WEBVTT - Hour 1: Your Mailbag Questions 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:13.220 Today we're celebrating a new holiday. It's clear the Spindle Day, 0:00:13.220 --> 0:00:16.760 also known as empty the inbox day. It's an all 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:20.390 mail bag all the time episode of Open Line. We've 0:00:20.390 --> 0:00:23.090 got the questions you've sent us about the Bible, God 0:00:23.090 --> 0:00:25.670 and the spiritual life, and we're getting ready to address 0:00:25.670 --> 0:00:28.580 them right now. So hang tight. We're going to get 0:00:28.580 --> 0:00:32.330 to those in just a moment. Hello, everyone. Welcome to 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:35.660 Open Line with Doctor Michael right. Zelnick Moody Radio's Bible 0:00:35.659 --> 0:00:38.930 study Across America. My name is Michael right Melnick and 0:00:38.930 --> 0:00:42.260 I'm professor of Jewish studies and Bible at Moody Bible Institute. 0:00:42.260 --> 0:00:45.080 And I'm here today and every Saturday to do my 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:48.470 best to answer your questions about the scriptures. Normally, the 0:00:48.500 --> 0:00:51.470 bulk of this program is taking your phone calls. Not 0:00:51.470 --> 0:00:56.060 so today. Today it's all mailbag, all the time. The 0:00:56.060 --> 0:00:58.190 best way to be in touch with us is via 0:00:58.190 --> 0:01:02.420 our website, Open line radio.org. If you go there, it 0:01:02.420 --> 0:01:05.120 has links to anything you might need, whether it's email 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.640 or Twitter or Facebook, you can reach us that way. 0:01:07.670 --> 0:01:12.470 It also has links to past programs. It has links 0:01:12.470 --> 0:01:16.190 to various issues that that you might find helpful. 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Glad you're here today, Eva. 0:01:46.550 --> 0:01:47.840 Hey, it's fun to be here, Michael. 0:01:47.870 --> 0:01:50.180 You know, usually you just have to text the answers 0:01:50.180 --> 0:01:52.370 into me. So today, you can just jump right in and. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:53.540 Write them a big piece of paper and hold it. 0:01:53.540 --> 0:01:56.210 Up. That's right. It'll make me sound better if you 0:01:56.210 --> 0:01:59.410 do it that way. Anyway. Also joining us is the 0:01:59.410 --> 0:02:02.080 person who makes everything happen on Open Line, who put 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:05.830 together the the mailbag for today. The person who lets 0:02:05.830 --> 0:02:07.570 me know when I'm supposed to be and where I'm 0:02:07.570 --> 0:02:10.000 supposed to be and when it's supposed to be, and 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.220 all the things that she does that just keeps this 0:02:12.220 --> 0:02:15.490 program on target. That's Tricia McMillan, producer of Open Line. 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:16.000 Yay! 0:02:16.030 --> 0:02:16.930 Glad you're here, Tricia. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:17.830 I'm glad to be here. 0:02:17.860 --> 0:02:21.430 You have so many questions you've put together here. Uh. 0:02:22.030 --> 0:02:25.600 I don't have these questions. Well, you didn't make these up. 0:02:25.630 --> 0:02:28.600 I didn't. These are all questions that you, the listener, 0:02:28.630 --> 0:02:31.090 have sent us. Okay, so we've got a we've got 0:02:31.090 --> 0:02:32.170 a whole lot of them. 0:02:32.169 --> 0:02:35.740 We're going to have to get another spindle day soon. Yes. Yeah. Well, anyway, 0:02:36.190 --> 0:02:37.690 we're going to do our best to get through these 0:02:37.690 --> 0:02:40.060 as best we can. Well, now's the time to go 0:02:40.060 --> 0:02:42.610 get your Bible. Hope you have your cup of coffee 0:02:42.940 --> 0:02:46.390 and head over to the radio. The radio kitchen table, 0:02:46.389 --> 0:02:51.850 as we say. We're going to talk about the scriptures. Okay. So, uh, 0:02:51.850 --> 0:02:55.360 let's start what's what's you've ordered them. You ask. 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.100 Them. All right. We're going to start in Genesis. 0:02:57.130 --> 0:02:58.270 Okay. That's a good place to start. 0:02:58.300 --> 0:03:02.260 Sylvia from Glenview, Illinois, listens to WNBA, says our Bible 0:03:02.260 --> 0:03:06.010 study is on the Temptations in chapter three of Genesis. 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:10.180 What are the underlying categories of the devil's temptations to Eve? 0:03:10.210 --> 0:03:13.960 She's heard that the first one is, in general, the 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.120 temptation of appetite. That is, that the tree was good 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.730 for food. The second one that the tree was a 0:03:18.730 --> 0:03:21.190 delight to look at, is the temptation of the eyes. 0:03:21.190 --> 0:03:23.650 And the third one, the tree, was desirable for obtaining 0:03:23.650 --> 0:03:26.769 wisdom is the coveting of the knowledge of God. She's 0:03:26.770 --> 0:03:30.250 not sure if those are accurate categories, and wanted to 0:03:30.250 --> 0:03:32.109 know what you think that the categories represent. 0:03:32.139 --> 0:03:36.880 I think the best way to look at the categories 0:03:36.910 --> 0:03:42.040 is in first John chapter two, verse 16. Uh, where 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:45.850 I think it's exactly related to Genesis three. It says, 0:03:45.850 --> 0:03:48.820 for all that is in the world, the lust of 0:03:48.820 --> 0:03:52.270 the flesh, that has to do with desire when we 0:03:52.270 --> 0:03:54.850 talk about the lust of the flesh is God has 0:03:54.850 --> 0:03:59.770 built us with desires, and those desires get out of whack. 0:04:00.220 --> 0:04:04.240 They get distorted. And that's what's called the flesh. The 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.840 desire that, I mean, desire is normal. Desire to eat, 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.020 for example. Appetite would be normal. But to desire to 0:04:11.050 --> 0:04:14.380 eat something we shouldn't eat, like gluttony, that would be 0:04:14.380 --> 0:04:18.040 the flesh. And so the lust of the flesh, it 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.730 says the lust of the eyes. That's where we see something, 0:04:21.730 --> 0:04:25.930 and we want it. The desire of the eyes. Uh, 0:04:25.930 --> 0:04:31.089 and then the boastful pride of life, the the fruit 0:04:31.089 --> 0:04:35.409 was desirable to make someone wise. I want to be 0:04:35.410 --> 0:04:38.620 wise like God. I want to be really wise, is 0:04:38.620 --> 0:04:42.370 what the temptation was. And so those are the three categories. Now, 0:04:42.370 --> 0:04:46.570 what I think is every temptation we face. And I'm 0:04:46.570 --> 0:04:48.729 wondering if Eva wants to add to this, but I 0:04:48.730 --> 0:04:52.150 think this is true. Every temptation we face is in 0:04:52.150 --> 0:04:54.609 one of those three categories, wouldn't you say? 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.880 I think so, too. Yeah. Um, and, you know, sometimes 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:02.650 they you hear on on fortune cookies or whatever. It's 0:05:02.650 --> 0:05:04.719 like there's the world, the flesh and the devil. 0:05:04.750 --> 0:05:08.440 Yeah. Well, that's the three. That's the that's the three 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:12.250 areas of warfare that we face. But this is the flesh. 0:05:12.430 --> 0:05:20.950 The flesh is pride. It's a visual desire and physical desire. 0:05:20.980 --> 0:05:23.920 And all three of those things. And of course, Galatians 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.440 five talks about the what comes out of that. The 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.710 the fruit of the flesh versus the fruit of the spirit. 0:05:29.710 --> 0:05:31.810 So great. 0:05:31.900 --> 0:05:33.969 Well, thank you for that. Thanks for your question, Sylvia. 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.929 Our next question is from Marilyn in Florida. Listen to 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:42.039 this one. She says, why would an all knowing God 0:05:42.070 --> 0:05:45.159 bother with a flood when he knew ahead of time 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:48.520 the depravity of mankind would again take hold? Are we 0:05:48.550 --> 0:05:50.770 to believe that because Noah was God fearing that his 0:05:50.770 --> 0:05:53.630 progeny would be less depraved? Love your program and I 0:05:53.630 --> 0:05:55.730 thank you ahead of time for your answer. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:01.190 Would Noah's progeny be less depraved? Apparently not, because we 0:06:01.190 --> 0:06:03.500 see what happens almost immediately, right? 0:06:03.500 --> 0:06:05.990 So why even bother with a flood to wipe it out? 0:06:06.020 --> 0:06:08.840 Yeah, well, apparently it was getting so bad that he 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.210 was going to to judge the world in that way 0:06:11.210 --> 0:06:16.400 and start again. Uh. Did it. I don't know why. 0:06:16.430 --> 0:06:19.010 God in his sovereignty. Maybe he saw that it was 0:06:19.010 --> 0:06:21.500 worse even then, and it was headed for a worse 0:06:21.500 --> 0:06:26.330 self-destruction than what happened afterwards and what has continued since 0:06:26.330 --> 0:06:30.590 the days of Noah. I don't know, God knows. But 0:06:30.589 --> 0:06:34.219 the thing is, it says in Genesis six, I believe 0:06:34.220 --> 0:06:37.190 that the Lord regretted that he made man, that he 0:06:37.190 --> 0:06:43.849 made humanity. I don't think that God really regrets things. 0:06:44.300 --> 0:06:48.440 In numbers 23 it says that God doesn't change his mind. 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.419 It says God is not a man, that he would 0:06:51.420 --> 0:06:55.169 change his mind. And so it seems to me that 0:06:55.170 --> 0:06:57.480 God knew exactly what he was doing. He knew exactly 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.460 what was going to come out of this. And he 0:06:59.460 --> 0:07:03.060 uses that phrase of regret for having made man, and 0:07:03.060 --> 0:07:05.010 then he's going to destroy the world with a flood. 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:10.380 That means that he's using anthropomorphisms. That's a figure of 0:07:10.380 --> 0:07:17.160 speech where it attributes human characteristics to God. And so 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.550 God knows everything that's going to happen. Uh, he's judging 0:07:20.550 --> 0:07:24.510 the world for that. Uh, and then he's going to rebuild. 0:07:24.510 --> 0:07:29.640 And I think what we see is there's something that 0:07:29.730 --> 0:07:33.480 experts at narrative in the Bible have pointed out that 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.720 there's a literary technique that's called recursion, which is a 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:37.920 big way of saying repetition. 0:07:38.220 --> 0:07:38.790 Over and over. 0:07:39.060 --> 0:07:43.140 Over and over it recurs. And so what you have 0:07:43.170 --> 0:07:48.420 is God plants a garden and he places Adam and 0:07:48.420 --> 0:07:51.780 Eve in there. He tells them to be fruitful and multiply. 0:07:51.810 --> 0:07:55.020 He gives them everything that they could possibly want, and 0:07:55.020 --> 0:07:58.230 it's good. And then what do they do? They rebel 0:07:58.260 --> 0:08:01.800 and they sin. And then God rebuilt. You know, he 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.710 judges the earth with the. Because it gets so bad. 0:08:04.710 --> 0:08:08.520 And you have the flood, the universal flood. And then 0:08:08.550 --> 0:08:10.740 he starts again with Noah. And what does Noah do? 0:08:10.770 --> 0:08:13.830 He plants a vineyard. He's got a beautiful garden. And 0:08:13.830 --> 0:08:17.400 then he takes of the fruit in an inappropriate way. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:22.710 He gets drunk. And then in the same way, the 0:08:22.710 --> 0:08:28.020 behavior with his children, his son, uh, looks upon him inappropriately. 0:08:28.020 --> 0:08:34.920 And then, uh, ham descendant Canaan is cursed. And so 0:08:34.950 --> 0:08:37.950 it's a deliberate recursion that every time God says, okay, 0:08:37.950 --> 0:08:40.319 I'm really fed up with this, I'm going to judge it. 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.170 I'm going to start again. And then what happens immediately? 0:08:43.170 --> 0:08:46.620 The first generation, they recur the same sin. And I 0:08:46.620 --> 0:08:48.750 think that that's one of the things that we see 0:08:48.780 --> 0:08:52.980 is that no matter what God does, what do we do? 0:08:53.010 --> 0:08:56.820 We go back to our selfish desires. 0:08:56.850 --> 0:08:58.260 And don't we also see that at the end of 0:08:58.260 --> 0:09:02.640 time in in the book of revelation, in the Millennial Kingdom, 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.220 everything is so wonderful. And then there's a. 0:09:05.220 --> 0:09:05.520 Last. 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.380 Battle, a last battle, a rebellion. 0:09:07.410 --> 0:09:12.030 Yeah. That there's even after a perfect thousand years where 0:09:12.030 --> 0:09:13.830 the Lord Jesus has reigned on the throne, there will 0:09:13.860 --> 0:09:17.520 be people born in that thousand years. And then revelation 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.700 chapter 20 talks about that. There's going to be one 0:09:20.700 --> 0:09:25.110 more battle. They call it the war of Gog and Magog. 0:09:25.140 --> 0:09:28.319 There it says. That's a good point. It's revelation 27. 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.990 When the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released 0:09:30.990 --> 0:09:33.270 from his prison and will go out to deceive the 0:09:33.270 --> 0:09:35.790 nations at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, 0:09:35.820 --> 0:09:38.010 to gather them for battle. Their number is like the 0:09:38.010 --> 0:09:40.320 sand of the sea. They come up over the surface 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.080 of the earth and surrounded the encampment of the saints, 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.930 the beloved city. Then fire came down from heaven and 0:09:45.929 --> 0:09:49.750 consumed them. But even after a perfect setting like the 0:09:49.750 --> 0:09:53.140 Millennial Kingdom, where Messiah is reigning directly, there still will 0:09:53.170 --> 0:09:53.710 be a rebellion. 0:09:53.740 --> 0:09:56.110 At the end. It's returned to Eden in the fact 0:09:56.110 --> 0:09:57.130 that he's there. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:02.050 Mhm. Yeah. So yeah, it just shows us what are 0:10:02.050 --> 0:10:04.929 we like apart from God. Rebellious. 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:05.560 Rebellious. 0:10:05.590 --> 0:10:09.040 We're always going to do it. So, uh, if there's anything, 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:10.809 I'll tell you what. Let me just say one last 0:10:10.809 --> 0:10:15.819 thing about the flood. There's a structure of the way 0:10:15.820 --> 0:10:20.530 the Hebrew is written. It's called chiasm, and I won't lie. 0:10:20.620 --> 0:10:25.540 Chiasm means, uh, it has a, b, c, d e 0:10:25.540 --> 0:10:31.240 and then, uh, d c b a it's sort of 0:10:31.270 --> 0:10:33.069 half an x if you want to think of it. 0:10:33.190 --> 0:10:36.850 That's how thing. And there's a parallel a pattern a 0:10:36.850 --> 0:10:39.670 and and a and b and b. But the thing 0:10:39.670 --> 0:10:42.850 in the center is what the writer wants to draw 0:10:42.850 --> 0:10:45.880 your attention to. So if you say a, the first 0:10:45.890 --> 0:10:49.280 part is the waters coming and the second part is 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:54.020 the waters receding. But at the center of it all, 0:10:54.020 --> 0:10:56.900 the thing that that the the author is trying to 0:10:56.900 --> 0:11:02.720 draw our attention to is God remembered. Noah. So at 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:07.220 the center of the flood is God's grace and God's mercy. 0:11:07.220 --> 0:11:14.420 And that's more though we think of the flood as judgment. Uh, really, 0:11:14.420 --> 0:11:16.430 what it's designed to do is show us that even 0:11:16.429 --> 0:11:20.750 in the midst of judgment, God is merciful. Isn't that great? 0:11:20.780 --> 0:11:23.780 It's the great reminder from the book of Genesis. We 0:11:23.809 --> 0:11:27.140 keep sinning. God keeps being merciful. Well, we're going to 0:11:27.140 --> 0:11:29.630 be back with more of your questions. Don't call in. 0:11:29.630 --> 0:11:32.420 It's just an all mailbag, all the time program. Today. 0:11:32.420 --> 0:11:35.240 You're listening to me, Michael Radonich and Tricia McMillan and 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:41.450 Ella Radonich. Stay with us. We'll be right back. Have 0:11:41.450 --> 0:11:43.970 you ever wondered how we got the Bible? 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She was. 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:07.670 A big job, but. 0:13:07.700 --> 0:13:10.310 You got to include that, she'd say. Yeah. And also 0:13:10.340 --> 0:13:14.450 Trish McMillan, our producer, who has put together this all mailbag, 0:13:14.450 --> 0:13:17.000 all the time program. She's got all your questions you've 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:17.930 sent in. Right. 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:21.050 We do. Our next question is from Juliana. So we've 0:13:21.050 --> 0:13:23.210 just talked about in our first segment, we talked about 0:13:23.210 --> 0:13:27.050 Genesis and the flood. Hers kind of piggybacks on that. 0:13:27.140 --> 0:13:29.630 She said her sixth grade son attends a private school 0:13:29.630 --> 0:13:33.290 within the Christian tradition. Recently, his religion teacher mentioned to 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.480 the students that Adam and Eve and Noah's Ark are 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.870 just made up stories to teach lessons. When I called 0:13:38.870 --> 0:13:41.910 the head of the school, he also said that they 0:13:41.910 --> 0:13:45.000 weren't real, that it's not part of the actual actual 0:13:45.030 --> 0:13:47.310 history because they can't they couldn't have been recorded and 0:13:47.309 --> 0:13:50.340 they can't be proven, but that the message is real. 0:13:50.910 --> 0:13:53.610 I'm just beside myself because I've always believed these stories 0:13:53.610 --> 0:13:55.410 to be real, and now I don't know what to believe. 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.140 Can you please clarify this for me once and for all? 0:13:59.100 --> 0:14:03.179 Well, I'm sure you read in the Bible how it starts. 0:14:03.210 --> 0:14:08.010 Once upon a time, God created the heavens and the earth. 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:09.720 Or once upon a time, the heavens and the earth 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:10.650 just kind of happened. 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:11.219 Yeah. 0:14:11.490 --> 0:14:12.120 Yeah. 0:14:13.380 --> 0:14:19.050 Well, it seems to me that people have a hard 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.740 time with the creation story, and so they want to 0:14:22.770 --> 0:14:26.400 get around it. And the way they get around it 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:31.200 is by saying, oh, it's it's uh, uh, what do 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:36.660 we call it? Uh, their messages are true. But now 0:14:36.660 --> 0:14:40.110 narrative literature in the Bible, which includes the creation narrative 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:45.130 stories of the Bible. They are defined as the representation 0:14:45.130 --> 0:14:49.780 of past events for the purpose of instruction. And what 0:14:49.780 --> 0:14:52.360 I mean, that's a definition I would give in my class. 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:56.920 The representation of past events for the purpose of instruction. Meaning, 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:00.370 when we have narrative or what are called stories in 0:15:00.370 --> 0:15:05.109 the Bible, they are histories, they are true stories, and 0:15:05.110 --> 0:15:07.330 they have been designed and written down in a way 0:15:07.330 --> 0:15:09.580 so that we can actually learn from them. All things 0:15:09.580 --> 0:15:12.310 were written for us so that we can learn from them. 0:15:12.310 --> 0:15:16.989 First Corinthians ten says, and so, yes, they're true stories, 0:15:16.990 --> 0:15:19.330 but they're designed for instruction. It sounds to me like 0:15:19.330 --> 0:15:22.960 what they're saying is like this, this question about is 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:24.130 it Noah's Ark, right. 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:25.240 Noah's Ark and Adam and Eve. 0:15:25.420 --> 0:15:27.970 Adam and Eve, that they're just trying to get the 0:15:27.970 --> 0:15:31.300 instruction from it without accepting the true history of. 0:15:31.300 --> 0:15:33.100 It? I think, you know, part of the confusion comes 0:15:33.100 --> 0:15:35.500 with calling the Bible stories. And so we sort of 0:15:35.530 --> 0:15:37.840 think of stories like Grimms Fairy Tales or. 0:15:38.620 --> 0:15:41.440 Yeah, but now the reason. That's why I started with 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:45.760 my answer. There are literary clues given by authors to 0:15:45.790 --> 0:15:49.930 tell us when they're making stuff up. So if I 0:15:49.930 --> 0:15:54.040 were to write Once Upon a time, all of you 0:15:54.070 --> 0:15:57.369 would think, yeah, he's making that story up. That's a 0:15:57.370 --> 0:16:01.420 fairy tale. But the Bible doesn't ever present its material 0:16:01.420 --> 0:16:07.420 that way. It states what it states not just as fantasy. 0:16:07.450 --> 0:16:11.290 It doesn't do that. It presents it as fact. And 0:16:11.290 --> 0:16:14.500 that's why we can get instruction from it. Because it's true. 0:16:14.530 --> 0:16:16.870 Now sometimes people say, well, it's hard to believe. Yeah, 0:16:16.900 --> 0:16:19.810 I think it's hard to believe that a donkey spoke 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.420 in numbers, but it says God opened its mouth. And 0:16:22.420 --> 0:16:25.000 I believe in a sovereign God. And there's a reason 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.970 why that story is put there, because in the next chapter, 0:16:27.970 --> 0:16:30.729 Balaam's going to prophesy. And if God can speak from 0:16:30.730 --> 0:16:32.920 the donkey, he can speak through the other donkey, too, 0:16:32.950 --> 0:16:35.740 you know, and it's to remind us of that. And 0:16:35.740 --> 0:16:40.720 so the point of it is these these stories, even 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.000 miraculous ones, even ones that are hard to believe, are 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.850 designed by the writers of Scripture to believe them. And 0:16:45.850 --> 0:16:49.120 one of the things that I don't think to interpret 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.730 the Bible, but Eve is really the master of this. 0:16:51.730 --> 0:16:55.270 She always, or I should say the mistress of it, 0:16:55.270 --> 0:16:57.280 because I have to get my genders right. But oh please, 0:16:57.430 --> 0:17:01.750 the she was in charge of as our kids were 0:17:01.750 --> 0:17:04.449 growing up, and they had questions about these things and 0:17:04.450 --> 0:17:07.270 they were going to secular school. Of course, they weren't 0:17:07.270 --> 0:17:11.920 learning the creation story. Eva was always working with them 0:17:12.100 --> 0:17:15.280 on helping them to see the historicity and the truth 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:16.030 of the Bible. 0:17:16.060 --> 0:17:18.700 I think one of the interesting parts about this question 0:17:18.700 --> 0:17:23.410 about Adam and Eve will start with their, you know, 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.320 it's about God being the creator. And if you took 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.020 a pencil and you underlined every time God is mentioned 0:17:29.050 --> 0:17:31.720 as creator in the whole Bible, you'd have to go 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.720 through several pencils by the time you finished reading. It's 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:34.990 not a. 0:17:34.990 --> 0:17:35.560 Whole nature. 0:17:35.650 --> 0:17:37.820 Part of his whole nature is not an isolated event, 0:17:37.820 --> 0:17:40.040 so it's in the beginning. Those verses and it's not 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.740 mentioned again, it is the theme that runs through the 0:17:42.740 --> 0:17:44.480 scripture of God being our creator. 0:17:44.570 --> 0:17:47.450 We were talking before about Annie and her iguana. 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.600 Yes, my four year old daughter is in Awana and 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:55.190 and our recent Bible verse was John 1717. Your word 0:17:55.190 --> 0:17:59.090 is truth and even the importance of when I'm reading 0:17:59.090 --> 0:18:02.570 to her the Bible passage, the importance of picking up 0:18:02.570 --> 0:18:04.969 an actual Bible and not just reading it off of 0:18:04.970 --> 0:18:08.149 my phone or on a printed out piece of paper, 0:18:08.150 --> 0:18:10.850 but that she sees that. And that I'm differentiating between 0:18:10.850 --> 0:18:14.960 the Bible is true and other stories that we read 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:18.080 and pick up off of our bookshelf. But how do you? 0:18:19.130 --> 0:18:21.409 So as a mom, you're sending your child to this 0:18:21.410 --> 0:18:25.130 school where you think they're getting the the Bible teaching 0:18:25.130 --> 0:18:28.730 that you want them to get? What do you do 0:18:28.730 --> 0:18:32.330 now when when you find out that the teachers are saying, oh, 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.710 they're just stories. Even if they say, well, well, God's creator. Yeah, 0:18:35.710 --> 0:18:38.950 that kind of just weaves through the whole thing. Um, 0:18:38.950 --> 0:18:43.360 which is true. Ha! But but it's more than that. 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:47.590 The whole the whole story is true. Not just that 0:18:47.590 --> 0:18:50.709 message that kind of weaves through it. How do you 0:18:50.740 --> 0:18:52.090 how do you handle that? 0:18:52.630 --> 0:18:55.240 Yeah, I think you need to. It's a good opportunity 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.100 to do a little Bible study with your kids and say, okay, 0:18:57.130 --> 0:18:59.980 where where else is Adam and Eve mentioned in the Bible? 0:19:00.010 --> 0:19:02.710 Are they only mentioned here or are they mentioned other places? 0:19:02.740 --> 0:19:04.479 And look at the other places where they're mentioned. And 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.969 every time they're mentioned, they're mentioned as historical. 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:09.100 Yeah. And in fact, someone by the name of the 0:19:09.100 --> 0:19:13.630 Lord Jesus Christ. Yeah. Mentions them and treats them as historical. 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:18.640 And so basically I would, I would, I would say, 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.939 who are we going to listen to the teachers that 0:19:21.940 --> 0:19:26.080 say it's not or our Lord? I mean, obviously that's. 0:19:26.109 --> 0:19:29.919 And you can do it without being disrespectful, building disrespect 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.169 in your kids for their teacher. You know, you know, 0:19:32.410 --> 0:19:36.119 you know. Mr. Wilson is a great teacher and he 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:37.889 has so many good things to say. But on this, 0:19:37.890 --> 0:19:40.109 I don't think he has a real good understanding of 0:19:40.109 --> 0:19:41.580 what the Bible is really talking about here. 0:19:41.609 --> 0:19:44.160 The other thing to this is maybe a challenge. I 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.950 think that parents maybe that we were sending our kids 0:19:46.950 --> 0:19:49.470 to secular school, so we knew that they're going to 0:19:49.470 --> 0:19:51.900 be hearing things that were contrary. So we just said, listen, 0:19:51.900 --> 0:19:54.030 I really appreciate your teachers. We love them. We think 0:19:54.030 --> 0:19:58.229 they're great. But on this stuff, we think that we 0:19:58.260 --> 0:20:01.320 differ with them and we think we're right. And so, 0:20:01.350 --> 0:20:03.300 you know, don't argue or have big fights with your 0:20:03.300 --> 0:20:07.260 teachers in class, but instead, you know, just this is 0:20:07.260 --> 0:20:09.780 what what I'll teach you and what I've taught them. 0:20:09.780 --> 0:20:11.640 And then so that's one thing you can do that's 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:13.560 an approach you can take. Or the other approach is 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:15.119 you can say, I'm going to find a school that 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:20.550 teaches the Bible as true and maybe shop schools. Shop schools, 0:20:20.700 --> 0:20:22.110 you know, that's another possibility. 0:20:22.109 --> 0:20:24.179 And those are good life lessons to teach your kids 0:20:24.180 --> 0:20:27.840 to that, that the Bible is true and foundations to 0:20:27.869 --> 0:20:31.950 build upon in their lives throughout this. Well thank you. 0:20:32.070 --> 0:20:34.980 Thanks for that. I hope that's helpful. Juliana. Um, our 0:20:34.980 --> 0:20:40.980 next question is from Crawfordsville, Indiana. Um, in Genesis, so 0:20:40.980 --> 0:20:45.540 much of our understanding hinges on certain Hebrew words. Moses 0:20:45.540 --> 0:20:49.770 was educated in presumably the best Egyptian schools and tutors available. 0:20:49.770 --> 0:20:52.409 If Moses wrote the Pentateuch, as we believe, are we 0:20:52.410 --> 0:20:55.920 arguing over a Hebrew translation of an Egyptian language? Would 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:57.900 he have written it in Egyptian? 0:20:58.740 --> 0:21:00.960 I think we need to remember that he spoke Hebrew. 0:21:01.950 --> 0:21:05.790 You know, he was he was the child of Jewish parents, 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:11.129 and I'm sure his of of Hebrew parents. Right. And 0:21:11.490 --> 0:21:14.159 remember when he was everybody knows the the, the Bible 0:21:14.190 --> 0:21:16.860 story of where he was hidden in the basket and, 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.200 and the Egyptian princess said, I would like to find 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:21.660 a nurse for him. And his sister had been sent 0:21:21.660 --> 0:21:23.369 to watch to be sure that he wasn't eaten by 0:21:23.369 --> 0:21:26.250 the crocodiles or whatever. And she goes, oh, I know 0:21:26.250 --> 0:21:28.110 a nurse. And he was taken back to his own 0:21:28.109 --> 0:21:30.690 mother to take care of him. So certainly his heart 0:21:30.700 --> 0:21:32.380 Language was Hebrew. 0:21:32.410 --> 0:21:35.020 Yeah, I'm sure they spoke with him in Hebrew at 0:21:35.020 --> 0:21:38.050 home as he was being raised. And also, I'm sure 0:21:38.050 --> 0:21:40.780 he learned Egyptian. He was probably bilingual, right? That's not 0:21:40.780 --> 0:21:44.590 hard for us. And so I would not presume that 0:21:44.590 --> 0:21:48.280 the the Bible was written in Egyptian and then translated 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:50.530 into Hebrew. I would not presume that, but even if 0:21:50.530 --> 0:21:57.669 it were, it's really irrelevant. Here's why. When we read in, uh, 0:21:57.670 --> 0:22:04.869 second Timothy 316, it says, All Scripture is God breathed. 0:22:05.109 --> 0:22:11.200 All Scripture is inspired. Now, what does this mean? This 0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:16.210 means that it is the text of Scripture that is inspired, 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:19.990 not the authors of Scripture. We often think of the 0:22:19.990 --> 0:22:23.710 writers as being the inspired ones, but it says it's 0:22:23.710 --> 0:22:26.800 the the text of Scripture that's God breathed. Now men 0:22:26.830 --> 0:22:29.080 were moved by the Holy Spirit. It says in Second 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:32.419 Peter 121 to write what it is that God wanted 0:22:32.450 --> 0:22:35.270 them to write. Uh, it wasn't dictation. They did it 0:22:35.270 --> 0:22:37.970 with their own personalities. They did it with their own ideas. 0:22:37.970 --> 0:22:40.250 But the Holy Spirit was moving them as they did 0:22:40.250 --> 0:22:44.540 this sort of working together. Nevertheless, it's the text of 0:22:44.540 --> 0:22:47.869 Scripture that's inspired. So even if Moses in his process 0:22:47.869 --> 0:22:50.720 wrote it in Egyptian, first had a hieroglyphics Bible, and 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:54.890 then wrote it and translated that into Hebrew, it's really 0:22:54.890 --> 0:22:58.790 irrelevant because the scripture we have is in Hebrew. So 0:22:58.820 --> 0:23:03.110 it's the final form. What's Hebrew? That's what's inspired. And 0:23:03.109 --> 0:23:05.480 so we don't have to and this is not a 0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:09.350 new thing. We we hear people who say, well, Jesus 0:23:09.350 --> 0:23:14.090 spoke Aramaic in the Gospels. 0:23:14.090 --> 0:23:14.990 Which is a Hebrew, like. 0:23:15.170 --> 0:23:18.740 It's a, it's a Semitic language like Hebrew. And the 0:23:18.740 --> 0:23:20.810 Jewish people picked it up when they were in Babylon, 0:23:20.810 --> 0:23:22.760 and they came back, and that's what they were speaking 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:25.639 every day in Hebrew was also a language that they knew. 0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:29.270 But Jesus spoke Aramaic. Therefore, what we need to do 0:23:29.270 --> 0:23:32.690 is go to the Gospels and see and translate them back, 0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:38.210 especially Jesus words, into Aramaic, and understand it that way. No, 0:23:38.330 --> 0:23:42.680 it's in Greek, the God breathed word of God. The 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:45.889 scriptures are in Greek, and that's what we read. I 0:23:45.890 --> 0:23:49.609 had a woman write to me recently and say, uh, 0:23:49.609 --> 0:23:53.570 we know that Jesus heart language was Aramaic, and then 0:23:53.810 --> 0:23:56.930 she makes this logical leap. And therefore Adam and Eve 0:23:56.960 --> 0:24:00.260 probably spoke Aramaic in the Garden of Eden. Well, that's 0:24:00.260 --> 0:24:03.409 a logical leap. And then said, we have to translate 0:24:03.859 --> 0:24:07.340 the words in Genesis back into Aramaic when they named 0:24:07.340 --> 0:24:11.000 the animals. No we don't. It's the final form. The 0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:13.280 final form is in Hebrew. And by the way, I 0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:15.230 don't believe it was in Aramaic or anything like that, 0:24:15.230 --> 0:24:17.540 or in Egyptian. But even if it were, what do 0:24:17.540 --> 0:24:21.260 we have? We have an inspired text of Scripture. We 0:24:21.260 --> 0:24:24.770 read it in that way, and then we have accurate 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:28.220 translations and we can read it that way. For those 0:24:28.220 --> 0:24:30.860 of us who don't read Hebrew or Greek, we can 0:24:30.859 --> 0:24:33.440 still understand the Bible. We don't have to go back 0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:36.170 to a language behind the Bible, which is what sometimes 0:24:36.170 --> 0:24:39.050 people think that we need to do. That would be a, 0:24:39.050 --> 0:24:43.910 I think, a really serious mistake. So that's it's I 0:24:43.910 --> 0:24:46.159 always say we're going to interpret the text, not the 0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:49.040 events behind the text. We're going to interpret what the 0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:52.459 text of Scripture says. And by the time a student 0:24:52.460 --> 0:24:57.170 has me for a biblical interpretation, what's called hermeneutics, by 0:24:57.170 --> 0:24:59.750 the end of the semester, they're saying, yeah, we know text, 0:24:59.780 --> 0:25:03.440 not the events, text, text. We know because I keep 0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:06.290 saying it's what we have. That's what we read. That's 0:25:06.290 --> 0:25:09.919 what God gave us. That's the inspired Word of God. Well, 0:25:10.940 --> 0:25:13.760 you can write to us with your question. Open line 0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:16.250 at Moody Edu, you can go to our Facebook page. 0:25:16.250 --> 0:25:19.340 You can post your question there. 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Because if 0:29:01.390 --> 0:29:02.710 I want to look something up, I don't want to 0:29:02.740 --> 0:29:05.140 wait for Iva to be done with her moody Bible commentary. 0:29:05.140 --> 0:29:05.620 So I need my. 0:29:05.740 --> 0:29:07.630 Or. I don't want to get up and walk across 0:29:07.630 --> 0:29:10.690 the room. Six feet. Six feet. Yeah. 0:29:10.990 --> 0:29:13.270 Well, now you can mark it up yourself. That's right. 0:29:13.300 --> 0:29:15.760 Your own things. You could sign each other's. 0:29:15.850 --> 0:29:17.140 Yeah. You know. 0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:20.300 Well, now you can study if you're listening, or you 0:29:20.300 --> 0:29:21.890 can get a gift for someone so they can study 0:29:21.890 --> 0:29:24.590 the Bible with the faculty of the Moody Bible Institute. 0:29:24.590 --> 0:29:28.100 And feel free to go to our online bookstore or 0:29:28.100 --> 0:29:30.830 to your local Christian bookstore and get a copy of 0:29:30.830 --> 0:29:32.210 the Moody Bible Commentary. 0:29:33.170 --> 0:29:33.770 All right. 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:37.160 Our next question is from Roy in Peotone, Illinois listens 0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:41.870 to WMP. His question is out of Exodus 27, verses 0:29:41.870 --> 0:29:45.020 20 and 21. Aaron and his descendants are given a 0:29:45.020 --> 0:29:48.320 statute to be observed for ever throughout their generations, to 0:29:48.350 --> 0:29:52.010 keep and tend a lamp from evening until morning. So 0:29:52.010 --> 0:29:53.480 it's kind of got two questions. Do you think it's 0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.970 possible that there may be a lamp still being tended 0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.880 either publicly or in secret? And if not, then why 0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.580 would God give a statute to forever be observed by 0:30:01.580 --> 0:30:02.720 the people of Israel? 0:30:04.010 --> 0:30:09.170 Well, first of all, it is not being burned today. 0:30:09.170 --> 0:30:14.600 It's called the the Eternal flame. The near Tamid is 0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:18.540 what it's called in Judaism, and it was part of 0:30:18.540 --> 0:30:22.320 the tabernacle and the temple worship. And it's there is 0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.540 no temple. There is no tabernacle. 0:30:24.570 --> 0:30:26.220 It was in the tabernacle. And then when the temple 0:30:26.220 --> 0:30:28.290 was built, that was all transferred to the temple. 0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:31.440 But no more. No more. And so we don't have it. 0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:32.280 So how can it be? 0:30:32.490 --> 0:30:34.770 Can you remind us how come? Because in 70 A.D., 0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:36.270 the temple was destroyed. Yeah. 0:30:36.300 --> 0:30:40.590 That's it. So, uh. So that's why since A.D. 70, 0:30:40.620 --> 0:30:44.340 this has not been burning the menorah. The the the 0:30:44.340 --> 0:30:50.910 eternal flame. But it's it's called. I'm looking here at 0:30:51.300 --> 0:30:57.120 Genesis 2721. It's called a perpetual statute in the new 0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:03.210 American standard, a permanent statute in the hcsb. But what 0:31:03.210 --> 0:31:09.570 I think is interesting, it's it's a statute for forever. 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:12.810 That's how it literally reads in Hebrew. And the word 0:31:12.810 --> 0:31:21.690 is olam. Uh, olam means forever, a forever statute. Now, 0:31:21.690 --> 0:31:25.860 the word olam is a really interesting word because it 0:31:25.860 --> 0:31:30.660 doesn't always mean for all time. It it can mean 0:31:30.660 --> 0:31:34.740 for the period of time. For the lifetime, I guess 0:31:34.740 --> 0:31:38.670 you could say, for the lifetime of this statute. And 0:31:38.670 --> 0:31:42.570 here's what I mean. In Exodus 21, it says that 0:31:42.570 --> 0:31:46.500 a slave could decide to stay with his master, doesn't 0:31:46.500 --> 0:31:49.890 want to leave. And so he would then bring have 0:31:49.890 --> 0:31:53.280 his ear pierced. You know, that famous passage and Exodus 0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:56.070 20 would have his ear pierced, and then he would 0:31:56.070 --> 0:32:02.220 stay with with his master La Olam forever. Now, did 0:32:02.220 --> 0:32:04.229 that mean for all eternity he was a slave to 0:32:04.260 --> 0:32:07.740 his master? No, of course not. It meant for his lifetime. 0:32:07.740 --> 0:32:10.469 And so the same thing with these statutes. This is 0:32:10.470 --> 0:32:14.160 for the lifetime of the statute and the. The lifetime 0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.440 of this statute is till to the the temple was 0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:18.990 destroyed and then it can't be observed any longer. 0:32:19.290 --> 0:32:22.800 Huh? Sorry, I'm making notes. 0:32:22.950 --> 0:32:26.670 But the tradition is carried on in Rabbinic Judaism today. 0:32:26.670 --> 0:32:29.550 So that synagogues have a light in their in their, 0:32:29.580 --> 0:32:30.720 in their building. 0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:31.590 But it's not a flame. 0:32:31.590 --> 0:32:33.420 And yeah, it's not a flame, but it's but it 0:32:33.420 --> 0:32:36.150 is a it's a special lamp that burns. And it's. 0:32:36.150 --> 0:32:36.240 A. 0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:37.440 Reminder as a reminder of. 0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:40.500 This, a symbolic. Yeah. Remind you. Okay. Okay. 0:32:40.530 --> 0:32:43.170 Well, great. Thanks for that question, Roy. Our next question 0:32:43.170 --> 0:32:46.800 is from Rita in Ravenna, Ohio. Listens to Wtxf in 0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:51.150 judges nine. Why does Scripture say Abimelech killed the 70 0:32:51.180 --> 0:32:54.930 sons of Gideon when he actually only killed 69 because 0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:56.640 Jotham escaped? 0:32:57.180 --> 0:33:02.130 I think it's probably a literary rounding up of the number. 0:33:02.340 --> 0:33:05.520 I think it's not. It's not a mathematical inaccuracy that 0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.820 makes you want to say, well, if they say 70 0:33:08.850 --> 0:33:11.040 and it was only 69, then let's don't even believe 0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:14.290 the Bible anymore. I think it is just a Referee 0:33:15.010 --> 0:33:18.910 summary statement that he killed all the 70 sons of Gideon. 0:33:18.910 --> 0:33:20.590 But actually Jotham escaped. 0:33:20.620 --> 0:33:23.950 Yeah. Jotham escaped. And so this morning I was reading 0:33:23.950 --> 0:33:28.060 the questions that you sent a skimming through them, and 0:33:28.060 --> 0:33:30.580 I saw that question, and I read it out loud 0:33:30.580 --> 0:33:33.400 to Eva, and she said, can you say roundup? 0:33:33.430 --> 0:33:33.940 Yeah. 0:33:34.510 --> 0:33:36.880 That was her. I thought, well, that's the simplest and 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:41.980 best explanation for this, that it's not sometimes we we 0:33:41.980 --> 0:33:44.380 become hyper literal. I think we should be literal. When 0:33:44.380 --> 0:33:46.600 we read the Bible, we become hyper literal. We don't 0:33:46.630 --> 0:33:48.760 allow for the normal way that we talk and the 0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:54.160 normal way that we would summarize, like rounding up to 70. 0:33:54.190 --> 0:33:55.180 That's all it is. 0:33:55.570 --> 0:33:59.410 Okay. And I know there are a couple other uses 0:33:59.410 --> 0:34:03.010 of 70 in there. Like there's 70 pieces of silver 0:34:03.010 --> 0:34:05.920 that they gave him. And so there may be I mean, there. 0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:06.220 Might be. 0:34:06.250 --> 0:34:09.100 There might be some sort of 70 and 70 and. 0:34:09.130 --> 0:34:09.910 And rounding it up. 0:34:09.940 --> 0:34:11.230 Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 0:34:11.260 --> 0:34:13.879 Okay. But I think that that what happens is that 0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:17.270 we get hyper literal. One of my favorite stories was, uh, 0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:22.100 Jesus was Eve was teaching about Jesus healing of a 0:34:22.100 --> 0:34:26.480 man to little kids once. And he said, Lord, if 0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.750 you say the word, my, my servant will be healed. 0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:31.040 Do you remember that? 0:34:31.070 --> 0:34:31.520 I do. 0:34:31.550 --> 0:34:34.400 And the little girl looked at Eve and said. 0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:36.290 What's the word? 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.700 Because she she was so literal. She thought there was 0:34:40.700 --> 0:34:42.109 one special word that he had to say. 0:34:42.260 --> 0:34:42.680 Word. Right? 0:34:42.710 --> 0:34:45.740 And I think sometimes too many people come to the 0:34:45.739 --> 0:34:48.170 Bible and they treat it that way instead of reading 0:34:48.170 --> 0:34:50.810 it for its plain meaning. Simple meaning. 0:34:50.870 --> 0:34:51.739 Okay. 0:34:52.489 --> 0:34:54.020 Of course she's excused. She was seven. 0:34:54.110 --> 0:34:55.280 She was seven, right? Yeah. 0:34:56.060 --> 0:35:02.569 Um, our next question is from, um, Cynthia in Lakeland, Florida. 0:35:02.570 --> 0:35:06.290 Listens to Wcqs. I enjoy your program and admire your 0:35:06.290 --> 0:35:10.340 dedication to the word. My question is in Luke 1619 0:35:10.340 --> 0:35:15.830 to 31. Um. It states that Lazarus the beggar died 0:35:15.830 --> 0:35:19.880 and was carried by the angels to Abraham. Why? Abraham. 0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.729 There's another Lazarus. This one should be a real quick thing. 0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:27.770 There's another Lazarus in John 11 one through 44. Um, 0:35:27.890 --> 0:35:30.110 John 11, who has died and was raised by Jesus. 0:35:30.110 --> 0:35:34.100 That's a different Lazarus, correct? Why would the beggar Lazarus? 0:35:34.130 --> 0:35:35.870 So it's kind of two different things. Why would the 0:35:35.900 --> 0:35:38.239 beggar Lazarus go to Abraham and not go to God? 0:35:38.270 --> 0:35:40.880 Yep. First thing is, it's true. There are different lazaruses. 0:35:40.910 --> 0:35:45.230 Lazarus is the name of the friend of Jesus who 0:35:45.230 --> 0:35:48.049 died and was resurrected by Jesus. 0:35:48.140 --> 0:35:49.580 Uh, had the sisters. 0:35:49.610 --> 0:35:54.860 The sisters? Mary and Martha. Exactly. And that's the Lazarus 0:35:54.890 --> 0:35:58.100 is a name like today we would say John. Okay. Uh, 0:35:58.100 --> 0:36:00.529 it was just a common Hebrew name. 0:36:00.650 --> 0:36:01.010 Okay. 0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:06.020 It was from Eliezer. Uh, in Hebrew. And so that's 0:36:06.020 --> 0:36:09.770 the first thing. Secondly, this Lazarus, when Jesus told the 0:36:09.770 --> 0:36:13.730 story of Lazarus and the the rich man. It was 0:36:13.730 --> 0:36:16.640 just that. It was a parable. It wasn't. It was 0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:20.870 an illustrative story. It is not. It's based on truth. 0:36:20.870 --> 0:36:23.360 But there was no real Lazarus character. There was no 0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:28.100 real rich man. It's a parable. It's an illustration. And 0:36:28.100 --> 0:36:30.320 we have to understand what a parable is. It's it's 0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:34.730 it's true to life, but it's not a factual retelling 0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:39.680 of a story. And in that culture at that time, 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:41.930 when a person went to be with the Lord, the 0:36:41.930 --> 0:36:44.210 patriarchs were there to bring comfort. 0:36:44.210 --> 0:36:48.319 That was the, the, the image in the tradition. 0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:50.569 In the tradition. And so Jesus just goes with that. 0:36:50.570 --> 0:36:54.170 And who's to say that that's not true, that Abraham 0:36:54.170 --> 0:36:58.640 won't be the one to bring comfort and and so 0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.310 I think that's why it's there. But if he was 0:37:01.310 --> 0:37:04.940 bringing comfort, he was just an instrumental comforter in the 0:37:04.969 --> 0:37:08.450 hands of God when bringing comfort. So anyway, we're going 0:37:08.450 --> 0:37:10.800 to be back with more questions in just a moment 0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:14.280 on this all mailbag, all the time edition of Open Line. 0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:17.130 So glad you're listening in. We'll be right back on 0:37:17.130 --> 0:37:31.260 Open Line. Stay with us. Welcome back to Open Line. 0:37:31.260 --> 0:37:33.000 I'm Michael Ray Dolnick, and if you'd like to know 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:34.560 a little bit more about me, you can go to 0:37:34.590 --> 0:37:37.919 my personal homepage. You'll find my bio there. Blog posts, 0:37:37.950 --> 0:37:41.910 also info about speaking engagements, books I've written, even trips 0:37:41.910 --> 0:37:44.730 to Israel. Just go to the Open Line Radio website 0:37:44.730 --> 0:37:48.360 that's Open Line radio.org and scroll down. You'll see a 0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:51.180 link with my smiling face that says my website. Click 0:37:51.180 --> 0:37:53.550 on that and it will take you to my personal website. 0:37:53.550 --> 0:37:56.070 And you can see all those things that I just 0:37:56.070 --> 0:37:59.670 mentioned with me today for this all mailbag, All the 0:37:59.700 --> 0:38:03.000 Time program is Tricia McMillan, producer of Open Line, and 0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:06.630 Eva Radonich, who's generally at home during the program, texting 0:38:06.630 --> 0:38:09.460 me the answers to your questions. But today she is here, 0:38:09.489 --> 0:38:12.340 giving me the answers directly. So thank you for being 0:38:12.340 --> 0:38:13.359 here and it's. 0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:14.799 Great to be at the radio kitchen table. 0:38:14.830 --> 0:38:17.500 Yeah, yeah. We need we need the coffee. We need 0:38:17.500 --> 0:38:21.490 everything so that we can just get everything done. That's 0:38:21.489 --> 0:38:24.130 what we need. So and so. Eva, just hold up 0:38:24.130 --> 0:38:26.260 big signs. You don't have to text. 0:38:26.290 --> 0:38:27.430 Okay? Okay. Good, good. 0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:31.090 Okay. So, Trish, we got something going. 0:38:31.090 --> 0:38:34.299 Yeah. Our next our next question is from Brad says 0:38:34.300 --> 0:38:36.759 I absolutely love spending part of my Saturday morning with 0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:39.640 you when I can. Blessings to you and the Moody family. Um, 0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:42.759 his question is about the location of your spirit right 0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:46.000 after you die. So the next several questions actually kind 0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:50.259 of are about where that sort of thing. Um, if 0:38:50.260 --> 0:38:53.140 your spirit goes immediately into the presence of God, does 0:38:53.140 --> 0:38:55.420 this mean that when Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead, 0:38:55.420 --> 0:38:58.569 he brought his spirit back from being in the presence 0:38:58.570 --> 0:39:01.450 of God to his body in the grave? 0:39:01.540 --> 0:39:03.730 Well, I think he probably didn't bring it back to 0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:05.709 his body in the grave as much as he brought 0:39:05.710 --> 0:39:07.610 it back to his body, which was then. 0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:09.140 What was in the grave. It was ready. 0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.410 But yeah, but it probably wasn't reunited until he was 0:39:12.410 --> 0:39:14.930 made alive. Yeah. And he came out in the grave clothes. 0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:15.440 Yeah. 0:39:15.620 --> 0:39:15.859 Yeah. 0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:17.480 But would he have been with God that it was, 0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:20.060 like now? Oh, sorry. You know, you got that bad news. 0:39:20.060 --> 0:39:22.730 For Lazarus, right? Yeah. Lewis does. C.S. Lewis, I Wish 0:39:22.730 --> 0:39:24.350 I Had It With Me has a great poem about 0:39:24.350 --> 0:39:28.130 how Lazarus felt. Yeah. Being called back from the presence 0:39:28.130 --> 0:39:30.230 of God into into earth. 0:39:30.410 --> 0:39:32.930 So I don't have any. I think he was in 0:39:32.930 --> 0:39:37.010 the presence of God. He was being he was there. 0:39:37.010 --> 0:39:39.170 He came back. I have no basis for what I'm 0:39:39.170 --> 0:39:43.669 going to say now. Okay. Okay. Uh, but it's possible 0:39:43.670 --> 0:39:48.920 that the Lord took away his memory of what it 0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:53.270 was like in heaven. Uh, sort of like Men in black, 0:39:53.270 --> 0:39:54.620 where they had the neuralyzer. 0:39:54.650 --> 0:39:54.980 Yeah. 0:39:55.430 --> 0:39:56.930 Uh, a little memory thing. Yeah. 0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:00.650 Yeah, exactly. Uh, I just think that it would be 0:40:00.650 --> 0:40:03.800 so hard to be in God's presence and then return 0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:06.759 that I think God took that memory away. And that's 0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:09.129 why it says that the only one that that could 0:40:09.130 --> 0:40:11.650 speak about what it's like in God's presence was the 0:40:11.650 --> 0:40:15.310 Lord Jesus, because his memory was not taken away. Right? 0:40:15.340 --> 0:40:17.710 He came down from the father. He returned to him. 0:40:17.710 --> 0:40:21.790 And so I have no basis for saying that. But 0:40:21.790 --> 0:40:24.730 I think it's possible that that's what what happened? 0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:25.660 Okay. 0:40:26.290 --> 0:40:28.660 Okay. And that's the worst thing is I want people 0:40:28.690 --> 0:40:32.110 don't say Dolnick said. Because I don't know. I'm just guessing. Right? Yeah, 0:40:32.110 --> 0:40:33.730 that's that's what I think though. 0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:36.280 But not based on Scripture. Just just thinking. Yes. 0:40:36.310 --> 0:40:36.850 Just my thinking. 0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:42.280 Yeah. Yeah. Um, Gertrude in Lafayette, Indiana, listens to Wagner 0:40:42.310 --> 0:40:45.969 has a question along these lines. Um, she's heard that 0:40:45.969 --> 0:40:47.800 there are three heavens and wanted to know if you 0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:50.860 can speak about this. And then she wanted to know, um, 0:40:50.860 --> 0:40:53.739 the little girl in Luke eight that Jesus raises from 0:40:53.739 --> 0:40:57.880 the dead. And then also Lazarus there kind of spoke, 0:40:57.910 --> 0:41:00.850 spoken about as if they're not really dead, just sleeping. 0:41:00.850 --> 0:41:03.950 Were they actually Fully dead. 0:41:03.980 --> 0:41:04.730 Or were they sleeping. 0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:05.480 Or were they sleeping? 0:41:05.510 --> 0:41:07.430 Let me take the first question, which is the three heavens? 0:41:07.430 --> 0:41:10.250 I'm going to throw the second question over to Eva. Uh, 0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:14.990 so first of all, three heavens, people want to say 0:41:14.989 --> 0:41:17.750 that there are levels of heaven. I think that when 0:41:17.750 --> 0:41:21.020 Paul talks about the third heaven, he is not talking 0:41:21.020 --> 0:41:24.379 about a higher level of heaven than a lower level 0:41:24.380 --> 0:41:29.450 of heaven. I think you've got a sky that's first heaven, 0:41:29.450 --> 0:41:33.439 then you've got the atmosphere around us. That's the second heaven, 0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:36.080 and then you've got the presence of God. That's the 0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:38.390 third heaven. So when Paul says he was taken to 0:41:38.390 --> 0:41:40.250 the third heaven, it meant he was just brought to 0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:44.390 the presence of God. Mm. Uh, and so that's that's 0:41:44.390 --> 0:41:47.629 the three heavens. Now, were they sleeping or were they dead? 0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:51.260 Dead. Sleeping is just a it's just a euphemism to 0:41:51.290 --> 0:41:54.290 say that a person has died because they look a 0:41:54.290 --> 0:41:59.029 dead person laid out. Looks like they're just sleeping. And 0:41:59.030 --> 0:42:02.550 so I think that's it was just euphemistically A common 0:42:02.550 --> 0:42:06.029 expression that someone has had had died, but it just 0:42:06.030 --> 0:42:08.880 seemed too harsh to say they're dead. Yeah, so they're sleeping. 0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:10.500 So, like we would say, they've passed away. 0:42:10.530 --> 0:42:10.980 They've passed. 0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:14.790 Away. They're with the Lord. Instead of saying they died. 0:42:15.030 --> 0:42:16.230 Dead means separated. 0:42:16.260 --> 0:42:17.370 Means separated. Right. 0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:20.640 It's separating the the spirit, the immaterial portion from the 0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.610 physical portion. The material portion. And it's used in first 0:42:23.610 --> 0:42:25.200 Thessalonians four as well. 0:42:25.230 --> 0:42:27.060 Right. You see it on tombstones. If you go to 0:42:27.060 --> 0:42:29.190 the old graveyards, they have, like little epitaphs and stuff. 0:42:29.190 --> 0:42:32.190 It'll say like asleep in Jesus. But it's just a, 0:42:32.190 --> 0:42:35.520 it's a, it's a, it's a softer expression for death. 0:42:35.550 --> 0:42:36.240 Okay. 0:42:36.420 --> 0:42:40.980 All right. Thanks, Gertrude, for your question. Faye says she's 0:42:40.980 --> 0:42:42.989 listened to a well-known preacher say that all of our 0:42:42.989 --> 0:42:45.000 loved ones in heaven know what's going on with us 0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.820 and what's happening in the world. And he also said 0:42:47.820 --> 0:42:52.439 that things wouldn't bother them. Um, and she's not understanding that. 0:42:52.739 --> 0:42:55.590 Do you agree or disagree? What do you think? 0:42:55.620 --> 0:42:59.460 Well, I think it's a misunderstanding to think that God. 0:42:59.489 --> 0:43:04.680 That that people see what's going on with their loved ones. Uh, 0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:08.730 it's based on a misinterpretation of Hebrews 11. 0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:10.469 And too many Hollywood movies. 0:43:10.500 --> 0:43:15.270 Yes. But people get it from the Bible, from Hebrews 11, 0:43:15.330 --> 0:43:20.070 actually Hebrews 12. Uh, they they make a mistake. Uh, 0:43:20.070 --> 0:43:21.930 but they do get it from the movies more than 0:43:21.930 --> 0:43:26.100 they get it from the Bible. Uh, therefore, since we 0:43:26.100 --> 0:43:29.460 have such a large cloud of witnesses surrounding us, and 0:43:29.460 --> 0:43:32.910 so they presume that the they know that it's talking 0:43:32.910 --> 0:43:36.960 about the people in Hebrews 11. Right. Mhm. And they 0:43:36.989 --> 0:43:39.660 are a cloud of witnesses. So they presume that the 0:43:39.660 --> 0:43:44.550 witnesses are witnessing what we do on earth. And so 0:43:44.550 --> 0:43:46.650 they say, oh look, dead people can see us. That's 0:43:46.650 --> 0:43:49.920 not what Hebrews 11 is saying. The word witness means 0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:54.029 to testify. Right. If a person goes on trial and 0:43:54.030 --> 0:43:56.759 is called as a witness, they testify. And so what 0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:59.670 it's saying is, since we have such a large cloud 0:43:59.670 --> 0:44:05.160 of testifiers, of people who testify to the value of faith, 0:44:05.580 --> 0:44:09.600 then we should also exercise our faith in the same way. 0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:12.750 And so they're there testifying to the value of faith. 0:44:12.750 --> 0:44:15.960 And they are not witnessing what we do when we die. 0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:19.380 We don't become little gods that become omniscient. We go 0:44:19.380 --> 0:44:22.170 into the presence of the Lord. But God's admonition we're not. 0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.899 We don't become God. And so we can't see everything 0:44:24.900 --> 0:44:26.939 that's going on. I know a woman wrote in and 0:44:26.940 --> 0:44:30.690 she was concerned that her mother would be seeing, uh, 0:44:30.690 --> 0:44:32.339 what she and her husband are doing, and she thought 0:44:32.340 --> 0:44:35.880 she might be upset about that and felt uncomfortable with 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:40.230 her mother watching her on Earth. And I'm like, no, 0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:44.460 you're honestly, if your mother is with the Lord, she's 0:44:44.489 --> 0:44:47.759 a little bit more interested in him than she is 0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:52.290 in you. And that's an encouraging thing for us. So no, 0:44:52.290 --> 0:44:55.560 we're not we're they're not watching us. So. 0:44:55.590 --> 0:44:57.569 All right. Yeah. All right. We'll try and squeeze in 0:44:57.580 --> 0:45:00.100 one last question. Okay. Michael wants to know what the 0:45:00.100 --> 0:45:03.070 Jewish faith teaches about the afterlife. Is there a heaven 0:45:03.070 --> 0:45:03.520 or hell? 0:45:03.550 --> 0:45:06.460 I just taught that my Jewish religious thought class. Jewish. 0:45:06.489 --> 0:45:08.529 Did you answer this question then? I will. Okay, good. 0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:11.710 I said in class that you get two Jews. You 0:45:11.710 --> 0:45:14.110 get three opinions. That's something we all live with. The 0:45:14.110 --> 0:45:16.089 fact that I'm Jewish. You know, I changed my mind 0:45:16.090 --> 0:45:19.060 from day to day. But the. If you go to 0:45:19.090 --> 0:45:24.129 rabbinic theology, Judaism teaches that there's that the perfectly righteous 0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:29.110 go to Paradise immediately. If you're if you never sin, 0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:31.120 that must be a very small group of people. But 0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:34.300 they say there's some that go to God, to Paradise. 0:45:34.330 --> 0:45:38.950 Immediately the perfectly wicked go to Gehinnom, which is hell. 0:45:39.430 --> 0:45:42.400 And they are. They suffer there for a year and 0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:47.200 then they're exterminated. And then there's ordinary people who go 0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:50.649 to who both have both good and bad. They go 0:45:50.650 --> 0:45:54.790 to Gehinnom and they are purged. And after a year 0:45:54.790 --> 0:45:57.570 they go into the presence of God in Paradise. And 0:45:57.570 --> 0:46:01.109 that's rabbinic theology. I don't think it's right, but that's 0:46:01.110 --> 0:46:05.279 what rabbinic theology in the Talmud teaches. Well, can you 0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:08.460 believe it? The first hour of Open Line is a fast. Yeah, 0:46:08.489 --> 0:46:12.120 don't go away. Stick around. Because I'm most of these stations. 0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.220 There's a second hour of open line. 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