1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,280 S1: That music means it's time for another visit to the 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,720 S1: radio backyard fence. Hey, friend, how you doing? We're going 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,440 S1: to talk about truth today on a proverbial Friday. That's 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,840 S1: because our special guests are not just readers of the Bible, 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,720 S1: not simply teachers. They are Bible livers because they seek 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,480 S1: not just to know stuff about the Bible, but to 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,920 S1: take it in and walk it out. And one great 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,920 S1: section of wisdom in the Bible is the book of Proverbs. 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,080 S1: Our proverbial scholar is Eva Rudnick, and we're going to 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,879 S1: put her to the test today on Chris Fabry Live. 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,120 S1: I want you to be thinking about this as you listen. 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,800 S1: What is your favorite proverb? Is there a proverb that 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,519 S1: changed your life? Is there a proverb that's hard for 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,519 S1: you to read because it kind of hits close to 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,120 S1: your lived experience from 1 to 31? Let's walk through 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,560 S1: Proverbs together. I will reveal a proverb that changed my 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,820 S1: life today on The Best of Chris Fabry Live from 18 00:01:01,820 --> 00:01:05,580 S1: July of 2018. Eight years ago. If you hear a 19 00:01:05,580 --> 00:01:09,340 S1: phone number, don't call us. This is a recorded conversation. 20 00:01:09,540 --> 00:01:12,420 S1: And since it's Friday, you know what that means. That's right. 21 00:01:12,420 --> 00:01:16,020 S1: It's time for the fabulous Fabi Friday side. It only 22 00:01:16,020 --> 00:01:19,220 S1: takes 89 seconds to oxygenate your blood and all the 23 00:01:19,220 --> 00:01:21,580 S1: other things the Friday side accomplishes. We call it the 24 00:01:21,580 --> 00:01:25,420 S1: five love languages. We boost the immune system, exfoliate the 25 00:01:25,420 --> 00:01:30,060 S1: lymphatic system, stimulate the parasympathetic system, oxygenate your blood, and 26 00:01:30,060 --> 00:01:33,459 S1: raise your serotonin level. Let's get those endorphins going. Take 27 00:01:33,459 --> 00:01:35,940 S1: in four seconds of air, hold it for seconds, and exhale. 28 00:01:35,940 --> 00:01:38,660 S1: When did we go? Now, when you get to the 29 00:01:38,660 --> 00:01:40,740 S1: place where you exhale, make sure you push on the 30 00:01:40,740 --> 00:01:43,020 S1: left side of your rib cage and take as many 31 00:01:43,020 --> 00:01:45,780 S1: of those as you need as we take a proverbial sigh. 32 00:01:45,819 --> 00:01:47,700 S1: That's right. Whether your favorite has to do with a 33 00:01:47,700 --> 00:01:50,220 S1: man skilled in his work, with teaching a youth the 34 00:01:50,220 --> 00:01:52,060 S1: way he should go, or what to do when you 35 00:01:52,100 --> 00:01:54,220 S1: sit down to dine with a ruler, this sigh is 36 00:01:54,220 --> 00:01:56,420 S1: for you. Maybe you identify with a person who wants 37 00:01:56,420 --> 00:01:58,760 S1: to show off his own opinions. Perhaps you want to 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,920 S1: enter the deep water of words and discover the flowing 39 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,680 S1: river and fountain of wisdom available for all. If you're 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,160 S1: tired of acquitting the guilty and condemning the just, this 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,919 S1: program is for you. And remember this Friday's II is 42 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,240 S1: dedicated to all who have turned away anger with a 43 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,000 S1: gentle answer. It's a public service of your friends at 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,919 S1: Chris Fabry Live Moody Radio, this station, and the society 45 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,800 S1: for the Preservation and Propagation of Proverbial Alliteration. All rights reserved. 46 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,760 S1: Void where prohibited. I made it, Ryan. Good job. Thank you. 47 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,120 S1: Ryan McConaughey is doing all things technical today. Tricia is 48 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,919 S1: our producer, but there's nobody else here because we're not live. 49 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,280 S1: So there's nobody answering your phone calls. But I do 50 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,280 S1: have a phone number I want to give you today. 51 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,200 S1: But first, let me ask you this question or a 52 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,640 S1: series of questions. What's heaven like? What happens the moment 53 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,680 S1: you die? Will you be able to see your loved 54 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:55,200 S1: ones from heaven? How can you practically experience the hope 55 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,020 S1: of heaven? Right now I have a book for you 56 00:02:59,020 --> 00:03:02,579 S1: from a friend named Colleen Chow. On our way home, 57 00:03:02,580 --> 00:03:05,300 S1: reflections on Heaven in the Face of death. You've heard 58 00:03:05,300 --> 00:03:08,700 S1: Colleen here. I really want to put this in your hands. 59 00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:12,340 S1: I think it'll encourage you. Go to the website chris.org. 60 00:03:12,380 --> 00:03:14,739 S1: You can see how you can support us and be 61 00:03:14,740 --> 00:03:19,660 S1: sent this book, excellent book by Colleen Chris fabry.org. Or 62 00:03:19,660 --> 00:03:26,820 S1: you can call the number 8669538669532279. And thank you for 63 00:03:26,820 --> 00:03:31,020 S1: your support of the radio backyard fence. All right, Lyle, 64 00:03:31,060 --> 00:03:34,100 S1: ladies and gentlemen, get ready to flip the onion skin. 65 00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:35,820 S1: If you scan up and down the dial, you will 66 00:03:35,820 --> 00:03:37,900 S1: not find two people more committed to the Bible and 67 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:41,140 S1: to each other than the two. Right, Alex? Doctor. Michael Redlich, 68 00:03:41,140 --> 00:03:46,340 S1: doctor Eva Redlich. She is. And he is still the one. Alex, welcome. 69 00:03:47,180 --> 00:03:50,660 S1: Thank you. The 1976. 70 00:03:50,700 --> 00:03:53,180 S2: I love this, love the music, love the music. So 71 00:03:53,220 --> 00:03:55,780 S2: do I love about that. We got married in 76 72 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,640 S2: And I said, I said, I'm always going to sing 73 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,400 S2: this song to you. 74 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:00,000 S1: Yeah. 75 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,520 S2: And, and sure enough, here it is. How many years? 76 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,480 S2: I can't even count. I've run out of toes and fingers, 77 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,040 S2: but it's 41 years later. Yeah. And still singing that. 78 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,400 S1: I knew that you would enjoy this. We could still 79 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,640 S1: play the other theme that I give the two Michaels. 80 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,200 S2: No, no, no, let's keep that. This is better, I 81 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,400 S2: like it. Hey. So I didn't know if I was 82 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,480 S2: on the program today. You said. Our guest today is 83 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,520 S2: Eva Wright. And I thought, oh, wow, I was going 84 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,440 S2: to leave. But our expert. 85 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:27,760 S1: Said our proverbial. 86 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:28,960 S2: Expert is. Eva. 87 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,920 S1: You're still a guest. Don't, don't. You're not diminished by this. 88 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,840 S2: No, no, no. I actually I don't have the proverbs 89 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,839 S2: in my pocket the way she does. She has a 90 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:38,240 S2: lot to do. 91 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:39,920 S3: You know, he'd go back to his office and work. 92 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:40,440 S2: Yeah. 93 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:46,360 S1: So it was 35 years ago this week that I 94 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,040 S1: asked a young, young woman to be my lawfully wedded 95 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,000 S1: wife that I proposed. It wasn't. We didn't get married, 96 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,700 S1: but I. And part of the reason, the reason that 97 00:04:56,700 --> 00:05:01,740 S1: I chose the day that I chose was because that 98 00:05:01,740 --> 00:05:05,100 S1: verse was in Proverbs and it says this A man 99 00:05:05,100 --> 00:05:07,820 S1: who finds a wife, finds a good thing and obtains 100 00:05:07,820 --> 00:05:11,420 S1: favor from the Lord. Eva, where is that? 101 00:05:11,820 --> 00:05:14,140 S2: We're not going to do a sword drill. This is so. 102 00:05:14,980 --> 00:05:17,900 S3: Awesome, I can't. My campus life days are far behind. Yeah, 103 00:05:18,140 --> 00:05:20,979 S3: I know she knows this. So there's. 104 00:05:21,020 --> 00:05:21,420 S2: You know. 105 00:05:21,460 --> 00:05:23,500 S3: There's there are these, there are these verses. We could 106 00:05:23,500 --> 00:05:25,859 S3: do sword drills with Michael, but I got general fuzzy 107 00:05:25,860 --> 00:05:26,979 S3: content that we can talk about. 108 00:05:27,020 --> 00:05:27,299 S2: Yeah. 109 00:05:27,339 --> 00:05:27,779 S3: Right. 110 00:05:29,540 --> 00:05:33,660 S1: That was on that was on the 18th of July, right? 111 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:36,500 S3: In 1922. There you go. Yeah. 112 00:05:36,540 --> 00:05:38,510 S1: You got it. It's a great year. But on the 113 00:05:38,510 --> 00:05:40,900 S1: 18th of July, I read that and I proposed to 114 00:05:40,940 --> 00:05:43,820 S1: her on that same day. I'd been reading that, you know, 115 00:05:43,860 --> 00:05:47,060 S1: for a long time. But that was the thing that I, 116 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:50,460 S1: you know, it's, it really sunk down deep in my heart. 117 00:05:50,700 --> 00:05:54,680 S1: This thing, this is a good thing. Um, and so 118 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,559 S1: I wanted to start us off with that. 119 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:57,080 S3: That's great. 120 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,040 S2: That's great. First. And so this morning Eva said to me, 121 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,360 S2: where's that verse that says about serving God and serving 122 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,800 S2: his people Israel? She says this to me today. I said, 123 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,159 S2: I need more. It wasn't even that clear. It was, 124 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,800 S2: there's a verse about serving Israel. What, what, where is that? 125 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,039 S2: And I said, I need more information. She says, well, 126 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,920 S2: I'm driving in my car right now and I don't 127 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,000 S2: have my Bible in front of me. But this is 128 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,920 S2: the verse and I it's because that's what so many 129 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:27,800 S2: people do on opening. 130 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,080 S3: I was just sitting across the desk. 131 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:30,920 S2: She was sitting right in the room there with me. 132 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:31,599 S3: Comedy was. 133 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,880 S2: But that's what people do on the radio. They. I 134 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,840 S2: think it's so funny. They'll say, I. There's a verse 135 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,120 S2: in the Bible that says. And you know, you can't 136 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,920 S2: quite tell what they're talking about. And then, well, could 137 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,240 S2: you give me a reference? And they'll say, well, I'm 138 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,880 S2: driving in my car now and I can't really I. 139 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,520 S3: Don't have a lot of information. I say, so I'm 140 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:51,320 S3: driving in my car now. 141 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,900 S2: I was thinking about just changing my name to Carnac 142 00:06:53,940 --> 00:06:54,860 S2: the Magnificent. 143 00:06:56,820 --> 00:07:01,380 S1: And putting the envelope up to your head and saying, yeah, um, 144 00:07:01,540 --> 00:07:04,060 S1: that's good. I'm looking forward to this because. And we 145 00:07:04,060 --> 00:07:06,460 S1: can we don't have to stay on Proverbs the whole hour, 146 00:07:06,460 --> 00:07:07,820 S1: but I think it would be kind of fun to 147 00:07:07,860 --> 00:07:10,620 S1: just see where you are as you listen to our 148 00:07:10,740 --> 00:07:13,300 S1: conversation here today, and maybe have a question about a 149 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:19,900 S1: proverb that has always bugged you. (877) 548-3675. Look who's signed 150 00:07:19,900 --> 00:07:23,260 S1: in already from Florida. Travis is on the line. Hi, Travis. 151 00:07:23,260 --> 00:07:24,220 S1: How are you doing today? 152 00:07:24,940 --> 00:07:29,619 S4: Hi. Thanks for taking the call. Um, glad to talk 153 00:07:29,620 --> 00:07:29,900 S4: with you. 154 00:07:29,940 --> 00:07:33,220 S1: Don't don't don't give me the reference. Tell me what 155 00:07:33,220 --> 00:07:33,740 S1: it says. 156 00:07:33,780 --> 00:07:34,059 S2: Oh. 157 00:07:35,980 --> 00:07:40,980 S4: Okay. Well, I'm, uh, it says, establish your work outside 158 00:07:40,980 --> 00:07:42,420 S4: and get your fields ready. 159 00:07:42,460 --> 00:07:42,980 S3: Oh, yeah. 160 00:07:43,020 --> 00:07:45,020 S4: Afterward, build your house. 161 00:07:45,860 --> 00:07:48,340 S1: Got it. Now, why is that important to you, Travis? 162 00:07:49,420 --> 00:07:52,960 S4: Um, I was moving into a serious relationship, and I'd 163 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,760 S4: been praying in depth about whether I should pursue this 164 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,520 S4: any further. And this verse kept popping up, and that's 165 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,560 S4: how it basically moved me out of this relationship. Um, wow. 166 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,720 S4: You know, when you buy a field, you usually build 167 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,560 S4: your house on it. And then once your house is built, 168 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,240 S4: then you go outside and you prepare your fields and 169 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,960 S4: you know, you establish your work outside. But this proverb 170 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,560 S4: is opposite. It's saying, establish your work outside, get your 171 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,280 S4: fields ready. And after that, then you build your house. 172 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,119 S4: And really, the Lord was telling me that I had 173 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,439 S4: ministry to do outside. That was the work in the fields. 174 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,600 S4: Go out in the field and do your work first, 175 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,360 S4: and then afterwards you build your house, you build your family. 176 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,280 S4: You meet the woman that I'm going to send it 177 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,560 S4: to your life. So that's why it meant a lot 178 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:44,040 S4: to me. 179 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,640 S1: Do you feel like, Travis, that you avoided a wrong 180 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,770 S1: path then in that relationship. At that point. 181 00:08:52,970 --> 00:08:56,730 S4: I absolutely believe that. And it was in my beginning 182 00:08:56,730 --> 00:09:00,610 S4: life with Christ as I was walking, the female was 183 00:09:00,610 --> 00:09:03,410 S4: also a Christian. And I thought, well, she's Christian, I'm Christian, 184 00:09:03,410 --> 00:09:06,890 S4: this is meant to be. And we both were getting 185 00:09:06,890 --> 00:09:10,809 S4: signals from the Holy Spirit telling us that we should 186 00:09:11,170 --> 00:09:13,570 S4: not be in that relationship, that it wasn't God's will 187 00:09:13,570 --> 00:09:16,450 S4: for us to be in this relationship. But it was 188 00:09:16,450 --> 00:09:19,210 S4: that one proverb that really solidified it for me. 189 00:09:19,730 --> 00:09:22,250 S1: Yeah. Greg, glad you called. Do you know Eva? Okay. 190 00:09:22,250 --> 00:09:22,890 S1: What's the proverb. 191 00:09:22,929 --> 00:09:29,050 S3: In that in 24? Like, um, like 26, 27. 27. Yes. Yeah. 192 00:09:29,250 --> 00:09:31,890 S1: Because. 26 says he who gives an honest answer, gives 193 00:09:31,890 --> 00:09:34,770 S1: a kiss on the lips, and then complete your outdoor 194 00:09:34,770 --> 00:09:36,970 S1: work and prepare your field afterward. Build your house. 195 00:09:37,010 --> 00:09:38,610 S3: Yeah, I think there's a lot of verses in Proverbs 196 00:09:38,610 --> 00:09:42,530 S3: about priorities too, and good application from. 197 00:09:42,690 --> 00:09:43,010 S1: Yeah. 198 00:09:43,050 --> 00:09:43,329 S3: Yeah. 199 00:09:43,370 --> 00:09:45,850 S2: Yeah, yeah, it's that's what it is. It's about putting 200 00:09:45,890 --> 00:09:48,910 S2: first things first. Uh, you need to earn your living 201 00:09:48,910 --> 00:09:51,390 S2: before you build your comfort, is what this is saying. 202 00:09:51,630 --> 00:09:57,590 S2: And of course, I've been thinking about, uh, I taught 203 00:09:57,590 --> 00:10:00,990 S2: through the book of Haggai last month at a men's conference. 204 00:10:01,710 --> 00:10:05,270 S1: And is that how you say it? I've always said Haggai. 205 00:10:05,390 --> 00:10:07,429 S2: Well, Jews say Haggai. 206 00:10:07,870 --> 00:10:09,670 S1: Okay, I'll start. I'll stop. 207 00:10:09,670 --> 00:10:12,350 S3: Then we stick. We stick in the extra syllable sometimes. 208 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:14,030 S2: I don't know why that is, but it's Haggai. I 209 00:10:14,030 --> 00:10:16,990 S2: was teaching through Haggai and God says to them, is 210 00:10:16,990 --> 00:10:18,910 S2: it right for you to live in paneled houses while 211 00:10:18,950 --> 00:10:24,429 S2: my house sits in ruins? HMM. That first that's again, 212 00:10:24,429 --> 00:10:27,469 S2: getting your priorities right. Uh, God's house should have come 213 00:10:27,470 --> 00:10:32,350 S2: before their house. Uh, your field getting your work situation 214 00:10:32,350 --> 00:10:36,790 S2: right before you. You, uh, get your comfort situation, right. 215 00:10:36,790 --> 00:10:39,590 S2: That's that seems to be what this proverb is saying. 216 00:10:39,910 --> 00:10:42,350 S2: And I think it's, it's just always about getting your 217 00:10:42,350 --> 00:10:44,950 S2: priorities right. That's what it is. 218 00:10:45,670 --> 00:10:49,010 S1: And that's what wisdom will do for you. The two 219 00:10:49,010 --> 00:10:52,450 S1: rednecks are with us today. Doctor Michael Van Landingham is 220 00:10:52,450 --> 00:10:54,530 S1: not able to be with us. I'm hoping he can 221 00:10:54,530 --> 00:10:57,250 S1: be with us in in August. But Eva, you can 222 00:10:57,250 --> 00:10:59,850 S1: come back then if you'd like, because we always like. 223 00:10:59,929 --> 00:11:00,610 S3: A bigger party. 224 00:11:01,090 --> 00:11:04,410 S1: Yeah, exactly. That's what we like. The more and more voices. 225 00:11:04,410 --> 00:11:07,170 S1: And if you have a proverb on your mind. I'd 226 00:11:07,170 --> 00:11:09,570 S1: love to hear from you today. One that has just 227 00:11:09,570 --> 00:11:13,250 S1: really guided you, or maybe it has goaded you, it 228 00:11:13,250 --> 00:11:16,210 S1: has challenged you in some way. And you see that 229 00:11:16,210 --> 00:11:18,690 S1: as you look back at your life. We're talking about 230 00:11:18,690 --> 00:11:21,650 S1: the two today. Love to hear from you on Chris 231 00:11:21,730 --> 00:11:37,410 S1: Fabry Live. He is author and general editor of the 232 00:11:37,410 --> 00:11:40,530 S1: Moody Bible Commentary, a host of open line on Moody Radio, 233 00:11:40,690 --> 00:11:43,370 S1: professor at Moody Bible Institute. She is an instructor at 234 00:11:43,370 --> 00:11:47,350 S1: Moody Bible Institute And a contributor to the Moody Bible 235 00:11:47,350 --> 00:11:50,390 S1: commentary and a whole lot more. They've been married since 236 00:11:51,070 --> 00:11:54,310 S1: and they are here today. The two mix and we're 237 00:11:54,309 --> 00:11:55,310 S1: talking about Proverbs. 238 00:11:55,350 --> 00:11:58,030 S2: Well, we can say is Abraham Lincoln came to our wedding. 239 00:11:58,070 --> 00:12:00,750 S3: Yeah, right. He looked good, too. Yeah, yeah. 240 00:12:01,190 --> 00:12:05,550 S1: Uh, he was a lot better health. Let's, uh, let's 241 00:12:05,550 --> 00:12:07,710 S1: go to you. I want to ask you to your proverbs, 242 00:12:07,710 --> 00:12:12,949 S1: since I've given mine. And then we'll go back to calls. (877) 548-3675. Eva, 243 00:12:13,309 --> 00:12:16,429 S1: the proverb, your favorite or whatever fits in the category. 244 00:12:16,830 --> 00:12:20,030 S3: Of a favorite proverb. This is one that I, that 245 00:12:20,390 --> 00:12:24,990 S3: I encourage people to think about is Proverbs 1620 he 246 00:12:25,030 --> 00:12:28,310 S3: who gives attention to the word will find good. And 247 00:12:28,309 --> 00:12:31,870 S3: blessed is he who trust in the Lord. Uh, that 248 00:12:31,910 --> 00:12:34,510 S3: it's a real motivational proverb that. Okay, where are you 249 00:12:34,510 --> 00:12:36,350 S3: going to spend your time? How are you going to 250 00:12:36,350 --> 00:12:40,070 S3: arrange your priorities? Like this last conversation we just had 251 00:12:40,390 --> 00:12:43,829 S3: that he who gives attention to the word will find good. 252 00:12:44,170 --> 00:12:46,250 S3: And blessed is he who trusts in the Lord. 253 00:12:46,970 --> 00:12:50,090 S1: Now, what version are you reading that? Because my CSB 254 00:12:50,330 --> 00:12:51,610 S1: doesn't say it exactly. 255 00:12:51,809 --> 00:12:54,930 S3: I know, that's why I like my version better, which 256 00:12:54,929 --> 00:12:57,569 S3: is the new American standard, the new American standard. 257 00:12:58,250 --> 00:12:59,730 S1: New American, no. 258 00:12:59,730 --> 00:13:01,209 S3: New American standard, American standard. 259 00:13:01,250 --> 00:13:03,690 S2: She thinks that Paul wrote the New Testament in the 260 00:13:03,690 --> 00:13:05,530 S2: New American Standard. Moses wrote the old. 261 00:13:05,570 --> 00:13:06,250 S3: Yeah. There you go. 262 00:13:07,610 --> 00:13:10,690 S1: So I said on our promotional announcement, we're going to 263 00:13:10,690 --> 00:13:13,410 S1: reveal who wrote Hebrews today. Now we know we're going 264 00:13:13,410 --> 00:13:17,450 S1: to agree on that. Yeah. Uh, okay. So, so the 265 00:13:17,490 --> 00:13:20,570 S1: priority is if you really want a relationship with God, 266 00:13:20,570 --> 00:13:23,010 S1: if you want wisdom in your life, you're going to 267 00:13:23,010 --> 00:13:25,650 S1: devote yourself. A lot of Psalms talk about this too. 268 00:13:25,809 --> 00:13:30,090 S1: You're going to devote yourself to not just hearing it 269 00:13:30,090 --> 00:13:33,970 S1: on Sundays. You're going to you're going to read it yourself, right? 270 00:13:34,010 --> 00:13:36,450 S3: Yeah, I like that gives attention. 271 00:13:36,490 --> 00:13:40,449 S2: And that's that's more than just reading it. It's giving attention, 272 00:13:40,450 --> 00:13:43,470 S2: reading it and heeding it. It's more than just listening. 273 00:13:43,510 --> 00:13:45,990 S2: It's such a wide thing is when you hear the 274 00:13:45,990 --> 00:13:47,910 S2: word preached, one of the things that I see in 275 00:13:47,910 --> 00:13:52,070 S2: Eva's life is, uh, she can't sleep sometimes she put 276 00:13:52,070 --> 00:13:55,550 S2: on a little podcast or something to listen. What does 277 00:13:55,550 --> 00:13:59,110 S2: she listen to? She listens to the Bible or she 278 00:13:59,110 --> 00:14:03,430 S2: listens to Warren Wiersbe old sermons, uh, which I think 279 00:14:03,429 --> 00:14:05,230 S2: is funny, uh, because. 280 00:14:05,390 --> 00:14:06,510 S1: Podcasts of Chris Fabry. 281 00:14:06,510 --> 00:14:07,470 S3: Live. That is true. 282 00:14:07,510 --> 00:14:10,430 S2: She does that mostly when she's doing dishes. But the thing. 283 00:14:11,030 --> 00:14:13,350 S2: But what I think is interesting when when she in 284 00:14:13,350 --> 00:14:15,230 S2: the middle of the night, if she wants to do 285 00:14:15,230 --> 00:14:16,150 S2: something to kind of. 286 00:14:16,750 --> 00:14:17,870 S3: Kind of focus your mind a little. 287 00:14:17,870 --> 00:14:21,270 S2: Bit. Yeah, she'll, she'll listen to the word. She gives 288 00:14:21,270 --> 00:14:22,910 S2: attention to it in all sorts of ways. 289 00:14:23,230 --> 00:14:25,550 S1: Who do you like to hear reading it? Eva. 290 00:14:25,790 --> 00:14:28,590 S3: I'm not. Doesn't matter that that matter. 291 00:14:28,630 --> 00:14:30,990 S1: Know what version is it? The new American standard. 292 00:14:31,030 --> 00:14:32,510 S3: If I can find it. Yeah, I like new American. 293 00:14:32,710 --> 00:14:33,430 S3: If I can find it. 294 00:14:33,710 --> 00:14:34,430 S2: Yeah. She's got it on. 295 00:14:34,750 --> 00:14:36,470 S5: Alexander Scourby myself. 296 00:14:36,510 --> 00:14:37,070 S3: Yeah, right. 297 00:14:37,670 --> 00:14:39,590 S1: All right, Michael, your proverb. 298 00:14:39,990 --> 00:14:43,130 S2: I'm going to give you two and I'll do them quick. Okay. Uh, 299 00:14:43,130 --> 00:14:45,450 S2: there's one that I got to use this week. That's 300 00:14:45,450 --> 00:14:48,330 S2: why I'm mentioning it. It's really not my favorite, but, uh, 301 00:14:48,810 --> 00:14:51,130 S2: Eva was on open line with me and a guy 302 00:14:51,130 --> 00:14:55,050 S2: that was very, very sensitive. He felt that we were, uh, 303 00:14:55,890 --> 00:15:01,210 S2: racist against white people, which is ridiculous, but. And he 304 00:15:01,210 --> 00:15:03,490 S2: was just. That's not what we were saying. It was 305 00:15:03,490 --> 00:15:04,970 S2: not what it was about. But he wrote a really 306 00:15:04,970 --> 00:15:09,010 S2: scorching letter. And, uh, so I answered it because I 307 00:15:09,010 --> 00:15:11,610 S2: was obliged to answer it. And then he started with 308 00:15:11,610 --> 00:15:15,650 S2: a lot of invective about Jewish people, and I decided 309 00:15:15,650 --> 00:15:17,970 S2: not to answer it. And it made me think, and 310 00:15:17,970 --> 00:15:19,930 S2: I don't want to say this person's a fool because 311 00:15:19,930 --> 00:15:22,290 S2: I'm not saying that. But when you have a conflict 312 00:15:22,290 --> 00:15:24,810 S2: with someone like this, you say, don't answer a fool 313 00:15:24,810 --> 00:15:28,810 S2: according to his foolishness, or you'll be like him yourself. 314 00:15:28,850 --> 00:15:31,770 S2: Answer a fool according to his foolishness, or he'll become 315 00:15:31,770 --> 00:15:34,730 S2: wise in his own eyes. And I think that this 316 00:15:35,010 --> 00:15:38,090 S2: they're right next to each other. It's not contradictory. It 317 00:15:38,090 --> 00:15:42,630 S2: just depends on the The circumstance and what what this 318 00:15:42,630 --> 00:15:45,270 S2: verse is saying. When you have someone. There's all sorts 319 00:15:45,270 --> 00:15:47,310 S2: of situations where you have to really weigh the wisdom 320 00:15:47,310 --> 00:15:50,710 S2: of it. Do I need to give an answer? And 321 00:15:50,750 --> 00:15:53,030 S2: you may say, yes, I do need to give an answer, 322 00:15:53,070 --> 00:15:56,590 S2: lest he become wise in his own conceit, so to speak. 323 00:15:56,750 --> 00:15:59,950 S2: On the other hand, when someone starts going off on the, uh, 324 00:16:00,630 --> 00:16:04,830 S2: on with some nasty things like was said, ah, you know, 325 00:16:04,870 --> 00:16:06,190 S2: I don't need to answer that because I don't want 326 00:16:06,190 --> 00:16:06,910 S2: to become like him. 327 00:16:07,310 --> 00:16:10,350 S1: It's almost like they're trying to pull you into something, 328 00:16:10,390 --> 00:16:12,750 S1: you know, grab you by the ears. That's one of 329 00:16:12,750 --> 00:16:13,270 S1: my favorites. 330 00:16:14,510 --> 00:16:17,110 S3: Reminded me of Who takes the dog by the ears. 331 00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:19,750 S3: She quotes that a lot, and it's kind of like 332 00:16:19,750 --> 00:16:21,710 S3: what I think what Jesus was talking about when he said, 333 00:16:21,710 --> 00:16:25,110 S3: don't cast your pearls before. Before swine. You know, there 334 00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:27,590 S3: are times when you're just like, okay, I'm not going to, but. 335 00:16:27,590 --> 00:16:31,670 S1: That sounds like you're, you're, uh, not prejudiced, but that 336 00:16:31,670 --> 00:16:35,550 S1: you are judging another person in a sense. And it 337 00:16:35,550 --> 00:16:39,650 S1: really isn't. It's just deciding this is not a fight 338 00:16:39,650 --> 00:16:40,930 S1: that I'm going to get entangled. 339 00:16:40,970 --> 00:16:44,050 S2: Exactly, exactly right. I mean, I felt an obligation when 340 00:16:44,050 --> 00:16:46,410 S2: someone writes a letter to write a response, and I 341 00:16:46,410 --> 00:16:51,090 S2: wrote a polite but, you know, clear response. But after 342 00:16:51,130 --> 00:16:53,370 S2: when he started getting into the invective and a lot 343 00:16:53,370 --> 00:16:55,410 S2: of things about Jews and Jews did this and Jews 344 00:16:55,410 --> 00:16:57,530 S2: did that, I'm like, I don't need to. I don't 345 00:16:57,530 --> 00:16:58,210 S2: need to do this. 346 00:16:58,250 --> 00:17:00,050 S1: What's the reference to those two verses? 347 00:17:00,090 --> 00:17:01,410 S3: That's the dog. Go ahead. 348 00:17:01,450 --> 00:17:02,690 S2: Proverbs 26 four and. 349 00:17:02,690 --> 00:17:05,450 S3: Five and 2617 is the dog by the years. Yeah. 350 00:17:05,490 --> 00:17:06,450 S2: Okay, read that verse. 351 00:17:06,450 --> 00:17:08,410 S3: Eva, I like that. Like one who takes a dog 352 00:17:08,410 --> 00:17:12,330 S3: by the ears is he who passes by and meddles 353 00:17:12,330 --> 00:17:14,729 S3: with strife, not belonging to him. 354 00:17:14,850 --> 00:17:15,770 S2: Yeah, I love. 355 00:17:15,770 --> 00:17:18,170 S3: That there's a, there's like a, there's like a Yiddish expression. 356 00:17:18,170 --> 00:17:21,010 S3: If there's something going on I shouldn't mix in. 357 00:17:21,050 --> 00:17:21,450 S2: Yeah. 358 00:17:21,490 --> 00:17:23,530 S3: Don't mix in, don't mix in. That's it, that's that's it. 359 00:17:23,690 --> 00:17:25,770 S2: Okay. But here's really my favorite proverb. And the reason 360 00:17:25,770 --> 00:17:28,850 S2: it's my favorite proverb is that I wrote this book 361 00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:31,490 S2: on messianic hope and I one of my arguments is, 362 00:17:31,530 --> 00:17:34,209 S2: is every book of the Bible, even the Hebrew Bible 363 00:17:34,250 --> 00:17:37,330 S2: points to the Messiah. And people say, well, Proverbs don't 364 00:17:37,330 --> 00:17:39,390 S2: point to the Messiah. And I always love this verse 365 00:17:39,390 --> 00:17:41,310 S2: because you're coming near to the top of the book 366 00:17:41,310 --> 00:17:42,909 S2: at the end of the book, you know, and you 367 00:17:42,910 --> 00:17:47,909 S2: come to Proverbs 30 and it says, uh, I am 368 00:17:48,030 --> 00:17:50,710 S2: more stupid than any other man, and I lack man's 369 00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:53,710 S2: ability to understand. I have not gained wisdom and I 370 00:17:53,710 --> 00:17:55,990 S2: have no knowledge of the Holy One. In other words, 371 00:17:55,990 --> 00:17:59,310 S2: in myself, I'm pretty nothing, right? But then it says, 372 00:18:00,230 --> 00:18:02,630 S2: who has gone up to heaven and come down? Who 373 00:18:02,630 --> 00:18:05,350 S2: has gathered the wind in his hands? Who has bound 374 00:18:05,350 --> 00:18:07,590 S2: up the waters in a cloak? Who has established all 375 00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:10,550 S2: the ends of the earth? Now there's the wise person, right? 376 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:12,870 S2: Not me. That's the wisdom. And of course, we know 377 00:18:12,869 --> 00:18:15,710 S2: the answer is. That's what is his name? It's the 378 00:18:15,710 --> 00:18:18,430 S2: name that's the Lord. Right? And then it says, and 379 00:18:18,430 --> 00:18:19,790 S2: what is the name of his son? 380 00:18:21,109 --> 00:18:22,310 S3: Surely you know. 381 00:18:22,670 --> 00:18:25,310 S2: Or if you know. Yeah. And, and I love that 382 00:18:25,310 --> 00:18:28,150 S2: because you're getting to the climax of, of Proverbs and 383 00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:31,629 S2: it's saying, hey, uh, you need to know that wisdom 384 00:18:31,630 --> 00:18:34,910 S2: is from the Lord, not yourself. And that wisdom is 385 00:18:34,910 --> 00:18:38,290 S2: found in God and His son. I love that. 386 00:18:39,330 --> 00:18:42,450 S1: The two are talking about Proverbs today. You can join 387 00:18:42,450 --> 00:18:47,689 S1: in like Charlotte in Brainerd, Minnesota. Hi, Charlotte. Thanks for calling. Hi. 388 00:18:48,930 --> 00:18:50,090 S1: Tell me your proverb. 389 00:18:51,210 --> 00:18:54,250 S6: My proverb is the righteous man regardeth the life of 390 00:18:54,250 --> 00:18:57,250 S6: his beast. But the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel. 391 00:18:57,450 --> 00:19:00,250 S3: Yeah, I love that. That's a great proverb. 392 00:19:00,570 --> 00:19:02,530 S1: Why, Charlotte, what do you think of that one? 393 00:19:03,930 --> 00:19:07,970 S6: Because I've worked with animals all of my adult life, 394 00:19:08,210 --> 00:19:11,250 S6: all the way back to like 13 years old. And 395 00:19:11,290 --> 00:19:15,090 S6: I've found that people who are really good. You can 396 00:19:15,090 --> 00:19:18,449 S6: tell by how they treat animals. If they treat animals well, 397 00:19:18,450 --> 00:19:22,130 S6: they're going to treat people and things higher than animals. 398 00:19:22,330 --> 00:19:23,170 S6: The way they should. 399 00:19:23,810 --> 00:19:26,330 S1: Interesting. Yeah. Do you feel that's true? 400 00:19:27,609 --> 00:19:30,889 S3: It's one of my favorite proverbs. Yes. I go off 401 00:19:30,890 --> 00:19:35,429 S3: on it once in a while. Yes. It's 1210. Proverbs 1210. um, 402 00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:38,710 S3: and I think that often those of us who believe 403 00:19:38,710 --> 00:19:41,510 S3: the Bible and recognize Jesus as the one who died 404 00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:44,750 S3: for our sins and rose again, were mocked by the 405 00:19:44,750 --> 00:19:47,990 S3: intellectuals and the scientific mind because, oh, you're just so 406 00:19:48,030 --> 00:19:50,510 S3: foolish and all you want to do is just rape 407 00:19:50,510 --> 00:19:52,869 S3: the earth. And you know, you have no regard for 408 00:19:52,869 --> 00:19:55,430 S3: ecology and blah, blah, blah. And I'm thinking the best 409 00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:58,310 S3: book on ecology is the Bible itself on caring for 410 00:19:58,310 --> 00:20:00,830 S3: God's creation. And this is one of those great passages. 411 00:20:00,869 --> 00:20:04,149 S2: And it's, it's if you don't care for your own animal, 412 00:20:04,150 --> 00:20:08,590 S2: how heartless are you? Um, I just, I just think 413 00:20:08,590 --> 00:20:11,990 S2: that that's, that's crucial. Uh, and it is a reflection, 414 00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:14,830 S2: I think of a person's character because animals are dependent 415 00:20:14,830 --> 00:20:18,709 S2: on us. They, they, they can't do it for themselves. 416 00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:22,990 S1: So the other, the other corollary, I think flips it 417 00:20:22,990 --> 00:20:27,190 S1: around too, because I had an uncle and I remember 418 00:20:27,190 --> 00:20:29,750 S1: when my uncle would come and the animals that we, 419 00:20:29,750 --> 00:20:32,990 S1: even the farm animals that we had, they would flock 420 00:20:32,990 --> 00:20:37,130 S1: to him. They would. I think that animals can sense 421 00:20:37,130 --> 00:20:40,130 S1: the heart of a person, not. You know. I don't 422 00:20:40,130 --> 00:20:42,170 S1: want to go too far with that, but I just, 423 00:20:42,210 --> 00:20:46,050 S1: you know, on a as I observe people, there are 424 00:20:46,050 --> 00:20:48,330 S1: some of my kids that are very, very, you know, 425 00:20:48,369 --> 00:20:51,369 S1: animals flock to them and others of the kids, you know, 426 00:20:51,410 --> 00:20:55,010 S1: the animals aren't necessarily that interested in not because they're, 427 00:20:55,050 --> 00:20:58,010 S1: you know, mean or anything. It's just their personality. Uh, 428 00:20:58,010 --> 00:20:58,930 S1: you agree with that? 429 00:20:59,210 --> 00:21:01,210 S2: Oh, yeah. We have three dogs and they all love 430 00:21:01,250 --> 00:21:01,930 S2: Eva best. 431 00:21:01,970 --> 00:21:02,370 S3: Yeah. 432 00:21:03,570 --> 00:21:05,450 S1: Well, that's that's because they're smart. 433 00:21:05,490 --> 00:21:06,010 S2: Yeah. 434 00:21:06,530 --> 00:21:08,649 S3: But but I think it is true. You notice that, 435 00:21:08,690 --> 00:21:11,570 S3: you know, especially if, like, we'll be walking down the 436 00:21:11,570 --> 00:21:13,490 S3: street with our dogs and, and some people come up 437 00:21:13,490 --> 00:21:15,050 S3: and they're just like, oh, look, there's a good person. 438 00:21:15,050 --> 00:21:17,209 S3: There's a good person, they're wagging and going, and then 439 00:21:17,210 --> 00:21:19,370 S3: somebody else comes down and they're just like pulling back 440 00:21:19,369 --> 00:21:21,010 S3: and looking at them. And like, I'm going to, I'm 441 00:21:21,010 --> 00:21:23,250 S3: going to protect you from this guy. And on the outside, 442 00:21:23,250 --> 00:21:25,649 S3: they look the same to me. Yeah. But there's a 443 00:21:25,650 --> 00:21:26,649 S3: they have a sense of it. 444 00:21:27,090 --> 00:21:29,690 S1: Yeah. Charlotte, I'm glad you called today. Thank you. We're 445 00:21:29,690 --> 00:21:32,790 S1: talking about Proverbs with Alex. The two ready, clicks and 446 00:21:32,790 --> 00:21:35,949 S1: we go to Colorado. Brandy's in Grand Junction. Hi, Brandy. 447 00:21:35,950 --> 00:21:36,990 S1: Welcome to the program. 448 00:21:37,910 --> 00:21:39,950 S7: Hi, Chris. Thank you so much for having me on. 449 00:21:39,950 --> 00:21:45,110 S7: I'm so excited you're in, um, Proverbs and especially wisdom. Um, 450 00:21:45,550 --> 00:21:48,310 S7: you know, there's 31 Proverbs and I usually read a 451 00:21:48,310 --> 00:21:51,070 S7: proverb a day and I was in Proverbs eight and 452 00:21:51,070 --> 00:21:54,189 S7: moving on to nine the next day. And, um, the 453 00:21:54,190 --> 00:21:56,270 S7: Lord spoke to me to just said, you know, why 454 00:21:56,270 --> 00:22:00,670 S7: don't you read Proverbs eight again? So, and I guess 455 00:22:01,190 --> 00:22:04,030 S7: it's a wisdom proverb, you know, it's talking about wisdom 456 00:22:04,030 --> 00:22:06,910 S7: was that before the beginning of the, of, you know, 457 00:22:07,910 --> 00:22:12,470 S7: before anything was formed by wisdom was there and speaking 458 00:22:12,990 --> 00:22:18,990 S7: wisdom as gold, as silver. And, um, he just had me, um, 459 00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:20,709 S7: you know, in my life, I try to, you know, 460 00:22:20,750 --> 00:22:23,389 S7: I always, I have teenage daughters and a family and 461 00:22:23,390 --> 00:22:27,510 S7: a job and focusing on the outside, um, stresses me 462 00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:31,250 S7: out and gives me, you know, too much overload, I guess. 463 00:22:31,290 --> 00:22:34,330 S7: And so you think you know. Seek me. Seek me first. 464 00:22:34,490 --> 00:22:38,649 S7: Then I will give you the wisdom to take the 465 00:22:38,650 --> 00:22:42,530 S7: word into your life, into these other areas. So it 466 00:22:42,530 --> 00:22:45,449 S7: was I'm just really excited that you're in Proverbs today. 467 00:22:46,570 --> 00:22:49,850 S1: I love that, you know, doesn't wisdom call out? Doesn't 468 00:22:49,850 --> 00:22:54,370 S1: understanding make her voice heard? It's it's the personification. You 469 00:22:54,369 --> 00:22:57,410 S1: see that throughout a lot of the different proverbs, don't you, Eva? 470 00:22:57,690 --> 00:23:00,649 S3: And I love verse 34. Go ahead. 471 00:23:01,730 --> 00:23:02,290 S7: Go ahead. 472 00:23:02,369 --> 00:23:04,090 S3: I just say I love verse 34 along what you 473 00:23:04,090 --> 00:23:08,850 S3: were saying about, um, helping you sort out the pressures 474 00:23:08,850 --> 00:23:12,410 S3: of the, of the day because 34, 834 says, blessed 475 00:23:12,410 --> 00:23:15,890 S3: is the man who listens to me watching daily at 476 00:23:15,890 --> 00:23:20,250 S3: my gates, waiting at my doorpost. So it is a, 477 00:23:20,250 --> 00:23:24,770 S3: it's a, it's a daily discipline, practice, opportunity and joy 478 00:23:24,970 --> 00:23:26,810 S3: to spend time in God's Word, to know him better 479 00:23:26,810 --> 00:23:27,530 S3: through His Word. 480 00:23:28,690 --> 00:23:32,109 S1: But the one who misses me harms himself. All who 481 00:23:32,109 --> 00:23:34,270 S1: hate me love death. Yeah, I mean. 482 00:23:34,869 --> 00:23:36,470 S3: That's a pretty big contrast, huh? 483 00:23:36,670 --> 00:23:40,310 S1: Yeah. And it gets really deep into, you know, who 484 00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:42,990 S1: we are and and where we're headed in life and 485 00:23:42,990 --> 00:23:45,750 S1: what path you're really on. If you really love wisdom. 486 00:23:45,950 --> 00:23:48,510 S1: You're really going to steep your life with this, right? 487 00:23:48,550 --> 00:23:52,110 S2: Michael and I, here's what I think about Proverbs eight, 488 00:23:52,109 --> 00:23:54,270 S2: which I think is so crucial. Now, I know that 489 00:23:54,270 --> 00:23:59,109 S2: the Moody Bible commentary doesn't agree with me about this. Uh, 490 00:23:59,109 --> 00:23:59,870 S2: David Finck will. 491 00:23:59,869 --> 00:24:01,190 S1: Be on the test a little later on. 492 00:24:01,350 --> 00:24:03,230 S2: Well, it's just every time I differ with the moody 493 00:24:03,230 --> 00:24:06,510 S2: Bible commentary on my program, there's a wonderful listener who 494 00:24:06,510 --> 00:24:08,470 S2: writes me and says, you're disagreeing with the moody Bible 495 00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:12,470 S2: commentary again. Uh, but I didn't impose my view on 496 00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:14,630 S2: everyone in the in the commentary. 497 00:24:14,710 --> 00:24:16,430 S3: It's not the Bible commentary. 498 00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:21,630 S2: No, no. But anyway, uh, I think Proverbs eight is the, uh, 499 00:24:22,830 --> 00:24:26,110 S2: it's sort of a embodiment of the Messiah. He is 500 00:24:26,109 --> 00:24:30,880 S2: the wisdom that always was. And, uh, and so when 501 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,480 S2: we are infusing our lives with wisdom, it begins with, uh, 502 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,080 S2: knowing the Lord Jesus and he is the one that 503 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,080 S2: lives in us. And, uh, the fear of the Lord 504 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,880 S2: is the beginning of wisdom, but the source of wisdom, uh, 505 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,320 S2: in our lives where it comes from is knowing the Lord. 506 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,719 S2: That's where it starts. And then of course, applying the 507 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,280 S2: principles of Proverbs and so forth. But, but I do 508 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,600 S2: think it's he's calling out, hey, come on, I've got 509 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,320 S2: skill for your for your life. 510 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,399 S1: So it echoes to me, seek ye first the kingdom 511 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,640 S1: of God. You know, all these things will be added. Um, right. Oh, 512 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,800 S1: we have a lot more for you from the book 513 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,560 S1: of Proverbs from the Tuber Deluxe. Don't they sound young? 514 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,040 S1: Eight years ago, July of 2018, we had this conversation 515 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,640 S1: with them and we could we did the whole hour 516 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,719 S1: on Proverbs. We could have done the whole week. We 517 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,520 S1: could have done a whole month of about the book 518 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,440 S1: of Proverbs. I hope this is invigorating to your soul. 519 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,060 S1: And always here at Chris Fabry Live. We like to 520 00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:32,460 S1: invite you to study God's Word for yourself. Don't just 521 00:25:32,460 --> 00:25:35,780 S1: listen to us talk about what we have gleaned from it. 522 00:25:35,940 --> 00:25:38,740 S1: You do the same and I hope you catch that vision. 523 00:25:38,740 --> 00:25:40,820 S1: Go to the website. You can find out more about 524 00:25:40,820 --> 00:25:45,020 S1: us and our featured resource right there, Chris Fabry live.org. 525 00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:49,379 S1: Chris Fabry live dot o r g. There is more 526 00:25:49,380 --> 00:26:05,700 S1: proverbial wisdom coming up straight ahead on Moody Radio. I 527 00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:07,619 S1: love it when the two can be here and we 528 00:26:07,619 --> 00:26:10,540 S1: can talk about the Bible. We're opening up Proverbs today. 529 00:26:10,619 --> 00:26:12,940 S1: If you go to Chris Fabry live.org, you'll see more 530 00:26:12,980 --> 00:26:16,899 S1: about Doctor Michael Rudnick and Eva Redlich. We have a 531 00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:19,699 S1: couple of featured resources there, one of which is the 532 00:26:19,740 --> 00:26:22,699 S1: Moody Bible commentary. Doctor Rudnick, you hear him and will 533 00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:26,440 S1: actually be tomorrow on open line here on Moody Radio 534 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,480 S1: or online. Again, you can link there to the website 535 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,880 S1: or link to online. And we're asking if you're just 536 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,640 S1: joining us, asking your favorite proverb or the proverb that 537 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,680 S1: changed your life or the proverb you have a hard 538 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,960 S1: time with. Maybe a question. Susan's in Spokane, Washington. Hi, Susan. 539 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,840 S8: Hi there. I have a favorite proverb. It's the righteous 540 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:54,560 S8: man leads a blameless life. Blessed are his children after him. 541 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,119 S1: Proverbs 20, verse seven. Is that right? 542 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,439 S8: Yeah. That's right. Got it. You found it. 543 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,680 S1: Why? Why is that one so important to you? 544 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,320 S8: It was a promise. God gave me when my husband died, 545 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,080 S8: and I. I have held that close to my heart 546 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,200 S8: for my children. 547 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,760 S1: Wow. How long ago? Susan? 548 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:25,060 S8: Um, seems like yesterday, but it was, uh, 15 years ago. 549 00:27:25,580 --> 00:27:28,460 S1: 15 years. And it comes right back to you. As 550 00:27:28,460 --> 00:27:30,700 S1: soon as I said the proverb thing, you you said, 551 00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:32,500 S1: I got a call and tell them this. Now, what 552 00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:36,260 S1: was the promise then I did, what was the promise 553 00:27:36,260 --> 00:27:37,260 S1: to your kids? 554 00:27:37,660 --> 00:27:43,420 S8: It's I had it put on his tombstone. Um, and, uh, 555 00:27:43,580 --> 00:27:47,740 S8: we all, uh, pay attention to that. And it's something 556 00:27:47,740 --> 00:27:51,460 S8: I've held on to when I've had ups and downs 557 00:27:51,460 --> 00:27:52,540 S8: with my kids. 558 00:27:53,060 --> 00:27:53,540 S3: Yes. 559 00:27:54,380 --> 00:27:57,540 S1: What a legacy. I'm so glad that that you think 560 00:27:57,540 --> 00:27:59,700 S1: of it that way. Michael. What do you say about that? 561 00:27:59,740 --> 00:28:00,980 S2: I just got you talking. 562 00:28:01,140 --> 00:28:03,540 S3: I was thinking that that proverb says, you know, so 563 00:28:03,540 --> 00:28:05,300 S3: many of these things that it talks about what we 564 00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:07,500 S3: can give to our kids. And it usually isn't like 565 00:28:07,540 --> 00:28:10,260 S3: it doesn't ever talk about, oh, give them a big 566 00:28:10,260 --> 00:28:12,140 S3: bank account or leave them a lot of cars or 567 00:28:12,180 --> 00:28:15,460 S3: a house or whatever. But it's, it's these character issues 568 00:28:15,780 --> 00:28:19,020 S3: like Susan's talking about that I think should motivate us 569 00:28:19,020 --> 00:28:22,659 S3: every day to be sure that we're living in a 570 00:28:22,660 --> 00:28:24,920 S3: way that is honoring to God that we can give 571 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,120 S3: this as a gift to our kids. 572 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,320 S1: Again, the priority thing comes out again, Susan. Thank you. 573 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,399 S1: All right. May is in Peoria. Will it play in Peoria? 574 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,160 S1: Proverbs will. Hi. May. Go right ahead. What's your proverb? 575 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,520 S9: Hi. Um, hello, everyone. And thank you for having me 576 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,760 S9: on your show. My proverb is Proverbs 18 and 21. 577 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,920 S9: Death and life are in the power of the tongue, 578 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,600 S9: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof. 579 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,040 S3: Mhm. 580 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,680 S9: Um, I find that fascinating. It helps me before I 581 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,719 S9: want to maybe snip at somebody. Um, I want to 582 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,840 S9: say I used to be a gossip so you can 583 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,520 S9: get pulled into that real quick. Uh, but now I 584 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,880 S9: know that I have to choose what I say out 585 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,160 S9: of my mouth very wisely, because I can tear down someone. 586 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,000 S9: And that is a, a rotten fruit to me. So 587 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,540 S9: that means that I would have to digest that. um, 588 00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:27,780 S9: I'd rather speak life into someone's life. And then that 589 00:29:27,780 --> 00:29:30,700 S9: way I can sleep better at night. I won't have 590 00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:33,100 S9: to go and have to do that. Please forgive me. Thing, 591 00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:35,300 S9: and then maybe have them say, I don't want to 592 00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:38,060 S9: forgive you. You really hurt me. And then that's part 593 00:29:38,060 --> 00:29:41,940 S9: of the rotten fruit. Where if I just treat everyone 594 00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:45,140 S9: right and say what Jesus wants me to say, which 595 00:29:45,140 --> 00:29:47,780 S9: is true, or say nothing at all, as my mother 596 00:29:47,780 --> 00:29:51,860 S9: always said, then I know that I want to speak 597 00:29:51,860 --> 00:29:55,260 S9: life into someone else's life, because I want to be 598 00:29:55,300 --> 00:29:58,020 S9: able to eat the fruit of the spirit. 599 00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:03,820 S3: That makes me think. Chris and Mae of Proverbs 13 three, 600 00:30:03,860 --> 00:30:07,020 S3: he who guards his mouth preserves his life. 601 00:30:07,060 --> 00:30:07,420 S2: Yeah. 602 00:30:07,780 --> 00:30:10,100 S3: And the and also the one about apples of gold 603 00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:13,739 S3: in settings of silver. It's a it's a word for. 604 00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:17,260 S1: Word, aptly or fitly spoken. See, that's the thing that 605 00:30:17,260 --> 00:30:20,800 S1: that gets me. I and I agree may I want 606 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,920 S1: to speak life into other people. But sometimes this happened 607 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,880 S1: just this last week. I was sitting around talking with 608 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,600 S1: one of my children, and she was sharing this thing 609 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,280 S1: about her life, and something that she shared reminded me 610 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,480 S1: of a news story. And I said, well, did you 611 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,920 S1: hear about. And she kind of sat there and she 612 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,480 S1: looked at me cross-eyed and she said, I, I just 613 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,840 S1: shared this really deep thing about, you know, my life 614 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,720 S1: and you went to a news story and it was like, 615 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,600 S1: it totally fit with what was going on in my head. 616 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,000 S1: The trouble with that was I hadn't moved into her 617 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,480 S1: heart or what she was expressing. I was still over here, 618 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,880 S1: and so there was nothing wrong with what I shared in, 619 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,520 S1: in the sense of it, you know, it was it 620 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,400 S1: was just a news story that, that I had heard. Um, 621 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,800 S1: but it wasn't a apples of gold in a setting 622 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,680 S1: of silver. It wasn't the right time to talk about that. 623 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,020 S1: I should have been more engaged with what was going 624 00:31:21,020 --> 00:31:22,740 S1: on in her life. Does that make sense? 625 00:31:22,780 --> 00:31:23,180 S3: Yeah. 626 00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:25,500 S2: Yeah. So I was once. Do you remember the old 627 00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:26,300 S2: Donahue show? 628 00:31:26,740 --> 00:31:27,340 S1: Oh, yeah. 629 00:31:27,460 --> 00:31:30,420 S2: I was on Donahue in the, oh, let's say, 32 630 00:31:30,420 --> 00:31:34,180 S2: years ago. Believe it or not. Maybe 34, I don't know. 631 00:31:34,260 --> 00:31:37,340 S2: A long time ago. And, uh, they had a panel 632 00:31:37,340 --> 00:31:41,100 S2: of people who had once been in believing congregations and 633 00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:45,500 S2: then had abandoned the faith. And they had a alternate 634 00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:47,739 S2: panel as well. And I was on that with my 635 00:31:47,740 --> 00:31:53,300 S2: friend Larry, and I felt like on that alternate panel, 636 00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:56,460 S2: I took all the heat. I was, I was there 637 00:31:56,460 --> 00:31:59,180 S2: speaking and I was doing my best to make the 638 00:31:59,180 --> 00:32:01,980 S2: case as I could for the faith. And my friend 639 00:32:01,980 --> 00:32:04,700 S2: Larry was on the panel. He didn't say one word 640 00:32:05,220 --> 00:32:08,020 S2: the whole program. And I said to him, here you 641 00:32:08,020 --> 00:32:11,460 S2: are on national TV and you didn't say anything. And 642 00:32:11,460 --> 00:32:14,060 S2: he said, even a fool appears wise when he when 643 00:32:14,060 --> 00:32:14,860 S2: he is silent. 644 00:32:15,420 --> 00:32:18,240 S10: And there it is. There's the proverb. 645 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,400 S2: But there is a time to speak. And that was 646 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,840 S2: a time to speak. And so it's just one of 647 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,840 S2: those things that sometimes we need to not say anything. 648 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,560 S2: And that's the best thing. And sometimes we do need 649 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,959 S2: to speak up. 650 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,960 S3: And back to your situation with your with your daughter. 651 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,640 S3: It's sometimes it's hard for us because we think we're 652 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,800 S3: tracking not as our kids with anybody. They're sharing something 653 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,720 S3: and we're and we're reflecting another idea. And then it's like, right, 654 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,400 S3: didn't you hear what I was saying? Yeah. 655 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,840 S10: Right. And I think. 656 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,120 S1: Some people would look at that as, oh, that's a 657 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,400 S1: terrible thing. I found it very instructive because it's like, 658 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,080 S1: how many times do I do that in other situations? 659 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,160 S1: I don't even see it. She helped me. 660 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:57,720 S10: See. 661 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,200 S3: Yes. 662 00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,560 S10: So sweet what it was. 663 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:00,040 S1: You know. 664 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,400 S10: I thought. 665 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,640 S2: That's a great insight because that's what our kids need. 666 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,160 S2: Sometimes when I they want us to really listen. And 667 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,760 S2: my son Seth, uh, he when he was little, I 668 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,320 S2: love this. He would he I should have said one 669 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,120 S2: of my sons, but one of my sons would do this. 670 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,620 S3: He is unnamed. 671 00:33:17,660 --> 00:33:21,700 S2: Unnamed son. He. He said he was talking to me. Daddy, daddy! 672 00:33:21,740 --> 00:33:24,260 S2: Daddy and I and he said, are you listening? And. 673 00:33:24,460 --> 00:33:26,900 S2: And I said, yeah, I'm listening. And he took his 674 00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:28,660 S2: hands and he turned my face to him. And he says, 675 00:33:28,660 --> 00:33:30,660 S2: I want you to listen with your face. 676 00:33:31,340 --> 00:33:31,580 S1: Oh. 677 00:33:32,380 --> 00:33:35,540 S2: And I thought, thank you. And it's so funny. He's 678 00:33:35,540 --> 00:33:37,420 S2: 30 years old now and he still will. 679 00:33:37,460 --> 00:33:38,380 S3: He'll sometimes say. 680 00:33:38,780 --> 00:33:42,060 S2: Look, eyes. Eyes. I want you to listen with your face. 681 00:33:42,540 --> 00:33:45,820 S1: Yes, yes. And the heart. When the face is turned. 682 00:33:45,820 --> 00:33:48,820 S1: The heart is much more easy to be there with you, 683 00:33:49,060 --> 00:33:49,420 S1: isn't it? 684 00:33:49,460 --> 00:33:51,700 S2: Yeah. They. They want full attention. They want us to 685 00:33:51,740 --> 00:33:54,620 S2: hear what they're saying. And and I think that's so crucial. 686 00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:56,540 S2: And it was good that your daughter helped you to 687 00:33:56,580 --> 00:33:57,100 S2: see that. 688 00:33:57,500 --> 00:34:00,340 S1: Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And one of these days I'll speak 689 00:34:00,340 --> 00:34:01,100 S1: to her again. 690 00:34:02,020 --> 00:34:02,980 S2: I'm kidding. 691 00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:06,060 S1: I'm kidding. Okay. May God bless you. Thank you for 692 00:34:06,060 --> 00:34:09,620 S1: calling Frans in Valparaiso, Indiana. Hi, Fran. How in the 693 00:34:09,620 --> 00:34:10,460 S1: world are you today? 694 00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:15,259 S11: Fine. Um, it's good to speak with you, Chris and 695 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,080 S11: Eva and Michael. 696 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:18,600 S2: Our pleasure. 697 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:24,800 S11: Mike. Yeah. My question is, um, about Proverbs 27 five 698 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,359 S11: better is open rebuke than hidden love. And I was 699 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,239 S11: just it's always been something that I haven't really fully understood. 700 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,839 S11: Is it is the better is the better of the 701 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:44,080 S11: two open rebuke or is or is the proverb more 702 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,840 S11: about not hiding your love? 703 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,160 S2: Yes. 704 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,359 S3: Gary Chapman, where are you? 705 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,920 S2: No, it's. Yes, it's both of them are true. Uh, 706 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,440 S2: that first of all, concealed love. And we've had that, 707 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,120 S2: you know, uh, where someone never expresses. You watched, you've 708 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,200 S2: watched those romantic comedies, and you get so frustrated because 709 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,440 S2: the the protagonist never expresses his love, you know, and 710 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,280 S2: it passes him by. And so concealed love is not good, but, uh. 711 00:35:15,460 --> 00:35:20,540 S2: So often we think a rebuke is bad, but, uh. 712 00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:21,540 S3: But the proverb. 713 00:35:21,540 --> 00:35:22,219 S2: Says. 714 00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:23,740 S3: Iron sharpens iron. 715 00:35:23,780 --> 00:35:26,180 S2: Yeah. And it also just just what you just talked 716 00:35:26,180 --> 00:35:30,580 S2: about with your daughter Chris, uh, she helped you. That 717 00:35:30,580 --> 00:35:33,940 S2: was a mini rebuke in a sense, yes. And it 718 00:35:33,940 --> 00:35:37,500 S2: was better than not saying it and growing resentment. And 719 00:35:37,540 --> 00:35:40,420 S2: it was more helpful to her. More helpful to you. 720 00:35:40,580 --> 00:35:44,420 S2: And so, uh, that's why it says that open rebuke 721 00:35:44,420 --> 00:35:47,140 S2: is better. And the caution and this is I'm going 722 00:35:47,140 --> 00:35:50,900 S2: to get preaching. Now, there are people who are really 723 00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:55,140 S2: critical and sharp and they keep quoting this verse. You know, 724 00:35:55,180 --> 00:35:57,460 S2: faithful are the wounds of a friend. A friend ought 725 00:35:57,460 --> 00:36:01,300 S2: to be very, very careful before they go to the wounds, 726 00:36:02,060 --> 00:36:05,380 S2: you know, uh, make sure that it really needs to 727 00:36:05,380 --> 00:36:10,140 S2: be said, uh, and be very, very gentle when, when 728 00:36:10,140 --> 00:36:14,000 S2: you do address an issue, uh, too often we we 729 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:19,440 S2: justify harsh words with saying open rebuke is better, you know. 730 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,120 S3: And Proverbs 1819 is a caution about that because it 731 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,600 S3: says that a brother offended is harder won than a 732 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,080 S3: strong city. Mhm. So once you offend somebody, even though 733 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,840 S3: you had the best intention, I was only trying to 734 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,560 S3: speak the truth into your life, blah, blah. You might 735 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,359 S3: not ever get them back. 736 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,359 S2: We've got all speaking the truth. But remember the rest 737 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,920 S2: of that verse in Ephesians four, speaking the truth in love. 738 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,720 S1: Yeah, yeah. 739 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,040 S2: That's it. 740 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,560 S1: Let's see you start on one of these and it'll 741 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,520 S1: lead you down the trail to something else, and then 742 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,520 S1: to what Jesus said or Paul said, or what was 743 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,920 S1: evidenced in Haggai's life, or say, I said it, write 744 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,520 S1: that down, or Moses or Joseph or whatever, you know, whomever. 745 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,000 S1: All of this fits with the rest of Scripture. You 746 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,719 S1: can't find a verse in Proverbs that you say, well, 747 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,520 S1: you know, this doesn't fit over here with what Jesus 748 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,400 S1: talked about, right? Right. I challenge you to do that, Fran. 749 00:37:11,540 --> 00:37:14,259 S1: God bless you. Thanks for calling today. And we have 750 00:37:14,260 --> 00:37:16,979 S1: more of your calls straight ahead about Proverbs in your 751 00:37:16,980 --> 00:37:31,740 S1: life on Chris Fabry live. What a treat to re-air 752 00:37:31,739 --> 00:37:35,100 S1: a conversation from many moons ago with the two rednecks. 753 00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:39,100 S1: Doctor Michael and Eva Rudnick are talking about the proverbs 754 00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:42,220 S1: today at the radio backyard fence. And if you enjoy 755 00:37:42,219 --> 00:37:44,900 S1: this program, if you benefit from it, I want to 756 00:37:44,940 --> 00:37:49,020 S1: encourage you to participate with us in this endeavor. We 757 00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:51,660 S1: call Chris Fabry live. Of course you can. Listen. That's 758 00:37:51,660 --> 00:37:54,620 S1: one level. You can then call with a question or 759 00:37:54,660 --> 00:37:58,980 S1: a comment that gets you deeper. That's participation, right? But 760 00:37:58,980 --> 00:38:02,100 S1: a gift to this program shows an even greater level 761 00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:06,100 S1: of support not only for yourself, but for others. Do 762 00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:08,339 S1: that today, I'd love to send you a copy of 763 00:38:08,340 --> 00:38:13,000 S1: Coleen Chao's excellent and moving book on our way home. 764 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,680 S1: It is our. Thank you. Right now go to chris.org. 765 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,040 S1: Scroll down. You'll see how you can give a one 766 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,640 S1: time gift or become a partner with us and give 767 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:34,760 S1: each month Chris Fabry live.org or call 866958669532279. And thanks 768 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,360 S1: for participating with us here at the radio backyard fence. 769 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,360 S1: Now back to the Proverbs. Here is young. He. 770 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:47,080 S12: Hello Chris. I want to share Proverbs 910. The fear 771 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,120 S12: of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and the 772 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,960 S12: knowledge of the Holy One is insight. The reason that 773 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:59,480 S12: this proverbs is so meaningful and difficult for me is, um, 774 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:04,440 S12: it goes back to 2013 when I and my husband 775 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,439 S12: went to China with missions mind and we met a 776 00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:12,380 S12: student and he wanted to learn English, so we invited 777 00:39:12,380 --> 00:39:14,980 S12: him to come over to our house. We would share 778 00:39:14,980 --> 00:39:20,020 S12: a meal and talk about, um, uh, life and, uh, 779 00:39:20,260 --> 00:39:24,219 S12: to teach him English. Of course, I can use my Bible. 780 00:39:24,540 --> 00:39:28,820 S12: And I didn't want to just use regular secular, uh, material. 781 00:39:29,060 --> 00:39:31,339 S12: So I pray to God and God gave me the 782 00:39:31,340 --> 00:39:35,100 S12: wisdom to use Proverbs. So hello. 783 00:39:35,260 --> 00:39:36,180 S13: Yes, yes. 784 00:39:36,340 --> 00:39:41,940 S12: So we began the sort of English study using the Proverbs. 785 00:39:42,180 --> 00:39:46,820 S12: And I just began with Proverbs of Solomon. It's um, 786 00:39:47,580 --> 00:39:51,299 S12: the wisdom it gives the wisdom. And also in the 787 00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:56,180 S12: second session, I would talk about, uh, wisdom is more 788 00:39:56,180 --> 00:40:01,180 S12: profitable than silver and yields better returns than gold. And 789 00:40:01,180 --> 00:40:07,500 S12: so we would have classes and, um, I grabbed on 790 00:40:07,550 --> 00:40:10,350 S12: this verse. The fear of the Lord is the beginning 791 00:40:10,350 --> 00:40:14,549 S12: of wisdom. And the student wanted to have wisdom. And 792 00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:18,710 S12: I was able to use this verse to connect to 793 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:26,350 S12: God where you cannot openly speak about God or Gospel. So, um, 794 00:40:26,469 --> 00:40:30,590 S12: he wanted to have wisdom. And I told him, fear 795 00:40:30,590 --> 00:40:33,270 S12: of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and the 796 00:40:33,310 --> 00:40:38,430 S12: knowledge of the Holy Spirit, uh, is, uh, insight. And 797 00:40:38,430 --> 00:40:43,110 S12: I explained what fear is. It's not being fearful. It's 798 00:40:43,110 --> 00:40:49,110 S12: having all respect, reverence toward God. And so with this 799 00:40:49,110 --> 00:40:54,390 S12: verse as a turning point, I was able to eventually 800 00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:57,710 S12: share the gospel. And he's a believer now. 801 00:40:57,750 --> 00:40:59,990 S3: Wow. Wonderful, wonderful. 802 00:41:00,710 --> 00:41:01,390 S14: Wow. Oh. 803 00:41:01,710 --> 00:41:04,670 S1: What? What was that? How long of a process, then? 804 00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:08,049 S1: And I'm sure he's asking questions of you. You know, 805 00:41:08,090 --> 00:41:11,250 S1: as you go along. But what did it take? Six months, 806 00:41:11,290 --> 00:41:11,890 S1: a year? 807 00:41:12,850 --> 00:41:18,850 S12: Um, initially it took only about a month for him 808 00:41:18,850 --> 00:41:22,009 S12: to say yes. I want to have wisdom and I 809 00:41:22,010 --> 00:41:25,129 S12: want to know more about God. And when he said, 810 00:41:25,130 --> 00:41:31,210 S12: I want to know more about God, I told them to, to, um, 811 00:41:31,850 --> 00:41:35,770 S12: to know God. You need to spend time beginning of 812 00:41:35,770 --> 00:41:38,490 S12: wisdom is to fear of God. You have to know God. 813 00:41:38,489 --> 00:41:41,850 S12: And he wanted to know God. So I was able 814 00:41:41,850 --> 00:41:46,690 S12: to use, um, um, the four spiritual laws and I 815 00:41:46,690 --> 00:41:51,330 S12: explained that and he accepted Jesus. And that process took 816 00:41:51,330 --> 00:41:52,970 S12: only about a month and a half. 817 00:41:53,010 --> 00:41:53,370 S3: Wow. 818 00:41:53,650 --> 00:41:57,770 S12: However, however, even after he would come to our house 819 00:41:57,770 --> 00:42:02,529 S12: every week on Friday, like a clockwork work, 3:00 he 820 00:42:02,530 --> 00:42:07,190 S12: would come. We would talk about how how was your week, etc.. 821 00:42:07,230 --> 00:42:12,230 S12: We would have a meal and then we would study 822 00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:18,630 S12: English or the Bible. But he had a doubt because 823 00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:23,590 S12: he's a minority people group like we do. Uh, the, 824 00:42:24,070 --> 00:42:31,070 S12: the culture is Islam. So even after he accepted Jesus, um, 825 00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:34,509 S12: the next week when I asked him, how do you feel? 826 00:42:34,750 --> 00:42:39,190 S12: He said, in my dream, my Islam grandmother showed up. 827 00:42:39,469 --> 00:42:39,870 S2: Um. 828 00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:44,910 S12: The day after he accepted Jesus and he was in agony. 829 00:42:45,230 --> 00:42:49,830 S12: I don't want to lose you, but I respect my father, 830 00:42:49,830 --> 00:42:54,390 S12: who I love. I respect his religion. So I told him, 831 00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:57,710 S12: you can still come to our house. We continue that. 832 00:42:57,750 --> 00:43:01,310 S12: We continue that over a year and a half time period. 833 00:43:01,670 --> 00:43:05,850 S12: And he is now, No. Um. He said he's a 834 00:43:05,850 --> 00:43:10,169 S12: solid believer and he does go to church. Sometimes he 835 00:43:10,170 --> 00:43:13,210 S12: misses it, but yeah. Yeah. It's. 836 00:43:13,250 --> 00:43:14,529 S13: You're talking about. 837 00:43:14,770 --> 00:43:19,490 S1: Discipleship. Young hee. And I thank you for sharing that. 838 00:43:19,489 --> 00:43:23,610 S1: And and the power of God's word. We talk about that. Michael. Eva. 839 00:43:23,650 --> 00:43:27,450 S1: There is there's real power here to penetrate, to get 840 00:43:27,450 --> 00:43:28,930 S1: deep in the heart, isn't there? 841 00:43:29,489 --> 00:43:34,810 S2: Yes. So wonderful. And I just love the the patience 842 00:43:35,090 --> 00:43:39,489 S2: that young he showed. Just start with one verse there 843 00:43:39,489 --> 00:43:44,290 S2: in Proverbs 910 and just keep talking. And then even after, uh, 844 00:43:44,410 --> 00:43:48,450 S2: this young man made this decision to keep discipling over 845 00:43:48,450 --> 00:43:51,970 S2: a year and a half, I that is too often 846 00:43:51,969 --> 00:43:56,009 S2: we become impatient and we think we want instant results. And, 847 00:43:56,010 --> 00:43:59,050 S2: and this was that's wisdom from God young he to, 848 00:43:59,090 --> 00:44:02,710 S2: to be patient and to, to just stay in that 849 00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:04,310 S2: relationship and keep working. 850 00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:05,710 S13: So okay, so. 851 00:44:05,989 --> 00:44:08,029 S1: I don't have time to be fair to Bob and 852 00:44:08,030 --> 00:44:10,430 S1: Rob and Jenny and Joanne and Jenny and all the 853 00:44:10,430 --> 00:44:12,750 S1: others who've called here. But let me ask this question 854 00:44:12,750 --> 00:44:16,030 S1: that Yunheep brings up. Uh, let's say there's somebody listening 855 00:44:16,030 --> 00:44:18,069 S1: right now who says, you folks, you know, I like 856 00:44:18,070 --> 00:44:20,350 S1: listening to you guys because I, I like to laugh 857 00:44:20,350 --> 00:44:22,310 S1: along with you when you laugh. But this Bible thing, 858 00:44:22,350 --> 00:44:25,109 S1: I don't really believe in fairy tales and all this. 859 00:44:25,150 --> 00:44:28,870 S1: And can God really change your life from the inside out? Uh, Eva. 860 00:44:28,910 --> 00:44:29,510 S1: You first. 861 00:44:29,950 --> 00:44:32,430 S3: Uh, absolutely. I think that is the way that he 862 00:44:32,430 --> 00:44:34,750 S3: does it for us. It really is from the it's 863 00:44:34,750 --> 00:44:37,270 S3: from the inside out. And I think it kind of 864 00:44:37,310 --> 00:44:40,190 S3: goes back to that verse that we talked about at 865 00:44:40,190 --> 00:44:44,150 S3: the beginning out of, uh, out of chapter 1620 about 866 00:44:44,430 --> 00:44:46,350 S3: paying attention to the word. And that's going to be 867 00:44:46,350 --> 00:44:51,270 S3: the beginning of the transformation. Mhm. Wisdom. And 318 says 868 00:44:51,310 --> 00:44:52,950 S3: it's a tree of life to those who take hold 869 00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:55,989 S3: of her. And happy are those who hold her fast. Yeah. 870 00:44:56,190 --> 00:44:58,830 S3: It's it's a change from the inside out. I'll give 871 00:44:58,830 --> 00:45:01,569 S3: you my favorite. Proverbs 418 says, the path of the 872 00:45:01,610 --> 00:45:04,730 S3: righteous is like the light of dawn that shines brighter 873 00:45:04,730 --> 00:45:08,170 S3: and brighter until the full of day. We're not there yet, 874 00:45:08,170 --> 00:45:11,810 S3: but we're moving toward that, seeing the Lord Jesus face 875 00:45:11,810 --> 00:45:15,130 S3: to face. It's the light of dawn and it's our pathway. 876 00:45:16,330 --> 00:45:18,770 S1: And aren't you glad that young he was ready to 877 00:45:18,810 --> 00:45:20,930 S1: show that light to somebody else? I think that's part 878 00:45:20,930 --> 00:45:22,529 S1: of it. You don't want to keep it to yourself, right? 879 00:45:22,650 --> 00:45:23,250 S3: Fantastic. 880 00:45:23,290 --> 00:45:24,250 S2: Yeah. It's great. 881 00:45:25,450 --> 00:45:30,010 S1: So we'll invite everybody to, um, listen to Open Line 882 00:45:30,010 --> 00:45:32,569 S1: on Moody Radio tomorrow. We didn't get to talk about 883 00:45:32,570 --> 00:45:34,770 S1: Proverbs three five and six. Let's do a whole program 884 00:45:34,770 --> 00:45:37,609 S1: just on Proverbs three, five and six. I bet we 885 00:45:37,610 --> 00:45:40,210 S1: could do it. You know, we could do this program 886 00:45:40,210 --> 00:45:43,410 S1: every day for a whole year and not exhaust just 887 00:45:43,410 --> 00:45:47,089 S1: the Proverbs one through 31. And somebody called and said, 888 00:45:47,130 --> 00:45:49,489 S1: you know, I read Proverbs one a day because there's 889 00:45:49,489 --> 00:45:52,370 S1: 31 of them. So it covers every month. That's a 890 00:45:52,370 --> 00:45:54,930 S1: good thing to do. If you're new and you say, well, 891 00:45:54,930 --> 00:45:58,130 S1: what should I do? Start there in Proverbs. And since 892 00:45:58,130 --> 00:46:02,469 S1: tomorrow is the 22nd, Read the 22nd proverb and go 893 00:46:02,469 --> 00:46:04,509 S1: back and pick up a psalm and head on into 894 00:46:04,510 --> 00:46:07,430 S1: the Gospels. You never know what's going to happen. Thanks 895 00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:08,510 S1: a lot for being with us today. 896 00:46:08,550 --> 00:46:09,350 S3: Thank you Chris. 897 00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:12,589 S1: The preceding program was aired on the 21st, which is 898 00:46:12,590 --> 00:46:15,950 S1: why I said read the 22nd proverb. Don't do that 899 00:46:15,950 --> 00:46:22,470 S1: because today is the 13th. You read the 14th proverb tomorrow. 900 00:46:22,590 --> 00:46:26,310 S1: Now we got that all straight. Was that fun? That 901 00:46:26,310 --> 00:46:29,629 S1: was a walk down memory lane with the two Riddell Nicks. 902 00:46:29,630 --> 00:46:31,550 S1: I hope you enjoyed that. I hope you will listen 903 00:46:31,550 --> 00:46:34,230 S1: to Open Line and I hope you'll have a great weekend. 904 00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:37,230 S1: And come on back to the radio backyard fence next 905 00:46:37,230 --> 00:46:41,110 S1: week for some great conversations on Chris Fabry live production 906 00:46:41,110 --> 00:46:44,470 S1: of Moody Radio, a Ministry of Moody Bible Institute.