WEBVTT - Be the Church

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<v S1>Coming to you from the Morning Star Mission sponsored studio.

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<v S1>This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>I want to thank you at the top of this hour.

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<v S2>For all of you that have jumped in to be

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<v S2>part of the prayer warriors. I mean, what's the best?

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<v S2>What's the best description? Ali.

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<v S3>Oh, boy. I mean, it's an army. It's a prayer army. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v S3>I mean, they're on mission. They're marching orders. Instructions committed

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<v S3>to one goal.

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<v S2>Yeah. We're going to resource you, give you insider peak.

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<v S2>We want to give you. In fact, you know, there's

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<v S2>things that come up during share, which starts in earnest

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<v S2>next week that are obstacles that we want to overcome,

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<v S2>kind of insights that we're gaining. And we want to

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<v S2>give you an insider's perspective of what's going on and

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<v S2>then be shoulder to shoulder with you in prayer so

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<v S2>that when you grab your half hour slot for prayer,

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<v S2>you've got prayer points that we're going to give you

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<v S2>real good guidance. And we're even going to give you

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<v S2>scriptures to be leaning into as you pray. You can

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<v S2>do this on a walk. You can do this truly.

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<v S2>If you've got a commute where you can just lean

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<v S2>into God. You can pray with your eyes wide open. Guys,

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<v S2>I do it all the time. You got a prayer closet?

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<v S2>You can go there as well, but we're asking you

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<v S2>to jump in and be a part of share in

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<v S2>the most important way. Would you grab a half an

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<v S2>hour of prayer? And if you've got a gift of

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<v S2>this praying, fill them in, man. Grab a couple of slots.

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<v S2>Grab a friend. Call a friend. This is something that

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<v S2>you can do together. Ten people per half hour slot.

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<v S2>Where are we at here, super guy? What's our count?

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<v S2>How many do we have to go yet?

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<v S4>Let me do one more update just to make sure

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<v S4>I've got the right count. We actually need 400. Even

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<v S4>we are at 200 already.

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<v S2>All right. Yeah, we got 400 slots to fill. Let's

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<v S2>get let's get 40 of those right now. Let's just

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<v S2>get 40 of them right now.

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<v S3>We got an easy sign up link for you if

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<v S3>you text the word crew c r e w to

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<v S3>800 555 7898. Text crew to 805 five five 7898.

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<v S3>You'll get a link back from us. Just click. Click

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<v S3>on it and scroll down and pick the 30 minute

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<v S3>slot that works for you. You don't have to come here.

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<v S3>Like Carl said, you can pray on your commute. You can.

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<v S3>I like pray prayer walking like that's a that's a

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<v S3>great way to do it. You're outside. Hopefully you get

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<v S3>some nice weather in a little bit of sunshine. But

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<v S3>a prayer walk or prayer drive, a prayer sit, a

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<v S3>prayer kneel, you pick the place that works for you.

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<v S3>Just commit to the time. We'll send you the reminder

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<v S3>and some prayer points. Text crew to 805, five, five, 78, 98.

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<v S2>And somebody needs to take a risk there. Like on

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<v S2>the bubble. I'm asking you to jump over and grab

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<v S2>it right now. That's you. Yeah. I'm talking to you, friend. Yeah. Oh, busted.

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<v S2>Text crew to 800 555 98. Big difference between going

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<v S2>to church and being the church. And we're breaking it

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<v S2>down all week long. And boy, what a way to

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<v S2>kick it off with our York. More smoke on the water.

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<v S3>Like you smoke.

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<v S2>Smoke on the water like Ali likes to say.

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<v S3>Definitely Carlism.

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<v S2>Oh, that's an alias right there. Ali. Go girl. Woo!

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<v S1>He was sharing the gospel on the radio and then

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<v S1>he got saved. Young thunders in the crew. It's Carlin

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<v S1>crew on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>Be the church. As opposed to what Carl? As opposed

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<v S2>to going to church. Now, going to church is a

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<v S2>great thing. Don't hear me wrong on this one, right?

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<v S2>Super die. We got to get there in order to

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<v S2>be there.

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<v S4>Yes. Don't hear us wrong. You've got to go to

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<v S4>be as you just said. But what do you.

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<v S2>Say, young thunder difference for you from going to church

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<v S2>and being the church?

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<v S5>Well, going to church I did for years. You show up,

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<v S5>you sit in the pew or the chair and you

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<v S5>listen to the sermon. Maybe you say hi to a

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<v S5>couple people and then you're out and and that's your

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<v S5>kind of your time with the people of God. That's

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<v S5>your time with his community. That's your time in his word.

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<v S5>And then you just come back next week. Maybe you

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<v S5>don't even come back next week. Maybe it's just a

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<v S5>couple times a month. Being the church is saying, I

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<v S5>understand that I have been affected by the love of

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<v S5>Jesus so greatly that now I am going to live

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<v S5>that in my life. That's how I interact with brothers

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<v S5>and sisters in Christ. That's how I interact with with

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<v S5>people who don't know Christ yet. And that's inside the church.

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<v S5>That's outside the church. It's not confined to walls.

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<v S2>I've got York more with me right now. He's going

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<v S2>to spike that young thunder revivalist, gifted communicator, great leader,

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<v S2>president and CEO, national evangelist of the coalition for Christian Outreach.

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<v S2>What do you say, York? How do we move from

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<v S2>going to church to be the church, my man.

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<v S6>Well, it's great to hear your voice again, Carl. You know,

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<v S6>it really is everything. You know, when Jesus calls us

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<v S6>to follow him. He calls us into all of life.

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<v S6>And that doesn't just mean a nice Sunday service. And

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<v S6>there's nothing wrong. Like you said, there's nothing wrong with

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<v S6>attending a church service. But our faith is supposed to

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<v S6>be a Monday through Sunday faith. And really, the best

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<v S6>part of following Jesus is actually when we're out in

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<v S6>the world, you know, 99% of Christians live 99% of

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<v S6>their lives in the workplace. And so being the church

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<v S6>on mission really does happen oftentimes in a place of work.

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<v S6>And so the Coalition of Christian outreach, we're discipling students,

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<v S6>we're disciple making movement, and we're discipling students with this

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<v S6>arc toward occupation, toward work. And so oftentimes we sit

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<v S6>in that Sunday morning pew or the bench or the chair,

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<v S6>as you said, and we hear a message about how

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<v S6>to have good marriages, or we hear messages about, you know,

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<v S6>forgiveness and all of that's very important. It's all very important.

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<v S6>But I think oftentimes being the church on mission with

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<v S6>Jesus is more about what it looks like to actually

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<v S6>be functionally in the world with non-believers, rather than how

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<v S6>to have a better inner life, or how to have

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<v S6>a better prayer life or these kinds of things. And

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<v S6>so God is sending us into all of life, whether

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<v S6>it's the workplace I just got back from vacation. And

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<v S6>vacation is something that oftentimes we leave Jesus back at home.

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<v S6>But Jesus wants to be the Lord of every square

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<v S6>inch of our lives, every moment of our lives, Monday

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<v S6>through Sunday, not just Sunday morning.

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<v S2>I love it. York Moore, our guest. We're going to

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<v S2>have a link, guys, with some great resources that he produces.

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<v S2>York when we think about going versus being, what's going

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<v S2>on at a heart level there, I know that there's

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<v S2>a grand illusion of salvation for many who go to church.

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<v S2>They've never been in Christ. That's a reality here in America.

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<v S2>And there's other issues of derailed disciples. What's your take?

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<v S2>You've seen it a lot. What's going on in the

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<v S2>pew and in the chair.

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<v S6>Well, my entry into the church was a very unusual one,

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<v S6>but it was very telling. So I grew up as

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<v S6>an atheist. We were homeless on the streets of Detroit.

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<v S6>We had a sign on the front of our home

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<v S6>when we weren't homeless the moors, the atheists. We had

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<v S6>a barrel for burning Bibles. I was not raised in

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<v S6>the church. I had a radical come to Jesus born

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<v S6>again experience while I was a university student at the

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<v S6>University of Michigan, and I started attending church in my

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<v S6>20s for the first time. And what I experienced was

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<v S6>initially just a set of confusing feelings and observations as

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<v S6>I watched many Christians, not all, but many Christians, believing

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<v S6>that they were on mission and following Jesus simply because

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<v S6>they could check the Nicene Creed, or they attended church

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<v S6>and tithed, or those kinds of things. But again, there,

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<v S6>Monday through Sunday, faith wasn't really integrated, right? So they

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<v S6>had this idea that following Jesus was really about attending

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<v S6>a church service. And when you look at the difference

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<v S6>between somebody who's truly on mission, where Jesus is the

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<v S6>Lord over every square inch of their lives, qualitatively there's

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<v S6>no comparison. So when Jesus calls us to be disciples,

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<v S6>that's what he's talking about. He's talking about. Yes. It's important.

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<v S6>Don't neglect the gathering of yourselves together, as is the

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<v S6>habit of some. We understand that gathering in the local

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<v S6>church is important. It's a command, in my opinion. It's

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<v S6>where the life of a believer should be lived out.

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<v S6>But it's in the going that we actually are formed

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<v S6>into disciples. So I tend to think of the church

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<v S6>service on a Sunday morning as not necessarily just a

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<v S6>pit stop. It's where I go to connect with other

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<v S6>people who have made this commitment to be on mission

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<v S6>for the rest of the week, and for the rest

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<v S6>of their lives with Jesus.

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<v S2>What's the sticking point? What's got people stuck? My conviction

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<v S2>as a pastor here in Chicagoland is that there's hints

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<v S2>of want to, but then they run up against barriers.

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<v S2>What are those barriers to move from nominal Christianity into

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<v S2>being a disciple of Christ? Carl, I'm.

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<v S6>Going to say something that I hope doesn't offend you

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<v S6>or offend other pastors who might be listening, but I

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<v S6>think the problem is really us. It's Christian leaders. We've

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<v S6>built this metric of success that revolves largely around how

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<v S6>many butts are in the seat, how many baptisms are

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<v S6>in the building. And we, unfortunately, I think, have drank

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<v S6>a little bit of our own Kool-Aid. And we've given

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<v S6>the church largely this idea that success looks like growing

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<v S6>numbers in the building, growing, giving units, growing baptisms. All

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<v S6>of that's good. Don't hear me wrong. I want as

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<v S6>many people in the building as I possibly can get,

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<v S6>but at the end of the day, it's about how

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<v S6>many of those people are actually leaving that building and

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<v S6>going into all of life with this passion and this

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<v S6>mission to join Jesus in making all things new, not just,

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<v S6>you know, having a devotional each morning, which is important.

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<v S6>I had mine this morning in Second Kings. It's not

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<v S6>just praying over a meal. All of that's important, but

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<v S6>we should actually be measuring the success of the local

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<v S6>church by how many people are actually leaving those doors

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<v S6>after a Sunday service, committed to living every square inch

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<v S6>of their lives as a form and expression of worship

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<v S6>and devotion to Jesus York.

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<v S2>This is so right on. This is so right on.

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<v S2>And it hits hard. And I've been on this journey.

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<v S2>The primary metric in most churches is how much money

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<v S2>is given and how many people are attending. You're right.

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<v S2>It's butts and bucks and yeah, we can do better

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<v S2>coming up here in a moment, I want you boom

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<v S2>crew to get York Moors vantage point. What he's seeing

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<v S2>the transforming of college students. What can we learn from

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<v S2>what God is doing on college campuses, and how does

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<v S2>that translate to you and me? I know, let that

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<v S2>boiling want to build right now. God wants to meet

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<v S2>you there today.

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<v S1>She was trying to earn her way to God, but

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<v S1>God showed her she didn't have to. Ali is in

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<v S1>the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>With me right now is York Moore. Our York Moore.

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<v S2>It's fascinating because you're doing some great work on college

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<v S2>campuses and you're seeing young people and we're hearing stories.

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<v S2>Ohio State, UCLA, if I'm not mistaken, campuses across the country.

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<v S2>Tell us what you're seeing and what can we learn?

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<v S2>Many people here who you're speaking to today are not

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<v S2>in that age bracket any longer. What can we learn?

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<v S6>Well, I think the number one thing people need to

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<v S6>hear is God's not dead and God's not finished with

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<v S6>this generation. God is very much alive and at work

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<v S6>on our college campuses. We tend to look at the

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<v S6>rioting and the protests, whether it's a Palestinians or over

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<v S6>sexual identity. You know, our college campuses are hotbeds of

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<v S6>of activity very much reminiscent of the 60s, early 70s.

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<v S6>It's very, very different. Carl. What we're actually seeing is

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<v S6>that the largest generation in American history, Gen Z, the

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<v S6>largest unaffiliated generation in all of American history. Gen Z's largely, uh,

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<v S6>non-affiliated when it comes to any religious affiliation, but 84%

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<v S6>of Gen Z are open to talking about Jesus and

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<v S6>the gospel. They're looking for transformative community. They are hoping

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<v S6>for mentoring relationships with an adult. We call that discipleship.

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<v S6>This is an opportunity like we've never seen before. I've

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<v S6>been in college ministry now for 30 years, 27 years

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<v S6>as the national evangelist with a ministry called InterVarsity Christian Fellowship,

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<v S6>and now the president of the coalition for Christian Outreach.

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<v S6>And I've never seen the amount of openness in this

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<v S6>generation like what we're seeing right now. We'll have thousands

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<v S6>come every February to downtown Pittsburgh for a conference we

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<v S6>call Jubilee, and we're discipling students into machine learning and

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<v S6>algorithms and botany and agriculture and IT 72 seminar or seminars, rather,

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<v S6>workshops that are all geared toward integrating faith into work.

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<v S6>But we see hundreds of people coming to faith at

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<v S6>this conference, and this is just one of many, many conferences.

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<v S6>We know every single college campus in America. We know

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<v S6>who is ministering on those campuses and across the country.

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<v S6>You've mentioned UCLA, you've mentioned Ohio State. The list could

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<v S6>go on and on and on. We're seeing a move

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<v S6>of God on the college campuses like we've never seen before.

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<v S6>And many of us, myself included, we believe that this

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<v S6>is the beginning of a wave of spiritual activity that's

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<v S6>actually going to accelerate. And that's exciting. God is at work.

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<v S6>He's moving in power. Students are responding to the gospel.

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<v S2>Are York more with me right now? So how should

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<v S2>we then live? What the average person listening right now,

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<v S2>I think we got to get a fuel in our belly.

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<v S2>We got some vision for what God is doing and

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<v S2>we need to fill that gap. Because what you alluded

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<v S2>to is a lot of these students, they're only want.

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<v S2>They're only want is someone that can point the way,

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<v S2>what do we do?

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<v S6>Well, let me back it up a little bit to

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<v S6>our conversation we were having about how easy it is

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<v S6>to be lulled into a state of complacency, you know,

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<v S6>in the church where and I'm guilty of this as well.

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<v S6>So I'll just put my cards on the table. It's

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<v S6>very easy to go to church and not be the church.

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<v S6>It's very easy to go to church and sit in

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<v S6>the pew and receive the goods and services to reflect

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<v S6>on it just a bit, just enough, and then to

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<v S6>go home and live our lives basically as functional atheists.

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<v S6>That's how many Christians are living their lives today in America.

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<v S6>It's functionally atheism. You know, we indulge in materialism and

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<v S6>we doomscroll, and we watch just as much Netflix as

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<v S6>the person next to us who doesn't have a relationship

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<v S6>with Jesus. Now don't hear me wrong. There's nothing wrong

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<v S6>with with scrolling on social media. There's nothing wrong with

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<v S6>watching Netflix. But here's the difference. When we who have

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<v S6>the hope of heaven live in a way that's indiscernible

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<v S6>from those people who are on their way to a

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<v S6>crisis eternity. Something is wrong. And my hope and prayer

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<v S6>for myself is that God would give me holy discontent,

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<v S6>that he would give me the unction of the Spirit

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<v S6>of God, a fire in my belly, that I might

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<v S6>not just give in to the easy way of life.

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<v S6>And let's just admit it, it's easier than ever to

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<v S6>live life in 2025. Regardless of what our economic situation is,

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<v S6>there are more things to distract us, to dissuade us

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<v S6>from being passionate followers of Jesus than ever before. Yeah,

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<v S6>and my prayer is that God light a fire in

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<v S6>the belly of the church in North America, that we

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<v S6>would rise up and be the people of God?

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<v S2>Seems that we're going to have to abhor what is

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<v S2>evil in order to cling to what is good. And

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<v S2>I take Paul's words literally. That there's things that we're

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<v S2>going to have to say no to in order to

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<v S2>say yes to the greater good. York I mean, that's discipleship,

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<v S2>isn't it, my friend? I mean, and it's not I'm

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<v S2>not going to watch TV. It could be I'm not

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<v S2>going to watch an extra hour, or I'm not going

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<v S2>to scroll for two hours. When I get down that

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<v S2>rabbit hole, I'm going to set a timer and I'm

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<v S2>going to do 15 minutes, and I'm going to spend

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<v S2>more time in humble consecration in the morning. Five minutes

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<v S2>of that can go so much further than a Netflix

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<v S2>even one hour episode can do, right, York?

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<v S6>Yeah. You know, it's interesting that you bring this up.

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<v S6>I just preached several messages to a couple of different places,

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<v S6>and I think, here's what happens when we actually make

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<v S6>the invitation to follow Jesus about a high and holy calling,

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<v S6>a sacrifice, uh, living as peculiar people and being strangers

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<v S6>in this land. When we make it actually hard, we

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<v S6>call people to something difficult. They take it more seriously.

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<v S6>You know, I think gone are the days where we

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<v S6>give a call to faith when we're calling people to

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<v S6>just give Jesus a try to see the Jesus boost

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<v S6>will make their lives just a little bit better. No,

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<v S6>you know, what I do is I make the Lordship

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<v S6>of Christ high and heavy on the hearts of people

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<v S6>who are hearing the gospel, and I make it difficult

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<v S6>for them to respond. Oftentimes, I'll say, don't come forward

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<v S6>unless you're willing to give every segment of your life

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<v S6>to Jesus. Don't come forward unless you're willing to repent of.

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<v S6>And then I list many of the ways in which

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<v S6>we are living lives of sin and complicity when we

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<v S6>do that. What I've noticed over 30 years of evangelism

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<v S6>is that more people respond more sincerely, and they have

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<v S6>a conversion experience that is authentic and transformative and goes

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<v S6>on to transform the world.

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<v S2>You know, I wonder if we've actually how do I

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<v S2>capture this? Sold. Short. Short. Armed. The real gospel and

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<v S2>people with a watered down gospel might say, well, I've

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<v S2>tried self-help. That doesn't really appeal to me. When if

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<v S2>we put the true gospel before them, you know, humility

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<v S2>isn't the pinnacle of discipleship. It's the gateway to. Unless

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<v S2>a man humbles himself, denies himself, and follows me, you're

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<v S2>not fit for the kingdom of God. Is that call,

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<v S2>that clarion call to renounce oneself not for the sake

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<v S2>of denigrating oneself, but to glorify God and ultimately bring

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<v S2>great joy to yourself. Is that the missing link today, York?

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<v S6>I think it's part of it. I would throw into

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<v S6>this conversation, Carl, the idea of beauty and the the

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<v S6>exalted glory of the Lord. You read sermons from the

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<v S6>great preachers and Spurgeon and and others, and how much

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<v S6>time they spent exalting the Lord, having him high and

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<v S6>lifted up. Yeah, we've reduced oftentimes the gospel in Jesus

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<v S6>to some kind of medical, you know, life boost. And

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<v S6>when we actually help people see the glory and the

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<v S6>otherness of God and how he's high and lifted up,

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<v S6>you know, when I preach the gospel, I have this

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<v S6>mental ritual in my mind as if Jesus is actually

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<v S6>sitting right next to me on the stage, and I'm

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<v S6>introducing people for the first time to an actual person

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<v S6>rather than a set of propositional truths. And as I'm

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<v S6>doing that, I myself are caught up in the beauty

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<v S6>and the glory and the weight of his presence. And

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<v S6>people can sense that, you know. Now, that's not a

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<v S6>good formula for building your next megachurch. But at the

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<v S6>same time, when people actually catch a glimpse of the

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<v S6>beauty and the glory of the Exalted one that creates

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<v S6>a qualitatively different kind of convert. A convert who is

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<v S6>enraptured not with their own need for self-help, but enraptured

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<v S6>with the glory of God and His reign and rule

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<v S6>over all of life.

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<v S2>Yeah, you're right on our York Moor. Oh, goodness, brother,

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<v S2>we got to get you back more frequently. This is

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<v S2>exactly what the Lord has been doing in my life now,

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<v S2>for I don't know how long, guys, I don't know,

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<v S2>five years. And it just keeps getting deeper and deeper.

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<v S2>You know the interesting thing? One last word here. You

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<v S2>see this decline into a increased humility on Paul's part.

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<v S2>It's an interesting thing. He calls himself least of the apostles,

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<v S2>then least of the saints. And then finally, in his

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<v S2>final letter to Timothy, he says, I'm the chief of sinners.

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<v S2>Isn't it weird? Isn't it wild that with that growth,

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<v S2>he was more aware of his need for God. You

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<v S2>get the final word on that.

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<v S6>Well, you know, I just actually lost my mom. She

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<v S6>passed away from lung cancer in my arms just a

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<v S6>couple of months ago. Sorry. And I appreciate that. So

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<v S6>I'm I'm feeling the weight of eternity in its nearness

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<v S6>and the reality of our own mortality more than ever.

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<v S6>And I think even though I'm still a young man

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<v S6>by many people's standards, at the age of 55, the

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<v S6>reality is that this life is short and as we

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<v S6>live it, and if we're honest with ourselves, all of

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<v S6>the bravado that comes with our accolades and our accomplishments

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<v S6>of our younger years, we begin to realize, you know what?

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<v S6>Maybe I wasn't so great. Maybe I wasn't so charismatic.

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<v S6>Maybe it was the favor of the Lord that accomplished

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<v S6>these things. And we begin to have a more sober

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<v S6>perspective on who we are and what we've done. At

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<v S6>least that's that's what maturity should look like, right? Oftentimes,

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<v S6>a lot of people get to the end of their

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<v S6>life and they haven't faced that. Paul, I think you're right,

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<v S6>is our great model that as we actually grow closer

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<v S6>to heaven, as that veil gets thinner and thinner, we

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<v S6>have a more sober perspective on who we are and

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<v S6>just how much the grace of the Lord played a

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<v S6>part in making us who we are and helping us

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<v S6>to accomplish the things that we've done for him.

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<v S2>York more, our York more. I want you to come

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<v S2>and grab a link. I know you are going to

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<v S2>flock to this one. Text the word York to our

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<v S2>number right now. York to 800 555, 7898. Great resources here.

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<v S2>Text the word York 800 555 7898.

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<v S1>Do you feel stuck or paralyzed with victory just out

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<v S1>of reach? Here are your questions answered. It's time for ask,

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<v S1>Pastor Carl.

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<v S2>Every Monday, Bottom of the hour tackling your questions and

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<v S2>we'll give you a link. Where to send those in

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<v S2>to me. Keeping your ID confidential here. Grateful for these

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<v S2>questions that are pouring in. And this is a good one.

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<v S2>Pastor Carl, how can we know for sure? When I

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<v S2>meet Jesus face to face that he will say, well done,

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<v S2>good and faithful servant verses I never knew you. The

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<v S2>letter is making reference to two different passages of Scripture.

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<v S2>One is Matthew seven. Depart from me. I never knew you.

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<v S2>And that is indicating that there are people who are

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<v S2>spiritually active. We use this passage often because it helps

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<v S2>reveal an illusion of salvation. People who are preaching in

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<v S2>the name of Jesus, baptizing in the name of Jesus,

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<v S2>casting out demons, doing mighty works in the name of Jesus.

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<v S2>Is it possible to be spiritually active and not be

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<v S2>born again? The answer is yes, that is possible. There's

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<v S2>a lot of people that are busy doing good things,

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<v S2>but have never been connected with Jesus Christ, the good Savior,

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<v S2>and calls him friend. They don't know where they really

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<v S2>stand with God. That is possible. Conversely, you go to

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<v S2>Matthew 25, the passage that this writer is making reference to.

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<v S2>Well done, good and faithful servant. Now that comes out

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<v S2>of the parable of the talents, and it's a story

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<v S2>that's told that the master goes away on a trip,

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<v S2>and he leaves behind four three servants, indicating those that

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<v S2>are presumed to be in Christ. And I'll clarify that

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<v S2>five talents, two talents and one talent. Now, a talent

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<v S2>is a big deal. Guys, this is humongous. One talent

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<v S2>would have been 20 years. One talent would have been

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<v S2>20 years for a working man's wage. Wow. So this

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<v S2>is a big thing. They've been entrusted with a lot,

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<v S2>especially the five talent guy. My goodness, he's got 100

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<v S2>years of runway with the gifts that he's been given.

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<v S2>It's just enormous amount of money. And the metaphor goes

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<v S2>on when Jesus returns, because that's how the metaphor goes.

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<v S2>And by the way, let's be very clear here. This

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<v S2>is speaking of the second coming of Christ. Matthew 25

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<v S2>is dealing with the second coming of Christ. And here's

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<v S2>what is going to happen. Jesus is going to look

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<v S2>to see what we've been given and how we handled it,

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<v S2>for evidence of whether or not we are truly born again.

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<v S2>This is going to be hard for some of you

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<v S2>to hear, but the one talent guy, the story goes,

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<v S2>he buried his talent out of fear for what's going

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<v S2>to happen. The five talent guy invested it. He's given

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<v S2>all that and more. The two talent guy invested it.

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<v S2>He was given all that and more. There's a lot

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<v S2>of debate theologically about what in the world are these talents,

0:25:18.780 --> 0:25:21.540
<v S2>and a lot of times it gets preached as money.

0:25:21.540 --> 0:25:24.660
<v S2>It's not money. It's the totality of all that we've

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<v S2>been given in God. And whether or not we are

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<v S2>leveraging the grace of God in a way that reveals

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<v S2>that we are one of God's kids. Many believe that

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<v S2>one talent person must be a carnal person. I and

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<v S2>many people would agree that it is not. This is

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<v S2>a lost person who thinks they're saved. That kind of

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<v S2>raises the stakes here, doesn't it, guys? Yeah. And by

0:25:53.130 --> 0:25:56.820
<v S2>the way, moody Bible commentary nails that point. The one

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<v S2>talent person is a person with illusion of salvation, and

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<v S2>I think it's best seen by the fact that there

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<v S2>was a fear of the master rather than a confidence

0:26:06.869 --> 0:26:11.010
<v S2>in relationship with the master, so he buried that one. See,

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<v S2>when we come into authentic relationship with Jesus Christ, he says,

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<v S2>I no longer call you servant. I call you friend. See,

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<v S2>our Scripture interprets scripture here. It's a beautiful thing. So

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<v S2>here's something that we need to hit that's going to

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<v S2>help answer this. And then I'm going to give you

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<v S2>a link that is very important in just a moment.

0:26:30.930 --> 0:26:36.090
<v S2>Works are not a means to salvation. What you do

0:26:36.090 --> 0:26:41.280
<v S2>with what you've been given is that's not the deal. James,

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<v S2>the half brother of Jesus, says, faith without works is dead.

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:50.010
<v S2>What does that mean? It means if you claim to

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<v S2>have faith but have no outworking of that, you may

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<v S2>not have faith at all. So the question persists, pastor Carl,

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<v S2>how can I know for sure? When I meet Jesus

0:27:05.850 --> 0:27:08.650
<v S2>face to face that he will say either well done,

0:27:08.650 --> 0:27:11.740
<v S2>good and faithful servant versus I never knew you. Here's

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<v S2>the beauty of the Word of God, and this is

0:27:13.900 --> 0:27:17.379
<v S2>what I want you to hear right now. Scripture is

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<v S2>replete with evidence of what truly born again people do.

0:27:23.530 --> 0:27:27.580
<v S2>They don't do to get they do out of friendship.

0:27:27.970 --> 0:27:33.520
<v S2>There's no longer a master servant kind of analogy going on.

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:39.280
<v S2>It's friend to friend. So those servants, although they were servants,

0:27:39.310 --> 0:27:43.000
<v S2>they had a connection with the master that the one

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<v S2>talent guy didn't have. Baptism is an a public declaration

0:27:53.380 --> 0:27:59.020
<v S2>of an internal transformation, utilizing our lives to the glory

0:27:59.020 --> 0:28:01.570
<v S2>of God and investing the totality of all. He's given

0:28:01.570 --> 0:28:04.929
<v S2>us all the graces of God. It's just a reflection

0:28:04.930 --> 0:28:09.639
<v S2>of us being touched at a heart level by the

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:15.369
<v S2>grace of God. We're no longer enemies of the cross.

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<v S2>We're born again. We've been changed. There's two things I

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<v S2>want to do here right now. I hadn't planned on this,

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<v S2>but there's some of you right now that are cut

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<v S2>to the heart by the Holy Spirit. And you've never

0:28:31.510 --> 0:28:34.720
<v S2>had friendship with God. And today you can have friendship

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:41.590
<v S2>with God. And this is how. Turn around. Repent of

0:28:41.590 --> 0:28:46.720
<v S2>your sin. Hold nothing back. You might have just been

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<v S2>with us here as we were having a conversation with

0:28:48.940 --> 0:28:55.810
<v S2>York Moore. I would be in spiritual malpractice if I

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<v S2>did anything but tell you that you must be born

0:29:00.460 --> 0:29:03.740
<v S2>again to turn away from the broad path onto the

0:29:03.740 --> 0:29:07.550
<v S2>narrow path means that you're giving everything to God. You're

0:29:07.550 --> 0:29:11.300
<v S2>enthralled with his goodness, his grace. And in this moment,

0:29:11.300 --> 0:29:14.180
<v S2>the Holy Spirit is saying, it's you, my friend. You're

0:29:14.210 --> 0:29:16.880
<v S2>the one talent person. But today you can be born

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:19.460
<v S2>again by an act of faith. The cry of your

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<v S2>soul right now. No fancy prayers, just a heart that

0:29:22.730 --> 0:29:27.200
<v S2>is cut deeply. You say, I have not surrendered all

0:29:27.230 --> 0:29:32.870
<v S2>to Jesus, but today I give my life away completely.

0:29:33.020 --> 0:29:36.650
<v S2>Holding nothing back. So let me just ask you right now,

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<v S2>do you believe today as never before, that Jesus died

0:29:41.150 --> 0:29:47.090
<v S2>for your sins? And that out of that recognition you're

0:29:47.090 --> 0:29:52.370
<v S2>turning away from your own way and you're going to

0:29:52.370 --> 0:29:55.850
<v S2>follow Jesus and you're holding nothing back. You're not holding

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<v S2>on to your identity, to your money, to your to

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:02.910
<v S2>your position in life, to even holding on to your

0:30:02.910 --> 0:30:08.670
<v S2>insecurities or your pride. You're letting that all go. Today, Jesus,

0:30:08.700 --> 0:30:12.540
<v S2>we'll call you friend. And if that's you right now,

0:30:12.540 --> 0:30:16.530
<v S2>you'd say, that's me, Carl. I just want you to

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<v S2>text new, and we're going to send you a resource

0:30:18.810 --> 0:30:21.090
<v S2>that's going to help you with your first steps with Jesus.

0:30:21.090 --> 0:30:27.510
<v S2>If that's you, just text new to 800 555 7898.

0:30:27.690 --> 0:30:31.470
<v S2>When confronted with passages like Matthew 25 and Matthew seven,

0:30:31.500 --> 0:30:35.010
<v S2>the Holy Spirit can cut down to the bottom and go, kid,

0:30:35.550 --> 0:30:38.729
<v S2>you've been in church, but you've never been in me.

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:41.640
<v S2>You've been trying to live a good life, but you've

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.390
<v S2>you've never realized that. I want to call you friend.

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:48.720
<v S2>We've had an arm's length relationship, but today I want

0:30:48.750 --> 0:30:50.790
<v S2>to give you a hug. If that's you, just text

0:30:50.820 --> 0:30:52.980
<v S2>the word new right now. If today is a day

0:30:52.980 --> 0:30:56.430
<v S2>of faith for you, that you surrender all to Jesus,

0:30:56.460 --> 0:30:59.160
<v S2>knowing he died for your sins and there's no life

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<v S2>apart from him. Text. New right now. Right now to

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<v S2>800 555 7898. This is your day of salvation. This

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<v S2>is your day. This is your day. 65 oh 6506

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<v S2>4955 welcome to the family. This is your day. And

0:31:22.590 --> 0:31:24.630
<v S2>we've got a link that you can click that link.

0:31:24.660 --> 0:31:26.760
<v S2>And there's embedded links in there that are going to

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<v S2>help you in your first steps with Jesus. And we say,

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<v S2>welcome to the family right now. Grateful for every one

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.710
<v S2>of you right now. And it's an overwhelming thing when

0:31:34.710 --> 0:31:37.650
<v S2>you get confronted with the reality of what authentic faith

0:31:37.650 --> 0:31:42.780
<v S2>really is, and you can begin a journey today, that is,

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<v S2>it's never going to be the same again. 6872. Welcome

0:31:46.740 --> 0:31:51.570
<v S2>to the family. And then coming up here in a moment,

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<v S2>I want to offer up a link for many of

0:31:55.290 --> 0:32:02.500
<v S2>you Who have been wondering, how can I know? Because

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<v S2>the question from this great person who sent me this

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<v S2>vulnerable question can be answered when we look at the

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<v S2>totality of Scripture and look at the evidences of those

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:19.600
<v S2>who truly have friendship with God. But we're grateful so

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<v S2>many of you surrender in life to Jesus today never

0:32:23.170 --> 0:32:31.060
<v S2>ceases to amaze me. 4727 08852624 this is serious biz.

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<v S2>And this is here's what's awesome about this. God brought

0:32:34.780 --> 0:32:38.560
<v S2>you here today to allow the Holy Spirit to work

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.170
<v S2>in your life in ways that you never would have imagined,

0:32:41.170 --> 0:32:46.330
<v S2>and it's beautiful. Grateful for you. If today is your

0:32:46.330 --> 0:32:50.110
<v S2>day of surrender before, you've never fully surrendered to Jesus,

0:32:50.110 --> 0:32:53.410
<v S2>but today is your day. Just text new to 800

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<v S2>555 Five, 7898. He no longer calls you servant, but

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<v S2>he calls you friend. Hold nothing back, my friend. Give

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<v S2>it all to Jesus today. Okay. Got a question here.

0:33:09.850 --> 0:33:12.760
<v S2>And boy, did some deep thinking on it. And I'm like, oh,

0:33:12.790 --> 0:33:16.660
<v S2>there's really two answers for this. So hang on. I

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<v S2>want to make sure that we understand this clearly. The

0:33:19.990 --> 0:33:22.840
<v S2>enemy is attacking me with doubt and fear, and I

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:27.400
<v S2>feel like I am losing the battle. First off, it's

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<v S2>not the first time it's ever happened to someone. Thank

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.270
<v S2>you for that little extra mustard of music there, young Thunder,

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<v S2>I appreciate it.

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<v S5>I'm here for you. Yeah?

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<v S2>Yeah, man. Um, this is this is a heartbreaking one

0:33:40.420 --> 0:33:44.050
<v S2>because I, I know this, and I've experienced this. You

0:33:44.050 --> 0:33:47.200
<v S2>get filled with doubt and fear. My goodness. Of course.

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<v S2>Here's what I'm going to say. Something's broken. And there's

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<v S2>two primary things that can possibly be going on. And frankly,

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<v S2>I'm going to start tackling the latter one a whole

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<v S2>lot more than I have in the past. The former

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<v S2>one is something's broken in your thinking, and you've got

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<v S2>to get your thinking aligned with who you are in Christ.

0:34:09.710 --> 0:34:12.440
<v S2>If you've been born again and you find yourself struggling

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:17.540
<v S2>with fear and doubt. My bride, my goodness. She's right

0:34:17.570 --> 0:34:20.000
<v S2>on with this one. I stole it years ago. I

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.219
<v S2>heard her talking to a few ladies and she said,

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<v S2>you got to wallpaper your mind with truth, because what

0:34:25.460 --> 0:34:29.180
<v S2>you are thinking today is going to dictate how you're living.

0:34:29.210 --> 0:34:33.290
<v S2>Fear and doubt can be a direct result of something

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<v S2>being broken, and you need to get your thinking right.

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<v S2>Now we give out this link a lot, but if

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<v S2>you haven't read it in a while or you've never

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:45.380
<v S2>read it, get it because it will retrain your mind, right, Ali? Yes.

0:34:45.410 --> 0:34:46.520
<v S2>We just got to do it. Yeah.

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<v S3>Are you ready for it?

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<v S2>Let's go. Okay.

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<v S3>Text truth to 805 Five five, five, 7898. If you

0:34:53.010 --> 0:34:56.700
<v S3>need some reminders of who you are in Christ, your identity,

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<v S3>what the Word of God says about you. Text truth

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<v S3>T.r.u.t.h to 800 555 7898.

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<v S2>And this might be exactly what God would have for

0:35:07.020 --> 0:35:10.350
<v S2>you today. Just grab this link text truth to 800

0:35:10.380 --> 0:35:14.760
<v S2>555 7898 and let the Word of God soak over

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.940
<v S2>you because something's broken in your thinking. Now I'm using

0:35:17.940 --> 0:35:20.400
<v S2>this broken metaphor because I got to give you Iditarod

0:35:20.730 --> 0:35:24.960
<v S2>illustration here today, because it's kicking off today and my

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:27.510
<v S2>heart is in Alaska today. Sorry about that, but I've

0:35:27.510 --> 0:35:29.880
<v S2>got a couple of friends. I don't know them all anymore,

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.640
<v S2>but Mitch Seavey, who's a 4 or 5 time winner,

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<v S2>check that out for me, man. How many times is

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<v S2>Mitch Seavey won the Iditarod? 4 or 5, something like that.

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<v S2>And he's back in it today. I sent him a

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<v S2>text last night not knowing if he'd even have time

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:45.629
<v S2>to see it. I thought for sure he'd have that

0:35:45.630 --> 0:35:48.719
<v S2>phone turned off trying to get some shut eye, but

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:50.730
<v S2>he sent word back after I told him I was

0:35:50.730 --> 0:35:54.029
<v S2>praying for him one four times. Is that right? Young thunder?

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<v S5>That's correct. One four times.

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<v S2>Yeah. So he's back in it. Here's what happened to me.

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.799
<v S2>I had something broken on the Iditarod. And and this

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<v S2>is my metaphor for for fear and doubt. Uh, on

0:36:05.550 --> 0:36:09.149
<v S2>a dog sled, when the runners that you're standing on

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<v S2>two runners, you know about shoulder length apart when they

0:36:14.430 --> 0:36:16.410
<v S2>sweep up in the front. Right. And the goal of

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:19.590
<v S2>that is to go up and over snow and ice

0:36:19.590 --> 0:36:23.250
<v S2>and berms. They aren't just straight. In fact, they're way

0:36:23.250 --> 0:36:26.880
<v S2>more tipped up than a ski tip because the terrain

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.400
<v S2>is a lot more dicey than anything. You're going to

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:32.670
<v S2>run into skiing on a downhill slope, so there's a

0:36:32.670 --> 0:36:37.500
<v S2>big upturn. Well, I had a broken runner heading into

0:36:37.500 --> 0:36:41.520
<v S2>the village of Golovin. I was about 200 miles from

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.850
<v S2>the finish line and my my runner had broken. I

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:47.920
<v S2>had hit a berm or a stump. Something in the

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:51.520
<v S2>trail just absolutely smash that runner and what it made,

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:54.190
<v S2>what it caused is my right runner to not have

0:36:54.190 --> 0:36:58.390
<v S2>that upturn. It was just this almost nearly a blunt edge.

0:36:58.390 --> 0:37:02.950
<v S2>So I was going along fine and then whammo, I'd

0:37:02.950 --> 0:37:05.680
<v S2>hit something that was a little bit too sharp in

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.680
<v S2>an upturn, and my runner couldn't get over the top

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:11.560
<v S2>of it, so I was having to stand on the

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.260
<v S2>left runner, and if I'd see a bump coming, I'd

0:37:14.260 --> 0:37:16.780
<v S2>pick up the right runner. And I mean, it was

0:37:16.780 --> 0:37:19.210
<v S2>here I am, exhausted, and I'm like, oh, I got

0:37:19.210 --> 0:37:22.900
<v S2>something broken here. Some of you have fear and doubt

0:37:22.900 --> 0:37:26.290
<v S2>because you've got a broken runner that you're standing on.

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:29.710
<v S2>You got a broken runner. And that can be flawed

0:37:29.710 --> 0:37:33.430
<v S2>thinking for sure. But you know what else it can be?

0:37:33.460 --> 0:37:37.239
<v S2>It can be something that has crippled you, that is

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:40.450
<v S2>causing fear and doubt. Sometimes fear and doubt comes in

0:37:40.450 --> 0:37:47.350
<v S2>because we find ourselves missing the mark repetitively in an

0:37:47.350 --> 0:37:50.140
<v S2>area of our life. And when we miss the mark.

0:37:50.170 --> 0:37:55.570
<v S2>It's the term for sin. Nothing deals a blow to

0:37:55.600 --> 0:38:00.670
<v S2>our confidence, and nothing rattles us more than having something

0:38:00.670 --> 0:38:05.500
<v S2>that constantly comes back and defeats us. You with me

0:38:05.500 --> 0:38:09.430
<v S2>on this one, guys? Yeah, it it really can rattle us,

0:38:09.430 --> 0:38:10.210
<v S2>can't it, Ali?

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:14.739
<v S3>And you're. It kind of becomes the the thing that's playing.

0:38:14.770 --> 0:38:17.110
<v S3>Have you ever had like, music that's playing in the

0:38:17.110 --> 0:38:20.350
<v S3>background and you can after a while you don't even

0:38:20.350 --> 0:38:23.560
<v S3>hear it anymore. It becomes kind of the soundtrack that's

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:26.740
<v S3>in the background. But then you're constantly reminded something will

0:38:26.739 --> 0:38:29.350
<v S3>remind you of it. And you just you don't feel

0:38:29.350 --> 0:38:32.200
<v S3>confident in sharing your faith. You don't feel confident in

0:38:32.230 --> 0:38:37.690
<v S3>ministry because you feel like there's this underlying thing that's like, ah.

0:38:38.469 --> 0:38:41.170
<v S2>And it's just there and it haunts you and it

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:45.020
<v S2>taunts you, doesn't it, Ali? Yeah. And then it defeats you.

0:38:45.020 --> 0:38:47.870
<v S2>And then you get fear and doubt. You're like, how

0:38:47.870 --> 0:38:49.879
<v S2>could a child of God do something like this? Well,

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:52.310
<v S2>children of God can do stupid people tricks, I'll tell

0:38:52.310 --> 0:38:53.299
<v S2>you that. Trust me.

0:38:53.330 --> 0:38:55.910
<v S3>Have you read the Bible and read about all the

0:38:55.910 --> 0:38:58.610
<v S3>people who did stupid things?

0:38:58.940 --> 0:39:01.310
<v S2>But God doesn't want to leave you there. And this

0:39:01.310 --> 0:39:04.250
<v S2>is the hope that I have for you. That deep

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:08.150
<v S2>yearning you have to get rid of. Fear and doubt

0:39:08.180 --> 0:39:12.830
<v S2>could be an indication that something's broken and God wants

0:39:12.830 --> 0:39:17.390
<v S2>to heal it. Now, this is this is the other one.

0:39:17.390 --> 0:39:19.340
<v S2>And I'm never going to go back on this. We're

0:39:19.340 --> 0:39:22.850
<v S2>going to keep mentioning this because trying to overcome fear

0:39:22.850 --> 0:39:25.819
<v S2>and doubt, while you've got something broken, a repetitive issue

0:39:25.820 --> 0:39:28.070
<v S2>in your life that keeps kicking your booty. I don't

0:39:28.070 --> 0:39:30.500
<v S2>care if it's gossip. I don't care if it's some

0:39:30.500 --> 0:39:32.779
<v S2>kind of addiction. I don't care if it's something done

0:39:32.780 --> 0:39:35.270
<v S2>in the secret places of your life and no one

0:39:35.270 --> 0:39:38.000
<v S2>knows about it. Or maybe a couple of people do.

0:39:38.210 --> 0:39:42.180
<v S2>Those things are real and they hurt and they ding us, man.

0:39:42.180 --> 0:39:46.860
<v S2>And they rip us off. And here's what we've got.

0:39:46.890 --> 0:39:50.880
<v S2>We've got something really cool this year for sure. For

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.730
<v S2>any gift of any amount. We're sending a book called

0:39:53.730 --> 0:39:58.290
<v S2>Killing Sin Conquer the one thing that is defeating you.

0:39:58.290 --> 0:40:01.680
<v S2>And that defeat is real, and it results oftentimes in

0:40:01.710 --> 0:40:03.960
<v S2>fear and doubt because you're like, oh man, if I

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:06.510
<v S2>can't get victory over this thing, I must be, you know,

0:40:06.540 --> 0:40:10.290
<v S2>who knows? Did I do the unpardonable sin? No, because

0:40:10.290 --> 0:40:12.120
<v S2>you just wanting to get over it shows that you

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:15.450
<v S2>haven't blasphemed the Holy Spirit by denying Jesus Christ. And

0:40:15.450 --> 0:40:18.719
<v S2>that's the only unpardonable sin. So you have not committed it,

0:40:18.750 --> 0:40:23.969
<v S2>my friend. But to conquer fear and doubt, sometimes we

0:40:23.969 --> 0:40:27.779
<v S2>need to just go. God, I got a broken runner

0:40:28.170 --> 0:40:30.360
<v S2>and I'm going along smooth. And then bam! Oh, it

0:40:30.390 --> 0:40:33.300
<v S2>hits me again. And it feels like my whole spiritual

0:40:33.300 --> 0:40:37.890
<v S2>team stops dead in its tracks in the trail. And

0:40:37.890 --> 0:40:41.490
<v S2>we want to give you victory over that. And we're

0:40:41.489 --> 0:40:45.420
<v S2>not in sheer week, but we are in pressure. And

0:40:45.420 --> 0:40:49.680
<v S2>what a cool thing that you can go right now

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:52.710
<v S2>and get some freedom, because some of you, you're resonating

0:40:52.710 --> 0:40:55.170
<v S2>with going, yep, I can read all day long about

0:40:55.170 --> 0:40:57.779
<v S2>who I am in Christ, but my runner's broken and

0:40:57.780 --> 0:41:00.600
<v S2>my problem isn't that I'm not thinking rightly, it's that

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:02.580
<v S2>I'm not living rightly. And I got to get this

0:41:02.580 --> 0:41:04.680
<v S2>squared away right now. Yes.

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:07.049
<v S3>Yeah. And this book, Killing Sin, is going to be

0:41:07.050 --> 0:41:09.510
<v S3>our gift to you for a gift of any amount.

0:41:09.510 --> 0:41:13.080
<v S3>This is pre share. This is during share. They'll even

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:17.040
<v S3>continue this if you give after the live portion is continued.

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:21.630
<v S3>So help me out here. What are we texting. Share here. Yes. Okay.

0:41:21.660 --> 0:41:27.450
<v S3>Text share to 800 555 7898. Text share to 800

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<v S3>555 7898.

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:31.950
<v S2>Yeah. Gift of any amount. It's going to be sent

0:41:31.950 --> 0:41:36.960
<v S2>to you. Broken runners spiritually happen, don't they? Ally?

0:41:36.989 --> 0:41:40.810
<v S3>They do. And it's good to identify it because that's

0:41:40.810 --> 0:41:41.860
<v S3>the first step.

0:41:42.370 --> 0:41:45.880
<v S2>Yeah, it really is. So come and get it. Share

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:48.160
<v S2>hasn't even begun. But you can do it right now.

0:41:48.190 --> 0:41:52.630
<v S2>Text share to 800 555 7898. When you give online.

0:41:52.630 --> 0:41:54.610
<v S2>And that's the best way to do it right now.

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:56.680
<v S2>I don't know if we got people in the call center.

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:58.870
<v S2>You can just give online. Be sure to click the

0:41:58.870 --> 0:42:01.990
<v S2>box that says, I want the book, and we'll get

0:42:01.989 --> 0:42:03.970
<v S2>it out to you. And then and then how cool

0:42:03.969 --> 0:42:06.040
<v S2>is this? You get to take part in helping us

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:09.520
<v S2>reach people with the gospel, and we're helping you fix

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:14.260
<v S2>broken spiritual runners. I mean, this is just a sweet opportunity.

0:42:14.260 --> 0:42:19.480
<v S2>So just text share to 800 555 7898. Give online

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:24.400
<v S2>and click the box. Get killing sin and I'm into

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:27.910
<v S2>fixing runners right Ali? Yes, it's hard to go through

0:42:27.910 --> 0:42:29.469
<v S2>life with a broken runner.

0:42:29.500 --> 0:42:32.530
<v S3>Yeah, I the runner thing. I know I've not done

0:42:32.530 --> 0:42:35.890
<v S3>the the outdoor sports, but but I'm with you on it.

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:39.610
<v S3>I can follow along even though I have it. Text

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:43.000
<v S3>shared 800 555 7898.

0:42:43.030 --> 0:42:46.510
<v S2>Yeah, we're grateful for you guys. Grateful? You know this

0:42:46.510 --> 0:42:48.970
<v S2>issue of fear and doubt, there's a lot of reasons

0:42:48.969 --> 0:42:52.210
<v S2>for it. But two primarily something broken in our life

0:42:52.210 --> 0:42:54.910
<v S2>that continues to haunt us and taunt us, that needs

0:42:54.910 --> 0:42:58.930
<v S2>to be healed and wrong thinking. And we're here to

0:42:58.930 --> 0:43:01.660
<v S2>help you in any way we can. We love you guys.

0:43:01.660 --> 0:43:03.850
<v S2>We really do, don't we? Man, it's so good to

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:07.870
<v S2>connect and hear and and see and hear stories of

0:43:07.870 --> 0:43:12.130
<v S2>transformation and witness God at work in you. And we

0:43:12.130 --> 0:43:14.320
<v S2>just want you to know we love you, man. We

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:17.830
<v S2>love you. And that's from Jesus. Ally, how do people

0:43:17.830 --> 0:43:19.120
<v S2>get questions into me?

0:43:19.150 --> 0:43:21.970
<v S3>Oh great question. Just text pastor if you want to

0:43:21.969 --> 0:43:25.690
<v S3>submit a question for ask Pastor. Pastor Carl text pastor

0:43:25.690 --> 0:43:33.560
<v S3>to 800 555 7898. Pastor to 805 five five 7898. 98.

0:43:33.710 --> 0:43:35.660
<v S3>Just send it. You'll get instructions on how to send

0:43:35.660 --> 0:43:38.390
<v S3>an email, and although Carl sees the email, we keep

0:43:38.390 --> 0:43:40.850
<v S3>your name and information confidential.

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:44.720
<v S2>Yeah. Totally confidential. Oh, I love this question. I gotta

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:47.239
<v S2>quit saying that. Oh, I love this question, but it's

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:52.730
<v S2>so good. Pastor Carl Jesus asked someone if they believe.

0:43:53.150 --> 0:43:56.960
<v S2>They said yes. Help me with my unbelief. Is the

0:43:56.960 --> 0:44:02.270
<v S2>same possible with forgiveness? If I said I forgave someone

0:44:02.270 --> 0:44:05.240
<v S2>but prayed for Jesus to help me with my unforgiveness.

0:44:05.270 --> 0:44:09.050
<v S2>Am I the only one or is this a common problem?

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:12.020
<v S3>Okay, I'm with you on this. I love this question.

0:44:12.469 --> 0:44:15.770
<v S2>We forgive in our heads our minds, but not our hearts.

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:20.120
<v S2>Help me please. Okay, brother. Here we go. That's all

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:22.009
<v S2>I'm going to say, by the way, is it's a brother.

0:44:23.989 --> 0:44:28.219
<v S2>There is a scene in Braveheart that captures the need

0:44:28.219 --> 0:44:31.800
<v S2>to reaffirm forgiveness over and over again. Now you don't

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.530
<v S2>even have to have seen Braveheart, but it's an awesome

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:37.590
<v S2>it's a dude flick all the way. My bride loves

0:44:37.590 --> 0:44:42.779
<v S2>it as well. But William Wallace married a beautiful young lady,

0:44:42.780 --> 0:44:46.739
<v S2>and by marrying her, he swept her up into a

0:44:46.739 --> 0:44:49.830
<v S2>mess that cost her her life in the most horrific way.

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:56.160
<v S2>There's a scene where they're burying the daughter. William Wallace's wife.

0:44:56.370 --> 0:44:59.940
<v S2>William Wallace, his father in law, is standing right behind

0:44:59.940 --> 0:45:06.300
<v S2>him in. William Wallace's father in law reaches out with

0:45:06.300 --> 0:45:11.640
<v S2>his hand and it's shaking, and he wants to grab

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:15.270
<v S2>William Wallace by the back of the neck, and you

0:45:15.270 --> 0:45:21.029
<v S2>can feel it with him. He loves him, but he's ticked.

0:45:21.570 --> 0:45:28.440
<v S2>Marrying this man's man cost his daughter her life, and

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:33.509
<v S2>he's Is hot in the in the music builds in

0:45:33.540 --> 0:45:36.450
<v S2>that hand is shaking and quivering and you wonder, is

0:45:36.450 --> 0:45:39.000
<v S2>he going to grab him and take this guy down?

0:45:39.060 --> 0:45:43.050
<v S2>Is he going to rip his throat out? And the

0:45:43.050 --> 0:45:46.530
<v S2>father reaches reaches closer and his hand is shaking and

0:45:46.530 --> 0:45:50.250
<v S2>quivering and pretty quick. He releases the tension in that

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:55.440
<v S2>hand and he drops it down to his side. That's

0:45:55.440 --> 0:46:01.410
<v S2>how forgiveness is. You can forgive a person today, and

0:46:01.410 --> 0:46:04.890
<v S2>you can have a clenched, quivering fist tomorrow going, I

0:46:04.890 --> 0:46:06.420
<v S2>just want a piece of them.

0:46:07.650 --> 0:46:11.370
<v S3>That's so true. Help my unforgiveness.

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:15.000
<v S2>Yeah. Here's here's the key. And I'm just going to

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:19.109
<v S2>break it down for you. I've had to re forgive

0:46:20.130 --> 0:46:25.980
<v S2>people in a couple of cases over and over again.

0:46:25.980 --> 0:46:32.200
<v S2>And what you're doing is just reaffirming God's providence, his sovereignty,

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:35.080
<v S2>that if there is any right that needs to be

0:46:35.110 --> 0:46:38.980
<v S2>made wrong because it could be in one situation I have,

0:46:38.980 --> 0:46:41.890
<v S2>somebody came and asked for forgiveness and they said, what

0:46:41.890 --> 0:46:44.050
<v S2>can I do to make amends? And I told them

0:46:44.050 --> 0:46:46.810
<v S2>what to do, and they were too cowardly to make amends.

0:46:47.710 --> 0:46:49.900
<v S2>You know what I get in my heart sometimes about

0:46:49.900 --> 0:46:52.600
<v S2>this guy? I get a quivering hand on the back

0:46:52.630 --> 0:46:56.800
<v S2>side of his neck, and I'm like, you know, I

0:46:56.800 --> 0:47:00.190
<v S2>want to rip his throat out. Okay, I'm going to

0:47:00.190 --> 0:47:05.710
<v S2>reaffirm my forgiveness of this brother. Why? Especially when someone

0:47:05.710 --> 0:47:08.259
<v S2>has come to you and asked for forgiveness. It can

0:47:08.260 --> 0:47:12.219
<v S2>be easy to rehearse the pain again and get that

0:47:12.219 --> 0:47:14.560
<v S2>quiver in hand, reaching for a neck. And all I'm

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:16.779
<v S2>telling you is, my friend, let God be God. And

0:47:16.780 --> 0:47:19.390
<v S2>do you have to do it? Sometimes. Multiple times? Yeah.

0:47:19.420 --> 0:47:21.580
<v S2>Take it from your friend Carl. Sometimes you have to

0:47:21.580 --> 0:47:28.450
<v S2>go back there 70 times seven. Saying I forgive you again.

0:47:28.450 --> 0:47:29.830
<v S2>It's hard, isn't it, guys?

0:47:29.830 --> 0:47:34.390
<v S3>It's hard. It's hard as you, you. Your mood can

0:47:34.390 --> 0:47:37.960
<v S3>shift you just thinking about it. Thank you for giving them.

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:41.350
<v S3>And then start to think about what they've done to you.

0:47:42.130 --> 0:47:45.700
<v S2>And my boy. Oh, boy. Yeah it's hard my brides

0:47:45.700 --> 0:47:48.460
<v S2>classic on this one because this guy in our life

0:47:48.460 --> 0:47:50.800
<v S2>and it's no. One in Chicagoland. So don't be freaking

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:53.500
<v S2>out if you think, oh no, is that me? Um.

0:47:53.860 --> 0:47:59.319
<v S2>And no one listening. And my wife's like, is that it?

0:47:59.530 --> 0:48:03.850
<v S2>Is that it? This guy gets to wander back into

0:48:03.850 --> 0:48:07.180
<v S2>our life and he asks you for forgiveness, but he

0:48:07.180 --> 0:48:11.380
<v S2>didn't ask me or the kids, and he affected all

0:48:11.380 --> 0:48:13.180
<v S2>of us. And I'm like, I'm sorry, babe, do you

0:48:13.180 --> 0:48:15.820
<v S2>want me to double back? She goes, no, that's not

0:48:15.850 --> 0:48:18.969
<v S2>what I need you to do, but what are you

0:48:18.969 --> 0:48:20.680
<v S2>going to do? And this is what she says. I'm

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:22.569
<v S2>going to bundle them up and put them back at

0:48:22.570 --> 0:48:25.760
<v S2>the foot of the cross. She gets out wrapping paper,

0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:28.460
<v S2>metaphorically in her mind, and she bundles them up. And

0:48:28.460 --> 0:48:30.440
<v S2>some of these. She doesn't take a lot of time.

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:33.710
<v S2>Packaging don't need a pretty package, but she wraps them

0:48:33.710 --> 0:48:35.360
<v S2>up and puts them right down at the foot of

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:38.450
<v S2>the cross and she goes, all right, God, you take

0:48:38.450 --> 0:48:42.560
<v S2>care of this thing. And the reaffirming of forgiveness is

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:44.660
<v S2>one of the most powerful things you can do today,

0:48:44.660 --> 0:48:48.170
<v S2>because sometimes you've forgiven someone. Sometimes when they've come and

0:48:48.170 --> 0:48:51.560
<v S2>asked for forgiveness and you're like, I've got the.

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:54.529
<v S7>Quivering hand around the back of their neck and I

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:56.300
<v S7>just get a piece of them, God.

0:48:56.300 --> 0:48:59.990
<v S2>And he says, leave room for me. I got this.

0:49:00.620 --> 0:49:06.710
<v S2>Is it hard? Shoot, yeah. It's hard. I've found that

0:49:06.710 --> 0:49:09.140
<v S2>every time I've waded in and grabbed a scruff of

0:49:09.140 --> 0:49:14.810
<v S2>the neck, it never ends well anyway. Let God be God.

0:49:15.710 --> 0:49:20.210
<v S2>William Wallace, father in law. Did he have the right

0:49:20.210 --> 0:49:27.210
<v S2>to be angry? Yep. Did he have the responsibility to

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:30.840
<v S2>take it into his own hands to set wrongs right? Now,

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:34.020
<v S2>he realized in that moment. What's that going to do?

0:49:34.860 --> 0:49:39.120
<v S2>It's going to exhaust me, complicate things, make what is

0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:46.440
<v S2>bad worse. You got to quivering hand out today, metaphorically.

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:48.870
<v S2>And you're like, man, I just want a piece of him. Carl,

0:49:48.870 --> 0:49:51.240
<v S2>I'm telling you. Set down your hand and bundle them

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:52.920
<v S2>up and put them at the foot of the cross.

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:55.560
<v S2>God can deal this with this thing far better than

0:49:55.560 --> 0:50:02.670
<v S2>you can. It's that easy. And it's that hard. So

0:50:02.670 --> 0:50:08.399
<v S2>do we need to forgive? Shoot. Yeah. Many times.

0:50:08.430 --> 0:50:11.520
<v S3>And asking for help. Because it's impossible to do in

0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:14.100
<v S3>our own strength. That's a really good prayer.

0:50:14.489 --> 0:50:18.510
<v S2>Yeah, it really is. And so you might need to

0:50:18.540 --> 0:50:23.940
<v S2>say something like, God, I'm reaffirming today the forgiveness that

0:50:23.940 --> 0:50:33.300
<v S2>I afforded this person. Would you help my unforgiveness? And

0:50:33.300 --> 0:50:35.850
<v S2>if you listen closely, you'll hear his voice crying out

0:50:35.850 --> 0:50:38.850
<v S2>to you, saying, I got you, kid. I got you.

0:50:39.090 --> 0:50:42.000
<v S2>Want to get your questions in to me right now?

0:50:42.030 --> 0:50:50.880
<v S3>Just text pastor to 800 555 7898. Text pastor to (800) 555-7898.

0:50:51.300 --> 0:50:55.590
<v S2>Yeah. Grateful for that honest vulnerability on all your parts

0:50:55.590 --> 0:50:57.240
<v S2>that are sending in questions.

0:50:57.300 --> 0:51:00.180
<v S1>You can take him out of Alaska, but you can't

0:51:00.180 --> 0:51:04.140
<v S1>take Alaska out of him. Carl is in the crew.

0:51:04.170 --> 0:51:07.140
<v S1>It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:10.140
<v S2>Yeah, we haven't talked forgiveness in a long while. That

0:51:10.140 --> 0:51:13.140
<v S2>just felt like the right moment, man. Someone needed it.

0:51:13.230 --> 0:51:17.790
<v S2>Someone needed it. Maybe as much as I did. You

0:51:17.790 --> 0:51:19.750
<v S2>know what's great about these questions that I get to

0:51:19.780 --> 0:51:25.029
<v S2>Pastor Carl? They are so I can relate to every

0:51:25.030 --> 0:51:27.190
<v S2>one of these. Well, most of them. I mean, some

0:51:27.190 --> 0:51:31.089
<v S2>of these things are some of these things are incredibly painful.

0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:36.250
<v S2>Next Monday I'm going to tackle a really tough one.

0:51:36.790 --> 0:51:42.550
<v S2>I really tough one woman had a marriage of many years,

0:51:42.580 --> 0:51:45.610
<v S2>and the dude left and hooked up with a gal

0:51:45.610 --> 0:51:52.569
<v S2>17 years his junior, and she's like, ah, I want

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:55.480
<v S2>a piece of this guy. I don't blame you. I

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:58.600
<v S2>don't blame you. What we're going to tackle those can't

0:51:58.600 --> 0:52:00.760
<v S2>get to all of them. And I try to collapse

0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:03.430
<v S2>some of these together when they're common topics. But man,

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<v S2>grateful for all these questions. Forgiveness is a big one.

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<v S2>And grabbing up that person after you've forgiven them, you

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<v S2>walk free and you're like, man, thank you. And maybe

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:15.759
<v S2>you had the benefit of that transactional word of forgiveness,

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<v S2>which is someone acknowledging so that you can grant that

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<v S2>to him. And then a week later you're like, I

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<v S2>don't know that we plumbed the depths of that. What

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<v S2>a piece of that guy. We feel we've all felt

0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:34.660
<v S2>that that is so common. It's like, ah, that sucker.

0:52:34.660 --> 0:52:37.989
<v S7>He didn't own every bit of it. That one thing.

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<v S7>Should I go back? Sometimes.

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<v S2>Maybe. Yes. Most often. No. It's just like, let God

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<v S2>deal with it. Leaving room for God can be tough though, right, Ali?

0:52:47.320 --> 0:52:50.560
<v S3>It can, it can. Because in our minds, we want

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<v S3>to we want to be able to kind of get

0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:55.990
<v S3>the retribution. Now we want to see the kind of

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<v S3>the scores settled. But sometimes forgiveness feels so unsatisfying because

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<v S3>it lets them off the hook, but it also lets

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<v S3>us off the hook of carrying that.

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<v S2>It does. It does. You're just dragging that old carcass around, man.

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<v S2>Don't let them hold you back any longer. Let them go. Okay.

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<v S2>Coming up here in a moment. We. Have you ever.

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<v S2>Have you ever witnessed God answer prayer? And you were

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<v S2>right in the kind of the center of that thing,

0:53:27.530 --> 0:53:31.069
<v S2>and you're like, oh my goodness, did my prayer actually

0:53:31.070 --> 0:53:33.920
<v S2>do something? Yeah. Tell you how you can be a

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<v S2>part of that coming up.

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<v S1>She's a choreographer extraordinaire and everything is Greek to her.

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<v S1>Super di is in the crew. It's Carl and crew

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<v S1>on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>Oh, I shared this a little bit ago and I

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<v S2>think all my tears are out of me, so now

0:53:50.270 --> 0:53:53.450
<v S2>I can do it without losing it here. But it

0:53:53.450 --> 0:53:55.910
<v S2>was a little over three years ago. Know quite a

0:53:55.910 --> 0:53:58.070
<v S2>bit over three years ago, three and a half years ago,

0:53:58.100 --> 0:54:00.170
<v S2>that my bride and I were out for a date.

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<v S2>We'd gone to a flick and then we went to

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<v S2>a dinner. We went classic date that night, right? Dinner.

0:54:04.580 --> 0:54:06.980
<v S2>You know, dinner and a movie. Dinner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:54:06.980 --> 0:54:08.960
<v S2>We went classic that night. We don't do that a lot.

0:54:08.989 --> 0:54:12.049
<v S2>But we did it that night and we're sitting down.

0:54:12.090 --> 0:54:14.339
<v S2>We got the entrees, just landed on the table, and

0:54:14.340 --> 0:54:19.319
<v S2>my wife's phone rings and she goes, mhm. It's call

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<v S2>from the doctor. Her doctor said I'll be right back.

0:54:25.860 --> 0:54:31.890
<v S2>She went out into the lobby and she got some

0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:34.049
<v S2>tough news. When a doctor calls you on a Friday

0:54:34.050 --> 0:54:39.060
<v S2>night it ain't it's not usually good guys. And some

0:54:39.090 --> 0:54:42.239
<v S2>tests had been run, some pictures had been taken and

0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:46.200
<v S2>they found a significant mass that turned out to be

0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:54.120
<v S2>ovarian cancer. She comes back to the table and she said,

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<v S2>got some tough news. Doctor wants to talk to you.

0:54:58.500 --> 0:55:01.950
<v S2>She sees me beginning to really kind of lose my bearings.

0:55:01.950 --> 0:55:07.770
<v S2>And she actually says to me, reaches out with her hand,

0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:10.050
<v S2>puts it on me. She actually didn't. I think she

0:55:10.080 --> 0:55:16.230
<v S2>might have just said it's okay. And my goodness guys.

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<v S2>We went into a stretch in our life that was brutal.

0:55:22.590 --> 0:55:26.190
<v S2>Remember standing in the entry to our home? And it

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<v S2>was the only time that I heard my wife, she

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<v S2>she shed one tear. That was it. Through this whole thing,

0:55:33.570 --> 0:55:36.450
<v S2>one tear. And it was right there. And the tear

0:55:36.450 --> 0:55:41.610
<v S2>was coming down her face down to her chin. And

0:55:41.610 --> 0:55:44.880
<v S2>I wiped it away, and I put my arms around her.

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<v S2>And I just called out to God, and I said, God,

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<v S2>I'm asking you to spare my bride. And I rehearsed

0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:57.900
<v S2>his sovereignty and his goodness and his providence and my bride.

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<v S2>And I hugged after I was done praying. And she said,

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<v S2>God's got this, bub. I said, I know he does.

0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:09.370
<v S2>We clung to him, and our story may not be yours.

0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:15.399
<v S2>She was healed. It was confounding to the surgeon. It

0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:22.509
<v S2>was mind blowing. But I had a front row seat.

0:56:22.540 --> 0:56:25.569
<v S2>To this day, she's cancer free. I praise God for that.

0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:32.230
<v S2>We have no guarantees about tomorrow. And I had a

0:56:32.230 --> 0:56:37.810
<v S2>front row seat to watch God answer prayer. Was he good?

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<v S2>Even if it.

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<v S8>Hadn't.

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<v S2>Been the same outcome, yeah, I'd have still had that

0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:46.090
<v S2>front row seat. I just straight up inviting you into

0:56:46.090 --> 0:56:48.370
<v S2>a front row seat. Some of you need a front

0:56:48.370 --> 0:56:51.609
<v S2>row seat to God. Watch God do something. Is it

0:56:51.610 --> 0:56:53.950
<v S2>his will that we would reach as many people as

0:56:53.950 --> 0:56:57.430
<v S2>possible with the gospel? Oh, yeah. It's his will, right? Absolutely.

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<v S3>And so we are inviting you to be a part

0:57:00.070 --> 0:57:03.820
<v S3>of our prayer crew for share what you're doing. Partnering

0:57:03.820 --> 0:57:06.970
<v S3>with us is is a sacred Responsibility. You're not just

0:57:06.969 --> 0:57:09.400
<v S3>praying that we would reach a budget, that we would

0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:13.000
<v S3>have enough money. That's the practical aspect of it. But

0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:15.700
<v S3>you're praying for souls that are linked to those dollars.

0:57:15.700 --> 0:57:19.870
<v S3>You're praying for lives and transformations and families that are

0:57:19.870 --> 0:57:22.870
<v S3>impacted just as you have been, just as I have been.

0:57:22.870 --> 0:57:25.270
<v S3>And so that's what we're inviting you into, to take

0:57:25.300 --> 0:57:28.300
<v S3>a front row seat to be a part of this.

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<v S3>So if you want to grab a 30 minute slot,

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<v S2>From the bottom of our heart. Thank you. Come on in.