WEBVTT - The Dead Sea Scrolls

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<v S1>In 1947, Bedouin shepherds stumbled upon a remarkable discovery in

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<v S1>the Judean Desert seven scrolls tucked into clay jars in

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<v S1>the back of a cave. But not just any scrolls.

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<v S1>These were the first of what came to be known

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<v S1>as the Dead Sea Scrolls. Hey, stick around to learn

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<v S1>how you can see some of these scrolls in person

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<v S1>without traveling to Israel. Plus the latest headlines from the

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<v S1>Middle East. Hey, welcome to this week's edition of The

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<v S1>Land and the book. If we haven't met, I'm John Gager,

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<v S1>and our Middle East authority is Doctor Charlie Dyer. How

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<v S1>are you doing, Charlie?

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<v S2>John, I'm doing great as we end this year and

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<v S2>get ready to start the new one.

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<v S1>Well, speaking of the end of this year, many world

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<v S1>events have left us wondering what God's plan is for

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<v S1>the future. And that's especially true when it comes to Israel.

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<v S1>Despite its tiny size, people around the world are just

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<v S1>intensely focused on what takes place. There are today's headlines,

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<v S1>we wonder, connected in any way with prophecies in the Bible?

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<v S1>And how should followers of Jesus interpret current events as

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<v S1>we await Christ's second coming?

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<v S1>Well, as you've pointed out, Charlie, we're at the end

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<v S1>of the year and boy, that has slipped by, hasn't it?

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<v S1>But before we flip the page on the calendar to

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<v S1>a new calendar, let's look back at the top stories

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<v S1>of the past year. The major event had to be

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<v S1>the Multi-front War fought by Israel. What were the highs

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<v S1>and lows of this military struggle?

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<v S2>You know, this is the longest and most brutal war

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<v S2>Israel has faced since its war of independence back in 1948.

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<v S2>They had to fight both Hamas and Hezbollah. They also

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<v S2>traded blows with Iran, with the Houthis and the Shiite

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<v S2>militants in Iraq. And in addition, they experienced terror attacks

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<v S2>from within their own borders. The highs over the past

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<v S2>year definitely include the dramatic attacks against Hezbollah, thought to

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<v S2>be the most powerful of Iran's allies, from the exploding

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<v S2>pagers to the effective elimination of Hezbollah's leadership, including their

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<v S2>long term head, Hassan Nasrallah. Israel decimated the group, forcing

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<v S2>them to agree to a ceasefire and relocate their forces

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<v S2>to a line north of the Litani River. Israel also

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<v S2>devastated Hamas, destroying most of their brigades and killing their

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<v S2>key political and military leadership, including Yahya Sinwar, Ismail Haniyeh,

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<v S2>and Mohammed Deif. They also destroyed much of the military infrastructure,

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<v S2>including underground tunnels, rockets, and manufacturing facilities. Israel attacked Iran

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<v S2>in response to rockets Iran fired at them. They eliminated

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<v S2>most of Iran's anti-aircraft sites, making Iran vulnerable to future attacks,

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<v S2>and they eliminated Iran's ability to manufacture additional solid fuel rockets.

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<v S2>Now the lows for Israel over the past year. That

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<v S2>includes especially the toll in human life. Around 900 soldiers

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<v S2>and police have been killed in the ongoing conflict. Another

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<v S2>low is the impact of the war on Israel's economy.

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<v S2>Service time for reservists in the IDF averaged 136 days

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<v S2>per year. Some businesses failed, others were forced to cut back,

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<v S2>and families struggled to get by financially with the loss

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<v S2>of income. We saw that John firsthand back in March,

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<v S2>when we visited a company that normally employs about 150 people.

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<v S2>Most of the desks were empty, with just a handful

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<v S2>of people still in place. The rest were either called

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<v S2>up for reserve duty or furlough due to the lack

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<v S2>of work and sadly, the conflict still isn't over. Though

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<v S2>hopefully things are finally winding down.

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<v S1>Well, the second major story of the year was the

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<v S1>surprising rise in anti-Semitism worldwide, in response to Israel's fight

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<v S1>against Hamas and Hezbollah. What was behind this dramatic rise?

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<v S2>You know, analysts point to a variety of causes, including

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<v S2>the apparent disparity between the number of casualties in Israel

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<v S2>and the number in Gaza. The problem here is that

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<v S2>the numbers provided by Hamas can't be verified and don't

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<v S2>distinguish between civilians and fighters. Hamas was quick to report

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<v S2>mass casualty events, even though many turned out to be

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<v S2>inaccurate or downright false. But by the time the truth

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<v S2>finally came out, the damage was already done. Those reasons alone, however,

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<v S2>don't account for the dramatic rise in anti-Semitism. For example,

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<v S2>protests began on college campuses on October 8th, the day

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<v S2>after Hamas killed over 1200 Israelis and before Israel was

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<v S2>able to respond, anti-Semitism was always there, just below the surface.

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<v S2>October 7th gave those who hate the Jews an opportunity

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<v S2>to publicly demonstrate that hatred under the guise of supporting Hezbollah,

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<v S2>Hamas and the Palestinians. But let me dig even deeper, John. Bigotry,

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<v S2>prejudice and the wickedness of the human heart are also

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<v S2>key reasons for anti-Semitism. But I believe the ultimate cause

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<v S2>for anti-Semitism can be traced back to Satan and his

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<v S2>opposition to God. anti-Semitism has Satan's fingerprints all over it.

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<v S2>He rebelled against God. Originally, he tried to kill God's

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<v S2>Messiah at his first coming, and he's actively trying to

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<v S2>turn the world against God's chosen people before the Messiah returns.

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<v S2>The rise in anti-Semitism over the past year is a

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<v S2>reminder that Satan hates God. He hates God's people, and

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<v S2>he hates God's program. And it's also a reminder that

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<v S2>we need to stand up for the Jewish people and

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<v S2>for Israel's right to exist as a nation in their

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<v S2>own land, a land which, by the way, was promised

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<v S2>to them by God.

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<v S1>You're listening to The Land and the book from Moody Radio.

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<v S1>Our host is Doctor Charlie Dyer, noted Middle East expert.

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<v S1>I'm John Gager, and our third major story of the

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<v S1>year looks at the International Criminal Court, which charged Israel

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<v S1>and her leaders with genocide and war crimes. What's the

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<v S1>impact of these charges? And is Israel guilty?

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<v S2>Well, in terms of the impact of the charges, they

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<v S2>do make it difficult on Israel as a country and

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<v S2>on individual Israelis. Israel's leaders are threatened with arrest if

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<v S2>they visit a country that's a member of the ICC.

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<v S2>This also opens the door for countries to boycott Israeli products.

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<v S2>Israeli soldiers who fought in Gaza or Lebanon are in

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<v S2>danger of being arrested and charged with war crimes for

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<v S2>serving in the military. So the bottom line, though, is

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<v S2>Israel guilty? Well, they're not. In fact, over the past year,

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<v S2>Israel demonstrated that it's done more than any army in

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<v S2>history to protect civilians while fighting in an urban environment

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<v S2>against an enemy who deliberately embedded itself among civilians, using

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<v S2>them as human shields. Israel filed two appeals against the

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<v S2>arrest warrants, the first focused on serious procedural deficiencies in

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<v S2>the ICC decision, and the second dealt with the claim

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<v S2>that the ICC lacks any jurisdiction over Israelis. Could there

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<v S2>be individual instances where soldiers committed war crimes? Yeah, that's

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<v S2>true of every war ever fought. And Israel, just like

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<v S2>the US, has a mechanism for prosecuting individual soldiers for

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<v S2>war crimes. But Israel didn't invade Gaza to try and

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<v S2>wipe out the Palestinian people. They invaded to defeat an

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<v S2>enemy that had attacked them. And they called on civilians

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<v S2>within Gaza to move out of areas they're about to attack.

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<v S2>You know what nation telegraphs its plan of attack, putting

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<v S2>its own soldiers in harm's way to spare civilians? Well,

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<v S2>that's what Israel did. Thankfully, the United States has made

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<v S2>it clear that we believe the charges have no merit.

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<v S2>There has been genocide, but it's been committed by Hamas

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<v S2>and Hezbollah, not Israel.

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<v S1>The final story of the year has to be the

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<v S1>ongoing hostage drama and the related opposition to Prime Minister

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<v S1>Netanyahu on the part of many Israelis. How do these

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<v S1>two pieces interconnect?

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<v S2>Yeah, well, one reason Hamas chose to attack when they

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<v S2>did was the very public division within Israel, between the

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<v S2>government and those who were opposed to it. The specific

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<v S2>issue was a plan on the part of the coalition

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<v S2>to reform Israel's legal system. Now, what got lost in

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<v S2>all of the protests is the fact that some of

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<v S2>the reforms would have made their system more like that

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<v S2>in the U.S., adding additional checks and balances to keep

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<v S2>the judiciary from exerting too much power to Hamas as

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<v S2>they looked at all the conflict. It appeared that Israel

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<v S2>was imploding, and this encouraged them to attack. One tactic

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<v S2>they've used in the past was to capture hostages, to

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<v S2>try to keep Israel from responding. And in this case,

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<v S2>Israel initially came together as a nation to oppose Hamas

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<v S2>and to push for the return of the hostages. That

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<v S2>was a highlight for Israel in terms of their unity.

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<v S2>But Hamas scattered the hostages throughout Gaza, making their rescue

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<v S2>extremely difficult. Hamas then demanded Israel stop its attack, withdraw

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<v S2>from Gaza and allow Hamas to remain in power as

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<v S2>conditions for the return of the hostages. Israel set two

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<v S2>goals in this war with Hamas defeat and remove Hamas

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<v S2>from power and bring back all the hostages. But as

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<v S2>the war dragged on, those goals seemed to become mutually exclusive.

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<v S2>The fractures within Israel resurfaced, and those opposed to Netanyahu

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<v S2>claimed he was prolonging the war for his own personal benefit, which, sadly,

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<v S2>just isn't true. Hamas saw political benefit in keeping the

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<v S2>hostages until Israel agreed to all its demands. Now, as

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<v S2>this year ends, we might, and I use the word

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<v S2>might be seeing a way forward. Hamas is feeling more isolated.

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<v S2>Israel didn't allow U.S. pressure to force them to back

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<v S2>off in the fight against Hamas. They kept advancing inside Gaza,

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<v S2>further degrading Hamas's military capabilities. And as the year ends,

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<v S2>the hope in everyone's mind is that the release of

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<v S2>the remaining hostages might finally be close at hand. It's

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<v S2>certainly time to bring them home, and the threats by

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<v S2>president elect Trump seem to be helping in that regard.

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<v S2>But the same can't be said for the opposition to

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<v S2>Netanyahu on the part of a significant number of Israelis

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<v S2>that opposition is likely to continue.

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<v S1>Charlie, isn't it true in one sense that although it's

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<v S1>bad for the hostages and their families, the longer this

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<v S1>thing continues to play out, it seems to weaken the

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<v S1>position of Hamas. It makes their lives more difficult.

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<v S2>Well, what I would say is it makes the lives

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<v S2>of the people in Gaza definitely more difficult. Sadly, Hamas

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<v S2>have been hijacking the aid trucks that have come in.

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<v S2>The individual Hamas fighters are doing much better than the

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<v S2>average person within Gaza, but Hamas doesn't care about them.

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<v S2>And that's what's sad.

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<v S1>Let me ask you to put on your thinking cap here.

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<v S1>What's a likely six month forecast for both Syria and Lebanon.

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<v S1>The situations there, Syria and Lebanon.

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<v S2>Unfortunately, we're likely to see a Sunni Islamic state come

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<v S2>into play for Lebanon. There's perhaps a little bit more hope.

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<v S2>The lifeline to Hezbollah has been cut off with Iran

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<v S2>not being able to resupply them. And there's a possibility

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<v S2>at least of a government forming in Lebanon that could

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<v S2>hold Hezbollah in check and not let them become, again,

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<v S2>a state within a state.

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<v S1>All right. And that's a look at current events and

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<v S1>a little bit of a forecast of what's likely ahead

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<v S1>in Syria and Lebanon. I'm looking forward to our conversation

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<v S1>coming up next, where we're talking about the Dead Sea

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<v S1>Scrolls and how you can see some of them right

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<v S1>here in the United States of America. That's a great conversation.

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<v S1>Up next on the Land and the book. In 1947,

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<v S1>Bedouin shepherds stumbled upon a remarkable discovery in the Judean Desert.

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<v S1>Seven scrolls tucked away into clay jars in the back

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<v S1>of a cave. But not just any scrolls. These were

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<v S1>the first of what came to be known as the

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<v S1>Dead Sea Scrolls. Over the next decade, thousands of manuscript

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<v S1>fragments from 11 different caves were discovered near the ancient

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<v S1>site of Qumran, dating back two millennia. These fragile parchments,

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<v S1>preserved by the dry climate and darkness of the caves,

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<v S1>represent the oldest known copies of the Hebrew Bible, which

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<v S1>we refer to as the Old Testament. But here's the shocker.

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<v S1>Eight of those scrolls and more than 200 artifacts are

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<v S1>part of a special exhibition that you can see now

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<v S1>for yourself at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in California.

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<v S1>Are you intrigued? Well, I am. Hey, welcome to segment

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<v S1>two of The Land and the book. I'm John Gager.

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<v S1>Joining our conversation today is Melissa Giller, chief marketing officer

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<v S1>for the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute. Melissa oversees

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<v S1>the marketing, the public relations, social media center for public affairs,

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<v S1>programming and facility rental business for the Foundation. While working

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<v S1>for that foundation, Melissa has helped secure the special exhibitions

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<v S1>that are housed at the library, helping make the Reagan

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<v S1>Library the most visited museum in the presidential library system.

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<v S1>That said, welcome to the land and the book. Melissa, thank.

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<v S3>You so much for having me.

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<v S1>Well, how in the world did you get approval from

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<v S1>the Israeli antiquities authorities to host this exhibit?

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<v S3>So we've been working with them since 2019. This exhibition

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<v S3>had traveled before, but it went on rest in 2018,

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<v S3>and they knew they were bringing it back out in

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<v S3>a couple of years. And it takes a really long

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<v S3>time to get approval from the Israeli Antiquities Authority. We're

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<v S3>very fortunate. We're actually a government building, so we have

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<v S3>all the security and safety measures that they require. We've

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<v S3>also been able to host some of the most, you know,

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<v S3>exquisite exhibitions like Auschwitz not long ago, not far away

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<v S3>in Vatican splendor. So they know that we have a

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<v S3>venue that can bring in these large exhibitions and host them. And,

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<v S3>you know, we were even able to point to the

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<v S3>fact that President Reagan believed so strongly in his faith,

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<v S3>believed so strongly in Israel, and all of those things

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<v S3>mixed together. They opened up their doors. And we are

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<v S3>so excited about this new exhibit.

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<v S1>So how long will that exhibit be available to the public?

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<v S1>I'm curious.

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<v S3>Yeah. The exhibition will run through the very end of

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<v S3>August in 2025. And what's extraordinary about it, you mentioned

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<v S3>that there are eight scrolls. Well, the scrolls can only

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<v S3>be in light three months every five years. So we

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<v S3>have this exhibition for a total of nine months in

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<v S3>its entirety. And every three months they bring us an

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<v S3>entire new eight set of scrolls.

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<v S4>Wow.

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<v S1>To honor that, need to keep those fragments in good,

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<v S1>good health, as it were.

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<v S3>Exactly preserved as long as they can be.

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<v S1>Well, in addition to the scrolls, one of the artifacts

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<v S1>on display, I'm told, is the Magdala Stone, which dates

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<v S1>to the Second Temple period. Describe this piece. How big

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<v S1>is it and what does it look like?

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<v S3>Sure. So as you said, it dates back to the

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<v S3>Second Temple period. It's a very intricate stone that shows

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<v S3>the carvings of the temple, and they believe that those

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<v S3>drawings are actually showing the role of the synagogue as

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<v S3>a sacred space. They believe it was used as furniture, perhaps,

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<v S3>to hold the Torah or some other important object from

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<v S3>the temple of the time. It's completely made of stone.

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<v S3>It's perhaps maybe two feet wide by maybe four feet

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<v S3>across and maybe about three feet tall. And it's just

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<v S3>it's extraordinary. It has a whole bunch of different markings.

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<v S3>They believe it's the first ever use of a seven

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<v S3>candle menorah on an object like that, dating back 2000 years.

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<v S1>Yeah. And if you've been to the Magdala site, you've

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<v S1>seen a replica of that. And boy, fascinating to see

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<v S1>that you guys have the actual one. This is the

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<v S1>land in the book I'm John Geiger, visiting today with

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<v S1>Melissa Giller, who is taking us on a bit of

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<v S1>an audio tour of a fabulous exhibit open to the

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<v S1>public now at the Ronald Reagan Library. Also on display

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<v S1>is the Sea of Galilee boat, often referred to as

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<v S1>the Jesus Boat. That's a first century fishing boat discovered

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<v S1>in 1986 along the northwest shore of the Sea of Galilee.

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<v S1>Many of our listeners will be familiar with that, and

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<v S1>they know this is not a small thing. So describe

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<v S1>this remarkable treasure for anybody who's new to it.

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<v S3>Yes. So what's extra? Well, there's many things extraordinary about

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<v S3>this boat, but one of the things that's extraordinary is

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<v S3>it's never toured before. So since finding it in 1986,

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<v S3>it has never left the Israel Antiquities Authority archives. So

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<v S3>we are the first location to ever have it on display.

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<v S3>It was found in 1986, as you said, during a

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<v S3>really strong drought in the Sea of Galilee. And through

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<v S3>carbon dating, they have been able to prove that it

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<v S3>was a boat, most likely a fisherman's boat used on

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<v S3>the Sea of Galilee at the exact same time that

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<v S3>Jesus was a fisherman on that exact sea. So the

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<v S3>boat itself is very fragile. It doesn't really travel. So

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<v S3>what they've traveled are wood fragments from the boat. They

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<v S3>can prove that the wood is both cedar from Lebanon

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<v S3>as well as other wood species from Israel. And then

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<v S3>they've sort of recreated the full scope of the boat,

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<v S3>so you can see the size of it with the

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<v S3>original wood carvings, the sort of wood fragments in a

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<v S3>case in the middle of the boat.

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<v S1>I understand you also feature a number of ossuaries, small

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<v S1>stone receptacles used for secondary burial. For those who aren't familiar,

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<v S1>tell us a bit about the practical side of an

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<v S1>ossuary and why these are important to include in your display.

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<v S3>Yes, so they really wanted this exhibition to, you know,

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<v S3>it's called the Dead Sea Scrolls. But as you said earlier,

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<v S3>there are 200 objects and only eight scrolls. So the

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<v S3>scrolls are really just almost a small part of it.

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<v S3>And they wanted to be able to show the culture

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<v S3>and the foundations of faith across Christianity, Judaism, and even

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<v S3>the beginning of Islam faith in this exhibition, and they

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<v S3>do so through the use of these other 200 artifacts

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<v S3>we have. I believe it's five ossuaries on display. And

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<v S3>for those who aren't aware, as you said, they hold

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<v S3>bone fragments inside of them. And I've been learning some

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<v S3>really interesting information because, again, if you are of the

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<v S3>Jewish faith, they have to keep things in a sense

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<v S3>kosher and what they can and can't do with certain

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<v S3>bones and sort of changing things up so the bones

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<v S3>would be cleaned before they would be put inside these

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<v S3>stone cases to be preserved forever.

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<v S1>Melissa Geller is our guest today on the Land and

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<v S1>the book. She serves as chief marketing officer for the

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<v S1>Ronald Reagan Library in Simi Valley, California. I am just

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<v S1>blown away that you also have on display some objects

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<v S1>from Masada. That's Herod the Great's desert fortress overlooking the

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<v S1>Dead Sea. Remind listeners why this particular fortress was such

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<v S1>a strategic site, and what specific artifacts can we expect

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<v S1>to see?

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<v S3>So what I can tell you is that Masada is

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<v S3>really important, because what they're explaining in this exhibit as

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<v S3>a whole is why these scrolls, why these artifacts were

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<v S3>hidden to begin with, and they were hidden to begin

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<v S3>with because of the Roman Empire rule and them going

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<v S3>in and all the the fighting, if you could call

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<v S3>it that. But really, the execution and persecution of the

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<v S3>Jews at the time. And most of those fights were happening.

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<v S3>Some of the strongest fights were happening at Masada. So

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<v S3>they've actually built replica sort of scenic view of what

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<v S3>Masada looked like at the time, as well as really

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<v S3>beautiful photographs that people can get a sense of where

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<v S3>you were sort of near the Dead Sea during those fights.

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<v S3>There are sort of panel copies around the exhibition explaining

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<v S3>what happened during that time, why that time is so

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<v S3>important to the history of the Dead Sea Scrolls and

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<v S3>the hiding of all these objects. And then this is

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<v S3>a sort of silly answer, but, um, so they're still

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<v S3>inserting artifacts and they haven't yet put the artifacts in

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<v S3>that gallery at the time of this recording, so I

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<v S3>haven't seen exactly what's going in there yet. So you

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<v S3>might need to cut that part out. But the history part,

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<v S3>I can tell you.

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<v S1>No, I think we're good, because I heard from a

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<v S1>little bird somewhere that you guys have some small pot

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<v S1>sherds bearing writing, some botanical remains, including some pomegranate peels,

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<v S1>walnut shells and olive pits, as well as imported textiles.

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<v S1>All that to say, it's more than just a couple

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<v S1>of photos. It really is a remarkable presentation of Masada

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<v S1>at several different levels, so that's just too cool, I think.

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<v S3>Yeah, very cool. They also even have they talk about

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<v S3>Pilgrimage Road, which is the road that people would take

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<v S3>as they approached the temple. And so along the pilgrimage

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<v S3>road were shops. And they have found through their excavations jewelry, weapons, pottery, money,

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<v S3>all the different things that were used along pilgrimage roads

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<v S3>in these markets. And these things will all be on

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<v S3>display as well.

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<v S1>In the New Testament, we read that the shekel coin

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<v S1>was the official annual temple tax you had to pay.

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<v S1>Every male above 20 years old had to pay up

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<v S1>because your collection is so amazing. Melissa. You also have

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<v S1>some shekels for people to see.

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<v S3>We sure do.

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<v S1>I'm kind of curious if you've seen one. What American

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<v S1>coin does the shekel mostly resemble, or am I putting

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<v S1>you in a in a tough spot there?

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<v S3>You know, I don't know if I can answer that.

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<v S3>We have the silver coin, which was the coin used

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<v S3>to pay the half shekel head tax. It has a

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<v S3>man's face engraved in it, almost like maybe we might

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<v S3>have the face of Washington engraved in a coin. But

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<v S3>of course, much more textured, because our coins are manufactured

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<v S3>in such a beautiful way. There's even some that have

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<v S3>an eagle on one side. And again, these were used

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<v S3>for the actual tax that was used to pay to

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<v S3>enter the temple. So just like the same kind of

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<v S3>tithes that many people still pay today to their churches

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<v S3>or their temples. They were doing it 2000 years ago.

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<v S1>We're talking with chief marketing officer Melissa Giller. I'm assuming

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<v S1>there's a fair amount of security concerns that must be

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<v S1>managed with something like this. Help us understand that facet

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<v S1>of the exhibit as much as you can without giving

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<v S1>away too many secrets.

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<v S3>Sure. So again, we are a government facility, so we

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<v S3>actually have security on our premises 24 over seven already.

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<v S3>Our last really big exhibition was on Auschwitz, and we

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<v S3>sort of ramped up our security a little bit for

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<v S3>that as well. When we had the Auschwitz exhibition, that's

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<v S3>when the October 7th Hamas attack happened on Israel. So

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<v S3>we're sort of prepared for this. I don't think visitors

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<v S3>will really see a difference. It's security cameras, security guards,

0:22:14.090 --> 0:22:16.490
<v S3>the things that we already do, we do check bags.

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<v S3>So nothing like that is really changed. But we are

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<v S3>just more aware. We do live in a very political climate.

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<v S3>I can tell you, without naming names, that there were

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<v S3>other locations being considered for this exhibition, and some of

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<v S3>those museums backed out because they were too nervous that

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<v S3>it might not be a safe time to house the exhibition,

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<v S3>but that made us want to house the exhibition even more.

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<v S3>It is so important for people to see these artifacts,

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<v S3>to learn these stories, you know. As you said, this

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<v S3>is the oldest known full portion of the Hebrew Bible

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<v S3>known to ever exist. It's the same books in the

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<v S3>Old Testament and the Christian Bible. And what's also spectacular

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<v S3>about them is that if you can read Hebrew, you

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<v S3>can actually read the Dead Sea Scrolls, because the characters

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<v S3>haven't changed in over 2000 years. So again, if you

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<v S3>can read it when you see these scrolls, you will

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<v S3>still be able to read it just as if you

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<v S3>were reading a Torah today.

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<v S1>So let me ask you a personal question. As you

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<v S1>have examined this collection being put together and taking shape.

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<v S1>What for you is the most intriguing item or the

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<v S1>most maybe significant personal takeaway?

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<v S3>For me personally, it's the two ton piece of the

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<v S3>Western Wall. Israel is a place I've always wanted to visit.

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<v S3>I have not yet been able to do that and

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<v S3>to go to Israel to be at the Wailing Wall,

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<v S3>the Western Wall, and to leave a note of prayer

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<v S3>or something that is really important to me. And when

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<v S3>this exhibition has traveled in the past, it has only

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<v S3>traveled with a replica of the Western Wall. And this

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<v S3>exhibition travels, as I said, with a real two ton piece.

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<v S3>It fell off the wall surrounding the Second Temple, but

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<v S3>it's never left Jerusalem before. And to have that here

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<v S3>and visitors are allowed to actually leave a note next

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<v S3>to it. Um, again, I still want to get to Israel.

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<v S3>It's not a replacement for going to Israel.

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<v S4>That's right. But it is.

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<v S3>For me a very significant piece that something I've always

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<v S3>wanted to do, and that I can now do it

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<v S3>at the Reagan Library is fun, but extraordinary at the same.

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<v S4>Time. Oh, for.

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<v S1>Sure. And that's neat that you're allowing people to place, uh,

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<v S1>notes and prayers there, as they do at the wall.

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<v S1>We we see those crammed into the cracks. I've placed

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<v S1>one there myself a time or two. Hey, what is

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<v S1>your goal in hosting this exhibit when all is said

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<v S1>and done? Melissa.

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<v S3>We want to bring awareness to history, first and foremost, religion.

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<v S3>But the importance of not forgetting, right? I mean, I

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<v S3>know if people study the Bible or people study the Torah,

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<v S3>they know the stories that are in there. But to

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<v S3>see the items themselves, these 2000 year old items from

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<v S3>the time of Jesus, I think it sort of opens

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<v S3>up what you believe and what you see in a

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<v S3>whole new way. So we really hope that people come

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<v S3>to the Reagan Library, see the Dead Sea Scrolls exhibition,

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<v S3>not let the political environment scare them away, or think

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<v S3>maybe another day, another time. It's more important now than

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<v S3>ever to remember these stories and to see these items

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<v S3>up close and personal. So, um, we are the only

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<v S3>location in all of the West Coast to house this exhibition.

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<v S3>When it starts to travel. It'll be on the East Coast.

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<v S3>So we do encourage anyone west of the Mississippi who

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<v S3>can hear me.

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<v S4>Come on out.

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<v S3>Before it.

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<v S4>Closes.

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<v S1>That's great. And we'll link to your museum right there

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<v S1>at our website. The land and the book. Org take

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<v S1>you right to this display and all the information you

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<v S1>need to know about the Ronald Reagan Library's extraordinary collection,

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<v S1>the Dead Sea Scrolls. Melissa, a pleasure to chat with

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<v S1>you today. Thanks for letting us know what we can

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<v S1>expect when we get out there and see this tremendous

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<v S1>exhibit for ourselves.

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<v S3>Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate.

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<v S4>It, and.

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<v S1>We're looking forward to connecting with a fresh set of

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<v S1>Bible questions and their answers. Up next here on the

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<v S1>land and the book. You know, you have so many

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<v S1>options in what you listen to these days. Here you

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<v S1>are with us at the land and the book, and

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<v S1>we're glad you decided to hang out. I think you'll

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<v S1>be glad you did. Fascinating to hear what people are

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<v S1>wondering as they open their Bibles. Do some study. We're

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<v S1>going to get to a great list of questions. First, though,

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<v S1>you think about the end of the year approaching and

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<v S1>all the world events that have left us wondering what

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<v S1>God's plan is for the future. And that's particularly true

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<v S1>when it comes to Israel, despite its small size. Think

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<v S1>about this people around the world are intensely focused on

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<v S1>what takes place there. Many wonder, are today's headlines connected

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<v S1>in some way with the prophecies in the Bible? And

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<v S1>more specifically, how should followers of Jesus interpret current events?

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<v S1>As we await his second coming?

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<v S2>And those are great questions. And to help answer those questions,

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<v S2>our friends at Life and Messiah encourage you to check

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<v S2>out their book, God, Israel, and Bible Prophecy. Now, with

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<v S2>Scripture as its foundation, this book will take you on

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<v S2>a journey into what God has in store for the

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<v S2>Jewish people and the nations. This book is for anyone

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<v S2>who wants to explore where modern day events fit on

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<v S2>this would be a great resource or gift. Visit Lifeline Messiah.

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<v S2>Israel and Bible Prophecy. That's life in messiah.org.

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<v S1>Jared is questioner number one in this Q&amp;A segment for

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<v S1>the day. He says, I've been noticing that even some

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<v S1>conservative evangelical folks are leaning now toward centering prayer and

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<v S1>contemplative prayer, these being the most important thing to learn

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<v S1>and the way to be closest to God. Do you

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<v S1>have any counsel about what is biblical and what is

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<v S1>extra biblical versus traditional in this emerging practice?

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<v S2>Yeah, I just need to say right up front, I

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<v S2>have problems with the practice of people that refer to

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<v S2>these centering prayer or contemplative prayer. Now, in these practices,

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<v S2>prayer becomes a form of meditation where the person is

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<v S2>told to focus his or her attention on a simple

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<v S2>word or phrase and attach it to a rhythmic breathing pattern.

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<v S2>But when I look at prayer in the Bible, it's

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<v S2>an active, not a passive activity. You know, Jesus gave

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<v S2>very specific instructions on how to pray in Matthew six,

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<v S2>the passage. We often call it the Lord's Prayer, but

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<v S2>it actually should be called the Disciples prayer. Since he

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<v S2>was explaining to his disciples how his followers ought to pray.

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<v S2>And he says there that prayer ought to be private

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<v S2>rather than public, and is not to involve the incessant

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<v S2>repetition of words. In fact, in verse seven he uses

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<v S2>the word bartolaccio, which refers to stammering or repeating words

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<v S2>over and over, which he then connects to the compound

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<v S2>word eulogia, which literally means many words. Then Jesus provides

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<v S2>a basic outline for prayer that involves a focus in

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<v S2>prayer on adoration, submission to God's will, requests for specific needs, confession,

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<v S2>and requests for guidance and protection. The kind of prayer

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<v S2>Jesus is describing is active and focused. Rather than seeking

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<v S2>some altered state of serenity. It's a realization that we've

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<v S2>come into the presence of God Himself in active communion.

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<v S2>You know, when Jesus prayed in the Garden of Gethsemane,

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<v S2>Luke says, and being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly,

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<v S2>and his sweat was like drops of blood falling on

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<v S2>the ground. In his extended prayer in John 17, Jesus

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<v S2>prayed actively for himself, his disciples, and for all believers

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<v S2>who would then come to faith. Now in all those instances,

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<v S2>Jesus's prayer is active and direct. Another example in Colossians

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<v S2>chapter four, Paul described one of the church's own members,

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<v S2>who was with Paul as a servant of Christ, who

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<v S2>was always wrestling in prayer for you. And the word

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<v S2>Paul uses. There is the Greek word agonism, from which

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<v S2>we get the word agony. Now the word has the

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<v S2>idea of fighting, struggling, striving, or laboring. His prayer for

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<v S2>these saints was an act of labor on his part.

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<v S2>Now we're all told to meditate on God's Word. So

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<v S2>I'm not against meditation. Psalm one verse two tells us

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<v S2>that Psalm 119, verse 11 does as well. The word

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<v S2>of Christ is to dwell in us richly. Colossians 316.

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<v S2>We're told to read God's Word and memorize God's Word

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<v S2>and meditate on God's Word. But that's not the same

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<v S2>activity as prayer, at least not as I see prayer

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<v S2>being described in the Bible.

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<v S1>Well, a question from Robin, who says A Jewish friend

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<v S1>greeted me on Yom Kippur with the phrase Djemaa satima tova.

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<v S1>I know it's a greeting and means a good final ceiling,

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<v S1>but can you explain just a bit more of its meaning?

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<v S1>Is it in the Bible?

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<v S2>Yeah, well, the phrase comes from the Jewish tradition that

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<v S2>God writes a person's fate for the coming year on

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<v S2>Rosh Hashanah into one of three books. The righteous are

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<v S2>inscribed in the Book of Life, the evil into the

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<v S2>Book of Death, and those in between have their judgment

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<v S2>suspended until Yom Kippur, the ten days between the start

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<v S2>of the New Year and Yom Kippur give this third

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<v S2>group of individuals an opportunity to tip the scales in

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<v S2>their behalf so they can do extra good deeds or

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<v S2>something during that period. So the greeting by your friend

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<v S2>is hoping that your fate for the coming year will

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<v S2>be tipped in your favor, and that you'll experience God's

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<v S2>blessing in life for the coming year. Now, the idea

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<v S2>of a book of life does come from the Bible,

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<v S2>though modern Jewish understanding isn't exactly what's meant there. In

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<v S2>Psalm 69 verse 28, David called on God to judge

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<v S2>his enemies and said, May they be blotted out of

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<v S2>the book of life and not be listed with the righteous.

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<v S2>Now these enemies had been seeking David's death, so David

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<v S2>prays that God will bring about their death. David's prayer

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<v S2>isn't based on the idea that there's a ten day

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<v S2>period when this person's fate is sealed. He's using the

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<v S2>imagery of a book in a poetic fashion, to ask

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<v S2>God to remove his enemies from God's record of those

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<v S2>who remain alive. In the Book of Revelation. The Book

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<v S2>of Life is also used to picture God's record of

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<v S2>those who have been declared righteous, and anyone whose name

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<v S2>isn't written in the Book of life will be cast

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<v S2>into eternal punishment in the lake of fire. And that's

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<v S2>in revelation 20. But the modern Jewish use of these

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<v S2>words isn't exactly the way they appear in the Bible.

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<v S1>Sadie asks, was the Babylonian captivity a revenge for what

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<v S1>King Solomon did?

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<v S2>Yeah. I don't believe the Babylonian captivity was revenge on

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<v S2>God's part, though. The breakup of the empire into two kingdoms,

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<v S2>Israel and Judah, was part of God's judgment for his

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<v S2>turning away from God. I traced the Babylonian captivity back

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<v S2>to the covenant God made with Israel. In Leviticus 26

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<v S2>and Deuteronomy 28, God gave a series of blessings he

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<v S2>would give for obedience and cursings that he would send

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<v S2>for disobedience. The ultimate curse was his threat to cast

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<v S2>Israel out of the land. And in Second Chronicles 36,

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<v S2>at the end, as they describe him going into captivity

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<v S2>in Babylon, the writer connects that captivity to the nations disobedience.

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<v S2>The kingdom was divided because of Solomon's sin, but the

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<v S2>people were carried into captivity because they violated God's Word

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<v S2>and brought on themselves that ultimate covenant curse, expulsion from

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<v S2>the land.

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<v S1>You're listening to the land in the book. Doctor Charlie Dyer,

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<v S1>our host, always welcomes your Bible questions at the land

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<v S1>and the book@moody.edu. In Romans 11 verse 28, Paul says,

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<v S1>Israel is beloved for the sake of their ancestors. A

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<v S1>listener wants to know, does this mean that God loves

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<v S1>those whose ancestors were pagan in a different way for

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<v S1>different reasons? What exactly does it mean that God loves

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<v S1>someone for his ancestor's sake.

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<v S2>Well, in Greek the phrase is literally beloved for the

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<v S2>sake of the fathers. And in the context since Paul's

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<v S2>speaking about Israel, the fathers he's referring to are Abraham, Isaac,

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<v S2>and Jacob, the three patriarchs to whom God made specific

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<v S2>promises regarding the nation of Israel. Hundreds of years later,

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<v S2>Micah the prophet ended his book with an assurance that

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<v S2>God could bless Israel because of the oath God made

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<v S2>to these patriarchs. He said, you will again have compassion

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<v S2>on us. You'll tread our sins underfoot, hurl our iniquities

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<v S2>into the depths of the sea. You will be true

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<v S2>to Jacob and show mercy to Abraham, as you pledged

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<v S2>on oath to our fathers in days long ago. Now,

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<v S2>what Paul meant by this phrase is that God had

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<v S2>made a solemn promise to Abraham, which he reaffirmed to

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<v S2>Isaac and Jacob. And in context Paul is saying, the

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<v S2>Jewish people are beloved in the sense that they could

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<v S2>rely on God to keep the promise he made to

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<v S2>Abraham and the other patriarchs. And we can't apply this

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<v S2>principle to the ancestors of pagans simply because there's no

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<v S2>record of a promise God made to them. Here's a

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<v S2>simple illustration to show what I mean. Suppose I made

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<v S2>a promise to you and your family, and then later

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<v S2>I had it notarized to make it legally binding. Now,

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<v S2>the fact that I made a promise to you and

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<v S2>your descendants doesn't necessarily mean I also made a similar

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<v S2>promise to someone else. Nor does it keep me from

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<v S2>choosing to do so for someone else later on. The

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<v S2>one really doesn't impact the other. Paul's just saying Israel

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<v S2>has a future because God made a solemn covenant with

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<v S2>the patriarchs and God's gifts and his calling, he says,

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<v S2>are irrevocable. The good news for us is that God

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<v S2>has also given us promises in the New Testament, and

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<v S2>we can depend on those as well.

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<v S1>Nancy takes us to Luke chapter 17, where it says,

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<v S1>they answered and said to him, where, Lord? And he

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<v S1>said to them, wherever the body is, there the eagles

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<v S1>will be gathered together. I've seen many different interpretations that

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<v S1>seem quite confusing. Nancy wants to know what is the body.

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<v S1>Refer to the church. Someone who died in battle. What

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<v S1>are the eagles or vultures symbolize? Is this an allusion

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<v S1>to the rapture, end times or or some past tragedy

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<v S1>that has already taken place?

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<v S2>Well, the phrase appears to be in the form of

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<v S2>a proverb there, though the only other occurrence is in

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<v S2>Matthew 24. But in both cases, it seems the point

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<v S2>of the proverb is that if you want to know

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<v S2>where the dead bodies are, look for vultures circling. Or

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<v S2>perhaps it could be understood this way. If you see

0:35:33.820 --> 0:35:37.149
<v S2>a flock of vultures circling overhead, we can assume something

0:35:37.150 --> 0:35:40.270
<v S2>dead must be somewhere nearby. On the ground below the

0:35:40.270 --> 0:35:43.540
<v S2>object we can see that is, the vultures flying overhead

0:35:43.540 --> 0:35:46.450
<v S2>point towards something that we might not otherwise be able

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<v S2>to see in the context in Luke 17. It's a

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<v S2>context of judgment. In verses 26 and 27, Jesus mentions

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<v S2>the days of Noah, when a flood came and destroyed

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<v S2>them in 28 and 29. He mentions the days of

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<v S2>lot when fire and brimstone came and destroyed them. He

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<v S2>then compares all that to his return and the judgment

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<v S2>it will bring the two people who are in a bed,

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<v S2>or two people who are grinding in verses 34 to

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<v S2>36 represent those who will be alive at his return.

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<v S2>One taken is the one taken in judgment, like in

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<v S2>the flood or in Sodom. And the one who is

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<v S2>left like Noah or Lot is the one who's left

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<v S2>to remain alive. So I think what Jesus is doing

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<v S2>here isn't emphasizing where the judgment will take place or

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<v S2>what the body is, but he's just giving an illustration

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<v S2>to say, when you see the vultures, when you see

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<v S2>the events happening, you know that the judgment is coming.

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<v S1>Well, we've certainly covered a lot of ground today. Thank

0:36:35.580 --> 0:36:38.040
<v S1>you for your hard work on these questions. Yours is

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:42.900
<v S1>welcome any time at the land and the book@moody.edu. Well,

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<v S1>there's more to come in today's program, and that includes

0:36:45.330 --> 0:36:48.720
<v S1>Charlie Dyer's devotional. It's next right here on the land

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<v S1>and the book. Well, you don't need me to tell

0:37:04.140 --> 0:37:06.750
<v S1>you the end of the year is coming. Hi, I'm

0:37:06.750 --> 0:37:09.480
<v S1>John Gager here at the Land and the book. Do

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<v S1>you ever think about the fact that you and I

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<v S1>might need wisdom to finish this year out, and of course,

0:37:14.820 --> 0:37:17.310
<v S1>wisdom as we begin another year. Charlie, is that the

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<v S1>essence of your devotional? I'm looking forward to it, by

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<v S1>the way it is.

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<v S2>We're going to talk about the end of the year

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<v S2>and New year and Wisdom and Solomon. They all fit together.

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<v S1>Okay, I'm looking forward to that after we take in

0:37:28.170 --> 0:37:30.120
<v S1>this Holy Land experience.

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<v S5>I was raised Jewish, so I had a totally different

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<v S5>experience than probably any of your listeners. I thought it

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:43.770
<v S5>was amazing. When I came back, I was more religious

0:37:43.770 --> 0:37:49.440
<v S5>as a Jew. And then in 1985, I had a

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:53.760
<v S5>conversion experience and became a Christian. The Lord totally called

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.700
<v S5>me to follow him and become his child of God.

0:37:57.090 --> 0:37:59.940
<v S5>And I have yet to go back as a Christian,

0:37:59.940 --> 0:38:03.600
<v S5>but I see Israel as a totally different place than

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.629
<v S5>I did as a Jew. One of my favorite experiences

0:38:06.660 --> 0:38:11.009
<v S5>was hiking up the top of Masada at three in

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<v S5>the morning and watching the sun rise and learning all

0:38:14.100 --> 0:38:18.780
<v S5>about how the battle. You know, the battle that was

0:38:18.780 --> 0:38:23.399
<v S5>fought there, they were under attack by Romans, and instead

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:26.399
<v S5>of losing, they all committed suicide. I thought it was

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:30.180
<v S5>noble at the time. That was pretty cool. Absolutely loved

0:38:30.180 --> 0:38:37.020
<v S5>Israel and said, Jesus's birthplace. I saw King David's tomb.

0:38:37.050 --> 0:38:40.230
<v S5>I saw lots of ruins. It was very, very, very

0:38:40.230 --> 0:38:43.200
<v S5>beautiful place to visit. As I said, I'd like to

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<v S5>go back there as a Christian because I would have

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<v S5>a totally different experience now. Thanks for letting me share.

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<v S1>Charlie, I have to confess, I've never given thought to

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.819
<v S1>wisdom to finish the old year out. I'm looking forward

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<v S1>to that and what you have to say about the

0:38:58.350 --> 0:38:59.070
<v S1>new Year.

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<v S2>Yeah. Thanks, John. Well, the orchestra is on stage tuning

0:39:02.310 --> 0:39:05.160
<v S2>up and getting ready to play. The noisemakers and party

0:39:05.190 --> 0:39:08.609
<v S2>hats are arranged on the tables by each place setting,

0:39:08.610 --> 0:39:11.669
<v S2>and the guests are already milling about out in the foyer,

0:39:11.700 --> 0:39:14.880
<v S2>waiting for the banquet doors to open. It's almost time

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:17.820
<v S2>to gather and celebrate the ringing out of an old year,

0:39:17.820 --> 0:39:20.400
<v S2>and the ringing in of a new one. Most of

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:22.980
<v S2>those gathering are more than ready to say goodbye to

0:39:23.010 --> 0:39:27.000
<v S2>the old year. It started last January 1st with such promise,

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<v S2>but in so many ways it failed to live up

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<v S2>to its potential, and each person arriving tonight has his

0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:36.270
<v S2>or her own reasons to feel less than nostalgic over

0:39:36.270 --> 0:39:39.120
<v S2>this past year coming to an end. For some, it

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.250
<v S2>was the loss of a loved one, or the loss

0:39:41.250 --> 0:39:44.580
<v S2>of a job, or the tragic breakup of a relationship,

0:39:44.580 --> 0:39:49.620
<v S2>or an unexpected illness, or serious financial setback or or well,

0:39:49.620 --> 0:39:52.830
<v S2>the circumstances are unique to each person coming through the doors,

0:39:52.830 --> 0:39:56.310
<v S2>but the year certainly had its share of hurt and heartache,

0:39:56.310 --> 0:39:59.009
<v S2>and on this New Year's Eve, most hope the next

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<v S2>year will somehow be different. As we take our seats,

0:40:02.130 --> 0:40:05.730
<v S2>we notice an old, distinguished looking gentleman seated next to us.

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<v S2>We introduce ourselves and discover this is none other than

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<v S2>the wise King Solomon. Taking advantage of the opportunity, we

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:14.910
<v S2>turn to him and say, so, do you have any

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<v S2>words of wisdom for us as we get ready to

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<v S2>start a new year? We're somewhat taken aback when he says,

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<v S2>rather cryptically, there's a time for everything and a season

0:40:24.030 --> 0:40:28.020
<v S2>for every activity under heaven. Well, that's true, we respond.

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<v S2>But exactly what kind of times or seasons might the

0:40:30.930 --> 0:40:34.200
<v S2>new year bring? We try to pin Solomon down to

0:40:34.230 --> 0:40:36.930
<v S2>get his read on the economy or world affairs, or

0:40:36.930 --> 0:40:40.770
<v S2>maybe even our own personal circumstances. But Solomon proves to

0:40:40.770 --> 0:40:43.230
<v S2>be as elusive as trying to pick up a drop

0:40:43.230 --> 0:40:46.680
<v S2>of oil between two fingers. Turning to look directly into

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:50.520
<v S2>our eyes, he compresses the entire new year into 14

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<v S2>pairs of opposites, encompassing all of life. The new Year

0:40:54.510 --> 0:40:56.910
<v S2>will be a time to be born and a time

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<v S2>to die. A time to plant, and a time to uproot,

0:40:59.880 --> 0:41:02.160
<v S2>a time to kill and a time to heal. A

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:04.770
<v S2>time to tear down and a time to build. A

0:41:04.770 --> 0:41:07.319
<v S2>time to weep and a time to laugh. A time

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:09.690
<v S2>to mourn and a time to dance. A time to

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:12.750
<v S2>scatter stones and a time to gather them. A time

0:41:12.750 --> 0:41:15.600
<v S2>to embrace and a time to refrain. A time to

0:41:15.630 --> 0:41:18.000
<v S2>search and a time to give up. A time to

0:41:18.030 --> 0:41:20.130
<v S2>keep and a time to throw away. A time to

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:22.379
<v S2>tear and a time to mend. A time to be

0:41:22.380 --> 0:41:25.020
<v S2>silent and a time to speak. A time to love

0:41:25.020 --> 0:41:27.630
<v S2>and a time to hate. A time for war and

0:41:27.630 --> 0:41:32.340
<v S2>a time for peace. Initially we're at a loss for words.

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<v S2>We were hoping for some golden nuggets of wisdom that

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<v S2>could help us become more healthy, wealthy, and wise in

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:41.279
<v S2>the coming New Year. But instead, Solomon has reminded us

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<v S2>that there will be times in the New Year that

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<v S2>will bring both joy and sorrow that will result in

0:41:46.170 --> 0:41:49.920
<v S2>healing and death. Our emotions will span the gamut from

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:53.820
<v S2>love to hate. Countries will experience both war and peace.

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<v S2>In other words, next year will be very much like

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<v S2>the one just ending. But just as we start to

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<v S2>wrap our minds around these conflicting actions and emotions, Solomon

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<v S2>adds two other truths to this already complex equation. First,

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<v S2>all our effort and toil to get ahead, to reach

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:13.650
<v S2>our own personal goals of life, liberty and the pursuit

0:42:13.650 --> 0:42:18.239
<v S2>of happiness will end up falling short and leaving us unsatisfied.

0:42:18.270 --> 0:42:22.080
<v S2>Solomon immediately goes to the bottom line what does the

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:24.990
<v S2>worker gain from his toil? No matter how hard a

0:42:24.989 --> 0:42:30.390
<v S2>person works, results can be elusive. Sometimes something unexpected can

0:42:30.390 --> 0:42:33.779
<v S2>come along to undermine the business or the property or

0:42:33.780 --> 0:42:36.630
<v S2>the family. And no matter how tightly someone tries to

0:42:36.660 --> 0:42:39.270
<v S2>hang on to all the stuff of life, in the

0:42:39.270 --> 0:42:42.000
<v S2>end he or she must leave it all behind. Death

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:45.270
<v S2>is certain, and no one can carry their material possessions

0:42:45.270 --> 0:42:49.770
<v S2>into eternity. Solomon's Second Truth focuses on the reality that

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<v S2>God has arranged life in a way that causes everything

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<v S2>to be beautiful, or perhaps appropriate in its time. And

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<v S2>because of our God designed nature, we innately understand this

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<v S2>to be true. He has also set eternity in the

0:43:03.420 --> 0:43:06.200
<v S2>hearts of men, but this truth only leads to more

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:09.830
<v S2>frustration on our part, because he says, we cannot fathom

0:43:09.830 --> 0:43:12.470
<v S2>what God has done from beginning to end. We can

0:43:12.469 --> 0:43:14.840
<v S2>see all the different pieces of life, and we get

0:43:14.870 --> 0:43:18.140
<v S2>glimpses of how all those pieces must somehow fit together.

0:43:18.140 --> 0:43:20.840
<v S2>But try as we might, we can't get all the

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:24.560
<v S2>pieces to match up. The sheer complexity of life overwhelms

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:28.400
<v S2>our ability to see the entire picture. The orchestra is

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.950
<v S2>working its way through all the songs as the clock

0:43:30.950 --> 0:43:33.980
<v S2>heads toward midnight. Before very long, it will be time

0:43:33.980 --> 0:43:36.950
<v S2>for them to begin playing Auld Lang Syne, and people

0:43:36.950 --> 0:43:40.820
<v S2>will start singing and blowing their noisemakers. But frankly, we're

0:43:40.820 --> 0:43:43.969
<v S2>too depressed right now to care. We're trying to wrap

0:43:43.969 --> 0:43:48.110
<v S2>our arms around the disturbing truths presented by Solomon. We

0:43:48.140 --> 0:43:51.440
<v S2>finally blurt out, okay, is this what you're saying? This

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:53.899
<v S2>next year will be pretty much like the past year,

0:43:53.900 --> 0:43:56.720
<v S2>and like the one before that, because all of life

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:59.540
<v S2>is a mixture of joy and sadness. It'll be a

0:43:59.540 --> 0:44:02.180
<v S2>year of births and deaths, of hatred and hope, of

0:44:02.180 --> 0:44:05.000
<v S2>weeping and laughing. There are struggles where we'll need to

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:08.089
<v S2>keep searching for answers, and others where we finally need

0:44:08.090 --> 0:44:10.610
<v S2>to acknowledge the hopelessness of it all and give up.

0:44:10.610 --> 0:44:13.190
<v S2>And no matter how hard we try, we'll never be

0:44:13.219 --> 0:44:15.169
<v S2>able to reach a point where we can say we

0:44:15.170 --> 0:44:17.840
<v S2>have it all together, or that we've arrived, or that

0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:20.300
<v S2>we finally understand how it all works. Is that what

0:44:20.300 --> 0:44:25.549
<v S2>you're saying? Touching our arm, Solomon quietly says, yes, that's

0:44:25.550 --> 0:44:28.520
<v S2>what I'm saying. Then how in the world can I

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.130
<v S2>find the wisdom to make it through such a confusing,

0:44:31.130 --> 0:44:34.670
<v S2>frustrating New Year? And with the kind smile of a

0:44:34.670 --> 0:44:37.250
<v S2>man who lived through all the ups and downs of life,

0:44:37.250 --> 0:44:41.120
<v S2>Solomon leans in and says, by remembering this, there is

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:43.370
<v S2>nothing better for men than to be happy and do

0:44:43.370 --> 0:44:46.100
<v S2>good while they live. That everyone may eat and drink

0:44:46.100 --> 0:44:49.130
<v S2>and find satisfaction in all his toil. This is the

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:52.069
<v S2>gift of God. I know that everything God does will

0:44:52.070 --> 0:44:54.980
<v S2>endure forever. Nothing can be added to it and nothing

0:44:55.010 --> 0:44:58.760
<v S2>taken from it. God does it so men will Revere him.

0:44:58.969 --> 0:45:02.150
<v S2>Don't miss my three secrets for living a wise life

0:45:02.150 --> 0:45:05.960
<v S2>in a confusing world first. Don't spend your time trying

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:09.650
<v S2>to pursue happiness. Learn to be satisfied with what you have.

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:13.700
<v S2>Enjoy the blessings God has already provided rather than pushing

0:45:13.730 --> 0:45:17.780
<v S2>to acquire more stuff. Trust me, stuff doesn't provide long

0:45:17.810 --> 0:45:22.400
<v S2>term satisfaction. Second view where you are, what you have,

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:25.220
<v S2>and what you do as gifts from God, and learn

0:45:25.219 --> 0:45:28.700
<v S2>to be thankful for his gracious provision. Learn to enjoy

0:45:28.700 --> 0:45:32.750
<v S2>what he has provided. And third, be willing to admit

0:45:32.750 --> 0:45:35.720
<v S2>you are not God. He understands how life works, but

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:38.600
<v S2>you don't. Trying to put all the pieces together will

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.630
<v S2>only frustrate you. What he has done is what will

0:45:41.630 --> 0:45:45.230
<v S2>endure forever. Just be sure to Revere him by putting

0:45:45.230 --> 0:45:48.230
<v S2>him first in your life. As we rise from the

0:45:48.230 --> 0:45:50.570
<v S2>table and head toward the door, we leave with a

0:45:50.570 --> 0:45:53.960
<v S2>wisdom we didn't possess before. We understand the New Year

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:56.419
<v S2>will be filled with the same highs and lows as

0:45:56.420 --> 0:46:00.350
<v S2>the year just ending. Blind optimism has been replaced with

0:46:00.350 --> 0:46:03.259
<v S2>clear eyed realism. We know that the goal is not

0:46:03.260 --> 0:46:07.009
<v S2>to pursue happiness and strive to acquire more stuff, hoping

0:46:07.010 --> 0:46:09.739
<v S2>to get ahead. We've replaced that with a plan to

0:46:09.770 --> 0:46:12.860
<v S2>enjoy what God does provide. To take pleasure in the

0:46:12.860 --> 0:46:16.340
<v S2>tasks he places before us, and to focus on learning

0:46:16.340 --> 0:46:19.940
<v S2>how to trust him more fully as the year goes on.

0:46:19.940 --> 0:46:22.549
<v S2>And that is indeed a wise way to end this

0:46:22.550 --> 0:46:25.310
<v S2>year and to move on into the new one.

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<v S1>Wow, great perspective there. Thank you. Charlie, I found myself

0:46:28.670 --> 0:46:31.130
<v S1>as I'm listening to you, just wishing I was there

0:46:31.130 --> 0:46:33.290
<v S1>in the room with Solomon. But in a sense, every

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:36.080
<v S1>time we open the book and read that passage, we

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:37.009
<v S1>really are right.

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:38.750
<v S2>That's exactly right. Yeah.

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<v S1>Well, it's been a great broadcast. I hope you enjoyed it.

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<v S1>Our host, doctor Charlie Dyer. I'm John Gager. Dan Anderson,

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<v S1>our producer. All three of us say thank you to

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<v S1>you for carving out time to be with us here

0:46:49.190 --> 0:46:52.339
<v S1>at The Land and the book, a production of Moody Radio,

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<v S1>a ministry of Moody Bible Institute.