1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,960 S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond its cast 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,680 S1: and crew. Come as you are an experienced guide. Overcome 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,440 S1: what seems impossible and live. As you never imagined. Start 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,880 S1: your morning with a laugh. 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,120 S2: Practical from the Bible. Tips and tricks to kill. Not tricks, 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,600 S2: but tips and tricks. 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,400 S3: Tips and tricks to kill. Tips and tricks. 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,400 S1: Delivering the truth daily. 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,280 S4: All of my attempts to, you know, prop myself up 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,760 S4: with achievement in good works. Well, God wasn't impressed by that. 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,239 S4: Even if other people were. 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,080 S2: The gospel changes everything. 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,519 S5: Freedom in Christ. Man, it's like that backpack of cement 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,440 S5: just falling to the ground. 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,920 S1: Now, from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:51,559 S1: and crew. 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,480 S6: I got caught, I got caught. 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,840 S2: Did you get caught with. 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,680 S6: You're gonna have to take it, young Thunder. I'm getting 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,050 S6: some early morning protein. 21 00:01:00,090 --> 00:01:04,930 S2: Uh oh. Well, good morning everybody. 22 00:01:04,970 --> 00:01:05,170 S3: Yeah. 23 00:01:05,209 --> 00:01:06,010 S6: Take it. Go, man. 24 00:01:06,050 --> 00:01:06,369 S3: Go. 25 00:01:07,170 --> 00:01:09,930 S2: It's. You're listening to Carl and crew. My name is 26 00:01:09,930 --> 00:01:12,289 S2: not Carl. I'm young Thunder, but Carl's just getting a 27 00:01:12,290 --> 00:01:14,770 S2: little bit of his breakfast in right now, and that's okay. 28 00:01:14,850 --> 00:01:15,170 S6: And it's. 29 00:01:15,170 --> 00:01:17,289 S2: Good. And it's good. What are you eating, Carl? 30 00:01:17,330 --> 00:01:18,010 S6: Beef sticks. 31 00:01:18,050 --> 00:01:19,410 S2: Beef sticks. Sticks. 32 00:01:19,450 --> 00:01:21,170 S6: Beef sticks from Costco. 33 00:01:21,450 --> 00:01:21,729 S2: Is that. 34 00:01:21,730 --> 00:01:25,569 S6: Good? Oh. They're tremendous. It's tremendous. I don't have time 35 00:01:25,569 --> 00:01:27,210 S6: to cook an egg. Or else I would have had that. 36 00:01:27,250 --> 00:01:29,169 S2: Well that's true. You're not getting up early and cooking 37 00:01:29,170 --> 00:01:30,690 S2: an egg and getting on your way. No, you gotta 38 00:01:30,730 --> 00:01:33,970 S2: you gotta grab something quick and and most of the time, packaged. 39 00:01:33,970 --> 00:01:36,010 S2: I do the same thing. I can't, can't get all 40 00:01:36,010 --> 00:01:37,850 S2: that stuff. Just sitting home and cooking around the oven 41 00:01:37,850 --> 00:01:40,090 S2: in the stove. Not gonna happen. But you're listening to 42 00:01:40,130 --> 00:01:43,170 S2: Carl and crew. I'm young Thunder, and this week we're 43 00:01:43,170 --> 00:01:45,890 S2: finishing up right now. Ask the experts week. This has 44 00:01:45,890 --> 00:01:47,330 S2: been an incredible week, hasn't it? 45 00:01:47,370 --> 00:01:49,570 S6: Yeah it has. And if you heard some mumbling going 46 00:01:49,570 --> 00:01:51,730 S6: on in the background that was super Di teeing up 47 00:01:51,730 --> 00:01:57,530 S6: our next guest little production. So Young Thunder's Young Thunder's 48 00:01:57,530 --> 00:02:02,930 S6: live on air and everything going. Dum dum dum dum 49 00:02:02,970 --> 00:02:06,450 S6: dum dum. Excuse me. Oh, man. Well, we're a train 50 00:02:06,450 --> 00:02:07,970 S6: wreck between the three of us. 51 00:02:08,010 --> 00:02:09,330 S2: Wait wait wait. No no no no. I was talking 52 00:02:09,330 --> 00:02:11,370 S2: to her. I was great, I wasn't eating breakfast, nor 53 00:02:11,370 --> 00:02:13,090 S2: was I talking to a guest in the background, so 54 00:02:13,090 --> 00:02:13,490 S2: I'm good. 55 00:02:13,730 --> 00:02:14,090 S7: Carl. 56 00:02:14,130 --> 00:02:16,329 S6: Oh, yeah. You're right. Young Thunder was good. 57 00:02:16,370 --> 00:02:16,970 S7: Whatever. 58 00:02:17,010 --> 00:02:18,010 S6: Super knives over there. 59 00:02:18,610 --> 00:02:19,250 S7: Little brother. 60 00:02:20,210 --> 00:02:22,090 S3: It sounded like a Charlie Brown adult. 61 00:02:22,210 --> 00:02:25,490 S6: And I'm trying to swallow beef sausage here, and I 62 00:02:25,530 --> 00:02:27,730 S6: am having a hard time. You notice the more you 63 00:02:27,770 --> 00:02:30,169 S6: try to force something down, the harder it goes. 64 00:02:30,210 --> 00:02:31,250 S2: Yes, absolutely. 65 00:02:31,490 --> 00:02:32,010 S3: It's crazy. 66 00:02:32,050 --> 00:02:35,970 S2: I've been caught with that, like, uh, on on newscasts 67 00:02:35,970 --> 00:02:39,090 S2: that we've done here. Little inside radio is, you know, 68 00:02:39,130 --> 00:02:42,250 S2: I've tried to. I'm. I'm miss gauging how long I 69 00:02:42,250 --> 00:02:44,530 S2: have left to chew this food before the song's over 70 00:02:44,530 --> 00:02:48,370 S2: and before a newscast starts, and, uh, and sometimes I'm like, 71 00:02:48,490 --> 00:02:50,889 S2: there's too much in my mouth to do any reading, 72 00:02:50,889 --> 00:02:53,570 S2: so I have to just, you know, go AWOL on 73 00:02:53,570 --> 00:02:57,299 S2: the bite and spit it out. And I lost that, 74 00:02:57,300 --> 00:02:58,940 S2: but I'll have to start over later. 75 00:02:59,220 --> 00:03:02,020 S7: And I'm like, okay, I guess it's time for the weather. Yeah. 76 00:03:03,260 --> 00:03:04,500 S6: You guys are cracking me up. 77 00:03:04,540 --> 00:03:05,500 S3: Oh, man. We came. 78 00:03:05,620 --> 00:03:07,780 S6: We came in wired for sound. You got something you 79 00:03:07,780 --> 00:03:10,460 S6: want to share? You're flapping papers around in there. 80 00:03:12,540 --> 00:03:12,780 S3: This is. 81 00:03:12,780 --> 00:03:13,100 S2: A good. 82 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:13,579 S3: Morning. 83 00:03:13,620 --> 00:03:15,540 S7: Just ready for our guests, that's all. 84 00:03:15,540 --> 00:03:15,940 S3: Wow. 85 00:03:16,060 --> 00:03:18,859 S6: Okay, well, let me help you here. We'll play along. 86 00:03:19,060 --> 00:03:19,460 S7: No. 87 00:03:20,340 --> 00:03:23,460 S6: There we go. Now, everybody's got a little fun in 88 00:03:23,460 --> 00:03:24,060 S6: the action here. 89 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:24,859 S3: Starting crazy. 90 00:03:24,900 --> 00:03:28,860 S6: Speaking of fun, she's coming up straight ahead. She's a 91 00:03:28,860 --> 00:03:31,180 S6: crazy lady. That's why I like her. Crazy. In a 92 00:03:31,180 --> 00:03:34,100 S6: good way. Doctor Elizabeth Smith, we're going to be talking 93 00:03:34,139 --> 00:03:36,980 S6: a ton of cool stuff, but we're going to stay 94 00:03:36,980 --> 00:03:41,620 S6: in Elizabeth's wheelhouse, which is really cultivating this passion for 95 00:03:41,620 --> 00:03:47,140 S6: Christ through education and sanctification and growing up into him. 96 00:03:47,620 --> 00:03:50,260 S6: She's a children's ministry expert as well. Do you guys 97 00:03:50,260 --> 00:03:50,740 S6: know that? 98 00:03:50,780 --> 00:03:51,820 S3: I did know that I did. 99 00:03:51,860 --> 00:03:54,300 S6: So let's start with children's ministries, because we got a 100 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:56,940 S6: lot of people that love that area of the world. 101 00:03:56,980 --> 00:03:59,220 S6: Hang on, Elizabeth Smith, straight ahead. 102 00:04:00,340 --> 00:04:03,420 S1: Get your info from a source you can trust. It's 103 00:04:03,460 --> 00:04:05,980 S1: Ask the Experts week with Carl and crew. 104 00:04:06,660 --> 00:04:09,860 S6: Well, here we are. It's Ask the Experts and we're 105 00:04:09,860 --> 00:04:13,460 S6: on a Freedom Friday. It's funny because if I think freedom, 106 00:04:13,700 --> 00:04:17,100 S6: I think when I go to church, I find an 107 00:04:17,100 --> 00:04:20,659 S6: area to serve that has nothing to do with children's ministry. 108 00:04:20,820 --> 00:04:23,700 S6: Now I love children. No, no, but I'm being very 109 00:04:23,700 --> 00:04:24,739 S6: serious for a moment. 110 00:04:24,779 --> 00:04:27,580 S2: It doesn't meet your your personality type or no. 111 00:04:27,620 --> 00:04:31,100 S6: I actually love it, but I love doing the teaching. 112 00:04:31,140 --> 00:04:31,659 S2: Okay. 113 00:04:31,700 --> 00:04:33,979 S6: I love going in. When I was asked as a 114 00:04:33,980 --> 00:04:36,140 S6: lead pastor, come on in and I'd have to come 115 00:04:36,140 --> 00:04:38,260 S6: in and talk to, like, all sixth graders and there's 116 00:04:38,260 --> 00:04:40,500 S6: like 80 of them in there. Come on, pastor. Could 117 00:04:40,500 --> 00:04:42,420 S6: you come on in before you get up and preach? 118 00:04:42,420 --> 00:04:44,700 S6: And that's when we would do it. Could you come 119 00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:46,940 S6: in and encourage him with a little bit of the word? 120 00:04:46,940 --> 00:04:49,660 S6: I would love that because I would try. My goal 121 00:04:49,660 --> 00:04:52,580 S6: was to get the kids so zoomed up that when 122 00:04:52,580 --> 00:04:55,029 S6: I left, they would never want me back again. 123 00:04:56,750 --> 00:04:59,909 S2: You were basically like a like a spiritual grandfather. 124 00:04:59,950 --> 00:05:00,669 S3: In that moment. 125 00:05:00,710 --> 00:05:01,310 S6: That's exactly. 126 00:05:01,310 --> 00:05:01,710 S3: Right. 127 00:05:02,029 --> 00:05:06,510 S6: Uh, doctor Elizabeth Smith. Um, how about that? That's that's 128 00:05:06,710 --> 00:05:09,270 S6: that's kind of a crazy thing for a pastor to say, 129 00:05:09,270 --> 00:05:10,510 S6: isn't it, Elizabeth? 130 00:05:10,870 --> 00:05:14,990 S8: Well, okay. Uh, crazy. Uh, scary. How many children were 131 00:05:14,990 --> 00:05:18,070 S8: terrified after you came in? And then where did they 132 00:05:18,070 --> 00:05:21,070 S8: have to, like, do some regulation with the children? I 133 00:05:21,430 --> 00:05:22,750 S8: talk them off the ledge or something. 134 00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:25,510 S6: I know I had fun with them. I think I 135 00:05:25,510 --> 00:05:27,670 S6: learned it from my dad, who was a school principal, 136 00:05:27,670 --> 00:05:30,469 S6: and he would take whole assemblies of kids into a gym. 137 00:05:30,470 --> 00:05:35,310 S6: I actually love planetary communication to large groups of kids 138 00:05:35,310 --> 00:05:40,469 S6: because if you bring energy in enough interesting stuff, they 139 00:05:40,470 --> 00:05:42,310 S6: really will eat out of the palm of your hand, 140 00:05:42,310 --> 00:05:43,310 S6: won't they? Elizabeth? 141 00:05:43,630 --> 00:05:46,790 S8: 100%. And that's what I love, what you just said. 142 00:05:46,790 --> 00:05:49,909 S8: It is about being interesting so that we're encouraging the 143 00:05:49,910 --> 00:05:53,990 S8: child's curiosity. It isn't just about fun. I am a 100% 144 00:05:53,990 --> 00:05:57,070 S8: sure these kids had fun with you. Absolutely. But you 145 00:05:57,070 --> 00:06:00,429 S8: did not entertain them. What you did is you showed 146 00:06:00,430 --> 00:06:03,589 S8: them a God who is so much more interesting and 147 00:06:03,589 --> 00:06:08,590 S8: amazing and fascinating than any entertainment this world could ever offer. 148 00:06:08,630 --> 00:06:10,710 S8: And when you bring God into the center and grab 149 00:06:10,710 --> 00:06:13,470 S8: their attention for that, you're going to keep their attention 150 00:06:13,470 --> 00:06:15,350 S8: and they're going to get excited and feed off of 151 00:06:15,350 --> 00:06:18,510 S8: your excitement, which shouldn't we be excited about? God. 152 00:06:18,990 --> 00:06:23,790 S6: Amen. Doctor Elizabeth Smith with us right now. Oh my goodness. 153 00:06:23,790 --> 00:06:26,830 S6: We're going to get into at least three areas of 154 00:06:26,830 --> 00:06:29,550 S6: her expertise in this hour. And we are going to 155 00:06:29,550 --> 00:06:32,510 S6: have some fun. So I want to talk with you 156 00:06:32,510 --> 00:06:35,990 S6: about children's ministry. What has changed? We got a lot 157 00:06:36,029 --> 00:06:40,070 S6: of people listening right now who either have kids, grandkids 158 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:43,270 S6: or minister to kids in the context of the church. 159 00:06:43,310 --> 00:06:45,390 S6: What's changed? What do we need to know? 160 00:06:46,029 --> 00:06:50,630 S8: I think there's been a huge push toward intergenerational ministry, 161 00:06:50,670 --> 00:06:54,720 S8: meaning while you may have age segregated ministry to children 162 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,839 S8: in parts of your service or your week or the mornings, 163 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,320 S8: you bring generations together more often than not so that 164 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,080 S8: children are a part of the community. They're participating within 165 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,400 S8: the community. And as Psalm 145 four says, one generation 166 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,160 S8: shall commend God's works to another and shall declare his 167 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,640 S8: mighty acts. So children are hearing the gospel and biblical 168 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,080 S8: truth from many generations, not just in their own little 169 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,960 S8: peer group from one person, but they're seeing the body 170 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,880 S8: of Christ in action. And having them be a part 171 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,520 S8: of that, I think, has made a huge difference in 172 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,240 S8: how they're understanding Christ. 173 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,680 S6: Is that beginning to gain traction? I remember we talked 174 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,080 S6: about this with you a few weeks ago. One of 175 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,320 S6: the challenges is the way we've kind of constructed our churches, 176 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,720 S6: and the way we've kind of done it in the 177 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,920 S6: past is kids are over here. Um, what about this 178 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,280 S6: modified idea going back to what I had as a 179 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,000 S6: kid growing up where everybody's worshiping together. And then at 180 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,800 S6: a certain time, all the kids boogie out of there. 181 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,880 S6: Is that even possible in a big church? 182 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,640 S8: 100%. Oh, yeah. And a lot of times they call 183 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,280 S8: it children's church. So everybody's together and the kids are singing. 184 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,200 S8: They see the offering being taken. Hopefully they're in there 185 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,320 S8: during baptisms or when testimonies are given. Those kind of 186 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,160 S8: moments are meant for the Multi-generations now, when the Word 187 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,880 S8: of God is being taught from the pulpit as the 188 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,920 S8: teaching pastor is speaking to adults, much of it will 189 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,360 S8: go over the heads of the children. So I would 190 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,640 S8: recommend and totally support having the children go out to 191 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,120 S8: what you consider age segregated groups. Why? So that they 192 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,880 S8: are hearing the Word of God at an age appropriate level? Right. 193 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,280 S8: So you can even take the same message or the 194 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,120 S8: passage that the pastor is teaching in the big church, 195 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,160 S8: and then you can teach that. But how a four 196 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,280 S8: year old understands that versus an eight year old versus 197 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,720 S8: even a 12 year old is a very different on 198 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,080 S8: what do they understand? And then how can they apply 199 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,850 S8: that to their life? Because we want them to know 200 00:08:49,850 --> 00:08:52,970 S8: that the Word of God is understandable. But as much 201 00:08:52,970 --> 00:08:56,130 S8: as possible. So you do the teaching, perhaps in those groups, 202 00:08:56,130 --> 00:08:58,490 S8: but they come back and they're a part of the 203 00:08:58,490 --> 00:09:01,650 S8: body of Christ. So they are viewing it, they're participating, 204 00:09:01,650 --> 00:09:04,410 S8: they're feeling the work of the spirit, and they're watching 205 00:09:04,570 --> 00:09:06,929 S8: how the Spirit of God is working through the community. 206 00:09:06,970 --> 00:09:08,970 S6: Love it. Okay. I'm going to tap into a few 207 00:09:08,970 --> 00:09:12,410 S6: lightning round questions here. Number one, I was a big 208 00:09:12,730 --> 00:09:16,329 S6: one on. I don't want high schoolers bifurcated out. We 209 00:09:16,370 --> 00:09:19,010 S6: we contextualize the gospel enough, keep them in the big 210 00:09:19,010 --> 00:09:21,370 S6: auditorium with everyone else. So we had high schoolers in 211 00:09:21,410 --> 00:09:23,650 S6: there and they had midweek stuff and all kind of 212 00:09:23,650 --> 00:09:26,530 S6: mission trips and everything. And we, you know, as we've 213 00:09:26,530 --> 00:09:28,850 S6: moved to a new campus here in Chicago, we're going 214 00:09:28,890 --> 00:09:32,290 S6: that way as well. And where is the break off 215 00:09:32,290 --> 00:09:34,050 S6: these days? Where is that. 216 00:09:34,370 --> 00:09:36,650 S8: Boy? That's going to be different depending upon your congregation 217 00:09:36,650 --> 00:09:38,690 S8: and what you have room for. But honestly, I think 218 00:09:38,730 --> 00:09:41,170 S8: even at third or fourth grade, you could keep kids 219 00:09:41,170 --> 00:09:45,650 S8: within the larger church because they do have the capacity 220 00:09:45,650 --> 00:09:49,210 S8: to understand a lot of things Cognitively brain wise by 221 00:09:49,210 --> 00:09:51,130 S8: the time they're getting to later elementary. You can keep 222 00:09:51,130 --> 00:09:54,570 S8: your later elementary, middle school and high school absolutely within 223 00:09:54,570 --> 00:09:57,970 S8: the larger church. What's going to be challenging is that 224 00:09:57,970 --> 00:10:01,490 S8: because they are having to sit there and have sustained 225 00:10:01,530 --> 00:10:05,130 S8: non distracted attention to listen to the pastor. Then the 226 00:10:05,130 --> 00:10:08,330 S8: other adults around them, including their family, is going to 227 00:10:08,330 --> 00:10:11,410 S8: have to challenge them to focus. And we don't live 228 00:10:11,410 --> 00:10:13,890 S8: in a culture that really celebrates focus. 229 00:10:13,929 --> 00:10:14,730 S6: Boy, you weren't kidding. 230 00:10:15,050 --> 00:10:17,090 S8: No I know. So you have to have those conversations 231 00:10:17,090 --> 00:10:20,929 S8: of when those distracting thoughts come in your head or 232 00:10:21,330 --> 00:10:26,130 S8: when you're feeling bored. Because how we receive information is 233 00:10:26,130 --> 00:10:27,930 S8: not the same as when you're playing a video game. 234 00:10:27,929 --> 00:10:30,170 S8: Your brain isn't doing the same thing. What does it 235 00:10:30,170 --> 00:10:32,770 S8: mean to feel bored? So instead of lecturing them on 236 00:10:32,770 --> 00:10:36,209 S8: being bored, talk to them about it and say focused 237 00:10:36,210 --> 00:10:39,250 S8: attention takes work and discipline. But when we're in the 238 00:10:39,250 --> 00:10:41,650 S8: house of God, we want to be focused with that 239 00:10:41,650 --> 00:10:44,970 S8: sustained discipline. So we are learning. Let's figure this out 240 00:10:44,970 --> 00:10:47,579 S8: together and have those crucial conversations. 241 00:10:47,900 --> 00:10:50,740 S6: She's an expert on, on on a lot of things, 242 00:10:50,740 --> 00:10:52,740 S6: but a few things in particular. So I want to 243 00:10:52,740 --> 00:10:56,940 S6: shift gears coming up here. Elizabeth. You are a certified 244 00:10:56,940 --> 00:10:59,579 S6: licensed counselor. And what I want to tackle is what 245 00:10:59,580 --> 00:11:02,339 S6: are the big issues that you are seeing today that 246 00:11:02,340 --> 00:11:05,740 S6: are different than 20 years ago? More with our expert 247 00:11:05,740 --> 00:11:07,900 S6: doctor Elizabeth Smith. Coming up. 248 00:11:09,340 --> 00:11:13,580 S1: You've got questions. They've got answers. It's Ask the Experts 249 00:11:13,580 --> 00:11:15,060 S1: week with Carl and crew. 250 00:11:15,620 --> 00:11:20,020 S6: It is Ask the Experts week. And on this Freedom Friday, 251 00:11:20,220 --> 00:11:23,460 S6: no one better than to get in an expert counselor. 252 00:11:23,460 --> 00:11:26,500 S6: Someone who's got a biblical worldview. By the way, quick 253 00:11:26,500 --> 00:11:29,100 S6: note on that expert, Elizabeth Smith. Good to have you 254 00:11:29,100 --> 00:11:33,620 S6: with us. What about biblical counseling versus what is known 255 00:11:33,620 --> 00:11:37,460 S6: as kind of a absent of truth therapeutic model? Man, 256 00:11:37,460 --> 00:11:40,100 S6: I don't know how people get help without having the 257 00:11:40,100 --> 00:11:42,980 S6: Bible referred to. What's your conviction on this, Elizabeth? 258 00:11:43,500 --> 00:11:46,939 S8: Every Christian, whether they call themselves a biblical counselor or not, 259 00:11:46,940 --> 00:11:50,980 S8: should have a Scripture informed biblical worldview. When you have 260 00:11:50,980 --> 00:11:52,620 S8: clients coming to talk to you. So I work in 261 00:11:52,620 --> 00:11:55,580 S8: the city of Chicago. I work in a secular place, 262 00:11:55,580 --> 00:11:58,900 S8: so I cannot lead with the Bible says, because I've 263 00:11:58,900 --> 00:12:02,900 S8: worked with every sort of cultural dynamic you can imagine 264 00:12:02,900 --> 00:12:06,300 S8: and belief system. But I am a Christian. If they ask, 265 00:12:06,300 --> 00:12:09,699 S8: I will tell them I'm a Christian. And any advice? 266 00:12:09,700 --> 00:12:12,059 S8: Or as I'm just listening to them, as I'm filtering 267 00:12:12,059 --> 00:12:16,300 S8: through their story, I do it through an intentional biblical worldview. 268 00:12:16,700 --> 00:12:19,340 S8: So there are some people coming in with situations where 269 00:12:19,340 --> 00:12:21,939 S8: they just need some immediate thinking through to help them 270 00:12:21,940 --> 00:12:23,660 S8: get out of a crisis mode, or to think about 271 00:12:23,660 --> 00:12:26,620 S8: the next step. So I wouldn't put it in competition 272 00:12:26,620 --> 00:12:29,020 S8: between someone that says, I am a Christian, and I'm 273 00:12:29,059 --> 00:12:31,939 S8: going to use scripture that we call that biblical counseling. 274 00:12:32,140 --> 00:12:35,620 S8: Or if you want to be a Christian counselor, as 275 00:12:35,660 --> 00:12:38,460 S8: like in my integrative view, is called Christian psychology, in 276 00:12:38,460 --> 00:12:40,900 S8: which as I look at psychology, I do so with 277 00:12:40,900 --> 00:12:44,910 S8: a very intentional Christian view. And as a Christian, I'm 278 00:12:44,910 --> 00:12:47,230 S8: able to go into other places at a biblical counselor 279 00:12:47,230 --> 00:12:48,350 S8: could not go into. 280 00:12:48,830 --> 00:12:51,429 S6: How many people ask you if you're a born again Christian? Well, 281 00:12:51,429 --> 00:12:53,390 S6: they might not say born again. How many people ask 282 00:12:53,429 --> 00:12:56,150 S6: you if you're a Christian? Out of ten people, ten clients? 283 00:12:56,590 --> 00:13:01,230 S8: Um, maybe one. So this is this is shocking. Most 284 00:13:01,230 --> 00:13:05,469 S8: clients do not come in asking anything about the worldview 285 00:13:05,470 --> 00:13:07,949 S8: of the counselor at all. And it never has been 286 00:13:07,950 --> 00:13:10,589 S8: for almost 40 years now. Nobody asks. They just come 287 00:13:10,590 --> 00:13:12,750 S8: knowing they're so desperate for help or they so need 288 00:13:12,750 --> 00:13:15,949 S8: to talk, that they want someone who is compassionate, who 289 00:13:15,950 --> 00:13:18,750 S8: is supposedly trained, and then they just want help. 290 00:13:18,790 --> 00:13:21,870 S6: That's a staggering number. So speak to everyone right now 291 00:13:21,910 --> 00:13:24,070 S6: of what they should be looking for in a counselor, 292 00:13:24,070 --> 00:13:27,470 S6: because we've got thousands upon thousands right now that are 293 00:13:27,470 --> 00:13:31,310 S6: either meeting with some or or looking for some. And 294 00:13:31,309 --> 00:13:33,870 S6: I've run into this numbers of times. What should they 295 00:13:33,910 --> 00:13:34,790 S6: be looking for? 296 00:13:35,110 --> 00:13:38,069 S8: I would ask, what is the worldview of the counselor 297 00:13:38,070 --> 00:13:39,790 S8: you'll be talking to? And if the counselor is like, 298 00:13:39,790 --> 00:13:43,030 S8: what do you mean by worldview? What is your faith orientation. 299 00:13:43,390 --> 00:13:46,670 S8: How do you use your faith within the counseling context? 300 00:13:46,710 --> 00:13:49,709 S8: What is your understanding of Scripture? Because that really is 301 00:13:49,710 --> 00:13:52,150 S8: the basis. If they if they're not, well, they're not 302 00:13:52,150 --> 00:13:54,949 S8: a Christian, or if they don't use they don't understand 303 00:13:54,990 --> 00:13:57,870 S8: Scripture at all. It depends on what you're going to write. 304 00:13:57,910 --> 00:14:00,790 S8: If you're going to go and you actually need a 305 00:14:00,790 --> 00:14:02,670 S8: med check or you need something, it's kind of like 306 00:14:02,670 --> 00:14:04,390 S8: going to the dentist. I don't always need my dentist 307 00:14:04,429 --> 00:14:06,630 S8: to be talking to me about the Bible. However, if 308 00:14:06,630 --> 00:14:10,069 S8: you're really looking at some cognitive restructuring and some self-regulation, 309 00:14:10,309 --> 00:14:12,510 S8: you're going to make sure that there's a biblical worldview 310 00:14:12,550 --> 00:14:14,350 S8: coming at you, and especially if you're taking your kids 311 00:14:14,350 --> 00:14:16,829 S8: or teenagers in, what are they going to be telling them? 312 00:14:16,830 --> 00:14:19,070 S8: Are you going to align yourself with the principles of 313 00:14:19,070 --> 00:14:22,870 S8: the world when it comes especially to sexuality or gender? 314 00:14:22,870 --> 00:14:24,470 S8: Or are you going to look at Scripture as your 315 00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:27,550 S8: guiding light of how God defines sexuality and gender? You're 316 00:14:27,550 --> 00:14:30,710 S8: going to want to ask those hard questions up front 317 00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:32,830 S8: and keep asking them. Even if you have to go 318 00:14:32,830 --> 00:14:35,950 S8: through 2025 counselors so that you get a person that's 319 00:14:35,950 --> 00:14:38,710 S8: going to be aligned with God's Word, even if they're 320 00:14:38,710 --> 00:14:40,590 S8: in a clinic in which it's not going to be 321 00:14:40,590 --> 00:14:41,520 S8: pulled out directly. 322 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,840 S6: Yeah, I couldn't agree more, sister. Look, I don't care 323 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,600 S6: if my house is on fire. Give me the fireman 324 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,640 S6: that drinks and chews and goes with girls that dos 325 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,280 S6: and all that stuff. I could care less. But when 326 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,360 S6: you got a counselor, they need a Christian worldview. And 327 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,000 S6: they got to have a working knowledge of the word. Okay. 328 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,320 S6: Elizabeth Smith, more coming up. Here's what I want to tackle. 329 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,120 S6: You got a vantage point. You've been counseling a few years. 330 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,800 S6: I'm not going to offer up how many because I 331 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,360 S6: don't know for sure. But from your vantage point, Elizabeth, 332 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,160 S6: what are the issues you're having to hit now versus then? 333 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,000 S6: More with Elizabeth Smith straight ahead. 334 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,800 S1: When you don't know who's better to ask than an expert. 335 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,960 S1: You're listening to Carl and crew. 336 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,240 S6: Well, here we are on Freedom Friday, guys. And man, 337 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,360 S6: we're going to be getting back to a great guest 338 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,520 S6: and expert, doctor, Elizabeth Smith. But I want to tell you, 339 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,600 S6: next week is going to be huge. Look, we start 340 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:41,290 S6: on Tuesday. We're listener supported. I'm asking God for a miracle. 341 00:15:41,290 --> 00:15:45,570 S6: I'm asking us to move from 67% participation rate, 8% 342 00:15:45,570 --> 00:15:50,210 S6: sometimes to 15 to 20. That would be like plate shifting. 343 00:15:50,210 --> 00:15:52,650 S6: That would be like, yes, like one of the biggest 344 00:15:52,650 --> 00:15:56,050 S6: spiritual earthquakes in North America. But can God do it? 345 00:15:56,090 --> 00:15:59,050 S6: He can already have some indications that he's on the move. 346 00:15:59,050 --> 00:16:00,810 S6: And I want you to be a part of that. 347 00:16:01,050 --> 00:16:04,010 S6: Here's all I ask you to do. Join about 800 348 00:16:04,010 --> 00:16:06,690 S6: people who are praying and asking God to work through 349 00:16:06,690 --> 00:16:09,930 S6: this effort next week, and I'm asking you to be 350 00:16:09,930 --> 00:16:13,610 S6: a part of it. Would you really lean in, be 351 00:16:13,610 --> 00:16:16,490 S6: a part of this effort next week, and be in 352 00:16:16,490 --> 00:16:19,050 S6: prayer for it along the way with me right now, 353 00:16:19,090 --> 00:16:22,850 S6: doctor Elizabeth Smith alright. How long you had your count? Well, 354 00:16:22,850 --> 00:16:25,170 S6: I'm not going to ask you that. You've been counseling 355 00:16:25,170 --> 00:16:26,850 S6: a long time, right, Elizabeth? 356 00:16:27,170 --> 00:16:30,490 S8: Almost 40 years. It's okay. You can say the number. 357 00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:32,970 S8: I'm good. I can handle it. 358 00:16:33,410 --> 00:16:34,050 S3: We were just. 359 00:16:34,370 --> 00:16:34,810 S8: Just a few. 360 00:16:34,810 --> 00:16:35,650 S3: Times, all right? 361 00:16:35,730 --> 00:16:36,810 S8: My first rodeo. 362 00:16:36,930 --> 00:16:39,770 S6: That a girl, I don't. I'm so proud of you. So, 363 00:16:39,770 --> 00:16:42,770 S6: 40 years of this counseling. All right. What were the 364 00:16:42,770 --> 00:16:45,170 S6: issues 40 years ago? And what are they today? 365 00:16:45,690 --> 00:16:49,210 S8: Well, 40 years ago, therapy was often seen as just 366 00:16:49,210 --> 00:16:51,970 S8: something that a few people would go to. Um, how 367 00:16:51,970 --> 00:16:54,250 S8: we were able to deliver it. It had to be, 368 00:16:54,250 --> 00:16:57,050 S8: you know, face to face. Whereas now we have technology. 369 00:16:57,410 --> 00:17:00,770 S8: We've actually the clients coming in are far more complex. Um, 370 00:17:00,770 --> 00:17:03,090 S8: and we've also had a ton more training when it 371 00:17:03,090 --> 00:17:07,290 S8: comes to trauma focused treatment. And probably the biggest challenge 372 00:17:07,290 --> 00:17:11,290 S8: that counselors are facing is really understanding diversity and cultural, uh, 373 00:17:11,730 --> 00:17:16,369 S8: complexity of multicultural counseling, because people are coming from such different. 374 00:17:16,410 --> 00:17:18,369 S8: We really are a melting pot. And so bringing in 375 00:17:18,369 --> 00:17:21,370 S8: those different perspectives so that we're doing it well. So 376 00:17:21,369 --> 00:17:24,050 S8: it's a bit more complex. We're also seeing a ton 377 00:17:24,050 --> 00:17:29,130 S8: more burnout, um, and workforce issues. People are exhausted in 378 00:17:29,130 --> 00:17:29,850 S8: their jobs. 379 00:17:29,890 --> 00:17:30,290 S3: Yeah. 380 00:17:30,330 --> 00:17:32,689 S8: Um, and much more so than even 40 years ago. 381 00:17:33,369 --> 00:17:38,780 S6: Oh, this is it's heartache because, um, The needs out 382 00:17:38,780 --> 00:17:42,580 S6: there are so immense. Is there something in the church 383 00:17:42,580 --> 00:17:46,060 S6: that is broken that can be fixed, that will take 384 00:17:46,060 --> 00:17:49,620 S6: the load off of counselors? Because we in our area 385 00:17:49,619 --> 00:17:54,740 S6: where we're at both campuses, we've got counseling, uh, clinics, 386 00:17:54,740 --> 00:17:57,780 S6: I guess you would call it, they're they're looking for 387 00:17:57,780 --> 00:18:00,820 S6: more space constantly right now. What do you say, Elizabeth? 388 00:18:01,340 --> 00:18:04,220 S8: Yeah. I think the church needs to see that there's 389 00:18:04,220 --> 00:18:06,940 S8: nothing new they need to do. They just really need 390 00:18:06,940 --> 00:18:10,540 S8: to promote what they're already doing or who they really are. 391 00:18:10,859 --> 00:18:15,540 S8: The church can be a safe place for people to 392 00:18:15,580 --> 00:18:19,659 S8: go to, for they need social support. They need the community, 393 00:18:19,660 --> 00:18:22,180 S8: the body of Christ. I think if we're not careful, 394 00:18:22,180 --> 00:18:24,219 S8: we think that we go to just a person. We 395 00:18:24,220 --> 00:18:27,220 S8: have to go to the pastor, we go to the counselor. 396 00:18:27,460 --> 00:18:30,380 S8: When really the body of Christ, the spirit works through 397 00:18:30,380 --> 00:18:34,420 S8: all of us. And so your small groups, your mentorship, 398 00:18:34,420 --> 00:18:36,580 S8: where you're in a, you know, an opportunity to get 399 00:18:36,580 --> 00:18:38,900 S8: together with a couple other people, to talk things through 400 00:18:39,180 --> 00:18:42,300 S8: the body of Christ as a safe place where people 401 00:18:42,300 --> 00:18:46,860 S8: can experience empathy, they can experience empowerment, they can experience 402 00:18:46,859 --> 00:18:49,700 S8: problem solving, and they're doing it together within the body 403 00:18:49,700 --> 00:18:53,700 S8: of Christ. Do not underestimate the power of a congregation. Amen. 404 00:18:53,740 --> 00:18:56,820 S8: And stop putting it down to just 1 or 2 people, which, 405 00:18:56,820 --> 00:18:59,540 S8: when you're carrying the load on your shoulders alone, goes 406 00:18:59,540 --> 00:19:03,220 S8: back to that issue of burnout and challenges in the workforce. 407 00:19:03,540 --> 00:19:06,420 S6: Yeah, I love that because I think we underestimate the 408 00:19:06,420 --> 00:19:09,940 S6: power of community in the church. I really do. And 409 00:19:09,940 --> 00:19:12,620 S6: I know that we need experts at certain levels. And 410 00:19:12,619 --> 00:19:15,100 S6: clearly in counseling there are some issues that come up 411 00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:17,340 S6: that way. But I've been blown away as a pastor. 412 00:19:17,340 --> 00:19:21,180 S6: How many deep issues can get resolved in loving community? 413 00:19:21,180 --> 00:19:23,179 S6: I'm not overstating it, am I, Elizabeth? 414 00:19:23,420 --> 00:19:27,859 S8: Not at all. No. Relationships is where the positive relationships 415 00:19:27,859 --> 00:19:29,900 S8: we have with one another think about all the one 416 00:19:29,900 --> 00:19:32,260 S8: another verses that God gives us. Encourage one another. Bear 417 00:19:32,300 --> 00:19:35,270 S8: with one another, love one another. Forgive one another. The 418 00:19:35,270 --> 00:19:38,790 S8: one anothers is what we do within our relationships. And yes, 419 00:19:38,790 --> 00:19:40,590 S8: you're right, you need to go see a doctor. You 420 00:19:40,590 --> 00:19:42,630 S8: need to go see a professional counselor. If there's something 421 00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:44,830 S8: that needs to be diagnosed and there is medical treatment 422 00:19:44,830 --> 00:19:46,950 S8: out there, and I'm a big fan of that. But 423 00:19:46,950 --> 00:19:51,550 S8: within healing relationships, shame is dealt with, guilt is dealt with. 424 00:19:51,550 --> 00:19:56,469 S8: Forgiveness is given. Repentance can happen. Confess to one another, 425 00:19:56,869 --> 00:19:59,750 S8: give grace to one another. All of those one anothers 426 00:19:59,750 --> 00:20:03,669 S8: and the things we do within everyday relationships is really 427 00:20:03,670 --> 00:20:07,070 S8: your power that God can use to bring about healing 428 00:20:07,070 --> 00:20:10,550 S8: and well-being in someone, so encouraging those. It's a community. 429 00:20:10,590 --> 00:20:12,830 S8: It's not a place you go listen to a sermon 430 00:20:12,830 --> 00:20:15,310 S8: and come home. It is about being a part of 431 00:20:15,310 --> 00:20:17,629 S8: a community that knows you, where you are known and 432 00:20:17,630 --> 00:20:20,150 S8: you know others, and you live within those relationships and 433 00:20:20,150 --> 00:20:23,790 S8: those people who do have much better mental health than 434 00:20:23,790 --> 00:20:25,470 S8: those who are trying to do this life alone. 435 00:20:26,430 --> 00:20:29,350 S6: Doctor Elizabeth Smith is our guest. Guys, we got some 436 00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:32,030 S6: good stuff, so I promise we were going to hit her. 437 00:20:32,190 --> 00:20:36,870 S6: Three biggest areas of expertise. We hit children and family 438 00:20:36,869 --> 00:20:39,310 S6: just to touch on it. Barely. We hit a little 439 00:20:39,350 --> 00:20:42,109 S6: bit of this counseling and now we're going to slip 440 00:20:42,109 --> 00:20:46,190 S6: into where she is now. Program head for Moody Online 441 00:20:46,550 --> 00:20:51,670 S6: and how this may help equip you questions for her 442 00:20:51,670 --> 00:20:52,310 S6: coming up. 443 00:20:53,630 --> 00:20:56,869 S1: Get in the know with life's biggest questions. It's Ask 444 00:20:56,910 --> 00:20:58,990 S1: the Experts week with Carl and crew. 445 00:20:59,630 --> 00:21:03,870 S6: It's Freedom Friday and it is. Ask the experts with 446 00:21:03,869 --> 00:21:07,790 S6: me today, Doctor Elizabeth Smith. She's the program head for 447 00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:10,270 S6: Moody Online. I've been holding on to that because this 448 00:21:10,270 --> 00:21:13,910 S6: is the one part of her expertise where she's really going. 449 00:21:13,950 --> 00:21:17,150 S6: And boy, if you've heard her fired up already this hour, 450 00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:20,310 S6: you ain't seen nothing yet. Elizabeth, this has got you 451 00:21:20,310 --> 00:21:22,389 S6: on steroids here, doesn't it, for energy? 452 00:21:22,670 --> 00:21:26,189 S8: Absolutely. I am all about Moody online and how we 453 00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:28,830 S8: are able to train people right where they're at in 454 00:21:28,830 --> 00:21:31,350 S8: the Word of God, in whatever calling they have, uh, 455 00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:34,320 S8: through online education and moody. I'm just going to say 456 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,480 S8: we're the best of the best. 457 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,520 S6: Yeah, and it's really cool. This was a big aha 458 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,040 S6: moment for myself and Ali when you were in here last. Uh, 459 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,400 S6: Ali's getting a little R&R today. She'll be back here Monday, 460 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,359 S6: but my goodness I you've got to lay it out 461 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,680 S6: for all those parents and grandparents and even some students. 462 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,560 S6: We have kids listening here. You guys are offering something. 463 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,120 S6: It's high schoolers, right? 464 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,160 S8: Absolutely. More and more high schoolers are taking college classes 465 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,400 S8: while they're in high school for two reasons. One, either 466 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,560 S8: to finish their high school degree or to get a 467 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,320 S8: leg up starting their, uh, their college career. And Moody 468 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,320 S8: Online is now starting Moody Online Academy for sophomores, juniors 469 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,399 S8: and seniors who meet the qualifications. You have to have 470 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,880 S8: a certain GPA and a character reference, but we are 471 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,679 S8: offering classes so that they can start those college classes 472 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,760 S8: and really help them establish a biblical worldview before they 473 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,120 S8: jump in to the full college experience. 474 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,280 S6: That's the big deal, because there's a lot of parents 475 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,560 S6: that there's a little bit of tentativeness like, okay, they're 476 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,600 S6: under my covering here. But when they get out and 477 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,040 S6: we've we've heard all the stories. And frankly, as a 478 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,800 S6: pastor and as a parent, I've seen the stories of 479 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,959 S6: going into universities with worldviews that are far from the 480 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,800 S6: Scripture and frankly, that can have negative impact. But they 481 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,960 S6: get these gen ed studies. I'm talking philosophy, even business 482 00:22:54,960 --> 00:23:00,080 S6: classes from Moody Online. And you've got that biblical worldview. 483 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,280 S6: That's beautiful, isn't it, Elizabeth? 484 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,120 S8: 100%. One of the things I hear parents talking about 485 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,520 S8: with their high schoolers and thinking about going to college is, 486 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,639 S8: what will my child do? And I want to kindly say, 487 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,640 S8: I don't really care. I don't really care in comparison 488 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,240 S8: to who your child is, who they are, what they believe, 489 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,080 S8: because what they believe and who they are, the strength 490 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,119 S8: of their faith is really what determines their future. So 491 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,689 S8: as they train in what they're going to do. Make 492 00:23:30,730 --> 00:23:35,250 S8: sure that you protect with everything you have, what they believe, 493 00:23:35,410 --> 00:23:39,490 S8: and who they are becoming because they are so vulnerable 494 00:23:39,730 --> 00:23:42,210 S8: when it comes between that high school and that college, 495 00:23:42,210 --> 00:23:46,530 S8: that bridge toward adulthood. They're so vulnerable. Don't look at 496 00:23:46,530 --> 00:23:48,890 S8: them and go, just because they have big bodies, they're 497 00:23:48,890 --> 00:23:53,010 S8: still young. Protect them. It's our job. And so trust 498 00:23:53,010 --> 00:23:55,690 S8: them to Moody Online, where we will care for their 499 00:23:55,690 --> 00:23:58,890 S8: soul as much as we will teach them anything in 500 00:23:58,890 --> 00:23:59,410 S8: the course. 501 00:23:59,609 --> 00:24:02,130 S6: I love that. Uh, what are some of the other 502 00:24:02,130 --> 00:24:04,649 S6: things that you have going in Moody Online that people 503 00:24:04,650 --> 00:24:06,090 S6: need to know about? Because I'm going to put a 504 00:24:06,090 --> 00:24:07,930 S6: banner ad up here in just a moment. 505 00:24:08,330 --> 00:24:12,370 S8: We have a 90 credit three year intro to business 506 00:24:12,369 --> 00:24:14,890 S8: course called Business Administration. So you can get your B.S. 507 00:24:14,890 --> 00:24:19,050 S8: in Business Administration in just 90 credits three years. And 508 00:24:19,050 --> 00:24:22,689 S8: we also have a master's in Human services, which is 509 00:24:22,690 --> 00:24:25,130 S8: for those who want to go into counseling and mental health. 510 00:24:25,130 --> 00:24:27,330 S8: It's a great two year program where you can get 511 00:24:27,330 --> 00:24:29,850 S8: your master's degree and go out and make that difference 512 00:24:29,850 --> 00:24:30,570 S8: in the world. 513 00:24:30,609 --> 00:24:33,050 S6: Hold it so you can go moody online to get 514 00:24:33,050 --> 00:24:37,770 S6: a business degree and to post college, all that basic stuff. 515 00:24:37,810 --> 00:24:40,690 S6: You can get your master's to get yourself certified for counseling. 516 00:24:40,690 --> 00:24:41,490 S6: Is that true? 517 00:24:41,690 --> 00:24:44,409 S8: Yeah, yeah. A master's in human services will lead to 518 00:24:44,450 --> 00:24:49,170 S8: more community, more social work. A master's in counseling psychology 519 00:24:49,210 --> 00:24:52,010 S8: will move you toward licensure. And we have both online. 520 00:24:52,050 --> 00:24:52,609 S3: Yeah. 521 00:24:52,609 --> 00:24:55,609 S6: Wow. This is beautiful. All right, guys, I want you 522 00:24:55,609 --> 00:24:57,850 S6: to know that we have got we're not done with 523 00:24:57,850 --> 00:25:00,170 S6: Doctor Elizabeth Smith. But I want you to know that 524 00:25:00,170 --> 00:25:04,050 S6: we have got something sweet for you here. If you 525 00:25:04,050 --> 00:25:06,850 S6: text the word moody, you're going to be put onto 526 00:25:06,890 --> 00:25:10,810 S6: a website that has everything that she just spoke of 527 00:25:10,850 --> 00:25:15,290 S6: and more. In fact, Moody Academy is the that's the 528 00:25:15,290 --> 00:25:18,850 S6: icon for those sophomores, juniors, seniors. So you want to 529 00:25:18,850 --> 00:25:24,970 S6: check that out. So text Moody to 800 555 7898. 530 00:25:25,250 --> 00:25:33,180 S6: Text Moody to 800 555 7898. Well, we're on Freedom 531 00:25:33,180 --> 00:25:36,899 S6: Friday here and ask the experts. And coming up, I'm 532 00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:39,300 S6: going to have a little bit more time with Elizabeth 533 00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:43,100 S6: to explore this one very important question. What do you 534 00:25:43,140 --> 00:25:47,820 S6: do as a steward of God's kingdom stuff? When you 535 00:25:47,820 --> 00:25:51,500 S6: pull away from Moody Radio and you walk away going, wow, 536 00:25:51,940 --> 00:25:54,900 S6: that helped me. Details straight ahead. 537 00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:58,620 S1: You're listening to Carl and crew on Moody Radio. 538 00:25:59,140 --> 00:26:03,060 S6: Doctor Elizabeth Smith is my guest today on Ask the Expert. 539 00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:07,100 S6: She is program head for Moody Online as as well 540 00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:10,460 S6: as program head of children and family ministry for Moody 541 00:26:10,460 --> 00:26:16,379 S6: Bible Institute. She's a professor. She's the counselor. She's a 542 00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:21,060 S6: deep lover of God, and she's got her priorities aligned. 543 00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:24,300 S6: She's been transformed by the power of God, sealed in 544 00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:27,980 S6: the Holy Spirit and is committed with her hubby to 545 00:26:28,020 --> 00:26:32,620 S6: growing up strong in Jesus Christ. You know Elizabeth, I 546 00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:38,260 S6: really am facing next week with a little bit of woe. 547 00:26:38,420 --> 00:26:40,060 S6: We got a big one in front of us here. 548 00:26:40,060 --> 00:26:42,940 S6: We're listener supported, you know that, and we're looking at 549 00:26:42,940 --> 00:26:46,540 S6: $4 million. But I just want you to share your 550 00:26:46,540 --> 00:26:51,620 S6: heart with people about why Moody Radio, why invest in this. 551 00:26:52,380 --> 00:26:56,700 S8: Moody radio goes beyond any kind of walls that we 552 00:26:56,700 --> 00:27:00,020 S8: may put up that the or, as well as it's 553 00:27:00,020 --> 00:27:02,100 S8: able to help us fight right where we're at against 554 00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:04,420 S8: all the challenges that the world brings to us. And 555 00:27:04,420 --> 00:27:06,820 S8: we need to break down walls and fight the enemy, 556 00:27:07,020 --> 00:27:09,380 S8: and we need that in our life every moment. And 557 00:27:09,380 --> 00:27:12,060 S8: Moody Radio can be there with you every step of 558 00:27:12,060 --> 00:27:14,740 S8: your journey, day or night. You can turn it on 559 00:27:14,740 --> 00:27:17,060 S8: and it's faithful. You don't have to sit there and 560 00:27:17,060 --> 00:27:19,219 S8: worry about, oh, what's going to be coming on the 561 00:27:19,220 --> 00:27:21,940 S8: screen next? Or coming through my radio next, or what's 562 00:27:21,940 --> 00:27:23,979 S8: going on. It is a it is a voice you 563 00:27:24,020 --> 00:27:26,510 S8: can trust no matter what time of day. If you're 564 00:27:26,510 --> 00:27:28,830 S8: in the middle of the night and you are depressed 565 00:27:28,830 --> 00:27:30,950 S8: or you're worried or you need prayer, turn on Moody 566 00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:34,030 S8: Radio first thing in the morning. Carl and crew hit 567 00:27:34,030 --> 00:27:37,629 S8: it strong. Get your mind in the right frame of mind. 568 00:27:37,790 --> 00:27:40,990 S8: And let them come along to help you flourish in 569 00:27:40,990 --> 00:27:42,950 S8: this life that God has given you. We are meant 570 00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:46,510 S8: to flourish, and we are able to do that so 571 00:27:46,510 --> 00:27:48,830 S8: much more effectively with the help of Moody Radio. 572 00:27:48,990 --> 00:27:53,189 S6: Ah. That's beautiful. You know, it's interesting. Um, you know, 573 00:27:53,230 --> 00:27:55,790 S6: I will say this one caveat to what you said. 574 00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:58,390 S6: You're going to get truth, you're going to get encouragement, 575 00:27:58,390 --> 00:28:00,510 S6: but you might get a little bit of crazy here 576 00:28:00,510 --> 00:28:01,350 S6: because we. 577 00:28:01,390 --> 00:28:01,790 S3: We. 578 00:28:01,910 --> 00:28:05,790 S6: We value authenticity here in a big way. And I've 579 00:28:05,790 --> 00:28:09,750 S6: been so blown away. It hasn't been even a year 580 00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:13,270 S6: yet since we, our audience has expanded massively, and we're 581 00:28:13,270 --> 00:28:17,150 S6: so grateful for the grace of people that have said, hey, 582 00:28:17,630 --> 00:28:20,750 S6: we know you're new to us, but we're going to listen. 583 00:28:20,750 --> 00:28:23,470 S6: And so many have embraced what God's doing here and 584 00:28:23,470 --> 00:28:26,909 S6: we're so thankful for them. But, boy, ministry in life, 585 00:28:26,910 --> 00:28:29,950 S6: it's so much bigger than us. To the person who 586 00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:33,030 S6: kind of has stuck in that Dead Sea mode where 587 00:28:33,030 --> 00:28:36,350 S6: they're receiving a lot, but they're not giving anything. Tell 588 00:28:36,350 --> 00:28:38,750 S6: them the principle there is you got to kick something 589 00:28:38,750 --> 00:28:41,190 S6: out at the end so that you can start living again. 590 00:28:41,430 --> 00:28:43,790 S6: How does that work practically, Elizabeth? 591 00:28:44,350 --> 00:28:46,830 S8: I'm going to give a plug to give to Moody 592 00:28:46,830 --> 00:28:50,430 S8: Radio if you are receiving something. Um, and the apostle 593 00:28:50,430 --> 00:28:54,590 S8: Paul talks about not muzzling the ox, and I think 594 00:28:54,590 --> 00:28:58,030 S8: he uses that term meaning for those that are faithfully 595 00:28:58,030 --> 00:29:00,310 S8: serving and preaching the Word of God and who teaching, 596 00:29:00,590 --> 00:29:02,950 S8: make sure that we are feeding them. Make sure that 597 00:29:02,950 --> 00:29:05,910 S8: we are giving everything they they need in order to 598 00:29:05,950 --> 00:29:09,030 S8: continue to do the work God has called them to do. 599 00:29:09,070 --> 00:29:11,270 S8: And so, Carl, you do an amazing work. And by 600 00:29:11,270 --> 00:29:13,670 S8: the way, thank you. Thank you for not being a 601 00:29:13,710 --> 00:29:16,430 S8: cookie cutter radio host. I don't need a cookie cutter 602 00:29:16,430 --> 00:29:18,830 S8: radio host. I need somebody that can come in in 603 00:29:18,830 --> 00:29:21,110 S8: the morning and talk truth and be who they are, 604 00:29:21,150 --> 00:29:23,600 S8: because it gives me power. It gives me the ability 605 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,800 S8: to be who I am. And I'm a little zany 606 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,600 S8: and crazy, and some people say a bit too much, okay, 607 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,640 S8: but that's who God made me to be. I want 608 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,600 S8: every listener to be who God made them to be 609 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,959 S8: and to flourish. And we need to support you and 610 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,680 S8: everybody else at Moody Radio to keep doing that. So 611 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,680 S8: if you have received something from God, you will be 612 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,120 S8: blessed 100 fold by not muzzling the ox. Let Carl 613 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,000 S8: let Moody Radio do what God has called them to 614 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,120 S8: do by supporting them with your time, with your words 615 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,840 S8: of encouragement, email in text, in telling them how much 616 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,160 S8: you love them and praying for them. And three give 617 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,520 S8: of your resources. God didn't give you the resources to hoard, 618 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,200 S8: but to give out generously. You will never outgive God, 619 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,880 S8: and then you get to be a part of the 620 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,960 S8: work that God is doing. 621 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,880 S6: I love it, you know. Super die. I think. I 622 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,520 S6: want you to chime in here, sister. It's been awesome 623 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,800 S6: having Doctor Elizabeth Smith, but, um, she mentioned something that's important, 624 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,800 S6: and we aren't going to do any asking, but we've 625 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,040 S6: got a key word that we can text for sure, 626 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,600 S6: can't we? 627 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,680 S7: We absolutely do. That keyword is moody. It is. Moody. 628 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,640 S7: Gets you to all the connections. As far as Moody online, 629 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,520 S7: the courses, that high school course that she even talked 630 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,840 S7: to you about how they can get credit, text the 631 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:37,640 S7: word moody to 855 five 7898. That word is simply 632 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:42,360 S7: moody to 855 five 7898. 633 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,840 S6: All week long, ask the experts. And it's been a 634 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,160 S6: joy to have Elizabeth in with us today. I want 635 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,000 S6: you to know that if you've heard anything and you 636 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,360 S6: just want a shot at it again, we've taken each 637 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,600 S6: of our guests and broken them into episodes. So all 638 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,560 S6: you have to do is text the word show and 639 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,000 S6: it's not per day. All the guests together, it's an 640 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,800 S6: episode per guest. So just check it out. Text the 641 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,680 S6: word show to 805, 55, 78, 98. Get that link. 642 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:19,840 S6: Get subscribed. Text show to 800 555 7898.