WEBVTT - Hour 2: Burning Bible Questions 0:00:09.050 --> 0:00:13.910 Hello, friends. Welcome to the second hour of Open Line 0:00:13.910 --> 0:00:18.920 with Doctor Michael Ridelink Moody Radio's Bible Study Across America. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:23.030 We're talking about your questions about the Bible, God and 0:00:23.030 --> 0:00:25.340 the spiritual life. My name is Michael Ray Dolnick. I'm 0:00:25.340 --> 0:00:29.270 the academic dean and professor of Jewish studies and Bible 0:00:29.270 --> 0:00:33.230 at Moody Bible Institute. We're live sitting around the radio 0:00:33.229 --> 0:00:36.080 kitchen table taking your questions. Time to give me a 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:47.390 call right now. (877) 548-3675. Again. (877) 548-3675. If you can't call, 0:00:47.390 --> 0:00:52.040 just go to our website open Line radio.org. Click on 0:00:52.070 --> 0:00:54.440 Ask Michael a question when you're there and you can 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.480 post your question if you can't get through, or if 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:58.760 you just don't want to make the call, go ahead 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:00.960 and do that and do that. And Tricia will put 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:05.550 your question into the mailbag. Well, I hope you have 0:01:05.550 --> 0:01:08.520 your Bibles open and you have a second cup of coffee, 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.910 because we're ready to talk about the scriptures, and we're 0:01:11.910 --> 0:01:18.000 going to talk with Christina in Clermont, Florida, listening online. 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.490 Welcome to Open Line. Christina. How can I help you? 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.750 Good morning, doctor, and thank you so very much for 0:01:24.750 --> 0:01:29.850 taking my call. I have a question about a scripture 0:01:29.850 --> 0:01:33.240 in revelation two nine, and I think it's also in 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:37.649 chapter three where it says something about the Jews who 0:01:37.650 --> 0:01:40.710 are not Jews, but the synagogue of Satan. Who are 0:01:40.709 --> 0:01:41.760 those people. 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.540 Not Jews, for one thing, you know, the if you 0:01:45.540 --> 0:01:50.250 look at church history, people like John Chrysostom basically tried 0:01:50.250 --> 0:01:54.240 to say that all Jewish people were the synagogue of 0:01:54.240 --> 0:02:00.210 Satan and hated Jewish people because of it. In fact, 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.450 he said, God intended all Christians to hate the Jews. 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.600 I think that is so contrary to what the scriptures say. 0:02:06.630 --> 0:02:12.510 You know, Romans 11 says that Jewish people remain beloved 0:02:12.510 --> 0:02:18.630 and chosen. Romans 1128 and 29, uh, and chosen at 0:02:18.660 --> 0:02:21.690 least for national purposes, not for salvation. As you know, 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:25.290 everyone has to make a personal faith decision, but at 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:31.680 least for national purposes, that God has. And then, you know, 0:02:31.710 --> 0:02:35.220 the Lord Jesus would go and teach in Jewish synagogues. 0:02:35.220 --> 0:02:37.739 Matthew nine talks about he went to all the synagogues 0:02:37.740 --> 0:02:41.730 in Galilee and taught. Do you think the Lord would 0:02:41.730 --> 0:02:45.420 really teach in a something governed by Satan? I don't 0:02:45.419 --> 0:02:48.000 think so. Paul also did the same thing. He went 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.360 throughout the diaspora, went to the synagogues, and preached the 0:02:51.389 --> 0:02:56.730 gospel there first. And so, uh, what is it referring to? 0:02:56.760 --> 0:03:00.280 I think it's talking about false teachers who had been 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:06.550 creeping in, and their false message was that Gentiles needed 0:03:06.550 --> 0:03:11.680 to convert to Judaism before they could believe in Jesus. 0:03:11.710 --> 0:03:16.780 They were adding a legalistic work to Gentile salvation. It's 0:03:16.780 --> 0:03:19.330 what Paul wrote the book of Galatians about. It's what 0:03:19.330 --> 0:03:22.000 the Jerusalem Council was about. But the difference between the 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.630 book of Galatians, which was quite early, and the Jerusalem Council, 0:03:25.630 --> 0:03:30.850 which these things took place in the late 40s in 0:03:31.060 --> 0:03:35.140 Jerusalem and in the first missionary journey and places like that, 0:03:36.430 --> 0:03:41.050 that was predominantly Jewish people who had become followers of 0:03:41.050 --> 0:03:43.960 Jesus but wanted Gentiles to convert. And that's what the 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.690 book of Galatians says. No, no, no, that's not necessary. 0:03:46.690 --> 0:03:49.540 Then you get the Jerusalem Council. But by the time 0:03:49.540 --> 0:03:53.080 you get to the book of Revelation in the 90s, 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:56.570 there were Gentiles who had succumbed to this teaching. They 0:03:56.570 --> 0:04:00.650 themselves had gone through this ceremony and had converted to 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:07.400 Judaism first, and they were trying to convince, uh, others 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:11.000 to other Gentiles to convert to Judaism first. But you 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:14.780 really can't. You're either descendant of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, 0:04:14.780 --> 0:04:17.240 or you're not. They were trying to say, you can. 0:04:17.270 --> 0:04:20.300 If you go through the circumcision process, you can become. 0:04:20.300 --> 0:04:23.330 And so what does the Lord call them in revelation? 0:04:23.330 --> 0:04:28.279 He says, they say they are Jews, but they are not. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:34.220 They're only Gentile converts who were teaching this false, legalistic teaching. 0:04:34.220 --> 0:04:38.450 That's what who he's talking about. It's a legalistic, false 0:04:38.450 --> 0:04:41.510 teaching that has come through into the church. And he says, 0:04:41.510 --> 0:04:44.510 they say they are Jews, but they're not, uh, it's 0:04:44.510 --> 0:04:48.140 a false teaching governed by the enemy. Okay. 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:50.870 Thank you so very much. Can I ask you one 0:04:50.870 --> 0:04:51.890 quick question? 0:04:52.010 --> 0:04:52.730 Yeah. 0:04:53.900 --> 0:04:59.180 As a messianic Jew, you are still cheap. Like the booze, 0:04:59.180 --> 0:05:02.300 the festival of booze and things like that. Do you 0:05:02.300 --> 0:05:04.130 still celebrate those type of things? 0:05:04.370 --> 0:05:06.979 Yeah, I think anyone can celebrate them, but they're not 0:05:07.010 --> 0:05:09.860 obligated to. I celebrate them because it's part of my 0:05:09.860 --> 0:05:12.470 heritage and it's meaningful to me. But the thing I 0:05:12.470 --> 0:05:15.440 always tell everyone when I celebrate a Jewish holiday, I 0:05:15.470 --> 0:05:18.890 celebrate it with Jesus as the fulfillment of it. He 0:05:18.890 --> 0:05:22.789 is the center of my celebration, the object of my worship. 0:05:24.170 --> 0:05:26.479 Oh that's great. Thank you so very much. I appreciate. 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:30.200 It. Okay, sure. Thanks for calling, Christina. We're going to 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:35.750 talk with John in Orlando, Florida, listening on Wcqs. Welcome 0:05:35.750 --> 0:05:37.580 to Open Line. John. How can I help you? 0:05:38.390 --> 0:05:40.940 Thank you. Thank you for taking my call. God bless 0:05:40.940 --> 0:05:44.420 everyone that's listening. Um, I had a question. My pastor 0:05:44.420 --> 0:05:49.730 did a sermon on Matthew 513, uh, last week. And, um, 0:05:50.060 --> 0:05:54.450 I'm a believer, a firm believer that once saved, always saved. 0:05:54.450 --> 0:05:57.720 We can't lose our salvation. We can become carnal Christians, 0:05:57.750 --> 0:06:01.380 of course, but salvation is secure. But the way that 0:06:01.380 --> 0:06:03.990 he was, kind of the way I interpreted, the way 0:06:03.990 --> 0:06:07.710 he was kind of explaining that verse. Um, kind of 0:06:07.740 --> 0:06:10.860 went down the the path that, you know, by that 0:06:10.860 --> 0:06:13.260 being salt. And what happens with salt if it loses 0:06:13.260 --> 0:06:17.039 its flavor? Um, it's, uh, you know, purpose that it's 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.849 good for nothing but to be trodden under foot. And so, 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.880 you know, if he's calling them salt, then it's not 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.430 like they weren't Christian. 0:06:26.460 --> 0:06:26.609 Okay. 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.489 So he's referring to John. 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:31.530 Let me let me see if I understand. You want 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.510 to know what it means? That the Lord Jesus uses 0:06:33.510 --> 0:06:37.979 the phrase, uh, you are the salt of the earth. 0:06:39.060 --> 0:06:40.650 Am I right? That's what you're asking. 0:06:41.070 --> 0:06:44.429 Yeah. That, along with being trodden under feet, if it 0:06:44.430 --> 0:06:46.260 loses its. Yeah. If it loses its. 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:50.520 Yeah, yeah. That's fine. Uh, okay. Let me just start 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.469 by saying that there was no refrigeration in the ancient world, 0:06:53.470 --> 0:06:57.760 and yet people needed to store meat. And what they 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:02.170 did is they would salt it and the salt acted 0:07:02.170 --> 0:07:06.039 as a preservative. Salted meat. Uh, you probably can get 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.159 some of that when you go to the gas station 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.980 and there's a, you know, a meat sticks there that 0:07:12.010 --> 0:07:14.560 when you're paying for your gas or something, I see 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.620 that all the time or go into a little, uh, 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:23.980 a little, uh, Kwik Shop, you know, things like that, uh, 0:07:23.980 --> 0:07:27.640 7-Eleven or something like that. They sell this at the counter. Well, 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.730 that's a lot of meat that that wasn't fresh. If 0:07:30.730 --> 0:07:33.640 they needed it, they had salted meat. And so to 0:07:33.670 --> 0:07:36.910 say you're the salt of the earth means that believers 0:07:36.910 --> 0:07:40.870 are designed to prevent the rottenness, the corruption that is 0:07:40.870 --> 0:07:44.320 in the world. That's what believers in Messiah are supposed 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:51.190 to do. And also we're to provide Righteousness to not 0:07:51.190 --> 0:07:55.240 just stop the bad, the corruption, but advance the good. 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.090 You are the light of the world, he said. Salt 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.760 of the earth, light of the world. One is to 0:08:00.790 --> 0:08:04.090 stop the corruption. The other is to advance the good 0:08:04.090 --> 0:08:06.610 in the world. And then when people will see our 0:08:06.610 --> 0:08:09.489 good works, they'll give thanks to our father who is 0:08:09.490 --> 0:08:12.160 in heaven. And what he says is, if a believer 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.619 is not out there trying to stop the evil in 0:08:14.620 --> 0:08:18.820 the world, using their influence to stop, we like salt 0:08:18.850 --> 0:08:22.180 will back then. You know, salt doesn't really lose its flavor, 0:08:22.180 --> 0:08:25.989 but they didn't have pure salt like we have today. 0:08:26.350 --> 0:08:28.720 What they did is they had minerals that had salt 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.180 in it, and that's what they used to salt meat. 0:08:31.180 --> 0:08:35.229 But over time, as it was stored, the salt would 0:08:35.230 --> 0:08:37.839 drop out of that mineral and they would have all 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.470 these other minerals that didn't, uh, stop the corruption of 0:08:41.470 --> 0:08:44.650 the meat. And what they did with that is they 0:08:44.650 --> 0:08:47.410 would bring it to the, the Temple Mount. And the 0:08:47.410 --> 0:08:49.730 southern steps were are very slick, and when it rained 0:08:49.730 --> 0:08:52.070 in the winter time in Israel, it was very slippery. 0:08:52.070 --> 0:08:54.199 And they would throw that down and it would be 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:59.240 trodden under foot. But it was useless for for stopping 0:08:59.540 --> 0:09:04.189 the corruption of meat. And so what what the Lord 0:09:04.220 --> 0:09:09.560 is saying is, unless we're actively engaged in stopping evil 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:13.939 in this world and advancing the good, we're we're becoming 0:09:13.940 --> 0:09:18.979 pretty useless, not losing our salvation, but we're useless, and 0:09:19.010 --> 0:09:23.540 we're comparable to that salt that's lost its savor. And 0:09:23.540 --> 0:09:29.660 it's just being used underneath, underfoot. That's that's what, uh, 0:09:30.740 --> 0:09:35.540 that's what would be the explanation of that. Okay. 0:09:36.830 --> 0:09:39.350 That was awesome. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Keep 0:09:39.350 --> 0:09:39.770 up the good work. 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.760 Thanks so much, John. Really appreciate it. You know, I 0:09:44.270 --> 0:09:46.550 a lot of people have questions about the Bible. That's 0:09:46.550 --> 0:09:48.870 the basis of this whole program. But one of the 0:09:48.870 --> 0:09:55.350 things that I've really committed to is, uh, that we 0:09:55.620 --> 0:09:58.920 do study on our own. And it's why I worked 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.610 so hard with Michael Van Landingham on the Moody Bible Commentary. 0:10:02.610 --> 0:10:06.900 And now, uh, what we are making available as a 0:10:06.900 --> 0:10:12.660 resource is an excerpt from the Moody Bible Commentary. That 0:10:12.660 --> 0:10:21.150 excerpt is, uh, Galatians. Ephesians. Uh, Colossians. It's it's just 0:10:21.150 --> 0:10:26.820 a great little tool. 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Uh, this is a time for you 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.910 to ask your question. We're talking about the Bible, God 0:11:42.910 --> 0:11:45.130 and the spiritual life. My name is Michael Ray Dolnick. 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.640 You're listening to Open Line. Stay right there. More questions 0:11:48.640 --> 0:12:05.859 coming up. Straight ahead. Stay with us. Welcome back to 0:12:05.890 --> 0:12:08.620 Open Line. I'm so glad to be talking with you, 0:12:08.740 --> 0:12:13.720 hearing your questions, having our Bible study across America. Uh, 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.990 I did again want to mention that it was a 0:12:17.020 --> 0:12:23.380 terrific time. Uh, of course, a very serious issue opposing anti-Semitism. 0:12:23.380 --> 0:12:29.410 The summit last week, though, went wonderfully. Uh, and it 0:12:29.410 --> 0:12:32.470 just was a really great time. People were really motivated. 0:12:32.470 --> 0:12:35.320 And one of the outcomes of that summit was the 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:40.990 formation of the Coalition Against anti-Semitism. And, uh, I'm I'm 0:12:40.990 --> 0:12:44.199 really grateful to God for that. If you're interested in 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:50.560 the Coalition Against anti-Semitism, uh, which is a website that 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:54.070 can you can join, you can get resources from all 0:12:54.070 --> 0:12:56.860 sorts of things that will be helpful. Just go to 0:12:56.890 --> 0:13:05.439 oppose anti-Semitism. No, no spaces, oppose anti-Semitism dot com. And 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.929 it's got that material there. One of my favorite things 0:13:07.929 --> 0:13:11.590 about the summit last week was meeting all the kitchen 0:13:11.590 --> 0:13:15.670 table partners who came from all over the country, Nashville. 0:13:15.850 --> 0:13:23.830 I met people from Kitchen Table Partners, from Florida, from Indianapolis, Cleveland. 0:13:23.860 --> 0:13:30.490 I met Kitchen table Partners from Los Angeles. Uh, and 0:13:30.490 --> 0:13:33.849 also from Spokane. It was just great. So many kitchen 0:13:33.850 --> 0:13:39.220 table partners there who really believe in open line. And 0:13:39.340 --> 0:13:41.710 a lot of people said that they've grown so much 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.180 by studying the Bible together every week. I'm so grateful 0:13:44.179 --> 0:13:46.910 to God for that, and I so appreciate it that 0:13:46.910 --> 0:13:49.580 they they're saying, you know, we want to give monthly 0:13:49.580 --> 0:13:52.190 so you can be on weekly and, and minister to 0:13:52.220 --> 0:13:55.940 these people. And I am so grateful for that partnership 0:13:55.940 --> 0:13:58.010 with these people who are really part of the team. 0:13:58.010 --> 0:14:00.860 That's how we're able to do this. And so if 0:14:00.890 --> 0:14:03.290 you're interested in becoming a kitchen table partner, just know 0:14:03.290 --> 0:14:06.080 that we have a special benefit for you. Every other week, 0:14:06.110 --> 0:14:10.189 Trish and I produce a Bible study moment that you 0:14:10.190 --> 0:14:13.610 get sent and you can open your email, click on it, 0:14:13.610 --> 0:14:16.939 listen to it. Uh, also if if you commit to 0:14:16.970 --> 0:14:21.470 $30 a month or more, you get 50% off the 0:14:21.470 --> 0:14:25.820 Moody Publishers catalog. That's a great benefit. And I think 0:14:25.850 --> 0:14:29.990 that it's it's just a terrific opportunity. And we're really 0:14:29.990 --> 0:14:32.690 grateful to God for everyone that decides to do that. 0:14:32.690 --> 0:14:34.760 If you'd like to become a kitchen table partner, become 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:36.590 part of the team. All you have to do is 0:14:36.590 --> 0:14:45.360 call 712, two or go to open line radio.org. And 0:14:45.750 --> 0:14:48.330 I will tell you one of the funny thing, everyone 0:14:48.330 --> 0:14:53.790 that our emcee at the summit was Doctor William Washington, 0:14:53.820 --> 0:14:59.040 the dean of student life at Moody. And he was 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:03.000 really kind of interesting because he met people and they said, where, 0:15:03.030 --> 0:15:06.060 where Open Line listeners. And that's how we heard about it. 0:15:06.060 --> 0:15:08.610 And that's how he came to the summit. And he 0:15:08.610 --> 0:15:10.650 just looked at him, and he actually would look at 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.020 them and say, are you a kitchen table partner yet? 0:15:13.020 --> 0:15:15.119 And they'd say, no. He says, well, what are you 0:15:15.150 --> 0:15:17.070 waiting for? What are you waiting for? I thought it 0:15:17.070 --> 0:15:19.739 was pretty funny. He has more chutzpah than I do 0:15:19.770 --> 0:15:22.140 to say things like that. I would never, but he 0:15:22.170 --> 0:15:24.660 was telling everyone and that person said, well, I don't know. 0:15:24.660 --> 0:15:27.360 Why not. I'll become a kitchen table partner. It was 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.989 pretty funny, I loved it. So anyway, we're going to 0:15:30.990 --> 0:15:35.520 talk to Patricia in Bridgeview, Illinois, listening on Wmbi. Welcome 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.490 to Open Line. Patricia, how can I help you today? 0:15:39.750 --> 0:15:43.050 Good morning Michael. I am at my kitchen table halfway 0:15:43.050 --> 0:15:46.830 through my second cup of coffee. Um, so I have 0:15:46.830 --> 0:15:51.360 recently heard that many churches and even friends of mine 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:56.070 believe that women are prohibited from being leaders pastors, whether 0:15:56.070 --> 0:16:00.690 that's assistant pastor or youth pastor, um, teachers of the church, 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:04.590 especially when it pertains to, you know, teaching over men. 0:16:04.590 --> 0:16:08.190 I know that this is based on first Timothy 212 0:16:08.190 --> 0:16:14.580 and first Corinthians 1434 through 35. I guess my question is, 0:16:14.580 --> 0:16:17.820 why is it that so many who love God and 0:16:17.820 --> 0:16:22.680 follow and study his words, take those two verses out 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.580 of the context that they were written for their, you know, 0:16:26.610 --> 0:16:29.850 in that culture in that time, the way that Paul 0:16:29.850 --> 0:16:34.260 wrote it and they fit it to, in my opinion, 0:16:34.260 --> 0:16:39.100 the perspective of, you know, manly, manly traditions of our world. 0:16:39.940 --> 0:16:43.420 I guess I'm just trying to get a better understanding. Well. 0:16:43.780 --> 0:16:46.270 First of all, I'm one of those ones that you 0:16:46.270 --> 0:16:50.290 would disagree with. Uh, and, uh, I want to be 0:16:50.290 --> 0:16:53.650 really clear. There are there's a lot in Scripture that 0:16:53.650 --> 0:16:59.350 women should and should do. For example, I think that 0:16:59.350 --> 0:17:03.280 it's okay for women to teach men in a small 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:07.930 group context in a Sunday school class, something that's not 0:17:07.930 --> 0:17:11.859 the authoritative proclamation of the word. Uh, I don't think 0:17:11.859 --> 0:17:17.380 that women should be silent in the church, so to speak. Uh, 0:17:17.380 --> 0:17:21.340 because the word there. Well, first Corinthians 11. That women 0:17:21.580 --> 0:17:25.929 could pray. Uh, and they could also at the time 0:17:25.930 --> 0:17:30.700 when the gift of prophecy was in effect, they could prophesy. 0:17:30.700 --> 0:17:33.070 If you look at First Corinthians 11, because he talks 0:17:33.070 --> 0:17:36.800 about women praying and prophesying, prophesying with their heads covered. 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:43.070 And so obviously it wasn't absolute silence. Uh, Priscilla and 0:17:43.070 --> 0:17:48.290 Aquila in a small group setting, uh, taught Apollos and 0:17:48.290 --> 0:17:51.650 and Priscilla was a woman. So I see variations. I 0:17:51.650 --> 0:17:56.090 also see Timothy as a child, learned the scriptures from 0:17:56.090 --> 0:17:59.179 his mother and his grandmother, according to first and second Timothy. 0:17:59.210 --> 0:18:03.470 So obviously there are lots of places where women can teach. 0:18:03.500 --> 0:18:09.560 Titus two says, uh, I want the older women to 0:18:09.590 --> 0:18:12.530 teach the younger women to love their husbands and various 0:18:12.530 --> 0:18:16.850 other things. So there's a lot of teaching that women 0:18:16.850 --> 0:18:22.670 can and should do. Uh, and what I see in 0:18:22.670 --> 0:18:26.570 first Timothy is, uh, verse 12, I don't allow a 0:18:26.570 --> 0:18:30.050 woman to teach or to have authority over a man. 0:18:30.050 --> 0:18:33.410 That appears to me to be referring to the authoritative 0:18:33.410 --> 0:18:37.400 proclamation that elders do in the local congregation. So when 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:40.639 we gather to worship, there's someone that gets up and, uh, 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.159 today we call him the pastor. But one of the 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:48.080 elders would proclaim the word teach the word in an 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:55.940 authoritative way. Uh, that's that's what Paul is prohibiting. And 0:18:55.970 --> 0:18:58.940 when he says to exercise authority, that means not that 0:18:58.940 --> 0:19:02.900 every man can be an elder, but women were not 0:19:02.900 --> 0:19:06.680 to be one of the elders in the local congregation. Now, 0:19:06.980 --> 0:19:10.970 I understand your view, Patricia, that you're saying, well, that's 0:19:10.970 --> 0:19:12.830 because of the culture of the day. Am I right 0:19:12.830 --> 0:19:14.959 in understanding it that way? 0:19:15.050 --> 0:19:17.720 Yeah. Well, I mean, he was talking to the Ephesians 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:21.170 who were being misled by false teachers and women who 0:19:21.170 --> 0:19:23.930 were uneducated with Scripture. 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.570 Yeah. And so and some people say because of the 0:19:26.570 --> 0:19:29.720 temple of Artemis and the women's role there, Paul is 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:33.290 reacting to that and so forth. Uh. 0:19:33.630 --> 0:19:35.430 However, with, uh. 0:19:36.060 --> 0:19:39.810 Corinthians. Patricia. Patricia. One second, I want you to notice 0:19:39.810 --> 0:19:46.050 something that verses 13 and 14 give the reasons that 0:19:46.050 --> 0:19:53.970 Paul gives this prohibition. Okay. And the and the reason 0:19:53.970 --> 0:19:57.720 is the order of creation. For Adam was created first, 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:03.330 then Eve, and then the second reason. And Adam was 0:20:03.330 --> 0:20:06.899 not deceived, but the woman was deceived and transgressed. And 0:20:06.900 --> 0:20:10.290 so the second reason is not the order of creation, 0:20:10.290 --> 0:20:12.780 but the fall. And I don't think Paul is saying 0:20:12.780 --> 0:20:15.540 that women are more naive or more gullible. I think 0:20:15.540 --> 0:20:18.060 what he is saying is, look what happened when Eve 0:20:18.090 --> 0:20:23.400 did not follow the the established order in the home 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.859 that God had set up for men to be the 0:20:25.859 --> 0:20:31.050 spiritual leader and look at the bad consequences. So, uh, 0:20:31.230 --> 0:20:39.280 the reason I think that verse 12 continues, is as 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:46.030 a trans cultural prohibition is because the two reasons that 0:20:46.030 --> 0:20:48.730 Paul gives have nothing to do with the culture of 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:52.449 that day, but rather the reasons he gives have to 0:20:52.450 --> 0:20:55.930 do with creation and the fall. And so that would 0:20:55.930 --> 0:20:58.510 lead me to conclude that Paul was not talking about 0:20:58.510 --> 0:21:04.810 the situation locally in Ephesus, but rather he was talking 0:21:04.810 --> 0:21:10.540 about the, the principle of. You'll notice everywhere he went 0:21:10.570 --> 0:21:13.210 he appointed men to be elders. It says in first 0:21:13.210 --> 0:21:16.660 Timothy three. This is a trustworthy saying. If anyone aspires 0:21:16.660 --> 0:21:19.930 to be an overseer, he desires a noble work. It 0:21:19.930 --> 0:21:24.070 literally says, if any man desires. Aspires to be an overseer, 0:21:24.070 --> 0:21:26.440 he desires a noble work. Doesn't mean that every man 0:21:26.470 --> 0:21:28.630 should be an overseer, because it's something that they have 0:21:28.630 --> 0:21:32.350 to desire. And then also he gives the qualifications. So 0:21:32.350 --> 0:21:36.460 it's not every man. It's just saying that certain men 0:21:36.490 --> 0:21:39.910 who have a level of maturity and want to do 0:21:39.910 --> 0:21:42.340 this and serve in this way, they are the ones 0:21:42.340 --> 0:21:49.210 that should be elders. It's not saying that, uh, every man, uh, 0:21:49.390 --> 0:21:50.800 we have to be really careful because a lot of 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:52.870 people are saying, oh, this means that every man is 0:21:52.900 --> 0:21:57.609 authoritative over woman. Not true. That's just the elders. And 0:21:57.609 --> 0:22:01.510 then the other thing I would say, it's not saying 0:22:01.510 --> 0:22:04.180 women can't serve in ministry. There are many, many ways 0:22:04.180 --> 0:22:07.330 that women can serve in ministry. It's just saying that 0:22:07.330 --> 0:22:09.940 the elder role is not, in fact, in first Timothy three. 0:22:09.970 --> 0:22:15.400 It talks about, I believe, about deaconesses, uh, in verse 11, uh, 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:18.070 where it says women too must be worthy of respect 0:22:18.070 --> 0:22:22.360 in the context of deacons, uh, women deacons or deaconesses, uh, 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:25.930 those who serve in the local congregation, obviously they can 0:22:25.930 --> 0:22:30.590 serve in that way as well. So, uh. I'm sorry, Patricia, 0:22:30.590 --> 0:22:35.270 if I disappointed you by giving you my opinion on this, but, uh, 0:22:35.270 --> 0:22:36.980 I really do think that's what the word says. 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:39.260 But I just was hoping for some better. 0:22:39.380 --> 0:22:43.220 Well, then if you if you respectfully disagree, I appreciate that, 0:22:43.220 --> 0:22:46.820 but here's my question. How do you explain the fact 0:22:46.820 --> 0:22:51.470 that Paul doesn't cite the reason as the local culture, 0:22:51.470 --> 0:22:57.530 but instead cites creation in the fall as the reasons? 0:22:57.530 --> 0:23:00.500 I don't know how to explain it. I just find it. 0:23:00.500 --> 0:23:06.290 I just find it difficult to accept when, um, believers 0:23:06.290 --> 0:23:12.140 take one sentence, one verse out of a whole letter 0:23:12.290 --> 0:23:16.340 and base their belief off that one sentence. Because if 0:23:16.340 --> 0:23:19.820 you go down a couple more verses, it also says 0:23:19.820 --> 0:23:23.359 that women are saved through childbearing. And I don't know 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:25.250 about you, Michael, but I was saved by the blood 0:23:25.250 --> 0:23:28.139 of Jesus, not by giving birth to my children. 0:23:28.650 --> 0:23:31.950 Well, in first Timothy 215, where it says women will 0:23:31.950 --> 0:23:35.580 be saved by bearing of children. I think that we 0:23:35.580 --> 0:23:37.980 have to understand that the word saved is not talking 0:23:37.980 --> 0:23:41.070 about eternal salvation. I don't think Paul would get that 0:23:41.340 --> 0:23:44.820 wrong if you think that's what he meant. I think 0:23:44.820 --> 0:23:49.619 what the word sozo in Greek has a broad meaning, 0:23:49.619 --> 0:23:52.830 and in context here it's meaning something quite different. It 0:23:52.830 --> 0:23:59.430 means delivered. They'll find significance in their lives, not through 0:23:59.430 --> 0:24:04.200 leading the local church, but by bearing and raising children, 0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:07.500 if they literally is what it says. My version says 0:24:07.500 --> 0:24:10.380 if she, but it says if they the children that 0:24:10.380 --> 0:24:15.210 she is born, continue in faith, love, holiness with good judgment. 0:24:15.210 --> 0:24:21.810 And so the idea is a woman will find her significance, 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:26.220 not necessarily by trying to lead the local congregation, but 0:24:26.250 --> 0:24:29.760 by raising children for the Lord. I know that there 0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:35.879 are some people that are beyond, uh, the age of 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:38.550 having children. There are some women that can't have children, 0:24:38.550 --> 0:24:41.790 some women don't marry and have children. But I was 0:24:41.790 --> 0:24:45.450 just thinking that as a general rule, what Paul is saying, 0:24:45.450 --> 0:24:47.670 you know what? You have to find significance in your 0:24:47.670 --> 0:24:50.700 life and your family. That's the most the greatest impact 0:24:50.700 --> 0:24:54.390 you can have. And then beyond that, uh, even women 0:24:54.390 --> 0:24:57.719 who can't have kids, like, uh, at the opening of 0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:02.250 the first hour, I talked about, uh, my dear friend Arlene, 0:25:02.250 --> 0:25:05.820 who went to be with the Lord in her late 80s. Uh, 0:25:05.820 --> 0:25:10.109 but when I was a teenager, she she she and 0:25:10.109 --> 0:25:13.590 her husband couldn't have kids, but they basically became surrogate 0:25:13.590 --> 0:25:16.410 parents for me. And she and her husband did that 0:25:16.410 --> 0:25:20.820 with bunches of teens who needed parenting. And she did 0:25:20.820 --> 0:25:24.990 fulfill that by raising up many of us to walk 0:25:24.990 --> 0:25:29.350 with the Lord and and grow in him and serve him. 0:25:29.350 --> 0:25:32.440 And so I don't think it means that you had 0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:34.300 to have that child yourself. There are a lot of 0:25:34.300 --> 0:25:36.790 ways that women who couldn't have a child that can 0:25:36.790 --> 0:25:39.130 serve the Lord that way and and raise them up 0:25:39.130 --> 0:25:42.610 to love him in faith, love and holiness. Hey, Patricia, 0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:46.510 love your interaction. Appreciate it so much. We'll be right 0:25:46.510 --> 0:25:50.260 back with the mailbag in just a moment. Don't go away. 0:26:07.510 --> 0:26:11.409 And we're back. I'm Michael Ray Dolnick, and joining me 0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:16.930 right now is the person who puts the mailbag together. 0:26:16.930 --> 0:26:20.020 She gets all the ones that you send her, and 0:26:20.020 --> 0:26:24.879 she not only puts the mailbag together, But Tricia McMillan 0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:27.910 decides which ones she's going to ask. It's not up 0:26:27.910 --> 0:26:31.990 to me. So sometimes people write to me and they say, 0:26:32.020 --> 0:26:33.490 you know, I sent in a question and it never 0:26:33.490 --> 0:26:37.000 made it on the air. I just say, blame Tricia. 0:26:37.180 --> 0:26:40.000 Thank you. How do you feel about that, Tricia? How about. 0:26:40.030 --> 0:26:41.620 How's that for throwing you under the bus? 0:26:41.650 --> 0:26:46.630 Yes, very much so. That said, we do have a 0:26:46.630 --> 0:26:50.410 limited amount of time to ask these, so I'm also 0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:52.510 limited by sheer time. 0:26:52.750 --> 0:26:57.460 That's true. That's why we do, uh, programs periodically where 0:26:57.460 --> 0:26:59.590 we catch up and we try and clear the spindle 0:26:59.619 --> 0:27:02.619 a little bit and get most of the questions done. 0:27:02.619 --> 0:27:04.209 But if you do want to send your question in, 0:27:04.210 --> 0:27:07.990 just go to Open Line radio.org, uh, and you'll see 0:27:07.990 --> 0:27:10.989 a link that says ask Michael a question and you 0:27:11.020 --> 0:27:15.160 click on that and post your question. And Trish will 0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:17.200 put it into the mailbag. And we will get to 0:27:17.230 --> 0:27:19.750 it usually sooner or later. The reason, you know, I 0:27:19.750 --> 0:27:25.130 have really tried to focus on the questions, sending questions there, 0:27:26.330 --> 0:27:29.120 because sometimes people go to the Facebook page and they 0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:32.240 see a comment and then they unrelated to it. They'll 0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:37.520 post a question there or they'll send it, you know, 0:27:37.550 --> 0:27:41.449 on a message board or something like that, or Instagram, 0:27:41.450 --> 0:27:44.000 and they'll send a question there. And the truth of 0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:46.550 it is, if you send it in too many different places, 0:27:46.550 --> 0:27:49.190 it's hard to find. And so that's why I've really 0:27:49.190 --> 0:27:53.000 tried to encourage people to just do it. Open Line radio.org. 0:27:53.030 --> 0:27:56.540 Ask Michael a question. Although Tricia, I know you look 0:27:56.540 --> 0:27:56.840 all over. 0:27:56.869 --> 0:27:59.240 I do, I do check all of those places because 0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:01.310 I know that they come in to all of those. 0:28:01.310 --> 0:28:04.100 So if you have sent it there, I do see it. 0:28:04.130 --> 0:28:06.590 It just may not be as immediate as the as 0:28:06.590 --> 0:28:08.960 the ask Michael a question thing, but I do see it. 0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:09.949 I do find them. Yeah. 0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.340 Yeah. Okay. Well let's ask Michael a question now. 0:28:13.340 --> 0:28:16.699 All right. All right. This question is from Susan in 0:28:16.700 --> 0:28:21.959 New York. Listens to why John 15 two Jesus is 0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.719 talking with his disciples and he says, every branch in 0:28:24.750 --> 0:28:28.230 me that does not bear fruit he takes away. If 0:28:28.230 --> 0:28:31.170 the branch is in him, then they're believers. I know 0:28:31.170 --> 0:28:36.149 the word that's been translated takes away is aero. Aero 0:28:36.180 --> 0:28:39.120 meaning to lift up. Can you please expound on this verse? 0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:44.190 What is our Lord saying here? Uh, John 15 two. 0:28:44.220 --> 0:28:48.780 Yeah. Uh, there is. You know, I always wondered about that. 0:28:48.780 --> 0:28:55.740 Verse two. Now, many years ago, I read a journal article, uh, 0:28:56.520 --> 0:29:00.600 and uh, it's kind of interesting. It was it was 0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:09.270 called abiding is Believing. Uh, and, uh, it was I 0:29:09.270 --> 0:29:13.560 think it's really important. Uh, it was it was written 0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:20.700 by a Western seminary professor. And, uh, the thing about 0:29:20.700 --> 0:29:22.590 it is, I think what he is saying here is 0:29:22.590 --> 0:29:24.660 I am the true vine and my father is the 0:29:24.660 --> 0:29:28.110 vine vineyard keeper. Every branch in me that does not 0:29:28.110 --> 0:29:31.440 produce fruit, he removes. Some people say it means he 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.740 lifts it up and he prunes every branch that produces 0:29:34.740 --> 0:29:38.250 fruit so that it will produce more fruit. Uh, but 0:29:38.250 --> 0:29:40.920 then verse four, remain in me and I in you. 0:29:40.950 --> 0:29:44.040 Just as a branch is unable to produce fruit in 0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:47.219 and of itself unless it remains on the vine, so 0:29:47.220 --> 0:29:53.640 neither can you, unless you remain in me. Uh, and 0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:56.430 so what he is saying is we can't produce fruit 0:29:56.430 --> 0:29:59.610 unless we abide. And that the idea of abiding isn't 0:29:59.610 --> 0:30:04.560 just staying in the faith, but that if a person 0:30:04.770 --> 0:30:09.480 has a genuine faith, they abide. And if they don't 0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:13.440 have a genuine faith, they're not really they won't abide. 0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:18.330 And so abiding, he says, is believing genuine faith will 0:30:18.370 --> 0:30:24.430 produce fruit. Uh, and, uh, those who this passage, as 0:30:24.430 --> 0:30:27.760 we look at it, those who are not abiding, it 0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:29.590 says I am the vine. You are the branches. The 0:30:29.590 --> 0:30:31.720 one who remains in me, and I in him produces 0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.960 much fruit, because you can do nothing without me. But 0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:40.420 if anyone does not remain or abide in me, he 0:30:40.420 --> 0:30:44.200 is thrown aside. And I think that, uh, and they're 0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:48.760 gathered up and, uh, separated out. So I think that 0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:55.870 that's an accurate assessment, uh, uh, that abiding is actually 0:30:55.870 --> 0:31:00.970 being a genuine believer. It's not just sticking with your faith, 0:31:00.970 --> 0:31:04.960 but a genuine believer will abide. And that's why that 0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:10.570 article was written. Uh, uh, abiding is believing. I think 0:31:10.570 --> 0:31:18.770 that really captures it, that a genuine believer is, uh Is, is, uh, 0:31:19.370 --> 0:31:22.880 is someone that will abide in the Lord. I'm pulling 0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.700 it up right now. The the author is a wonderful author. 0:31:25.730 --> 0:31:29.000 He's written a lot of books. Uh, and it's J. 0:31:29.030 --> 0:31:34.010 Carl Laney. Carl Laney is just a I want to 0:31:34.010 --> 0:31:35.660 make sure he was the one that wrote it. I 0:31:35.660 --> 0:31:41.090 remembered the article, but Carl Laney, uh, who is kind 0:31:41.090 --> 0:31:42.740 of one of those people that I should have been really, 0:31:42.740 --> 0:31:47.390 really good friends with. We ran into each other once in, 0:31:47.390 --> 0:31:49.700 in Israel and we became friends. And now we're just 0:31:49.700 --> 0:31:54.110 friends on Facebook, which is kind of funny, you know? Uh, uh, 0:31:54.110 --> 0:31:56.930 but and we write to each other. But I really 0:31:56.930 --> 0:31:59.330 have never had, like, a lunch with him or anything or. 0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.720 But we're kind of distant friends because I like his 0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.150 work so much. And he was writing to me, and 0:32:05.150 --> 0:32:08.150 he read a book that I. That I wrote and 0:32:08.150 --> 0:32:10.520 said how much he liked it. So we were mutual admirers, 0:32:10.550 --> 0:32:14.090 you know. Yeah. Uh, but but that article, uh, abiding 0:32:14.090 --> 0:32:17.720 is believing in Bibliotheca Sacra about 40 years ago, maybe 0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:22.850 42 years ago. Uh, that's that was a great article. And, uh, 0:32:23.150 --> 0:32:27.140 it says that a genuine person who abides, uh, is 0:32:27.140 --> 0:32:28.040 a believer. 0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:31.520 So I always had this idea that abiding takes more 0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:36.500 effort than, than just genuinely believing that you that there's 0:32:36.500 --> 0:32:40.459 more action on my part. But you seem to be 0:32:40.460 --> 0:32:44.959 saying that. No, it's it's just that genuine faith. 0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:49.940 Yeah. The genuine faith will lead to abiding. It will, uh, 0:32:49.970 --> 0:32:54.530 the person who just has, uh, maybe an intellectual assent 0:32:54.590 --> 0:32:58.160 like we talked about last hour, maybe an emotional response, 0:32:58.940 --> 0:33:04.070 but not a decision to follow. They won't abide. Okay. 0:33:04.100 --> 0:33:08.720 Like like, uh, the the the seed that falls on 0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:11.270 the soil, that's that's, uh. 0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:13.100 Uh, that has shallow. 0:33:13.100 --> 0:33:18.660 Roots, shallow root. And yeah, they're not abiding. So abiding 0:33:18.660 --> 0:33:19.740 is genuine faith. 0:33:19.770 --> 0:33:22.440 Okay. So this is really just a follow up to 0:33:22.470 --> 0:33:25.050 last hour's question where we talked about what what true 0:33:25.050 --> 0:33:29.130 faith was. Okay. Wonderful. Well, thank you for that question, Susan. 0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:31.740 And for taking us a little bit deeper. Jeff wrote 0:33:31.740 --> 0:33:35.160 us from Ohio, listens to Wtxf. Wants to know if 0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:39.030 you have a recommendation of a resource on Jewish traditions, 0:33:39.030 --> 0:33:42.990 culture and expectations at the time of Jesus wants to 0:33:43.020 --> 0:33:45.240 better understand this part of the New Testament? 0:33:45.270 --> 0:33:48.270 Yeah. Uh, there's a book. There's a couple of books 0:33:48.270 --> 0:33:53.010 that I would recommend. Uh, there's Jodi Magnus's book. Uh, 0:33:53.010 --> 0:33:56.460 and it's I'll give you. It's kind of a funny title. 0:33:56.490 --> 0:34:01.380 Jodi Magness is a Jewish archaeologist, and it says that 0:34:01.380 --> 0:34:08.550 Jodi Magness. Magness, uh, stone and dung, oil and spit, 0:34:08.580 --> 0:34:13.090 Jewish daily life in the time of Jesus. That's about 0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:14.140 daily life. 0:34:14.170 --> 0:34:14.830 Okay. 0:34:15.190 --> 0:34:16.150 Okay. It is. 0:34:16.180 --> 0:34:18.880 It is a different title. Yeah. 0:34:18.910 --> 0:34:22.540 It's stone and dung. Oil and spit. Jewish daily life 0:34:22.540 --> 0:34:26.320 in the time of Jesus. Jodi. Jodi magness. M a 0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:31.900 g n e s s excellent. Uh, archaeologist who wrote that? Uh, 0:34:31.900 --> 0:34:35.770 but if you want to know about Jewish beliefs in 0:34:35.770 --> 0:34:39.280 the time of Jesus, the, uh, the the theology of 0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:43.210 Judaism at the time, or I should better say, theologies 0:34:43.210 --> 0:34:47.830 of Judaism, there are a lot of books about that, 0:34:47.830 --> 0:34:50.110 and they kind of differ. But there's one book that's 0:34:50.110 --> 0:34:54.160 kind of old, I think it may be almost 100 0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:59.469 years old, maybe from the 1940s. Uh, and it's still available. 0:34:59.469 --> 0:35:02.770 It's still in print. You can find it. Uh, it's 0:35:02.770 --> 0:35:07.210 called Judaism. In the first centuries of the Christian era. 0:35:08.260 --> 0:35:12.879 Judaism in the first centuries of the Christian era. That's 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.300 what the beliefs were, the expectations about the Messiah, things 0:35:16.300 --> 0:35:21.850 like that. And the author's name is George. Foot as 0:35:21.850 --> 0:35:28.810 in hand versus foot. Right. So foot more George foot Moore. 0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.810 And it's called Judaism in the first centuries of the 0:35:31.810 --> 0:35:34.990 Christian era. And it has like you can look up 0:35:35.020 --> 0:35:37.690 it'll have what did Judaism believe about the Messiah? What 0:35:37.690 --> 0:35:41.440 did Judaism believe about other things? And it's it's a 0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:44.710 great little book. Okay. It's a big book, actually. Two volumes. 0:35:44.739 --> 0:35:49.030 Oh, no. Okay. Yeah. So it's you settle in to 0:35:49.060 --> 0:35:50.439 read it. Yeah. 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.360 Well, it's. But you'd have to look in the index 0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:54.220 and find what you're looking for if you want to 0:35:54.219 --> 0:35:54.790 understand it. 0:35:54.790 --> 0:35:57.880 So it's more of a a bigger resource. That would 0:35:57.910 --> 0:36:00.250 be more extensive. Yeah. Okay. 0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.350 But that doesn't deal with the daily life. It just 0:36:02.350 --> 0:36:04.630 deals with the beliefs of Judaism. 0:36:04.630 --> 0:36:07.779 I will I will link both of those on our 0:36:07.780 --> 0:36:11.490 website for people who are trying to find them or 0:36:11.489 --> 0:36:12.900 didn't catch the titles. 0:36:12.930 --> 0:36:17.219 You know what's so interesting about those books, uh, is 0:36:17.219 --> 0:36:22.230 that I'm all I'm often asked questions about Jewish life 0:36:22.230 --> 0:36:26.189 in the first century. And there's others. Social life Sketches 0:36:26.190 --> 0:36:29.670 of Jewish Social Life in the Times of Jesus by 0:36:29.670 --> 0:36:35.129 Alfred Edersheim. Uh, that's a 150 year old book. But 0:36:35.130 --> 0:36:38.400 he was a great rabbinic scholar and became a Jewish 0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:42.180 believer in Jesus. And he has a lot about social, 0:36:42.210 --> 0:36:46.350 social life. And, uh, daily life is Jodi Magness. That's 0:36:46.350 --> 0:36:50.040 a fairly recent book, probably about ten years old. And then, uh, 0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:54.239 about Jewish beliefs. I think we've got that book by 0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:56.130 George Whitmore. George Whitmore. 0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:57.989 Yeah. What was the edersheim book? 0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:01.439 Uh, sketches of Jewish Social Life in the Time of Christ? 0:37:03.810 --> 0:37:05.939 None of these are short titles, either. So they take 0:37:05.940 --> 0:37:08.070 me a moment to write down sketches of Jewish social 0:37:08.070 --> 0:37:08.910 life in the. 0:37:08.940 --> 0:37:10.200 In the time of Christ. 0:37:10.230 --> 0:37:11.580 Time of Christ. 0:37:11.790 --> 0:37:17.520 And its Alfred Edersheim. One of the most, uh, really, uh, 0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:22.200 well known Jewish believers from the previous. From the 1800s. 0:37:22.260 --> 0:37:24.990 Wow. All right, well. Thank you. Okay. That's a vast 0:37:25.020 --> 0:37:27.719 that covers covers a lot of history in terms of 0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:30.779 when they wrote these books. So. But I appreciate it. 0:37:30.780 --> 0:37:32.370 Thank you for that question, Jeff. 0:37:32.969 --> 0:37:38.550 Yep. Uh, well, I think we'll just take a break here. Yeah, yeah, 0:37:38.550 --> 0:37:40.469 we'll go back to calls. Thank you so much. You're 0:37:40.469 --> 0:37:44.010 welcome for sending it in. And thanks for putting it together, Tricia. 0:37:44.010 --> 0:37:46.650 It's always great. I really I tease her, but you 0:37:46.650 --> 0:37:49.020 know how much I appreciate you, Tricia. Yes. You know, 0:37:49.050 --> 0:37:51.240 even though I blame you for not getting the questions 0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:54.090 on the air, it's my long answers that really keep 0:37:54.090 --> 0:37:55.739 them off the air. We'll be right back with more 0:37:55.770 --> 0:37:58.740 of your calls. That was Tricia McMillan. I'm Michael Radonich. 0:37:58.770 --> 0:38:00.900 This is open line. Stay right with us. 0:38:00.900 --> 0:38:01.920 We'll be right back. 0:38:07.620 --> 0:38:10.500 Some claim Paul is the key person who took the 0:38:10.500 --> 0:38:15.120 message of the Jewish Messiah. Jesus made it into something Gentile. 0:38:15.420 --> 0:38:18.930 But Paul is also the one who wrote, brethren, my 0:38:18.930 --> 0:38:23.819 heart's desire for Israel is for their salvation. Romans ten one. 0:38:23.850 --> 0:38:28.109 Chosen people ministries. One of our underwriters wants us all 0:38:28.140 --> 0:38:31.740 to learn what drove Paul's passion for his own people. 0:38:31.739 --> 0:38:34.680 They're offering the book The Heart of the Apostle by 0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:38.040 Rich Freeman, free to all open line listeners. To get 0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.680 this exposition of Romans nine through 11, just go to 0:38:40.710 --> 0:38:44.609 our website, openline. radio.org. Scroll down to the link that 0:38:44.610 --> 0:38:47.700 says A free gift from Chosen People Ministries. Click on 0:38:47.730 --> 0:38:49.770 that and you'll be taken to a page where you 0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.439 can sign up for your very own free copy of 0:38:52.440 --> 0:39:04.530 The Heart of the Apostle. Paul. Welcome back to Open Line. 0:39:04.530 --> 0:39:07.239 I've had a great time with you in the word. Uh, 0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:09.940 it's been a lot of fun studying the scriptures. I 0:39:09.940 --> 0:39:12.609 love calling this the Bible Study across America, because when 0:39:12.610 --> 0:39:16.480 you see all the people calling from across the country, uh, 0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:20.380 it's just amazing. And I'm so grateful for your listening. Uh, 0:39:20.410 --> 0:39:22.930 I do want to thank Omar Mendoza for doing a 0:39:22.930 --> 0:39:26.440 great job at the board today, and Tricia for doing 0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:30.279 a great job producing with the help of Tyra and to, uh, 0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:34.600 also for tiara answering the phones. Uh, you guys appreciate 0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:38.140 your help being part of the team here. And, uh, 0:39:38.140 --> 0:39:39.610 we're going to go right back to the phones. We're 0:39:39.610 --> 0:39:43.510 going to speak with DJ and Annandale, Minnesota, uh, listening 0:39:43.540 --> 0:39:46.239 on Ksfb. Welcome to Open Line. DJ. How can I 0:39:46.270 --> 0:39:46.930 help you? 0:39:48.310 --> 0:39:50.680 Good morning. Thank you so much for your show. I 0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:55.239 enjoy it very, very much. Thank you. Um, I also yeah, 0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:59.739 I also just received my copy of the Moody Bible Commentary. 0:39:59.739 --> 0:40:01.810 I'm so excited to dig into that too. 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:05.350 You just received it? Yes. 0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:07.090 I just ordered it online. 0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:08.799 I was very excited. 0:40:08.980 --> 0:40:11.410 Oh, wow. You know what? Do you know what? I 0:40:11.410 --> 0:40:14.799 should really mention that to people, though. That it's November. 0:40:14.950 --> 0:40:19.450 And November means people are starting their holiday shopping. Christmas, Hanukkah, 0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.480 things like that. And one of the best presents I 0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:26.259 think people can give is the Moody Bible commentary. So. 0:40:26.290 --> 0:40:29.680 And I want to encourage that. Uh, you know, that's 0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:31.990 a wonderful gift. If you're wondering what to get dad, 0:40:31.989 --> 0:40:34.780 what to get your brother, what to get your sister. 0:40:34.810 --> 0:40:38.109 It's a moody Bible commentary. Thanks for the reminder, JW. 0:40:38.140 --> 0:40:41.950 That's great. Or you can get one for yourself. Like. 0:40:41.980 --> 0:40:43.660 Like JW did, right? 0:40:46.810 --> 0:40:51.220 Yes. Um, my question today is when I read in 0:40:51.219 --> 0:40:55.419 the Psalms, very often I see a Bible verse end 0:40:55.450 --> 0:40:58.299 with the word Selah, and I have not been able 0:40:58.300 --> 0:41:01.660 to find anywhere that can give me a definition of 0:41:01.690 --> 0:41:03.890 that word. Can you help me out with that? 0:41:04.010 --> 0:41:08.120 I might, you know. I always thought it meant that 0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:10.100 there was going to be a music group by the 0:41:10.100 --> 0:41:15.110 name of Selah and and a contemporary music group. So 0:41:15.110 --> 0:41:19.520 it was sort of a prophecy. No, no, I don't 0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:23.750 think you've heard of that music group, haven't you? Yeah. 0:41:25.969 --> 0:41:29.750 It's not that, uh, you know what? What it is. 0:41:30.980 --> 0:41:35.060 You know, there are a lot of directions or some, uh, 0:41:35.300 --> 0:41:40.339 what would you call it? Uh, uh, for example, I 0:41:40.340 --> 0:41:43.220 just opened my book of Psalms. It says in Psalm 78, 0:41:43.250 --> 0:41:50.570 a maskil of Asaph. And so Maskil refers to a 0:41:50.570 --> 0:41:56.719 teaching psalm, a wisdom psalm. So that's that's what that means. 0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:01.549 And sometimes we see the word Selah or Selah or 0:42:01.590 --> 0:42:06.180 Selah and. Well, what is that? Uh, my. I'll tell 0:42:06.180 --> 0:42:11.250 you what. My Bible, uh, in the back of it, 0:42:11.250 --> 0:42:14.730 I have a hcsb Bible, uh, produced by B and 0:42:14.730 --> 0:42:18.300 H in the glossary. It has a glossary in the back, 0:42:18.300 --> 0:42:23.669 and it says Selah, a Hebrew word whose meaning is uncertain. 0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:31.049 Various interpretations include one a musical notation, likely two a 0:42:31.050 --> 0:42:36.029 pause for silence. That would be a musical notation as well. 0:42:36.060 --> 0:42:39.450 It would be a kind of musical notation. Three A 0:42:39.450 --> 0:42:43.020 signal for worshipers to fall prostrate on the ground. For 0:42:43.050 --> 0:42:46.680 a term for the worshipers to call out. And five 0:42:46.710 --> 0:42:52.350 a word meaning forever. Now that's different things that scholars 0:42:52.350 --> 0:42:55.050 have put out as to what it means. In my opinion, 0:42:55.050 --> 0:42:59.790 it just it's a musical notation that means pause. That's 0:42:59.790 --> 0:43:02.250 what it means. Take a breath. 0:43:02.820 --> 0:43:06.060 Oh, interesting. Mhm. 0:43:06.330 --> 0:43:07.890 That's because remember these were written. 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:08.940 Thank you for these. These were. 0:43:08.969 --> 0:43:11.130 These were written to be sung. 0:43:12.420 --> 0:43:13.770 So. Yeah. That's right. 0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:17.640 Yeah. So it's just a musical notation for a pause. 0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:19.260 But it's a good question. You see it all the 0:43:19.260 --> 0:43:21.360 time in the book of Psalms, right. 0:43:21.900 --> 0:43:24.390 Yes. Yes, exactly. Yeah. 0:43:24.420 --> 0:43:27.089 Well, thanks for thanks for listening. DJ by the way, 0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:29.040 taking a pause when we read the Psalms. Not a 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.500 bad thing. Take a minute. Think about what you just read. 0:43:31.530 --> 0:43:34.830 Take a, you know, 10s and then keep on. Not 0:43:34.830 --> 0:43:36.720 a bad idea. So. 0:43:36.750 --> 0:43:39.690 Okay, I think that's the purpose of putting it there. 0:43:39.690 --> 0:43:42.210 So thank you so much. Have a great day. 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:45.870 Yeah. Thanks for your call. Richard in Plainfield, Illinois, listening 0:43:45.870 --> 0:43:48.030 on Wmbi. Welcome to Open Line. 0:43:49.380 --> 0:43:52.830 Thanks, Michael. Got a quick question for you. In acts 0:43:52.830 --> 0:43:56.340 chapter eight, verses 16 and 17, it seems that some 0:43:56.340 --> 0:43:59.950 Samaritans have been baptized but did not receive the Holy 0:43:59.950 --> 0:44:02.830 Spirit until Peter and John arrived from Jerusalem and laid 0:44:02.830 --> 0:44:06.370 their hands on them. So I guess my first question 0:44:06.370 --> 0:44:09.520 is how does one receive the Holy Spirit? Is it 0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:12.190 through baptism or the laying on of hands, as Luke 0:44:12.190 --> 0:44:14.980 seems to be implying in these verses? 0:44:15.580 --> 0:44:19.660 Well, let me just start by saying, if you read 0:44:19.660 --> 0:44:24.040 through the book of acts, uh, it's not always the case. 0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:31.270 For example, in acts ten, no one laid hands on Cornelius. Uh, 0:44:31.270 --> 0:44:37.330 he didn't pray to receive the Holy Spirit, but the 0:44:37.330 --> 0:44:40.180 Holy Spirit fell on, on him. Peter relates, just as 0:44:40.180 --> 0:44:43.120 he did upon us at the beginning in acts two. 0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:45.880 And the same thing in acts two. The Holy Spirit fell. 0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:49.540 There was nothing that they did to make the Holy 0:44:49.540 --> 0:44:54.850 Spirit fall. It's just one of the things that you 0:44:54.850 --> 0:44:56.590 see in the book of acts is that the Holy 0:44:56.590 --> 0:45:03.080 Spirit falls upon people differently. Different settings. Uh, and the 0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:05.540 Bible says if you this is what it says in 0:45:05.540 --> 0:45:07.640 Romans eight nine, if we don't have the Spirit of Christ, 0:45:07.670 --> 0:45:10.549 we don't belong to him. First Corinthians 1213 says, we 0:45:10.550 --> 0:45:13.730 are all baptized by one spirit into one body. It 0:45:13.730 --> 0:45:18.500 is why, uh, people have said that we should, uh, 0:45:18.500 --> 0:45:21.530 we should not teach the apostles experience. That's what the 0:45:21.530 --> 0:45:24.290 Book of Acts says. It's a narrative of a transition. 0:45:24.290 --> 0:45:26.870 We should not teach the apostles experience, but we should 0:45:26.870 --> 0:45:30.859 experience the apostles teaching. That's what we find in the epistles. 0:45:30.860 --> 0:45:34.730 What I think happened in the transitional nature of the 0:45:34.730 --> 0:45:40.910 the book is that to keep the Samaritans from forming 0:45:40.910 --> 0:45:48.680 a schismatic separatist group of believers, just remember the Samaritans. 0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:52.280 They were schismatic from Judaism. Do you remember that? Well, 0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:55.580 the same way there is the danger of the Samaritans 0:45:55.580 --> 0:45:59.660 first receiving the gospel and separating from the apostles. So 0:45:59.690 --> 0:46:02.959 instead they waited for the apostles to go to Samaria, 0:46:02.989 --> 0:46:06.620 lay hands on them, the Holy Spirit falls on them, 0:46:06.620 --> 0:46:10.070 and they are brought into the authority under the apostles. 0:46:10.070 --> 0:46:13.130 And there's only one church, not a Samaritan one versus 0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:16.040 a Jewish one. So that's why I think it happened 0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:19.040 that way. But the epistles were going to go for 0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:21.710 our teaching. That's the program for the week. Thanks for 0:46:21.710 --> 0:46:23.660 your call, Richard. Thanks for all of you who called. 0:46:23.660 --> 0:46:26.900 Thanks for making Open Line possible. Keep in touch with 0:46:26.900 --> 0:46:29.840 us by going to our website, Open Line radio.org. It's 0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:32.030 got all the links you're looking for how to become 0:46:32.030 --> 0:46:34.520 a kitchen table partner, how to get our current resource, 0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:37.610 how to get receive the gift from Chosen People ministries. 0:46:37.610 --> 0:46:40.880 Keep reading the Bible. We'll talk about it next week. 0:46:40.910 --> 0:46:43.700 Open line with Doctor Michael Rolnick is a production of 0:46:43.700 --> 0:46:48.259 Moody Radio, a ministry of Moody Bible Institute. See you 0:46:48.260 --> 0:46:49.100 next week.