00:15:09,109 S8: hear us live weekday mornings from 5 to 9 central. 282 00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:12,630 S8: That's right, Carl and crew. Weekday mornings 5 to 9 283 00:15:12,670 --> 00:15:15,510 S8: central with all the great ways to hear us. Just 284 00:15:15,510 --> 00:15:18,870 S8: check it out at Carl and crew. Now back to 285 00:15:18,910 --> 00:15:19,950 S8: the Carl and crew show. 286 00:15:20,910 --> 00:15:23,790 S1: Tune in whenever you like. Check out the Carl and 287 00:15:23,790 --> 00:15:26,390 S1: Crew podcast wherever you like to stream. 288 00:15:27,230 --> 00:15:30,550 S2: So you've heard it said there are givers and takers. 289 00:15:30,550 --> 00:15:33,230 S2: And by the way, I forget who coined that phrase. 290 00:15:33,230 --> 00:15:36,410 S2: It was many years ago now. But here's the awesome 291 00:15:36,410 --> 00:15:40,530 S2: thing about the gospel. God can take natural born takers, 292 00:15:40,530 --> 00:15:41,650 S2: and I believe that. 293 00:15:42,770 --> 00:15:43,410 S3: That's just all of. 294 00:15:43,410 --> 00:15:46,970 S2: Us, which is all of us, and turned us into givers. 295 00:15:47,730 --> 00:15:50,050 S3: Natural born takers into givers. I think that's a good 296 00:15:50,090 --> 00:15:50,690 S3: book title. 297 00:15:50,730 --> 00:15:54,610 S2: Yeah, but here's the kicker with this thing some of 298 00:15:54,610 --> 00:15:58,010 S2: us have become reluctant givers. This is why what we 299 00:15:58,050 --> 00:16:01,130 S2: find Paul, you know, writing to the church in Corinth, 300 00:16:01,130 --> 00:16:06,490 S2: he's like, hey, give with joy. Not reluctantly or under compulsion. 301 00:16:06,970 --> 00:16:10,050 S2: And the question is, have we left some good stuff 302 00:16:10,090 --> 00:16:14,729 S2: on the table? Have we held back, casting a biblical 303 00:16:14,730 --> 00:16:20,970 S2: vision for experiencing God while we are givers? What do 304 00:16:20,970 --> 00:16:23,530 S2: you think? Boy, have we missed something here, man. 305 00:16:23,970 --> 00:16:25,650 S9: You've nailed it. We can close in prayer. 306 00:16:25,690 --> 00:16:28,010 S10: Carl, that's a great way to. 307 00:16:28,050 --> 00:16:30,490 S9: You know, as you were talking, I was thinking, there 308 00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:32,530 S9: are two people in the equation. There's the giver and 309 00:16:32,530 --> 00:16:36,990 S9: the receiver. The receiver, of course, is different from a taker. However, 310 00:16:36,990 --> 00:16:39,910 S9: there's a blessing for both. It's like God's designed his 311 00:16:39,950 --> 00:16:44,950 S9: economy that through generosity, he wants to even bless the 312 00:16:44,950 --> 00:16:49,830 S9: giver with additional blessings beyond the receiver. And so I 313 00:16:49,830 --> 00:16:52,950 S9: think as we walk this walk of faith in generosity, 314 00:16:52,990 --> 00:16:55,190 S9: God takes his places. We wouldn't go otherwise. 315 00:16:55,230 --> 00:16:57,590 S3: Love it. Boyd Bailey, our guest right now. He is 316 00:16:57,590 --> 00:17:02,590 S3: the author of The Power of Generosity Experiencing God's Amazing Abundance. 317 00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:05,630 S3: You know, when we think about the cultural messages that 318 00:17:05,630 --> 00:17:09,669 S3: promote self promotion, getting more, uh, making sure that I 319 00:17:09,670 --> 00:17:12,910 S3: push myself to the front. Well, how do we compare 320 00:17:12,910 --> 00:17:16,710 S3: and contrast that with the Kingdom message that we are, 321 00:17:16,750 --> 00:17:18,710 S3: that the first will be last, and all of the 322 00:17:18,750 --> 00:17:21,629 S3: upside down kingdom principles that we see throughout Scripture? 323 00:17:22,270 --> 00:17:25,350 S9: You know, I'm glad Jesus is such a wonderful model 324 00:17:25,350 --> 00:17:27,630 S9: for us. You know, he didn't really even have any money. 325 00:17:27,670 --> 00:17:30,750 S9: He had to borrow a coin to tell a story. 326 00:17:30,790 --> 00:17:32,930 S9: You know. And he had women around him that were 327 00:17:32,930 --> 00:17:36,689 S9: his fundraisers that supported him. And so Jesus humbled himself. 328 00:17:36,690 --> 00:17:39,370 S9: He became a man. You know, his whole from his 329 00:17:39,369 --> 00:17:42,490 S9: birth to his death was humility. And so I think 330 00:17:42,530 --> 00:17:45,170 S9: once I remember in college, I didn't grow up in 331 00:17:45,170 --> 00:17:49,570 S9: church and just receiving Jesus as a young adult, that 332 00:17:49,570 --> 00:17:52,730 S9: gratitude that just flows out of us. I think that's 333 00:17:52,730 --> 00:17:55,570 S9: one of the keys to generosity, is really living that 334 00:17:55,570 --> 00:17:58,330 S9: life of humility and gratitude. And I think generosity is 335 00:17:58,330 --> 00:18:00,970 S9: just a just a normal fruit that flows out of that. 336 00:18:00,970 --> 00:18:01,410 S4: Yeah. 337 00:18:01,450 --> 00:18:05,090 S2: It's so cool. You know, Boyd, um, we got to 338 00:18:05,130 --> 00:18:09,930 S2: reclaim some turf because there's a lot of guys, and 339 00:18:09,930 --> 00:18:11,970 S2: we talk about this here a lot because we're trying 340 00:18:11,970 --> 00:18:16,650 S2: to debunk myths, some that that are just really out there. 341 00:18:16,650 --> 00:18:19,930 S2: And one is the prosperity gospel. In fact, I've been 342 00:18:19,930 --> 00:18:24,850 S2: renaming it the Gospel of Prosperity, but it's right here 343 00:18:24,850 --> 00:18:27,610 S2: in second Corinthians nine. And I love this. And it 344 00:18:27,609 --> 00:18:30,600 S2: fits so well with what we're talking about here today. 345 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,639 S2: Paul's challenging folks, and I'm not going to read the 346 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,560 S2: whole thing to to not so sparingly but to so 347 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,240 S2: generously and reap bountifully. And and then he goes on. 348 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,280 S2: You just read down a little bit further. He says 349 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,040 S2: you will be enriched in every way to be generous 350 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:55,639 S2: in every way. And he's talking about this vision of 351 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,680 S2: what it is to be a joyful giver. And I 352 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:05,280 S2: think we've leaned into duty and the 10% and breathe it, 353 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,400 S2: bring it into the storehouse without giving people this radical 354 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,680 S2: vision of what God wants to do through our generosity. 355 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,000 S2: What have you learned? God does want to do through 356 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,159 S2: a generous spirit. 357 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,600 S10: Yeah, I'm still learning. 358 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,280 S9: And you referenced, you know, a classic passage there. And, 359 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,240 S9: you know, he's writing to the wealthy church, the Corinthians, 360 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,180 S9: but he's illustrating a poor church, the The Macedonians as 361 00:19:29,180 --> 00:19:31,460 S9: the example. And so it's not the amount of money, 362 00:19:31,460 --> 00:19:33,860 S9: it's what you just said. It's the attitude, it's the heart. 363 00:19:33,900 --> 00:19:35,860 S9: It's said by the grace of God in the very 364 00:19:35,859 --> 00:19:38,220 S9: first verse there in that passage, by the grace of God, 365 00:19:38,220 --> 00:19:42,220 S9: the Macedonians gave with great joy out of their poverty. 366 00:19:42,260 --> 00:19:43,820 S9: I mean, it was a privilege to them. You know, 367 00:19:43,859 --> 00:19:46,219 S9: John Mark comer used to say it was a God tax, 368 00:19:46,220 --> 00:19:47,699 S9: that he said it was more of a duty. I 369 00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:51,220 S9: had to pay my God tax. No, actually, God owns everything. 370 00:19:51,260 --> 00:19:53,300 S9: My prayer is not how much should I give? My 371 00:19:53,300 --> 00:19:55,300 S9: prayer should actually be. How much should I keep? Lord, 372 00:19:55,300 --> 00:19:57,939 S9: this is all yours. You own it. You've just blessed 373 00:19:57,940 --> 00:20:00,900 S9: me to be a wonderful steward of your blessings. And 374 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:03,979 S9: so lead me in this process. Really, I like to 375 00:20:03,980 --> 00:20:07,060 S9: call it generous living more than generous giving. 376 00:20:07,260 --> 00:20:09,220 S3: Boyd Bailey, our guest right now is the president of 377 00:20:09,220 --> 00:20:12,140 S3: the National Christian Foundation of Georgia, also author of The 378 00:20:12,140 --> 00:20:16,740 S3: Power of Generosity Experiencing God's Amazing Abundance. Curious about your 379 00:20:16,780 --> 00:20:19,820 S3: own story, Boyd, what journey did God take you on 380 00:20:19,859 --> 00:20:21,740 S3: to get you to the point where this is your 381 00:20:21,740 --> 00:20:24,619 S3: heart and your passion? Have you always been a joyful, 382 00:20:24,660 --> 00:20:25,879 S3: generous giver? her. 383 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:30,520 S9: No I haven't. It's it's it's. I still kind of 384 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,440 S9: start and stop, you know? Uh, I tell you, my wife, Rita. 385 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,640 S9: Can I give her credit? We have four teenage daughters. 386 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:37,160 S5: Wow. 387 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,200 S9: And so? So my prayer life with. When we had 388 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,080 S9: four teenage daughters, my prayer life really accelerated. And my 389 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,640 S9: wife Rita was so focused on. We're going to stay 390 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,199 S9: faithful to give to our church. And so we we 391 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,280 S9: decided one summer to have a staycation. You know, that 392 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,720 S9: was just another way of saying we didn't have money 393 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,080 S9: to have a regular vacation. 394 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:54,680 S11: Yeah. Right. 395 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,720 S9: And guys, you know how God's economy works sometimes. Not always. 396 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,920 S9: But a friend comes up to us, they say, hey. 397 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:01,760 S9: And they had no idea we were doing the staycation. 398 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,400 S9: They just said, we just built a beach house. We 399 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,560 S9: want your four girls and you to go down and 400 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,080 S9: enjoy that. You just need to pay the $250, you know, 401 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,560 S9: housing cleaning fee. And I'm like, well, there's some things 402 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,919 S9: you don't have to pray about, you know? Absolutely. We're in. 403 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,959 S9: And did you know for 15 straight years they offered 404 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,640 S9: that something we would never have been able to afford, 405 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,840 S9: but it allowed them to be blessed. And it allowed 406 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,109 S9: us to have an incredible blessing through receiving that. And so, 407 00:21:26,150 --> 00:21:29,429 S9: you know, that's God's economy is just that giving being 408 00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:31,629 S9: in community. I think that's the word I like to say. 409 00:21:31,630 --> 00:21:35,030 S9: We can't do generosity in our generous living by ourselves. 410 00:21:35,030 --> 00:21:37,150 S9: We have to do it. I think in community, that's 411 00:21:37,150 --> 00:21:38,190 S9: what we see in the word. 412 00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:40,550 S2: I'm going to hit you with a tough one here, Boyd. 413 00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:43,910 S2: This one isn't going to be easy, but we live 414 00:21:43,910 --> 00:21:49,750 S2: in a very wealthy nation. We are rich. And I'm 415 00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:54,550 S2: not talking 1%. That's the Uber wealthy, right? Let's just. 416 00:21:54,550 --> 00:21:54,830 S3: Break. 417 00:21:55,190 --> 00:22:00,350 S2: Let's just get honest here. Even five, 10%, that's Uber wealth. 418 00:22:01,910 --> 00:22:06,790 S2: How do we know that we aren't table scraping God. 419 00:22:06,790 --> 00:22:11,950 S2: And we're actually being generous because one man's sacrifice can 420 00:22:11,950 --> 00:22:15,389 S2: be another man's tip. Let's be honest here, Boyd. 421 00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:15,870 S9: Yes. 422 00:22:15,910 --> 00:22:16,270 S2: Right. 423 00:22:16,910 --> 00:22:20,270 S9: Well, you know, this sounds, you know, maybe a simple answer, 424 00:22:20,270 --> 00:22:23,609 S9: but for me, it has to start with prayer. You know, 425 00:22:23,609 --> 00:22:27,490 S9: if it's the Holy Spirit that's cultivating my heart around generosity. 426 00:22:27,490 --> 00:22:29,250 S9: In fact, here's a prayer I started praying a few 427 00:22:29,250 --> 00:22:32,970 S9: years back. Lord, show me today how you would have 428 00:22:32,970 --> 00:22:35,409 S9: me to be generous. He said, first of all, I 429 00:22:35,410 --> 00:22:37,330 S9: want you to be more generous in our time together. 430 00:22:37,690 --> 00:22:40,570 S9: It's like, boy, I want to grow your capacity to 431 00:22:40,609 --> 00:22:44,250 S9: love generously. So let's just spend more time together. And you, 432 00:22:44,290 --> 00:22:46,889 S9: you just listen to my heart. Read the word. Listen 433 00:22:46,890 --> 00:22:49,850 S9: to allow the Holy Spirit to. To grow you. And 434 00:22:49,850 --> 00:22:52,050 S9: then throughout the day, I would I try to pray 435 00:22:52,050 --> 00:22:54,330 S9: that prayer. So if I'm at lunch and the server 436 00:22:54,330 --> 00:22:57,129 S9: walks up and I see their name instead of just 437 00:22:57,130 --> 00:23:01,570 S9: treating them as nobody, it's like, Jim, wow, tell me 438 00:23:01,570 --> 00:23:03,490 S9: your story. You know, that kind of thing. Really being 439 00:23:03,490 --> 00:23:06,050 S9: generous with my attention. And I think what happens Carl 440 00:23:06,050 --> 00:23:10,210 S9: and Allie once the mindset of Jesus literally renewing my 441 00:23:10,210 --> 00:23:12,450 S9: mind through the power of the Holy Spirit through the word, 442 00:23:12,770 --> 00:23:15,649 S9: then the generosity just becomes a natural fruit of the 443 00:23:15,650 --> 00:23:18,409 S9: Holy Spirit. And then I can't wait to add a 444 00:23:18,410 --> 00:23:20,730 S9: zero to the check, or I can't wait to volunteer 445 00:23:20,770 --> 00:23:23,350 S9: more time. And like you said earlier, it's done out 446 00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:26,710 S9: of love, not compulsion. It's done out of wow, I 447 00:23:26,750 --> 00:23:29,270 S9: get to do this. I don't have to do this. 448 00:23:29,310 --> 00:23:32,350 S3: Boyd I love that question, Lord. Or that prayer. Lord, 449 00:23:32,350 --> 00:23:35,590 S3: show me today how I can be more generous. So simple. 450 00:23:35,590 --> 00:23:37,270 S3: And I love that you linked it to things other 451 00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:41,150 S3: than money, because it is absolutely true that for some people, 452 00:23:41,150 --> 00:23:44,590 S3: the giving of money is actually easier. It's easier to 453 00:23:44,590 --> 00:23:47,510 S3: be generous with money, more so than other things such 454 00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:48,190 S3: as time. 455 00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:49,470 S2: Yeah, I hadn't thought about that. 456 00:23:49,830 --> 00:23:52,670 S3: And so I speak to that a little bit sometimes. 457 00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:55,350 S3: Oftentimes it's money where we are tempted to kind of 458 00:23:55,390 --> 00:23:57,910 S3: hold back a little bit. But it's not just money. 459 00:23:58,270 --> 00:24:00,670 S12: You know, as I mentioned earlier, I talked about community. 460 00:24:00,670 --> 00:24:02,790 S12: And I think community is a great way to get 461 00:24:02,790 --> 00:24:07,710 S12: creative ideas around generosity versus just the financial piece. We 462 00:24:07,710 --> 00:24:10,310 S12: have four son in laws now. We have a monthly time. 463 00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:12,750 S12: We get together for Mexican food and a movie. And 464 00:24:12,910 --> 00:24:15,149 S12: part of that discussion is we talk a lot about 465 00:24:15,150 --> 00:24:20,020 S12: being intentional. For example, relationally, am I being generous relationally 466 00:24:20,020 --> 00:24:22,980 S12: with those who you know love me the most and 467 00:24:22,980 --> 00:24:25,460 S12: care for me the best. And and we like to 468 00:24:25,460 --> 00:24:27,980 S12: say this am I reserving time for those who will 469 00:24:27,980 --> 00:24:30,619 S12: sit in the reserve section in my funeral? So I 470 00:24:30,619 --> 00:24:34,780 S12: think that's a good example of being relationally generous, looking 471 00:24:34,780 --> 00:24:37,300 S12: for those in our circle of influence. How can I 472 00:24:37,340 --> 00:24:41,220 S12: be intentional to use my influence? Maybe somebody in career transition? 473 00:24:41,220 --> 00:24:43,180 S12: They need an introduction. They need a job. They need 474 00:24:43,180 --> 00:24:46,020 S12: a resource. There's so many ways. I mean, God has 475 00:24:46,060 --> 00:24:49,620 S12: blessed us with so many possibilities. I think it's back 476 00:24:49,619 --> 00:24:52,740 S12: to the prayer, Lord, show me today what it looks 477 00:24:52,740 --> 00:24:55,260 S12: like for for me to be generous, to glorify you, 478 00:24:55,260 --> 00:24:57,740 S12: to help bring people to Jesus. And I'll just say 479 00:24:57,740 --> 00:25:01,500 S12: lastly around this, I think generosity is a great apologetic 480 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:05,340 S12: for the gospel. I mean, people are like Boyd, why? 481 00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:08,179 S12: Why do you volunteer your time? Why do you give financially? 482 00:25:08,180 --> 00:25:10,220 S12: Why do you take your children on mission trips? Well, 483 00:25:10,220 --> 00:25:13,420 S12: it's because here's what God's done for us through Christ Jesus. 484 00:25:13,420 --> 00:25:15,979 S12: So I would just leave it with that. The beauty 485 00:25:15,980 --> 00:25:18,800 S12: of generosity is ultimately our goal is to bring people 486 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,400 S12: to Jesus. 487 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,960 S2: We bring our mutual friend on here a lot, Rob West, 488 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,639 S2: and this guy's amazing, by the way. Oh my goodness. 489 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,800 S2: I mean Rob yeah, just truth and love. It's so powerful. 490 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,200 S2: But a lot of folks that are listening to you 491 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,560 S2: right now go the power of generosity. Experiencing God's amazing abundance. 492 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,320 S2: And we're going to have a link for this great 493 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,840 S2: work that's just come out. But you know what? Here's 494 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,800 S2: the bottom line, Boyd. I would say the majority of 495 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,960 S2: people that find themselves in a thriving church with great 496 00:25:52,960 --> 00:26:00,240 S2: preaching are so mismanaged with regard to their finances that 497 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,720 S2: right now, this message is a message of deep conviction, 498 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,879 S2: if not condemnation. Frankly, a little bit of condemnation coming. 499 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,080 S3: Why do you think condemnation? 500 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,520 S2: Because they do not have the bandwidth to give dip 501 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,000 S2: diddly squat. And they want to. Yeah. Straight up. So 502 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,300 S2: what do you say, Boyd? To the person that feels like. Shoot, 503 00:26:19,300 --> 00:26:22,780 S2: I've so mismanaged things in the past, I'm screwed up 504 00:26:22,780 --> 00:26:25,500 S2: right now. I can't even give. What do you say, Boyd? 505 00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:30,260 S12: Start small. Don't overwhelm yourself. Be generous to yourself with 506 00:26:30,260 --> 00:26:33,060 S12: God's grace. We don't serve a hard man. The parable 507 00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:34,740 S12: of the talents. The one man that was frozen by 508 00:26:34,740 --> 00:26:37,940 S12: fear because he saw his master as a hard man. 509 00:26:37,940 --> 00:26:40,419 S12: And he was not generous with what the master had 510 00:26:40,420 --> 00:26:46,060 S12: given him. We have a loving, gracious, giving, generous heavenly Father. 511 00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:50,020 S12: And so, real quickly in thanksgiving, we gave each grandchild 512 00:26:50,020 --> 00:26:52,700 S12: an envelope with their name in $20. And we just said, 513 00:26:52,740 --> 00:26:56,060 S12: between now and Christmas, give this to someone. But it's 514 00:26:56,060 --> 00:26:58,940 S12: more than the money. We want this to be generous, love. 515 00:26:58,940 --> 00:27:01,740 S12: Come back and tell the story about that person. And 516 00:27:01,740 --> 00:27:03,780 S12: so at Christmas, they're going to come back and say 517 00:27:03,780 --> 00:27:08,179 S12: where they bless someone the garbage collector, some a neighbor, 518 00:27:08,180 --> 00:27:10,659 S12: whoever might be. So I would just say, start small 519 00:27:10,820 --> 00:27:14,800 S12: and remember, we have a loving, generous, gracious, Heavenly Father 520 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,119 S12: that wants us to be generous. And he's going to 521 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:17,679 S12: show us how. 522 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,800 S3: Boyd Bailey, he's the author of The Power of Generosity. 523 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:27,840 S3: Experiencing God's Amazing Abundance text. Power to 800 555 7898. 524 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,280 S3: Power to 800 555 7898. 525 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,760 S1: He's a sports fanatic with a stat for anything you 526 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,000 S1: can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's 527 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,200 S1: curling crew on Moody Radio. 528 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,920 S2: And got some big news coming up January 5th with 529 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,680 S2: this young man that we've got on board with us here. 530 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,439 S2: We'll get to that in just a moment, but we 531 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,840 S2: want to bring in Philip miller here. He is the 532 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,600 S2: lead pastor of the Moody Church in Chicago since 2020 533 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,000 S2: July 2020. Philip, I want to jump right in the 534 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,560 S2: deep end here. My man. Christmas is awesome and can 535 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,400 S2: be challenging because of all the curveballs that come our way, 536 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,679 S2: whether it's family traditions or the busyness of the season. 537 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,840 S2: What do you say, my man? 538 00:28:13,109 --> 00:28:16,310 S13: Yeah, well, good morning, Carl and Ellie. And, uh. Yeah, 539 00:28:16,350 --> 00:28:19,470 S13: I think the the trouble with Christmas, right? Is we've 540 00:28:19,470 --> 00:28:21,990 S13: got all this joy, and we've got all these songs 541 00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:25,870 S13: and everything's happy all around us. And then deep down, 542 00:28:25,869 --> 00:28:30,750 S13: we sometimes feel the ache of a broken world, broken relationships, 543 00:28:30,750 --> 00:28:34,310 S13: broken pain in our own lives. And that dissonance between 544 00:28:34,350 --> 00:28:37,390 S13: the the cheeriness on the outside and the brokenness on 545 00:28:37,390 --> 00:28:39,590 S13: the inside can be a really hard place to live. 546 00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:41,830 S3: Have you seen this to be true in your own life? 547 00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:45,390 S3: You don't have to get into, uh, specifics, but is 548 00:28:45,390 --> 00:28:47,830 S3: there a situation that comes to mind for you that 549 00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:49,910 S3: this season brings up? 550 00:28:50,390 --> 00:28:53,950 S13: Well, you know, I can get actually really personal here, but, uh, 551 00:28:53,950 --> 00:28:56,470 S13: just a couple of weeks ago, I, um, I did 552 00:28:56,470 --> 00:29:00,150 S13: the funeral for my grandma, and, um, and so we 553 00:29:00,190 --> 00:29:03,190 S13: we buried her, and, um, and so this is our 554 00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:07,510 S13: first Christmas without her, and, um, and so, yeah, that 555 00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:10,870 S13: that sort of the the joy of Christmas co-mingled with 556 00:29:11,370 --> 00:29:16,370 S13: the grief of losing someone who was really precious to me. Um, 557 00:29:16,410 --> 00:29:19,570 S13: that's that's real. Right? That's that's where we all live. 558 00:29:20,330 --> 00:29:22,850 S2: Yeah. And here's what's interesting. So we're looking at Exodus 559 00:29:22,850 --> 00:29:25,330 S2: three today, but it's all over Scripture, Philip. I mean, 560 00:29:25,330 --> 00:29:31,650 S2: here's the reality. Sometimes we languish under the pain of 561 00:29:32,210 --> 00:29:36,450 S2: what the nation of Israel, their slaves in Egypt, they're 562 00:29:36,450 --> 00:29:42,210 S2: getting brutalized. Things are tough. And yet they prayed. And 563 00:29:42,210 --> 00:29:45,130 S2: God says in verse seven of Exodus three, he says, 564 00:29:45,130 --> 00:29:48,370 S2: he sees and he hears. But sometimes there's a gap 565 00:29:48,370 --> 00:29:51,530 S2: between what God sees, hears in the provision he has 566 00:29:51,530 --> 00:29:54,250 S2: for our deliverance. It's in that gap when we can 567 00:29:54,250 --> 00:29:57,530 S2: get weak in the knees. What have you learned, my man? 568 00:29:57,930 --> 00:30:00,010 S13: Well, you know, I was looking at that verse, uh, 569 00:30:00,010 --> 00:30:03,930 S13: just recently and there's there's some really important verbs here. 570 00:30:03,970 --> 00:30:07,410 S13: He said, the Lord says, I've surely seen the affliction 571 00:30:07,410 --> 00:30:10,670 S13: of my people. He sees us. I think that's really 572 00:30:10,670 --> 00:30:13,550 S13: important to remember. The Lord sees us in our pain, 573 00:30:13,870 --> 00:30:18,070 S13: in the things we're going through. Like he's he's not disconnected. 574 00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:21,710 S13: He's not blind to it. He's not turning away. He 575 00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:25,550 S13: sees it. Um, and then he says, I've heard their cry, 576 00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:28,590 S13: which is again beautiful. He hears our prayers when we 577 00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:32,950 S13: cry to him out of our pain. He's. He's listening. 578 00:30:33,310 --> 00:30:37,990 S13: He says, I know their sufferings, that God actually is 579 00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:41,270 S13: intimately aware of what it means to hurt and suffer. 580 00:30:41,270 --> 00:30:44,190 S13: This is amazing. Of course we know this like that, 581 00:30:44,190 --> 00:30:48,190 S13: that God is tethered to our pain. He. He. Jesus 582 00:30:48,190 --> 00:30:52,750 S13: Christ suffered. He wept at the tomb of Lazarus. You 583 00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:55,470 S13: know he he died. He was crucified. God the father 584 00:30:55,470 --> 00:30:59,390 S13: has lost a beloved son on the cross. Like our 585 00:30:59,390 --> 00:31:02,710 S13: God is not immune to pain. He knows it from 586 00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:06,550 S13: the inside out. And then he says, And I've come down, 587 00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:10,420 S13: I've come down to deliver you. And so he enters 588 00:31:10,420 --> 00:31:13,060 S13: into a broken world, into our pain. And that's what 589 00:31:13,060 --> 00:31:17,580 S13: the incarnation is all about, right? The, the, the story 590 00:31:17,580 --> 00:31:20,620 S13: of Jesus is that he moved into the neighborhood. He 591 00:31:20,780 --> 00:31:24,100 S13: he took on our flesh, and he entered into our 592 00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:27,420 S13: suffering and our pain to redeem us and rescue us 593 00:31:27,580 --> 00:31:30,700 S13: and to lift us out of it. And so I, 594 00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:36,580 S13: I think when we are experiencing the dissonance of suffering 595 00:31:36,580 --> 00:31:38,500 S13: and pain and all of that, I think it's really 596 00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:42,300 S13: important to remember that we have a God who sees 597 00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:46,260 S13: us and knows us and enters into this pain with us. 598 00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:50,540 S13: He he moves down into the neighborhood and he takes 599 00:31:50,540 --> 00:31:55,100 S13: our place, puts on our skin, and has literally born 600 00:31:55,140 --> 00:31:57,900 S13: the suffering of the world from the inside out. I 601 00:31:57,940 --> 00:32:01,620 S13: think it's remarkable. Uh, you know that the Psalms talk 602 00:32:01,660 --> 00:32:05,060 S13: about that God the Father, um, that he's near to 603 00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:09,520 S13: the Brokenhearted. Uh, Jesus, we know is a man of sorrows, 604 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,000 S13: acquainted with grief. The Holy Spirit groans with us with words. 605 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,080 S13: You know in prayer that we can't even express. Right? 606 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,040 S13: So the all three members of the Triune God, father, 607 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,040 S13: Son and Holy Spirit, uh, they grieve with us in 608 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,560 S13: the brokenness of this world. This is not the way 609 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,080 S13: it's supposed to be. And so God knows. God sees. 610 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,920 S13: God cares. And we are not alone. And I, I 611 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:41,360 S13: think that's tremendously comforting. Good news that the Christian faith 612 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,640 S13: does not require you to just put on a cheery 613 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,680 S13: look and a mask that looks like it's happy, happy, 614 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,520 S13: happy all the time. That that the Christian faith is 615 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,560 S13: deep enough, robust enough to allow you to feel the 616 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,840 S13: weight of a broken world and cling to a God 617 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,400 S13: who will never let you go, who sees and knows, 618 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,220 S13: who enters into our pain and who can lift us 619 00:33:05,220 --> 00:33:09,340 S13: up and we'll redeem everything. That's what Christmas is pointing 620 00:33:09,340 --> 00:33:13,060 S13: us to. Ultimately, the redemption of all things. And that's 621 00:33:13,380 --> 00:33:16,140 S13: a little bit of what the Exodus is showing us. 622 00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:19,620 S13: It's a picture of the redemption that Jesus is going 623 00:33:19,660 --> 00:33:23,060 S13: to bring. Ultimately, he brought it for Israel in the past, 624 00:33:23,060 --> 00:33:26,020 S13: and he's bringing it through Jesus in the cross. And 625 00:33:26,020 --> 00:33:28,220 S13: he's one day Jesus is going to return and make 626 00:33:28,220 --> 00:33:31,260 S13: all things new. And so that's the ultimate exodus. And 627 00:33:31,260 --> 00:33:32,780 S13: that's the thing we're waiting for. 628 00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:35,340 S3: Philip miller, our guest right now, senior pastor of the 629 00:33:35,340 --> 00:33:39,459 S3: Moody Church right here in Chicago, a new program coming 630 00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:42,900 S3: to the Moody Radio Network, living Hope, starting on January 631 00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:45,780 S3: 5th of next year. Give us a preview. 632 00:33:46,020 --> 00:33:49,780 S13: Yeah, so we're really excited about this. Moody church has 633 00:33:49,780 --> 00:33:55,340 S13: been involved in radio for a long time, since 1925. 634 00:33:55,620 --> 00:33:59,140 S13: And so we have a long history of doing radio ministry. 635 00:33:59,140 --> 00:34:02,340 S13: And so I've been on the Moody Church Hour on 636 00:34:02,340 --> 00:34:05,210 S13: the weekends for a while, but now we're going to 637 00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:09,210 S13: start a daily radio program that will play Monday through Friday. 638 00:34:09,570 --> 00:34:12,170 S13: And it's called living Hope. And it's a place where 639 00:34:12,170 --> 00:34:15,330 S13: you can hear gospel truth for the journey of a lifetime. 640 00:34:15,330 --> 00:34:17,690 S13: And we're really excited about that. That'll be coming up 641 00:34:17,690 --> 00:34:18,890 S13: on January 5th. 642 00:34:19,170 --> 00:34:21,130 S2: Yeah, we got a link for you. Boom crew. Just 643 00:34:21,130 --> 00:34:23,290 S2: text living and we're going to get you all up today. 644 00:34:23,290 --> 00:34:25,209 S2: And about when this thing is going to pop off. 645 00:34:25,250 --> 00:34:31,810 S2: You got the date January 5th. Living to 800 555 7898. 646 00:34:31,850 --> 00:34:37,649 S2: One word living to 800 555 7898. 647 00:34:37,969 --> 00:34:40,730 S1: She was trying to earn her way to God, but 648 00:34:40,730 --> 00:34:44,170 S1: God showed her she didn't have to. Alli is in 649 00:34:44,210 --> 00:34:47,609 S1: the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio. 650 00:34:47,650 --> 00:34:51,290 S2: It's Garland crew here. Got some feedback. What's the temperatures around? 651 00:34:51,290 --> 00:34:53,370 S2: We did a weather check here earlier. Alli? 652 00:34:53,610 --> 00:34:57,090 S3: Yes. And so lots of 70s in the in Florida, 653 00:34:57,090 --> 00:34:59,650 S3: which made me a little bit jealous. But those of 654 00:34:59,650 --> 00:35:02,589 S3: us in the Midwest are, you know, we're buried a 655 00:35:02,590 --> 00:35:05,910 S3: little bit. Lots of snow here in Chicago. Up to 656 00:35:05,950 --> 00:35:08,710 S3: 17in on the ground and freezing. 657 00:35:09,469 --> 00:35:12,710 S2: So I want to go beyond Chicagoland and beyond the 658 00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:17,630 S2: United States of America. I want Canada and anyone outside 659 00:35:17,630 --> 00:35:22,190 S2: the continental United States to weigh in temperature. And where 660 00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:24,670 S2: are you today? I don't know why. I just want 661 00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:28,149 S2: to beat ourselves up here in Chicagoland. I guess all 662 00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:30,430 S2: the Midwesterners. We got to hear how nice it is 663 00:35:30,430 --> 00:35:35,549 S2: out there now. Someone might be listening in Barrow. 664 00:35:36,350 --> 00:35:37,390 S4: Barrow, Alaska. 665 00:35:37,590 --> 00:35:41,590 S2: Because we have listeners in Barrow, Alaska. How cool is that? 666 00:35:41,790 --> 00:35:42,750 S4: That's pretty awesome. 667 00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:45,149 S2: All right. Got to know where you're calling in from. 668 00:35:45,150 --> 00:35:48,310 S2: Somebody goes 74 in little cloudy. So I'm looking outside 669 00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:53,670 S2: the continental United States, 805 55 7898. This lets us 670 00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:55,670 S2: do a couple of fun things. Find out where in 671 00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:58,589 S2: the world are you and what's the temperature where you're 672 00:35:58,590 --> 00:36:02,890 S2: at 800 555 7898. Just dawned on me. It might 673 00:36:02,890 --> 00:36:05,130 S2: be tough to get a text message in from there, right? 674 00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:07,770 S4: Uh, it could be, depending on what their plan is 675 00:36:07,770 --> 00:36:09,810 S4: or if they have, you know, if they're international, if 676 00:36:09,810 --> 00:36:11,730 S4: they have international texting, some people do. 677 00:36:11,930 --> 00:36:14,850 S2: Yeah. I'd encourage you to. We got Costa Rica weighing 678 00:36:14,850 --> 00:36:18,010 S2: in with 74 and partly cloudy right there this morning. 679 00:36:18,050 --> 00:36:18,410 S5: Come on. 680 00:36:19,250 --> 00:36:19,810 S3: And a. 681 00:36:19,810 --> 00:36:20,410 S5: Picture. 682 00:36:21,010 --> 00:36:22,410 S2: And a picture to go along. 683 00:36:22,410 --> 00:36:24,810 S3: With it. Beautiful views in Costa Rica. 684 00:36:25,489 --> 00:36:26,770 S4: Oh that's awesome. 685 00:36:26,850 --> 00:36:28,330 S5: Oh, I'm just like oh. 686 00:36:29,690 --> 00:36:32,210 S2: Which, by the way, while we're waiting for your responses, 687 00:36:32,210 --> 00:36:34,569 S2: I do want to talk about our app that we 688 00:36:34,570 --> 00:36:38,169 S2: mentioned in the first hour. Um, we'll we'll, uh, get 689 00:36:38,170 --> 00:36:40,489 S2: to that here in just a moment. But here's the question. 690 00:36:40,489 --> 00:36:44,930 S2: Where are you? Outside the continental United States. And how 691 00:36:44,969 --> 00:36:47,490 S2: warm is it there? Or how cold is it there? 692 00:36:47,530 --> 00:36:50,729 S2: Could be cold as well. Somebody said Ohio. No, you're 693 00:36:50,730 --> 00:36:53,529 S2: in the continental United States, but it's 26, and I'm 694 00:36:53,530 --> 00:37:02,350 S2: with you there. Um, 800 555 78. 98. 805. Five. Five. 78. 98. 695 00:37:02,350 --> 00:37:05,029 S2: And this is. This is a great opportunity for us 696 00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:07,310 S2: to spike this app. Because there's no way if you're 697 00:37:07,310 --> 00:37:10,670 S2: outside the continental United States, you're listening on anything but 698 00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:12,550 S2: the app or computer, right? 699 00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:15,989 S3: Correct. And so some people still aren't aware that you 700 00:37:15,989 --> 00:37:19,149 S3: don't have to physically be connected to your radio, whether 701 00:37:19,150 --> 00:37:21,430 S3: it's in the car or your house. You can actually 702 00:37:21,469 --> 00:37:23,830 S3: take Moody Radio with you wherever you go. So you 703 00:37:23,870 --> 00:37:26,830 S3: do you can listen on the go. Just download the 704 00:37:26,830 --> 00:37:33,430 S3: Moody Radio app text app to 800 555 7898. App 705 00:37:33,590 --> 00:37:38,950 S3: app to 800 555 7898. Actually put up a video 706 00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:43,070 S3: about a week ago on our Facebook and Instagram, walking 707 00:37:43,070 --> 00:37:45,230 S3: you through how to do it step by step. 708 00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:45,830 S2: Oh, wow. 709 00:37:45,950 --> 00:37:48,189 S3: Yeah. So to make it easier for you. So just 710 00:37:48,190 --> 00:37:52,190 S3: text app to 800 555 7898. If you are new 711 00:37:52,190 --> 00:37:54,670 S3: to this whole thing I get it. Just check out 712 00:37:54,670 --> 00:37:57,299 S3: Facebook and Instagram and look for that video. I'll walk 713 00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:58,020 S3: you through it. 714 00:37:58,060 --> 00:38:02,900 S2: Oh, way to go, alley man. She's putting up blaze 715 00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:09,020 S2: videos with new bed, music and app instructions. Hey, man. 716 00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:09,980 S3: I'm here to help. 717 00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:10,500 S5: She's here to. 718 00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:16,140 S2: Help. She's the DIY, kiddo. Uh, we got someone else 719 00:38:16,140 --> 00:38:22,980 S2: from Puerto Rico coming in 75. Clear. Sunny day. Enjoy. Enjoy. 720 00:38:23,020 --> 00:38:26,660 S2: That's awesome. Somebody said I'm with blaze. I love the snow. 721 00:38:26,940 --> 00:38:30,180 S2: I'll tell blaze. I'll tell him today for sure. 722 00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:30,660 S5: He's. 723 00:38:30,660 --> 00:38:34,020 S3: He's loving it sometimes. Right. But not the cold. 724 00:38:34,219 --> 00:38:38,580 S2: Yeah. For sure. A little bit too cold for him here. Oh, 725 00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:41,580 S2: I'm looking at this. This is cool. Um, let's bring 726 00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:43,460 S2: in this caller. Tell him we want to bring him 727 00:38:43,460 --> 00:38:44,620 S2: on air here, young Thunder. 728 00:38:44,660 --> 00:38:46,460 S4: All right. I'm letting him know now. 729 00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:49,820 S2: Yeah, and we got Toronto, Canada coming in at 11 730 00:38:49,820 --> 00:38:53,219 S2: degrees outside the continental United States. So sure enough, listening 731 00:38:53,219 --> 00:38:56,080 S2: on the app or online, that's pretty cool. All right, 732 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,759 S2: let's get that caller in here. Give a shout out. 733 00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,600 S4: You got it. Hang tight. 734 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,080 S2: Who do we have here? 735 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:01,960 S4: Hold on. There we go. 736 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,000 S2: There we go. Uh, Carol, are you calling from Poland 737 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,759 S2: this morning? Hello, Carol. 738 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:08,640 S14: Oh, hello. 739 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,640 S2: Hello, hello. 740 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:10,320 S14: I am. 741 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,520 S2: Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. 742 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:17,200 S14: No, I'm. I live near Krakow, Poland. And here it's 743 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,919 S14: nine degrees Celsius in Fahrenheit. That would be the upper 40s. 744 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,040 S2: You know, I'm blown away by the degrees there, but 745 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,000 S2: I'm more blown away by the fact that you're in Poland. 746 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,120 S2: Are you on the app or on the internet? Or. 747 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,719 S2: How are you listening to us, Carol? 748 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,840 S14: Well, I have an app on my phone. 749 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,080 S2: Oh, Carol. Way to go. 750 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,600 S14: I listen almost, I listen almost every day. So thank 751 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,360 S14: you very much. 752 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:43,600 S5: Carol. Carol. 753 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,960 S3: Carol, I'm curious, how did you first get connected with 754 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,680 S3: Moody Radio? Are you originally from the States? 755 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,960 S14: When I was still okay. I'm an American, but I 756 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,899 S14: lived in Poland for 45 years. I live. I mean, 757 00:39:53,940 --> 00:39:56,739 S14: I work with Campus Crusade for Christ here. But when 758 00:39:56,739 --> 00:40:00,420 S14: I was, you know, at home in South Elgin, Illinois, 759 00:40:00,739 --> 00:40:04,020 S14: and we listened to Moody Radio. So I knew Moody 760 00:40:04,020 --> 00:40:06,259 S14: Radio for a long time. And then when I could 761 00:40:06,260 --> 00:40:08,940 S14: get it on my cell phone here, you know, I 762 00:40:08,940 --> 00:40:12,660 S14: was like, yay! So. Yes. So, like, now here, it's 763 00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:16,060 S14: past 130 in the afternoon. But so and you guys 764 00:40:16,060 --> 00:40:19,180 S14: have morning. So when I'm doing things in the kitchen 765 00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:22,180 S14: or around the house, I listen to Carl and crew. 766 00:40:22,260 --> 00:40:23,100 S4: Oh that's. 767 00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:23,500 S14: Awesome. 768 00:40:23,940 --> 00:40:26,820 S5: Okay. Wow. Carol for Boland. 769 00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:29,700 S2: Guess what? We're guess what we're gonna do. Carol. 770 00:40:30,860 --> 00:40:32,180 S4: What are we gonna do, Carl? 771 00:40:32,420 --> 00:40:33,100 S5: Let me guess. 772 00:40:33,140 --> 00:40:34,420 S2: You know what we're gonna do? 773 00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:34,940 S4: Oh, yeah. 774 00:40:34,980 --> 00:40:37,180 S2: I'm sending her a Carl and crew prize. 775 00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:38,779 S5: All the way to. 776 00:40:38,820 --> 00:40:42,700 S2: Poland. Hang on. Should be there by March. Okay, Carol. 777 00:40:42,860 --> 00:40:45,500 S14: Carl, I can tell you I am half Swedish. My 778 00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:46,780 S14: mother is all Swedish. 779 00:40:47,380 --> 00:40:48,180 S2: Irania. 780 00:40:49,580 --> 00:40:50,420 S5: Oh, Carol. 781 00:40:50,420 --> 00:40:53,049 S14: I don't speak Polish. my mam, but my grandmother did. 782 00:40:53,090 --> 00:40:56,170 S14: Hers and my mom's siblings. Yeah, they spoke Swedish, but 783 00:40:56,650 --> 00:40:58,489 S14: I know Taxonomica and that's about it. 784 00:40:59,930 --> 00:41:01,130 S2: That's good. Yeah. 785 00:41:01,170 --> 00:41:03,730 S14: Northern Minnesota. So they like all their talking? 786 00:41:03,770 --> 00:41:04,890 S5: Yeah, yeah. 787 00:41:05,290 --> 00:41:08,770 S2: All right. Carol from Poland. Give her a hand, everybody. 788 00:41:08,810 --> 00:41:10,890 S5: Come on. Absolutely. Wow. 789 00:41:11,010 --> 00:41:11,690 S3: That's so fun. 790 00:41:11,730 --> 00:41:13,210 S4: We love being your afternoon show. 791 00:41:13,250 --> 00:41:13,850 S5: Stay. 792 00:41:14,570 --> 00:41:16,330 S2: Stay on the orange. Carol. We're going to get a 793 00:41:16,330 --> 00:41:19,250 S2: Carl and crew prize pack out to you. Okay, that 794 00:41:19,250 --> 00:41:21,610 S2: just proves the power of the app right there. 795 00:41:21,650 --> 00:41:25,530 S3: That was like a walking advertisement for the app. Wow. 796 00:41:26,489 --> 00:41:27,570 S3: Take us with you. 797 00:41:27,610 --> 00:41:30,850 S2: Yeah. Take us with you wherever you go. Text app. 798 00:41:30,969 --> 00:41:37,330 S2: App app to 800 555 7898. Real simple. Getting a 799 00:41:37,330 --> 00:41:40,450 S2: prize pack out for Carol. Gotta load it up. Get 800 00:41:40,450 --> 00:41:43,009 S2: it on a plane or rail. On a ship or 801 00:41:43,010 --> 00:41:46,610 S2: on a plane? Something. Somehow we're going to get it there. 802 00:41:46,890 --> 00:41:48,730 S2: Be there by March. Right. Young Thunder? 803 00:41:49,050 --> 00:41:50,290 S4: Uh, I sure hope so.