1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,960 S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond its cast 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,680 S1: and crew. Come as you are an experienced guide. Overcome 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,440 S1: what seems impossible and live. As you never imagined. Start 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,880 S1: your morning with a laugh. 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,119 S2: Practical from the Bible. Tips and tricks to kill. Not tricks, 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,600 S2: but tips and tricks. 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,400 S3: Tips and tricks to kill. Tips and tricks. 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,400 S1: Delivering the truth daily. 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,280 S4: All of my attempts to, you know, prop myself up 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,760 S4: with achievement in good works. Well, God wasn't impressed by that. 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,239 S4: Even if other people were. 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,040 S2: The gospel changes everything. 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,519 S5: Freedom in Christ. Man, it's like that backpack of cement 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,559 S5: just falling to the ground. 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,920 S1: Now, from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,320 S1: and crew. What a day. 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,480 S6: It feels like a week, and we've just gotten started here. 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:01,780 S6: Phenomenal content. The amount of listener response has been amazing. 19 00:01:02,100 --> 00:01:06,259 S6: This whole week has asked the experts less one hour 20 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:09,020 S6: each day that were jump Start and share. That begins 21 00:01:09,020 --> 00:01:12,660 S6: in earnest next week. Our watermarks $4 million and we're 22 00:01:12,660 --> 00:01:14,899 S6: on our way. It's it's a joy, man. What a 23 00:01:14,900 --> 00:01:17,140 S6: joy to be partnered up with you guys in ministry. 24 00:01:17,140 --> 00:01:22,060 S6: And we really mean that. We've got Who estimates of 25 00:01:22,060 --> 00:01:24,860 S6: close to a million listeners a week here, and there 26 00:01:24,860 --> 00:01:29,340 S6: are so many hungry followers of Jesus. And one of 27 00:01:29,340 --> 00:01:31,339 S6: the reasons you listen to Moody Radio is, you know, 28 00:01:31,380 --> 00:01:33,500 S6: we aren't getting weak in the knees around the gospel. 29 00:01:33,860 --> 00:01:36,179 S6: We're not going to let culture push us off some 30 00:01:36,180 --> 00:01:42,420 S6: of the those core fundamental pillars of faith that keep families, individuals, 31 00:01:42,620 --> 00:01:46,260 S6: even churches, healthy and strong in Christ Jesus. Boy, we 32 00:01:46,300 --> 00:01:49,660 S6: got a roundhouse for you in this hour. Doctor Robert Lewis, 33 00:01:49,940 --> 00:01:54,700 S6: one of my, uh, probably the most transformational mentor of 34 00:01:54,700 --> 00:01:59,200 S6: my life. Truly and leader extraordinaire. Amazing man of God. 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,000 S6: And we're really doing a calling. All men. Now, ladies, 36 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,120 S6: you can listen in when, when I, whenever we call 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,560 S6: men around here. Have you noticed chivalry ain't dead in 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,200 S6: the ladies love to listen. Oh, yeah. 39 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,320 S4: For sure. 40 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,760 S6: And ladies, we're open to getting your questions as well. 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,720 S6: So we want to jump in doctor Robert Louis with 42 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,160 S6: us right now. Robert, how are you this morning? 43 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,240 S7: I'm doing really well, Carl. I've been looking forward to 44 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,480 S7: being with you all today. 45 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,600 S6: Yeah, this is tremendous. So I'm going to give the 46 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,640 S6: floor to Ali since this is calling all men. And 47 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,040 S6: I'm going to let Ali tee it up here. Okay. 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,360 S4: Didn't see that one coming. 49 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,320 S6: I knew I'd throw a curveball. Here. Take it away, Ali. 50 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,640 S4: Doctor Robert Lewis is our guest expert. He's been a 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,000 S4: pastor writer, speaker for more than 40 years. He's the 52 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,240 S4: founder of men's fraternity ministry, developed a three year video curriculum. 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,880 S4: Also founding partner of Better Man. Before we get questions in, 54 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,209 S4: just tell us what. What makes a man a better man? 55 00:03:00,330 --> 00:03:02,889 S7: A man who's a better man, who is one who 56 00:03:02,889 --> 00:03:07,530 S7: finally comes to a place where he has encountered Jesus Christ. 57 00:03:07,970 --> 00:03:11,929 S7: To a place that he is open to hearing what 58 00:03:11,970 --> 00:03:15,730 S7: a man is from his Word. And the good news is, 59 00:03:15,730 --> 00:03:20,450 S7: God declares manhood from the very beginning of Genesis, and 60 00:03:20,450 --> 00:03:24,010 S7: it's clear, it's specific, and it will change your life. 61 00:03:24,010 --> 00:03:26,490 S7: And that's the message that we want to declare today. 62 00:03:27,210 --> 00:03:30,130 S6: You know, one of the big, uh, anchors of a 63 00:03:30,169 --> 00:03:34,610 S6: lot of your teaching has been that men struggle innately 64 00:03:34,770 --> 00:03:39,290 S6: with passivity. Give us a theological background on that problem. 65 00:03:39,290 --> 00:03:41,330 S6: And what can men do about that? 66 00:03:43,890 --> 00:03:47,050 S7: Well, part of part of passivity, Carl, as we've talked 67 00:03:47,050 --> 00:03:53,970 S7: about before, arose with the fall of Man. Uh, it 68 00:03:53,970 --> 00:03:58,670 S7: was part of the collapse of his soul. When Adam 69 00:03:58,670 --> 00:04:01,310 S7: decided to go to his own independent way and God 70 00:04:01,350 --> 00:04:04,790 S7: had had warned him, if you do this, you're going 71 00:04:04,830 --> 00:04:07,790 S7: to die. Now when we hear the word die, we 72 00:04:07,790 --> 00:04:11,630 S7: think of physical death. But physical death was the last 73 00:04:11,630 --> 00:04:15,910 S7: part of death. But the front part of death was 74 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:19,070 S7: that he was going to be alienated from God. He 75 00:04:19,070 --> 00:04:22,390 S7: would have emptiness in his soul. He would be confused 76 00:04:22,390 --> 00:04:26,190 S7: about his life. And that's what you see play out 77 00:04:26,190 --> 00:04:29,349 S7: in in Adam's life when you watch him after he 78 00:04:29,350 --> 00:04:31,950 S7: sinned in the garden. But one of the big things 79 00:04:31,950 --> 00:04:35,710 S7: that stands out is his relationship with his wife. And 80 00:04:35,710 --> 00:04:38,229 S7: one of the things that he demonstrates is not the 81 00:04:38,230 --> 00:04:43,430 S7: courage of leadership. Protective leadership. But after the fall, he 82 00:04:43,870 --> 00:04:47,230 S7: illustrates what would plague man from the very beginning of 83 00:04:47,230 --> 00:04:50,270 S7: the garden until today. And that is when it comes 84 00:04:50,270 --> 00:04:58,330 S7: to responsible things. He just becomes limp, passive. There's no energy. And, um, 85 00:04:58,370 --> 00:05:00,890 S7: that is held men back from the beginning of time. 86 00:05:01,290 --> 00:05:04,930 S4: Doctor Robert Lewis, our guest expert. We are now ready 87 00:05:04,930 --> 00:05:09,210 S4: for your calls. Your texts. Calls. Questions for Doctor Robert Lewis. 88 00:05:09,410 --> 00:05:13,490 S4: Anything on biblical manhood, chivalry, but also discipleship. Another one 89 00:05:13,490 --> 00:05:16,650 S4: of Doctor Lewis's passions. So if you'd like to get 90 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:23,450 S4: those questions in to US 800 555 7898 800 555 91 00:05:23,490 --> 00:05:28,370 S4: 7898 doctor Robert Lewis, you know, I when I think 92 00:05:28,370 --> 00:05:32,890 S4: about what most concerns my son, who's 13 years old, 93 00:05:32,930 --> 00:05:35,290 S4: him and his peers are sort of obsessed right now 94 00:05:35,290 --> 00:05:38,409 S4: with physical growth. So everybody's kind of waiting on their 95 00:05:38,410 --> 00:05:42,130 S4: growth spurt. So it's like every, every first day of 96 00:05:42,130 --> 00:05:44,610 S4: school is like the race to see who who grew 97 00:05:44,650 --> 00:05:48,490 S4: a couple inches inches, who's now taller than the other 98 00:05:48,650 --> 00:05:50,969 S4: and all kind of other things that we won't get 99 00:05:50,970 --> 00:05:53,310 S4: into that boys are comparing. But, you know, when you 100 00:05:53,310 --> 00:05:57,190 S4: think about that, boys from a young age, they want 101 00:05:57,190 --> 00:06:01,190 S4: to project height and strength, and they get an idea 102 00:06:01,190 --> 00:06:04,190 S4: of what it looks like to be a man. But 103 00:06:04,190 --> 00:06:07,669 S4: it's not necessarily a biblical one. Speak to that. 104 00:06:09,630 --> 00:06:11,750 S7: Well, I think it's just natural. As a young man 105 00:06:11,790 --> 00:06:13,750 S7: grows up, he's going to want to see how he's 106 00:06:13,750 --> 00:06:16,870 S7: going to, how he's going to engage his world. And 107 00:06:16,910 --> 00:06:20,630 S7: from his immaturity, the thing to think of first is 108 00:06:20,790 --> 00:06:24,110 S7: physical strength and stature and those kind of things. So 109 00:06:24,110 --> 00:06:27,110 S7: guys are going to measure themselves. But it's also a 110 00:06:27,110 --> 00:06:32,310 S7: sign that he's looking in some ways, help me draft 111 00:06:32,310 --> 00:06:36,229 S7: out what more there is than just the physical. And 112 00:06:36,230 --> 00:06:39,029 S7: so that's the big question young men ask as they're 113 00:06:39,029 --> 00:06:43,630 S7: coming up. And somebody needs to answer it. And in 114 00:06:43,630 --> 00:06:48,510 S7: our day, if dads and the church and some form 115 00:06:48,510 --> 00:06:53,090 S7: of discipleship doesn't answer it, the world is going to 116 00:06:53,089 --> 00:06:57,010 S7: answer it, and it's going to answer it with its superficial, 117 00:06:57,370 --> 00:07:02,970 S7: self oriented. Um, uh, answers. That is going to lead 118 00:07:03,010 --> 00:07:05,730 S7: a young man down, a lot of dead ends that 119 00:07:05,730 --> 00:07:07,890 S7: he'll have to work his way through as he goes 120 00:07:07,890 --> 00:07:11,690 S7: into young adulthood. And now we're in a place in 121 00:07:11,690 --> 00:07:16,450 S7: America where most young men are growing up, what I 122 00:07:16,450 --> 00:07:21,650 S7: call biblically visionless. They don't have a vision for what 123 00:07:21,690 --> 00:07:28,290 S7: real masculinity is. So they're constantly reaching for the superficial. 124 00:07:28,730 --> 00:07:32,210 S7: And when you're a young kid that does just what 125 00:07:32,210 --> 00:07:34,730 S7: you said, you start with physical stature and then you 126 00:07:34,730 --> 00:07:35,530 S7: go from there. 127 00:07:35,690 --> 00:07:38,330 S1: But you can take them out of Alaska, but you 128 00:07:38,330 --> 00:07:43,330 S1: can't take Alaska out of him. Girl is in the crew. Robert, 129 00:07:43,330 --> 00:07:45,530 S1: it seems to me that without a biblical. 130 00:07:45,530 --> 00:07:50,090 S6: Vision for what manhood is, we're left to our own devices. 131 00:07:50,090 --> 00:07:54,060 S6: And this is kind of in a post Judeo-Christian ethic. 132 00:07:54,060 --> 00:07:56,900 S6: We're going to see more and more confusion, are we not? 133 00:07:57,660 --> 00:07:59,660 S7: Well, that's what the Bible says. I mean, the Bible 134 00:07:59,660 --> 00:08:02,820 S7: has a great proverb that says, without a vision, the 135 00:08:02,820 --> 00:08:05,900 S7: people get out of control. If you don't have a 136 00:08:05,900 --> 00:08:10,500 S7: stabilizing vision that you can go to that keeps delivering, 137 00:08:11,220 --> 00:08:16,500 S7: keeps delivering reward, keeps delivering satisfaction, keeps helping you step 138 00:08:16,500 --> 00:08:19,220 S7: up and step beyond what you think you can do 139 00:08:19,420 --> 00:08:23,340 S7: to more noble things. Then you're going to grab onto 140 00:08:23,380 --> 00:08:27,700 S7: anything anybody gives you that says this will satisfy you. 141 00:08:28,020 --> 00:08:31,740 S7: And in a modern world with all the, you know, 142 00:08:31,780 --> 00:08:34,900 S7: the stimulants that we have and all the the inputs 143 00:08:34,900 --> 00:08:36,980 S7: that we have, it seems like we're in a world 144 00:08:36,980 --> 00:08:42,099 S7: where everybody's grasping for everything, but they're not really getting anything. 145 00:08:42,780 --> 00:08:46,340 S6: Yeah. So true. Robert Lewis, our guest, doctor Robert Lewis, 146 00:08:46,660 --> 00:08:49,020 S6: we're going to we've got phone lines wide open right now. 147 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,320 S6: text line as well, and we want everyone to call in. 148 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,040 S6: But I would really love to hear from men as well. 149 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:03,560 S6: 805 55 7898 805 55 7898. We've got a whole 150 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,200 S6: week of ask the experts. We got Robert here with 151 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,240 S6: us for another 50 minutes. We got a party going 152 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:09,600 S6: on here. 153 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:14,800 S4: Ali, get those questions in 805, 55, 78, 98. This 154 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,120 S4: question came in from a wife. So we and this 155 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,000 S4: is fair game because I think some other women asked 156 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,719 S4: the same thing. What are the words exactly? I can 157 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,679 S4: encourage my husband to not be passive. She goes on 158 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,640 S4: to say they're dealing with some issues with one of 159 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,920 S4: their kids. She says he sticks his head in the 160 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,520 S4: sand talking about her husband. I feel like I'm drowning, 161 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,440 S4: trying to handle everything. How can I move him out 162 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,520 S4: of passivity into protecting his family without making him feel, 163 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,160 S4: feel like he's being condemned by his wife? 164 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:51,339 S7: Yeah. That's the that's the age old question I get 165 00:09:51,380 --> 00:09:54,740 S7: asked all the time, and my answer's still the same. 166 00:09:55,059 --> 00:09:57,580 S7: And that is a wife who's trying to direct. Her 167 00:09:57,580 --> 00:10:01,700 S7: husband will get anything but an active man. He'll just 168 00:10:01,700 --> 00:10:05,620 S7: become more beaten down and withdrawn because he's not going 169 00:10:05,660 --> 00:10:07,980 S7: to respond to a woman telling him what to do. 170 00:10:08,420 --> 00:10:12,540 S7: What he needs is a community of men that he 171 00:10:12,540 --> 00:10:16,260 S7: can be a part of who can challenge him, and 172 00:10:16,260 --> 00:10:20,060 S7: he wants to be more like the leaders of that group. 173 00:10:20,059 --> 00:10:23,660 S7: He wants to. He's hearing truth, good content. But with 174 00:10:23,660 --> 00:10:29,420 S7: masculine community, men grow and become better men. So I 175 00:10:29,420 --> 00:10:32,820 S7: would say over and over again, if there's anything a 176 00:10:32,820 --> 00:10:36,300 S7: woman can do, it's to help encourage her husband to 177 00:10:36,340 --> 00:10:42,980 S7: be with other men and to get into spiritually directed 178 00:10:43,460 --> 00:10:48,600 S7: and instructed environments that he can grow together with other men. Now, 179 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,959 S7: that doesn't mean she can't do anything at all. That's 180 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,160 S7: just not what I'm saying. But what I am saying 181 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,720 S7: is the best. The shortest route between what she wants 182 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,600 S7: her husband to do and that is take responsibility, is 183 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:08,640 S7: get him around men of responsibility. But for her, she 184 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,080 S7: just needs to be an encouragement. Compliment what he does 185 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,679 S7: right and forget about instructing him on what he's doing wrong, 186 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,200 S7: because that's not going to work. 187 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,679 S6: You know, it's you know, you know, here's what's funny, 188 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,800 S6: Robert C you say that and and I think the 189 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,480 S6: I think in this modern world, it sounds like, let's 190 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,840 S6: just cut to the chase. That sounds sexist to even 191 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,520 S6: say that. But you got to grasp reality the way 192 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,320 S6: men and women are wired. And it's not saying you 193 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,980 S6: can't be an encouragement, but there is speaking as a man, 194 00:11:47,340 --> 00:11:51,660 S6: we do, the defenses go up, we stick our head 195 00:11:51,660 --> 00:11:54,540 S6: further in the sand, and it's almost so far down, 196 00:11:54,540 --> 00:11:56,540 S6: it's almost like it's coming out the other end. 197 00:11:59,940 --> 00:12:03,059 S7: Hey, hey, hey, Carl. That's a pretty graphic description. 198 00:12:04,100 --> 00:12:04,820 S3: I didn't mean. 199 00:12:04,820 --> 00:12:06,500 S6: To go there, but boy, did it. 200 00:12:06,780 --> 00:12:07,500 S7: You said that. 201 00:12:07,940 --> 00:12:08,260 S3: Um. 202 00:12:10,580 --> 00:12:17,020 S7: Listen, I'm a woman is described as a helper, and 203 00:12:17,020 --> 00:12:20,620 S7: what she needs to do is interacting with her husband 204 00:12:20,900 --> 00:12:23,140 S7: is to be offering him help. And what a man 205 00:12:23,140 --> 00:12:29,300 S7: most needs from a woman is encouragement. Uh, to tell 206 00:12:29,300 --> 00:12:32,820 S7: him what he's doing well and what he's doing well, 207 00:12:32,860 --> 00:12:35,860 S7: to say I'm proud of you for doing that. But 208 00:12:35,860 --> 00:12:40,900 S7: where there's gaps and holes and wounds and passivity, she 209 00:12:40,900 --> 00:12:44,320 S7: is not going to be able to come in And 210 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:49,880 S7: rebuild those things. That is for a community of men 211 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,480 S7: and friends to do together. That's where they really grow. 212 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,199 S7: And that's why, you see, when a guy goes to 213 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,360 S7: a men's group, or he gets a guy who pulls 214 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,760 S7: up alongside him and starts building into his life, the 215 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,439 S7: wife is just amazed at all of a sudden her 216 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,920 S7: husband's initiative. The number one thing I hear, the number 217 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,440 S7: one thing I hear from women who go to a 218 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,680 S7: better man group is, what are you doing to my husband? 219 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:21,320 S7: He's getting better. And that's because he's an environment with 220 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,680 S7: men that he wants to be like. His antennas are up. 221 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,719 S7: He's listening. He feels safe with those men, and he 222 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,760 S7: feels like he can come back and win with his 223 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:38,240 S7: wife rather than lose. And that's what we want for men. 224 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,280 S6: Doctor Robert Lewis, our guest right now. Uh, this is 225 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,130 S6: ask the experts. Week. And we got a full hour 226 00:13:45,130 --> 00:13:50,689 S6: with Robert 800 555 78, 98 men and women alike. 227 00:13:50,690 --> 00:13:53,890 S6: Let's get the tough ones in here. We're tackling them already. 228 00:13:53,929 --> 00:13:59,010 S6: 800 555 7898 Philip in Aurora, what's your question for 229 00:13:59,010 --> 00:14:00,090 S6: Doctor Robert Louis? 230 00:14:01,410 --> 00:14:03,850 S8: Good morning, Doctor Louis. It's such a pleasure and honor 231 00:14:03,850 --> 00:14:07,010 S8: to be on with you. Uh, doctor, I lead a 232 00:14:07,010 --> 00:14:09,809 S8: men's ministry at a pretty good sized church. We have 233 00:14:09,809 --> 00:14:14,090 S8: six campuses here in the Chicago suburbs, and one of 234 00:14:14,090 --> 00:14:17,450 S8: the challenges that we are facing right now is not 235 00:14:17,450 --> 00:14:21,410 S8: just the cultural Christianity that all evangelical churches or all 236 00:14:21,410 --> 00:14:25,570 S8: churches are facing, but that particular campus. We have this 237 00:14:25,730 --> 00:14:31,250 S8: creeping passivity, spiritual passivity among our men where we are 238 00:14:31,250 --> 00:14:35,890 S8: right now in the, uh, middle of our Better Man series. 239 00:14:36,330 --> 00:14:38,730 S8: But we we've got about 500 men at the church, 240 00:14:38,770 --> 00:14:41,870 S8: it seems. But we only get 20 or 25, you know, 241 00:14:41,910 --> 00:14:44,830 S8: to come off once a month and it's just it's 242 00:14:44,830 --> 00:14:50,070 S8: it's yeah, it's it's been it's been frustrating. Um, you know, 243 00:14:50,110 --> 00:14:52,670 S8: we've got a great group, a great core of men 244 00:14:52,710 --> 00:14:56,950 S8: that pray about it, that engage on Sunday mornings. But, uh, 245 00:14:56,950 --> 00:14:59,590 S8: you know, you get that, that fisheye from men when 246 00:14:59,590 --> 00:15:01,870 S8: you ask them, hey, guys, we missed you last Saturday, 247 00:15:02,030 --> 00:15:05,110 S8: you know, can we see you this month? Uh, so 248 00:15:05,470 --> 00:15:08,350 S8: any strategies that you would have, doctor, that could help 249 00:15:08,350 --> 00:15:10,990 S8: us overcome this creeping passivity? 250 00:15:11,750 --> 00:15:15,590 S7: Yeah. Boy, that that I can tell you. There are 251 00:15:15,590 --> 00:15:21,150 S7: lots of churches who have individuals who are trying to 252 00:15:21,190 --> 00:15:24,990 S7: start a men's ministry within the church, uh, and are 253 00:15:24,990 --> 00:15:29,630 S7: not getting necessarily a great turnout. And I always say 254 00:15:29,630 --> 00:15:32,470 S7: when I hear that, that one of the first things 255 00:15:32,470 --> 00:15:37,150 S7: you have to do is see what the pastor's role is. 256 00:15:37,950 --> 00:15:41,930 S7: That doesn't mean that the pastor leads it, but what 257 00:15:41,930 --> 00:15:46,130 S7: he needs to do is for it, promoting it, standing 258 00:15:46,130 --> 00:15:49,410 S7: up front and promoting it. Um, you know, I was 259 00:15:49,410 --> 00:15:52,030 S7: in a church in, in Nashville where they had a 260 00:15:52,030 --> 00:15:56,450 S7: thousand guys coming out to Betterman and sitting at one 261 00:15:56,450 --> 00:16:00,970 S7: of the tables leading a table discussion was the senior pastor. 262 00:16:01,010 --> 00:16:01,890 S9: Oh, there you go. 263 00:16:02,410 --> 00:16:05,490 S7: Now, let me tell you, that said a ton, because 264 00:16:05,490 --> 00:16:08,490 S7: what it was saying is this is important. And then 265 00:16:08,530 --> 00:16:13,170 S7: in front of the church, he would regularly mention things 266 00:16:13,170 --> 00:16:16,570 S7: from the men's ministry or what men were doing or 267 00:16:16,570 --> 00:16:20,770 S7: complimenting the men. You've got to create an environment where 268 00:16:20,770 --> 00:16:24,290 S7: men feel proud to be men. And the first place 269 00:16:24,290 --> 00:16:27,050 S7: you can start with that is for the pastor to 270 00:16:27,090 --> 00:16:31,050 S7: be proclaiming a healthy masculinity. And he can do that 271 00:16:31,050 --> 00:16:34,050 S7: with better men or other materials by defining what a 272 00:16:34,050 --> 00:16:37,370 S7: man is and then teaching on it, or complimenting bring 273 00:16:37,370 --> 00:16:40,510 S7: guys up. Let them share a testimony. But you've got 274 00:16:40,510 --> 00:16:46,310 S7: to have the backing of your leadership across the board. Otherwise, 275 00:16:46,510 --> 00:16:49,350 S7: what you're doing is you're kind of like an outpost 276 00:16:49,390 --> 00:16:53,510 S7: within a congregation trying to get, uh, you know, a little, 277 00:16:53,550 --> 00:16:56,950 S7: a little group started, and, uh, we need we're in 278 00:16:56,950 --> 00:16:59,710 S7: a culture right now that needs to move beyond that. 279 00:17:00,030 --> 00:17:03,550 S7: Pastors need to courageously step up, not necessarily lead. I'm 280 00:17:03,550 --> 00:17:06,510 S7: not trying to give them more responsibility, but what they 281 00:17:06,510 --> 00:17:09,590 S7: have to be is the proclaimer that this is important. 282 00:17:09,630 --> 00:17:12,469 S7: We want you to participate in this. That's that's the 283 00:17:12,470 --> 00:17:17,030 S7: biggest thing I could I could say and then anoint 284 00:17:17,230 --> 00:17:21,590 S7: lay leadership or staff leadership to help lead that ministry 285 00:17:21,590 --> 00:17:25,390 S7: and then, uh, give it your full throated voice from 286 00:17:25,390 --> 00:17:26,109 S7: the pulpit. 287 00:17:26,310 --> 00:17:29,390 S6: Yeah. Not not only can I cheer for that, Robert, 288 00:17:29,390 --> 00:17:32,909 S6: but I saw that in Doctor Robert Lewis. He was 289 00:17:32,910 --> 00:17:36,150 S6: teaching the material on manhood, and then he sat down 290 00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:38,490 S6: in a group that I happened to be in. And 291 00:17:38,490 --> 00:17:43,730 S6: he walked it through with the men participating as we went. Boom! 292 00:17:43,770 --> 00:17:47,409 S6: All I can say is yes and amen. Lead pastors 293 00:17:47,450 --> 00:17:50,969 S6: get behind the men's movement and if you aren't using 294 00:17:50,970 --> 00:17:53,970 S6: better man, you got to get this material. So let's 295 00:17:53,970 --> 00:17:56,889 S6: do a let's do a quick banner ad for this 296 00:17:56,890 --> 00:17:57,930 S6: link here Ali. Yeah. 297 00:17:57,930 --> 00:18:03,170 S4: Just text man to (800) 555-7898. If you want to get 298 00:18:03,170 --> 00:18:06,970 S4: connected to the resources through better man, just text man 299 00:18:06,970 --> 00:18:13,330 S4: to (800) 555-7898. Coming up great question. That came in by text. 300 00:18:13,410 --> 00:18:17,090 S4: What advice guidance can I give my girls when dating 301 00:18:17,130 --> 00:18:21,770 S4: to be aware of the pursuit and behaviors of godly men? Oh, 302 00:18:21,810 --> 00:18:24,090 S4: this is a good one. We're going to throw that 303 00:18:24,090 --> 00:18:26,330 S4: one to Doctor Robert Louis. Coming up, if you've got 304 00:18:26,330 --> 00:18:30,170 S4: a question (800) 555-7898. 305 00:18:31,290 --> 00:18:35,369 S1: Romans eight brought her to Jesus while broadcasting traffic overnight. 306 00:18:35,609 --> 00:18:39,419 S1: Super dye is in the crew. It's curl and crew 307 00:18:39,460 --> 00:18:40,700 S1: on Moody Radio. 308 00:18:40,740 --> 00:18:45,060 S4: We are taking your questions on biblical manhood chivalry with 309 00:18:45,060 --> 00:18:49,420 S4: our guest expert, Doctor Robert Louis from Betterman ministries. Let's 310 00:18:49,420 --> 00:18:52,420 S4: take this one advice. Guidance that I can give my 311 00:18:52,420 --> 00:18:55,740 S4: girls when dating to be aware of the pursuit and 312 00:18:55,740 --> 00:18:59,020 S4: behaviors of a godly man. Before I let Doctor Lewis 313 00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:00,420 S4: answer that one, I want to give you our phone 314 00:19:00,420 --> 00:19:09,740 S4: number to get those questions in (800) 555-7898. (800) 555-7898. Doctor Robert Lewis, 315 00:19:09,940 --> 00:19:13,340 S4: a dad wanting to help his daughters as they enter 316 00:19:13,340 --> 00:19:15,140 S4: into the dating world. First of all, I know that 317 00:19:15,140 --> 00:19:18,179 S4: that's terrifying. But give some advice here. 318 00:19:20,260 --> 00:19:25,460 S7: Well, having had two daughters, I've had that terror. Um, 319 00:19:26,140 --> 00:19:28,740 S7: I think the first thing, the most important thing for 320 00:19:28,740 --> 00:19:31,500 S7: a dad wanting to help his daughter is to look 321 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:35,080 S7: in the mirror and look in the mirror and look 322 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:40,080 S7: at himself and go, how am I modeling a masculinity 323 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:46,240 S7: that my daughters would be attracted to? Uh, that's such 324 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:51,119 S7: an important question because, uh, daughters are naturally going to 325 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,119 S7: be either attracted to dad's masculinity or they're going to 326 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,080 S7: if it's not, if it's not healthy, they're going to 327 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,040 S7: actually go in the opposite direction to get away from it. 328 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,920 S7: So a dad can give his daughter the best protection 329 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,560 S7: by pursuing a great manhood for himself. That'd be the 330 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,800 S7: first thing. Uh, the second thing I think that's healthy 331 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,919 S7: that I did with my girls is just in discussions 332 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,680 S7: around the table, whether it's dinner or whatever, using just 333 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:24,399 S7: real life examples, I would give my daughters a clear 334 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,760 S7: definition of what a man is from the Bible. Uh, 335 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,680 S7: that's that's what our ministry does. We we help young 336 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,300 S7: men in and fundamentals of manhood. That starts with a 337 00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:39,020 S7: definition of manhood from Genesis. But. But if you can't 338 00:20:39,020 --> 00:20:43,220 S7: define manhood, it's hard to see it. And so I 339 00:20:43,220 --> 00:20:46,740 S7: think it's very important that a dad have a definition 340 00:20:46,740 --> 00:20:51,500 S7: of manhood, a biblical definition manhood that from time to time, 341 00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:55,260 S7: just in general conversation, he can reference with his sons 342 00:20:55,260 --> 00:20:59,619 S7: and daughters in conversation. Uh, so that they have a, 343 00:21:00,180 --> 00:21:05,180 S7: a lens through which to see, uh, young men around them. 344 00:21:05,180 --> 00:21:08,220 S7: I think that's very important. And then probably the last thing, 345 00:21:08,260 --> 00:21:10,860 S7: maybe I would say, as a practical application of what 346 00:21:10,859 --> 00:21:14,580 S7: you asked me is, as a dad, I would meet 347 00:21:14,580 --> 00:21:16,940 S7: the young men my daughter dates. 348 00:21:16,980 --> 00:21:17,540 S9: Amen. 349 00:21:17,740 --> 00:21:21,100 S7: They wouldn't be shadows. They would be somebody that I've 350 00:21:21,100 --> 00:21:23,660 S7: looked eye to eye. I'm not talking about, you know, 351 00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:26,780 S7: dressing them down or interviewing them, but I am saying 352 00:21:26,780 --> 00:21:30,300 S7: you meet them so that you can have discussions with 353 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:35,480 S7: your daughter About them. And so a relationship with your 354 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,600 S7: daughter as a dad is important, because you can have 355 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:44,080 S7: those kind of discussions and, and be helpful along the 356 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,040 S7: way of that. Uh, dating life that they're going to 357 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,080 S7: have that's going to have volatility in it, as you know. 358 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,719 S7: But uh, but I think the best place to start 359 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,160 S7: for dad is just look in the mirror and say, 360 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,200 S7: am I am I reflecting a masculinity that my daughter 361 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,399 S7: would want to pursue? 362 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,160 S6: That's so good. Robert, I'm hearing tens of thousands of 363 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,919 S6: men right now, not audibly, but I hear it in 364 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,960 S6: my spirit that are saying, I've screwed up so bad. 365 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,560 S6: Either I've put forward a bad model or I've said 366 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,639 S6: some stupid things. How important is the power of going 367 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,840 S6: to a daughter saying I messed up? I've given you 368 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,240 S6: a bad vision. Just owning it straight up. 369 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,360 S7: Carl, that is such a good question and it's such 370 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,820 S7: a good statement. Uh, one of the things that, uh, 371 00:22:33,580 --> 00:22:38,140 S7: I tell guys all all over the country is it's 372 00:22:38,140 --> 00:22:42,619 S7: important to exercise the power of forgiveness, because one of 373 00:22:42,619 --> 00:22:45,540 S7: the things dads need to know in their daughters hearts 374 00:22:45,540 --> 00:22:49,540 S7: and their sons heart, they want to forgive their dads. 375 00:22:50,580 --> 00:22:54,380 S7: It's instinctive in them. And I don't care how much 376 00:22:54,380 --> 00:22:57,859 S7: you've heard a son or a daughter, they are always 377 00:22:57,859 --> 00:23:01,820 S7: in waiting for the dad who will humble himself and say, 378 00:23:01,820 --> 00:23:06,659 S7: I did this. Will you forgive me? Because they want 379 00:23:06,660 --> 00:23:11,340 S7: to have a relationship with their father. I've had men 40, 380 00:23:11,380 --> 00:23:15,659 S7: 45 years old who are still waiting for a dad 381 00:23:15,660 --> 00:23:19,260 S7: who's 60, 70 to come and say, I messed up 382 00:23:19,260 --> 00:23:22,220 S7: when I divorced your mom, or I messed up when 383 00:23:22,220 --> 00:23:24,979 S7: I did this. Will you forgive me? And here's the 384 00:23:24,980 --> 00:23:30,070 S7: amazing thing. They always forgive them because they want a 385 00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:34,390 S7: relationship with their dad. So as a father, I would 386 00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:37,470 S7: exercise the power of forgiveness a lot. And you can 387 00:23:37,470 --> 00:23:39,550 S7: do it in the little things. Now, when you have 388 00:23:39,550 --> 00:23:42,310 S7: a son or daughter growing up around you, and that 389 00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:46,149 S7: is when you get overly angry or when you say 390 00:23:46,150 --> 00:23:50,270 S7: a bad word or when you overreact to something. Um, 391 00:23:50,869 --> 00:23:55,230 S7: you always have the power of forgiveness on your side. 392 00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:57,830 S7: You just have to humble yourself and use it with 393 00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:58,870 S7: your son or daughter. 394 00:23:59,070 --> 00:24:03,470 S4: Doctor Robert Lewis from Betterman just text man to 800 395 00:24:03,470 --> 00:24:11,590 S4: 555 7898 for more resources. Text man to 800 555 7898. 396 00:24:11,630 --> 00:24:15,350 S4: On this issue of the father figures, this person says, 397 00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:18,510 S4: Dear Robert, I was raised by a very harsh father, 398 00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:22,310 S4: and I've grown up fearful of everything, especially failure. It's 399 00:24:22,350 --> 00:24:24,189 S4: carried over to my marriage and I feel like I 400 00:24:24,190 --> 00:24:26,869 S4: can't be the husband and father God wants me to be. 401 00:24:27,390 --> 00:24:29,010 S4: What advice can you give me? 402 00:24:29,970 --> 00:24:34,370 S7: Yeah. See, that's that's the that's the lingering impact of 403 00:24:34,369 --> 00:24:39,570 S7: a father wound. And, uh, I bet you've got hundreds 404 00:24:39,570 --> 00:24:44,970 S7: and hundreds of listeners whose whose life has been shaped 405 00:24:45,410 --> 00:24:50,370 S7: by something dad did in excess or didn't do and 406 00:24:50,369 --> 00:24:54,850 S7: left a vacuum. And those wounds linger. And the only 407 00:24:54,850 --> 00:24:57,969 S7: way you recover from a wound I found, and we 408 00:24:57,970 --> 00:25:00,689 S7: do this in our ministry, is to be with a 409 00:25:00,690 --> 00:25:03,730 S7: group of other men you feel safe with, and be 410 00:25:03,770 --> 00:25:07,610 S7: able to share your story and share your hurts or 411 00:25:07,609 --> 00:25:12,970 S7: your longings about your dad, and have men speak into that. 412 00:25:13,810 --> 00:25:18,210 S7: And as a group of men have a vision that 413 00:25:18,210 --> 00:25:21,770 S7: they can join together and lead their way out of 414 00:25:21,810 --> 00:25:26,410 S7: that with a new masculinity. But but I would say 415 00:25:26,590 --> 00:25:32,990 S7: manhood tends to calcify if you don't have a place, 416 00:25:33,030 --> 00:25:36,630 S7: a safe place where men can discuss it, take it 417 00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:39,870 S7: apart and put it back together in a biblical way. 418 00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:44,790 S7: But when you have that, you can overcome those wounds 419 00:25:44,790 --> 00:25:49,230 S7: of the past. Whether it's excessive expectation where you feel 420 00:25:49,230 --> 00:25:51,790 S7: like you've never succeed or you're never going to be 421 00:25:51,790 --> 00:25:56,950 S7: good enough, other men working together can help lead you 422 00:25:56,990 --> 00:25:58,310 S7: out of that darkness. 423 00:25:58,910 --> 00:26:02,910 S6: Robert, a even a deeper dive on this. How many 424 00:26:02,910 --> 00:26:08,070 S6: men don't even know what they don't know about what 425 00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:12,310 S6: they missed out on? Until they get a biblical blueprint 426 00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:15,190 S6: for manhood, and then the light bulb goes on. 427 00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:19,869 S7: Uh, Carl, that is a great statement. I think most 428 00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:22,830 S7: young men growing up today are growing up in a 429 00:26:22,830 --> 00:26:30,570 S7: manhood fog. It's undefined. They are just listening to every 430 00:26:30,609 --> 00:26:36,570 S7: day current cultural trends and trying to sail into that. 431 00:26:37,090 --> 00:26:40,690 S7: You know, that particular stream to feel good about themselves. 432 00:26:40,890 --> 00:26:43,010 S7: But it doesn't work. And so I think there are 433 00:26:43,010 --> 00:26:46,369 S7: a lot of guys who just are clueless. A fog 434 00:26:46,369 --> 00:26:49,930 S7: is a great illustration and you go, how do they know? 435 00:26:49,930 --> 00:26:53,530 S7: They don't know. They know. They don't know when life 436 00:26:53,570 --> 00:26:57,170 S7: beats the crap out of them. And that's what's going 437 00:26:57,170 --> 00:27:00,730 S7: to happen. And usually in the midst of that pain 438 00:27:00,770 --> 00:27:04,370 S7: of some kind or another failing with women, failing on 439 00:27:04,369 --> 00:27:08,010 S7: my job, never feeling good enough, uh, getting addicted to 440 00:27:08,050 --> 00:27:12,409 S7: something in the midst of that pain which inevitably comes 441 00:27:12,690 --> 00:27:16,770 S7: as you move into young and middle adulthood, it's going 442 00:27:16,810 --> 00:27:20,410 S7: to come when you do that. If you have if 443 00:27:20,450 --> 00:27:25,070 S7: you have the, the, the, the opportunity to be with 444 00:27:25,109 --> 00:27:28,310 S7: other men and discuss that. And most men don't want 445 00:27:28,350 --> 00:27:30,470 S7: to discuss it because they want to look like they're 446 00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:35,830 S7: doing okay. The big failure of men is to go, 447 00:27:35,869 --> 00:27:38,270 S7: I think I'm doing okay. I'm doing as good as 448 00:27:38,270 --> 00:27:41,510 S7: the other guy. No, no you're not. When the pain 449 00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:45,230 S7: gets strong enough, you've got to say I'm in pain 450 00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:48,270 S7: and discuss it and be honest and humble. But that 451 00:27:48,270 --> 00:27:53,709 S7: is always the way out of your situation, especially if 452 00:27:53,710 --> 00:27:57,390 S7: you're with a good group of other guys talking about manhood. 453 00:27:57,750 --> 00:28:00,150 S7: And I know that may sound to some of the listeners, like, 454 00:28:00,150 --> 00:28:02,470 S7: I've never heard any of this kind of stuff. Well, 455 00:28:02,470 --> 00:28:05,150 S7: let me just put it in a in a concise package. 456 00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:08,390 S7: If you're growing up today and life doesn't seem like 457 00:28:08,390 --> 00:28:11,670 S7: it's going the right way, you need to find a 458 00:28:11,670 --> 00:28:15,190 S7: group of men who want to lead. Lead a life 459 00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:19,830 S7: that's more noble and more defined, hopefully more biblical. And 460 00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:22,430 S7: they're willing to get together and just talk about it. 461 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,640 S7: That step could forever change your life and release you 462 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,200 S7: from life altering wounds that will bite at you until 463 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,040 S7: the grave if you don't deal with it. 464 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,800 S6: Yeah. Robert Lewis is our guest. It is. Ask the 465 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,800 S6: Experts week. We have another half hour, but I want 466 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,040 S6: to put out a banner ad for all of you 467 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,000 S6: men who would love to have that kind of a 468 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,240 S6: discussion with other men. Text the word man right now 469 00:28:53,240 --> 00:29:01,600 S6: to (800) 555-7898. Just one word man to 800 555 7898. 470 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:08,920 S6: This is where the church changes. No, and I mean that. 471 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,200 S6: I'm not overstating it, am I? Robert? This is where 472 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,760 S6: the church changes is when men step up and understand 473 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,840 S6: who they are in Christ and the wounds that had 474 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,840 S6: them beaten down. This changes the whole structure of a 475 00:29:21,980 --> 00:29:23,620 S6: church for health, does it not? 476 00:29:24,980 --> 00:29:28,100 S7: And Carl, can I add to this just to give 477 00:29:28,140 --> 00:29:30,580 S7: a view of a big picture view of the landscape 478 00:29:30,580 --> 00:29:34,420 S7: of America today in America? And I'm talking all churches 479 00:29:34,420 --> 00:29:39,780 S7: of all different persuasions. Probably 90% of those churches have 480 00:29:39,780 --> 00:29:48,300 S7: some form of ongoing weekly women's meetings and gatherings and interactions. 90% 481 00:29:49,660 --> 00:29:56,740 S7: by comparison, only 7% of churches in America today have 482 00:29:56,740 --> 00:30:01,260 S7: any kind of ongoing regular. And when I say regular, 483 00:30:01,380 --> 00:30:05,340 S7: once a month men's meetings where men get together and 484 00:30:05,340 --> 00:30:09,540 S7: talk about life. And that's why we have the masculine 485 00:30:09,580 --> 00:30:15,060 S7: poverty that we have today. Because without a vision of masculinity, 486 00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:18,940 S7: the Scripture is clear men will just wander around and 487 00:30:18,940 --> 00:30:21,800 S7: get out of control. And when they get out of control, 488 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,880 S7: you know it. Because the opposite of true masculinity is 489 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:32,080 S7: not femininity. The opposite of true masculinity is immaturity. And 490 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,800 S7: that's what we see in men today. 491 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,040 S6: Okay, this is epic. Today we're in our first day 492 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,440 S6: of Ask the experts in just a moment here, I'm 493 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,840 S6: going to get a quick news hit here. Young Thunder 494 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,239 S6: bottom of the hour news hit. And we're going to 495 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,760 S6: go on call in right now. We're going to go 496 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,400 S6: lightning round. Get as many calls as we can right 497 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,360 S6: now 800 555 7898. You can text in your question 498 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:06,360 S6: 800 555 7898. The time is now a man. I'll 499 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,920 S6: tell you, you I feel like I'm back with you 500 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,520 S6: in little Rock, Arkansas. Robert. I got a fuel in 501 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:17,520 S6: my belly that can't be contained. Oh my goodness. Text 502 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,540 S6: man to get this resource and lead pastors, associate pastors, 503 00:31:23,420 --> 00:31:28,660 S6: small group leaders, men who aspire to dare to believe. 504 00:31:28,820 --> 00:31:31,780 S6: Can we see a cultural shift in the churches of 505 00:31:31,780 --> 00:31:37,900 S6: America and beyond? Text. Man to 805, 55, 7898. Couple 506 00:31:37,940 --> 00:31:40,020 S6: quick news hits. What do we have here, young Thunder? 507 00:31:42,820 --> 00:31:46,300 S2: The Middle East, often referred to as a powder keg, 508 00:31:46,340 --> 00:31:50,620 S2: is mired in conflict today. Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Khomeini 509 00:31:50,660 --> 00:31:53,100 S2: is dead. Killed over the weekend in a joint U.S. 510 00:31:53,140 --> 00:31:57,500 S2: Israeli military operation, Iran was quick to hit back, bombarding 511 00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:00,380 S2: the region with retaliatory strikes in a number of countries 512 00:32:00,380 --> 00:32:05,660 S2: including Israel, Dubai, Bahrain, Qatar, Jordan and Kuwait. Three U.S. 513 00:32:05,660 --> 00:32:08,740 S2: service members have been killed in action so far, with 514 00:32:08,740 --> 00:32:11,700 S2: President Trump telling the nations to brace for the possibility 515 00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:15,380 S2: of more casualties to come. There's also confirmation today that 516 00:32:15,380 --> 00:32:18,640 S2: three U.S. Air Force jets have been downed by friendly 517 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,040 S2: fire in Kuwait during combat operations. All of the crew 518 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,080 S2: members were able to safely eject. Thankfully, officials are identifying 519 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,120 S2: the man who killed two people and wounded 14 others 520 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,800 S2: in a mass shooting at a bar in Austin, Texas, 521 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,760 S2: early Sunday in Georgia. Dion was a native of Senegal 522 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,800 S2: and a naturalized citizen. He was wearing a hoodie that 523 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,720 S2: read Property of Allah and wore an Iranian colors when 524 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,080 S2: Austin police shot and killed him. The FBI is investigating 525 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,520 S2: further as to whether the shooting attack was an act 526 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,600 S2: of terrorism directly connected to the conflict in Iran. I'm 527 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,440 S2: Jonathan and that is your update. 528 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,920 S4: Thanks young Thunder. As we go lightning round, I want 529 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,040 S4: to actually combine one question that came in by text 530 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,280 S4: along the lines of a wife who wants to help 531 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,880 S4: motivate her husband to more intentionally kind of disciple their sons. 532 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,920 S4: And then, Sherry, I believe your question is along those 533 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,959 S4: same lines. So go ahead and jump in with your 534 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,680 S4: question for Doctor Robert Louis. 535 00:33:17,650 --> 00:33:21,850 S10: Hi. Good morning guys. Thank you for taking my call. Thanks. Thanks, Carl. Thanks, 536 00:33:21,850 --> 00:33:25,290 S10: Doctor Lewis, for the work and the service you're doing. Um, 537 00:33:25,330 --> 00:33:29,410 S10: right now. Um, yeah. I just wanted to ask, how 538 00:33:29,410 --> 00:33:35,290 S10: can a wife encourage a spouse to find that support, um, 539 00:33:35,610 --> 00:33:39,930 S10: to acknowledge that, um, they've had, like, trauma and not 540 00:33:39,930 --> 00:33:45,210 S10: a proper father figure. And life is more than just 541 00:33:45,210 --> 00:33:48,690 S10: being a provider, very one dimensional. I often, um, my 542 00:33:48,690 --> 00:33:51,530 S10: husband would just ask me just like, well, just tell 543 00:33:51,530 --> 00:33:53,810 S10: me what to do, tell me what to do. And, um, 544 00:33:53,850 --> 00:33:57,570 S10: I've had a very positive, um, father figure in my life, 545 00:33:57,570 --> 00:33:59,810 S10: and I heard you guys echoed so much things that 546 00:33:59,810 --> 00:34:02,450 S10: I've said to my husband. Like, sometimes you don't know 547 00:34:02,450 --> 00:34:04,610 S10: what you don't know. And that can be, you know, 548 00:34:04,610 --> 00:34:07,690 S10: harmful for our children. And it kind of pushes, you know, 549 00:34:07,730 --> 00:34:12,090 S10: I overcompensate for the kids in his absence. And but 550 00:34:12,130 --> 00:34:14,850 S10: I know it's the Holy Spirit that prompts me to call. 551 00:34:14,890 --> 00:34:17,430 S10: Today I was able to hear your program today, and 552 00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:21,109 S10: I'm almost not. I almost never have this opportunity. But 553 00:34:21,150 --> 00:34:23,029 S10: and I was just calling to ask a question and 554 00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:25,270 S10: I got patched in. So I pray a lot about it. 555 00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:28,109 S10: And I trust the Holy Spirit a lot, because my 556 00:34:28,110 --> 00:34:30,589 S10: husband lost his father very young and was separated from 557 00:34:30,590 --> 00:34:33,430 S10: his mother also very young and pretty much raised himself. 558 00:34:33,670 --> 00:34:35,950 S10: So just to get him to acknowledge a lot of that, 559 00:34:35,950 --> 00:34:38,430 S10: it's very fearful for him and he's not very kind 560 00:34:38,430 --> 00:34:41,310 S10: to himself. And like you mentioned, Doctor Lewis, he's not 561 00:34:41,310 --> 00:34:44,790 S10: very kind and forgiving. And, um, their family has a 562 00:34:44,830 --> 00:34:48,830 S10: lot of trauma with like, holding grudges and anger. And, um, 563 00:34:48,830 --> 00:34:51,870 S10: I just feel like he's sometimes still very lost child, and, 564 00:34:52,070 --> 00:34:54,150 S10: you know, that direction to turn to Christ, to know 565 00:34:54,150 --> 00:34:56,509 S10: who he is in Christ is something that he's kind 566 00:34:56,510 --> 00:34:59,270 S10: of grappling with. He does believe with God that his 567 00:34:59,270 --> 00:35:04,029 S10: relationship is very neglected, and he's just primarily been, you know, 568 00:35:04,070 --> 00:35:06,989 S10: indulging in just being a provider for us as a family. 569 00:35:06,989 --> 00:35:10,390 S10: And he does that a fantastic job with that. But, 570 00:35:10,430 --> 00:35:12,390 S10: you know, Jerry, you know, growing up. 571 00:35:12,430 --> 00:35:15,969 S6: Yeah. Sherry. Great question, Robert. What do you say? This 572 00:35:15,969 --> 00:35:17,529 S6: is a cry of a lot of women out there 573 00:35:17,530 --> 00:35:18,009 S6: right now. 574 00:35:18,050 --> 00:35:23,730 S7: Yeah, yeah. Well. Hi, Sherry. Um, the thing that, um. 575 00:35:25,170 --> 00:35:28,129 S7: If I could give you a gift, it would be 576 00:35:28,130 --> 00:35:34,529 S7: the gift of telling your husband what he's good at 577 00:35:34,770 --> 00:35:38,169 S7: and how proud you are of him in that. And 578 00:35:38,170 --> 00:35:41,810 S7: you mentioned that he's a good provider. I would come 579 00:35:41,810 --> 00:35:46,050 S7: up alongside him and put your arm around him and say, honey, 580 00:35:46,090 --> 00:35:50,930 S7: thank you for how you provide for this family. I'm 581 00:35:50,930 --> 00:35:54,850 S7: so appreciative of that. Think of ways in other areas 582 00:35:54,850 --> 00:35:57,810 S7: you can do things like that where you become his 583 00:35:57,810 --> 00:36:02,770 S7: chief cheerleader because you'll win his confidence if you cheer. 584 00:36:03,770 --> 00:36:05,489 S7: The second thing I would do is you're not going 585 00:36:05,530 --> 00:36:08,730 S7: to fix your husband. Your husband is going to have 586 00:36:08,730 --> 00:36:14,150 S7: to find environments with men that he can help himself 587 00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:19,030 S7: get fixed by being more responsible about his condition. But 588 00:36:19,070 --> 00:36:21,430 S7: he'll only learn that if he's with some men that 589 00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:25,230 S7: he admires. So the big prayer request, and I know 590 00:36:25,790 --> 00:36:28,069 S7: a lot of the women listening to this, it kind 591 00:36:28,110 --> 00:36:32,390 S7: of puts them on the edge of faith, uh, in 592 00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:36,350 S7: a more severe way, because rather than doing something, they've 593 00:36:36,350 --> 00:36:38,350 S7: got to pray for something. And what you've got to 594 00:36:38,350 --> 00:36:43,669 S7: pray for is an environment, another man or men that 595 00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:47,550 S7: your husband can associate with that I call empowering friends 596 00:36:47,870 --> 00:36:51,310 S7: who want to be a community of men that pursue 597 00:36:51,590 --> 00:36:56,670 S7: biblical manhood. You've got to pray for that moment. It 598 00:36:56,670 --> 00:36:58,910 S7: could be, like I said, one guy, or going to 599 00:36:59,310 --> 00:37:03,270 S7: a church and hearing about some group and just leaning 600 00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:05,670 S7: over and say, honey, you ought to try that sometime. 601 00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:11,390 S7: But not coach him, but just encouraging. But your job 602 00:37:11,489 --> 00:37:14,569 S7: is just to encourage him in what he does well, 603 00:37:14,770 --> 00:37:22,050 S7: and then occasionally by praying, just maybe nudge him to 604 00:37:22,090 --> 00:37:26,250 S7: another man or men. That would be a great environment, uh, 605 00:37:26,410 --> 00:37:29,490 S7: to help him grow as a man. That's that's the answer. 606 00:37:29,850 --> 00:37:33,009 S7: But that leaves a lot of women saying, can I 607 00:37:33,010 --> 00:37:33,969 S7: do more? Can I do. 608 00:37:33,969 --> 00:37:34,290 S3: More? 609 00:37:34,330 --> 00:37:34,730 S6: Yeah. 610 00:37:35,090 --> 00:37:39,290 S7: You know, you can't. You gotta encourage and just point 611 00:37:39,290 --> 00:37:41,050 S7: your husband to other men. 612 00:37:41,090 --> 00:37:43,610 S6: Robert, here's what I want to spike. I think women 613 00:37:43,610 --> 00:37:48,290 S6: underestimate the power they wield of affirmation. I think it's 614 00:37:48,330 --> 00:37:50,650 S6: way undersold, my friend. 615 00:37:51,210 --> 00:37:56,209 S7: That's right, that's right. You know, the helper. A man 616 00:37:56,210 --> 00:38:00,490 S7: never feels more like a man than when his wife 617 00:38:00,570 --> 00:38:05,610 S7: lovingly pulls alongside of him, looks into his face and says, honey, 618 00:38:05,610 --> 00:38:09,770 S7: I'm proud of you. And then she might stake something specific. 619 00:38:10,140 --> 00:38:12,420 S7: but Carl and I both could say, couldn't we, Carl, 620 00:38:12,620 --> 00:38:16,540 S7: that if Janan and Sharad came up right now and said, Robert, Carl, 621 00:38:16,580 --> 00:38:19,180 S7: I'm proud of you for this. And look, with those 622 00:38:19,180 --> 00:38:23,740 S7: loving eyes, I feel like the biggest man in the world. 623 00:38:23,780 --> 00:38:25,859 S6: Yeah, I can go to. I can go kill a 624 00:38:25,860 --> 00:38:30,700 S6: Goliath today. Yeah, yeah. Instantly. It's so true. Yeah. Young Thunder, 625 00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:31,339 S6: you got a thought? 626 00:38:31,380 --> 00:38:33,339 S2: Yeah. I just wanted to jump in on that as 627 00:38:33,380 --> 00:38:35,739 S2: a as a 30 year old that been married for 628 00:38:35,739 --> 00:38:40,260 S2: seven years. There's my wife. And her words of encouragement 629 00:38:40,540 --> 00:38:44,580 S2: are the thing that then spurs me on to go 630 00:38:44,620 --> 00:38:46,819 S2: be like, I'm gonna go be a really good man 631 00:38:46,860 --> 00:38:49,660 S2: right now, and I'm gonna go talk to some other men. 632 00:38:49,660 --> 00:38:53,339 S2: And so that's been encouraging for me. Is her encouraging 633 00:38:53,340 --> 00:38:57,580 S2: me is actually so helpful. And it's almost like the 634 00:38:57,580 --> 00:39:00,299 S2: spurring on that the that that women are trying to 635 00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:02,420 S2: do sometimes for their men by saying, I want you 636 00:39:02,420 --> 00:39:04,259 S2: to go do this or go do this. Sometimes the 637 00:39:04,260 --> 00:39:06,260 S2: encouragement does that for me. 638 00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:10,200 S7: Yeah it does. It provides an environment where a guy goes, 639 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,399 S7: I'm doing pretty good, I'm doing pretty good. And he'll 640 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,600 S7: then ask a question, how can I even do better? Good. 641 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,120 S7: So my wife will give him more of those comments. 642 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,359 S6: That's why it's called Better Man. Because you want to 643 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,879 S6: know I'm ready for better. Uh, Brad in Chicago. You 644 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,279 S6: got a testimony here. Let's get you in here really quick. 645 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,879 S6: We're going to get as many calls as we can. 646 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,320 S6: What's your question or comment for Robert? 647 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,840 S11: Hey, Robert. Uh, I just wanted to thank you. Pastor 648 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,080 S11: Charles Butler took us through your men's fraternity program years ago. 649 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,080 S11: And I'm an African American man in the city, and 650 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,520 S11: literally one of the guys in my group that did 651 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,399 S11: never knew, his father said after going through it, this 652 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,040 S11: is the father that I never had, and it definitely 653 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,360 S11: helped me with my father wounds, too. Thank you brother. 654 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,240 S6: Thank you brother. 655 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,160 S7: Thank you. 656 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,640 S6: That's a banner ad for. 657 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:04,840 S7: The thousands of times. 658 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,060 S6: Yeah, that's a banner ad. You want to get linked 659 00:40:08,060 --> 00:40:11,220 S6: up with some content that's going to be transformational for men? 660 00:40:11,219 --> 00:40:16,620 S6: Come on men. Text man to 800 555 7898. Text 661 00:40:16,660 --> 00:40:23,100 S6: man to 800 555 7898. Okay, when we get back, 662 00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:26,259 S6: we are going to go lightning round lickety split. To 663 00:40:26,340 --> 00:40:30,100 S6: use my dad's term on some questions. Straight ahead 800 664 00:40:30,260 --> 00:40:33,180 S6: 555 7898. 665 00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:37,540 S1: Walking closer to Jesus every day. You're listening to Carl 666 00:40:37,540 --> 00:40:38,100 S1: and crew. 667 00:40:38,420 --> 00:40:41,780 S6: Oh my goodness, what a day, a whole week. Ask 668 00:40:41,780 --> 00:40:47,980 S6: the experts. Full hour with each guest. Uh, the content 669 00:40:47,980 --> 00:40:51,780 S6: that you are hearing about here today can be accessed 670 00:40:51,780 --> 00:40:58,340 S6: by simply texting the word man to 800 555 7898 671 00:40:58,380 --> 00:41:04,940 S6: 800 555 7898. The response here is absolutely enormous. And 672 00:41:04,940 --> 00:41:08,720 S6: it's going around the globe as we speak. This is tremendous. 673 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,799 S6: Luis in Florida. Quick question for Robert Louis. What do 674 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,560 S6: you say, my man? 675 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,760 S12: Yes. Uh. Good morning. Thank you for your show. Real quick. 676 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,000 S12: I would just listen in the last couple of people 677 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,480 S12: that were speaking, and you guys got affirmation from your 678 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,399 S12: wife and and. Yes, you have done a great job. Uh, 679 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,560 S12: my love for honey. Uh, keep up the good work. 680 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:36,080 S12: What about when you have a wife that has never, 681 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:41,960 S12: ever acknowledged that you're doing the best you can? Uh, 682 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,280 S12: I just became the director of men in church. And 683 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,800 S12: even if I slip a little bit to the side 684 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:49,799 S12: and not do. 685 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,880 S6: I lost you, Luis. Um, okay, here's the essence of it, Robert. 686 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,160 S6: He's got a wife that is not encouraging him. What 687 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,879 S6: do you say to that man? And there's more than 688 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,520 S6: one listening that feels that. 689 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,340 S7: Yeah, Boy, that's that's a tough one for a man, 690 00:42:07,380 --> 00:42:10,620 S7: because that feels like a briar patch to go in 691 00:42:10,620 --> 00:42:15,100 S7: and try to address that. But I would say he 692 00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:18,540 S7: needs to be courageous. That's part of masculinity, by the way, 693 00:42:18,820 --> 00:42:21,819 S7: to be courageous and step in and say, honey, let's 694 00:42:21,820 --> 00:42:27,060 S7: let's go out and talk. And I don't think it's inappropriate. 695 00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:30,060 S7: In fact, I think it's strategic from time to time 696 00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:33,859 S7: for a man who's suffering in his relationship with his 697 00:42:33,860 --> 00:42:37,299 S7: wife to say, honey, I need to talk to you 698 00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:41,660 S7: about this and then express it in the gentlest of ways, 699 00:42:41,660 --> 00:42:44,660 S7: but the most truthful of ways. Uh, you need to 700 00:42:44,660 --> 00:42:47,980 S7: do that and have a conversation. Uh, what takes place 701 00:42:47,980 --> 00:42:50,219 S7: at that point depends on the woman, but you at 702 00:42:50,260 --> 00:42:54,299 S7: least want to help frame up what you're missing and 703 00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:59,020 S7: what you need. You need to express that. And, uh, 704 00:42:59,060 --> 00:43:01,540 S7: then as far as the other thing that we've talked 705 00:43:01,540 --> 00:43:04,560 S7: about for the women, you need to pray that your 706 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,480 S7: wife can be around some godly women in some way, 707 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,960 S7: and maybe a church if you're not involved in a church, 708 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,200 S7: that could help do that, but you could lead in 709 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,960 S7: getting involved in a healthy church, which oftentimes will have 710 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,160 S7: opportunities for women to congregate together and encourage one another. 711 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,680 S6: You know, Robert, we've talked with a lot of men 712 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,600 S6: that suffer from Luis, what he's battling with. It can 713 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,279 S6: feel so lonely except for the fact. And this is 714 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,600 S6: not tongue in cheek or just cheap. We have a 715 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,120 S6: friend in Jesus. That intimacy with God and that identity 716 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,879 S6: that we have in him. Sometimes that has to carry 717 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,239 S6: us through the desert until something else happens. 718 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,640 S7: Yeah. Yeah. 719 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,080 S6: It's important. It's vital. Guys. 720 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,799 S7: It is. It's a tough. It's a tough world for 721 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,520 S7: men when their wives are not helpers. And like you said, 722 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,040 S7: sometimes you just have to turn your face to Jesus 723 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,000 S7: and say, let me continue to love and serve my 724 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,770 S7: wife as best I can. That is the ultimate courage. 725 00:44:03,810 --> 00:44:09,290 S6: Yeah, that's courage, man. That is courage. Oh my goodness. Okay, Ali, uh, 726 00:44:09,330 --> 00:44:11,770 S6: looking at text messages coming in, what are some of 727 00:44:11,770 --> 00:44:13,650 S6: the general themes that we have here? 728 00:44:13,690 --> 00:44:15,730 S4: Well, you know, it's been interesting that we've heard from 729 00:44:15,730 --> 00:44:21,090 S4: so many women today during this segment. And, you know, I, 730 00:44:21,410 --> 00:44:25,690 S4: I speak with I can sympathize because I have erred 731 00:44:25,690 --> 00:44:28,890 S4: in this way of trying to help. And I use 732 00:44:28,890 --> 00:44:34,129 S4: this in air quotes, help my husband by coaching him 733 00:44:34,130 --> 00:44:36,969 S4: and the things that I would love to see him 734 00:44:37,010 --> 00:44:42,050 S4: do differently or and it has been a humbling learning curve, 735 00:44:42,090 --> 00:44:45,170 S4: as I know a lot of my sisters in Christ 736 00:44:45,170 --> 00:44:49,170 S4: are hearing today that that is not providing the help 737 00:44:49,170 --> 00:44:51,810 S4: that we think it is. And I'm I'm glad that 738 00:44:51,810 --> 00:44:55,049 S4: that has come to the forefront because I, I speak 739 00:44:55,050 --> 00:44:58,370 S4: for myself, but also I know other other women we're 740 00:44:58,370 --> 00:45:02,069 S4: trying to help, but we're doing the opposite, because the 741 00:45:02,070 --> 00:45:04,950 S4: voice is not being heard in the way that it's intended. 742 00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:06,430 S3: So you. 743 00:45:06,430 --> 00:45:08,469 S6: Know what? I want to thank you for saying that. 744 00:45:08,710 --> 00:45:09,390 S7: Message you just. 745 00:45:09,390 --> 00:45:14,270 S6: Preached. Yeah. Yeah, it really is. Oh, Robert. 746 00:45:14,590 --> 00:45:16,750 S7: I can, I can I can I say something to 747 00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:19,230 S7: put it in the simplest forms, I was thinking. Yeah. 748 00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:23,270 S7: For the women listening, I think that if you took 749 00:45:23,310 --> 00:45:27,149 S7: what she just said, you need to focus on the 750 00:45:27,150 --> 00:45:32,870 S7: positives and pray for two things for your husband. And 751 00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:36,390 S7: those two things are the essentials to a healthy manhood, 752 00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:40,710 S7: and that is that he gets a biblical community of 753 00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:46,230 S7: friends and that he gets a biblical place where he 754 00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:53,270 S7: can get biblical content on masculinity. But to have biblical content, 755 00:45:53,550 --> 00:45:59,969 S7: biblical masculine content, and biblical community of other men. Those 756 00:45:59,969 --> 00:46:04,450 S7: are the two sweet spots that transform men into better men. 757 00:46:05,170 --> 00:46:10,489 S6: Yeah. Speaking of better man, get this content and I'm 758 00:46:10,489 --> 00:46:14,530 S6: appealing to you. Please get it. Uh, share it and 759 00:46:14,530 --> 00:46:20,210 S6: use it. Text the word man to 800 555 7898. 760 00:46:20,690 --> 00:46:29,130 S6: Text the word man to 800 555 7898. You know, 761 00:46:29,170 --> 00:46:32,930 S6: this is interesting, Robert. We're doing this Ask the Experts 762 00:46:32,930 --> 00:46:35,890 S6: week here, which is. Has this been amazing? Ali. 763 00:46:36,170 --> 00:46:38,090 S4: This has been an incredible morning. 764 00:46:38,730 --> 00:46:41,290 S6: I mean incredible. And by the way, for those of 765 00:46:41,290 --> 00:46:44,049 S6: you listening, going, shoot, I wish I could hear that 766 00:46:44,050 --> 00:46:47,370 S6: again or I want to pass this on or I 767 00:46:47,570 --> 00:46:50,450 S6: just just text the word show. It's going to be 768 00:46:50,450 --> 00:46:52,290 S6: in our show cast. It's going to be a a 769 00:46:52,530 --> 00:46:56,089 S6: sizable show cast, but it's going to be powerful and 770 00:46:56,090 --> 00:47:00,390 S6: we'll have it earmarked with each of the experts, but 771 00:47:00,390 --> 00:47:05,430 S6: text the word show to 805, five, five, 78, 98 772 00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:08,630 S6: or man to get to this content for Robert Louis 773 00:47:08,910 --> 00:47:15,950 S6: better man text man to 800 555 7898. Quick word here, Robert. 774 00:47:15,950 --> 00:47:19,989 S6: We don't need to belabor this, but we're doing share 775 00:47:20,030 --> 00:47:23,030 S6: next week. We're listener supported. And one of the things 776 00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:27,150 S6: that just I'm just fired up about is that where 777 00:47:27,150 --> 00:47:29,790 S6: in the world do you do this stuff? And this 778 00:47:29,830 --> 00:47:34,110 S6: ESPN is not running segments like this. I mean, Stephen 779 00:47:34,110 --> 00:47:36,870 S6: A Smith gets fired up about stuff, but it's not 780 00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:40,590 S6: usually down this lane. Give us your best appeal. Why 781 00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:44,710 S6: every person listening I my you know, we're at like 782 00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:47,350 S6: 6 or 7% of our listeners jump in. And I 783 00:47:47,350 --> 00:47:50,109 S6: know that the problem is we all think somebody else 784 00:47:50,110 --> 00:47:52,950 S6: has got it. But give your appeal for next week 785 00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:55,230 S6: when we go ripping on this thing. Robert. 786 00:47:56,070 --> 00:47:59,130 S7: Yeah, I would just simply say that the Bible always 787 00:47:59,130 --> 00:48:03,090 S7: talks about the power of an apt word, a timely word, 788 00:48:03,530 --> 00:48:07,130 S7: and we live in a world where there's so much 789 00:48:07,130 --> 00:48:10,450 S7: coming at us, we need the truth to break through. 790 00:48:10,930 --> 00:48:13,690 S7: And one of the things I love about what Carl 791 00:48:13,690 --> 00:48:18,049 S7: you do and Moody Radio does, is you provide timely 792 00:48:18,050 --> 00:48:23,009 S7: words that's been vetted through your expertise of what is 793 00:48:23,010 --> 00:48:26,129 S7: really making the difference, good and bad, in our culture. 794 00:48:26,370 --> 00:48:30,290 S7: And you bring it into a spot on radio and 795 00:48:30,290 --> 00:48:34,010 S7: deliver it to listeners that with that one timely word, 796 00:48:34,010 --> 00:48:38,010 S7: can change their life. And you listeners need to know 797 00:48:38,010 --> 00:48:42,450 S7: how how valuable that is to be able to deliver 798 00:48:42,450 --> 00:48:46,770 S7: every day the timely word. And so I would just 799 00:48:46,770 --> 00:48:50,370 S7: simply encourage the listeners that if you want to continue 800 00:48:50,370 --> 00:48:54,450 S7: to assault our culture, culture and enlighten our culture, you'll 801 00:48:54,450 --> 00:48:58,100 S7: get behind those who are providing that timely word. And 802 00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:01,140 S7: I can say Carl and crew does that as good 803 00:49:01,140 --> 00:49:02,300 S7: as anybody I know. 804 00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:05,220 S9: Yeah, it's it's encouraging. 805 00:49:05,860 --> 00:49:11,460 S6: Wow. Ali, what do you. This has been awesome today. 806 00:49:11,739 --> 00:49:13,940 S4: What a privilege. I mean, it's it's sweet to be 807 00:49:13,940 --> 00:49:17,700 S4: reminded through all of these experts and these questions. Man, 808 00:49:17,739 --> 00:49:19,939 S4: this is a powerful thing. We get to do this 809 00:49:19,940 --> 00:49:23,860 S4: platform that we get to steward for this kind of content. 810 00:49:23,860 --> 00:49:24,500 S6: It's humbling. 811 00:49:24,780 --> 00:49:25,739 S4: Very humbling. 812 00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:30,140 S6: Very humbling. Again, we got two spots for you to 813 00:49:30,140 --> 00:49:33,900 S6: go this hour. One is better man. Just text the 814 00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:37,140 S6: word man to our number. And the other is show. 815 00:49:37,140 --> 00:49:39,980 S6: And I'm see, I'm watching this. I'm watching this screen 816 00:49:39,980 --> 00:49:45,820 S6: just absolutely light up. And so text man to 800 817 00:49:45,860 --> 00:49:50,460 S6: 555 7898. Everything that Robert's been talking about today flows 818 00:49:50,460 --> 00:49:53,780 S6: from really his heart. And it's been poured out into 819 00:49:53,780 --> 00:49:58,160 S6: this content. So text man, get that content and use 820 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,399 S6: it in your local church. Get a group of men 821 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,719 S6: together and if you want to hear the show cast, 822 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,799 S6: it's time to subscribe to. By the way, you don't 823 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:14,080 S6: have to keep texting. Show text show to 800 555 7898. 824 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,640 S6: Oh my goodness. Um, Robert is we're so grateful to 825 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,440 S6: have him with us. Um, I mean, look, we're forecasting tomorrow. 826 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,640 S6: We got Sam Storms is going to be with us. 827 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,439 S6: We got Kathy Cook is going to be with us. 828 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,080 S6: Abdu Murray I mean, the beat goes on. That's just tomorrow. Ali. 829 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,160 S4: Yeah. We've got a full lineup on our social media, 830 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,440 S4: on Facebook and Instagram, Carl and crew. So if you 831 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,239 S4: want to see the whole week outline, just check it 832 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,080 S4: out there for today's show cast. Again, just text show 833 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:49,839 S4: to 800 555 7898. Show to 800 555 7898. We'll 834 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,960 S4: have those time stamps to help you find exactly what 835 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:53,920 S4: you're looking for.