WEBVTT - Hour 2: The Resurrection Appearances of Jesus Christ

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<v S1>Hello friends. It's time for the second hour of Open

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<v S1>Line with Doctor Michael Redlich. I'm Michael Redlich, professor of

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<v S1>Jewish studies and Bible at Moody Bible Institute, and I'm

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<v S1>coming to you from the Moody Radio Studios at Moody

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<v S1>Bible Institute in downtown Chicago. Although normally you call with

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<v S1>your questions about the Bible, God, and the spiritual life,

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<v S1>that's not what we're going to do today. Instead, there

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<v S1>will be a conversation, a little Bible study, if you will,

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<v S1>between me and my good friend, Doctor Michael Van Laningham,

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<v S1>the smartest guy about the New Testament that I know.

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<v S1>He always waves his hand off when I say that. Specifically,

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<v S1>we are going to talk about the New Testament records

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<v S1>about the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. Obviously, tomorrow is

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<v S1>Resurrection Sunday, and people are always talking about the resurrection

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<v S1>appearances as they are recorded in the Gospels and even

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<v S1>as they're mentioned in the epistles. And so we're going

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<v S1>to talk about those. And not only will we talk

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<v S1>about how to work them all together, but we are

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<v S1>going to talk about how important and significant they are.

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<v S1>hope you have your Bibles open. I hope you have

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<v S1>a second cup of coffee because we're ready to talk

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<v S1>about the scriptures. Okay, Michael, thank you for coming in

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<v S1>to talk about this.

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<v S2>My pleasure. Michael. It's always good to see you and

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<v S2>to be able to do this and to talk about

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<v S2>the resurrection Easter. That's pretty cool.

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<v S1>Yeah, I think that that's, uh, the most important issue

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<v S1>that we have. You know, I've often said this, that

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<v S1>there are about 20,000 Jewish men who were crucified by

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<v S1>the Romans. If Jesus were not raised from the dead,

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<v S1>he'd be just one of them, right? But the resurrection

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<v S1>is what makes it all different. And one of my

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<v S1>key frustrations here is I often hear people share the gospel,

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<v S1>and I'm grateful, by the way, that people share the gospel.

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<v S1>And I hear advertisements on various Christian radio networks, you know,

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<v S1>promoting proclaiming the gospel. And sometimes, sadly, they will talk

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<v S1>all about how Jesus died for us and never mentioned

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<v S1>the resurrection.

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<v S2>And and it's interesting in the book of acts, there are,

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<v S2>I think, five different occasions where Christian evangelists or apostles

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<v S2>are witnessing to unbelievers. And if my memory serves me correctly,

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<v S2>on every single occasion, those evangelists refer to the resurrection.

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<v S2>We don't normally do that, but they did. And I

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<v S2>think that's instructive for us.

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<v S1>Yeah, I've noticed, uh, back in the day when I

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<v S1>was doing my doctoral dissertation Anyway, I did some research

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<v S1>on how the book of acts proclaimed the gospel, and

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<v S1>there were two essential methods that they used in the

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<v S1>book of acts. One was through using messianic prophecy. That

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<v S1>was one evidence that they used the evidence of messianic prophecy.

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<v S1>And the second evidence was the fact of the resurrection

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<v S1>that Jesus has raised from the dead was most crucial.

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<v S1>So anyway, we're going to look at some of the

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<v S1>resurrection appearances. And the reason why I think this is

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<v S1>so important is one of the main questions I get

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<v S1>throughout the year is people trying to harmonize the Gospels

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<v S1>and harmonize how everything fit together. Bible chronology. It's really

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<v S1>not my strong suit, but people say, well, you know,

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<v S1>you have this gospel and it contradicts that gospel, and

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<v S1>I don't think they contradict, I think they complement. And

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<v S1>so often we've got these resurrection appearances and frequently people

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<v S1>will call with questions about that. So what I want

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<v S1>to do, if we can is kind of work our

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<v S1>way through what the gospels say and harmonize them. Show

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<v S1>how they fit together in terms of how the resurrection happened. Now,

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<v S1>here's what's really important is I think each writer wrote

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<v S1>from their own perspective. They didn't necessarily feel like they

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<v S1>had to put all the facts in. They were just

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<v S1>putting the facts in that fit with their message. On

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<v S1>the other hand, they didn't contradict each other. What they

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<v S1>do is they actually complement each other. So okay, so

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<v S1>let's begin. What's the first step in the whole story

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<v S1>about the resurrection?

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<v S2>Well, it's, um, the the tomb being opened and the

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<v S2>body being apparent that it's gone. Mhm.

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<v S1>Yeah. That's I guess you could look at that in

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<v S1>a variety of places in Mark 16, Luke 24, I

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<v S1>want to look at Matthew 28. And the reason why

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<v S1>I think that's interesting in Matthew is he doesn't really

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<v S1>put it in chronological order.

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<v S2>Right.

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<v S1>He starts with, uh, verse One, he says, after the Sabbath,

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<v S1>on the first day of the week was dawning, Mary

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<v S1>Magdalene and the other Mary went to view the tomb.

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<v S1>And then it says, suddenly there was a violent earthquake. Now,

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<v S1>I think the earthquake happened just before they got to

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<v S1>the tomb, right? But but nevertheless, uh, and the other

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<v S1>gospels all show it that way. So that's one of

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<v S1>the first contradictions that people often point out, that if

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<v S1>you look at the other gospels. Is that right? Is

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<v S1>that how they do it?

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<v S2>That is exactly how they do it, right?

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<v S1>So how do we justify that verse one and verse

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<v S1>two being sort of out of order?

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<v S2>I you know, I'm not quite sure actually, Michael, it

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<v S2>is interesting. I think there's some other things as well, um,

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<v S2>where you've got people being referred to as being resurrected,

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<v S2>brought out of the tombs, um, earthquakes taking place. But

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<v S2>that's actually after the resurrection. But it's included in Matthew

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<v S2>27 before, before narrative account. And I think that's being done.

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<v S2>So it's a not interrupt the actual, uh, reference to

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<v S2>the resurrection of Jesus. They don't. Matthew doesn't want to

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<v S2>interject that with other things. And so it seems to

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<v S2>me that, um, it's very it's quite possible, I think,

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<v S2>in verse one that Mary is coming to look at

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<v S2>the tomb. Mary. Um, both Mary Magdalene and Mary, the

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<v S2>mother of James, and, um, and Salome, actually, from another

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<v S2>passage come. And perhaps it's while they're coming that this

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<v S2>earthquake happens. But I don't think we have a contradiction.

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<v S1>I don't think it's a contradiction. I think that's exactly it,

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<v S1>the way Matthew's telling it is. This is why they're

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<v S1>on their way. They're going to do this. And then

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<v S1>the resurrection happens and they get there. Right. And and

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<v S1>what do they see there? I think that's so cool.

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<v S1>They see, uh, it says there was an angel of

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<v S1>the Lord descended from heaven and approached the tomb. He

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<v S1>rolled back the stone and was sitting on it. I

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<v S1>just can't fathom what that would have been We'd like

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<v S1>to see him kind of nonchalantly sitting on the Rollaway stone,

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<v S1>don't you think? What a great image.

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<v S2>Yeah, it's it's something to think about. I've heard all

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<v S2>the also, by the way, that there are scholars who

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<v S2>maintain that the verb rolled away doesn't really mean rolled away.

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<v S2>It means moved away, and that the stone may have

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<v S2>actually been a fairly large square stone with perhaps a

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<v S2>couple of those stuck into the opening. And so rather

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<v S2>than have the angels sit on a stone laying almost

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<v S2>flat on the ground, which would be sort of awkward,

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<v S2>he's actually sitting on the stone as if it's more

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<v S2>of a cube bench like thing. It doesn't. It doesn't

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<v S2>really matter. It doesn't really matter at all. But he's there.

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<v S2>And can you imagine the reaction of the women?

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<v S1>Yeah. And his appearance was like lightning and his robe

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<v S1>was white as snow. And the guards, these tough Roman guards,

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<v S1>they're so frightened that they. They became like dead men. Right? Yeah.

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<v S1>So it is. But that's not an appearance of the Messiah.

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<v S1>That's just an appearance of an angel. Right. And an

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<v S1>empty tomb. And so they visit the tomb and they

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<v S1>discover that he is missing. And where do we go

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<v S1>from there? What's the next step?

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<v S2>Well, I find it interesting that, um. What what the

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<v S2>angel tells them. It's really interesting in in Matthew 28.

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<v S2>You've got people being told to tell others about this. Yeah.

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<v S2>In verse seven, the angel says, go quickly. Tell his

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<v S2>disciples he's risen from the dead. Then look at verse ten.

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<v S2>He says, Then Jesus appears. Right. Yeah. Uh, then Jesus

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<v S2>said to them, do not be afraid. Go and take

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<v S2>a word to my brethren to leave for Galilee. And

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<v S2>there they will see me. And uh, in verse 15,

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<v S2>even the soldiers tell people of something that gives a

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<v S2>sort of a backward, a back door argument supporting the

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<v S2>resurrection that the body's been stolen. And so they're going

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<v S2>to tell people that. And then in verse 19, of course,

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<v S2>in the, in the um, in the Great Commission, you know, go, uh,

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<v S2>tell them. Yeah, teach them everything. So.

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<v S1>Well, anyway. Right, right from the beginning, even before the

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<v S1>resurrection appearance. Right there from the angel. Right. There's the

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<v S1>the announcement or the the command to go tell. Right.

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<v S1>Go tell the disciples.

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<v S2>That's I think this is one of the emphases in

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<v S2>Matthew is that they need to go. They need to tell.

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<v S2>And I think the implication for us is we ought

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<v S2>to be doing the same.

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<v S1>Yeah, yeah. That's the I think that that's one of

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<v S1>the more interesting things that we are really compelled to

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<v S1>proclaim this. Uh, it's my wife's favorite verse. Just so

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<v S1>you know, yours is Romans 828. I've heard you say

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<v S1>that so many times. Uh, but my wife's favorite verse, interestingly,

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<v S1>is second Timothy two eight. And, uh, it's because, uh,

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<v S1>she loves that Jesus is the king. Yeah. That he's

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<v S1>fully human. And the king. And the resurrection. She loves

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<v S1>that because it proves he's God. And, uh. And so

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<v S1>she's she loves second Timothy two eight. Uh, keep your

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<v S1>attention on Jesus, the Messiah, risen from the dead, descended

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<v S1>from David. And, uh, and that's what that ought to be.

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<v S1>Our message. Yeah. Uh, then, because Paul goes on to say,

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<v S1>according to my gospel. Right. Uh, this is the good news.

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<v S1>Jesus is not just someone who died for us. He's

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<v S1>raised from the dead, proves he's God. So anyway, we're

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<v S1>going to talk about harmonizing some of the other appearances

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<v S1>in just a moment. And we're going to work our

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<v S1>way through all these resurrection appearances. Really appreciate those comments

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<v S1>on Matthew 28. You're listening to a special resurrection focused

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<v S1>open line on Moody Radio's Bible Study Across America. When

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<v S1>I come back, Mike V and I will be back

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<v S1>talking about the resurrection of the Messiah. So stay right there.

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<v S1>can go over there. Uh, this morning I am talking

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<v S1>with my guest, uh, Doctor Michael Van Laningham, the other Michael,

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<v S1>as some people call him. Uh, my colleague here at

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<v S1>Moody Bible Institute and also the co-editor of the Moody

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<v S1>Bible Commentary. And we are talking about the resurrection appearances

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<v S1>because people think you can't make heads or tails out

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<v S1>of all the New Testament comments about it. And I

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<v S1>think we can. We've already talked about the the stone

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<v S1>being moved away and an angel telling the women to

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<v S1>go tell, uh, what next happens really is that one

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<v S1>of the women goes to tell.

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<v S2>Yeah in in John 20 and verse two it says, uh,

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<v S2>she and that's uh, Mary Magdalene Eggeling ran and came

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<v S2>to Simon Peter and to the other disciple I'm reading now.

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<v S2>She ran and came to Simon Peter, and to the

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<v S2>other disciple whom Jesus loved, and said to them, they've

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<v S2>taken away the Lord out of the tomb, and we

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<v S2>do not know where they have laid him. That follows

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<v S2>from verse one, where she comes to the tomb early,

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<v S2>when it was dark and found the stone had already

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<v S2>been taken away from the tomb. So she goes and tells.

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<v S1>She didn't wait for the angel to say what he

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<v S1>said to Salome and to the other Mary. She just

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<v S1>turns around and heads out, I don't know where the

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<v S1>body is. I don't know where it is exactly. And but,

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<v S1>you know, I think it's interesting that she goes to

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<v S1>the one that she thought could help her. So she

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<v S1>tells Peter and John. Right. And of course, what do

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<v S1>Peter and John do?

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<v S2>Well, um, they run to the tomb. Yeah. Yeah. Um,

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<v S2>you know, before that, though, in, in, uh, Matthew 28,

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<v S2>5 to 7, Mary, the mother of James and Salome

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<v S2>saw an angel. Yeah.

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<v S1>Inside the tube. Yeah.

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<v S2>Who announced the resurrection? Directed the women to tell the

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<v S2>disciples that Jesus would meet them in Galilee. Um, again,

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<v S2>Matthew 28 5 to 7, where the angel says, let

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<v S2>him go to Galilee. They'll see Jesus there.

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<v S1>Now, here's an interesting question someone asked me last week,

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<v S1>they said was the first appearance of the Lord Jesus,

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<v S1>because he says he'll meet them in Galilee was the

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<v S1>first appearance to the apostles in Galilee. It wasn't. Uh,

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<v S1>I think they should have gone right away, but apparently

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<v S1>they delayed.

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<v S2>Right.

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<v S1>And so twice he tells them to to meet them.

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<v S1>The angel tells them, and the Lord Jesus, uh, announces

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<v S1>that he'll meet them in Galilee. But they don't go.

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<v S1>They stay in Jerusalem for a few days, and apparently

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<v S1>they were planning on going. Uh, what do you. Is

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<v S1>that how you resolve that?

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<v S2>Um, it. Yeah, I would say that that's probably the

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<v S2>best explanation as to as to why that is the case. Um, because.

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<v S1>He appears to them in Jerusalem before he appears.

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<v S2>To them. He does. And so, um, I don't know

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<v S2>that they're being disobedient. There may have been confusion, understandable confusion,

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<v S2>but for whatever reason they delay. And he appears to

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<v S2>them before Galilee.

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<v S1>Yeah. He does. Uh, so they they make their way, uh, to, uh,

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<v S1>to the disciples. They talk about this, uh, and what

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<v S1>does it say? Uh, that they left the tomb quickly

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<v S1>with fear and great joy. This is Matthew 28 A

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<v S1>and ran to report to his disciples what the angel

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<v S1>had told them that he was risen. Um. And now

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<v S1>other women appear. Is that what happens next?

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<v S2>Right? Um. Joanna, um, one of the women from Galilee

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<v S2>arrives at the tomb carrying oil, perfumed oil, to anoint

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<v S2>the body of Jesus. And, um, a they the other

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<v S2>women from Galilee and Joanna meet two men. Apparently they're angels,

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<v S2>according to Luke 24, verse four and 23. And then

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<v S2>they returned to report the angel's message of the resurrection

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<v S2>to the 11 and to all the rest. And we

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<v S2>find that in Luke chapter 24, verses one through nine. Um,

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<v S2>in Luke 24 2223, the disciples recap that episode, they say,

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<v S2>but also some women among us amazed us when they

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<v S2>were at the tomb early in the morning and did

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<v S2>not find his body. They came saying they had also

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<v S2>seen a vision of angels who said that he was alive.

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<v S1>Yeah. Okay, so here's the question that people ask why

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<v S1>do they want to anoint Jesus with perfumed oil?

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<v S2>Yeah, they that's that's not for embalming. The Egyptians did embalming.

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<v S2>The Jewish people didn't actually embalm the tombs that that

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<v S2>rich people were buried in, because not everybody was buried

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<v S2>in a tomb. Tombs were enormously expensive. Most people, when

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<v S2>they died, were buried in the ground after being placed

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<v S2>inside a shroud. But when the people were buried in

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<v S2>a tomb, the tombs were not typically airtight. And so

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<v S2>they were oftentimes anointed with these spices and these perfumed

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<v S2>oils to cut the odors of decomposition, which would have

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<v S2>been tremendously offensive. And so that's what they are doing.

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<v S2>They're trying to take a step to honor the the

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<v S2>body of Jesus in preparation for him being buried in

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<v S2>a tomb.

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<v S1>Yeah. And I think that's so interesting to me is that, uh,

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<v S1>Mary in John 12, she's mentioned as one who anoints

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<v S1>Jesus before his death. And it's in Matthew, I think

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<v S1>it's about chapter 26. It talks there about how she

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<v S1>anointed him in preparation for his burial. Right. With, with.

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<v S1>And so I think it's interesting she's not one of

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<v S1>the ones that shows up here. She anticipated this, and

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<v S1>she wants to honor him even before he dies in

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<v S1>this way. It's really interesting. But they do come and

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<v S1>that's why they're doing this. And the other question that

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<v S1>I'll tell you how I answer it, because I don't

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<v S1>know the answer to all these things, but I can

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<v S1>guess people want to know, well, how did they expect

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<v S1>to move that that stone? I think they must have

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<v S1>thought they'd get those soldiers to help or something like that.

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<v S2>Could be. Or that maybe they would find others who

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<v S2>would gather at the tomb as well, and altogether they

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<v S2>would move the stone and then anoint his body. And

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<v S2>who knows?

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<v S1>I don't know, I just I just don't know. Uh,

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<v S1>but they certainly thought that they could they could get

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<v S1>in there and do that. So. Um, okay. Uh, so

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<v S1>then the very next event that happens is that, uh,

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<v S1>Peter and John run to the tomb, right?

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<v S2>Um, when Mary Magdalene heads back to the city and

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<v S2>she finds some of the other disciples, Peter and John here,

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<v S2>and maybe some others as well. Hear what she has

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<v S2>to say. And they run to the tomb. On the

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<v S2>way they do not meet Mary and Salome. They, when

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<v S2>they get to the tomb, they see the Graveclothes, and

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<v S2>then they head back to the city themselves. It says

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<v S2>in in Luke 2424, some of those who were with

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<v S2>us went to the tomb and found it exactly as

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<v S2>the women also had said, but him they did not see.

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<v S2>And in Luke 2412, just before that it says, Peter

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<v S2>got up and ran to the tomb. Stooping and looking in,

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<v S2>he saw the linen wrappings only, and he went to

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<v S2>his home, marveling at what had happened.

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<v S1>Yeah, in the John passage that speaks about this, says

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<v S1>they saw the linen linen wrappings lying there and there

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<v S1>rolled up in a place by itself. And it's sort

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<v S1>of tidy, folded, rolled up or folded up. And there's

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<v S1>been a lot of speculation about this that I've been

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<v S1>hearing on the internet about some a lot of people

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<v S1>call with questions. What does the folded face cloth.

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<v S2>The folded napkin.

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<v S1>The folded napkin mean? And, uh, first of all, I

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<v S1>think people make a mistake. They say this cultural background because,

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<v S1>you know, with the internet, all sorts of wrong things

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<v S1>can get out there.

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<v S3>Oh, really?

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<v S1>Oh, yeah. Ever heard of that? Oh, no. Yeah.

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<v S2>I thought everything on the internet is true.

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<v S1>Yeah. Well, no, this one isn't. At least know the

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<v S1>cultural background that that people cite. As they say, when

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<v S1>you go to a meal in a Jewish cultural home,

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<v S1>first century, that if you still were coming back for more,

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<v S1>that you folded your napkin. Otherwise you wrinkled it up

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<v S1>and tossed it aside.

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<v S3>Have you ever heard of that?

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<v S1>No. It's nowhere in the. It's nowhere in Jewish culture.

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<v S1>Nowhere in the Mishna.

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<v S3>I mean, I don't.

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<v S2>I don't know, a 10th of it as you do.

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<v S2>But I've never heard anything even remotely like that.

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<v S1>No. And I've read through the mission of trying to see.

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<v S1>But the other thing is, even if it were true,

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<v S1>this is not a meal that's not a napkin like

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<v S1>a napkin that you have at a meal. It's a

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<v S1>face cloth that was used for burial. And so it

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<v S1>has nothing to do with that. We don't know. It

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<v S1>doesn't say why everything is so laid out there orderly,

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<v S1>because the Bible doesn't tell us. But I can speculate,

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<v S1>since the first word for Mary Magdalene was they've taken

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<v S1>his body grave robbers. And so they come there. Peter

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<v S1>and John. And they see that it's all neatly folded.

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<v S1>Grave robbers don't do that, right. Something other than a

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<v S1>grave robbery has happened here.

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<v S2>They would go in and just thrash everything around and

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<v S2>grab the body and take off, or grab stuff and

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<v S2>take off. But they would not be careful about folding

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<v S2>things up.

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<v S1>Yeah. So to me, this is that's, I think, crucial.

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<v S1>But still. Do you know what I think is interesting

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<v S1>at this point? The Lord Jesus has not yet appeared. Right.

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<v S1>And it is right after this that there is that

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<v S1>the disciples leave. They go back. And Mary Magdalene, who

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<v S1>is so heartbroken, she is weeping at the grave. Right.

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<v S1>And that's what's next, right?

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<v S2>That's what's next. Uh, Mary Magdalene, um, follows Peter and

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<v S2>John when they go back to the when they go

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<v S2>to the tomb and they see the grave clothes all

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<v S2>folded up. Mary follows them back there. They all see

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<v S2>two angels inside. And then Mary meets Jesus. It says

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<v S2>in verse 13 of John chapter 20. They said to her,

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<v S2>the angels did, woman, why are you weeping? She said

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<v S2>to them, because they have taken away, my lord. I

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<v S2>do not know where they have laid him. When she

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<v S2>had said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there,

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<v S2>and did not know that it was Jesus. Jesus said

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<v S2>to her, woman, why are you weeping? Whom are you seeking?

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<v S2>Supposing him to be the gardener, she said, sir, if

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<v S2>you have carried him away, tell me where you've laid him,

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<v S2>and I will, uh. I will take him away. Jesus

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<v S2>said to her. Mary. She turned and said to him

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<v S2>in Hebrew, Rabboni, which means teacher. Jesus said to her,

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<v S2>stop clinging to me, for I have not ascended to

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<v S2>the to the father, but go to my brethren, and

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<v S2>say to them, I ascend to my father, and to

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<v S2>your father, and my God, and your God.

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<v S1>Yeah, that's one of my favorite scenes. Uh, this woman

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<v S1>is so heartbroken at the death of Jesus. And, uh,

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<v S1>and now that pain of loss is made worse because

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<v S1>she thinks someone has taken his body. And now some

0:22:41.630 --> 0:22:45.229
<v S1>people say, why didn't she recognize him? Did did Jesus

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<v S1>look different? I don't think that's the case. You know,

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<v S1>she was in the garden. It was early morning. He

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<v S1>may have been in the distance. He wasn't standing next

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<v S1>to her. And what was she doing? She was weeping.

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<v S1>She was crying hysterically. I mean, that's pretty clear from

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<v S1>what it's saying, that that she was just heartbrokenly weeping.

0:23:08.030 --> 0:23:10.790
<v S1>And so she thought, oh, there's someone else here early.

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<v S1>Must be the gardener, right?

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<v S2>It's funny too, if you don't expect to see somebody

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<v S2>or you see somebody out of the normal context where

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<v S2>you know them, that happens to me all the time.

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<v S2>Where I'll know a student from a study abroad in

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<v S2>Israel from two years ago. And we were close and

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<v S2>we had a great time there. And then they show

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<v S2>up later at here at Moody in your class, in

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<v S2>my class and I go, do I know you? You know,

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<v S2>I said, you look kind of familiar to me. And

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<v S2>so it's embarrassing, but but I wonder if some of

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<v S2>that isn't what's going on here. Mary would not have

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<v S2>expected to have seen Jesus alive. She didn't. She hadn't

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<v S2>read this story yet. Plus, the last time she saw him,

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<v S2>he was beat up, crucified. He was in bad shape.

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<v S1>Yeah. How could he look like this?

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<v S2>And he wouldn't look like this now, in the resurrection.

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<v S1>Yeah. And, uh, now, the other thing that people often

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<v S1>ask me about this passage, and I think you and

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<v S1>I are agreed on this. People say, well, if the

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<v S1>Lord Jesus has not yet ascended to his father, right? Uh,

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<v S1>that that he he has just been for three days,

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<v S1>three nights in the tomb. But his spirit was in hell.

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<v S1>And that's why he says, don't touch me, for I

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<v S1>have not yet ascended to the father. Uh, quick answer

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<v S1>on that.

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<v S2>Yeah, I would say that that's that's reading really an

0:24:25.619 --> 0:24:28.140
<v S2>awful lot of theology in here that I don't think

0:24:28.140 --> 0:24:30.100
<v S2>you can actually get from the text. It seems better

0:24:30.100 --> 0:24:33.420
<v S2>to me that she's clinging to him and he's saying, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

0:24:33.420 --> 0:24:35.940
<v S2>I haven't ascended yet. I'm going to be around here

0:24:35.940 --> 0:24:39.980
<v S2>for a while and so we'll have a chance to interact.

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<v S2>But right now, don't don't be. Don't be clinging.

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<v S1>She's not just touching him.

0:24:43.460 --> 0:24:44.340
<v S2>She's she's.

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<v S1>Grabbing.

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<v S2>Grabbing him. Don't, don't. This is not a time for clinging.

0:24:47.420 --> 0:24:51.180
<v S2>Go and tell. Go tell the disciples I'm. I'm risen. Yeah,

0:24:51.220 --> 0:24:52.220
<v S2>that's what's going on here.

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<v S1>Yeah, yeah. When? When the Lord Jesus died, uh, his

0:24:55.619 --> 0:24:57.580
<v S1>spirit ascended to the father. He said, father, into your

0:24:57.580 --> 0:24:59.780
<v S1>hands I commend my spirit. He said to the the

0:24:59.780 --> 0:25:01.899
<v S1>thief on the cross next to him, this day you'll

0:25:01.900 --> 0:25:06.820
<v S1>be together with me in Paradise. Uh, his spirit, uh,

0:25:06.820 --> 0:25:09.300
<v S1>at his physical body's death, went to the father.

0:25:09.300 --> 0:25:10.980
<v S2>And this body stayed in the tomb.

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<v S1>And then at the resurrection, he's telling her I'm. My

0:25:14.900 --> 0:25:17.060
<v S1>ascension is yet 40 days away. Right. That's what.

0:25:17.060 --> 0:25:18.060
<v S2>I'm going to be around for.

0:25:18.060 --> 0:25:20.180
<v S1>A while. I'll be around. And I think that's that's

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<v S1>important to understand. When we look at this, there's not

0:25:23.020 --> 0:25:26.160
<v S1>something supernatural, mystical happening there, right? You know, which is

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.920
<v S1>how people want to do it well or see it well.

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:30.439
<v S1>I can't believe it. We're going to be back to

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<v S1>talk more about the resurrection in just a moment. If

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<v S1>you have a question, you can always write to us.

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<v S1>Line radio.org. Welcome back to Open Line with doctor Michael

0:26:37.380 --> 0:26:42.220
<v S1>Ray Melnick. That's me. But joining me is my co laborer,

0:26:42.220 --> 0:26:45.580
<v S1>my co-editor in the Moody Bible Commentary, my colleague here

0:26:45.580 --> 0:26:49.940
<v S1>at Moody Bible Institute, New Testament professor doctor Mike Van Laningham.

0:26:49.940 --> 0:26:53.540
<v S1>And we are talking about the resurrection appearances and trying

0:26:53.540 --> 0:26:55.980
<v S1>to harmonize what all the New Testament has to say

0:26:55.980 --> 0:26:59.699
<v S1>about it. Uh, we last left. The last one we

0:26:59.700 --> 0:27:03.300
<v S1>talked about was Mary Magdalene meeting her Lord, risen Lord,

0:27:03.300 --> 0:27:06.220
<v S1>and being told to go back and tell the disciples,

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<v S1>does she obey?

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<v S2>Yes.

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<v S1>Yeah. What does she do?

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<v S2>Well, she goes and and and in Luke chapter 20,

0:27:14.020 --> 0:27:17.100
<v S2>verse 18 says, Mary Magdalene came announcing to the disciples,

0:27:17.260 --> 0:27:20.659
<v S2>I have seen the Lord now before she saw an

0:27:20.660 --> 0:27:25.240
<v S2>empty grave. Yeah. Now she says I've seen him in

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:26.159
<v S2>the resurrection.

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<v S1>Isn't that great? Yeah. What? And now this changed her.

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:31.480
<v S1>Remember what she was like at the start of that

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:36.320
<v S1>passage in John 20? She's weeping. She's hysterically crying, and

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:37.960
<v S1>she has been transformed.

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:38.800
<v S2>Not anymore.

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:42.520
<v S1>Yeah. Now she's declaring with joy. I think I've seen

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:43.800
<v S1>the Lord. He's alive.

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:47.080
<v S2>And if he hadn't actually been raised, she would not

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:48.400
<v S2>have had that kind of change.

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.840
<v S1>No, no. And that's one of the things that over

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:55.840
<v S1>and over we see the resurrection changes people. Right? And

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.520
<v S1>that's the transforming power of the resurrection. And right here,

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:02.680
<v S1>Mary Magdalene goes from sorrow to great joy, great sorrow

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.760
<v S1>to great joy. And I think that that principle of

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:08.760
<v S1>the resurrection, when we meet Jesus, you know, our life

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:12.200
<v S1>is not going to be all, you know, unicorn and bliss,

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.920
<v S1>you know. You know, it's just happiness and joy. But

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:19.760
<v S1>there will be an intrinsic joy. Whatever the difficulties that

0:28:19.900 --> 0:28:22.300
<v S1>we have in life. And I've talked to people who

0:28:22.340 --> 0:28:26.580
<v S1>have had tremendous sorrow just caused by their own sinful lives,

0:28:26.820 --> 0:28:29.379
<v S1>and they talk about the great change of coming to

0:28:29.420 --> 0:28:33.740
<v S1>know Jesus is being brought to joy. And I think

0:28:33.740 --> 0:28:36.540
<v S1>that that's the great model here from Mary Magdalene.

0:28:36.580 --> 0:28:37.060
<v S2>Right?

0:28:37.140 --> 0:28:41.860
<v S1>Yeah. So okay, then Mary, the mother of James and

0:28:41.860 --> 0:28:47.020
<v S1>Salome met Jesus, and they were directed to tell the

0:28:47.020 --> 0:28:50.820
<v S1>brethren to go to Galilee. So again, once again, they're

0:28:50.820 --> 0:28:52.700
<v S1>going to go tell them to go to Galilee.

0:28:52.740 --> 0:28:56.100
<v S2>Right. And so and so now you know again Mary,

0:28:56.620 --> 0:28:59.260
<v S2>the mother of James and Salome. Now they meet Jesus

0:28:59.260 --> 0:28:59.860
<v S2>as well.

0:28:59.940 --> 0:29:04.220
<v S1>Mhm. And that's in Matthew 28. They meet Jesus and

0:29:04.580 --> 0:29:07.180
<v S1>he tells them, Go to Galilee, which they will do ultimately,

0:29:07.180 --> 0:29:11.140
<v S1>but they will also, uh, for now they're going to

0:29:11.140 --> 0:29:13.700
<v S1>stay in Jerusalem. Maybe they're delaying, maybe I don't think

0:29:13.700 --> 0:29:17.980
<v S1>they're disobeying so much as delaying. But I actually think

0:29:17.980 --> 0:29:20.160
<v S1>the Lord Jesus said, and he said, Go to Galilee.

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:21.920
<v S1>I think he wanted them to go to Galilee right then.

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.440
<v S2>And it could be because because of the next point. Yeah. Um,

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:29.320
<v S2>that they may not have believed the reports of these people,

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.920
<v S2>that they'd seen the Lord. And so why go to Galilee?

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:33.960
<v S2>Because Jesus tell them to go to Galilee when they

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:34.920
<v S2>still don't. Really.

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:36.240
<v S1>That's one of those things. You think I want to

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:38.560
<v S1>see that with my own eyes before I start believing that?

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:42.280
<v S2>It is interesting. The next thing in Luke 24 1011

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:47.240
<v S2>it says, um, and now they'd had reports from Mary Magdalene, Joanna,

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.440
<v S2>and the women from Galilee, Mary and Salome. But the

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:54.280
<v S2>disciples on the whole refused to believe. The report says.

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<v S1>These words appeared to be nonsense.

0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:01.959
<v S2>Yeah, that's exactly right. Luke 24, verse 11. Um, but

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:04.440
<v S2>these words appear to them as nonsense, and they would

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.120
<v S2>not believe them. Yeah. Understandable.

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:10.360
<v S1>Yeah, it's understandable. But, you know, I often think about

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:13.200
<v S1>how in the Gospels, uh, it talks about how the

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.720
<v S1>Lord Jesus would say, I'm going to Jerusalem, and there

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:18.970
<v S1>the Son of Man will be crucified. And he'll be

0:30:18.970 --> 0:30:22.290
<v S1>raised on the third day. And they're like, no, no, no.

0:30:22.330 --> 0:30:25.810
<v S1>I remember in Matthew 16 Peter says, no, no, no, no,

0:30:25.810 --> 0:30:26.690
<v S1>that's not how it's going to.

0:30:26.770 --> 0:30:28.290
<v S2>That's not going to, that's not how it goes.

0:30:28.330 --> 0:30:30.489
<v S1>Yeah, right. So they didn't even want to believe that

0:30:30.490 --> 0:30:32.970
<v S1>he was going to be crucified, let alone raised. They

0:30:32.970 --> 0:30:38.170
<v S1>were not. It's it's just so incomprehensible right now. One

0:30:38.170 --> 0:30:39.970
<v S1>of my favorite appearances. And again, this is one of

0:30:39.970 --> 0:30:42.290
<v S1>the ones where they don't recognize Jesus because probably because

0:30:42.290 --> 0:30:45.209
<v S1>they were not expecting him. It's not. This is Cleopas

0:30:45.210 --> 0:30:49.729
<v S1>and his friends. Uh, and friend, I should say. Uh,

0:30:50.290 --> 0:30:55.850
<v S1>and they are, uh, they're part of the wider group

0:30:55.850 --> 0:30:59.730
<v S1>of disciples. But they're not the 11 that remain. And

0:31:00.410 --> 0:31:04.890
<v S1>they they meet the Lord Jesus in the it's described

0:31:05.130 --> 0:31:08.250
<v S1>on a road to Emmaus, which is just outside of Jerusalem.

0:31:08.250 --> 0:31:11.810
<v S2>And it is interesting, though, that there is some suggestion

0:31:12.330 --> 0:31:15.370
<v S2>that it was actually hidden from them. They they were

0:31:15.870 --> 0:31:18.350
<v S2>not allowed by the Lord to recognize Jesus. In verse

0:31:18.350 --> 0:31:22.670
<v S2>16 it says, but their eyes were prevented from recognizing him.

0:31:22.710 --> 0:31:25.830
<v S2>And then in verse 30 and verse 31 it says,

0:31:25.830 --> 0:31:28.670
<v S2>then their eyes were opened and they recognized him. And

0:31:28.670 --> 0:31:30.990
<v S2>so I think there was something more going on here

0:31:30.990 --> 0:31:34.470
<v S2>as to why they were prevented from recognizing him. I

0:31:34.470 --> 0:31:35.470
<v S2>don't know, but.

0:31:35.470 --> 0:31:38.030
<v S1>Maybe it was their lack of faith in the resurrection.

0:31:38.070 --> 0:31:40.910
<v S2>Maybe, maybe there was more that he needed to interact

0:31:40.910 --> 0:31:44.430
<v S2>with them about before they would really believe it. I don't,

0:31:44.430 --> 0:31:45.470
<v S2>I don't know, hard to say.

0:31:45.510 --> 0:31:47.630
<v S1>I do think it's interesting what they say to this

0:31:48.030 --> 0:31:51.550
<v S1>stranger they don't recognize. They say to him, are you

0:31:51.550 --> 0:31:54.070
<v S1>the only one in Jerusalem that doesn't know what happened?

0:31:54.110 --> 0:31:57.230
<v S2>Right, right. And he goes and he says to them, um,

0:31:57.270 --> 0:31:59.430
<v S2>what events are you talking about? You know, this is

0:31:59.430 --> 0:32:02.830
<v S2>one of these these times where on occasion, God asks

0:32:02.830 --> 0:32:07.070
<v S2>questions of people. Yeah. And and God knows what's going on.

0:32:07.070 --> 0:32:10.670
<v S2>Jesus knows what's happening, but it's to draw them out.

0:32:10.710 --> 0:32:13.470
<v S2>It's to include them in an opportunity to learn and

0:32:13.470 --> 0:32:17.210
<v S2>grow and make progress and develop and. And I love

0:32:17.250 --> 0:32:19.810
<v S2>the fact that he he sort of welcomes them to

0:32:19.850 --> 0:32:21.930
<v S2>be able to do that by sharing with him.

0:32:21.970 --> 0:32:24.530
<v S1>Yeah. And what I think is so interesting about it too,

0:32:24.570 --> 0:32:28.250
<v S1>is they are asking, are you ignorant? Right. You know,

0:32:28.290 --> 0:32:29.530
<v S1>but who is really ignorant?

0:32:29.570 --> 0:32:30.850
<v S2>Yeah. Well they were, they were.

0:32:30.890 --> 0:32:34.290
<v S1>Yeah. They're blinded to the whole thing. And then what

0:32:34.290 --> 0:32:39.570
<v S1>does he do? He immediately begins to teach them the scriptures. Yep. Uh,

0:32:39.890 --> 0:32:44.290
<v S1>and he says that beginning with, uh, he says to

0:32:44.330 --> 0:32:47.170
<v S1>them how unwise and slow of heart you are to

0:32:47.210 --> 0:32:50.090
<v S1>believe in your hearts. All the prophets have spoken. Didn't

0:32:50.130 --> 0:32:52.850
<v S1>the Messiah have to suffer these things and enter into

0:32:52.890 --> 0:32:56.010
<v S1>his glory? Then, beginning with Moses and all the prophets,

0:32:56.010 --> 0:33:00.650
<v S1>he interpreted them, uh, for them the things concerning himself

0:33:00.650 --> 0:33:05.450
<v S1>in all the scriptures. Now, I just think that is remarkable.

0:33:05.450 --> 0:33:08.010
<v S2>I would love to have been a mouse in the

0:33:08.010 --> 0:33:10.770
<v S2>corner on that talk. I mean, there is, Michael, you know,

0:33:10.770 --> 0:33:14.110
<v S2>there's so much discussion in scholarly circles about how the

0:33:14.110 --> 0:33:17.270
<v S2>New Testament writers use the Old Testament and and what

0:33:17.270 --> 0:33:20.030
<v S2>they're doing with all of that. And and I it

0:33:20.030 --> 0:33:23.310
<v S2>would have been so wonderful to have heard Jesus unpack

0:33:23.350 --> 0:33:28.270
<v S2>the Hebrew Scriptures as a proof of pointing toward him

0:33:28.270 --> 0:33:30.910
<v S2>in order to convince these two on the road to Emmaus.

0:33:30.950 --> 0:33:33.750
<v S1>Yeah. And it says that they said, were not our

0:33:33.750 --> 0:33:37.190
<v S1>hearts on fire as he explained the scriptures to us. Uh,

0:33:37.190 --> 0:33:41.310
<v S1>so it must have been a really powerful, powerful, uh,

0:33:41.310 --> 0:33:45.270
<v S1>Bible study. Uh, I think that's it's just remarkable that

0:33:45.270 --> 0:33:48.670
<v S1>they did that. And so, anyway, they have this meeting

0:33:49.430 --> 0:33:52.390
<v S1>with him on the road to Emmaus. I think that

0:33:52.390 --> 0:33:56.070
<v S1>is great. And I agree with you, the Lord Jesus.

0:33:56.110 --> 0:33:59.350
<v S1>This is something that A.T. Robertson once said. He said

0:33:59.350 --> 0:34:01.350
<v S1>the Lord Jesus seemed to be able to find himself

0:34:01.350 --> 0:34:05.190
<v S1>in the Hebrew Scriptures, something that contemporary scholars aren't able

0:34:05.190 --> 0:34:08.350
<v S1>to do. That's crazy right? I care about that so much.

0:34:08.350 --> 0:34:09.390
<v S1>I actually wrote a book about it.

0:34:09.430 --> 0:34:11.109
<v S2>I know, I know, which is a great book, by

0:34:11.110 --> 0:34:12.490
<v S2>the way. It's a great book.

0:34:12.530 --> 0:34:14.609
<v S1>But I care about it that the messianic hope was

0:34:14.610 --> 0:34:18.129
<v S1>really there in the Hebrew Bible. Right. Okay. So let's

0:34:18.130 --> 0:34:21.250
<v S1>move on, because we're going to run out of time. Right. Uh.

0:34:21.610 --> 0:34:22.569
<v S1>Next appearance.

0:34:22.850 --> 0:34:26.770
<v S2>Well, apparently, somehow, somewhere in here. Jesus then appeared to Peter.

0:34:26.810 --> 0:34:30.049
<v S2>First Corinthians 15 and verse five. Yeah. Talks about that.

0:34:30.050 --> 0:34:32.930
<v S2>He appeared to Cephas and then to the 12. And

0:34:32.930 --> 0:34:35.609
<v S2>then in Luke 2434 says, I think the same is

0:34:35.610 --> 0:34:38.410
<v S2>referring to the same thing. The Lord has really risen

0:34:38.410 --> 0:34:40.810
<v S2>and has appeared to Simon, that is, to Peter.

0:34:40.930 --> 0:34:42.770
<v S1>So it's mentioned that it happened, but we don't have

0:34:42.770 --> 0:34:43.569
<v S1>the narrative of it.

0:34:43.610 --> 0:34:45.650
<v S2>We don't have a narrative of it. And I'm wondering

0:34:45.650 --> 0:34:50.210
<v S2>if maybe this is where Jesus and Peter meet for

0:34:50.210 --> 0:34:54.570
<v S2>the very first time. For there maybe to be some reproof,

0:34:54.570 --> 0:34:55.930
<v S2>but restoration.

0:34:56.410 --> 0:34:56.890
<v S1>Mhm.

0:34:56.930 --> 0:34:57.570
<v S2>Hard to say.

0:34:57.610 --> 0:35:00.210
<v S1>Yeah. Maybe this is the reproof because later on it's

0:35:00.210 --> 0:35:01.330
<v S1>the restoration. Right.

0:35:01.489 --> 0:35:02.250
<v S2>That's. That's right.

0:35:02.290 --> 0:35:05.569
<v S1>Yeah. That's it. Uh, because Peter denied the Lord. Or

0:35:05.610 --> 0:35:07.850
<v S1>maybe it was just to show him. We don't know that.

0:35:08.010 --> 0:35:11.190
<v S1>That it was reproof. Uh, maybe it was just to

0:35:11.230 --> 0:35:13.790
<v S1>show him that he was raised right. But they didn't

0:35:13.790 --> 0:35:17.070
<v S1>interact long. But at least Peter now knows it's true.

0:35:17.190 --> 0:35:21.030
<v S1>And now, in Luke 24, it's almost as if it's

0:35:21.030 --> 0:35:23.950
<v S1>just going on right at the same level. Although there's

0:35:23.950 --> 0:35:27.509
<v S1>these other things that happened in between. Luke, he's not

0:35:27.550 --> 0:35:31.109
<v S1>caring about all that so much. And so we're going

0:35:31.150 --> 0:35:32.989
<v S1>to talk about the next one in just a moment.

0:35:33.870 --> 0:35:35.950
<v S1>We're going to talk about the Bible study in the

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<v S1>upper room with the disciples. You're listening to Open Line

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<v S1>with me, Michael Melnick, and my guest today, Michael Van Laningham.

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<v S1>We're talking about the resurrection appearances. Can't beat that. It's

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<v S1>most important thing in the Bible. We're going to be

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<v S1>right back in just a moment, so stay with us.

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<v S1>Jewish people will complete our annual Passover observance this weekend.

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<v S1>comprehending Passover will deepen our understanding of Yeshua, the Bread

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<v S1>back to Open Line with me. Doctor Michael Ray Melnick.

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<v S1>Joining me right now is my guest once again all our.

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<v S1>The other Michael Michael Van Laningham. And we're talking about

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<v S1>the resurrection. Let's talk more. What you have are a

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<v S1>couple of other appearances that follow. Right after the teachings

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<v S1>of the Cleopus and his friend on the road and

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<v S1>and those kinds of things, what happened next.

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<v S2>That that very night, Sunday night, Resurrection Sunday. Jesus appears

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<v S2>to the 11, but Thomas is not there.

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<v S1>So they're called the 11. But there's really only ten.

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<v S2>That's that's true. Yeah. At that point, there's Thomas is

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<v S2>not there. Um, but a one week later it says

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<v S2>in John 20, starting at verse 26, after eight days,

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<v S2>his disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Now

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<v S2>Thomas is there. Jesus came and said, peace be with you, Thomas.

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<v S2>You know, he says, Thomas, look, touch my hands. Put

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<v S2>your hand in my side. It's me. Thomas says, my

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<v S2>Lord and my God. Also in that in the in

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<v S2>the week before that, when Jesus appears, he actually eats.

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<v S2>He says, look, I'm not just like Casper the Friendly ghost,

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<v S2>you know? He says, you got food, give me food.

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<v S2>And he eats and you can't see the food going

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<v S2>down his gullet or anything like that. Um, and so

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<v S2>he really was raised. But so now Thomas season, he believes.

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<v S1>That's a great transformation because people call him Doubting Thomas.

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<v S1>But what does Thomas always say? Unless I see him,

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<v S1>unless I touch those wounds, I will not believe. He's unbelieving. Thomas, right?

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<v S1>And Thomas is transformed from unbelief to faith.

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<v S2>It's amazing.

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<v S1>Yeah. And, you know, once I had a there was

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<v S1>a couple in my congregation many, many years ago, she

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<v S1>came from a muslim background and her husband was a

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<v S1>committed believer. And she would come to services from time

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<v S1>to time and say, oh, I could never believe this,

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<v S1>because you believe that Jesus is God. Scott, and one

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<v S1>day she came with him. On a day when I

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<v S1>was speaking about unbelieving, Thomas turned to believing Thomas, and

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<v S1>at the end of it just she says, I know

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<v S1>he's alive. I'm ready. I believe. And that's how she

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<v S1>came to faith, not just as her Redeemer, but as

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<v S1>her her God. That she believed Jesus was God. It

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<v S1>was really cool. Uh, okay. The next encounter is at

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<v S1>the Sea of Tiberius. Or the lake. Lake Kinneret, Sea

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<v S1>of Galilee. And that's where he speaks with Peter.

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<v S2>Right there. Peter's out fishing. In fact, Peter just says,

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<v S2>I don't know if he's dejected or not, but he

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<v S2>says in John 2121 three, I'm going fishing. Yeah. You know,

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<v S2>who knows why he says that? And so they go.

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<v S1>Don't you think he was saying, you know what, I'm

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<v S1>not very good at being a disciple. I've denied the

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<v S1>Lord three times. I think I'll go back to what

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<v S1>I was also not good at, but maybe better at.

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<v S2>Yeah, I probably won't be all that good at being

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<v S2>a fisher of men. So I'm going to go fish

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<v S2>for fish. Yeah, exactly.

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<v S1>Yeah. And then so he meets Peter. And I think

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<v S1>that this is a remarkable encounter. And you're the Greek scholar.

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<v S1>And so three times the Lord Jesus asks Peter, do

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<v S1>you love me? And he uses the verb from agapao.

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<v S1>And three times Peter responds by saying with the word,

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<v S1>I love you phileo. So what's up?

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<v S2>Well, it's hard to say, actually. Michael. It could be

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<v S2>just a stylistic change. It could be that that, um,

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<v S2>that Peter is saying, you know, Lord, I don't have

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<v S2>the sort of agape love, the sort of deeper kind

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<v S2>of love that maybe I should have. But I do

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<v S2>have tremendous affection for you. I have the fill for you.

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<v S1>Don't you think by that time it was in the

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<v S1>Koine Greek, it was pretty much they were synonymous.

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<v S2>I think they were actually, I really do. So it's

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<v S2>very hard to say. But at the very least, one

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<v S2>thing that's interesting is that when Jesus comes and he

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<v S2>appears to them in verse nine, it says, so when

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<v S2>they got out on the land, they saw a charcoal

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<v S2>fire already laid and fish placed on it, and bread.

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<v S2>The only other place in any of the Gospels where

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<v S2>it mentions a charcoal fire. Fire is in John chapter 18,

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<v S2>where that happens in the courtyard of the high priest.

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<v S2>And Peter is there, and on that occasion he denies

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<v S2>Jesus three times. So now we have another charcoal fire.

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<v S2>But Jesus, I think, emphasizes and reminds Peter. Peter does

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<v S2>love Jesus. And Jesus's job for Peter in being restored

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<v S2>is to take care of his lambs.

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<v S1>Yeah. Feed my sheep. So really, what he's doing is

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<v S1>once again transforming Peter through the resurrection from a failure

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<v S1>to a shepherd to a faithful servant. And I think

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<v S1>that that's remarkable, because now he gives him three times

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<v S1>to affirm his love for him after his three denials. Okay.

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<v S1>Next very important appearance is on a mountaintop in Galilee.

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<v S1>And what happens there? The great commission.

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<v S2>Great commission. All authority has been given to me in

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<v S2>heaven and on earth. Go therefore, and make disciples of

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<v S2>all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the father, son,

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<v S2>and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that

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<v S2>I have commanded you. And lo, I am with you always,

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<v S2>even to the end of the age. Very, very important text.

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<v S2>Important episode here.

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<v S1>So they were told right from the beginning. Go tell

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<v S1>them the Lord is risen. Go tell. Now the disciples

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<v S1>are told. Go tell the whole world about this. And

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<v S1>you know, some people say, well, that doesn't really apply

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<v S1>to us. That's to the 12. What I always look

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<v S1>at is he says, I am with you even to

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<v S1>the end of the age.

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<v S2>Right?

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<v S1>That means it's not just them.

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<v S2>No it's not. It's. We're to be like them.

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<v S1>Yeah. Uh, to the end of the age, we're supposed

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<v S1>to be proclaiming that good news. Uh, of Jesus being

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<v S1>dying for us and being raised again. And that's what's

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<v S1>going to transform people. Uh, now Jesus appears to 500 brethren.

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<v S1>Where does that happen?

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<v S2>Well, best guess is that that happens also in Galilee.

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<v S2>Hard to say for sure, but we get a hint

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<v S2>of that in Luke 24, verses 44 to 49. He

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<v S2>reminds them of the kinds of things that he has

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<v S2>taught them. And then in first Corinthians 15 six it says,

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<v S2>after that he appeared to more than 500 brethren at

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<v S2>one time, most of whom remain until now, but some

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<v S2>have fallen asleep. I think probably the best idea is

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<v S2>that that's in Galilee.

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<v S1>Yeah, and that's what sometime after that, he appears to James, right?

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<v S1>That's his brother Jacob, actually. Don't you think? Yep. Uh,

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<v S1>English says James. But yeah. Jacobus. In the Greek it is. Uh.

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<v S1>And then to all the apostles. Do you think that is.

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<v S1>I mean, they obviously have met as a group before,

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<v S1>but maybe individually with the apostles. What do you think?

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<v S2>Um, again, could be very hard to say. I think

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<v S2>it I think it could be just another meeting with

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<v S2>all the apostles to somewhere, probably in Galilee.

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<v S1>And because it says in acts one that he was

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<v S1>with them for 40 days teaching them all about the

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<v S1>kingdom of God.

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<v S2>He was with them all kinds of times.

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<v S1>Yeah. So now the thing about the 500 brethren, some

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<v S1>people have said this is just an hallucination. When people

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<v S1>think they saw someone that they've feared dying. Is there

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<v S1>such a thing as a 500 person hallucination?

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<v S2>I think that's very unlikely. I you know, I think, um, um,

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<v S2>not only is it unlikely, I don't impossible. It's impossible.

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<v S2>I don't believe that that happened. The Bible doesn't say

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<v S2>that it happened. They saw him.

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<v S1>Yeah, but when you have 500 people to see something,

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<v S1>it's amazing.

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<v S2>You know, if somebody's super deep in grief, maybe they're

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<v S2>going to be so emotionally distraught. They might see something

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<v S2>and see their loved one or whatever. But that's not

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<v S2>that's not going to happen with that many people who

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<v S2>are level headed and who have been followers of Jesus,

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<v S2>and they are probably not going to be prone to

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<v S2>such sort of, um, difficulty mental, emotional.

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<v S1>So we've got the 500. We've got James, and then

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<v S1>we've got the last resurrection appearance recorded is really, uh,

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<v S1>Before his ascension. Is that would you say. Aha.

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<v S2>Yeah. And acts one six through 11 they say, Jesus,

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<v S2>are you going to restore the kingdom now to Israel?

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<v S2>And he says not. You don't need to know the timing,

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<v S2>but which.

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<v S1>By the way, means he will restore the kingdom.

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<v S2>He will.

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<v S1>Oh, yeah. Just not.

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<v S2>Now. He's going to do that. Yeah. And then he says,

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<v S2>you're going to be my witnesses in Jerusalem, Judea, even

0:45:18.690 --> 0:45:20.730
<v S2>to the remotest parts of the earth. And then he

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<v S2>ascends from there into heaven, and they watch him go,

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<v S2>and two angels show up and say the same way

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<v S2>he left. He is coming back. It'll be physical. It'll

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<v S2>be to this spot. There will be a literal, physical

0:45:34.330 --> 0:45:37.890
<v S2>second coming, not just a spiritual second coming, like some

0:45:37.890 --> 0:45:38.529
<v S2>people say.

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<v S1>Just like first Corinthians. Uh, first Corinthians, Zechariah 14 says

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<v S1>his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives. Olives, right? Yeah.

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<v S1>It's going to be just exactly, literally.

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<v S2>Literally.

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<v S1>To.

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<v S2>That.

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<v S1>Spot. Yeah. So some people say, well, he comes to

0:45:52.050 --> 0:45:53.770
<v S1>us sort of spiritually in our hearts.

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<v S2>And he does.

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<v S1>He does. But that's not enough.

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<v S2>That's not.

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<v S1>Enough. We have to be looking for his appearance more.

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<v S1>That's the blessed hope. Thank you for joining me. This

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<v S1>is a great quick Bible study. I appreciate it so much.

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