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S7: And so he's like, yeah, I'm here for you. And

441
00:21:55,210 --> 00:21:57,770
S7: he was in jail. He said he would be free

442
00:21:57,890 --> 00:21:59,970
S7: and I didn't believe him. And the following day, he's

443
00:21:59,970 --> 00:22:02,610
S7: laying on the floor for about 45 minutes to an hour.

444
00:22:02,970 --> 00:22:05,090
S7: And he caught my attention because I asked him, what

445
00:22:05,090 --> 00:22:07,370
S7: were you doing after I had done all this stuff?

446
00:22:07,369 --> 00:22:09,850
S7: And he says, well, I was praying for you. And

447
00:22:09,850 --> 00:22:12,330
S7: I was like, you said the Our Father for an hour.

448
00:22:12,369 --> 00:22:14,010
S7: I was like, how many times did you do that?

449
00:22:14,050 --> 00:22:15,649
S9: He starts laughing at me.

450
00:22:15,850 --> 00:22:19,670
S7: And says, no, I was conversating with him and eventually

451
00:22:19,670 --> 00:22:22,390
S7: that guy would be sent home. He was innocent as

452
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:24,550
S7: he said. He just got somebody got in his car

453
00:22:24,550 --> 00:22:26,230
S7: and threw drugs that he was related.

454
00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:27,830
S9: To or he was married.

455
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:31,950
S7: To, and he was innocent. And, uh, I just knew

456
00:22:31,950 --> 00:22:33,670
S7: God was talking to me. And after that I went

457
00:22:33,670 --> 00:22:36,670
S7: and I, I was reading, uh, I started reading the Bible,

458
00:22:36,670 --> 00:22:39,389
S7: and it was kind of like Beetlejuice, where the hand

459
00:22:39,390 --> 00:22:42,390
S7: comes out from the bowl and pushes him inside the bowl.

460
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:44,550
S7: That's what happened to me with the Bible. And I've

461
00:22:44,550 --> 00:22:48,510
S7: never been the same. I've never been the same. And

462
00:22:48,510 --> 00:22:50,030
S7: so that's kind of what happened.

463
00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:53,590
S1: Wow. So, Juan, when you started reading the Bible was there,

464
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S1: you talked obviously, that was repentance when you started saying,

465
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S1: I'm sorry, that that's the working definition of repentance, but

466
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S1: can you point to a specific moment where you think

467
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S1: that's probably the moment when I asked the Lord into

468
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S1: my life, or was it just that slow recognition of

469
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S1: who you were and who you could be in Jesus?

470
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S7: Uh, you know, when you cry out and it's not

471
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,320
S7: flying everywhere. And you're like, I'm sorry for this and

472
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S7: I'm sorry for that. Um, I think somewhere in there

473
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,959
S7: I was like, I need you, you know, I need you.

474
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,440
S7: But remember, I thought he was really far away. So

475
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,760
S7: I'm like, I'm. I think I'm screaming because I'm saying,

476
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S7: I hope, I hope you could hear this, you know,

477
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,560
S7: not knowing that God is omnipresence and he is there,

478
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S7: the ever present time of need. And I am crying

479
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,520
S7: out and, uh, yeah, I, I started reading Proverbs after

480
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,960
S7: that and, uh, I didn't know that night. It was

481
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S7: just one of those nights I felt like I was

482
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,320
S7: reading and I understood what it was saying. So the

483
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S7: first time in my life I could see.

484
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S1: Wow. Oh, don't you love stories like this? I tell

485
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S1: you what a merciful God, when he says in his

486
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,639
S1: word that he's not willing that any should perish, he

487
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,160
S1: means it. Now, obviously, I'm not going to leave one

488
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,560
S1: in a prison cell reading the book of Proverbs. So

489
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S1: what happens? Because there's a long way between Texas and

490
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S1: the prison cell and Proverbs and wrapped in the Love

491
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S1: of Christ ministry. So there's still so much more to

492
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S1: this story. His new book is called Beyond the Yellow

493
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S1: Brick Road Unlocking the Promises of God. Pastor Juan Martinez

494
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S1: is with us. I'm glad I have another half hour

495
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S1: with him because there's so much more I want to

496
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S1: ask him. Stick around. When we tackle tough issues on

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S1: And if you are welcome, make yourself comfortable. But you

509
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S1: do want to hear the first half of my conversation

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S1: with Pastor Juan Martinez. And we made it easy for you.

511
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S1: This is, after all, the 21st century. So just go

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S1: a full year. So if you've missed a program or

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S1: my guest. It's all there on the website. But if

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S1: you are just joining us, let me reintroduce Juan, if

521
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S1: I can. The formal introduction again. Pastor Juan Martinez is

522
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S1: the founder of wrapped in the Love of Christ ministry.

523
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S1: When you download that first app, you're going to understand

524
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S1: why and senior pastor of Get Wrapped Church. He's an

525
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S1: inspiring coach and engaging speaker, as you can tell. For

526
00:26:04,380 --> 00:26:05,860
S1: those of you who've been with us since the start

527
00:26:05,859 --> 00:26:08,900
S1: of the hour, he works with John Maxwell's team. He's

528
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S1: appeared on TV programs. Excuse me. And he presents at

529
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S1: conferences throughout the nation. He hosts a radio program in Houston,

530
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S1: and he's a wonderful writer and the co-author of an

531
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S1: international bestseller. His brand new book, Hot Off the Presses,

532
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S1: is called Beyond the Yellow Brick Road Unlocking the Promises

533
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S1: of God. So again, for the benefit of those who've

534
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S1: just joined us, this will make sense when you download

535
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S1: the first step, but I want to pick up the

536
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,000
S1: story exactly where we were when we went to break.

537
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,280
S1: So here's this pastor, literally on the floor, praying out

538
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S1: his heart for you. You really asked for God's forgiveness,

539
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,840
S1: true repentance. You get into the Word of God, the

540
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,359
S1: idea of being sucked in. I love that word picture

541
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,200
S1: from Beetlejuice. I get it, those of you who've seen

542
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,560
S1: the movie will too. And you get right into his

543
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,000
S1: word and you understand it. Funny how that happens when

544
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,040
S1: you have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, how much

545
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,240
S1: sense His Word makes. But there's a long way, one

546
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,680
S1: from Proverbs in prison to where you are now as

547
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,920
S1: the pastor of a church. Tell me something about that journey.

548
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,889
S7: Man. You know what? It's exciting. Uh, it's it's a

549
00:27:12,890 --> 00:27:16,850
S7: very exciting journey when you're nowhere on the inside nose

550
00:27:16,850 --> 00:27:20,010
S7: after you've been reading these heavenly realities and you choose

551
00:27:20,010 --> 00:27:24,330
S7: to believe from within, uh, the journey becomes exciting. But,

552
00:27:24,369 --> 00:27:27,290
S7: you know, the minute I, I this happens, I start

553
00:27:27,290 --> 00:27:29,810
S7: getting favored, just like Joseph in the prisons. And I

554
00:27:29,810 --> 00:27:32,130
S7: start getting favor and I become head cook and all

555
00:27:32,130 --> 00:27:35,330
S7: this stuff, and I start holding, you know, I'm like,

556
00:27:35,330 --> 00:27:38,330
S7: I gotta tell everybody about Jesus. So I start, uh,

557
00:27:38,369 --> 00:27:42,730
S7: leaning on Saturdays. I start creating a, uh, prayer. Prayer

558
00:27:42,730 --> 00:27:46,010
S7: by the tree, just doing all of these things. I

559
00:27:46,010 --> 00:27:52,210
S7: began to just continually, uh, eat of the word and

560
00:27:52,290 --> 00:27:56,090
S7: all these false beliefs were challenged. Uh, you know, you know,

561
00:27:56,090 --> 00:27:59,410
S7: what's a true belief when you increase in value and growth,

562
00:27:59,450 --> 00:28:01,929
S7: you know, but when you diminish and it gets destroyed,

563
00:28:01,930 --> 00:28:05,890
S7: you know, it's a false belief. And, uh, I just

564
00:28:05,890 --> 00:28:09,020
S7: started reading and doing all of these things. And eventually,

565
00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:11,659
S7: as Jonah got spit out of the mouth of the whale,

566
00:28:11,660 --> 00:28:13,980
S7: I got spit out of the mouth of the jail.

567
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S7: And let me tell you.

568
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S10: Something, I.

569
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S7: Ran everywhere I could. Did not know what I was doing. Um,

570
00:28:21,140 --> 00:28:23,860
S7: I started sending emails, the funny part, but people just

571
00:28:23,859 --> 00:28:26,620
S7: thought I was crazy. I was sending emails to, like, uh,

572
00:28:26,660 --> 00:28:29,020
S7: Kari Jobe and all these people, right? Because I'm like,

573
00:28:29,020 --> 00:28:31,660
S7: you know what? We gotta go back into that town.

574
00:28:31,780 --> 00:28:34,300
S7: I was reading the Bible for what it was and

575
00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:38,260
S7: did not know anything about anything. So I'm like, shouldn't

576
00:28:38,260 --> 00:28:40,460
S7: we all just get together and go to the places

577
00:28:40,460 --> 00:28:44,220
S7: where there's darkness and dust and destroy it? And, uh,

578
00:28:44,260 --> 00:28:46,300
S7: then all of a sudden, I'm getting emails back. What

579
00:28:46,340 --> 00:28:48,420
S7: date and what are you? And I'm like, oh my God, okay,

580
00:28:48,420 --> 00:28:49,380
S7: this is different.

581
00:28:49,660 --> 00:28:51,500
S10: I'm thinking in the Bible.

582
00:28:52,140 --> 00:28:55,380
S7: They just went they ran into the fire. These people

583
00:28:55,380 --> 00:28:58,660
S7: were were selfless. They they they if I die, if

584
00:28:58,660 --> 00:29:01,380
S7: I perish, I perish. I'm like, that's people in the

585
00:29:01,420 --> 00:29:02,900
S7: you know, in the prison. They used to tell me, hey,

586
00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:04,940
S7: you know, when you get out there, you're gonna be

587
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,960
S7: light years ahead. And I'm like, I, I didn't understand.

588
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,920
S7: I'm like, what do you mean? They go, well, nobody

589
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,640
S7: reads their Bible out there. He's like, when you get

590
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,120
S7: out there. You've been reading your Bible every day for

591
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,600
S7: three years. For hours. He's like, man, you're gonna be

592
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,040
S7: light years ahead. And I always thought that was a

593
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,360
S7: lie until I got out here. And I started to

594
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,560
S7: realize that there's most of the time there's the two

595
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,480
S7: that see the land and the ten that see the Giants.

596
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,479
S10: Yes, sir.

597
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,320
S7: And, uh, since then, man, I, you know, I came

598
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,080
S7: out and I, you know, would help. And, you know,

599
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,520
S7: I just would join everything I could to stay connected

600
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,239
S7: because I knew I you I feel like a lot

601
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,479
S7: of times you continue in the truth and that's what

602
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,000
S7: sets you free. But in that you begin to identify lies.

603
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,520
S7: And if you don't identify, identify a lie. There's a

604
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S7: lie that you might have considered the truth. And so

605
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,760
S7: when I get out, I start a Bible study and

606
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,810
S7: this in a in an apartment complex. Well, I get

607
00:30:04,810 --> 00:30:07,490
S7: the manager saved first. And once I got the manager saved,

608
00:30:07,490 --> 00:30:09,090
S7: she was like, do you want to start a Bible study?

609
00:30:09,090 --> 00:30:12,290
S7: Which was amazing. And, uh, then we get the other

610
00:30:12,290 --> 00:30:14,890
S7: manager saved and now the general manager saved, plus the

611
00:30:14,890 --> 00:30:18,050
S7: manager saved. And then we started Bible study with eight people,

612
00:30:18,050 --> 00:30:22,250
S7: and it starts growing out of control. Um, we definitely

613
00:30:22,250 --> 00:30:27,290
S7: did not have a plant church plant manual. We laughed

614
00:30:27,330 --> 00:30:31,090
S7: till today. Uh, we've broken every rule there is to

615
00:30:31,090 --> 00:30:34,930
S7: church planting. Uh, I did not know how to church plant.

616
00:30:34,930 --> 00:30:36,770
S7: I would call people and go, I don't know, but

617
00:30:36,770 --> 00:30:39,650
S7: I think I'm pastoring now. This thing is growing. And

618
00:30:39,650 --> 00:30:41,610
S7: there was about a hundred and some people, we're starting

619
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S7: to see all kinds of stuff we're hitting. We're running

620
00:30:44,530 --> 00:30:48,370
S7: at the Giants. We're looking at every single giant bringing

621
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S7: our bag of stones and throwing stones at Giants. We

622
00:30:51,410 --> 00:30:53,930
S7: run into the fire and we still do till today.

623
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S7: And in that.

624
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S10: Moment.

625
00:30:55,210 --> 00:30:58,210
S7: You know, we just kept growing and. And now we

626
00:30:58,210 --> 00:31:01,580
S7: have a gift wrapped church in spring. We just launched

627
00:31:01,580 --> 00:31:03,460
S7: in the middle of a pandemic. Somebody told me that.

628
00:31:03,460 --> 00:31:05,100
S7: That makes no sense. Why would you launch a church

629
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:06,980
S7: in the middle of a pandemic? I said, we need

630
00:31:06,980 --> 00:31:08,740
S7: to run into the fire. And so now we have

631
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S7: a growing church in the middle of a pandemic on

632
00:31:11,140 --> 00:31:13,140
S7: the other side of Houston. And then we have a

633
00:31:13,140 --> 00:31:16,460
S7: small church in New London, Connecticut. And all of these

634
00:31:16,460 --> 00:31:20,940
S7: things have happened since we've came out and began to walk. Oh,

635
00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:25,420
S7: by the way, uh, I met a guy named Jonathan

636
00:31:25,420 --> 00:31:29,100
S7: that walked in while I was in prison, and I

637
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:32,260
S7: wasn't a very good father until I met the father

638
00:31:32,260 --> 00:31:36,860
S7: who taught me how to be a father. And this Jonathan,

639
00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:38,660
S7: I said he walked in and said, what's your name?

640
00:31:38,660 --> 00:31:41,220
S7: He said, Jonathan. Now I said to myself, man, my

641
00:31:41,220 --> 00:31:43,940
S7: son's name is Jonathan. I'm gonna disciple this guy like

642
00:31:43,940 --> 00:31:47,420
S7: he's my son. And I began to disciple him later. Uh,

643
00:31:47,420 --> 00:31:50,660
S7: in life, I would marry his mom named Ruthie.

644
00:31:51,220 --> 00:31:54,100
S10: That's a whole nother story. So when I get out

645
00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:54,460
S10: and I.

646
00:31:54,460 --> 00:31:57,140
S7: And I'm dealing this with Baby Ruth, and it's the

647
00:31:57,140 --> 00:31:59,880
S7: first woman who I've ever honored and respected, we waited

648
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,320
S7: until we got married, which was the hardest thing I've

649
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:02,920
S7: ever done.

650
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,240
S10: And, uh.

651
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,400
S7: That was harder than leaving drugs, you know?

652
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:11,720
S10: I was like, man, I'm like, Lord, that's hard. And, uh,

653
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,280
S10: you know.

654
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,000
S7: We have an incredible relationship because of it. Because I

655
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,520
S7: just wanted to know if I did things God's way,

656
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,040
S7: the God way. Will it work? And today, we're happily married.

657
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,480
S7: We have the. I call ourselves the Hispanic Brady Bunch.

658
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:28,080
S7: We have six children and, uh, two jonathans, by the way. And, uh,

659
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:33,360
S7: we have just been going after it. Um, it was

660
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,920
S7: very difficult the first nine months that I got out,

661
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,560
S7: but I always heard a voice in my wilderness, and

662
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:45,560
S7: I continued to prepare the way for the Lord internally. And,

663
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,040
S7: you know, even with the book thing, I decided to

664
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:55,480
S7: dedicate the book to all the people who are incarcerated.

665
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,120
S1: Yes.

666
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:56,720
S10: And all the.

667
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,930
S7: People who have incarcerated themselves internally, because sometimes we think

668
00:33:00,930 --> 00:33:03,690
S7: that incarceration is just bars. No, but there's a lot

669
00:33:03,690 --> 00:33:06,690
S7: of people see, those people are incarcerated. Those people are

670
00:33:06,690 --> 00:33:09,730
S7: incarcerated not because they got incarcerated for doing something wrong.

671
00:33:09,770 --> 00:33:13,130
S7: They were incarcerated before they got incarcerated because they were

672
00:33:13,130 --> 00:33:14,730
S7: already wrong on the inside.

673
00:33:15,530 --> 00:33:17,410
S10: Mhm. And it led them.

674
00:33:17,410 --> 00:33:19,969
S7: All to prison. And I always tell the guys I go,

675
00:33:19,970 --> 00:33:22,250
S7: you think that when you leave the door that you're

676
00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:24,930
S7: going to be free. You're not free until you let

677
00:33:24,930 --> 00:33:27,330
S7: him in the door internally.

678
00:33:27,730 --> 00:33:28,410
S1: Yes.

679
00:33:28,450 --> 00:33:29,810
S10: You know, and um.

680
00:33:30,530 --> 00:33:33,250
S7: We're, we're actually look, we're trying to put a book

681
00:33:33,290 --> 00:33:42,050
S7: in 124,115. People always say one. Why? Because there's 124,115

682
00:33:42,170 --> 00:33:44,370
S7: inmates in the state of Texas. So for every book

683
00:33:44,370 --> 00:33:46,570
S7: that is bought, we're giving away a book. In the

684
00:33:46,570 --> 00:33:50,290
S7: last two weeks, we've given books to three men's programs,

685
00:33:50,290 --> 00:33:54,130
S7: discipleship for addictions. And we've given away one for women's program.

686
00:33:54,410 --> 00:33:58,220
S7: And we've done, two prisons in Texas already, and with

687
00:33:58,220 --> 00:34:00,620
S7: a list to go. And I just want to see

688
00:34:00,620 --> 00:34:01,980
S7: the captives set free.

689
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:03,060
S10: And I believe.

690
00:34:03,060 --> 00:34:03,300
S1: That.

691
00:34:03,740 --> 00:34:04,100
S10: Just.

692
00:34:04,420 --> 00:34:06,060
S7: You to get you know, I'm like, God put it

693
00:34:06,060 --> 00:34:08,140
S7: in my heart. So I'm like, great, I'll give a

694
00:34:08,140 --> 00:34:10,500
S7: book for every book. And so that's what we're doing.

695
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:13,740
S7: We're trying to get people to see that the storm.

696
00:34:13,739 --> 00:34:15,339
S7: It's like I always tell people who told you that

697
00:34:15,340 --> 00:34:16,460
S7: the storm was bad.

698
00:34:18,380 --> 00:34:20,060
S10: Sometimes the storm is.

699
00:34:20,060 --> 00:34:22,540
S7: Bad, but it's in those moments where we're able to

700
00:34:22,580 --> 00:34:28,859
S7: pull on a promise and the storm elevates you. But

701
00:34:28,860 --> 00:34:30,299
S7: a lot of times we don't look at it like that.

702
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:34,660
S7: So we run away and we hide. When you have

703
00:34:34,660 --> 00:34:36,739
S7: the the living Christ on the inside of you that

704
00:34:36,739 --> 00:34:38,700
S7: is able to do exceedingly and abundantly more than we

705
00:34:38,700 --> 00:34:41,420
S7: could hope, think, or imagine that can put a muzzle

706
00:34:41,460 --> 00:34:45,980
S7: on any storm. And yes, sometimes they're difficult. And yes,

707
00:34:45,980 --> 00:34:49,900
S7: you go through pain. But the reality is that in

708
00:34:49,900 --> 00:34:52,219
S7: all you know, I, I, I think in the book I,

709
00:34:52,219 --> 00:34:54,680
S7: I put a little bit about Hurricane Harvey. And when

710
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,800
S7: it hit us as a storm.

711
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:56,799
S1: Yes.

712
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,399
S10: And, uh.

713
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,520
S7: I had everything. It was the first time, you know,

714
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,680
S7: I'm from New York, uh, Hoboken, New York City area,

715
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,040
S7: so I never thought I only saw it on TV.

716
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,319
S7: The people on the boat getting rescued, I I'm like, man,

717
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,040
S7: I feel like I'm in a third world country. I

718
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,280
S7: was like, I've had my backpack and a couple of things.

719
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,680
S7: And I thought to myself, man, God, I am gonna

720
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,680
S7: lose everything. And I heard a still small voice, tell

721
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,440
S7: me you are.

722
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,160
S10: See, sometimes.

723
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,080
S7: We until you're in a time like that. You think

724
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,600
S7: you're losing everything. And sometimes we just focus so much

725
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,719
S7: on the storm. We forget to look within. To wake

726
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,439
S7: up the Jesus that is in the vessel. So that.

727
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,040
S10: He can.

728
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,600
S7: Properly tell us what is the value out of that storm.

729
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,840
S7: No matter how hard it is.

730
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:42,919
S10: He always has.

731
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,799
S7: A promise and an.

732
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,320
S10: Answer. And that's been my journey since I've gotten out.

733
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,170
S1: Wow. And I just love it, Juan. Because as the

734
00:35:52,170 --> 00:35:54,129
S1: scriptures say, out of the abundance of the heart, the

735
00:35:54,130 --> 00:35:57,489
S1: mouth speaks. I love, love, love that you're encouraging us

736
00:35:57,489 --> 00:36:00,730
S1: to run into the fire rather than run away from it.

737
00:36:00,730 --> 00:36:03,530
S1: And you use this marvelous word picture of the Wizard

738
00:36:03,530 --> 00:36:05,729
S1: of Oz, the storm. Remember? How does it start? Right?

739
00:36:05,730 --> 00:36:09,050
S1: Frank Baum's classic it's a tornado, right? There's a storm

740
00:36:09,050 --> 00:36:12,650
S1: that takes her on this discovery that she has. Well,

741
00:36:12,650 --> 00:36:17,730
S1: she also talked about courage and a heart and a brain. Now,

742
00:36:17,730 --> 00:36:19,890
S1: how does that all work? We'll find out from Pastor

743
00:36:19,890 --> 00:36:42,450
S1: Juan Martinez right after this. Isn't this a wonderful story?

744
00:36:42,450 --> 00:36:45,290
S1: I just I love, love, love hearing how God works

745
00:36:45,290 --> 00:36:49,890
S1: in and through other people, how he makes himself known,

746
00:36:49,890 --> 00:36:53,060
S1: how he rescues and pursues us, and how he can

747
00:36:53,060 --> 00:36:56,219
S1: put fire in your bones. There is nobody listening to

748
00:36:56,260 --> 00:36:59,500
S1: this conversation who can't say that. Juan Martinez is what

749
00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:00,980
S1: we used to call when I was a kid growing up,

750
00:37:00,980 --> 00:37:03,980
S1: an on fire believer that he really and truly cares

751
00:37:03,980 --> 00:37:05,980
S1: about people. In fact, Juan, I promise you, when you

752
00:37:05,980 --> 00:37:08,540
S1: started talking about who you had the book dedicated to,

753
00:37:08,780 --> 00:37:10,900
S1: I had my finger on the dedication page because I

754
00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:12,740
S1: was going to ask you about that. I just loved

755
00:37:12,739 --> 00:37:14,980
S1: the fact that you talk about those who are in

756
00:37:14,980 --> 00:37:18,740
S1: literal prison and prisons of their own building, that God

757
00:37:18,739 --> 00:37:21,460
S1: can set us free. So you talked about the blessings

758
00:37:21,460 --> 00:37:23,779
S1: found in a storm, and isn't it interesting how many

759
00:37:23,780 --> 00:37:26,140
S1: times in Scripture we read about storms? There's so many

760
00:37:26,140 --> 00:37:30,739
S1: significant stories and lessons and revelations of the characteristics of

761
00:37:30,739 --> 00:37:33,060
S1: God that can be found in a storm. Just just

762
00:37:33,060 --> 00:37:35,460
S1: do a storm. Study in Scripture sometime. It's fascinating in

763
00:37:35,460 --> 00:37:37,620
S1: and of itself. But you tied this back to the

764
00:37:37,620 --> 00:37:40,940
S1: Wizard of Oz. So three things, right? Dorothy runs into

765
00:37:40,940 --> 00:37:43,219
S1: three characters that represent the idea of if I only

766
00:37:43,219 --> 00:37:45,299
S1: had a brain, I've only had a heart, and if

767
00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:48,100
S1: I only had courage, as the lion said, how does

768
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,120
S1: that work and what God has taught you?

769
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,640
S7: Oh, yes. Well, let me take you on the journey.

770
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,320
S7: So as a kid, we all remember the Wizard of Oz.

771
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,799
S7: And now let me share with you kind of how

772
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,399
S7: this happened. So I'm praying one day, and I feel

773
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,160
S7: like God starts to speak to me about the streets

774
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,279
S7: of gold in heaven. And, you know, obviously, I think

775
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,840
S7: a lot there's a lot of people that are confessing

776
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,200
S7: with their mouth, but with their hearts, they're not believing.

777
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,120
S7: But the moment you begin to believe in your heart

778
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,879
S7: and you begin to confess with your mouth what is

779
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,920
S7: in your heart, that's how you get in the direction.

780
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,440
S7: And I feel like he showed me these bricks coming

781
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,480
S7: from heaven. And that's the, the, the truth that lights

782
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,760
S7: the lamp unto your feet.

783
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:24,919
S11: So all of a sudden.

784
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,120
S7: I'm talking about it, and I feel like while I'm talking,

785
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,840
S7: it just starts coming out and the Lord shows me this.

786
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,960
S7: Do you remember Dorothy? She is going through all this trouble,

787
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,439
S7: and they're saying, Dorothy, you know, she should be more

788
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,320
S7: bold because she's afraid of the lady who's taking the dog,

789
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,240
S7: who she considers a witch, and she doesn't have the courage,

790
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,640
S7: and she's always worrying. And so she goes, uh, as

791
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,450
S7: most believers do. And she goes, you know, I just

792
00:38:48,450 --> 00:38:50,850
S7: want to go somewhere far, far away. Somewhere far from

793
00:38:50,850 --> 00:38:53,730
S7: the trouble. Somewhere where the plane could come, no train.

794
00:38:53,730 --> 00:38:57,730
S7: And she goes into that wonderful song Somewhere Over the Rainbow.

795
00:38:57,730 --> 00:38:59,650
S11: Remember that? And yes.

796
00:39:00,210 --> 00:39:03,089
S7: At that moment, somewhere. See, it's not enough to just

797
00:39:03,090 --> 00:39:06,490
S7: have the promises you have to. Somewhere over the rainbow

798
00:39:06,650 --> 00:39:10,170
S7: is that heavenly place. You have to walk it out.

799
00:39:10,210 --> 00:39:13,089
S7: Not only do you know, but you walk it out.

800
00:39:13,090 --> 00:39:15,850
S7: And that's actually where you get the wisdom from. Now,

801
00:39:15,850 --> 00:39:19,370
S7: the amazing thing is, at that moment she, instead of

802
00:39:19,370 --> 00:39:21,770
S7: avoiding it, a storm comes. Now what hits her in

803
00:39:21,770 --> 00:39:24,170
S7: the head? She sees through the storm. She sees all

804
00:39:24,170 --> 00:39:26,130
S7: the people that she loves. And then the wicked witch

805
00:39:26,170 --> 00:39:28,969
S7: flies through the window. Because that's where we see is

806
00:39:28,969 --> 00:39:31,770
S7: the window. And it hits her in the head. She

807
00:39:31,810 --> 00:39:35,170
S7: winds up landing in a place called Oz I call

808
00:39:35,170 --> 00:39:38,290
S7: the heavenlies. And in this place the house lands on

809
00:39:38,290 --> 00:39:40,690
S7: the thing. And she gets to what? The ruby red slippers.

810
00:39:40,690 --> 00:39:43,250
S7: What are the ruby red slippers? The ruby red slippers?

811
00:39:43,250 --> 00:39:46,500
S7: That's the blood of Jesus. And so the the the

812
00:39:46,540 --> 00:39:49,299
S7: Glinda the Good Witch, she is actually the Holy Spirit.

813
00:39:49,620 --> 00:39:52,180
S7: And she comes and she guides her throughout the whole

814
00:39:52,180 --> 00:39:55,339
S7: entire journey. And do you remember, she says, how do

815
00:39:55,380 --> 00:39:57,020
S7: where do I start? She says, start right here in

816
00:39:57,020 --> 00:40:00,100
S7: the beginning. And they start singing follow the yellow brick road.

817
00:40:00,140 --> 00:40:01,340
S7: Follow the yellow brick road.

818
00:40:01,580 --> 00:40:03,900
S11: Follow the follow the follow. And they all.

819
00:40:03,940 --> 00:40:06,860
S7: Go walking down the yellow brick road. Now in this

820
00:40:06,860 --> 00:40:09,900
S7: road they know that they're trying to get the answer.

821
00:40:10,780 --> 00:40:12,739
S7: The whole road is about getting the answer. Now, do

822
00:40:12,739 --> 00:40:15,820
S7: you remember when she went to go get the answer?

823
00:40:15,820 --> 00:40:18,140
S7: She knocked on the door and she couldn't get in.

824
00:40:18,180 --> 00:40:21,259
S7: See axis. When she he opened the door again. He

825
00:40:21,260 --> 00:40:23,180
S7: looked down and saw the shoes. The only way you

826
00:40:23,180 --> 00:40:25,940
S7: get access into the heavenlies is by way of the death,

827
00:40:25,940 --> 00:40:28,540
S7: the burial and the resurrection. Only through the blood of

828
00:40:28,540 --> 00:40:31,820
S7: Christ can you get the access into the heavenly of heavenlies,

829
00:40:31,820 --> 00:40:34,620
S7: where you have all the answers. It's in our community.

830
00:40:35,140 --> 00:40:37,180
S7: And so what winds up is she goes in there

831
00:40:37,180 --> 00:40:38,859
S7: and what does he do? He tells her to go

832
00:40:38,860 --> 00:40:41,779
S7: get the the broom from the witch. So they're all

833
00:40:41,780 --> 00:40:45,759
S7: freaking out. They're all shaking. The scarecrow and the lion,

834
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,760
S7: the Tin Man, and they all go back to get it.

835
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,160
S7: And when she gets there, this is the part that

836
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,879
S7: God began to speak to me as well. She gets

837
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,520
S7: there and all of a sudden she's like, give me

838
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,239
S7: the shoes, give me the shoes. And Dorothy never gives

839
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,279
S7: her the shoes and what we do, the Lord said

840
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,799
S7: to me, he said, Juan, what happens is this we

841
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,440
S7: give the authority away. Dorothy never gave her the shoes.

842
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,319
S7: She kept the shoes on her feet. What we do

843
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,399
S7: as believers is that we give away the authority to

844
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,400
S7: the insecurities, or to the pride, or to whatever is

845
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,359
S7: haunting and haunting us. We give away the shoes. We

846
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,040
S7: give the authority. What what she does is she goes

847
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,120
S7: around and she grabs the bucket of water, which I

848
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,960
S7: see the water as one word. Come on, one word

849
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,719
S7: from God can change everything. She throws the bucket of

850
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,040
S7: water on the witch and she goes.

851
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,880
S12: I'm melting, I'm melting.

852
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,120
S11: She goes down to nothing. And then you.

853
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,920
S7: Think that all of these minions are going to beat

854
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,010
S7: them up? And no, that's not what happens. They say

855
00:41:43,450 --> 00:41:46,089
S7: thank you. You have freed us all. And the Lord

856
00:41:46,090 --> 00:41:47,970
S7: began to speak to me. He said, when you face

857
00:41:47,969 --> 00:41:51,050
S7: what you face, and you're blessed as Abraham was, blessed

858
00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:54,170
S7: was to be a blessing. When you face that insecurity,

859
00:41:54,210 --> 00:41:56,410
S7: or you face that pride, or you face that addiction

860
00:41:56,410 --> 00:41:58,730
S7: or that thing that's been giving you the comfort that

861
00:41:58,730 --> 00:42:01,770
S7: keeps destroying you when you face it and you destroy it,

862
00:42:01,810 --> 00:42:04,530
S7: not only do you get set free, but everyone around

863
00:42:04,530 --> 00:42:06,969
S7: you begins to get free because they begin to see

864
00:42:06,969 --> 00:42:09,890
S7: the way you walk. And then what happens is they

865
00:42:09,890 --> 00:42:12,130
S7: go back. They take the thing, and all of a

866
00:42:12,130 --> 00:42:15,170
S7: sudden there's a balloon and the balloon starts leaving. And

867
00:42:15,170 --> 00:42:18,450
S7: she's like, where are you going? And he's like, I'm sorry.

868
00:42:18,770 --> 00:42:21,410
S7: And the, the, the. She starts to cry and get

869
00:42:21,410 --> 00:42:24,610
S7: upset because there's no place like home. She's she wants

870
00:42:24,610 --> 00:42:27,810
S7: to go home. She home, I believe, is the dwelling

871
00:42:27,810 --> 00:42:30,570
S7: place in your heart where you bring heaven. See, once

872
00:42:30,570 --> 00:42:33,089
S7: you begin to get mature, you stop waiting for things

873
00:42:33,090 --> 00:42:36,050
S7: to come down from heaven because you understand that within

874
00:42:36,050 --> 00:42:38,730
S7: you have heaven. And that's exactly what the Holy Spirit

875
00:42:38,820 --> 00:42:41,100
S7: says to her. See, the Lord spoke to me, and

876
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:43,540
S7: he said, Juan, the reason the balloon is because there's

877
00:42:43,540 --> 00:42:45,940
S7: no man made way that can get you to your destiny.

878
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:49,459
S7: And all of a sudden, the Glinda the Good Witch

879
00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:52,180
S7: goes behind and she says, you always had the power. See,

880
00:42:52,219 --> 00:42:56,020
S7: in Peter it says, you always had the power for divine.

881
00:42:56,700 --> 00:42:58,660
S7: You had the divine power in a way of escape,

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S7: of corruption. And she says three times through the blood

883
00:43:02,860 --> 00:43:07,540
S7: of Christ, she says, the father, the son, the Holy Spirit.

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S7: And then she winds up. Where? Home.

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S1: Home. Wow.

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S7: Yeah.

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S1: Wow. Wow. What a wonderfully creative way, Juan, to look

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S1: at all of the things that Christ has done again in,

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S1: for and through us, and the blood of Christ. And

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S1: that is our entrance into getting back home again. What

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00:43:28,739 --> 00:43:32,180
S1: a fascinating story. Juan. Thank you. May God just open

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S1: wide the doors of opportunity for you to tell your

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S1: story again and again and again. Thank you for your heart,

894
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,319
S1: by the way. For those who incarcerated, we know how

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00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,000
S1: many people in prison listen to Christian radio and were

896
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,080
S1: sort of a lifeline to them. And we love them

897
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,680
S1: and cherish them greatly. God bless the men and women

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S1: who are involved in prison ministries, who are going in

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S1: and sharing the truth with broken people. And I love

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00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,560
S1: what you're doing with the book. Everyone bought another one's

901
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,799
S1: going to be given away, so who knows, maybe they'll

902
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,680
S1: discover in the midst of their storm who they really are,

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S1: and that they, just like Dorothy, will discover there's no

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S1: place like home. Blessings to you on! I have so

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S1: enjoyed this hour. I want you to learn more about

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S1: Pastor Juan Martinez. So go to our website in the

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S1: market with Janet Parshall. Click on that red box. It

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00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,520
S1: says Program details and audio takes you right over to

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S1: the information page. You're going to learn more about Juan

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S1: fabulous website. He's got a bunch of his sermons there.

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S1: And on the right hand side beyond the Yellow Brick Road,

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S1: his brand new book. Thank you so much for joining us, friends,

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S1: and we'll see you next time right here on In

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S1: the Market with Janet Parshall.