1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,160 S1: What are you worried about today? What is the worry 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,320 S1: worm spinning around your life? Do you have anxiety about 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,280 S1: something that's ahead? Something ahead? Today? Maybe tomorrow. Maybe a 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,080 S1: month from now. Blair Lynn knows all about that struggle. 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,440 S1: She's no stranger to it. And today at the radio 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,959 S1: backyard fence, she's going to take the pain and the 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,120 S1: struggle of the panic attacks and the crippling anxiety she 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,080 S1: experienced and help you see the truth about your life. 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,360 S1: And then she's going to help you help someone else, namely, 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,680 S1: a child who struggles with worry. Don't miss the featured 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,360 S1: resource today. It might be a game changer for you 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,000 S1: or someone you love. It's a children's book. I don't 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,560 S1: feature many children's books on this program, but I can 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,959 S1: tell this one's going to make a difference. Let's get 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,000 S1: started with the program. From the heart to the heart 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,600 S1: for the heart. If you go to chris.org, you'll find 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,250 S1: out more about our guests. Resources. You can hear the 18 00:01:01,250 --> 00:01:05,170 S1: podcast on multiple platforms and you will find out how 19 00:01:05,170 --> 00:01:07,650 S1: to support us right there. Before I tell you about that, 20 00:01:08,050 --> 00:01:09,970 S1: we begin with a thank you to Ryan McConaughey doing 21 00:01:09,970 --> 00:01:14,530 S1: all things technical. Tricia is on spring break with her family. 22 00:01:14,569 --> 00:01:16,970 S1: Lisa is in the chair today. Josh will be answering 23 00:01:16,970 --> 00:01:20,130 S1: your calls. Each month I choose a thank you to 24 00:01:20,170 --> 00:01:23,250 S1: send anyone who supports us. And if you give each month, 25 00:01:23,450 --> 00:01:25,809 S1: become a back fence partner. You have access to these 26 00:01:25,810 --> 00:01:28,450 S1: thank yous as well. So jump on in the pool. 27 00:01:28,450 --> 00:01:31,930 S1: This is for everybody. Colleen Chow has been facing the 28 00:01:31,930 --> 00:01:35,410 S1: reality of eternity for about four years now. Well, we 29 00:01:35,410 --> 00:01:39,250 S1: all face that reality every day, right? No matter what 30 00:01:39,250 --> 00:01:43,330 S1: you're going through. But she had a diagnosis four years ago, 31 00:01:43,450 --> 00:01:46,330 S1: and it caused her. Well, what did it cause her 32 00:01:46,330 --> 00:01:49,650 S1: to do? Worry about her life. Worry about the cancer spreading. 33 00:01:50,170 --> 00:01:52,970 S1: Being anxious about her husband, her son. The pain that 34 00:01:52,970 --> 00:01:56,010 S1: they're going to go through when she's not around. All 35 00:01:56,050 --> 00:01:59,850 S1: the decisions that she's had to make. The worry is endless. 36 00:02:00,290 --> 00:02:02,930 S1: No matter what stage of life you're in. She could 37 00:02:02,930 --> 00:02:05,770 S1: worry about that. Or she could look at what the 38 00:02:05,770 --> 00:02:10,130 S1: Bible teaches about heaven. That's a real antidote to worry. 39 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:14,290 S1: To realize God is with her right here, right now, 40 00:02:14,970 --> 00:02:18,250 S1: and that when life is over because of his grace, 41 00:02:18,610 --> 00:02:21,410 S1: we will be with him. I want to send you 42 00:02:21,410 --> 00:02:23,650 S1: a copy of that book On Our way Home by 43 00:02:23,650 --> 00:02:27,050 S1: Coleen Chao. We are still short of our people goal 44 00:02:27,050 --> 00:02:29,490 S1: for March. We have a money goal and a people 45 00:02:29,530 --> 00:02:32,410 S1: goal made the money goal. That's great. We're short of 46 00:02:32,410 --> 00:02:35,730 S1: the people goal and we have one week left to 47 00:02:35,770 --> 00:02:38,570 S1: hear from you. The clock is ticking, the doors closing. 48 00:02:39,010 --> 00:02:41,570 S1: Call or click through today. I'd love to hear from 49 00:02:41,570 --> 00:02:45,130 S1: somebody who's never given a gift before. This is your opportunity. 50 00:02:45,169 --> 00:02:48,930 S1: A gift of any size eight. Six six. 95. Faber 51 00:02:49,250 --> 00:02:55,210 S1: is the number. If you'd like to call (866) 953-2279 or 52 00:02:55,250 --> 00:02:58,899 S1: if it's easier and it is Go to Chris Fabry live. 53 00:03:00,020 --> 00:03:02,380 S1: For some it's not easier, but for others it is 54 00:03:02,860 --> 00:03:04,700 S1: f a b r y is how you spell the 55 00:03:04,700 --> 00:03:09,380 S1: last name Chris Fabry live.org. Help us reach our goal 56 00:03:09,419 --> 00:03:12,579 S1: by the end of the month in one week. And 57 00:03:12,580 --> 00:03:16,460 S1: thanks for your support at the radio backyard fence. There's 58 00:03:16,460 --> 00:03:18,060 S1: so much to worry about. Are we going to make 59 00:03:18,060 --> 00:03:20,740 S1: our people go? There's so much to worry about in 60 00:03:20,740 --> 00:03:23,300 S1: the world, the Middle East. Look at the economy. Do 61 00:03:23,300 --> 00:03:25,620 S1: you see the gas prices today? Look at the record 62 00:03:25,620 --> 00:03:28,300 S1: high temperatures in March. What's it going to be like 63 00:03:28,300 --> 00:03:31,100 S1: this summer? Look at what's going on in politics on 64 00:03:31,100 --> 00:03:33,820 S1: Capitol Hill. The legal battles that are going on in 65 00:03:33,820 --> 00:03:38,300 S1: the Supreme Court. We are exposed to so much bad news. 66 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:41,140 S1: And if you add social media to that mix and 67 00:03:41,140 --> 00:03:43,900 S1: you see the comparison trap that we fall into and 68 00:03:43,900 --> 00:03:46,900 S1: the pressure to be all you can be and measure 69 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:50,100 S1: up to what others think about you and who you 70 00:03:50,100 --> 00:03:53,420 S1: ought to be. Boy howdy, you got a recipe for 71 00:03:53,420 --> 00:03:57,470 S1: real anxiety. That is the kind of world our children 72 00:03:57,470 --> 00:04:00,510 S1: and our grandchildren are growing up in. How do we 73 00:04:00,550 --> 00:04:05,350 S1: help them? Especially the little ones, especially if you struggle 74 00:04:05,350 --> 00:04:10,950 S1: with anxiety and with worry? Into that maelstrom steps Blair Lynn, 75 00:04:10,990 --> 00:04:13,550 S1: L I n n e. She's an author, actress, Bible 76 00:04:13,550 --> 00:04:16,429 S1: teacher known as one of the originators of the Christian 77 00:04:16,430 --> 00:04:21,310 S1: spoken word genre. We've talked about her books Made to Tremble, 78 00:04:21,350 --> 00:04:23,790 S1: how anxiety became the best thing that ever Happened to 79 00:04:23,830 --> 00:04:28,270 S1: my faith and finding my father. She and her husband, Shai, 80 00:04:28,310 --> 00:04:31,150 S1: live in Dallas with their three children, and her new 81 00:04:31,150 --> 00:04:35,870 S1: book is our featured resource. Yara the Brave y a 82 00:04:35,910 --> 00:04:40,510 S1: r a. Yara the brave and the Swirling Worry. Just 83 00:04:40,510 --> 00:04:45,270 S1: go to Chris dot. Blair. Lynn, how are you doing today? 84 00:04:45,950 --> 00:04:48,510 S2: I'm doing well. Chris Fabry, thanks for having me on 85 00:04:48,510 --> 00:04:49,270 S2: again today. 86 00:04:49,750 --> 00:04:53,230 S1: I am looking forward to this because this is a 87 00:04:53,230 --> 00:04:56,589 S1: nerve that touches just about everybody. Let me start with this. 88 00:04:56,830 --> 00:04:59,630 S1: Because of your past, because of the worry that you 89 00:04:59,670 --> 00:05:02,910 S1: went through, the anxiety. Did you have a fear that 90 00:05:02,910 --> 00:05:05,270 S1: you would pass that down to your kids? 91 00:05:06,470 --> 00:05:10,950 S2: Absolutely, I sure did. You know, I wrestled with anxiety 92 00:05:10,950 --> 00:05:15,670 S2: and panic attacks for about five years. And during that time, 93 00:05:15,670 --> 00:05:18,549 S2: that was one of my concerns. I was anxious about 94 00:05:18,550 --> 00:05:22,750 S2: being anxious and anxious about passing that anxiety on to 95 00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:25,669 S2: my children. Um, and especially as my children began to 96 00:05:25,710 --> 00:05:30,669 S2: grow and I started noticing some signs of worry in them, 97 00:05:30,870 --> 00:05:34,950 S2: I thought, okay, this shows why it's so important for 98 00:05:34,950 --> 00:05:38,230 S2: me to deal with my own fears so that I 99 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:41,870 S2: am not passing it on to them. I know like 100 00:05:42,070 --> 00:05:46,470 S2: anxious children, um, they're really seven times more likely to 101 00:05:46,510 --> 00:05:51,390 S2: develop anxiety due to observing it in their parents. So 102 00:05:51,390 --> 00:05:54,880 S2: this is a real thing. and. But yet there's so 103 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,919 S2: much hope for parents and for children. Because the gospel 104 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,120 S2: says that we don't have to remain in that sinful worry. 105 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:03,479 S2: There is hope for us. 106 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,120 S1: What did you. What signs did you see in your kids? 107 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:13,240 S2: Yes. So some of the signs and it's interesting because we, 108 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,800 S2: I think those who are not familiar with anxiety might 109 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,320 S2: miss some of these signs. But if you hear your 110 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:25,679 S2: child talking about complaining of headaches or stomach aches, maybe sweating, 111 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,559 S2: we're more familiar with like a rapid heart rate or 112 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:33,840 S2: shallow breathing. You may notice excessive worry or irritability, or 113 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:38,479 S2: maybe they want to avoid certain locations, certain people, or activities. 114 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,520 S2: There also can be a clinginess perfectionism that we see. 115 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,600 S2: So maybe they're questioning all the time, questioning their relationship 116 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,400 S2: with God. That was something I did as a child. 117 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,120 S2: I felt like I had to get saved over and 118 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,280 S2: over and over again. Um, so those are some of 119 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,160 S2: the signs that we should be aware of in our children. 120 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,600 S2: And those are some of the things, not all of 121 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,880 S2: those that I see in my children, but some of 122 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,880 S2: those I noticed and was able to address them. 123 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,000 S1: You know, that same thing happened to me when I 124 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,440 S1: was a kid. I was like, oh Lord, save me, Jesus, 125 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,000 S1: I don't want to go to hell and you know, 126 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,400 S1: that kind of thing. And then, and then it dawned 127 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,800 S1: on me at a certain point, it's like this. It's 128 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,800 S1: not about how hard you ask. It's it's just it's 129 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,559 S1: whether or not you're going to trust in what God 130 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,880 S1: says was true. It was like it clicked with me 131 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,240 S1: at a young age. However, what didn't click with me 132 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,400 S1: was the things that I was worried about. I didn't really, 133 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:39,120 S1: I didn't have parents who were able to enter into 134 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,320 S1: my life in in certain ways and ask questions. Or 135 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,640 S1: if I did, if I, if I revealed, oh, I'm 136 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,800 S1: having anxiety about this, and I would never say that, 137 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,930 S1: but I'm worried about whatever. A lot of times I 138 00:07:50,930 --> 00:07:54,010 S1: would hear, especially from my mom, God rest her soul. Oh, 139 00:07:54,010 --> 00:07:57,130 S1: don't worry about that, Chris. Don't don't worry about that. 140 00:07:57,250 --> 00:07:57,610 S1: And it's. 141 00:07:58,010 --> 00:07:58,450 S2: Like. 142 00:07:58,530 --> 00:08:01,370 S1: That made it that made it worse to to say 143 00:08:01,730 --> 00:08:04,050 S1: I told you my worry and now I'm not supposed 144 00:08:04,050 --> 00:08:06,970 S1: to worry about it. So what do I do with that? 145 00:08:07,490 --> 00:08:10,210 S2: That's right. And it's so important that we know, like 146 00:08:10,250 --> 00:08:13,850 S2: acknowledging the worry is the first step. I think sometimes. 147 00:08:13,890 --> 00:08:16,810 S2: And this is what we notice with Yara in the book, 148 00:08:16,850 --> 00:08:20,290 S2: she finds that she has this sinful worry and she 149 00:08:20,290 --> 00:08:22,970 S2: tries to stuff it into her backpack. She tries to 150 00:08:23,010 --> 00:08:26,450 S2: hide it. And that is what humanity does. We see 151 00:08:26,450 --> 00:08:29,090 S2: that in the garden. That's what Adam and Eve did. 152 00:08:29,490 --> 00:08:32,570 S2: They were afraid. And so they hid. They covered themselves 153 00:08:32,570 --> 00:08:35,170 S2: with fig leaves. And so we just find, you know, 154 00:08:35,210 --> 00:08:39,610 S2: other things that we cover ourself with. But helping your 155 00:08:39,610 --> 00:08:44,330 S2: child identify their what's actually making them afraid is so 156 00:08:44,330 --> 00:08:46,970 S2: important so that they can receive the proper care. I 157 00:08:46,970 --> 00:08:50,940 S2: think some parents, they resist acknowledging their child's anxiety because 158 00:08:50,940 --> 00:08:53,540 S2: of the stigma? And then I think they're on the 159 00:08:53,540 --> 00:08:57,460 S2: other side, parents who embrace their child's anxiety so much, 160 00:08:57,460 --> 00:09:00,220 S2: it almost becomes a part of the child's identity. Yes. 161 00:09:00,260 --> 00:09:03,380 S2: And I want to work. I want us to avoid 162 00:09:03,380 --> 00:09:06,100 S2: both of those extremes. You can acknowledge the things that 163 00:09:06,100 --> 00:09:09,020 S2: are afraid and say, okay, we're going to get through 164 00:09:09,020 --> 00:09:11,500 S2: this together. We're not going to pretend as though it 165 00:09:11,500 --> 00:09:14,020 S2: doesn't exist. And then this is not going to be 166 00:09:14,020 --> 00:09:18,020 S2: your full identity, right, that we take on. And so 167 00:09:18,020 --> 00:09:19,940 S2: even in the back of the book, I provide a 168 00:09:19,940 --> 00:09:24,020 S2: list of eight questions to help parents begin the conversation 169 00:09:24,020 --> 00:09:27,980 S2: with their children so that it's just so important not 170 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:32,060 S2: to just say, don't be afraid. That doesn't help, you know, 171 00:09:32,100 --> 00:09:35,459 S2: but to say, let's acknowledge this fear. Oh yeah, maybe 172 00:09:35,460 --> 00:09:37,900 S2: that that is something that may seem scary. Maybe it 173 00:09:37,900 --> 00:09:41,380 S2: does seem scary when the lights go out at night. Okay, 174 00:09:41,420 --> 00:09:44,340 S2: but I want to remind you of God's truth. I 175 00:09:44,340 --> 00:09:47,780 S2: want to remind you that I'm here with you. And 176 00:09:47,860 --> 00:09:49,860 S2: so let's kind of dig into this fear so we 177 00:09:49,860 --> 00:09:53,460 S2: can see there's safety on the other side. And it's 178 00:09:53,460 --> 00:09:54,980 S2: primarily found in God. 179 00:09:55,300 --> 00:09:58,500 S1: So what I hear you saying, especially for parents, kids 180 00:09:58,500 --> 00:10:01,500 S1: will catch more. It caught rather than taught. You know, 181 00:10:01,540 --> 00:10:05,140 S1: you can say a lot and please do. But what 182 00:10:05,140 --> 00:10:08,820 S1: they catch from you is so important. So I think 183 00:10:08,820 --> 00:10:12,380 S1: what you're saying, part of what you're saying is that 184 00:10:12,380 --> 00:10:17,220 S1: if you experience worry as a parent, don't spike that 185 00:10:17,220 --> 00:10:19,340 S1: in front of your kids and don't let your kids 186 00:10:19,340 --> 00:10:23,780 S1: never see you worry or have anxiety. You being open 187 00:10:23,780 --> 00:10:26,580 S1: and honest, it's like, you know what? I'm struggling with 188 00:10:26,580 --> 00:10:29,300 S1: this right now. This is the thing and I'm working 189 00:10:29,300 --> 00:10:32,060 S1: on it. And, uh, and I'm not going to, you know, 190 00:10:32,260 --> 00:10:35,660 S1: living authentically in front of your kids and letting them 191 00:10:35,660 --> 00:10:39,660 S1: know that you have worries, but are, are, you know, 192 00:10:39,700 --> 00:10:42,780 S1: trying to deal with those that could be a really 193 00:10:42,780 --> 00:10:45,179 S1: helpful thing for them to catch, don't you think? 194 00:10:45,910 --> 00:10:49,270 S2: Absolutely. And it's something that by God's grace, you guys 195 00:10:49,270 --> 00:10:54,550 S2: can walk together through. You know, to say, yes, I understand. 196 00:10:54,710 --> 00:10:57,710 S2: I deal with worry at times too, and this is 197 00:10:57,710 --> 00:11:00,990 S2: how I've been able to manage that anxiety. When I 198 00:11:00,990 --> 00:11:04,270 S2: feel that I'm dealing with a sinful worry, this is 199 00:11:04,270 --> 00:11:07,390 S2: how I address that sinful worry. And I do think 200 00:11:07,390 --> 00:11:09,589 S2: it is important for us to know that there are 201 00:11:09,590 --> 00:11:13,870 S2: two categories when it comes to anxiety. So anxiety in 202 00:11:13,870 --> 00:11:16,470 S2: the natural sense is really a part of our body's 203 00:11:16,510 --> 00:11:20,430 S2: natural alarm system. So it's built by God. It helps 204 00:11:20,429 --> 00:11:24,590 S2: protect us, right? That's that natural anxiety. You may have 205 00:11:24,630 --> 00:11:27,470 S2: moments where you stand up before a crowd and you know, 206 00:11:27,510 --> 00:11:30,230 S2: you feel the butterflies in your stomach, right? That low 207 00:11:30,230 --> 00:11:34,150 S2: level anxiety, those are physiological symptoms. But when we're talking 208 00:11:34,150 --> 00:11:38,390 S2: about like sinful anxiety or worry, you know, the Bible 209 00:11:38,390 --> 00:11:42,190 S2: defines that as when all of your attention is diverted 210 00:11:42,190 --> 00:11:46,280 S2: away from God and onto the thing that you're worried about. 211 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,880 S2: And I like that. You know, Paul gives us these 212 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,160 S2: two categories when he talks about. Inwardly he says, well, 213 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,680 S2: he says outwardly we're wasting away, but inwardly we're being 214 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,880 S2: renewed day by day. This idea of the outward person 215 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:04,440 S2: and the inward person. Right? So those physiological symptoms, it's 216 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,480 S2: important to note that that's not sinful, right? If you 217 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,240 S2: have a panic attack, right, it may not be the 218 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,200 S2: result of sin. These are physiological signs. But if you're 219 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,559 S2: dealing with sinful worry, you're not trusting God. You're aiming 220 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:23,319 S2: for control, right? To be able to see that worry, 221 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,640 S2: you know, when you look in your life to say. 222 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,600 S1: That's what I want. I want the control. Okay, stop 223 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,280 S1: right there, because we've got enough now to talk about 224 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,719 S1: for the rest of the week. With Blair Lynn, I 225 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,000 S1: want you to go to the website Chris dot. You'll 226 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,960 S1: see Yara the Brave and the swirling worry more with 227 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:53,840 S1: her coming up straight ahead on Moody Radio. We're talking 228 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,440 S1: about children and anxiety, children and worry, how to help 229 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,760 S1: a child who's really struggling in that way. And by proxy, 230 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,000 S1: we're also talking to adults because that's the thing about 231 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,240 S1: this book, this children's book, Yara the Brave and the 232 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,000 S1: Swirling Worry. It will because it's an allegory. It will 233 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,679 S1: speak into your own life and heart. It's just how 234 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,360 S1: it's been out a couple of weeks by Blair Lynn. 235 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,600 S1: You can see it at our website, kris.org. This might 236 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,920 S1: be something for your child or your grandchild or for 237 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,439 S1: you to go through. And I would love to hear 238 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,040 S1: from somebody today who's a parent or a grandparent, and 239 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,199 S1: you are saying, yeah, that's exactly what I'm going through 240 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,319 S1: with one of my kids, one of my grandkids. And 241 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,200 S1: I don't know how to handle this. I want Blair 242 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,720 S1: to be able to come alongside you and help you. 243 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,210 S1: Or if you're the adult and you say, I'm struggling myself, 244 00:13:44,210 --> 00:13:51,090 S1: what do I do? Here's the number (877) 548-3675. If you're worried, 245 00:13:51,090 --> 00:13:54,530 S1: if you have anxiety, if you're struggling in that way 246 00:13:55,090 --> 00:14:02,090 S1: and you just need somebody to, to step into that (877) 548-3675. 247 00:14:02,450 --> 00:14:07,010 S1: You mentioned Paul talking about the natural and then the 248 00:14:07,010 --> 00:14:11,330 S1: sinful anxiety or worry. I had this happen just yesterday, 249 00:14:11,330 --> 00:14:13,329 S1: went out in the backyard. We have some animals in 250 00:14:13,330 --> 00:14:16,090 S1: the backyard and we've got a fence around. Since we 251 00:14:16,090 --> 00:14:19,530 S1: live in Arizona, we, we have a snake fence, you know, 252 00:14:19,570 --> 00:14:23,250 S1: real small thing where the snakes can't get through because 253 00:14:23,250 --> 00:14:26,690 S1: we don't like the bad snakes getting in. And I 254 00:14:26,690 --> 00:14:30,130 S1: saw a snake crawling through the backyard. It's like, well, 255 00:14:30,130 --> 00:14:32,690 S1: one of these things doesn't belong here, and it's not me. 256 00:14:32,730 --> 00:14:35,770 S1: It's that it's him or her. I don't know, I 257 00:14:35,810 --> 00:14:39,250 S1: didn't I wasn't able to determine. Um, and so I 258 00:14:39,290 --> 00:14:42,890 S1: took a little closer look and I looked at the head. 259 00:14:42,930 --> 00:14:45,010 S1: I'm not really good with snakes, you know. I don't 260 00:14:45,010 --> 00:14:47,290 S1: like them a whole lot. But I looked at the head. 261 00:14:47,330 --> 00:14:51,010 S1: It was the head is not rectangular. It's not the 262 00:14:51,010 --> 00:14:53,130 S1: big head. And it wasn't a very big. It was 263 00:14:53,170 --> 00:14:57,490 S1: like about a foot long, real skinny. Hadn't been eaten much. And, uh, 264 00:14:57,490 --> 00:14:59,730 S1: so so I looked at his head. It's like, no, 265 00:14:59,770 --> 00:15:03,090 S1: that that's probably a gopher snake or a rat snake 266 00:15:03,090 --> 00:15:04,930 S1: or something like that. It's like he's one of the 267 00:15:04,930 --> 00:15:08,250 S1: good guys. He keeps the bad guys away. And there's 268 00:15:08,250 --> 00:15:12,130 S1: mice out there underneath the chicken feed. Uh, he probably 269 00:15:12,130 --> 00:15:14,730 S1: will will, you know, get bigger. So I just decided 270 00:15:14,730 --> 00:15:18,810 S1: to leave him alone. But my first reaction was the 271 00:15:18,810 --> 00:15:23,530 S1: reason I tell that story. My first reaction was a snake. Huh? 272 00:15:23,570 --> 00:15:27,489 S1: What am I gonna do? And you're saying that's natural? 273 00:15:27,490 --> 00:15:30,370 S1: There's there's we've been made that way, right? 274 00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:34,450 S2: Absolutely. That is is by design and it helps keep 275 00:15:34,450 --> 00:15:39,210 S2: us alive. Right? Because if it was a dangerous venomous snake, 276 00:15:39,410 --> 00:15:42,020 S2: you would want to have that immediate reaction to say, 277 00:15:42,460 --> 00:15:45,580 S2: I need the adrenaline. You know, I need the strength 278 00:15:45,580 --> 00:15:49,340 S2: to be able to karate chop the snake or however 279 00:15:49,340 --> 00:15:53,340 S2: you're going to rid it from your yard. You know, 280 00:15:53,540 --> 00:15:55,940 S2: maybe you're going to burn the whole backyard. I mean, 281 00:15:55,980 --> 00:15:58,980 S2: that might be what I would do. Chris. Yeah. 282 00:15:59,380 --> 00:16:02,420 S1: No, no, I've learned. And actually, I got one of 283 00:16:02,420 --> 00:16:05,540 S1: those little snake grabbers. You know, it's really long and 284 00:16:05,540 --> 00:16:07,740 S1: it will allow you to to, but then you got 285 00:16:07,740 --> 00:16:09,340 S1: to put it in a bucket and put the top on. 286 00:16:09,420 --> 00:16:11,380 S1: It's like, ah, I haven't used it yet, but we're 287 00:16:11,380 --> 00:16:14,980 S1: going to try. But. Okay, so there is that natural 288 00:16:14,980 --> 00:16:20,340 S1: kind of anxiety. And then there's the sinful anxiety. And you, 289 00:16:20,340 --> 00:16:24,660 S1: you define that as whatever becomes bigger than my trust 290 00:16:24,660 --> 00:16:26,580 S1: in God, basically. Is that right? 291 00:16:26,620 --> 00:16:29,860 S2: Yes. That's right. And I suppose that you're in a 292 00:16:29,860 --> 00:16:33,420 S2: space of worry where you allow the fear to so 293 00:16:33,420 --> 00:16:37,500 S2: consume your mind that you completely neglect God. I like 294 00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:40,790 S2: to look at it or view it as tunnel vision. 295 00:16:40,830 --> 00:16:43,630 S2: You know, if we have a big tunnel and all 296 00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:46,710 S2: of our cares and concerns are lined up in that tunnel. 297 00:16:46,830 --> 00:16:50,030 S2: My question is, where is God? Right? Is it only 298 00:16:50,030 --> 00:16:53,950 S2: our cares and us in that tunnel? Or is God there? 299 00:16:53,950 --> 00:16:57,030 S2: Is he present? And there are many different ways that 300 00:16:57,030 --> 00:16:59,030 S2: we see fear show up even in the scripture. We 301 00:16:59,030 --> 00:17:02,990 S2: see like Peter's denial, right? He, he, he denied Christ. 302 00:17:02,990 --> 00:17:06,469 S2: And that came from sinful fear. It began with pride. Remember, 303 00:17:06,470 --> 00:17:09,669 S2: he says, I will never deny you. So that started 304 00:17:09,670 --> 00:17:13,429 S2: in the heart. But the manifestation was the lie. I 305 00:17:13,430 --> 00:17:17,869 S2: don't even know that man. You know, Moses felt ill equipped, right? 306 00:17:17,910 --> 00:17:21,470 S2: He says, you know, uh, I can't be a mouthpiece 307 00:17:21,470 --> 00:17:24,030 S2: for you. I can't be a spokesman for you. And 308 00:17:24,030 --> 00:17:27,710 S2: God's anger burned against him. And he reminded Moses, I 309 00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:31,310 S2: made your mouth right. So he was afraid to use 310 00:17:31,310 --> 00:17:34,070 S2: the gifts that God would equip him with. We see 311 00:17:34,109 --> 00:17:38,190 S2: Abraham and Sarah. Remember Abraham. He said that Sarah was 312 00:17:38,190 --> 00:17:41,630 S2: his sister because he feared King Abimelech. And so he 313 00:17:41,630 --> 00:17:45,070 S2: claimed that she was his wife, right? And not his wife, 314 00:17:45,070 --> 00:17:47,550 S2: but his sister rather than his wife, because he was 315 00:17:47,550 --> 00:17:50,869 S2: afraid that he would be killed. And so that fear 316 00:17:50,910 --> 00:17:53,149 S2: led to a lie. And so this is what the 317 00:17:53,150 --> 00:17:56,590 S2: control does when we no longer have God in view, 318 00:17:56,630 --> 00:17:58,869 S2: we only have the fear in view. And we think 319 00:17:58,869 --> 00:18:02,270 S2: by thinking about this thing, worrying about it, I'm going 320 00:18:02,310 --> 00:18:05,310 S2: to somehow fix it as though we have the tools 321 00:18:05,310 --> 00:18:08,950 S2: and we're equipped to handle it. When we're not. We're not. 322 00:18:09,310 --> 00:18:10,949 S1: You know, I said this yesterday, you know what I 323 00:18:10,950 --> 00:18:15,750 S1: love about that? Peter's story and other parts of, you know, 324 00:18:15,790 --> 00:18:19,150 S1: how he deals, how Jesus deals with Thomas. He allows 325 00:18:19,150 --> 00:18:23,550 S1: them to make mistakes. He allows them, you know, the 326 00:18:23,550 --> 00:18:27,150 S1: fear that kind of overwhelms him. He even predicts that 327 00:18:27,150 --> 00:18:31,430 S1: it's going to happen. And then he uses it because 328 00:18:31,430 --> 00:18:34,350 S1: we wouldn't get John 14 six had it not been, 329 00:18:34,350 --> 00:18:36,639 S1: I think it was Thomas who said, you know, where 330 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,199 S1: are you going? We don't know the way. And Jesus says, 331 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,040 S1: I am the way, the truth, the life. No one 332 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,800 S1: comes to the father. It was a response to the 333 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:48,480 S1: unbelief or the fear or the anxiety of Thomas, that 334 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:53,920 S1: Jesus gives us this rock ribbed idea of who he 335 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,359 S1: really is. So he uses even our fear and our worry, 336 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:57,960 S1: doesn't he? 337 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,800 S2: Yes, he does. And that's why I say fear. And 338 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,960 S2: worry is really the perfect problem to have. God has 339 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,960 S2: so much to say in His word for fearful people, 340 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,400 S2: because he knew that things would be challenging. He knew 341 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,320 S2: we would have cares that this world would be fallen. 342 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,880 S2: We would have fallen bodies, fallen minds. And so he 343 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,040 S2: instructs us on how we are to navigate with the fear. 344 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,320 S2: So it's not so much that we have the fear. 345 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,200 S2: My question is, what are we going to do with 346 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,920 S2: our fear? Where do we go with our fear? 347 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,080 S3: Yes. Okay. 348 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,840 S1: Back up in your story, you said that you prayed 349 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,000 S1: again and again and again. Lord, save me, Lord save me. What? 350 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,080 S1: How did you get over that fear that he hadn't 351 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,879 S1: heard you? Or that he wasn't enough to be able 352 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:42,560 S1: to save you? 353 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,600 S2: Yeah. So it really came with me understanding the scripture 354 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,240 S2: in its context. It has helped me tremendously with my 355 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,840 S2: walk with the Lord and I. What I realized was 356 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,200 S2: that my relationship with God was not dependent upon me. 357 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,480 S2: I was trusting in the object of my faith, who 358 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,160 S2: is Jesus. And that is what makes all the difference. 359 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,840 S2: When we feel like we have to keep our relationship 360 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,520 S2: with God going right? And kind of floating. Then every 361 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,240 S2: time we'll feel like I need to get saved over again, 362 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,320 S2: my sister would joke with me because she said, every 363 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,480 S2: church we visited when you were a kid, you rejoined. 364 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,560 S2: You know, like I was baptized 3 or 4 times 365 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,240 S2: as a child, you know? And so this feeling that 366 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,840 S2: I need to be perfect in order to come to God. Rather, 367 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,810 S2: what the Scripture says is, while I was yet in 368 00:20:34,810 --> 00:20:37,850 S2: my sin, while we were yet in our sin, Christ 369 00:20:37,850 --> 00:20:41,090 S2: died for the ungodly. So it's not us getting our 370 00:20:41,090 --> 00:20:45,169 S2: life together and then being accepted by God, right? Jesus 371 00:20:45,170 --> 00:20:48,609 S2: has done the work for us and he's died on 372 00:20:48,609 --> 00:20:52,090 S2: the cross, and he resurrected and he is exalted. And 373 00:20:52,090 --> 00:20:55,810 S2: as we trust in him, it's his finished work that 374 00:20:55,810 --> 00:21:00,730 S2: allows us to be accepted by God. And that settles it, 375 00:21:00,730 --> 00:21:04,810 S2: right once and for all. He died like his atoning 376 00:21:04,810 --> 00:21:08,330 S2: sacrifice is sufficient. We don't have to come and try 377 00:21:08,330 --> 00:21:11,050 S2: to bring another sacrifice. Or, oh, if I just do 378 00:21:11,050 --> 00:21:13,970 S2: it this way, then I'll be accepted. Know God loves us. 379 00:21:14,290 --> 00:21:19,090 S2: He's with us. He views us like Jesus because we're 380 00:21:19,090 --> 00:21:21,050 S2: now united with Christ. 381 00:21:22,090 --> 00:21:24,450 S1: And for the parent who has a child who has 382 00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:29,930 S1: gone through that, um, what do you I, because I 383 00:21:29,930 --> 00:21:33,379 S1: feel like the Holy Spirit doesn't just work in people 384 00:21:33,380 --> 00:21:37,780 S1: over 30 years old. The Holy Spirit is drawing those 385 00:21:37,780 --> 00:21:41,659 S1: young kids. But I think, I think the in my 386 00:21:41,660 --> 00:21:45,580 S1: own life, that constant asking, you know, oh, I did 387 00:21:45,580 --> 00:21:48,020 S1: a bad thing. I must not be a Christian. That 388 00:21:48,020 --> 00:21:53,420 S1: whole struggling with that sin actually was a good process 389 00:21:53,420 --> 00:21:56,939 S1: for me to finally understand exactly what you were talking about, 390 00:21:56,940 --> 00:21:59,380 S1: that it's not about my performance. It's about what he 391 00:21:59,380 --> 00:22:01,740 S1: has done and my trust in what he has done. 392 00:22:01,980 --> 00:22:05,820 S1: That's a process that a child needs to go through, 393 00:22:05,859 --> 00:22:06,619 S1: don't you think? 394 00:22:07,540 --> 00:22:11,020 S2: Absolutely. And it's so important for us as parents, for 395 00:22:11,020 --> 00:22:14,379 S2: us to be spirit filled, for us to be filled 396 00:22:14,380 --> 00:22:17,859 S2: with God's Word so that when we speak, we are 397 00:22:17,900 --> 00:22:22,060 S2: pouring God's truth into the lives and the hearts of 398 00:22:22,060 --> 00:22:25,900 S2: our children, and we're praying that the Lord would bless it, right? 399 00:22:25,940 --> 00:22:28,820 S2: That the Lord would work a miracle of salvation in 400 00:22:28,820 --> 00:22:32,740 S2: our children's lives. One of the things that I have done, 401 00:22:32,740 --> 00:22:36,460 S2: even with our children, is through Scripture memory. So reminding 402 00:22:36,460 --> 00:22:40,500 S2: our children, you know, for example, Psalm 56 three, when 403 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:44,659 S2: I am afraid, I will trust in you. Or Isaiah 4110, 404 00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:47,300 S2: you know, so do not fear, for I am with you. 405 00:22:47,300 --> 00:22:50,220 S2: This is God speaking. Do not be dismayed, for I 406 00:22:50,260 --> 00:22:53,659 S2: am your God. I will strengthen you and help you. 407 00:22:53,820 --> 00:22:56,860 S2: I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. That 408 00:22:56,859 --> 00:22:59,780 S2: if we have a child who is a believer, right? 409 00:22:59,820 --> 00:23:03,500 S2: All of the benefits, all of the promises belong to 410 00:23:03,540 --> 00:23:06,060 S2: that child. And so we want to be a source 411 00:23:06,060 --> 00:23:10,740 S2: of encouragement to say, hold true, hold fast to the truth, 412 00:23:11,020 --> 00:23:13,980 S2: hold on to God's promises that even if you are 413 00:23:13,980 --> 00:23:18,260 S2: feeling afraid, you have someone with you who's greater than 414 00:23:18,260 --> 00:23:21,660 S2: your fear. He is your sense of safety and he's 415 00:23:21,660 --> 00:23:24,460 S2: in control. So you don't need to be in control. 416 00:23:24,460 --> 00:23:27,179 S2: You don't need to sit worrying, you know, kind of 417 00:23:27,220 --> 00:23:32,030 S2: allowing your thoughts to spin all night because sitting and worrying, right? 418 00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:34,990 S2: It doesn't add another day right to your life, as 419 00:23:34,990 --> 00:23:37,910 S2: the Scripture says. But there is one who can add 420 00:23:38,109 --> 00:23:41,350 S2: days to our life, right? There is one who can 421 00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:45,270 S2: do the miraculous, who can take care of us when 422 00:23:45,270 --> 00:23:48,470 S2: we are afraid. And so I think it's important for 423 00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:52,669 S2: us to remind our child who's really in control, who's 424 00:23:52,670 --> 00:23:54,910 S2: all powerful and who's with them. 425 00:23:55,710 --> 00:23:58,590 S1: I want to go through this story because it's really, 426 00:23:58,590 --> 00:24:02,910 S1: really good for us as adults to kind of get 427 00:24:02,910 --> 00:24:05,110 S1: into the mind of a child. It's called Yara the 428 00:24:05,109 --> 00:24:10,350 S1: Brave and the Swirling Worry. But I also know that you, 429 00:24:10,350 --> 00:24:13,990 S1: you might not be exactly in this situation that Blair 430 00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:16,230 S1: is in with young children. As a matter of fact, 431 00:24:16,270 --> 00:24:18,830 S1: Dee is on the line. Dee, before we take a break, 432 00:24:19,070 --> 00:24:20,590 S1: tell me why you called today. 433 00:24:22,790 --> 00:24:27,230 S4: Hi. Yes. Um, I wanted to share that my son 434 00:24:27,230 --> 00:24:31,800 S4: has been suffering, you know, from anxiety and depression since 435 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:37,000 S4: he turned 16. He's 20 years old now. And, um, 436 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,600 S4: he finally decided to be on medication. But to be honest, 437 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:46,240 S4: I don't think the medication has worked. Um, I don't 438 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,440 S4: see any improvement. As a matter of fact, I see, like, 439 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,760 S4: things are getting like nothing's changed since he's been on 440 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,320 S4: this medicine and now he's like, um, from what I 441 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,240 S4: can see in the research I've done, there's so many 442 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,240 S4: young people that are now taking these high energy drinks. 443 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,600 S4: And you know, that kind of scares me too. And 444 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,320 S4: I just spoke to him the other day and I 445 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,600 S4: told him, listen, that's not going to help your brain. Um, 446 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,800 S4: I don't want you to, you know, take these, drink 447 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,800 S4: this anymore. It's it's actually probably making you more anxious. 448 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,720 S4: And my son's been dealing with that and a lot 449 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:31,320 S4: of anger and, you know, he's been in, um, seeing, um, 450 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,240 S4: a therapist and a psychiatrist. 451 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,040 S5: So he's getting help. It's getting help. 452 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,320 S1: And he's 20 years old. I'm going to take a 453 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,720 S1: break right there. Don't go anywhere. Dee, I really want 454 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,080 S1: Blair to speak into this and to the anxiety and 455 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,560 S1: the and the worry that you have, as well as 456 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,000 S1: what your son is going through. We'll do that straight ahead. 457 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,639 S1: This Chris Fabry live on Moody Radio. 458 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,920 S6: We're talking with Blair Lynn today. 459 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,000 S1: Blair's an author, actress, Bible teacher. She's known as one 460 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,040 S1: of the originators of the Christian spoken word genre. Go 461 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,560 S1: to YouTube. Type in Blair Lynn L I n n 462 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,359 S1: e or shy S h a I Lynn. And you'll 463 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,920 S1: be there for a couple of years because there's so 464 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,929 S1: much there. It's really, really good. Ed. She wrote the 465 00:26:25,930 --> 00:26:28,570 S1: book Finding My Father. She wrote the book Made to 466 00:26:28,609 --> 00:26:32,609 S1: Tremble and her children's book now, which I don't think 467 00:26:32,609 --> 00:26:35,490 S1: it's a children's book. I think it's for everybody. Yara 468 00:26:35,530 --> 00:26:38,730 S1: the Brave and the Swirling worry. It's our featured resource. 469 00:26:38,770 --> 00:26:41,090 S1: It's just been out a couple of weeks, and I 470 00:26:41,130 --> 00:26:44,090 S1: promise we're going to talk about that. But Dee's question 471 00:26:44,090 --> 00:26:48,930 S1: really hits at the heart, Blair, of a parent who's 472 00:26:48,930 --> 00:26:53,330 S1: seeing a child in a high achieving child. You know, 473 00:26:53,369 --> 00:26:55,850 S1: this is a smart kid. You know, he's a really 474 00:26:55,850 --> 00:26:59,930 S1: good student. And he's he's a perfect student in a 475 00:26:59,970 --> 00:27:02,930 S1: lot of ways. But from the time that he was 16, 476 00:27:02,970 --> 00:27:05,690 S1: for the last four years, he's been struggling. And there's 477 00:27:05,730 --> 00:27:09,530 S1: there's a spiritual struggle. It sounds like that's going on there. So, Blair, 478 00:27:09,570 --> 00:27:10,770 S1: what would you say to Dee? 479 00:27:11,490 --> 00:27:14,610 S2: Yeah. You know, first of all, Dee, I just wish 480 00:27:14,609 --> 00:27:17,490 S2: I could be there and just give you a big hug. Um, 481 00:27:17,490 --> 00:27:21,650 S2: because it's hard. I've been on the side where I 482 00:27:21,690 --> 00:27:25,780 S2: am the one primarily dealing with anxiety. Um, but I 483 00:27:25,780 --> 00:27:28,460 S2: know it can be hard on the whole family to 484 00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:32,980 S2: deal with something like anxiety and or depression. Um, you know, 485 00:27:33,020 --> 00:27:36,180 S2: the Lord, I want to encourage you, though, to continue 486 00:27:36,180 --> 00:27:41,020 S2: to pray for your son, um, to continue to ask 487 00:27:41,020 --> 00:27:45,780 S2: God for grace to suffer long, um, you know, to 488 00:27:45,820 --> 00:27:48,699 S2: look at the long view on, okay, I'm going to 489 00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:51,939 S2: be an intercessor for my son, you know, as you 490 00:27:51,940 --> 00:27:56,020 S2: talk about him, uh, you know, being high achieving, trying 491 00:27:56,020 --> 00:28:00,179 S2: to figure out his life, um, our, our society right 492 00:28:00,180 --> 00:28:04,619 S2: now and our children specifically, they are filled and desiring 493 00:28:04,619 --> 00:28:10,020 S2: this dopamine. They're filled with more caffeine than maybe ever, right? 494 00:28:10,060 --> 00:28:13,940 S2: We have social media. Um, and so my encouragement is 495 00:28:13,940 --> 00:28:18,060 S2: to think through alongside the helps that he has with 496 00:28:18,060 --> 00:28:21,740 S2: a counselor. And as he figures out medication and what's 497 00:28:21,740 --> 00:28:24,940 S2: right is to think through. Are there ways to maybe 498 00:28:24,980 --> 00:28:27,460 S2: take a break from some of that social media, from 499 00:28:27,460 --> 00:28:30,220 S2: some of that caffeine? There were days where I realized 500 00:28:30,420 --> 00:28:34,379 S2: some of my anxiety and my trembling was because I 501 00:28:34,420 --> 00:28:39,500 S2: was chugging coffee, you know, and hot tea and black tea. Um, 502 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:42,180 S2: so maybe thinking through some of those things as well, 503 00:28:42,420 --> 00:28:46,100 S2: but I really want you to continue praying. Um, you know, 504 00:28:46,140 --> 00:28:49,660 S2: I think of like job's story, there are seasons where 505 00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:54,420 S2: sometimes the Lord has us going through difficult, difficult times. Um, 506 00:28:54,420 --> 00:28:56,660 S2: and the Lord has promised to be there with you. 507 00:28:57,020 --> 00:28:59,700 S2: And as your son serves the Lord, he's promised to 508 00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:03,180 S2: be there with him. And my prayer is that your 509 00:29:03,180 --> 00:29:06,660 S2: son would continue to look to God to help him 510 00:29:06,660 --> 00:29:11,980 S2: specifically for that internal wrestling, the inner person struggles and 511 00:29:11,980 --> 00:29:16,260 S2: that things that would be helpful like nature and, you know, 512 00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:20,260 S2: exercise and getting diet together, that those things would be 513 00:29:20,260 --> 00:29:24,110 S2: helpful when it comes to that outer person. Maybe the 514 00:29:24,110 --> 00:29:28,030 S2: Lord can even use the counselor to help. You know, 515 00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:31,230 S2: to regulate medication. As you guys think through that and 516 00:29:31,230 --> 00:29:34,550 S2: pray about that. Um, but that is my prayer I 517 00:29:34,550 --> 00:29:38,150 S2: will be praying for you'd, um, because it's just not 518 00:29:38,150 --> 00:29:41,670 S2: easy to walk alongside. We see. Even job's friends, you know, 519 00:29:41,710 --> 00:29:45,670 S2: job's family, um, the counsel that they gave at times. 520 00:29:45,670 --> 00:29:47,990 S2: And it's important for us to hold fast to God's 521 00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:51,470 S2: truth and to be an intercessor, um, be a source 522 00:29:51,470 --> 00:29:53,190 S2: of truth for your son. 523 00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:56,630 S1: D let me just add to that, uh, my wife 524 00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:59,310 S1: and I have nine kids and we've gone through some 525 00:29:59,350 --> 00:30:03,270 S1: of what you've just described as well with our own, uh, 526 00:30:03,270 --> 00:30:08,630 S1: to varying degrees. And the hard thing for me as 527 00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:13,110 S1: a fixit kind of guy is to, and you know, 528 00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:16,150 S1: you could be a guy or a woman who feels 529 00:30:16,150 --> 00:30:17,990 S1: this way. I just want to fix it. I want 530 00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:21,070 S1: this to go away. I want everything to be okay. 531 00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:23,350 S1: You know, wanted to get back to square one or 532 00:30:23,550 --> 00:30:25,950 S1: whatever it is. I want him to flourish. I want 533 00:30:25,950 --> 00:30:29,110 S1: him to thrive. And. And I just will say to you, 534 00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:33,790 S1: this is really not about fixing him. There's really nothing 535 00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:36,510 S1: wrong in the sense of you got to you got 536 00:30:36,510 --> 00:30:38,710 S1: to fix him. You got to find the right medication, 537 00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:40,550 S1: you got to do this, that or the other thing. 538 00:30:41,030 --> 00:30:45,670 S1: This is his story. This is his path. And it's 539 00:30:45,670 --> 00:30:47,990 S1: a it's a harder, in a lot of ways on 540 00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:52,070 S1: the parent to watch a son or a daughter struggle 541 00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:55,950 S1: in this way. Um, because you have that, you want 542 00:30:55,950 --> 00:30:59,310 S1: to take care of them, but there's something good at 543 00:30:59,310 --> 00:31:03,670 S1: the same time that is going on in him and 544 00:31:03,670 --> 00:31:07,430 S1: there's something good going on in you, as you say. Well, 545 00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:10,390 S1: I'm not going to worry. I am worried about this 546 00:31:10,390 --> 00:31:13,550 S1: and I have anxiety about this. But who is bigger 547 00:31:13,550 --> 00:31:17,510 S1: in this equation? Is he who is in me or 548 00:31:17,550 --> 00:31:21,200 S1: he who's in the world. And that's to me, that's 549 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:26,200 S1: where it comes down to. Um, Dede, does that resonate 550 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,120 S1: at all with you? 551 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,440 S4: Yeah. You know, um, I'm glad I, I'm glad I 552 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,000 S4: called because your, your words right now are very comforting 553 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,360 S4: that this is something I hadn't thought about. Um, I 554 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,840 S4: know it's his story and it's very difficult to watch. 555 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,959 S4: And my husband, he's like, like you, he's a fix it. 556 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,240 S4: He wants to just fix it. Like he feels helpless, 557 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,200 S4: like he's, you know, he says, I've tried everything and and, 558 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,080 S4: you know, I just can't fix it. And I'm glad 559 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,680 S4: you said that because that that's something that I can 560 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,959 S4: talk to my husband about to make him feel a 561 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,400 S4: little more at ease. Um, and also she mentioned about 562 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,160 S4: the exercise, my son is in perfect shape. He goes 563 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,360 S4: and he, you know, he's, he's got his muscles, he 564 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,530 S4: has a good diet. He exercises pretty much every single day. We, 565 00:32:19,570 --> 00:32:22,290 S4: you know, we gave them a gym, we were paying 566 00:32:22,290 --> 00:32:25,770 S4: for a gym for him. And you're right. And I 567 00:32:25,770 --> 00:32:29,610 S4: really think it's a spiritual battle. There's a huge spiritual 568 00:32:29,610 --> 00:32:32,930 S4: battle going on in our house, you know, and it's 569 00:32:32,930 --> 00:32:35,010 S4: been it's been very hard. 570 00:32:35,450 --> 00:32:38,810 S1: I identify with your husband, I because I want to 571 00:32:38,810 --> 00:32:42,050 S1: find I want to find the bibbidi bobbidi boo. You know, 572 00:32:42,090 --> 00:32:45,610 S1: in order to, to wave over this. And it's like, well, 573 00:32:45,610 --> 00:32:50,210 S1: if God is sovereign and he's at least in theologically, 574 00:32:50,210 --> 00:32:53,450 S1: if he's at least allowing this, then there must be 575 00:32:53,450 --> 00:32:56,690 S1: something here that he's trying to teach me as a parent, 576 00:32:56,970 --> 00:32:59,690 S1: and it must be something that he's doing in your 577 00:32:59,690 --> 00:33:03,090 S1: son that couldn't be done in any other way. And 578 00:33:03,090 --> 00:33:05,610 S1: I'm not saying that to just, okay, just accept it 579 00:33:05,610 --> 00:33:08,730 S1: and move on. It's like, okay, no, that gives you 580 00:33:08,730 --> 00:33:12,610 S1: a little bit of comfort, um, to know that that 581 00:33:12,610 --> 00:33:15,610 S1: God is right there with you, which Blair is what 582 00:33:15,610 --> 00:33:17,770 S1: you've written about with Yara? You know, that's one of 583 00:33:17,770 --> 00:33:21,050 S1: the things she finds out. You know, the shepherd's right here. 584 00:33:21,050 --> 00:33:25,170 S1: But I wonder if you might, uh, pray for Dee 585 00:33:25,210 --> 00:33:29,810 S1: and her family. Her son, daughter, husband, all that right now? 586 00:33:30,530 --> 00:33:34,490 S2: Absolutely. Heavenly father, we just first of all, we say 587 00:33:34,490 --> 00:33:38,210 S2: thank you that you are God and that we can 588 00:33:38,210 --> 00:33:41,450 S2: come and lift up Dee and her son and her 589 00:33:41,450 --> 00:33:46,610 S2: husband and her family to you. I just pray right 590 00:33:46,610 --> 00:33:50,650 S2: now that you would be with her son, Lord, whatever 591 00:33:50,650 --> 00:33:54,850 S2: the spiritual battle that he is wrestling with at the moment. 592 00:33:55,130 --> 00:33:58,370 S2: I pray that you would bring forth clarity. I pray 593 00:33:58,370 --> 00:34:01,090 S2: that you would protect him from the evil one. I 594 00:34:01,090 --> 00:34:03,610 S2: pray that you would help him to surrender his life 595 00:34:03,610 --> 00:34:06,610 S2: to you. If there are areas that he is hiding 596 00:34:06,610 --> 00:34:11,690 S2: or covering. Lord, I pray that he would completely trust you. 597 00:34:11,890 --> 00:34:13,969 S2: And I pray for Dee that you would help her 598 00:34:13,969 --> 00:34:17,739 S2: to entrust her son to you, knowing that you are 599 00:34:17,780 --> 00:34:20,700 S2: a God who is good, that you are sovereign, that 600 00:34:20,700 --> 00:34:24,299 S2: you are able to work all of these circumstances out. 601 00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:26,620 S2: And even like our brother Chris said, that you are 602 00:34:26,620 --> 00:34:30,820 S2: writing this story. Your story, but all of the many 603 00:34:30,820 --> 00:34:34,739 S2: stories that Dee's family is a part of, you are 604 00:34:34,739 --> 00:34:37,460 S2: working it all out, and I pray that you would 605 00:34:37,460 --> 00:34:41,700 S2: get the glory through Dee's story, through her son's story. 606 00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:44,180 S2: And we pray this in Jesus name. 607 00:34:44,460 --> 00:34:46,779 S4: Amen, Amen, Amen. 608 00:34:47,580 --> 00:34:48,020 S2: Amen. 609 00:34:48,060 --> 00:34:49,340 S4: Thank you so much. 610 00:34:49,380 --> 00:34:49,700 S2: For. 611 00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:52,780 S4: The comforting words. I'm so glad I called. 612 00:34:52,820 --> 00:34:53,980 S1: I'm so glad you called. 613 00:34:54,219 --> 00:34:55,300 S2: I'm glad you called, Dee. 614 00:34:55,460 --> 00:34:59,420 S4: Just praying for him. Um, my ladies from my Bible 615 00:34:59,420 --> 00:35:03,300 S4: study are praying for him. My my son also feels 616 00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:06,660 S4: very lonely. I don't know why this generation, they feel 617 00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:13,060 S4: so lonely. Um, so thank you so much. 618 00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:14,020 S1: We actually. 619 00:35:14,020 --> 00:35:14,900 S4: Your kind words. 620 00:35:15,219 --> 00:35:18,420 S1: D we prayed for you before we went on the program. 621 00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:21,300 S1: I prayed, God, would you bring just the right person 622 00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:23,660 S1: to call in here today? That would help us, you know, 623 00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:27,380 S1: go deeper into this topic and you've done that and 624 00:35:27,380 --> 00:35:29,180 S1: you did. How did you do it? You did it 625 00:35:29,180 --> 00:35:32,180 S1: by being faithful to the pain and the struggle in 626 00:35:32,180 --> 00:35:34,700 S1: your own life and your son's life and all of that. 627 00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:37,580 S1: So God bless you, friend. Thank you for calling in. 628 00:35:37,580 --> 00:35:38,420 S2: Thank you'd. 629 00:35:38,940 --> 00:35:41,460 S4: Blessings to you too. Thank you so much. 630 00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:42,620 S2: Thank you. 631 00:35:42,780 --> 00:35:46,060 S1: The book is Yara the Brave y a r a. 632 00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:51,380 S1: And the it begins with this story of this little girl, 633 00:35:51,420 --> 00:35:55,899 S1: Yara the Brave and the swirling worry. And there must be. 634 00:35:55,940 --> 00:35:58,540 S1: I mentioned this to you, but you haven't told me 635 00:35:58,540 --> 00:36:01,700 S1: the answer. There must be a reason why you named 636 00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:04,740 S1: her Yara. Y a r a. What is it? 637 00:36:05,180 --> 00:36:08,259 S2: Yes, there is a reason. So, um, just to kind 638 00:36:08,260 --> 00:36:10,859 S2: of give a little summary of the book, you know, 639 00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:15,790 S2: Yara is the bravest girl in her town. But one 640 00:36:15,790 --> 00:36:19,230 S2: day she has a worry. There's a worry worm who 641 00:36:19,230 --> 00:36:22,870 S2: shows up and starts spinning its silk around her. And 642 00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:25,149 S2: she's not sure what to do with her worries. So 643 00:36:25,150 --> 00:36:28,230 S2: she decides she's going to hide it. And at night 644 00:36:29,070 --> 00:36:33,270 S2: she is feeling the worry and she decides to run 645 00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:35,910 S2: out into the forest. And she meets these friends along 646 00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:38,870 S2: the way. A raven, a lily, a sheep. And they 647 00:36:39,150 --> 00:36:42,509 S2: and Mr. Wind. And they remind her of what to 648 00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:45,229 S2: do and teach her what to do with her worry. Well, 649 00:36:45,230 --> 00:36:49,270 S2: in the end of the book, she is reminded by 650 00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:52,190 S2: the sheep that she has the good Shepherd who's always 651 00:36:52,190 --> 00:36:55,070 S2: with her, and the good Shepherd is able to take 652 00:36:55,070 --> 00:36:59,270 S2: those swirling silk that the worry worm is wrapping around 653 00:36:59,270 --> 00:37:03,710 S2: her and turn it into something beautiful and good. And 654 00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:08,590 S2: eventually what that is, is that Yara develops wings and. 655 00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:15,440 S2: And so Yara actually means butterfly. So it's Arabic for butterfly. Yes. 656 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,600 S2: So you know, that worry worm and all of its 657 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,080 S2: silk is used to eventually allow her to thrust herself 658 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,560 S2: on God's strength so she can develop wings to be brave, 659 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,960 S2: not in her own strength, but in the strength that 660 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:29,960 S2: God provides. 661 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:30,959 S1: So, okay, so. 662 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:31,360 S2: What. 663 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,080 S1: What language? That's not in the Greek. Yara isn't butterfly 664 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,080 S1: in the Greek, is it? 665 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,160 S2: It's in Arabic, I know. Yeah, not the Arabic. Oh, yeah. 666 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,320 S1: Fantastic. Now, now, now it all comes together. I didn't 667 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,760 S1: get that. And one of my favorite parts is Mr. 668 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,520 S1: Wind because Mr. Wind and I'm, you know, I'm thinking 669 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,760 S1: from an evangelical Christian perspective. Okay, here comes the Holy Spirit. 670 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,360 S1: It's like, no, no, this is Mr. Wind telling her. 671 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,280 S1: As a matter of fact, let me go to the 672 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,280 S1: place where Mr. Wind comes in. Um, so yeah, so Mr. 673 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,560 S1: Wind says, ahem, young lady, my name is Mr. Wind. 674 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,600 S1: You seem to be a bit ensnared. Unprepared, like a 675 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,879 S1: kite blowing in my gusts. Has anyone ever taught you 676 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,400 S1: how to breathe? It's a must. Yara thought about this question. 677 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,960 S1: No one taught me to breathe. I've always done it. Mr. 678 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,480 S1: wind had been watching Yara. Her worry made her breath 679 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,560 S1: short and shallow. So he showed her how to breathe 680 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,719 S1: in deeply, like she was sucking through a straw, and 681 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,160 S1: then to push out all the air. Like she was 682 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,040 S1: blowing up a balloon. And this for the friends of 683 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,360 S1: Chris Fabry live. This is the Friday. Sigh. This is 684 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,000 S1: the parasympathetic system. This is oxygenation of the blood. You know, 685 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,800 S1: this is what you're doing. So you're teaching the child 686 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,600 S1: what it does to your system. When you take a 687 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,680 S1: deep breath and calm yourself down. Right? 688 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,160 S2: That's right. And breathing. I mean, I think that's something 689 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,760 S2: that we often it can be overlooked. Um, but typically 690 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,440 S2: when someone is anxious, they're breathing up in the chest. 691 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,520 S2: If you put your hand on your chest, one hand 692 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,440 S2: on your chest and the other on your belly, usually 693 00:39:08,570 --> 00:39:11,770 S2: the chest is what's moving. Um, but you want to 694 00:39:11,810 --> 00:39:15,569 S2: breathe from the belly. And I love that, you know, breathe. 695 00:39:15,730 --> 00:39:19,250 S2: Blow it up to the moon, you know, that. Um, and, 696 00:39:19,290 --> 00:39:22,810 S2: and actually it's a simple evidence based technique that really 697 00:39:22,810 --> 00:39:26,290 S2: can offer help. It's important, I think, to teach this 698 00:39:26,290 --> 00:39:28,890 S2: to our children. Now, don't teach them when they're in 699 00:39:28,890 --> 00:39:31,810 S2: the middle of feeling anxiety, but teach them when they're 700 00:39:31,810 --> 00:39:36,330 S2: calm so that when the anxiousness and the worry comes, 701 00:39:36,330 --> 00:39:38,250 S2: you can do that together with them. 702 00:39:38,290 --> 00:39:41,570 S1: Yes. It's also one of the mistakes that singers make. 703 00:39:41,650 --> 00:39:43,490 S1: I'm not a very good singer, but I know this, 704 00:39:43,489 --> 00:39:46,730 S1: that when you when you breathe from the diaphragm, when 705 00:39:46,730 --> 00:39:50,009 S1: you have support down there, you sing better than when 706 00:39:50,010 --> 00:39:53,730 S1: you just are breathing from your lungs from the top. 707 00:39:53,850 --> 00:39:56,130 S1: When you're when I'm speaking like this too, it's the 708 00:39:56,130 --> 00:40:00,330 S1: same thing when you when you speak with support, it's 709 00:40:00,330 --> 00:40:03,969 S1: different than when you're doing the shallow breath. So there's 710 00:40:03,969 --> 00:40:08,819 S1: something here for everybody today. Yara the Brave and the 711 00:40:08,820 --> 00:40:12,980 S1: Swirling Worry is a children's book. But it's not just 712 00:40:12,980 --> 00:40:17,300 S1: for children, it's by Blair Lynn. It's our featured resource. 713 00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:22,540 S1: Click the link. The website today. Chris Fabry dot o 714 00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:36,740 S1: r g. More straight ahead on Moody Radio. We're talking 715 00:40:36,739 --> 00:40:40,420 S1: to Blair Lynn today, L I n n e about 716 00:40:40,660 --> 00:40:44,100 S1: Yara the Brave and the swirling worry. If you have 717 00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:48,260 S1: kids or grandkids who are going through anxiety and worry 718 00:40:48,260 --> 00:40:51,580 S1: and struggles. This is a this is a book to read. 719 00:40:51,860 --> 00:40:54,420 S1: And if you've got kids like we used to have, 720 00:40:54,460 --> 00:40:57,500 S1: they want to read the same book over and over 721 00:40:57,500 --> 00:41:02,219 S1: and over, and it's gorgeously illustrated, but it really gets 722 00:41:02,219 --> 00:41:07,380 S1: down deep into the place where that child lives every 723 00:41:07,420 --> 00:41:11,060 S1: day where you and I live every day. You're hearing it. 724 00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:14,220 S1: You're hearing the worry. You're hearing the anxiety come out 725 00:41:14,460 --> 00:41:16,900 S1: with every topic that we do here. And there's an 726 00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:21,060 S1: awful lot out there. So go to chris.org. I want 727 00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:23,380 S1: to get Sue in before we end today. Sue, why 728 00:41:23,380 --> 00:41:24,460 S1: did you call today? 729 00:41:25,460 --> 00:41:28,140 S7: Well, thank you, Chris and your guest. I turned down 730 00:41:28,140 --> 00:41:30,940 S7: just a few minutes ago, but, um, it was a, 731 00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:33,100 S7: it really touched my heart because three out of four 732 00:41:33,140 --> 00:41:37,140 S7: of my grandchildren are dealing with anxiety and depression. Only 733 00:41:37,140 --> 00:41:41,060 S7: one of them is not. And she's been homeschooled. So 734 00:41:41,060 --> 00:41:44,940 S7: I wondered what your thoughts are regarding the educational system, 735 00:41:45,219 --> 00:41:49,060 S7: especially public school education, where they're being bombarded by so 736 00:41:49,060 --> 00:41:54,899 S7: many non-important issues in school, like gender issues and homosexuality 737 00:41:55,260 --> 00:41:58,620 S7: and anti-God stuff, that this is part of the problem 738 00:41:58,620 --> 00:42:00,700 S7: or what your thoughts were about it? 739 00:42:02,260 --> 00:42:03,900 S1: Good question. Blair, what do you think? 740 00:42:04,030 --> 00:42:07,390 S2: And just. Yeah. So you're saying you think that there 741 00:42:07,390 --> 00:42:10,710 S2: may be a connection between the public school and an 742 00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:15,830 S2: increased anxiousness in children? I don't know all of it. 743 00:42:15,870 --> 00:42:17,190 S7: I'm not part of it. 744 00:42:17,310 --> 00:42:21,430 S2: Yeah. I'm not sure. Um, you know, it's interesting. One 745 00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:25,069 S2: of the things that I do know is that family time. 746 00:42:25,070 --> 00:42:29,470 S2: So one, they say one day of scheduled intentional time 747 00:42:29,469 --> 00:42:33,109 S2: together as a family, it actually lowers cortisol levels. It 748 00:42:33,110 --> 00:42:37,830 S2: reduces anxiety. It helps children feel safe and connected. Um, 749 00:42:37,830 --> 00:42:41,150 S2: so that feeling, that sense of family cohesion, it really 750 00:42:41,150 --> 00:42:45,670 S2: acts as a safety net. So that potentially could manifest 751 00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:49,989 S2: itself in the form of being homeschooled. I think even 752 00:42:49,989 --> 00:42:52,989 S2: if you just have a set aside time and you 753 00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:57,710 S2: are intentional, I know not every family is able to homeschool. Um, 754 00:42:57,830 --> 00:43:00,190 S2: but if you have that intentional time, one of the 755 00:43:00,190 --> 00:43:05,359 S2: things that we do is family worship regularly, and that 756 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,879 S2: is a part of the rhythms of our home. So 757 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,440 S2: I think it's important, even if you're not homeschooling, to 758 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,640 S2: have that regular family time, that rhythm, so that you 759 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:20,759 S2: are instructing your children, you're discipling your children primarily, and 760 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,320 S2: even helping them navigate where they are in the world. 761 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,319 S2: So whether they go to a Christian school, public school, 762 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,040 S2: or homeschooled, um, I do think that there is a 763 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,560 S2: part that the family plays. I would say yes to that, 764 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,080 S2: but I don't know if there's a direct correlation to 765 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,560 S2: children in public school feeling more anxious. Does that make sense? 766 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:47,280 S1: It makes sense to me. That's because homeschooling does not 767 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:52,600 S1: inoculate you or your kids from struggles. Uh, learn enough 768 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,120 S1: about that. Over the last few decades, you have the 769 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,640 S1: same kinds of things that might happen in a homeschool 770 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,680 S1: setting or a Christian school setting. There is no perfect place, 771 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,759 S1: you know, to raise your child. They're going to be 772 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:13,080 S1: frustrated or they're going to encounter things online or with 773 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,399 S1: friends or whatever. You can't control that. And that's, I 774 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,520 S1: think a lot of people and people who are in 775 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,399 S1: homeschooling have said over and over again, this is not 776 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,040 S1: about me controlling everything, but this is about me giving them, 777 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,040 S1: like you say, you know, the wings for them to 778 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,800 S1: be able to go out into the the big bad world. 779 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,719 S1: But I really appreciate you, Sue calling in today. There 780 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,719 S1: are so many things at the at the back of 781 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,640 S1: the book. Yara the Brave there you have these things, uh, 782 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:45,920 S1: public speaking and learning to swim and, uh, petting a dog, 783 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,440 S1: even that some kids can be really scared of dogs. 784 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,440 S1: What are the things that you're worried about? What are 785 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,800 S1: the things that bring anxiety? So just having those kinds 786 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,600 S1: of conversations with your kids about those things might open 787 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,890 S1: them up to be honest about the things that are 788 00:45:01,890 --> 00:45:03,770 S1: really going on inside. Right? 789 00:45:04,850 --> 00:45:08,850 S2: Mhm. Absolutely. That's right. And it's so important to have 790 00:45:08,850 --> 00:45:12,650 S2: the conversation. Let your child know that there's safety in God, 791 00:45:12,650 --> 00:45:16,210 S2: that they can take that next little step. Trusting God, 792 00:45:16,210 --> 00:45:20,169 S2: moving in his strength to conquer, begin to conquer their 793 00:45:20,170 --> 00:45:23,730 S2: fears and regulate their nervous system. So I say, this 794 00:45:23,730 --> 00:45:26,450 S2: isn't a self-help book. This is a God help book. 795 00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:29,370 S2: God is our helper in our time of trouble. 796 00:45:29,730 --> 00:45:31,410 S8: I'm glad you put it together, Blair. 797 00:45:31,410 --> 00:45:34,210 S1: And I'm glad because it comes from your own heart, 798 00:45:34,210 --> 00:45:37,489 S1: your own struggle. And when that happens, when you take 799 00:45:37,489 --> 00:45:41,250 S1: your own pain and you allow God to work on you, 800 00:45:41,930 --> 00:45:44,250 S1: then it spills over to everybody. And it's done that 801 00:45:44,250 --> 00:45:47,930 S1: here today. Thank you for your heart and your writing. 802 00:45:47,930 --> 00:45:52,130 S1: Keep doing that spoken word stuff that you do and 803 00:45:52,130 --> 00:45:53,969 S1: come on back and see us again, okay? 804 00:45:55,330 --> 00:45:56,810 S2: Sure will. Thanks for having me. 805 00:45:57,290 --> 00:45:58,210 S9: I should have said spoken. 806 00:45:58,210 --> 00:46:01,330 S1: Word art because it is art. Blair. Lin L I 807 00:46:01,330 --> 00:46:05,650 S1: n n e. Yara the Brave and the swirling worry 808 00:46:05,690 --> 00:46:09,850 S1: is our featured resource@kris.org. As I said, I don't do 809 00:46:09,850 --> 00:46:13,569 S1: a lot of children's books. This one stood above to 810 00:46:13,610 --> 00:46:15,970 S1: me and I really wanted you to hear about it. 811 00:46:16,130 --> 00:46:18,250 S1: And you can find out more at the website. Kris 812 00:46:19,210 --> 00:46:25,970 S1: dot o r g. Tomorrow, one program feeds another. One 813 00:46:25,969 --> 00:46:30,730 S1: conversation with an artist who forgave his father is going 814 00:46:30,770 --> 00:46:35,210 S1: to lead to a listener in Michigan who decided to 815 00:46:35,250 --> 00:46:38,850 S1: forgive his mother. And something happened. And you're going to 816 00:46:38,850 --> 00:46:41,370 S1: hear about it tomorrow. And I want to hear your 817 00:46:41,410 --> 00:46:45,810 S1: forgiveness story tomorrow at the radio backyard Fence. Chris Fabry 818 00:46:45,810 --> 00:46:48,049 S1: Live is a production of Moody Radio, a Ministry of 819 00:46:48,090 --> 00:46:51,890 S1: Moody Bible Institute. Online Chris Fabry live.org.