WEBVTT - Hour 2: Clarity from the Scriptures 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:12.799 Hello, friends. It's time for the second hour of Open 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:17.680 Line with Doctor Michael Ray Moody Radio's Bible Study Across America. 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:21.200 And we're talking about your questions about the Bible, God 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.600 and the spiritual life. My name is Michael Ray. I'm 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.480 the academic dean and professor of Jewish studies and Bible 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:30.840 at Moody Bible Institute. And we're sitting around the radio 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:34.479 kitchen table talking about your questions. So why not give 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:41.080 me a call? The phone number (877) 548-3675. Let me give 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:49.120 you that again. (877) 548-3675. If you can't call, you can 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.720 just go to our website, Online radio.org and click on 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:54.959 the link that says Ask Michael a question. You can 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.320 post your question there and Trish will put it in 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.490 the mailbag. I hope you have your Bibles open still. 0:01:00.850 --> 0:01:03.490 Now you have a second cup of coffee, because we're 0:01:03.490 --> 0:01:05.850 going to talk about the scriptures and we're going to 0:01:05.850 --> 0:01:10.850 talk to Tony in Cleveland, Ohio listening on WC rf 0:01:11.290 --> 0:01:13.690 welcome to Open Line. Tony. How can I help you today? 0:01:15.050 --> 0:01:18.890 Yes. Thank you Michael, thanks for taking my call. Sure. Um, 0:01:18.890 --> 0:01:23.170 I just wanted to, uh, I got Matthew 2530 when 0:01:23.170 --> 0:01:25.170 Jesus spoke about out of darkness. I want to know 0:01:25.170 --> 0:01:27.410 about out of darkness. It's out of darkness. It's the 0:01:27.410 --> 0:01:30.929 same as hell or out of darkness. Another dimension from hell, 0:01:30.970 --> 0:01:31.410 you know? 0:01:32.930 --> 0:01:36.770 Uh, well, I think it's pretty clear. I mean, technically, 0:01:36.770 --> 0:01:40.170 what is hell? I believe when we talk about hell, 0:01:40.690 --> 0:01:46.130 it's talking about eternal separation from God. Right. Uh, and 0:01:46.130 --> 0:01:50.809 so there may be different aspects to it. So, uh, 0:01:50.810 --> 0:01:54.850 for example, there's the, uh, the Lake of Fire, which 0:01:54.850 --> 0:01:57.570 is the ultimate experience of separation from God. 0:01:57.890 --> 0:01:58.370 Yeah. 0:01:58.770 --> 0:02:04.010 But but this is saying that the the worthless slave 0:02:04.370 --> 0:02:07.490 was cast into outer darkness. In that place there will 0:02:07.490 --> 0:02:09.730 be weeping and gnashing of teeth. So, yeah, I think 0:02:09.730 --> 0:02:13.290 that would be a good description of whenever we're separated 0:02:13.290 --> 0:02:16.329 from God, that's a place of outer darkness and weeping 0:02:16.330 --> 0:02:19.610 and gnashing of teeth. And that would be hell, right? Yeah. 0:02:19.650 --> 0:02:23.410 Okay, okay. Okay, okay, okay. Listen, let me. 0:02:23.410 --> 0:02:26.290 Just say, you know, sometimes people don't want to believe 0:02:26.290 --> 0:02:28.050 that there really is a hell. We all want to 0:02:28.050 --> 0:02:29.650 believe in heaven. 0:02:29.690 --> 0:02:31.050 Right? Right. Yeah. 0:02:31.090 --> 0:02:32.810 Hell, you know. 0:02:33.730 --> 0:02:34.330 But a lot of. 0:02:34.330 --> 0:02:36.370 People, a lot of people take life for granted because 0:02:36.370 --> 0:02:38.810 of his love and kindness. But don't they forget that 0:02:38.810 --> 0:02:41.049 God is a God of judgment, too? You know? 0:02:41.050 --> 0:02:41.770 Okay. Yeah. 0:02:41.810 --> 0:02:43.810 He loves, he loves, he loves us, but he hates 0:02:43.810 --> 0:02:46.329 the sin. So he got a judge if he's, you know. 0:02:46.330 --> 0:02:47.970 So a lot of people you write about, a lot 0:02:47.970 --> 0:02:51.090 of people don't want to accept there's a hell, a 0:02:51.090 --> 0:02:53.049 literal hell. God don't want to go to hell because 0:02:53.050 --> 0:02:54.690 of his son. You know what his son did? 0:02:54.690 --> 0:02:57.660 I was I was talking with someone who said they 0:02:57.660 --> 0:03:00.100 didn't think there was such a thing as hell, and 0:03:00.540 --> 0:03:02.579 but they did believe in an afterlife. And I said, well, 0:03:02.580 --> 0:03:04.460 what about Hitler? Do you think Hitler gets to go 0:03:04.460 --> 0:03:08.660 to heaven then? Well, no, Hitler would go to hell. 0:03:08.780 --> 0:03:12.180 I said, okay, so now we've got one. And then 0:03:12.180 --> 0:03:16.260 I started mentioning some other people from history, uh, Stalin, 0:03:16.300 --> 0:03:21.020 Attila the Hun, uh, all these, uh, violent, awful people. Uh, no. 0:03:21.020 --> 0:03:23.300 They're going to hell. And so I said, okay, so 0:03:23.300 --> 0:03:25.820 now what we have to do is demarcate how much 0:03:25.820 --> 0:03:31.020 sin separates us from God. And, uh, and now here's 0:03:31.020 --> 0:03:33.460 the most important thing. If you're listening. I know, Tony, 0:03:33.460 --> 0:03:38.540 you know this, uh, that God is going to judge sin. 0:03:39.340 --> 0:03:41.820 And the way he judged it is the Lord Jesus 0:03:41.820 --> 0:03:44.300 took the punishment that we deserve. The Lord Jesus died 0:03:44.300 --> 0:03:49.420 for us, and then he rose again to life. And 0:03:49.500 --> 0:03:51.540 all we have to do is trust that he paid 0:03:51.540 --> 0:03:54.140 our penalty and that he's alive to give us new 0:03:54.140 --> 0:03:56.990 life and put our trust in trust in him and 0:03:56.990 --> 0:04:02.030 in that sacrifice for us, and our sins are forgiven. 0:04:02.030 --> 0:04:04.670 The punishment has been paid for us. We never have 0:04:04.670 --> 0:04:07.070 to be fearful of hell. That's the thing we need 0:04:07.070 --> 0:04:11.070 to remember that. That nothing we can do to earn heaven, 0:04:11.070 --> 0:04:14.230 but we can trust in the Lord Jesus. So if 0:04:14.230 --> 0:04:16.310 you're listening, that's what I want to encourage you to do. 0:04:16.350 --> 0:04:18.270 Trust the Lord Jesus so you don't have to ever 0:04:18.270 --> 0:04:23.549 fear hell. Thanks for the great reminder. Call, Tony. Appreciate it. Uh, 0:04:23.550 --> 0:04:27.950 we're going to talk next with Marie in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 0:04:27.950 --> 0:04:30.670 listening to R&B. Welcome to Open Line, Marie. How can 0:04:30.670 --> 0:04:31.309 I help you? 0:04:32.150 --> 0:04:34.190 Hi. Good morning. How are you today? 0:04:34.830 --> 0:04:37.670 I'm doing great. Thanks for asking. How can I help you? 0:04:38.470 --> 0:04:43.909 Yes. Um, I'm thinking about when Jesus was in the 0:04:43.910 --> 0:04:45.230 Garden of Gethsemane. 0:04:46.150 --> 0:04:46.870 Mhm. 0:04:46.910 --> 0:04:51.670 And he was praying and, um, he said, not my 0:04:51.670 --> 0:04:56.560 will be done, but thy will be done. In my 0:04:56.560 --> 0:05:02.200 Christian walk. I remember the verse in Psalm that said, 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.080 delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.200 the desires of your heart. 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:08.480 Mhm. 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:12.840 So, um, it's hard for me to get to. Thy 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.560 will be done because I may suffer. And then I 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.160 want to delight myself in him. So he can give 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:23.960 me the desires of my heart. Um, I think, is 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:28.279 there a fine line? Um. Man, maybe I need to do, like, 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:33.039 merge from delighting myself in him, and I can put 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:36.200 the desires of my heart, and then his will be done. 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:38.720 Well, here's here's the thing to that. 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:43.320 Okay. Marie. Marie. Marie, here's the thing. I think you're 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:50.159 overthinking this. Okay. Generally speaking, when we delight in the Lord, 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.400 he gives us the desires of our heart. But what 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.480 he does is he might. Even if we're delighting in him, 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:59.520 he might even change the desires of our heart. My 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.640 desire of my heart right now might be that I 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:07.120 never suffer. That might be the desire of my heart. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.000 But if I delight myself in the Lord, he might 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.720 change my heart. That I would say, Lord, the desire 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:18.240 of my heart is to do your will, and that 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:22.680 I would suffer. If your will means suffering, that I 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.039 would do it faithfully and bring honor to you. So 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:29.280 when we delight ourselves in the Lord, he changes our 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.760 hearts to be whatever it is that we can say, 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:38.080 your will be done. Uh, and so I wouldn't worry 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.760 as much as it sounds to me like you're anxious 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:46.440 about this. Just seek the Lord. Delight yourself in him. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:51.760 Allow him to change your heart as needed. Uh, you know, 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:53.890 the Lord Jesus is not that he didn't want to 0:06:53.890 --> 0:06:56.210 do God's will. He said he always does the father's will. 0:06:56.290 --> 0:06:59.450 He just knew that this would be hard. Not. Nevertheless, 0:06:59.450 --> 0:07:01.570 my will, but your will be done. He wanted to 0:07:01.570 --> 0:07:05.969 do the father's will. And, uh, what he did was 0:07:06.770 --> 0:07:09.490 he said. No one takes my life, but I lay 0:07:09.490 --> 0:07:13.610 it down willingly. Why? Even though it was hard. Because 0:07:13.610 --> 0:07:15.650 he was delighting in God, and he wanted to do 0:07:15.650 --> 0:07:18.010 the father's will. Okay, Mary. 0:07:18.850 --> 0:07:19.170 Yeah. 0:07:19.370 --> 0:07:22.890 Thank you so much. Yeah, it really, really helped. And 0:07:22.890 --> 0:07:26.970 I'll continue to walk with him and have him change 0:07:26.970 --> 0:07:30.490 my heart so that I can do his will. 0:07:31.130 --> 0:07:33.850 Yep. That's what it is. Yeah. We make his will, 0:07:33.890 --> 0:07:36.890 our will, and it turns our lives around. Thanks a 0:07:36.890 --> 0:07:40.570 lot for your call, Marie. Uh, we will, uh, talk 0:07:40.570 --> 0:07:45.610 next with Carol in Peoria, Illinois, listening on Wbai online. 0:07:46.130 --> 0:07:48.290 Welcome to Open Line. How can I help you? Carol. 0:07:49.450 --> 0:07:52.540 Thank you. And thank you for taking my call. So, 0:07:52.580 --> 0:07:55.900 you know, in Sunday school last week, a guy just 0:07:55.940 --> 0:07:58.900 realized for the first time that it says Rose again 0:07:59.460 --> 0:08:02.060 and the Apostle's Creed. And he says he only rose once. 0:08:02.780 --> 0:08:05.500 So one more thing I would like to add that 0:08:05.500 --> 0:08:07.980 I just thought of is it kind of bothers me 0:08:07.980 --> 0:08:10.700 that I like the Apostle's Creed so much because I 0:08:10.700 --> 0:08:13.740 had a speaker come to our church, and I'm sure 0:08:13.740 --> 0:08:16.900 you know him. His name was Doctor Moskowitz with Jews 0:08:16.900 --> 0:08:19.900 for Jesus, and he says the Jewish people don't have creeds. 0:08:19.900 --> 0:08:22.820 So it kind of bothers me that I like it. 0:08:23.500 --> 0:08:30.460 Well, Jewish people don't are not it's not a creedal, uh, faith. Uh, 0:08:30.460 --> 0:08:37.900 Judaism is a religion of deed, not creed. Uh, as, uh, 0:08:37.940 --> 0:08:40.780 it's what you do that matters more than what you believe, 0:08:40.780 --> 0:08:46.700 that's why. But there there's Maimonides, the great medieval scholar, uh, 0:08:46.700 --> 0:08:50.219 had 13 articles of faith. It's basically a creed. They 0:08:50.220 --> 0:08:52.579 start with the phrase I believe with perfect faith and 0:08:52.580 --> 0:08:55.340 it has all these things. So there is some sort 0:08:55.340 --> 0:09:01.340 of creed in Judaism. Uh, and uh, by the way, uh, Jan, 0:09:01.340 --> 0:09:03.980 with the Lord now for about ten years, uh, who 0:09:04.020 --> 0:09:06.540 you heard say that was one of my dear friends 0:09:06.540 --> 0:09:13.380 for many, many, many years since 1972. Uh, but anyway, uh, 0:09:13.420 --> 0:09:16.980 the the question you're asking is about why he rose 0:09:17.020 --> 0:09:20.260 again when he only rose once. Is that. Do I 0:09:20.260 --> 0:09:24.059 understand your question? Right? Okay. Yes. Well, when it says 0:09:24.059 --> 0:09:26.140 that he rose again, it doesn't mean that he rose 0:09:26.140 --> 0:09:30.740 multiple times. What it means is he died and rose 0:09:30.780 --> 0:09:36.219 again to life. They again refers to him living again. 0:09:38.020 --> 0:09:39.739 That's what it means. He was alive. 0:09:40.300 --> 0:09:43.579 Poor choice of words. Uh, I don't know what I 0:09:43.580 --> 0:09:47.780 would substitute with your understanding, but I don't like Rose again. 0:09:47.980 --> 0:09:49.429 To me, it's a little confusing. 0:09:49.470 --> 0:09:53.630 It's it's. Well, okay, but here's what it is. This 0:09:53.630 --> 0:09:57.350 is it's elliptical. Here's what it means. The Lord Jesus 0:09:57.350 --> 0:10:02.350 died for us, and he rose to life again. 0:10:03.590 --> 0:10:04.310 Yeah. 0:10:04.309 --> 0:10:07.790 He was alive. He was dead. And he rose to 0:10:07.830 --> 0:10:11.070 life again. That's all it means. And it's idiomatic. It's 0:10:11.070 --> 0:10:14.030 what we. Most people understand it. Maybe they're not as 0:10:14.030 --> 0:10:17.030 technical as you are in terms of wanting to understand 0:10:17.030 --> 0:10:22.190 the words precisely, but it's elliptical, meaning that it presumes 0:10:22.190 --> 0:10:26.469 he rose to life and now he's living again. That's 0:10:26.470 --> 0:10:29.390 what it means. So anyway, thanks for your call, Carol. 0:10:29.390 --> 0:10:32.110 I really appreciate it. Let me let me tell everyone 0:10:32.110 --> 0:10:36.190 about our current resource. 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And we're going to take 0:11:55.170 --> 0:11:57.370 a break here. When we come back we'll take more 0:11:57.450 --> 0:12:03.010 of your calls. The phone number (877) 548-3675. And we'll talk 0:12:03.010 --> 0:12:07.130 about the Bible, God and the spiritual life with me. Michael. 0:12:07.610 --> 0:12:15.490 Stay with us. We're coming back with more questions straight ahead. 0:12:33.530 --> 0:12:36.090 Welcome back to Open Line. I'm Michael Wright. I'm so 0:12:36.090 --> 0:12:39.050 glad to be taking your questions today about the Bible, 0:12:39.090 --> 0:12:41.650 God and the spiritual life. We're going to talk to 0:12:41.929 --> 0:12:45.810 Wendy in Cleveland, Ohio, listening on CRF. WCF. Welcome to 0:12:45.850 --> 0:12:47.650 Open Line, Wendy. How can I help you today? 0:12:48.370 --> 0:12:51.250 Hi. I really enjoy your show and thank you for 0:12:51.250 --> 0:12:54.970 taking my call. I have a question. Um, I currently 0:12:54.970 --> 0:12:57.410 have a 95 year old brother in law who is 0:12:57.410 --> 0:13:03.089 suffering from dementia. And, um, I'm trying to explain the 0:13:03.090 --> 0:13:06.050 plan of salvation to him, but he doesn't seem to 0:13:06.730 --> 0:13:11.010 be able to comprehend it or get it. So a 0:13:11.010 --> 0:13:15.610 person in that state of mind, um, will they or 0:13:15.610 --> 0:13:19.290 could they accept the Lord as their personal savior or. 0:13:19.330 --> 0:13:22.890 I mean, and this is part of it is I 0:13:22.890 --> 0:13:26.290 feel like I probably should have shared the gospel with 0:13:26.290 --> 0:13:27.010 him before. 0:13:28.170 --> 0:13:28.290 He. 0:13:28.290 --> 0:13:29.170 Got to this. 0:13:29.170 --> 0:13:29.569 State. 0:13:29.610 --> 0:13:32.770 And Wendy, I agree with you. I think we shouldn't 0:13:32.770 --> 0:13:37.210 wait for the right people. Yeah, so but here's the thing. 0:13:37.570 --> 0:13:43.210 I don't, uh, I don't think that I could tell 0:13:43.210 --> 0:13:46.540 you if this person can understand the gospel or not. 0:13:46.580 --> 0:13:48.580 I don't know what they understand. You don't even know 0:13:48.580 --> 0:13:52.020 what they understand. So I would keep talking about it. Uh, 0:13:52.020 --> 0:13:58.460 the the second thing is, uh, I have found, you know, 0:13:58.500 --> 0:14:02.300 I dealt with people, uh, loved ones who were going 0:14:02.300 --> 0:14:06.179 through dementia at the end of life. And I found 0:14:06.179 --> 0:14:10.540 that they had good days and bad days. Uh, and 0:14:11.420 --> 0:14:14.620 some days they, they were very had very clear thoughts. 0:14:14.660 --> 0:14:19.820 And some days they just couldn't understand anything. Uh, and 0:14:19.820 --> 0:14:23.940 so I have a friend whose dad was suffering with 0:14:23.940 --> 0:14:27.900 dementia and was really close to dying. And this friend 0:14:27.900 --> 0:14:32.900 began to pray for a window of opportunity, of clarity, 0:14:32.900 --> 0:14:38.540 of thought for his dad. And sure enough, one day 0:14:38.540 --> 0:14:40.500 he was in there with his dad and his dad. 0:14:40.500 --> 0:14:43.150 He felt like his dad was clear as a bell. 0:14:44.910 --> 0:14:48.229 Not at all like the dementia that he had been experiencing. 0:14:49.070 --> 0:14:50.830 And he shared the gospel with him, and his dad 0:14:50.870 --> 0:14:53.630 trusted the Lord. And then he went back to being 0:14:53.630 --> 0:15:01.230 almost unintelligible afterwards. But that little window of opportunity came. 0:15:01.470 --> 0:15:03.510 So that's what I would do. I would pray for 0:15:03.510 --> 0:15:07.310 a moment of clarity, so that you can be encouraged 0:15:07.350 --> 0:15:11.590 and assured that he at least understands what you're saying. Uh, 0:15:11.630 --> 0:15:15.830 you know, because people dealing with dementia, sometimes they have 0:15:15.870 --> 0:15:18.670 greater moments of clarity than other times. I think you've 0:15:18.710 --> 0:15:19.790 noticed that, haven't you? 0:15:20.430 --> 0:15:24.590 Yes, exactly. And that's exactly what I have been praying for, 0:15:24.590 --> 0:15:26.630 that the Lord will give me that opportunity. 0:15:27.230 --> 0:15:27.870 Yeah, yeah. 0:15:27.910 --> 0:15:29.990 You pray about that and the Lord will open the door. 0:15:30.190 --> 0:15:34.310 I'm pretty sure, uh, you know, I don't know. Uh, 0:15:34.310 --> 0:15:37.150 and also, when you're talking with him, even in, in 0:15:37.150 --> 0:15:40.510 a seemingly confused state that he doesn't understand, you're not 0:15:40.510 --> 0:15:44.230 sure what he's grasping and what he isn't. So you 0:15:44.230 --> 0:15:46.550 just keep talking and keep loving. Okay. 0:15:46.870 --> 0:15:48.630 Okay. Okay. Thank you so much. 0:15:49.150 --> 0:15:49.670 Thank you for your. 0:15:49.670 --> 0:15:56.510 Call, Wendy. Appreciate it. We're going to talk with, uh, Abigail. Uh, 0:15:56.550 --> 0:16:00.430 listening in Cleveland on CRF. Welcome to Open Line. Abigail. 0:16:00.430 --> 0:16:01.350 How can I help you? 0:16:02.350 --> 0:16:05.710 I wanted to know how you became a Christian. 0:16:06.750 --> 0:16:12.550 Wow. Abigail, how old are you? Nine. You're nine years old. 0:16:12.950 --> 0:16:18.190 And what grade are you in? Third. Third grade. And 0:16:18.470 --> 0:16:20.470 have you become a follower of Jesus? Do you love 0:16:20.470 --> 0:16:26.390 the Lord Jesus? Yes. That's good. Well, the way I 0:16:26.390 --> 0:16:32.030 became a follower of Jesus was this, uh. I got 0:16:32.030 --> 0:16:35.750 into a big argument with my mom who believed in Jesus, 0:16:36.510 --> 0:16:39.670 and then I argued about whether or not the Old 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:45.320 Testament foretold the Messiah. And because I was ultimately convinced 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.240 that the Old Testament did predict that Jesus was the 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:52.400 Messiah and I needed someone to forgive my sin, I 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:57.280 finally one day surprised myself and trusted in Jesus. But 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.840 it was through reading messianic passages in the Old Testament 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:07.760 that I became a follower of Yeshua of Jesus. Okay, Abigail. Thanks. 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:11.040 Thank you. Oh thank you. Thanks for calling. I appreciate 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:19.560 you listening. Okay. You have a good day. Okay. Bye bye. Uh, 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:24.320 we're going to talk with Molly in Spokane, Washington, listening 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:26.919 on Kmbi. Welcome to Open Line. Molly. How can I 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:27.679 help you today? 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:28.800 Thank you. 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.800 Um. Thank you. Uh, you are such a blessing. 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:34.600 To help. 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:41.490 Us understand. Um, okay. I, uh, would like to know 0:17:41.970 --> 0:17:51.770 in Galatians um, 211 through, um. Oh, where is it? 0:17:52.050 --> 0:17:54.210 It's 212 I think you're asking about. 0:17:54.570 --> 0:18:01.609 Yes, I am. I am. Uh, when Peter. Um, uh. 0:18:01.650 --> 0:18:02.169 Let me let me. 0:18:02.170 --> 0:18:02.889 Read it. Okay. 0:18:03.450 --> 0:18:04.369 When, when. 0:18:04.570 --> 0:18:07.010 When Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his 0:18:07.010 --> 0:18:11.090 face because he stood condemned. For he regularly ate with 0:18:11.090 --> 0:18:14.530 the Gentiles before certain men came from James. However, when 0:18:14.530 --> 0:18:18.689 they came, he withdrew and separated himself because he feared 0:18:18.690 --> 0:18:22.330 those from the circumcision party. What's your question about that? 0:18:23.450 --> 0:18:31.610 Well, is that the same when when Peter led the people, even, uh, Barnabas. 0:18:33.490 --> 0:18:37.810 Is that the same? And I can't find it, um, 0:18:37.850 --> 0:18:42.130 in Matthew 24 or in revelation somewhere. Is that the 0:18:42.210 --> 0:18:45.210 same when the elect are deceived? 0:18:45.450 --> 0:18:48.650 No no no no no. And it says the elect. Uh, 0:18:48.650 --> 0:18:55.410 the genuine elect won't be deceived. Uh, but but this 0:18:55.410 --> 0:19:01.090 is talking about Peter giving in to, uh, sort of 0:19:01.130 --> 0:19:07.970 social pressure. Uh, and and, uh, he's. Paul corrected him 0:19:08.210 --> 0:19:12.570 and he received it. And that happens to, you know, 0:19:12.570 --> 0:19:15.410 to all of us. Sometimes we we give in to 0:19:15.410 --> 0:19:18.570 social pressure about who we want to be more when 0:19:18.570 --> 0:19:21.890 we're in junior high. But, uh, about who we're going 0:19:21.890 --> 0:19:24.409 to be friends with, who we're going to stand with. Uh, 0:19:24.410 --> 0:19:27.130 that's what Peter did. It was foolish of him. Paul 0:19:27.130 --> 0:19:32.050 corrected him. Peter received it. They stayed close. So, uh. 0:19:32.050 --> 0:19:33.129 Okay. We're okay. 0:19:33.130 --> 0:19:35.929 We're okay. Uh, we have to be careful not to 0:19:35.970 --> 0:19:38.460 give in give in to social pressure. Molly. That's what 0:19:38.460 --> 0:19:41.500 that's a reminder to us of. Okay. Yeah. 0:19:41.500 --> 0:19:41.940 Thanks. 0:19:42.780 --> 0:19:43.100 Okay. 0:19:43.220 --> 0:19:44.219 Thank you. Thanks for. 0:19:44.220 --> 0:19:48.540 Your call. Appreciate it. Uh, we're going to speak with 0:19:48.540 --> 0:19:52.020 Jim in Peoria, Illinois. Welcome to Open Line. Jim. How 0:19:52.020 --> 0:19:52.859 can I help you? 0:19:54.140 --> 0:19:58.540 Yes. And, uh, Hebrews chapter six and Hebrews chapter ten, 0:19:58.540 --> 0:20:03.500 about the middle of the chapter. It, uh, the way 0:20:03.500 --> 0:20:06.020 I read it, it basically says that you can lose 0:20:06.020 --> 0:20:11.060 your salvation. Uh, Hebrews ten basically states that if we 0:20:11.060 --> 0:20:14.660 continue sinning, like if we have this one sin that 0:20:14.660 --> 0:20:18.260 we can't seem to stop, uh, that we, uh, the 0:20:18.260 --> 0:20:21.780 only thing we have to look forward to is this hell. 0:20:22.660 --> 0:20:23.340 Am I correct? 0:20:23.660 --> 0:20:26.500 So you think you think someone can lose their salvation? 0:20:27.740 --> 0:20:28.180 Yeah. 0:20:28.859 --> 0:20:32.420 Yeah. Okay. Well, let me just say, uh, here's what 0:20:32.420 --> 0:20:37.949 the Lord Jesus said. Okay. Uh, in John chapter six, 0:20:39.030 --> 0:20:43.310 verse 37 through 40, here's what he said. He said, 0:20:43.310 --> 0:20:47.470 I have I'm going to pick it up right here. Uh, 0:20:47.470 --> 0:20:54.390 John six and verse 37, everyone the father gives me 0:20:54.390 --> 0:20:55.949 will come to me, and the one who comes to me, 0:20:55.950 --> 0:20:59.030 I will never cast out. For I have come down 0:20:59.030 --> 0:21:01.190 from heaven not to do my will, but the will 0:21:01.230 --> 0:21:04.470 of him who sent me. So does the Lord Jesus 0:21:04.470 --> 0:21:06.750 always do the father's will? I think that verse would 0:21:06.750 --> 0:21:08.510 say yes. Don't you agree. 0:21:08.790 --> 0:21:11.590 Jim? I agree, but, uh. 0:21:11.910 --> 0:21:14.470 Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. 0:21:15.630 --> 0:21:19.550 Verse 39. This is the will of him who sent 0:21:19.550 --> 0:21:24.030 me that I should lose none of those he's given me, 0:21:24.510 --> 0:21:29.869 but should raise them up on the last day. So what? 0:21:29.869 --> 0:21:32.830 The Lord Jesus always does the father's will. And what 0:21:32.830 --> 0:21:37.240 is the father's will. Never to lose anyone who has 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:41.919 really come to know the Lord Jesus. Uh, so, uh, 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.399 I have to make that very clear word of the 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:48.280 Lord Jesus. And then when I come to Hebrews ten, 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.840 which is what you're talking about, I have to remember 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:55.840 that a person who knows the Lord can't be lost 0:21:55.840 --> 0:22:01.960 by him. He guarantees that. So what does Hebrews 1026 mean? 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:06.720 If we deliberately sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:11.320 there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins. What is 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:15.600 the sin that we may commit that he's talking about, 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:20.360 that he's talking deliberately about the sin of deliberate apostasy, 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:26.119 of saying, I don't believe. I don't believe in Jesus. 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:30.119 What that proves is a person never really came to 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:34.480 know the Lord. If they commit apostasy. They never knew 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:37.639 the Lord. If we deliberately sin after receiving the knowledge 0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:40.159 of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for 0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:44.040 sins but a terrifying expectation of judgment. He is warning 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:47.760 them this mixed multitude among the Hebrews. Some were thinking, 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:52.200 you know, when the persecution passes, I'll, I'll, I'll. We're 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.320 being persecuted now. I'm going to abandon the faith. But 0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:58.120 when the persecution passes, then I'll come back. He says, no, 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:01.840 we do that. Uh, no. We're demonstrating that we never 0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.520 knew the Lord and that we're lost. That's what I think. 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:05.680 Hebrews 1026. 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:07.840 Who is Hebrews six talking about, then? 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.840 I think he's talking about the same mixed multitude. And, uh, 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.880 I don't I really I encourage you go back and 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.200 listen to the first hour because someone called up about 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:20.440 Hebrews six four in the first hour. Uh, and we 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.640 talked about that earlier, but it's talking about that mixed multitude, 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:25.840 people who are being challenged to go on from an 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:30.480 Old Testament faith to a full New Testament faith in Jesus. 0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:33.090 That's what that's talking about. Okay, Jim. 0:23:34.330 --> 0:23:34.770 Okay. 0:23:35.570 --> 0:23:39.890 Okay. I we talked about it last hour, so that's 0:23:39.890 --> 0:23:42.650 why I'm not going to go into it again this hour. 0:23:42.650 --> 0:23:45.770 But thanks for your call. I appreciate it, Jim. Uh, 0:23:45.770 --> 0:23:51.450 we're going to talk to Carol in, uh, Pine Grove, Illinois, 0:23:51.490 --> 0:23:54.530 listening on WNBA. Welcome to Open Line, Carol. How can 0:23:54.530 --> 0:23:55.170 I help you? 0:23:56.210 --> 0:23:59.250 Hi, doctor. Thanks for taking my call. We were talking 0:23:59.250 --> 0:24:03.090 about this in Bible study the other day. Talking about, um, 0:24:03.290 --> 0:24:06.850 the the Romans Road, and, um, we're saved. If we 0:24:06.890 --> 0:24:08.850 call on the name of the Lord and believe in 0:24:08.850 --> 0:24:12.450 what Jesus has done. And then someone asked the question, well, 0:24:12.450 --> 0:24:17.410 what if someone hasn't heard about Jesus, but they've lived 0:24:17.410 --> 0:24:20.210 a fairly good life, then what happens to them? 0:24:20.970 --> 0:24:21.410 Mhm. 0:24:22.850 --> 0:24:26.129 Would they be, do you think, judged based on works. 0:24:28.650 --> 0:24:31.900 Um I mean I don't know. I said, you know, 0:24:31.940 --> 0:24:35.500 we don't know how the Lord's going to judge them, but, um, 0:24:35.540 --> 0:24:37.100 I wanted to get your input. 0:24:37.619 --> 0:24:37.859 Okay. 0:24:37.859 --> 0:24:42.379 Well, here's what Romans one says. Okay. This is very important. Uh, 0:24:42.380 --> 0:24:47.940 it says in Romans 120 for his God's invisible attributes, 0:24:47.940 --> 0:24:52.940 that is, his eternal power and divine nature have been 0:24:52.940 --> 0:24:57.380 clearly seen since the creation of the world, being understood 0:24:57.380 --> 0:25:04.340 through what he has made. As a result, people are 0:25:04.340 --> 0:25:08.780 without excuse. For though they knew God, they did not 0:25:08.780 --> 0:25:11.740 glorify Him as God and show gratitude. So basically what 0:25:11.740 --> 0:25:16.859 it's saying is that the general revelation, the the creation, uh, 0:25:16.859 --> 0:25:19.060 the general revelation of the creation of the world, just 0:25:19.060 --> 0:25:21.460 looking at the world reveals that there is a God 0:25:21.460 --> 0:25:26.180 of power and might, and that is sufficient to condemn. 0:25:26.340 --> 0:25:30.500 Not sufficient to save, but sufficient to sufficient to condemn 0:25:30.500 --> 0:25:33.380 what it is, though if people will respond to that 0:25:33.380 --> 0:25:38.180 general revelation, then God will send the more direct message 0:25:38.300 --> 0:25:41.379 of the good news to them. But they it starts 0:25:41.380 --> 0:25:45.860 with the general revelation out there that God has provided. 0:25:45.900 --> 0:25:49.420 That's sort of a quick answer, but, uh, I hope 0:25:49.420 --> 0:25:51.459 that helps. Carol, we'll be right back with more of 0:25:51.460 --> 0:25:59.139 your questions right here on Open Line. Stay with us. 0:26:16.060 --> 0:26:20.379 Welcome back to Open Line. I'm so glad to be 0:26:20.380 --> 0:26:23.379 with you this morning talking about your questions about the Bible, 0:26:23.380 --> 0:26:26.260 God and the spiritual life we're about to start the 0:26:26.300 --> 0:26:30.110 Febc mailbag. Trish McMillan is bringing it in. 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She's 0:27:11.869 --> 0:27:17.230 the one that put the mailbag together. And here you are. Tricia. Hey, Tricia. 0:27:17.270 --> 0:27:18.150 Yes. 0:27:18.150 --> 0:27:23.270 Uh, I thought it was interesting that someone called earlier 0:27:23.510 --> 0:27:30.760 and wanted and mentioned that they were kitchen table partners. And, uh, now, 0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.360 kitchen table partners are really important to us. I mean, 0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:37.480 I like working with everyone in the studio there. There's 0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:40.359 a bunch of people, and we're all. Kitchen table partners 0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:43.560 in that sense. But kitchen table partners are special. What 0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:48.639 they are are people who have, uh, committed to giving 0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:54.160 monthly to open line. And, uh, as a result, they're saying, 0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:55.800 you know, we want to give monthly so you guys 0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.439 can be on weekly. 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But I think the best 0:28:31.890 --> 0:28:34.090 thing about being a kitchen table partner is that if 0:28:34.090 --> 0:28:37.010 you give $30 a month, then you get everything in 0:28:37.010 --> 0:28:39.890 the Moody Publishers catalog at 50% off. That's just a 0:28:39.890 --> 0:28:42.730 great deal. So if you're interested in becoming a kitchen 0:28:42.730 --> 0:28:51.170 table partner, call 88864471228886447122. Or you can go to open 0:28:51.170 --> 0:28:56.570 line radio.org. Well Trisha let's see what we've got here 0:28:56.570 --> 0:28:57.290 in the mailbag. 0:28:57.410 --> 0:29:02.130 All right let's see. Um, Deidre emailed us from Indiana 0:29:02.730 --> 0:29:06.130 and we have had this question before, but New Year, 0:29:06.170 --> 0:29:10.170 new time to ask it. Um, when we see verses 0:29:10.450 --> 0:29:14.690 that sometimes will be in brackets, that will say sometimes 0:29:14.690 --> 0:29:19.770 these verses are not in, um, certain manuscripts or they're 0:29:19.770 --> 0:29:23.250 missing like they're bracketed. And so they will be in 0:29:23.250 --> 0:29:27.050 some Bibles, won't be in some Bibles. Sometimes there's larger 0:29:27.050 --> 0:29:32.370 passages in a footnote when what's happening there? Why? Why 0:29:32.370 --> 0:29:33.729 is that indicator there? 0:29:34.210 --> 0:29:34.650 So I just. 0:29:34.650 --> 0:29:38.290 Turned in my Bible to Mark 16 nine, and there's 0:29:38.290 --> 0:29:40.729 a bracket at the beginning, and it goes all the 0:29:40.730 --> 0:29:46.050 way to the end of the book. Uh, Mark 1620 0:29:46.090 --> 0:29:49.970 and it has a little note there that you can 0:29:49.970 --> 0:29:54.450 pick up. Uh, there's always a footnote with it. And 0:29:54.450 --> 0:30:02.650 what it says with the bracket, uh, is, uh, that, uh, 0:30:02.650 --> 0:30:10.810 it says, uh, other manuscripts omit bracketed text. In other words, 0:30:10.810 --> 0:30:15.730 there are many manuscripts that don't have those verses. That's 0:30:15.730 --> 0:30:19.210 the ancient manuscripts. And you know what the question I 0:30:19.210 --> 0:30:22.690 usually get is why do new translations either bracket or 0:30:22.900 --> 0:30:27.060 leave out verses from the Bible like they're bad, they're 0:30:27.260 --> 0:30:32.980 getting rid of stuff. Well, in truth, what earlier versions 0:30:32.980 --> 0:30:36.540 of the Bible did is it included verses of the 0:30:36.540 --> 0:30:39.940 Bible that really weren't in there, that were like added 0:30:39.940 --> 0:30:43.260 by scribes or monks who were copying the Bible to 0:30:43.300 --> 0:30:47.340 clarify things or something like that. And so what what 0:30:47.380 --> 0:30:49.700 most modern versions are trying to do is use the 0:30:49.700 --> 0:30:53.540 earliest and the best manuscripts and making decisions based on that, 0:30:53.540 --> 0:30:56.340 and that's what those brackets are there for. So to 0:30:56.380 --> 0:30:59.100 let us know that they weren't part of the original Bible, 0:30:59.140 --> 0:31:02.220 as best we can tell. Okay, so. 0:31:02.220 --> 0:31:05.420 So is it still okay to glean stuff from those, 0:31:05.460 --> 0:31:08.580 or would you just avoid those for a personal devotional 0:31:08.620 --> 0:31:09.300 type of thing? 0:31:10.260 --> 0:31:19.420 Uh, you know. I don't know. Uh, you know, it depends, uh, 0:31:19.420 --> 0:31:21.990 on the person, I think. I don't know what the 0:31:21.990 --> 0:31:25.750 what the best answer is. I tend to be. I 0:31:25.830 --> 0:31:27.750 studied it a little bit more about this, and I'm 0:31:27.750 --> 0:31:33.710 aware of passages that are questionable, and I don't think 0:31:33.710 --> 0:31:36.950 they're necessarily part of the scriptures, but other people might 0:31:36.950 --> 0:31:38.630 think they are, so it doesn't hurt to read them. 0:31:38.630 --> 0:31:41.470 It's not going to be bad. There's nothing terrible in 0:31:41.470 --> 0:31:44.470 those verses that would hurt you. So. 0:31:45.190 --> 0:31:48.350 Okay. All right. Thank you for that question. Our next 0:31:48.350 --> 0:31:53.230 question is from Margaret in Illinois. She listens to WNBA. 0:31:53.790 --> 0:31:56.110 Thank you to your crew and you for taking the 0:31:56.110 --> 0:31:59.630 time to answer our questions regarding God's promises. How do 0:31:59.630 --> 0:32:02.910 I know which promises are directed to Israel and those 0:32:02.910 --> 0:32:07.590 that can be, um, extrapolated to followers of Jesus? 0:32:09.750 --> 0:32:15.470 Well, that's that's not an easy I mean, it's there 0:32:15.510 --> 0:32:18.190 are verses that you just have to read them in context. 0:32:20.430 --> 0:32:29.030 That's the most famous being Jeremiah 2911. Right. That's that's 0:32:29.030 --> 0:32:33.990 a good one to let's to talk about a particular verse. Uh, 0:32:33.990 --> 0:32:37.110 Jeremiah 2911 I know the plans I have for you. 0:32:37.110 --> 0:32:39.750 This is the Lord's declaration, plans for your welfare, not 0:32:39.750 --> 0:32:43.470 for disaster, to give you a future and a hope. Now, obviously, 0:32:43.990 --> 0:32:47.110 that's a wonderful verse, but if you read the verse 0:32:47.110 --> 0:32:50.390 before it, reading it in context, it says, this is 0:32:50.390 --> 0:32:53.630 what the Lord says. When 70 years for Babylon are complete, 0:32:53.630 --> 0:32:56.350 I will attend to you and will confirm my promise 0:32:56.350 --> 0:32:59.950 concerning you to restore you to this place. Clearly, he 0:32:59.950 --> 0:33:02.870 is saying that Israel is going to go into captivity 0:33:02.870 --> 0:33:08.590 for 70 years, and then they're going to come back. And, uh, 0:33:08.590 --> 0:33:11.270 and so he's obviously the I know the plans I 0:33:11.270 --> 0:33:16.150 have for you are the plans for Israel. So, I mean, 0:33:16.150 --> 0:33:19.480 clearly that's what the verse is about. That's what its 0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:24.280 meaning is. But then, isn't everything applicable? And I think 0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.560 it is. Why does Israel go into captivity? Because God 0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:31.720 is going to discipline them. And the principle is that 0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:36.120 God is disciplining them, but he's going to restore them. 0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:39.040 And when he restores them, it's with a good plan. 0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:45.720 And I think that similarly, when we experience spiritual discipline 0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.680 from God, we can be assured that God still has 0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.760 a good plan for us in in our lives, that 0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:53.920 he has a good plan to give us a future 0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.400 and a hope. So if we put it in context 0:33:56.400 --> 0:34:00.120 and take a principle from that and apply the principle 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:03.960 to our lives, then it's for us as well. But 0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:07.479 the meaning is about Israel. But the principle can be 0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:10.200 applied to us as well. Does that make sense? 0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:12.440 Yeah, yeah it does. 0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:16.160 Yeah. So I think one of the things that we 0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.609 need to learn is to Is to read if we're 0:34:18.610 --> 0:34:21.089 going to be good Bible readers. First of all, we 0:34:21.090 --> 0:34:24.410 need to read things in context and understand what they mean. 0:34:25.530 --> 0:34:28.810 But then secondly, not only understand what they mean, but 0:34:28.850 --> 0:34:32.489 see how they can be applied by finding the the 0:34:32.489 --> 0:34:36.770 governing principle, the the the the true principle of the passage. 0:34:36.930 --> 0:34:39.690 And then we can apply it. So that's what I 0:34:39.690 --> 0:34:41.290 think we need to do. Okay. 0:34:41.290 --> 0:34:44.609 All right. Thank you. Uh, next question is from Kristen 0:34:45.090 --> 0:34:47.649 wants to know concerning the book of Job, how is 0:34:47.650 --> 0:34:50.850 Satan able to speak to God? I thought that God 0:34:50.850 --> 0:34:52.890 couldn't be in the presence of evil. 0:34:54.770 --> 0:34:58.489 Well, then I could never set foot in his presence, right? 0:34:58.530 --> 0:35:03.490 It seems like to me, uh, you know, the idea 0:35:03.489 --> 0:35:09.490 that God is immanent. He's everywhere. There's evil everywhere. He's 0:35:09.489 --> 0:35:13.009 he's transcendent and immanent at the same time, which is 0:35:13.010 --> 0:35:17.340 hard for us to grasp. Uh, immanent, not meaning about 0:35:17.340 --> 0:35:21.700 to come, but imminent with an A I'm m a 0:35:22.260 --> 0:35:28.819 that means present everywhere. Uh, so, uh, I just don't think. 0:35:28.820 --> 0:35:32.219 I think this is this is the the easy answer. 0:35:32.500 --> 0:35:34.380 How did he say it? I thought God couldn't be 0:35:34.380 --> 0:35:39.380 in the presence of evil, right? Well, apparently wrong. Uh, 0:35:39.380 --> 0:35:43.540 that's not what the Bible says. Uh, God is not 0:35:43.540 --> 0:35:47.940 stained by our evil. Uh, and he's everywhere. So he 0:35:48.540 --> 0:35:51.180 he's in my. I'm in his presence. And I certainly 0:35:51.180 --> 0:35:54.900 don't deserve to be there. So, so so how was. 0:35:54.940 --> 0:35:57.420 I mean, did Satan just have free access to God? 0:35:57.460 --> 0:35:59.620 Does he still. Do we know? Well, he. 0:35:59.620 --> 0:36:02.460 Was cast out. There's various times where he's cast out 0:36:02.460 --> 0:36:05.580 of heaven. And, uh, but this was a gathering in 0:36:05.580 --> 0:36:09.420 in Jobe where the where the angels were gathered before him. 0:36:09.540 --> 0:36:13.339 I don't know for what reason, what time, but, uh, 0:36:13.340 --> 0:36:15.899 he was a fallen angel, and he was there in 0:36:15.900 --> 0:36:19.500 the presence of God. Part of that and he taunted 0:36:19.500 --> 0:36:23.700 God as well. So but the presumption we have always 0:36:23.700 --> 0:36:25.740 is that God can't be in the presence of Satan. 0:36:25.780 --> 0:36:28.540 Satan can't be in the presence of God. And I'm 0:36:28.540 --> 0:36:32.300 not sure why we presume that it's God is completely sinless. 0:36:32.300 --> 0:36:39.219 He's not affected by our evil. So he's pure and righteous. So, yeah. Anyway, uh, anyway, 0:36:39.219 --> 0:36:41.940 we're going to we're going to break here. All right. Uh, 0:36:42.020 --> 0:36:44.259 when we, uh, when we come back, we'll take more 0:36:44.260 --> 0:36:50.020 of your calls. (877) 548-3675. You're listening to Open Line. And 0:36:50.020 --> 0:36:54.580 thank you for the Febc mailbag for writing in. And Tricia, 0:36:54.580 --> 0:36:57.379 thanks for putting that together. That was Tricia McMillan. I'm Michael, 0:36:57.900 --> 0:37:00.380 and I'll be right back with more of your questions 0:37:00.780 --> 0:37:21.270 straight ahead. Welcome back to Open Line. I'm so glad 0:37:21.270 --> 0:37:23.669 to be with you today. Having a great time. Thank 0:37:23.670 --> 0:37:26.669 you so much for listening. Monday is a serious day. 0:37:26.670 --> 0:37:32.350 It's the International Holocaust Remembrance Day. It's significant because it's 0:37:32.350 --> 0:37:36.870 the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz. And my family, 0:37:36.870 --> 0:37:39.350 both my parents were Holocaust survivors. I'm glad that we 0:37:39.350 --> 0:37:43.510 are reminded because there are people who actually don't believe 0:37:43.510 --> 0:37:47.670 that the Holocaust happened. But it did. And it's important 0:37:47.670 --> 0:37:50.390 that we remember one of the things that Chosen People 0:37:50.390 --> 0:37:52.709 Ministries has done is they've put together a book called 0:37:52.710 --> 0:37:56.110 Never Again The Holocaust Remembered. 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Also, I wanted to let you know 0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:35.440 that when you go to our web page, Open Line radio.org, 0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:38.120 if you scroll down all the way, you'll see that 0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.040 there's a link to my personal web page. And if 0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.600 you got to go there, you'll see that I'll be 0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:47.759 doing some, uh, events that people might be interested in 0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.480 some traveling. And if you'd like to join me for 0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:54.080 a Bible study on a boat and different things like that, uh, check. 0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:58.520 Click on that link at the bottom of the open 0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:02.520 line page. We're going to talk to Ron in Moline, Illinois, 0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:05.480 listening on Wwdm. Welcome to Open Line, Ron. 0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:06.480 How can I help you? 0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:10.920 Good morning. Good morning sir. Thank you for taking my call. Um, 0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:14.680 I enjoy reading literature outside of the Bible when it 0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:19.040 relates to, you know, Christianity. ET cetera, et cetera. And 0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.719 I've been watching this series called So Be It. It's 0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:27.040 a YouTube series about a young Jewish man that turned, uh, 0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:30.319 to Christianity. Uh, he goes to Israel in the Middle 0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.520 East and talks to Jews who do not believe. Yeah. 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:35.040 I'm sorry. Just just go ahead with. 0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:37.320 Your question, because we're at the end of the program. 0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:37.600 So. 0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:41.040 Oh, sorry. Okay. So is there any reason why I 0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:43.640 should not read the Jewish Bible? I think they referred 0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:47.719 to it as the Tanach because it talks about. Go ahead. 0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:48.280 I'm sorry. 0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:54.760 The Tanakh is just, uh, it's an acronym, uh, for 0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:59.600 its three words Torah Nevi'im Ketuvim. Torah is the law 0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.280 of Moses, the first five books of the Bible. Nevi'im 0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:05.960 are the prophets that goes from Joshua to the end 0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:12.089 of the prophets. Uh, the 12 prophets. And then, uh, 0:40:12.090 --> 0:40:16.330 then it's got the ketuvim, it's the writings, and it's 0:40:16.330 --> 0:40:18.529 just a word that takes the three sections of the 0:40:18.530 --> 0:40:20.969 Hebrew Bible and makes them into one. And that's what 0:40:20.969 --> 0:40:23.569 the Tanakh is. It's just the Old Testament, basically. 0:40:23.810 --> 0:40:25.810 Oh, okay. So it's okay to read it. 0:40:25.850 --> 0:40:26.810 Correct. Yeah. 0:40:26.810 --> 0:40:30.009 It's it's great to read. Yeah, that's what it is. 0:40:30.050 --> 0:40:32.930 It's just a just a word that's been put together 0:40:32.930 --> 0:40:36.410 from the three sections of the Old Testament. The Torah, Nevi'im, 0:40:36.410 --> 0:40:40.810 Ketuvim law, prophets, writings. Thanks for your call, Ron. Keep reading. 0:40:41.050 --> 0:40:43.290 That's great. Okay, thanks. 0:40:43.969 --> 0:40:48.569 Uh, we're going to talk to Al in Lakeland, Florida, 0:40:49.130 --> 0:40:52.210 listening on Wcas. How can I help you, al? 0:40:52.930 --> 0:40:55.850 Hey. Thank you doctor. I've been trying to get in 0:40:55.890 --> 0:40:56.930 for years. 0:40:56.969 --> 0:40:57.450 Oh, great. 0:40:57.489 --> 0:41:02.170 I have a question. Uh, Jesus died, and he rose again. 0:41:02.650 --> 0:41:07.090 So did Lazarus. He rose again. So did, uh, the prophet. 0:41:07.290 --> 0:41:11.460 I can't in the New Testament. Other people rose again. Why? 0:41:11.460 --> 0:41:14.140 It's such a great significance. Some people don't get saved 0:41:14.180 --> 0:41:17.739 because I believe Jesus rose again. I mean, I'm glad 0:41:17.739 --> 0:41:20.299 he died for our sins. I'm not speaking in a 0:41:20.300 --> 0:41:24.100 negative term. Why? Why they don't put emphasis on other 0:41:24.100 --> 0:41:26.739 people that rose again. I mean, Jesus, I know you. 0:41:26.739 --> 0:41:28.220 There's there's something. 0:41:28.219 --> 0:41:32.540 Different about the resurrection of Jesus. Uh, number one, uh, 0:41:32.540 --> 0:41:35.420 the Lord Jesus died as a substitution. All the other 0:41:35.420 --> 0:41:37.779 people that you're talking about did not die as as 0:41:37.780 --> 0:41:42.779 a substitutionary death. He didn't. There was no vicarious substitutionary death. 0:41:42.780 --> 0:41:51.140 And then secondly, uh, he he said that he would 0:41:51.140 --> 0:41:54.420 be raised from the dead. No one else ever predicted 0:41:54.420 --> 0:41:56.740 that after three days, he would be raised from the dead. 0:41:56.739 --> 0:41:59.620 Only the Lord Jesus kept saying that he was God 0:41:59.620 --> 0:42:02.460 in the flesh, that he would die and would be 0:42:02.460 --> 0:42:06.739 raised from the dead after three days. And so he 0:42:06.739 --> 0:42:10.180 predicted it. That's something that's different as well. And then thirdly, 0:42:10.340 --> 0:42:16.140 his resurrection was different. Everyone else that was raised was raised, uh, 0:42:16.140 --> 0:42:19.420 and would have to die again because they were not 0:42:19.420 --> 0:42:22.740 raised to glory. But the Lord Jesus was raised into 0:42:22.780 --> 0:42:27.660 his immortal immortal state. He was given his glorified body. Uh, 0:42:27.660 --> 0:42:29.660 and that's why he is the first fruit of the 0:42:29.660 --> 0:42:34.020 resurrection for us. That's that's what makes his resurrection so 0:42:34.020 --> 0:42:39.100 distinctively different. Okay. Uh, thanks for your call. Al. Appreciate it. 0:42:39.140 --> 0:42:45.980 We're going to talk to Christine in Fort Myers, Florida. Uh, listening, uh, 0:42:45.980 --> 0:42:48.860 on maybe the on the web. How can I help you? Christine? 0:42:49.620 --> 0:42:52.700 Um, thank you for your program. I really like it, 0:42:52.940 --> 0:42:56.580 and I enjoy it. If someone divorced and remarried, would 0:42:56.580 --> 0:42:57.380 you go to hell? 0:42:59.940 --> 0:43:01.420 What? Say again. Please. 0:43:01.540 --> 0:43:07.710 Okay. Um. Matthew 18. Talk about divorce. If someone divorced 0:43:07.710 --> 0:43:11.510 and remarried, should they go to hell for that? 0:43:11.750 --> 0:43:14.430 If someone divorces and remarries, should they go to hell? 0:43:14.469 --> 0:43:17.350 The reason we go to hell is we're separated from 0:43:17.350 --> 0:43:20.710 God because of our sin. If a person trusts in Jesus, 0:43:20.710 --> 0:43:23.549 whatever their sins, if they believe that Jesus died for 0:43:23.550 --> 0:43:26.430 those sins and rose again, if they put their trust 0:43:26.430 --> 0:43:29.189 in him, we're forgiven of our sins and we won't 0:43:29.190 --> 0:43:34.110 go to hell. There is no one particular sin that 0:43:34.150 --> 0:43:36.350 will cause us to go to hell. 0:43:37.830 --> 0:43:38.790 Okay. 0:43:38.830 --> 0:43:39.029 Okay. 0:43:39.030 --> 0:43:39.670 Thank you. Okay. 0:43:39.989 --> 0:43:42.709 Okay. Thanks for your call. Uh, we're going to talk 0:43:42.710 --> 0:43:48.630 to Jean in Lamont, Illinois. Hello, Jean. Jean, are you there? 0:43:48.670 --> 0:43:49.030 Hi. 0:43:49.550 --> 0:43:50.510 Hi. Are you there? 0:43:51.110 --> 0:43:52.549 Yeah. How can I help you? 0:43:52.750 --> 0:43:58.190 Um, what do you say to scholar biblical scholars who 0:43:58.230 --> 0:44:01.230 maintain that the New Testament was not necessarily written by 0:44:01.230 --> 0:44:03.870 the people who the books are attributed to. 0:44:05.150 --> 0:44:06.600 That would include the Gospels. 0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:09.360 You know, maybe that's one of the reasons why I 0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:13.920 don't like being called a scholar by some people because, uh, 0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:19.080 you know, there's there's always critical people who will say that, 0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:24.360 you know, scholars say, and, and, uh, so, you know, 0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:27.000 I think the best evidence, there are also scholars who 0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:32.720 disagree with those scholars. So there you go. Uh, the. 0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:35.319 Uh. 0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:39.480 The New Testament introduction. There are evangelical authors who have 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:45.160 given great defenses for the accuracy and truthfulness of those, uh, 0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:48.560 authorship and things like that. And so, uh, you know, 0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:51.239 it's just some people say yay! And some people say, no. 0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:53.759 I know I see in your question that you mentioned 0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:57.920 Bart Ehrman, who's a famous scholar from North Carolina who 0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:02.239 has denied those things. Uh, well, he debated Dan Wallace. 0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:05.010 And you can find those debates on YouTube and you'll 0:45:05.010 --> 0:45:07.650 see how another scholar would respond to that. I mean, 0:45:07.850 --> 0:45:11.170 there are good answers in response. Dan Wallace was a 0:45:11.170 --> 0:45:13.969 great New Testament professor at Dallas, just retired. Great New 0:45:13.969 --> 0:45:17.210 Testament scholar, has a good enough answer for that. 0:45:17.330 --> 0:45:23.569 So I presume that you disagree with Bart Ehrman's positions, then? 0:45:23.610 --> 0:45:25.450 Yeah, we went to Moody at the same time, believe 0:45:25.450 --> 0:45:27.570 it or not. But he kind of wandered away from 0:45:27.570 --> 0:45:30.450 what we were teaching at at Moody. Uh, we were 0:45:30.450 --> 0:45:36.049 students at the same time. Uh, but, uh, Donald Guthrie, 0:45:36.050 --> 0:45:40.610 there's a great big fat book called New Testament Introduction 0:45:40.730 --> 0:45:44.729 by Donald Guthrie that gives the evidence. And it's it's 0:45:44.730 --> 0:45:47.290 an academic book. It's really it'd be a challenge for 0:45:47.290 --> 0:45:51.770 someone to read, uh, you know, stuff we read when 0:45:51.770 --> 0:45:54.930 I was. Yeah, when I was in graduate school. It's 0:45:54.930 --> 0:45:57.890 a book I read for a course in New Testament introduction, 0:45:57.890 --> 0:46:02.290 but it gives the case for the, uh, the scholarly 0:46:02.410 --> 0:46:08.090 Basis for believing the traditional views of the books. So anyway, 0:46:08.530 --> 0:46:10.290 I you know, I appreciate it. I wouldn't worry too 0:46:10.290 --> 0:46:12.530 much about what the critics say. Just keep reading the Bible. 0:46:12.530 --> 0:46:14.489 You're going to really benefit from it. 0:46:14.489 --> 0:46:15.170 Okay, Gene, your. 0:46:15.170 --> 0:46:19.290 Opinion on if you thought that the authors were those 0:46:19.489 --> 0:46:20.050 of the Bible. 0:46:20.090 --> 0:46:23.490 Yeah, I do think they're the right authors. Yep, I do, 0:46:23.530 --> 0:46:27.090 I'm very traditional. Thanks for your call. That's the program 0:46:27.090 --> 0:46:29.009 for the week. We'll be back next week with more 0:46:29.010 --> 0:46:31.410 of your calls and questions about the Bible, God and 0:46:31.410 --> 0:46:36.410 the spiritual, uh, spiritual life. Uh, we're going to check 0:46:36.410 --> 0:46:38.770 out our web page, Open Line radio.org. You'll see what's 0:46:38.810 --> 0:46:41.529 going on. See all the things that are there. Keep 0:46:41.530 --> 0:46:44.810 reading the Bible and we'll talk about it next week. 0:46:45.410 --> 0:46:48.450 Open line with Doctor Michael Melnick is a production of 0:46:48.489 --> 0:46:52.730 Moody Radio, a ministry of Moody Bible Institute. And we'll 0:46:52.730 --> 0:46:53.770 see you next week.