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S1: Hey, it's Diana super Di and so glad you've tuned

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S1: in to the Carl and Crew show cast. You know,

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S2: Coming to you live from the call of Hope studio.

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S2: This is Carl and crew.

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S3: I got it on my mind. I got heaven on

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S3: doo doo doo doo. TobyMac. Beating the table.

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S1: Favorite way to start the show?

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S4: Do you guys think that if we, for the next

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S5: I think so.

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S3: I'm telling you. All right. Come on, you guys. You

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S3: can't tell me you aren't ones who put favorite songs

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S5: Oh.

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S4: Absolutely.

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S5: Oh, I have several looped. Yeah, when I'm walking, for sure.

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S5: Just normally we do that when we're in our car

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S5: and not on radio. You know, national radio program.

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S4: You know what? That's a good point.

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S3: It's actually pretty funny. It's actually pretty funny.

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S5: It's your show.

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S3: No no no no no no. It's your show. Don't

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S3: I would say there have been times when I've, I've

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S4: That's a that's a lot of times. Are you saying

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S4: That's a lot of times I don't think I can

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S4: Thirty's a lot. That's I mean, okay.

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S3: I set the bar too high here. I thought people

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S4: Three let's say three minutes. Uh, 30 times three is 90.

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S3: And that's all I'm saying about that. Thanks, Ali for the. Wow.

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S3: It's just like, wow, okay. Glad I'm not a sinner. Like, you.

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S5: And I both knew it. Yeah, that was a that

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S5: Oh, he would drive me nuts. Yeah. I mean, at

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S5: I will definitely not do that.

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S2: Take your next step with Jesus today. You're listening to

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S3: It's Carl and crew helping you take your next step

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S3: Yeah. It's it's in the air by the way. Update

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S3: Yeah, yeah Alys good for you. Know, every once in

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S6: will start to show for it. When the storms come,

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S6: your house will stand and the storm will break. I'm

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S6: telling you, many Christians are living like practical atheists. But

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S6: when you start to take a look and even an

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S6: audit of your thoughts, of your belief system, even where

458
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S6: your emotions take you, it shows you what you believe

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S6: about God.

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S5: I mean, it's so true, right? I mean, it's the

461
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S5: storm that tests the strength of the house, right? I mean,

462
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S5: because in calm weather, most of the houses look pretty similar.

463
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S6: Exactly.

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S3: How do we get Suzy? Because I'm back to what

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S3: you said at the start of this interview, and we're

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S3: going to give you a link because some of you

467
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S3: are like, I might have missed that first part without

468
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S3: rehearsing everything that God had to do to get your

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S3: mind aligned with the truth. How does that work? Right now,

470
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S3: someone feels like I've had stinking thinking. I never used that.

471
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S3: I've heard it before. I've had stinking thinking for years.

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S3: And some people are the Holy Spirit's quickening them right

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S3: now to realize, my goodness, I've not been a place

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S3: of healing. My heart's not prepared for those truths. What

475
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S3: do we do? Suzy?

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S6: I truly invite you and encourage you to back up

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S6: from your emotions and ask yourself, what am I believing

478
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S6: about God right now? I mean, because really, it's your

479
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S6: beliefs that really impact how you walk. And so I

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S6: would really take audit of those things and start to

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S6: immerse yourself in the Word of God and truly stand

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S6: on that truth until it feels true. Where you make

483
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S6: declarations over your life and this is not name it,

484
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S6: claim it. I really mean it to I mean, for me,

485
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S6: you know, again, I love the brain science, but they

486
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S6: said science has said the only way to interrupt rogue

487
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S6: thoughts that take you into the ditch is when you're speaking.

488
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S6: Now you apply that scripturally. Is the spoken word how

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S6: powerful it is to say, you know what? No, my God,

490
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S6: it's for me who can stand against me. You find

491
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S6: a promise for your problem in Scripture, marinate in it,

492
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S6: stand on it, build on it, and it will start

493
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S6: to change your emotions, your perspective. And that literally is

494
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S6: how you navigate the storms of life. But it takes

495
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S6: application a daily application. I think we've reduced the gospel

496
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S6: as you said, to a formula. You check the box,

497
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S6: then you go on and do life like a practical atheist.

498
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S6: And I'm just saying, when you get in and you

499
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S6: engage with God's Word and you stand on it, everything changes.

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S3: We got numbers of people that have surrendered their life

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S3: to Christ this morning. We might have time to acknowledge you,

502
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S3: but here's what. Here's what I say. You said something,

503
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S3: And I am burning right now with this. Listen to me,

504
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S3: boom crew. The spoken word of God is referred to

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S3: 70 times in the New Testament. The Greek word is rhema.

506
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S3: We don't talk Greek words all the time here, but

507
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S3: this matters because this is not logos as in the word.

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S3: And it's not to be trapped in our mind like

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S3: some new form of eastern thought. No, it comes off

510
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S3: of our lips. Jesus did it, Susie. You know it well,

511
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S3: coming out of the temptation he said, man shall not

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S3: live by bread alone, but by every rhema word spoken

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S3: from the mouth of God. That word is the spoken word.

514
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S3: Jesus did it by quoting Deuteronomy back to Satan, referred

515
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S3: to again in Ephesians six. Take up the sword of

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S3: the spirit. We have neglected getting off our lips the

517
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S3: truth that Jesus leveraged to get victory over Satan himself.

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S3: What's your comment, Susie?

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S6: Well, I might have mentioned this on a previous interview,

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S6: but I got a friend in a fight of her

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S6: life and she formed a little battle box, just a

522
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S6: little plastic box with recipe cards. Every time a rhema

523
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S6: word jumps off the page, she writes it on the

524
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S6: recipe card. And this is now her battle box. Every

525
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S6: single day she pulls those cards out of the box.

526
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S6: This is separate from her morning prayer time. Reading time.

527
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S6: She marches around her house so her ears hear her

528
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S6: mouth say, I will not die, but live and declare

529
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S6: the works of the Lord. He sent forth his word

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S6: to heal me and rescued me from the grave. You

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S6: know the words in Scripture aren't any words like a

532
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S6: normal book of words. They are living, breathing, powerful, active.

533
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S6: And they move things. They change the atmosphere. We have

534
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S6: got to engage with His Word, with our mouths, because

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S6: that's when our hearts and our minds start to align

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S6: as well.

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S5: Susie Larson, our guest right now we want to connect

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S5: you to Susie has something daily blessings, among other things,

539
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S5: on our web, on her website. But if you want

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S5: to start practicing this, practicing this as we've described, this

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S5: is going to help you. So just text mine to

542
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S5: 800 555 7898. Text mine to 800 555 7898.

543
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S3: Oh, Suzy, thank you for ducking in here, sister. This

544
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S3: is powerhouse and we're going to play this again. Hang on.

545
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S3: We'll tell you how to get it. If you haven't

546
00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:55,250
S3: gotten subscribed to our show cast. God's spirit had a

547
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S3: little diversion for us today and we're glad we took it.

548
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S3: But right now, grab this link for Suzy. Text the

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S3: word mind to mind. M I n d to 800

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S3: 555 7898 800 555 7898. Well, here we are gathered together.

551
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S3: Christmas is near, but it is Wednesday and it is

552
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S3: the bottom of the hour. It is so we know

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S3: what that means.

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S2: Making herself laugh no matter who joins her. It's time for.

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S2: Allie thinks it's funny.

556
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S5: Anyone purchased any chicken lately? Not talking about the grocery

557
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S5: store variety. Talking about the actual. No, the actual chicken.

558
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S5: How much?

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S1: No. No.

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S4: Not not usually on my list.

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S1: Yeah.

562
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S5: Live chickens. Anyone know how much a chicken costs?

563
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S4: Not at all, no.

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S1: Okay.

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S3: Burundi a buck.

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S5: Okay, well, what do you call a $2 chicken?

567
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S3: Boy, I don't know.

568
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S1: Buck. Buck.

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S3: Oh, I stepped right into that.

570
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S1: Didn't even know it.

571
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S3: That is hilarious.

572
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S5: It's like Carl. Wow. Did you see.

573
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S3: That? Oh, I didn't see it coming. That's awesome. That's hilarious.

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S1: You know, that was funny. Yeah.

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S5: Scared you with that one.

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S1: Great.

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S5: Next up, I went to the doctor with a suspicious

578
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S5: looking mole. Don't want to ignore those. Gotta get them

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S5: checked out.

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S4: Absolutely.

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S5: Doctor. Surprised me, though. He said, oh, they all look

582
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S5: that way. You should have left them in the garden.

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S3: That's so bad. You got the right facial expression.

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S1: Ali, picture the suspicious looking mole walking around. Okay.

585
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S5: Text jokes to 800 555 7898. Jokes to 800 555 7898.

586
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S3: I'm so blown away that I mentioned Burundi in there.

587
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S3: A bucket of chicken. And then you go, buck, buck.

588
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S5: It's like, thank you Carl.

589
00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:05,820
S7: Buck, buck.

590
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S4: That's crazy.

591
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S5: That's you can't plan these things.

592
00:27:08,180 --> 00:27:13,260
S4: No. They have to happen naturally. Stuff this amazing happened naturally.

593
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S3: Oh, you. But you can get them text jokes to 805, 55, 78,

594
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S3: 98 right here on Carl and crew text jokes to

595
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S3: 800 555 7898.

596
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:30,890
S2: Your shot of hope to help you through the day.

597
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S2: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

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S3: Well, just imagine with us for a moment what it

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S3: would have been like to be out in the fields

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S3: watching over flocks. And an angel of the Lord appears,

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S3: and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and

602
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S3: they were filled with great fear. God didn't intend to

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S3: freak him out, but you know, it's this encounter with

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S3: the transcendent, the holy, that it was unavoidable. And then

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S3: we find these words. And the angel said to them,

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S3: fear not, for behold, I bring you good news of

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S3: great joy that will be for all the people. We're

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S3: those people, Ali. How great is.

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S5: That? It is. And you know, when you think about

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S5: that fear, was the response. I mean, there was nothing

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S5: to suggest that there was anything threatening happening, that somehow

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S5: they feared for their safety. But the emotion of fear

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S5: was their first response. And our guest joining us right now,

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S5: Anne Graham Lotz. As we see throughout Scripture, that was

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S5: often the response when someone encountered an angel or a

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S5: voice of the Lord unexpectedly, they were afraid. Why is that?

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S8: You know, I wonder if it's because when you're confronted

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S8: with the glory and the holiness of a righteous God,

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S8: suddenly you're aware of who you are. And the shepherds

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S8: were the outcasts of society. They had no standing in society.

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S8: They were could never go to the temple. They could never,

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S8: you know, make atonement for their sin because they they

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S8: kept those sheep and the sheep that they were keeping.

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S8: It's believed that those were the Passover lambs. And so

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S8: they were keeping these lambs for sacrifice, and they were

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S8: not allowed to come to the temple themselves. So, so

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S8: for the glory of the Lord and for the angels

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S8: to make that announcement to the shepherds of all people,

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S8: the lowest of the low in that society would have

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S8: been terrifying in the sense that they were confronted with

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S8: the holiness and the glory of God. And then for

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S8: them to hear that it's good news and applying it

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S8: to us. Ali, when we're confronted with the holiness and

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S8: the righteousness of God and His glory, his majesty, all

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S8: that he is, and we see ourselves as in a sense,

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S8: the spiritual outcasts that we are our our sin and

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S8: the fact that we fall short of that glory, we

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S8: have fallen short of the whatever, the standard that he

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S8: had for us when when he brought us into existence.

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S8: And we feel ashamed and we feel afraid, we know

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S8: that we're under condemnation. But the good news is that

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S8: he's sending a Savior. And I was just meditating on

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S8: that this morning because he came into this earth, the

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S8: creator who entered into creation, becoming a part of it.

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S8: Can you imagine the humiliation on the part of Jesus?

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S8: And and yet he did that because he knew that

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S8: he would grow up. He would go to the cross.

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S8: He would be God's sacrifice for our sin and the

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S8: shepherds and you and me and all those who acknowledged

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S8: their sin and come to the cross and ask for

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S8: forgiveness can be forgiven and brought into the family of God.

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S8: So it's the fear is replaced with joy, because the

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S8: fear of standing before a holy God and being condemned

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S8: is replaced with joy. When we discover there is a

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S8: Savior who can take away our sin, make us right

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S8: with God, that we don't ever have to be afraid again.

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S3: Amen. Anne Graham Lotz, our guest right now, you know,

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S3: and I'll tell you what I get a kick out

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S3: of with this passage is that God didn't replace fear

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S3: with peace, which he often does. There's plenty of biblical

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S3: evidence of that, but he replaced it with joy. Joy?

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S3: What does that say to you, Anne?

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S8: Well, I think the joy of knowing that your sins

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S8: are forgiven, the joy of knowing that you were brought

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S8: into existence because God has an eternal purpose for you.

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S8: The joy of knowing that you can be in God's family.

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S8: The joy of knowing that not only do you have

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S8: purpose and meaning in this life is a reason to

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S8: get up every morning because you have an eternal purpose.

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S8: But the joy of knowing there is hope not not

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S8: a hope so, but a confidence that when your life

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S8: is required and you step into eternity, you're going to

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S8: be going home. You're going to a place that Jesus

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S8: has prepared for you. So the transition is from fear

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S8: of facing a holy God in our sin to joy,

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S8: knowing that our sin is forgiven, that we face not

677
00:31:42,690 --> 00:31:45,250
S8: just a holy God, but but a righteous God who

678
00:31:45,250 --> 00:31:47,810
S8: loves us so much that he sent his own son

679
00:31:47,810 --> 00:31:50,210
S8: to die on the cross to take away our sin.

680
00:31:50,410 --> 00:31:54,050
S8: And standing before God now who is not just a

681
00:31:54,050 --> 00:31:56,410
S8: holy God, he is our father, hears our ABBA. That

682
00:31:56,410 --> 00:31:59,890
S8: means it's our daddy, and he brings us into that personal,

683
00:31:59,890 --> 00:32:04,650
S8: permanent love relationship that does become the joy of our hearts.

684
00:32:04,650 --> 00:32:08,050
S8: But I will say that when the angels spoke next,

685
00:32:08,090 --> 00:32:10,210
S8: they spoke to the whole world. When they said, Glory

686
00:32:10,210 --> 00:32:12,650
S8: to God on the highest and on earth peace. So

687
00:32:12,650 --> 00:32:15,010
S8: he does bring joy, but he also brings peace. And

688
00:32:15,010 --> 00:32:18,770
S8: I think the peace comes. It settles in when when

689
00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:21,450
S8: we know we're right with God and and we have

690
00:32:21,450 --> 00:32:24,880
S8: nothing to worry about concerning the present or the future.

691
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,400
S5: Anne Graham Lotz, our guest right now named one of

692
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,320
S5: the five most influential evangelists of her generation by the

693
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,640
S5: New York Times. She is the president of Angel or

694
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,520
S5: Anne Graham Lotz Ministries. And what aspects of fear have

695
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,040
S5: threatened to steal joy in your life?

696
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,920
S8: I think the fear of not fulfilling God's purpose is one.

697
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,240
S8: I think the fear I've gone through breast cancer and

698
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,080
S8: then the unexpected death of my husband and I wasn't

699
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,040
S8: really afraid of breast cancer. I was afraid of the treatments.

700
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,920
S8: You know, they're very rough. But the Lord met me

701
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,560
S8: every time I went. It was amazing. And that's something

702
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,440
S8: else I will tell you that Psalm 23, verse four

703
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,280
S8: says that when you pass through the valley of the

704
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,640
S8: shadow of death, that death for a child of God

705
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,880
S8: is just a shadow. But it says he will be

706
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,800
S8: with you. So in these hard times, when going through

707
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,600
S8: the chemo and the radiation, the surgery, all that, he

708
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,280
S8: was with me in beautiful ways when my husband went

709
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,910
S8: to heaven an unexpectedly. The fear was I never paid

710
00:33:24,910 --> 00:33:27,710
S8: bills myself. I'd never done all the business part of

711
00:33:27,710 --> 00:33:30,110
S8: the house myself. You know, my husband took care of

712
00:33:30,110 --> 00:33:34,030
S8: me and and the fear of stepping out into that

713
00:33:34,030 --> 00:33:37,990
S8: unknown and being single for the first time in 49

714
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:42,230
S8: years and and also managing my family and taking care

715
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:43,990
S8: of my family as the head of the family, in

716
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:47,469
S8: a sense. And but God has also led me. He

717
00:33:47,470 --> 00:33:49,350
S8: has taken care of me. He has been my husband.

718
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:51,310
S8: Even little things like putting on a necklace and not

719
00:33:51,310 --> 00:33:54,910
S8: being able to hook that little tiny little. And I'll

720
00:33:54,910 --> 00:33:57,750
S8: pray and the Lord helps me with that. Just little things,

721
00:33:57,750 --> 00:34:01,950
S8: great big things. So the joy is in knowing that

722
00:34:01,950 --> 00:34:05,670
S8: I belong to him. He belongs to me as much

723
00:34:05,670 --> 00:34:08,470
S8: as I can. I'm right with him. I've confessed my sin.

724
00:34:08,510 --> 00:34:11,230
S8: I've been to the cross. And not just I come

725
00:34:11,230 --> 00:34:13,910
S8: once for forgiveness, but I come continually back to the

726
00:34:13,910 --> 00:34:16,710
S8: cross to confess my sin that I would be cleansed

727
00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:20,470
S8: and have that close personal love relationship with him which

728
00:34:20,510 --> 00:34:23,340
S8: which is the joy of my heart. So God has

729
00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:25,979
S8: taken away the fear. And it doesn't mean that if

730
00:34:26,180 --> 00:34:28,060
S8: I'm in a car accident, or if something happens to

731
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:29,940
S8: one of my children, that I won't feel that flash

732
00:34:29,940 --> 00:34:33,460
S8: of fear. So God knows. Isaiah says that he knows

733
00:34:33,460 --> 00:34:36,620
S8: our frame. He remembers that we're just smoking flax and

734
00:34:36,620 --> 00:34:39,140
S8: a bruised reed, but he's tender with us, and he'll

735
00:34:39,140 --> 00:34:41,219
S8: see us through those hard times. And I'll tell you,

736
00:34:41,260 --> 00:34:44,060
S8: Carl and Allie, that the hard times in my life,

737
00:34:44,060 --> 00:34:46,300
S8: I look back on them, and it's that those hardest

738
00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:49,219
S8: times that I felt the closest to the Lord. I

739
00:34:49,260 --> 00:34:52,899
S8: felt his love, his presence, the deepest joy. That joy

740
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:55,660
S8: is not just an emotion. It's a deep, like a

741
00:34:55,660 --> 00:34:57,980
S8: river that runs deep. And you just know things are

742
00:34:57,980 --> 00:35:00,819
S8: going to be okay. God takes responsibility for me, and

743
00:35:00,820 --> 00:35:03,780
S8: he takes responsibility for those who put their trust in Jesus.

744
00:35:04,219 --> 00:35:05,420
S8: He will see us through.

745
00:35:05,460 --> 00:35:09,419
S3: Amen. That's so true. Okay. And I am blown away

746
00:35:09,420 --> 00:35:11,779
S3: by the contrast in this passage. And, you know, I

747
00:35:11,780 --> 00:35:14,700
S3: think there's been some things rightly said about the church

748
00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:17,460
S3: in North America, the Western church, and that is that

749
00:35:17,460 --> 00:35:20,920
S3: we've lost somewhat. We have the fear of the Lord.

750
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,480
S3: But contrasted with that the joy of the Lord. And

751
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,160
S3: there's some people that have a nominal fear of life.

752
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,560
S3: Explain from your vantage point why a holy fear of

753
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,319
S3: an awesome God, combined with the joy that's found in

754
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,799
S3: relationship through His Son Jesus Christ, is the answer. Our

755
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,920
S3: heart goes out and we have tens of thousands of

756
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,080
S3: people listening to you right now. Some are in the

757
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,000
S3: grip of fear. What can God do about that?

758
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,160
S8: I think the first thing we need to do is

759
00:35:55,160 --> 00:36:00,000
S8: turn to him and he is awesome. He's majestic, he's glorious.

760
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,479
S8: But he also is the one who left heaven's throne

761
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,839
S8: and came down to live among us. And John said

762
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,440
S8: in chapter one that we beheld his glory and the

763
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,839
S8: glory of the Son of God. So. So if you

764
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,280
S8: want to know what God is like, look at Jesus.

765
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,480
S8: If you want to know what God thinks, look at Jesus.

766
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,629
S8: If you want to know how God sounds, what he says,

767
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:24,150
S8: what he does, how he feels. Look at Jesus. Jesus

768
00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:26,790
S8: is God in the flesh. We call him the Son

769
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:29,510
S8: of God, but that doesn't mean God JR. It means

770
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:34,069
S8: God in human flesh. So there's nothing to fear in

771
00:36:34,070 --> 00:36:38,230
S8: the sense he's approachable, he's accessible. He gave his life

772
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:40,430
S8: on the cross to take away your sin, to bring

773
00:36:40,430 --> 00:36:43,830
S8: you into that personal relationship. And I will say, Karl,

774
00:36:43,830 --> 00:36:46,790
S8: that I agree that the church in North America has

775
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:49,390
S8: seemed to lose its fear of God. We've become so

776
00:36:49,390 --> 00:36:52,950
S8: familiar with him that we treat him as less than

777
00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:56,509
S8: he is, and he is holy. He is majestic. He

778
00:36:56,510 --> 00:36:58,990
S8: is glorious. He is in charge. He is the King

779
00:36:58,989 --> 00:37:01,469
S8: one day who's coming back. But he also is the

780
00:37:01,510 --> 00:37:03,989
S8: Savior who loves us so much that he gave his

781
00:37:03,989 --> 00:37:07,390
S8: life for us and wants to come into our hearts

782
00:37:07,550 --> 00:37:10,310
S8: and manage our lives so that our lives have purpose

783
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:12,989
S8: and meaning. And when we stand before God, we have

784
00:37:12,989 --> 00:37:15,310
S8: something to show for the life we've lived down here.

785
00:37:15,710 --> 00:37:19,060
S5: Anne Graham Lotz, beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing

786
00:37:19,060 --> 00:37:21,380
S5: some of your morning with us. We've got a keyword

787
00:37:21,380 --> 00:37:25,739
S5: for you and she has some wonderful resources devotionals, uh,

788
00:37:25,739 --> 00:37:30,299
S5: messages on her website. So just text Graham to 800

789
00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:35,900
S5: 555 7898 Graham g r a h a Graham to

790
00:37:35,940 --> 00:37:39,100
S5: 800 555 7898.

791
00:37:39,140 --> 00:37:40,899
S3: I'm going to throw it in for free here while

792
00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:44,219
S3: people are scrambling to get that resource. And boy, it

793
00:37:44,219 --> 00:37:46,420
S3: feels like the Lord's return is near. Do you have

794
00:37:46,420 --> 00:37:47,580
S3: an opinion on that one?

795
00:37:49,260 --> 00:37:52,420
S8: I absolutely do. I think it's imminent. And so I

796
00:37:52,420 --> 00:37:55,820
S8: want to live my life, Carl, every moment of my life,

797
00:37:55,820 --> 00:37:58,500
S8: as though in five minutes I'm going to see Jesus.

798
00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:00,739
S8: So five minutes before I see him, I don't want

799
00:38:00,739 --> 00:38:02,299
S8: to have any regrets in the way I've been living

800
00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:06,420
S8: my life. And. And I believe everything is the things

801
00:38:06,420 --> 00:38:10,380
S8: the prophecy right now that's being fulfilled or we see

802
00:38:10,420 --> 00:38:14,220
S8: is just amazing. It's stunning. So keep your eye on Israel.

803
00:38:14,219 --> 00:38:17,009
S8: Israel is the epicenter and the things that are going

804
00:38:17,010 --> 00:38:20,090
S8: on there impact the whole world. And the world may

805
00:38:20,090 --> 00:38:23,689
S8: not recognize that. But God's eyes on Israel and and

806
00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:26,250
S8: she is the one who will be that lightning rod

807
00:38:26,290 --> 00:38:29,290
S8: of prophecy. And everything is in place now for the

808
00:38:29,290 --> 00:38:31,489
S8: Lord to come back. You know, I believe it could

809
00:38:31,489 --> 00:38:33,970
S8: be today. I believe it could be tomorrow this year.

810
00:38:34,250 --> 00:38:36,129
S8: So I just want to live my life on the

811
00:38:36,130 --> 00:38:37,610
S8: tip toe of expectancy.

812
00:38:37,770 --> 00:38:40,489
S3: Love it. You're irrigated with the Word of God, and

813
00:38:40,489 --> 00:38:43,810
S3: that's always encouraging for us to hear on our morning show.

814
00:38:43,810 --> 00:38:44,290
S3: Thank you.

815
00:38:44,410 --> 00:38:47,170
S8: That's the foundation on which we stand, Carl. You know,

816
00:38:47,489 --> 00:38:51,210
S8: the world is just turning inside out and backwards. The confusion,

817
00:38:51,250 --> 00:38:54,569
S8: the chaos, the conflict. And it's God's word that we

818
00:38:54,570 --> 00:38:57,129
S8: stand on that keeps us strong. So we know where

819
00:38:57,130 --> 00:38:58,569
S8: we've been. We know where we are, and we know

820
00:38:58,570 --> 00:39:00,290
S8: where we're going because of God's Word.

821
00:39:00,570 --> 00:39:04,330
S3: And you are a fireball for our Savior. I'll tell you,

822
00:39:04,370 --> 00:39:09,290
S3: you're inspiring, sister. Again. Text the word Graham. Yep. One word. Graham.

823
00:39:09,290 --> 00:39:13,250
S3: Get these resources. Boy, what a gift in this Christmas season.

824
00:39:13,250 --> 00:39:18,120
S3: Graham to 805 555. 78. 98.

825
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,880
S2: Standing on the Rock. Each and every day you're listening

826
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,160
S2: to Carl and crew.

827
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,919
S3: I love a little bit of brass in Christmas season.

828
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,080
S1: That's a little jazzy.

829
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:28,879
S3: Yeah.

830
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,040
S1: Jazz hands. Jazz hands. Do you have a favorite.

831
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:32,720
S5: Christmas song.

832
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:33,239
S1: Carl?

833
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,280
S3: Oh my goodness. Ali. Beyond.

834
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,719
S5: I mean, like, the traditional Christmas favorite. I know some

835
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,359
S5: of the new ones you love, but do you have

836
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,440
S5: a traditional favorite?

837
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,200
S9: I like them all.

838
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,600
S3: Ali, I am so not one stands out to me.

839
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,680
S5: You know, I saw Silent Night. I saw someone posted

840
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,440
S5: this question on Facebook that I thought was kind of interesting.

841
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,160
S5: This person is not a believer. But they said they

842
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,120
S5: were just curious and they were not trying to stir

843
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,960
S5: anything up. But they said Christmas music gets played everywhere

844
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,840
S5: this time of year. They said for people who are Christians,

845
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,640
S5: are there specific songs that you actually play on your

846
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,880
S5: own and just listen to? I thought it was a

847
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,200
S5: really interesting question.

848
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,950
S3: It was from someone who's not a follower.

849
00:40:14,989 --> 00:40:16,469
S5: Yeah. And so they were curious, like, what are the

850
00:40:16,469 --> 00:40:19,910
S5: songs that for Christians, we actually listen to like in

851
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:22,670
S5: our homes, like more than, just like the Christmas music

852
00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:25,029
S5: that plays around. And so it got me thinking, and

853
00:40:25,030 --> 00:40:27,029
S5: I was thinking of the ones that have a little

854
00:40:27,070 --> 00:40:29,509
S5: bit more of a rich theological.

855
00:40:30,430 --> 00:40:30,950
S1: Yeah.

856
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:33,390
S5: Telling the story. Yeah.

857
00:40:33,950 --> 00:40:40,270
S3: That's really good. So we have done this maybe once before. Um,

858
00:40:40,310 --> 00:40:42,750
S3: we're going to do requests here, and this is the

859
00:40:42,750 --> 00:40:44,910
S3: way it's going to work. We're only going to have

860
00:40:44,910 --> 00:40:46,790
S3: time for a couple of songs because, I mean, we

861
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:50,150
S3: don't spin records here. Super nice. She's the spinner man.

862
00:40:50,190 --> 00:40:52,589
S3: She's back here rocking it. We got the vinyls. No,

863
00:40:52,590 --> 00:40:54,710
S3: we don't have the vinyls. I wonder if there's any

864
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:55,950
S3: vinyls around here anymore.

865
00:40:55,989 --> 00:40:58,830
S1: Oh. I'm sure. Yeah. Somewhere there. We've got them.

866
00:40:58,870 --> 00:41:01,310
S3: Are they in the Museum of Moody? Pretty much. D.L.

867
00:41:01,350 --> 00:41:02,230
S3: Moody's museum.

868
00:41:02,270 --> 00:41:03,630
S1: Pretty much in my basement.

869
00:41:04,750 --> 00:41:07,150
S3: So here's. Here's. Do you have vinyls?

870
00:41:07,350 --> 00:41:09,710
S1: Oh, I have so many vinyls.

871
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:13,180
S4: Yes. I don't think there's a way Diana couldn't have Die.

872
00:41:13,420 --> 00:41:13,859
S10: That's awesome.

873
00:41:14,219 --> 00:41:15,060
S1: Vinyls. Yeah.

874
00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:21,300
S3: Oh my goodness. Okay, so here's the gig. Um. Not

875
00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:27,540
S3: just what your favorite Christmas song, but why? And if

876
00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:29,420
S3: you can build a good case, we might spin it

877
00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:32,060
S3: for you here. Okay. Does that sound fair, Ali?

878
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:33,140
S1: I like it, yeah.

879
00:41:33,180 --> 00:41:36,779
S3: Let's do it. So 805, five, five, 78, 98. You

880
00:41:36,780 --> 00:41:37,700
S3: gotta come on air.

881
00:41:37,739 --> 00:41:38,140
S1: Yeah.

882
00:41:38,180 --> 00:41:40,460
S5: It's got to be more than just. I'm with you.

883
00:41:40,460 --> 00:41:42,180
S5: More than just. Oh, I really like this one. Like,

884
00:41:42,180 --> 00:41:46,420
S5: what is it about this particular song that ministers to you? Yeah,

885
00:41:46,460 --> 00:41:49,700
S5: more than just like, it's a nice Christmas tune.

886
00:41:50,020 --> 00:41:52,379
S3: Yeah. And don't freak out. Go. Oh, great. I'm going

887
00:41:52,420 --> 00:41:55,340
S3: to get gonged like, sorry. Not a good enough answer.

888
00:41:55,340 --> 00:41:57,420
S3: We'll vet you before we bring you on air. So

889
00:41:57,420 --> 00:41:59,939
S3: if you come on air, it's because we don't do

890
00:41:59,940 --> 00:42:03,460
S3: that to people around here. No. Oh that's horrible.

891
00:42:03,460 --> 00:42:06,140
S4: No, we're not trying to do gotcha. To listeners that

892
00:42:06,140 --> 00:42:06,820
S4: would be horrible.

893
00:42:07,020 --> 00:42:10,660
S3: Like, uh, good song. You didn't have a good enough reason. See,

894
00:42:10,660 --> 00:42:16,690
S3: you know. So give us a call (800) 555-7898. Uh, favorite

895
00:42:16,690 --> 00:42:20,490
S3: Christmas song and why? Uh, we're going to have, uh,

896
00:42:20,489 --> 00:42:25,930
S3: our expert team here made up of Savannah and Young

897
00:42:25,969 --> 00:42:28,170
S3: Thunder and Super D, and they're going to they're going

898
00:42:28,210 --> 00:42:31,250
S3: to make sure that we spin something here that's well reasoned.

899
00:42:31,290 --> 00:42:36,209
S3: 800 555 7898. Give us a call. And, uh, you

900
00:42:36,210 --> 00:42:38,250
S3: too can be part of the second time ever in

901
00:42:38,250 --> 00:42:41,610
S3: ten years that we've taken a request, I think, and

902
00:42:41,610 --> 00:42:44,690
S3: certainly like this. This is kind of fun. Okay, we

903
00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:46,689
S3: got a spin one right now. We can't do this

904
00:42:46,690 --> 00:42:47,450
S3: song right now, okay?

905
00:42:47,450 --> 00:42:49,330
S4: I didn't want to steal any. I didn't want to

906
00:42:49,330 --> 00:42:52,770
S4: steal any Christmas songs. Let me, let me grab one

907
00:42:52,770 --> 00:42:54,770
S4: that that won't be picked, but, like, it's a really

908
00:42:54,770 --> 00:42:56,850
S4: good song, but it's new, so it's not gonna. You

909
00:42:56,850 --> 00:42:57,250
S4: know what I mean?

910
00:42:57,290 --> 00:42:59,850
S3: Well, let's let's hold on here because we got the phone.

911
00:42:59,850 --> 00:43:03,169
S3: Lines are absolutely jammed. Let's get someone vetted who's got

912
00:43:03,170 --> 00:43:05,250
S3: a good story. And while we're doing that, I'm going

913
00:43:05,290 --> 00:43:07,089
S3: to talk to Allie here. So you guys figure that

914
00:43:07,090 --> 00:43:08,290
S3: one out. Yeah. The young thunder.

915
00:43:08,330 --> 00:43:08,810
S1: Okay.

916
00:43:08,890 --> 00:43:12,560
S5: One of the one of my favorite ones. Um. O

917
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,280
S5: come all ye faithful. And this one, I think, often

918
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,000
S5: gets sung in worship services around, uh, around Christmas time.

919
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,360
S5: Because there's the part where everyone sings in unison, O come,

920
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,520
S5: let us.

921
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,160
S1: Adore.

922
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:30,440
S5: Him. And there's yes, and there's something just so powerful

923
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,480
S5: about those lyrics. O come let us adore him. Like

924
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,480
S5: together we're coming to adore him. And so that one

925
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,120
S5: in particular really gets me. I mean that, that one,

926
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,320
S5: that one gets me this time of year, for sure.

927
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,520
S3: Some of you might be with my bride. She's a

928
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,319
S3: faithful listener here. And she just texted me. Mary, did

929
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,000
S3: you know? I know that one gets my wife big time.

930
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:51,920
S1: Really? Okay.

931
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,680
S3: Yeah. She just loves that song. And she loves the

932
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:01,360
S3: the woman of the mom of Jesus, Mary, and thinks

933
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,400
S3: that she's just an epic woman of God. She is.

934
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,800
S3: My goodness. So, yeah. Pretty cool. Um, have we got

935
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,190
S3: someone here teed up Young Thunder.

936
00:44:11,230 --> 00:44:11,710
S4: We do.

937
00:44:12,270 --> 00:44:16,270
S3: All right. Mercy in Alabama. What a great name.

938
00:44:18,110 --> 00:44:21,989
S11: Yes, sir. Um. I really love the song. I heard

939
00:44:21,989 --> 00:44:24,989
S11: the bells and I can't remember who sings it, but

940
00:44:24,989 --> 00:44:27,469
S11: it's one of our upbeat groups. But what I love

941
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:30,109
S11: about it is that it talks about how there's so

942
00:44:30,110 --> 00:44:33,550
S11: much evil in the world, and it clouded out his

943
00:44:33,550 --> 00:44:38,430
S11: thoughts of the goodness and how, um, I can't remember

944
00:44:38,430 --> 00:44:40,509
S11: how he sings it, but he talks, you know, he

945
00:44:40,510 --> 00:44:46,630
S11: brings about how Christmas, um, overcomes all evil.

946
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:49,990
S3: Yeah. Cuts through the noise. I heard the bells. Well,

947
00:44:49,989 --> 00:44:52,069
S3: we've got a version of this for you that I

948
00:44:52,070 --> 00:44:53,549
S3: think you're going to love. Mercy.

949
00:45:03,870 --> 00:45:12,410
S12: I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old familiar

950
00:45:12,450 --> 00:45:24,010
S12: carols play. And Mild and Sweet. Their songs repeat. Of

951
00:45:24,010 --> 00:45:31,890
S12: peace on Earth. Good will to men. And the bells

952
00:45:31,890 --> 00:45:44,370
S12: are ringing. Like the choir they're singing. On. In my

953
00:45:44,370 --> 00:45:58,530
S12: heart I hear them. Start. To mend. In despair I

954
00:45:58,570 --> 00:46:06,609
S12: bowed my head. There is no peace on earth, I said.

955
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:17,840
S12: Your name is strong and monstrous. All. The peace on earth.

956
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:30,399
S12: Goodwill to men. But the bells are ringing. Like the

957
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:54,000
S12: fire they're singing. Is anybody here? There. Are. Too many. Bells.

958
00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:04,040
S12: For our God is not dead. Nor the. Earth. Peace

959
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:11,790
S12: on earth shall Fail, the right prevail. With peace on earth.

960
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:28,750
S12: Good will to men. And ringing. Singing on his way.

961
00:47:31,870 --> 00:47:40,190
S12: The world revolved from night to day. A voice, a chime,

962
00:47:40,190 --> 00:47:47,590
S12: a chance of love. Of peace on earth. Good will

963
00:47:47,630 --> 00:47:59,670
S12: to men. And the bells are ringing. Like the choir

964
00:47:59,670 --> 00:48:12,460
S12: they're singing. With our hearts will be amazed. And good

965
00:48:12,460 --> 00:48:23,620
S12: will to men. Do you hear the bells ringing? Oh,

966
00:48:24,820 --> 00:48:39,379
S12: I shall sing. All of them. On earth. Good will

967
00:48:39,860 --> 00:49:14,170
S12: to men. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. It's all. Good with you, man.

968
00:49:28,850 --> 00:49:32,370
S3: I mean, here's one of the tough realities of Christmas.

969
00:49:32,650 --> 00:49:36,650
S3: Not everybody is going to be fired up to celebrate

970
00:49:36,650 --> 00:49:39,210
S3: the birth of Christ. Bottom line, by the way, we

971
00:49:39,210 --> 00:49:43,370
S3: need to be careful here. Any notion that our appetite

972
00:49:43,370 --> 00:49:48,529
S3: for the biblical Jesus being celebrated by the masses. And

973
00:49:48,530 --> 00:49:52,089
S3: we want everyone on board. I that's that's not what

974
00:49:52,090 --> 00:49:54,330
S3: Jesus promised. As a matter of fact, 11 of the

975
00:49:54,330 --> 00:49:59,650
S3: 12 disciples either were beheaded or crucified or upside down

976
00:49:59,650 --> 00:50:02,810
S3: crucified because they didn't want to be crucified as their Savior.

977
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,560
S3: They lost their lives. And Jesus himself said, if they

978
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,960
S3: persecuted me, how much more so for those who follow me.

979
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,439
S3: This is a reality that we live in today. We're

980
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,240
S3: going to cover a lot of ground here with Alex McFarland.

981
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,319
S13: You know, more and more people are speaking up about Jesus.

982
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,320
S13: The comedian David Spade, very famous comedian in the news.

983
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,440
S13: He came out and he said that he is a

984
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,600
S13: Christian and the the local mall that he took his

985
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,640
S13: kids to, they were talking about lighting the tree, the tree,

986
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,920
S13: and he said, come on, say it, the Christmas tree.

987
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:43,600
S13: And he said, David Spade. David Spade, comedian, SNL yeah,

988
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,880
S13: along with people like Rob Schneider and Victoria Jackson and

989
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,319
S13: some of the other, um, you know, well-known celebrities that

990
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,600
S13: are beginning to come out and say, look, there's kind

991
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,680
S13: of like kicking Christmas and Jesus Christ to the curb,

992
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,120
S13: and we're not going to, you know, be silent about it. But,

993
00:51:02,230 --> 00:51:05,870
S13: you know, Jesus is controversial. There's a line in the sand.

994
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:08,870
S13: I mean, if you take your stand for Jesus, you know,

995
00:51:08,910 --> 00:51:12,989
S13: that's kind of a a really definitive move. Yeah, but

996
00:51:12,989 --> 00:51:15,910
S13: that's what we're supposed to do. We're his representatives. He

997
00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:17,750
S13: was willing to die for us. We need to take

998
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:18,950
S13: our stand for him.

999
00:51:18,989 --> 00:51:22,989
S5: Doctor Alex McFarland, our guest right now, Christian apologist, author, evangelist,

1000
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:27,230
S5: religion and culture analyst. You know, there's long been conversations about,

1001
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:31,029
S5: you know, everybody wants to embrace the season and there's

1002
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:34,230
S5: lots of messaging that does strip Christ out of it.

1003
00:51:34,590 --> 00:51:37,149
S5: But are we seeing do you think we're seeing it

1004
00:51:37,150 --> 00:51:40,510
S5: escalate where these there are these sort of culture wars

1005
00:51:40,550 --> 00:51:44,230
S5: over anything that wants to put Jesus Christ front and center?

1006
00:51:44,469 --> 00:51:48,430
S13: Yeah, I absolutely think so. And, uh, you know, partly because,

1007
00:51:48,469 --> 00:51:50,790
S13: you know, in Europe and America, I mean, we really

1008
00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:53,630
S13: need a revival. And I would encourage every believer to

1009
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:57,589
S13: pray for that. But also, I think we are nearing

1010
00:51:57,630 --> 00:52:00,589
S13: the return of Jesus, I really do. And as we

1011
00:52:00,590 --> 00:52:04,739
S13: get closer to Christ's return, evil is going to escalate

1012
00:52:04,739 --> 00:52:08,740
S13: and Satan is getting busy because he knows his time

1013
00:52:08,739 --> 00:52:11,219
S13: is short. We don't know the date. I read a

1014
00:52:11,219 --> 00:52:14,739
S13: book about Bible prophecy, and I really do think the

1015
00:52:14,739 --> 00:52:21,900
S13: global escalation of evil, violence and and blasphemy is indicative

1016
00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:25,060
S13: of the spiritual battle we're in because Christ is coming

1017
00:52:25,219 --> 00:52:29,340
S13: and many people know it, but the devil knows it.

1018
00:52:29,739 --> 00:52:32,979
S3: Yeah. No. It's interesting. Alex, I've I've done a lot

1019
00:52:33,020 --> 00:52:36,299
S3: of thinking about this because you can you can pull

1020
00:52:36,340 --> 00:52:38,859
S3: certain stats. In fact Ali and I've talked about this

1021
00:52:38,860 --> 00:52:42,060
S3: around here, you can look at things like poverty, uh,

1022
00:52:42,060 --> 00:52:46,260
S3: polluted water versus clean water. Uh, and I'm talking about

1023
00:52:46,260 --> 00:52:51,300
S3: global stats on poverty, health metrics and everything. And in

1024
00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:54,700
S3: many of these dials, things are getting better and better.

1025
00:52:54,700 --> 00:52:57,900
S3: But here's what's bizarre. As I even go around the

1026
00:52:57,900 --> 00:53:01,570
S3: globe and I'm not just talking Stateside here. I'm talking

1027
00:53:01,570 --> 00:53:07,170
S3: in Burundi, Africa. There is this weird undercurrent. That's the

1028
00:53:07,170 --> 00:53:10,250
S3: only description I have for it. There's this weird undercurrent.

1029
00:53:10,690 --> 00:53:13,730
S3: And I think one of the things we champion here, Alex,

1030
00:53:13,770 --> 00:53:18,770
S3: is don't become that angry Christian that can't turn anyone

1031
00:53:18,810 --> 00:53:23,489
S3: on to Jesus. We gotta shine brightly. Yes, take a stand,

1032
00:53:23,690 --> 00:53:27,970
S3: but anticipate Jesus promise. This was coming our way. Alex.

1033
00:53:27,969 --> 00:53:28,690
S3: What do you say?

1034
00:53:29,050 --> 00:53:32,850
S13: Well said, brother, you know we need to be joyful and.

1035
00:53:32,850 --> 00:53:35,489
S13: And look, we're all, you know, we're realistic. You know,

1036
00:53:35,530 --> 00:53:38,250
S13: things are not like they ought to be. But you

1037
00:53:38,250 --> 00:53:42,130
S13: know what's really cool? In Mark 1323, Jesus said to

1038
00:53:42,130 --> 00:53:46,730
S13: the disciples that we are to take heed and rejoice,

1039
00:53:46,730 --> 00:53:50,009
S13: because I have told you all things. And one of

1040
00:53:50,010 --> 00:53:51,810
S13: the one of the cool things about being a Christian

1041
00:53:51,810 --> 00:53:55,890
S13: is we know what's going on. I mean, that's right.

1042
00:53:55,969 --> 00:53:56,890
S13: You know what I mean?

1043
00:53:56,930 --> 00:53:57,370
S10: Yeah.

1044
00:53:57,410 --> 00:53:58,490
S3: It's practical.

1045
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,560
S13: Yeah. And at the end of Hebrews chapter 11, this

1046
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,240
S13: is so cool because, look, we know the tomb is empty.

1047
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,640
S13: Christ is risen. We've got the complete Bible, and we

1048
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,920
S13: know he's with us every day of our journey down here.

1049
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,839
S13: Jesus is as close by as a prayer. But in

1050
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,919
S13: Hebrews 11, there's all these heroes of the faith that

1051
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:23,680
S13: were willing to die for the faith that they only

1052
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,360
S13: had a little smidgen of knowledge about. And it says

1053
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:33,680
S13: these persevered in faith, not yet having received the promise. Meaning?

1054
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,120
S13: I mean, I think about, you know, Abraham and David and,

1055
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,000
S13: you know, Deborah and Barak and all these people that

1056
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,840
S13: were willing to die for the Messiah that would come.

1057
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:50,319
S13: And they they only had a little smidgen of the revelation. Yeah.

1058
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,879
S13: That's right. Now, you and I, we've got the Bible

1059
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,040
S13: Peter preached at Pentecost. The Holy Spirit fell. The church

1060
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:00,060
S13: is birthed. Uh, we've been here for 2000 years. The

1061
00:55:00,060 --> 00:55:03,379
S13: tomb is empty. Christ is coming back. Israel is back

1062
00:55:03,380 --> 00:55:07,540
S13: in their land. I mean, we have every reason. And

1063
00:55:07,540 --> 00:55:09,620
S13: I just want to say to everybody, you know, Christmas

1064
00:55:09,620 --> 00:55:12,819
S13: can be stressful. I love Christmas. You know, the month

1065
00:55:12,820 --> 00:55:15,540
S13: of August is when I start getting out the Christmas stuff.

1066
00:55:15,780 --> 00:55:16,740
S13: You know, I.

1067
00:55:17,340 --> 00:55:17,740
S10: But.

1068
00:55:17,780 --> 00:55:20,500
S13: I just want to say to everybody out there, Jesus

1069
00:55:20,540 --> 00:55:21,660
S13: is with you.

1070
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:22,140
S10: Yes.

1071
00:55:22,180 --> 00:55:26,740
S13: Jesus is for you. Call out to him. You can

1072
00:55:26,739 --> 00:55:30,060
S13: make it because he is your strength. And we know

1073
00:55:30,060 --> 00:55:33,779
S13: the whole big story. It's not always easy. But let

1074
00:55:33,780 --> 00:55:36,100
S13: me tell you, when we see the Lord face to face,

1075
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:38,740
S13: and we will, it might be very soon. Might be,

1076
00:55:38,780 --> 00:55:42,379
S13: might be very soon. You will know it was so

1077
00:55:42,739 --> 00:55:43,540
S13: worth it.

1078
00:55:43,940 --> 00:55:48,020
S5: Doctor Alex McFarland, apologist, culture analyst. Our guest right now.

1079
00:55:48,380 --> 00:55:51,500
S5: Why do you believe that this season is the ideal

1080
00:55:51,540 --> 00:55:55,500
S5: time for Christians to really be focused on discipleship and

1081
00:55:55,500 --> 00:55:58,090
S5: share the gospel with the people around them.

1082
00:55:58,450 --> 00:56:00,490
S13: Well, you know, in spite of all the, you know,

1083
00:56:00,530 --> 00:56:04,049
S13: the noise around us, people do seem to soften up

1084
00:56:04,050 --> 00:56:06,890
S13: at Christmas a little bit. And maybe it's the memories

1085
00:56:06,890 --> 00:56:09,810
S13: of childhood or something, I don't know. But I want

1086
00:56:09,850 --> 00:56:12,890
S13: to challenge everybody. Um, maybe there's somebody you need to

1087
00:56:12,890 --> 00:56:15,049
S13: do a little fence mending with. That's what we say

1088
00:56:15,050 --> 00:56:18,210
S13: down south, you know, kind of reconnecting with people, a

1089
00:56:18,210 --> 00:56:21,370
S13: little fence mending. Pray about it and then pick up

1090
00:56:21,370 --> 00:56:26,009
S13: the phone or invite somebody to church. Christmas. And maybe

1091
00:56:26,010 --> 00:56:29,450
S13: it's the the the music and the songs and the memories,

1092
00:56:29,450 --> 00:56:35,170
S13: but Christmas is just the ideal time to, um, just

1093
00:56:35,170 --> 00:56:38,970
S13: show a little love and remember that, you know, life.

1094
00:56:38,969 --> 00:56:43,010
S13: Life is pretty short. And, um, the greatest thing is

1095
00:56:43,410 --> 00:56:48,450
S13: to love Jesus, to love others, and to, um, you know,

1096
00:56:48,489 --> 00:56:53,570
S13: no regrets. And, um, I know little, uh, hurts and

1097
00:56:54,010 --> 00:56:58,880
S13: grudges and, you know, bygones. Look, it's not worth it.

1098
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:07,400
S13: There's just something so therapeutic about loving, forgiving, celebrating life together.

1099
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:12,080
S13: And Christmas is a great time. Because, look, God gave

1100
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,480
S13: the greatest gift, his son Jesus. How about we give

1101
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,760
S13: a great gift to those around us, which is unconditional love?

1102
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,960
S3: Yeah, I love it, man. I love your love. What

1103
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,240
S3: you're vibing on this morning? I don't know how else

1104
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:30,720
S3: to say it. Good word. Doctor Alex McFarland. This guy's

1105
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,320
S3: all over the globe and doing a great work. Uh,

1106
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,440
S3: I'll tell you what we're going to do here, guys.

1107
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,040
S3: I feel prompted. We had this thing called ten questions

1108
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,400
S3: every Christian should be asking. And I love this resource.

1109
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,680
S3: And so we're going to get this PDF loaded up. Uh,

1110
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,640
S3: I love to what Allie set up with you, man.

1111
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,480
S3: This is a season for discipleship, man. I mean, it's

1112
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,030
S3: not just. And I dig the lights. I've got all

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S3: that stuff cooking myself. I dig it, and I love

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S3: Christmas songs and. But I'll tell you what an opportunity, Alex,

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S3: to step toward Jesus today, right? My man?

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S13: Exactly. I'm with you all the, you know, accoutrements. I

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S13: love it, too. But, you know, here's one, one very

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S13: important thing. And I'm. I'm leading a trip to Israel

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S13: in March. This is real, you know, jingle bells and

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S13: you know, all that stuff aside. No, honestly, the the

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S13: birth of Jesus. The life of Christ as foretold in

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S13: the scriptures. This is historically documentable. Um, when whenever I

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S13: go to Israel, we go to about 72 sites, Old

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S13: and New Testament sites. We go to where David fought Goliath.

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S13: We go to the tomb of Samuel, Rachel, uh, the

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S13: synagogue at Capernaum and Magdala. And I guess here's my

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S13: point to everybody listening. The fact that Jesus came proved

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S13: he is the Messiah. Rose from the dead. This is real.

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S3: Yeah.

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S13: I mean, it really, really happened.

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S3: In Mount of Olives. Yeah, in the Mount of Olives.

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S3: Didn't split open yet. So this is imminent here, bro.

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S13: Right on, right on. And so put your faith in Jesus, folks.

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S13: We always say this. If anybody's listening and you're just. Maybe.

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S13: Maybe you know about Jesus, but it's time to have

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S13: a relationship with Jesus. I promise you, folks, he's as

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S13: close by as a prayer. You call out to Jesus today,

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S13: and he will be the most real thing in your life.

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S3: Amen. That's good stuff.

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S5: Alex McFarland, our guest, got a resource for you that

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