1 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,320 S1: Hey, I'm Ali Hassan in for Chris Fabry again today 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,080 S1: at the radio backyard fence. We're taking your calls. I'm 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,439 S1: really excited about this one times when the words from 4 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,479 S1: the Bible jumped off the page for you. Have you 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,080 S1: had that happen? Talking about what that verse was and 6 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,960 S1: what was going on in your life that made it 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,680 S1: so meaningful? We're also going to talk about what to 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,920 S1: do if your Bible reading has gotten a little dry lately. 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,600 S1: You feel like you're stuck in a rut. Doctor Jim 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,400 S1: Coakley is going to join us with 14 fresh ways 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,959 S1: to enjoy the Bible. That's all coming up today on 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,800 S1: Chris Fabry. Live from the heart to the heart for 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,159 S1: the heart. By the end of the week, I'm going 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,960 S1: to have all the Chris Fabry isms just rolling off. 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,680 S1: He is out this week, but what a privilege to 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,360 S1: be sitting in his seat. Before we get to our 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,640 S1: guest and to your calls, let's introduce the team. Got 18 00:00:59,690 --> 00:01:03,170 S1: Ryan Engineering for us today. Lisa is sitting in the 19 00:01:03,170 --> 00:01:06,890 S1: producer's seat. Trish is off today. Josh and Simon, I'm 20 00:01:06,890 --> 00:01:08,890 S1: told is going to are going to be answering your 21 00:01:08,890 --> 00:01:11,490 S1: calls today. So let me give you this question because 22 00:01:11,490 --> 00:01:13,930 S1: I want you to think about this. You've had this happen. 23 00:01:14,290 --> 00:01:18,050 S1: You're reading the Bible. Whether you have the physical Bible 24 00:01:18,050 --> 00:01:22,170 S1: open before you. Maybe you are reading on a screen 25 00:01:22,170 --> 00:01:26,250 S1: scrolling and there are words. They've always been there, but 26 00:01:26,290 --> 00:01:28,930 S1: it's as if they were written that day just for you, 27 00:01:29,130 --> 00:01:32,450 S1: because God met you with truth from His Word right 28 00:01:32,450 --> 00:01:35,050 S1: when you needed it. Let's get your calls in. What 29 00:01:35,050 --> 00:01:37,369 S1: was that verse that jumped off the page and what 30 00:01:37,370 --> 00:01:40,530 S1: was going on in life that made those words the 31 00:01:40,530 --> 00:01:47,650 S1: one that the Lord knew you needed to see today? Eight. 775483675. 32 00:01:47,690 --> 00:01:54,050 S1: Our number today (877) 548-3675. You know I want to take 33 00:01:54,050 --> 00:01:59,780 S1: you back to 2012. Refresh your memory. Refresh my own 34 00:01:59,780 --> 00:02:02,860 S1: memory on this one. You know, I was going through 35 00:02:02,900 --> 00:02:06,900 S1: a tough season of life kind of through other people. 36 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:09,019 S1: It was one of those seasons where there was just 37 00:02:09,020 --> 00:02:11,940 S1: a lot of a lot of sadness around me. There 38 00:02:11,940 --> 00:02:16,660 S1: were a couple of friends who experienced really sudden, tragic losses, 39 00:02:16,660 --> 00:02:18,500 S1: kind of back to back. You ever have one of 40 00:02:18,500 --> 00:02:20,820 S1: those seasons where it feels like there's just kind of 41 00:02:20,860 --> 00:02:25,020 S1: loss all around you, and the world starts to seem 42 00:02:25,220 --> 00:02:28,700 S1: heavy and and more broken than ever when that gets 43 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:31,780 S1: closer to you. And as a Christian, I knew that 44 00:02:31,780 --> 00:02:36,460 S1: I was supposed to have peace and comfort and strength. 45 00:02:36,860 --> 00:02:39,460 S1: I was supposed to be feeling those things, but I 46 00:02:39,460 --> 00:02:44,220 S1: was confronted with the reality that I wasn't really experiencing 47 00:02:44,540 --> 00:02:48,180 S1: that peace that the Lord promises by the power of 48 00:02:48,180 --> 00:02:54,260 S1: His Spirit, we can have love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. 49 00:02:54,620 --> 00:02:58,030 S1: But I was a little bit dry spiritually, I felt 50 00:02:58,030 --> 00:03:01,230 S1: a little empty and I had to kind of confront 51 00:03:01,230 --> 00:03:05,310 S1: that honestly before the Lord. Like God, I believe in 52 00:03:05,350 --> 00:03:08,590 S1: you and I'm trying to do the right things, but man, 53 00:03:08,590 --> 00:03:12,149 S1: I feel really far from you. And so I started 54 00:03:12,510 --> 00:03:15,790 S1: kind of a season of just praying and asking questions 55 00:03:15,790 --> 00:03:20,230 S1: of God and just some soul searching, some honest reflection. 56 00:03:20,230 --> 00:03:24,669 S1: And one night, while quietly reading my Bible, it was 57 00:03:24,669 --> 00:03:27,430 S1: as if the words jumped off the page. That's the 58 00:03:27,430 --> 00:03:30,150 S1: best way I can describe it for you, that my 59 00:03:30,150 --> 00:03:34,310 S1: eyes just landed on a passage of Scripture in the 60 00:03:34,310 --> 00:03:37,990 S1: book of Daniel. It was Daniel ten, verse 12, and 61 00:03:37,990 --> 00:03:41,190 S1: it says, then he said to me, fear not, Daniel, 62 00:03:41,190 --> 00:03:43,510 S1: for from the first day that you set your heart 63 00:03:43,510 --> 00:03:47,710 S1: to understand and humbled yourself before your God, your words 64 00:03:47,710 --> 00:03:52,190 S1: have been heard, and I have come because of your words. Now, 65 00:03:52,230 --> 00:03:55,590 S1: I can't tell you the context of what was happening 66 00:03:55,730 --> 00:03:59,810 S1: in that passage. I need Doctor Rydell, or maybe Doctor 67 00:03:59,810 --> 00:04:02,890 S1: Coakley or one of the other great professors here to 68 00:04:02,930 --> 00:04:06,450 S1: execute that passage. But all I know is, in that moment, 69 00:04:06,450 --> 00:04:09,690 S1: it was as if God was speaking directly to me. 70 00:04:09,930 --> 00:04:14,050 S1: Fear not, Ali, for from the first day that you 71 00:04:14,090 --> 00:04:17,930 S1: set your heart to understand and humbled yourself before your God, 72 00:04:17,930 --> 00:04:23,330 S1: your words have been heard. And my heart, because it 73 00:04:23,330 --> 00:04:27,170 S1: was just what I needed to hear. Was it written 74 00:04:27,170 --> 00:04:30,330 S1: just for me? Kind of felt like it that day. 75 00:04:30,810 --> 00:04:33,849 S1: Have you had that experience before where you're you're in 76 00:04:33,850 --> 00:04:36,650 S1: the Word of God. Maybe you're doing your daily devotions. 77 00:04:37,130 --> 00:04:41,210 S1: It's a passage you've read many times before, but on 78 00:04:41,250 --> 00:04:44,570 S1: that day, there was something different. Your eyes landed there. 79 00:04:44,570 --> 00:04:47,610 S1: They jumped off the page. It was the truth your 80 00:04:47,610 --> 00:04:50,890 S1: heart needed. What was that verse for you? I would 81 00:04:50,890 --> 00:04:56,140 S1: love to hear from you today. Eight. Seven. Seven. Five. Four. 5483675. 82 00:04:56,180 --> 00:05:02,940 S1: Our phone number today (877) 548-3675. Doctor Jim Coakley is going 83 00:05:02,980 --> 00:05:05,140 S1: to spend the hour with us today. He's a professor 84 00:05:05,140 --> 00:05:08,179 S1: of Bible here at Moody Bible Institute in the Bible 85 00:05:08,180 --> 00:05:11,900 S1: and Theology department. He's the author of our featured resource. 86 00:05:11,900 --> 00:05:17,060 S1: It's called 14 Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible. Doctor Coakley, 87 00:05:17,100 --> 00:05:20,420 S1: tell me, have you had this experience like I described, 88 00:05:20,420 --> 00:05:24,100 S1: where something just jumped off the page for you and 89 00:05:24,100 --> 00:05:26,339 S1: it was as if it was written that day just 90 00:05:26,339 --> 00:05:26,860 S1: for you? 91 00:05:27,620 --> 00:05:30,540 S2: Oh, I have those moments all the time, especially, you know, 92 00:05:30,580 --> 00:05:32,860 S2: now that I'm looking for certain things as I'm reading 93 00:05:32,860 --> 00:05:36,380 S2: the Bible, uh, I just smile constantly when I see 94 00:05:36,420 --> 00:05:39,420 S2: another technique or another thing that I have talked about 95 00:05:39,420 --> 00:05:42,460 S2: in a book and I think, wow, it's something I 96 00:05:42,500 --> 00:05:45,300 S2: wrote about it, but I shouldn't be surprised. But I 97 00:05:45,300 --> 00:05:48,820 S2: still get surprised by the number of times in which 98 00:05:48,820 --> 00:05:51,339 S2: things I see in the Bible that are kind of 99 00:05:51,380 --> 00:05:54,870 S2: like things I have found that have really encouraged my 100 00:05:54,870 --> 00:05:58,150 S2: heart to do the same thing. And so, you know, 101 00:05:58,190 --> 00:06:01,429 S2: just thinking about Galatians chapter five recently, you just read 102 00:06:01,430 --> 00:06:04,430 S2: the fruit of the spirit passage and how that's part 103 00:06:04,430 --> 00:06:08,070 S2: of a structuring device. And it's not something that we 104 00:06:08,110 --> 00:06:11,230 S2: develop by ourselves. It's of course, developed by the Spirit 105 00:06:11,230 --> 00:06:15,630 S2: of God, but it's always done in community. Those love, joy, peace. 106 00:06:16,029 --> 00:06:19,190 S2: It begins with a bracket around, you know, don't devour 107 00:06:19,190 --> 00:06:22,349 S2: one another, don't bite one another. And so the best 108 00:06:22,350 --> 00:06:24,510 S2: way that we see the fruit of the spirit develop 109 00:06:24,510 --> 00:06:27,830 S2: is when we're in community with others. And so all 110 00:06:27,830 --> 00:06:30,030 S2: of a sudden then it realizes, oh, I need to 111 00:06:30,029 --> 00:06:33,109 S2: be part of a, you know, fellowship of people where 112 00:06:33,230 --> 00:06:36,150 S2: these fruit can be developed and be seen by others 113 00:06:36,430 --> 00:06:38,630 S2: because the Spirit of God is developing them in my 114 00:06:38,630 --> 00:06:39,230 S2: own heart. 115 00:06:39,470 --> 00:06:42,589 S1: Doctor Jim Coakley with us today. You know, I love 116 00:06:42,589 --> 00:06:45,270 S1: to help our listeners get to know a little bit 117 00:06:45,270 --> 00:06:48,350 S1: more about the voice that they're hearing. Obviously, you have 118 00:06:48,350 --> 00:06:50,950 S1: been featured many times here on Moody Radio on a 119 00:06:50,990 --> 00:06:53,560 S1: lot of the different shows, but I've gotten the privilege 120 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,320 S1: to hear your story, your testimony, a couple of times. 121 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,599 S1: So I would love for you to take us back 122 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,880 S1: to high school gym. Did you go by Jim or James? 123 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:02,320 S1: What did they. 124 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,520 S2: Call? I was always Jim. No, I was always Jim. 125 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,680 S2: Always Jim. And so yeah, always Jim. It was funny 126 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,160 S2: because even in in school, you know, when you have 127 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,640 S2: the teachers who don't know who they are, who they 128 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,520 S2: have in their class, they would always change my name. 129 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,000 S2: My official name is James. But to Jim. And so 130 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,800 S2: I've met a few people over the years who'd like 131 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,680 S2: to be called James. And it's always strange to me 132 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,800 S2: because I've always was known by Jim. Uh, but yeah, no, 133 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,120 S2: I was a strange bird in high school. I was, uh, 134 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,760 S2: I was somebody who liked, you know, studying. I loved, 135 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,920 S2: you know, literature and I loved doing well. Uh, but 136 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,160 S2: I also was hanging out with what we technically called 137 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,760 S2: the burnouts back then. And so I was doing a 138 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,360 S2: lot of things on weekends that I shouldn't be doing, uh, 139 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,960 S2: in a number of ways. Uh, and, but yet I 140 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,000 S2: just found them to be a little more real, but 141 00:07:50,050 --> 00:07:53,810 S2: their their lives were also messed up as well. And 142 00:07:53,930 --> 00:07:56,490 S2: so the Lord got Ahold of me midway through my 143 00:07:56,490 --> 00:07:58,970 S2: senior year in high school. There was a couple of 144 00:07:58,970 --> 00:08:02,250 S2: Christian classmates who invited me to come hear them sing 145 00:08:02,690 --> 00:08:06,410 S2: at a Christmas cantata. Uh, and so it wasn't the 146 00:08:06,410 --> 00:08:08,850 S2: singing that really enamored me that day, though. It was good. 147 00:08:08,850 --> 00:08:11,450 S2: I'm sure it was the message of the gospel that 148 00:08:11,450 --> 00:08:14,930 S2: really just penetrated my heart, because I grew up as 149 00:08:14,930 --> 00:08:17,770 S2: a Boy Scout. And, uh, even though it wasn't always 150 00:08:17,770 --> 00:08:20,090 S2: necessarily the best of influence on me because I learned 151 00:08:20,090 --> 00:08:23,930 S2: some things I shouldn't be doing. But at the same time, 152 00:08:24,370 --> 00:08:28,130 S2: I realized that that Boy Scout mentality just didn't make sense. 153 00:08:28,130 --> 00:08:30,010 S2: All you had to do was just be good, you know, 154 00:08:30,050 --> 00:08:33,330 S2: do good. Yeah. Uh, and, uh, and so all of 155 00:08:33,330 --> 00:08:36,329 S2: a sudden, when the message of the cross of Jesus 156 00:08:36,330 --> 00:08:39,050 S2: Christ and the coming to earth all of a sudden 157 00:08:39,050 --> 00:08:42,449 S2: resonated with me to realize that if all I had 158 00:08:42,450 --> 00:08:44,530 S2: to be was be good in order to get to heaven, 159 00:08:44,530 --> 00:08:46,650 S2: then why did Jesus have to come to earth as 160 00:08:46,650 --> 00:08:49,140 S2: a babe? And then why did he die on the cross? Oh, 161 00:08:49,580 --> 00:08:52,020 S2: it's because I am a sinner. And he came to 162 00:08:52,380 --> 00:08:54,660 S2: deal with that sin. And I just need to receive 163 00:08:54,660 --> 00:08:57,140 S2: it as a free gift. And and so the rest 164 00:08:57,140 --> 00:08:59,900 S2: is history. And it's just been a wonderful journey ever 165 00:08:59,900 --> 00:09:02,620 S2: since January of 1979. 166 00:09:02,900 --> 00:09:07,059 S1: Oh, struck by the beauty and the simplicity of the gospel, 167 00:09:07,100 --> 00:09:10,260 S1: the free gift of salvation, that of course, we cannot 168 00:09:10,260 --> 00:09:13,660 S1: be good. There's not one of us who can live 169 00:09:13,700 --> 00:09:17,940 S1: a perfect, sinless life. But Jesus did and took our place. 170 00:09:17,940 --> 00:09:21,179 S1: And my goodness, I hope that the gospel never gets 171 00:09:21,220 --> 00:09:23,740 S1: old for you. We're going to have more with Doctor 172 00:09:23,740 --> 00:09:27,060 S1: Jim Coakley as we talk about these 14 Fresh ways 173 00:09:27,059 --> 00:09:29,179 S1: to enjoy the Bible. But I want to make sure 174 00:09:29,179 --> 00:09:30,860 S1: you know about our question that I would love to 175 00:09:30,860 --> 00:09:33,340 S1: hear and have you jump in the conversation as well. 176 00:09:33,540 --> 00:09:36,300 S1: When did words from the Bible jump off the page 177 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:39,260 S1: for you? What was happening in your life that made 178 00:09:39,260 --> 00:09:42,820 S1: those words so timely, as if they were written that 179 00:09:42,820 --> 00:09:45,860 S1: day just for you? Give us a call here on 180 00:09:45,860 --> 00:09:56,230 S1: Chris Fabry Live eight. 58775483675. Taking your calls this hour. (877) 548-3675. 181 00:10:02,190 --> 00:10:04,430 S3: This is Chris Fabry live. We will get right back 182 00:10:04,429 --> 00:10:06,390 S3: to the program. But first I want to tell you 183 00:10:06,390 --> 00:10:09,670 S3: about Doctor John Perkins. He lived through Jim Crow. His 184 00:10:09,670 --> 00:10:13,309 S3: brother was killed. John nearly died in the Brandon jail. 185 00:10:13,550 --> 00:10:17,189 S3: And yet he didn't live with bitterness. He chose forgiveness. 186 00:10:17,429 --> 00:10:21,110 S3: And his parting words to the church are words of love. 187 00:10:21,429 --> 00:10:24,429 S3: In his book One Blood, Doctor Perkins reminds us of 188 00:10:24,429 --> 00:10:27,390 S3: a biblical truth we can't afford to ignore. We are 189 00:10:27,390 --> 00:10:31,830 S3: one blood, one race, one people in Christ. I would 190 00:10:31,830 --> 00:10:34,069 S3: love to send you a copy of that book today. 191 00:10:34,070 --> 00:10:38,110 S3: Give a gift of any amount. Go to Chris fabry.org 192 00:10:39,230 --> 00:10:42,790 S3: and give right there Chris fabry.org. Or you can call 193 00:10:42,790 --> 00:10:52,090 S3: us at 38669532279. And thank you for your support of 194 00:10:52,090 --> 00:10:53,770 S3: the radio backyard fence. 195 00:10:58,570 --> 00:11:01,050 S1: What a beautiful thing it is to be able to 196 00:11:01,090 --> 00:11:04,250 S1: open the Word of God and know that God is 197 00:11:04,250 --> 00:11:06,929 S1: speaking to you. If anyone ever asks you, how do 198 00:11:06,929 --> 00:11:10,010 S1: you know if God is speaking to you? Well, the 199 00:11:10,010 --> 00:11:13,170 S1: Word of God should be our first and primary answer. 200 00:11:13,929 --> 00:11:16,530 S1: I'm Allie in for Chris on Chris Fabry live today. 201 00:11:16,570 --> 00:11:22,970 S1: Taking your calls (877) 548-3675. Tell me about a time when 202 00:11:22,970 --> 00:11:26,530 S1: the words from the Bible jumped off the page for you. 203 00:11:26,570 --> 00:11:29,250 S1: What was happening in your life that made those words 204 00:11:29,250 --> 00:11:32,370 S1: so timely for you? Let's go to Steve calling in 205 00:11:32,370 --> 00:11:35,090 S1: this morning from New Hampshire. Steve, tell me, what was 206 00:11:35,090 --> 00:11:38,650 S1: the verse and what made it so impactful on that day? 207 00:11:40,809 --> 00:11:45,100 S4: Yes. Hi. I appreciate you taking my call. Uh, as 208 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:47,660 S4: soon as you said, uh, verse, it jumps off the 209 00:11:47,660 --> 00:11:52,420 S4: page at you. I automatically reflected back into April of 210 00:11:52,420 --> 00:11:58,300 S4: 1996 when I. Lost my daughter in a car crash. 211 00:11:58,340 --> 00:12:01,339 S4: It was about a week after her funeral. I was 212 00:12:01,340 --> 00:12:07,340 S4: just flipping through Scripture and I came across Isaiah chapter 57, 213 00:12:07,340 --> 00:12:12,660 S4: verses one and two, which basically said, I'll paraphrase. I'm 214 00:12:12,820 --> 00:12:16,900 S4: not at a position to read it from Scripture, but, uh, 215 00:12:16,940 --> 00:12:22,260 S4: it said God takes his loved ones home to protect 216 00:12:22,260 --> 00:12:27,100 S4: them from evil. And it was just like the Lord 217 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:31,780 S4: just speaking directly to me through those verses and what 218 00:12:31,820 --> 00:12:34,980 S4: great comfort that I received. And of course, I shared 219 00:12:34,980 --> 00:12:39,260 S4: that with the rest of my family and everyone else 220 00:12:39,260 --> 00:12:43,750 S4: and our, uh, our church family here in Concord. So 221 00:12:44,790 --> 00:12:48,830 S4: I appreciate your putting that question out there. It really 222 00:12:50,750 --> 00:12:51,750 S4: hit home with me. 223 00:12:51,790 --> 00:12:54,750 S1: So Steve, I appreciate your call. And, you know, you 224 00:12:54,750 --> 00:12:58,190 S1: can hear in your voice it's your 17 year old daughter, 225 00:12:58,190 --> 00:13:01,230 S1: and it's been many years now, but the Lord is 226 00:13:01,230 --> 00:13:03,950 S1: still walking you through that healing process, isn't he, Steve? 227 00:13:05,309 --> 00:13:10,030 S4: That is absolutely correct, even after 30 years this year. 228 00:13:10,030 --> 00:13:13,430 S1: So yeah, Steve, thank you so much for sharing that 229 00:13:13,429 --> 00:13:16,790 S1: with us this morning. That, uh, powerful passage of scripture, 230 00:13:16,790 --> 00:13:20,590 S1: Isaiah 571 through two. Let's go to Donald calling in 231 00:13:20,590 --> 00:13:23,510 S1: this morning from Springfield, Illinois. Donald, tell me, what was 232 00:13:23,510 --> 00:13:26,190 S1: that verse that jumped off the page for you? 233 00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:30,429 S5: Well, thank you for taking my call. I really appreciate it. 234 00:13:30,630 --> 00:13:32,949 S5: I'm the verse that jumped off the page for me 235 00:13:32,990 --> 00:13:37,870 S5: was second Corinthians 517 if any man be in Christ, 236 00:13:37,910 --> 00:13:41,990 S5: he is a new creation. Old things have passed away. Behold, 237 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,800 S5: all things have become new. And it was at a 238 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,240 S5: point in my life when I was very angry. I 239 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,800 S5: used to have a foul mouth. I used profanity, and 240 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,200 S5: that verse really got into my heart. On one day 241 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,280 S5: when I wanted to use profanity. But I couldn't curse, 242 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,240 S5: I couldn't say those four letter words, and I couldn't 243 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,520 S5: begin to feel how the Lord was changing my life. 244 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,480 S5: And it was that verse that jumped off the page. 245 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,200 S5: And from that moment forward, I can feel that that 246 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:16,520 S5: miraculous change happening in my behavior and my attitude toward people. 247 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:21,320 S5: And right today, 30 years later, I no longer use profanity. 248 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,960 S5: I know I may think about those four letter words, 249 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,120 S5: but I won't say them. And I believe I believe 250 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,040 S5: it was that verse. I can't say it. So instead 251 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,600 S5: of saying that other word, I'll say, oh, shoot. Yep. 252 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,680 S1: Donald from Springfield, Illinois. I love that if anyone is 253 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,410 S1: in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has gone, 254 00:14:41,690 --> 00:14:44,850 S1: the new has come. Appreciate it. If you've got a 255 00:14:44,930 --> 00:14:47,450 S1: phone call for us, we'd love to hear about that 256 00:14:47,450 --> 00:14:50,290 S1: verse that jumped off the page for you. What was 257 00:14:50,290 --> 00:14:53,010 S1: it and why was it so impactful for you on 258 00:14:53,050 --> 00:15:02,050 S1: that day? Eight. 7754836758775483675. Want to get back to our 259 00:15:02,050 --> 00:15:05,210 S1: guest this hour? Doctor Jim Coakley, professor here at Moody 260 00:15:05,210 --> 00:15:09,530 S1: Bible Institute, author of 14 Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible. 261 00:15:09,690 --> 00:15:13,610 S1: When we think about our approach to Bible reading, a 262 00:15:13,650 --> 00:15:16,010 S1: lot of times we know that we're supposed to read 263 00:15:16,010 --> 00:15:18,130 S1: the Word of God. And a lot of times people 264 00:15:18,370 --> 00:15:21,450 S1: open a, maybe a follow a read through the Bible 265 00:15:21,450 --> 00:15:24,650 S1: in a year plan or some sort of devotional. Why 266 00:15:24,650 --> 00:15:27,130 S1: is it that that so often though, we can feel 267 00:15:27,130 --> 00:15:30,090 S1: like we're getting stuck, even though we have good intentions 268 00:15:30,090 --> 00:15:31,410 S1: in our approach to the word? 269 00:15:32,170 --> 00:15:34,890 S2: Well, I think today we have so many distractions and 270 00:15:34,890 --> 00:15:37,490 S2: so many things that kind of compete for our time 271 00:15:37,490 --> 00:15:41,340 S2: and our focus, especially, used to be there wasn't as 272 00:15:41,340 --> 00:15:44,540 S2: many distractions. You had to, you know, be very intentional 273 00:15:44,540 --> 00:15:48,980 S2: about maybe even entertainment choices. But now entertainment choices are, 274 00:15:49,020 --> 00:15:51,900 S2: are just a click away, you know, and so it's 275 00:15:51,900 --> 00:15:55,020 S2: really challenging. Then you got to compete, as it were. 276 00:15:55,140 --> 00:15:57,340 S2: It's kind of the same thing for me in the classroom. 277 00:15:57,380 --> 00:15:59,940 S2: I mean, our students come and they have so many 278 00:15:59,940 --> 00:16:03,020 S2: things now that are competing for their time and energy. 279 00:16:03,020 --> 00:16:04,980 S2: And so part of my job is not just to 280 00:16:05,020 --> 00:16:06,980 S2: teach the subject, but it's also to do what I 281 00:16:06,980 --> 00:16:10,580 S2: call sales to kind of sell the subject. And for me, 282 00:16:10,580 --> 00:16:13,060 S2: I get the perfect sales job. I get to sell 283 00:16:13,060 --> 00:16:15,540 S2: the Word of God and why it is important. And 284 00:16:15,540 --> 00:16:17,780 S2: if you just spend the time and effort to invest 285 00:16:17,780 --> 00:16:21,060 S2: in it, it will pay off rich dividends. And so 286 00:16:21,060 --> 00:16:23,500 S2: that's the I think that's the challenge. I think, you know, 287 00:16:23,540 --> 00:16:26,020 S2: all of us have gone, even myself have gone through 288 00:16:26,140 --> 00:16:29,780 S2: kind of dry stretches where the word of God just 289 00:16:29,780 --> 00:16:32,420 S2: kind of is kind of perfunctory reading, or we just 290 00:16:32,420 --> 00:16:35,220 S2: kind of do it by, you know, by force. And 291 00:16:35,220 --> 00:16:38,190 S2: some of those even even that can be necessarily not 292 00:16:38,190 --> 00:16:41,910 S2: necessarily bad because it can still, in a sense, you know, 293 00:16:41,950 --> 00:16:45,030 S2: provide nourishment. It's like, I don't remember the meals I 294 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:47,710 S2: had all last week, but I know they provided me nourishment. 295 00:16:47,710 --> 00:16:51,350 S2: So even when we don't get necessarily something exciting out 296 00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:54,390 S2: of God's Word, there's still nourishment that comes every time 297 00:16:54,390 --> 00:16:56,190 S2: we are exposed to it because it's not going to 298 00:16:56,190 --> 00:16:57,190 S2: return to him void. 299 00:16:57,390 --> 00:16:59,710 S1: You know, you mentioned in the intro to this book, 300 00:16:59,750 --> 00:17:02,590 S1: you used a little bit of an analogy from The 301 00:17:02,590 --> 00:17:05,750 S1: Wizard of Oz, which anyone who's ever watched that movie, 302 00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:08,110 S1: you think of Dorothy on that yellow brick road and 303 00:17:08,109 --> 00:17:11,429 S1: that little dog Toto, and we're not in Kansas anymore. 304 00:17:12,070 --> 00:17:15,110 S1: Explain how you your goal for this book is for 305 00:17:15,109 --> 00:17:18,950 S1: us to have sort of that experience, as is depicted 306 00:17:18,950 --> 00:17:20,070 S1: in The Wizard of Oz. 307 00:17:20,590 --> 00:17:23,550 S2: Yeah. I mean, everyone knows that the iconic scene it 308 00:17:23,550 --> 00:17:25,470 S2: goes starts out in black and white and all of 309 00:17:25,470 --> 00:17:28,350 S2: a sudden the her, you know, the tornado or hurricane 310 00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:31,990 S2: or tornado happens and it whisks the house away and 311 00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:35,190 S2: suddenly she's in a new place and color and all 312 00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:39,370 S2: of a sudden there's all sorts of new new visual 313 00:17:39,369 --> 00:17:42,610 S2: stimulation and things that she's got to confront. And, you know, 314 00:17:42,650 --> 00:17:45,490 S2: the house lands on the Wicked Witch of the East 315 00:17:46,210 --> 00:17:48,490 S2: or the West or which one? I don't know which one. 316 00:17:48,570 --> 00:17:52,610 S2: But the idea was, is that, you know, uh, you know, 317 00:17:52,650 --> 00:17:57,250 S2: that that really then kind of sets the tone for, uh, 318 00:17:57,250 --> 00:18:00,890 S2: the idea that we're, we have to pay attention to 319 00:18:00,930 --> 00:18:04,290 S2: these kind of notions that are going on. And that's why, 320 00:18:04,330 --> 00:18:07,570 S2: you know, throughout the book, I use the examples from 321 00:18:07,570 --> 00:18:11,010 S2: all sorts of great literature and great films, because a 322 00:18:11,010 --> 00:18:12,889 S2: lot of the techniques that I talk about in the 323 00:18:12,890 --> 00:18:15,409 S2: book are found in all of the great pieces of 324 00:18:15,410 --> 00:18:18,970 S2: literature and film that we are exposed to. Uh, so 325 00:18:19,010 --> 00:18:22,330 S2: I'm up in Door County this week with my grandchildren, 326 00:18:22,330 --> 00:18:25,170 S2: and I'm reading The Hobbit to them. And I just 327 00:18:25,170 --> 00:18:28,449 S2: was struck by, you know, yes, there's the narrative's exciting 328 00:18:28,490 --> 00:18:32,209 S2: about dragons and hobbits, hobbits and, and dwarves and all 329 00:18:32,210 --> 00:18:34,409 S2: those kind of things. But all of a sudden, you know, 330 00:18:34,450 --> 00:18:37,620 S2: the dwarves break forth into song and I think, oh, 331 00:18:37,740 --> 00:18:39,980 S2: that's one of the techniques. I talk about the idea 332 00:18:39,980 --> 00:18:44,100 S2: of poetic diamonds and the the songs then really capture 333 00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:47,020 S2: the mood of the theme of the narrative around it. 334 00:18:47,020 --> 00:18:49,220 S2: And so all of a sudden are I now have 335 00:18:49,220 --> 00:18:52,820 S2: appreciation for what Tolkien was doing with that. And the 336 00:18:52,820 --> 00:18:56,420 S2: same thing that Tolkien was doing, you know, Moses was doing, 337 00:18:56,420 --> 00:18:59,940 S2: Isaiah was doing, Luke was doing. Uh, and so it 338 00:18:59,940 --> 00:19:02,699 S2: just helps to kind of have, uh, we have to 339 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:05,020 S2: say this is a little back to vacation Bible school 340 00:19:05,020 --> 00:19:07,780 S2: for our listeners. Even though it's kind of summer months, 341 00:19:07,780 --> 00:19:09,900 S2: we're kind of in the midst of that. I think 342 00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:12,980 S2: we can still kind of wrap up, uh, not, not 343 00:19:12,980 --> 00:19:16,139 S2: wrap up our learning, but to focus on what is 344 00:19:16,140 --> 00:19:18,820 S2: it that we can do. And I was struck too, 345 00:19:18,820 --> 00:19:22,580 S2: when you asked that question for our audience today. You know, 346 00:19:22,619 --> 00:19:24,619 S2: is there a verse that jumped out? Well, I would 347 00:19:24,619 --> 00:19:26,700 S2: like to think that maybe there's a lot of people 348 00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:28,939 S2: who don't have a verse that jumps out at them. 349 00:19:29,220 --> 00:19:31,740 S2: And maybe this is the, you know, this is the, 350 00:19:31,940 --> 00:19:34,430 S2: the hour for them is to say, okay, here's what 351 00:19:34,430 --> 00:19:36,909 S2: you can do so that you can have verses jump 352 00:19:36,910 --> 00:19:39,870 S2: out when you read God's pages. If you just have 353 00:19:39,869 --> 00:19:42,070 S2: a reading strategy. And that's really what my book is 354 00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:42,869 S2: all about. 355 00:19:42,869 --> 00:19:45,510 S1: So let's talk about some of these techniques. Doctor Jim 356 00:19:45,510 --> 00:19:48,750 S1: Coakley with us this afternoon. 14 Fresh Ways to enjoy 357 00:19:48,750 --> 00:19:52,710 S1: the Bible. You mentioned poetic diamonds. That's one of the techniques. 358 00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:55,350 S1: Looking for poetic diamonds. Explain that a little bit further. 359 00:19:56,150 --> 00:19:58,470 S2: Yeah. This is kind of where, you know, all of 360 00:19:58,470 --> 00:20:00,190 S2: a sudden you have a narrative text. Now we know 361 00:20:00,190 --> 00:20:03,830 S2: there's Bible books that are all poetry, Psalms and job 362 00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:06,710 S2: and Proverbs and stuff like that, but I'm talking about 363 00:20:06,710 --> 00:20:08,950 S2: in books that are not what we consider to be 364 00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:12,590 S2: normally poetic. They're narrative. Like all of a sudden you 365 00:20:12,590 --> 00:20:17,110 S2: have these poetic insets or poetic diamonds, I call them, 366 00:20:17,109 --> 00:20:20,390 S2: where the narrative is, quote, interrupted by a little piece 367 00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:24,469 S2: of lyrical content. It happens right in the first chapter 368 00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:27,390 S2: of the Bible. In fact, in Genesis chapter one, uh, 369 00:20:27,390 --> 00:20:30,470 S2: we have the idea that we are made in God's image. 370 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:34,200 S2: And that's a poetic insert, a chapter two. Same thing. 371 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,120 S2: We have a poetic diamond there where we have the 372 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,080 S2: creation about man and everything for man. And all of 373 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,520 S2: a sudden Adam, at the end of the chapter, sings, 374 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,000 S2: bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh, for 375 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,920 S2: she should be called woman, for she was taken out 376 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,840 S2: of man. And we're talking about the heightened, heightened relationship 377 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,480 S2: of all kind that between a man and a woman 378 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,679 S2: and that's worthy of singing. Uh, and so it then 379 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,400 S2: shows a peak, a kind of a kind of prominent 380 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,840 S2: point in the narrative. And this happens all throughout the Bible. Uh, 381 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,040 S2: Luke's gospel starts with a couple of songs. You have 382 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,720 S2: the Simeon song and Mary song, and those songs are 383 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,480 S2: not just interruptions, but they are really ways to kind 384 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,080 S2: of make sure that you're picking up on what the 385 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,640 S2: biblical author is stressing by way of theme. Uh, and 386 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,440 S2: so all of a sudden we realize that what Simeon 387 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,000 S2: songs does and what Mary's song does is really help 388 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,440 S2: us with the theme of what these books are being 389 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:35,210 S2: written for. And so this is, again, something most musicals 390 00:21:35,250 --> 00:21:37,409 S2: kind of do this, but yet the Bible was the 391 00:21:37,410 --> 00:21:38,530 S2: best musical of all. 392 00:21:39,450 --> 00:21:41,810 S1: I mean, I used to do a little bit of 393 00:21:41,850 --> 00:21:45,730 S1: community theater. Fun fact back in the day. During the summers, 394 00:21:45,730 --> 00:21:49,330 S1: me and my siblings would usually audition for the play, 395 00:21:49,330 --> 00:21:51,890 S1: whatever the local theater was putting on. They would ask 396 00:21:51,890 --> 00:21:53,930 S1: some kids to be a part of it. I never 397 00:21:53,930 --> 00:21:56,850 S1: got a good part, but it was always funny how 398 00:21:56,850 --> 00:21:58,850 S1: you would have moments where you would all of a 399 00:21:58,850 --> 00:22:02,090 S1: sudden break into song, and you see that in every 400 00:22:02,090 --> 00:22:04,850 S1: good musical. All of a sudden there's just singing. I mean, 401 00:22:05,170 --> 00:22:07,609 S1: same thing with The Wizard of Oz. Let's talk about 402 00:22:07,609 --> 00:22:10,450 S1: first impressions. This has been one of my favorite ones 403 00:22:10,450 --> 00:22:12,730 S1: that I've heard you share on this a couple of times. 404 00:22:12,730 --> 00:22:15,570 S1: Why are first impressions so important in scripture? 405 00:22:16,170 --> 00:22:18,290 S2: Yeah, I think this is really the technique that kind 406 00:22:18,330 --> 00:22:20,690 S2: of got me started on, you know, hey, these are 407 00:22:20,690 --> 00:22:24,050 S2: really helpful techniques because I never heard these things when 408 00:22:24,050 --> 00:22:27,290 S2: I was even in Bible school way back in the day. 409 00:22:27,650 --> 00:22:31,619 S2: And so just having these kind of things to look for. 410 00:22:31,660 --> 00:22:34,460 S2: As you're reading the Bible, you become more active. And 411 00:22:34,460 --> 00:22:36,980 S2: this one is really simple. When a character of the Bible, 412 00:22:36,980 --> 00:22:40,100 S2: whether it's major or minor one, is introduced in the 413 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:42,899 S2: pages of the God's Word. Isolate 3 or 4 things. 414 00:22:43,180 --> 00:22:46,860 S2: You want to isolate any physical descriptor. Oftentimes there's not 415 00:22:46,859 --> 00:22:49,859 S2: much to work with, but sometimes there is because authors 416 00:22:49,859 --> 00:22:53,260 S2: have to be. And this is kind of maybe something 417 00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:56,540 S2: new for a lot of listeners are biblical authors can't 418 00:22:56,540 --> 00:22:58,780 S2: share it all. And so they have to be very, 419 00:22:58,780 --> 00:23:01,700 S2: very selective in what they give. So what they do 420 00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:04,820 S2: give then is something for us to kind of then 421 00:23:04,859 --> 00:23:06,740 S2: work with, to kind of say, okay, what does that 422 00:23:06,740 --> 00:23:11,500 S2: imply when they say that Esau is red and hairy? Oh, okay. 423 00:23:11,540 --> 00:23:14,220 S2: Esau is red and hairy because he's an effective hunter. Well, 424 00:23:14,220 --> 00:23:17,340 S2: he's got built in camouflage and he looks like an animal. Uh, 425 00:23:17,340 --> 00:23:19,420 S2: and so all of a sudden it explains why he's 426 00:23:19,420 --> 00:23:22,940 S2: such an effective hunter. So that little, little detail of 427 00:23:22,980 --> 00:23:27,180 S2: a physical descriptor really helps to kind of characterize or 428 00:23:27,220 --> 00:23:30,390 S2: kind of give a thumbnail of who Esau is. And 429 00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:32,990 S2: then so that's one. But the two that are really 430 00:23:32,990 --> 00:23:35,950 S2: easy to track and are more prominent is look for 431 00:23:35,950 --> 00:23:38,910 S2: their first words. What are the first things that the 432 00:23:38,910 --> 00:23:42,510 S2: biblical author says comes out of their mouth in the text? 433 00:23:42,550 --> 00:23:44,350 S2: Now we know it's not the first words that come 434 00:23:44,350 --> 00:23:47,830 S2: out of their mouth in real time because they spoke, 435 00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:50,950 S2: but what are the first words that are recorded that 436 00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:54,510 S2: come from the lips of one of the characters? And 437 00:23:54,510 --> 00:23:56,830 S2: so this is what the nobody ever told me. And 438 00:23:56,830 --> 00:23:59,550 S2: this is a takeaway for all of our listeners. Look 439 00:23:59,550 --> 00:24:02,630 S2: for quotation marks and ask the question, why did the 440 00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:06,750 S2: author yield the microphone over to the character, especially for 441 00:24:06,750 --> 00:24:09,310 S2: the first time? What are the first words we hear 442 00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:12,830 S2: coming out of a character's mouth? Uh, and then also 443 00:24:12,830 --> 00:24:15,510 S2: then we want to see what are their first actions. Uh, 444 00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:18,750 S2: what do they first see be seen doing when we 445 00:24:18,750 --> 00:24:21,510 S2: encountered them in the pages of God's Word and all 446 00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:24,630 S2: of a sudden, you know, the great Scripture, like Abraham, 447 00:24:24,670 --> 00:24:27,150 S2: he's telling his wife the first time we hear him 448 00:24:27,150 --> 00:24:29,090 S2: them to tell them that you're my sister. So it's 449 00:24:29,130 --> 00:24:32,090 S2: a half truth. So we know that Abraham is is 450 00:24:32,130 --> 00:24:35,570 S2: a little bit can fudge on on the truth sometimes. 451 00:24:35,570 --> 00:24:38,250 S2: But we the first action we see, he he goes, 452 00:24:38,250 --> 00:24:40,929 S2: just as the Lord commanded. We see him as somebody 453 00:24:40,930 --> 00:24:44,170 S2: who's obedient. And this is the. The beauty of it 454 00:24:44,170 --> 00:24:48,330 S2: for me is that, yes, they portray the great traits 455 00:24:48,330 --> 00:24:50,930 S2: that we know these characters of Scripture to have, like 456 00:24:50,970 --> 00:24:54,810 S2: Abraham's obedience. But we also see their Achilles heel, their 457 00:24:54,810 --> 00:24:59,290 S2: negative flaws, and they're also foregrounded really early on. And 458 00:24:59,290 --> 00:25:02,889 S2: so we see Abraham's kind of thing to kind of 459 00:25:02,930 --> 00:25:07,330 S2: equivocate between doing what's right and doing what's helpful for him. 460 00:25:07,810 --> 00:25:10,010 S2: And so that's a trait that we see all the 461 00:25:10,010 --> 00:25:12,370 S2: way through the rest of Abraham's life. And so that 462 00:25:12,369 --> 00:25:16,570 S2: little portrait, that little thumbnail first impressions is really helpful. 463 00:25:16,570 --> 00:25:18,450 S2: Then to kind of give a little bit of a, 464 00:25:18,450 --> 00:25:20,570 S2: an understanding of what that character is going to be 465 00:25:20,570 --> 00:25:22,810 S2: like the rest of the way we encounter them. 466 00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:26,300 S1: Doctor Jim Coakley with us. The book is called 14 467 00:25:26,300 --> 00:25:30,379 S1: Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible. Still taking your calls 468 00:25:30,380 --> 00:25:33,580 S1: on this question? When did the Word of God jump 469 00:25:33,580 --> 00:25:36,500 S1: off the page for you? What was that verse? It 470 00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:38,820 S1: comes to mind. Man, it's as if it was written 471 00:25:38,820 --> 00:25:41,619 S1: that day just for you. It's what your heart needed. 472 00:25:41,859 --> 00:25:48,500 S1: And God knew what was that? Verse (877) 548-3675. Taking your 473 00:25:48,500 --> 00:26:05,780 S1: calls (877) 548-3675. When I think about the times when I'm 474 00:26:05,780 --> 00:26:09,460 S1: reading my Bible and those words jump off the page, 475 00:26:09,580 --> 00:26:12,940 S1: and it is the truth that my heart needs in 476 00:26:12,940 --> 00:26:16,540 S1: just that moment. It's the beautiful thing about whether you've 477 00:26:16,540 --> 00:26:19,580 S1: been reading the Bible for just a short amount of 478 00:26:19,580 --> 00:26:24,300 S1: time or decades, the Word of God is living and active. 479 00:26:24,340 --> 00:26:27,629 S1: It's sharper than any double edged sword. It penetrates even 480 00:26:27,630 --> 00:26:31,230 S1: to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow. That's out 481 00:26:31,230 --> 00:26:35,830 S1: of Hebrews 412. So today we're we're celebrating those moments 482 00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:39,470 S1: where the Word of God speaks directly to your heart. 483 00:26:39,470 --> 00:26:41,910 S1: It's truth. It's always been there. Maybe you've read it 484 00:26:41,910 --> 00:26:45,150 S1: a dozen times before, but on that day, it's what 485 00:26:45,150 --> 00:26:55,270 S1: your heart needed to hear. Uh, give us a call 87754836758775483675. 486 00:26:55,310 --> 00:26:58,070 S1: I'm Ali, by the way normally on in the mornings 487 00:26:58,070 --> 00:27:01,430 S1: with Carl and crew if you listen during the morning hours. 488 00:27:01,430 --> 00:27:03,510 S1: Filling in for Chris just for a couple of days 489 00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:06,109 S1: this week, have the great privilege of having a special 490 00:27:06,109 --> 00:27:09,109 S1: guest joining us for this hour, Doctor Jim Coakley. He's 491 00:27:09,109 --> 00:27:11,429 S1: a professor here at Moody Bible Institute. He's written a 492 00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:15,350 S1: great book, 14 Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible. Quick 493 00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:18,630 S1: note on the book, Christianity Today awarded it the Book 494 00:27:18,670 --> 00:27:22,470 S1: Award for Bible and Devotional in 2024. So this you 495 00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:25,480 S1: have written Doctor Coakley an award winning book. I know 496 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,760 S1: that was not your goal. I know you take no 497 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,200 S1: glory in that, but congrats, because that's pretty awesome that 498 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,680 S1: that many people are enjoying it. 499 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,720 S2: Yeah, that was quite an honor. I mean, it's hard. 500 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,560 S2: I mean, I've written chapters for, you know, moody Bible 501 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,159 S2: commentary and other things, but this was my first quote 502 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,040 S2: solo book and to have it win an award right 503 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,720 S2: off the bat, I don't want to write anything more 504 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,400 S2: for fear I'm only going to go downhill after this. 505 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,359 S2: But no, it was really an honor. But it really, 506 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,680 S2: I think, really speaks to, I think, a need that 507 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,000 S2: a lot of people have sensed is that they want 508 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,960 S2: to read the Bible, but they just need a little 509 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,880 S2: help to kind of have a little better strategy. It's 510 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,439 S2: not a study. The Bible book, though. Certainly there's lots 511 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,040 S2: of great books that can help you dig into, you know, the, 512 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:16,080 S2: the idea of, you know, kind of interpretation and application 513 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,280 S2: and observation. There's books that this, this is really more 514 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,330 S2: on that observation stage. What should you be observing and 515 00:28:23,330 --> 00:28:26,570 S2: what strategies that you can look for? And so over 516 00:28:26,570 --> 00:28:29,570 S2: the years, teaching at Moody, I've just found a number 517 00:28:29,570 --> 00:28:32,690 S2: of these easy to kind of grasp techniques that I 518 00:28:32,730 --> 00:28:35,570 S2: missed out on when I was, uh, early on in 519 00:28:35,570 --> 00:28:38,810 S2: my Bible reading career, so to speak. And so to 520 00:28:38,850 --> 00:28:42,010 S2: be able to help others to see the same things 521 00:28:42,250 --> 00:28:45,690 S2: in the Bible and to see fresh things for themselves 522 00:28:45,690 --> 00:28:48,810 S2: so that the Bible can come alive for them is really, 523 00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:50,690 S2: really meaningful to me personally. 524 00:28:51,010 --> 00:28:53,209 S1: Doctor Coakley, with us for the hour. I want to 525 00:28:53,210 --> 00:28:57,290 S1: bring in Regina, who's calling in this morning. From this afternoon. 526 00:28:57,290 --> 00:28:59,890 S1: Forgive me. I keep thinking that this is the morning. 527 00:28:59,890 --> 00:29:03,130 S1: We are well into the day. Regina Lake Forest, Illinois. 528 00:29:03,330 --> 00:29:05,650 S1: Tell me, what was that verse that jumped off the 529 00:29:05,650 --> 00:29:08,530 S1: page for you and what made it so meaningful on 530 00:29:08,570 --> 00:29:09,209 S1: that day? 531 00:29:10,890 --> 00:29:18,930 S6: So second, Samuel, um, chapter 1222 through 23. Uh, I 532 00:29:19,090 --> 00:29:22,860 S6: did lose my son in a, um, you know, he 533 00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:28,300 S6: committed suicide. And I really was very, very upset. And 534 00:29:28,540 --> 00:29:34,020 S6: I read about David's loss and why he decided that 535 00:29:34,020 --> 00:29:38,100 S6: now he can get up, you know, start eating and, 536 00:29:38,220 --> 00:29:43,100 S6: and living because he felt that his righteous life would 537 00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:46,340 S6: allow him to see his son again. So that's why 538 00:29:46,340 --> 00:29:49,380 S6: I really like this passage, why it meant so much 539 00:29:49,380 --> 00:29:49,940 S6: to me. 540 00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:54,220 S1: Yeah. Regina, thank you for your call. Very, very sorry 541 00:29:54,220 --> 00:29:56,980 S1: for the loss of your son. God met you in 542 00:29:56,980 --> 00:29:59,420 S1: his word that day. Is that what I'm hearing? 543 00:30:00,780 --> 00:30:01,940 S6: I think so, yeah. 544 00:30:02,340 --> 00:30:05,500 S1: Thank you for calling in. We've got Mike calling in 545 00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:08,820 S1: also from Illinois. Mike, tell me that verse that jumped 546 00:30:08,820 --> 00:30:11,740 S1: off the page for you and what was going on 547 00:30:11,740 --> 00:30:14,180 S1: in your life that made it so impactful. 548 00:30:14,980 --> 00:30:18,980 S7: Well, the verse is second Corinthians six, verse 14. I 549 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,880 S7: was a fairly new Christian when a Christian when I 550 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,200 S7: was a freshman at Princeton University, and I fell for 551 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,800 S7: a Jewish girl, and we got to know each other, 552 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,960 S7: and I knew that I wanted to give her the gospel, 553 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,680 S7: to give her a chance to come to Christ. Uh, 554 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,640 S7: and around Christmas time, I talked to her specifically about 555 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,480 S7: the Lord, how to come to the Lord. And she said, 556 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,480 S7: I'm not quite ready for a commitment like that. So 557 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,880 S7: I knew I couldn't be as close to her as 558 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,200 S7: I wanted to be because she wasn't saved. Then in 559 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,120 S7: my normal Bible reading, I purposed to read the Bible. 560 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,280 S7: I didn't know the Bible. So I started with Matthew 561 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,280 S7: one and I just read one chapter a day. And my, 562 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,880 S7: in my own, uh, discussion or my own reading, I 563 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:09,280 S7: came across Corinthians 614, do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. 564 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,680 S7: And that verse jumped right out of the Bible with 565 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,360 S7: my name on it, where I realized you never should 566 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,210 S7: have been chasing Betsy in the first place. And so 567 00:31:19,810 --> 00:31:23,490 S7: I'm not against people giving the gospel to someone, not 568 00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:26,570 S7: their gender. But I recognize now, having been in the 569 00:31:26,570 --> 00:31:30,730 S7: ministry and just growing in the Lord, that you can't, 570 00:31:31,050 --> 00:31:33,770 S7: there's always a danger of somebody receiving the Christian instead 571 00:31:33,770 --> 00:31:37,450 S7: of the Christ. If you cross genders and you, you 572 00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:40,290 S7: got love and romance. I praise the Lord for those 573 00:31:40,290 --> 00:31:44,450 S7: cases where it does work out, but it's nine out 574 00:31:44,490 --> 00:31:46,770 S7: of ten cases. If there's a profession of faith, I 575 00:31:46,770 --> 00:31:50,890 S7: really can't trust it. So, um, that's my story. 576 00:31:50,930 --> 00:31:54,090 S1: Thank you Mike. You know, I think any, any wise, 577 00:31:54,370 --> 00:31:57,370 S1: mature Christian, whether it's a pastor or a leader is 578 00:31:57,370 --> 00:32:01,450 S1: going to tell a young person, missionary dating is not 579 00:32:01,450 --> 00:32:04,650 S1: the way to go. And the word of God certainly 580 00:32:04,650 --> 00:32:07,930 S1: is pretty clear there. I'll meet a calling in from 581 00:32:07,930 --> 00:32:11,490 S1: Texas listening to the Moody Radio app this afternoon. Almeida. 582 00:32:11,490 --> 00:32:13,690 S1: Tell me, what was that verse and why was it 583 00:32:13,690 --> 00:32:15,530 S1: so impactful on that day? 584 00:32:16,090 --> 00:32:18,380 S8: Oh my God, thank you. And I just love you. 585 00:32:18,420 --> 00:32:21,820 S8: Mornings too. In the mornings. I love you too. But anyway, 586 00:32:21,820 --> 00:32:24,500 S8: I was just feeling so sorry for myself. I had 587 00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:27,180 S8: had this really, really bad fall out doing. My morning 588 00:32:27,180 --> 00:32:30,300 S8: walk was all bruised up. I could see on out 589 00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:33,860 S8: of one eye, and I had plans to go see 590 00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:37,980 S8: Stevie Wonder that night. And we had, uh, everything was 591 00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:40,340 S8: all planned and I got the worst migraine headache. And 592 00:32:40,340 --> 00:32:43,660 S8: I just, just things just weren't going right. And I 593 00:32:43,660 --> 00:32:47,060 S8: started crying. I was sad, just feeling really bad. Nothing 594 00:32:47,060 --> 00:32:50,420 S8: was working out. And later on when I, my, my 595 00:32:50,420 --> 00:32:53,020 S8: little granddaughter knocked on the door and she said, grandma, 596 00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:56,260 S8: what's the matter? She said, are you crying? I said, 597 00:32:56,980 --> 00:33:00,060 S8: I know baby. She said, read your Bible. You didn't 598 00:33:00,060 --> 00:33:03,580 S8: read your Bible. So she brought me my Bible. And 599 00:33:03,980 --> 00:33:08,340 S8: for some reason Isaiah 43 and 19, uh, begin in 600 00:33:08,340 --> 00:33:11,420 S8: verse 18 rather was the next verse for me to read. 601 00:33:11,420 --> 00:33:15,150 S8: Do not remember the former things, nor consider the the 602 00:33:15,150 --> 00:33:18,190 S8: things of old. Behold, I will do a new thing. 603 00:33:18,670 --> 00:33:20,870 S8: And that thing just kind of stirred me, even though 604 00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:24,190 S8: I was pain in pain and just miserable. I started like, 605 00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:25,990 S8: thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus. 606 00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:30,190 S1: And I hope your granddaughter got to see that. That 607 00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:31,790 S1: sorrow turned to joy. 608 00:33:32,590 --> 00:33:35,550 S8: Oh yes, she read. He was just hugging me. And 609 00:33:35,550 --> 00:33:37,830 S8: I'm like, oh God, I felt really bad. 610 00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:42,310 S1: Anita from Texas. Love your spirit. Thank you so much 611 00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:48,830 S1: for calling in today to Chris Fabry live our number (877) 548-3675. 612 00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:51,750 S1: If you have one of those verses, it jumped off 613 00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:58,550 S1: the page for you that day (877) 548-3675. Doctor Coakley what 614 00:33:58,550 --> 00:34:00,710 S1: are you hearing as you hear these stories? 615 00:34:01,150 --> 00:34:05,230 S2: Yeah, I love these, uh, these connections with our listeners. Uh, 616 00:34:05,230 --> 00:34:08,230 S2: first of all, I noticed there's a theme for many 617 00:34:08,230 --> 00:34:11,030 S2: of them is that, you know, I think C.S. Lewis, 618 00:34:11,070 --> 00:34:14,000 S2: God shouts to us in our pain when we're in pain. 619 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,640 S2: It seems to be. That's when our ears seem to 620 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,719 S2: be more attuned to what God is speaking to us. 621 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,960 S2: And that's where God's Word can shout to us in 622 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,200 S2: our pain. Uh, but it's also, you know, the sad 623 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,919 S2: flip side of that is that oftentimes when we're things 624 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,960 S2: are going well, we're not really attuned to, to what 625 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,440 S2: God's word is saying. And so, uh, it's, it's tragic 626 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,200 S2: that you have to deal sometimes with the loss of 627 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,640 S2: loved ones and, and those kind of situations. But there 628 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,360 S2: is that benefit that it, that it, in a sense 629 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,640 S2: humbles us and it focuses us to really think about 630 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,799 S2: what is truly important, uh, and what God's word has 631 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,680 S2: to say on it, but also those, the straight line communication. 632 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,319 S2: I love what Mike shared. The idea is sometimes the 633 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,960 S2: Bible is very clear in what it wants us to do, 634 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,879 S2: and I don't think we really struggle with application of those. Uh, 635 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,040 S2: it seems sometimes it's the stories. What do we do 636 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,359 S2: with these, you know, books like Joshua or judges or 637 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,129 S2: even Samuel where we have these, you know, these narratives 638 00:35:15,130 --> 00:35:20,250 S2: where there's no direct application and we often are struggling with, okay, 639 00:35:20,290 --> 00:35:23,569 S2: what should we, what should we apply from these passages? 640 00:35:23,570 --> 00:35:25,529 S2: And this is where, you know, we can get a 641 00:35:25,530 --> 00:35:27,890 S2: little bit closer, I think, to the heartbeat of the 642 00:35:27,890 --> 00:35:31,850 S2: biblical authors, both human and divine. If we are tracking 643 00:35:31,850 --> 00:35:35,570 S2: how they're telling these stories because they're they're telling sermons 644 00:35:35,570 --> 00:35:38,969 S2: through stories, but it's not like, you know, Paul's epistles 645 00:35:38,969 --> 00:35:42,410 S2: where be not unequally yoked. Uh, these are stories where 646 00:35:42,410 --> 00:35:45,089 S2: we have to kind of read between the lines to 647 00:35:45,130 --> 00:35:47,410 S2: kind of see, okay, what is the implications or what 648 00:35:47,410 --> 00:35:51,290 S2: are the consequences of the choices? And the situations that 649 00:35:51,290 --> 00:35:55,169 S2: we see are what's motivating these, these individuals. Uh, and 650 00:35:55,170 --> 00:35:58,210 S2: so this is the stuff that I think, uh, we 651 00:35:58,250 --> 00:36:00,890 S2: need a little bit, perhaps help to kind of sharpen 652 00:36:00,890 --> 00:36:04,850 S2: our reading strategies to kind of read these kind of texts. 653 00:36:05,050 --> 00:36:07,850 S1: So give us another one of these techniques, these 14 654 00:36:07,850 --> 00:36:10,770 S1: fresh Ways to enjoy the Bible. We've talked about those 655 00:36:10,860 --> 00:36:14,980 S1: poetic diamonds and the first impressions, sometimes the first words 656 00:36:14,980 --> 00:36:18,020 S1: that someone in Scripture will utter, or the first words 657 00:36:18,020 --> 00:36:21,100 S1: that are written about them, that we can get to 658 00:36:21,140 --> 00:36:23,340 S1: know them well, give us another technique. 659 00:36:24,060 --> 00:36:26,899 S2: Well, one of the ones that again, has always been 660 00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:29,939 S2: intriguing to me is what I call object lessons. And 661 00:36:29,940 --> 00:36:33,460 S2: that is these are sometimes we call them props when 662 00:36:33,460 --> 00:36:36,259 S2: we see them in movies where it's Star Wars, where 663 00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:40,060 S2: you see the Jedi, you know, saber lightsaber, uh, or 664 00:36:40,260 --> 00:36:43,020 S2: you see the ring in Lord of the rings, uh, 665 00:36:43,020 --> 00:36:46,819 S2: or the bullwhip and the fedora with Indiana Jones. There 666 00:36:46,820 --> 00:36:50,060 S2: seems to be an iconic, you know, kind of object 667 00:36:50,060 --> 00:36:54,380 S2: that's kind of characterizes or associated with these, the people 668 00:36:54,380 --> 00:36:56,939 S2: that we read about. Well, in the Bible, we have 669 00:36:56,940 --> 00:37:00,339 S2: somewhat similar things. So we have an Abraham. Uh, we 670 00:37:00,340 --> 00:37:04,299 S2: encounter Abraham encountering trees all the time. Uh, it's like, 671 00:37:04,340 --> 00:37:07,420 S2: you know, there's a tamarisk tree, there's the oak trees, 672 00:37:07,420 --> 00:37:10,439 S2: there's the, you know, other sorts of things that are 673 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,359 S2: doing around trees. And it's like, why is he always 674 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:18,600 S2: around trees and Isaac with Wells and Joseph with clothes 675 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,759 S2: and Jacob with rocks. So every one of the patriarchs 676 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,080 S2: in the book of Genesis seems to have a prop 677 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,440 S2: kind of similar to, you know, the fedora and the 678 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,359 S2: bullwhip of Indiana Jones that we constantly see whenever we're 679 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,560 S2: reading the pages about these characters. And all of a 680 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,960 S2: sudden it dawned on me that those are not just 681 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,880 S2: niceties or little things, but they also kind of really 682 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,640 S2: communicate notions where Abraham and trees, where he's the, you know, 683 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,040 S2: his father Abraham, had many sons. So he's kind of 684 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,160 S2: like the family tree. The roots go down, or Isaac 685 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,160 S2: is a son of promise. Everything with the land flourishes. 686 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,719 S2: He plants seeds and he gets a hundred fold increase. 687 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,680 S2: He digs a hole in the ground and out comes water. Uh, 688 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,000 S2: and so that's really then, you know, in a sense 689 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,359 S2: portrays his, his promised nature. And then Jacob, he does 690 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,850 S2: things the hard way. And so everything he does, he's 691 00:38:09,850 --> 00:38:13,689 S2: lifting stones, he's sleeping on stones. He's you know, he 692 00:38:13,730 --> 00:38:15,570 S2: says at the end of his life, I love this 693 00:38:15,570 --> 00:38:17,810 S2: this line when he speaks to Pharaoh, he says, the 694 00:38:17,810 --> 00:38:20,530 S2: years of my life have been long and hard. And 695 00:38:20,530 --> 00:38:22,890 S2: so you can't get much harder than a rock. And 696 00:38:22,890 --> 00:38:27,010 S2: everything that Jacob does is around rocks. And then Joseph, 697 00:38:27,010 --> 00:38:30,210 S2: we all get enamored with his, you know, multicolored coat 698 00:38:30,210 --> 00:38:33,529 S2: or long sleeve tunic, whatever it is. But we see 699 00:38:33,570 --> 00:38:37,490 S2: Joseph changing clothes constantly. And so just like he changes 700 00:38:37,489 --> 00:38:40,770 S2: his roles, he's changing clothes and those clothes let us 701 00:38:40,770 --> 00:38:44,050 S2: know as readers that he's constantly changing, you know, kind 702 00:38:44,050 --> 00:38:47,730 S2: of the, the in this transitions from being a, you know, 703 00:38:47,930 --> 00:38:51,930 S2: a son that's, uh, esteemed by the father to somebody 704 00:38:51,930 --> 00:38:55,370 S2: who's now working for somebody thrown into jail, then second 705 00:38:55,370 --> 00:38:58,129 S2: in command. And every time he changes a role, he 706 00:38:58,130 --> 00:39:01,210 S2: changes clothes. And so those clothes are kind of fitting 707 00:39:01,250 --> 00:39:04,690 S2: to go along with somebody who undergoes lots of transitions. 708 00:39:04,690 --> 00:39:07,620 S2: But we have, you know, water with Moses. Or we 709 00:39:07,620 --> 00:39:11,180 S2: have swords with David. Uh, and so these, these objects 710 00:39:11,219 --> 00:39:14,540 S2: kind of are there in the periphery, but they're still 711 00:39:14,540 --> 00:39:18,060 S2: nevertheless communicating something about the character. And that's what I 712 00:39:18,060 --> 00:39:21,899 S2: love about the Bible. Now, it's not just a historical book, 713 00:39:21,900 --> 00:39:25,140 S2: which it is, but it's also a beautifully crafted book. 714 00:39:25,180 --> 00:39:27,860 S2: It's some of the best literature that's ever been written, 715 00:39:27,860 --> 00:39:30,220 S2: and it uses a lot of the techniques that good 716 00:39:30,219 --> 00:39:31,700 S2: authors use even today. 717 00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:36,180 S1: Doctor Jim Coakley, our featured resource today, 14 Fresh Ways 718 00:39:36,180 --> 00:39:39,580 S1: to Enjoy the Bible. I hope you're enjoying this, this 719 00:39:39,580 --> 00:39:43,260 S1: little nuances in Scripture, things to start looking for those 720 00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:47,900 S1: object lessons really freshen your Bible reading. Take it maybe 721 00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:52,620 S1: from stagnant and stuck in a rut to delightful to 722 00:39:52,660 --> 00:39:55,940 S1: life giving. That's what it's designed to be. 14 Fresh 723 00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:59,500 S1: Ways to Enjoy the Bible. For more on today's featured resource, 724 00:39:59,540 --> 00:40:04,419 S1: go to Chris Fabry live.org. Chris Fabry live.org. Be sure 725 00:40:04,420 --> 00:40:07,470 S1: to answer our question we have out on Facebook as well. 726 00:40:15,630 --> 00:40:17,790 S3: Every day on Chris Fabry Live, we let you lean 727 00:40:17,790 --> 00:40:21,110 S3: over the backyard fence and have an unplugged conversation, friend 728 00:40:21,110 --> 00:40:23,750 S3: to friend. And when you become a back fence partner, 729 00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:26,830 S3: you invite a neighbor to join us with your monthly gift. 730 00:40:26,830 --> 00:40:30,830 S3: You'll receive access to exclusive resources, the personal message from me, 731 00:40:30,830 --> 00:40:33,630 S3: and more. Become a back fence partner today. Call us 732 00:40:33,630 --> 00:40:37,910 S3: at 866953 or go to Chris Fabry live.org. 733 00:40:42,030 --> 00:40:46,110 S1: We are celebrating those moments when the Word of God 734 00:40:46,110 --> 00:40:49,910 S1: jumps off the page for you. The words. It's as 735 00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:53,510 S1: if someone took a highlighter and just said, hey, look here, 736 00:40:53,950 --> 00:40:56,989 S1: this is what you need to read today. And of 737 00:40:56,989 --> 00:41:01,029 S1: course someone did. He did. He wrote them, and he 738 00:41:01,030 --> 00:41:03,029 S1: wanted to make sure that you saw them because it's 739 00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:05,680 S1: what your heart needed. So we're taking your calls on 740 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,360 S1: this question. What was that truth that your heart needed? 741 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,200 S1: What was going on in your life that made it 742 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:15,560 S1: so impactful? Becky calling in this morning, this afternoon from Illinois. Becky, 743 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,600 S1: tell me, what was that verse and what made it 744 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,640 S1: so impactful? 745 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,359 S9: Hi there. Um, I've never done this, but as I'm 746 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,759 S9: listening to you, I thought I need to call. And 747 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,359 S9: so I was just going through Hebrews. I was in 748 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,480 S9: the studying it. And, and at the same time, then 749 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,920 S9: my husband had been diagnosed with Parkinson's about five years before. 750 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,359 S9: And then he turned out he had cancer and he 751 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,080 S9: had to get proton radiation, which is really hard on 752 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,239 S9: a person, especially with Parkinson's. And I was just crying 753 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,560 S9: out to the Lord how you know, I mean, I 754 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,359 S9: think of my husband, how's he going to do it? 755 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,439 S9: But how am I even going to do it? As 756 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,680 S9: I watch him go through these things, it was proton 757 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,240 S9: radiation is harsh. But anyway, I was going through Hebrews 758 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,370 S9: and the morning, the very morning that we were to 759 00:42:04,410 --> 00:42:07,850 S9: go in for the first radiation, I got to Hebrews 760 00:42:07,850 --> 00:42:13,530 S9: 1038 and it's the justified shall live by faith. And 761 00:42:13,530 --> 00:42:15,569 S9: and I and I. At first I read that and thought, oh, 762 00:42:15,610 --> 00:42:17,330 S9: I know that, and that's going to go on. But 763 00:42:17,330 --> 00:42:21,049 S9: then the Lord said, no, stop the justified shall live 764 00:42:21,090 --> 00:42:23,850 S9: by faith. And it. And it's an Old Testament came 765 00:42:23,850 --> 00:42:27,450 S9: from the prophet. I can't remember which one now, but 766 00:42:27,650 --> 00:42:31,090 S9: um anyway, and I noticed it's three times in the 767 00:42:31,090 --> 00:42:33,810 S9: New Testament, so I thought this is something we, I 768 00:42:33,930 --> 00:42:37,530 S9: need to know. And, and I was thinking, you know, 769 00:42:37,969 --> 00:42:40,650 S9: and I thought of the verse, we are justified by faith. 770 00:42:40,650 --> 00:42:43,810 S9: That's at the beginning, you know, and that happened to 771 00:42:43,810 --> 00:42:47,729 S9: me 50 years ago. I was justified in God's eyes 772 00:42:47,730 --> 00:42:51,090 S9: by faith. Then I thought, we walk by faith, not 773 00:42:51,090 --> 00:42:55,090 S9: by sight. And and I just thought, here and now, 774 00:42:55,130 --> 00:42:59,170 S9: I'm to live by faith. And it just lit up like, 775 00:42:59,330 --> 00:43:02,260 S9: like that's how I'm going to get through this. I'm 776 00:43:02,260 --> 00:43:05,060 S9: gonna get through this by faith. I'm going to remember 777 00:43:05,060 --> 00:43:07,980 S9: who he is, who he says I am, and he's 778 00:43:07,980 --> 00:43:09,700 S9: going to get me through. He is going to get 779 00:43:09,700 --> 00:43:12,660 S9: us through. And you know, whatever he's going to be 780 00:43:12,660 --> 00:43:16,259 S9: with us. And, and, you know, then I went on 781 00:43:16,300 --> 00:43:20,500 S9: a tangent on faith studying faith after that. But I 782 00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:25,100 S9: was so blessed going through that radiation and going through 783 00:43:25,780 --> 00:43:29,740 S9: this study of faith and what that means. And I 784 00:43:29,860 --> 00:43:33,660 S9: would encourage your readers to keep a notebook as you're 785 00:43:33,660 --> 00:43:36,180 S9: going through the word and write things down, write your 786 00:43:36,180 --> 00:43:39,339 S9: prayers down. Write what God is speaking to you. It 787 00:43:39,340 --> 00:43:44,299 S9: just makes the word come alive personally for us. And 788 00:43:44,300 --> 00:43:46,940 S9: that's what has helped me over the years. 789 00:43:47,660 --> 00:43:51,460 S1: Becky. Becky from Illinois, thank you so much for your call. 790 00:43:51,460 --> 00:43:54,260 S1: I'm so glad that you called in today, doctor. Jim 791 00:43:54,260 --> 00:43:56,540 S1: Coakley has been with us today. I want to give 792 00:43:56,540 --> 00:43:59,780 S1: you a closing thought. Doctor Coakley, your book, 14 Fresh 793 00:43:59,820 --> 00:44:02,279 S1: Ways to enjoy the Bible has been such an encouragement 794 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,960 S1: to hear of these different techniques that can help bring 795 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,239 S1: to life the Word of God. If it's feeling like 796 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,239 S1: you're been in a rut. Give me your 30s to 797 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,360 S1: close us out here. 798 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,520 S2: Well, I'm going to finish the way you started with 799 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,880 S2: Daniel chapter ten. And so that's one of the techniques 800 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,200 S2: is Wraparounds or Inclusio. I love it. And so it says, 801 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,200 S2: then he said to me, fear not, Daniel, for the 802 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,360 S2: first day you set your heart to understand and humbled 803 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,040 S2: yourself before your God. And so we see him in 804 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,120 S2: chapter one. He set his heart not to defile himself. 805 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,759 S2: He purposed in his heart. Now he set his heart 806 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,239 S2: to understand, and he's humbled before God. So that's the 807 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,279 S2: walk away from the book of Daniel. And so you 808 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,040 S2: see that from the beginning of the book, at the 809 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,759 S2: very end of the book. And that's the verse that 810 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,600 S2: prompted you, Ali, at the start of the show. Uh, 811 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,359 S2: and so the Bible is just full of these kind 812 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,239 S2: of techniques and just these little labels that we can do. 813 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,799 S2: There's academic behind them, but it's just really fun to 814 00:44:58,969 --> 00:45:01,450 S2: kind of just be aware of the techniques that biblical 815 00:45:01,450 --> 00:45:04,930 S2: authors use to kind of foreground what they're trying to stress. 816 00:45:04,930 --> 00:45:06,730 S2: And that helps us as readers to kind of pick 817 00:45:06,770 --> 00:45:08,090 S2: up what they're laying down. 818 00:45:08,130 --> 00:45:11,569 S1: Doctor Jim Coakley, thank you so much for spending some 819 00:45:11,570 --> 00:45:14,770 S1: time with us this afternoon. 14 Fresh Ways to enjoy 820 00:45:14,770 --> 00:45:19,290 S1: the Bible. It's our featured resource. Go to Chris Fabry live.org. 821 00:45:19,330 --> 00:45:22,529 S1: We'll get you linked up there. Chris Fabry, live.org are 822 00:45:23,130 --> 00:45:26,569 S1: so grateful that you've chosen to spend some time at 823 00:45:26,570 --> 00:45:30,770 S1: the backyard fence with us today. And my encouragement to you, 824 00:45:30,770 --> 00:45:33,569 S1: if you are feeling, man, I want the Word of 825 00:45:33,570 --> 00:45:36,490 S1: God to speak to me. That's the cry of your heart. 826 00:45:36,530 --> 00:45:39,250 S1: Maybe it's been a while. Want to encourage you to 827 00:45:39,650 --> 00:45:42,810 S1: open the word. Don't let the condemnation or the guilt 828 00:45:42,810 --> 00:45:45,650 S1: or the feeling of I should have been here sooner. 829 00:45:46,210 --> 00:45:49,649 S1: Get in the word today. Ask God to lead you 830 00:45:49,650 --> 00:45:53,890 S1: by His Spirit. Go to the Psalms. Go to Proverbs. 831 00:45:53,930 --> 00:45:56,129 S1: It's a great place to start if you've been out 832 00:45:56,130 --> 00:46:00,219 S1: of it for a while and then just read until 833 00:46:00,260 --> 00:46:04,140 S1: God speaks something to you directly. Erwin Lutzer said one 834 00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:07,300 S1: time that one thing he does is he reads until 835 00:46:07,300 --> 00:46:10,740 S1: he gets something. Don't close the Word of God. Don't 836 00:46:10,739 --> 00:46:14,420 S1: shut down that app until you've gotten something, some truth 837 00:46:14,420 --> 00:46:17,740 S1: for your heart to hold on to for that next hour. 838 00:46:18,260 --> 00:46:21,860 S1: The hour after that, the Word of God continually speaks. 839 00:46:21,860 --> 00:46:24,460 S1: And we're so grateful for it. And I'm grateful for 840 00:46:24,460 --> 00:46:27,779 S1: you in the time that we've had together today. I 841 00:46:27,780 --> 00:46:30,660 S1: want to make sure you know about the resource. 14 842 00:46:30,660 --> 00:46:33,940 S1: Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible. Doctor Jim Coakley, I 843 00:46:33,940 --> 00:46:38,140 S1: hope you enjoyed hearing from him today. Go to chris.org. 844 00:46:38,460 --> 00:46:43,540 S1: Chris Fabry live.org. Also check us out on Facebook. Chris 845 00:46:43,580 --> 00:46:46,660 S1: Fabry live. There's a question up there for you to 846 00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:49,660 S1: answer so we can continue the conversation here at Chris 847 00:46:49,700 --> 00:46:55,299 S1: Fabry Live, Ministry of Moody Radio and Moody Bible Institute.