WEBVTT - Hour 2: More Bible Q & A with Steven Sanchez 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:11.719 Hello friends. It's time for the second hour of Open 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.920 Line with Doctor Michael Radonich Moody Radio's Bible Study Across America, 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:18.770 where we're taking your questions about the Bible, God and 0:00:18.770 --> 0:00:22.280 the spiritual life. I'm Doctor Steven Sanchez in the studio 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:25.940 for Doctor Who's leading a tour of Greece and Turkey, 0:00:25.940 --> 0:00:27.800 and I think they're going to go to Rome, too. 0:00:27.830 --> 0:00:30.620 What a great opportunity for him. I'm a professor of 0:00:30.620 --> 0:00:33.409 Bible at the Moody Bible Institute in Chicago, and I 0:00:33.409 --> 0:00:35.600 teach on the faculty with Michael. If you have a 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:45.500 Bible question, you can call us now at (877) 548-3675. That's (877) 548-3675. 0:00:45.530 --> 0:00:47.960 You can also send us your question at our website, 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.950 Open Line radio.org. Look for the Ask Michael a question 0:00:51.950 --> 0:00:53.750 form and fill it out. And we'll get to the 0:00:53.750 --> 0:00:56.360 mailbag and answer some questions that have been sent in 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.450 later in the program. Keep your Bibles open. Go get 0:00:59.450 --> 0:01:01.740 a second cup of coffee, because we're going right back 0:01:01.740 --> 0:01:04.290 to the phones with more of your questions. Let's start 0:01:04.290 --> 0:01:08.280 with Lynn in Chicago listening on our very own wmbi. Lynn, 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:09.720 what's your question this morning? 0:01:10.590 --> 0:01:13.830 Oh good morning. I just love it when you're on. Um, 0:01:13.830 --> 0:01:18.540 my question is, doctor, I'm on. I'm a volunteer ordained chaplain, 0:01:18.540 --> 0:01:23.520 and my platform has been the singleness. I see so 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:28.890 many Christians fornicating, and they're they're strong Christians. And I 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.350 am in awe of this because First Corinthians, as you 0:01:31.350 --> 0:01:34.650 know what it says, will not make heaven. And I 0:01:34.650 --> 0:01:38.070 even see people that are on TV, you know, I 0:01:38.069 --> 0:01:41.520 won't mention names that that are professing to be such 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.310 good Christians, but then they're going together for many years 0:01:44.310 --> 0:01:49.410 or living together. I just ask you, Will will fornicators, 0:01:49.410 --> 0:01:53.220 if they're Christian people, will they make heaven or not? 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:57.180 Let's let's say this let's back up from that particular 0:01:57.180 --> 0:01:59.050 sin and we'll get back to it in just a second. 0:01:59.050 --> 0:02:01.630 But back up from that one and say, well, any 0:02:01.630 --> 0:02:06.310 sinners make it into heaven, right? Will anyone who sins 0:02:06.310 --> 0:02:10.450 make it into heaven? I think the answer is, I 0:02:10.450 --> 0:02:14.619 think the answer is we. We sin today. People speed 0:02:14.620 --> 0:02:17.350 down the highway and they break the law. They don't 0:02:17.350 --> 0:02:21.220 always tell the truth. They are not honest with their finances. 0:02:21.220 --> 0:02:25.179 They are unfaithful in a variety of their commitments. On 0:02:25.180 --> 0:02:29.079 one level, people sin even after we've come to Christ 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.270 and we fight that as hard as we can. With 0:02:31.270 --> 0:02:33.880 the power of the Holy Spirit, we try and we 0:02:33.910 --> 0:02:35.650 keep trying, and that's what we have to do, right? 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:38.950 The believers down through the centuries have talked about ourselves 0:02:38.950 --> 0:02:43.030 as saints and sinners at the same time. And yet 0:02:43.030 --> 0:02:46.660 we see verses like this. Hey, now these kind of 0:02:46.660 --> 0:02:52.929 people will not inherit the kingdom of God. Fornicators, nor idolaters, adulterers, homosexuals, sodomites, thieves, covetous, 0:02:52.930 --> 0:02:55.810 nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners. They're not going to 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:59.930 inherit the kingdom of God. Notice, such were some of you. 0:02:59.960 --> 0:03:02.990 You guys. Paul writing to the Corinthians. You used to 0:03:02.990 --> 0:03:06.260 be like that. Don't be like that. I think what 0:03:06.260 --> 0:03:08.780 Paul is saying there is people who have come to 0:03:08.810 --> 0:03:11.900 Christ ought not be living like people who are not 0:03:11.900 --> 0:03:15.770 going to the kingdom. People who are called by the 0:03:15.770 --> 0:03:18.860 name of Christ, their lives should look differently. They should 0:03:18.860 --> 0:03:22.040 not be idolaters. They should not be adulterers. They should 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.010 not be fornicators. So the people that you've mentioned that 0:03:25.010 --> 0:03:27.860 you know who are believers, you might look at them 0:03:27.860 --> 0:03:32.150 and say, hey, you're a Christian. Live like one. Christians 0:03:32.150 --> 0:03:36.590 don't do these things. I'm going to leave whether or 0:03:36.590 --> 0:03:39.650 not they get into heaven up to the Lord. But 0:03:39.650 --> 0:03:42.890 I would advise them very strongly, hey, you're behaving like 0:03:42.890 --> 0:03:46.490 somebody who is not going to the kingdom. Does that 0:03:46.490 --> 0:03:46.940 make sense? 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.520 I can't talk to them because they're on television. Some 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.490 of them. But, doctor, I understand what you're saying. Because 0:03:52.490 --> 0:03:55.130 I would love to. And I used to live like that, 0:03:55.130 --> 0:03:58.250 and that's why I know firsthand sexual sin is a 0:03:58.250 --> 0:04:00.410 is a very egregious sin. And I can tell you 0:04:00.410 --> 0:04:02.660 the consequences because I've done it. 0:04:03.290 --> 0:04:06.740 I agree with you 100%. What I'm what I'm suggesting 0:04:06.740 --> 0:04:09.710 is that perhaps it's not our job to decide if 0:04:09.710 --> 0:04:11.210 they're going to make it in or not. That's a 0:04:11.210 --> 0:04:13.369 question I'm going to leave for the Lord. But your 0:04:13.370 --> 0:04:16.490 provoked conscience is right on point. I mean, I have 0:04:16.490 --> 0:04:18.560 students who live this way too, right? And I say, hey, 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.229 you are you are here at school to study the 0:04:21.230 --> 0:04:23.840 Word of God. What are you doing? Living like someone 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.240 who's rejecting the Word of God? Don't do that. I 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.270 think Paul's point here is don't live that way. You 0:04:29.300 --> 0:04:31.969 used to be like that. But you were washed, you 0:04:31.970 --> 0:04:34.339 were sanctified. You were justified in the name of the 0:04:34.339 --> 0:04:37.609 Lord Jesus by the Spirit of God. His point is, 0:04:37.610 --> 0:04:40.909 why are you living that way? Don't do that anymore. 0:04:41.330 --> 0:04:42.110 Does that help? 0:04:42.140 --> 0:04:44.839 Well, they say to me, they say, well, yes it does, doctor, 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.570 thank you. But they do say, well, God forgives and 0:04:47.570 --> 0:04:50.000 we're in love. It's only him so. But I say, 0:04:50.029 --> 0:04:52.250 you know, God can't bless sin. And I tell them, 0:04:52.250 --> 0:04:53.420 just like Paul, I used to. 0:04:53.420 --> 0:04:54.050 Do it. 0:04:54.060 --> 0:04:56.460 And I can tell you I missed a lot of blessings, 0:04:56.460 --> 0:04:59.190 but thank you. You're welcome when you're on. You're wonderful. 0:04:59.190 --> 0:05:01.710 Thank you. You're welcome. Great to hear from you. Let's 0:05:01.710 --> 0:05:05.430 go to Alex in Wheaton, listening again on Wmbi. Alex, 0:05:05.430 --> 0:05:06.930 what's your question this morning? 0:05:08.580 --> 0:05:11.279 Hey, Steve, I'm a big fan of the show. Um, 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.980 I got a question. Just like how to interpret books 0:05:13.980 --> 0:05:16.290 of the Bible in the Old Testament. Something like The 0:05:16.290 --> 0:05:19.890 Songs of Solomon. Does that? Do you have to read that? 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.219 Does it point? Does the Song of Solomon point to Jesus, 0:05:23.220 --> 0:05:27.210 or is it, um, do you have to read it 0:05:27.210 --> 0:05:29.820 just in and of itself altogether? Do you know what 0:05:29.820 --> 0:05:30.240 I mean? 0:05:30.270 --> 0:05:33.120 I do, it's a it's a question that comes up often. 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.940 How do we read the Old Testament? And I think 0:05:35.940 --> 0:05:37.830 the way we do that is to read the Old 0:05:37.860 --> 0:05:42.750 Testament in its original context, in its historical context. And 0:05:42.750 --> 0:05:45.330 we also have to read it through the lens of 0:05:45.330 --> 0:05:48.419 Jesus Christ. Why? Because we're Christians. I had a teacher 0:05:48.420 --> 0:05:50.909 at school, Eugene Merrill. I was making a point in 0:05:50.910 --> 0:05:53.320 one of my classes saying, no, we should just read 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:56.080 the Bible in its original context. And he says to me, well, 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.260 would your exegesis be any different than a Jewish person? 0:05:59.260 --> 0:06:02.349 And of course I said, absolutely. And he said, how? 0:06:02.350 --> 0:06:05.260 And he got me. I realized that what I was 0:06:05.260 --> 0:06:09.580 trying to argue for was interpreting only in its original context, 0:06:09.580 --> 0:06:12.490 and not also through the lens of Christ. We have to, 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.239 as believers, do. What early Christians did. They read the 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:20.589 Old Testament, they read Tanakh, and they looked backwards through 0:06:20.589 --> 0:06:23.560 the cross, through the resurrection, through the life of Christ. 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.860 And they interpreted that Old Testament in light of their 0:06:26.860 --> 0:06:32.200 new Savior. So I think wherever you are in this world, America, Canada, 0:06:32.230 --> 0:06:35.080 anywhere else, you make sure that you read the Old 0:06:35.110 --> 0:06:37.750 Testament through the lens of Christ, a book like The 0:06:37.750 --> 0:06:41.950 Song of Solomon. That's an interesting book. It really seems 0:06:41.950 --> 0:06:46.390 to have very specific application to the relationship between a 0:06:46.390 --> 0:06:51.219 man and his new bride, soon to be bride, then bride. Um, 0:06:51.250 --> 0:06:55.390 but we would be hard pressed to not say. Marriage 0:06:55.420 --> 0:06:59.050 is also a an example of the relationship between Christ 0:06:59.050 --> 0:07:01.630 and his church. We read that in the New Testament. 0:07:01.630 --> 0:07:04.390 And so I would look at Song of Solomon and say, 0:07:04.420 --> 0:07:08.320 interpret it in its original context. It's a wonderful love poem. 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:12.940 And then recognize that wherever marriage is recognized, wherever there's 0:07:12.970 --> 0:07:16.780 a healthy marriage on display, what you see there is 0:07:16.780 --> 0:07:19.990 a model of Christ and His church where he loves 0:07:19.990 --> 0:07:24.340 his church, and the bride looks to him the way 0:07:24.430 --> 0:07:28.150 a earthly bride looks to her new bridegroom. Does that help? 0:07:29.290 --> 0:07:30.340 That does. Thank you Steve. 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.460 You're welcome. Great question. Thank you. Let's do another one. 0:07:33.460 --> 0:07:38.320 Let's talk to Sherry, who is driving. Be careful listening 0:07:38.350 --> 0:07:40.660 in Cleveland on Wtxf. 0:07:42.340 --> 0:07:43.630 Good morning. 0:07:43.660 --> 0:07:44.170 Hi. 0:07:44.170 --> 0:07:49.720 Good morning. Um, thank you for taking my call. Um, 0:07:49.730 --> 0:07:55.610 so my question is, uh, with the election coming up, um, 0:07:55.880 --> 0:08:02.960 I'm very unsettled about both candidates. And for the first 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:04.880 time in my life, I feel like I don't want 0:08:04.910 --> 0:08:09.230 to vote. Um, I know that the Lord has this. 0:08:09.260 --> 0:08:12.590 You know, no matter who wins or what happens in 0:08:12.590 --> 0:08:14.780 the world, that the King of Kings and the Lord 0:08:14.780 --> 0:08:18.530 of Lords reigns over us, and that he's got us, 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:22.730 that he he is the victor. Um, and I'm really 0:08:22.730 --> 0:08:28.700 struggling with deciding which one to vote for. Yeah, usually 0:08:28.700 --> 0:08:31.130 I vote for one party and I'm having a hard time. 0:08:31.130 --> 0:08:33.470 And I just wondered, um, a lot of people are 0:08:33.470 --> 0:08:36.230 telling me, like, it's your responsibility to vote. You have 0:08:36.230 --> 0:08:39.800 to vote. You know, um, if you don't vote, you're 0:08:39.980 --> 0:08:43.820 you're not, you know, doing what you should be doing. Um, 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:48.110 but I'm asking you, is there anything biblical or, um, 0:08:48.140 --> 0:08:52.530 you know, that support that I should vote even. Even 0:08:52.530 --> 0:08:54.540 if I'm not sure about it. Because I'm not sure 0:08:54.540 --> 0:08:55.410 about either person. 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.930 This is this is a question all but all believers 0:08:57.929 --> 0:09:00.210 are facing, right? We're all facing it right now. And I, 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.400 of course, am not going to endorse any candidate on 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:06.990 this show today. Uh, but your, your the sense you 0:09:06.990 --> 0:09:11.400 have that your heart and your confidence and your trust 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.710 in the Lord should be in the Lord above all 0:09:13.710 --> 0:09:17.070 things I think is key. Hang on to that above 0:09:17.070 --> 0:09:21.000 all else. God is sovereign and he is in control 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.850 of all things. It doesn't matter who sits in that seat. 0:09:23.940 --> 0:09:27.960 God is in control. We can have confidence and trust 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.050 if our country goes one way. The Lord is in control. 0:09:31.050 --> 0:09:33.360 If it goes another way, the Lord is in control. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.400 If we don't get what we want, the Lord is 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.670 in control. Don't ever let that go. Do you have 0:09:38.670 --> 0:09:42.210 to vote? Is it required? I don't think so. I 0:09:42.210 --> 0:09:44.460 don't think, I don't think the Bible says you have 0:09:44.460 --> 0:09:47.620 to do this. You can do this. I think many 0:09:47.620 --> 0:09:51.730 would argue that as people who are permitted to participate, 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:55.300 it's a great privilege, but it's not required. It is 0:09:55.300 --> 0:09:59.319 not required from Scripture. Instead, what is required is that 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.830 we keep our confidence in the Lord himself. He's the 0:10:02.830 --> 0:10:06.910 one that is sovereign over all things. So rest in 0:10:06.910 --> 0:10:11.860 him and take confidence. He knows what's going on. Does 0:10:11.860 --> 0:10:12.730 that help? 0:10:12.940 --> 0:10:14.979 Thank you for your expert. Yes, thank you for your 0:10:14.980 --> 0:10:17.920 expert advice. I really appreciate it. That gives me a 0:10:17.950 --> 0:10:20.229 lot of comfort knowing that, you know, I don't have 0:10:20.230 --> 0:10:20.980 to choose. 0:10:21.010 --> 0:10:23.860 That's right, that's right. And it's a hard choice. I 0:10:23.860 --> 0:10:27.880 recognize that, I recognize it's a hard choice. And so 0:10:27.910 --> 0:10:31.689 I'm sure believers all over this country right now are thinking, Lord, 0:10:31.690 --> 0:10:34.810 what do we do? Where do we go? How do 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.809 how do we make a good choice here? So thank you. Yeah. 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.390 Keep your confidence in the Lord. Don't forget that he's 0:10:40.390 --> 0:10:43.059 in charge. He's never going to let you go. Let's 0:10:43.059 --> 0:10:45.340 go to share. Oh, no. That was Sherry. Let's go 0:10:45.340 --> 0:10:48.819 to Marisha in Georgia listening on Wlp. 0:10:50.500 --> 0:10:54.700 Hi, I have a question. So I have a question 0:10:54.700 --> 0:11:00.550 regarding John 1513 where it says greater love has no 0:11:00.550 --> 0:11:04.360 one to lay down their life for one's life, for 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:09.160 one's friends. So is that verse saying, that is Jesus 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:13.780 saying that we should lay down our lives for our friends? 0:11:13.780 --> 0:11:17.620 Or is that like, um, a parable? Just saying that 0:11:17.620 --> 0:11:20.530 we should love other people. 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:24.520 What a what an amazing statement, right? For Jesus to 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:29.410 say this is an example of what love looks like. You. 0:11:29.500 --> 0:11:33.580 There's no better way than if you sacrifice yourself for 0:11:33.580 --> 0:11:37.120 someone else. That's the best example that we can possibly have. 0:11:37.150 --> 0:11:39.250 I don't think Jesus is saying that you have to 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.590 sacrifice yourself for all your friends. I think he's giving 0:11:41.590 --> 0:11:45.050 an example of the best kind of love that people 0:11:45.050 --> 0:11:48.110 can experience. If you have friends that betray you, you 0:11:48.110 --> 0:11:50.540 know what that feels like. If you have friends that are, 0:11:50.570 --> 0:11:53.569 you know, kind of mid, they're there for you. Sometimes 0:11:53.570 --> 0:11:55.610 they're not there for you all the time. You know 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.130 what that feels like to have a friend who's willing 0:11:58.160 --> 0:11:59.989 to lay down his life for you or for her 0:11:59.990 --> 0:12:01.910 to lay down her life for you. I have friends 0:12:01.910 --> 0:12:05.660 who have given kidneys, organs to other friends, and you 0:12:05.660 --> 0:12:08.689 just say, whoa, sacrificing a part of their body for 0:12:08.690 --> 0:12:11.450 someone else. That is a great example of love. And 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.100 what I think we have here is not so much 0:12:13.130 --> 0:12:15.860 a command for us, but rather coming as it is 0:12:15.860 --> 0:12:19.100 in John 15, a statement of what true love looks 0:12:19.100 --> 0:12:22.040 like from Jesus Christ. He has laid down his life 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:25.429 for us, literally. He's done that literally for us. 0:12:25.460 --> 0:12:28.340 But not saying that we should die for somebody. 0:12:28.340 --> 0:12:30.979 I do not think he's making a command about that. Rather, 0:12:30.980 --> 0:12:33.980 he's talking about. Right. The chapter begins. I am the 0:12:33.980 --> 0:12:36.800 true vine. The father is the gardener. Verse five I 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.140 am the vine, you're the branches. The father has loved me, 0:12:39.140 --> 0:12:42.380 so I love you. Jesus is talking about himself, his ministry, 0:12:42.380 --> 0:12:45.580 the father's ministry. It's not a command for us. Now, 0:12:45.580 --> 0:12:47.860 you might find yourself in a circumstance where you have 0:12:47.860 --> 0:12:49.480 to lay down your life for a friend. I think 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.990 of all our service members who go into conflict overseas 0:12:52.990 --> 0:12:55.930 and find themselves in situations where they're quite literally laying 0:12:55.929 --> 0:12:57.940 down their lives for us or for the people in 0:12:57.940 --> 0:13:01.030 their unit. And we have great respect for that because 0:13:01.030 --> 0:13:03.640 it's a demonstration of love. Can I suggest that when 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:05.500 we see those sorts of things, they remind us of 0:13:05.500 --> 0:13:09.760 Christ who went into battle for us to lay down 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.970 his life for us, who are his friends because we've 0:13:12.970 --> 0:13:15.160 believed the gospel. Does that help? 0:13:16.510 --> 0:13:18.640 Yeah, it does help. Good. 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.270 Good, good. Thank you. It's a tough one. How do 0:13:22.270 --> 0:13:24.609 we lay down our lives? In some cases, we have 0:13:24.610 --> 0:13:29.320 friends that we love, and we don't want to necessarily 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:34.030 give everything for them. And we recognize that we are imperfect, 0:13:34.030 --> 0:13:38.530 imperfect individuals. But Christ laid down the perfect sacrifice for us. 0:13:38.530 --> 0:13:42.340 And as a result, we love him with great, great love. 0:13:43.150 --> 0:13:46.179 This is it. Let's take a break here and we'll 0:13:46.179 --> 0:13:49.390 be back. I'm doctor Steven Sanchez in for Michael. You're 0:13:49.390 --> 0:13:53.170 listening to Open Line with doctor Michael Dolnick. Moody Radio's 0:13:53.170 --> 0:13:56.260 Bible study Across America. Do you have a question? The 0:13:56.260 --> 0:14:05.770 number to call is (877) 548-3675. Again (877) 548-3675. And when we 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:13.120 come back Jack, we're going to take your question again. 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Let's go straight to the 0:15:35.870 --> 0:15:39.230 phones Jack listening in Ohio on Wtxf. CRF. How can 0:15:39.230 --> 0:15:40.340 I help you this morning? 0:15:41.450 --> 0:15:45.590 Yes. I have a question about the parable in Luke 0:15:45.860 --> 0:15:50.120 of the rich man and the poor man, Lazarus. It 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:55.310 said that the poor man laid outside the gate and 0:15:55.580 --> 0:15:59.420 was wishing for crumbs, and when he died, he was 0:15:59.450 --> 0:16:03.890 ushered up into Abraham's bosom, which is heaven. And then 0:16:03.890 --> 0:16:07.640 when the rich man died, he went to Hades. What 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.820 I'm wondering is why? What did the what qualified the 0:16:10.850 --> 0:16:13.970 poor man to go to heaven? And what was the 0:16:13.970 --> 0:16:16.760 sin of the rich man that he was? Went to Hades? 0:16:16.850 --> 0:16:21.440 Yeah. So this is during Jesus ministry, right? Jesus gives 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:25.310 this parable and he seems to be focusing on the 0:16:25.310 --> 0:16:30.110 fact that people need to listen to the revelation they 0:16:30.110 --> 0:16:34.220 have been given and behave in such a way that 0:16:34.220 --> 0:16:38.490 they are demonstrating their faith in the revelation that they 0:16:38.490 --> 0:16:41.370 have been given. And at this point, Jesus has not 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:46.140 died yet. And so we're dealing with Jewish people living 0:16:46.140 --> 0:16:50.040 the ordinances and commands that God has given in the law. 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.700 And in this case, the rich man was not doing that. 0:16:53.700 --> 0:16:57.660 All the commandments to care for fellow Israelites, to take 0:16:57.660 --> 0:17:03.420 care of the poor, provide for widows and orphans and strangers, 0:17:03.420 --> 0:17:06.930 people in their distress, things that we're going to see 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.420 repeated for us in the New Testament. But at the time, 0:17:09.420 --> 0:17:13.620 there you have Jews who are not living those things 0:17:13.619 --> 0:17:18.000 and yet claiming to be children of God. And I 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.360 think what Jesus is saying here is, no, that's not fair. 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.670 That's not right. God said, you should live this way, 0:17:23.700 --> 0:17:26.070 not that way. If you're going to demonstrate true faith 0:17:26.070 --> 0:17:29.070 in the God of Israel, that means doing the things 0:17:29.070 --> 0:17:32.040 he has. And we see that at the end that 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:35.700 rich man says, hey, listen, I beg you, father, send 0:17:35.770 --> 0:17:38.919 Lazarus to my father's house, for I have five brothers 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:40.900 so that he can warn them. I don't want them 0:17:40.900 --> 0:17:43.510 to come to this place. What does Abraham say in 0:17:43.510 --> 0:17:47.890 verse 29 of Luke 16? Abraham said, they have Moses 0:17:47.890 --> 0:17:52.570 and the prophets. Let them hear them. I think Abraham 0:17:52.570 --> 0:17:54.100 is saying, if you don't, your brothers don't want to 0:17:54.100 --> 0:17:58.240 come here. Obey what God has revealed in the law 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.690 and the prophets, because that demonstrates faith. It's not that 0:18:01.690 --> 0:18:05.260 obeying the law is going to save you, but obeying 0:18:05.260 --> 0:18:08.530 the law is going to demonstrate you have faith in God. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:12.730 He said, no, Father Abraham, if someone goes to them 0:18:12.730 --> 0:18:15.520 from the dead, they will repent. And he says it again. 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.980 If they do not listen to Moses and the prophets, 0:18:18.010 --> 0:18:20.410 neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from 0:18:20.410 --> 0:18:23.830 the dead. The rich man was not demonstrating faith in 0:18:23.830 --> 0:18:28.149 God by obeying him. And that's the, I think, the 0:18:28.150 --> 0:18:31.270 teaching point of that section. Now, of course, we know 0:18:31.270 --> 0:18:34.030 as we move into the New Testament, we also have 0:18:34.030 --> 0:18:38.130 to obey. not to be saved, right? We were always 0:18:38.130 --> 0:18:40.199 saved by grace through faith in the Old Testament. They 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.210 were saved by grace through faith in the New Testament. 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.699 We're saved by grace through faith. But the terms of 0:18:44.730 --> 0:18:48.840 that salvation, that faith, are different. And so we have 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.689 to trust in Jesus Christ, his work for us on 0:18:51.690 --> 0:18:54.930 the cross. And that is the demonstration of faith. And 0:18:54.930 --> 0:18:57.300 then in light of that, we go live lives that 0:18:57.300 --> 0:19:00.300 honor him, which should include taking care of the poor 0:19:00.300 --> 0:19:03.180 and the needy that God brings into our lives, uh, 0:19:03.180 --> 0:19:05.640 those who are not from here, who God brings into 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:09.330 our lives, those who are desperate. We have an obligation, 0:19:09.330 --> 0:19:13.590 I think, to help them as a demonstration of the 0:19:13.590 --> 0:19:17.070 faith that God has wrought in us. Does that help, Jack? 0:19:17.580 --> 0:19:19.290 Yes. That helps. Thank you. 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:24.300 You're welcome. Let's go to Jermaine driving in Cleveland, Ohio, 0:19:24.330 --> 0:19:26.310 listening on Wtxf. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:29.610 Hello? Can you hear me? 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:31.110 I can go ahead. 0:19:33.090 --> 0:19:35.899 Um, yes. I asked you about, um, you know, when 0:19:36.050 --> 0:19:38.359 the Bible, when Jesus died on the cross and he 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:43.820 said it is finished. Um, um, he died for our 0:19:43.820 --> 0:19:45.919 past and present sins. Correct? 0:19:46.190 --> 0:19:49.639 When Jesus died, he died for all your sins. 0:19:51.410 --> 0:19:55.909 All my sins. So all my sins. So if I 0:19:55.910 --> 0:20:00.110 was to sin, like right now, he's already paid for that, right? 0:20:00.109 --> 0:20:02.510 So my question to you would be, why would you 0:20:02.540 --> 0:20:04.609 sin right now if you could avoid it? 0:20:07.070 --> 0:20:09.919 I mean, I mean, I still I'm a sinner. I 0:20:09.950 --> 0:20:11.000 sin every day. 0:20:11.810 --> 0:20:15.410 Welcome to the club, friend. Right. We are saints and 0:20:15.410 --> 0:20:18.169 sinners at the same time. So if if the if 0:20:18.170 --> 0:20:22.490 the spirit behind the question is. Lord, I am never perfect. 0:20:22.609 --> 0:20:27.020 I sin, are my sins forgiven? I would say to 0:20:27.020 --> 0:20:31.369 you the answer is absolutely yes. And the effect of 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:35.790 that should be for me to work on it in 0:20:35.790 --> 0:20:38.490 the power of the spirit, allowing the spirit to change me, 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:42.540 conform me into the image of Christ, resist sin as 0:20:42.540 --> 0:20:45.750 much as I can. Now, if the spirit of the 0:20:45.750 --> 0:20:47.459 question I don't think this is your spirit, but I 0:20:47.460 --> 0:20:51.149 can hear someone else asking the question, well, since my 0:20:51.150 --> 0:20:55.590 sins are all forgiven because Christ has already forgiven all 0:20:55.590 --> 0:21:00.270 my sins, that means I can do whatever I want. 0:21:01.020 --> 0:21:05.010 And I think Paul answers that issue in Romans chapter six. 0:21:05.010 --> 0:21:07.920 What shall we say then? Are we to continue in 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.730 sin so that grace may abound? He says no way. 0:21:11.730 --> 0:21:15.570 Just because God gives grace and more grace, when there's 0:21:15.570 --> 0:21:18.450 more sin, more grace abounds does not mean we get 0:21:18.450 --> 0:21:23.429 to turn that freedom into a liberty, or a license 0:21:23.430 --> 0:21:26.820 to sin at will. Does that help? 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:33.010 Yeah. Um, I have one more question before you let 0:21:33.010 --> 0:21:33.490 me go. 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:34.659 Go ahead, go ahead. 0:21:34.690 --> 0:21:36.940 Do I have to get. Do I have to get 0:21:36.940 --> 0:21:38.320 baptized to go to heaven? 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.160 Again, my question to you would be why wouldn't you 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:43.419 get baptized? 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.750 I'm saying. I'm saying because some people say that that's, um, 0:21:49.780 --> 0:21:51.429 you got to get baptized. 0:21:51.430 --> 0:21:52.119 I would say to you. 0:21:52.150 --> 0:21:52.990 That, um. 0:21:53.020 --> 0:21:55.630 I would say to you, the thief on the cross, 0:21:55.630 --> 0:21:58.000 the thief on the cross did not have the opportunity 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:00.550 to be baptized. And Jesus said to him, today, you 0:22:00.550 --> 0:22:03.639 will be with me in Paradise. There are probably many 0:22:03.670 --> 0:22:06.550 throughout history who turn to Christ and were not able 0:22:06.550 --> 0:22:09.670 to get baptized. So I would say, no, it's not 0:22:09.670 --> 0:22:13.180 a requirement in that sense. But I would also say 0:22:13.180 --> 0:22:16.210 to any Christian who says, I'm a believer, I'm claiming 0:22:16.210 --> 0:22:18.640 the name of Christ. I would say to that person, 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.610 why wouldn't you be baptized? What's holding you back from 0:22:21.609 --> 0:22:24.250 getting baptized? And if the answer is, well, I don't 0:22:24.250 --> 0:22:26.860 want to identify with Jesus that way, I would say, oh, 0:22:26.890 --> 0:22:30.080 let's talk about what it means for you to follow 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:32.869 Christ if you don't want to identify with him publicly. 0:22:32.869 --> 0:22:34.970 I can see that there are some, probably some parts 0:22:34.970 --> 0:22:39.950 of the world where actual physical baptism is very traumatic. 0:22:40.460 --> 0:22:43.100 But even in those places, we see men and women 0:22:43.100 --> 0:22:46.580 come to faith. In other countries where becoming a believer 0:22:46.580 --> 0:22:51.290 is catastrophic for their relationships and their social standing. And 0:22:51.290 --> 0:22:54.320 you know what? Very often they take that step and 0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:57.140 they identify with Christ all the way. So I would 0:22:57.140 --> 0:23:00.170 say it is something that Christ commanded us to do, 0:23:00.170 --> 0:23:04.190 and we should do it. If you die before you're baptized, 0:23:04.190 --> 0:23:05.780 does that mean you don't go to heaven? I do 0:23:05.780 --> 0:23:09.650 not think the Bible teaches that. Okay. Thank you. That's 0:23:09.650 --> 0:23:13.790 a helpful question. Let's go to Maritza in Naples, Florida, 0:23:13.790 --> 0:23:17.390 listening on Warsaw. Maritza, how can I help you this morning? 0:23:18.260 --> 0:23:23.930 Hi. Good morning. Let's go to revelation chapter 20. Uh, 0:23:23.930 --> 0:23:31.800 verse seven is The um in the light after the tribulation, 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:38.310 when the Armageddon is over, the Jews, all the nations, 0:23:38.310 --> 0:23:42.150 destroys all the nations. Who are they? Who is the 0:23:42.150 --> 0:23:46.200 devil going after? In verse seven. 0:23:46.530 --> 0:23:50.940 Uh, so remember that this is the thousand years are over. I, 0:23:50.940 --> 0:23:53.189 and most of my colleagues, or all of my colleagues 0:23:53.190 --> 0:23:56.550 at Moody, would argue that the millennial kingdom has happened. 0:23:56.580 --> 0:24:01.200 Let's remember that during that millennial kingdom, uh, people will 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:05.340 be born, right? People will be born in that kingdom, 0:24:05.340 --> 0:24:09.060 and they will be people who have to make a 0:24:09.060 --> 0:24:11.459 choice to follow the Lord who is ruling and reigning 0:24:11.460 --> 0:24:16.350 or not. And so when Satan is released, he is 0:24:16.350 --> 0:24:21.120 going to, uh, work on those people and to deceive 0:24:21.150 --> 0:24:24.780 the nations who are still on the earth and turn 0:24:24.780 --> 0:24:27.630 them against Christ. And so there will be there will 0:24:27.630 --> 0:24:32.340 be people for him to deceive, and he will do 0:24:32.369 --> 0:24:34.710 his work on those people. And that's important to remember 0:24:34.710 --> 0:24:37.200 that in the Millennial Kingdom, there will be people born 0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.979 who will not necessarily submit to Christ, and they will 0:24:40.980 --> 0:24:44.970 leave themselves open to satanic attack. He will deceive them. 0:24:45.420 --> 0:24:49.020 And it's a reminder that wherever we are, we have 0:24:49.020 --> 0:24:52.320 to be careful. Be open to that satanic attack. Thank 0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:56.700 you for your question this morning. Don't go anywhere. Don't 0:24:56.700 --> 0:25:00.330 go anywhere because we're going to keep taking your calls. 0:25:00.330 --> 0:25:03.960 We're going to keep going. And in a little bit 0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:06.929 we have, uh, the mailbag coming up. Some of you 0:25:06.930 --> 0:25:09.690 have sent in questions ahead of time. If you have 0:25:09.690 --> 0:25:11.790 a question to ask, the number for you to call 0:25:11.790 --> 0:25:21.570 this morning is 87754836758775483675. 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One thing I do want 0:26:52.310 --> 0:26:56.000 to mention quickly is coming up on November 9th is 0:26:56.030 --> 0:27:00.140 a summit on opposing anti-Semitism. This is near and dear 0:27:00.170 --> 0:27:03.800 to to Michael's heart as a Jewish follower of Jesus. 0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:07.639 And he, um, he's one of the main speakers at this, 0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:11.420 but it'll address. What does it mean to be anti-Semitic? 0:27:11.450 --> 0:27:15.080 Those attacks are on the rise. anti-Semitism is where does 0:27:15.109 --> 0:27:18.200 anti-Semitism come from? What are its origins? And then how 0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:21.500 can we, as followers of Jesus, oppose anti-Semitism and support 0:27:21.500 --> 0:27:24.969 the Jewish people? It is Saturday, November 9th. It's a 0:27:24.970 --> 0:27:29.740 one day conference basically put on by Moody Bible Institute 0:27:29.740 --> 0:27:32.230 and Chosen People Ministries. It will be on the campus 0:27:32.230 --> 0:27:35.470 of Moody. 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They're in Corinth today, 0:28:10.270 --> 0:28:13.210 and they've been posting pictures on our Facebook page, which 0:28:13.210 --> 0:28:16.090 is kind of fun. They're beautiful, amazing, beautiful pictures. And 0:28:16.090 --> 0:28:18.040 so if you want to see where he's at, he 0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:20.590 will be back in two weeks. Next week we have 0:28:20.590 --> 0:28:23.790 Mike Favara sitting in to guest host Open Line and 0:28:23.790 --> 0:28:25.830 Steven Sanchez here today. You know. 0:28:25.859 --> 0:28:27.989 Sometimes people ask, should I go to Israel? Should I 0:28:27.990 --> 0:28:29.850 go to Turkey? Should I go to Greece? How important 0:28:29.850 --> 0:28:31.950 is it to see those things? And I take trips 0:28:31.950 --> 0:28:34.439 and I like to tell people, listen, it's about understanding 0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:38.370 your Bible more accurately, because these things were written to 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:42.390 a context. And sometimes seeing that context helps. It's not 0:28:42.390 --> 0:28:45.510 so much about going to walk where Paul walked, because 0:28:45.510 --> 0:28:47.760 you might get a little extra something because you stepped 0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:49.920 on the same stones that Paul walked on. Yeah, right. 0:28:49.950 --> 0:28:51.600 I like to tell my students, we go to walk 0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.810 where Jesus walked to learn to walk, how Jesus walked. 0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.780 And that's more important. If we understand our Bibles better, 0:28:57.780 --> 0:29:00.330 that should help us. Yes, yes. Great. What do we 0:29:00.330 --> 0:29:00.810 got today? 0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:04.110 Well, follow me, I have I have a follow up 0:29:04.110 --> 0:29:08.310 question for you. Yeah. Um, about the voting question. Sure. No, 0:29:08.340 --> 0:29:11.070 it's not a surprise. We had lots of listeners. Yeah. 0:29:11.100 --> 0:29:14.280 A little bit. Um, lots of listeners had follow ups. Um, 0:29:14.310 --> 0:29:18.810 because what some of them heard you saying was we 0:29:18.810 --> 0:29:22.030 should not vote as Christians. Oh, no. So I want 0:29:22.030 --> 0:29:26.320 you to be able to count on that. Um. Several saying. 0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:29.560 Isn't it the duty we have this privilege and this 0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:33.910 right as Americans that we can vote? Shouldn't we exercise that? 0:29:33.910 --> 0:29:36.880 I would say I love this. Thank you for calling 0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.910 in or writing in, because giving someone a chance to 0:29:39.910 --> 0:29:42.970 explain themselves is super helpful. Just as Christians relating to 0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:46.090 one another, making sure we hear what was actually said 0:29:46.300 --> 0:29:48.220 and we deal with this in class, it's wonderful. It 0:29:48.220 --> 0:29:50.560 feels like I'm in class. Oh please, I did not 0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:55.210 say don't vote. We we have the opportunity, the right, 0:29:55.210 --> 0:29:57.520 the privilege to vote. If the Lord lays it on 0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:00.370 your heart that you need to exercise that opportunity to vote, 0:30:00.370 --> 0:30:03.040 by all means do so. And for some, that's going 0:30:03.070 --> 0:30:05.110 to feel like an easy choice. For others, that might 0:30:05.110 --> 0:30:07.330 not feel like an easy choice. I don't want to 0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:10.210 judge the conscience of another believer who says, wow, this 0:30:10.210 --> 0:30:12.430 is a hard choice for me. But I'm not saying 0:30:12.430 --> 0:30:15.280 you shouldn't vote. That is an opportunity we have. 0:30:15.310 --> 0:30:17.830 Which is what our caller had called in to say. 0:30:17.830 --> 0:30:21.080 She That said, I don't know how to vote. Is 0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:23.390 it a sin if I don't vote? Correct. That was 0:30:23.390 --> 0:30:24.500 her question, and my. 0:30:24.500 --> 0:30:27.080 Caution would be to anyone who would listen to her 0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:31.490 and say, what is? Hey, people are individuals. We stand 0:30:31.490 --> 0:30:35.510 before God as individuals and our consciences are very individual, 0:30:35.510 --> 0:30:38.150 led by the Holy Spirit. But we all have different 0:30:38.150 --> 0:30:41.570 convictions and we have to learn to live together as believers. 0:30:41.570 --> 0:30:45.260 Some will choose to vote great and others will choose 0:30:45.260 --> 0:30:47.330 not to vote. And we have to be willing to 0:30:47.330 --> 0:30:49.490 give people the freedom to say that as well. We 0:30:49.490 --> 0:30:52.970 are one in Christ, and our identity ought to be 0:30:52.970 --> 0:30:56.780 as believers together, and that supersedes any other identity. So 0:30:56.780 --> 0:31:01.280 if you feel strongly about voting, vote. Personally, I vote, 0:31:01.580 --> 0:31:04.190 but when I meet a believer who says, oh, I'm struggling, 0:31:04.190 --> 0:31:06.350 I want to show the love of Christ to them too, 0:31:06.350 --> 0:31:09.560 and give them the freedom to have the conscience that says, okay, 0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.600 I'm going to sit this one out or and then 0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.750 let's remember that in many cases, lower level municipal elections 0:31:14.750 --> 0:31:19.530 and all kinds of things car laws, library taxes. Vote 0:31:19.530 --> 0:31:22.140 on those. You're a participant in the community where members 0:31:22.140 --> 0:31:25.080 of our community and we have that option to vote. 0:31:25.110 --> 0:31:26.310 Hope that helps. Yeah. 0:31:26.340 --> 0:31:29.580 Yeah. And someone even mentioned like, Christians in politics, like, 0:31:29.610 --> 0:31:32.580 that's a good thing, that we can be part of 0:31:32.610 --> 0:31:35.310 that municipality and those communities and different areas. 0:31:35.340 --> 0:31:37.560 God calls and trains people. I have a very good 0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.450 friend who has an I shouldn't say he's a very 0:31:39.450 --> 0:31:42.090 good friend. He's a very old friend, but he sits 0:31:42.090 --> 0:31:44.220 in some of the highest levels of government. And I'm 0:31:44.220 --> 0:31:47.460 so thankful that he is in that place. National government. 0:31:47.460 --> 0:31:51.570 I'm thankful he's there. We need believers in those places. Amen. 0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.880 But if someone says, I have a conscience, I don't 0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:55.980 want to be there. I'm not going to judge their 0:31:55.980 --> 0:31:59.130 faith or their motives or their or their their belief 0:31:59.130 --> 0:32:01.200 in Christ. I'm going to give them the freedom to 0:32:01.230 --> 0:32:02.520 make that choice for themselves. 0:32:02.550 --> 0:32:05.820 Okay. Thank you for that clarification. Um, our first our 0:32:05.820 --> 0:32:08.460 next question out of the mailbag is from Connie in Florida. 0:32:08.490 --> 0:32:12.390 She listens to keys. I believe spiritual warfare is real, 0:32:12.390 --> 0:32:14.610 and I have been trying to put on the full 0:32:14.610 --> 0:32:18.280 armor of God, as Paul describes in Ephesians six. Um, 0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.680 I usually go over these pieces of armor in my 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:24.100 mind and kind of mentally put them on to stand firm. 0:32:24.130 --> 0:32:27.400 How often should we put on this armor? 0:32:27.430 --> 0:32:31.420 So if if what Connie means here is I literally 0:32:31.420 --> 0:32:35.500 have a performative practice where I maybe model myself putting 0:32:35.500 --> 0:32:38.290 on armor. I don't think that's what the Bible is 0:32:38.290 --> 0:32:42.190 recommending here. Um, that we need to stand in front 0:32:42.190 --> 0:32:44.350 of a mirror and see ourselves putting on the armor 0:32:44.350 --> 0:32:47.290 of God. I think Paul's argument here in Ephesians six 0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:51.640 is to be prepared. Be prepared for the onslaughts that 0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:54.880 the spiritual world bring against us, that Satan brings against us. 0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:58.510 And someone will ask, well, how do I get prepared? Well, 0:32:58.510 --> 0:33:01.060 I need to be thinking about God's Word. I need 0:33:01.060 --> 0:33:03.460 to be praying. I need to be taking up the 0:33:03.460 --> 0:33:05.950 sword of the spirit. I need to be doing these things. 0:33:05.950 --> 0:33:09.310 These are the acts. These are the behaviors that will 0:33:09.310 --> 0:33:15.170 keep me prepared. Pray. Read the Bible. You don't have 0:33:15.170 --> 0:33:19.580 to stand and perform prayer, meaning like acting like you're 0:33:19.580 --> 0:33:22.550 praying or pretending you're putting on the sword. No, spend 0:33:22.550 --> 0:33:26.840 time reading the word and that's getting ready. And that's 0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:28.610 putting on the armor of God. 0:33:28.670 --> 0:33:34.520 So in doing some of our normal daily spiritual disciplines, 0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:38.000 even that is kind of the act of doing and 0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:39.590 and putting on this armor of God. 0:33:39.620 --> 0:33:42.290 Absolutely. You know, you meet someone and they say, I 0:33:42.290 --> 0:33:45.080 have Bible verses all over my house. And as I 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.870 walk from room to room, I read those verses and 0:33:47.870 --> 0:33:49.460 they remind me, you know what you're doing? You're putting 0:33:49.460 --> 0:33:52.850 on the armor of God. I have a dedicated time 0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:56.360 of prayer, whether it's before meals or before bed, or 0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:58.910 just a time of prayer, or I wear things on 0:33:58.910 --> 0:34:01.040 me that remind me to pray for this person. And 0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.380 when I see them, I pray you know what you're doing. 0:34:03.380 --> 0:34:05.209 You're putting on the armor of God. You're doing the 0:34:05.210 --> 0:34:09.230 things that make for people who are prepared. Put on 0:34:09.230 --> 0:34:13.190 the breastplate of righteousness, having your feet, uh, Prepared with 0:34:13.190 --> 0:34:15.830 the readiness of given by the gospel of peace. You've, 0:34:15.860 --> 0:34:19.490 you've you're working these things into your life. You are 0:34:19.489 --> 0:34:23.000 prepared to face what the devil will send against you. 0:34:23.060 --> 0:34:28.220 Okay, that seems much more attainable. Like sometimes when I 0:34:28.250 --> 0:34:30.770 when I read through the Armor of God, it's like 0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.830 it does become this almost ceremonial. Like I have to 0:34:33.830 --> 0:34:37.910 do this. Um, but if it's as simple as praying 0:34:37.910 --> 0:34:42.650 because it says pray, you know, like that, that's very 0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:46.370 it's not a simple fight that we're in. No, but 0:34:46.370 --> 0:34:49.819 the actions that we're taking to get ready, the repeated ness, 0:34:49.820 --> 0:34:52.759 the repetitiveness of it can get us ready for that. 0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.670 And then we are prepared when we face those temptations 0:34:55.670 --> 0:35:02.090 or face, um, persecution from a boss or something like that. Yeah. 0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:04.370 I spent many summers at a boys camp in upstate 0:35:04.370 --> 0:35:07.250 New York, Deerfoot Lodge, and we always had a quiet time. 0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:11.240 Time every day. Somebody would blow a whistle. Quiet time. 0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:14.380 And the whole camp would stop and you'd say, what's 0:35:14.380 --> 0:35:16.810 going on there? Well, these are young men getting ready 0:35:16.810 --> 0:35:19.210 to face the you know what the devil is going 0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.490 to bring. That day, we were encouraged to spend time 0:35:21.489 --> 0:35:24.130 in the word. We were encouraged to spend time to pray. 0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:25.960 You know, we don't have to do those things once 0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:29.290 a day. Many believers do that throughout the day in 0:35:29.290 --> 0:35:31.479 various ways. And I think as we do that, we 0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.540 are reloading. As the kids would say today, we're powering 0:35:34.540 --> 0:35:37.750 up our armor, right? Right, right. And we're getting ready 0:35:37.750 --> 0:35:39.520 for the things that the Lord is going to bring us. 0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:42.250 And that's critical. Yeah. It's not a one time thing. 0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.950 Yeah, yeah. Okay. Thank you for that question, Connie. We'll 0:35:44.950 --> 0:35:47.529 do one more. Sure. Go for it. Maggie in Illinois 0:35:47.530 --> 0:35:51.430 listens to WNBA and is looking at Isaiah 53 five. 0:35:51.460 --> 0:35:54.970 Is this which says, but he was pierced because of 0:35:54.969 --> 0:35:59.020 our transgressions, crushed because of our iniquities. Punishment for our 0:35:59.020 --> 0:36:02.230 peace was on him and we are healed by his wounds. 0:36:02.260 --> 0:36:04.870 Is this referring to physical healing? 0:36:04.870 --> 0:36:07.660 I do not think so. I think that this is 0:36:07.660 --> 0:36:09.940 in the broader context. Of course, if you read that 0:36:09.969 --> 0:36:13.359 whole chapter in Isaiah, what's at issue is the sinfulness 0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:16.420 of God's people and the fact that this suffering servant 0:36:16.420 --> 0:36:20.230 is going to come and atone for those sins. The 0:36:20.230 --> 0:36:23.800 focus on that passage is all of the sinfulness of 0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:26.799 of God's people. One of the earliest verses I memorized 0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:28.839 as a kid. I only know this because my mom 0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:32.020 was a faithful believer, and she made us memorize early. 0:36:32.020 --> 0:36:35.890 All we like sheep have gone astray. We have turned 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.799 each one to his own way, and the Lord has 0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.770 laid on him the iniquity of us all. Isaiah 53 0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:44.770 six and you see the theme there is our sinfulness. 0:36:45.489 --> 0:36:49.450 Our sinfulness has consequences. Sometimes the consequences of sinfulness are 0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:53.740 our poor health or their physical infirmities. And we see 0:36:53.739 --> 0:36:56.020 that in the Old Testament. God brings judgment on his 0:36:56.020 --> 0:36:58.750 people when they sin, and those judgments are often physical. 0:36:58.780 --> 0:37:02.680 And so I think the writer here is using those things, 0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:08.200 your infirmities, your wounds, as illustrations of their sinfulness. And 0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:11.469 so when he when they stand in for sin, the 0:37:11.469 --> 0:37:15.219 point is the suffering servant is dying to take away 0:37:15.219 --> 0:37:17.799 the consequences of your sin, which in this case is 0:37:17.830 --> 0:37:21.070 iniquity and physical ailment, things like that. 0:37:21.070 --> 0:37:25.419 So the the healing is a spiritual healing. 0:37:25.450 --> 0:37:28.870 Spiritual healing. Okay. That's right. And the spiritual healing when 0:37:28.870 --> 0:37:31.360 the spirit is healed, when people are doing what's right, 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:35.259 the consequences of their wicked behavior goes away. I don't 0:37:35.260 --> 0:37:38.110 think what we're saying here is Jesus died to cure 0:37:38.140 --> 0:37:42.790 my pick. Your infirmity. Okay. Um. Remember that when job 0:37:42.790 --> 0:37:46.330 fell ill, it was not because he had sinned. His 0:37:46.330 --> 0:37:48.489 friends tried to pin that on him, and job thought 0:37:48.489 --> 0:37:50.710 maybe that was the case. But that wasn't the case. 0:37:50.739 --> 0:37:54.970 God was doing something else. Job's sinfulness was not the 0:37:54.969 --> 0:37:58.330 cause of that illness. I think the point here is 0:37:58.330 --> 0:38:00.969 sin is in view. Spiritual healing is in view, and 0:38:00.969 --> 0:38:03.160 that has consequences in life. Okay. Yeah. 0:38:03.190 --> 0:38:05.230 All right. Thank you so much. If you want to 0:38:05.230 --> 0:38:09.530 give in your mailbag questions for next time for next week. 0:38:09.530 --> 0:38:13.490 You can do that at our website openline. radio.org. 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Yes, I have I 0:39:36.450 --> 0:39:40.830 have a comment earlier, uh, someone called and spoke about 0:39:40.830 --> 0:39:46.470 Christ's return and the readiness, uh, for myself, I, you know, 0:39:46.500 --> 0:39:50.850 of course, I'm preparing for Christ's return. But when I 0:39:50.850 --> 0:39:55.230 look at this, statistically, chances are I'll probably die before 0:39:55.230 --> 0:39:59.100 he returns. And I'm saying that we are required to 0:39:59.100 --> 0:40:02.070 have the same readiness because we'll be in his presence. 0:40:02.100 --> 0:40:05.650 I think that is a great attitude to have whether 0:40:05.650 --> 0:40:09.160 Christ comes back tomorrow and raptures us and then sets 0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:13.150 up his kingdom, or we die and go meet him first, 0:40:13.150 --> 0:40:16.960 the expectation is the same, right? We talk about the 0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:20.350 imminent return of Christ. He could come back at any time, 0:40:20.350 --> 0:40:23.890 and we often forget that living in our world today, 0:40:23.890 --> 0:40:27.220 we're a heartbeat away from meeting Jesus, right? We're a 0:40:27.219 --> 0:40:30.250 heartbeat away. One moment you're watching the game, and the 0:40:30.250 --> 0:40:33.009 next minute you're with Jesus. And so there is a 0:40:33.010 --> 0:40:38.140 very serious expectation that we should be ready in all contexts, 0:40:38.140 --> 0:40:39.219 to meet our maker. 0:40:39.250 --> 0:40:39.760 Yes. 0:40:40.150 --> 0:40:41.290 Yes. Yes. 0:40:41.650 --> 0:40:44.980 And I brought that comment up because, you know, I'm 0:40:44.980 --> 0:40:49.359 involved in life groups and often I need men's life group. 0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:51.880 And often I hear people talk about the readiness of 0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:55.750 Christ's return, but it seems like, you know. Oh, yeah, well, 0:40:55.750 --> 0:40:58.150 that's something I just have to be ready for that. But, 0:40:58.180 --> 0:41:00.640 you know, I could walk out and something happened to 0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:03.910 me tonight. So I always like to make sure when 0:41:03.910 --> 0:41:07.509 I hear those kinds of questions that I just, you know, 0:41:07.540 --> 0:41:09.580 kind of make it a little more imminent. 0:41:09.580 --> 0:41:12.340 And, and this is something that everyone needs to be 0:41:12.340 --> 0:41:16.149 aware of, not just not just folks like you and me, 0:41:16.180 --> 0:41:17.980 who may be at the end of our journey a 0:41:17.980 --> 0:41:20.830 little more than others. But if you're listening to this 0:41:20.830 --> 0:41:23.230 program today and you're young and you have in your 0:41:23.230 --> 0:41:26.710 mind a thought, you know what? It doesn't matter. I 0:41:26.710 --> 0:41:30.970 can do what I want. I've got years. Well, I think, Brian, 0:41:30.969 --> 0:41:33.009 we would agree. We would look at that young person 0:41:33.010 --> 0:41:34.570 and say, actually, you don't know that you're going to 0:41:34.570 --> 0:41:39.669 have years, right? You don't know it might be tomorrow 0:41:39.670 --> 0:41:42.580 and it might be 50 years from now. Christians are 0:41:42.580 --> 0:41:46.060 exhorted to be ready in all circumstances, and that's going 0:41:46.090 --> 0:41:47.920 to affect the way we live. Right. How does that 0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:49.900 play itself out? If you're going to be ready, it 0:41:49.900 --> 0:41:53.290 means it means spending time with the Lord and knowing him. 0:41:53.290 --> 0:41:56.620 It means time in prayer. It means reaching out with 0:41:56.620 --> 0:41:59.350 the gospel to those around us. It means being quick 0:41:59.350 --> 0:42:02.820 to be able to defend ourselves. A previous caller was 0:42:02.820 --> 0:42:05.489 asking about the armor of God. It means being quick 0:42:05.489 --> 0:42:10.170 to defend ourselves against the attacks of Satan so that 0:42:10.170 --> 0:42:13.560 we remain faithful. These are behaviors that look like someone 0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.050 who is ready. What does it look like to not 0:42:16.050 --> 0:42:19.920 be ready? Well, you wonder sometimes, wow, this person doesn't 0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:22.530 know the scriptures. They don't serve. They're not involved in 0:42:22.530 --> 0:42:25.980 Christian community. They seem to be making poor choices in 0:42:26.010 --> 0:42:29.969 their life. You say, hey, if when Christ comes back, 0:42:30.270 --> 0:42:32.580 it doesn't look like you're going to be ready for him. 0:42:32.610 --> 0:42:35.129 Let's think about what that means in living lives that 0:42:35.130 --> 0:42:37.080 honor him. Does that help, Brian? 0:42:37.500 --> 0:42:39.780 Yes, sir. Good. Thank you very much. 0:42:39.810 --> 0:42:41.910 You're welcome. Thank you for your question this morning. Let's 0:42:41.910 --> 0:42:48.600 go to Harry in Tampa, Florida, listening on keys. How 0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:50.940 are you doing? Good morning. How can I help you, sir? 0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:55.590 Yes, sir. Um, I don't speak in tongues, but I 0:42:55.620 --> 0:43:00.480 watch TV a lot. And I watch everybody from your 0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:06.180 channel and sometimes some of the ministers on television stressed 0:43:06.540 --> 0:43:12.509 speaking in tongues as a, uh, almost a necessity. Or 0:43:12.510 --> 0:43:15.810 if you don't, you don't quite measure up or something. 0:43:16.020 --> 0:43:18.750 I don't know how to how to read that. I 0:43:18.750 --> 0:43:20.640 don't know what to think about that. 0:43:21.270 --> 0:43:25.680 You know, when we look at the scriptures, we see 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:29.490 that early believers spoke in tongues when they received the 0:43:29.489 --> 0:43:32.280 Holy Spirit, right? We see that first and foremost in 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.640 the book of acts. We see that early on, believers 0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:41.279 are practicing this practice, and it seems very spontaneous. They're 0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:46.860 gathered together, they're thinking about the Lord. They're preaching the gospel. 0:43:46.890 --> 0:43:49.890 Christ told them, wait. Wait until the spirit comes. And 0:43:49.890 --> 0:43:52.170 they waited, and the spirit came on them, and they 0:43:52.170 --> 0:43:55.980 spoke in other tongues. Number one, the Lord initiated this. 0:43:55.980 --> 0:43:58.469 I think that's really important. The Lord initiated this. This 0:43:58.469 --> 0:44:02.350 is initiated from from God. And number two, they speak 0:44:02.350 --> 0:44:07.060 in languages that other people understand. And so I look 0:44:07.090 --> 0:44:09.130 at this practice in the New Testament and I say 0:44:09.130 --> 0:44:12.670 it has a function. It has a real intelligible function. 0:44:12.670 --> 0:44:15.730 What is that function? Get the gospel out to more 0:44:15.730 --> 0:44:18.009 people so that they can hear it. And we see 0:44:18.010 --> 0:44:21.580 that in the book of acts, chapter two, where they speak. 0:44:21.610 --> 0:44:25.120 And what do people say? They say, wow, like, I 0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:28.690 can hear this in my own language. At this sound, 0:44:28.690 --> 0:44:31.779 the multitude came together. They were bewildered. Acts chapter two, 0:44:31.810 --> 0:44:34.000 verse six. Each one was hearing them speak in his 0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:37.900 own language, and they were amazed. Astonished are not these 0:44:37.900 --> 0:44:40.780 Galileans who are speaking? How is it that we hear 0:44:40.780 --> 0:44:44.050 each of us in his own native language? Parthians, Medes, Elamites, 0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:50.950 residents of Mesopotamia, Judea, Cappadocia, Pontus, Asia, Phrygia, Pamphylia? Wow, 0:44:50.950 --> 0:44:53.860 this is amazing. That's because God is doing something special 0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:57.730 and God continues to do something special with tongues in 0:44:57.730 --> 0:45:01.270 the book of acts, it seems like this practice falls 0:45:01.270 --> 0:45:04.150 out of necessity as we head into the rest of 0:45:04.150 --> 0:45:07.570 the New Testament era and into the early centuries of Christianity. 0:45:07.570 --> 0:45:10.660 And so I would say to, you know, tongues is 0:45:10.660 --> 0:45:14.230 not required. It is not required for people to speak 0:45:14.230 --> 0:45:17.770 in tongues. You can be a faithful, God honoring Christians, 0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:20.980 Christian and never speak in tongues. It is not ever 0:45:20.980 --> 0:45:23.770 stated in the Scripture that that is required. It's true. 0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:27.070 We see the early Christians doing that. God initiated that. 0:45:27.100 --> 0:45:31.000 It is not them necessarily seeking it for a purpose 0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:33.460 that is not disclosed. Does that help Harry? 0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:37.630 It does. Sure. And that's a great answer. I really 0:45:37.630 --> 0:45:41.590 appreciate that. The very wise answer, and I believe that 0:45:41.710 --> 0:45:46.570 that I've had four heart surgeries and several times my 0:45:46.570 --> 0:45:51.220 heart has stopped. Uh, what's your position on divine healing? 0:45:51.250 --> 0:45:54.250 I think the Lord can heal. He can do whatever 0:45:54.250 --> 0:45:56.570 he wants, and he can heal as he does. and 0:45:56.570 --> 0:46:00.049 we pray for healing. We beg him to heal and 0:46:00.050 --> 0:46:03.049 we're love. We hope that he will heal us. And 0:46:03.050 --> 0:46:05.480 we ask. And as long as we ask, we do 0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:10.100 that in faith that he will help us. Well, that's 0:46:10.100 --> 0:46:14.120 it for today. 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