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The president won a pledge. 41 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,080 S4: Americans worshiping government over God. 42 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,800 S3: Extremely rare safety move by a major 17 years. 43 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,880 S5: The Palestinians and Israelis negotiated. 44 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,520 S6: It is not. 45 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,160 S3: Hi, friends. 46 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,640 S1: Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall. Boy, am 47 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,120 S1: I glad we get to spend the hour together. And hello, 48 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,160 S1: was history made over the weekend or not? We woke 49 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,000 S1: up Saturday morning, turned on the news as is our pattern. 50 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,919 S1: And boom, just like that, I looked at my sweet 51 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,040 S1: husband and said, well, Israel and the United States are 52 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,040 S1: working together to eradicate the evil regime of Iran. And boy, 53 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,919 S1: we were super glued for the next 48 hours and 54 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,519 S1: have been ever since. Because the events are happening in 55 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,720 S1: short order. So much has been done so far to 56 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,360 S1: now eliminate that evil regime of. There are over 40 57 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,080 S1: plus key leaders that have been eliminated, including but not 58 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,880 S1: limited to the Ayatollah Khomeini himself, who now, after worshiping 59 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,720 S1: a false God, understands who the true God is. And sadly, 60 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,120 S1: there are no second chances. I think it's very fortuitous 61 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,359 S1: that we're going to be talking with Doctor Michael Melnick 62 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,320 S1: this hour, Because at sundown, tonight begins the feast of Purim. Now, 63 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,799 S1: Purim commemorates the narrow escape of the entire Jewish people, 64 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,200 S1: from the threat of annihilation and the courage of Queen Esther, 65 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,480 S1: who bravely stood up for her people. In fact, the 66 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,760 S1: word Perin means lots, due to the method that wicked 67 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,440 S1: Haman used to decide the date that they would wipe 68 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,960 S1: out the Jewish people in the provinces of Persia. So 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,120 S1: get this. So that tells me now when you understand 70 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,359 S1: that Esther helped set her people free, and King Xerxes 71 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,440 S1: says yes. And the gallows that was being built by 72 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,600 S1: this demonic man, Haman, end up becoming his tool of 73 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,000 S1: capital punishment. He swings from the gallows. And so, in 74 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,400 S1: some respects, it's the bravery of Queen Esther. It is 75 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,280 S1: the allowance of a Persian king that the Jewish people 76 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,840 S1: are set free. Hmm. Think about that. Nothing new under 77 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,640 S1: the sun, said the writer of Ecclesiastes. So a Persian 78 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,000 S1: king helps to set the Jews free, and the Jews 79 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,080 S1: now are helping to set the Persians free. What a 80 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,880 S1: day to be alive! And what a day to walk 81 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,920 S1: through life with the Bible in one hand and the 82 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,920 S1: newspaper in the other. Doctor Michael Rudnick is our guest 83 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,360 S1: this hour. Professor emeritus of Jewish studies and Bible at 84 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,240 S1: Moody Bible Institute. He's also the host of Open Line 85 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,520 S1: with Doctor Michael Rudnick, which is heard on hundreds of 86 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,080 S1: stations all across the country. A prolific author and someone 87 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,360 S1: I turn to very often to say, what does the 88 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,880 S1: Bible say about Israel? In fact, to that end, he's 89 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,760 S1: written a wonderful little book that every single one of 90 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,000 S1: us should have. In fact, may I suggest you buy 91 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,720 S1: ten copies? Not one. Because if Michael and I were 92 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,400 S1: to tell you about all the hate mail we've gotten 93 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,480 S1: recently because of our continuous, let the record reflect this 94 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,600 S1: wasn't a Damascus Road perspective on either of our parts. 95 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,160 S1: We've been pro-Israel probably since the day we accepted the 96 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,360 S1: Lord as our personal savior. Not hard. You read the book. 97 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,680 S1: You understand your Savior was Jewish. You understand he's the 98 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,200 S1: fulfillment of the law. You understand without the Old Testament, 99 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,440 S1: there'd be the New Testament. Kind of hard to dislike 100 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,560 S1: the Jewish people. And in 1948, I wasn't alive then. 101 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,320 S1: But I have to tell you, my friend Anne Graham 102 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,159 S1: Lotz will tell you without blush, embarrassment or Her hesitation. 103 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,279 S1: It was an awe inspiring moment for believers who understand 104 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,279 S1: the prophetic aspect of God's Word, because that was nothing 105 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,320 S1: more and nothing less than the fulfillment of prophecy. And yet, 106 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,120 S1: I'll tell you what else is happening. That's the fulfillment 107 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,919 S1: of what we read in the scriptures, this unabashed hatred 108 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,840 S1: toward the Jewish people. So you need to get. How 109 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,000 S1: should Christians think about Israel? A wonderful book that was 110 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,679 S1: written immediately as a quick response to help God's people 111 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:24,880 S1: understand about covenant theology and replacement theology. And they're not Jews, 112 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,320 S1: you know. In fact, I got an email this week, Michael, 113 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,480 S1: that said that Benjamin Netanyahu is Polish. He shouldn't even 114 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,080 S1: be considered Jewish. It's palpable ignorance. And one of the 115 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,320 S1: reasons why, my dear friend, I am so grateful you 116 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,839 S1: come on a regular basis and teach us because we 117 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,000 S1: are people in need of an education. So we've got 118 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,880 S1: so much to talk about before we dive into Purim. 119 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,320 S1: Talk to me about you. You're, I'm sure, observing the Sabbath. 120 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,039 S1: And all of a sudden, when you finally got back 121 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,599 S1: into the technology that's out there, you realized, oh, boy, 122 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,760 S1: things are changing. And I was thinking and praying for 123 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,040 S1: you this weekend. Well, because you've got family. There's connections 124 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:57,919 S1: over there for you. 125 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,840 S7: Yes. Well, you know, I woke up early. I'm getting 126 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,119 S7: ready to go on open line on Shabbat. That's true. 127 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,880 S7: Holy work. You know, uh, I have a friend who's 128 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,320 S7: a rabbi who questioned me doing this program on Saturday 129 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,560 S7: mornings on Open Line on Moody Radio, and I asked 130 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,480 S7: him what he does on Saturdays, and he said, well, 131 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,640 S7: he preaches and he does all these different things, leads worship. 132 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,680 S7: And I said, well, that's that's worked. How is it 133 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,200 S7: that you do that? And he said, well, it's holy work. 134 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,680 S7: I said, you know, I'm speaking to hundreds of thousands 135 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,720 S7: of people on the radio about God's Word. Don't you 136 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,120 S7: think that's holy work, too? He said, okay. 137 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,760 S1: So so he looked up one of the 14,000 rabbis 138 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,120 S1: that had a thing or two to say about a 139 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,960 S1: thing or two, and he said, you're absolved. 140 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,480 S7: Yeah. I'm okay. So but anyway, I was getting ready 141 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,120 S7: for this, but my phone blew up, actually, in the 142 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,200 S7: middle of the night. Um, a dear friend of ours 143 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,640 S7: in Israel. She was Eva's next door neighbor at Moody 144 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:58,600 S7: Bible Institute. 145 00:06:58,640 --> 00:06:59,279 S1: Oh, wow. 146 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:04,000 S7: Uh, and she has served her whole life as a nurse, uh, 147 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,000 S7: in Israel. And now she's retired. But she was in 148 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,320 S7: the bomb shelter sending out updates, and that's when my 149 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,320 S7: my phone blew up. And, of course, it was about, 150 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,880 S7: I don't know, two in the morning, I guess that 151 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,760 S7: I realized it and I started I got up in 152 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,280 S7: the middle of the night, and that's when I began 153 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,480 S7: to see what was going on, uh, in the news. 154 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,160 S7: And I immediately became concerned for my family, grateful to 155 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,840 S7: God that they have bunkers, that they can go to 156 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,560 S7: bomb shelters and their homes. Uh, and, uh, also, there 157 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,840 S7: are many of my former students at Moody that live 158 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,920 S7: in Israel. Um, and of course, they started sending texts 159 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,400 S7: out Whatsapps uh, to that's what we use in Israel, 160 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,760 S7: you know, WhatsApp and, uh, got a bunch of notes 161 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,559 S7: from them, one in particular, who was sort of a 162 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,440 S7: surrogate daughter for us. Uh, she was keeping us informed 163 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,960 S7: of what was going in with her kids in the shelter, and, uh, 164 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,640 S7: it's it's it's nerve wracking. But here's what I'll tell 165 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,240 S7: you about everyone in Israel is they. No one's saying, oh, 166 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,840 S7: why is this happening? They they're from left to right. 167 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:19,720 S7: Everyone is. And even the opposition parties, those who cannot 168 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,720 S7: stand the prime minister, uh, they're all united behind this 169 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,720 S7: because they think it's so important because of of the threat, uh, 170 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,480 S7: the complete threat that that, uh, the existential threat that 171 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,600 S7: Iran is to Israel. But I don't believe that's why 172 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,440 S7: the United States is involved. For all the people out 173 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:43,640 S7: there saying, oh, the United States is doing Israel's bidding. Uh, 174 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,839 S7: and I, I think it's important that we talk about 175 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,679 S7: why the United States is involved in this. 176 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,360 S1: Yeah, absolutely. Michael, I said it to you when you 177 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,719 S1: and I were communicating over the weekend. God is my 178 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,520 S1: executive producer. He knew what was going to happen in 179 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,720 S1: the annals of human history. I had no idea when 180 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,800 S1: you and I set our regular time together, that this 181 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,160 S1: would be such a crucial day in world history, in 182 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,640 S1: Iranian history and Jewish history, and quite frankly, in American 183 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,600 S1: history as well. And all of this as Purim begins 184 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,600 S1: at sundown tonight. Oh, doctor Michael Rudnick is with us. 185 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,320 S1: Bible in one hand, newspaper in the other, particularly in 186 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:41,240 S1: this chapter of history. Back after this. How does our 187 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,880 S1: view of God get distorted? Do you struggle with feeling 188 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,760 S1: close to God? Well, that's why I've chosen secure how 189 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,120 S1: to have a healthy attachment to God. As this month's 190 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,760 S1: truth tool, discover how to counter the lies about the 191 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,000 S1: truth of God's character. Ask for your copy of secure. 192 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,560 S1: When you give a gift of any amount to in 193 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:02,440 S1: the market, call eight 7758. That's eight 7758 or go 194 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,840 S1: to in the market with Janet Parshall for. 195 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:12,920 S8: A short time ago, the United States military began major 196 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:19,200 S8: combat operations in Iran. Our objective is to defend the 197 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:25,240 S8: American people by eliminating imminent threats from the Iranian regime. 198 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:32,640 S8: A vicious group of very hard, terrible people. Its menacing 199 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,800 S8: activities directly endanger the United States, our troops, our bases overseas, 200 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,280 S8: and our allies throughout the world. For 47 years, the 201 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,839 S8: Iranian regime has chanted Death to America and waged an 202 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:52,840 S8: unending campaign of bloodshed and mass murder targeting the United States, 203 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,520 S8: our troops and the innocent people in many, many countries. 204 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,679 S8: Among the regime's very first acts was to back a 205 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:05,360 S8: violent takeover of the US embassy in Tehran, holding dozens 206 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:12,359 S8: of American hostages for 444 days. In 1983, Iran's proxies 207 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,400 S8: carried out the marine barracks bombing in Beirut that killed 208 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:22,640 S8: 241 American military personnel in 2000. They knew and were 209 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:28,320 S8: probably involved with the attack on the USS Cole. Many died. 210 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,400 S8: Iranian forces killed and maimed hundreds of American service members 211 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,480 S8: in Iraq. The regime's proxies have continued to launch countless 212 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,720 S8: attacks against American forces stationed in the Middle East in 213 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,839 S8: recent years, as well as U.S. naval and commercial vessels 214 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:51,760 S8: in international shipping lanes. It's been mass terror and we're 215 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,880 S8: not going to put up with it any longer. 216 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,760 S1: Part of the president's address on Saturday, as he was talking, 217 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,840 S1: not just to the United States, but to the world, 218 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,240 S1: and in particular in the Middle East. And they heard 219 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,920 S1: it loud and clear. Doctor Michael Riedel is with us, 220 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,079 S1: professor emeritus of Jewish studies and Bible at Moody Bible Institute. 221 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,840 S1: He's the host of Open Line and the author of 222 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,440 S1: several books, including How Should Christians Think About Israel? A wonderful, 223 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,240 S1: small but to the point book that every single person 224 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,319 S1: should read because this is how you obliterate ignorance, and 225 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,760 S1: it's palpable out there about the nation of Israel, including Michael. 226 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,000 S1: Something you alluded to just before the break was that 227 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,840 S1: somehow we're responding to the beck and call of Israel. 228 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,200 S1: I'm glad I played that clip, because it's pointing out 229 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,160 S1: the United States has been under threat of the Islamic 230 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,319 S1: regime in Iran for quite some period of time. We 231 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,440 S1: remember the Iran hostage. I was old enough to remember 232 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,080 S1: that the Iran hostage situation coming down off the plane blindfolded. 233 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,440 S1: Jimmy Carter didn't resolve it. Reagan comes in, boom, the 234 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,600 S1: hostages come home, and the rest is history. but the 235 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,600 S1: blowing up of the the embassy in Beirut, Lebanon, which 236 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:56,120 S1: took American lives. So this isn't this is a destabilizing 237 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,000 S1: regime that needs to be toppled. He isn't that regime 238 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,199 S1: wasn't just a threat to the Middle East. It was 239 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,959 S1: a threat globally. And I think that's why, stunningly, we 240 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,120 S1: saw so many nations that responded, even Saudi Arabia allowing 241 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,440 S1: airspace for the takeoff of jets. And not only that, 242 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,800 S1: but how Iran hit so many of those entities as well. 243 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,880 S1: So break this down and again, get through the bigotry 244 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,559 S1: of anti-Semitism to get to the core of what's happening here. 245 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,520 S7: Well, the thing that's important to remember is that it's 246 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,600 S7: not just what Iran was doing in the past which 247 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,559 S7: which the president laid out. And any person could look 248 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,120 S7: that up, the freedom for the freedom for freedom, for 249 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,960 S7: the defense of democracy. And I guess that's what it is. 250 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,000 S7: They have a whole page on their website of every 251 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,320 S7: attack that Iran has through their proxies, for the most part, 252 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,760 S7: attacked the United States with all the soldiers in Iraq 253 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:53,760 S7: all those years, constantly being under attack by Iranian proxies. So, uh, 254 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,719 S7: they've done a lot of evil in the past. But today, well, 255 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,320 S7: it started last summer with the United States becoming involved 256 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:06,480 S7: in Israel's attack on the nuclear facilities that Iran had. 257 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,000 S7: They couldn't take them out. And, uh, they, they need 258 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,680 S7: for the really embedded deep down nuclear facilities than the 259 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,920 S7: United States had the bunker busters to do that, and 260 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,200 S7: the United States joined in. I was at, uh, Moody 261 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,640 S7: speaking at a conference, and one of the attenders said, 262 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,520 S7: we only got involved as the United States because Israel 263 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,560 S7: needed us to. And what I said to him holds 264 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:37,640 S7: true today. Iran has been working on ballistic missile technology. 265 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,160 S7: They first wanted to be able to reach their neighbors, 266 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,720 S7: then they wanted to reach Israel. Then they wanted to 267 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,280 S7: reach Europe. Now they want to develop a ballistic missile 268 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,440 S7: that can go across the ocean and reach the United 269 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,320 S7: States to hit Washington and to hit New York City 270 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,040 S7: and places like that. They are committed to advancing ballistic 271 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,920 S7: missile technology. And on top of that, to having a 272 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,880 S7: nuclear weapon. If they could mount a nuclear warhead on 273 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,160 S7: a ballistic missile that can reach Washington, I guarantee you 274 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,200 S7: that would be a terrible threat to the United States. 275 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,360 S7: And it is that which motivated the United States to 276 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,360 S7: get involved last June. It is that which gets. That's 277 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,520 S7: really gotten the attention of the current administration, because they 278 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,359 S7: will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon armed 279 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,000 S7: on top of a ballistic missile that could reach the 280 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,080 S7: United States. That is why they're going after ballistic missiles now. 281 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:39,440 S7: And why? And the ballistic missile factories and also the 282 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,440 S7: nuclear facilities will be attacked as well. 283 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,600 S1: Exactly, exactly. And not only that, but there's continuity here. 284 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,040 S1: If you've been you're paying attention. You know, one thing 285 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,040 S1: I've learned about my travels in the Middle East is 286 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,720 S1: that many in the Arab world are very, very patient. 287 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,560 S1: They're big on symbolism. They're very patient. And Americans, by 288 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,200 S1: the way, don't have long lasting attention spans. You know, 289 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,720 S1: 15 seconds today, Marco Rubio, when he was on the 290 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,200 S1: Hill addressing for I don't think it's the third time now, 291 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,080 S1: the Gang of Eight, which if you don't know what 292 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,000 S1: that means, those are people in Congress who are at 293 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,520 S1: a higher level for security clearance. And so he's giving 294 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,160 S1: them a briefing of what's going on. And then when 295 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,520 S1: he went to the press gaggle after he spoke, of course, 296 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,800 S1: it was how long is this going to last? How 297 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,880 S1: long is this going to last? You put your popcorn in, 298 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,320 S1: you get it out in two minutes. You know, you 299 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,480 S1: can get instant cash from the ATM and boom, let's 300 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,440 S1: go in and topple the regime that's been there for 301 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,560 S1: hundreds of years. So, you know, it's interesting. 302 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,760 S9: I was actually happy to see that. 303 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,880 S7: When, uh, General Kaine and Secretary Secretary Rubio laid out 304 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,680 S7: the goals, they didn't call for regime change. I know 305 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,200 S7: the president has they have the objective to to make 306 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:46,320 S7: this regime unable to strike America back at that conversation 307 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,240 S7: I had in October when the person raised this, I said, 308 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,640 S7: do you really think that Donald Trump is going to 309 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,240 S7: do what Israel wants? Uh, that's that's insane. 310 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,640 S1: The words you're fired come to mind, right? 311 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,440 S7: Exactly. He's going to do what he thinks we should 312 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:03,520 S7: do for America. 313 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:04,159 S3: For America's. 314 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,280 S1: Best interest. Exactly right. Now to the regime change. I 315 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,320 S1: certainly hope that happens. But as you said, the Secretary 316 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,000 S1: of State is not saying that it is going to 317 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,240 S1: be up to the Iranian people to fill this vacuum 318 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,000 S1: that is being created with the right person to lead 319 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,040 S1: them into the liberty they're so hungry for. So they're down, 320 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,080 S1: but they're not out in terms of the ayatollahs and 321 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,320 S1: the mullahs and the influence, they're much more to talk 322 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,760 S1: about with Doctor Michael Redlick. And again, we're going to 323 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,120 S1: get to Perm, because it's fascinating how history is repeating 324 00:17:32,119 --> 00:18:13,280 S1: itself in so many ways back after this. We're visiting 325 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,040 S1: with Doctor Michael Riedel. He is professor emeritus of Jewish 326 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:21,160 S1: studies at Moody Bible Institute and also professor emeritus of Bible. 327 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,720 S1: Wonderful author, host of Open Line, heard on hundreds of 328 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,360 S1: stations all across the country. And I'm so very grateful 329 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,560 S1: that he and I have a standing date every month 330 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,840 S1: to talk about. Well, how we look at the nation 331 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,080 S1: of Israel really goes to the heart of his book, 332 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,080 S1: How Should Christians Think about Israel? And this is very 333 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,440 S1: personal for Michael, again, by the way, because family and 334 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,000 S1: friends are very much located there. He was on his 335 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,000 S1: phone over the weekend trying to find out where people are. 336 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,360 S1: You know, it's I was hearing reports of people who 337 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,120 S1: all night long what would be Saturday night. Our time 338 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,760 S1: were in and out, in and out, in and out, 339 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,560 S1: maybe 2 or 3 hours at a time in the shelter, 340 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,560 S1: out of the shelter. And Shamrock got hit and there 341 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,040 S1: were some lives that were lost. But most of the 342 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,959 S1: time the intercepts have been absolutely fabulous. And I like 343 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,560 S1: what Marco Rubio said today. He said, if this is 344 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,400 S1: how Iran responds and they've shot now more than 500 345 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,680 S1: missiles when they're crippled, imagined to the point you made 346 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,800 S1: in the last segment, Michael, if now those missiles had 347 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,919 S1: ahead of a nuclear weapon, how absolutely devastated it would be. 348 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,720 S1: And it's why you get this immediate and rather interesting coalition, 349 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,880 S1: including Saudi Arabia, among others, that have said, no, you 350 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,040 S1: can use our airspace to do what you have to do. Um, 351 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,800 S1: there were several ships that Iran had in the water, 352 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,119 S1: and they were moving toward, particularly the Straits of Hormuz. 353 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,560 S1: They've all been eradicated. That is important because that affects 354 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,040 S1: energy around the world as well. So very unstable part 355 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,000 S1: of the world. And the interesting thing is that the 356 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,320 S1: majority of neighbors to Iran, even though they didn't act, 357 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,960 S1: they didn't do anything, were very happy to see this 358 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,280 S1: regime topple. But again, it's down, but it is not out. 359 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,480 S7: So I do think it's interesting. Uh, by the way, I, 360 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,480 S7: I have to correct something. I said, freedom for the 361 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,840 S7: Defense of democracies. It's the foundation for the defense of democracies. But, uh, 362 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,880 S7: a lot of times people think that the Saudis and the, uh, 363 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,600 S7: the other Gulf nations were joining in on this right 364 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,320 S7: from the get go. They weren't they were deliberately saying, no, 365 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,280 S7: you can't use our airspace. You cannot, uh, go here 366 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,640 S7: because they didn't want to get involved. And, of course, 367 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:28,120 S7: what Iran did is they began firing missiles at, uh, Oman, Saudi, Bahrain, 368 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,440 S7: places like that, Cyprus. And the reason they were doing 369 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:36,200 S7: that is they wanted those countries to say, America, please stop. Please. 370 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,080 S7: You know, uh, and what they did is they just 371 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,160 S7: got them angry now. They're now they're going to join 372 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,120 S7: in now. Uh, the Saudis are saying they're going to 373 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:50,360 S7: include their military in this attack. So, uh, it's it is, uh, 374 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:56,480 S7: they make terrible choices in Iran. Uh, it's it's their 375 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,480 S7: radical disposition that causes them to make the stupidest decisions 376 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,840 S7: because this is just going to bring more people against them. 377 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,920 S1: Well, and then you have tepid. May I be so bold? 378 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,160 S1: Weak leaders. Keir Starmer is a perfect example of this. Hey, 379 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,960 S1: he says we have nothing to do with this. Maybe 380 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,480 S1: that's because of the colonization, to use the words of 381 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,640 S1: my friend Ford Masri, that's happening in the UK when 382 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,840 S1: Islam is coming in and radically defining the UK. You 383 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,840 S1: can't have dogs, you can't put pork in your sandwiches. 384 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,280 S1: You've got multiple mayors now that are practicing Muslims. Um, 385 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,640 S1: you know, we're going to introduce Islamophobia in the parliament. 386 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,200 S1: The list goes on and on and on. And then 387 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,920 S1: you get Spain. That goes, absolutely no, you can't use 388 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,520 S1: any of our airspace. And then France being typically France 389 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,280 S1: doesn't say anything until boom, one of the French assets 390 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,960 S1: gets hit. And now Macron is saying, yeah, we're going 391 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:43,960 S1: to get involved as well. 392 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,520 S7: So Starmer, by the way, uh, after the British base 393 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,399 S7: in Cyprus was hit. Now now they are going to 394 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:57,240 S7: get involved. So, uh, it's amazing how when no matter 395 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,000 S7: what you say, I don't want to be involved. I 396 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,199 S7: don't want to be involved. Iran says we're going to 397 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,520 S7: push you to be involved. Exactly right thing to do. 398 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,240 S1: But they didn't play chess well because they did not 399 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,920 S1: expect that the reaction would be, oh, no, no, no, 400 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,720 S1: this just makes the United States point and Israel's point 401 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,840 S1: with elegance, by the way. And by the way, let 402 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,440 S1: me underscore what you said before. The US is not 403 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,679 S1: operating in the beck and call of Israel. Israel and 404 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,000 S1: the United States have tandem interests in this, the little 405 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,399 S1: Satan and the big Satan. And they have been going 406 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,080 S1: after us for quite some period of time. So I 407 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,119 S1: like what you said before about the Foundation for Defense 408 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,600 S1: of Democracies. They've got this long litany of events where Iran, 409 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,040 S1: in one way, shape or form, has been going after 410 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,149 S1: the United States and they simply cannot have nuclear capabilities. 411 00:22:40,150 --> 00:22:42,709 S1: And I think the timing was, well, it had to 412 00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:45,390 S1: be divine. But it also tells you something about the Intel. 413 00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:46,710 S1: You know, a lot of people in my town are 414 00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:48,710 S1: talking about, oh, it was a daytime strike. That's not 415 00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:50,790 S1: usually what happens. Well, they were all having breakfast in 416 00:22:50,790 --> 00:22:52,870 S1: the same room at the same time, which tells you 417 00:22:52,869 --> 00:22:56,590 S1: a little something about the Intel that Israel has that 418 00:22:56,590 --> 00:22:58,070 S1: they got them all in the same room at the 419 00:22:58,070 --> 00:23:00,670 S1: same time. Boom. The major leaders were wiped out. They 420 00:23:00,670 --> 00:23:03,430 S1: put in a new ayatollah, and within eight hours he 421 00:23:03,470 --> 00:23:06,750 S1: stepped into eternity as well. So, um, this and by 422 00:23:06,750 --> 00:23:08,470 S1: the way, I think it's important for us to understand 423 00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:11,070 S1: that we're going to have to pray for safety, for peace, 424 00:23:11,109 --> 00:23:15,070 S1: for protection, but for perseverance, because, uh, again, the president 425 00:23:15,070 --> 00:23:18,750 S1: today and Marco Rubio today saying we have our goals, 426 00:23:18,790 --> 00:23:20,910 S1: we'll be done when the goals are achieved and not 427 00:23:20,910 --> 00:23:23,470 S1: before then. So they're trying to tell the American people, 428 00:23:23,470 --> 00:23:25,469 S1: you might get instant cash out of an ATM, but 429 00:23:25,470 --> 00:23:28,070 S1: you don't get instant resolution in a situation like this. 430 00:23:28,109 --> 00:23:31,630 S1: It's been around, you know, the revolution took place in 1979, 431 00:23:31,630 --> 00:23:33,950 S1: so you've got decades now that you have to undo. 432 00:23:33,990 --> 00:23:38,350 S7: And there's concern, obviously, if there's a void, who fills 433 00:23:38,350 --> 00:23:41,070 S7: that void? Exactly. We we would love for it to 434 00:23:41,070 --> 00:23:44,350 S7: be as the Iranian people around the world. Persian people. 435 00:23:44,350 --> 00:23:47,390 S7: You can see them all over the world in London, 436 00:23:47,390 --> 00:23:51,470 S7: in Los Angeles, in New York, in all these great cities. 437 00:23:51,790 --> 00:23:56,470 S7: I saw a video of a mass gathering of all places, Vancouver, 438 00:23:56,470 --> 00:24:02,790 S7: British Columbia. They are celebrating the they're dancing. And we 439 00:24:02,790 --> 00:24:06,270 S7: had a Persian Iranian, an Iranian woman in my congregation 440 00:24:06,270 --> 00:24:09,110 S7: in New York and at parties. She used to do 441 00:24:09,109 --> 00:24:12,070 S7: this kind of Iranian dance. They're all doing it on 442 00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:16,070 S7: the streets. They're so joyous that their country will be liberated. 443 00:24:16,790 --> 00:24:18,909 S1: It has been so fun. I put a lot of 444 00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:21,430 S1: that video up on my X account over the weekend. 445 00:24:21,470 --> 00:24:24,190 S1: I saw it in Australia. I saw it in the Netherlands. 446 00:24:24,510 --> 00:24:26,709 S1: I saw it in the streets of England. I saw 447 00:24:26,750 --> 00:24:29,149 S1: in the streets of D.C. I mean, literally around the 448 00:24:29,150 --> 00:24:32,350 S1: world have been people saying, thank you, thank you, thank 449 00:24:32,350 --> 00:24:34,710 S1: you for setting us free. And they're cheering and dancing. 450 00:24:34,869 --> 00:24:37,790 S1: So now the old saying, so the Persians set the 451 00:24:37,790 --> 00:24:40,470 S1: Jews free thousands of years ago, and now the Jews 452 00:24:40,470 --> 00:24:42,830 S1: are working to set the Persians free. Which takes us 453 00:24:42,830 --> 00:24:45,230 S1: to Purim. Let's talk about that with Doctor Michael Redlich 454 00:24:45,230 --> 00:24:48,390 S1: when we return. Purim starts at sundown tonight. More after this. 455 00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:12,030 S1: We can all safely say that society seems to be 456 00:25:12,030 --> 00:25:14,869 S1: decaying before our eyes. And in the market, we're tackling 457 00:25:14,869 --> 00:25:17,590 S1: the issues head on from a biblical perspective, so you'll 458 00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:20,790 S1: know how to influence and occupy. A Scripture says become 459 00:25:20,790 --> 00:25:23,230 S1: a partial partner today and support in the market. As 460 00:25:23,230 --> 00:25:26,750 S1: a benefit, you'll receive exclusive resources every week prepared just 461 00:25:26,750 --> 00:25:31,070 S1: for you. Call 877 Janet 58 or go online to 462 00:25:31,109 --> 00:25:37,149 S1: In the market with Janet Parshall. These are the days 463 00:25:37,150 --> 00:25:40,070 S1: on which the Jews got relief from their enemies, and 464 00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:42,990 S1: the month that had been turned for them from sorrow 465 00:25:42,990 --> 00:25:46,270 S1: into gladness and from mourning into a holiday. And they 466 00:25:46,270 --> 00:25:49,350 S1: should make them days of feasting and gladness, days for 467 00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:52,109 S1: sending gifts of food to one another, and gifts to 468 00:25:52,150 --> 00:25:56,590 S1: the poor. Esther 922. That's not just a verse in Scripture. 469 00:25:56,590 --> 00:26:00,190 S1: Today is the beginning of that feast at sundown today. 470 00:26:00,350 --> 00:26:03,270 S1: Doctor Michael Rudnick is with us, professor emeritus of Jewish 471 00:26:03,270 --> 00:26:06,550 S1: studies and Bible at Moody Bible Institute, host of Open 472 00:26:06,550 --> 00:26:09,230 S1: Line with Doctor Michael Rudnick, heard all across the country 473 00:26:09,230 --> 00:26:12,310 S1: and a fabulous and very productive author for which we 474 00:26:12,350 --> 00:26:15,230 S1: are all the better for that, including what? How should 475 00:26:15,230 --> 00:26:17,350 S1: Christians think about Israel? I've got a link in my 476 00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:19,510 S1: info page. Please get a copy and I'm going to 477 00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:22,070 S1: be even bolder. Get ten. So when you've got family 478 00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:24,950 S1: and friends who really don't understand what the scriptures say, 479 00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:28,350 S1: who are would take their theology from CNN and miss 480 00:26:28,350 --> 00:26:31,190 S1: and all of the other alphabet soups out there, just 481 00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:33,350 S1: go to the Bible and find out what it has 482 00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:35,429 S1: to say, because that will clear you up once and 483 00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:37,670 S1: for all. So talk to me about Purim because this 484 00:26:37,670 --> 00:26:40,790 S1: is really a fascinating point in history. So you've got 485 00:26:40,790 --> 00:26:44,070 S1: this Jewish queen who's even told by her uncle, hey, 486 00:26:44,270 --> 00:26:46,790 S1: don't tell anybody you're Jewish. And in the meantime, this 487 00:26:46,790 --> 00:26:50,030 S1: evil Haman, if it isn't Hitler, if it isn't Hamas, 488 00:26:50,070 --> 00:26:52,510 S1: if it isn't Haman, it's always an h. It seems 489 00:26:52,510 --> 00:26:53,150 S1: to me. Hussein. 490 00:26:53,869 --> 00:26:54,669 S7: Hussein. Hussein. 491 00:26:54,670 --> 00:26:57,270 S1: Yeah, exactly. I don't get it. The H keeps showing 492 00:26:57,270 --> 00:26:57,830 S1: up all the time. 493 00:26:57,869 --> 00:26:59,470 S7: Hitler. Yeah. Hussein. 494 00:26:59,510 --> 00:27:00,109 S1: Exactly. 495 00:27:00,150 --> 00:27:02,429 S7: You got it. So I guess you have to say 496 00:27:02,830 --> 00:27:03,870 S7: Pharaoh or something. 497 00:27:05,550 --> 00:27:07,750 S1: That's because it's FF. That's right. So you could just 498 00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:09,869 S1: take the P off and say, Harold, and that doesn't work. 499 00:27:09,869 --> 00:27:11,949 S1: Never mind. That's it. So talk to me about Purim. 500 00:27:11,950 --> 00:27:14,429 S1: What is it? Tell me about from a Jewish perspective. 501 00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:16,629 S1: Tell me about this feast. Why did they make costumes? 502 00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:18,750 S1: What is the particular sweet that gets made? 503 00:27:18,950 --> 00:27:22,710 S7: Well, it's the it's the most fun of the Jewish 504 00:27:22,710 --> 00:27:28,870 S7: holidays in terms of celebrating the defeat of this genocidal maniac, 505 00:27:29,310 --> 00:27:33,470 S7: Haman or Haman, as we say in English. And you know, 506 00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:36,990 S7: so what do we do? We go to the synagogue 507 00:27:37,270 --> 00:27:40,870 S7: and we hear the Megillat Esther, the scroll of Esther read. 508 00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:43,869 S7: And what we do is we write the name Haman 509 00:27:43,910 --> 00:27:46,830 S7: on the soles of our shoes. And whenever his name 510 00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:52,510 S7: comes up, we stomp our feet. We children have, uh, groggers, uh, 511 00:27:52,510 --> 00:27:57,590 S7: noisemakers that they swing around and make loud noise. So. 512 00:27:57,630 --> 00:28:01,149 S7: So whenever Haman's name comes up, we blot out his 513 00:28:01,150 --> 00:28:05,070 S7: name by stomping our feet and making noise. Uh, and 514 00:28:05,109 --> 00:28:09,030 S7: it's kind of a wild way to listen to the Bible. Then, uh, 515 00:28:09,030 --> 00:28:13,030 S7: we also have Purim spiels plays where we reenact the 516 00:28:13,030 --> 00:28:15,190 S7: story of Esther, which is why people dress up. It's 517 00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:18,429 S7: part of the Purim spiel. We're all playing either Mordecai 518 00:28:18,430 --> 00:28:21,469 S7: or Esther. Hopefully no one is playing Haman. You know, 519 00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:22,830 S7: when I was a moody student, I got in a 520 00:28:22,869 --> 00:28:25,109 S7: lot of trouble because we, as a group of Jewish 521 00:28:25,109 --> 00:28:30,150 S7: studies students, did a Purim play in chapel. Uh, and 522 00:28:30,190 --> 00:28:32,790 S7: they said we were making light of Scripture, but that's 523 00:28:32,790 --> 00:28:36,429 S7: just what we do. Uh, it it was, you know, 524 00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:40,350 S7: we had Haman, like, a Snidely Whiplash character, and, uh, 525 00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:44,310 S7: the king had a Burger King crown, and, uh, the 526 00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:47,390 S7: royal seal was like a little seal that was, uh, 527 00:28:47,670 --> 00:28:50,430 S7: an animal, you know, a little stuffed animal. So we 528 00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:54,550 S7: made fun. But it was to celebrate God's deliverance. And 529 00:28:54,550 --> 00:28:57,270 S7: that's what's so great about this. It is a great celebration. 530 00:28:57,270 --> 00:29:00,830 S7: We eat special little treats in America. In Yiddish, we 531 00:29:00,830 --> 00:29:06,030 S7: use the Yiddish word hamantaschen. They're three cornered pastries with 532 00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:12,590 S7: like raspberry or peach jam in it, poppy seed. And then, uh, 533 00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:16,430 S7: those are eaten. And Hamantaschen refers to Haman hats. He 534 00:29:16,430 --> 00:29:19,110 S7: was supposed to have worn a three cornered hat in Israel. 535 00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:23,630 S7: They call him on Haman, which is, uh, Haman ears. 536 00:29:23,630 --> 00:29:26,709 S7: So apparently he had a three cornered ear, but, uh, 537 00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:29,870 S7: the the the point is, we eat these special treats. Uh, 538 00:29:29,870 --> 00:29:34,110 S7: we give gifts to each other by baskets of food 539 00:29:34,350 --> 00:29:37,070 S7: and kids. Even when I was a kid, we would 540 00:29:37,070 --> 00:29:39,950 S7: dress up and we would we would knock on doors 541 00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:42,710 S7: in our neighborhood because we lived in a very Jewish neighborhood. 542 00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:45,670 S7: Knock on the door. And then we would get, uh, 543 00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:48,590 S7: it was like. It was like, you've heard it may 544 00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:52,430 S7: have heard of Halloween. That's, uh. We were doing it first, 545 00:29:52,430 --> 00:29:56,470 S7: I think, uh, with with Purim. And, uh, that's what 546 00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:59,430 S7: we would do. We'd go door to door and get Purim, 547 00:29:59,470 --> 00:30:02,790 S7: little Purim gifts, candies and treats and things like that 548 00:30:02,790 --> 00:30:06,750 S7: from our neighbors. And, uh, it's it's just a really 549 00:30:06,750 --> 00:30:09,150 S7: fun time. In fact, the Talmud says, and this is 550 00:30:09,150 --> 00:30:12,150 S7: the only time that it authorizes people getting drunk. It 551 00:30:12,150 --> 00:30:15,790 S7: says on Purim, a person should get so drunk. I 552 00:30:15,790 --> 00:30:18,390 S7: don't believe in this. But this is what the Talmud says. 553 00:30:18,430 --> 00:30:20,150 S7: A person should get so drunk they don't know the 554 00:30:20,150 --> 00:30:24,030 S7: difference between blessed be Mordecai and cursed be Haman. And uh, 555 00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:28,150 S7: so it is a great celebration because of God's deliverance. 556 00:30:28,150 --> 00:30:30,630 S7: And that's the point. You know, the book of Esther. 557 00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:33,870 S7: I think that this is what's so crucial. People say, well, 558 00:30:33,910 --> 00:30:35,230 S7: it's not supposed to be in the Word of God. 559 00:30:35,270 --> 00:30:38,430 S7: It doesn't have the name of God. It's deliberate because 560 00:30:38,430 --> 00:30:41,710 S7: the Jewish people were in exile and they were neglecting God. 561 00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:45,790 S7: They had forgotten him. But God never forgot them. So 562 00:30:45,790 --> 00:30:49,230 S7: it's a literary device in this. It's the name of 563 00:30:49,230 --> 00:30:51,430 S7: God is never included in the Book of Esther, but 564 00:30:51,430 --> 00:30:54,430 S7: his fingerprints are all over it in Providence and him 565 00:30:54,430 --> 00:30:57,910 S7: working it all out. How Esther comes to the fore 566 00:30:57,910 --> 00:31:00,350 S7: to be the queen. How she's in that such a 567 00:31:00,390 --> 00:31:02,590 S7: in a place for such a time as this. And 568 00:31:02,590 --> 00:31:06,710 S7: I love what what, uh, Mordecai says to her, if 569 00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:08,910 S7: you think you can escape by living in the king's 570 00:31:08,910 --> 00:31:12,190 S7: house and not saying anything, you're mistaken. But then he says, 571 00:31:12,190 --> 00:31:15,990 S7: but liberation and deliverance will come to the Jewish people 572 00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:18,350 S7: from another place, because God is directing this. 573 00:31:18,390 --> 00:31:18,710 S1: Yes. 574 00:31:18,750 --> 00:31:21,430 S7: If you won't step up, he'll raise up someone else. 575 00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:24,670 S7: But it's a certainty that God's going to do this. 576 00:31:24,670 --> 00:31:29,630 S7: And so that's why we celebrate with with, uh, Purim 577 00:31:29,910 --> 00:31:32,630 S7: celebration of lots. That's what it's called. But here's something 578 00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:35,229 S7: that I noticed just yesterday when I was reading the 579 00:31:35,230 --> 00:31:41,110 S7: book of Esther in Esther 927, it says the Jews 580 00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:46,750 S7: bound themselves with their descendants and all their allies to 581 00:31:46,790 --> 00:31:49,550 S7: a commitment that they would not fail to celebrate these 582 00:31:49,550 --> 00:31:53,270 S7: two days each and every year. Don't you think that's interesting, Janet, 583 00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:56,030 S7: that it's not just the Jewish people, but those who 584 00:31:56,030 --> 00:32:00,229 S7: love the Jewish people, their allies who celebrate with them. 585 00:32:00,390 --> 00:32:02,390 S7: And it's one of the things that I have loved 586 00:32:02,390 --> 00:32:06,310 S7: seeing is that so often I have been with people 587 00:32:06,670 --> 00:32:10,830 S7: who are not Jewish, who celebrate God's hand in delivering, 588 00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:13,990 S7: delivering his people. Uh, I think that that's something that 589 00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:15,950 S7: that we can all rejoice at. 590 00:32:16,190 --> 00:32:18,230 S1: Amen. Let me linger on this point because I think 591 00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:21,190 S1: it's so crucial. So you rightfully pointed out that God 592 00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:24,030 S1: isn't mentioned in the book of Esther, but he's there 593 00:32:24,030 --> 00:32:26,270 S1: in the book of Esther. He's everywhere. And one of 594 00:32:26,270 --> 00:32:28,670 S1: the evidence to that is the reason why. Why does 595 00:32:28,670 --> 00:32:31,150 S1: King Xerxes suddenly decide that he's going to read the 596 00:32:31,150 --> 00:32:32,830 S1: archives in the middle of the night? 597 00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:33,510 S7: That's right. 598 00:32:33,550 --> 00:32:33,990 S1: Because. 599 00:32:34,510 --> 00:32:36,630 S7: You know, because if you want to fall asleep, read 600 00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:38,270 S7: the Book of Chronicles. That's it. 601 00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:41,550 S1: Exactly. Although I'm going through Chronicles right now, and I 602 00:32:41,550 --> 00:32:44,910 S1: have to tell you, it's fascinating. I love it. Yeah. 603 00:32:45,150 --> 00:32:47,390 S1: So so you know that God is there because, as 604 00:32:47,390 --> 00:32:49,150 S1: you just pointed out, one way or another, he's going 605 00:32:49,150 --> 00:32:52,150 S1: to rescue his people. Okay. And I think that's important, 606 00:32:52,150 --> 00:32:55,150 S1: particularly for people who are holding their nose. You know, 607 00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:57,030 S1: one of my hate mails that I just got recently 608 00:32:57,030 --> 00:33:00,030 S1: was I won't support Israel until all those Zionists are 609 00:33:00,030 --> 00:33:03,630 S1: out of the country. But that's a tautology. So how 610 00:33:03,670 --> 00:33:07,110 S1: does Israel exist if you don't have any Jews in 611 00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:09,350 S1: the nation of Israel, they want it to become I 612 00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:09,870 S1: don't know. 613 00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:12,950 S7: Well, I think that's based on a misunderstanding of what 614 00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:15,550 S7: Zionism is. Zionism is just the idea that the Jewish 615 00:33:15,550 --> 00:33:18,630 S7: people have the right of self-determination in their own homeland. 616 00:33:18,670 --> 00:33:21,910 S7: That's all it is. It's not. It's not the people 617 00:33:21,910 --> 00:33:25,030 S7: have slimed the word. The word is a good word. 618 00:33:25,390 --> 00:33:27,190 S7: It's right from the Bible. So. 619 00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:31,510 S1: Yes, exactly. We need to understand that. So yeah, just 620 00:33:31,510 --> 00:33:33,430 S1: to drop it contextually in what's been happening in the 621 00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:36,510 S1: last 48 hours, I've been reading all kinds of sites 622 00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:38,390 S1: in Israel where they're going to have Purim. They may 623 00:33:38,430 --> 00:33:40,030 S1: be doing it in a bomb shelter, but they're still 624 00:33:40,030 --> 00:33:42,950 S1: going to celebrate. In fact, one very creative person took 625 00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:45,390 S1: the three cornered treats that are served. 626 00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:45,950 S7: Three cornered. 627 00:33:46,350 --> 00:33:48,230 S1: Yeah, three cornered hat, but they turned it into a 628 00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:50,110 S1: stealth bomber, so that was going to be the way 629 00:33:50,110 --> 00:33:52,590 S1: they were going to do it this year. So there 630 00:33:52,590 --> 00:33:55,990 S1: would be a particularly pointed experience there. But talk to 631 00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:58,710 S1: me about this because I think it's fascinating. I mean, 632 00:33:58,750 --> 00:34:01,030 S1: I love the fact that the writer of Ecclesiastes makes 633 00:34:01,030 --> 00:34:03,790 S1: this declaration nothing new under the sun. So you've got 634 00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:07,190 S1: the Persian king setting the Jewish people free, and now 635 00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:09,350 S1: you have the nation of Israel helping to set the 636 00:34:09,350 --> 00:34:12,110 S1: Persian people free. And by the way, as any Iranian 637 00:34:12,110 --> 00:34:14,069 S1: will tell you, they prefer to be called Persians as 638 00:34:14,070 --> 00:34:15,310 S1: opposed to Iranians, by the way. 639 00:34:15,350 --> 00:34:19,270 S7: Exactly. Do you we mentioned in a previous segment the 640 00:34:19,790 --> 00:34:25,430 S7: video of Persians, Iranians celebrating all over the world, celebrating 641 00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:27,430 S7: right now. One of the things you'll see is the 642 00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:31,750 S7: old flag of Iran with the lion. That was the 643 00:34:31,790 --> 00:34:34,469 S7: flag during the days of the Shah of Iran. And 644 00:34:34,469 --> 00:34:39,189 S7: not only that, Israeli flags there. They're waving Israeli flags. 645 00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:41,830 S7: And I found it amazing. I saw this one video, 646 00:34:42,070 --> 00:34:45,230 S7: I think it was in London where they were singing Hatikvah. 647 00:34:45,590 --> 00:34:46,150 S1: Yes. 648 00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:50,069 S7: The Israeli national anthem, when they were celebrating this, because 649 00:34:50,070 --> 00:34:53,069 S7: they were so grateful. And it's basically a lot of 650 00:34:53,070 --> 00:34:56,350 S7: Iranians are saying, thank you for paying back after all 651 00:34:56,350 --> 00:35:00,109 S7: these years. You know, King Cyrus the Great, the the 652 00:35:00,110 --> 00:35:03,310 S7: great emperor who released the Jewish people and allowed them 653 00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:05,870 S7: to return the Bible, calls them an anointed of God 654 00:35:05,870 --> 00:35:08,870 S7: in Isaiah 45, because he was anointed by God for 655 00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:11,990 S7: the special purpose of being the king, who would release 656 00:35:12,190 --> 00:35:15,029 S7: the Jewish people and allow them to return to their homeland. 657 00:35:15,390 --> 00:35:20,990 S7: That Cyrus was a Persian. And now, uh, there's a 658 00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:24,989 S7: hope that the Israelis, along with the United States and 659 00:35:25,070 --> 00:35:29,510 S7: other nations will bring deliverance and liberation to the Iranian 660 00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:32,270 S7: people once again. It's payback time. 661 00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:36,230 S1: It is. Absolutely. And you've underscored why and how believers 662 00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:38,310 S1: can need to pray right now. We remember the heart 663 00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:39,670 S1: of the King is in the hand of God. We 664 00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:41,670 S1: start with that first, that God is on the throne. 665 00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:44,310 S1: Nothing moves him. He's not up for re-election. And all 666 00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:47,149 S1: of this is happening under his sovereignty. So number one, 667 00:35:47,150 --> 00:35:51,910 S1: number two, there is politics. Governments hate a vacuum. So 668 00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:55,270 S1: we don't want a vacuum created in Iran when now 669 00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:58,830 S1: the relief of the theology takes place. Lord willing, and 670 00:35:58,830 --> 00:36:01,470 S1: the mullahs are eradicated. But then who will step forward? 671 00:36:01,469 --> 00:36:04,150 S1: It has to be someone who can set the people free. 672 00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:06,629 S1: I thought to myself, rather than the pundits, I want 673 00:36:06,670 --> 00:36:09,110 S1: to hear from Iranians themselves. And when you see tears 674 00:36:09,150 --> 00:36:12,109 S1: streaming down their face, I saw one woman say, my 675 00:36:12,110 --> 00:36:14,469 S1: father has never seen my child. I can't get back 676 00:36:14,469 --> 00:36:16,350 S1: to Iran to show my father my child. He is 677 00:36:16,350 --> 00:36:18,509 S1: a grandson he's never been able to see. And she 678 00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:21,270 S1: was weeping, saying, now, now maybe we can be back 679 00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:24,350 S1: together again. So we need to be praying specifically that 680 00:36:24,350 --> 00:36:26,750 S1: God will raise up the right leader at the right 681 00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:29,870 S1: time for the right purpose. And I think reviewing the 682 00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:32,910 S1: book of Esther at this time is very appropriate as 683 00:36:32,910 --> 00:36:35,629 S1: the backdrop for us to be praying specifically about what's 684 00:36:35,630 --> 00:36:37,350 S1: happening in the Middle East. So when we come back, 685 00:36:37,590 --> 00:36:39,830 S1: I want to tackle some of those bigotries that just 686 00:36:39,830 --> 00:36:42,590 S1: seem to be growing like a virus, because the antidote 687 00:36:42,590 --> 00:36:45,870 S1: for those kinds of bad ideas is the best idea, 688 00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:47,750 S1: and we always find the best ideas in the Word 689 00:36:47,750 --> 00:37:20,109 S1: of God. So more with Doctor Michael Radelet right after this. Well, 690 00:37:20,110 --> 00:37:22,750 S1: if you're listening to us live, not a rebroadcast of 691 00:37:22,750 --> 00:37:25,950 S1: this program right now in Tel Aviv. There's rocket fire 692 00:37:25,989 --> 00:37:28,670 S1: over the skies. So this is not going to end 693 00:37:28,710 --> 00:37:31,630 S1: anytime soon. If you believe that the prayers of a 694 00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:33,670 S1: righteous man availeth much, you need to be praying right 695 00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:36,669 S1: now for this whole situation in the Middle East, for protection, 696 00:37:36,670 --> 00:37:39,350 S1: for wisdom. Oh, I love that verse. So thankful that 697 00:37:39,350 --> 00:37:41,830 S1: when we asked for wisdom, it's granted to us liberally. 698 00:37:42,030 --> 00:37:45,110 S1: A liberal dose of wisdom is needed in this situation 699 00:37:45,110 --> 00:37:47,350 S1: that God who raises up kings and pulls them down, 700 00:37:47,350 --> 00:37:49,510 S1: will raise up just the right leader for the nation 701 00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:52,069 S1: of Iran right now. But this is sunset. Tonight is 702 00:37:52,070 --> 00:37:54,510 S1: the beginning of Purim. Uh, let me tell you what 703 00:37:54,510 --> 00:37:57,270 S1: the writer of Romans said. There's referring to Israel's is 704 00:37:57,270 --> 00:38:01,509 S1: the adoption to sonship. There's the divine glory, the covenants, 705 00:38:01,510 --> 00:38:04,430 S1: the receiving of the law, the temple worship, and the promises. 706 00:38:04,590 --> 00:38:07,910 S1: Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the 707 00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:11,990 S1: human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all 708 00:38:11,989 --> 00:38:15,550 S1: forever praised. Amen. So when you look at the story 709 00:38:15,550 --> 00:38:17,709 S1: of Purim and the story of Esther, it is such 710 00:38:17,710 --> 00:38:21,870 S1: a testimony to God's might, his protection and his faithfulness, 711 00:38:21,950 --> 00:38:23,989 S1: and that the whole world would see it. Not just 712 00:38:23,989 --> 00:38:26,630 S1: the Jewish people, the whole world would know it. But 713 00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:30,990 S1: this satanic spirit against the Jewish people is unrelenting, because 714 00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:34,110 S1: Satan is not going to give up his vendetta against 715 00:38:34,110 --> 00:38:37,029 S1: God's chosen people. So to that end, Michael, let me 716 00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:39,670 S1: take the last section and conversations that always go lickety 717 00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:42,430 S1: split far too fast. Um, a couple of things that 718 00:38:42,430 --> 00:38:45,230 S1: I've seen over again. And, you know, we're not discerning, 719 00:38:45,230 --> 00:38:48,589 S1: thinking people. We're real good at being guppies, swallowing hook, 720 00:38:48,590 --> 00:38:50,630 S1: line and sinker what's fed to us. And if somebody 721 00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:53,030 S1: gives us a bunch of talking points, they spit them out. 722 00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:56,430 S1: But they're not generally originally created ideas. It's just spewing 723 00:38:56,430 --> 00:38:58,990 S1: back a source. So one of the things I'm hearing 724 00:38:59,030 --> 00:39:02,069 S1: ad nauseam now is, and even the declaration by one 725 00:39:02,070 --> 00:39:04,430 S1: person who's not going to ever get more publicity out 726 00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:08,109 S1: of my lips ever again, making the declaration that in 727 00:39:08,110 --> 00:39:10,150 S1: order for someone to be allowed to be a resident 728 00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:11,870 S1: of the nation of Israel, you have to take a 729 00:39:11,870 --> 00:39:15,190 S1: DNA test. So this harkens back to that ludicrous point 730 00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:17,230 S1: I got earlier in one of my hate mails this 731 00:39:17,230 --> 00:39:20,549 S1: weekend about Netanyahu shouldn't even be in Israel because he's Polish. 732 00:39:20,750 --> 00:39:23,190 S1: So I mean that's do you require to do a 733 00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:25,830 S1: DNA DNA test to be allowed to live in Ireland, 734 00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:28,029 S1: or do you have to do the same thing if 735 00:39:28,030 --> 00:39:30,029 S1: you're going to be in Italian? I mean, why would 736 00:39:30,030 --> 00:39:32,509 S1: you pull out and say you don't get a Jewish state? 737 00:39:32,510 --> 00:39:34,310 S1: Because first of all, you have to prove that you're Jewish. 738 00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:37,310 S1: So this idea that the lines have all bled away 739 00:39:37,630 --> 00:39:40,270 S1: is ridiculous, particularly when you go through the Book of 740 00:39:40,270 --> 00:39:43,190 S1: Chronicles and you begin to see the lineage to all 741 00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:45,070 S1: of these sorts of things. So talk to me about that. 742 00:39:45,110 --> 00:39:48,910 S7: Well, it's this is based on a false idea called 743 00:39:48,910 --> 00:39:55,390 S7: the Khazar theory. The Khazars were a Turkish Turkic medieval 744 00:39:55,390 --> 00:40:00,710 S7: people empire where the nobility adopted Judaism. Likely it's not certain, 745 00:40:00,710 --> 00:40:03,790 S7: but it does appear that the the upper echelons of 746 00:40:03,790 --> 00:40:09,390 S7: society adopted Judaism and intermarried with Jewish people. Uh, but 747 00:40:09,390 --> 00:40:13,589 S7: that's just a legend. It's not necessarily fact. Uh, and 748 00:40:13,590 --> 00:40:16,549 S7: people then want to say that all European Jews, all 749 00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:22,910 S7: the Ashkenazi Jews like me actually are Khazars. That's just 750 00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:26,150 S7: what what we know is three reasons why that is false. 751 00:40:26,350 --> 00:40:32,390 S7: One is genetic testing, which shows that Jewish people from 752 00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:35,750 S7: who are Ashkenazi, that's the European Jews, Central and Eastern 753 00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:38,509 S7: European Jews who came to America for the most part 754 00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:42,870 S7: between 1880 and 1920. My parents came here in 1950. Uh, 755 00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:47,069 S7: those Jewish people have the same genetic roots in the 756 00:40:47,070 --> 00:40:51,150 S7: Middle East as Mizrahi Jews, the Jews from the Arab 757 00:40:51,150 --> 00:40:54,350 S7: world and Sephardi Jews, the Jews from Spain and the 758 00:40:54,350 --> 00:40:57,469 S7: Mediterranean world. We all have the same root, and it's 759 00:40:57,469 --> 00:40:59,910 S7: in the Middle East. And so that shows that this 760 00:40:59,910 --> 00:41:05,109 S7: Khazar theory is not true. And then the second is lexical. 761 00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:07,910 S7: You know, they looked at the the words and there 762 00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:11,989 S7: are no Turkic words in the languages spoken by the 763 00:41:11,989 --> 00:41:16,069 S7: Jewish people of Eastern Europe. Yiddish. That was my first language. Uh, 764 00:41:16,070 --> 00:41:19,870 S7: it was written with Hebrew letters, but spoken like German, uh, 765 00:41:20,070 --> 00:41:22,870 S7: because we saved the holy language of Hebrew, which was 766 00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:26,070 S7: used in the synagogue for prayer and study. That's where 767 00:41:26,070 --> 00:41:28,950 S7: we use that. But Yiddish has no Turkic elements, so 768 00:41:28,989 --> 00:41:33,830 S7: lexically it doesn't make any sense. And then lastly, uh, 769 00:41:34,350 --> 00:41:38,350 S7: I think persecution. Think about it. Jewish people have been 770 00:41:38,350 --> 00:41:41,790 S7: so persecuted in Europe. Uh, traditionally, a lot of times 771 00:41:41,790 --> 00:41:46,590 S7: people forget this, but the church was deeply anti-Semitic. That's right. 772 00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:49,750 S7: And who? It was against the law to convert. But 773 00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:51,470 S7: who would want to if it was going to bring 774 00:41:51,469 --> 00:41:54,750 S7: all this to convert to Judaism? It was against church 775 00:41:54,750 --> 00:41:56,910 S7: law for someone to convert to Judaism. But can you 776 00:41:56,910 --> 00:42:00,469 S7: imagine someone willingly taking on this kind of persecution and 777 00:42:00,469 --> 00:42:03,510 S7: pogroms didn't make any sense. So that's why, uh, it's 778 00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:06,509 S7: just not true. And now, also, this is something I 779 00:42:06,510 --> 00:42:09,550 S7: think is interesting in Poland and in Russia and different 780 00:42:09,550 --> 00:42:12,830 S7: places like that where Ashkenazi Jews lived, they were never 781 00:42:12,830 --> 00:42:16,109 S7: considered Polish. They were never considered Russian. Do you know what? 782 00:42:16,110 --> 00:42:21,950 S7: They were considered a separate nation. Jews who on on 783 00:42:22,270 --> 00:42:25,589 S7: Soviet identity cards. It didn't say Russian, it didn't say Ukrainian. 784 00:42:25,590 --> 00:42:28,230 S7: It didn't say anything like that. It said Jewish. Wherever 785 00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:33,230 S7: Jews lived, whether it was in Pakistan or or Kazakhstan 786 00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:37,270 S7: or Moscow, wherever they lived, it said Jewish, because they 787 00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:42,910 S7: were all descended from this separate nation. So it's it's ridiculous. 788 00:42:43,110 --> 00:42:49,430 S7: Never granted citizenship in Europe and then, uh, experienced genocide 789 00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:52,070 S7: in Europe. You can't live in our land, they said. 790 00:42:52,110 --> 00:42:54,670 S7: And now they want to say, oh, you can't live 791 00:42:54,670 --> 00:42:58,710 S7: in your land. That's just silly. Uh, and it's bigotry. 792 00:42:58,910 --> 00:42:59,510 S7: It's bigotry. 793 00:42:59,550 --> 00:43:02,069 S1: Bigotry. That's exactly right. It's a it's a it's a 794 00:43:02,070 --> 00:43:06,430 S1: very thoughtless, sloppy approach to you shouldn't be allowed to 795 00:43:06,469 --> 00:43:08,629 S1: exist period of understatement. So these people who are trying 796 00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:10,350 S1: to answer how many angels dance on the head of 797 00:43:10,350 --> 00:43:12,430 S1: a pin by saying, no, no, no, I'm just against 798 00:43:12,430 --> 00:43:15,190 S1: the government of Israel. I'm, I'm I'm not against the 799 00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:18,230 S1: Jewish people. Well, you know, that's pretty ridiculous to try 800 00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:20,310 S1: to splice the two. And by the way, in your 801 00:43:20,350 --> 00:43:23,390 S1: litany of excellent points, what about the person who converts? 802 00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:25,110 S1: You know, if you decide that you're going to marry 803 00:43:25,150 --> 00:43:27,029 S1: a Jewish man and you're a woman and you decide 804 00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:30,830 S1: that you're going to convert, there's no necessarily DNA blood 805 00:43:30,830 --> 00:43:35,589 S1: in her. So there is children. Yes, exactly. 1,000%. But again, 806 00:43:35,590 --> 00:43:38,590 S1: it's this interesting amalgamation that it's not just an ethnicity. 807 00:43:38,630 --> 00:43:40,590 S1: It happens to be a religion. So how do you 808 00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:42,430 S1: draw the line between the two? Exactly. 809 00:43:42,469 --> 00:43:45,430 S7: It's a combination. Hey, I do want to mention one thing. Please. 810 00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:49,710 S7: I hear the music coming on in the Haggadah. The Haggadah, 811 00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:54,509 S7: the Passover. It says this. The promise made to our 812 00:43:54,510 --> 00:43:57,750 S7: forefathers holds true also for us. For more than once 813 00:43:57,750 --> 00:44:00,669 S7: have they arisen against us, to destroy us. In every 814 00:44:00,670 --> 00:44:04,350 S7: generation they rise against us and seek our destruction. But 815 00:44:04,350 --> 00:44:08,109 S7: the Holy One, blessed be he, always delivers us from 816 00:44:08,110 --> 00:44:12,990 S7: their hands. That's the truth. That's based on Jeremiah 31 3537. 817 00:44:12,989 --> 00:44:15,310 S7: We should never forget it. God is going to protect 818 00:44:15,310 --> 00:44:15,950 S7: his people. 819 00:44:16,270 --> 00:44:20,430 S1: Amen, Amen. So teach me. Do I say Happy Purim? 820 00:44:20,430 --> 00:44:21,750 S1: Is that a phrase that you use? 821 00:44:22,110 --> 00:44:25,070 S7: You say Purim or Happy Purim? 822 00:44:25,310 --> 00:44:27,830 S1: Oh, I love that, I love that. So tonight at 823 00:44:27,830 --> 00:44:30,109 S1: the idyllic household, what will you do? Our little three 824 00:44:30,110 --> 00:44:32,070 S1: corner treats being made for you as we speak? 825 00:44:32,190 --> 00:44:37,509 S7: Well, we're buying them. We're going to make them with 826 00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:40,750 S7: our grandkids, uh, later in the week. But also, uh, 827 00:44:40,750 --> 00:44:42,710 S7: what we're going to do is go hear the megillah, 828 00:44:42,750 --> 00:44:45,230 S7: the megillat. Esther read to us. 829 00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:48,710 S1: Wow, wow. And to sit back and remember that once again. 830 00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:49,109 S7: And. 831 00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:52,189 S1: Mighty to save and stomp your feet against I love that. 832 00:44:52,190 --> 00:44:55,350 S1: I absolutely love that, Michael. These are fabulous conversations. Thank 833 00:44:55,350 --> 00:44:57,350 S1: you so much. God is really. If I can talk 834 00:44:57,390 --> 00:45:00,029 S1: about Queen Esther for a moment contextually, he's raised you 835 00:45:00,070 --> 00:45:02,670 S1: up for such a time as this your deep love 836 00:45:02,670 --> 00:45:05,190 S1: of the word, your love of Yeshua Messiah. But your 837 00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:08,830 S1: understanding of what the word says is the overlay on 838 00:45:08,830 --> 00:45:10,830 S1: the headlines of the day. What a blessing you are. 839 00:45:10,830 --> 00:45:12,830 S1: Thank you friend, thank you friends. We'll see you next 840 00:45:12,830 --> 00:45:14,590 S1: time on In the Market with Janet Parshall.