WEBVTT - Hour 1: Confusing Scriptures 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:13.280 When life gets tough, it's hard to receive any encouragement. 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:17.520 How can how can we keep hearing from God even 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.279 in tough times? Stay with me. We'll talk about that 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:24.040 in just a moment. Hello, friends. Welcome to Open Line, 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:28.200 Moody Radio's Bible study across America. My name is Michael Wright. 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.000 I'm the academic dean and professor of Jewish studies and 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.560 Bible at Moody Bible Institute. I'm so grateful to be 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.920 joining you around the radio kitchen table. And we're talking 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:43.080 about your questions about the Bible, God, and the spiritual life. 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:45.440 If you have a question and you'd like to call 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:52.879 the phone number, here is (877) 548-3675. 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Open your Bible. We're about 0:01:47.670 --> 0:01:52.310 to study the scriptures together. I have a friend who 0:01:52.310 --> 0:01:57.150 recently lost a job. It was sudden. It was unexpected. 0:01:59.220 --> 0:02:03.620 And there is a great deal of anger and bitterness 0:02:03.620 --> 0:02:07.300 and hurt that came about as a result. And it 0:02:07.300 --> 0:02:14.260 wasn't just anger at his former employer, but angry at God. 0:02:14.260 --> 0:02:19.660 How could God allow this to happen? And as a result? 0:02:22.100 --> 0:02:26.419 There is. It almost became a bitterness in his heart 0:02:26.419 --> 0:02:31.579 against the Lord. Sometimes God wants to give us encouragement. 0:02:31.740 --> 0:02:35.740 He wants us to be lifted up. Even in tough times. 0:02:35.740 --> 0:02:37.740 It doesn't matter if it's loss of a job. It 0:02:37.740 --> 0:02:42.260 doesn't matter if it's maybe even a difficulty with a 0:02:42.260 --> 0:02:48.619 relationship or an illness or whatever it is that you 0:02:48.620 --> 0:02:53.700 feel or I feel might be oppressing us. How do 0:02:53.700 --> 0:02:55.940 we get encouragement from God? I was thinking about this 0:02:55.940 --> 0:02:58.210 the other day. I've been reading through the book of Exodus, 0:02:58.210 --> 0:03:02.090 and I came to Exodus chapter six, and it's where 0:03:02.130 --> 0:03:07.130 God promises because he heard the outcry of of the 0:03:07.130 --> 0:03:11.530 Israelite slaves in Egypt, and he promises that he's going 0:03:11.530 --> 0:03:14.850 to send Moses, and he wants Moses to encourage the 0:03:14.850 --> 0:03:19.690 people because they were slaves and they were oppressed, and 0:03:19.730 --> 0:03:24.730 they were facing such difficulties. And God said through Moses, 0:03:24.730 --> 0:03:27.690 tell the Israelites, I am the Lord, and I will 0:03:27.690 --> 0:03:31.890 deliver you from the forced labor labor of the Egyptians. 0:03:32.169 --> 0:03:35.810 This is Exodus six six and following and free you 0:03:35.970 --> 0:03:39.010 from slavery to them I will redeem you with an 0:03:39.010 --> 0:03:42.890 outstretched arm and great acts of judgment. I will take 0:03:42.890 --> 0:03:45.290 you as my people, and I will be your God. 0:03:45.570 --> 0:03:47.290 You will know that I am the Lord your God, 0:03:47.290 --> 0:03:50.170 who delivered you from the forced labor of the Egyptians. 0:03:50.570 --> 0:03:53.170 I will bring you into the land that I swore 0:03:53.170 --> 0:03:56.200 to give to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and I will 0:03:56.200 --> 0:04:00.040 give it to you as a possession. I am the Lord. 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:05.280 God gave a great encouraging message to a hard pressed 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:10.120 people facing a tough time. And I want to focus 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:15.160 on verse nine. This is what struck me. Moses told 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:19.560 this to the Israelites, but they did not listen to 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:26.599 him because of their broken spirit and hard labor. That 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:31.800 just shook me. God had the most encouraging, uplifting, most 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:37.120 positive message for them, and they couldn't listen because of 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:43.320 their broken spirit, because of their suffering, because of how 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:48.600 tough times were. I was really struck by how true 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:52.640 that is in our lives. How do we make ourselves 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.870 open to God Even when we feel broken down in situation, 0:04:56.870 --> 0:05:00.230 how do we stay open to the encouragement of the 0:05:00.230 --> 0:05:03.630 Lord when we're broken? How do we avoid the mistake 0:05:03.910 --> 0:05:08.270 that the Israelites made when they couldn't hear the encouraging 0:05:08.270 --> 0:05:11.030 message from Moses? Well, I thought about that a good bit, 0:05:11.270 --> 0:05:13.070 and I thought back to a time in my life 0:05:13.070 --> 0:05:16.670 it was about 25 or 30 years ago. I went 0:05:16.670 --> 0:05:19.630 through the toughest time in ministry that I'd ever faced, 0:05:19.910 --> 0:05:27.270 and I was so unbelievably discouraged. And I wanted to 0:05:27.310 --> 0:05:29.830 hear from the Lord, and I didn't feel like I 0:05:29.830 --> 0:05:34.190 was receiving any encouragement. And so I thought back, how 0:05:34.350 --> 0:05:37.909 did I keep it together in that tough time when 0:05:37.910 --> 0:05:39.830 I wanted to throw it all out? How did I 0:05:39.830 --> 0:05:44.670 stay open even when I felt broken? And as I 0:05:44.710 --> 0:05:48.510 contemplated that experience from all those years ago, I came 0:05:48.510 --> 0:05:50.590 up with three principles I think we should all live 0:05:50.630 --> 0:05:54.539 by when we're going through tough times. And here they are. 0:05:55.420 --> 0:06:00.460 First of all, focus on the Word of God that 0:06:00.460 --> 0:06:06.060 we can't stop being in the word. When life gets tough, 0:06:06.060 --> 0:06:09.020 we have to stay in the Word of God. It's 0:06:09.020 --> 0:06:12.500 essential that we read the word. Study the word, hear 0:06:12.500 --> 0:06:15.980 the word. Uh, we need to receive the Word of 0:06:15.980 --> 0:06:19.500 God because it reveals God's character, what he's really like. 0:06:19.500 --> 0:06:23.620 It reminds us of the truths of of God's Word 0:06:23.620 --> 0:06:26.059 and the that God is going to work all things 0:06:26.060 --> 0:06:29.980 together for good. We need to be in the word 0:06:29.980 --> 0:06:32.980 when we're going through tough times. Instead of saying, I 0:06:33.020 --> 0:06:36.140 am so fed up with what God has to say, 0:06:36.140 --> 0:06:43.260 I'm going to. Throw this out. And so, uh, John 1717, 0:06:43.300 --> 0:06:47.860 the Lord Jesus said, sanctify them in the truth of 0:06:47.860 --> 0:06:54.810 his disciples, of his followers. Your word is truth. Whenever 0:06:54.810 --> 0:06:59.610 life is going hard, tough or struggling, we have to 0:06:59.730 --> 0:07:03.090 be reminded constantly of what is actually true. So we 0:07:03.089 --> 0:07:06.130 have to stay in the Word of God. Secondly, we 0:07:06.130 --> 0:07:09.929 have to stay faithful no matter what. Sometimes we use 0:07:09.930 --> 0:07:13.290 hard times as an excuse to say, oh, I've been 0:07:13.290 --> 0:07:16.890 trying to be so faithful and obedient to the Lord, 0:07:18.370 --> 0:07:24.330 but you know, I'm being persecuted. I'm facing tough times. What? 0:07:24.370 --> 0:07:29.210 He's abandoned me. I'll just abandon him. No. It's better 0:07:29.410 --> 0:07:34.410 for us to be obedient in tough times rather than 0:07:34.730 --> 0:07:38.050 use it as an excuse for disobedience. I was taken 0:07:38.330 --> 0:07:43.530 by the concept in the book of First Peter. In 0:07:43.570 --> 0:07:48.730 First Peter it says that what credit is there if 0:07:48.770 --> 0:07:52.160 you sin and are punished and you endure it if 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:57.480 you deserve it. That's he says, if you deserve it, 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:01.200 what good is it if you do? If you do that, 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:06.360 it is better, according to first Peter, to be obedient 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:11.360 to God. Uh, it's better to suffer for doing good 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.280 if that should be God's will than for doing evil. 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:21.480 First Peter 317. It's so important that we stay faithful 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:25.480 and obedient even when life is hard. Instead of saying, yeah, well, 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.840 life is hard and that's that's natural for when we're 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.280 being disobedient to God. No, we are going to stay 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:35.120 faithful that that is what brings honor to God, that 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.800 we're going to stay faithful no matter how hard life gets. 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.040 And so first, if we want to be open when 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.040 life is going tough, well, first of all, we need 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.870 to stay in the word. Secondly, we have to stay obedient, obedience. 0:08:47.870 --> 0:08:51.709 Stay faithful. And the third lesson I learned was we 0:08:51.710 --> 0:08:56.150 need to receive the encouragement of God's faithful people. In 0:08:56.150 --> 0:08:59.709 Hebrews 1025, it tells us not to forsake the assembling 0:08:59.710 --> 0:09:03.630 of ourselves together, as is the habit of some. Because 0:09:03.630 --> 0:09:06.230 they were facing persecution, they were facing tough times, and 0:09:06.230 --> 0:09:10.390 they were abandoning their community. He says. It's important that 0:09:10.390 --> 0:09:15.550 we not forsake the assembling of ourselves together, as is 0:09:15.550 --> 0:09:20.309 the habit of some, that we might receive encouragement and encouragement. 0:09:20.309 --> 0:09:25.390 That's the point of Hebrews 1025. It's when we're really 0:09:26.230 --> 0:09:29.750 broken down and struggling. We need to be in community 0:09:29.750 --> 0:09:33.390 because it is God's people that will bring us hope 0:09:33.950 --> 0:09:39.550 and encouragement and strengthening. We need to be in our community. 0:09:39.550 --> 0:09:42.270 I look back at that tough time in my life 0:09:42.870 --> 0:09:48.100 and it was my congregation, my community of of faithful 0:09:48.100 --> 0:09:51.260 followers of Jesus who knew the tough time I was 0:09:51.260 --> 0:09:54.260 going through and kept bringing me encouragement. It was my pastor. 0:09:54.260 --> 0:09:57.260 It was my friends. It was what I needed to 0:09:57.300 --> 0:10:00.819 hear because they were the ones that God was using 0:10:00.820 --> 0:10:04.740 to bring me encouragement. So how do we stay open 0:10:05.059 --> 0:10:10.540 when we're broken? Most important, we have to be in 0:10:10.540 --> 0:10:17.140 the word. Stay faithful and stay in our community. Be 0:10:17.140 --> 0:10:20.380 faithful in our community. And that's what God will bring 0:10:20.380 --> 0:10:24.980 us through the tough time and finally lift us up. 0:10:32.100 --> 0:10:34.260 I hope that's an encouragement to you. If you're going 0:10:34.260 --> 0:10:37.020 through a tough time. We're going to go to the 0:10:37.020 --> 0:10:40.619 phones right now. We're going to talk to Dan in Tipton, Indiana, 0:10:40.620 --> 0:10:43.780 listening on WGN. Welcome to Open Line, Dan. How can 0:10:43.780 --> 0:10:44.740 I help you today? 0:10:45.330 --> 0:10:48.410 Hi. Good morning Michael. We're doing a summer series on 0:10:48.450 --> 0:10:54.010 the canonical structure of the Psalter, using your team's The 0:10:54.010 --> 0:10:58.050 Moody Handbook of Messianic Prophecy, which we just love. And 0:10:58.050 --> 0:11:02.569 speaking of one two Samuel, chapter 23, verse one and two. 0:11:02.610 --> 0:11:07.290 David's favorite thing was to write about Messiah. We are 0:11:07.330 --> 0:11:10.650 told in the book. And yet there was a little 0:11:10.650 --> 0:11:16.610 change to a word that went, rendered the word concerning it, 0:11:16.650 --> 0:11:21.209 rendered it on high. And that's just a fascinating thing. 0:11:21.210 --> 0:11:22.450 And I don't know if you want to talk about that, 0:11:22.450 --> 0:11:24.250 but what I'm curious about is, is there a way 0:11:24.250 --> 0:11:28.290 for me to find the original Septuagint version or whatnot 0:11:28.290 --> 0:11:32.250 that shows it as concerning, as opposed because everything that 0:11:32.250 --> 0:11:34.330 I read shows it as on high? 0:11:35.929 --> 0:11:38.330 Everything you read in the Septuagint? 0:11:39.410 --> 0:11:43.410 No. Every every translation of scripture that I seem to get, 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.120 whether it's on the internet. Okay. My Bibles at home. 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.360 Okay, let me explain. For those of you playing at home, 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.000 let's let's see if I can explain this in second 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:56.840 Samuel 23. Uh, it does indeed read in the Hebrew 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:03.040 Bible as, uh, on high, and I'll read you the verse. 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.719 It says the oracle of David, son of Jesse, the 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:10.800 oracle of the man raised up on high. There's what 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:15.040 it says. Uh, the one anointed by the God of Jacob. 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.800 And my version says the favorite singer of Israel. But 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:21.240 it should be the delightful, the delight of the songs 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:27.559 of Israel. That's a literal translation. And now the problem is, 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:32.760 is that the word in Hebrew that's translated on high 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:39.000 is the word al. And in English we would say, 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:45.949 but in Hebrew There's a vowel that tells us it 0:12:45.950 --> 0:12:49.350 means on high. Now, in Hebrew, the vowels weren't added 0:12:49.350 --> 0:12:53.950 into the Hebrew Bible until somewhere by the 10th century A.D.. 0:12:54.350 --> 0:12:58.990 Most people don't realize that that the vowels, the little 0:12:59.150 --> 0:13:02.070 lines and dots and stuff that are vowels in Hebrew, 0:13:02.470 --> 0:13:05.189 they weren't in the original Hebrew text of the Bible. 0:13:05.309 --> 0:13:12.030 They were put in by rabbinic experts at texting at 0:13:12.070 --> 0:13:15.950 the text of Scripture. They were called the masoretes. They 0:13:15.950 --> 0:13:18.910 put them in between the eighth and 10th century A.D. 0:13:19.230 --> 0:13:25.190 that's how old they were. And the Septuagint actually reads 0:13:25.190 --> 0:13:30.309 it not on high, but rather with the. They translated 0:13:30.309 --> 0:13:32.309 the word epi. All they, they read it with a 0:13:32.309 --> 0:13:35.910 different vowel, not a different letter. They understood a different 0:13:35.910 --> 0:13:38.870 vowel to be under it. And they translated it with 0:13:38.870 --> 0:13:43.540 the Greek word epi, which means concerning. So the earliest 0:13:43.540 --> 0:13:49.579 version we have of that, that passage sees it as concerning. 0:13:49.580 --> 0:13:52.100 And if we read it this way, it says the 0:13:52.100 --> 0:13:55.180 oracle of David, the son of Jesse, the declaration or 0:13:55.220 --> 0:14:00.940 oracle of the man raised up concerning the Anointed one, 0:14:00.940 --> 0:14:04.660 or the Messiah of the God of Jacob, the delightful, 0:14:04.860 --> 0:14:08.940 one of the songs of Israel. David says that he 0:14:08.940 --> 0:14:13.100 is writing about his favorite subject, the delightful one of 0:14:13.100 --> 0:14:16.380 the songs of Israel, who concerning the Messiah, the anointed 0:14:16.380 --> 0:14:19.180 one of the God of Jacob. Now, that may seem 0:14:19.180 --> 0:14:22.900 a little complicated, but that's, uh, in the Moody Handbook 0:14:22.900 --> 0:14:25.900 of Messianic Prophecy. And if you read it, Dan, you 0:14:25.900 --> 0:14:28.300 can see the explanation for it. And the best way 0:14:28.300 --> 0:14:31.220 to see it is just read a Greek Septuagint Greek 0:14:31.260 --> 0:14:34.980 translation from the second century BC, and you'll see that 0:14:34.980 --> 0:14:39.370 the word there is epi concerning. Perfect. Okay. 0:14:40.170 --> 0:14:42.770 That's awesome. Thank you so much for your teaching, Michael. 0:14:42.810 --> 0:14:43.490 We love you. 0:14:44.170 --> 0:14:48.290 Yeah. Thank you, I appreciate it. Thanks for calling, Dan. 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If you have a question about the 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:22.160 spiritual life, a question about some truth about God, I'll 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.320 do my best to answer it. We're going to talk 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:29.080 with Michael in North Carolina right now listening on 104.3. 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.920 Welcome to Open Line. Michael. How can I help you today? 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:33.800 Uh. 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.280 Yes. Michael, can you hear me? Okay. 0:16:36.830 --> 0:16:37.830 Yeah. You sound great. 0:16:38.670 --> 0:16:41.950 Okay, good. You do too. Um, I have a question. Um, 0:16:42.390 --> 0:16:47.110 I was studying Psalms 132, and, uh, I was looking 0:16:47.110 --> 0:16:50.830 at the promise that God made David that his descendants 0:16:50.830 --> 0:16:54.950 would always sit on the throne. Um, and, uh, I 0:16:54.950 --> 0:16:57.190 was wondering. And it pointed. Also, I was looking at 0:16:57.190 --> 0:17:02.470 theological theme of that, that particular chapter. And, um, I 0:17:02.470 --> 0:17:05.750 see that God's covenant with David, um, I think is 0:17:05.750 --> 0:17:08.350 pretty sure even through the millennial reign. I was just 0:17:08.350 --> 0:17:10.750 wondering when Christ sits on the throne during the millennial 0:17:10.750 --> 0:17:14.990 reign and David's helped Co-ruling will he have a throne 0:17:14.990 --> 0:17:18.990 to sit on also? Or am I? I don't think 0:17:18.990 --> 0:17:20.990 the Bible say, what do. 0:17:20.990 --> 0:17:23.550 You think? Bible doesn't say. But here's what I would say. 0:17:23.830 --> 0:17:29.909 You're thinking of verses like in Ezekiel and, uh, places 0:17:29.910 --> 0:17:33.149 like that where it speaks Hosea. Here's a verse that 0:17:33.150 --> 0:17:39.100 I'm thinking of. Uh, it says that Israel is Hosea 0:17:39.100 --> 0:17:42.619 three four. The Israelites must live many days without king 0:17:42.619 --> 0:17:48.580 or prince, without sacrifice or sacred pillar, and without ephod 0:17:48.580 --> 0:17:52.340 or household idols. And that's pretty much the period of 0:17:52.340 --> 0:17:55.740 time now that we're in. For many days, Israel hasn't 0:17:55.740 --> 0:18:00.260 had a king. Uh, no sacrificial system, no temple, no 0:18:00.340 --> 0:18:05.900 priesthood operating, uh, and no idolatry. But then it says afterward. 0:18:05.900 --> 0:18:07.220 And that will be, I think, at the end of 0:18:07.220 --> 0:18:10.180 the tribulation period, the people of Israel will return and 0:18:10.180 --> 0:18:14.979 seek the Lord their God, and David their king, and 0:18:14.980 --> 0:18:18.060 they will come with or to the Lord and to 0:18:18.100 --> 0:18:21.580 his goodness in the last days. And so that's the 0:18:21.580 --> 0:18:24.140 verse you're thinking of, where it says, David, I don't 0:18:24.140 --> 0:18:27.020 believe it means literal. David. I don't think David will 0:18:27.020 --> 0:18:31.420 be co-regent in the Millennial Kingdom. I think that this 0:18:31.420 --> 0:18:34.730 is saying David, their king, meaning the Son of David, 0:18:34.730 --> 0:18:37.850 the greater David, the one that was promised to have 0:18:37.850 --> 0:18:41.129 an eternal house, kingdom and throne. The descendant of David, 0:18:41.130 --> 0:18:44.570 and is just using David as the name of the father. 0:18:44.609 --> 0:18:49.290 The the starter of that household, that dynasty. But it's 0:18:49.290 --> 0:18:51.850 not referring to David. It's talking about the Lord Jesus, 0:18:51.850 --> 0:18:52.889 the Son of David. 0:18:52.930 --> 0:18:56.570 And they did refer Jesus being the Son of David, right? 0:18:56.570 --> 0:18:59.210 That's right. So that's that sort of makes sense. But 0:18:59.210 --> 0:19:01.330 that was just I hope it wasn't a stupid question. 0:19:01.330 --> 0:19:01.930 It just. 0:19:01.970 --> 0:19:03.970 No, no, it's a great question. Because why does it 0:19:03.970 --> 0:19:07.850 say David. Well, that's they're using David as the, the king. 0:19:07.850 --> 0:19:10.050 And by the way, every time I think this is 0:19:10.090 --> 0:19:12.850 a cool thing, I was just talking with a couple 0:19:12.890 --> 0:19:18.610 of dear friends, uh, in Israel and recently two Jewish people, 0:19:18.609 --> 0:19:20.930 instead of waiting for the end of days, sought David, 0:19:20.970 --> 0:19:23.810 their king, and the Lord their God. And they came 0:19:23.810 --> 0:19:27.330 with all to the Lord just recently. You don't. Only 0:19:27.369 --> 0:19:29.770 the nation will do that at the end of days, 0:19:29.770 --> 0:19:33.680 but individually, Jewish people do that all the time. So. 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:37.600 But when in saying seeking David their king, it's talking 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.639 about the Son of David, the greater son of David. Okay. 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.000 Yeah. And one of the things I found was this 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.720 is while David is expected to have a prominent role, 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.280 the Scripture doesn't explicitly state that he will share a 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.000 throne with Jesus. So that makes very much sense, doesn't it? 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.080 Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, I don't know what kind 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.720 of role he'll have. Uh, the reason people think he'll 0:19:57.720 --> 0:19:59.760 have a prominent role are those verses where it talks 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.680 about David ruling over the people, but it's not. Again, 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:04.640 in every one of those passages, I believe it's not 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:08.000 talking about literal, David. It's talking about the literal Son 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.440 of David, the Messiah. So okay. 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.879 Thank you. Thanks, Michael. Appreciate it. I've just heard you 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:15.679 a couple times on the radio, and I love the program. 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:16.560 Thank you very much. 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:20.080 Thank you so much, I appreciate it. Uh, we're going 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:25.600 to talk with Tony, uh, in Ketchikan, Alaska, on Abc-Tv. 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:29.200 I guess in Alaska, they have five letters in their stations. 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:31.470 Welcome to open line, Tony. How can I help you today? 0:20:31.830 --> 0:20:35.030 Yes. Good morning doctor. I have a question and a comment, 0:20:35.030 --> 0:20:38.510 if you please. And I just to say that I 0:20:38.550 --> 0:20:42.270 finally became a kitchen table coffee partner, and I. 0:20:42.310 --> 0:20:43.190 Oh. Thank you. 0:20:44.270 --> 0:20:47.629 Oh, no. Thank you sir. And they enjoy the the 0:20:47.670 --> 0:20:51.190 gift that they send me. It's a beautiful cup of coffee. Uh. 0:20:51.190 --> 0:20:55.030 Coffee cup. Great. I'm glad. You know, we drink a 0:20:55.030 --> 0:20:58.709 lot of coffee or tea. I love for tea. Also, uh, 0:20:58.710 --> 0:21:01.429 here on Open Line. Hey, uh, how can I help you? 0:21:01.470 --> 0:21:02.429 What's your question? 0:21:02.990 --> 0:21:08.350 I the question is regarding revelation 13 one three, verse 0:21:08.350 --> 0:21:12.950 16 and the 14th verse 11, and the best way 0:21:12.950 --> 0:21:15.270 I can describe it to you, my comment or my 0:21:15.630 --> 0:21:19.109 question is that I imagine the Cowboys, when they round 0:21:19.109 --> 0:21:21.909 up the cows and to brand them so the cows 0:21:22.190 --> 0:21:25.189 trying to run away, and the cowboys, they circle the 0:21:25.190 --> 0:21:27.629 cow and then they rope and and they put them 0:21:27.630 --> 0:21:30.260 on the ground by force and then they brand it. 0:21:30.500 --> 0:21:33.860 So when at the day of judgment, how God is 0:21:33.859 --> 0:21:36.780 going to judge me or anyone with a mark of 0:21:36.780 --> 0:21:40.340 the beast because we got the mark by sheer force. 0:21:40.380 --> 0:21:43.139 Are we going to be God to send us into hell? 0:21:43.340 --> 0:21:44.939 Or how is it going to judge us? 0:21:45.740 --> 0:21:47.859 Well, first of all, let me just say I don't 0:21:47.859 --> 0:21:52.540 believe that you or I will be there. I think 0:21:52.580 --> 0:21:55.620 the the rapture, the Lord will descend with a shout 0:21:55.660 --> 0:21:58.820 and snatch us away. The body of the Messiah. Away 0:21:58.820 --> 0:22:01.860 before this ever happens. And so I don't think it's 0:22:01.859 --> 0:22:04.140 possible for you to receive the mark of the beast 0:22:04.460 --> 0:22:08.260 that's right up front. But even though there will be 0:22:08.300 --> 0:22:11.300 and there will be believers in the tribulation period, if 0:22:11.300 --> 0:22:16.660 you read revelation 1316, it says that he requires everyone, 0:22:16.660 --> 0:22:18.580 small and great, rich and poor, free and slave to 0:22:18.619 --> 0:22:21.379 be given a mark on his right hand or on 0:22:21.380 --> 0:22:23.780 his forehead so that no one can buy or sell 0:22:23.940 --> 0:22:26.340 unless he has the mark, the beast's name, or the 0:22:26.340 --> 0:22:29.650 number of his name. So it's something that he requires 0:22:29.650 --> 0:22:34.130 for economic participation. It's not something that they will round 0:22:34.130 --> 0:22:36.690 people up and do to them. There will always be 0:22:36.690 --> 0:22:41.570 an element of choice. Uh, sort of. I yeah, I 0:22:41.690 --> 0:22:44.450 hate to say this, but there are some governments that 0:22:44.450 --> 0:22:51.970 made the, uh, Covid vaccine required. Uh, and it's not 0:22:51.970 --> 0:22:54.250 like they rounded people up and gave it to them 0:22:54.250 --> 0:22:57.490 against their will, but they were basically said, you can't 0:22:57.490 --> 0:23:00.810 enter this arena. You can't, uh, go to this country, 0:23:00.810 --> 0:23:05.409 you can't do anything unless you are vaccinated. So it 0:23:05.410 --> 0:23:07.649 was a requirement and people could choose, say, well, I'm 0:23:07.650 --> 0:23:09.490 not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. 0:23:09.490 --> 0:23:16.130 That's how it turned out. Uh, so I think that, uh, I, 0:23:16.369 --> 0:23:19.410 I wouldn't, uh, be concerned about it because it's always 0:23:19.410 --> 0:23:21.690 going to be a matter of choice. And also it's 0:23:21.690 --> 0:23:23.810 not going to be an issue for you because you 0:23:23.810 --> 0:23:27.320 and I will be taken away First. Okay, Tony. 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:30.159 I have a comment for you and I believe you 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:32.639 will ask this. You will like this one. What it 0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:35.200 would be. Because with so many questions in the Bible, 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:37.360 what it would be for the open line to be 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:43.720 available 27 7/24 every day available. 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:48.040 I don't know. We'd have to get a lot more 0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:51.359 people to answer the questions, because I'm not up to that, 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.960 but it's available all the time via podcast. You can 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:57.840 go back and listen. You can listen on Moody. The 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:00.880 Moody Radio app, it's available there. In fact, you can 0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:02.480 you can go online. I think it's about a year 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:04.120 and a half of program so you can catch up 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:07.560 right there. Tony. Appreciate the interest and I really appreciate 0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:10.760 you being a kitchen table partner. Uh, in fact, let 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:12.960 me take a minute, folks, and tell you about what 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:15.879 it means that Tony said he's become a kitchen table partner. 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:20.360 Kitchen table partner is someone who is has committed to 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:25.320 give monthly. So Open line can be on the air weekly. 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:28.080 And just as I mentioned in the previous segment, that 0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:34.359 we have a a opportunity for people to give a 0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:36.600 gift of any size. 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It's time 0:25:49.990 --> 0:25:53.669 for the Febc mailbag. So stay with us. We'll be 0:25:53.670 --> 0:26:06.070 right back here online. Welcome back to Open Line. I'm 0:26:06.070 --> 0:26:09.830 Michael Rey Dominik. And so glad that Tricia McMillan is 0:26:09.830 --> 0:26:13.870 joining me right now with the Far Eastern Broadcasting Company mailbag. 0:26:13.910 --> 0:26:17.870 Grateful for Far Eastern Broadcasting Company for partnering with us 0:26:17.869 --> 0:26:22.100 and bringing you the mailbag every week. Febc does wonderful 0:26:22.100 --> 0:26:26.939 ministry among people using media and personal outreach. It's a 0:26:26.940 --> 0:26:32.420 really terrific organization. I hope you'll check out their website. Org. 0:26:32.460 --> 0:26:35.659 It also has a link there to their podcast called 0:26:35.660 --> 0:26:38.780 Until All Have Heard featuring Ed Cannon. Check that out. 0:26:38.780 --> 0:26:41.179 I think you'll really like it. Hey, Tricia, how are 0:26:41.180 --> 0:26:41.580 you doing? 0:26:41.580 --> 0:26:42.859 I'm doing well, thanks. 0:26:43.060 --> 0:26:45.540 Yeah. I'm so glad to see you. It's really fun. 0:26:45.580 --> 0:26:48.580 And I see the mailbags kind of growing. And so 0:26:48.859 --> 0:26:51.220 I think we should try to answer as many as 0:26:51.220 --> 0:26:51.820 we can. 0:26:51.980 --> 0:26:58.020 Hopefully we we try every week. Yeah. Well, our first 0:26:58.020 --> 0:27:01.699 question is actually a combo. We had Amy in Minnesota 0:27:01.700 --> 0:27:06.100 who listens to KFC and Bradley in Pennsylvania, who are 0:27:06.100 --> 0:27:11.379 both asking about how to respond to people being killed 0:27:11.380 --> 0:27:15.620 in Gaza. Um, okay. So I'm going to read. 0:27:16.220 --> 0:27:16.820 Amy ask. 0:27:16.859 --> 0:27:19.580 Amy asked how do we respond to the innocent victims 0:27:19.580 --> 0:27:20.300 in Gaza? 0:27:20.369 --> 0:27:20.850 Okay. 0:27:21.050 --> 0:27:23.970 Bradley's include some numbers. And so I'm going to read 0:27:23.970 --> 0:27:24.930 these numbers. 0:27:25.369 --> 0:27:27.130 Um, start with this whole question. 0:27:27.130 --> 0:27:29.530 Okay. I will read this whole question. How is it 0:27:29.530 --> 0:27:33.570 not a genocide in Gaza when 54,000 Palestinians have been 0:27:33.570 --> 0:27:38.650 killed and counting 70%? Some say 90% of all buildings 0:27:38.650 --> 0:27:42.690 in Gaza have been destroyed or damaged. £140 million of 0:27:42.690 --> 0:27:45.490 bombs have been dropped on Gaza, which is more than London, 0:27:45.530 --> 0:27:48.970 Hamburg and Dresden combined during World War two, and 2 0:27:48.970 --> 0:27:52.130 million people are facing famine. It seems that every day 0:27:52.130 --> 0:27:56.970 reports of IDF forces opening fire on unarmed civilians come. 0:27:57.330 --> 0:28:00.290 How is this not genocide? And why should we support 0:28:00.290 --> 0:28:02.490 the secular state of Israel and assume that they have 0:28:02.490 --> 0:28:03.730 good intentions? 0:28:04.890 --> 0:28:08.170 Wow. Well, that's not just wanting to know how to respond, 0:28:08.170 --> 0:28:12.330 that is, that deserves some response directly to it. I've 0:28:12.330 --> 0:28:14.969 been very open about saying this is not a genocide. 0:28:14.970 --> 0:28:18.490 That's mostly propaganda that you hear. But let's start with 0:28:18.490 --> 0:28:22.880 Amy's question. How do we respond to the innocent victims 0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:25.560 of Gaza? I think we should respond with great concern 0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:29.160 and great care. I think that that's imperative. I think 0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:33.640 Israel has done their best with the innocent victims, the 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.560 civilians in Gaza. Here are some of the things that 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:44.560 they have done. They've created pathways for civilians to go 0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:50.360 to safe areas. They've sent leaflets directing people with maps 0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:56.760 about where to go. They've sent text messages, phone calls, 0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:01.800 directing people. Every time Israel has gone into a given area, 0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:05.040 they have moved people into safe zones. Now, what I 0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:12.000 think is a tragedy here is that typically in war situations, 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:17.120 the neighboring countries will open up the border and allow 0:29:17.310 --> 0:29:20.830 refugees to go there temporarily while the war is going on. 0:29:21.190 --> 0:29:26.030 Egypt has absolutely refused to do that. So that would 0:29:26.030 --> 0:29:28.790 be the most natural thing to set up refugee places, 0:29:28.830 --> 0:29:34.870 refugee camps in the Sinai, just south of Gaza. And 0:29:34.870 --> 0:29:37.790 there all the aid workers could go. It wouldn't be 0:29:37.790 --> 0:29:42.870 an issue. Sadly, Egypt absolutely refuses to do that. They 0:29:42.910 --> 0:29:48.590 don't trust bringing any Gazan civilians into Egyptian sovereignty, but 0:29:48.590 --> 0:29:50.310 that would be the normal way. That's what happened in 0:29:50.310 --> 0:29:53.790 the civil war in Syria. That's what happened in every 0:29:53.790 --> 0:29:56.990 kind of war situation. The civilians are allowed to leave, 0:29:57.230 --> 0:30:01.990 but the the Egyptians won't allow that. But Israel has 0:30:01.990 --> 0:30:06.110 done their best to try to get Gazans out of 0:30:06.110 --> 0:30:09.750 the line of fire. I would say when there are 0:30:09.750 --> 0:30:14.830 civilian casualties, I wouldn't blame Israel. I would blame Hamas. 0:30:15.070 --> 0:30:20.940 That deliberately embeds among civilians and does everything they can 0:30:20.940 --> 0:30:23.780 to keep civilians from leaving, to go to safe zones, 0:30:23.780 --> 0:30:26.380 sometimes even firing upon them if they try to leave, 0:30:26.420 --> 0:30:29.980 to go to the safe zones. So that's what I 0:30:29.980 --> 0:30:34.620 would say about the civilian population of Gaza. Let's take 0:30:34.980 --> 0:30:39.300 Brad's question. How is it not a genocide when 54,000 0:30:39.300 --> 0:30:44.340 Palestinians have been killed and counting? Well, that's the first question. 0:30:44.780 --> 0:30:50.460 54,000 is the figure that we have received from the 0:30:50.500 --> 0:30:56.660 Gaza Health Health Organization. Now, what's crazy about that is 0:30:56.660 --> 0:31:02.700 that's Hamas. So the figure 54,000 is coming from Hamas. 0:31:02.740 --> 0:31:05.580 And you can't trust the numbers of a terrorist organization. 0:31:06.660 --> 0:31:13.380 But let's presume they're accurate. Israel has admitted to us 0:31:14.930 --> 0:31:21.490 That they have killed 24,000 Hamas combatants. That's the result 0:31:21.490 --> 0:31:26.690 of this war. So 24,000 are actual not civilians, not 0:31:27.410 --> 0:31:32.050 women and children, but actual combatants. So that reduces the 0:31:32.050 --> 0:31:37.810 number from 54,000 to 30,000. A recent study came out 0:31:37.810 --> 0:31:41.730 and found that 8000 natural people who died of natural 0:31:41.730 --> 0:31:48.050 causes also were included in that 54,000 number figure. So 0:31:49.250 --> 0:31:53.930 that reduces it from 54 to 20 24,000 leaves 30, 0:31:54.010 --> 0:32:02.730 then take 8000. That's actually 22,000 that are civilian casualties 0:32:02.930 --> 0:32:06.209 if that. The other thing, studies have been done showing 0:32:06.370 --> 0:32:11.930 that the ratio there of 22,000 civilian casualties is probably unlikely, 0:32:11.930 --> 0:32:15.080 but it is. Let's just say what it is. That's 0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:18.670 what it is 22,000. So there's about a 1 to 0:32:18.670 --> 0:32:22.920 1 ratio of collateral damage. I hate that expression because 0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:25.240 those are people. But a 1 to 1 ratio of 0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:32.360 civilian death to, uh, to combatant deaths in close quarters 0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:37.280 urban combat. That is the lowest ratio in any urban 0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:43.520 setting in history. Imagine that the lowest ratio of of 0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:49.760 civilian collateral damage in a close quarter urban combat setting. 0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:54.280 And the reason for it is because Hamas embeds among civilians. 0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:58.760 They do. They consider every civilian casualty a victory for 0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:02.680 Hamas because it hurts Israel's reputation. And so that's why 0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:06.280 they want to have civilian casualties. They celebrate, they glorify 0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.200 civilian casualties, and that's why they don't want people to 0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:14.510 leave those areas where Hamas embeds, which is in mosques, schools, hospitals, 0:33:14.510 --> 0:33:20.190 places like that. John Spencer, who teaches at West Point 0:33:20.670 --> 0:33:23.710 in the area of close quarters urban Combat, has said 0:33:23.710 --> 0:33:28.350 that this is the lowest combatant civilian to combatant ratio 0:33:28.350 --> 0:33:32.070 in any war in history. In the United States, when 0:33:32.070 --> 0:33:37.990 we fought in Fallujah and places like that are in Afghanistan, 0:33:37.990 --> 0:33:42.430 in in Iraq, are civilian when we fought ISIS are 0:33:42.430 --> 0:33:46.750 civilian to combatant ratio was six civilians to every one 0:33:46.750 --> 0:33:52.150 combatant in the United States. So that's quite a different number. 0:33:52.150 --> 0:33:56.430 But mostly I would say Hamas responsible. Hamas started the war. 0:33:57.030 --> 0:34:03.550 They murdered 1200 Israelis and also foreigners. They took 251 0:34:03.550 --> 0:34:07.870 people hostage. They broke a ceasefire that was existing. They 0:34:07.870 --> 0:34:12.500 embed among the civilian population. They tunnel under homes, hospitals, schools. 0:34:12.500 --> 0:34:17.380 They consider every civilian death a success that helps them. 0:34:17.460 --> 0:34:24.660 So let's recognize that Hamas is responsible. Now, it's not 0:34:24.700 --> 0:34:28.459 a it's not. Anyone looking at those numbers objectively would 0:34:28.460 --> 0:34:31.900 know this is not a genocide. If Israel intended to 0:34:31.900 --> 0:34:34.940 have a genocide, then think about it. There would be 0:34:34.940 --> 0:34:39.259 no one left in Gaza. They Israel certainly has the 0:34:39.260 --> 0:34:43.740 firepower to carpet bomb, which they haven't done. Now, Bradley 0:34:43.739 --> 0:34:48.380 has looked at these numbers here. £140 million of bombs 0:34:48.380 --> 0:34:52.939 have been dropped on Gaza more than London, Hamburg, Dresden. 0:34:53.260 --> 0:34:56.379 I don't think those numbers are accurate, according to John Spencer. 0:34:57.900 --> 0:35:03.220 And so I would say they're not accurate. However, that 0:35:03.460 --> 0:35:07.219 I would say this the difference between Dresden, Hamburg and 0:35:07.219 --> 0:35:16.370 London Is there were no tunnel system underground to. Protect 0:35:16.370 --> 0:35:20.049 the terrorists. Hamas has built what they call the subway. 0:35:20.330 --> 0:35:25.529 It's miles and miles of of underground tunnels, not used 0:35:25.530 --> 0:35:29.130 to protect the people, but to protect the terrorists and 0:35:29.130 --> 0:35:33.089 to hide the hostages. And that is why there needs 0:35:33.090 --> 0:35:36.610 to be heavy bombardment to take care of those tunnels. 0:35:36.610 --> 0:35:39.410 Although Israel does quite a bit in going through the 0:35:39.410 --> 0:35:44.770 tunnels with dogs, with soldiers to try to avoid civilian 0:35:44.770 --> 0:35:50.770 deaths and destruction. Now it says here in this question, 0:35:50.770 --> 0:35:54.049 I'm looking at it carefully. Uh, 2 million people are 0:35:54.050 --> 0:35:58.009 facing famine. They are absolutely not facing famine. That's untrue. 0:35:58.050 --> 0:36:05.009 Israel has allowed much of the foods to come into Gaza, 0:36:05.050 --> 0:36:09.280 much more than Hamas even wanted. Hamas steals it and 0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:13.880 then puts it into their warehouses, where they charge exorbitant 0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:23.560 prices to civilians and then use that to fund their terrorism. So, no, 0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:27.879 it's interesting when when the United States and Israel formed 0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:32.919 this group, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, the CHF, and they 0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:39.640 started giving food away to people. Well, tragically, uh, Hamas 0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:42.160 began to fire upon civilians who were trying to get 0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:45.279 food for bad people to get food from there. And 0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:49.080 then they began to open their warehouses and start giving 0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:52.279 food because they were holding food back from the Gaza 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:57.919 civilian population. Uh, so there isn't a famine. It's just 0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:04.200 not true. Uh, it's it's again propaganda. Um, and so 0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:08.750 when I look at this, it says they're facing famine. 0:37:08.750 --> 0:37:11.310 No they're not. And then it says they opened fire 0:37:11.310 --> 0:37:14.910 on unarmed civilians. That's a report that Hamas gave that 0:37:14.910 --> 0:37:17.430 Israel was doing it, when in fact Hamas is firing 0:37:17.430 --> 0:37:20.989 on civilians trying to get aid. And the newspapers that 0:37:20.989 --> 0:37:26.910 printed those stories about Israel firing on civilians, unarmed civilians 0:37:26.910 --> 0:37:31.229 going for food, had to retract those stories because they 0:37:31.230 --> 0:37:36.750 just weren't true. Here's my point. We, as followers of Jesus, 0:37:36.750 --> 0:37:38.950 need to remember that no lie is of the truth. 0:37:39.070 --> 0:37:43.190 And there are a lot of lies being presented here, uh, 0:37:43.230 --> 0:37:46.230 to people. And I'm not saying, Bradley, you're making the 0:37:46.230 --> 0:37:48.469 lies up, but we have to be discerning. We have 0:37:48.469 --> 0:37:51.390 to understand what the truth is. The truth is available 0:37:51.390 --> 0:37:55.030 out there, and we should check it. Uh, I don't 0:37:55.030 --> 0:37:57.710 think that there's any question that the truth is out there. 0:37:57.750 --> 0:38:02.509 That's why people like John Spencer, who is a professor 0:38:02.510 --> 0:38:07.900 at West Point and President Biden before. And even now, 0:38:07.940 --> 0:38:12.500 our government says there is no genocide happening in Gaza. 0:38:12.700 --> 0:38:15.420 We need to know that the truth is available. Don't 0:38:15.739 --> 0:38:19.980 make yourself gullible and believe every lie that's being promoted, 0:38:19.980 --> 0:38:23.900 every bit of propaganda by Hamas. That's what I would say. 0:38:23.940 --> 0:38:27.460 Where how do we know that the the the source 0:38:27.460 --> 0:38:30.219 is true? Or what are the true sources that we 0:38:30.219 --> 0:38:32.660 could check to find the accurate info? 0:38:33.420 --> 0:38:35.540 Well, I would say that we have to be really careful. 0:38:35.540 --> 0:38:39.980 I think there like there's an organization called Camera Org 0:38:40.739 --> 0:38:46.219 and that checks the media constantly for the lies. Here's 0:38:46.219 --> 0:38:51.420 what happens Hamas presents lies. The New York Times, The 0:38:51.420 --> 0:38:57.740 Washington Post, various newspapers or news organizations will then print it, 0:38:57.940 --> 0:39:02.660 and then camera will correct them, and then they will, uh, 0:39:03.650 --> 0:39:07.650 do it. So camera org. Honestreporting. Com uh, also the 0:39:07.650 --> 0:39:10.930 Times of Israel. Com. Those would be helpful things. I 0:39:10.969 --> 0:39:14.089 hope this helped a little bit. Tricia. Uh, we'll be 0:39:14.090 --> 0:39:17.450 back with more questions on the phone in just a moment. 0:39:17.450 --> 0:39:20.530 Stay with us. That was Tricia McMillan. I'm Michael Radnich. 0:39:34.050 --> 0:39:39.690 Welcome back to Open Line. So glad to be with you. Uh, and, uh, 0:39:40.770 --> 0:39:43.130 I did want to mention, you know, we're talking about 0:39:43.170 --> 0:39:48.569 the situation in, in Israel and the, the war with Gaza. 0:39:50.489 --> 0:39:54.370 The nation is really struggling, even though there was a 0:39:54.370 --> 0:39:59.049 successful campaign in taking out the nuclear weapons, the nuclear, 0:40:00.410 --> 0:40:06.680 the nuclear program of Iran. It seems like it's a 0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:13.720 tough time in Israel and as a result. People wonder 0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.720 is what does the future hold for Israel? Well Chosen 0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:20.520 People Ministries, one of our ministry partners, is offering a 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:24.520 free booklet. 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To sign up, just go to Openline 0:41:35.550 --> 0:41:38.070 radio.org and scroll down to where you see the link 0:41:38.070 --> 0:41:43.110 to my personal website, to my personal website, and you 0:41:43.150 --> 0:41:45.110 click on that, and then you'll be able to find 0:41:45.110 --> 0:41:49.390 out more about the Bible Conference on a cruise, uh, 0:41:49.390 --> 0:41:52.589 coming up in December, uh, we're going to talk to 0:41:52.590 --> 0:41:58.629 James in Auburndale, Florida, listening to, uh, welcome to Open Line. James, 0:41:58.660 --> 0:41:59.780 how can I help you today? 0:42:00.140 --> 0:42:02.540 Yes. Just a quick question. If you could be able 0:42:02.540 --> 0:42:04.940 to answer it for me, I would appreciate it. Um, 0:42:04.980 --> 0:42:08.219 if you love someone on this earth all these years 0:42:08.260 --> 0:42:11.100 and I'm talking about a husband and wife relationship, and 0:42:11.100 --> 0:42:13.140 they loved each other at the end of their love, 0:42:13.219 --> 0:42:15.300 the relationship more than they did when at the beginning 0:42:15.300 --> 0:42:17.259 of their marriage. And you know that both of them 0:42:17.260 --> 0:42:19.379 were saved. And then when you get to heaven, I 0:42:19.380 --> 0:42:22.100 always thought that the Lord would say, if you loved 0:42:22.100 --> 0:42:23.379 each other this way you can be able to stay 0:42:23.380 --> 0:42:27.340 with each other for all eternity. Well, something just saddened 0:42:27.340 --> 0:42:29.939 me because I just opened up the Bible last night 0:42:29.940 --> 0:42:33.580 and I was reading Isaiah chapter 65, verse 17, where 0:42:33.580 --> 0:42:37.299 it says, for behold, I create new heavens and a 0:42:37.300 --> 0:42:41.260 new earth, and the former shall not be remembered or 0:42:41.460 --> 0:42:45.100 come to mind. I am saddened. Can you be able 0:42:45.100 --> 0:42:47.419 to please tell me, is there anywhere in Scripture where 0:42:47.420 --> 0:42:50.700 it says what I was just talking about, where you 0:42:50.700 --> 0:42:54.100 would be able to stay together for all eternity with 0:42:54.100 --> 0:42:56.380 each other, and I'll hang up and listen to your response. 0:42:56.420 --> 0:42:59.250 No, no, don't hang up. Don't hang up. Can you 0:42:59.250 --> 0:43:00.010 hear me? Okay. 0:43:00.530 --> 0:43:01.330 I'm still here. 0:43:01.969 --> 0:43:05.489 Okay, good. Don't hang up. Well, I just want to 0:43:05.489 --> 0:43:09.050 be really clear that it talks about that every tear 0:43:09.050 --> 0:43:12.410 will be wiped away. Uh, and I believe when it 0:43:12.410 --> 0:43:17.089 says that past events will not be remembered or come 0:43:17.090 --> 0:43:19.370 to mind, it's sort of a figure of speech saying 0:43:19.610 --> 0:43:23.690 that the pain of the past will no longer be remembered. 0:43:24.370 --> 0:43:27.090 That when it reads exactly like I'm saying, I'm reading 0:43:27.610 --> 0:43:29.730 verbatim where it says it will not even come to mind. 0:43:30.050 --> 0:43:31.010 That kind of hurt. 0:43:32.010 --> 0:43:32.810 Uh, well. 0:43:33.090 --> 0:43:36.410 Uh, listen to what I'm saying, James. Okay. Uh, it's 0:43:36.410 --> 0:43:39.049 not saying that you won't remember anything, because then you 0:43:39.050 --> 0:43:44.370 won't remember. Jesus. Okay, uh, what it's saying is it's 0:43:44.370 --> 0:43:47.489 referring to the painful events of our past, and I 0:43:47.489 --> 0:43:52.049 don't even. I'm not even sure that, uh, it means 0:43:52.050 --> 0:43:55.170 that we won't know the bad things that happened. It 0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:59.120 just means that the pain of the past will not 0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:02.719 be remembered. The the. There'll be a loss of the pain. 0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:07.359 And now what I'm saying to you is this is 0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:12.239 a figure of speech for explaining how it is that 0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:14.839 we will no longer have tears or sorrow in the 0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:18.640 new creation. That's what it's talking about. It's not saying 0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:21.080 you won't remember your spouse. Okay. 0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:23.520 The reason why I'm saying is I'm still single, never 0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:25.640 been married, no children floating around out there. I'm one 0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:27.439 of those rare breeds. I always felt that. 0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:29.040 Okay. James. James. 0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.440 I'm trying to say is, when I'm reading this in scripture, 0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:33.960 I saw my parents how they loved each other and 0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:34.680 things like that. 0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:35.920 James. James, I. 0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:39.640 I heard what you're saying. Uh, do you hear what 0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:40.480 I'm saying? 0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:42.799 Yes, sir. And also, I was wanting to say this. 0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:45.480 When we do get to heaven, our love for God 0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:48.120 is going to be more than our wives or even ourselves. 0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:50.680 Because that's what we're supposed to do. Our love is 0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:52.760 going to be so greater. Yes. We supposed. 0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:54.200 Okay. Okay. James. 0:44:55.950 --> 0:44:59.589 James, are you looking forward to having the pain of 0:44:59.590 --> 0:45:01.950 this life comforted and removed? 0:45:04.190 --> 0:45:04.750 Yes. 0:45:07.070 --> 0:45:07.989 Well, that's what. 0:45:07.989 --> 0:45:11.669 That verse is promising. Okay, uh, don't make it say 0:45:11.670 --> 0:45:17.110 more than it's meant to say. Um, there there are many, 0:45:17.110 --> 0:45:21.190 many things that we will remember. Uh, we'll remember that 0:45:21.190 --> 0:45:23.590 Jesus died for us and rose again. And that he's 0:45:23.590 --> 0:45:27.630 our Redeemer and that we will follow him forever. We'll 0:45:27.630 --> 0:45:32.310 remember that. We'll remember the pain, the the, the redemption 0:45:32.310 --> 0:45:35.270 from the past, from that pain will remember all those 0:45:35.270 --> 0:45:38.549 ones that he gave us and we loved. And and 0:45:38.790 --> 0:45:46.589 so you don't have to stress out about not remembering things. 0:45:46.590 --> 0:45:48.950 It's not like God has a neuralyzer and we forget 0:45:48.950 --> 0:45:54.140 our past. Uh, okay. Uh, Uh, that he'll wave in 0:45:54.140 --> 0:45:56.500 front of our heads and life will just begin at 0:45:56.500 --> 0:46:00.060 the new heavens and new earth. It'll. It'll will last forever. 0:46:00.060 --> 0:46:04.020 With great memories of the great things that God has done. 0:46:04.180 --> 0:46:08.259 Thanks for your call. Really appreciate it. Well, that's the 0:46:08.260 --> 0:46:10.740 first hour of Open Line. I can't believe how quickly 0:46:10.739 --> 0:46:13.219 that went. Uh, keep listening to the second hour on 0:46:13.219 --> 0:46:16.219 most of these stations. And if you can't catch the 0:46:16.219 --> 0:46:19.819 second hour, you can always go to our website. 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