WEBVTT - Reviving Marriage with Jesus

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<v S1>Coming to you from the Morning Star Mission sponsored studio.

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<v S1>This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>Scarlet crew morning helping you take your next step with Jesus.

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<v S2>I've thought about marriage from the almost said marriage. You

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<v S2>got to be close there. Uh, I've thought about marriage

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<v S2>from a three perspectives. Okay. Number door number one. Door

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<v S2>number two. Door number three. And it seems that things.

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<v S2>Let me just characterize it this way. Door number one

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<v S2>is you walk in, you open up that door, and

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<v S2>you look inside and you see a couple who's just

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<v S2>thriving in marriage. And I mean, they're the dear couple

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<v S2>that they've weathered storms and they're making it and they've

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<v S2>learned how to. Oh, the the man especially has learned

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<v S2>how to love his bride as Christ loved the church.

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<v S2>And and the woman in like manner just Loves, listens,

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<v S2>cares for. Affirms. It's just it's a two way deal,

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<v S2>and it's rich, right? Those are sweet. Okay. Door number

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<v S2>three is these marriages that I mean, they're. You open

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<v S2>it up. You look inside and they're ready to. They're

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<v S2>splitting the sheets. Things are just on the skids. But

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<v S2>the biggest swath, as my pastor's vantage point is this

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<v S2>door number two, you open it up and they're going

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<v S2>to church. They love God. They got a couple kids.

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<v S2>They've shared a lot of experiences together, but the fire

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<v S2>is gone out. It's a glorified roommate situation, and they

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<v S2>don't even know it sometimes until you stop, maybe, as

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<v S2>we do right now and go, man, has that fire

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<v S2>gone out? And it's in. It's those marriages that we're

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<v S2>going to focus on today. because building those coals back up,

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<v S2>it's not. Here's the beauty about it. You take a

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<v S2>few simple steps to reclaim lost ground and everything can change. Ali.

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<v S3>You know, even just you saying that, I think a

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<v S3>lot of people would have a lot of skepticism that

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<v S3>a few simple steps. Really? Yeah. For the couple that's

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<v S3>been married for ten, 20, 30 plus years and is

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<v S3>kind of just like, uh, we're we're committed. Neither one

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<v S3>of us are going anywhere. You're saying that the spark

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<v S3>can come back with just a couple simple steps?

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<v S2>Yeah. And I'm going to save the goods for Gary

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<v S2>and Barb, who are going to be with us here

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<v S2>in just a moment. The first step is simple, but

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<v S2>it ain't easy. And that is just straight up repentance.

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<v S2>But God forgive us from where we have fallen, right?

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<v S2>That's hard. But then where we go from there? I mean,

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<v S2>that first little awareness, man. Things are not cooking as

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<v S2>they ought. And we've. We walked down that aisle. We

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<v S2>were so on fire. Our jaws were aching from smiling

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<v S2>at the reception. Remember that alley? Oh, yeah.

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<v S3>Oh, boy.

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<v S2>Holy moly. We we we got away from the wedding

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<v S2>party and scrubbed all the graffiti off of my little

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<v S2>pickup truck, and and we both just rubbed. Our jaws were.

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<v S4>Like, oh, man.

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<v S2>But it's funny what can happen. You get down the

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<v S2>road a piece and it's like, man, five years, ten years,

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<v S2>15 for some of you, 20, 30. And the question is,

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<v S2>can those fires for love be stoked again? And the

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<v S2>answer is they can, they can. Coming up, we've got

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<v S2>some dear friends every time they're here Ali peel paint

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<v S2>time here.

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<v S3>There's a reason why they're called America's Family Coaches. You're

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<v S3>going to hear from the rosbergs coming up.

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<v S1>She was trying to earn her way to God, but

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<v S1>God showed her she didn't have to. Ali is in

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<v S1>the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>He's still pouring out Grace. He's still pouring out love.

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<v S2>He's still pouring power into his kids. This week is.

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<v S2>I guess somebody declared it National Marriage Week. I think

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<v S2>it ought to be national marriage year. We need the

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<v S2>fuel in the belly here.

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<v S3>National marriage year.

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<v S2>National marriage year. Every year it rolls around. Oh, there

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<v S2>we are. We're at another national marriage year.

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<v S5>Sometimes a week won't do, man.

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<v S2>No, you got that right. So I want to focus

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<v S2>on door number two today. And my heart goes out

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<v S2>to any of us who feel like, uh oh, where'd

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<v S2>the love go? I'm talking about that deep, intimate connection

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<v S2>with your spouse. And we know this can happen. Just

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<v S2>look at our relationship with God. This is why the

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<v S2>church is in the book of revelations are told, come

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<v S2>on back. Get back to your first love. You. You've

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<v S2>got it. You've got to knock at the door going on.

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<v S2>Open the door, let them in. And in many ways,

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<v S2>in marriage we can find ourselves behind door number two.

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<v S2>Door number one is everything's rocking. They've been cooking with Jesus.

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<v S2>They've gone through hardship, but they've learned to surrender to

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<v S2>God and then really submit to one another. Door number

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<v S2>three splitting the sheets. And those are tragic. And you

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<v S2>might be there today. But hold on, because these truths

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<v S2>from door number two are going to help you as well.

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<v S2>Gary and Barb Rosberg, how did we get to door

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<v S2>number two? How did we go from rocking love to

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<v S2>kind of glorified roommates?

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<v S6>Well, Carl and Allie, you nailed it in the opening

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<v S6>before the song when you said it starts with small moments.

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<v S6>And Allie, you said, do small movements really work? Doctor

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<v S6>John Gottman says that's exactly what you need to do.

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<v S6>So it's not the trip to Italy, although that's not

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<v S6>a bad idea. It's not, you know, our trip down

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<v S6>south right now in the middle of our Chicago winter.

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<v S6>But it's the small moments. And there are three switches

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<v S6>that need to be flipped for any couple that's wanting

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<v S6>to experience the depth of communication and intimacy. And we're

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<v S6>going to give you the three switches today.

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<v S3>Doctor Gary and Barb Rosberg, our guest this morning. America's

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<v S3>family coaches for decades of equipping marriages across the U.S.

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<v S3>and international. They have written over a dozen prominent marriage

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<v S3>resources in 12 different languages. Their titles are in. Okay,

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<v S3>so you teased us with these three switches. You want

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<v S3>to start there?

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<v S2>Let's get after them.

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<v S7>Absolutely, Ali. Okay. Great to be on. It's great to

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<v S7>be on the program with you both today. Carl and Ali,

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<v S7>be intentional and with that intentionality begin with yourself. And

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<v S7>you did refer to this ahead of time. Carl. Thank you. It's.

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<v S7>It's like what happened to me yesterday. I was in church.

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<v S7>A woman I know, she is my favorite greeter. Her

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<v S7>name is Emily. She came up to me. Honestly, she

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<v S7>looked like a movie star. And I said, you look

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<v S7>great today. She said, Barb, the Lord told me to

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<v S7>quit criticizing my husband. And I did. We've been together

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<v S7>17 years. Married eight. And this is the first time

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<v S7>this morning he said, May I go to church with you?

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<v S7>She introduced me to her husband, John. And honestly, you

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<v S7>think you're impacting your mate by putting criticism? Bottom line

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<v S7>is you glow like a torch in the night. So

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<v S7>whatever you do, flip the switch. Turn into your mate

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<v S7>as God designed them. Delight in them. What do you

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<v S7>have to do to change? Know your spouse. What do

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<v S7>they need encouragement. Maybe they need non-sexual touch. But maybe,

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<v S7>like John from Emily, he needed kind words.

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<v S2>Yeah, it's powerful stuff. So, Barb, I'm going to stick

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<v S2>with you on this one a second here. Um, how

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<v S2>what do you do to the person who says to you,

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<v S2>I don't feel like it because they fill in the

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<v S2>blank of of grievances, pain, heartache, that that initiative. I

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<v S2>know it's fueled by the Holy Spirit. God can do

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<v S2>that in us. Right, Barb?

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<v S7>Oh, totally.

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<v S6>That's number two.

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<v S7>That is number.

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<v S6>Two.

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<v S7>Check your power source. And every time, Carl, we go

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<v S7>to the word of God. Because truthfully, in Ephesians chapter 432,

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<v S7>it says this be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving

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<v S7>one another, just as in Christ he forgave you. So

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<v S7>get along with Christ, and you go there and confess

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<v S7>all the ways that your spouse is driving you crazy.

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<v S7>Confess where you've blown it. Confess where your spouse is

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<v S7>not living up to what you thought they were going

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<v S7>to do, but get along with Christ. He knows it,

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<v S7>but we get the joy of unpacking it and feeling

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<v S7>all that gunk. And honestly, it's junk leaving our hearts.

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<v S7>So instead of a hard heart, we have a tender heart.

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<v S3>So we've got be intentional. Check your power source. What's that?

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<v S3>Third switch.

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<v S6>Check your direction. Check your direction. Look at your compass

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<v S6>and turn it one degree at a time. And I'm

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<v S6>going to get real mechanical because that's what Carl sent

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<v S6>us an email about. That means one date. That doesn't

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<v S6>mean set up every Wednesday night for the next 30 years.

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<v S6>Just do one. It means one note. And I don't

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<v S6>mean a text bag. The text texts are Overrated, but

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<v S6>one note that's handwritten with a pen. It can be cursive.

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<v S6>If you went that far in school, number one is

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<v S6>another thing. Is one phone call in the middle of

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<v S6>the day. Just saying. Baby, baby, baby, I was thinking

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<v S6>about you. I couldn't go another moment without hearing your voice.

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<v S6>Now she's going to call the doctor when you do that.

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<v S6>But do it anyway. The other thing is one time

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<v S6>to sit and listen and share, and you can sit

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<v S6>down in a couple chairs or sit on a bench,

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<v S6>grab an ice cream cone or a hot tea or

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<v S6>whatever you do, and just say, you know what? We're

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<v S6>not very good at this, but we're going to take it.

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<v S6>We're going to take a good run at it. We're

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<v S6>going to sit on one time and just listen, connect

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<v S6>and share. And then two more things, one Kiss and Barbie.

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<v S6>And I recommend six Seconds Ali. So six second Kisses

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<v S6>and National Marriage Week would be a good time to

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<v S6>start it. And then at the core of all of

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<v S6>it is one prayer. Guys, you did it before. You've

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<v S6>done it over a meal. You've done it when you're

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<v S6>scared to death for the doctor's report. You've done it

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<v S6>when you're putting your putting your kids down, you can

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<v S6>do it with your wife. Take your wife's hand and just.

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<v S6>You can close your eyes if you want, but just say,

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<v S6>dear Lord Jesus, thank you for this spouse. Thank you

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<v S6>God that we can experience a do over. Thank you

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<v S6>that you're not done with us. Thank you that there

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<v S6>is hope and that that hope is in you. It's

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<v S6>not in Hollywood. It's not in the Super Bowl. It's

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<v S6>not in what we see on TV or what's going

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<v S6>on at our neighbor's house. It's at what's going on

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<v S6>in the true relationship with the resurrected Jesus Christ.

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<v S2>I love it. Okay, coming up, I want you guys to.

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<v S2>I want you to get go ahead and get vulnerable here.

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<v S2>I want to hear how this worked for you. That's

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<v S2>what I want to do. Gary and Barb Rosberg more

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<v S2>coming up.

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<v S1>Romans eight brought her to Jesus while broadcasting traffic overnight.

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<v S1>Super die is in the crew. It's curl and crew

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<v S1>on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>Do not think you can go it alone. There is

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<v S2>nothing that we excel in in life that doesn't have

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<v S2>a coach, mentor, disciple or whatever word you use, you

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<v S2>need it. And we've got it today. America's family coach

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<v S2>is with us. Gary and Barbie Rosberg, they are tremendous.

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<v S2>Oh they're tremendous. And no matter where you are and

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<v S2>even in Canada, they can help you out today. So

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<v S2>there we go. We got to get that squared away. Uh,

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<v S2>Gary and Barb, let's get vulnerable here. These steps. And

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<v S2>by the way, let's hit those quickly here right before

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<v S2>we tee them up. But we want you to open

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<v S2>up your chest cavity and let's see from your own

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<v S2>life how did this work? But what are those. What

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<v S2>are those switches.

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<v S3>Those three switches. One being intentional to check your power source.

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<v S3>Three check your direction so you can get the showcast

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<v S3>if you want to hear the full breakdown. But go ahead.

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<v S3>Gary and Barb talk about how this has worked in

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<v S3>your own marriage.

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<v S8>You know, years.

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<v S7>Ago I was with a group of women. We were

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<v S7>out to dinner. We were having the best time. And honestly,

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<v S7>we got into a conversation about our husbands and one

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<v S7>woman started bashing her husband. Another one would add seasoning

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<v S7>to it how her husband was worse. And you know,

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<v S7>the whole table just went down. I left that table

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<v S7>instead of being instead of feeling edified and built up.

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<v S7>I'm telling you, Carl, there's power in our words. I

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<v S7>came home, I took a look at my husband, and

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<v S7>I thought, if God's going to use me in my marriage,

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<v S7>I've got no unwholesome word that can afford to come

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<v S7>out of my mouth. And it became a spiritual discipline

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<v S7>with me and God. I chose in that moment that

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<v S7>I would withhold anything that was critical in my dairy,

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<v S7>that I would only build him up and when I

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<v S7>was frustrated, I would try to edit it. Was it perfect?

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<v S7>Heck no. But the goal is to change, to build up,

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<v S7>to edify. I know a lot of people think I

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<v S7>must be very shallow because they'll say thank you for

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<v S7>your encouragement. The reality is, I am changing my world

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<v S7>through the power of my words. Beginning with Gary Rutherford.

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<v S3>Doctor Gary and Barb Rosberg, America's family coaches with us

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<v S3>this morning. You know, I have seen couples who they

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<v S3>have settled in. And, you know, this all sounds nice,

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<v S3>but they're actually quite content in their glorified roommate situation.

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<v S3>And that may sound crazy, but I've seen it. They

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<v S3>have a big enough space that they sort of each

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<v S3>occupy their own part of the house. They connect when

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<v S3>they need to. They give the particulars of the day,

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<v S3>and a lot of times they've been married for many,

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<v S3>many years. How do you sell a vision for more

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<v S3>for the couple. That's like, I am kind of getting

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<v S3>my needs met elsewhere. I've got hobbies, I've got friends,

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<v S3>I've got my church group and I'm okay. And I

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<v S3>think he's okay with where we're at.

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<v S6>You know, you use the word and it's called The

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<v S6>More and what Barbie, Barbie and I are doing is

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<v S6>coaching couples, whether it's, uh, in a coaching experience or

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<v S6>whether it's on radio or writing or podcast or whatever.

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<v S6>And we we give them the vision of the more,

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<v S6>the more is depth and connection and communication. It's the

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<v S6>willingness to take a risk. It's the willingness to do

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<v S6>a 1 in 2 degree turn vector change so that

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<v S6>you invest in your relationship. Because what those couples are doing,

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<v S6>and we've all been in those stages. Barb and I

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<v S6>have been married a long time. You get in those

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<v S6>stages where you drift and get drifting is what leads

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<v S6>us into places we don't want to go. So it

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<v S6>means somebody has got to be willing. And Barbie and

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<v S6>I believe one person can change a marriage. Now ultimately

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<v S6>it's Ultimately it's going to take two, but it never

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<v S6>starts with two. It starts with one. It's one person

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<v S6>who is surrendered, who is examined, who is willing to confess,

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<v S6>they're willing to repent, and they're willing to turn not

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<v S6>towards their spouse. They're willing to turn towards Christ and

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<v S6>the cross in order for the power source, in order

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<v S6>to then turn to their spouse. So what I would

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<v S6>say is they're missing the more what I would say

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<v S6>is life is short. What I would say is, do

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<v S6>you really want to just live as glorified roommates when

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<v S6>there's more right around the corner and you might have

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<v S6>the opportunity to engage it by taking the risk one

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<v S6>degree at a time?

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<v S2>I love this, and I'll tell you why I've benefited

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<v S2>from it. And some of you are listening right now going,

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<v S2>can this coaching work for me and can I get more?

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<v S2>One of the coolest things that Gary and Barb Rosberg

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<v S2>have been doing here as of late is a podcast,

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<v S2>and God is using it a couple of couple of

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<v S2>these episodes are blowing up, and when I say blowing up,

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<v S2>I want everyone to remember this. And that's a positive

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<v S2>term in my nomenclature. But they're but they're blowing up.

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<v S2>And here's what we want to do here with this

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<v S2>morning show. We're helping you take your next step with Jesus.

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<v S2>And sometimes that next step is to do a deeper dive.

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<v S2>You got a taste of what could be the more,

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<v S2>but I want you to get a gulp. I want

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<v S2>you to sit down at streams of living water. Get

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<v S2>coached up around ways to build intimacy in your marriage.

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<v S2>When I said that word, I got chills because I

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<v S2>had a conversation with Brent Bride a couple of days

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<v S2>ago and it was the most cool thing. Ali. I

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<v S2>sat there taking Gary and Barbie's coaching tips that we've

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<v S2>gleaned from them as a couple. Yeah. And, you know,

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<v S2>I walked away from a Station. I didn't say much

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<v S2>of anything in. My bride got up from the couch

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<v S2>and said, I feel so good. And I'm like, what?

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<v S2>What do you mean you feel so good? Said, I

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<v S2>feel so good, bub. Thank you. That was a great talk.

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<v S2>And you know what's funny? Unlike Karl, I was a listener.

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<v S2>But it worked. And I don't know. And some of

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<v S2>you have heartache because you are splitting sheets or you

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<v S2>feel like it's lost. It's not gone. Gary and Barbie

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<v S2>nailed it. One can get this whole ball started. So

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<v S2>I want to thank you, Gary and Barb for being

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<v S2>with us today, but I want to point them to

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<v S2>this greater. Yes. The more. And we've got a link

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<v S2>that I want you to come and grab, because, listen,

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<v S2>no greater work is the work that is done on marriage.

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<v S2>Take it away. Ali, what do we have?

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<v S3>This is a link to their podcast. There's even a

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<v S3>number where you can call in and ask a marriage

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<v S3>question for them to tackle in a future episode. So

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<v S3>this is a very interactive podcast. If you want that

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<v S3>link to this and there are other resources, just text

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<v S3>coach to 850 55, 78, 98. They are America's family coaches.

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<v S3>Your marriage coach. Let's text coach to 855 57898.

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<v S1>Do you feel stuck or paralyzed with victory just out

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<v S1>of reach? Here are your questions answered. It's time for ask,

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<v S1>Pastor Carl.

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<v S2>I'm going to tackle a marriage question. This is a

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<v S2>tough one, but I think I can offer some advice

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<v S2>that may help. My question is, my marriage is going

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<v S2>through a very hard time. Some days it's easier than others.

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<v S2>My wife wants a divorce, and as a man, I

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<v S2>respect her decision. But I disagree with that. I think

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<v S2>that we both can work it out if we both

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<v S2>seek Jesus the way we should. We both are Christians. Okay.

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<v S2>Goes on. We both attend the same church in. My

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<v S2>question is what should I do at this point? How

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<v S2>do we get along when we talk? We are intimate,

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<v S2>but she's not fully committed to our marriage. Still, what

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<v S2>should I do at this point? Okay, I got my

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<v S2>tummy after years of being a pastor, is telling me

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<v S2>a couple of things here. But first off, I would

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<v S2>say getting wise counsel into your life is important. A

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<v S2>lot of times we call that counseling. Right, guys? Yeah.

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<v S5>Counseling, absolutely.

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<v S2>But I've always been a big believer that if principles

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<v S2>that were given here can't be transferred to Bangladesh or

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<v S2>wherever Armenia or wherever in the world, I. I want

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<v S2>to make sure that what we're giving here can be,

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<v S2>can be advice that's given without shelling out money or

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<v S2>resources that some people don't have. I really mean that.

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<v S2>And I think God's provided a way in the body

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<v S2>of Christ. There are going to be wise counselors, people

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<v S2>that have gone through the very ground you've gone through.

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<v S2>And my friend who emailed me here, I need you

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<v S2>to hear me. You are not the first one that

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<v S2>has gone through a situation where it seems this push

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<v S2>pull wife wants out. Uh, we're still experiencing intimacy, and

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<v S2>you need to get a third party involved in this.

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<v S2>And the reason I say wives counselors is not everybody

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<v S2>can afford a counselor.

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<v S3>Right? And a wise counselor doesn't necessarily mean paid counseling,

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<v S3>but a pastor, a mature Christian leader.

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<v S2>Yeah. And this is why I love Deb Gordon, because

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<v S2>she's all about equipping the church to really raise up

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<v S2>wise counselors. And I want us to be that here

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<v S2>boom crew. I crew. I want us to have a

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<v S2>growing tide of people who have gone through tough stuff,

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<v S2>and you might not feel quick manner out here. You

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<v S2>might not feel like an expert, but you are, because

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<v S2>you went through a trial and you came out the

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<v S2>other side and you got a story to tell. You

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<v S2>know what? That makes you?

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<v S5>An expert.

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<v S2>An expert.

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<v S5>That's right.

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<v S2>So get some wise counsel. This is what I want

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<v S2>you to do. I want you to look for someone

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<v S2>in that church who has a great marriage. By every evidence.

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<v S2>They have joy, they have connection, they've got longevity. It

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<v S2>looks like they have communication. They might actually smile at

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<v S2>each other when they talk. Things like that are telltale signs.

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<v S2>There might be someone that you can go talk to.

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<v S2>I would encourage you to go talk to a pastor, too.

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<v S2>Here's why. You need a third party involved in this.

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<v S2>And I got a hunch your wife wants it. And

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<v S2>here's what my tummy's telling you. Telling me about you.

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<v S2>My tummy is telling me that your wife wants to

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<v S2>make this marriage work, but feels possibly isolated and alone

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<v S2>when you speak of intimacy that you're still having. I've

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<v S2>got a hunch that there is a lifeline being thrown saying,

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<v S2>can't we find more? Sometimes we men. And let me

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<v S2>speak to us men here. Sometimes we men miss obvious

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<v S2>signals of a wife crying out, saying, I just want more.

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<v S2>And so first step here would be ask her what

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<v S2>is her greatest need that she has that you feel

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<v S2>like asking her this? I'm not helping meet that need.

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<v S2>There are real needs that men and women have. But

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<v S2>men are initiators. Women are responders, and sometimes men don't

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<v S2>initiate enough. They're taking kind of bellwether things that are

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<v S2>out there. And so this gentleman, bless his heart, I

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<v S2>can I can feel it. He goes, we're going through

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<v S2>a hard time. My wife wants to divorce. And as

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<v S2>a man, I respect her decision. But I disagree with that.

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<v S2>You know what? That's that weird. Okay, I see what's

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<v S2>going on, and we're moving the chess pieces around. What

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<v S2>you need to do is grab her hands, look her

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<v S2>square in the eyes and go. Could I get five

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<v S2>minutes of your time to ask you an honest question?

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<v S2>From my heart? I would. I would be willing to

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<v S2>bet she'd be willing to afford you that opportunity. Look

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<v S2>in her eyes and say, if I could meet one

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<v S2>primary need in you that has gone unmet, what would

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<v S2>it be? If you listen and linger, I think you

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<v S2>might hear it now. There may be a lot more

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<v S2>to it, and there often is, because what gets stored

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<v S2>up are all these little bricks. You know, when you

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<v S2>get in spiritual isolation in a marriage, you know what's

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<v S2>going on. It's usually a big wall that's constructed of

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<v S2>little things that pile up one after another over time.

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<v S2>And pretty quick you go. There's no way that we're

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<v S2>going to get this thing going. But I want to

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<v S2>tell you something. Our God can do it. I've personally

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<v S2>seen it. Seven years into our marriage, my bride and

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<v S2>I and me, by taking initiative, had to take down

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<v S2>brick by brick, a little wall that had grown between us.

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<v S2>On the outside, everything looked great, but inside love was cold.

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<v S2>And you can do this. It requires humility, teachability and

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<v S2>then honest discussion to go, wow, what separated us here?

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<v S2>So my brother, I love your heart. And I love

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<v S2>the courage, don't you, Ali? That someone would step up

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<v S2>like that?

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<v S3>I do. And you know, you mentioned humility. And I

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<v S3>think it does take that step of humility to ask

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<v S3>for help. I mean, even beyond that, sending an email

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<v S3>is awesome, but there's still an anonymity there that I

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<v S3>think sometimes we want to want to protect. So I

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<v S3>think that humility of and courage of actually going to

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<v S3>a person, a mature Christian leader or your pastor. It's

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<v S3>that it's it's scary, but it's so important.

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<v S2>Necessary. You know what Satan hates? He hates when you

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<v S2>take that step across the room to tap someone on

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<v S2>the shoulder and ask for help.

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<v S3>It's hard. He hates everything in us, says I. We

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<v S3>can just fix this by ourselves, right? We don't need

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<v S3>to tell anybody that we're having a hard time.

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<v S2>Yeah. You know, that is my story, too. I think

0:26:06.330 --> 0:26:08.010
<v S2>if we're honest, that's all of our stories.

0:26:08.050 --> 0:26:11.970
<v S3>Absolutely. We'd rather fix it by ourselves than involve anybody else.

0:26:12.010 --> 0:26:14.210
<v S5>Oh, yeah. Seems like a last resort sometimes.

0:26:14.570 --> 0:26:17.250
<v S2>Yeah, it's a big one. You know.

0:26:17.290 --> 0:26:18.490
<v S4>I.

0:26:18.530 --> 0:26:23.730
<v S2>Asked a question earlier, posited a thing to measure in

0:26:23.730 --> 0:26:25.770
<v S2>our life. Remember what that was here, Ali?

0:26:26.090 --> 0:26:28.810
<v S3>Yeah. You asked what? When you look at your own marriage,

0:26:28.930 --> 0:26:32.090
<v S3>what is it that you measure to see how you're doing?

0:26:32.210 --> 0:26:36.130
<v S3>Or what is that warning sign that things are amiss?

0:26:36.130 --> 0:26:39.640
<v S3>Something is off. What is it for your for your marriage?

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:42.840
<v S3>It can be different for every marriage. What is that thing?

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:45.080
<v S3>That warning sign. If you look at a dashboard on

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:47.280
<v S3>the car, you see a light come up and you go,

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.560
<v S3>this needs attention. What is that for your marriage? Just

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:52.520
<v S3>shoot us a text in a sentence if you can.

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:57.840
<v S3>855 five 7898 what is that warning sign that when

0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:00.280
<v S3>it pops up on the dashboard of your marriage, you go,

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:05.560
<v S3>we need to give this some attention. 855 five 7898.

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.520
<v S1>He's a sports fanatic with a stat for anything you

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:12.760
<v S1>can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:14.879
<v S1>Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.800
<v S2>All right, that's a theme song for this week. Lead me,

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:23.000
<v S2>because I can't do this alone. Sanctus real asking you

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:27.200
<v S2>really important question. You got to measure what matters. And

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:30.600
<v S2>if you look around, you'll see, boy, this is an

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:35.680
<v S2>indication that something's amiss in our marriage. What are those

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:39.110
<v S2>things that you identify that you're like, yeah, boy, when

0:27:39.109 --> 0:27:41.790
<v S2>this is going on, there's a problem. This is a

0:27:41.869 --> 0:27:46.109
<v S2>leading indicator that something is wrong. Getting some good feedback here, Ali.

0:27:46.150 --> 0:27:47.949
<v S3>Yeah. This is coming in by text. I won't use

0:27:47.950 --> 0:27:52.910
<v S3>your number. I'll just tell you what's coming in. Generally impatience, bitterness,

0:27:52.950 --> 0:27:57.790
<v S3>poor communication when there's empty emotional intimacy. This is a

0:27:57.790 --> 0:27:59.950
<v S3>very telling one. When I don't tell my husband what's

0:27:59.990 --> 0:28:02.190
<v S3>on my heart, I can tell him what's on my

0:28:02.190 --> 0:28:07.990
<v S3>mind easily. But when I hold back what's on my heart, indifference,

0:28:07.990 --> 0:28:13.150
<v S3>physical touch and then a heart. Heartbreaking account of someone

0:28:13.150 --> 0:28:16.109
<v S3>who recently lost a spouse. But you know, when we

0:28:16.109 --> 0:28:19.350
<v S3>talk about this, I think it raises all kinds of

0:28:19.430 --> 0:28:23.270
<v S3>emotions for people. Because no matter how long you've been married,

0:28:23.310 --> 0:28:28.109
<v S3>there's some area where there's there's some disappointment, like your spouse.

0:28:28.109 --> 0:28:31.470
<v S3>No one spouse has lived up to everything that they

0:28:31.470 --> 0:28:34.470
<v S3>thought that you you thought they would be. And that's

0:28:34.470 --> 0:28:37.140
<v S3>true for every single one of us. We have not

0:28:37.140 --> 0:28:39.820
<v S3>lived up to what the expectation was for us when

0:28:39.820 --> 0:28:40.820
<v S3>we went into this.

0:28:40.980 --> 0:28:43.980
<v S2>Yeah, that's why we had such a tremendous honeymoon. Me

0:28:43.980 --> 0:28:47.620
<v S2>and jobs. Because four days in, we're like, what in

0:28:47.620 --> 0:28:52.940
<v S2>the world have we done? Now, not everyone's like that,

0:28:52.940 --> 0:28:58.780
<v S2>but everybody comes to a passage in time when you go, whoa,

0:28:58.820 --> 0:29:00.020
<v S2>this person's disappointing.

0:29:00.180 --> 0:29:00.940
<v S4>Yeah.

0:29:00.980 --> 0:29:03.620
<v S2>Coming up here, we're going to pour out our heart. Yep.

0:29:03.820 --> 0:29:09.700
<v S2>We're going to tell you what is a indicator that

0:29:10.700 --> 0:29:14.300
<v S2>something needs to change. And we're going to be vulnerable.

0:29:15.180 --> 0:29:15.700
<v S2>Hang on.

0:29:16.180 --> 0:29:19.900
<v S1>He was running from God, but God's love brought him home.

0:29:20.220 --> 0:29:24.060
<v S1>Carl is in the crew. It's Carl and crew on

0:29:24.060 --> 0:29:25.020
<v S1>Moody Radio.

0:29:25.220 --> 0:29:32.020
<v S2>If we're honest, there are indicators that call them idiot

0:29:32.060 --> 0:29:34.940
<v S2>lights on. Some dashboards, some of them. I'm sorry.

0:29:35.220 --> 0:29:37.460
<v S5>I know, I really like that I'm laughing because I

0:29:37.500 --> 0:29:38.380
<v S5>think it's hilarious.

0:29:38.740 --> 0:29:41.260
<v S2>Idiot lights are the funniest things. Because when you get

0:29:41.260 --> 0:29:45.260
<v S2>a flashing red engine light, it means your engine's toast.

0:29:45.260 --> 0:29:48.780
<v S2>You need a new engine. Yes, rather than your oil pressure.

0:29:48.780 --> 0:29:51.260
<v S2>So that's why I like pressure gauges as opposed to

0:29:51.300 --> 0:29:53.500
<v S2>idiot lights. Idiot lights tell you pull to the side

0:29:53.500 --> 0:29:55.700
<v S2>of the road and call I dot.

0:29:55.980 --> 0:29:56.820
<v S5>Yes, immediately.

0:29:56.820 --> 0:29:57.300
<v S2>You're toast.

0:29:57.340 --> 0:29:58.420
<v S3>Prepare to buy a new car.

0:29:58.580 --> 0:30:01.580
<v S2>Yes. Like Ali stranded with a stalled car. She thought

0:30:01.580 --> 0:30:04.300
<v S2>for a moment. We are in trouble. Carload full of

0:30:04.300 --> 0:30:07.820
<v S2>girls and they are like, stuck in the middle of Lake.

0:30:07.820 --> 0:30:09.380
<v S3>Shore Drive in Chicago.

0:30:09.580 --> 0:30:10.980
<v S2>That even gets me nervous.

0:30:10.980 --> 0:30:11.979
<v S5>It's stressful man.

0:30:12.460 --> 0:30:16.340
<v S2>Oh. I'm glad. Oh, I'm glad that thing got going again. Yes,

0:30:16.340 --> 0:30:20.300
<v S2>but there are indicators in marriage that something's wrong. And

0:30:20.300 --> 0:30:23.460
<v S2>one big one for me is just opening my chest

0:30:23.460 --> 0:30:26.540
<v S2>cavity is as simple as taking my wife for granted.

0:30:26.820 --> 0:30:28.260
<v S2>You know what? I got to tell you something. I

0:30:28.260 --> 0:30:30.220
<v S2>don't do a lot of washing and clothes around here.

0:30:30.220 --> 0:30:34.690
<v S2>And when I do, I screw it up. Things shrink.

0:30:35.330 --> 0:30:40.570
<v S2>Things change color. Things get bad. And my wife just

0:30:40.570 --> 0:30:43.410
<v S2>graciously says. And so I'll tell her. Sometimes they want

0:30:43.410 --> 0:30:44.890
<v S2>to help you around here. Babe, can I do a

0:30:44.890 --> 0:30:48.050
<v S2>load of wash? No. That's okay. Um, but I got

0:30:48.050 --> 0:30:49.170
<v S2>some other stuff for you.

0:30:49.290 --> 0:30:50.450
<v S5>That's great.

0:30:51.090 --> 0:30:54.050
<v S2>But the wash is not for me. That woman has

0:30:54.050 --> 0:30:56.890
<v S2>to grab my underwear, grab my clothes, grab my socks,

0:30:57.450 --> 0:31:00.690
<v S2>and do my laundry. And you know what? I need to,

0:31:00.730 --> 0:31:04.490
<v S2>from time to time, remember that and go. Thank you

0:31:04.490 --> 0:31:07.850
<v S2>for doing my dirty laundry.

0:31:08.330 --> 0:31:11.370
<v S5>That's important, I think. I think all of us can

0:31:11.370 --> 0:31:14.250
<v S5>be guilty of taking our spouse for granted and saying,

0:31:14.450 --> 0:31:17.090
<v S5>I don't appreciate the little things that you do around here.

0:31:17.210 --> 0:31:19.730
<v S2>And it's more than that. It's taking for granted in

0:31:19.730 --> 0:31:22.050
<v S2>so many ways. I mean, I'm married to a grandma

0:31:22.050 --> 0:31:24.290
<v S2>right now, guys. I'm married to a grandma.

0:31:24.290 --> 0:31:25.250
<v S5>Congratulations.

0:31:25.410 --> 0:31:26.650
<v S9>One week to a grandma.

0:31:27.610 --> 0:31:30.690
<v S2>Boy, she's a good looking grandma, but I'm married to

0:31:30.690 --> 0:31:33.800
<v S2>a grandma. And last night we were watching the Super

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:37.240
<v S2>Bowl with our kids and our granddaughter, and she was

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:41.040
<v S2>a Philadelphia fan, I could tell it. And and my

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:44.760
<v S2>bride is doing such a good job with this little girl.

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:52.400
<v S2>And I'm like, man, what a good grandma. What do

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:53.360
<v S2>you say, young Thunder?

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:56.920
<v S5>You know, I say for me that I can tell

0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:01.680
<v S5>that God's trying to get my attention in the busyness

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:06.880
<v S5>of life that, you know, I Monday through Friday, work

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:09.520
<v S5>is hard. I get up early. I come home and

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:11.760
<v S5>I'm tired, and I, you know, I don't I want

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:13.360
<v S5>to do a lot of things for myself because, hey,

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.960
<v S5>that's my recoup time, I need that. But then Monday

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.280
<v S5>through Friday is gone and got Saturday, Sunday doing stuff

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.800
<v S5>with the kiddo. And and then I go, oh, it's

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:23.080
<v S5>Monday again, you know. So you got to be careful

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.760
<v S5>about that. God wants you to spend time with your spouse.

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:27.560
<v S10>Good word.

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:29.840
<v S3>I think for me, when I think about my marriage,

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.350
<v S3>I've been married now almost 19 years.

0:32:32.510 --> 0:32:33.150
<v S10>Yeah.

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<v S3>And it's the times when we forget to connect. When

0:32:38.270 --> 0:32:41.310
<v S3>he comes in the door and I continue on what

0:32:41.310 --> 0:32:44.470
<v S3>I'm doing in the kitchen, and don't go over and

0:32:44.470 --> 0:32:46.350
<v S3>give him a hug and a kiss and ask him

0:32:46.350 --> 0:32:48.510
<v S3>how his day is. Or we're sitting on the couch

0:32:48.550 --> 0:32:51.350
<v S3>and we're both on opposite sides instead of next to

0:32:51.390 --> 0:32:53.070
<v S3>each other. We don't have to. You don't have to

0:32:53.110 --> 0:32:55.190
<v S3>sit on top of your spouse all day like you're

0:32:55.190 --> 0:32:58.030
<v S3>just attached at the hip. But when it's like you're

0:32:58.030 --> 0:33:01.030
<v S3>in the same space, but there's not that physical connection

0:33:01.150 --> 0:33:03.430
<v S3>that touch on the shoulder, that, hey, let me snuggle

0:33:03.430 --> 0:33:05.470
<v S3>up next to you on the couch when that's missing.

0:33:05.830 --> 0:33:07.910
<v S3>It's like, okay, we got to reconnect.

0:33:08.350 --> 0:33:10.910
<v S2>And that's that's a pretty simple course correction, isn't it?

0:33:10.950 --> 0:33:13.790
<v S10>Yes it is. Let's move over a little bit.

0:33:13.830 --> 0:33:17.030
<v S2>Yeah. Just move six inches. Move over a foot from

0:33:17.030 --> 0:33:19.990
<v S2>the chair to the couch. Put the phone down. Good stuff.

0:33:21.590 --> 0:33:24.230
<v S2>Good stuff. What is it for you? Let's go do it.

0:33:24.750 --> 0:33:27.830
<v S1>Do you feel stuck or paralyzed with victory? Just out

0:33:27.830 --> 0:33:31.910
<v S1>of reach? Here are your questions answered. It's time for

0:33:31.990 --> 0:33:33.310
<v S1>ask Pastor Carl.

0:33:34.230 --> 0:33:35.990
<v S2>All right. In just a little bit, Ali's going to

0:33:35.990 --> 0:33:37.350
<v S2>give you a link so that you can get your

0:33:37.350 --> 0:33:39.750
<v S2>questions in to me here. I do have a slew

0:33:39.750 --> 0:33:41.870
<v S2>of them. So at the bottom of each hour I'm

0:33:41.870 --> 0:33:46.630
<v S2>going to tackle at least one, maybe more. But this one,

0:33:46.630 --> 0:33:51.270
<v S2>when I when I got it, I'm like, oh, there

0:33:51.270 --> 0:33:54.469
<v S2>is a lie roaming around in some how do I

0:33:54.510 --> 0:33:58.670
<v S2>say this? Some theological circles that is missing the broad

0:33:58.670 --> 0:34:02.510
<v S2>side of the barn and that is that going straight

0:34:02.510 --> 0:34:05.790
<v S2>to God is not possible, that you need the help

0:34:05.990 --> 0:34:09.350
<v S2>of a man. Now, before I even get to the question,

0:34:09.350 --> 0:34:13.150
<v S2>let me say this. We benefit greatly by having brothers

0:34:13.150 --> 0:34:18.310
<v S2>and sisters coming around us. No question. But make no

0:34:18.310 --> 0:34:23.470
<v S2>mistake about it, every person listening to me right now

0:34:23.590 --> 0:34:30.299
<v S2>can go straight to God. Straight to God. You guys

0:34:30.300 --> 0:34:31.740
<v S2>guess what the question might be?

0:34:35.060 --> 0:34:38.219
<v S3>Mm. I mean, yes, based on that setup.

0:34:39.340 --> 0:34:40.980
<v S2>It's salvific in nature.

0:34:41.140 --> 0:34:41.739
<v S10>Oh.

0:34:42.580 --> 0:34:43.100
<v S2>Yeah.

0:34:43.140 --> 0:34:43.500
<v S3>Okay.

0:34:43.700 --> 0:34:44.339
<v S10>Give it to us.

0:34:45.460 --> 0:34:49.180
<v S2>I'm sure they are asking this for themselves. Greetings, Pastor Carl.

0:34:49.300 --> 0:34:53.020
<v S2>If someone prays the sinner's prayer, kneeling alone in front

0:34:53.020 --> 0:34:57.660
<v S2>of his bed and accepts Jesus Christ as Savior, does

0:34:57.660 --> 0:35:01.140
<v S2>he need someone to pray for him for his salvation

0:35:01.140 --> 0:35:05.299
<v S2>to be valid and complete? I need your insight, please.

0:35:05.380 --> 0:35:11.700
<v S2>And the answer is no. How do I know this?

0:35:14.380 --> 0:35:18.500
<v S2>I want you to know that in First Timothy, we

0:35:18.540 --> 0:35:25.540
<v S2>find Paul coaching his young protege, Timothy, and he's laying

0:35:25.540 --> 0:35:29.970
<v S2>down some unbelievable theology. But But we got to get

0:35:29.969 --> 0:35:31.969
<v S2>a stake in the ground on this one. Let me

0:35:31.969 --> 0:35:35.210
<v S2>back up and read this second Timothy, first Timothy chapter two.

0:35:35.250 --> 0:35:40.250
<v S2>Listen to this. First of all. Then I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions,

0:35:40.250 --> 0:35:43.490
<v S2>and thanksgivings may be made for all people, for kings

0:35:43.489 --> 0:35:46.170
<v S2>and all who are in high places, and that we

0:35:46.170 --> 0:35:50.330
<v S2>may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified

0:35:50.330 --> 0:35:52.770
<v S2>in every way. This is good, and it's pleasing in

0:35:52.770 --> 0:35:55.570
<v S2>the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people

0:35:55.570 --> 0:35:57.970
<v S2>to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth.

0:35:58.210 --> 0:36:02.529
<v S2>For there is one God. And there is one mediator

0:36:02.930 --> 0:36:08.689
<v S2>between God and man, the man Christ Jesus, who gave

0:36:08.690 --> 0:36:12.650
<v S2>himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony

0:36:12.650 --> 0:36:17.370
<v S2>given at the proper time. He goes on to say,

0:36:17.370 --> 0:36:20.330
<v S2>I've been appointed a preacher and an apostle. Toward this end.

0:36:20.330 --> 0:36:24.609
<v S2>But this this may seem simple to some of you,

0:36:24.610 --> 0:36:28.009
<v S2>but there's many listening this morning who come from a

0:36:28.010 --> 0:36:32.040
<v S2>from a faith background where you needed to go to

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:35.719
<v S2>man to get to God. And I'm here today to

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:42.919
<v S2>tell you that is not true. There is one mediator

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:47.239
<v S2>between God and man. His name is Jesus. And I

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:51.320
<v S2>think I want to think about a solution for this.

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:56.239
<v S2>And I think sometimes we see the biblical narrative and

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:59.920
<v S2>we see Jesus in motion, and we don't take those

0:36:59.920 --> 0:37:01.560
<v S2>stories at their word.

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:03.000
<v S3>What do you mean?

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:08.919
<v S2>When when Jesus says to the disciples, come and follow me.

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.239
<v S2>When we see him sitting down at a well with

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:14.279
<v S2>a woman who had been married five times and currently

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:19.280
<v S2>shacked up, and he offers her eternal life and uses

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:22.399
<v S2>that metaphor of that water well as a as an

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:26.560
<v S2>illustration of that springing up to eternal life. When we

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:32.680
<v S2>see him healing paralytics those born blind when we see

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:37.520
<v S2>him calling tax collectors and sinners to have dinner with them.

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:42.920
<v S2>That Jesus who lived then is alive today, and he's

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:47.200
<v S2>still having breakfast, lunch, and dinner for anyone who calls

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:50.319
<v S2>on his name. Isn't that hopeful?

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.920
<v S5>It's the most hopeful thing of all time, because it's

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:56.320
<v S5>not about us. It's about his love for us.

0:37:56.480 --> 0:38:00.279
<v S2>And it's not about us going to a man or

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:04.560
<v S2>a woman who can help us gain access to Jesus.

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:05.200
<v S5>Amen.

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:09.160
<v S2>The veil has been torn, man. See, the amazing thing

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:14.040
<v S2>about the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ is

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.839
<v S2>that the veil into the Holy of Holies, into the

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:22.120
<v S2>presence of God, was secured through the blood of Jesus Christ.

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:27.069
<v S2>And so, in just practical terms, if you want to

0:38:27.710 --> 0:38:32.790
<v S2>camp out anywhere, understanding that, you can go straight to Jesus.

0:38:33.230 --> 0:38:36.589
<v S2>Appealing for salvation and you don't need anyone. Quote to

0:38:36.630 --> 0:38:39.390
<v S2>pray for you to make sure that your salvation is

0:38:39.390 --> 0:38:42.950
<v S2>valid and complete. I want you to go to First

0:38:42.950 --> 0:38:47.390
<v S2>Timothy chapter two, verse five. For there is one God,

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<v S2>and there is one mediator between God and men, the

0:38:50.550 --> 0:38:54.629
<v S2>man Christ Jesus. And I know for some of you listening,

0:38:54.630 --> 0:39:01.069
<v S2>you go, wow, I would have never imagined that that

0:39:01.070 --> 0:39:03.629
<v S2>might be a question, but it is because the God

0:39:03.670 --> 0:39:06.950
<v S2>of this age has actually twisted the truth and made

0:39:06.950 --> 0:39:09.469
<v S2>us think in some faith traditions that we need to

0:39:09.469 --> 0:39:12.230
<v S2>go to a person. And here's the power of the

0:39:12.270 --> 0:39:16.710
<v S2>gospel is that the person came to us. His name

0:39:16.710 --> 0:39:22.469
<v S2>is Jesus. Yes, his name is Jesus. And the beautiful

0:39:22.469 --> 0:39:27.379
<v S2>thing about the incarnation is that, unlike the Old Testament,

0:39:27.500 --> 0:39:30.500
<v S2>where we had to go to a priest who would

0:39:30.500 --> 0:39:34.259
<v S2>walk us into the Holy of Holies or take our

0:39:34.260 --> 0:39:38.780
<v S2>requests before God, we now have them in the person

0:39:38.780 --> 0:39:43.220
<v S2>of Jesus Christ. He loves you and he cares for you,

0:39:43.219 --> 0:39:45.660
<v S2>and you can go to him today. As a matter

0:39:45.660 --> 0:39:48.580
<v S2>of fact, I feel prompted. Some of you have thought

0:39:48.580 --> 0:39:50.660
<v S2>you've got to get cleaned up, or you've got to

0:39:50.660 --> 0:39:54.219
<v S2>go to a man or you've got to go, um,

0:39:54.260 --> 0:39:58.979
<v S2>confess to a person who maybe somehow will get me

0:39:58.980 --> 0:40:02.580
<v S2>straight with God. I'm here to tell you today, God

0:40:02.580 --> 0:40:06.860
<v S2>so loved the world that whoever believes in him will

0:40:06.860 --> 0:40:11.779
<v S2>not perish but have everlasting life. I don't care if

0:40:11.780 --> 0:40:14.700
<v S2>it's a sinner's prayer. I don't care if it's driving

0:40:14.700 --> 0:40:18.420
<v S2>down the road. If your heart is broken before God

0:40:18.420 --> 0:40:22.580
<v S2>and surrendered before him. If you recognize in this moment

0:40:22.580 --> 0:40:27.370
<v S2>I'm a sinner who needs a savior. I am a

0:40:27.450 --> 0:40:31.290
<v S2>sinner who needs a Savior. His name is Jesus. You

0:40:31.290 --> 0:40:36.130
<v S2>can go straight to him today and say, Jesus, forgive

0:40:36.130 --> 0:40:41.330
<v S2>me for my sins. Thanks for dying for me. I

0:40:41.370 --> 0:40:44.850
<v S2>bow my heart before you. Yeah, it's not even about

0:40:44.850 --> 0:40:47.330
<v S2>bowing your head. It's not getting the posture, your body

0:40:47.330 --> 0:40:50.050
<v S2>just right. It's not even kneeling on the floor. It's

0:40:50.050 --> 0:40:55.490
<v S2>a heart that's kneeling low before God. We are justified

0:40:55.489 --> 0:41:00.689
<v S2>and made right with God by faith alone. No one

0:41:00.690 --> 0:41:04.210
<v S2>needed to be there but you and God. And then

0:41:04.210 --> 0:41:07.250
<v S2>you get up off that floor. You lift up your

0:41:07.250 --> 0:41:11.210
<v S2>chin and you go tell people what Jesus has done

0:41:11.489 --> 0:41:18.689
<v S2>for you. Is that you today, my friend? You need salvation.

0:41:18.690 --> 0:41:20.890
<v S2>So let me ask you, do you believe that Jesus

0:41:20.890 --> 0:41:25.130
<v S2>died for you? Good. Do you believe you needed that?

0:41:25.130 --> 0:41:30.129
<v S2>Because you can't do it. Good. Do you believe he

0:41:30.130 --> 0:41:35.930
<v S2>rose again and is alive today? Because you feel and

0:41:35.930 --> 0:41:40.730
<v S2>you are experiencing not only the conviction of sin, but

0:41:40.730 --> 0:41:48.770
<v S2>the comfort of coming to him. That's God's work. And

0:41:48.770 --> 0:41:53.930
<v S2>right now, today, if it's been an epiphany, I can

0:41:53.930 --> 0:41:57.890
<v S2>surrender to Jesus without the help of a of another man.

0:41:59.730 --> 0:42:01.770
<v S2>We want to help you in your new walk of

0:42:01.770 --> 0:42:05.170
<v S2>faith right now. If today is your day of salvation,

0:42:06.050 --> 0:42:09.569
<v S2>one mediator, Jesus Christ Himself, and you've gone straight to him,

0:42:09.570 --> 0:42:12.930
<v S2>confessing your sin and the need for the Messiah, the

0:42:12.969 --> 0:42:15.930
<v S2>Savior of the world, to save your life. We want

0:42:15.930 --> 0:42:19.210
<v S2>to help you right now. Pastor Carl, what if the

0:42:19.210 --> 0:42:25.400
<v S2>temptation comes from within me? kind of scared of asking

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:28.239
<v S2>you this, but what have you yourself is the one

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:32.960
<v S2>who is doing the tempting first. You're spot on, James,

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:38.560
<v S2>the half brother. Jesus said, temptation born of lust gives

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:42.120
<v S2>birth to sin. So there's a couple different kinds of temptations.

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:45.120
<v S2>There's the temptation that comes from outward things, and there's

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:50.480
<v S2>things that come from inward flesh. That's ourselves. And unchecked

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:52.520
<v S2>we can get in trouble with that. He goes on,

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:58.160
<v S2>I am a Christ follower. I'm born again. But then

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:00.560
<v S2>he goes on and it's a little bit graphic here,

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.479
<v S2>so I'm not going to get into a little ear warning.

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.040
<v S2>I'll just say. He goes on to describe what trips

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:07.600
<v S2>him up with regard to his eyes, and it deals

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:13.439
<v S2>with women and sexuality and all that stuff. That is

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:18.319
<v S2>very real. First, let me say this. When you find

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:24.310
<v S2>yourself gripped by sin, missing the mark. That's no longer temptation.

0:43:24.310 --> 0:43:26.989
<v S2>You've taken the bait and that needs to be repented of,

0:43:27.110 --> 0:43:30.550
<v S2>brought into the light, and then you deal a swift

0:43:30.550 --> 0:43:33.190
<v S2>blow to it. That is critical. And I'm going to

0:43:33.190 --> 0:43:34.830
<v S2>give you a link here in a moment, because some

0:43:34.830 --> 0:43:37.029
<v S2>of you are struggling with who knows what. And you're like,

0:43:37.030 --> 0:43:38.670
<v S2>how in the world am I going to get victory

0:43:38.670 --> 0:43:40.710
<v S2>over this? But I haven't even alluded to this on

0:43:40.710 --> 0:43:45.830
<v S2>this show yet. But there's something very solidly biblical about

0:43:45.830 --> 0:43:51.029
<v S2>building boundaries. I'm talking moral boundaries. I'm talking relational boundaries,

0:43:51.150 --> 0:43:57.590
<v S2>and I'm talking spiritual boundaries. And what boundaries do are

0:43:57.630 --> 0:44:02.870
<v S2>it stops feeding something that keeps coming back. And there's ways,

0:44:02.870 --> 0:44:05.669
<v S2>my brother, that you can deal with this temptation even

0:44:05.670 --> 0:44:10.549
<v S2>within yourself by building boundaries around your life. I've got

0:44:10.630 --> 0:44:14.670
<v S2>birdfeeders at home, front yard, back yard. When I put

0:44:14.670 --> 0:44:17.830
<v S2>sunflower seeds in those feeders. Guess what? These birds keep

0:44:17.830 --> 0:44:23.180
<v S2>coming back. When I stop feeding these birds, they go away.

0:44:24.700 --> 0:44:28.779
<v S2>You got to starve, sin. You got to quit feeding it.

0:44:28.780 --> 0:44:31.020
<v S2>And you got to get yourself in a position where

0:44:31.020 --> 0:44:36.620
<v S2>you're not feeding sin. I don't care what issue this is.

0:44:36.660 --> 0:44:38.940
<v S2>Let me give you a few to cogitate on here.

0:44:38.940 --> 0:44:42.220
<v S2>Boom crew for all of you. If you make purchases impulsively,

0:44:42.219 --> 0:44:47.740
<v S2>devise creative ways to make them more challenging. Don't carry

0:44:47.780 --> 0:44:51.500
<v S2>credit card. So one person I know has a trusted

0:44:51.500 --> 0:44:55.020
<v S2>friend look at their spending ledgers for a few months. Breaks.

0:44:55.020 --> 0:44:58.940
<v S2>That puts boundaries there. If you're trying to curb your appetite,

0:44:58.980 --> 0:45:01.540
<v S2>get healthy or lose weight. Avoid having foods in your

0:45:01.540 --> 0:45:05.100
<v S2>kitchen that are going to tempt you to overindulge. Just

0:45:05.100 --> 0:45:11.860
<v S2>don't even make these less accessible. Starve it out. If wine, beer,

0:45:11.900 --> 0:45:14.779
<v S2>hard liquor, drugs are owning you, get them out of

0:45:14.780 --> 0:45:19.900
<v S2>easy reach. Distance yourself from company. Yeah. People that cause

0:45:19.900 --> 0:45:23.100
<v S2>you cause you to stumble and get trusted friends to

0:45:23.140 --> 0:45:26.779
<v S2>pray for you and support you. If social media or

0:45:26.900 --> 0:45:31.900
<v S2>TV are devouring your time, limit your electronics. Get passcodes

0:45:31.900 --> 0:45:36.140
<v S2>to a spouse or friend. A device doesn't only give

0:45:36.140 --> 0:45:40.500
<v S2>you access to the world. It gives the world access

0:45:40.500 --> 0:45:42.660
<v S2>to you. And some of you know that full well.

0:45:43.620 --> 0:45:49.500
<v S2>So here's here's what I'd say. Temptation is common to man,

0:45:50.580 --> 0:45:55.460
<v S2>but God has provided a way of escape. And we

0:45:55.460 --> 0:45:58.820
<v S2>know that Jesus was tempted in every way and without sin.

0:46:01.100 --> 0:46:05.100
<v S2>But it is a wise thing to put moral, spiritual,

0:46:05.100 --> 0:46:09.420
<v S2>relational boundaries up in your life. Some of you find

0:46:09.420 --> 0:46:13.580
<v S2>yourself on this sin shame, repent, repeat. Cycle. Like my

0:46:13.580 --> 0:46:19.060
<v S2>brother who emailed me here because you've not put up boundaries.

0:46:19.570 --> 0:46:22.570
<v S2>Some of us think, well, we're just at the mercy

0:46:22.570 --> 0:46:24.969
<v S2>of what's going to come our way. No. Construct your

0:46:24.969 --> 0:46:27.330
<v S2>life in a way I don't care what you're up against.

0:46:27.370 --> 0:46:30.529
<v S2>Even if it's gossiping in the lobby after church. God

0:46:30.530 --> 0:46:33.290
<v S2>bless you. The Spirit of God convicts you that go

0:46:33.290 --> 0:46:36.210
<v S2>to your friends and tell them I am so convicted.

0:46:36.290 --> 0:46:38.969
<v S2>I've been gossiping. Would you help me with this? I

0:46:38.969 --> 0:46:42.609
<v S2>know it takes courage, but this is what courageous disciples

0:46:42.610 --> 0:46:46.890
<v S2>do who bear fruit. And you want that. So this

0:46:46.890 --> 0:46:51.770
<v S2>whole issue of boundaries and killing sin. I'm going to

0:46:51.770 --> 0:46:54.170
<v S2>be bold here and tell you there's a place you

0:46:54.170 --> 0:46:56.930
<v S2>can go to get some help. It's been out for

0:46:56.930 --> 0:47:00.009
<v S2>weeks now, and if you haven't heard this yet, or

0:47:00.010 --> 0:47:02.810
<v S2>maybe the time is now, I want you more than

0:47:02.810 --> 0:47:08.050
<v S2>anything else, especially this chapter on boundaries around your life.

0:47:09.010 --> 0:47:12.370
<v S2>Because you've got to quit feeding what's been killing you.

0:47:12.690 --> 0:47:16.210
<v S2>You got to starve it, and God can help you.

0:47:16.210 --> 0:47:18.839
<v S2>And we've got a path forward. I want you to

0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:20.839
<v S2>check this out if you haven't done it yet. Young

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:22.239
<v S2>Thunder's got a link right now.

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:25.799
<v S5>Yeah. This is to Carl's book, Killing Sin. Conquer. The

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:28.879
<v S5>one thing that is defeating you, it's scripture based. It's

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:31.560
<v S5>not just Carl's thoughts floating around in there. This is

0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:35.000
<v S5>all for that. This is all from the word of God.

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:38.160
<v S5>And it will help you conquer the one thing that's

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:41.040
<v S5>defeating you. We truly believe it. Just text the word

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:46.680
<v S5>conquer to 855, 78, 98. That's c o n q

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:51.480
<v S5>u e r to 855 five 7898.

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:54.680
<v S2>And Godspeed to you. I love you all, I really do.

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:57.480
<v S2>This is a fun segment. Monday's bottom of the hour,

0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:01.240
<v S2>but boundaries is huge.

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:02.840
<v S5>Oh, it's so big.

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:07.200
<v S2>It's big man. I mean, we are not at the

0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:09.640
<v S2>mercy of this wacky world that we live in, in

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:14.160
<v S2>these devices in particular, or gossip or whatever it may be,

0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:16.200
<v S2>you can get creative and come up with ways to

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:19.430
<v S2>put boundaries around this, and I cover that in one

0:48:19.469 --> 0:48:23.670
<v S2>whole chapter, so check it out. Text the word conquer

0:48:23.670 --> 0:48:29.989
<v S2>right now. Just the word conquer to 805, 55, 78, 98.

0:48:29.989 --> 0:48:32.470
<v S2>And quite frankly, this is one of those words that

0:48:32.469 --> 0:48:36.310
<v S2>phonetically doesn't look like it's spelled. It doesn't sound like

0:48:36.310 --> 0:48:39.069
<v S2>it's spelled at all. Correct c o n c o

0:48:39.070 --> 0:48:44.430
<v S2>n q u e r. Conquer to 855 five 7898.

0:48:45.190 --> 0:48:47.830
<v S2>I want to help you take your next step with

0:48:47.830 --> 0:48:50.910
<v S2>Jesus and this whole issue of killing sin, getting off

0:48:50.910 --> 0:48:58.430
<v S2>that stupid sin shame, repent, repeat madness cycle can end,

0:48:58.469 --> 0:49:01.190
<v S2>my friend. It can end and I don't care what

0:49:01.190 --> 0:49:04.509
<v S2>it is. Let God do that work in you. Just

0:49:04.510 --> 0:49:09.950
<v S2>text the word conquer to 855 five 7898. Well, coming up,

0:49:09.950 --> 0:49:11.910
<v S2>I've got a question for you right now if you

0:49:11.910 --> 0:49:14.590
<v S2>took because we're dealing with marriage all week long here.

0:49:16.950 --> 0:49:23.830
<v S2>If you took a look at your marriage. What is

0:49:23.830 --> 0:49:31.190
<v S2>that thing? That most rips you off from love. And

0:49:31.190 --> 0:49:36.750
<v S2>usually it's simple little things. What does that behavior or

0:49:36.750 --> 0:49:40.190
<v S2>that issue in your marriage that if you're not attentive

0:49:40.190 --> 0:49:43.710
<v S2>to it, it's going to rip you off blind? Think

0:49:43.710 --> 0:49:47.870
<v S2>about that a second. Think about that. And if you

0:49:47.910 --> 0:49:49.950
<v S2>got a response to that you can text us here

0:49:49.950 --> 0:49:52.230
<v S2>as well right now. What is that thing that if

0:49:52.230 --> 0:49:54.310
<v S2>you're not attentive to it in your marriage, it's going

0:49:54.350 --> 0:49:57.589
<v S2>to rip you off and it's going to take what

0:49:57.590 --> 0:50:02.830
<v S2>could be robust intimacy and turn it into glorified roommate status. Text.

0:50:02.830 --> 0:50:04.750
<v S2>Is your response to that one right now? I'm not

0:50:04.750 --> 0:50:07.230
<v S2>going to read out numbers or names on air. I

0:50:07.230 --> 0:50:11.430
<v S2>would just love to hear from you. 805 55 7898

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<v S2>805 55 7898.