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S3: One of those mornings, you know, you get out and

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S2: That's cool. Tractor day. You kind of grew up in

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S3: You would, uh. No. No one else. So far, Carl

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S3: So, what do you get when you go and sign

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S6: Okay, so freedom appointment. Uh, it was created by Doctor

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S6: They don't and they just want to be free. So

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00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:56,429
S6: we're like, here, we're going to put you on a

450
00:22:56,430 --> 00:22:58,510
S6: zoom call. We're going to spend the day with you.

451
00:22:59,109 --> 00:23:01,430
S6: And we have people calling from all over the world,

452
00:23:01,710 --> 00:23:04,670
S6: and they are getting set free from deep, dark stuff.

453
00:23:04,830 --> 00:23:08,710
S6: And a lot of it starts with family. We've been hurt, right? Yeah.

454
00:23:08,750 --> 00:23:10,830
S6: First question I have for anyone I if I go

455
00:23:10,830 --> 00:23:15,030
S6: to a jail, what's my first question. Tell me about

456
00:23:15,030 --> 00:23:22,050
S6: your daddy. What? Tell me about your daddy. Yeah. What

457
00:23:22,050 --> 00:23:24,169
S6: do you mean? Tell me about your daddy. Do you

458
00:23:24,170 --> 00:23:26,810
S6: hate him? Are you angry at him? Yeah, I am.

459
00:23:26,850 --> 00:23:29,649
S6: I says so then you had to turn into a rebel, right?

460
00:23:29,730 --> 00:23:34,290
S6: He goes. Yeah, well that's witchcraft. First Samuel 15, verse 23.

461
00:23:34,330 --> 00:23:37,609
S6: Rebellion is the sin of witchcraft. And then you have

462
00:23:37,609 --> 00:23:39,090
S6: all this noise in your head, and then you had

463
00:23:39,090 --> 00:23:41,850
S6: to medicate the noise. Right? And they're like, yeah. I says, well,

464
00:23:41,850 --> 00:23:45,290
S6: that's first Peter five eight. Well what's that? Be sober,

465
00:23:45,330 --> 00:23:48,689
S6: be vigilant. Your adversary, the devil, as a roaring lion

466
00:23:48,690 --> 00:23:52,690
S6: seeking whom he may devour. Now, 90% of you guys

467
00:23:52,690 --> 00:23:54,689
S6: in this prison right now have one thing in common.

468
00:23:54,690 --> 00:23:58,130
S6: What is it? They don't know. I says you don't know.

469
00:23:58,130 --> 00:24:03,090
S6: First Peter five eight and they're like, what? I says, 90%

470
00:24:03,090 --> 00:24:05,050
S6: of you were drunk and high when you committed the

471
00:24:05,050 --> 00:24:08,810
S6: crime that put you here. You got you got punked

472
00:24:08,810 --> 00:24:11,650
S6: and pawned by an enemy you don't know. Now raise

473
00:24:11,650 --> 00:24:17,910
S6: your hands. It's always 90% in Africa and In India

474
00:24:18,109 --> 00:24:22,110
S6: and in USA, it's always 90%. I said you got

475
00:24:22,109 --> 00:24:24,510
S6: punked by an enemy you do not know. How about

476
00:24:24,510 --> 00:24:27,390
S6: you guys? You want to be free? I said 75%

477
00:24:27,390 --> 00:24:29,510
S6: of you guys are coming back here because you don't

478
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:32,590
S6: know the rules and you don't have the tools. You

479
00:24:32,590 --> 00:24:35,310
S6: better know the rules and you better have the tools

480
00:24:35,310 --> 00:24:37,950
S6: or you're going down. There's a real enemy and you

481
00:24:37,990 --> 00:24:38,750
S6: got punked.

482
00:24:39,710 --> 00:24:44,430
S1: Dean, I gotta tell you, bro, you are a straight shooting,

483
00:24:44,590 --> 00:24:49,909
S1: no silver tongue, smooth talking, passionate. I mean, it's just

484
00:24:49,910 --> 00:24:53,230
S1: oozing out of you, bro. And God in his providence

485
00:24:53,230 --> 00:24:55,990
S1: had you here for a reason today on this Freedom Friday.

486
00:24:56,030 --> 00:24:56,389
S8: Yeah.

487
00:24:56,430 --> 00:24:58,590
S6: School of hard knocks, bro. Yeah.

488
00:24:58,910 --> 00:25:01,950
S1: Yeah. You went to the same one I did. All right.

489
00:25:01,990 --> 00:25:06,510
S1: This is something you gotta get. Ali, this is sobering,

490
00:25:06,510 --> 00:25:06,950
S1: isn't it?

491
00:25:06,990 --> 00:25:09,989
S3: It is. Now, you want this download? I know if

492
00:25:09,990 --> 00:25:12,270
S3: you want more on set free ministries and also the

493
00:25:12,270 --> 00:25:14,910
S3: steps to freedom download, we've got that for you. Just

494
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S3: text free to (800) 555-7898. Just text that one word free

495
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S3: to (800) 555-7898.

496
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,720
S4: You are listening to the cast and crew showcased. I'm

497
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,280
S4: Diana Super Di and so glad you've tuned in. Just

498
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S4: a bit of a intermission. You know you can hear

499
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S4: us live weekday mornings from 5 to 9 central. That's right,

500
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S4: Carl and crew. Weekday mornings 5 to 9 central with

501
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S4: all the great ways to hear us. Just check it

502
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S4: out at Carl and crew for now. Back to the

503
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S4: Carl and crew showcased.

504
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,639
S5: Breaking chains and running free. You're listening to Carl and crew.

505
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,560
S1: Uh, I can't go any further without reminding everyone of

506
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,840
S1: this key word, because there's some of you going, hold it,

507
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,479
S1: time out. I had just gotten my phone out and

508
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,320
S1: I didn't get it. And on this Freedom Friday, this

509
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S1: is a resource you want to get.

510
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:16,820
S3: Text free to 805 557898 walks through those steps to

511
00:26:16,859 --> 00:26:19,620
S3: freedom that our guest talked about. Dean Vanderbei with Set

512
00:26:19,619 --> 00:26:24,899
S3: Free Ministry. Just text free to (800) 555-7898.

513
00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:27,619
S1: You know, we opened up that interview with Dean, and

514
00:26:27,619 --> 00:26:30,260
S1: if you didn't get it, oh, you got to get it.

515
00:26:30,260 --> 00:26:32,820
S1: So use our show cast, text the word show to

516
00:26:32,859 --> 00:26:36,020
S1: the same number, please. You got to hear the whole thing.

517
00:26:36,020 --> 00:26:40,340
S1: It's that powerful. But we we began with comparing and

518
00:26:40,340 --> 00:26:43,860
S1: contrasting what it is to be free from something and

519
00:26:43,859 --> 00:26:47,860
S1: then finding freedom into the King of Kings and Lord

520
00:26:47,859 --> 00:26:50,979
S1: of lords. And those are two totally different things. It's. Well,

521
00:26:50,980 --> 00:26:53,580
S1: it's kind of like the nation of Israel. They got

522
00:26:53,580 --> 00:26:58,020
S1: set free from Pharaoh's clutches, but it was 40 years

523
00:26:58,020 --> 00:27:02,220
S1: before they stepped into the destiny of their ultimate freedom.

524
00:27:02,460 --> 00:27:04,780
S3: Yeah, I hadn't thought about it like that, but it's

525
00:27:04,780 --> 00:27:07,700
S3: it's true. And I'm wondering if there's other biblical examples

526
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:10,580
S3: that are that are like that. Is that a pattern

527
00:27:10,580 --> 00:27:12,679
S3: that we see in Scripture? Just kind of thinking in

528
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,360
S3: real time.

529
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,119
S1: Yeah, it's interesting because that's theologically what we have in

530
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:23,080
S1: first Thessalonians one verse nine through 11. You have left

531
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,680
S1: set down your idols and have turned to God. So

532
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,080
S1: one is letting go of this, taken hold of that.

533
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,240
S1: And so there is that all throughout Scripture. It's fascinating.

534
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,800
S1: So I and I want to illustrate this for you

535
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,159
S1: in a couple of ways that are, quite frankly, very

536
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,520
S1: humbling and embarrassing. If it wasn't for the fact that

537
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,600
S1: God's grace even covered this up, uh, young man drinking

538
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,680
S1: heavy partying like an animal found myself in Naknek, Alaska,

539
00:27:53,720 --> 00:28:00,200
S1: the budding big, booming town of Naknek, Alaska. Now, as

540
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,080
S1: you can imagine, Allie's laughing away here. I don't know

541
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,640
S1: what the population of Naknek, Alaska is. Somebody pulled that

542
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,200
S1: up for me. You ain't Young Thunder.

543
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,080
S3: As opposed to Nick Nack.

544
00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:14,580
S1: Yeah, as opposed to Nick NAC. It's nac. Nick n

545
00:28:14,580 --> 00:28:20,340
S1: a k n e k uh population is in 2023.

546
00:28:20,380 --> 00:28:22,300
S2: It was 458.

547
00:28:22,460 --> 00:28:26,140
S1: Okay, there you go. Now in the summertime, because it's

548
00:28:26,140 --> 00:28:29,419
S1: a commercial fishing grounds, this thing blows up. I mean,

549
00:28:29,460 --> 00:28:32,939
S1: gets big. I would imagine in the summertime, just because

550
00:28:32,940 --> 00:28:35,660
S1: of all the canneries and college students that are there

551
00:28:35,940 --> 00:28:41,500
S1: processing sockeye salmon, that's probably it's got to be thousands.

552
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:45,340
S1: So it multiplies many times over. And right up the

553
00:28:45,340 --> 00:28:49,300
S1: road is Fisherman's Bar right there, man, and it is

554
00:28:50,380 --> 00:28:55,780
S1: a zoo. So I get hammered one night drunk off

555
00:28:55,780 --> 00:28:59,620
S1: my keister, and I made a bad decision, and I

556
00:28:59,620 --> 00:29:02,740
S1: broke down a door at a hotel. And I do

557
00:29:02,740 --> 00:29:05,260
S1: want to go to bat for myself for a little bit. I,

558
00:29:05,380 --> 00:29:10,400
S1: I was totally out of it, and I wasn't. I

559
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,560
S1: was actually part of the story that I leave out

560
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,400
S1: is I walked past the front desk and no one

561
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,320
S1: was there because it's middle of the night, but I

562
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,280
S1: needed some place to crash. I was disoriented and everything.

563
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,360
S1: I went and knocked on a door and nobody answered,

564
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,480
S1: and I could barely put the pieces together, but I

565
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,320
S1: put a shoulder into the door, broke the jamb open,

566
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,960
S1: found no one in the room, and decided I'm going

567
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,120
S1: to crash. Well, I wake up in the morning, Ali,

568
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:40,360
S1: and I am absolutely crushed with shame. I'm not a

569
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S1: follower of Jesus by any stretch of the imagination, but

570
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,800
S1: I am crushed because I was raised to know right

571
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:53,000
S1: from wrong. And I was so convicted. And my first

572
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,800
S1: thought is, I got to get out of here, get

573
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,120
S1: some money, get back here and get get the owners

574
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,560
S1: paid to get this door fixed and everything. And I

575
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,320
S1: was freaking out, man. I was freaking out walking down

576
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,660
S1: the road and the lone police car in Naknek, Alaska,

577
00:30:09,700 --> 00:30:11,740
S1: pulls up behind me as I'm walking down the road

578
00:30:12,980 --> 00:30:15,980
S1: and I'm headed for a bank, and I try to

579
00:30:15,980 --> 00:30:18,140
S1: tell the police officer I'm heading for a bank. This

580
00:30:18,140 --> 00:30:21,820
S1: is what I'm doing. He says, you know what? I

581
00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:25,220
S1: actually believe you, but I gotta take you in. I've

582
00:30:25,220 --> 00:30:29,220
S1: never been taken in to a police station. And it's

583
00:30:29,220 --> 00:30:31,260
S1: the walk of shame because you know how far the

584
00:30:31,260 --> 00:30:35,140
S1: police station was from where we were stopped? About 400ft.

585
00:30:35,740 --> 00:30:37,100
S1: It's a small town.

586
00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:38,700
S2: Right? Everything's close together.

587
00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:42,860
S1: Everything's close. Now people are looking at me, and I'm

588
00:30:42,860 --> 00:30:47,140
S1: getting marched to the police station, and I just got

589
00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:49,660
S1: my head down. It's a walk of shame. I get

590
00:30:49,660 --> 00:30:52,260
S1: in there and they fingerprint me.

591
00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:53,620
S3: Oh, man.

592
00:30:54,420 --> 00:30:59,460
S1: They fingerprint me. The owner of the hotel comes, and

593
00:30:59,460 --> 00:31:03,660
S1: I said, man, I'm sorry. He's ticked. Rightly so. And

594
00:31:03,660 --> 00:31:06,440
S1: I said, I don't know what the I can assure

595
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,960
S1: you this, I don't I don't know what the cost is,

596
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,560
S1: but I'm paying you for every bit of it. Labor,

597
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,400
S1: putting you out everything. And he says, just give me $500.

598
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,600
S1: And so I needed to go get that money. In

599
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,720
S1: a moment of grace, this police officer looked at me,

600
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,520
S1: and now they've got me headed for the bars. I'm

601
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,960
S1: going behind the bars.

602
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,320
S3: Oh.

603
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:40,120
S1: Yeah. And he said, listen, I've got to mark this down.

604
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,320
S1: This is going to be on your record, but I'm

605
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,800
S1: not going to throw you in jail. Just go down

606
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,760
S1: to the bank and get this thing made right. And

607
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,640
S1: I said, thank you so much. When I walked out

608
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,120
S1: of there, I was embarrassed, but man, I was free.

609
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,520
S1: Can you feel that with me?

610
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,880
S2: Oh, the relief of, you know, not not sitting behind

611
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,800
S2: there for a long time, the relief of, you know,

612
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,700
S2: I don't know how old you were, but not, hey,

613
00:32:03,740 --> 00:32:05,460
S2: we're going to call your parents and get them to

614
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:07,300
S2: come pick you up. Anything like that. It was just.

615
00:32:07,340 --> 00:32:10,820
S1: It was not a parent situation. I was probably 20

616
00:32:10,860 --> 00:32:16,060
S1: on the nose, 20 years old. Yeah, not my finest moment,

617
00:32:16,460 --> 00:32:20,860
S1: but the relief I felt not having to be bound

618
00:32:20,860 --> 00:32:24,540
S1: to that by going to a bank and drawing out

619
00:32:24,540 --> 00:32:27,380
S1: some money and getting this thing squared away. And by

620
00:32:27,380 --> 00:32:29,460
S1: the way, 500 bucks when I was 20 was a

621
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:32,300
S1: lot of dough, Ali. A lot of money.

622
00:32:32,740 --> 00:32:35,780
S3: Yeah, I mean that that is especially 20 years old.

623
00:32:37,140 --> 00:32:39,100
S1: And do you know how easy it was for me

624
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:40,300
S1: to withdraw that money?

625
00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:42,780
S7: That was simple, man.

626
00:32:43,860 --> 00:32:46,580
S1: That was simple. And I marched it down to the hotel,

627
00:32:46,580 --> 00:32:50,460
S1: and I put it in the guy's hand. And it's

628
00:32:50,460 --> 00:32:53,260
S1: really funny. I hadn't remembered this until right now. That

629
00:32:53,260 --> 00:32:57,540
S1: little encounter. I can remember the orange Formica counter at

630
00:32:57,580 --> 00:33:01,990
S1: that hotel. And I looked across that counter and I

631
00:33:02,030 --> 00:33:03,990
S1: got a tear in my eye and I said, I'm

632
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:08,990
S1: really sorry, and I promise I will never do that again.

633
00:33:09,710 --> 00:33:12,670
S1: And he reached out and he tapped me on the shoulder.

634
00:33:12,670 --> 00:33:14,710
S1: He said, go get your life cleaned up, kid.

635
00:33:16,470 --> 00:33:16,870
S3: Poof.

636
00:33:18,510 --> 00:33:22,150
S1: There was some relief in that. So it's one thing

637
00:33:22,190 --> 00:33:27,310
S1: to feel relief when you haven't paid a penalty or

638
00:33:27,310 --> 00:33:29,830
S1: you have paid it, and now you're not having to

639
00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:36,710
S1: do jail time. But when you step into freedom and

640
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:40,150
S1: in our case, here with Carl and crew. Yeah. Carl,

641
00:33:40,190 --> 00:33:42,550
S1: 20 year old Carl is now leading the show called

642
00:33:42,550 --> 00:33:45,790
S1: Carl and Crew, helping you take your next step with Jesus.

643
00:33:46,550 --> 00:33:49,350
S1: We want to just discuss and explore what it is

644
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:52,830
S1: to not just be free from something, but to be

645
00:33:52,830 --> 00:33:56,550
S1: freed into that abundant life in Christ.

646
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:59,670
S5: You can take him out of Alaska, but you can't

647
00:33:59,710 --> 00:34:03,610
S5: take Alaska out of him. Carl is in the crew.

648
00:34:03,810 --> 00:34:06,970
S5: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio. So.

649
00:34:07,810 --> 00:34:14,450
S1: Getting set free from consequence. Getting something that you did wrong. Remedied.

650
00:34:14,450 --> 00:34:17,530
S1: Making it right. Like I had to when I broke

651
00:34:17,530 --> 00:34:20,730
S1: down the door. As a young man in Naknek, Alaska,

652
00:34:20,730 --> 00:34:23,169
S1: of a hotel looking for a place to try to

653
00:34:23,210 --> 00:34:29,490
S1: sleep off a pretty serious drunk. Yeah, that was freeing.

654
00:34:29,489 --> 00:34:32,969
S1: When I made right what I had made so wrong.

655
00:34:33,690 --> 00:34:36,650
S1: But then there's a whole nother level of freedom. It's

656
00:34:36,650 --> 00:34:41,250
S1: not like Israel moving out of captivity and getting freed

657
00:34:41,250 --> 00:34:46,489
S1: from the clutches of evil, but moving on into the

658
00:34:46,489 --> 00:34:50,169
S1: Promised Land, not wandering in the sands of spiritual ambiguity.

659
00:34:50,210 --> 00:34:53,330
S1: And that's what we want for you with Carl and crew.

660
00:34:53,770 --> 00:34:57,489
S2: I think something that is really cool about this story, Carl,

661
00:34:57,530 --> 00:34:59,549
S2: because you're right, there was a sense of relief when you,

662
00:34:59,590 --> 00:35:01,509
S2: you know, you found out you weren't going to have

663
00:35:01,510 --> 00:35:03,149
S2: to be kept in jail. You know, it was on

664
00:35:03,150 --> 00:35:05,189
S2: your record, but but it wasn't going to go any

665
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:07,149
S2: further than that. And you were able to go make

666
00:35:07,150 --> 00:35:11,310
S2: it right. But then what you just shared where you

667
00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:15,350
S2: apologized to the guy for your mistake and he gave

668
00:35:15,350 --> 00:35:19,110
S2: you forgiveness, putting his hand on your shoulder, telling you

669
00:35:19,110 --> 00:35:21,190
S2: to go get your life cleaned up. There was no

670
00:35:21,190 --> 00:35:24,670
S2: more condemnation on you. There was no more shame on you.

671
00:35:24,670 --> 00:35:27,589
S2: It just was. It was forgiveness. And you were able

672
00:35:27,590 --> 00:35:30,630
S2: to walk free in that. And I think that that's a,

673
00:35:30,989 --> 00:35:34,190
S2: you know, a the, the freedom we have in Christ

674
00:35:34,190 --> 00:35:36,510
S2: and where it comes from and how we get into

675
00:35:36,510 --> 00:35:39,630
S2: that promised land is, yeah, we recognize we make mistakes.

676
00:35:39,630 --> 00:35:42,029
S2: We feel relief when we have the ability to make

677
00:35:42,030 --> 00:35:46,870
S2: things right, but then to receive the forgiveness, to receive

678
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:51,910
S2: the hey, I'm not holding this against you. Let's walk.

679
00:35:52,190 --> 00:35:54,270
S2: And now you just have the freedom to go walk

680
00:35:54,270 --> 00:35:55,989
S2: into the promised land. I think that's where it all

681
00:35:55,989 --> 00:35:56,770
S2: comes from.

682
00:35:57,170 --> 00:35:57,530
S7: Yeah.

683
00:35:57,570 --> 00:35:59,890
S1: I mean, at the end of the day, if we

684
00:35:59,930 --> 00:36:04,010
S1: don't get freedom from this, whatever this is, we can't

685
00:36:04,050 --> 00:36:06,770
S1: take hold of that. No, but God doesn't want to

686
00:36:06,770 --> 00:36:08,730
S1: leave us in that middle zone either. Does he.

687
00:36:09,090 --> 00:36:12,370
S3: Know? And when we think about forgiveness for the sin

688
00:36:12,370 --> 00:36:15,850
S3: of our life, and all of us have it, we can't.

689
00:36:16,170 --> 00:36:19,730
S3: Forgiveness from people only goes so far. So it's wonderful

690
00:36:19,730 --> 00:36:22,930
S3: when we can have a relationship restored because there's forgiveness.

691
00:36:23,130 --> 00:36:26,410
S3: But so much of life we live with, things that

692
00:36:26,410 --> 00:36:30,850
S3: can't be undone, can't be made right. We can't receive

693
00:36:30,850 --> 00:36:34,170
S3: forgiveness from the person that we offended. We can't make

694
00:36:34,170 --> 00:36:36,730
S3: right the thing that we did, maybe that nobody even

695
00:36:36,730 --> 00:36:39,930
S3: knows about. And so you can find yourself in a

696
00:36:39,930 --> 00:36:45,690
S3: place of such massive regret and condemnation. Sometimes bitterness can creep,

697
00:36:45,730 --> 00:36:49,490
S3: creep in because we were not given the opportunity to

698
00:36:49,650 --> 00:36:53,170
S3: receive forgiveness, or we were the ones sinned against, and

699
00:36:53,170 --> 00:36:54,770
S3: there was never an apology.

700
00:36:55,390 --> 00:36:58,629
S1: So it's guilt. It's shame. It's all this stuff that

701
00:36:58,670 --> 00:37:01,830
S1: leaves us in this funky thing. It's like we can't.

702
00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:06,750
S1: We experience some sense of freedom. But real freedom is

703
00:37:06,750 --> 00:37:13,350
S1: found when the King of Kings declares us innocent.

704
00:37:13,590 --> 00:37:15,870
S3: So who do you go to? There's only one that

705
00:37:15,870 --> 00:37:18,750
S3: you can go to if you really want to receive forgiveness.

706
00:37:18,790 --> 00:37:22,549
S3: If you really want to have a clean slate. New mercy.

707
00:37:22,590 --> 00:37:26,310
S3: You can't get that in any single person. You find

708
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:28,550
S3: it in Jesus Christ, him and him alone.

709
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:33,709
S1: Today, I want you to take whatever regrets you have

710
00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:37,469
S1: from the past, whatever pain you have, and it could be,

711
00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:41,070
S1: as Ali said, some injustice that was done to you.

712
00:37:41,390 --> 00:37:44,149
S1: And you're out from under that yoke right now, but

713
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:47,230
S1: you're still kind of on the hook, as it were.

714
00:37:47,870 --> 00:37:52,550
S1: And God wants to set you free. He's the one

715
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:57,930
S1: who delivers you. He breaks every yoke. The prophet Isaiah said,

716
00:37:58,570 --> 00:38:00,649
S1: I don't know how that's going to look for you,

717
00:38:00,650 --> 00:38:03,090
S1: but I know who can do it. His name is Jesus.

718
00:38:03,130 --> 00:38:05,690
S1: Get some time with him right now. Even if you

719
00:38:05,690 --> 00:38:08,609
S1: have to turn off this radio show. Right, Ali? That's more.

720
00:38:08,610 --> 00:38:11,250
S3: Important. You have our permission and our blessing.

721
00:38:12,450 --> 00:38:16,370
S1: Find freedom today. Get close to God and he will

722
00:38:16,370 --> 00:38:17,330
S1: draw near to you.

723
00:38:17,930 --> 00:38:22,610
S5: She's a choreographer extraordinaire and everything is Greek to her.

724
00:38:22,890 --> 00:38:26,690
S5: Super di is in the crew. It's Carl and crew

725
00:38:26,690 --> 00:38:27,930
S5: on Moody Radio.

726
00:38:28,170 --> 00:38:30,930
S1: One of the things we love to do here is

727
00:38:30,930 --> 00:38:33,689
S1: to really stay in the know, especially how to pray

728
00:38:33,690 --> 00:38:36,450
S1: for people around the globe. Brothers and sisters in Christ.

729
00:38:36,489 --> 00:38:39,810
S1: What's developing in Iran? Even as I looked at news

730
00:38:39,850 --> 00:38:43,370
S1: aggregator feed this morning, it's heartbreaking and harrowing all at

731
00:38:43,370 --> 00:38:46,209
S1: the same time. Lana Silk with us right now. Before

732
00:38:46,210 --> 00:38:49,170
S1: we give you a full introduction here, Lana, it's heartbreaking

733
00:38:49,170 --> 00:38:52,030
S1: and harrowing all at the same time, isn't it, sister?

734
00:38:52,430 --> 00:38:55,629
S9: Absolutely, Carl. But I would add a third word, and

735
00:38:55,630 --> 00:38:59,189
S9: that is hope. Um, you know, the Iranian people and

736
00:38:59,190 --> 00:39:01,590
S9: the church in Iran have been praying for a very

737
00:39:01,590 --> 00:39:06,230
S9: long time for a change, and this is the closest

738
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:09,509
S9: we have ever got. So it's absolutely true that we're

739
00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:12,150
S9: going through some very, very difficult times right now in Iran.

740
00:39:12,150 --> 00:39:14,830
S9: But there is something in the background that says, could

741
00:39:14,830 --> 00:39:17,670
S9: this be the last push and push and is freedom coming?

742
00:39:18,030 --> 00:39:20,310
S3: Lana Silk, our guest right now, she is president and

743
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:25,589
S3: chief executive officer of Transform Iran. They focus on evangelism, discipleship,

744
00:39:25,590 --> 00:39:29,750
S3: church planning, providing humanitarian aid. Give us a little bit

745
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:33,030
S3: of a history of how we've gotten to this point

746
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:36,670
S3: in Iran, people living under an oppressive regime since the

747
00:39:36,670 --> 00:39:39,830
S3: late 70s. Give us a just a brief overview.

748
00:39:40,350 --> 00:39:43,589
S9: Yes. Exactly right. In the late 70s, the people revolted

749
00:39:43,590 --> 00:39:46,629
S9: to bring in this regime, much like the scenes we're

750
00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:49,550
S9: seeing today. They were playing out almost 50 years ago

751
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,720
S9: for the reverse action, bringing in this government and very

752
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,759
S9: rapidly and with increased force. This government has maintained control

753
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,799
S9: and really oppressed and controlled the people to behave in

754
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,360
S9: a way that would please Sharia law. And the people

755
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,160
S9: have had enough.

756
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,840
S1: Did the people know when they were deposing the Shah

757
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,160
S1: and championing this regime? I've done a little bit of

758
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,600
S1: study on this, and it sounds like they were making

759
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,440
S1: promises to the Carter administration that they were going to

760
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,920
S1: bring order and health and vitality to the culture. Did

761
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,080
S1: they know? Did they have a hint? Did anyone know

762
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,600
S1: where this was going to go? Lana?

763
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,200
S9: Well, I think the inner circle would have known the

764
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,240
S9: Khomeini didn't waste any time to make announcements after the revolution,

765
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,040
S9: to say that his intention was to wipe out Israel.

766
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,720
S9: And this was not a regime that was for the people.

767
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,279
S9: This was a regime that was for Islam. But I

768
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,480
S9: think that people just bought the lies and the rhetoric

769
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,419
S9: that Islam was going to restore peace and justice and

770
00:40:50,420 --> 00:40:53,060
S9: hope and all these wonderful things. And of course, we

771
00:40:53,060 --> 00:40:55,460
S9: know Islam can't do that, and that's not what they've had.

772
00:40:56,140 --> 00:40:58,540
S3: Lana. Tell us a little bit about your own personal story.

773
00:40:58,540 --> 00:41:01,740
S3: I know it ties to Iran's history in a unique way.

774
00:41:02,219 --> 00:41:04,060
S10: Yes. I was actually.

775
00:41:04,060 --> 00:41:07,739
S9: Born on the day that took the greatest fatalities and

776
00:41:07,739 --> 00:41:11,620
S9: casualties that fought to bring in this regime. Iranians call

777
00:41:11,620 --> 00:41:16,419
S9: it Black Friday. It's September 1978, and my mom tells

778
00:41:16,420 --> 00:41:19,140
S9: the story of us then driving to the hospital while

779
00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:22,779
S9: there's practically war going on around them. And so I've

780
00:41:22,820 --> 00:41:25,780
S9: grown up in this regime. This is the the side

781
00:41:25,780 --> 00:41:28,900
S9: of Iran that I've only that I've ever known.

782
00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:32,779
S1: What what is happening today? Lana, that's what we want

783
00:41:32,820 --> 00:41:34,899
S1: to we want to know what is happening. I got

784
00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:38,980
S1: up this morning early and it's horrific. It it we

785
00:41:39,020 --> 00:41:42,460
S1: had heard rumor that they were not going to execute

786
00:41:42,460 --> 00:41:45,779
S1: some of these protesters, but that's not happened apparently. And

787
00:41:45,780 --> 00:41:49,160
S1: there are a lot of fatalities. It looks like many,

788
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,640
S1: many thousands and we can't know for sure. Is that correct?

789
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,399
S9: That's right. We can't know for sure. But we can

790
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,480
S9: also go by how we know this government operates and

791
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,320
S9: what reality is versus what they communicate. So the government

792
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,760
S9: themselves have said there are around 5000 people have killed,

793
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,440
S9: have been killed so far. We know that's usually an

794
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,560
S9: X percentage of the reality. So we've put on our

795
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,840
S9: website that we're confident it will be more than 15,000 deaths.

796
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,640
S9: Some people are saying more than 30,000. I wouldn't be

797
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,640
S9: shocked if that was the truth. Um, it's a harrowing

798
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,640
S9: number in any case. Um, so yeah, we just the

799
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:34,360
S9: government is never going to stop this action. And remember, Carl,

800
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,600
S9: that the government knows there's no other future for them

801
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,160
S9: except leading Iran. So they are going to fight tooth

802
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,080
S9: and nail to hold on to power. And it's getting

803
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,540
S9: uglier and uglier because they are getting more and more desperate.

804
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:49,940
S3: Lana, silk transform Iran with us right now. Coming up.

805
00:42:50,140 --> 00:42:52,060
S3: Let's talk a little bit more about the mission of

806
00:42:52,060 --> 00:42:55,020
S3: transform Iran. And, Lana, I want to go back to

807
00:42:55,060 --> 00:42:57,860
S3: a word that you said early on in this interview.

808
00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:01,300
S3: Don't forget that there's also hope in all of this.

809
00:43:01,340 --> 00:43:02,900
S3: More coming up here on Carl and crew.

810
00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:07,140
S5: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

811
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:09,820
S3: If you've been following the news coming out of Iran

812
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:14,860
S3: at all, you see that there's unrest. There's been death.

813
00:43:14,860 --> 00:43:19,660
S3: There is a lot of despair, but there's hope. Lana

814
00:43:19,660 --> 00:43:23,540
S3: Silk joining us right now with Transform Iran Hope, give

815
00:43:23,580 --> 00:43:27,500
S3: us a picture of, from your perspective, why you see

816
00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:29,820
S3: hope in the midst of all that's happening right now.

817
00:43:30,260 --> 00:43:32,980
S9: Ali, we have been praying for such a long time

818
00:43:32,980 --> 00:43:40,260
S9: that God would shake the leadership, the the strongholds over

819
00:43:40,300 --> 00:43:44,640
S9: Iran and bring about a freedom for the people, a

820
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,560
S9: respite from the control they've been suffering under, and an

821
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,000
S9: opportunity for the gospel to spread even more quickly. And

822
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,320
S9: I can't help but think, could this be part of

823
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,400
S9: what God is doing? Of course, God and the church

824
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,000
S9: don't want the suffering that's happening. But I do wonder

825
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,520
S9: if the other side of what's happening today is a

826
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,600
S9: freedom for the beautiful people of Iran, and I think

827
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,200
S9: they themselves are feeling that way, which is why they're

828
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,160
S9: pushing so hard now at this point.

829
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,320
S1: Do you have any stories coming out of Iran where

830
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,240
S1: there is inroads with the gospel? And I'm hearing word

831
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,759
S1: that there are many who are taking a stand for

832
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,520
S1: Christ at the cost of their own life or incarceration.

833
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:26,840
S1: What what do you know?

834
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,319
S9: So many, so many. And really an inspiring inspiration to

835
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,640
S9: us in the way they get hold of this treasure

836
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,520
S9: that is the gospel and are prepared to pay a

837
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,379
S9: very high price for it. Very often Jesus himself will

838
00:44:41,380 --> 00:44:43,779
S9: appear to people in their dreams or their visions. And

839
00:44:43,780 --> 00:44:46,500
S9: we have a lot of people getting hold of us saying,

840
00:44:46,540 --> 00:44:49,339
S9: I've had an encounter with Jesus. At that point, they

841
00:44:49,340 --> 00:44:51,180
S9: don't even know that he's God. They just think he's

842
00:44:51,180 --> 00:44:53,460
S9: a good teacher. But they know how he made them feel.

843
00:44:53,460 --> 00:44:56,140
S9: They know he healed their cancer or their marriage or

844
00:44:56,140 --> 00:44:58,700
S9: freed them from addiction. And they'll call us into our

845
00:44:58,700 --> 00:45:01,540
S9: radio station or TV station and say, please help me

846
00:45:01,540 --> 00:45:04,500
S9: understand how to respond. I want to know who this

847
00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:06,980
S9: Jesus is. And we have the joy of telling them.

848
00:45:07,180 --> 00:45:10,180
S9: And and the miracles go on the way the Christians

849
00:45:10,660 --> 00:45:17,260
S9: experience God leading them supernaturally, keeping them safe despite incredible dangers.

850
00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:20,180
S9: It's a testimony to God's constant hand in their lives.

851
00:45:20,620 --> 00:45:23,339
S3: Lana Silk. Our guest right now just recently took the

852
00:45:23,340 --> 00:45:26,980
S3: baton as both the president and CEO of Transform Iran.

853
00:45:26,980 --> 00:45:29,020
S3: Give us a little bit more about the the mission

854
00:45:29,020 --> 00:45:30,739
S3: and the work of this great ministry.

855
00:45:31,180 --> 00:45:34,260
S9: So our mission is to see the day when every

856
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:36,900
S9: Iranian man, woman and child will have the opportunity to

857
00:45:36,940 --> 00:45:39,360
S9: hear the gospel in a way that they can understand

858
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,640
S9: it and can respond to it. And so we talk

859
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,400
S9: about the three pillars of our work. We talk about evangelism,

860
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,359
S9: discipleship and transformation, evangelism, making sure that we have done

861
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,520
S9: our absolute best to communicate the gospel to everyone and

862
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,160
S9: make sure it's accessible. You know, we have barriers of

863
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,319
S9: access itself, you know, because it's illegal in Iran, but

864
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,080
S9: also barriers of language, barriers of, um, you know, the

865
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,680
S9: kind of devices people are able to use. So we're

866
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,760
S9: having to work hard to make sure that the gospel

867
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,240
S9: is understandable and connect to people. And then we disciple

868
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,200
S9: the converts, and we make sure that they're leaders themselves

869
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,400
S9: who are helping change this nation for Christ.

870
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,440
S1: You know, we've been talking a lot on our show

871
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,040
S1: for probably years because we have a cultural challenge in

872
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,759
S1: American Christianity, and I use that with air quotes in

873
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,719
S1: that we've tried to actually lower the bar to let

874
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,799
S1: more people in. It's easy believism cultural Christianity. I mean,

875
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,930
S1: you've been here long enough. You see it. Yet. But

876
00:46:37,969 --> 00:46:43,850
S1: what is evangelism in Iran? If my hunch is that

877
00:46:43,850 --> 00:46:48,009
S1: you are preaching a gospel of repentance, abandonment, taking up

878
00:46:48,010 --> 00:46:52,410
S1: the cross and and is, am I correct in that

879
00:46:52,410 --> 00:46:56,209
S1: assumption that you're coming straight forward with the gospel? And

880
00:46:56,210 --> 00:46:59,130
S1: what does that result in, in the lives of these

881
00:46:59,130 --> 00:47:00,770
S1: men and women and boys and girls?

882
00:47:01,010 --> 00:47:04,969
S9: Exactly those things, Carl. I mean, you literally said it yourself.

883
00:47:04,969 --> 00:47:07,730
S9: There is repentance. There is taking up your cross. I mean,

884
00:47:07,770 --> 00:47:10,089
S9: didn't Jesus say this himself? I think sometimes we have

885
00:47:10,090 --> 00:47:12,969
S9: to remind ourselves that Jesus did not promise us a

886
00:47:12,969 --> 00:47:14,649
S9: bed of roses when we come to follow him. He

887
00:47:14,650 --> 00:47:16,529
S9: told us, it's going to cost us. It's going to

888
00:47:16,570 --> 00:47:20,050
S9: cost us our relationships. It's going to cost us our reputation.

889
00:47:20,090 --> 00:47:23,609
S9: It's going to cost us our comforts. Um, and, you know,

890
00:47:23,650 --> 00:47:26,850
S9: the crazy thing is that the Iranian people, the Muslim

891
00:47:26,890 --> 00:47:30,010
S9: Iranian people know this. And when they come to start

892
00:47:30,010 --> 00:47:33,210
S9: looking for Jesus, and certainly when they come to consider

893
00:47:33,210 --> 00:47:37,550
S9: following him, they already have counted this cost. We sometimes

894
00:47:37,590 --> 00:47:40,190
S9: half jokingly say the ayatollahs of Iran were some of

895
00:47:40,190 --> 00:47:43,069
S9: the greatest evangelists we ever had, because they make it

896
00:47:43,070 --> 00:47:45,390
S9: really clear to people what Islam is and what it's

897
00:47:45,390 --> 00:47:47,950
S9: going to cost them to follow Jesus. But when you've

898
00:47:47,989 --> 00:47:51,109
S9: tasted the love of Jesus, then all of it is

899
00:47:51,110 --> 00:47:53,150
S9: worth it. And the Iranian people are choosing to follow

900
00:47:53,150 --> 00:47:55,430
S9: him with their eyes wide open, ready to lay it

901
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:56,470
S9: all down for him.

902
00:47:56,790 --> 00:48:00,069
S3: How should Christians be praying for the nation of Iran?

903
00:48:00,190 --> 00:48:04,270
S9: Pray for the Christians. First of all, pray for them

904
00:48:04,270 --> 00:48:07,350
S9: to be strengthened in their faith. Many are very isolated

905
00:48:07,350 --> 00:48:09,550
S9: now because of the internet shut down, and they're having

906
00:48:09,550 --> 00:48:13,029
S9: to really rely on their 1 to 1 relationship with

907
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:15,790
S9: Jesus to get them through these tough times. Pray for

908
00:48:15,790 --> 00:48:18,310
S9: courage as they share their faith. Pray for the lost

909
00:48:18,350 --> 00:48:20,310
S9: to come to know Jesus and to find what they're

910
00:48:20,310 --> 00:48:23,310
S9: looking for in Jesus. Because even though they're fighting so

911
00:48:23,310 --> 00:48:26,350
S9: hard for this earthly freedom, what they really want is Jesus.

912
00:48:26,350 --> 00:48:29,109
S9: And that's who they need. And then pray for repentance.

913
00:48:29,110 --> 00:48:32,230
S9: And the leaders pray for a righteous transition of leadership.

914
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:34,689
S9: There's so many things that could go wrong now. As

915
00:48:34,690 --> 00:48:37,290
S9: we walk the months ahead, pray that God's hand will

916
00:48:37,290 --> 00:48:39,170
S9: be on Iran and there will be mercy as we

917
00:48:39,170 --> 00:48:40,370
S9: see this season change.

918
00:48:40,969 --> 00:48:42,730
S1: I'm going to pray in just a moment. We're not

919
00:48:42,730 --> 00:48:44,290
S1: going to talk about it. We're going to do it.

920
00:48:44,290 --> 00:48:48,730
S1: But I got a quick question. There's rumors that the

921
00:48:48,730 --> 00:48:51,930
S1: Ayatollah and some of his leadership have already got an

922
00:48:51,930 --> 00:48:55,930
S1: escape plan to Russia. It's almost like they're they're conceding

923
00:48:55,969 --> 00:48:59,330
S1: an imminent defeat. Have you heard those rumors? And is

924
00:48:59,330 --> 00:49:01,489
S1: there anything to it? Is it looking like a tide

925
00:49:01,489 --> 00:49:03,290
S1: is changing in this revolution?

926
00:49:03,570 --> 00:49:06,210
S11: Yes, I would say the tide is changing.

927
00:49:06,570 --> 00:49:10,169
S9: And they are. Some of these rumors are substantiated. One

928
00:49:10,170 --> 00:49:12,969
S9: of the daughters of one of the senior leaders of

929
00:49:12,969 --> 00:49:16,610
S9: Iran actually called in to a secular Iranian TV station

930
00:49:16,610 --> 00:49:20,050
S9: outside the country, and she was crying live on air,

931
00:49:20,090 --> 00:49:22,170
S9: saying how much she hates her father, how much her

932
00:49:22,170 --> 00:49:26,210
S9: mother hates her father, how she is watching as he is.

933
00:49:26,250 --> 00:49:28,770
S9: She she's seen the passports that he's prepared for the

934
00:49:28,770 --> 00:49:32,009
S9: whole family with different identities. She's seen the cases are

935
00:49:32,070 --> 00:49:35,109
S9: all packed. She's seen cases full of US dollars, and

936
00:49:35,110 --> 00:49:37,310
S9: all the while, he's shouting orders for the Iranian people

937
00:49:37,310 --> 00:49:41,190
S9: to be killed. So there's absolutely truth to that. And

938
00:49:41,230 --> 00:49:44,030
S9: it's not surprising there is no future for the leadership

939
00:49:44,030 --> 00:49:47,350
S9: of Iran outside of leading and controlling the people of Iran.

940
00:49:47,350 --> 00:49:49,750
S9: And they know that things are different now and they

941
00:49:49,790 --> 00:49:50,670
S9: need a plan B.

942
00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:54,310
S1: This is mirrors what Hitler did in his last three

943
00:49:54,310 --> 00:49:57,670
S1: weeks of life when when he took out Bonhoeffer and

944
00:49:57,710 --> 00:50:00,750
S1: good people, even though he knew he was cooked. It's

945
00:50:00,750 --> 00:50:04,350
S1: just it's amazing how history repeats itself. A quick comment

946
00:50:04,350 --> 00:50:04,950
S1: on that.

947
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:07,589
S11: Yes, it is amazing and amazing how us as.

948
00:50:07,590 --> 00:50:09,710
S9: People don't tend to learn from history.

949
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:13,149
S1: Yeah, well, let me let me pray. Let's just bow

950
00:50:13,150 --> 00:50:15,630
S1: our heads and hearts wherever you are. Boom! Crew across

951
00:50:15,630 --> 00:50:19,910
S1: the world right now. Lord, we have heard Lorna's report,

952
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:22,550
S1: and we've heard her request. And so we do pray

953
00:50:22,550 --> 00:50:28,030
S1: for the strengthening fortitude of our brothers and sisters right now, Lord.

954
00:50:30,290 --> 00:50:37,569
S1: Give him strength. Give him a peace that passes all understanding. Lord.

955
00:50:37,610 --> 00:50:46,450
S1: Strengthen them. Give them, uh, supernatural, miraculous, uh uh, miracles.

956
00:50:46,450 --> 00:50:52,290
S1: I pray that you would blind, uh, forces of evil,

957
00:50:52,810 --> 00:50:56,810
S1: physical forces of evil, even blind them to the presence

958
00:50:57,210 --> 00:51:00,850
S1: of our brothers and sisters. Make them not even see

959
00:51:00,890 --> 00:51:06,529
S1: what is happening there, miraculously. We'd ask that the manifest

960
00:51:06,530 --> 00:51:09,210
S1: presence of your spirit would be so profound in our

961
00:51:09,210 --> 00:51:13,770
S1: brothers and sisters that they would, uh, rise up in strength,

962
00:51:13,770 --> 00:51:15,890
S1: that they would find you to be the strong tower

963
00:51:15,890 --> 00:51:19,410
S1: or the righteous run in, and that you would be

964
00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:21,850
S1: their peace right now. Right now, as we pray, your

965
00:51:21,850 --> 00:51:24,010
S1: spirit goes to work, and we praise you for that.

966
00:51:24,570 --> 00:51:28,610
S1: We pray, too, for a revival in Iran that many

967
00:51:29,550 --> 00:51:32,030
S1: who are far from you. And as Lorna says, looking

968
00:51:32,030 --> 00:51:36,589
S1: for freedom but looking for something ultimately more than more

969
00:51:36,590 --> 00:51:39,950
S1: than governmental freedom. They're looking for a freedom. I pray

970
00:51:39,950 --> 00:51:45,070
S1: that there would be revival in Iran. Thank you, father,

971
00:51:45,070 --> 00:51:47,750
S1: that you are sovereign over all things and you ask

972
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:50,710
S1: us to pray. So we pray and I thank you

973
00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:52,670
S1: in Jesus name. Amen.

974
00:51:53,110 --> 00:51:53,630
S3: Amen.

975
00:51:54,070 --> 00:51:55,150
S12: Amen. Amen.

976
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:57,029
S3: We've got a key word for you. If you want

977
00:51:57,030 --> 00:52:00,950
S3: more on this ministry, including a prayer guide on their website,

978
00:52:00,950 --> 00:52:03,350
S3: so that you can be in prayer for Iran, just

979
00:52:03,350 --> 00:52:13,350
S3: text transform to 800 555 7898. Text transform to (800) 555-7898.

980
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:17,310
S1: Oh my goodness. Boom crew. Pray for Iran. Pray for

981
00:52:17,310 --> 00:52:20,030
S1: our brothers and sisters and those who will be.

982
00:52:20,750 --> 00:52:23,750
S5: He was sharing the gospel on the radio and then

983
00:52:23,790 --> 00:52:28,170
S5: he got saved. Young thunders in the crew. It's Carl

984
00:52:28,170 --> 00:52:29,850
S5: and crew on Moody Radio.

985
00:52:30,010 --> 00:52:32,210
S13: It's Carl and crew. Got a question for you on

986
00:52:32,210 --> 00:52:36,089
S13: this Freedom Friday. What strongholds has God pulled down in

987
00:52:36,090 --> 00:52:43,330
S13: your life? 855 five 7898. Caitlyn first time caller. Chattanooga, Tennessee.

988
00:52:43,370 --> 00:52:44,450
S13: What do you say? Caitlyn?

989
00:52:45,650 --> 00:52:50,129
S14: Hey, um, the Lord really helped me to, uh, free

990
00:52:50,170 --> 00:52:53,890
S14: me from anxiety and depression. I had someone, um, at

991
00:52:53,890 --> 00:52:56,290
S14: my last church look at me one day. He kept

992
00:52:56,290 --> 00:52:59,129
S14: hearing me come in every week. Um, just talking about

993
00:52:59,410 --> 00:53:03,490
S14: the wrestles I was having. And he said in James five,

994
00:53:03,530 --> 00:53:06,610
S14: it tells us that if we resist the devil, he

995
00:53:06,610 --> 00:53:09,969
S14: will flee. Submit ourselves to God and resist the devil,

996
00:53:09,969 --> 00:53:12,689
S14: and he will flee. And I came home and was

997
00:53:12,690 --> 00:53:15,049
S14: with a friend the next week, and I was just

998
00:53:15,050 --> 00:53:17,850
S14: battling with anxiety and depression, and I felt the Lord say,

999
00:53:17,850 --> 00:53:21,010
S14: give it to me, release it to me. And I

1000
00:53:21,050 --> 00:53:23,250
S14: sat on my living room floor and I was like, Lord,

1001
00:53:23,250 --> 00:53:26,780
S14: I'm so tired of years of this and I just said,

1002
00:53:26,820 --> 00:53:30,299
S14: I renounce this, I renounce anxiety, I renounce depression, I

1003
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:32,299
S14: know that you want to heal me. And that's what

1004
00:53:32,340 --> 00:53:35,060
S14: broke it off of me like that. He actually wants

1005
00:53:35,060 --> 00:53:37,100
S14: to heal it from like he wants to take it

1006
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:40,779
S14: from us. He desires to take it from us so

1007
00:53:40,780 --> 00:53:43,540
S14: that we can set others free with our testimony as well.

1008
00:53:43,780 --> 00:53:46,460
S1: Amen. Caitlin. Yeah, we are not. We are not bound

1009
00:53:46,460 --> 00:53:48,220
S1: to that. I mean, are we going to have moments

1010
00:53:48,219 --> 00:53:51,260
S1: of fear? Absolutely. Uh, are we going to have moments

1011
00:53:51,260 --> 00:53:56,700
S1: when we get discouraged? Absolutely. Asaph. David, we all we

1012
00:53:56,700 --> 00:53:59,380
S1: have to do is go look at the Psalms. And

1013
00:53:59,380 --> 00:54:01,820
S1: my my bride was talking to me about this yesterday.

1014
00:54:01,820 --> 00:54:05,300
S1: She said, ace of man, this guy could catastrophize anything.

1015
00:54:05,340 --> 00:54:09,660
S1: I mean, he could he could just catastrophize stuff. But

1016
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:14,180
S1: but God and this the, the beautiful thing is that

1017
00:54:14,180 --> 00:54:18,060
S1: Caitlin sharing here. Thank you sister boom is that this

1018
00:54:18,100 --> 00:54:23,880
S1: ongoing drudgery of anxiety and depression that that is not

1019
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,000
S1: God's will or calling for your life. It is not.

1020
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,040
S1: Are we going to dip into some folks from time

1021
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,120
S1: to time? Yeah. You know what comes out of that?

1022
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,399
S1: Great lessons learned about God's presence and power. That's what.

1023
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,200
S1: That's what we get. So way to go, sister. What

1024
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,280
S1: a beautiful thing. Got a question for you. Boom! Let's

1025
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,800
S1: light them up on the homestretch here.

1026
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:47,080
S3: What strongholds has God pulled down in your life? 800

1027
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,640
S3: 555 7898 phone lines open for you on this freedom Friday.

1028
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,520
S3: 800 555 7898.

1029
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,360
S5: Standing on the rock. Each and every day. You're listening

1030
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:00,560
S5: to Carl and crew.

1031
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,680
S1: That metaphor is right on. Standing on the rock means

1032
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,960
S1: the hearing and the application of God's Word. And when

1033
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,400
S1: we really let it soak into us, we can renounce

1034
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,560
S1: strongholds and God can pull them down in our lives.

1035
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,160
S1: Got a question for you. And we're just looking forward

1036
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,239
S1: to great response here.

1037
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,319
S3: We're asking you what strongholds has God pulled down in

1038
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:26,580
S3: your life. 805, 55, 78. 98. We've got Gilbert, first

1039
00:55:26,580 --> 00:55:29,540
S3: time caller from Wesley Chapel, Florida. What are those strongholds

1040
00:55:29,580 --> 00:55:30,820
S3: God's pulled down for you?

1041
00:55:32,300 --> 00:55:35,939
S15: Yes. Um, basically, it's a relationship with my father, a

1042
00:55:35,940 --> 00:55:38,620
S15: great man, a great man of integrity. When they went

1043
00:55:38,620 --> 00:55:41,500
S15: through a divorce, he raised us four children. But he

1044
00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:44,060
S15: was never a man of expressive heart. He never said,

1045
00:55:44,060 --> 00:55:46,219
S15: I love you. And that was kind of hard in

1046
00:55:46,219 --> 00:55:49,060
S15: our family. My brother, you know, held it strong. My

1047
00:55:49,060 --> 00:55:52,500
S15: sisters too, until one day the Holy Spirit, just impressed

1048
00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:54,820
S15: in my heart, says, hey, listen, who's ministered to him?

1049
00:55:55,460 --> 00:55:57,460
S15: Have you talked to him? Have you asked him about

1050
00:55:57,460 --> 00:55:59,580
S15: his life? And all of a sudden I said, wow.

1051
00:55:59,620 --> 00:56:02,060
S15: He says, you know, honor him, represent me to him.

1052
00:56:02,340 --> 00:56:04,620
S15: And then I asked him, I said, dad, you know,

1053
00:56:04,660 --> 00:56:06,420
S15: tell me about your life and tell me about when

1054
00:56:06,420 --> 00:56:08,540
S15: you was a child. He had to leave a school

1055
00:56:08,540 --> 00:56:10,620
S15: at third grade to provide for his family. When he

1056
00:56:10,620 --> 00:56:13,739
S15: told me what he went through and how people would

1057
00:56:13,739 --> 00:56:16,859
S15: yell at him in the fields and, and and all

1058
00:56:16,860 --> 00:56:19,700
S15: the stuff he went through. My heart broke and I said,

1059
00:56:19,700 --> 00:56:22,160
S15: here I am expecting him to do something that he's

1060
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,160
S15: never been told. The Holy Spirit says to administer to him.

1061
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,160
S15: Tell him you love him. And that was the hardest

1062
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,200
S15: thing for me to say to my dad, I love

1063
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,080
S15: you because he never showed it. And guess what? When

1064
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,399
S15: I broke out and started doing it one day, he said,

1065
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,439
S15: I love you too, son. He did that. There was

1066
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,960
S15: a break and I called my brothers. I called my family.

1067
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,960
S15: I said, you guys got to call dad. You got

1068
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,960
S15: to tell him you love him. Look what happened. And

1069
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,840
S15: I'm telling you, it broke. And our family just started

1070
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,000
S15: loving each other, hugging each other. And every time we

1071
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,040
S15: saw that, giving him a kiss. Stuff that we've never done.

1072
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,120
S15: But the Holy Spirit guidance taught us how to break

1073
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,200
S15: those strongholds.

1074
00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:58,920
S7: Wow. You know what.

1075
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,680
S1: Satan wanted to do? He wanted to keep that wall

1076
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,600
S1: up between you and your dad. And you listen to

1077
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,000
S1: the spirit and the spirit. All the spirit said to

1078
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:11,520
S1: Gilbert was, hey, have you asked him his story? And

1079
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,040
S1: what an honorable thing to do. Gilbert, I'm telling you

1080
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:19,580
S1: what I wish I could sit you down with a

1081
00:57:19,580 --> 00:57:24,140
S1: bunch of boys who need to hear this, because that's

1082
00:57:24,740 --> 00:57:28,140
S1: communication is a two way street. And you nailed it, bro. Boom! Brother,

1083
00:57:28,140 --> 00:57:31,420
S1: thank you for calling in today. That was powerhouse. What

1084
00:57:31,460 --> 00:57:31,980
S1: a story.

1085
00:57:32,300 --> 00:57:34,700
S3: Beautiful. Let's go back to the phones. Janay calling in

1086
00:57:34,700 --> 00:57:37,780
S3: from Cleveland, Ohio. What strongholds has God pulled down in

1087
00:57:37,780 --> 00:57:38,540
S3: your life, Janay?

1088
00:57:39,620 --> 00:57:44,580
S16: Oh my gosh, he a food addiction. Oh, he cleaned

1089
00:57:44,580 --> 00:57:47,220
S16: it all up. I mean, I went through a 12

1090
00:57:47,260 --> 00:57:53,100
S16: step program and I weighed £315 at one time. And

1091
00:57:53,460 --> 00:57:57,420
S16: I ate for everything I everything. I had no feelings, nothing.

1092
00:57:57,420 --> 00:57:59,980
S16: But in the 12 step program really helped me out

1093
00:58:00,340 --> 00:58:03,500
S16: and showed me what I was doing. And and God

1094
00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:05,780
S16: pulled it all out of me and he helped me.

1095
00:58:05,780 --> 00:58:08,020
S16: He gave me like a present. And then he helped

1096
00:58:08,020 --> 00:58:11,860
S16: me through the whole thing. And I weigh 122 now.

1097
00:58:11,900 --> 00:58:15,980
S16: It's been nine years and I have all, um, I

1098
00:58:16,020 --> 00:58:19,800
S16: have all the, you know, um, the food menu and

1099
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,160
S16: everything that I sell. And God helps me the whole time.

1100
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,240
S16: And when I, when I used to get a lust

1101
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,040
S16: for food, God would, um, I would say, God help me.

1102
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,120
S16: Help me get rid of that. Like, you see a

1103
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,360
S16: pizza or something. And I used to have to make

1104
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,520
S16: it come true. And, um, I mean, I would be almost, like, drooling.

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S16: And he took it right out of my mind. And,

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S16: I mean, that's a miracle. That's a miracle. And I

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S16: just wanted to share that.

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S1: Oh, you shared it. Indeed. Jenny, this is a cool

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S1: story because a lot of people have underestimated the grace

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S1: of God, his unmerited favor, an unparalleled power to help

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S1: you like he did my assistant Lori, who we've had

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S1: on here. She's cried out to God because, God, my

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S1: full switch is broken and she found healing and health there.

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S1: It's a beautiful story, Jenny. Thank you for calling in today.

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S3: 800 555 7898. If you want to share your story.

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S3: Got time for maybe 1 or 2 more? What strongholds

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S3: has God pulled down in your life? 800 555 7898.

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S5: Start your day moving closer to Jesus. You're listening to

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S5: Carl and crew.

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S1: Yeah, man. Freedom Friday. Got a question for you. Pretty straightforward,

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S1: isn't it?

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S3: What strongholds has God pulled down in your life? 800

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00:59:42,380 --> 00:59:47,900
S3: 555 7898 Floyd calling in this morning from Chicago. What

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S3: strongholds did God pull down for you?

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S17: Good morning. Boom crew. So I'm someone who grew up

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S17: going to church, right? I grew up in the evangelical life. Right. Like.

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S17: And I just came away from the Lord. I love

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S17: the Lord. I was living out a life of sin. Right?

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S17: Trying to find myself. And the Lord saved me from

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S17: a life of addiction, of brokenness, of of depression, anxiety

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S17: and the breakthrough moment guys happened last late last year

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S17: where I, I realized through prayer through through just being

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S17: tired of being sick and tired that what was going

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S17: on in my life was I had a a hardened heart.

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S17: I needed to forgive my biological father, who had left

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S17: my life at a young age. The minute I did that, guys,

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S17: the floodgates of heaven just opened and and and God

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S17: has been working in my life in miraculous ways. I'm

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S17: not tooting my own horn. I'm just giving all the

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S17: praise and all the and all the glory to God.

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S17: He has done great things in my life through forgiveness.

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S17: Like it says in Matthew's, if we don't forgive others,

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S17: how do we expect God to forgive us and man?

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S17: And the Bible has just been coming alive in these

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S17: last few months with everything that I have been reading, my, my,

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S17: my relationship with God has grown and it is all

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S17: through obedience. Obedience. I've gotten married, man. God has just

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S17: been working in my life in amazing ways.

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S1: Floyd, let me tell you something, bro. Here's there's people

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S1: listening right now that go, wow, this guy's got, you know,

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S1: he's he's in that niche of Christianity. And sometimes we think,

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S1: oh yeah, you know, it's gonna it's it might wane

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S1: a little bit over time, but he's fired up and

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S1: he'll come back to the earth. Are you kidding me?

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S1: I'm with Floyd. This thing, this freedom, this breaking of strongholds,

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S1: this this is normative biblical Christianity. This is not some

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S1: one off. What Floyd has what we've been hearing from

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S1: Iranian saints that are in harm's way as we speak.

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S1: This is the life of the New Testament believer and

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S1: the believer today. Ali.

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S3: Beautiful. And so thank you so much, Floyd, for calling

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S3: in this morning from Chicago. What about you? What stronghold

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S3: has God pulled down in your life? 800 555 98. Ruby,

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S3: first time caller from Ohio. Tell us what stronghold has

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S3: got pulled down in your life.

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S18: Um, yes. I was on a three day fast, and

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S18: in a three day fast, I spent nothing but time

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S18: with God. I went silent, I listened to his word.

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S18: I read the Bible. I actually read the full Testament

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S18: in full, the New Testament in three days. And I

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S18: had never read the New Testament before. Within that time,

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S18: before I started, there was fear, there was anger, there

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S18: was so much emotion. I used to swear, um, I

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S18: used to debate a lot on my life, on what

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S18: I needed to do and how to move forward. And

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S18: in those three days, all that was removed from my life.

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S18: I didn't have a desire to do any of those things,

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S18: because all I had was the love of God and

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S18: being filled with the love of God. I just wanted

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S18: to kind of keep that going. So everything has just

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S18: been spiritual moving forward. Everything is just God. Everything is

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S18: filled with God. I don't see anything but God and

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S18: everything that I do now.

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S1: Ruby. Boom, sister. Boom! And here it is. It's the

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S1: presence of God. It's. It's getting up in the lap

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S1: of God and saying, here's my life. Wow. What are

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S1: you thinking?

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S3: You know, I love hearing this. And the fact that

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S3: she had never read the New Testament before is incredible.

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S3: And that God used his word time alone kind of

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S3: being set apart for a couple of days. I mean,

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S3: there are some key ingredients that are pretty much foolproof.

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S1: Yeah. It's amazing. Taking your calls 800 555 7898. What's

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S1: that stronghold that God has broken down in your life? You.

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S1: You didn't even imagine that this thing could be broken.

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S1: But by his grace and power, it has been. 800

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S1: 555 7898. Give us a call right now. To God

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S1: be the glory. He's doing great things.