1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,160 S1: He has an unmistakable voice that springs from the rich 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,200 S1: soil of some of the pain and struggles of his life, 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,720 S1: struggles that led him down a winding road that eventually 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,720 S1: led him away from addiction and an aimless journey straight 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,960 S1: to the heart of God. Today at the Radio Backyard Fence, 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,680 S1: a best-of broadcast on the first Friday of 2026 featuring 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,520 S1: singer songwriter Ben Fuller, he joined us in the studio 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,520 S1: back in July, and what you are about to hear 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,080 S1: is that reconnection that we made. Now, since this was 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,200 S1: recorded six months ago, you're going to hear dated information 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,879 S1: about his tour and where he's going to be. Go 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,120 S1: to Chris Fabriclive and link to his website so you 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,640 S1: can find out the truth about where he will be. 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,640 S1: You can find his album right there. Walk Through Fire 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,880 S1: at Chris Fabry live. So here we go. From July 16 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,430 S1: of this year, I want you to hear Ben's reaction 17 00:01:00,430 --> 00:01:04,470 S1: to the Friday song. And since it's Friday. That's right. 18 00:01:04,510 --> 00:01:07,670 S1: It's time for the fabulous Friday. Sigh. Here's what it 19 00:01:07,670 --> 00:01:10,709 S1: does one. We oxygenate your blood. Two we get your 20 00:01:10,709 --> 00:01:14,830 S1: endorphins going. Three we raise your serotonin level. Four we 21 00:01:14,830 --> 00:01:19,390 S1: promote lymphatic drainage. And five we stimulate your parasympathetic system. 22 00:01:19,390 --> 00:01:22,190 S1: That's why we call it the five lung languages. We 23 00:01:22,190 --> 00:01:26,470 S1: also stimulate your vagus nerve. We help you release acetylcholine. 24 00:01:26,470 --> 00:01:29,910 S1: And don't you dare forget what it does to cortisol dissipation. 25 00:01:29,950 --> 00:01:32,230 S1: Taken four seconds of air through your nose right now. 26 00:01:32,510 --> 00:01:35,350 S1: Hold it four seconds. And then as you release that 27 00:01:35,350 --> 00:01:37,750 S1: air through your mouth, push on the left side of 28 00:01:37,750 --> 00:01:39,830 S1: your rib cage to get rid of all that bad 29 00:01:39,830 --> 00:01:43,030 S1: carbon dioxide. Give a sigh today, for those who grew 30 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:45,270 S1: up on a dairy farm in Vermont and dreamed of 31 00:01:45,270 --> 00:01:48,230 S1: singing country songs, really, for anyone who had a dream 32 00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:50,830 S1: of doing something they felt like they were made to do, 33 00:01:51,070 --> 00:01:54,430 S1: that sprang from that deep pool inside that said, this 34 00:01:54,430 --> 00:01:56,990 S1: is me, this is who I am. And along the 35 00:01:56,990 --> 00:01:59,870 S1: way to getting where they wanted to go. They got sidetracked. 36 00:02:00,110 --> 00:02:03,350 S1: Went a little off course, spiraled a bit and found 37 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:07,350 S1: the hound of Heaven was after them. The unrelenting coming 38 00:02:07,350 --> 00:02:10,310 S1: for you. Savior who loves chasing rebels down. That's how 39 00:02:10,350 --> 00:02:12,669 S1: Ben put it in one of his songs today, a 40 00:02:12,710 --> 00:02:19,310 S1: Ben Fuller side. All rights reserved. Void where prohibited. Ah, man. 41 00:02:19,350 --> 00:02:21,110 S1: Welcome back. What'd you think of that? 42 00:02:21,150 --> 00:02:25,470 S2: That was unbelievable. Do we have, like, a round of 43 00:02:25,470 --> 00:02:28,550 S2: applause with people in the background going. Yay! 44 00:02:30,590 --> 00:02:32,950 S1: It is so good to have you back. We had 45 00:02:32,950 --> 00:02:35,550 S1: you on, like, two years ago, and we have played 46 00:02:35,550 --> 00:02:38,829 S1: that program just about every third day. Chris. We have 47 00:02:38,830 --> 00:02:41,190 S1: it that we played it, played it, played it. Yeah. 48 00:02:41,230 --> 00:02:42,310 S1: Because it's so good. 49 00:02:42,630 --> 00:02:46,430 S2: Thank you Chris. That was amazing. Seriously, I got lost 50 00:02:46,430 --> 00:02:49,750 S2: somewhere with my hand on my rib cage pressing out 51 00:02:49,750 --> 00:02:53,870 S2: the bad carbon dioxide. Anyway, Lord, fill my lungs up. 52 00:02:54,070 --> 00:02:56,190 S1: We had a we had a caller who was. I 53 00:02:56,190 --> 00:02:58,940 S1: think she was a physical therapist or a trainer. And 54 00:02:58,940 --> 00:03:02,380 S1: she said, you know, the the, the carbon dioxide gets 55 00:03:02,380 --> 00:03:05,180 S1: in the left side. So when you when you say 56 00:03:05,220 --> 00:03:07,579 S1: press on that. And so I don't know if it's true, 57 00:03:07,580 --> 00:03:09,580 S1: but it sounds true. You know. So I'm going to. 58 00:03:09,900 --> 00:03:11,500 S2: Go with somebody asked me I'm going to share them 59 00:03:11,500 --> 00:03:13,900 S2: that I heard it from Chris. So anyway. 60 00:03:14,220 --> 00:03:16,179 S1: We are catching up with you in the middle of 61 00:03:16,180 --> 00:03:19,380 S1: you hitting the road as we record this today. Yeah. 62 00:03:19,380 --> 00:03:22,700 S1: When you prepare for a tour like this, what are 63 00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:25,380 S1: you hoping happens in all the places that you're going 64 00:03:25,419 --> 00:03:26,660 S1: to go? What are you expecting? 65 00:03:26,860 --> 00:03:29,060 S2: A man can plan in his heart, but only God 66 00:03:29,060 --> 00:03:34,139 S2: determines his steps. I have tried to plan time and 67 00:03:34,139 --> 00:03:38,540 S2: time and time again. And, um. It's always his. It's 68 00:03:38,540 --> 00:03:41,620 S2: always his plan. It's always his timing. It's always his things. 69 00:03:41,620 --> 00:03:45,540 S2: And and, um, so I try to just empty myself, 70 00:03:45,580 --> 00:03:49,020 S2: honestly and just go, okay, Lord, I don't know what's next. 71 00:03:49,020 --> 00:03:51,580 S2: I have no idea. I didn't plan on having a 72 00:03:51,580 --> 00:03:53,900 S2: flat tire on my way to the studio this morning, 73 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:56,050 S2: but but you know what? I got to stop, And 74 00:03:56,050 --> 00:03:59,250 S2: I literally was on my knee airing up this tire 75 00:03:59,250 --> 00:04:02,450 S2: that had £12 of pressure in it and up to 76 00:04:02,490 --> 00:04:06,290 S2: £40 right to the proper psi. And I thought to myself, 77 00:04:06,290 --> 00:04:09,650 S2: I am nothing without his breath in my lungs. And 78 00:04:09,650 --> 00:04:12,530 S2: I was just like, thank you, Lord, for showing me that, 79 00:04:12,530 --> 00:04:16,489 S2: because I'm always in such a hurry. You know, there's 80 00:04:16,490 --> 00:04:19,330 S2: always so many people that are just honking and beeping 81 00:04:19,330 --> 00:04:22,330 S2: and speeding and and so it was like that little 82 00:04:22,330 --> 00:04:25,330 S2: stop for me this morning on the way in was 83 00:04:25,330 --> 00:04:29,330 S2: just like, okay, take a deep breath. And that I'm 84 00:04:29,370 --> 00:04:31,849 S2: nothing without him. So that's that's what I try to 85 00:04:31,850 --> 00:04:33,169 S2: do when I go out on tour, when I'm out 86 00:04:33,210 --> 00:04:36,130 S2: before a show, uh, before for real. I hate to 87 00:04:36,170 --> 00:04:39,690 S2: call them shows because this is really my life on display. 88 00:04:40,050 --> 00:04:42,890 S2: And so it's like, okay, Lord, I, apart from Christ, 89 00:04:42,890 --> 00:04:44,969 S2: my flesh can do no good, is what Paul said. 90 00:04:44,970 --> 00:04:48,050 S2: I've realized that. How can I invite you into my 91 00:04:48,050 --> 00:04:50,130 S2: everything and let it be yours? 92 00:04:50,410 --> 00:04:53,490 S1: Isn't it interesting how in the middle he shows up 93 00:04:53,490 --> 00:04:56,160 S1: in the middle of real life when we've got something planned, 94 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,400 S1: you know, we're going in a different direction or this 95 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,799 S1: is where our heart is. And he he pulled through 96 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,799 S1: the glitches, through the struggles. He pulls us back to him. 97 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,480 S2: Yes. And I think that that's where the peace of 98 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,359 S2: the Lord comes in. Also, that peace that surpasses all understanding. 99 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:14,200 S2: Because I was like starting to to utter, um, you know, 100 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,680 S2: just just junk under my breath as I'm, as I'm, 101 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,240 S2: as I'm pulling into this gas station like, oh, I'm 102 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,920 S2: going to be late. They're going to be mad. I'm 103 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,000 S2: going to be I've got no time for this. What 104 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,839 S2: are you doing? And I'm airing this up. And that's 105 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,680 S2: all of a sudden, like, the Holy Spirit just hit 106 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,359 S2: me and was just like, what are you. Are you 107 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,120 S2: sure about all that? Like, I've actually stopped you for 108 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,280 S2: a reason this morning to to let you realize that 109 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,080 S2: it's me and not you. And so I'm just I'm 110 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,800 S2: grateful for those moments that that we can, you know, 111 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,280 S2: realize that, hey, it's him and not us. And the slowdowns. 112 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,200 S2: There's a lot of beautiful things that happen in the slowdowns. So. 113 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,279 S1: So it's not the circumstance, it's the response to that. 114 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,120 S1: That's what he's getting to. So we have the opportunity 115 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,599 S1: to turn on a dime. In a sense, it turns 116 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,200 S1: spiritually to him. And there's a song on this new 117 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,680 S1: album with that word. Can you tell us about that 118 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:06,440 S1: and sing that for us? 119 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,599 S2: Yeah, yeah. This, um, this song, you know, I, I 120 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:14,039 S2: had been going through, um, a relationship and, um, it 121 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,280 S2: ended and I was ready to go back to the 122 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:23,520 S2: 14.5 years of addiction that I lived with and in, um, 123 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,080 S2: that I wanted to, to, um, to go back to 124 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,120 S2: drinking again. I wanted to go back to those instant comforts, 125 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,120 S2: those things that gave me, um, that that filled me 126 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,960 S2: up temporarily. And I realized after everything that Jesus has 127 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,880 S2: done for me, like, I can't, I can't go back, 128 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,840 S2: that he's filled that hole in my heart. And so that, like, 129 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,600 S2: little temporary thought of I want to go back was 130 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,400 S2: just instantly filled with, um, I've got nowhere to turn 131 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:51,800 S2: but Jesus. 132 00:07:03,190 --> 00:07:10,710 S3: I wanted to turn to the bottle. I even drove 133 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:16,750 S3: past the bar. Turns out I'm not as strong as 134 00:07:16,750 --> 00:07:21,230 S3: I thought. But that's when I learned that you are. 135 00:07:22,230 --> 00:07:28,310 S3: When I'm weak, you are strong. When I fall short, 136 00:07:29,030 --> 00:07:34,070 S3: you go on and on. When I run, I can't 137 00:07:34,070 --> 00:07:40,430 S3: run alone. Cause your love will chase me down. Till 138 00:07:40,430 --> 00:07:49,910 S3: I've got. Nowhere to turn. But Jesus, I turn it 139 00:07:49,910 --> 00:07:54,900 S3: all know. Won't you turn it around? Turn it around. 140 00:07:56,820 --> 00:08:03,980 S3: Screaming my prayers to heaven I turn it all over. 141 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:13,980 S3: Won't you turn it around? Turn it around. I couldn't 142 00:08:13,980 --> 00:08:21,060 S3: get the words out to worship. But you heard me 143 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:27,740 S3: through the tears. Turns out I've never had nothing to prove. 144 00:08:28,060 --> 00:08:32,780 S3: And I swear I don't have nothing to fear. When 145 00:08:32,780 --> 00:08:38,740 S3: I run I can't run long. Cause your love will 146 00:08:38,740 --> 00:08:47,860 S3: chase me down. Till I've got nowhere to turn. But Jesus. 147 00:08:49,980 --> 00:08:54,459 S3: I turn it all over. Once you turn it around, 148 00:08:54,500 --> 00:09:03,380 S3: turn it around. I'm screaming my prayer to heaven I 149 00:09:03,460 --> 00:09:07,699 S3: turn it all all over. Won't you turn it around? 150 00:09:07,700 --> 00:09:16,939 S3: Turn it around. Turn to fight. It's your turn to speak. 151 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:21,740 S3: To turn to break every chain off of me. It's 152 00:09:21,740 --> 00:09:26,820 S3: your turn to be right. Your turn to redeem. Your 153 00:09:26,820 --> 00:09:30,940 S3: turn to take all these burdens from me. Cause it's 154 00:09:30,940 --> 00:09:36,100 S3: my turn to heal. My turn to believe. My turn 155 00:09:36,100 --> 00:09:40,300 S3: to let go. And finally be free. My turn to 156 00:09:40,300 --> 00:09:44,940 S3: be loved. My turn to be seen. It's my turn 157 00:09:44,940 --> 00:09:50,449 S3: to let you be the Savior I need. when I've 158 00:09:50,490 --> 00:10:00,130 S3: got nowhere to turn. But Jesus, I turn it all over. 159 00:10:01,690 --> 00:10:07,250 S3: Won't you turn it around? Turn it around. I'm screaming 160 00:10:07,250 --> 00:10:15,330 S3: my prayers to heaven I turn it all over. Won't 161 00:10:15,330 --> 00:10:20,930 S3: you turn it around? Turn it around. I'm screaming my 162 00:10:20,929 --> 00:10:28,809 S3: prayers to heaven I'll turn it all over. Won't you 163 00:10:28,850 --> 00:10:31,130 S3: turn it around? Turn it around. 164 00:10:37,290 --> 00:10:40,370 S1: Straight from the heart. The music of Ben Fuller today. 165 00:10:40,370 --> 00:10:43,370 S1: And if you go to Chris Fabry live, you'll see 166 00:10:43,370 --> 00:10:46,170 S1: the new album that these songs are coming from, walk 167 00:10:46,210 --> 00:10:49,120 S1: Through fire. If you have a chance to see and 168 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,360 S1: hear Ben in person. Do it. We have a link 169 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:56,880 S1: to his website for more music from the Heart straight 170 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,359 S1: ahead on Moody Radio. 171 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,479 S3: I turn it all over. Won't you turn it around? 172 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:23,760 S3: Turn it around. If it was up to me. There'd 173 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,080 S3: be no gravel roads, no guns, no blisters on my soul. 174 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,679 S3: Rain might come. But it wouldn't come for me. If 175 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,720 S3: it was up to me I'd take the easy ride. 176 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,840 S3: But I'd miss the grace that changed my life. Thank 177 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:44,160 S3: God I'm not the one in charge of things. I'd 178 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,630 S3: never know how good your plans could be if it 179 00:11:48,630 --> 00:11:49,750 S3: was up to me. 180 00:11:50,870 --> 00:11:51,830 S4: This is Chris Fabry. 181 00:11:51,830 --> 00:11:54,510 S1: Live on Moody Radio. Thank you so much for joining us. 182 00:11:54,510 --> 00:11:57,110 S1: It's so fun to sit down with Ben Fuller. He 183 00:11:57,110 --> 00:12:00,750 S1: is in the studio. I am in Tucson, Arizona, but 184 00:12:00,750 --> 00:12:02,910 S1: we can see each other. So it's a it's a 185 00:12:02,950 --> 00:12:06,390 S1: cool thing. Uh. Walk Through Fire is our featured resource. 186 00:12:06,390 --> 00:12:08,910 S1: You're hearing music from the album as we go in 187 00:12:08,910 --> 00:12:12,110 S1: and out of the program and then live in the studio, 188 00:12:12,390 --> 00:12:14,870 S1: I have all these questions that are running around my 189 00:12:14,870 --> 00:12:17,870 S1: mind from two years ago, because two years ago you 190 00:12:17,910 --> 00:12:19,670 S1: came and you said, yeah, I'm kind of I don't 191 00:12:19,670 --> 00:12:21,030 S1: know if it was on the air or off the air, 192 00:12:21,030 --> 00:12:23,750 S1: but I'm kind of serious about this girl. And then 193 00:12:23,750 --> 00:12:27,350 S1: you just said, yeah, I had this breakup. Yeah. And 194 00:12:27,350 --> 00:12:30,190 S1: it's like, that's where the seeds of some really great 195 00:12:30,190 --> 00:12:35,189 S1: songs come from. The heartbreak. Right? Yeah. Um, so you 196 00:12:35,230 --> 00:12:37,070 S1: don't have to tell me anything that you don't want, 197 00:12:37,429 --> 00:12:40,390 S1: that you don't want to tell me. But it sounds 198 00:12:40,390 --> 00:12:45,030 S1: to me like, uh, God is doing something inside of 199 00:12:45,030 --> 00:12:47,950 S1: your heart with the cracks and the fissures that you're 200 00:12:47,950 --> 00:12:50,070 S1: going through relationally. Is that true? 201 00:12:50,110 --> 00:12:53,750 S2: Yeah, it's absolutely true. Yeah, I, I realized, you know, 202 00:12:53,790 --> 00:12:57,350 S2: some of the things it's it's just crazy, um, about myself. 203 00:12:57,350 --> 00:12:59,630 S2: God has just been working so mightily on me and 204 00:12:59,630 --> 00:13:03,750 S2: realizing that, um, I run when things get bad and 205 00:13:03,750 --> 00:13:06,070 S2: when there's a problem, when there's an issue. You know, 206 00:13:06,110 --> 00:13:09,430 S2: I just literally read Jonah last night laying in bed, 207 00:13:09,429 --> 00:13:11,949 S2: and I was just I was I was like, he's like, nope. 208 00:13:11,990 --> 00:13:14,270 S2: I'm I'm actually I'm going to hop a ship. I'm 209 00:13:14,270 --> 00:13:16,790 S2: out of here. Um, by God, I want nothing to 210 00:13:16,790 --> 00:13:18,590 S2: do with going to the place that you want to 211 00:13:18,590 --> 00:13:21,870 S2: bring me. And, um, there's so many times in my 212 00:13:21,870 --> 00:13:25,390 S2: life recently that, um, I can relate to all that, but, yeah, 213 00:13:25,429 --> 00:13:28,390 S2: I again, I thought I had a plan in my life. 214 00:13:28,390 --> 00:13:30,709 S2: I was like, yeah, yeah, this this sounds great, looks great. 215 00:13:30,710 --> 00:13:32,790 S2: It's going to be great. And God was like, but 216 00:13:32,790 --> 00:13:35,310 S2: this isn't what I have for you. And I took 217 00:13:35,309 --> 00:13:38,110 S2: it so hard. And, um, there's some things in my 218 00:13:38,110 --> 00:13:41,429 S2: past just from running from my dad, from running when 219 00:13:41,470 --> 00:13:44,780 S2: things got bad at home. Um, that that are coming 220 00:13:44,780 --> 00:13:48,700 S2: out in me. Six years later, after saying yes to Jesus, 221 00:13:48,700 --> 00:13:51,180 S2: I'm realizing a lot of this stuff is still. He's 222 00:13:51,179 --> 00:13:53,900 S2: like opening up these cracks and fissures in my heart. 223 00:13:53,900 --> 00:13:55,740 S2: And he's just like, I need to take that out. 224 00:13:55,740 --> 00:13:57,300 S2: I also need to take that out, and I need 225 00:13:57,300 --> 00:13:59,260 S2: to take that out. And we're going to stitch that 226 00:13:59,260 --> 00:14:02,339 S2: back up. I'm going to stitch that back up, you know. 227 00:14:02,380 --> 00:14:04,820 S2: And so it's been really, really powerful. But yeah, I, 228 00:14:05,020 --> 00:14:07,179 S2: I my heart was broke. I mean I and I 229 00:14:07,179 --> 00:14:09,820 S2: literally realized that I had nowhere to turn but Jesus. 230 00:14:10,940 --> 00:14:14,340 S1: You know, uh, and I'm down the road 25 or 231 00:14:14,500 --> 00:14:17,060 S1: a little more years than you. But here's the thing 232 00:14:17,059 --> 00:14:20,020 S1: that I keep coming back to, and that is, uh, 233 00:14:20,180 --> 00:14:23,660 S1: the work that God is doing in you late 30s. 234 00:14:24,100 --> 00:14:27,260 S1: He's still doing in me. I'm learning. I'm seeing things 235 00:14:27,260 --> 00:14:29,740 S1: from my childhood that are bubbling back up to me. 236 00:14:29,740 --> 00:14:32,820 S1: It's like, wow, why is that coming back here? Why 237 00:14:32,820 --> 00:14:36,460 S1: am I being controlled by that thing way back there? 238 00:14:36,620 --> 00:14:39,620 S1: You know, that happened to me. And it's a choice. 239 00:14:40,420 --> 00:14:43,010 S1: It's a grace for God to let you see it, 240 00:14:43,010 --> 00:14:44,090 S1: I think. Don't you? 241 00:14:44,130 --> 00:14:46,810 S2: Yeah, I do too. And and the question is, are 242 00:14:46,810 --> 00:14:48,690 S2: you going to give it to him? Are you going 243 00:14:48,690 --> 00:14:50,490 S2: to turn that over? Are you going to hand it over? 244 00:14:50,490 --> 00:14:52,690 S2: And a lot of times it's like I saw it 245 00:14:52,690 --> 00:14:54,850 S2: and was like, man, I don't want to do this anymore. 246 00:14:54,890 --> 00:14:57,170 S2: And I think we have that choice to to ask 247 00:14:57,170 --> 00:14:58,650 S2: the Lord. It's like, well, you come in, will you 248 00:14:58,690 --> 00:15:00,690 S2: heal this then will you take this then? Thank you 249 00:15:00,690 --> 00:15:04,610 S2: for showing me that I. Help me not do that again. 250 00:15:04,650 --> 00:15:07,010 S2: You know, and so many times I find myself in 251 00:15:07,010 --> 00:15:11,610 S2: similar situations of wanting to run, and, um, it seems 252 00:15:11,610 --> 00:15:13,410 S2: to be less and less, though, almost like it was 253 00:15:13,410 --> 00:15:17,290 S2: with the alcohol of. Just like he showed me more 254 00:15:17,290 --> 00:15:20,010 S2: and more how much he loves me, but also to 255 00:15:20,050 --> 00:15:22,250 S2: just go to him first, you know, come to me, 256 00:15:22,250 --> 00:15:24,970 S2: all ye who are weary. You know, it's like, don't 257 00:15:24,970 --> 00:15:28,290 S2: forget to run to me with this. And, um, you know, 258 00:15:28,330 --> 00:15:30,650 S2: I'm just I'm kind of thick headed and a lot 259 00:15:30,650 --> 00:15:32,690 S2: of things, and and I'm like, I'm a man. I 260 00:15:32,690 --> 00:15:35,090 S2: can handle this, I can. I'm strong, I'm tough. I can, 261 00:15:35,130 --> 00:15:36,850 S2: you know? And it's like, yeah, right. No I'm not. 262 00:15:36,890 --> 00:15:38,890 S2: I'm a big. And then I'm down on my knees 263 00:15:39,170 --> 00:15:42,530 S2: bawling like a little baby. I'm like, I'm actually not. 264 00:15:42,570 --> 00:15:45,890 S2: Help me Lord. So yeah, it's been cool to watch. 265 00:15:46,130 --> 00:15:49,370 S1: It's interesting in your music and in your lyrics how 266 00:15:49,370 --> 00:15:52,330 S1: much this comes up, how much the running is or 267 00:15:52,330 --> 00:15:56,570 S1: going down the wrong path. And even in that last song, turn, 268 00:15:56,890 --> 00:15:59,850 S1: chase me down. You know, the hound of heaven that's 269 00:15:59,850 --> 00:16:03,490 S1: coming after you. That's a theme in your life that 270 00:16:03,490 --> 00:16:04,770 S1: it just comes up naturally. 271 00:16:05,130 --> 00:16:07,130 S2: Yeah, yeah. And I don't know, I mean, I just 272 00:16:07,130 --> 00:16:11,730 S2: I really realized that, um, you know, Paul said I'd 273 00:16:11,730 --> 00:16:14,650 S2: like to die and be with my savior. Um, but 274 00:16:14,650 --> 00:16:17,330 S2: it's to your benefit, uh, that I stay here and 275 00:16:17,330 --> 00:16:20,170 S2: preach the gospel in hopes to save some. And so 276 00:16:20,210 --> 00:16:23,210 S2: it's like I realized that I've been saved, what I've 277 00:16:23,210 --> 00:16:27,130 S2: been saved from. And, um. And I ran my whole life, 278 00:16:27,170 --> 00:16:30,010 S2: you know, and so to be able to to sing 279 00:16:30,010 --> 00:16:32,930 S2: about it, to be able to talk about it and, 280 00:16:32,930 --> 00:16:36,130 S2: but now to be able to have an answer, you know, 281 00:16:36,170 --> 00:16:39,960 S2: for it all and just say, hey, it's Jesus who 282 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,960 S2: I was looking for, who I was running for, and 283 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,800 S2: maybe who I was running from. In a lot of instances, 284 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,000 S2: I was like, I don't want to face that. I 285 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,960 S2: don't want to face him, you know? Um, so. 286 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,600 S1: Even those who've been walking the trail, though, will have 287 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,040 S1: these not a capital R run, but a small R, 288 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,320 S1: you know. Well, just a little detour. 289 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,240 S2: Yeah. Is the grass greener on the other side? Exactly. 290 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,680 S2: And then I think when you get there, it's like. 291 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,119 S2: That's why I pray for the consequences, Chris. And I 292 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,600 S2: think it's cool because the Lord has shown me. And 293 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,240 S2: it might sound weird, but I'm like, Lord, will you 294 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,320 S2: show me what happens if I do drink 12 beers? Like, Lord, 295 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,560 S2: will you show me, um, if I do try to 296 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,000 S2: to to, you know, message this girl or do these 297 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,920 S2: things or whatever, it's like, will you show me the 298 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,320 S2: end result of that stuff? If I'm walking in my 299 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,480 S2: flesh and I'm trying to do things, I'm like, Will 300 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,520 S2: you show me what happens? Um. And that literally every 301 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,080 S2: time I get out there, the grass is not greener 302 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,310 S2: on the other side. God has put people in my 303 00:17:39,310 --> 00:17:41,870 S2: life with that have that have been so blessed with 304 00:17:41,869 --> 00:17:44,710 S2: lots of money and, and properties and, and all kinds 305 00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:47,190 S2: of stuff. And they've told me the same thing. They're like, well, 306 00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:50,510 S2: we thought this might fix, but it didn't. We thought 307 00:17:50,510 --> 00:17:53,630 S2: that this would, but it didn't. And so it's like, man, 308 00:17:53,670 --> 00:17:56,550 S2: we've the only one is Jesus. And so they've had 309 00:17:56,550 --> 00:17:59,310 S2: to come back down and and meet him. You know. 310 00:17:59,590 --> 00:18:04,030 S1: You can see that, uh, even recently with Christian musicians 311 00:18:04,030 --> 00:18:07,790 S1: and pastors and leaders and others who have fallen, that's, 312 00:18:07,990 --> 00:18:11,150 S1: you know, who didn't want to, but they did. Yeah. Uh, 313 00:18:11,150 --> 00:18:13,869 S1: or they made these choices that led to other choices 314 00:18:13,869 --> 00:18:16,830 S1: that led to other choices. And that is the logical 315 00:18:16,830 --> 00:18:19,790 S1: conclusion every time when you go down that wrong path. 316 00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:22,310 S2: Yeah. Shame is a shame is an awful thing. And 317 00:18:22,310 --> 00:18:26,230 S2: once you get into a spiral of feeling that way and, um, 318 00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:29,230 S2: that's why, you know, last week I, um, I was 319 00:18:29,230 --> 00:18:33,710 S2: talking to my band and I've got 11 guys, um, 320 00:18:34,190 --> 00:18:36,430 S2: that have been out on the road, and it's just 321 00:18:36,590 --> 00:18:38,949 S2: it's been so beautiful and amazing, but it's like, man, 322 00:18:39,109 --> 00:18:41,670 S2: I need you. That's why it's so important to surround 323 00:18:41,670 --> 00:18:44,030 S2: yourself with people that love Jesus more than you. And 324 00:18:44,030 --> 00:18:46,550 S2: it's like, man, I need you guys to hold me accountable. 325 00:18:46,550 --> 00:18:48,350 S2: I need you guys to check in on me. I 326 00:18:48,350 --> 00:18:50,830 S2: need you guys to see when I'm having a bad day, 327 00:18:50,830 --> 00:18:52,510 S2: when I'm having a good day, to see that I'm 328 00:18:52,510 --> 00:18:55,950 S2: human and to remind me who my God is, who 329 00:18:55,950 --> 00:18:57,950 S2: my Savior is, and that I can run to him 330 00:18:57,950 --> 00:19:00,109 S2: with all that stuff. And so a lot of times, 331 00:19:00,150 --> 00:19:03,550 S2: you know, I'll have tough conversations with my guys because 332 00:19:03,550 --> 00:19:05,869 S2: it's like, man, I'm just I'm in a bad place 333 00:19:05,869 --> 00:19:07,669 S2: last night, or I looked at something last night that 334 00:19:07,670 --> 00:19:12,430 S2: I shouldn't have or, you know, I just I'm feeling depressed. Uh, 335 00:19:12,430 --> 00:19:16,390 S2: the comparison thing is wicked also, you know, and it's 336 00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:19,350 S2: like I look at someone like Brandon Lake and I'm like, man, 337 00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:22,030 S2: I love Brandon Lake. And he's one of my good buddies. 338 00:19:22,030 --> 00:19:23,750 S2: But I also am like, well, how come I'm not 339 00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:25,990 S2: playing stadiums? And how come I'm not doing a song 340 00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:27,870 S2: with Jelly Roll? And how come I'm not doing this? 341 00:19:27,869 --> 00:19:30,510 S2: And how come I it's just wicked and it'll and 342 00:19:30,510 --> 00:19:32,510 S2: it eats me up, you know, a lot of times 343 00:19:32,510 --> 00:19:34,950 S2: and so but I realized that I'm looking to him 344 00:19:34,990 --> 00:19:37,540 S2: for my affirmation. And that's not right. No. I look 345 00:19:37,540 --> 00:19:42,859 S2: to Jesus. Um. He's the Lord of my life, you know? Um. So, yeah. 346 00:19:42,940 --> 00:19:45,340 S1: Maybe Jelly Roll is listening now, and he'll call you up. 347 00:19:45,380 --> 00:19:48,340 S2: Yeah, maybe he is. I'd love to. Just pray. I'd love. 348 00:19:48,380 --> 00:19:49,899 S2: I'd love to. Just give him a big hug and 349 00:19:49,900 --> 00:19:51,860 S2: pray for him, you know, and just say, man, we're 350 00:19:51,859 --> 00:19:53,460 S2: in this together. And I love you, and I'm proud 351 00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:56,619 S2: of you. You know that. That's all I would say. But, um, 352 00:19:56,660 --> 00:19:58,580 S2: God puts people in your life for a mighty reason. 353 00:19:58,580 --> 00:20:03,220 S2: And my band, um, I could not do this without 354 00:20:03,220 --> 00:20:06,460 S2: my band. Because they love Jesus more than me. And 355 00:20:06,460 --> 00:20:08,980 S2: they remind me always why we do this. 356 00:20:09,660 --> 00:20:13,260 S1: The new album is Walk Through Fire, but. And each 357 00:20:13,260 --> 00:20:15,860 S1: of these songs, you gotta hear Black Sheep. We're going 358 00:20:15,900 --> 00:20:17,820 S1: to play that in a minute. But each of these 359 00:20:17,820 --> 00:20:21,420 S1: songs really is about the identity that we have, and 360 00:20:21,420 --> 00:20:23,620 S1: that's the song that I think most people know you 361 00:20:23,619 --> 00:20:27,100 S1: from is who I am. Who I am is not 362 00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:31,140 S1: a comparison to anybody else. It's who you've made me 363 00:20:31,140 --> 00:20:34,970 S1: to be, who you've called me uniquely to be. And 364 00:20:34,970 --> 00:20:36,530 S1: I'd like for you to sing a little bit of 365 00:20:36,570 --> 00:20:37,449 S1: that for us today. 366 00:20:37,650 --> 00:20:38,010 S2: I will. 367 00:20:42,170 --> 00:20:46,970 S3: I stand in front of the mirror, but I don't 368 00:20:46,970 --> 00:20:49,850 S3: like was looking back at me. Wish I could see 369 00:20:49,890 --> 00:20:56,130 S3: things clearer. Or like who I'm supposed to be. And 370 00:20:56,130 --> 00:21:02,930 S3: every trial. Lift me higher through the fire. Hold me tighter. 371 00:21:03,330 --> 00:21:10,490 S3: Remind me again that I was made for more. It's 372 00:21:10,490 --> 00:21:14,130 S3: who I am in the eyes of the father. Who 373 00:21:14,130 --> 00:21:18,570 S3: I am. His love set free. Who I was. I 374 00:21:18,609 --> 00:21:23,409 S3: left at the altar. I am yours. Lord, I believe 375 00:21:24,970 --> 00:21:28,210 S3: it's who I am. I'm a child of the Most 376 00:21:28,210 --> 00:21:33,280 S3: High God. The Most High God's for me, who I am. 377 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,600 S3: I'm a child of the Most High God, the most 378 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:45,399 S3: High God's for me. Because everything has been changing. Well, 379 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:50,320 S3: you haven't left a stone unturned. Anything I've been facing 380 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:56,080 S3: or where I keep standing on your word in the water. 381 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:01,040 S3: Take me under. Fill my lungs to speak your wonder. 382 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,160 S3: You brought me out of the darkness I was made 383 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:10,720 S3: for more. It's who I am in the eyes of 384 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:15,560 S3: the father. Who I am. His love set free who 385 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,200 S3: I was I left at the altar. I am yours, Lord. 386 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:25,840 S3: I believe it's who I am. I'm a child of 387 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,680 S3: the Most High God, the Most High God's for me, 388 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,200 S3: who I am. I'm a child of the Most High God, 389 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,000 S3: the most high God's for me. Cause you gave up 390 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:45,840 S3: everything for me. To have everything for all of eternity. 391 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,280 S3: A song in my lungs to sing. Cause you gave 392 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:59,560 S3: up everything for me. To have everything for all of eternity. 393 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:06,800 S3: A song in my lungs to see. I'm a child 394 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,240 S3: of the most high God. And the most high God's 395 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:15,520 S3: for me I'm a child of the most high God. 396 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:20,879 S3: And the most high God's for me. That's who I 397 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,760 S3: am in the eyes of the father. Who I am. 398 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,000 S3: His love set free. Who I was I left at 399 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:35,629 S3: the altar, I am yours, Lord. I believe it's who 400 00:23:35,630 --> 00:23:39,070 S3: I am. I'm a child of the Most High God, 401 00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:43,430 S3: the Most High God's for me, who I am. I'm 402 00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:46,750 S3: a child of the Most High God, the most high 403 00:23:46,790 --> 00:23:53,350 S3: God's for me. Because I'm a child of the Most 404 00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:58,830 S3: High God and the Most High God's for me. I'm 405 00:23:58,830 --> 00:24:01,870 S3: a child of the Most High God and the Most 406 00:24:01,869 --> 00:24:03,590 S3: High God's for me. 407 00:24:06,109 --> 00:24:09,230 S1: Ben Fuller, you've heard that song. You had no idea 408 00:24:09,230 --> 00:24:11,390 S1: when you wrote that song, how far it would go 409 00:24:11,390 --> 00:24:14,709 S1: and how many people would be singing it. But it's 410 00:24:14,710 --> 00:24:19,230 S1: true that transformation is is real. You could see it 411 00:24:19,230 --> 00:24:22,510 S1: in your own life, but it's a daily choice that 412 00:24:22,510 --> 00:24:25,070 S1: you have to make to to say, okay, this is 413 00:24:25,070 --> 00:24:26,870 S1: this is who I am, right? 414 00:24:26,910 --> 00:24:30,500 S2: Yeah. I've sung that song probably a 1000 1500 2000. 415 00:24:30,660 --> 00:24:33,340 S2: I have no idea how many times. And last fall, 416 00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:38,780 S2: the Lord really ministered to my life. Um, I was 417 00:24:38,780 --> 00:24:43,979 S2: on stage and I'm singing that song and he's like, yeah, 418 00:24:43,980 --> 00:24:47,460 S2: you're no longer a drug addict. You're no longer a loser. 419 00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:51,740 S2: You're no longer a womanizer. You're no longer an alcoholic. 420 00:24:51,940 --> 00:24:54,020 S2: You're no longer all these things that people said to 421 00:24:54,020 --> 00:24:57,379 S2: you were, no, you're mine. You're a child of the 422 00:24:57,380 --> 00:25:00,900 S2: Most High God. You're your mind, I love you. And 423 00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:03,220 S2: I was just, like, on stage. I just totally broke 424 00:25:03,220 --> 00:25:06,260 S2: down because it wrecked me. Because it's all the times 425 00:25:06,260 --> 00:25:08,540 S2: that I've sung this song over and over and over 426 00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:10,380 S2: and over is that he was trying to tell me 427 00:25:10,420 --> 00:25:14,100 S2: my identity the whole time. And so I'm just grateful 428 00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:16,980 S2: for how these songs minister to me. And it's like, look, 429 00:25:17,020 --> 00:25:20,500 S2: four years later, like this song really, really like filled 430 00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:22,419 S2: one of those little fissures in my heart, you know, 431 00:25:22,460 --> 00:25:25,900 S2: because it was just like, oh my goodness. He does like, whoa, whoa. 432 00:25:25,940 --> 00:25:28,100 S2: He really does. Like, this is real. this is real. 433 00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:30,220 S2: I have these moments all the time. Yeah. 434 00:25:30,740 --> 00:25:33,179 S1: Well, and that's true for you, friend. As you listen today, 435 00:25:33,180 --> 00:25:35,459 S1: I hope you're hearing that come through from Ben Fuller. 436 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:38,060 S1: The new album, Walk Through Fire. You have to hear 437 00:25:38,060 --> 00:25:40,780 S1: the song that's coming up straight ahead. This is Chris 438 00:25:40,820 --> 00:25:44,900 S1: Fabry live on Moody Radio. Go to Chris Fabry, Livorno. 439 00:25:45,220 --> 00:25:48,140 S1: You can find out more about Ben Link to his 440 00:25:48,140 --> 00:25:52,139 S1: website and that new album Walk Through Fire. 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For 464 00:27:10,369 --> 00:27:14,330 S2: all that. Um, but it's it's, uh. Man, it's crazy 465 00:27:14,369 --> 00:27:19,169 S2: how God, it's even got, um, an old milk barn on, 466 00:27:19,170 --> 00:27:21,570 S2: on the property, and I and so I'm, I'm laughing 467 00:27:21,570 --> 00:27:23,970 S2: because I'm like, well, isn't that just like my Lord 468 00:27:23,970 --> 00:27:26,359 S2: and Savior, right? Isn't that just like my father in 469 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,680 S2: heaven to bring me right back to where it all 470 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,560 S2: began and and put down brand new roots, you know, 471 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,760 S2: brand new roots? I was thinking about the gardens and 472 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,560 S2: and the animals and just the stuff. And, um, anyway, 473 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,800 S2: someone asked me, he says, are you going to get 474 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,760 S2: any you're going to get any animals out there, you know? 475 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,560 S2: And I said, yeah, I'm going to get some black sheep. 476 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,520 S2: That's what I'm going to get. 477 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,560 S1: See that it all goes back to that. But you mentioned, 478 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,400 S1: you know, the struggle with your dad and the love 479 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,720 S1: of your dad and then choosing to see God's love. 480 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,439 S1: You know that that is a choice. But it's a 481 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,480 S1: hard thing to overcome because you've got those tapes playing, right? 482 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,560 S2: Yeah. Yeah, it really does. And my relationship with my father, um, 483 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,960 S2: you know, it started really rough and tough and, you know, 484 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,120 S2: it was passed down from his dad to him, to me, 485 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,680 S2: you know, and just love wasn't abundant in our household. 486 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,800 S2: And I just want to encourage you, um, now that 487 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:24,030 S2: I've given my life to Christ, I'm watching my dad. Um, my, 488 00:28:24,109 --> 00:28:27,350 S2: the last conversation I had with my dad, he ended 489 00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:28,870 S2: it with. I love you, son. 490 00:28:29,270 --> 00:28:29,590 S1: Ah. 491 00:28:29,790 --> 00:28:33,630 S2: And so I'm just here to say that I've done nothing. 492 00:28:33,670 --> 00:28:35,630 S2: A lot of times that's what's so hard about this. 493 00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:37,470 S2: It's so hard about addiction. It's so hard about those 494 00:28:37,470 --> 00:28:40,030 S2: things as we wait, you know, for a loved one 495 00:28:40,030 --> 00:28:42,350 S2: to either give their life to Christ or to to 496 00:28:42,390 --> 00:28:45,910 S2: just be done with the things that they're doing. God 497 00:28:45,910 --> 00:28:47,950 S2: has to be the one to do that. And so 498 00:28:47,950 --> 00:28:50,350 S2: all we can do is fix our eyes on Jesus, right? 499 00:28:50,350 --> 00:28:52,190 S2: And walk this thing out. And that's all I'm doing 500 00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:54,990 S2: is fixing my eyes on Christ, and I'm watching God 501 00:28:54,990 --> 00:28:58,910 S2: come in and just, just, just had my dad's heart. 502 00:28:59,310 --> 00:29:03,870 S2: He's just turning. So it's turning to love and and 503 00:29:03,870 --> 00:29:06,750 S2: it's just amazing to to say that to my dad 504 00:29:06,750 --> 00:29:07,950 S2: and have him say it back. 505 00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:10,630 S1: So and the it's a process, you know, you had 506 00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:12,350 S1: to wait a long time. You had to go through 507 00:29:12,350 --> 00:29:15,190 S1: a lot. I'm I'm enamored. I'm going to give you 508 00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:17,430 S1: a song idea. You're going to have to write this. Yeah. 509 00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:18,990 S1: Let's hear it. Maybe you already have. Let's hear it. 510 00:29:19,230 --> 00:29:23,830 S1: And it's around the word fix. Because an addict is 511 00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:27,310 S1: looking for a fix. Meaning got to get to that 512 00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:30,870 S1: high again. I've got to get numb again. I don't 513 00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:33,750 S1: like what I'm feeling. So I got to get a fix. 514 00:29:34,270 --> 00:29:38,430 S1: And I think a lot of Christians want life fixed too, 515 00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:42,430 S1: because we're uncomfortable with what God has brought us through 516 00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:46,430 S1: to and through, you know? And we want everything neat 517 00:29:46,430 --> 00:29:50,990 S1: and tidy. But the fix that God has for us 518 00:29:51,030 --> 00:29:55,270 S1: is starts in the heart and then works itself out. 519 00:29:55,310 --> 00:29:55,750 S2: Wow. 520 00:29:55,790 --> 00:29:56,470 S1: Does that make sense? 521 00:29:56,510 --> 00:29:59,150 S2: Are you a songwriter? I mean, have you thought about 522 00:29:59,150 --> 00:30:01,630 S2: moving to Nashville and getting a gig and. 523 00:30:01,870 --> 00:30:03,390 S1: Going to live in your milk bar? 524 00:30:04,350 --> 00:30:08,510 S2: Praise God. Hey, I'm Chris Fabry, live from Ben's milk barn. 525 00:30:09,310 --> 00:30:11,310 S2: We've got some more Jesus coming up for you right 526 00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:13,190 S2: after my next songwriting session. 527 00:30:14,110 --> 00:30:17,990 S1: No, that's. But that. Isn't that because I am enamored 528 00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:20,870 S1: with the comfortable life? God, give me the comfortable life 529 00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:24,100 S1: I don't want to go through this relationally struggle at all. 530 00:30:24,380 --> 00:30:27,140 S1: I want I want it fixed, and God cares too 531 00:30:27,140 --> 00:30:31,300 S1: much for us to give us what we think we want, 532 00:30:31,340 --> 00:30:33,220 S1: because what we really want is him. 533 00:30:33,260 --> 00:30:34,100 S2: Yeah. Wow. 534 00:30:34,340 --> 00:30:38,060 S1: Which takes us to the song that you have been 535 00:30:38,060 --> 00:30:41,740 S1: singing from this new album that is is catching on. 536 00:30:41,740 --> 00:30:44,060 S1: People are grabbing on to this. Why do you think 537 00:30:44,060 --> 00:30:44,700 S1: that is? 538 00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:48,900 S2: I don't know, other than it's just brutally honest. And, um, 539 00:30:48,940 --> 00:30:50,540 S2: you know, I just kind of laid it all out there. 540 00:30:50,540 --> 00:30:53,580 S2: It's funny, the record label will admit that they didn't 541 00:30:53,580 --> 00:30:57,580 S2: want to even cut this song. Um, and they've apologized 542 00:30:57,580 --> 00:31:00,380 S2: to me, and and they've they've come to me and said, man, 543 00:31:00,420 --> 00:31:03,780 S2: we're just we know that you fought for this song 544 00:31:04,180 --> 00:31:05,980 S2: time and time again. And this was one of those 545 00:31:05,980 --> 00:31:08,060 S2: songs that I really had to fight for. I went 546 00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:11,780 S2: into the to the, um, to the writing room with 547 00:31:11,780 --> 00:31:15,900 S2: two amazing songwriters, Tony Wood and Michael Farren, and sat 548 00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:17,300 S2: down and they just said, man, what do you want 549 00:31:17,300 --> 00:31:18,979 S2: to write about today? You know, and it was we 550 00:31:19,020 --> 00:31:21,250 S2: were writing for this record and I was like, man, 551 00:31:21,250 --> 00:31:24,010 S2: I'm just, I don't know, I don't want to sugarcoat anything. 552 00:31:24,010 --> 00:31:27,610 S2: I just this is really my life on display. Um, 553 00:31:27,610 --> 00:31:31,690 S2: I don't want to just fill people with words, um, and, 554 00:31:31,690 --> 00:31:35,690 S2: and sing them empty, like, you know, I don't I, 555 00:31:35,730 --> 00:31:39,370 S2: I want to believe it myself. Um, so how do we, 556 00:31:39,410 --> 00:31:40,850 S2: how do we do that? And it's like, man, I 557 00:31:40,850 --> 00:31:42,650 S2: just I just want to write a song for the 558 00:31:42,650 --> 00:31:45,810 S2: black sheep. You know, I'm meeting so many people that 559 00:31:45,810 --> 00:31:49,170 S2: are telling me that I'm the black sheep of my family, um, 560 00:31:49,210 --> 00:31:51,490 S2: that I'm that I don't feel welcome at church, that 561 00:31:51,490 --> 00:31:53,410 S2: I don't feel like I'm good enough to even step 562 00:31:53,410 --> 00:31:55,930 S2: foot into church, that I feel like I'd set the 563 00:31:55,930 --> 00:31:58,729 S2: place on fire if I walked into church. And the 564 00:31:58,730 --> 00:32:01,930 S2: truth is, no, actually, you leave on fire if you 565 00:32:01,930 --> 00:32:04,209 S2: step foot into church. And so how do how do 566 00:32:04,210 --> 00:32:06,050 S2: I sing a song like that? You know. And so 567 00:32:06,090 --> 00:32:08,530 S2: I just I wanted to write a song about about me, 568 00:32:08,570 --> 00:32:15,410 S2: you know, and, um, so. Yeah, this song's called Black Sheep. Who? 569 00:32:28,690 --> 00:32:35,570 S3: You broke through a thousand fences. I've been rescued from 570 00:32:35,570 --> 00:32:41,969 S3: a thousand ditches. But you still swear you don't fit in. 571 00:32:41,970 --> 00:32:45,970 S3: So you kick and scream and you're gone again. Wandering 572 00:32:45,970 --> 00:32:53,450 S3: off into the devil's wind. How's it going out there? 573 00:32:54,250 --> 00:32:59,210 S3: Acting like you ain't scared. And how's that hard stone? 574 00:32:59,490 --> 00:33:04,690 S3: Ain't so hard when you're alone. Crying tears you hope 575 00:33:04,690 --> 00:33:10,970 S3: nobody sees. Guess the good news is he'll never leave 576 00:33:11,010 --> 00:33:28,280 S3: you be. Cause Jesus loves you. Black sheep. You hate 577 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:36,480 S3: everything about you. And you think we're better off without you. 578 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,000 S3: So you wear your pain out on your sleeve. And 579 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,160 S3: you paint it on in a rebel ink. But the 580 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:50,280 S3: alcohol and pills ain't fixed a thing. So how's it 581 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:56,000 S3: goin out there? Actin like you ain't scared. And how's 582 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:02,760 S3: that hard stone? Ain't so hard when you're alone. Crying tears. 583 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:09,040 S3: You hope nobody sees. Guess the good news is he'll 584 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:14,600 S3: never leave you be. Cause Jesus loves you. Black sheep. 585 00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:39,110 S3: Jesus loves you, black sheep. I can't tell you when 586 00:34:39,110 --> 00:34:44,350 S3: I ain't no prophet. But there'll come a point in 587 00:34:44,350 --> 00:34:50,270 S3: time when you can't stop it. The good shepherd's love 588 00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:54,950 S3: smells like smoke. There ain't no hell so low. Where 589 00:34:54,950 --> 00:35:01,470 S3: he won't let the hounds of heaven go. SIC em. 590 00:35:01,469 --> 00:35:06,950 S3: Let the hound of heaven go. But how's it goin 591 00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:12,230 S3: out there? Acting like you ain't scared. And how's that 592 00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:18,540 S3: heart of stone ain't so hard when you're alone. Crying tears. 593 00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:24,900 S3: You hope nobody sees. Guess the good news is he'll 594 00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:31,219 S3: never leave you be. And amazing Grace. It's a pesky, 595 00:35:31,219 --> 00:35:37,420 S3: pesky thing. But the good news is he'll never leave 596 00:35:37,420 --> 00:35:54,740 S3: you be. Cause Jesus loves you, black sheep. Jesus loves you, 597 00:35:54,739 --> 00:36:15,060 S3: black sheep. Who? 598 00:36:21,820 --> 00:36:25,020 S1: That song for you. Because we're all black sheep. We 599 00:36:25,060 --> 00:36:28,860 S1: are all running away in some way. From the love 600 00:36:28,860 --> 00:36:31,740 S1: of God and that hound of heaven. I just find 601 00:36:31,739 --> 00:36:34,339 S1: that really interesting. Here it comes again. The hound of 602 00:36:34,340 --> 00:36:37,980 S1: heaven is coming for you. I wrote down Chase Me 603 00:36:38,020 --> 00:36:42,020 S1: Down from the first song. You were made for more. 604 00:36:42,739 --> 00:36:45,259 S1: And the hound of heaven won't let you go. And 605 00:36:45,260 --> 00:36:49,020 S1: when you sing. Uh, how's it going? You know. How's 606 00:36:49,020 --> 00:36:51,140 S1: that working out for you? How's the. How are the 607 00:36:51,140 --> 00:36:53,299 S1: choices that you're making working out for you. And if 608 00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:57,380 S1: it's got you crying by yourself, you don't have to 609 00:36:57,420 --> 00:36:58,940 S1: stay alone, right? 610 00:36:58,980 --> 00:37:02,819 S2: Amen. Amen. Yeah, that's exactly that's exactly it. That was 611 00:37:02,820 --> 00:37:06,180 S2: me I was hiding, you know, and I was alone, 612 00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:09,140 S2: and I was afraid. And I was terrified that, you know, 613 00:37:09,180 --> 00:37:11,219 S2: nobody loved me. And then, you know, I heard about 614 00:37:11,219 --> 00:37:14,370 S2: this gospel, and his name was Jesus, and he died 615 00:37:14,370 --> 00:37:16,650 S2: for me. So I don't have to be alone, you know, 616 00:37:16,690 --> 00:37:18,250 S2: and that he that he loves me, that I have 617 00:37:18,250 --> 00:37:20,770 S2: a father in heaven who loves me. He's like even me. 618 00:37:20,810 --> 00:37:23,370 S2: Like after everything that I've done, after all the bad 619 00:37:23,370 --> 00:37:26,210 S2: things that I've done, the awful things that I've called people, 620 00:37:26,210 --> 00:37:28,930 S2: all the times that I've walked away from relationships and 621 00:37:29,130 --> 00:37:32,770 S2: and just just been terrible to people. You love me 622 00:37:33,170 --> 00:37:36,450 S2: even after that, you know? And so that's why I 623 00:37:36,450 --> 00:37:38,529 S2: gave my life to him, because nobody else has ever 624 00:37:38,530 --> 00:37:39,330 S2: done that for me. 625 00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:43,210 S1: Because most people think Christianity is you earn, you know, 626 00:37:43,250 --> 00:37:45,529 S1: are you do enough good things that he'll let you in. 627 00:37:45,570 --> 00:37:48,690 S1: It's like, no, no, you just have to realize you 628 00:37:48,890 --> 00:37:53,370 S1: you're not good enough for, for, for even to get 629 00:37:53,410 --> 00:37:57,290 S1: God's love. But but he come while we were yet sinners. 630 00:37:57,530 --> 00:38:00,569 S1: Christ died for us. Paid the ultimate price for you 631 00:38:00,570 --> 00:38:03,529 S1: and me. That's. He doesn't just say he loves us, 632 00:38:03,530 --> 00:38:06,610 S1: he shows it that way. And all of that comes 633 00:38:06,610 --> 00:38:09,770 S1: through your songs. On the new album Walk Through Fire. 634 00:38:09,810 --> 00:38:13,600 S1: Ben Fuller in the studio with us today. Don't call us. 635 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,040 S1: Continue listening. We've got more coming straight ahead. Go to Chris. 636 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,880 S1: Chris Fabriclive. 637 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,560 S3: Jesus loves you, black sheep. 638 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:34,360 S5: Who? 639 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:50,280 S3: Let. 640 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,080 S1: Ben Fuller is joining us at the radio backyard fence. 641 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,720 S1: Walk through fire is the album run Do Not Walk 642 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,320 S1: to get the album. You can see the link there 643 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,680 S1: and then where Ben is going to be singing over 644 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:09,799 S1: the next few weeks at Chris Fabriclive Chris Fabriclive We 645 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,960 S1: have enough time for you to sing one more song. 646 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,520 S1: And I want you to take us into this, because 647 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,480 S1: this is a song that you were a little reluctant 648 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,680 S1: right now because, you know, you got to practice this. 649 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,799 S1: You got to get this into your heart. But, you know, 650 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,000 S1: this is the one that we need to do now. Why? 651 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,000 S2: Yeah, the whole interview, the whole time we're talking, it's like, 652 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,359 S2: I ain't never been the same since. Jesus. Ain't a 653 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,240 S2: thing that hasn't changed since Jesus. He wrecked the plans 654 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,440 S2: of this broken man and turned a heart of stone 655 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,200 S2: to pieces. I ain't never been the same since Jesus. 656 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,040 S2: And I just felt like you're going to sing since Jesus. 657 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,960 S2: And I was like, well, no, I'm not. And the 658 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,120 S2: Holy Spirit's like, you're going to sing since Jesus, aren't you? 659 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,040 S2: And I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm uncomfortable. I barely 660 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,839 S2: play the guitar as it is. And so I'm like that. 661 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,520 S2: I'm like, I haven't even hardly learned all these songs 662 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,040 S2: myself on this album. It's funny because God gives you 663 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,640 S2: we we pray, right? He gives us the songs and 664 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,399 S2: then they just they come out and here they are. 665 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,149 S2: And so I'm literally like learning these songs, relearning these 666 00:40:10,150 --> 00:40:13,549 S2: songs that he gave to me this winter. And so they, like, 667 00:40:13,590 --> 00:40:16,469 S2: Fall Out. They're out there like these beautiful gifts, and 668 00:40:16,469 --> 00:40:20,830 S2: then I'm opening them later on, also reopening them again. 669 00:40:20,830 --> 00:40:22,509 S2: And so I don't really make. 670 00:40:22,510 --> 00:40:24,870 S1: A difference in you. It's not just, you know, for 671 00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:27,989 S1: the people who hear it, it's and that's what what 672 00:40:27,989 --> 00:40:30,150 S1: is the poet who said the no tears in the 673 00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:33,030 S1: writer no tears in the reader. Same thing for singers 674 00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:33,990 S1: and songwriters. 675 00:40:34,030 --> 00:40:36,390 S2: Yeah, yeah, the Lord is just. He's been ministering to 676 00:40:36,430 --> 00:40:39,149 S2: me through these songs, through my own songs. So, yeah, 677 00:40:39,550 --> 00:40:42,390 S2: as much as I like to, uh, to say that 678 00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:44,989 S2: that I'm, you know, I hope this blesses somebody, but 679 00:40:44,989 --> 00:40:47,430 S2: but yeah, these these are for me and these are 680 00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:50,310 S2: for him and from him. And so I'm just I'm 681 00:40:50,310 --> 00:40:52,950 S2: thankful for that. So we'll see if I can get 682 00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:53,550 S2: through it. 683 00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:56,469 S1: When he when you're weak he can be strong. Yeah. 684 00:40:56,469 --> 00:40:57,270 S1: That's let's hear it. 685 00:40:57,270 --> 00:41:00,069 S2: Yeah. That's right. The song is called uh, since. Jesus. 686 00:41:12,460 --> 00:41:16,820 S3: I thought that it'd be easy. But you never promised 687 00:41:16,820 --> 00:41:25,020 S3: that following your footsteps is a lonely, narrow path. Didn't 688 00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:28,540 S3: know when I called your name. Some things would have 689 00:41:28,540 --> 00:41:33,820 S3: to die. There's something about this gospel that sure messed 690 00:41:33,820 --> 00:41:39,020 S3: up my life. I ain't never been the same since. 691 00:41:39,020 --> 00:41:45,460 S3: This ain't a thing that I can take since Steve. 692 00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:51,220 S3: He wrecked the plans of this broken man. To turn 693 00:41:51,219 --> 00:41:54,220 S3: a heart of stone to pieces. I ain't never been 694 00:41:54,219 --> 00:42:12,060 S3: the same since Jesus. I left behind my luggage when 695 00:42:12,060 --> 00:42:17,140 S3: I picked up that cross to always want to give it. 696 00:42:17,340 --> 00:42:21,420 S3: But I give you all I got to kick the 697 00:42:21,460 --> 00:42:25,500 S3: dust right off my feet and find me another town. 698 00:42:26,580 --> 00:42:30,780 S3: It doesn't matter where I go. All that matters is 699 00:42:30,780 --> 00:42:36,779 S3: I'm found. I ain't never been the same since. Jesus 700 00:42:37,700 --> 00:42:45,020 S3: ain't a thing that I can take since. He wrecked 701 00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:47,980 S3: the plans of this broken man. To turn a heart 702 00:42:47,980 --> 00:42:51,100 S3: of stone to pieces. I ain't never been the same. 703 00:42:52,940 --> 00:42:57,300 S3: Since Jesus walked out of that grave. With my freedom 704 00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:01,980 S3: in his hands. He tore the chains right off of me. 705 00:43:02,180 --> 00:43:09,410 S3: And he told me who I am. I ain't never 706 00:43:09,410 --> 00:43:16,130 S3: been the same since Jesus ain't a thing. It hasn't 707 00:43:16,130 --> 00:43:23,530 S3: changed since Jesus, when he left the plans of this 708 00:43:23,530 --> 00:43:26,969 S3: broken man to turn a heart of stone to pieces. 709 00:43:26,969 --> 00:43:31,570 S3: I ain't never been the same. I ain't never been 710 00:43:31,610 --> 00:43:36,489 S3: the same. Since Jesus. 711 00:43:50,890 --> 00:43:54,330 S1: I love the line where you say the gospel messed 712 00:43:54,330 --> 00:43:57,210 S1: up my life. I've never heard it said that way. 713 00:43:57,370 --> 00:43:58,489 S3: I messed up that song. 714 00:43:58,530 --> 00:43:59,530 S2: Is what I did. But. 715 00:43:59,530 --> 00:44:03,480 S1: But no, you. We couldn't tell. We sure can tell. 716 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:08,440 S2: Thanks. Yeah. I, um, I remember when we, um, uh, 717 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,960 S2: Sam Martinez and Ethan Hulse when we wrote that song, 718 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,320 S2: and and, um, I remember Ethan's, like, can we say 719 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,240 S2: the gospel messed up our life, you know? And and 720 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,680 S2: this really kind of a weird way to say it, 721 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,920 S2: but when you really think about it, it's that a 722 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,920 S2: man can plan in his heart, but only God determines 723 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,600 S2: his steps. Scripture. And just like, hey, yeah, like we 724 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,360 S2: had a plan, but it's actually his. 725 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,440 S1: Well, it's it's moving you from the path that you 726 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,399 S1: think is going to give you what you want, you know, 727 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,000 S1: and the end to the, to the narrow path that 728 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,719 S1: he has for you. I just, uh, Ben, I can't 729 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,439 S1: thank you enough for coming along, spending this time with 730 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,239 S1: us here today and for all your travels and all 731 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,840 S1: your songs and all your singing and all the farm and, 732 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,239 S1: you know, closing on that and the things that you're 733 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:58,080 S1: going to be doing, uh, that the truth of that 734 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,310 S1: who you are is based in him and not any 735 00:45:02,310 --> 00:45:04,710 S1: awards that you get. And I'm sure there's a bunch 736 00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:07,510 S1: down and singing with Carrie Underwood singing at the Grand 737 00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:09,430 S1: Ole Opry. I mean, when you were on the farm 738 00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:12,710 S1: in Vermont, you dreamed you sang songs that were coming 739 00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:16,310 S1: from the Opry, and now you've sung there? Yeah. So you, 740 00:45:16,350 --> 00:45:19,430 S1: quote unquote, have made it, but the. But the bedrock 741 00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:21,190 S1: is what you just sang about. 742 00:45:21,230 --> 00:45:23,750 S2: Yeah. You know, the beautiful thing about the Opry and 743 00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:28,430 S2: Carrie Underwood was the biggest takeaway from that night was 744 00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:32,029 S2: my production manager told me a couple days later that 745 00:45:32,030 --> 00:45:35,669 S2: he witnessed Carrie backstage behind the red curtain, away from 746 00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:38,390 S2: any camera or person, and she was singing every single 747 00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:40,989 S2: song to if I Got Jesus, every single lyric to 748 00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:43,670 S2: if I Got Jesus while I'm out on stage singing 749 00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:47,310 S2: if I Got Jesus and and every knee will bow 750 00:45:47,310 --> 00:45:51,030 S2: and every tongue will confess. Carrie didn't need cameras or 751 00:45:51,070 --> 00:45:55,430 S2: applause or people to impress that she just loves Jesus 752 00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:57,629 S2: with her whole heart. And so it's like, I want 753 00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:59,989 S2: to keep that as the main thing, right? I want 754 00:45:59,989 --> 00:46:03,390 S2: to keep that as as when all this stuff, regardless 755 00:46:03,390 --> 00:46:06,830 S2: of all the fame and notoriety and everything that that it's. 756 00:46:06,989 --> 00:46:09,790 S2: I ain't never been the same since. Jesus, you know, 757 00:46:09,950 --> 00:46:14,830 S2: he's the one. He's he's my everything. And, um, keep listening. 758 00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:19,350 S1: Keep listening to the spirit. When, when he says, sing this, 759 00:46:19,390 --> 00:46:21,989 S1: you sing that. Even if you know, you don't know. 760 00:46:21,989 --> 00:46:23,989 S2: It's painful. Yeah, it's painful, but it's one of those 761 00:46:23,989 --> 00:46:26,750 S2: things where you just feel it. You're like, okay, fine, fine, fine, fine. No. 762 00:46:26,750 --> 00:46:29,190 S2: Get away from me. Get away from me. So I yeah, 763 00:46:29,230 --> 00:46:31,150 S2: I appreciate you letting me do it. And thanks for 764 00:46:31,150 --> 00:46:32,230 S2: bearing with me on that. 765 00:46:32,670 --> 00:46:36,750 S1: Ben Fuller we side today with Ben Fuller. The new 766 00:46:36,750 --> 00:46:39,870 S1: album is Walk Through Fire. We have it linked at 767 00:46:39,870 --> 00:46:42,830 S1: Chris Fabry live. If you get the chance to go 768 00:46:42,830 --> 00:46:45,150 S1: see him and hear him do that, you can find 769 00:46:45,150 --> 00:46:47,750 S1: out more at his website. We have that link there 770 00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:50,230 S1: as well. God bless you friend. Come back and see 771 00:46:50,270 --> 00:46:52,830 S1: us again okay? Love you buddy. Thank you. Thanks, Chris. 772 00:46:53,110 --> 00:46:55,670 S1: Chris Fabry Live is a production of Moody Radio, a 773 00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:57,990 S1: ministry of Moody Bible Institute.