1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,080 S1: I have a question for you today at the Radio 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,880 S1: Backyard fence. A question from the heart to the heart 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,960 S1: for the heart. And your answer today might be just 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,560 S1: the things someone else needs to hear. It's about the 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:22,080 S1: power of God to transform, to change us from the 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,600 S1: inside out. And I need your help. You are my 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,560 S1: guest today as we present our Tuesday last Day of 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,600 S1: June edition of Chris Fabry Live. Let's get started with 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,479 S1: a thank you to our team, Ryan Mcconahay doing all 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,120 S1: things technical. Trish is our producer. Lisa's helping out. Josh 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,800 S1: will be answering your calls online. Chris Fabry live. All right, 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,800 S1: our number down. This may be the day I get 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,120 S1: you to call me. Even those who have said I'm 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,400 S1: never going to call one of those types of programs, 15 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,280 S1: this topic might be the one that tips the scale 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,560 S1: because you have experienced some kind of inner change. Here's 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:05,040 S1: the number 775483675. As you may have heard, we are 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,200 S1: giving anyone who supports us this month a thank you 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,160 S1: that honors the life and legacy of Doctor John Perkins. 20 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,920 S1: And earlier this month, one of our guests was late. Uh, 21 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,560 S1: didn't tell you this on the air, but we were 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,440 S1: getting really close, really close to air time. And, uh, 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,839 S1: it doesn't happen real often, but on that day, I thought, well, 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,120 S1: if we don't, don't get our guests, what are we 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,919 S1: going to talk about? And because I didn't feel confident 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,800 S1: that I could go with the topic at hand and 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,080 S1: go with that, what, what, what question do I throw out? 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,959 S1: What do we talk about here? Uh, topic of substance 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,080 S1: that I put in as a substitute. And in those moments, 30 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,280 S1: you can either panic or take a breath and tell yourself, 31 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,320 S1: calm down. It's going to be it's going to be okay. 32 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,800 S1: You know, uh, you don't know what's going to happen, 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,720 S1: but it's going to be good. And I did, I 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,760 S1: calmed down and I was looking at the book by 35 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,440 S1: Doctor Perkins that we're giving away. Today's the last day. 36 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,760 S1: And I saw this section that I had highlighted and 37 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,840 S1: I found the topic. I found it and it was 38 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,720 S1: it took like 15 seconds. Like, well, there it is. 39 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,200 S1: That's what we need to talk about. And I got 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,160 S1: kind of excited because I thought, okay, we could do 41 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,000 S1: this and we could go this way. This is going 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,400 S1: to be really good. And then about 30s 30s before 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,680 S1: the top of the hour when we start, uh, the 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,519 S1: guest signed in. And so we start the program, we 45 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,480 S1: as as planned. And in the first break, I said, 46 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,200 S1: you know, when you weren't here within 30s, I was 47 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,760 S1: thinking about doing this topic and I described what I'm 48 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,400 S1: going to do here with you today. And the guest said, well, 49 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,000 S1: that sounds better than what I'm going to talk about. 50 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,440 S1: I said, no, no, you're good. We're going to we're 51 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,600 S1: going to continue with this. But I, I squirreled that 52 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,119 S1: idea away and I want to do it today here 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,720 S1: on the last day of June. So here's what I 54 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,480 S1: want to know. What change have you seen in your 55 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:02,919 S1: life that you attribute to God at work transforming you 56 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,320 S1: from the inside out? It could be a small change. 57 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,239 S1: It could be a big change that you have seen. 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,720 S1: If you did, for example, you got in the Wayback Machine, 59 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,560 S1: you went back five years or ten years and you 60 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,320 S1: did an A B comparison with your life today and 61 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:24,080 S1: your life back then. What is different about you that 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,560 S1: you believe that God has done, obviously with your cooperation 63 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,519 S1: as well? You know, you're part of the equation here, 64 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,360 S1: but you attribute that to God has changed me right here. 65 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:43,920 S1: Put your finger on that and call me (877) 548-3675. And 66 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,360 S1: this might be something that just because I'm asking the question, 67 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,320 S1: it dawns on you and you say, oh, that's I'm 68 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,920 S1: different in this way. And this will cause you to 69 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,410 S1: give gratitude. number one and number two. It might help 70 00:03:58,410 --> 00:04:01,330 S1: somebody else who's listening, who's dealing with what you're dealing. 71 00:04:01,370 --> 00:04:04,050 S1: You used to be dealing with. And we all deal 72 00:04:04,090 --> 00:04:08,610 S1: in on some level with, well, for example, anger. Did 73 00:04:08,610 --> 00:04:11,730 S1: you used to be a really angry person? You'd fly 74 00:04:11,730 --> 00:04:14,410 S1: off the handle at the littlest thing, and God has 75 00:04:14,410 --> 00:04:19,610 S1: done something on the inside and you are less agitated today. 76 00:04:20,290 --> 00:04:22,850 S1: I think of a Darryl Strawberry every now and then. 77 00:04:22,850 --> 00:04:25,650 S1: I see these clips of him in his days playing 78 00:04:25,650 --> 00:04:28,610 S1: for the New York Mets. And it doesn't. It doesn't 79 00:04:28,610 --> 00:04:30,650 S1: matter if he was the one who was up to 80 00:04:30,690 --> 00:04:33,530 S1: bat and the opposing pitcher threw at him and hit him, 81 00:04:34,050 --> 00:04:36,890 S1: or if he was in the dugout, you know, drinking Gatorade, 82 00:04:36,890 --> 00:04:38,570 S1: if there was a fight, he was in the middle 83 00:04:38,570 --> 00:04:42,289 S1: of it and he was swinging and punching and wrestling 84 00:04:42,650 --> 00:04:47,730 S1: other players holding him back. And Darryl Strawberry is not 85 00:04:47,730 --> 00:04:52,450 S1: that way anymore because God grabbed hold of his heart. 86 00:04:52,450 --> 00:04:55,210 S1: God did something on the inside. Has he done that 87 00:04:55,210 --> 00:04:59,650 S1: for you? How about this? Has God worked on you 88 00:04:59,690 --> 00:05:05,210 S1: with forgiveness? Did you have bitterness and resentment inside about 89 00:05:05,210 --> 00:05:12,250 S1: someone or some situation, some entity? And you realize I 90 00:05:12,370 --> 00:05:17,890 S1: don't have that anymore? Or the forgiveness could be about 91 00:05:17,890 --> 00:05:22,690 S1: something that you did long ago, and you've been hanging 92 00:05:22,690 --> 00:05:27,609 S1: on to that against yourself and you realize, wait a minute, 93 00:05:28,089 --> 00:05:31,170 S1: if God forgave me of that, I have no right 94 00:05:31,170 --> 00:05:34,490 S1: to hang on to it. If he if he forgives 95 00:05:34,490 --> 00:05:37,690 S1: and he means it, I'm going to believe him and 96 00:05:37,690 --> 00:05:40,050 S1: I'm going to trust him. So I don't have to 97 00:05:40,089 --> 00:05:43,970 S1: hang on to that unforgiveness in my own life. I'm 98 00:05:43,970 --> 00:05:47,890 S1: going to believe what he says. And the corollary with 99 00:05:47,890 --> 00:05:50,250 S1: that one is, oh, man, see, I told you it 100 00:05:50,250 --> 00:05:52,570 S1: was going to be good. You have worked really hard 101 00:05:52,690 --> 00:05:54,890 S1: at toeing the line. Have you? You've tried to please 102 00:05:54,890 --> 00:05:57,050 S1: God and you go to church and you read your 103 00:05:57,050 --> 00:06:00,570 S1: Bible X amount of times and you, you, you perform. 104 00:06:00,570 --> 00:06:02,810 S1: You do the right thing and you make. And you're 105 00:06:02,930 --> 00:06:05,290 S1: you never lie on your taxes. ET cetera. ET cetera. 106 00:06:05,290 --> 00:06:10,610 S1: ET cetera. And if you mess up, you. If you don't, 107 00:06:10,650 --> 00:06:12,770 S1: if you if you toe the line, you feel okay. 108 00:06:13,250 --> 00:06:15,570 S1: But if you don't, if you mess up in some way, 109 00:06:16,050 --> 00:06:20,810 S1: you're not loved anymore. Has God impressed his grace upon 110 00:06:20,810 --> 00:06:22,810 S1: you in such a way that you are not trying 111 00:06:22,810 --> 00:06:26,770 S1: to earn your way to his favor to earn your 112 00:06:26,770 --> 00:06:32,890 S1: salvation any longer? That is a huge leap, a huge 113 00:06:32,890 --> 00:06:36,010 S1: work of God on the inside. And I would say 114 00:06:36,010 --> 00:06:39,050 S1: that is a radical work he loves to do if 115 00:06:39,050 --> 00:06:42,010 S1: we will allow him to do it. So here's a 116 00:06:42,010 --> 00:06:47,170 S1: question again. What change have you seen inside? Big or small, 117 00:06:47,170 --> 00:06:55,810 S1: that you attribute to God at work transforming you? (877) 548-3675. 118 00:06:55,850 --> 00:06:59,289 S1: Or here's my Or question. Have you seen a change 119 00:06:59,290 --> 00:07:04,050 S1: in somebody else that can only be attributed to God 120 00:07:04,050 --> 00:07:07,089 S1: at work in them a spouse, a parent, a child, 121 00:07:07,089 --> 00:07:12,370 S1: a friend, a coworker? What change did you observe in them? 122 00:07:12,930 --> 00:07:15,330 S1: And as I said, there might be somebody listening right 123 00:07:15,330 --> 00:07:19,290 S1: now with some kind of, I don't know, addiction, something 124 00:07:19,410 --> 00:07:21,610 S1: their spouse or a child or a friend has said, hey, 125 00:07:21,610 --> 00:07:24,930 S1: you need to work on that. Your story might give 126 00:07:24,930 --> 00:07:28,570 S1: a little hope that God can do something inside them 127 00:07:29,130 --> 00:07:33,050 S1: that he has done in you. So what's your story? 128 00:07:33,890 --> 00:07:37,530 S1: Or what's the change you've seen in your life or 129 00:07:37,530 --> 00:07:44,410 S1: in somebody else? (877) 548-3675. We're getting ready to celebrate 100 130 00:07:44,410 --> 00:07:47,890 S1: years of Moody Radio. And there was a sign in 131 00:07:47,890 --> 00:07:50,890 S1: old studio B every time I walked in, it was 132 00:07:50,890 --> 00:07:53,090 S1: hanging up on the wall and it had been there 133 00:07:53,090 --> 00:07:56,450 S1: in some form or fashion since the 1920s and 30s 134 00:07:56,450 --> 00:07:59,450 S1: and it said this. Your song may be used to 135 00:07:59,490 --> 00:08:03,650 S1: save a soul. Sing it prayerfully. And I say that 136 00:08:03,650 --> 00:08:07,770 S1: to you today because you have the opportunity to talk 137 00:08:07,770 --> 00:08:11,930 S1: about the change you have experienced and the story you 138 00:08:11,930 --> 00:08:17,170 S1: tell about that change may be used to encourage someone 139 00:08:17,170 --> 00:08:20,730 S1: else to take their next step as they follow Jesus. 140 00:08:21,290 --> 00:08:26,690 S1: So let me hear from you. (877) 548-3675. And at some 141 00:08:26,690 --> 00:08:28,770 S1: point in this hour, I'm going to read you what 142 00:08:28,770 --> 00:08:32,770 S1: I read in Doctor Perkins book one Blood. That made 143 00:08:32,770 --> 00:08:35,930 S1: me want to present this to you today. It's from 144 00:08:35,929 --> 00:08:37,850 S1: the life of Doctor John Perkins. I want you to 145 00:08:37,850 --> 00:08:39,930 S1: hear his voice, too. We're going to do that here 146 00:08:40,210 --> 00:08:44,130 S1: on the last day of June, which is his birthday month. 147 00:08:44,170 --> 00:08:47,170 S1: I got a call from his granddaughter who said, happy birthday, 148 00:08:47,210 --> 00:08:51,210 S1: Grandpa Perkins. I have a few examples from my own life. 149 00:08:51,330 --> 00:08:53,930 S1: Something happened just the other day. I'll tell you about that. 150 00:08:53,929 --> 00:09:07,690 S1: But I want to hear from you. (877) 548-3675. Somebody needs 151 00:09:07,690 --> 00:09:09,850 S1: to hear your story of the change that God has 152 00:09:09,850 --> 00:09:14,329 S1: made in your life. And your change is a chance 153 00:09:14,330 --> 00:09:17,970 S1: to help them change. Or maybe just to believe, maybe 154 00:09:18,010 --> 00:09:20,610 S1: life can be different. How are you going to help 155 00:09:20,610 --> 00:09:27,410 S1: change that? Be honest about the change that's happened to you. (877) 548-3675. 156 00:09:27,650 --> 00:09:29,850 S1: There's a lot of change that's going on with the fog. 157 00:09:29,850 --> 00:09:32,609 S1: Can tell is that I love programs like this because 158 00:09:32,929 --> 00:09:35,569 S1: you just get to tell your story. You just get to, 159 00:09:35,809 --> 00:09:38,170 S1: to brag on God because this is not about, you know, 160 00:09:38,210 --> 00:09:40,370 S1: I did this and I did that and look how 161 00:09:40,370 --> 00:09:43,810 S1: great I know. Look how great God is to take 162 00:09:43,809 --> 00:09:47,810 S1: us sinners and make us holy and make us righteous 163 00:09:47,809 --> 00:09:51,090 S1: because of what he's done, but what he accomplished. We 164 00:09:51,090 --> 00:09:54,530 S1: start with Victoria, who's in Illinois. Victoria, why did you 165 00:09:54,570 --> 00:09:55,170 S1: call today? 166 00:09:56,410 --> 00:10:00,449 S2: Hi. Um, yes, I called today because I was a 167 00:10:00,450 --> 00:10:04,890 S2: drug addict. Um, from the age of 13 to my 20s. Um, 168 00:10:05,010 --> 00:10:07,130 S2: I was hanging out with the wrong people. I was 169 00:10:07,130 --> 00:10:10,170 S2: raised in a Christian home, but as a stubborn teen, 170 00:10:10,170 --> 00:10:13,010 S2: I walked away from God. Um, but he never walked 171 00:10:13,010 --> 00:10:16,330 S2: away from me. He found me, called me back to him. 172 00:10:16,330 --> 00:10:20,689 S2: I've been five years sober. No alcohol, no smoking, no drugs. 173 00:10:20,690 --> 00:10:23,970 S2: And since I changed my life over, my boyfriend did too. 174 00:10:24,010 --> 00:10:26,050 S2: We're now married. We go to church 2 to 3 175 00:10:26,050 --> 00:10:29,250 S2: times a week, have a home, our own business. Um, 176 00:10:29,250 --> 00:10:30,810 S2: and we're just thriving with God. 177 00:10:31,290 --> 00:10:35,929 S1: Wow, that that is a huge change. Victoria. If you 178 00:10:35,929 --> 00:10:38,929 S1: go back, let's say you went 5 or 6 years back, 179 00:10:39,370 --> 00:10:43,930 S1: your life would be radically different than you. You are today, right? 180 00:10:44,730 --> 00:10:48,690 S2: Oh, 100%. I told people that I thought I would have. 181 00:10:48,690 --> 00:10:51,730 S2: I would have been dead. Honestly, I, I thought God 182 00:10:51,730 --> 00:10:55,290 S2: wanted someone perfect. And, um, but he doesn't, he just 183 00:10:55,330 --> 00:10:57,370 S2: he leaves the 99 to find the one. And he 184 00:10:57,370 --> 00:10:59,610 S2: wanted me and he wants everyone listening to. 185 00:11:00,570 --> 00:11:03,490 S1: Was there somebody that was praying for you all during 186 00:11:03,490 --> 00:11:04,130 S1: that time? 187 00:11:05,610 --> 00:11:09,530 S2: Oh yeah. Of course, my mom, um, she's my, we, 188 00:11:09,570 --> 00:11:12,770 S2: we didn't have a great relationship. And now we're best friends. 189 00:11:12,770 --> 00:11:16,010 S2: And she's the greatest woman ever. Wow. 190 00:11:17,130 --> 00:11:19,929 S1: See, now that I said, you know, your story of 191 00:11:19,929 --> 00:11:22,569 S1: change is going to help somebody else. There's a parent 192 00:11:22,570 --> 00:11:26,569 S1: listening right now who is in the middle of you 193 00:11:26,610 --> 00:11:30,450 S1: at three or 4 or 5 years into that addiction. Yeah. 194 00:11:30,610 --> 00:11:34,290 S1: And they, they want they pray and they beg God 195 00:11:34,290 --> 00:11:37,730 S1: and they and they've almost given up hope. What do 196 00:11:37,730 --> 00:11:39,010 S1: you say to that parent? 197 00:11:40,050 --> 00:11:43,050 S2: Don't give up hope. God doesn't give up hope on us. 198 00:11:43,050 --> 00:11:46,220 S2: And we're his children. And I don't think anyone should 199 00:11:46,220 --> 00:11:48,580 S2: ever give hope up on another person. You know, you 200 00:11:48,620 --> 00:11:52,060 S2: keep praying. You keep looking to God every day. Um, 201 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:54,660 S2: and you might not get the answer you want right away. 202 00:11:54,660 --> 00:11:58,020 S2: I know I didn't. Um, but he's listening to you 203 00:11:58,020 --> 00:12:00,860 S2: and he will provide and you have to ask and 204 00:12:00,860 --> 00:12:04,220 S2: knock and seek and he'll, he'll do all the things 205 00:12:04,220 --> 00:12:05,460 S2: you never thought possible. 206 00:12:06,380 --> 00:12:08,740 S1: Victoria, I can't wait till you call in here and say, 207 00:12:08,740 --> 00:12:11,900 S1: my husband and I are having a baby and we're 208 00:12:11,900 --> 00:12:15,059 S1: having our second baby or third or whatever that is. 209 00:12:15,059 --> 00:12:18,260 S1: I can't wait, because you're going to be a great mom. 210 00:12:18,260 --> 00:12:19,220 S1: I can just tell. 211 00:12:19,980 --> 00:12:22,980 S2: Oh, that's so sweet. You know, people always ask when, 212 00:12:22,980 --> 00:12:26,220 S2: when we're going to, but, um, we we pray over 213 00:12:26,220 --> 00:12:27,900 S2: our future kid every day. 214 00:12:28,340 --> 00:12:31,900 S1: Ah, that is fantastic. Victoria, you just made my day. 215 00:12:31,900 --> 00:12:34,300 S1: Thank you for picking up the phone. God bless you, friend. 216 00:12:34,860 --> 00:12:37,020 S2: Oh, of course, thank you. God bless you too. 217 00:12:37,420 --> 00:12:40,579 S1: There she is. There is a person who has been 218 00:12:40,580 --> 00:12:44,980 S1: grabbed hold of the radical love of God. And do 219 00:12:44,980 --> 00:12:49,380 S1: you hear the freedom there? The addiction, the chains. This 220 00:12:49,380 --> 00:12:51,339 S1: is the way life is always going to be. I'll 221 00:12:51,340 --> 00:12:53,620 S1: never get out of that. We talked with Alan Parker 222 00:12:54,100 --> 00:12:57,739 S1: last week about that. That's a lie. That's not true. 223 00:12:58,100 --> 00:13:00,300 S1: And if you're in some kind of addiction and you're 224 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:02,740 S1: in some kind of chains, you may say, well, good 225 00:13:02,740 --> 00:13:05,100 S1: for Victoria. I'm glad it worked out for her. Glad 226 00:13:05,100 --> 00:13:08,220 S1: she had people praying for her. Glad she's gone to church. 227 00:13:08,220 --> 00:13:10,420 S1: She's married, you know, she's got her life together. That's 228 00:13:10,420 --> 00:13:13,220 S1: never going to happen to me. Don't you believe that? 229 00:13:13,780 --> 00:13:17,819 S1: And don't you, as the person who's praying for your Victoria, 230 00:13:17,820 --> 00:13:22,860 S1: don't you believe? No, that can't happen. Because we're talking 231 00:13:22,860 --> 00:13:27,300 S1: about the power of God. Um. Matthews in Ohio. Matthew, 232 00:13:27,340 --> 00:13:28,540 S1: why did you call today? 233 00:13:29,540 --> 00:13:33,179 S3: Oh, yes. I was calling, you know, listening to the 234 00:13:33,179 --> 00:13:36,420 S3: previous caller. You know, my life, my life. Turned out 235 00:13:36,420 --> 00:13:38,939 S3: I was a drug addict, same as her. And, uh, 236 00:13:38,980 --> 00:13:43,340 S3: God has faithfully restored me back to a relationship with 237 00:13:43,340 --> 00:13:45,860 S3: him through a lot of years, a lot of mentors. 238 00:13:45,900 --> 00:13:48,900 S3: And now I am married and I do have children, 239 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:53,420 S3: and God is opening doors that I have never seen before. 240 00:13:53,460 --> 00:13:56,420 S3: A marriage that I almost walked out on, uh, because 241 00:13:56,460 --> 00:13:59,180 S3: of understanding, you know, she's been through a past and 242 00:13:59,179 --> 00:14:02,540 S3: so have I. And it's something that was scary, but 243 00:14:02,540 --> 00:14:04,939 S3: I knew that God had called me to. And, you know, 244 00:14:04,980 --> 00:14:08,140 S3: I just over the last two years have really tried 245 00:14:08,140 --> 00:14:11,620 S3: to understand what it means to be a man of 246 00:14:11,620 --> 00:14:14,740 S3: God in a world that we live in. And so 247 00:14:14,780 --> 00:14:18,500 S3: it's definitely challenging for her and I, but, uh, you know, 248 00:14:18,540 --> 00:14:22,180 S3: through some research and, you know, the moody radio and 249 00:14:22,180 --> 00:14:24,540 S3: all the things you guys do is just really opened 250 00:14:24,540 --> 00:14:26,060 S3: some eyes and hearing things. 251 00:14:27,420 --> 00:14:29,820 S1: So it sounds like the change that's happened, you know, 252 00:14:29,860 --> 00:14:33,420 S1: other than the addiction and that's I'm not spiking that, 253 00:14:33,740 --> 00:14:38,300 S1: but the thing that you really are experiencing now is, um, 254 00:14:38,540 --> 00:14:43,220 S1: what does it mean to be committed to your wife 255 00:14:43,220 --> 00:14:46,380 S1: and that relationship? Even if it gets hard and it 256 00:14:46,380 --> 00:14:49,340 S1: gets messy and you know, you just you just want 257 00:14:49,380 --> 00:14:51,780 S1: to walk away. What does it mean to be a 258 00:14:51,780 --> 00:14:56,380 S1: man who stays in there, who perseveres? Right? 259 00:14:56,860 --> 00:14:57,460 S3: Yes. 260 00:14:59,940 --> 00:15:03,140 S1: And God is the one who's given you that vision 261 00:15:03,300 --> 00:15:04,740 S1: to do that, right? 262 00:15:05,180 --> 00:15:11,460 S3: Yes. Yeah. It takes a lot of patience, uh, understanding, wisdom. Um, 263 00:15:11,780 --> 00:15:14,700 S3: I think wisdom and understanding are probably the most things 264 00:15:14,700 --> 00:15:18,060 S3: that have come to my life through addiction, through any addiction. 265 00:15:18,100 --> 00:15:21,700 S3: You know, I mean, not just through drugs, but, you know, 266 00:15:21,740 --> 00:15:24,100 S3: you know, women and things like that. It's not easy. 267 00:15:24,100 --> 00:15:28,460 S3: But with God's grace and mercy, uh, with understanding, I think, 268 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:31,700 S3: like I said, praying for wisdom and understanding is probably 269 00:15:31,700 --> 00:15:32,980 S3: the key. Yeah. 270 00:15:33,340 --> 00:15:41,380 S1: I'm glad you called, Matthew. Somebody needed to hear that today. Eight. Seven. (877) 548-3675. 271 00:15:41,420 --> 00:15:44,780 S1: I've got a story of of a man who hated 272 00:15:44,780 --> 00:15:51,580 S1: people who who just loathed them for good reason. And 273 00:15:51,580 --> 00:15:55,460 S1: God did something inside of his heart that changed, that 274 00:15:55,460 --> 00:16:02,300 S1: turned him 180 degrees around and moved him toward them. 275 00:16:02,300 --> 00:16:06,060 S1: I want you to hear that. But here's Anthony in Illinois. Anthony, 276 00:16:06,100 --> 00:16:07,180 S1: why'd you call today? 277 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:13,140 S4: Oh, I called to say that God is really changing. 278 00:16:13,460 --> 00:16:18,500 S4: Working on me. Uh, went through a divorce. It's been 279 00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:22,820 S4: seven years. Uh, was not a pretty divorce, and I 280 00:16:22,820 --> 00:16:34,780 S4: was pretty angry and bitter. And also having addiction. Now. 281 00:16:34,820 --> 00:16:36,980 S1: Okay, Anthony. Anthony, let me jump in here because I'm. 282 00:16:37,060 --> 00:16:40,020 S1: I'm hearing a little I'm not hearing all of your 283 00:16:40,060 --> 00:16:44,620 S1: sentences there. The cell coverage or whatever, but I caught 284 00:16:44,620 --> 00:16:47,980 S1: the words. It wasn't a pretty divorce. And I'll tell 285 00:16:47,980 --> 00:16:50,980 S1: you this, I've never seen one. I've never seen a, 286 00:16:51,020 --> 00:16:54,260 S1: you know, a smooth divorce that was pretty. It's like, no, 287 00:16:54,260 --> 00:16:57,420 S1: this is this rips no one. No matter what happens, 288 00:16:57,420 --> 00:17:01,420 S1: it rips your heart out. And, uh, so, so go 289 00:17:01,420 --> 00:17:04,100 S1: on from there. The change that you've seen. Tell me 290 00:17:04,100 --> 00:17:04,660 S1: about it. 291 00:17:08,220 --> 00:17:16,219 S4: My. Firm I. Had any contact with either of them? 292 00:17:16,220 --> 00:17:19,460 S4: All of them. And like you said, it just rips 293 00:17:19,460 --> 00:17:22,820 S4: your heart out. Um, the saying that time heals all 294 00:17:22,820 --> 00:17:24,020 S4: wounds doesn't really. 295 00:17:29,900 --> 00:17:30,340 S5: First. 296 00:17:32,340 --> 00:17:36,179 S1: Okay, I'm catching like, every fourth word there. And the 297 00:17:36,180 --> 00:17:38,260 S1: folks that are listening at home. I want to hear 298 00:17:38,260 --> 00:17:40,460 S1: your heart, Anthony. So I'm going to put you on hold. 299 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:45,020 S1: But the the note that I see under this, you know, 300 00:17:45,060 --> 00:17:51,340 S1: this heart ripping out experience, he said, the anger and 301 00:17:51,340 --> 00:17:56,700 S1: the bitterness. I don't have the same level of that. 302 00:17:57,220 --> 00:18:00,580 S1: And maybe God has taken most of that away. And 303 00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:04,139 S1: I think he might have children as well. So let 304 00:18:04,140 --> 00:18:07,420 S1: me put you on hold and is on the line 305 00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:10,340 S1: and we're talking about change. Have you seen change that 306 00:18:10,340 --> 00:18:11,780 S1: God has done in your life? 307 00:18:13,020 --> 00:18:16,420 S6: Yes, I have, I have let go of that unforgiving 308 00:18:16,420 --> 00:18:18,940 S6: spirit that I had toward my son. Even though I 309 00:18:18,980 --> 00:18:22,619 S6: love him, care about him. There's nothing I wouldn't do 310 00:18:22,619 --> 00:18:25,459 S6: for him. But I would still be angry because I 311 00:18:25,460 --> 00:18:28,220 S6: would not get a card from Mother's Day or the 312 00:18:28,220 --> 00:18:30,820 S6: Christmas or things, because I have always sent him all 313 00:18:30,820 --> 00:18:33,740 S6: kinds of gifts. But a situation came up a couple 314 00:18:33,780 --> 00:18:36,699 S6: of weeks ago and he needed some money. He called me. 315 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:39,580 S6: I was on my way to my post and, uh, 316 00:18:39,619 --> 00:18:42,180 S6: went to Walgreens. They sent a link where I sent 317 00:18:42,180 --> 00:18:46,340 S6: the money. And when after he got the item, he said, mom, 318 00:18:47,580 --> 00:18:49,300 S6: I don't know what I would do without you. And 319 00:18:49,300 --> 00:18:52,580 S6: when he said that, it took all the pain away, 320 00:18:52,580 --> 00:18:55,740 S6: all that unforgiving spirit I had had all these years, 321 00:18:56,580 --> 00:18:59,980 S6: I just let it go. I felt so touched, just 322 00:18:59,980 --> 00:19:02,740 S6: like I feel touched now. He said, mom, what would 323 00:19:02,740 --> 00:19:05,340 S6: I do without you? I said, well, that's what mommies do. 324 00:19:08,700 --> 00:19:15,420 S1: Absolutely. And so you. And of course, there's a, there's a, the, uh, 325 00:19:15,660 --> 00:19:18,220 S1: the left side of my brain says, you can't do 326 00:19:18,220 --> 00:19:21,500 S1: that the rest of his life. And. ET cetera. ET cetera. 327 00:19:21,740 --> 00:19:26,540 S1: But what you're saying is you felt the spirit say, no, 328 00:19:26,660 --> 00:19:31,540 S1: reach out. Do this for him. Don't lean on, you know, 329 00:19:31,580 --> 00:19:35,750 S1: everything that's happened in the past. Do this now. And 330 00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:38,550 S1: you feel like in a lot of ways, that relationship 331 00:19:38,550 --> 00:19:40,590 S1: is beginning to turn around, right? 332 00:19:41,150 --> 00:19:46,070 S6: Yes. And, you know, I have never turned him down. 333 00:19:46,070 --> 00:19:48,870 S6: And something had happened a maybe a month ago. And 334 00:19:48,869 --> 00:19:51,189 S6: I said, I wonder why what would have happened if 335 00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:53,710 S6: you didn't do that? But I went on and did 336 00:19:53,710 --> 00:19:57,270 S6: it anyway. It's always a monetary issue, but this time 337 00:19:57,270 --> 00:20:00,909 S6: it was health related. But when he said, mom, I 338 00:20:00,910 --> 00:20:03,310 S6: don't know what I would do without you. It touched 339 00:20:03,310 --> 00:20:07,670 S6: my soul. It made unforgiveness go by. Yes, I said, 340 00:20:07,670 --> 00:20:08,750 S6: this is what mommies do. 341 00:20:09,150 --> 00:20:11,870 S7: Okay, so what you just described. 342 00:20:11,869 --> 00:20:17,630 S1: Then is a softening. It's like the the anger, the pain, 343 00:20:17,670 --> 00:20:21,430 S1: the bitterness, the betrayal, whatever it is. I don't know 344 00:20:21,430 --> 00:20:24,190 S1: your relationship, but it makes you hard. It's like, I'm 345 00:20:24,190 --> 00:20:27,070 S1: not going to let you hurt me anymore. I'm not 346 00:20:27,070 --> 00:20:30,230 S1: going to give you access to that. And when when 347 00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:34,830 S1: he reaches out and his words. What happened there was 348 00:20:34,830 --> 00:20:39,669 S1: your heart softened toward him. And as I said earlier, 349 00:20:39,710 --> 00:20:42,430 S1: you know, you go too far with that and become 350 00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:45,869 S1: codependent and. ET cetera. ET cetera. But it sounds like 351 00:20:45,869 --> 00:20:50,109 S1: this is what God was doing on the inside. And 352 00:20:50,109 --> 00:20:54,190 S1: and don't you want that to happen in other relationships too? 353 00:20:55,070 --> 00:20:56,710 S6: Yes, I do. I do. 354 00:20:57,030 --> 00:20:57,470 S7: Yeah. 355 00:20:58,230 --> 00:21:01,150 S1: And I'm really glad you called today. Somebody I guarantee 356 00:21:01,190 --> 00:21:05,709 S1: you somebody needed to hear that. Who's driving down the road? Uh, 357 00:21:05,710 --> 00:21:08,550 S1: like Anthony. Go back to Anthony. And Anthony pulled over 358 00:21:08,550 --> 00:21:09,909 S1: to the side of the road. Now, I think we're 359 00:21:09,910 --> 00:21:12,629 S1: supposed to be able to hear you, Anthony. Tell me. Yes. 360 00:21:12,830 --> 00:21:16,590 S1: So you were saying that the divorce ripped your heart out. 361 00:21:16,869 --> 00:21:19,790 S1: But there's a place that you've gotten to that God 362 00:21:19,790 --> 00:21:27,830 S1: has gotten you to. Tell me about that. Well, I 363 00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:30,110 S1: don't I don't think I. I hear the song. 364 00:21:30,150 --> 00:21:31,190 S5: You hear me? Hello? 365 00:21:31,470 --> 00:21:39,710 S1: Yes. Now, now I hear you. Try it one more time, Anthony. Okay. 366 00:21:39,869 --> 00:21:43,430 S1: We're not. We're just not clicking on all cylinders. But 367 00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:49,910 S1: Anthony has got a really good story there. What about you? Eight. Seven. Seven. Five. Four. Eight. Three. Six. 368 00:21:49,950 --> 00:21:54,070 S1: Seven five. Megan said on Facebook. Greetings, Chris. Since my 369 00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:56,390 S1: prayer walk, you would not believe the work God has 370 00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:59,869 S1: done in me, through me. I can't believe what I 371 00:21:59,869 --> 00:22:02,350 S1: get to do on a daily basis. I'll say this 372 00:22:02,869 --> 00:22:06,629 S1: God does not waste our pain. He redeems every single 373 00:22:06,670 --> 00:22:08,990 S1: bit of it in ways that are far better than 374 00:22:08,990 --> 00:22:12,030 S1: I could have imagined. And now I get to comfort 375 00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:15,590 S1: people with the same comfort I received from the Lord. 376 00:22:16,030 --> 00:22:18,230 S1: And I'm so grateful to God for that day. When 377 00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:21,030 S1: God divinely arranged for me to be on your program. 378 00:22:21,030 --> 00:22:24,470 S1: She was a caller, as I recall, and it was 379 00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:29,310 S1: a program about sex trafficking or something along those lines. 380 00:22:29,710 --> 00:22:34,550 S1: And she said just the ability to share broke off 381 00:22:34,550 --> 00:22:37,550 S1: the heavy sadness I was lugging around by the blood 382 00:22:37,550 --> 00:22:39,869 S1: of the Lamb and the word of my testimony. So 383 00:22:39,869 --> 00:22:45,389 S1: the change for Megan was taking that heavy sadness, maybe 384 00:22:45,390 --> 00:22:48,510 S1: the guilt, the shame, whatever it was, that weight that 385 00:22:48,510 --> 00:22:52,989 S1: she was carrying about the past. God was able to 386 00:22:53,030 --> 00:22:56,590 S1: take that. And now what's she doing? She's she's doing 387 00:22:56,590 --> 00:23:00,629 S1: the prayer walk around the place that where she was captive, 388 00:23:00,630 --> 00:23:05,750 S1: where she was imprisoned, if you will. And there are 389 00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:08,670 S1: a lot of people who aren't in a physical prison, 390 00:23:08,670 --> 00:23:12,909 S1: but they're in that mental prison, in that soul prison 391 00:23:12,910 --> 00:23:17,670 S1: that we talked about last week. Joy is in New York. Joy, 392 00:23:17,670 --> 00:23:18,870 S1: why did you call today? 393 00:23:19,710 --> 00:23:23,990 S8: Well, my life has been changed. Um, because God told 394 00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:27,230 S8: me what real love is. I think that as a society, 395 00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:31,510 S8: Our girls especially grow up watching these fairy tales and 396 00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:37,190 S8: Cinderella and all that nonsense. And even our society today, 397 00:23:37,230 --> 00:23:43,870 S8: I think, has mistaken lust for love. And, um, I 398 00:23:43,869 --> 00:23:48,389 S8: think that I was reading first Corinthians 13, of course, 399 00:23:48,430 --> 00:23:53,310 S8: the definition of love. And it struck me in my 60s, 400 00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:57,750 S8: been married 40 years, have four kids. It struck me 401 00:23:57,750 --> 00:24:00,270 S8: that I didn't raise my children with love. It struck 402 00:24:00,270 --> 00:24:04,149 S8: me that my marriage was so rough because I wasn't loving. 403 00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:07,630 S8: And the truth of the matter is, God showed me 404 00:24:07,670 --> 00:24:10,910 S8: what love is. Love isn't winning on top of an argument. 405 00:24:10,990 --> 00:24:15,710 S8: Love isn't somebody bringing you flowers all the time. And 406 00:24:15,710 --> 00:24:22,430 S8: love is not the physical embrace. That's the gift of marriage. Love. 407 00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:25,990 S8: God showed me open my eyes after all of these 408 00:24:26,109 --> 00:24:29,590 S8: years and I've been chasing after the Lord my whole life. 409 00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:34,550 S8: He showed me that love is being patient, being kind, 410 00:24:34,750 --> 00:24:38,710 S8: trying not to get the last word, letting somebody be right, 411 00:24:38,869 --> 00:24:42,030 S8: letting somebody have it their way. If it's, if it's 412 00:24:42,030 --> 00:24:46,150 S8: not hurting anything. And it's just this whole delusion that 413 00:24:46,150 --> 00:24:48,670 S8: we're in right now, especially my heart breaks for these 414 00:24:48,670 --> 00:24:51,990 S8: children who think that love is a physical, that love 415 00:24:52,030 --> 00:24:55,870 S8: they that it's so wrong, it's so misled. And it, 416 00:24:55,869 --> 00:24:59,470 S8: it if the world could just open their eyes and 417 00:24:59,470 --> 00:25:03,909 S8: read that passage. Love is patient and kind and understanding. 418 00:25:03,910 --> 00:25:06,590 S8: And it's just it's not all of these other things. 419 00:25:06,590 --> 00:25:10,030 S8: And the day that that happened, the day that it 420 00:25:10,030 --> 00:25:13,270 S8: really was like a bang over my head saying, God, 421 00:25:13,630 --> 00:25:17,350 S8: you know, God said to me, this is love. I 422 00:25:17,390 --> 00:25:20,030 S8: don't fight with my husband anymore. I know that sounds silly, 423 00:25:20,910 --> 00:25:23,550 S8: but he makes me laugh. You know. 424 00:25:24,190 --> 00:25:27,869 S1: What? you're saying that first Corinthians 13, it's it's giving, 425 00:25:27,910 --> 00:25:32,790 S1: it's it's listening. It's it's putting him first. It's putting 426 00:25:32,830 --> 00:25:37,310 S1: others before your own needs. I get exactly. And, and 427 00:25:37,310 --> 00:25:40,550 S1: the gospel leads us to that. I'm so glad you 428 00:25:40,550 --> 00:25:43,430 S1: got through, Joy. I can hear the joy in your 429 00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:50,990 S1: voice today. And I want to hear the change from you. Eight. Seven. Seven. Five. Four. Eight. Three. Six. Seven. Five. 430 00:26:03,270 --> 00:26:05,790 S1: There's hope. There's hope for you, friend. There's hope for 431 00:26:05,790 --> 00:26:09,590 S1: somebody you care about. Who's going down a wrong trail. 432 00:26:10,109 --> 00:26:12,390 S1: And you want them to change. And the hope is 433 00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:14,790 S1: not that you can do this for them, or you 434 00:26:14,790 --> 00:26:17,230 S1: can do it even for yourself. The hope is that 435 00:26:17,230 --> 00:26:22,390 S1: God will begin something in you. And that happened to 436 00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:26,109 S1: a friend of mine, the name of Doctor John Perkins. 437 00:26:27,670 --> 00:26:32,190 S1: Throughout this, the last 20 or 30 years, I've had 438 00:26:32,190 --> 00:26:37,390 S1: several conversations with him and he passed away in March. 439 00:26:38,030 --> 00:26:42,629 S1: And in honor of him and his ministry, we're sending 440 00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:45,510 S1: anybody who gives a gift to this program one blood. 441 00:26:45,710 --> 00:26:49,590 S1: Parting words to the church on race and love. Today's 442 00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:51,830 S1: the last day of that. Oh, by the way, it's 443 00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:55,109 S1: the last day of doctor Mark jobs presidency at Moody 444 00:26:55,109 --> 00:26:58,830 S1: Bible Institute. For seven years he's been president of Moody. 445 00:26:59,190 --> 00:27:02,469 S1: And today's his last day. So a tip of the hat. 446 00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:06,389 S1: Thank you, Doctor Jobe, for your service to Moody. Um, 447 00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:10,109 S1: and thank you, Doctor Perkins, for allowing God to do 448 00:27:10,109 --> 00:27:13,510 S1: something in you and then through you, because that's what 449 00:27:13,510 --> 00:27:18,189 S1: happens when you change. God does the change in you. 450 00:27:18,190 --> 00:27:22,520 S1: And he works both in you and through you. As 451 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,120 S1: a matter of fact, in the book One Blood, this 452 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,040 S1: is what I was reading when I saw this and 453 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,720 S1: I thought, we've got to do this program, he wrote. 454 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,440 S1: I had learned to hate the white people of Mississippi, 455 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:40,840 S1: and that just that just brought me up short. And 456 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,520 S1: he went to church. As a matter of fact, let 457 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,000 S1: me play this clip of him from November of 2015. 458 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,240 S1: He was at Wheaton College. Doctor Philip Ryken sat down 459 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,399 S1: with Doctor Perkins. They had a conversation, I believe, in 460 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,280 S1: front of the students, and I have always been enamored 461 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,960 S1: with Doctor Perkins conversion because it was a child who 462 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,560 S1: led him to Jesus. His son Spencer listened to Doctor 463 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:06,480 S1: John Perkins. 464 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:12,280 S9: In 19 and I'm 57. I had been invited to 465 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,800 S9: this church in through my oldest son, Spencer, who had 466 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,080 S9: got involved in good news clubs, and I. Finally they 467 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,440 S9: got him into a local church and he invited me 468 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,439 S9: to come to the church. I think that was the 469 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,960 S9: time I really heard it. And the passage of Scripture. 470 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,440 S9: That's why I'm so committed to the Word of God, 471 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,239 S9: the pastors of Scripture. And I knew nothing about it. 472 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,440 S9: I did not grow up in a religious environment, and 473 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,240 S9: in that, I'd gone to this church a few times, 474 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,080 S9: but something had impressed me. There was a they had 475 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,840 S9: a sign, beautiful sign on the pulpit there that said 476 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,560 S9: that the wages of sin is death, but the gift 477 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,520 S9: of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. 478 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,600 S9: I didn't know what that was, but I knew what 479 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,440 S9: wages was because I was coming from Mississippi, and I 480 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,640 S9: remember that we had been semi slaves. So I understood that. 481 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,480 S9: But as I went there that morning, Paul was giving 482 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:18,520 S9: his own conversion experience in Galatians 220, in that passage 483 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,080 S9: of Scripture was when God actually spoke through that passage 484 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,920 S9: to me and my longing. See, I grew up without 485 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,160 S9: a mother. I grew up without a father. I grew 486 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,920 S9: up without an institution of love. My father was in 487 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,160 S9: the world, but he wasn't there. My mother died when 488 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,440 S9: I was seven months old, and I think that all 489 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,600 S9: the longings of my life was met in this scripture. 490 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,040 S9: It spoke to my emotion. It spoke to my longing. 491 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:53,120 S9: Paul said, I explained himself. He said, I have been 492 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:58,320 S9: crucified with Christ. Nevertheless I live, yet not I, but 493 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,720 S9: Christ lives in me, and the life that I now 494 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,040 S9: live in the flesh. He said, I live by the 495 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,440 S9: faith of the Son of God, who loved me and 496 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,840 S9: gave himself for me. I discovered that that morning. What 497 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,840 S9: my greatest longing in life for that I had missed 498 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,440 S9: was being loved. And here was my young son, three 499 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,840 S9: year old had brought me there and I said, if 500 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,640 S9: there's a God in heaven that loved me enough to 501 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,040 S9: give his only begotten son for my sin, I want 502 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,280 S9: to know that God. That was the beginning of me 503 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,520 S9: coming to know that God. 504 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:43,600 S1: So, Paul, there's another change, Agent Saul, who breathing out threats, 505 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:48,520 S1: you know, murderous threats. He had once been so against 506 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:53,680 S1: the way so against this scourge of Christianity that he 507 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,600 S1: he was hunting him down. He was on the road 508 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,640 S1: to Damascus when when Jesus broke through and there was 509 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,800 S1: such a a change in him. Here's what Doctor Perkins 510 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,000 S1: said in the book One Blood almost immediately after Spencer 511 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,320 S1: took him to church. And I just love a three 512 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,080 S1: year old evangelist. Almost immediately, God began to do something 513 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,680 S1: radical in my heart. He began to challenge my prejudices 514 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,840 S1: and my hatred toward others. I had learned to hate 515 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,600 S1: the white people in Mississippi. I hated their control over 516 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,640 S1: our lives. I hated them for what they had done 517 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:37,160 S1: to my brother Clyde, who died, who was killed. I 518 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,440 S1: hated them for refusing to see me as a person 519 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,200 S1: deserving of respect just because I was a human being. 520 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,719 S1: I had so much hate and you can understand why. 521 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,080 S1: And he said, if I had not met Jesus, I 522 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,480 S1: would have died carrying that heavy burden of hate to 523 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:58,840 S1: my grave. But he began to strip it away, layer 524 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,160 S1: by layer. He reminded me again and again that I 525 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,720 S1: could not hoard his love, and I could not be 526 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,840 S1: selective about who I would share it with. The love 527 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,120 S1: he had shed abroad in my heart was meant to 528 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,280 S1: be shared with others regardless of their color. And one 529 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,360 S1: of the breakthroughs. If you read his story. One of 530 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,720 S1: the breakthroughs is when he was in the Brandon jail 531 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,280 S1: and nearly died from his injuries being beaten up. They 532 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,440 S1: took him to the hospital and it was the white doctor, 533 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,400 S1: and it was the white nurses around him that he 534 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,360 S1: didn't want. He didn't like these people because of their 535 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,000 S1: skin color, but they were ministering to him. They were 536 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,800 S1: nursing him. The doctor was sitting with him in the 537 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,600 S1: evening till he went to sleep, and his heart began 538 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,320 S1: to change, an inner change that led to an outer 539 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,200 S1: change that spills over onto you and me today. This 540 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,560 S1: is my last day to mention this. Let me send 541 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,120 S1: you a copy of one blood. Doctor Perkins said there 542 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,920 S1: is no institution on earth more equipped or capable of 543 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,680 S1: bringing transformation to the cause of reconciliation than the church, 544 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,240 S1: because the church gives the gospel, and the gospel is 545 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:18,160 S1: the power of God. Um, 86695, five is our number. 546 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,000 S1: If you want to give a gift of any size, 547 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,160 S1: we'd love to send it to you. Today's the last 548 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:28,360 S1: day or go to the website. Chris Fabry live.org. Chris fabriclive.org. 549 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,080 S1: Scroll down. You'll see how you can support us with 550 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,560 S1: a gift of any size. But today is the last day. Okay, 551 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,000 S1: Jeremy is in Tennessee. Jeremy, why did you call today? 552 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,320 S1: They don't hear. I don't hear Jeremy and now I do. Okay, Jeremy. 553 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:47,960 S1: Go ahead. 554 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:54,960 S10: Yeah, my my phone was being difficult about coming off mute. Uh, 555 00:33:55,160 --> 00:34:00,520 S10: the the just the change. And just like what I 556 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,000 S10: take in has had it just, just over the years, 557 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,759 S10: just through what God is, what God has done in 558 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,919 S10: my life. It's I used to be a die hard 559 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,080 S10: metal head, ache. I would refuse to listen to anything 560 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:22,840 S10: Christian hardly at all. And this. And that's changed dramatically. 561 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,080 S10: Have you seen a picture of me when I was 21, 562 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,480 S10: 22 versus now? You would you would do a double 563 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,680 S10: take because it didn't look like the same person. I 564 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,120 S10: was wearing a Slipknot shirt. I have my eyebrow pierced. 565 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:40,800 S10: I had purple, purple hair and, and, and I've come 566 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,000 S10: to realize that now, and this is not to say 567 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,000 S10: I don't listen to any secular music at all, because 568 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,080 S10: I do still listen to some occasionally, but the but 569 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,040 S10: they it it come. I come to realize that a 570 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,200 S10: lot of the things I was believing about myself, that 571 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,400 S10: was what was what was telling me that wasn't God. 572 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,080 S10: And God was trying to tell me something else. I 573 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,680 S10: just I just refused to hear it. 574 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:06,400 S5: MM. 575 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,760 S1: So even your physical. Even the way you look physically. And, 576 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,200 S1: you know, if you're listening and you have purple hair, 577 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,239 S1: God loves you. There's nothing wrong. There's nothing wrong with 578 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,040 S1: purple hair. But there is this big change that came 579 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,479 S1: over you. And it started on the inside, didn't it? 580 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,120 S10: Yes, sir. 581 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,759 S1: Yeah. Is there is there that what I hear you 582 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,880 S1: saying is it's your attitude. It's what you believe about 583 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,880 S1: yourself that has changed the most. Is that true? 584 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,640 S10: Yeah. Because there there's there's quite a few things that I've, 585 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,200 S10: I've done recently that I would have never give myself 586 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,600 S10: enough faith to. Like I, I've always been the world's 587 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,040 S10: worst about beating myself up. And I always still am. 588 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,120 S10: I still am to a certain extent, just kind of 589 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,759 S10: the just kind of just kind of the way my 590 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:06,000 S10: mind's wired. But the but, but the I've heard God 591 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,640 S10: tell me numerous times, I've forgiven you. You need to 592 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,530 S10: forgive yourself. Yeah. 593 00:36:12,370 --> 00:36:15,210 S1: I love that. And there are people who will push 594 00:36:15,210 --> 00:36:17,770 S1: back against that, Jeremy, and say, well, there's nothing in 595 00:36:17,770 --> 00:36:20,210 S1: the Bible that says you need to forgive yourself. Well, 596 00:36:20,210 --> 00:36:23,529 S1: what what you're saying and what I say, the way 597 00:36:23,530 --> 00:36:26,690 S1: that I put it is I'm going to believe what 598 00:36:26,730 --> 00:36:30,730 S1: God says about me rather than what the enemy says 599 00:36:30,730 --> 00:36:34,089 S1: about me, or what even I say about myself at 600 00:36:34,090 --> 00:36:36,969 S1: times when I feel bad about myself. I'm going to 601 00:36:36,969 --> 00:36:39,930 S1: look at what he says and believe that and trust 602 00:36:39,930 --> 00:36:43,850 S1: him rather than trust myself. Does that make sense? 603 00:36:44,810 --> 00:36:45,330 S5: Yes, sir. 604 00:36:45,770 --> 00:36:49,129 S1: Yeah. I'm so glad you called, Jeremy. Thank you for 605 00:36:49,130 --> 00:36:51,930 S1: telling your change story here at the back fence today. 606 00:36:51,969 --> 00:36:55,649 S1: God bless you, friend. Thank you for calling in. Tell 607 00:36:55,690 --> 00:36:59,890 S1: us that story. There's somebody who needed to hear exactly 608 00:36:59,890 --> 00:37:02,930 S1: that today. Do you want that kind of change that 609 00:37:02,930 --> 00:37:07,009 S1: comes only from the inside out? It's available to you 610 00:37:07,010 --> 00:37:10,850 S1: and me today, because we serve an awfully big God 611 00:37:10,850 --> 00:37:13,610 S1: with an awful lot of love for you and me. 612 00:37:22,090 --> 00:37:24,770 S1: Tomorrow on Chris Fabry Live, we begin a series of 613 00:37:24,770 --> 00:37:30,770 S1: programs on Moody Radio at 119 26. In July of 1926, 614 00:37:30,770 --> 00:37:34,770 S1: Moody Radio went on the air and it has touched 615 00:37:34,770 --> 00:37:37,210 S1: a lot of lives through the years. And there are 616 00:37:37,210 --> 00:37:41,170 S1: a lot of shoulders, broad shoulders that we stand on 617 00:37:41,170 --> 00:37:43,529 S1: in order to be able to come to you. And 618 00:37:43,530 --> 00:37:45,770 S1: so we're going to take the month and do several 619 00:37:45,770 --> 00:37:49,290 S1: programs tomorrow. My pals Phil and Kevin are going to 620 00:37:49,290 --> 00:37:51,850 S1: be here just to talk about some of the history. 621 00:37:51,890 --> 00:37:55,410 S1: You're going to hear some audio clips from George Beverly 622 00:37:55,410 --> 00:37:59,850 S1: Shea and and others through the years. The, the station 623 00:37:59,850 --> 00:38:05,370 S1: ID that came on in 19 late 1920s. So it's a, 624 00:38:05,370 --> 00:38:08,450 S1: it's a great historical program that you're going to hear 625 00:38:08,450 --> 00:38:12,089 S1: tomorrow and then on Thursday, June hunt. Do you know 626 00:38:12,090 --> 00:38:14,730 S1: the name June Hunt? There's somebody with a lot of 627 00:38:14,730 --> 00:38:17,690 S1: legacy as well. She's given a lot of people hope 628 00:38:17,690 --> 00:38:21,490 S1: in the night through her ministry, through her writing. And 629 00:38:21,489 --> 00:38:25,970 S1: then on Friday, just before July 4th with 250 coming up, 630 00:38:26,530 --> 00:38:29,770 S1: we have a conversation with Dan Darling. So all of 631 00:38:29,810 --> 00:38:32,090 S1: that and a whole lot more coming up in the 632 00:38:32,090 --> 00:38:35,970 S1: next few days. Today it's change. Kathy says the gospel 633 00:38:35,969 --> 00:38:40,009 S1: helped me realize I need to look inwardly at myself 634 00:38:40,010 --> 00:38:42,890 S1: rather than getting frustrated at other people all the time. 635 00:38:43,130 --> 00:38:46,969 S1: God taught me to focus on reflecting him rather than 636 00:38:46,969 --> 00:38:51,210 S1: trying to fix other people. I like that it's hard 637 00:38:51,210 --> 00:38:53,649 S1: to do. It's easier to say than it is to do, 638 00:38:53,690 --> 00:38:57,570 S1: isn't it, Kathy? Uh, and then Yvonne says, I listen more. 639 00:38:57,610 --> 00:39:00,770 S1: The big change for her is she listens more. She's 640 00:39:00,770 --> 00:39:04,210 S1: a better listener. I try not to talk too much, 641 00:39:04,250 --> 00:39:07,810 S1: especially at Bible study. My niece mentioned that she had 642 00:39:07,810 --> 00:39:12,130 S1: seen this change in me before she died. And there's 643 00:39:12,130 --> 00:39:15,489 S1: the secret sauce. When other people start to see this 644 00:39:15,690 --> 00:39:19,370 S1: and then they tell you, I've noticed that there's something 645 00:39:19,370 --> 00:39:22,210 S1: there and you can you can be thankful to them 646 00:39:22,210 --> 00:39:25,770 S1: for noticing it. And then thank God for doing it. 647 00:39:25,770 --> 00:39:28,570 S1: Barbara's in Chicago. Barbara, why did you call today? 648 00:39:29,730 --> 00:39:34,010 S11: Um, I called because my past was anger. I had 649 00:39:34,050 --> 00:39:38,810 S11: I and being understood was an idol. And so, um, I, 650 00:39:39,130 --> 00:39:41,330 S11: I went to celebrate you. Carver. You heard of that, right? 651 00:39:41,370 --> 00:39:42,529 S11: Celebrate recovery. 652 00:39:42,810 --> 00:39:43,290 S1: Sure. 653 00:39:43,890 --> 00:39:46,770 S11: Yeah. So I went to that. And those ladies taught me, 654 00:39:46,770 --> 00:39:49,290 S11: you have to choose. Do I want to be understood 655 00:39:49,290 --> 00:39:51,770 S11: or do you want to have a happy day? And 656 00:39:51,930 --> 00:39:53,930 S11: I had to learn to let go of being understood. 657 00:39:53,969 --> 00:39:56,330 S11: Because when I would get angry, I would throw things, 658 00:39:56,650 --> 00:40:00,410 S11: slam doors, I was destructive. I did come from a destructive, 659 00:40:00,450 --> 00:40:03,890 S11: emotionally destructive marriage and I stayed with it because of 660 00:40:03,890 --> 00:40:07,210 S11: the kids. Now he has since died. I don't, you know. 661 00:40:07,250 --> 00:40:09,169 S11: May he rest in peace. But I'm better off now 662 00:40:09,170 --> 00:40:12,650 S11: that he died. But Jesus told me, stay in the 663 00:40:12,650 --> 00:40:15,009 S11: marriage for the sake of the children. And even now 664 00:40:15,010 --> 00:40:18,530 S11: I'm crying. My kids love me. They like me. Um. 665 00:40:18,570 --> 00:40:22,250 S11: But the understanding still comes with certain people who knew 666 00:40:22,410 --> 00:40:26,089 S11: my late husband, and they still don't understand me because 667 00:40:26,090 --> 00:40:28,370 S11: they see him the way that he was. And that's 668 00:40:28,370 --> 00:40:32,050 S11: what Jesus taught me, okay? They don't understand. Let it go. 669 00:40:32,330 --> 00:40:34,890 S11: And so that the change in me is being able 670 00:40:34,890 --> 00:40:38,370 S11: to like, explain it once. If they don't get it 671 00:40:38,370 --> 00:40:41,049 S11: a second time, let it go. But before I would 672 00:40:41,090 --> 00:40:43,529 S11: like hammer it into them. Like you gotta understand, you 673 00:40:43,570 --> 00:40:47,089 S11: got to understand how bad my husband was. So he 674 00:40:47,130 --> 00:40:51,290 S11: set me free from anger. Um, I don't throw things anymore. 675 00:40:51,370 --> 00:40:55,649 S11: I'm a different person, and I really. Of course. Jesus. 676 00:40:55,650 --> 00:40:57,009 S11: He was the one who was there for me all 677 00:40:57,010 --> 00:40:59,810 S11: the time. And the Bible verse I love is you 678 00:40:59,810 --> 00:41:01,770 S11: shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you 679 00:41:01,810 --> 00:41:05,250 S11: free Because as soon as I line up with Jesus 680 00:41:05,250 --> 00:41:07,370 S11: and what he says about me, then I'm able to 681 00:41:07,410 --> 00:41:09,450 S11: let it go, even though it's not fair. 682 00:41:09,930 --> 00:41:11,770 S12: So that is so deep. 683 00:41:11,930 --> 00:41:15,810 S1: That being understood thing, that being, you know, validated. If 684 00:41:15,850 --> 00:41:19,290 S1: you knew what I've been through, then you'd understand. And 685 00:41:19,290 --> 00:41:21,569 S1: why can't you understand? And you know, it's just like 686 00:41:21,570 --> 00:41:24,489 S1: a dog chasing its tail. You sometimes you can't get 687 00:41:24,489 --> 00:41:27,290 S1: there because of the other person is to be able 688 00:41:27,290 --> 00:41:30,970 S1: to let go of that. And then for your husband 689 00:41:30,969 --> 00:41:35,009 S1: and the. It sounds like there was room for bitterness 690 00:41:35,050 --> 00:41:39,009 S1: in your life. There was room for real anger at him, 691 00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:44,969 S1: unforgiveness to him that you worked through. And I want 692 00:41:45,010 --> 00:41:48,850 S1: to say to anybody listening, Barbara, that that that kind 693 00:41:48,850 --> 00:41:52,890 S1: of working through, I don't think that happens alone. I mean, 694 00:41:52,930 --> 00:41:55,570 S1: you and God working through it, that's a wonderful thing. 695 00:41:56,010 --> 00:41:58,930 S1: But usually it takes somebody coming alongside you who can 696 00:41:58,930 --> 00:42:01,490 S1: see what you can't see, because sometimes you're too close 697 00:42:01,489 --> 00:42:05,050 S1: to it. When somebody else can see what you can't 698 00:42:05,050 --> 00:42:09,770 S1: see and can help you see that help you move 699 00:42:09,770 --> 00:42:13,410 S1: into that, then it can really, in a marriage situation, 700 00:42:13,450 --> 00:42:17,290 S1: in a friendship at work, whatever it is, can move 701 00:42:17,330 --> 00:42:21,450 S1: past the unforgiveness, which I want to go back to 702 00:42:21,489 --> 00:42:23,850 S1: John Perkins, before we end here, today is my last 703 00:42:23,850 --> 00:42:26,930 S1: chance this month, his birthday month to play this. I 704 00:42:26,930 --> 00:42:28,969 S1: want you to hear what he had to say to 705 00:42:29,010 --> 00:42:31,050 S1: Wayne Shepherd a few years ago. 706 00:42:31,530 --> 00:42:36,969 S13: You got to get that power of forgiveness and that 707 00:42:36,969 --> 00:42:41,410 S13: I think that once you have experienced it and yourself 708 00:42:41,410 --> 00:42:45,250 S13: and have really forgiven, I think the character of that 709 00:42:45,250 --> 00:42:49,450 S13: comes out. People can know that it's real. Otherwise it 710 00:42:49,489 --> 00:42:52,890 S13: comes out in hostility. You know, it comes out in 711 00:42:52,890 --> 00:42:55,930 S13: a sort of vindictive way. If I get the advantage, 712 00:42:55,930 --> 00:42:57,890 S13: I'm going to do white folks the same way. That's 713 00:42:57,890 --> 00:43:00,970 S13: the way I'm trying to do what I'm doing now 714 00:43:01,330 --> 00:43:04,330 S13: just to get even. I'm preaching to these white people 715 00:43:04,370 --> 00:43:08,090 S13: because of all that hatred they've done to me. I'm 716 00:43:08,290 --> 00:43:11,210 S13: just telling them now that I've got the freedom to 717 00:43:11,210 --> 00:43:14,210 S13: do that. I'm telling them now because what the love 718 00:43:14,210 --> 00:43:16,609 S13: of God has done in my own heart, in my 719 00:43:16,610 --> 00:43:20,970 S13: own life. And he didn't allow this bitterness to overcome me. 720 00:43:21,250 --> 00:43:24,730 S13: And I have watched people, you know, down through the 721 00:43:24,730 --> 00:43:28,290 S13: years since then. I watched so many of our folks 722 00:43:28,290 --> 00:43:30,890 S13: who came out of the civil rights movement was never 723 00:43:30,890 --> 00:43:34,489 S13: able to cross over, was never able to overcome that, 724 00:43:34,489 --> 00:43:37,130 S13: and many of them was in mental institution. Many of 725 00:43:37,130 --> 00:43:38,850 S13: them are dead. Many of them is, you know what 726 00:43:38,850 --> 00:43:41,930 S13: I mean? And, um, uh, either their life is a 727 00:43:41,930 --> 00:43:46,010 S13: wreck out there because they kept that bitterness. I mean, 728 00:43:46,050 --> 00:43:50,610 S13: forgiveness of sin and is, is, is the big act 729 00:43:50,610 --> 00:43:54,049 S13: of God in terms of sending his son so that 730 00:43:54,050 --> 00:43:58,219 S13: we could have this joy of forgiveness and then we 731 00:43:58,219 --> 00:44:02,900 S13: could be empowered to proclaim this love to others. To me, 732 00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:05,700 S13: that's the exciting element, and that's what we got to 733 00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:09,420 S13: get people to see that that that the suffering, as 734 00:44:09,420 --> 00:44:13,660 S13: Paul said of this present life, is not worthy to 735 00:44:13,660 --> 00:44:17,340 S13: be compared with the glory that's going to be revealed 736 00:44:18,140 --> 00:44:21,860 S13: in us and the possibility through us while we are 737 00:44:21,860 --> 00:44:22,660 S13: here on earth. 738 00:44:23,940 --> 00:44:27,140 S1: And you could hear the joy in Doctor Perkins voice 739 00:44:27,140 --> 00:44:29,700 S1: there as he kind of explains, this is something I 740 00:44:29,739 --> 00:44:32,940 S1: couldn't do. I couldn't do this myself. As a matter 741 00:44:32,940 --> 00:44:35,339 S1: of fact, he writes in that book, One Blood I 742 00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:38,140 S1: Never imagined. When I left Mississippi at the age of 16, 743 00:44:38,180 --> 00:44:40,940 S1: God would bring me back with a changed heart toward 744 00:44:40,940 --> 00:44:44,379 S1: white people. I left Mississippi with hate in my heart. 745 00:44:44,380 --> 00:44:46,739 S1: God brought me back with a heart that was overflowing 746 00:44:46,739 --> 00:44:50,460 S1: with his love. I had been reconciled to Christ, and 747 00:44:50,460 --> 00:44:53,339 S1: he prepared me to return to Mississippi, to be reconciled 748 00:44:53,340 --> 00:44:56,540 S1: to my white brothers and sisters. Even today, when I 749 00:44:56,580 --> 00:45:00,860 S1: think back on this, I'm overwhelmed at the transforming power 750 00:45:00,860 --> 00:45:06,460 S1: of God. God is the ultimate reconciler. Words of Doctor 751 00:45:06,460 --> 00:45:10,780 S1: John Perkins, who passed away in March. The legacy. Thank 752 00:45:10,820 --> 00:45:13,259 S1: you that we have for you this month. Today's the 753 00:45:13,260 --> 00:45:16,740 S1: last day. One blood. Parting words to the church on 754 00:45:16,739 --> 00:45:22,700 S1: race and love and reconciliation and a heart of love 755 00:45:22,980 --> 00:45:28,060 S1: and change. Just go to Chris fabry.org. Scroll down. You'll 756 00:45:28,060 --> 00:45:29,899 S1: see how you can get a copy of this. We'd 757 00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:32,620 S1: love to send it your way. Today's the last day 758 00:45:32,620 --> 00:45:34,700 S1: and I wanted to do this program. When I read 759 00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:37,180 S1: that paragraph, it was like, yeah, we need to talk 760 00:45:37,180 --> 00:45:40,500 S1: about this kind of change that God can do in 761 00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:44,020 S1: our lives. Do you have something inside, as you're listening 762 00:45:44,020 --> 00:45:46,820 S1: here today that you say, yeah, God's made a difference 763 00:45:46,820 --> 00:45:49,020 S1: in my life and he has made a change. But there's, 764 00:45:49,340 --> 00:45:53,900 S1: there's more. There's, there's something else that's that he's revealing 765 00:45:53,940 --> 00:45:59,020 S1: to me Even that revealing that revelation of, hey, there's 766 00:45:59,020 --> 00:46:03,020 S1: something here that else that needs to change. That's him 767 00:46:03,020 --> 00:46:06,940 S1: at work in your heart and life. So cooperate with 768 00:46:06,940 --> 00:46:10,140 S1: him as much as you can get with somebody else. 769 00:46:10,140 --> 00:46:14,620 S1: Confess your faults, sins to one another, and and allow 770 00:46:14,620 --> 00:46:17,900 S1: that to be an agent of change in your life. 771 00:46:18,340 --> 00:46:22,060 S1: And again, go to chris.org. You can find out more 772 00:46:22,060 --> 00:46:26,339 S1: about that book, One Blood by Doctor John Perkins. Tomorrow 773 00:46:26,340 --> 00:46:29,420 S1: it is a walk back. We get in the Wayback Machine. 774 00:46:29,420 --> 00:46:32,779 S1: We go back 100 years, and we listen to some 775 00:46:32,780 --> 00:46:36,620 S1: voices on Moody Radio that have made a huge difference. 776 00:46:36,980 --> 00:46:39,460 S1: And you'll hear it right here on Chris Fabry Live, 777 00:46:39,460 --> 00:46:42,420 S1: which is a production of Moody Radio, a Ministry of 778 00:46:42,420 --> 00:46:45,420 S1: Moody Bible Institute. Thanks a lot for listening.