WEBVTT - Return to the Lord 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.360 Coming to you from the Morning Star Mission sponsored studio. 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:08.080 This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:13.760 It seems like technology has upside and downside. Last night, 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:17.680 I was watching a little something with my bride and 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:20.640 all the hallmark movie. And, I mean, you know how 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:21.960 old it was. Ali. 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:22.599 How old? 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:26.800 It was so old. They had payphones. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:29.360 You're kidding. 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:31.040 Now, if you're listening right now and you don't know 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.000 what a payphone is, well. 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:33.920 Google. 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.520 Google. Yeah, you don't have to Google it anymore. That's 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.440 the beautiful thing. You don't have to Google it at all. 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:41.520 You don't have to get. 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:41.800 Those. 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.880 Crazy ads. Boy, is it a changin. Yes. Watching this thing. 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:48.199 And what's the upside of not having cell phones? 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:50.560 I love not having cell phones. Yeah. 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:53.479 Being more aware and present around. 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.240 You with the people around you. 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:56.040 Being present. 0:00:56.080 --> 0:01:01.569 Fewer distractions. Yeah. Calls are intentional. I remember, like, we 0:01:01.570 --> 0:01:04.369 couldn't wait till the phone rang and you hung on. 0:01:04.410 --> 0:01:08.450 You talked for 30 minutes on the phone. No one 0:01:08.450 --> 0:01:09.770 has a conversation anymore. 0:01:09.810 --> 0:01:10.090 No. 0:01:10.290 --> 0:01:11.330 Not much. Not. 0:01:11.370 --> 0:01:13.210 Yeah. Phone calls give you anxiety. 0:01:13.250 --> 0:01:15.450 Maybe because I'm old school, but I still have some 0:01:15.450 --> 0:01:19.330 long conversations. I need to not lie about that. But, yeah, 0:01:19.370 --> 0:01:21.770 I mean, it's wild. You know, one thing. I think 0:01:21.770 --> 0:01:26.130 it's great to know where your kids are at, but 0:01:26.130 --> 0:01:31.290 cell phones have enabled helicopter parents to hover. I mean, morning, 0:01:31.290 --> 0:01:31.850 noon and night. 0:01:31.890 --> 0:01:32.530 Absolutely. 0:01:32.770 --> 0:01:36.890 So it's a it's a wild there's there's kids aren't 0:01:36.890 --> 0:01:41.330 getting outside as much. Very true. That going on. 0:01:41.370 --> 0:01:45.090 But then there's the the convenience factor. So my son 0:01:45.130 --> 0:01:50.570 got invited to an event and the invitation said snappy casual. 0:01:51.290 --> 0:01:54.290 And I thought, what in the world does snappy casual mean? 0:01:54.450 --> 0:01:57.900 So I went to ChatGPT and I said, show me 0:01:57.900 --> 0:02:01.620 some examples of outfits that are snappy casual for a 0:02:01.620 --> 0:02:04.060 12 year old boy going to a bar mitzvah. 0:02:04.500 --> 0:02:04.940 Okay. 0:02:05.100 --> 0:02:08.420 And so it showed me these outfits that were snappy casual. 0:02:08.419 --> 0:02:12.380 So it means it's like casual but turned up a notch. 0:02:12.380 --> 0:02:15.340 So you can do khakis and a nice shirt, but 0:02:15.340 --> 0:02:19.060 then do some cool sneakers. I got a whole picture 0:02:19.100 --> 0:02:23.020 graph of outfits for my son that were snappy, casual, 0:02:23.020 --> 0:02:25.500 that were it was very helpful for me to dress. 0:02:25.540 --> 0:02:28.860 I remember that on its way. Snappy casual, snappy casual. 0:02:28.900 --> 0:02:30.380 I preach snappy casual. 0:02:30.419 --> 0:02:30.780 Yeah. 0:02:30.820 --> 0:02:31.740 You live snappy. 0:02:31.780 --> 0:02:33.500 Casual fast snappy casual. 0:02:33.540 --> 0:02:35.060 You're a snappy casual guy. 0:02:35.139 --> 0:02:36.700 Well, snappy casual. 0:02:36.740 --> 0:02:37.419 There you have. 0:02:37.419 --> 0:02:37.660 It. 0:02:37.900 --> 0:02:40.419 See, technology can make you feel a little bit better 0:02:40.419 --> 0:02:43.340 when you're on yourself, when you're down on your wardrobe. 0:02:44.980 --> 0:02:45.580 Oh, man. 0:02:45.620 --> 0:02:48.140 That's really funny, by the way. That's something that's changed 0:02:48.139 --> 0:02:50.340 over the years, hasn't it? I mean, I used to 0:02:50.380 --> 0:02:52.940 preach in Joseph Abboud suits. 0:02:52.940 --> 0:02:53.339 Oh, yeah. 0:02:53.380 --> 0:02:55.000 And it wasn't that long ago. go. 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.160 No, no, no, the suit thing changed. You know, I mean, 0:02:58.200 --> 0:02:58.800 pretty recently. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.440 For many churches, I mean, some churches still are. 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:02.280 Yeah. No there's. 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.680 Some. Yeah, there's some that are still breaking suits. 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:06.720 It's not a requirement though anymore. It used to be 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.840 a requirement. Yeah. Had to wear one or expectation. 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:10.200 Yeah. 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:15.320 It was kind of seen that way but yeah. Technology's 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:19.440 a funny thing because it's like any innovation there's good 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:23.320 and there's bad. There's good and there's lousy. And I 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:26.919 don't know what outweighs what with what's going on right now. 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.120 I got a I'm an optimist. Would you say I'm 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:30.680 an optimist? 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:30.960 Yes. 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:35.960 Yeah. I'm not bullish on modern technology being good for 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.960 us over being bad for us. I'm kind of on 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.760 the we've gotten to a point right now where it's 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.840 kind of I'm not sure about this. 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:48.480 I think there's fairness to that. Obviously there's really good things, 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.520 but there are really, really difficult things. Really hard or 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:55.050 bad things that That they way back and forth a 0:03:55.050 --> 0:03:55.890 lot sometimes. 0:03:55.930 --> 0:03:58.090 Yeah. I mean, they just I mean, I don't want 0:03:58.130 --> 0:04:00.530 to get down in the dumps here, but the accessibility 0:04:00.530 --> 0:04:05.010 of pornography and the here's what's amazing is bullying used 0:04:05.010 --> 0:04:08.330 to be in person on the playground. Yeah. Now, I mean, 0:04:08.330 --> 0:04:12.530 I'm watching data and studies that are saying online bullying 0:04:12.810 --> 0:04:16.490 has exponentially increased because it's online. 0:04:16.529 --> 0:04:16.690 Yeah. 0:04:16.690 --> 0:04:20.250 And that's and even that is probably, I would say 0:04:20.529 --> 0:04:22.650 ten years ago was when people were talking a lot 0:04:22.650 --> 0:04:26.570 about online bullying. And even that has shifted. Now it's 0:04:26.570 --> 0:04:30.210 even more nuanced like that. People can create a fake 0:04:30.210 --> 0:04:34.530 profile and impersonate you. So there's like these layers to 0:04:34.570 --> 0:04:37.490 it where it becomes easier and easier for people to 0:04:37.930 --> 0:04:42.409 get away with things to, you know, identity theft and 0:04:42.410 --> 0:04:44.810 more than just like stealing your credit card information, but 0:04:44.810 --> 0:04:47.529 someone actually pretending to be you online. 0:04:48.210 --> 0:04:51.290 Yeah. I mean, it's it's crazy. There's that going on. 0:04:51.339 --> 0:04:55.780 And then I saw this crazy article that the online 0:04:55.779 --> 0:05:00.460 bullying has shifted, because now there's some code for kids 0:05:00.980 --> 0:05:03.740 so that adults didn't don't know it unless they know 0:05:03.740 --> 0:05:06.620 the code. Like there's emojis that are bully emojis and 0:05:06.620 --> 0:05:09.420 there's little keywords that are bully keywords. 0:05:09.460 --> 0:05:10.460 It doesn't surprise me. 0:05:10.500 --> 0:05:12.420 No. I mean, it's a it's a whole subculture. 0:05:12.460 --> 0:05:17.219 Platforms like Snapchat where supposedly things disappear. 0:05:17.900 --> 0:05:19.300 But they don't. Right. Because you can. 0:05:19.339 --> 0:05:21.820 I mean, you can screenshot it. It notifies you that 0:05:21.820 --> 0:05:25.460 it's that someone's taking a screenshot, but in the way 0:05:25.500 --> 0:05:29.140 kids use it, they think this image is going to disappear. 0:05:29.300 --> 0:05:31.500 Boy, I'm going to have to. Could you coach me 0:05:31.500 --> 0:05:34.980 up on Screenshotting because Young Thunder thinks he's getting away 0:05:34.980 --> 0:05:37.180 with murder when he's bullying me with Snapchat. 0:05:37.180 --> 0:05:38.100 So I. 0:05:38.140 --> 0:05:38.380 Need. 0:05:38.380 --> 0:05:40.020 Snapchat. You know, Carl. 0:05:40.020 --> 0:05:40.140 And. 0:05:40.140 --> 0:05:40.500 I are. 0:05:40.500 --> 0:05:41.900 On Snapchat every day. 0:05:42.339 --> 0:05:43.900 I don't even I've never been. 0:05:43.900 --> 0:05:46.700 On so disruptive during the show. So disruptive. 0:05:47.100 --> 0:05:49.420 Yeah. During the show, the show is going. 0:05:49.550 --> 0:05:51.070 More of the in-person variety. 0:05:51.110 --> 0:05:53.830 The show's going great in Young Thunder's blasted me here 0:05:53.830 --> 0:05:54.710 behind the scenes. 0:05:55.070 --> 0:05:56.029 Sending him selfies. 0:05:56.110 --> 0:05:56.670 Hurts. 0:05:57.190 --> 0:05:57.830 Oh, man. 0:05:58.950 --> 0:05:59.270 Yeah. 0:05:59.830 --> 0:06:02.070 You get teased about that stuff because it's happening. 0:06:02.110 --> 0:06:02.350 Yeah. 0:06:02.470 --> 0:06:03.830 It's happening. Yeah, yeah. 0:06:04.110 --> 0:06:07.029 Okay. Coming up, we're talking about this this morning guys. 0:06:07.029 --> 0:06:10.750 It's tough out there. But what's it leading us to 0:06:10.790 --> 0:06:14.230 understand and do. And we're going to have a good 0:06:14.230 --> 0:06:15.990 morning here. And what if you need to return to 0:06:15.990 --> 0:06:18.150 the Lord. Today we're covering a lot in this hour. 0:06:18.190 --> 0:06:18.750 Hang on. 0:06:19.350 --> 0:06:23.909 A basketball mom who's mastered the dad joke. Ali is 0:06:23.910 --> 0:06:27.590 in the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio. 0:06:27.790 --> 0:06:31.510 You truly loved by God today. Somebody needs to hear that. 0:06:31.550 --> 0:06:34.469 Is that you? You're loved by God today. Please don't 0:06:34.470 --> 0:06:38.510 forget that as you are. He doesn't want to leave 0:06:38.510 --> 0:06:40.390 you as you are. We're going to be talking about 0:06:40.430 --> 0:06:42.549 returning to the Lord. Some of you may look around 0:06:42.550 --> 0:06:45.590 your life and you see little patterns of destruction, or 0:06:45.630 --> 0:06:48.730 things that are getting gobbled up by modern day locusts 0:06:49.050 --> 0:06:52.250 and you're like, ah, what's going on? Sometimes it can 0:06:52.250 --> 0:06:54.890 be the circumstances of the world around us. Other times 0:06:54.890 --> 0:06:58.250 it it can be because we've wandered away from God. 0:06:58.529 --> 0:07:01.089 And God's got an answer for that today. Well, we're 0:07:01.089 --> 0:07:06.530 talking technology. Technology has upsides and downsides. And. Oh, have 0:07:06.529 --> 0:07:08.770 we got an expert, Ali? 0:07:08.810 --> 0:07:12.250 Yeah. Imagine sitting down and your assignment is to interview. 0:07:12.810 --> 0:07:17.810 I kind of like Siri. Hey, Siri. Let's have a 0:07:17.810 --> 0:07:21.770 whole conversation. Just you and me. Kind of strange. 0:07:21.970 --> 0:07:24.850 Only here's the problem. I have a I have an 0:07:24.850 --> 0:07:27.930 easier time talking with a robot if I know it's 0:07:27.930 --> 0:07:31.170 a robot. If it sounds like a robot, when it 0:07:31.170 --> 0:07:36.809 sounds like a neighbor, that's a problem. Or is it? 0:07:38.330 --> 0:07:39.090 Hang on. 0:07:39.690 --> 0:07:42.770 He was sharing the gospel on the radio, and then 0:07:42.770 --> 0:07:47.140 he got saved. Young thunders in the crew. It's Carl 0:07:47.140 --> 0:07:48.820 and crew on Moody Radio. 0:07:49.100 --> 0:07:54.100 I have a huge celebration moment. You guys ready for it? 0:07:54.140 --> 0:07:54.940 Okay, ready. 0:07:55.220 --> 0:08:00.020 I no longer Google anything. I'm a Crocker. 0:08:00.380 --> 0:08:00.580 Oh. 0:08:00.620 --> 0:08:01.020 What? 0:08:01.060 --> 0:08:05.060 I'm a Crocker, not a Googler. Yeah, I, I am 0:08:05.060 --> 0:08:08.820 blown away by it, and I've checked it out. It's crazy. Ali, 0:08:09.140 --> 0:08:11.300 I don't know how it happens. And I've got a 0:08:11.300 --> 0:08:13.900 friend who's an absolute brilliant guy in Alaska. I was 0:08:13.900 --> 0:08:16.420 talking with him and he's like, how does I spit 0:08:16.460 --> 0:08:20.900 out this stuff? Like instantly in full sentence form? And 0:08:20.900 --> 0:08:25.140 they just heard the question. It's almost scary. Well, with us, 0:08:25.140 --> 0:08:27.780 we got an AI expert when he got his PhD 0:08:27.780 --> 0:08:30.300 in this, I don't think he knew what was coming 0:08:30.300 --> 0:08:31.140 his way. Ali. 0:08:31.180 --> 0:08:32.340 Or maybe he did. 0:08:32.380 --> 0:08:32.780 Maybe he. 0:08:32.780 --> 0:08:36.260 Did. Doctor Drew Dickens joining us right now. Did you 0:08:36.260 --> 0:08:40.140 anticipate that this is where we would be with AI? 0:08:40.660 --> 0:08:43.140 Boy, that makes me some kind of creepy. Like doctor 0:08:43.179 --> 0:08:47.470 up in a tower right there. Wild hair, sparks flying everywhere. 0:08:48.990 --> 0:08:50.830 And no, by the way, I had no clue. I 0:08:50.830 --> 0:08:53.470 couldn't get a return phone call six years ago when 0:08:53.470 --> 0:08:56.830 OpenAI hadn't even been launched yet. And. And now all 0:08:56.830 --> 0:08:58.950 of a sudden, it's like, now I'm on with you 0:08:58.950 --> 0:09:02.430 guys talking about it. So it's amazing and just incredibly fast. 0:09:02.429 --> 0:09:04.470 Every day, a couple of times a day. I was 0:09:04.470 --> 0:09:06.310 listening to a podcast the other day, and they they 0:09:06.309 --> 0:09:08.469 actually had to interrupt halfway through because there was an 0:09:08.470 --> 0:09:11.550 update of what they had already started talking about. So 0:09:11.550 --> 0:09:14.910 it's moving incredibly fast and it's just it's just amazing. Hey, 0:09:14.910 --> 0:09:17.949 let me respond to your, uh, your friend in Alaska 0:09:17.950 --> 0:09:21.110 who was asking those questions. You know, the spookiest answer 0:09:21.110 --> 0:09:26.030 to that question is no one knows. So Geoffrey Hinton, um. 0:09:26.070 --> 0:09:26.510 Was. 0:09:26.750 --> 0:09:29.870 Was the AI kind of creator at Google? Um, and 0:09:29.870 --> 0:09:32.270 it's still around. Uh, he's a professor up in Canada, 0:09:32.429 --> 0:09:34.670 and he'll tell you flat out he invented what's called 0:09:34.670 --> 0:09:38.270 the neural network, which he basically created the architecture on 0:09:38.270 --> 0:09:42.040 how AI thinks. And he'll tell you he doesn't know why. 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.600 He doesn't know how it does it. So, yeah, the 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.000 spookiest thing is there's no one behind this thing. It's 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.240 easy to say, hey, it's made by man, so it 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.200 must be now. It's on its own. 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:55.160 Doctor Drew Dickens, he's a visionary leader, AI expert, scholar. 0:09:55.480 --> 0:10:00.600 Tell us about a recent podcast episode you recorded. Speaking of. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.640 Kind of spooky. Tell us about. 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:02.880 It. 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:07.520 Yes. Most definitely. So I've got this podcast, AI and spirituality. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.960 And the first, I don't know, 7 or 8 episodes 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.000 are just kind of catching people up on what's going on. Uh, 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:14.800 and not to be afraid, but just to kind of 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.360 start putting your toe in the water. So the first 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:20.199 episodes are just about, uh, you know, what is an algorithm? 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.840 What is a language model? But after that, I start 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.640 every week kind of intentionally exploring a new launch or 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.640 a new feature. And there was a company called Sesame, 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.880 and they're inventing, um, glasses that, that we'll be able 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.440 to wear and look at things and, and be able to, 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.920 to interact. And they decided, you know, what we need 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.620 is a, a companion When you wear the glasses, they'll 0:10:41.620 --> 0:10:43.220 be able to talk to you and interact with you 0:10:43.220 --> 0:10:45.220 as you're walking around with these glasses on. So they've 0:10:45.220 --> 0:10:47.860 put a lot of time into this companion. And there 0:10:47.860 --> 0:10:50.620 are two of them. There's Maya and Miles. And so 0:10:50.620 --> 0:10:53.740 the other day on an episode, I decided, you know what? 0:10:53.780 --> 0:10:56.980 Maya and I are going to have a conversation about spirituality. 0:10:57.100 --> 0:11:02.020 And it was mind blowing. It is so real. The interaction, 0:11:02.059 --> 0:11:05.420 the the emotion in her voice. And and she's got 0:11:05.420 --> 0:11:07.940 a super dry sense of humor. She'd be a great host, 0:11:07.940 --> 0:11:11.540 by the way. Great sense of humor, very sarcastic. And 0:11:11.540 --> 0:11:14.340 she and I just had a blast talking about just 0:11:14.380 --> 0:11:16.260 the deeper things of life. 0:11:16.500 --> 0:11:20.100 Okay, this is freaking people out. Yeah, not least of 0:11:20.100 --> 0:11:22.220 which is me. And I'm pretty open to this stuff. 0:11:22.220 --> 0:11:25.260 And I'm and I'm benefiting greatly from grok. And I 0:11:25.260 --> 0:11:28.179 think Christians are sometimes late adopters on this. How do 0:11:28.179 --> 0:11:31.820 you navigate the world where you don't know why I 0:11:31.860 --> 0:11:35.540 can respond so quickly, and where we're going forward? How 0:11:35.540 --> 0:11:36.980 do you interact with this? 0:11:37.220 --> 0:11:39.830 You know, I came across a great term. I don't know, 0:11:39.870 --> 0:11:42.470 maybe ten years ago, I was always been very active 0:11:42.510 --> 0:11:45.230 up in Silicon Valley and, and involved in a couple 0:11:45.270 --> 0:11:47.589 of different startups and whatnot. And there's a phrase that 0:11:47.590 --> 0:11:51.829 they use, uh, kind of a critical one, but they'll just, uh, 0:11:51.870 --> 0:11:54.670 quite often programmers will just look at each other and go, hey, 0:11:54.870 --> 0:11:59.590 go touch grass. And I love the idea of just 0:11:59.870 --> 0:12:03.110 all of us pausing periodically and just going outside and 0:12:03.110 --> 0:12:05.550 take your shoes off and walk through the grass is 0:12:05.550 --> 0:12:08.710 to get grounded again. And that's what I think is 0:12:08.710 --> 0:12:11.750 going to creep up on us, and already is creeping 0:12:11.750 --> 0:12:13.550 up on us, where we begin to rely on this 0:12:13.590 --> 0:12:19.350 more and more grok, Claude or these other language models. And, uh, 0:12:19.350 --> 0:12:21.750 I love that you've kind of navigated towards grok. I'm 0:12:21.790 --> 0:12:24.630 more of a Claude guy, which to those listening, is 0:12:24.630 --> 0:12:27.230 another language model like grok. Um, but it's easy to 0:12:27.230 --> 0:12:30.069 get wrapped up in this or Maya and really kind 0:12:30.110 --> 0:12:32.590 of forget, you know, what is going on right now. 0:12:32.590 --> 0:12:35.949 And I need to get back to this, like what 0:12:35.950 --> 0:12:37.800 you and I are doing right now, what the three 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.480 of us are doing. I need to get back and 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.240 look people in the eye and listen to conversations and 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.760 and just walk through the grass sometimes. So that's one 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.000 of the things I'm, I'm really touching a lot on 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:51.320 lately is encouraging people to step away and to kind 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:56.360 of re-engage with creation, uh, re-engage with the creator. 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.760 We've got Doctor Drew Dickens with us right now. So 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:02.679 speaking of Touch and Grass, you've written a book to 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:06.600 help people re-engage with spiritual discipline. Hearing from the father. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.480 It seems like it couldn't be further apart from your 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.880 work with I, but kind of talk about these two 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.680 things that you have a hand in. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.959 First off, just acknowledging that there's a separation between the 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:21.240 two and and it's easy to get lost in whatever 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.640 technology media. I don't mean to to trash all that, 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.720 but it's easy to get lost. And especially as you 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:30.280 said earlier, when they respond so quickly. I coined a 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.560 term a couple of years ago about AI is incapable 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:37.090 of not answering. Rare use of a double negative there, 0:13:37.090 --> 0:13:40.210 but it can't not answer. And so it can't say boy, 0:13:40.250 --> 0:13:43.050 good question I don't know. And so you've got something 0:13:43.050 --> 0:13:45.650 that will always answer your questions and answer them quickly. 0:13:45.690 --> 0:13:48.809 And boy that that's addictive. In in our world where 0:13:48.809 --> 0:13:52.489 we're just constantly looking for answers or direction or guidance. 0:13:52.530 --> 0:13:54.010 And so it's easy to get lost in that. And 0:13:54.010 --> 0:13:56.370 I don't fault I don't shade anybody for that because 0:13:56.370 --> 0:13:59.370 I get lost in that. And so I thought, man, 0:13:59.410 --> 0:14:01.810 we need to find some way in in Scripture. I 0:14:01.809 --> 0:14:04.250 just love the story. It's how I started the book. 0:14:04.250 --> 0:14:06.410 We look for him in the thunder, right? We look 0:14:06.410 --> 0:14:08.329 for him in the earthquake. We look for him in 0:14:08.330 --> 0:14:12.650 the the loud voice. But it's his whisper that we 0:14:12.650 --> 0:14:15.130 really need to learn to stop and just again walk 0:14:15.130 --> 0:14:17.970 through the grass and just stop and and look up. 0:14:17.970 --> 0:14:20.810 We were at a church service in New York. Beautiful church, 0:14:20.810 --> 0:14:24.930 beautiful ceilings, and you couldn't help the entire service. But 0:14:24.930 --> 0:14:27.970 look up. And that's, I think architecturally, what they were 0:14:27.970 --> 0:14:30.370 looking to do is just put yourself in a place 0:14:30.370 --> 0:14:34.470 where you're constantly looking up and being reminded of creation. 0:14:34.470 --> 0:14:36.830 And that was my heart. In writing, whispers of the 0:14:36.830 --> 0:14:40.630 spirit is to man engage in the technology. It's not 0:14:40.630 --> 0:14:42.950 going away. It's only getting better every day. It will. 0:14:42.950 --> 0:14:45.030 It will never be any worse than it is today. 0:14:45.150 --> 0:14:48.270 So engage in that. Learn it. But don't forget to 0:14:48.310 --> 0:14:50.470 listen to the whispers of the spirit. 0:14:50.590 --> 0:14:53.550 I got a hunch. My hunch is that you're touching grass. 0:14:53.550 --> 0:14:58.070 Moment is this whispers of the spirit. And you must 0:14:58.070 --> 0:15:00.190 feel at times. I'm not going to put words in 0:15:00.190 --> 0:15:02.630 your mouth. Doctor. Drew Dickens is with us right now. 0:15:02.630 --> 0:15:05.030 He's got a PhD in this stuff called I before 0:15:05.030 --> 0:15:08.870 it was even popular. But there must be a sense 0:15:08.870 --> 0:15:11.870 in which this is almost the cry of your soul 0:15:11.910 --> 0:15:14.830 to save us from ourselves on I. Am I going 0:15:14.830 --> 0:15:15.870 too far there? I mean. 0:15:15.990 --> 0:15:18.590 Wow, man, I'm going to steal that phrase. Thank you. That. 0:15:18.870 --> 0:15:21.910 Well, I mean, but really this is scary stuff. I 0:15:21.950 --> 0:15:25.470 where it's going and you're saying let God still be God. 0:15:25.990 --> 0:15:30.030 Look at our relationship with technology as, as Christians. I 0:15:30.030 --> 0:15:31.800 mean we can go back. Oh my gosh, we can 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.240 go back, you know, thousand, 2000 BC when we have 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.880 the ancient prophets of Scripture, them relying on the Ark 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.560 of the covenant, them relying on, you know, casting of lots, uh, 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:46.320 the Urim and Thummim in first and second Samuel, ah, 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.359 was a device that the priests used to inquire of God. 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:55.320 So we're used to, um, leveraging technology to encounter the divine. 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.080 And we've always done that. Then fast forward, man. We've got, uh, 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.880 we've got Gutenberg and we've got the printing press. And 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:06.160 and so we've always leveraged, oh my gosh, the radio. Okay. Yeah. 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.280 You go back to the Billy Graham Organization, which leveraged 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:13.000 the power of this brand new medium to reach millions 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.640 of people with the gospel like you do every morning, 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:19.720 every day. So we have this relationship with technology to 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:23.800 help us encounter God. So it's nothing new. I think 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:28.280 what's unusual about this version of those things is, well, 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.970 Boy again, as you touched on a moment ago, it's quick, 0:16:31.010 --> 0:16:34.810 it's instant. It seems to have a personality when we 0:16:34.810 --> 0:16:37.490 talk to it, when we engage with it, and it 0:16:37.530 --> 0:16:42.210 derives that knowledge from the entirety of human knowledge. So 0:16:42.210 --> 0:16:46.890 from Sumerian writings to, frankly, this broadcast this morning, it's 0:16:46.890 --> 0:16:49.450 consumed all that. So it can draw on that to 0:16:49.490 --> 0:16:53.570 give us instant answers, which isn't that unusual to forms 0:16:53.570 --> 0:16:56.930 of technology that we as believers have have sought and 0:16:56.930 --> 0:16:58.330 leveraged in the past. 0:16:58.490 --> 0:17:01.890 But what we're looking for is that deeper connection with 0:17:01.890 --> 0:17:04.649 the divine, which can often feel elusive when you have 0:17:04.650 --> 0:17:08.010 technology pulling at you, when there's distractions, when there's so 0:17:08.010 --> 0:17:11.410 much noise, what do you want the reader to gain? 0:17:11.410 --> 0:17:13.850 This 40 day guide to intimate prayer? 0:17:14.050 --> 0:17:16.330 You just touched on something I think really, really spot 0:17:16.369 --> 0:17:19.609 on is we long for that connection, and I think 0:17:19.609 --> 0:17:24.250 if we're not careful, we can find ourselves relying on 0:17:24.250 --> 0:17:29.939 this for divine inquiry. Divine guidance that was my dissertation 0:17:29.940 --> 0:17:34.100 was its effect on spiritual direction. So instead of talking 0:17:34.140 --> 0:17:37.500 to a pastor, talking to a spiritual guide, talking to 0:17:37.540 --> 0:17:40.460 someone in your circle that you trust in and can 0:17:40.460 --> 0:17:42.700 meet with and have you know what and have shared 0:17:42.700 --> 0:17:46.100 experiences with. They may not answer the phone call at 0:17:46.100 --> 0:17:48.859 3 a.m., uh, or they may go, hey, you know what? 0:17:49.220 --> 0:17:51.540 This has been fun, but I got to go. This 0:17:51.540 --> 0:17:54.580 won't it won't say, hey, I'm bored, let's move on. 0:17:54.580 --> 0:17:57.300 And so I think there's going to be a time 0:17:57.300 --> 0:18:00.700 where we're looking for it to answer a calling in 0:18:00.700 --> 0:18:03.939 our life, uh, that it will be happy to provide 0:18:03.940 --> 0:18:06.540 to us. And I think we just need to learn 0:18:06.540 --> 0:18:10.020 to have others in our life and, frankly, be mindful 0:18:10.020 --> 0:18:12.020 of that in our life where we need to stop 0:18:12.020 --> 0:18:15.300 and go, okay, I need to we keep going back 0:18:15.300 --> 0:18:16.900 to this, but I need to go outside and walk 0:18:16.900 --> 0:18:19.340 in some grass. I love it. Um, and just be 0:18:19.340 --> 0:18:20.380 sensitive to that. 0:18:20.420 --> 0:18:24.219 It's really good. It's really good. It's freaky. Uh, I'm 0:18:24.260 --> 0:18:25.830 going to give it to you straight up. I mean, 0:18:25.830 --> 0:18:30.750 I'm I'm gobsmacked by what I'm finding as I do 0:18:30.790 --> 0:18:34.070 grok searches and I'm I'm leveraging it for tons of stuff. 0:18:34.109 --> 0:18:37.670 I mean, historical cultural study for message prep that I'm doing. 0:18:37.710 --> 0:18:41.189 I mean, it's it's crazy. Okay, Ali, we got a 0:18:41.190 --> 0:18:44.430 two for here because we got something really intriguing with 0:18:44.430 --> 0:18:45.470 this podcast, right? 0:18:45.510 --> 0:18:47.869 Yeah. You're interested in both, right? The whispers of the 0:18:47.869 --> 0:18:50.790 spirit of 40 Day Guide to Intimate Prayer. But also, 0:18:50.790 --> 0:18:53.670 you can't help but wonder. I wonder what that podcast 0:18:53.670 --> 0:18:57.390 sounds like. We've got links to the book and the podcast. 0:18:57.390 --> 0:19:03.350 Just text the word peace to (800) 555-7898. Text peace p 0:19:03.550 --> 0:19:08.150 a c e peace to 800 555 7898. 0:19:08.950 --> 0:19:11.950 This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio. 0:19:12.710 --> 0:19:15.149 You ever had a situation where you're looking at something 0:19:15.150 --> 0:19:17.070 in the Word of God and you go, why didn't 0:19:17.070 --> 0:19:20.149 I see this sooner? We've all had that. 0:19:20.190 --> 0:19:21.270 Oh, yeah. Absolutely. 0:19:21.310 --> 0:19:25.970 Yeah. We go. Why didn't I see this sooner? This morning? Early? Actually, 0:19:26.010 --> 0:19:29.290 it was last week. I found this reference. I did 0:19:29.290 --> 0:19:31.609 a deep dive on it early this morning and boy 0:19:31.609 --> 0:19:33.490 is it powerhouse. This could be one of the most 0:19:33.490 --> 0:19:36.570 powerful moments in your life spiritually. And I'm not overstating it. 0:19:36.570 --> 0:19:40.450 I'm not overstating it. So let me set it up 0:19:40.450 --> 0:19:44.250 this way. There are a lot of reasons why things 0:19:44.250 --> 0:19:47.210 fall down around our lives. Fair guys? 0:19:47.250 --> 0:19:47.609 Yes. 0:19:47.650 --> 0:19:48.330 Very fair. 0:19:49.210 --> 0:19:52.770 And there are a lot of external forces at work. 0:19:53.010 --> 0:19:55.610 I mean, we've got demonic things that are going on. 0:19:55.609 --> 0:19:58.330 We've got people that are under the influence of the 0:19:58.330 --> 0:20:01.650 prince and power of the air, and that is Satan. 0:20:02.570 --> 0:20:08.210 And there are just there's natural things. Myanmar. I mean, 0:20:08.210 --> 0:20:11.090 look at what's going on with earthquakes. I mean, my goodness, 0:20:12.609 --> 0:20:15.490 there's so many things going on in this broken and 0:20:15.490 --> 0:20:19.929 fallen world that we look back and go, oh my goodness, 0:20:19.970 --> 0:20:23.419 look at what? Look at the fallout from this thing. 0:20:23.780 --> 0:20:29.300 Things are broken. So the danger is, is that as 0:20:29.300 --> 0:20:32.619 Christ followers, we miss one of the greatest gifts God 0:20:32.619 --> 0:20:41.899 gives to us. And that is looking for. Personal responsibility. 0:20:43.420 --> 0:20:46.859 No matter if it's a grain of sand compared to 0:20:46.900 --> 0:20:53.659 an a beach of external forces, that is our responsibility 0:20:53.660 --> 0:20:58.580 in this thing. And this can get so difficult because 0:20:58.580 --> 0:21:01.020 you've got Satan himself saying, don't look at the grain 0:21:01.060 --> 0:21:03.939 of sand of your responsibility, right? I mean, that's the 0:21:03.940 --> 0:21:04.820 way it rolls. 0:21:04.859 --> 0:21:06.340 It is. And there are so many things that have 0:21:06.340 --> 0:21:09.139 happened to us where we have zero fault in it. Yep. 0:21:09.180 --> 0:21:12.540 Zero fault. So you could have had a very traumatic background. 0:21:12.540 --> 0:21:13.780 That was zero. 0:21:14.060 --> 0:21:14.859 Sexual assault. 0:21:14.859 --> 0:21:17.780 For you to own in that. What it can produce 0:21:17.780 --> 0:21:20.390 in you is a is a is a bitterness and 0:21:20.390 --> 0:21:24.070 anger that starts. You start to carry into other situations 0:21:24.070 --> 0:21:26.510 in your life where you show up in your workplace, 0:21:26.670 --> 0:21:29.670 and maybe because of some trauma in your background, you 0:21:29.670 --> 0:21:32.990 react to people poorly. You don't trust people. 0:21:32.990 --> 0:21:33.869 You snap at. 0:21:33.869 --> 0:21:34.389 People. 0:21:34.630 --> 0:21:37.430 And so you had zero ownership in the thing that 0:21:37.430 --> 0:21:40.629 happened to you. But what it produced in you causes 0:21:40.630 --> 0:21:43.670 you sometimes to then sin against other people. And you 0:21:43.670 --> 0:21:47.070 have to own the sin where you can own regardless 0:21:47.070 --> 0:21:49.270 of you've got nothing to own. And what happened in 0:21:49.270 --> 0:21:50.070 your background? 0:21:50.109 --> 0:21:52.629 Yeah, it's the council. My bride got from her mentor 0:21:52.950 --> 0:21:56.550 named her daughter after her. She was so wise. Some 0:21:56.550 --> 0:22:02.430 of the best counsel I've ever received was from my mouth. 0:22:02.470 --> 0:22:04.750 The mouth of my bride. After she had met with 0:22:04.750 --> 0:22:08.590 Muriel one afternoon, way back in the day, nearly 40 0:22:08.590 --> 0:22:13.190 years ago. For crying out loud in Marilyn, Ford looked 0:22:13.190 --> 0:22:18.800 at Jinan and said, as difficult as it is whenever 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:23.879 you face fallout in your life if there is 10% ownership. 0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:32.520 And so let's break this down 20%, 50%, 70%, 0.05% 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:36.280 that you can own. And I want to restate, are 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:38.920 there issues out there that people have gone through that 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:43.480 have zero response? Yes. But Allie's right too on this 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:46.520 one because what that can create is a downstream impact. 0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:51.200 That's like, okay, that thing back there was. And let's 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:59.960 just take sexual assault that had nothing to do with me. Childhood. 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.480 Not even going to go for any little ear warnings here. 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:08.960 But you know what I'm talking about. Boom crew. But 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:14.680 carried forward if if it begins to cloud everything around 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:18.420 us and we then find ourselves saying, God, help me 0:23:18.420 --> 0:23:23.699 to separate that from this. That's a powerful growth opportunity. 0:23:26.340 --> 0:23:32.459 And oftentimes, here's what we miss. I know I've done it. 0:23:33.660 --> 0:23:35.540 It's easy to do in marriage. It's easy to do 0:23:35.540 --> 0:23:38.300 in business partnerships. It's easy to do with your co-hosts 0:23:38.300 --> 0:23:44.379 on Carl and Crew. Morning. It's easy. It's easy. It's 0:23:44.380 --> 0:23:49.060 easy to point. How long has it been said? You know, 0:23:49.140 --> 0:23:52.219 when you got one finger pointing forward, you got, you know, 0:23:52.220 --> 0:23:52.900 what do they say? 0:23:53.260 --> 0:23:54.500 Pointing back at you. 0:23:54.540 --> 0:23:56.380 Or three and a half. I never could get my thumb. 0:23:56.540 --> 0:23:57.859 The thumb can't go backwards. 0:23:57.900 --> 0:24:00.420 Yeah, we got it. We got it. 0:24:00.940 --> 0:24:01.820 Three and a half. 0:24:01.859 --> 0:24:02.219 Yeah. 0:24:04.180 --> 0:24:08.700 And that's the point. Now, some of you have things 0:24:08.700 --> 0:24:12.899 that it's like. If I'm honest with God. Carl. Yeah, 0:24:12.900 --> 0:24:18.670 A man. There's no question in my mind. I got 100% 0:24:18.670 --> 0:24:22.310 ownership in this one thing. And some of you guys 0:24:22.310 --> 0:24:27.590 got 70%. I can own some 40%, some 30%, some 10%. 0:24:27.869 --> 0:24:32.310 You know, getting into percentages can be dicey, too, because 0:24:32.310 --> 0:24:38.790 you can say, I got 0.0123. That's pretty small to own. 0:24:39.590 --> 0:24:43.469 And it's really hard to own your 1%. If you 0:24:43.470 --> 0:24:47.070 feel like the person who's 99% needs to own it won't. 0:24:47.390 --> 0:24:49.510 And that can get you stuck, too. I've been there. 0:24:50.070 --> 0:24:50.710 But do. 0:24:50.710 --> 0:24:52.790 You see how much more at fault she. 0:24:52.790 --> 0:24:53.270 Is? 0:24:53.310 --> 0:24:54.270 Look at that sucker. 0:24:54.310 --> 0:24:55.950 God, she's not apologizing. 0:24:55.990 --> 0:24:58.310 To me for the 99%. 0:24:58.550 --> 0:25:02.629 Smoke em! God! Smoke em! I'm standing by and watching. 0:25:02.630 --> 0:25:05.189 I'm in the front row. Let lightning fall. 0:25:06.270 --> 0:25:06.910 Careful. 0:25:07.310 --> 0:25:14.040 Yeah. And here's why the prophet Joel said, there's so 0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:17.640 much that we're missing out on. And coming up here, 0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:21.320 we're going to break it down from the prophet Joel. 0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:25.479 We don't even know the exact time that it was written, 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.399 but boy, is it relevant. No matter what time it 0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:31.679 was written. So I want you to have just a 0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:36.520 moment here of introspection and be willing to say, search me, God. 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:38.359 Search me. Hang on. 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:43.359 Romans eight brought her to Jesus while broadcasting traffic overnight. 0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:47.400 Super die is in the crew. It's Carl and crew 0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:48.640 on Moody Radio. 0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:52.960 The essence of discipleship is really not to go through 0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:56.920 just perfunctory motions. Spiritual disciplines are great, but there's moments 0:25:56.920 --> 0:26:01.600 of introspection, humble introspection that allow us to change radically. 0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:03.800 But I don't want you to head into this without 0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:07.440 the greater vision. So the prophet Joel, we don't know 0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:10.530 when this book was written. Exactly. There's a lot of 0:26:10.530 --> 0:26:15.130 strong opinions on both sides. Some say 800 A.D. excuse 0:26:15.130 --> 0:26:18.210 me BC, and some say it was during the Babylonian 0:26:18.210 --> 0:26:24.450 captivity in 536 or so BC. But it really doesn't matter, 0:26:24.450 --> 0:26:26.929 because it's a theme that's repeated over and over again 0:26:26.930 --> 0:26:30.369 for God's kids then and today. So it's really a 0:26:30.369 --> 0:26:35.090 timeless book. And the prophet Joel says these words, now 0:26:35.090 --> 0:26:36.649 you got to get the whole thing and the payoffs 0:26:36.650 --> 0:26:40.050 at the end here. Yet even now, declares the Lord, 0:26:40.050 --> 0:26:45.290 return to me with all your heart, with fasting, with weeping, 0:26:45.450 --> 0:26:49.170 and with mourning, and rend your hearts and not your garments. 0:26:49.170 --> 0:26:51.730 Isn't that a funny statement, guys? Rend your hearts, not 0:26:51.730 --> 0:26:53.729 your garments. In other words, don't let this be a 0:26:53.730 --> 0:26:59.929 surface repentance. Go. Let it go deep. Return to the 0:26:59.930 --> 0:27:03.090 Lord your God, for he is gracious and merciful, slow 0:27:03.090 --> 0:27:06.610 to anger, and abounding in steadfast love. And he relents 0:27:06.650 --> 0:27:10.230 over disaster. And we love that, don't we? And that's 0:27:10.230 --> 0:27:14.870 the payoff. I love that that Hebrew word there for 0:27:14.869 --> 0:27:18.790 steadfast love is one Hebrew word, hesed. And it's a 0:27:18.790 --> 0:27:21.510 covenantal love. It means that we're coming under the umbrella. 0:27:21.510 --> 0:27:23.710 Remember that insurance company? I forget the name of it. 0:27:23.750 --> 0:27:25.990 You come under the umbrella. I forget what it is. 0:27:26.230 --> 0:27:29.110 But every time I saw that way back in the day, 0:27:29.109 --> 0:27:31.869 I thought, oh, these guys don't know anything about him. 0:27:31.990 --> 0:27:35.470 Umbrella insurance policies. The hesed love of God's got them 0:27:35.470 --> 0:27:36.950 all beat, baby. 0:27:36.990 --> 0:27:37.510 Amen. 0:27:37.710 --> 0:27:41.750 They got them all beat. So here's what's going on. 0:27:41.750 --> 0:27:45.630 The nation of Israel had walked away from God. So 0:27:45.630 --> 0:27:47.869 he says, yet even now, declares the Lord, return to 0:27:47.869 --> 0:27:51.070 me with all your heart. Why? Because the locusts had 0:27:51.070 --> 0:27:56.910 eaten their stuff. So sometimes we've got stuff going on 0:27:56.910 --> 0:28:01.510 in our life that locusts have eaten, that are totally 0:28:01.510 --> 0:28:05.270 detached from us. I'm reminded of of why I love 0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:09.840 studying history and getting just snippets, and the Great Depression 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:15.359 came so quickly that there were tycoons on ships in 0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:21.120 the Atlantic when they went from gazillionaires to paupers overnight 0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:24.040 because they couldn't get on land to trade stocks or 0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:28.879 dissolve them fast enough to save anything. That's a shocker, 0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:29.600 isn't it, guys? 0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:30.000 Wow. 0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:35.880 It's a shocker. Was that their doing? No. I mean, 0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.480 you could maybe go ah well they were speculating and 0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:42.440 they were, you know, they, they were reaching for more. Okay. Whatever. 0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:48.080 But the depression hammered everyone in this nation without respect 0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:53.000 to income level. It just hammered everybody. So there's things 0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:57.400 like that sexual assault of a child. Those things. Come on, man. 0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:02.400 Those those things. There's nothing attached to us. But there's 0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:07.090 so much stuff in our workaday world, everyday life. And 0:29:07.090 --> 0:29:10.130 it could be a company that you started that's beginning 0:29:10.130 --> 0:29:12.530 to crumble. And part of it is due to the 0:29:12.530 --> 0:29:15.370 fact that you've been far from God in this process 0:29:15.370 --> 0:29:25.130 of being an entrepreneur. And that's hard to hear. If not, 0:29:25.130 --> 0:29:31.530 for I'm abounding in steadfast love. I'm gracious and merciful, 0:29:31.530 --> 0:29:37.010 says God. Come on home. Return to me. You see, 0:29:37.010 --> 0:29:39.090 yesterday we were looking at the sermon on the Mount 0:29:39.090 --> 0:29:42.570 and that there's reward for fasting. The only question is, 0:29:42.570 --> 0:29:44.210 do you want to be rewarded by man, or do 0:29:44.210 --> 0:29:47.210 you want to be rewarded by God? And here Joel says, 0:29:47.410 --> 0:29:51.650 go into a quiet place. Don't tear the outer garments. 0:29:51.650 --> 0:29:54.050 Don't be surface level. Go right down to the core 0:29:54.250 --> 0:29:57.370 and just repent and go. God hears my heart and 0:29:57.410 --> 0:29:59.530 this and this is what you do. You have humility. 0:30:00.850 --> 0:30:08.180 You have introspection, you have consecration and you have restoration. 0:30:09.460 --> 0:30:09.900 Wow. 0:30:11.380 --> 0:30:15.220 Hallelujah. And I want you to know something I go first. 0:30:17.340 --> 0:30:20.780 Do I always know? Sometimes I'm teaching stuff here. Pouring 0:30:20.780 --> 0:30:22.780 out my heart about stuff. And I don't go first. 0:30:22.780 --> 0:30:25.500 But this morning I went first. And I tried to. 0:30:25.540 --> 0:30:29.460 I'd say if I'm putting percentages to things, I'd say 90% 0:30:29.460 --> 0:30:31.660 of the time I. I try to go first. I 0:30:31.660 --> 0:30:34.060 don't want to dish up stuff here that I'm not practicing. 0:30:34.060 --> 0:30:38.900 That would be there's warnings against those guys too. We 0:30:38.940 --> 0:30:41.020 got to be careful here, don't we? Alien team. 0:30:41.420 --> 0:30:41.820 Yeah. 0:30:43.580 --> 0:30:46.459 So what I want you to do is have a 0:30:46.460 --> 0:30:52.300 time of humble introspection right now. And look at something 0:30:52.300 --> 0:30:54.620 that locusts have eaten in your life and go, God, 0:30:54.620 --> 0:30:57.020 what percentage of this is mine? And then we're going 0:30:57.060 --> 0:30:59.430 to pray together of where you go from there. They're 0:30:59.750 --> 0:31:00.390 coming up. 0:31:00.790 --> 0:31:03.710 You're listening to Curl and Crew on Moody Radio. 0:31:04.110 --> 0:31:13.510 Humility. Introspection. Consecration always leads to restoration. It's repeated over 0:31:13.510 --> 0:31:17.110 and over in Scripture. I want to stand up and shout. 0:31:17.670 --> 0:31:20.510 It's one of the most amazing things about God's goodness 0:31:20.510 --> 0:31:23.630 to us. And some of you are wondering this morning, 0:31:23.670 --> 0:31:25.990 have I wandered too far from God? I can't return 0:31:25.990 --> 0:31:30.710 to him. The journey's too long. He's right behind you. He's. 0:31:30.830 --> 0:31:35.430 That's the amazing thing about traveling far from God. In 0:31:35.430 --> 0:31:38.110 his mercy, he travels along with us so that when 0:31:38.110 --> 0:31:39.830 we repent, boom! We're there. 0:31:40.030 --> 0:31:40.470 Yeah. 0:31:41.670 --> 0:31:42.750 Isn't that beautiful? 0:31:42.830 --> 0:31:45.390 It's so beautiful. Because you think about, I mean, how 0:31:45.390 --> 0:31:48.430 much you can feel like you've blown it, and then 0:31:48.430 --> 0:31:50.910 you feel like I've blown it again and again and 0:31:50.910 --> 0:31:53.070 again and again, and then you start reading in the 0:31:53.070 --> 0:31:55.870 Bible and you realize, hmm, I'm not the first one 0:31:55.870 --> 0:31:58.610 to have blown it again and again and again. And 0:31:58.810 --> 0:32:03.450 God still had mercy and still had compassion and kindness. 0:32:03.450 --> 0:32:06.410 And he's the same yesterday, today and forever. So that's 0:32:06.410 --> 0:32:07.330 for me to. 0:32:07.450 --> 0:32:07.970 Yeah. 0:32:09.610 --> 0:32:11.810 So in case you just tuned in, let me recap this. 0:32:11.810 --> 0:32:14.330 And then Ali's going to pray for everyone. Big blanket 0:32:14.330 --> 0:32:16.729 prayer right now because some of you need to return 0:32:16.730 --> 0:32:21.290 to God. And the reason you know, it is the 0:32:21.290 --> 0:32:24.370 Holy Spirit that convicts the world of sin, righteousness and 0:32:24.370 --> 0:32:28.130 judgment is revealing to you things that are broken in 0:32:28.130 --> 0:32:31.210 your life, the equivalent of things that locusts have eaten. 0:32:31.250 --> 0:32:34.530 Little aspects, maybe not the whole enchilada, but there's something 0:32:34.530 --> 0:32:37.130 you can own somewhere. And the Holy Spirit is so good. 0:32:37.130 --> 0:32:42.930 I've found him to be inexplicably accurate in my life, 0:32:44.930 --> 0:32:53.690 inexplicably spot on. The only question is, will I linger there? Humility. Introspection. 0:32:56.420 --> 0:33:09.020 Real contrition. Real contrition. And restorations coming your way. Nation 0:33:09.020 --> 0:33:12.740 of Israel. They're like, ah, look at what the locusts 0:33:12.740 --> 0:33:16.460 have eaten. And Joel the prophet prophets were not popular. 0:33:16.780 --> 0:33:21.180 They were not popular. He said, even now, declares the Lord, 0:33:21.180 --> 0:33:24.500 return to me with all your heart, with fasting. Whoa! Why? 0:33:24.700 --> 0:33:29.740 Why fasting? Because withholding a meal today to say. Oh, God. 0:33:32.180 --> 0:33:34.900 I haven't been the husband to my bride like you've 0:33:34.900 --> 0:33:42.260 called me to be. I'm owning it. I haven't been 0:33:42.260 --> 0:33:44.300 the boss. I haven't been the coworker. I've been the parent. 0:33:44.300 --> 0:33:46.260 I haven't been filling the blank. You know the Holy 0:33:46.260 --> 0:33:50.540 Spirit's telling you. And then you begin to change. Why? 0:33:50.580 --> 0:33:54.060 Because the Lord loves you that much. And it is beautiful. 0:34:01.070 --> 0:34:03.350 Return to the Lord today. Ali. Let's pray. 0:34:04.990 --> 0:34:08.870 Lord, thank you that you invite us to return to you. God, 0:34:08.870 --> 0:34:12.350 that we are not too far gone. So for the 0:34:12.350 --> 0:34:15.590 person who's listening today. God, I pray that as you're 0:34:15.590 --> 0:34:18.589 at work by your spirit in their heart, that they 0:34:18.590 --> 0:34:21.870 would sense your nearness and presence in a fresh way. 0:34:22.030 --> 0:34:24.950 Thank you that you are gracious and merciful, slow to anger, 0:34:24.950 --> 0:34:28.710 and abounding in steadfast love. Thank you that we have 0:34:28.950 --> 0:34:32.750 a position in Christ that's secure, that we cannot be 0:34:32.750 --> 0:34:36.310 snatched out of your hand. So today we return to 0:34:36.310 --> 0:34:41.350 you in repentance, rending our heart and not our garment. Lord. 0:34:41.350 --> 0:34:44.590 So from the inside out we come back to you. 0:34:44.870 --> 0:34:48.830 I just pray for a great cleansing today, Lord. Cleanse 0:34:48.830 --> 0:34:51.990 us of our unrighteousness. Cleanse us of our sin. Wash 0:34:52.030 --> 0:34:55.800 us clean, Lord. Restore what the locusts have eaten. God. 0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.719 Allow us to experience the newness of turning back to 0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:04.760 you again. God, we appreciate you. We're so grateful because we. 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:06.520 Where else can we go? 0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:06.880 Where do. 0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:07.120 We go? 0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.240 Where do we go if not to you? So thank 0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:11.640 you today for a fresh start for the person who 0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:14.840 needs it. Lord, beginning in this room. God in every 0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:19.000 area where we need it, we're grateful. So, Lord, we 0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.879 turn back to you today and we thank you in 0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:23.879 Jesus name. Amen. 0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:30.359 Amen. I'm convinced because I've seen it. The moment you 0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:34.600 turn toward God, you come under the umbrella of his love, 0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:43.400 that covenantal love. And please, keep the bigger why in mind. 0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:50.400 You don't repent to pay penance. You repent and return 0:35:50.500 --> 0:35:55.259 to God because he is slow to anger, abounding in 0:35:55.260 --> 0:36:01.420 steadfast love, and he relents over disaster and heartache and pain. 0:36:02.219 --> 0:36:06.580 Return to God today. Return to God today. 0:36:07.100 --> 0:36:10.940 He was running from God, but God's love brought him home. 0:36:11.140 --> 0:36:14.980 Carl is in the crew. It's Carl and crew on 0:36:15.020 --> 0:36:16.060 Moody Radio. 0:36:16.620 --> 0:36:19.700 You know what I think? Have we got Franklin in 0:36:19.700 --> 0:36:20.259 here right now? 0:36:20.300 --> 0:36:21.219 We do, we do. 0:36:21.260 --> 0:36:24.219 Let's get him in. Franklin. Graham. How are you, my friend? 0:36:24.820 --> 0:36:27.500 I'm doing good. I trust you're doing well. 0:36:27.540 --> 0:36:31.299 Yeah, I'm doing really well. So we're. We wanted to 0:36:31.300 --> 0:36:33.140 get you in here. Thank you for taking the time 0:36:33.140 --> 0:36:35.540 to do this. I know you got plenty going on, Franklin, 0:36:35.540 --> 0:36:42.219 but what's going on in Myanmar and all ultimately neighboring, uh, Thailand. 0:36:42.260 --> 0:36:43.620 What's what's going on? 0:36:44.180 --> 0:36:49.350 Well, we're responding to the crisis there in Myanmar. We've got, um. 0:36:50.110 --> 0:36:53.069 Today we're taking a hospital out of Calgary. One of 0:36:53.070 --> 0:36:58.070 our field hospitals, and we're flying it, uh, into, um, 0:36:58.469 --> 0:37:01.430 Rangoon or Yangon, they call it now. And then it'll 0:37:01.469 --> 0:37:04.630 be trucked up to the Mandalay area. And so it's 0:37:04.670 --> 0:37:07.629 a it's a 60 bed, uh, tier three hospital. Tier 0:37:07.670 --> 0:37:12.470 three means we got two operating rooms, uh, emergency room, uh, 0:37:12.670 --> 0:37:16.750 x ray, uh, laboratory, uh, everything that you need. And 0:37:16.750 --> 0:37:18.670 all of this is very modern equipment. It's the same 0:37:18.670 --> 0:37:23.390 equipment that the US military uses in their field hospitals. So, uh, 0:37:23.390 --> 0:37:26.670 that we've got that going, we'll have, uh, about 60 0:37:26.670 --> 0:37:29.870 people right now. Uh, that will be over there. Then 0:37:29.870 --> 0:37:33.190 we'll have, um, uh, probably build it up to a 0:37:33.190 --> 0:37:36.790 little over 100, maybe 120 people. And then you have 0:37:36.790 --> 0:37:39.390 to rotate your doctors and nurses out about every 4 0:37:39.390 --> 0:37:43.589 to 6 weeks. Uh, so, uh, these are doctors and 0:37:43.590 --> 0:37:47.080 nurses that have full time jobs, uh, other places, but 0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:50.040 they take a they, they take a break to work 0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:53.240 for us. But we've got to turn that that team 0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:56.440 over and keep it, keep the hospital up and running. 0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.239 But uh, and of course, with that Carl, you got 0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:03.080 all the supplies that the hospital needs. Uh, you just 0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.840 don't go run out and buy locally. You have to 0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:08.319 take it with you. And not only that, but we 0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:12.160 have to take our own generators, water purification system. Um, 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:17.080 because the water systems there are compromised. Uh, your your generators. 0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:22.960 It's a different, uh, power grid. So we're on 110, uh, 0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:25.239 there I think is on 220. So we have to 0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:28.400 take we have to take generators to generate our own electricity. 0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:32.400 So it's it's a it's a complicated system, but it's, uh, 0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:34.640 but it works. And we've, we've used we've got one 0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:38.680 right now in Sudan, a maternity hospital. And we've set 0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:40.600 these up, uh, here in the United States, but around 0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:43.759 the world. And we keep about five hospitals in stock 0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:46.090 so that whenever there's a crisis, we're ready to go. 0:38:46.130 --> 0:38:46.770 Amazing. 0:38:46.969 --> 0:38:49.330 Franklin Graham. Our guest right now, he's the president and 0:38:49.330 --> 0:38:52.530 CEO of Samaritan's Purse, which is an international Christian relief 0:38:52.530 --> 0:38:57.290 and evangelism organization. That this disaster is the worst to 0:38:57.330 --> 0:39:01.009 hit the region in over a century. And as you 0:39:01.010 --> 0:39:05.610 have responded and been over overseeing the response of Samaritan's 0:39:05.610 --> 0:39:08.890 Purse over so many years, what what do you see 0:39:08.930 --> 0:39:13.209 when you when you arrive to such devastation? And there's 0:39:13.210 --> 0:39:16.330 people in need and there's crisis and you're you're providing 0:39:16.330 --> 0:39:18.770 practical care, but in the name of Jesus Christ, what 0:39:18.770 --> 0:39:21.170 does this look like on the ground in these first 0:39:21.170 --> 0:39:23.410 days and weeks and months? 0:39:23.770 --> 0:39:26.610 Well, it's very chaotic because the infrastructure of the country 0:39:26.610 --> 0:39:32.650 is is seriously compromised. Roads, trains, electrical grid, all of 0:39:32.650 --> 0:39:36.650 this is down. Uh, whole sections of cities are flat. Uh, 0:39:36.770 --> 0:39:39.650 when the earthquake first happened up in Mandalay, fires broke 0:39:39.650 --> 0:39:43.750 out and and just leveled level. Huge portions of the 0:39:43.750 --> 0:39:49.430 city by fire. So this is a this is a catastrophe. Uh, 0:39:49.430 --> 0:39:52.870 they're saying over 2000 some people have have died, but 0:39:52.910 --> 0:39:55.230 it's going to be we're afraid it's going to be 0:39:55.230 --> 0:39:59.030 in the many thousands. Uh, when all the numbers come in, 0:39:59.150 --> 0:40:02.390 they just don't have any. The, uh, we talked to 0:40:02.430 --> 0:40:06.589 local people today. Uh, and these are church partners that 0:40:06.590 --> 0:40:09.029 we have with Operation Christmas Child and that we've been 0:40:09.030 --> 0:40:12.590 working with for years in the country. And they they said, 0:40:12.590 --> 0:40:15.509 we don't know what to do, not only for our 0:40:15.510 --> 0:40:17.989 own people. We have no resources to help them, but 0:40:17.989 --> 0:40:20.710 we don't even know what to do for our own families. Uh, 0:40:20.710 --> 0:40:27.190 we need drinking water. We need mosquito nets. Uh, we need, uh, shelter. Uh, 0:40:28.150 --> 0:40:30.910 and they don't have any of that. And so, uh, 0:40:30.910 --> 0:40:33.350 that's some, some things that we'll be getting in in 0:40:33.350 --> 0:40:37.710 the next few weeks is, you know, uh, tarps. Uh, 0:40:37.870 --> 0:40:40.509 for people where, you know, they can cut a piece 0:40:40.510 --> 0:40:43.719 of plastic and at least make a makeshift shelter to 0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:46.960 keep out of the rain and. Mosquito nets. This is 0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:50.120 this is a big thing. So we're going to be busy. 0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:52.440 But the most important thing is we do it in 0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:56.680 the name of Jesus Christ. Uh, this this, uh, government has, uh, 0:40:56.680 --> 0:41:01.000 has had difficulty with this church relations. And we hope 0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.359 that after all of this, it will improve the church 0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:06.640 relations with the government. And so just pray that we 0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:10.200 can be the hands and feet of the Lord Jesus Christ. Uh, 0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:12.680 in these next few months as we try to minister 0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:13.640 in his name. 0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:18.280 What keeps you going, Franklin? What what keeps this passion burning? 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:21.839 Is it lives change, lives touched. What? What is it? 0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:24.200 Well, we're commanded to go into the world to make 0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:29.640 disciples of all on all, all nations. And listen, the those. 0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:31.279 Those are the orders from the King of kings and 0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:34.680 the Lord of lords. The those that those orders have 0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:38.640 not been rescinded. And so we're still under that mandate. 0:41:38.969 --> 0:41:41.170 And I just think when there's a crisis like this, 0:41:41.170 --> 0:41:43.089 this is a great opportunity to go in and help 0:41:43.090 --> 0:41:45.250 people and do it in Jesus name and make disciples 0:41:45.250 --> 0:41:45.970 as we go. 0:41:46.170 --> 0:41:48.930 Amen. Uh, you're listening to this right now. Ali, I'm 0:41:48.930 --> 0:41:50.169 going to ask you to pray here in a moment, 0:41:50.170 --> 0:41:52.890 but text the word Pierce. We've got some Franklin, as 0:41:52.890 --> 0:41:55.250 you know. And that's why I'm so grateful that you 0:41:55.290 --> 0:41:57.330 come on here. But we got some of the most 0:41:57.330 --> 0:42:00.969 generous people now across the nation. Carlos Cruz, Carl and 0:42:00.969 --> 0:42:03.690 crew has heard across the nation. Uh, I want you 0:42:03.690 --> 0:42:06.570 boom crew right now. If God is prompting your heart, 0:42:07.330 --> 0:42:10.130 let's throw some shekels to this ministry right now. Text 0:42:10.130 --> 0:42:15.770 the word purse. Just the word purse to 800 555, 78, 98. 0:42:15.810 --> 0:42:20.170 There's a lot of entities that are in there, but 0:42:20.170 --> 0:42:26.089 none or few like Samaritan's Purse that do it so 0:42:26.090 --> 0:42:29.210 strongly in the name of Jesus. Text purse to 800 0:42:29.330 --> 0:42:33.129 555 7898. We're going to keep you here, Franklin. Ali, 0:42:33.130 --> 0:42:33.850 would you pray? 0:42:33.890 --> 0:42:37.900 Yeah. Lord, we thank you that you are sovereign. over 0:42:38.060 --> 0:42:41.500 all things, Lord. You are sovereign over storms, over earthquakes, 0:42:41.500 --> 0:42:45.380 over disaster. God. And we don't have answers. We we 0:42:45.420 --> 0:42:49.220 don't fully understand why things happen, but God, we trust 0:42:49.219 --> 0:42:52.219 in your goodness and your sovereignty. So we pray that 0:42:52.219 --> 0:42:55.220 you would comfort the afflicted God, that those who don't 0:42:55.219 --> 0:42:59.060 know you would turn to you as their source of hope, 0:42:59.060 --> 0:43:02.100 as their source of comfort, as the anchor for their 0:43:02.100 --> 0:43:05.259 souls in the days and weeks, and Lord, that eternity 0:43:05.460 --> 0:43:08.419 would be changed for so many people, God, as they 0:43:08.420 --> 0:43:11.500 turn to you. Lord, we pray for Samaritan's Purse, for 0:43:11.540 --> 0:43:14.259 the the doctors and the volunteers and the people who 0:43:14.260 --> 0:43:17.460 will be on the ground. Lord, we pray for their protection, 0:43:17.460 --> 0:43:20.259 for their safety. Lord Jesus, for the as they as 0:43:20.260 --> 0:43:23.219 they work and as they minister God, that there would 0:43:23.219 --> 0:43:27.180 be stories of transformation. God of healing, Lord of healing 0:43:27.219 --> 0:43:31.380 of bodies, healing of families, Lord, and ultimately healing of souls. God, 0:43:31.620 --> 0:43:34.219 we just ask that you would use this as you 0:43:34.219 --> 0:43:37.640 always do. God, you can take the worst thing, God, 0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:40.680 and you can use it and be glorified through it. Lord, 0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:43.120 we don't know how, but we trust you. So we 0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:46.880 just pray, Lord, over this entire region that your name 0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:49.600 would be lifted high, God, that your presence would be 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.640 felt in tangible ways. Lord, that as they are looking 0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:56.439 for survivors, Lord, that those who are still clinging to hope, God, 0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:58.359 that they would cry out to you and you would 0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:02.600 be their rescuer. Lord, we pray for miracles out of this. So, God, 0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:06.160 we just ask for your sovereignty, for your mercy, and 0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:10.239 for your deliverance. In the mighty name of Jesus. Amen. 0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:11.400 Amen. And let it be. 0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:12.839 Amen. Thank you. 0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:16.040 Guys. Franklin. Franklin. Graham, thank you for being with us. 0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:20.279 Text the word Pierce to 800 555 7898. Just the 0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:22.359 word Pierce, and you'll get a link there. A lot 0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:24.239 of you wonder, and I get this question a lot. 0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:27.279 How do we care for needs in this area, that 0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:30.960 area when it comes to these kind of responses? Samaritan's 0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:32.520 purse is top of the list. 0:44:33.810 --> 0:44:34.810 Top of the list. 0:44:35.930 --> 0:44:41.330 Text purse to 800 555 7898. Godspeed, Franklin, we love you. Great. 0:44:41.489 --> 0:44:42.930 Thank you guys. God bless you. 0:44:42.969 --> 0:44:47.530 Yeah. God bless you, brother. Oof! That hits hard, huh? 0:44:47.570 --> 0:44:48.090 Yeah. 0:44:49.330 --> 0:44:53.610 Yeah. And him, I mean, recovery efforts. There are people 0:44:53.610 --> 0:44:56.450 flying in from all around the globe on recovery efforts, 0:44:56.450 --> 0:44:58.810 because in many of these countries, they don't have the 0:44:58.810 --> 0:45:02.890 kind of equipment needed to even sense, you know, they're 0:45:02.930 --> 0:45:06.730 out of that crazy. Sadly, they're out of that recovery zone. 0:45:06.770 --> 0:45:10.170 It's kind of that life zone where people can sustain 0:45:10.170 --> 0:45:13.650 life buried. So now it's moving into more of a 0:45:13.650 --> 0:45:19.569 recovery effort rather than rescue effort. But the amount of 0:45:19.570 --> 0:45:23.450 lives that are buried under rubble right now, it's horrific. 0:45:23.450 --> 0:45:27.410 And yet even after that, what you're doing now is 0:45:27.410 --> 0:45:31.210 ministering to family and friends and loved ones. And what 0:45:31.250 --> 0:45:32.210 a powerful ministry.