1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:11,720 S1: What are the unique pitfalls traps, spiritual landmines for Christian 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,240 S1: men in their 70s? And by asking that question, I 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,400 S1: think we're going to talk about a wider swath of 4 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,600 S1: the church because the enemy wants to trip you up 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,560 S1: in your 20s, 30s, 40s, whatever stage of life you're in, 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,480 S1: whatever gender you are. But I want to focus today 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,920 S1: on those men in their 70s, because I have a 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,720 S1: friend who's 71, and he made an observation back at 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,919 S1: the end of May that really resonated with me, and 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,080 S1: I think it'll do the same for you today. Randy 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,680 S1: Alcorn is straight ahead on the program, from the heart 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,680 S1: to the heart for the heart. And this program, as 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,519 S1: I mentioned, is for women of certain ages as well. 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,519 S1: So come on along, join the conversation first with a 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,200 S1: thank you to the team here on Chris Fabry Live. 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:58,160 S1: Ryan McConaughey is helping out Lisa, who's doing all things technical. 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,380 S1: Tricia is our producer. Josh will be answering your calls. 18 00:01:01,940 --> 00:01:04,100 S1: And don't forget those who are helping us reach our 19 00:01:04,100 --> 00:01:05,980 S1: goal for the month of June. We're less than a 20 00:01:05,980 --> 00:01:09,020 S1: week away from the end of the month. July 1st 21 00:01:09,060 --> 00:01:12,460 S1: is one week from today. Can you believe it? The 22 00:01:12,459 --> 00:01:16,220 S1: final days of our offer of Doctor John Perkins book 23 00:01:16,220 --> 00:01:19,620 S1: are coming in the next six days. One blood parting 24 00:01:19,620 --> 00:01:22,500 S1: words to the church on race and love. Doctor Perkins 25 00:01:22,500 --> 00:01:25,700 S1: passed away in March, and to honor him and his 26 00:01:25,860 --> 00:01:31,220 S1: legacy and his message and his heart cry for reconciliation, 27 00:01:31,420 --> 00:01:34,140 S1: we are sending anyone who supports us in the next 28 00:01:34,140 --> 00:01:38,699 S1: six days. Copy of that book One Blood. Go to chris.org. 29 00:01:38,740 --> 00:01:40,620 S1: Let us know you want to get a copy. Chris 30 00:01:40,620 --> 00:01:48,500 S1: Fabry live.org. Or you can call 866953 to give. He 31 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:52,580 S1: lived what he preached. He lived what he wrote. He 32 00:01:52,580 --> 00:01:57,380 S1: loved the church. Well, let his words sink deeply into 33 00:01:57,380 --> 00:02:04,400 S1: your soul, doctor John Perkins, give a gift today. (866) 953-2279. 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,840 S1: Or go to chris.org where you'll find out more about 35 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,240 S1: our guest today. If you didn't already know, Randy Alcorn 36 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,239 S1: is founder and director of Eternal Perspective Ministries, former pastor. 37 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,280 S1: He's spoken around the world and taught on the adjunct 38 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,760 S1: faculties of Multnomah University in Western Seminary in Portland. Randy 39 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,200 S1: is the best selling author of more than 60 books, 40 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:32,959 S1: including happiness Heaven, which is a really heavy big book, 41 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,960 S1: If God Is Good and the award winning novel Safely Home. 42 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,440 S1: He lives in Gresham, Oregon. He was married to Nancy 43 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,520 S1: for seven years before she passed away. Two married daughters, 44 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,120 S1: five grandsons. Randy. Welcome back. How are you doing today? 45 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,239 S2: Good, Chris. Always good to be with you. And I 46 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,359 S2: loved you talking about John Perkins, a dear friend and 47 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,300 S2: a wonderful brother. And wow, I just can't say enough 48 00:02:59,300 --> 00:03:03,180 S2: about his impact on my life as well as countless others. 49 00:03:03,460 --> 00:03:05,620 S1: Well, he ran his race to the end. He's doing 50 00:03:05,620 --> 00:03:07,100 S1: one of the things that we're going to talk about 51 00:03:07,100 --> 00:03:10,580 S1: today is not not coast, but he ran it all 52 00:03:10,580 --> 00:03:13,340 S1: the way to the end. And that's why I really 53 00:03:13,340 --> 00:03:16,100 S1: wanted to give this book that book away this month. 54 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:19,020 S1: One Blood. Now, you just got back from a trip 55 00:03:19,020 --> 00:03:21,780 S1: to Atlanta. Before we jump into the topic, you went 56 00:03:21,780 --> 00:03:26,060 S1: to Atlanta, you went, it's a passion. City church is 57 00:03:26,060 --> 00:03:29,340 S1: Louie Giglio's place down there, right? And that to me, 58 00:03:29,340 --> 00:03:32,500 S1: I've seen a couple of the videos that looks like 59 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:35,140 S1: it was a pretty big deal. What happened down there? 60 00:03:35,780 --> 00:03:39,780 S2: Well, it it was a powerful time. Todd Peterson, who 61 00:03:40,380 --> 00:03:45,740 S2: has worked with, uh, illuminations, Bible translations, seed company, uh, 62 00:03:45,740 --> 00:03:52,420 S2: former pro football player. He was a kicker for the Seahawks, Steelers, Falcons, others, uh, 63 00:03:52,420 --> 00:03:55,380 S2: for years. But a guy who has become a dear 64 00:03:55,380 --> 00:04:00,000 S2: friend over the years. And he, uh, Louis wanted Todd 65 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,680 S2: to interview me. He's one of the elders there at 66 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,400 S2: Passion City. And so Todd interviewed me, uh, and we 67 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,920 S2: talked about giving and investing our lives in eternity. And, uh, 68 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,200 S2: it turned out to be, um, pretty powerful. I think 69 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,760 S2: Todd just asked some good questions and kind of teed 70 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:24,440 S2: it up for me and, uh, great response from people. Uh, but, uh, 71 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,960 S2: there was a little segment they put on Instagram and 72 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:33,280 S2: Facebook and other places and social media. Um, that had 73 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,840 S2: quite a reaction where I just talked about Nancy and 74 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,840 S2: my conversations at the end of life and thanking each 75 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,280 S2: other for our lives. 76 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:46,360 S1: That's it. And, and she was and is still a 77 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,839 S1: part of your ministry, right? 78 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:53,800 S2: Yeah, absolutely. And it's so interesting because, uh, we've posted, uh, 79 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,700 S2: fairly frequently things that she wrote in her journal and 80 00:04:58,740 --> 00:05:02,820 S2: stories that people have told us about her, um, impact 81 00:05:02,820 --> 00:05:08,420 S2: on their lives and, um, being dead yet speaks, you know, 82 00:05:08,460 --> 00:05:10,900 S2: that's that thing about Abel that said in Hebrews, it's 83 00:05:10,900 --> 00:05:15,860 S2: just like, wow. I mean, it's, it's a powerful. She 84 00:05:15,900 --> 00:05:20,260 S2: has died, but she's still speaking. And it's, it's it's great. 85 00:05:20,300 --> 00:05:22,900 S1: Yeah. Randy Alcorn is with us today. And here's what 86 00:05:22,900 --> 00:05:26,620 S1: I saw on his social media. And, and I had 87 00:05:26,620 --> 00:05:28,620 S1: to go back. I had to scroll back through an 88 00:05:28,620 --> 00:05:31,420 S1: awful lot. You are or your team, you and your 89 00:05:31,420 --> 00:05:34,580 S1: team are really prolific with all these things. So I 90 00:05:34,620 --> 00:05:37,099 S1: found this at the end of May. You said in 91 00:05:37,100 --> 00:05:42,380 S1: recent years many cases of immoral relationships of Christian leaders, 92 00:05:42,580 --> 00:05:45,779 S1: including those I have spoken with at various events, have 93 00:05:45,779 --> 00:05:49,620 S1: happened with men in their 70s since I am 71. 94 00:05:49,620 --> 00:05:52,740 S1: I take that very seriously. It should make us. All 95 00:05:52,740 --> 00:05:56,440 S1: of us should. Make us carefully examine our lives and 96 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,400 S1: take heed to Paul's warning. Let him who thinks he 97 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,640 S1: stands take heed lest he fall. First Corinthians 1012 and 98 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:08,640 S1: Proverbs 1618. Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before 99 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,880 S1: a fall. God help us all to guard our hearts 100 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,359 S1: and minds and be on alert because the devil desires 101 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:23,040 S1: to destroy us. And so just that paragraph that you posted, 102 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,920 S1: I thought I got to have Randy on to talk 103 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,479 S1: about that. So talk about it. Why'd you post that? 104 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,080 S2: Well, first of all, I have turned 72 since then. 105 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,880 S2: That was just a few days ago. But not that 106 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,799 S2: that makes any difference. But just to be accurate, I'm 107 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,440 S2: now 72 and I can't believe it. You know, I 108 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:45,560 S2: think we're all amazed sometimes at how old we are. And, uh, 109 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,880 S2: yet what has hit me is I used to tend 110 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,580 S2: to think that, okay, most of the people that are 111 00:06:53,779 --> 00:06:58,980 S2: falling into immorality, uh, even in, in pastoral ministry tend 112 00:06:58,980 --> 00:07:02,100 S2: to be younger pastors. And maybe the sex drives are 113 00:07:02,100 --> 00:07:05,979 S2: really particularly strong at that time in their lives. Maybe 114 00:07:05,980 --> 00:07:09,619 S2: they're confused about different things. Maybe they're not married yet, 115 00:07:09,620 --> 00:07:12,900 S2: or they're young marrieds and they're having trouble in their 116 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:17,300 S2: marriage and they're not figuring things out. And terrible things 117 00:07:17,300 --> 00:07:21,220 S2: are happening. And you tend to think, well, when a 118 00:07:21,220 --> 00:07:25,460 S2: man's more older, more mature, and I'm not talking about 119 00:07:25,460 --> 00:07:29,260 S2: just any man in general, but a Christian leader in particular, 120 00:07:29,460 --> 00:07:33,620 S2: that he's got the resources available to him, God's word, 121 00:07:33,660 --> 00:07:39,020 S2: indwelling spirit, hopefully accountability going on, people he works with. 122 00:07:39,580 --> 00:07:43,860 S2: And it's been shocking to me that men that I 123 00:07:43,900 --> 00:07:49,620 S2: have shared platforms with, um, there was one, um, there was, 124 00:07:49,660 --> 00:07:53,720 S2: there was, there were four men in a seven month 125 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:59,280 S2: period who fell into sexual sin or walked into sexual 126 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,800 S2: sin or ran into sexual sin. Fellas, not always the 127 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,360 S2: right word for it. Um, but and I'm going. These 128 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:13,240 S2: are men I knew and respected and was somewhat shocked 129 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,360 S2: and and it's hard to shock. I mean, you've been 130 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,720 S2: around the block like I have, Chris. You know that 131 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,000 S2: this happens all the time, but you still are sometimes shocked. 132 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,960 S2: And I think Ravi Zacharias was an example of that. 133 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,040 S2: I mean, he he's a friend. He's somebody I thought 134 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,880 S2: I truly knew. And I've talked to the people on 135 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,480 S2: his board, worked with him. We just didn't see it coming. 136 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,640 S2: And yet it had been going on for year after year. 137 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,320 S2: So it just strikes me, uh, that there's no age 138 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,280 S2: cutoff on this thing. Uh, at least not one that 139 00:08:49,380 --> 00:08:50,540 S2: I've seen yet. So. 140 00:08:50,580 --> 00:08:53,540 S1: Yes. Well, and what I get from the tone of 141 00:08:53,540 --> 00:08:55,819 S1: what you just said as well as what you wrote, 142 00:08:55,860 --> 00:09:00,660 S1: it's not you look how bad these people are and 143 00:09:00,660 --> 00:09:03,260 S1: look at where they are. It's like, I need to 144 00:09:03,300 --> 00:09:06,340 S1: look at my own life and I need to take 145 00:09:06,340 --> 00:09:09,699 S1: an assessment from me lest I fall. Right. 146 00:09:10,100 --> 00:09:15,460 S2: Exactly. Self-Examination. I mean, looking at ourselves, look to yourself, 147 00:09:15,500 --> 00:09:19,060 S2: lest you to be tempted. Um, and we are going 148 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:23,740 S2: to be tempted. And I'll tell you. Self righteousness and 149 00:09:23,780 --> 00:09:29,380 S2: a dismissive attitude. Uh oh, that could never happen to me. Um, 150 00:09:29,380 --> 00:09:32,260 S2: I in my book, The Purity Principle, I tell a 151 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:34,460 S2: story of when I was in Bible college and one 152 00:09:34,460 --> 00:09:39,220 S2: of the professors, my favorite professor my freshman year of 153 00:09:39,220 --> 00:09:43,819 S2: Bible college, he was terrific. And then the next thing 154 00:09:43,820 --> 00:09:48,720 S2: I know, he's dismissed. But they're not explaining why. And 155 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,920 S2: and some of us were really offended at first because 156 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,800 S2: we go, well, what could he have done? Because we 157 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,520 S2: couldn't imagine that it was anything all that serious. And 158 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,760 S2: it turned out to be sexual immorality. And I remember 159 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,080 S2: how shocked I was. And he was, I would say 160 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,680 S2: at least in his upper 60s at that time. And again, 161 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,439 S2: it just happens. Yeah. 162 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,600 S1: Okay. So I want to know specifically on that sexual temptation. 163 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,560 S1: Why does it happen? Why does it happen to men 164 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,280 S1: in their 60s, 70s or even older than that? And 165 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,000 S1: then what are the other things that we that you're 166 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:30,080 S1: looking for as 72? What are the dangers, snares and 167 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:35,199 S1: traps for Christian men today, specifically men, but women as well? 168 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,760 S1: What are the those danger snares, toils, uh, ways that 169 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,319 S1: the enemy is using to trip you up? I put 170 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,080 S1: that on Facebook. I'll tell you what some of the 171 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,700 S1: people said, and we'll continue with our conversation with Randy 172 00:10:47,700 --> 00:10:51,020 S1: Alcorn today. Special guest here at the Radio Backyard Fence. 173 00:10:51,340 --> 00:10:53,500 S1: If you have an answer to that question, what are 174 00:10:53,500 --> 00:10:56,339 S1: the dangers, snares and traps for Christian men in their 175 00:10:56,340 --> 00:11:06,179 S1: 70s or others, Christian women or in their 80s or 90s. (877) 548-3675. 176 00:11:06,220 --> 00:11:19,540 S1: More straight ahead. I know many of you have appreciated 177 00:11:19,540 --> 00:11:24,100 S1: the writing. The Ministry of Randy Alcorn, and he's back 178 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:26,179 S1: again today. And if you'd like to find out more 179 00:11:26,179 --> 00:11:30,660 S1: about him. Link to his website or see the featured 180 00:11:30,660 --> 00:11:35,140 S1: resource as multiple purity principle that he talked about a 181 00:11:35,140 --> 00:11:37,819 S1: minute ago. And then there's a booklet for mainly for 182 00:11:37,820 --> 00:11:41,020 S1: Christian leaders about sexual temptation. We're going to put that 183 00:11:41,020 --> 00:11:43,460 S1: up there as well. Just go to Chris Fabry live.org. 184 00:11:43,500 --> 00:11:47,480 S1: Click through today's information. But we're talking about those men, 185 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,560 S1: Christian men in their 70s. And Christian women as well. 186 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,240 S1: But since Randy's a man and I am too, I 187 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,120 S1: wanted to find out from him why. Why is this 188 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,520 S1: on your radar? What are you thinking about this? What 189 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,840 S1: is what? And I told you in the break, I 190 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,560 S1: know what you're talking about, who you're talking about here. 191 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,000 S1: And most people, uh, who are listening may may be 192 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,920 S1: able to read between the lines, but it seems to 193 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,400 S1: me that there was an on ramp. There was a, 194 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:21,079 S1: a long season of temptation that then the line was crossed. 195 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,640 S1: And then there was a long season of continual sin 196 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:30,000 S1: that was just, um, not struggled with, but was given into. 197 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:35,440 S1: So what talk talk to me about why. Why in 198 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,040 S1: the 70s or have we seen this happen? 199 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:46,750 S2: Yeah, I think it is um, a A gradual thing often, uh, 200 00:12:47,429 --> 00:12:50,070 S2: you know, it doesn't come out of the clear blue sky. 201 00:12:50,070 --> 00:12:53,110 S2: We may think it does. Uh, it's, you know, the 202 00:12:53,110 --> 00:12:57,110 S2: people around are shocked, but we don't realize that just 203 00:12:57,110 --> 00:13:02,790 S2: as it would be true in our lives happens. Uh, 204 00:13:02,790 --> 00:13:07,830 S2: sexual sin happens often after a long period of desensitization. 205 00:13:08,230 --> 00:13:14,230 S2: Little compromises, not huge ones, but they become huge. Um, 206 00:13:14,230 --> 00:13:18,550 S2: but only after we've tolerated them and lived with it 207 00:13:18,550 --> 00:13:21,630 S2: and not even realized what's going on. So I think 208 00:13:21,630 --> 00:13:24,390 S2: what can happen, um, some people who are in their 209 00:13:24,390 --> 00:13:29,510 S2: 70s are retired though these Christian men in ministry, um, 210 00:13:29,750 --> 00:13:33,630 S2: that I'm talking about had not retired. But I think 211 00:13:33,630 --> 00:13:38,150 S2: what happens sometimes is the older, uh, somebody gets, the 212 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:44,050 S2: more he's trusted. And younger pastors might be an accountability group. 213 00:13:44,530 --> 00:13:47,410 S2: And it's just knowing that, you know, the elders of 214 00:13:47,450 --> 00:13:50,689 S2: their churches are encouraged. And who are you meeting with? 215 00:13:50,770 --> 00:13:53,330 S2: Who are you? But it's almost like we have this 216 00:13:53,330 --> 00:13:57,650 S2: idea that when a man gets old enough that this 217 00:13:57,650 --> 00:14:00,890 S2: is not going to be a problem for him anymore, 218 00:14:00,890 --> 00:14:05,610 S2: and that just simply is not true. Sometimes he's he, 219 00:14:05,730 --> 00:14:08,690 S2: he feels like, okay, I'm past my peak. And so 220 00:14:09,130 --> 00:14:11,810 S2: because I'm past my peak, maybe I want to prove 221 00:14:11,809 --> 00:14:16,010 S2: something to myself. And so I'll entertain a relationship I 222 00:14:16,010 --> 00:14:21,450 S2: shouldn't entertain. I'll compromise with the things that I'm watching 223 00:14:21,490 --> 00:14:26,530 S2: on television. Sometimes it's a man, uh, for instance, myself, 224 00:14:26,850 --> 00:14:30,890 S2: my wife has died. And so when your wife has died, 225 00:14:30,930 --> 00:14:36,050 S2: are you tempted to watch something that you wouldn't have watched, uh, 226 00:14:36,050 --> 00:14:41,330 S2: with your wife? And I've been tempted sometimes to do that. Fortunately. 227 00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:45,950 S2: largely because of the fear of God, not because of 228 00:14:45,950 --> 00:14:49,910 S2: confidence in my ability to resist. Uh, it's been the 229 00:14:49,910 --> 00:14:54,190 S2: fear of God. And I have a long list of consequences. 230 00:14:54,190 --> 00:14:56,510 S2: I wrote up many years ago when I was in 231 00:14:56,510 --> 00:15:00,390 S2: my 20s, and I still look back at those about 232 00:15:00,390 --> 00:15:04,630 S2: what would happen to me and my relationships with family, 233 00:15:04,670 --> 00:15:08,910 S2: my grandchildren. I have five grandsons. Uh, it would be 234 00:15:08,910 --> 00:15:11,630 S2: so devastating for them. I've talked to each of them 235 00:15:11,630 --> 00:15:16,350 S2: about purity in their lives. Uh, so yeah, but why 236 00:15:16,350 --> 00:15:19,790 S2: it happens? I think we get desensitized. And also we 237 00:15:19,790 --> 00:15:23,590 S2: stop paying attention and we become presumptuous and thinking we're 238 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:26,430 S2: going to do okay, kind of on our own and 239 00:15:26,430 --> 00:15:30,310 S2: just watch something that you wouldn't have watched a while 240 00:15:30,310 --> 00:15:34,470 S2: back and your standards are just, just dropping. Yeah. 241 00:15:34,790 --> 00:15:37,870 S1: And that I have a friend who is a widower 242 00:15:38,470 --> 00:15:41,410 S1: and who writes and who even I think it was 243 00:15:41,410 --> 00:15:43,730 S1: this week, he wrote and he said, this is a 244 00:15:44,130 --> 00:15:47,010 S1: real struggle for me because I'm thinking about, you know, 245 00:15:47,050 --> 00:15:51,730 S1: should I get remarried or not? Um, he's 70 plus. 246 00:15:52,090 --> 00:15:54,490 S1: Should I get remarried or not? Because his wife passed 247 00:15:54,490 --> 00:16:00,050 S1: away not long ago. And that temptation you hear about this? 248 00:16:00,050 --> 00:16:03,570 S1: Not with Christian men who are leaders, but Christian men 249 00:16:03,610 --> 00:16:07,970 S1: who are moving in with a woman who is of 250 00:16:07,970 --> 00:16:11,530 S1: the same age type of thing and compromising that way. 251 00:16:11,970 --> 00:16:15,210 S1: So it's interesting to me that you will bring this up, 252 00:16:15,210 --> 00:16:18,450 S1: because several people on that Facebook post about the danger 253 00:16:18,450 --> 00:16:21,290 S1: of snares and traps for Christian men in their 70s. 254 00:16:21,490 --> 00:16:24,330 S1: One of the words that came up again and again 255 00:16:24,370 --> 00:16:30,490 S1: was isolation. That they are isolated from others. That fits 256 00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:31,570 S1: in here, doesn't it? 257 00:16:32,410 --> 00:16:36,450 S2: It does. And you can be a popular on the circuit, 258 00:16:36,450 --> 00:16:42,470 S2: the Christian circuit speaker. Uh, you can travel extensively. Uh, 259 00:16:42,470 --> 00:16:45,350 S2: you can show up places, you can receive a lot 260 00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:50,470 S2: of praise from people. And you have, um, you know, 261 00:16:50,510 --> 00:16:54,230 S2: men and women, but, uh, women who will come up 262 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:57,590 S2: to you and, and flatter you. And they may be 263 00:16:57,590 --> 00:17:01,430 S2: completely innocent, but but just. Oh, that was the best 264 00:17:01,430 --> 00:17:04,310 S2: message I've ever heard. You're you are such a wonderful 265 00:17:04,310 --> 00:17:07,870 S2: teacher of God's word. And, and, and it's, uh, you know, 266 00:17:07,910 --> 00:17:12,909 S2: we can be flattered in the area of our spirituality, uh, 267 00:17:12,910 --> 00:17:16,790 S2: even when really it's more a giftedness that comes from 268 00:17:16,790 --> 00:17:21,510 S2: God and maybe some skills that, you know, we've honed 269 00:17:21,510 --> 00:17:24,550 S2: over the years, but most of the credit doesn't go 270 00:17:24,550 --> 00:17:27,510 S2: to us. God's given us this stuff. But boy, I 271 00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:30,710 S2: tell you, if you if you don't learn to deflect 272 00:17:30,710 --> 00:17:32,750 S2: that praise, and I don't mean deny it, I don't 273 00:17:32,750 --> 00:17:35,510 S2: mean like, oh, no, don't don't ever say to me, 274 00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:38,810 S2: that was a good message, you know. No, that, you 275 00:17:38,810 --> 00:17:41,410 S2: know it's appropriate if it was a good message. But 276 00:17:41,410 --> 00:17:47,649 S2: I mean, you can become a seduced by flattery. Uh, 277 00:17:47,650 --> 00:17:52,250 S2: Proverbs talks about that. Um, and a man can listen 278 00:17:52,250 --> 00:17:56,770 S2: to a woman's words even when she's not intending to 279 00:17:56,770 --> 00:18:01,169 S2: be seductive. She's attractive, and it feels that way. And 280 00:18:01,170 --> 00:18:04,450 S2: then pretty soon you're having coffee, and now you've got 281 00:18:04,450 --> 00:18:08,210 S2: this relationship. And some of these men, it was women 282 00:18:08,210 --> 00:18:11,690 S2: in other parts of the country, the country that they 283 00:18:11,690 --> 00:18:17,290 S2: met when traveling and speaking Christian conferences, and then had 284 00:18:17,290 --> 00:18:20,730 S2: carried on an ongoing relationship and then some when they 285 00:18:20,770 --> 00:18:25,250 S2: came back to the city again and immorality took place. 286 00:18:25,250 --> 00:18:27,690 S2: And yeah, it's, it's, it's a trap. 287 00:18:28,090 --> 00:18:30,250 S1: I don't want to do too much with the spiritual 288 00:18:30,250 --> 00:18:33,609 S1: warfare thing or the, the enemy having a field day. 289 00:18:33,609 --> 00:18:38,350 S1: But I feel like this is because both are true. 290 00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:40,830 S1: We are our own worst enemies. I don't need the 291 00:18:40,830 --> 00:18:43,350 S1: devil to doing anything in my life because I do 292 00:18:43,390 --> 00:18:47,070 S1: enough myself, you know? But there is. It feels like, 293 00:18:47,109 --> 00:18:51,550 S1: especially with Christian leaders, older Christian, mature Christian leaders who 294 00:18:51,550 --> 00:18:54,990 S1: are falling this way, that there is. It's almost as 295 00:18:54,990 --> 00:18:59,989 S1: if it were an attack and and glee from the 296 00:18:59,990 --> 00:19:02,270 S1: forces of hell. Would you agree with that? 297 00:19:02,670 --> 00:19:06,869 S2: Oh, I agree so much. Uh, we have a target 298 00:19:06,869 --> 00:19:10,990 S2: on us. Every one of us who is in any 299 00:19:10,990 --> 00:19:14,429 S2: kind of Christian ministry or leadership that includes you. It 300 00:19:14,470 --> 00:19:18,430 S2: includes me. It includes a number of people listening. And 301 00:19:18,430 --> 00:19:22,030 S2: maybe you're an elder at your church. Our church is 302 00:19:22,030 --> 00:19:26,470 S2: always kind of working through issues and challenges, and pastors 303 00:19:26,470 --> 00:19:29,669 S2: and elders are working through things. When I was pastor 304 00:19:29,670 --> 00:19:32,710 S2: of the church, we were always working through things. And 305 00:19:32,750 --> 00:19:38,370 S2: I see sometimes men just getting worn down. And that 306 00:19:38,410 --> 00:19:42,330 S2: when you're worn down, when you're tired, you're not sleeping well. 307 00:19:42,650 --> 00:19:45,889 S2: You got a lot on your mind. You become more vulnerable. 308 00:19:45,930 --> 00:19:48,889 S2: You know, I find myself more tempted to watch the 309 00:19:48,890 --> 00:19:53,570 S2: wrong thing on TV, or do not turn the channel immediately. Whatever. 310 00:19:53,570 --> 00:19:58,129 S2: When something bad comes on or or when I see 311 00:19:58,130 --> 00:20:00,090 S2: it coming. I mean, I think that's one of the 312 00:20:00,090 --> 00:20:03,890 S2: things too, is that you you can't just, you know. Oh, 313 00:20:04,050 --> 00:20:06,770 S2: I'll turn it off when she takes her clothes off. No, 314 00:20:06,770 --> 00:20:09,530 S2: that's too late. I mean, of course you should turn 315 00:20:09,530 --> 00:20:11,450 S2: it off if you haven't yet. But the point is, 316 00:20:11,810 --> 00:20:15,730 S2: you don't don't let it get to that. And so, uh, 317 00:20:15,730 --> 00:20:21,810 S2: use Vidangel. I used Vidangel for virtually everything, and Vidangel 318 00:20:21,810 --> 00:20:24,530 S2: will screen out. It's just one of many things that's 319 00:20:24,530 --> 00:20:28,250 S2: out there. Screen out the wrong stuff. But if you're 320 00:20:28,250 --> 00:20:32,090 S2: not careful, you'll just succumb to it. And maybe your 321 00:20:32,090 --> 00:20:36,310 S2: rationalization is, hey, I'm. I'm an old guy now. It's 322 00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:39,390 S2: not going to happen to me. Well, uh, it can 323 00:20:39,390 --> 00:20:40,230 S2: and it does. 324 00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:43,869 S1: But, you know, going back to what Jesus said about 325 00:20:43,910 --> 00:20:47,270 S1: in your heart, it's like you can have the the 326 00:20:47,310 --> 00:20:50,550 S1: thing on the vid angel for your TV or your device, 327 00:20:50,590 --> 00:20:53,230 S1: you know, your smartphone, you can have all that. And 328 00:20:53,230 --> 00:20:56,830 S1: still in your heart, it's what's in your heart that 329 00:20:56,830 --> 00:21:04,909 S1: is fomenting that lust that, uh, well, Kevin says lust, pride, arrogance, ego. 330 00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:07,630 S1: That's the danger, snares and traps. And he says, hey, 331 00:21:07,670 --> 00:21:11,350 S1: these are the same issues in my 40s as well 332 00:21:11,350 --> 00:21:13,790 S1: as those in their 70s. And he's right, isn't he? 333 00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:18,550 S2: Right, exactly. And I think this is where don't don't 334 00:21:18,550 --> 00:21:22,030 S2: ever think that this is going to go away. Like, like, okay, 335 00:21:22,030 --> 00:21:25,430 S2: so so when a man's unmarried, then he thinks, oh, 336 00:21:25,470 --> 00:21:27,710 S2: this will go away once I'm married because I have 337 00:21:27,710 --> 00:21:32,929 S2: the proper outlet of sexual relationship in marriage. But sexual 338 00:21:32,930 --> 00:21:37,090 S2: temptation does not go away. And so now he thinks 339 00:21:37,090 --> 00:21:40,450 S2: that somehow it all problems were going to be solved. 340 00:21:40,690 --> 00:21:44,610 S2: But they're not all solved because we are sinners and 341 00:21:44,609 --> 00:21:49,370 S2: we have powerful urges that God has created, you know, 342 00:21:49,410 --> 00:21:51,890 S2: in our bodies. And let's face it, it wasn't Satan 343 00:21:51,890 --> 00:21:55,730 S2: that created the sex drive. But the problem is it's 344 00:21:55,730 --> 00:21:58,929 S2: like water or fire. You know, the the things that 345 00:21:58,930 --> 00:22:04,090 S2: have the greatest power, the greatest potential for good also 346 00:22:04,090 --> 00:22:06,730 S2: have the greatest potential for evil. So what would we 347 00:22:06,730 --> 00:22:10,530 S2: do without water? Right? I mean, water is absolutely essential 348 00:22:10,530 --> 00:22:12,970 S2: to life, but have you ever seen a flood? You 349 00:22:12,970 --> 00:22:16,450 S2: ever seen a tsunami? You. You ever seen someone you 350 00:22:16,450 --> 00:22:21,290 S2: love that drowned? You know, um, same thing with fire. 351 00:22:21,330 --> 00:22:25,130 S2: Fire is a great gift of God. Uh, I mean, what, 352 00:22:25,170 --> 00:22:27,690 S2: we couldn't cook food without it. We couldn't. I mean, 353 00:22:27,730 --> 00:22:33,750 S2: this combustion, you know, it's essential Our cars drive around 354 00:22:33,750 --> 00:22:36,949 S2: because there's something related to the ignition and all of 355 00:22:36,990 --> 00:22:41,830 S2: that and the spark. And yet fire, a forest, fire, 356 00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:46,630 S2: a home burned down, a lifetime of memories destroyed in 357 00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:50,070 S2: a heartbeat. Um, so that's the way it is with 358 00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:54,550 S2: sex gift of God. But watch out for that gift 359 00:22:54,550 --> 00:22:56,149 S2: and the mishandling of it. 360 00:22:56,390 --> 00:23:00,270 S1: I do want to get in here, though, for those 361 00:23:00,270 --> 00:23:04,550 S1: who are saying, okay, you know, this is the unpardonable sin. No, 362 00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:10,190 S1: God's grace and mercy is available. No matter what you've done, 363 00:23:10,190 --> 00:23:13,510 S1: no matter how far you've gone. Right. And so I 364 00:23:13,550 --> 00:23:16,870 S1: want people to hear that. But if you really want 365 00:23:16,910 --> 00:23:19,910 S1: to follow hard, take up your cross and follow Jesus, 366 00:23:20,230 --> 00:23:23,430 S1: you're going to deal with this. And, and partly with, 367 00:23:23,470 --> 00:23:27,550 S1: you know, your your devices. Also those having some friends. 368 00:23:27,550 --> 00:23:30,609 S1: I don't know that I like the word accountability anymore because. 369 00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:31,609 S2: I know. 370 00:23:32,010 --> 00:23:34,490 S1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, but there are things 371 00:23:34,490 --> 00:23:36,929 S1: that you can do in your life that will make 372 00:23:36,930 --> 00:23:40,889 S1: you non isolated, so that there are other people speaking 373 00:23:40,890 --> 00:23:43,810 S1: into your life and you speaking into their life as well. 374 00:23:43,850 --> 00:23:45,930 S1: Here's what I like to do, Randi. I want to 375 00:23:45,970 --> 00:23:52,850 S1: open the phone lines (877) 548-3675. Is there any man woman 376 00:23:53,050 --> 00:23:56,810 S1: listening right now who resonates with what Randi is talking 377 00:23:56,810 --> 00:24:01,609 S1: about these dangers, especially of sexual temptation in your 70s 378 00:24:01,609 --> 00:24:04,609 S1: and beyond. Does that ring true to you? Have you 379 00:24:04,650 --> 00:24:06,970 S1: lived in the fallout of that? I want to hear 380 00:24:06,970 --> 00:24:13,449 S1: your story. Eight. 775483675. But I also want to pivot 381 00:24:13,450 --> 00:24:18,530 S1: to the other dangers, snares and traps for Christian men 382 00:24:18,530 --> 00:24:22,290 S1: and women who are in their 70s, because Carolyn went 383 00:24:22,290 --> 00:24:25,210 S1: to Matthew chapter 13 as soon as I posted this up, 384 00:24:25,210 --> 00:24:29,030 S1: and she said the worries of this life and deceitfulness 385 00:24:29,030 --> 00:24:34,230 S1: of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful. Uh, I 386 00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:36,470 S1: want you to respond to that when we come back. 387 00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:40,110 S1: And if you go to Chris fabriclive.org, Randy's book, The 388 00:24:40,109 --> 00:24:44,830 S1: Purity Principle, is linked there, as well as the booklet 389 00:24:44,830 --> 00:24:51,030 S1: about sexual temptation for Christian leaders. Just go to Chris fabriclive.org, 390 00:24:51,070 --> 00:24:54,430 S1: click through today's information and the. You'll see it right 391 00:24:54,430 --> 00:24:58,230 S1: there on the right hand side. Chris fabriclive.org. So here's 392 00:24:58,230 --> 00:25:01,070 S1: the number. And the question is, what are the dangers? 393 00:25:01,070 --> 00:25:03,590 S1: What are the snares and traps for Christian men in 394 00:25:03,630 --> 00:25:12,989 S1: their 70s? Women 28775483675. Is it worry? Is it the 395 00:25:12,990 --> 00:25:20,189 S1: deceitfulness of wealth? Daphne says not mentoring the younger generation. Uh, 396 00:25:20,670 --> 00:25:23,550 S1: coming alongside those who are a little bit younger than 397 00:25:23,550 --> 00:25:27,930 S1: you are and pouring your life into them. What would 398 00:25:27,930 --> 00:25:35,050 S1: you say? (877) 548-3675. Randy Alcorn is at the radio backyard fence. 399 00:25:35,050 --> 00:25:37,730 S1: And I'm glad he is. And I'm glad you are 400 00:25:37,770 --> 00:25:40,730 S1: as well. We'll continue on Moody Radio again. The website. 401 00:25:40,730 --> 00:25:49,090 S1: Chris Fabry live.org. The number is (877) 548-3675. More straight ahead. 402 00:26:05,450 --> 00:26:10,490 S1: He is founder and director of Eternal Perspective Ministries. Randy Alcorn, 403 00:26:10,530 --> 00:26:13,649 S1: joining us today at the Radio Backyard Fence. And if 404 00:26:13,650 --> 00:26:16,570 S1: you go to Chris Fabry live.org, you'll see the purity 405 00:26:16,570 --> 00:26:19,410 S1: principle as one of our links, as well as a 406 00:26:19,410 --> 00:26:25,050 S1: booklet for Christian leaders on sexual temptation. And the whole 407 00:26:25,050 --> 00:26:27,429 S1: reason we're doing this program is a few weeks ago, 408 00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:31,950 S1: Randy posted this idea. He said, I'm 71 now, he's 72. 409 00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:36,350 S1: But I take this idea of men and their sexual 410 00:26:36,350 --> 00:26:40,990 S1: integrity seriously, especially with those who are falling. So my 411 00:26:40,990 --> 00:26:44,150 S1: question was, what are the danger, snares and traps for 412 00:26:44,150 --> 00:26:46,590 S1: Christian men in their 70s? And women can get on 413 00:26:46,590 --> 00:26:51,150 S1: this too. And the very first answer was worry. Chuck 414 00:26:51,150 --> 00:26:55,630 S1: also said that worry. What would you say about worry Randy? 415 00:26:56,390 --> 00:27:01,870 S2: Well, it's interesting because the Greek word translated worry or 416 00:27:01,869 --> 00:27:06,510 S2: one of them, uh, literally is the dividing of the mind. 417 00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:11,670 S2: And so I think what happens is worry distracts us. 418 00:27:11,670 --> 00:27:17,270 S2: Worry concerns us sometimes obsesses us. Uh, it's got that 419 00:27:17,270 --> 00:27:23,230 S2: deeply emotional, um, you know, it aspect to it relates 420 00:27:23,230 --> 00:27:28,609 S2: to fear, to dread, and it doesn't work in our favor. 421 00:27:28,609 --> 00:27:32,770 S2: And that's why Jesus actually commands us not to worry. 422 00:27:32,770 --> 00:27:35,730 S2: And you think, well, everybody worries. And it's like, well, 423 00:27:35,730 --> 00:27:40,210 S2: everybody does. But that doesn't mean we should. We need 424 00:27:40,210 --> 00:27:43,210 S2: to have a bigger view of God. We need to 425 00:27:43,250 --> 00:27:47,129 S2: look at the sovereignty of God, trust God, and make 426 00:27:47,170 --> 00:27:51,970 S2: wise decisions. Because many of the worries we have, we 427 00:27:52,369 --> 00:27:57,810 S2: contribute to and sometimes create in their entirety, um, materialism, 428 00:27:57,850 --> 00:28:01,889 S2: you know, the love of money, all those kinds of things. And, 429 00:28:01,890 --> 00:28:08,450 S2: and certainly the love of money really relates to sexual immorality. Uh, statistically, 430 00:28:08,730 --> 00:28:14,450 S2: the greater an income someone has, the greater the chances of, uh, 431 00:28:14,690 --> 00:28:19,970 S2: them committing adultery. Uh, there's yeah, studies have proven that. Yeah. Wow. 432 00:28:20,410 --> 00:28:23,130 S1: Um, one more and then we'll go to your phone calls, uh, 433 00:28:23,150 --> 00:28:29,150 S1: not mentoring the younger generation, meaning just kind of coasting 434 00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:33,950 S1: along and not looking at the responsibility and the opportunity 435 00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:36,070 S1: you have to speak into the lives of those who 436 00:28:36,109 --> 00:28:38,670 S1: are coming up behind you. What do you say about that? 437 00:28:38,830 --> 00:28:42,310 S2: Oh boy, that is so true. And that's really convicting too, 438 00:28:42,350 --> 00:28:46,950 S2: because I have close relationship with my five grandsons who 439 00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:50,950 S2: are all teenagers or older. Um, one of them got 440 00:28:50,950 --> 00:28:55,190 S2: married last summer. Another one's getting married this summer. But these, 441 00:28:55,230 --> 00:28:58,830 S2: these are guys who, um, I look and I go, 442 00:28:58,870 --> 00:29:04,350 S2: have I recently, uh, sent articles their way, recommended something, 443 00:29:04,390 --> 00:29:08,070 S2: sent them a copy of, um, one of my books 444 00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:10,950 S2: or booklets that can be read on this. And then 445 00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:14,190 S2: I'm thinking I have with a few, but not with 446 00:29:14,190 --> 00:29:17,030 S2: some of the others. And it was convicting to me 447 00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:20,350 S2: when that was said, you know, the next generation. Yeah. 448 00:29:21,890 --> 00:29:24,450 S1: Areas in Florida. Gary, why did you call today? 449 00:29:25,690 --> 00:29:28,650 S3: Um, well, I was just going to share that, uh, 450 00:29:28,690 --> 00:29:32,330 S3: when I asked, um, I go on dating sites because, 451 00:29:32,410 --> 00:29:36,450 S3: you know, divorce and I asked, uh, married people, I go, 452 00:29:36,490 --> 00:29:39,450 S3: you know why people go like on match or dating 453 00:29:39,450 --> 00:29:42,730 S3: sites and they, they never know. And I go. Loneliness 454 00:29:42,730 --> 00:29:45,170 S3: drives everybody to the dating sites. 455 00:29:45,290 --> 00:29:45,810 S2: Right. 456 00:29:45,850 --> 00:29:49,410 S3: And that starts the process. If you if you're going 457 00:29:49,410 --> 00:29:52,610 S3: to get off track, you know, that's, that's why people 458 00:29:52,610 --> 00:29:54,290 S3: are there. It's very interesting. 459 00:29:54,810 --> 00:29:56,530 S1: Yeah. What do you say about that, Randy? 460 00:29:56,930 --> 00:30:02,650 S2: Oh, yeah. I mean, loneliness is, um, it's it's a 461 00:30:02,650 --> 00:30:05,810 S2: sickness of the soul. And I don't mean it's because 462 00:30:05,810 --> 00:30:10,490 S2: people are bad. I mean, everyone needs company. Everybody needs companionship, 463 00:30:10,490 --> 00:30:16,130 S2: everybody needs friendship. And there are good ways to, uh, 464 00:30:16,130 --> 00:30:18,610 S2: you know, find it and bad ways to find it. 465 00:30:18,770 --> 00:30:22,630 S2: And some people, uh, you know, meet other people at 466 00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:26,910 S2: church and an older singles group or whatever it might be. 467 00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:33,270 S2: And then, uh, they, the church can actually become a 468 00:30:33,310 --> 00:30:37,790 S2: sort of a, a means to pursuing an immoral relationship, 469 00:30:37,790 --> 00:30:40,590 S2: not because the church wants it to be that way 470 00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:43,270 S2: or anyone wants it to be that way. It's just 471 00:30:43,310 --> 00:30:46,910 S2: the fact of life. Uh, somebody who's been married before 472 00:30:47,550 --> 00:30:51,070 S2: is accustomed to maybe having had a sexual relationship that 473 00:30:51,070 --> 00:30:56,030 S2: they now, um, do not have. They miss it. And 474 00:30:56,030 --> 00:30:59,550 S2: so they have these desires and urges. And so a 475 00:30:59,590 --> 00:31:02,870 S2: lot of caution needs to take place and people need 476 00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:06,270 S2: to speak into each other's lives. And directors of those 477 00:31:06,270 --> 00:31:10,190 S2: ministries and churches, you know, certainly need to be very 478 00:31:10,190 --> 00:31:14,350 S2: alert to that and to warn people and encourage them be, 479 00:31:14,390 --> 00:31:18,270 S2: you know, to, to avoid immorality because, um, it is 480 00:31:18,270 --> 00:31:22,010 S2: not just that it's wrong. It's that it's stupid. It's 481 00:31:22,010 --> 00:31:26,610 S2: going to kill you, you know? He who, um, you know, 482 00:31:26,650 --> 00:31:30,970 S2: commits adultery. He who sleeps with another man's wife shall 483 00:31:30,970 --> 00:31:36,130 S2: not go unpunished. And those are the warnings of scripture. Yeah. 484 00:31:36,410 --> 00:31:39,530 S1: I think that's that's in Proverbs, right? Isn't that right? What? 485 00:31:39,530 --> 00:31:42,610 S1: You're coming. Okay, Gary, thanks for your call. Mike is 486 00:31:42,610 --> 00:31:44,650 S1: on the line. Mike, why did you call today? 487 00:31:45,810 --> 00:31:48,370 S4: Well, I stopped my car and pulled over when I 488 00:31:48,370 --> 00:31:53,330 S4: heard this. Because I'm going through the same thing, and 489 00:31:53,330 --> 00:31:57,250 S4: you've given me a lot of good advice. Uh, I mean, 490 00:31:57,290 --> 00:32:00,770 S4: a lot of good advice, and everything you're saying is true. 491 00:32:00,930 --> 00:32:05,690 S4: And I'm going through this grieving process and, um, I 492 00:32:06,010 --> 00:32:10,890 S4: tried to rationalize my thinking and, uh, it's I, I, 493 00:32:11,210 --> 00:32:14,410 S4: the devil tells me certain things and God tells me 494 00:32:14,450 --> 00:32:17,930 S4: the other and it's like, I'm going crazy here. Uh, 495 00:32:17,950 --> 00:32:21,230 S4: but I know what path I should be following, and 496 00:32:21,230 --> 00:32:23,590 S4: I know when God's telling me something, and I know 497 00:32:23,590 --> 00:32:26,830 S4: when the Satan's telling me something. And you know what? 498 00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:28,910 S4: I'm lonely. I'm lonely. 499 00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:29,310 S2: Yeah. 500 00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:33,590 S4: For my wife. And yeah, that's what Satan's working me at. 501 00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:36,270 S1: Well, how long has it been, Mike? How long has 502 00:32:36,270 --> 00:32:37,670 S1: it been since she passed away? 503 00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:40,870 S4: Oh, about a month and a half. Somewhere around. 504 00:32:40,870 --> 00:32:41,710 S5: There. Oh, wow. 505 00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:46,030 S4: Yeah. And, uh. So I want a woman, but then, God, 506 00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:49,110 S4: I'm saying, God, how do I get a woman? Oh, 507 00:32:49,270 --> 00:32:51,950 S4: go to church. You'll find a good Christian there, but 508 00:32:51,950 --> 00:32:55,110 S4: not necessarily I. There's hang ups there, too. If I'm 509 00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:58,190 S4: just trying to do that to get any woman. No, 510 00:32:58,230 --> 00:33:01,350 S4: I want God to lead me to the right woman, 511 00:33:01,350 --> 00:33:05,470 S4: not for me to be. Just get any woman because 512 00:33:05,470 --> 00:33:08,790 S4: I'm so lonely, you know, and miss my wife. So 513 00:33:09,070 --> 00:33:14,430 S4: everything you're saying is just unbelievable. I'm going through every 514 00:33:14,430 --> 00:33:18,650 S4: one of those things, but I'm trusting God, I'm trusting God. 515 00:33:18,650 --> 00:33:21,930 S4: And I do think that going to church, and that's 516 00:33:21,930 --> 00:33:24,970 S4: what I'm starting to do. Uh, going to church and 517 00:33:24,970 --> 00:33:31,450 S4: looking for a woman because I'm lonely as heck and, uh, um, yeah. And, um. 518 00:33:31,530 --> 00:33:34,209 S1: This program, Mike, Mike, the whole, the whole reason why 519 00:33:34,210 --> 00:33:36,330 S1: I did this program might be for you. Mike. I'm 520 00:33:36,330 --> 00:33:38,330 S1: just thinking every now and then I'll, I'll say I'll 521 00:33:38,330 --> 00:33:40,610 S1: hear a call or see, you know, a name up 522 00:33:40,610 --> 00:33:42,290 S1: here and a question. It's like, well, this is the 523 00:33:42,290 --> 00:33:46,170 S1: whole reason why Randy posted that almost a month ago 524 00:33:46,170 --> 00:33:49,250 S1: and I saw it. And here we are. So speak 525 00:33:49,250 --> 00:33:51,010 S1: into the life of Mike. Randy. 526 00:33:51,330 --> 00:33:55,530 S2: Yeah. I would say, um, do go to church. Go 527 00:33:55,530 --> 00:33:59,050 S2: to church, because the right thing to do first to 528 00:33:59,090 --> 00:34:02,970 S2: seek God. But that doesn't mean it ends with seeking God. 529 00:34:02,970 --> 00:34:05,290 S2: It begins with seeking God. And that should be the 530 00:34:05,290 --> 00:34:09,490 S2: center of it. But of course, we need human relationships. 531 00:34:09,489 --> 00:34:13,330 S2: The church is the body, the body of Christ. We 532 00:34:13,330 --> 00:34:17,110 S2: need to be connected with people. You have to be careful, 533 00:34:17,110 --> 00:34:21,229 S2: of course, because wow, you again, it's like we're talking 534 00:34:21,230 --> 00:34:25,350 S2: about fire and water, which can be so great. And man, 535 00:34:25,350 --> 00:34:29,109 S2: when they're out of control, um, they're devastating. So you 536 00:34:29,110 --> 00:34:34,910 S2: can end up just seeking companionship and friendship and it 537 00:34:34,910 --> 00:34:37,510 S2: can be innocent at first, but then you get into 538 00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:42,310 S2: a situation and before you know it, if you're committing immorality, 539 00:34:42,350 --> 00:34:46,950 S2: you're not only dishonoring God, you're not only hurting yourself, 540 00:34:46,989 --> 00:34:51,590 S2: you're hurting someone else. And this happens all the time. 541 00:34:51,870 --> 00:34:55,550 S2: So much of it is we're part of a culture where, 542 00:34:56,070 --> 00:34:58,830 S2: you know, it assimilates into the church the way it 543 00:34:58,830 --> 00:35:02,990 S2: does in society at large. I mean, the bar has 544 00:35:03,030 --> 00:35:08,550 S2: been lowered, the bar of morality has been lowered, and 545 00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:12,230 S2: people feel the freedom to do things that they didn't 546 00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:15,370 S2: used to feel the freedom to do now. It's always 547 00:35:15,370 --> 00:35:18,690 S2: been a problem, of course, but it's all the more 548 00:35:18,690 --> 00:35:24,330 S2: problem if you're if you start compromising. And this is 549 00:35:24,330 --> 00:35:27,130 S2: where we have to guard our hearts, guard our lives, 550 00:35:27,130 --> 00:35:30,410 S2: make wise choices. And one of the things I say 551 00:35:30,450 --> 00:35:36,370 S2: in my Sexual Temptation booklet is if you're on a diet, 552 00:35:36,370 --> 00:35:40,370 S2: don't go to a donut shop. You know, it's just like, 553 00:35:40,370 --> 00:35:42,410 S2: because what am I going to do? And don't read 554 00:35:42,410 --> 00:35:46,370 S2: donut magazines and don't read, you know, because, well, what 555 00:35:46,370 --> 00:35:48,170 S2: are you going to end up doing? You're going to 556 00:35:48,170 --> 00:35:51,089 S2: end up eating donuts. And if that's not what you 557 00:35:51,090 --> 00:35:51,370 S2: want to. 558 00:35:51,370 --> 00:35:54,210 S1: Do either, if you walk by the bakery, you know, 559 00:35:54,250 --> 00:35:58,010 S1: it's the same thing because that that aroma makes it 560 00:35:58,050 --> 00:36:02,090 S1: causes you to, but you can't you can't take away 561 00:36:02,090 --> 00:36:04,530 S1: the desire. And I hear it, Mike. It's like I, 562 00:36:04,570 --> 00:36:06,290 S1: I want to I want to love my wife. I 563 00:36:06,290 --> 00:36:08,330 S1: want a wife and I want to love her. But 564 00:36:08,330 --> 00:36:12,770 S1: I wonder if this situation. It's only been a month 565 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,600 S1: And Mike, God bless you. 566 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,480 S2: Um, yes. 567 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,680 S1: There will be people around the country who'll be praying 568 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,960 S1: for you. But is is it really is the need 569 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,759 S1: for a wife? Is there a woman I need a 570 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,719 S1: woman or is God? I need you to take the 571 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,520 S1: place of this, you know, to fill this hole in 572 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,880 S1: my soul that I am feeling right now. What do 573 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:36,760 S1: you say about that? 574 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,520 S2: Oh, I think that's so true because so often we 575 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,520 S2: think it's like when you you think, oh, I just 576 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,680 S2: want to buy a new house. I just want to 577 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,839 S2: buy a new car. And then what happens? You buy 578 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,399 S2: the new car and it does not fulfill your life. 579 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,560 S2: I mean, you have a month where you're feeling great, 580 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,960 S2: you know, and then, uh, and then something happens, you know, 581 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,920 S2: the car gets scratches or even if it doesn't get scratches, 582 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,320 S2: the point is, it just is not going to fill 583 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,120 S2: up your soul. So we're constantly like, it's an anesthetic 584 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,939 S2: we're going after different things that we think will fulfill us. 585 00:37:14,940 --> 00:37:18,100 S2: And you see it in Ecclesiastes and you just end 586 00:37:18,140 --> 00:37:23,500 S2: up empty. But the pursuit of God, the the God 587 00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:29,780 S2: in all of his goodness and holiness and grace and kindness. Um, 588 00:37:29,820 --> 00:37:32,660 S2: I think the friendship of Jesus has been huge for 589 00:37:32,660 --> 00:37:36,940 S2: me since Nancy died. Uh, he's always been my friend. Uh, 590 00:37:36,940 --> 00:37:39,580 S2: I no longer call you servants. I call you friends. Now, 591 00:37:39,580 --> 00:37:42,899 S2: of course, we still are servants. But he. Those were 592 00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:46,580 S2: his words. So, uh, that's what I'm saying. And and 593 00:37:46,580 --> 00:37:51,180 S2: the point is, the friendship of Jesus means so much 594 00:37:51,180 --> 00:37:55,980 S2: to me and brings me such great comfort and helps 595 00:37:55,980 --> 00:38:00,140 S2: me when I'm really missing. Nancy. Um, to say, you 596 00:38:00,140 --> 00:38:03,299 S2: know what? I don't have to have. God could give 597 00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:08,299 S2: me another relationship, but that, uh, remarriage, it's been four 598 00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:12,120 S2: years and I have not been anything close to that, 599 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,600 S2: but he still could do it if he wants to. 600 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,600 S2: But he's going to have to do it now. I 601 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,040 S2: don't think a lot of people realize the cost and 602 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:28,280 S2: the investment of us developing a new relationship, taking on 603 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:33,560 S2: new family members, growing kids and grandkids that may be 604 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,600 S2: on drugs. That may be. I mean, there's just there 605 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:44,000 S2: are so many complications to solving the loneliness problem prematurely 606 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,880 S2: or in the wrong way. Yeah. 607 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,160 S1: Father, thank you for Mike. Thank you for his heart, 608 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,279 S1: for the struggle that he's in. How's how honest he's 609 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,600 S1: been with us here today. I know there's somebody listening 610 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,120 S1: who's in that same situation who didn't call. But you 611 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,520 S1: gave Mike the courage to do that. So thank you 612 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,359 S1: for the desire that he has, the good desire that 613 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,640 S1: he has for a relationship, and that he wants to 614 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,540 S1: honor you with it. Would you draw very close to 615 00:39:09,580 --> 00:39:12,819 S1: him right now? And would you give him encouragement? And 616 00:39:12,820 --> 00:39:15,900 S1: thank you for my friends who are praying for Mike 617 00:39:15,940 --> 00:39:19,259 S1: and I pray in Jesus name, Mike. Hang on. I 618 00:39:19,260 --> 00:39:22,700 S1: want to get your information. Randy Alcorn's with us today. 619 00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:26,259 S1: There are more struggles of Christian men in their 70s 620 00:39:26,260 --> 00:39:28,339 S1: and women as well. And we're going to talk about 621 00:39:28,340 --> 00:39:31,940 S1: those and more coming up straight ahead, the websites. Chris 622 00:39:31,980 --> 00:39:47,140 S1: Farrell dot ORG. The two Michaels are going to join 623 00:39:47,140 --> 00:39:49,380 S1: us right here at the Radio Backyard Fence tomorrow. If 624 00:39:49,380 --> 00:39:51,540 S1: you got a Bible question that is burning a hole 625 00:39:51,540 --> 00:39:53,899 S1: in your soul, you got to call us. You got 626 00:39:53,940 --> 00:39:57,060 S1: to get involved with the two Michaels here on Chris 627 00:39:57,100 --> 00:40:00,700 S1: Fabry Live today. It's Randy Alcorn who posted on social 628 00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:05,340 S1: media this this thing that really caught my eye at 72. 629 00:40:05,380 --> 00:40:09,000 S1: He's saying I need to guard my heart against sexual temptation, 630 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,200 S1: whatever that means. What are the other temptations? Um, there 631 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,800 S1: are there are a lot of people who are talking 632 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:21,040 S1: about isolation and about lust and pride. Um, Kim says, 633 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,960 S1: coasting to the end, not using those years well to 634 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,480 S1: further the gospel, to meet needs around them. Thinking that 635 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,200 S1: you're not relevant enough or spry enough to make a 636 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:36,160 S1: difference in your church or your neighborhood or your extended family. Uh, 637 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,400 S1: we have a group in our church called Men of Mercy. 638 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,239 S1: They've kept my dad busy through his 70s and into 639 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,200 S1: his 80s. They helped single women and widows with whatever 640 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,879 S1: they need around the house or with their car. It's 641 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,200 S1: a blessing to everyone involved. So the lie is you 642 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,400 S1: get to a certain age, you're not going to struggle 643 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,359 S1: with that or you're not relevant anymore. We don't need 644 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,399 S1: you around. That's not true, is it? 645 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,080 S2: No, it is not. And I remember years ago, and 646 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,300 S2: many people will probably remember this if they're familiar with 647 00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:10,060 S2: John Piper and his ministry, but when he wrote the book, 648 00:41:10,060 --> 00:41:14,220 S2: Don't Waste Your Life. Um, and was speaking at, uh, 649 00:41:14,260 --> 00:41:17,899 S2: passion conferences and different places about this and told the 650 00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:23,580 S2: story of, uh, you know, a guy who retires, uh, 651 00:41:23,580 --> 00:41:28,939 S2: and now he's spending his time picking up seashells on 652 00:41:28,940 --> 00:41:31,779 S2: a beach. Now, that doesn't mean it's wrong to pick 653 00:41:31,820 --> 00:41:34,220 S2: up seashells on a beach. Okay, that's not the point. 654 00:41:34,260 --> 00:41:38,060 S2: But the point is, the new passion in life is 655 00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:40,739 S2: just picking up seashells, just going out every day of 656 00:41:40,739 --> 00:41:44,459 S2: the beach. And, and it could be golf, it could 657 00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:48,100 S2: be whatever it might be, things that are not bad 658 00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:51,379 S2: in and of themselves. But is that what you want 659 00:41:51,380 --> 00:41:53,700 S2: to do with your life? Is that the high calling 660 00:41:53,739 --> 00:41:58,180 S2: of God for your life in retirement? You should actually 661 00:41:58,180 --> 00:42:02,780 S2: give you more opportunity than you've ever had to serve Jesus. 662 00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:05,400 S2: I mean, in some respects, I mean, of course you. 663 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,600 S2: You serve Jesus through the job that you have. But 664 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,120 S2: the point is, there's a freedom to choose more broadly now. 665 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,879 S2: And I can go here, I can do this, I 666 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,520 S2: can volunteer with this organization. And you can do you 667 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,640 S2: can be used of God to do great things in 668 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,840 S2: people's lives. And I know a lot of retired men 669 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,319 S2: and women who are serving God in beautiful ways and 670 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,920 S2: finding great joy in them, but I know a lot 671 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,840 S2: of others that are sitting in front of a television 672 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,080 S2: or just doing all kinds of stuff, uh, that's supposed 673 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,239 S2: to bring them satisfaction, but just doesn't. 674 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,640 S1: And they don't like it and they don't want to 675 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,040 S1: live that way. But it's hard to it's like we 676 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,520 S1: had Alan Parr on, on Monday and the enemy's lie was, 677 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,600 S1: you could never change. This is going to be the 678 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,399 S1: way whatever addiction you have, this is the way it's 679 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,800 S1: always going to be. And that's not true. Um, Jill said, 680 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,880 S1: I'd say the same issues bother women as well. Isolation, 681 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,980 S1: not feeling valued, worrying about the what ifs. You know 682 00:43:06,020 --> 00:43:08,980 S1: my health fails. I become a burden to those I love. 683 00:43:08,980 --> 00:43:11,819 S1: I have to give up driving or my home of 684 00:43:11,820 --> 00:43:15,899 S1: many years. The older generation is deemed ignorant these days 685 00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:18,540 S1: by TV and movies. No longer are we honored for 686 00:43:18,540 --> 00:43:21,380 S1: living a life and sharing what we've learned along the way. 687 00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:24,900 S1: So the next generation learns from it. We're kind of 688 00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:30,260 S1: marginalized and and pushed aside. So you can you can 689 00:43:30,260 --> 00:43:34,380 S1: stay in that, you know, or you can say, no, I'm, 690 00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:36,700 S1: I'm not going to live. I'm not going to be 691 00:43:36,700 --> 00:43:40,700 S1: a victim to that. I'm going to transcend it. But 692 00:43:40,700 --> 00:43:43,140 S1: that takes some courage and fortitude, doesn't it? 693 00:43:43,660 --> 00:43:47,860 S2: It does. And it takes it takes initiative on our part. Um, 694 00:43:48,260 --> 00:43:51,420 S2: the courage to step into somebody's life and say, hey, 695 00:43:51,620 --> 00:43:54,020 S2: just so you know, I'm like, I'm your next door 696 00:43:54,020 --> 00:43:57,100 S2: neighbor and I'm retired or whatever it is. I see 697 00:43:57,100 --> 00:44:00,020 S2: you out here working on your lawn. I've got more 698 00:44:00,020 --> 00:44:02,380 S2: time than I used to. Would you like some help 699 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,640 S2: with some of the projects around here. And I mean, 700 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,720 S2: most people aren't going to turn that down. Uh, I mean, honestly, 701 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,760 S2: I wouldn't turn it down. Me either, you know? Yeah. 702 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,920 S2: Let me let me give everybody my phone number now. 703 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,239 S2: And so they'll call me and, and help me on 704 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,040 S2: my lawn. But no, but seriously, it's, it's like something 705 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,560 S2: where you, you go. And while we work on our 706 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,120 S2: lawn together, we can share life together. We. And it 707 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,920 S2: can meet your needs. It can meet my needs. It 708 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,640 S2: can meet I. I've been in a group the last 709 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,879 S2: four years since, uh, Nancy died for most of that time, 710 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,720 S2: been in a group of, uh, eight guys and the next, uh, 711 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,600 S2: you know, oldest guy in the group is 20 years 712 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,880 S2: younger than I am. And then it goes all the 713 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,359 S2: way down to a couple of guys. Well, one in 714 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,000 S2: the 20s, 20s, and one in his 30s. Most of 715 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,080 S2: the guys are in their 40s. And so here I am, 716 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,140 S2: the old guy. But what a privilege to be with 717 00:45:02,140 --> 00:45:05,060 S2: these guys. It's so fun. I mean, it's good for me. 718 00:45:05,300 --> 00:45:07,820 S2: I hope it's good for them because I can bring 719 00:45:07,860 --> 00:45:13,940 S2: some life experience and ministry experience to a couple more pastors. Um, 720 00:45:13,980 --> 00:45:17,739 S2: that maybe is of some value to them. But meanwhile, 721 00:45:17,780 --> 00:45:20,100 S2: my needs are being met as well. 722 00:45:20,460 --> 00:45:22,980 S1: Bingo. It is such a treat to get to talk 723 00:45:22,980 --> 00:45:24,859 S1: with you. Randy, thank you for being available. I know 724 00:45:24,860 --> 00:45:27,580 S1: you're busy and you're traveling around. You're speaking and the 725 00:45:27,580 --> 00:45:31,259 S1: Atlanta thing. Friends look up the The Passion City church 726 00:45:31,580 --> 00:45:34,940 S1: where Randy spoke and watched those videos that have come out. 727 00:45:34,940 --> 00:45:38,700 S1: It'll it'll touch you deeply. But for you to write 728 00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:41,740 S1: about this and then come on here and talk. I 729 00:45:41,780 --> 00:45:44,180 S1: can see from the response of folks that people are 730 00:45:44,460 --> 00:45:48,460 S1: very thankful and grateful to you. Keep doing what you're doing, friend, 731 00:45:48,460 --> 00:45:51,380 S1: and in the fall, you're coming back because there's a 732 00:45:51,380 --> 00:45:54,980 S1: book that you've written about animals, I believe. 733 00:45:55,020 --> 00:45:57,700 S2: That's right. All God's Creatures is coming out. 734 00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:00,320 S1: Oh, it's going to be so fun. All right, Randy. 735 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,240 S1: God bless you. Come back and see us, okay. 736 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:03,120 S2: You too. Chris. 737 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,239 S1: His name is Randy Alcorn, and you can find out 738 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,960 S1: more about him at Chris Fabry live.org. We have a 739 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,759 S1: link to his book, The Purity Principle, as well as 740 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,839 S1: that booklet for Christian leaders on sexual temptation. Click through 741 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,920 S1: today's information right there. Chris Fabry live.org. You can also 742 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,760 S1: support the program and get a copy of the Doctor 743 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,520 S1: John Perkins book One Blood, as we mentioned a little earlier. 744 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,440 S1: And come on back tomorrow because guess who's going to 745 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,839 S1: be here. I can't wait. It's always fun to have 746 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,800 S1: the two Michaels with us. Doctor Michael Rudnick, Doctor Michael Vanlandingham, 747 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,960 S1: we will take your questions about the Bible, the Christian life, 748 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,480 S1: and a whole lot more right here on Chris Fabry Live, 749 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,600 S1: which is a production of Moody Radio, a Ministry of 750 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,320 S1: Moody Bible Institute. Thanks for listening.