WEBVTT - Cleanse your Temple

0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.360
<v S1>Coming to you from the Morning Star Mission sponsored studio.

0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:08.120
<v S1>This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:11.440
<v S2>The interesting thing about this week that we're in, and

0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.240
<v S2>I just want to tell you, this is the week

0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:18.400
<v S2>for a reset. I love Christmas, I love 4th of July,

0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:22.160
<v S2>I love Memorial Day and Labor Day, but there's no

0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:28.480
<v S2>date like a reset date other than Resurrection Sunday.

0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.600
<v S3>I so agree. I am me, I am so with you.

0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:32.280
<v S4>Yeah, absolutely.

0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.559
<v S2>If there's ever a day for a holy reset as

0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.839
<v S2>you're ramping up this Holy Week towards Sunday, that's a

0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.640
<v S2>day when you can celebrate that your sins have been

0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:45.400
<v S2>nailed to the cross and that our God is alive,

0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:50.240
<v S2>and he's at work in you now. So whatever is

0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.720
<v S2>left unsurrendered, you've got something that's just kicking your tail

0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:57.560
<v S2>over and over again. Make this Sunday a day of consecration.

0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:59.360
<v S2>Give it to God and watch him move. Well, we're

0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.140
<v S2>in Holy Week, and one of the questions is, what's

0:01:02.140 --> 0:01:05.060
<v S2>the chronology of everything that went down? The cursing of

0:01:05.060 --> 0:01:08.380
<v S2>the fig tree, the clearing of the temple. You see

0:01:08.540 --> 0:01:11.300
<v S2>the betrayal of Judas, you see the washing of feet.

0:01:11.300 --> 0:01:15.100
<v S2>All these things have some chronology and some kind of

0:01:15.140 --> 0:01:19.700
<v S2>method to this whole thing. Doctor Jim Coakley, big dog Prof.

0:01:19.700 --> 0:01:22.339
<v S2>Here at Moody. How about that for a bio? And

0:01:22.340 --> 0:01:25.100
<v S2>one of our elders at 180 Chicago and he's with

0:01:25.100 --> 0:01:26.819
<v S2>us right now. How are you, my man?

0:01:26.860 --> 0:01:29.740
<v S5>I'm doing great. Yeah. No, you're right that this week

0:01:29.740 --> 0:01:32.380
<v S5>there's so much that's happening. And Christmas, we spend a

0:01:32.380 --> 0:01:34.740
<v S5>whole month on the incarnation, but we hardly have enough

0:01:34.740 --> 0:01:38.060
<v S5>time within between Palm Sunday and Easter Sunday to get

0:01:38.060 --> 0:01:41.020
<v S5>all of the events that took place in this week.

0:01:41.060 --> 0:01:43.940
<v S2>Okay. Which gospel account do you like to go to

0:01:44.020 --> 0:01:47.260
<v S2>when we see him flipping over the money changers table?

0:01:47.300 --> 0:01:51.220
<v S2>Because there was huge exploitation of people coming for Passover

0:01:51.220 --> 0:01:54.500
<v S2>to make sacrifice. What's going on with that narrative, and

0:01:54.500 --> 0:01:56.260
<v S2>what passage do you love to use?

0:01:56.300 --> 0:02:00.070
<v S5>Yeah, I like looking at Mark chapter 11 Because he

0:02:00.270 --> 0:02:02.910
<v S5>mark does something that is very special. We call it

0:02:02.910 --> 0:02:06.230
<v S5>the mark and sandwich. Basically, what he often does in

0:02:06.230 --> 0:02:10.550
<v S5>this whole gospel is he'll sandwich between a central event,

0:02:10.550 --> 0:02:12.910
<v S5>something on either end of it. And so we have

0:02:12.910 --> 0:02:15.670
<v S5>the cursing of the fig tree on one end, and

0:02:15.669 --> 0:02:17.750
<v S5>then we have the cleansing of the temple, as we

0:02:17.790 --> 0:02:20.190
<v S5>so call it. And then we have him going back

0:02:20.190 --> 0:02:23.070
<v S5>by that fig tree. And so they're all connected. And

0:02:23.070 --> 0:02:26.429
<v S5>so I like that passage because we really see clearly

0:02:26.470 --> 0:02:29.190
<v S5>what the theme is of what happens with this so-called

0:02:29.190 --> 0:02:31.230
<v S5>cleansing of the temple. And that even is something that

0:02:31.230 --> 0:02:35.230
<v S5>we need to clarify. Because what is cleansing? Is it cleansing?

0:02:35.230 --> 0:02:38.549
<v S5>Is it cursing what is really going on here? And

0:02:38.550 --> 0:02:42.150
<v S5>that's why some scholars call it the temple incident, because

0:02:42.190 --> 0:02:43.830
<v S5>it leaves it a little more open.

0:02:44.750 --> 0:02:47.710
<v S2>To touch on this chronology thing, though, for just a second.

0:02:47.950 --> 0:02:52.190
<v S2>Why is it important? And some people try to undermine

0:02:52.230 --> 0:02:55.710
<v S2>little different aspects of Scripture when they see what looks

0:02:55.710 --> 0:02:59.770
<v S2>to be a different chronology. To me, it's just each author.

0:02:59.810 --> 0:03:03.570
<v S2>The gospel is highlighting different aspects of all the events

0:03:03.570 --> 0:03:08.010
<v S2>in in the life of Jesus, most particularly Holy Week.

0:03:08.010 --> 0:03:09.010
<v S2>What do you say, Jim?

0:03:09.050 --> 0:03:11.850
<v S5>Yeah, I totally agree. And I think this is where

0:03:12.010 --> 0:03:14.970
<v S5>we see a great example of it with today's events.

0:03:15.090 --> 0:03:18.329
<v S5>When we think about Palm Sunday or Coronation Sundays, I

0:03:18.330 --> 0:03:21.010
<v S5>like to call it that took place when, of course,

0:03:21.010 --> 0:03:24.810
<v S5>Christ is announcing himself as the King and Hosanna is

0:03:24.850 --> 0:03:28.290
<v S5>being shouted. But then it says that again we have

0:03:28.290 --> 0:03:32.209
<v S5>these events, and if we look at John's gospel, we

0:03:32.210 --> 0:03:35.210
<v S5>can see he has it early in the ministry in

0:03:35.210 --> 0:03:37.530
<v S5>John chapter two. But all of the rest of the

0:03:37.570 --> 0:03:40.370
<v S5>gospel writers put it at the end of the Gospels,

0:03:40.370 --> 0:03:41.850
<v S5>in the first day of the Holy Week.

0:03:42.650 --> 0:03:47.170
<v S2>So he walks into the temple. He's already coming in

0:03:47.410 --> 0:03:51.930
<v S2>with fanfare, riding on a donkey. And which is what's

0:03:51.930 --> 0:03:57.330
<v S2>crazy about this is that he chooses more than just

0:03:57.330 --> 0:04:01.230
<v S2>to fulfill Zechariah nine nine. He chooses to take the

0:04:01.230 --> 0:04:06.150
<v S2>posture of an unusual king, not one setting himself up

0:04:06.190 --> 0:04:09.630
<v S2>above or on par with the kings of this world,

0:04:09.630 --> 0:04:15.310
<v S2>but actually lowly, taking a posture of humility and then whiplash.

0:04:15.550 --> 0:04:18.430
<v S2>He goes into the temple and he starts flipping over

0:04:18.470 --> 0:04:20.150
<v S2>granite tables. What do you say?

0:04:20.190 --> 0:04:22.870
<v S5>Yeah, that is the kind of more schizophrenic nature that

0:04:22.870 --> 0:04:26.109
<v S5>we have him being and sense riding in that sense

0:04:26.110 --> 0:04:30.550
<v S5>of humility. But two donkeys are something that Kings Road Solomon,

0:04:30.550 --> 0:04:33.070
<v S5>when he was coronated, basically probably did the same path

0:04:33.070 --> 0:04:35.990
<v S5>that Jesus did down to the Gihon Spring to be

0:04:35.990 --> 0:04:38.550
<v S5>coronated when he was there. And David said, put him

0:04:38.550 --> 0:04:41.030
<v S5>on one of my donkeys. So this was a very

0:04:41.029 --> 0:04:45.029
<v S5>clear royal kind of significant event. So it wasn't that

0:04:45.029 --> 0:04:48.229
<v S5>he was just riding a lowly, lowly animal. It's just

0:04:48.230 --> 0:04:51.150
<v S5>that this was what Kings did when they would be coronated.

0:04:51.150 --> 0:04:55.550
<v S5>Because kings on horses without saddles, they're going to be undignified. Uh,

0:04:55.550 --> 0:04:58.360
<v S5>and so they're going to fall off. And so even

0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.800
<v S5>throughout the book of judges, we see leaders sons riding donkeys.

0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.160
<v S5>So this is a pretty common kind of beast of

0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:05.880
<v S5>burden that's used for carrying kings.

0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:10.080
<v S2>That's fascinating. So was that exclusive to the Jewish people

0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:14.160
<v S2>or was because the common nature of war and warriors,

0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.599
<v S2>even in the Roman Empire, wouldn't have been a donkey

0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:17.240
<v S2>per se?

0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.440
<v S5>Oh, no. And this is why kings riding around kind

0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.480
<v S5>of doing their normal royal duties. Uh, if you're going

0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.080
<v S5>off to war, you're definitely riding a horse. But if

0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.520
<v S5>you're riding around town doing official duties or going to

0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:33.400
<v S5>be coordinated as king, you're riding on a donkey. And

0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.320
<v S5>so that's the thing. Now, we do know that Christ

0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.520
<v S5>is going to come riding a white horse someday. Yeah.

0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:38.119
<v S2>So he's coming.

0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.560
<v S5>In. He's coming in with the great judgment.

0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.400
<v S2>Okay. What's going on in the cleansing of the temple?

0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.280
<v S2>Let's just touch on that quickly, and then I'm going

0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:46.800
<v S2>to carry it over because I want to get into

0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.000
<v S2>the weeds on it. Big picture. What's happening?

0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.880
<v S5>Yeah. Like we already mentioned, we have him cursing the figs. Uh,

0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.840
<v S5>the fig tree that's not producing. Now, of course, people

0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.780
<v S5>bent out of shape with. Well, how is it that Christ, uh,

0:05:58.940 --> 0:06:02.020
<v S5>already knew that this was not the season for figs? Well,

0:06:02.020 --> 0:06:05.100
<v S5>that's the point, is that he's using this as an illustration,

0:06:05.100 --> 0:06:07.420
<v S5>as a parable, as it were. Uh, and when we

0:06:07.420 --> 0:06:09.420
<v S5>look at all of the Old Testament again, I was

0:06:09.420 --> 0:06:13.540
<v S5>fascinated by the passages like Isaiah five talking about Israel

0:06:13.540 --> 0:06:16.419
<v S5>as a vineyard and not producing fruit. And so we're

0:06:16.420 --> 0:06:19.740
<v S5>going back to that fruitfulness kind of imagery. And we

0:06:19.740 --> 0:06:22.580
<v S5>have this great temple. Uh, it's all, as they say

0:06:22.580 --> 0:06:26.020
<v S5>in Texas, all cattle and no all hat and no cattle. Yeah.

0:06:26.140 --> 0:06:28.580
<v S5>And so it's the idea that it should be a

0:06:28.580 --> 0:06:31.300
<v S5>place of prayer. And I think that's what Mark and

0:06:31.300 --> 0:06:35.580
<v S5>other gospel writers emphasize. And instead it's become this place

0:06:35.580 --> 0:06:38.859
<v S5>for marketeering kind of work. And it's not so much

0:06:38.860 --> 0:06:42.740
<v S5>that commercialization is happening that that's not a problem in

0:06:42.740 --> 0:06:45.420
<v S5>and of itself. It's where it's happening and what price

0:06:45.420 --> 0:06:49.380
<v S5>they're charging to people for these animals. And so then

0:06:49.380 --> 0:06:53.860
<v S5>he changes. He turns over the money changers tables. And then,

0:06:53.900 --> 0:06:56.200
<v S5>you know, again, we see the fig tree and its

0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.120
<v S5>the being, in a sense, withered. And it's really a

0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.800
<v S5>foreshadowing of the temple, uh, kind of, uh, in a sense, uh,

0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:06.080
<v S5>in a sense falling off of all of its accolades

0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.120
<v S5>and it's being shown as totally vapid.

0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:13.040
<v S2>Yeah. And reference for sure to 70 A.D. and and

0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.800
<v S2>then beyond. Okay. Coming up here in a moment. Jim Coakley.

0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.640
<v S2>Doctor Jim Coakley with me in studio here. We're going

0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:23.760
<v S2>to tackle application because it's one thing to go, oh,

0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.360
<v S2>these are the events. It's another thing to say, so

0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:30.320
<v S2>what does that matter to me? The cleansing of the table.

0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.720
<v S2>And how do we apply it to our lives today?

0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:33.280
<v S2>Hang on.

0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.280
<v S1>She was trying to earn her way to God, but

0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:39.800
<v S1>God showed her she didn't have to. Ali is in

0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:43.120
<v S1>the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:47.040
<v S2>My house shall be called a house of prayer. But

0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:51.800
<v S2>you made it into a den of robbers selling pigeons.

0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:55.850
<v S2>Probably at increased sum of money because. yeah, they got

0:07:55.890 --> 0:08:00.290
<v S2>a captive audience. Got to make sacrifices. But they were

0:08:00.290 --> 0:08:03.010
<v S2>ripping off more than that, weren't they? Jim, doctor Jim

0:08:03.010 --> 0:08:06.090
<v S2>Coakley is with me right now. Uh, professor, here at

0:08:06.090 --> 0:08:08.770
<v S2>Moody Bible Institute, one of our elders at 180 Chicago

0:08:08.770 --> 0:08:11.970
<v S2>radio in Chicagoland. This den of thieves metaphor goes way

0:08:12.010 --> 0:08:14.650
<v S2>deeper than just a commerce problem. Right, Jim?

0:08:14.690 --> 0:08:18.810
<v S5>Yeah. Because in a sense, we look at Mark quotes,

0:08:19.130 --> 0:08:22.770
<v S5>all of Isaiah's 57 verse where it says, my house

0:08:22.770 --> 0:08:26.330
<v S5>shall be called a house of prayer. And Isaiah goes

0:08:26.330 --> 0:08:30.530
<v S5>on to say, for all the nations within the temple complex,

0:08:30.530 --> 0:08:32.930
<v S5>you have the big temple with the Holy of Holies

0:08:32.929 --> 0:08:35.329
<v S5>and everything else. And then you have, you know, the

0:08:35.330 --> 0:08:37.330
<v S5>court of the women, and you have the court of

0:08:37.330 --> 0:08:40.450
<v S5>the Gentiles. And there is debate about where this incident

0:08:40.450 --> 0:08:43.850
<v S5>took place with him changing over the money tables. For

0:08:43.850 --> 0:08:45.970
<v S5>a long time I've waffled. Is it on the Herodian

0:08:45.970 --> 0:08:48.090
<v S5>street that we go to when we take tours to

0:08:48.130 --> 0:08:50.410
<v S5>Israel and see it there on the corner, or is

0:08:50.410 --> 0:08:52.730
<v S5>it up on the Temple Mount? I'm starting to lean

0:08:52.770 --> 0:08:55.390
<v S5>now towards it was up on the Temple Mount, because

0:08:55.390 --> 0:08:58.310
<v S5>this is where the court of the Gentiles was located,

0:08:58.309 --> 0:09:01.990
<v S5>and they're taking space over for people from all nations

0:09:01.990 --> 0:09:05.709
<v S5>to come to this temple during Passover. And they're reallocating

0:09:05.710 --> 0:09:09.870
<v S5>that space for commercialization, and then they're charging exorbitant rates.

0:09:09.870 --> 0:09:13.390
<v S5>Some even say even for a dove, a pigeon is

0:09:13.390 --> 0:09:17.309
<v S5>25 times the going rate because they have, in a sense, a,

0:09:17.510 --> 0:09:19.429
<v S5>you know, a monopoly on the market that people are

0:09:19.429 --> 0:09:22.230
<v S5>going to pay just to have. And that was for

0:09:22.230 --> 0:09:25.630
<v S5>a poor man's offering. And so they're they're really ripping

0:09:25.630 --> 0:09:27.589
<v S5>off the poor. And I think when we look at

0:09:27.590 --> 0:09:30.670
<v S5>the prophets and what they're crying against, it's abuse of

0:09:30.670 --> 0:09:33.590
<v S5>the poor not allowing others to come in, kind of

0:09:33.870 --> 0:09:37.910
<v S5>reclaiming space for their own selfish gain. And we see

0:09:37.910 --> 0:09:40.870
<v S5>that over and over again. And by Jesus quoting from

0:09:40.870 --> 0:09:45.950
<v S5>Jeremiah seven, the temple sermon from Jeremiah, he's really getting

0:09:45.990 --> 0:09:49.590
<v S5>into their craw and really taking them to task for

0:09:49.630 --> 0:09:52.670
<v S5>their wicked abuse of these temple practices.

0:09:52.710 --> 0:09:54.929
<v S2>You know, I was sharing this yesterday in a message

0:09:54.929 --> 0:09:58.810
<v S2>that it seems to me that what was ultimately being

0:09:58.809 --> 0:10:02.530
<v S2>ripped off here was equal access to God, which is

0:10:02.530 --> 0:10:07.250
<v S2>what prayer is. There's no passage cost for entry, and

0:10:07.250 --> 0:10:11.650
<v S2>they've taken a house of prayer. And by way of commerce,

0:10:11.809 --> 0:10:15.809
<v S2>they've cut off some people from feeling like there was

0:10:15.850 --> 0:10:18.570
<v S2>access to God. And the beautiful thing about prayer is

0:10:18.809 --> 0:10:23.370
<v S2>it's the ultimate level playing field. I mean, princes and paupers,

0:10:23.370 --> 0:10:26.890
<v S2>everyone can go to God in prayer. So how do

0:10:26.890 --> 0:10:31.370
<v S2>we apply this? How do you take this crazy event

0:10:31.370 --> 0:10:34.530
<v S2>from 2000 years ago? And how does this ring true

0:10:34.530 --> 0:10:36.730
<v S2>in our lives today? How do we relate to people?

0:10:36.730 --> 0:10:37.930
<v S2>How does it work, Jim?

0:10:38.050 --> 0:10:40.330
<v S5>Yeah, I think a couple of easy kind of low

0:10:40.370 --> 0:10:42.730
<v S5>hanging fruit kind of things. One is we need to

0:10:42.730 --> 0:10:46.210
<v S5>make sure that our temple is cleansed. And so we

0:10:46.210 --> 0:10:48.849
<v S5>think about the fact that how are we presenting ourselves

0:10:48.850 --> 0:10:51.209
<v S5>to a holy world? Are we living one way and

0:10:51.210 --> 0:10:54.740
<v S5>not saying another and doing another. And so this is

0:10:54.740 --> 0:10:57.460
<v S5>then the challenge in a sense, because this temple should

0:10:57.500 --> 0:10:59.420
<v S5>have been a place for all nations to come and pray.

0:10:59.420 --> 0:11:01.620
<v S5>But it wasn't because they were taking it over for

0:11:01.620 --> 0:11:04.500
<v S5>other things. Is there something we're allowing to take over

0:11:04.500 --> 0:11:07.380
<v S5>our temples that we need to, in a sense, remove?

0:11:07.420 --> 0:11:08.020
<v S2>Good word.

0:11:08.059 --> 0:11:11.580
<v S5>But then also exploitation. Again, we see the heart of

0:11:11.580 --> 0:11:15.500
<v S5>the gospel, the heart for the care, for the underprivileged,

0:11:15.500 --> 0:11:19.420
<v S5>for those who are poor. And they they abuse that.

0:11:19.420 --> 0:11:22.660
<v S5>And that's going to always fall under a clear, you know,

0:11:22.700 --> 0:11:25.500
<v S5>in a sense, in a sense cursing from God because

0:11:25.500 --> 0:11:28.100
<v S5>that's not the way it's supposed to be. And so

0:11:28.100 --> 0:11:30.699
<v S5>I think those two things are really easy things is

0:11:30.700 --> 0:11:33.260
<v S5>what are we doing to, in a sense, make it

0:11:33.260 --> 0:11:38.500
<v S5>more accessible for others who are maybe got challenges to

0:11:38.540 --> 0:11:40.700
<v S5>come to the Lord? And how are we cleansing our

0:11:40.700 --> 0:11:42.020
<v S5>own temples, as it were?

0:11:42.380 --> 0:11:45.420
<v S2>You know, it's interesting because if you look at this

0:11:45.940 --> 0:11:50.420
<v S2>experience of clearing the temple, you see that there's a

0:11:50.660 --> 0:11:55.120
<v S2>ease of Access that a blockade has been put up

0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.320
<v S2>to to all nations. I love your observation. Being on

0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.000
<v S2>the Temple Mount, by the way, and the area for

0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.840
<v S2>the Gentiles now being nudged away because we got to

0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.640
<v S2>make more room to sell sacrifice of pigeons and the

0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:13.560
<v S2>like at an inflated number. But, Jim, it's it's so

0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:18.720
<v S2>easy in our own minds to set up who we

0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:23.560
<v S2>think has access to God, how we look at people.

0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.480
<v S2>And this can be a danger for people that have

0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:30.040
<v S2>been in the church for a lot of years. What

0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:31.640
<v S2>do you say to that? Because it can be a

0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:35.280
<v S2>slow drift where we begin to have a even a

0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:40.680
<v S2>mindset that, okay, this person's in. This person is out

0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:45.360
<v S2>or this person's reachable, this person's not reachable. The beautiful

0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:49.880
<v S2>thing about access to God is whosoever will still may come, right, Jim?

0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.380
<v S5>Yeah. And I think we saw that in your heart

0:12:52.380 --> 0:12:54.820
<v S5>yesterday in your message, where you talked about during a

0:12:54.860 --> 0:12:58.140
<v S5>giving portion. The idea is somebody had given a large

0:12:58.140 --> 0:13:00.500
<v S5>gift and you were glad you did not know who

0:13:00.500 --> 0:13:03.300
<v S5>it was, because it might have a tendency to, in

0:13:03.300 --> 0:13:06.340
<v S5>a sense, you know, give them more access, more favor,

0:13:06.380 --> 0:13:10.219
<v S5>more let their voice speak louder than others. And then

0:13:10.220 --> 0:13:12.940
<v S5>we dealt with, as you know, with another individual who

0:13:12.940 --> 0:13:15.620
<v S5>had some challenges in our church. And, you know, how

0:13:15.620 --> 0:13:17.740
<v S5>do we then in a sense not say, well, I

0:13:17.740 --> 0:13:20.140
<v S5>need to only go to those who have money, who

0:13:20.140 --> 0:13:24.620
<v S5>can help us advance our financial objectives and not really

0:13:24.620 --> 0:13:27.579
<v S5>also display the heart of God loving people who are

0:13:27.580 --> 0:13:30.460
<v S5>broken and need to do 180. So this is a

0:13:30.460 --> 0:13:32.380
<v S5>this is a lesson for all of us to keep

0:13:32.380 --> 0:13:33.660
<v S5>on relearning, isn't it?

0:13:33.700 --> 0:13:36.460
<v S2>Yeah. It's powerful. All right. I'm going to I'm going

0:13:36.500 --> 0:13:40.380
<v S2>to give you an opportunity wide open. As you look

0:13:40.420 --> 0:13:44.060
<v S2>at Holy Week, what is your favorite aspect of Holy Week?

0:13:44.620 --> 0:13:49.220
<v S5>Oh my. There's so many things because I like I

0:13:49.300 --> 0:13:52.430
<v S5>like the, you know, the literary features, the theological features.

0:13:52.429 --> 0:13:55.350
<v S5>Certainly the bookends of anointing is there. But I love

0:13:55.390 --> 0:13:58.870
<v S5>the little incident where, of course, Peter denies Christ three

0:13:58.870 --> 0:14:02.950
<v S5>times by a charcoal fire, and then same word is

0:14:02.950 --> 0:14:04.830
<v S5>used the only time it's used used twice in the

0:14:04.830 --> 0:14:08.350
<v S5>Gospel of John. Charcoal fire. We get to Jesus after

0:14:08.350 --> 0:14:11.630
<v S5>the resurrection, where he's announcing to Peter and asking the question,

0:14:11.670 --> 0:14:13.030
<v S5>do you love me? Do you love me? Do you

0:14:13.030 --> 0:14:16.470
<v S5>love me? Again, that three fold denial, three fold questions.

0:14:16.470 --> 0:14:19.070
<v S5>But what is it that our Lord does? Is he's

0:14:19.070 --> 0:14:23.470
<v S5>preparing a fish breakfast for Peter by a charcoal fire.

0:14:23.470 --> 0:14:26.510
<v S5>And so the place that Peter denied the Lord a

0:14:26.510 --> 0:14:31.070
<v S5>charcoal fire, is the same place that Jesus was restoring Peter.

0:14:31.110 --> 0:14:35.150
<v S5>I mean, that's powerful. That shows again that our our

0:14:35.150 --> 0:14:37.710
<v S5>Lord was focused that week on what he was doing

0:14:38.110 --> 0:14:41.350
<v S5>to minister to his disciples and to us as well.

0:14:42.390 --> 0:14:46.510
<v S2>You know, the amazing thing about Holy Week, Jim, is

0:14:46.550 --> 0:14:52.490
<v S2>it's a golden opportunity for us to consecrate our lives again.

0:14:53.010 --> 0:14:55.650
<v S2>And this isn't just once a year. This is why

0:14:55.650 --> 0:14:59.570
<v S2>I'm not big into I love goals, but ordering our

0:14:59.570 --> 0:15:02.330
<v S2>life in such a way that we live each day

0:15:02.490 --> 0:15:06.370
<v S2>with such a well-ordered life that we're aimed at the

0:15:06.370 --> 0:15:09.850
<v S2>glory of God and the good of others. What a

0:15:09.890 --> 0:15:14.490
<v S2>golden opportunity, though, to prepare for Resurrection Sunday and say,

0:15:14.490 --> 0:15:16.810
<v S2>this is a holy reset in my life and we

0:15:16.810 --> 0:15:20.130
<v S2>can look at all the different teachings. You look at

0:15:20.130 --> 0:15:23.010
<v S2>the life of Judas. God, don't make me one that walk.

0:15:23.050 --> 0:15:26.090
<v S2>Be one that walks away. You look at the the

0:15:26.090 --> 0:15:29.330
<v S2>metaphor of feet. We know that beautiful feet bring good news.

0:15:29.330 --> 0:15:31.810
<v S2>We see the feet of Judas walking away. We see

0:15:31.850 --> 0:15:37.050
<v S2>Jesus washing feet. My goodness, how we walk matters, right, Jim?

0:15:37.090 --> 0:15:39.730
<v S5>Oh, it sure does. And I think that's really, you know,

0:15:39.770 --> 0:15:42.450
<v S5>the beauty that we could spend the rest of our

0:15:42.450 --> 0:15:46.410
<v S5>days just contemplating on just the effects of this week

0:15:46.410 --> 0:15:50.230
<v S5>in terms of our walk. And that's the beauty and sadness, really,

0:15:50.230 --> 0:15:53.510
<v S5>of why we only spend, you know, eight days speaking on,

0:15:53.550 --> 0:15:55.950
<v S5>you know, the death, burial and resurrection and Palm Sunday,

0:15:56.430 --> 0:15:59.390
<v S5>where we have so many more spiritual themes that could

0:15:59.390 --> 0:16:02.230
<v S5>really help us in our daily walk and walking by

0:16:02.230 --> 0:16:06.350
<v S5>the spirit and taking that path along with Jesus. And

0:16:06.350 --> 0:16:08.830
<v S5>I look at the Apostle Paul, he goes through the

0:16:08.830 --> 0:16:13.070
<v S5>same events he's going through, you know, mock trials. He's

0:16:13.070 --> 0:16:15.630
<v S5>having a meal with his, uh, with his friends on

0:16:15.630 --> 0:16:18.470
<v S5>the boat before it's shipwrecked. So it's almost like this

0:16:18.470 --> 0:16:21.310
<v S5>is a pattern, a paradigm for the Christian life. We're

0:16:21.310 --> 0:16:23.430
<v S5>going to go through persecution. We're going to go through

0:16:23.430 --> 0:16:26.430
<v S5>things just like our Lord did. But the gospel goes forth.

0:16:26.430 --> 0:16:28.110
<v S5>I love the last verse of the book of acts.

0:16:28.110 --> 0:16:32.070
<v S5>It goes forth unhindered. Uh, and that's the beauty of

0:16:32.070 --> 0:16:34.430
<v S5>why we go through these things and remember what our

0:16:34.430 --> 0:16:35.750
<v S5>Lord did in this Holy Week.

0:16:35.790 --> 0:16:40.990
<v S2>Love it. Okay. Final question. What's the fresh thing God's

0:16:40.990 --> 0:16:44.630
<v S2>doing in Doctor Jim Coakley's life right now?

0:16:44.670 --> 0:16:47.990
<v S5>Oh, uh, again, uh, I just dealt with this just

0:16:47.990 --> 0:16:51.120
<v S5>over the weekend, my wife realized I was spending a

0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.520
<v S5>little more time on an app that I shouldn't have.

0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.120
<v S5>And it wasn't bad. It was just a game. But

0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.560
<v S5>I just realized it was taking time away from from

0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.880
<v S5>her and from things I need to be focused on. No,

0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.920
<v S5>I need to have some, you know, outlets and some recreation.

0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.480
<v S5>But it's the idea I need to have more healthy ones.

0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.560
<v S5>And so again, I'm just like everyone else. I need

0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.160
<v S5>to constantly revisit those kind of things.

0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.159
<v S2>That's healthy to hear. I think everyone breathes a sigh

0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.280
<v S2>of relief like, oh, good. If Doctor Jim's getting on

0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.880
<v S2>a game a little bit long, that's that's you know what, Jim?

0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.240
<v S2>I thank you for being vulnerable like that because I

0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:31.600
<v S2>think sometimes we can give people a facade, unintended facade,

0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:32.600
<v S2>you know what I mean, Jim?

0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:33.040
<v S5>Yes.

0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.000
<v S2>And we need to let people know we're all on

0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.840
<v S2>this path of discipleship.

0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:40.719
<v S5>And I shared that with a young guy at our

0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.679
<v S5>church yesterday. Just did, you know. Yeah, I shared it,

0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.560
<v S5>you know, and so I shared it with with Caleb.

0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.379
<v S5>And he was I could just see him, him kind

0:17:49.380 --> 0:17:52.660
<v S5>of just smiling because, you know, he realizes that. Yeah.

0:17:52.700 --> 0:17:54.300
<v S5>I mean, these are challenges we're going to face the

0:17:54.300 --> 0:17:55.220
<v S5>rest of our life.

0:17:55.500 --> 0:17:58.939
<v S2>I love it. Doctor Jim Coakley Oh, by the way,

0:17:59.300 --> 0:18:02.380
<v S2>if you want a phenomenal I, I'm going to I'm

0:18:02.420 --> 0:18:05.420
<v S2>going to plug this one because my wife says it

0:18:05.420 --> 0:18:07.140
<v S2>is the book. I don't know if we got this

0:18:07.140 --> 0:18:10.580
<v S2>link ready to go. We do super day. Okay. This book,

0:18:10.619 --> 0:18:15.620
<v S2>my bride says, is the book that has had more

0:18:15.619 --> 0:18:21.540
<v S2>impact of her understanding how the Bible fits together and

0:18:21.540 --> 0:18:25.540
<v S2>seeing things as she reads that she had never seen before.

0:18:25.660 --> 0:18:28.180
<v S2>They're great. Yeah. Isn't that terrific? But.

0:18:28.220 --> 0:18:30.540
<v S5>So, thinking about Holy Week, I was thinking of these

0:18:30.540 --> 0:18:32.940
<v S5>same techniques all the way through. And, you know, out

0:18:32.980 --> 0:18:36.380
<v S5>of order. And, you know, again, time management, all these

0:18:36.380 --> 0:18:39.060
<v S5>things that are principles in the book are really at

0:18:39.060 --> 0:18:40.300
<v S5>play in this Holy Week.

0:18:40.340 --> 0:18:43.100
<v S2>Yeah. Beautiful. All right. Super guy. How do the folks

0:18:43.100 --> 0:18:45.500
<v S2>get a link for a resource that might fuel their

0:18:45.500 --> 0:18:47.200
<v S2>Bible reading like it did my bride.

0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:50.080
<v S3>Text the word fresh. That word fresh will get him

0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:52.600
<v S3>the link to 14 Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible.

0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.200
<v S3>So the word will be fresh. That number again is

0:18:55.200 --> 0:19:00.159
<v S3>805 five, five, 78, 98. And you'll be texting the

0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:01.480
<v S3>word fresh.

0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:05.320
<v S1>Do you feel stuck or paralyzed? Are you ready to

0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:10.080
<v S1>break free? Here are your questions answered. It's time for

0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:11.560
<v S1>ask Pastor Carl.

0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:18.639
<v S2>The issues cited in a little note that I received.

0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:20.080
<v S2>And we're going to give you the portal how to

0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:25.040
<v S2>get in your questions about discipleship, overcoming stuff, anything to

0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.239
<v S2>help you take your next step with Jesus. That's what

0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.120
<v S2>I'm tackling here Monday mornings. Bottom of the hour. And

0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:34.240
<v S2>this is you know, this is a very typical type

0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.960
<v S2>of email that I would get. So I protect your

0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:40.520
<v S2>identity here. But Pastor Carl, my heart is broken. I'm

0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:44.320
<v S2>having such a hard time healing. I feel like it's

0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.810
<v S2>never going to happen. I'm trying, but all my baby

0:19:47.810 --> 0:19:51.010
<v S2>steps don't feel like enough. Here's the cliff notes to

0:19:51.050 --> 0:19:54.490
<v S2>my story. I'll protect identity here a little bit. I

0:19:54.530 --> 0:19:57.210
<v S2>got divorced a year ago. I was married 20 years,

0:19:57.250 --> 0:20:01.330
<v S2>and during that time my ex-husband was abusive. Abusive in

0:20:01.330 --> 0:20:04.130
<v S2>almost every way. But for me, the worst was the

0:20:04.130 --> 0:20:09.730
<v S2>verbal and psychological abuse. It changed me. Now there's little

0:20:09.730 --> 0:20:11.650
<v S2>themes in here I'm going to pick up on. Okay.

0:20:12.450 --> 0:20:14.730
<v S2>I wish I could say that it made me stronger,

0:20:14.730 --> 0:20:17.650
<v S2>but that would be a lie. It made me fragile.

0:20:17.690 --> 0:20:21.570
<v S2>It completely unraveled the very fabric of who I was.

0:20:22.770 --> 0:20:25.090
<v S2>I thought that after the divorce, things would get better.

0:20:25.090 --> 0:20:27.290
<v S2>But that hasn't been the case in the last year.

0:20:27.290 --> 0:20:30.290
<v S2>I've dealt with the death of my marriage, the trauma

0:20:30.290 --> 0:20:35.410
<v S2>and all the abuse and my ex dating, getting engaged

0:20:35.410 --> 0:20:39.130
<v S2>in just a in a few weeks, getting remarried. Oh,

0:20:39.170 --> 0:20:42.890
<v S2>you can feel it, can't you guys? Yeah, I've been

0:20:42.890 --> 0:20:46.270
<v S2>reading my Bible, though. I struggled to get it done

0:20:46.270 --> 0:20:49.950
<v S2>some days I've been doing a lot. All caps of praying.

0:20:49.990 --> 0:20:55.350
<v S2>I listen to messages. I've gotten some counsel. Been in therapy,

0:20:55.630 --> 0:21:02.149
<v S2>worked out, and tried unsuccessfully to even eat healthier. I've

0:21:02.150 --> 0:21:07.109
<v S2>done all the stupid positive affirmations that never work. But

0:21:07.109 --> 0:21:09.750
<v S2>despite all my efforts and all my baby steps, I'm

0:21:09.750 --> 0:21:13.710
<v S2>still broke and traumatized and have no self-esteem. I don't

0:21:13.710 --> 0:21:16.590
<v S2>feel like I've been healed at all. I feel stuck

0:21:16.590 --> 0:21:20.709
<v S2>in this place of mourning and self-hatred. Pastor Carl, how

0:21:20.710 --> 0:21:25.350
<v S2>do I heal? How do I start thinking positively about myself?

0:21:25.430 --> 0:21:28.189
<v S2>How do I get unstuck and move into what God

0:21:28.190 --> 0:21:31.470
<v S2>has planned for the next chapter of my story? Thanks

0:21:31.470 --> 0:21:34.429
<v S2>for listening. And then her name. Sister, we love you.

0:21:35.070 --> 0:21:38.670
<v S2>And my heart breaks for you. I want to tell

0:21:38.670 --> 0:21:41.870
<v S2>you a couple of things that are pretty unconventional here.

0:21:41.869 --> 0:21:47.690
<v S2>First off. First off, You having some a little bit

0:21:47.690 --> 0:21:53.330
<v S2>of indignation about your ex-husband sauntering off into a new marriage?

0:21:53.330 --> 0:22:00.290
<v S2>That is normal. That is okay. And you know what

0:22:00.290 --> 0:22:04.129
<v S2>I want to tell you in Imprecatory prayer might be

0:22:04.130 --> 0:22:06.889
<v S2>in order here. What's an imprecatory prayer? We find it

0:22:06.890 --> 0:22:11.409
<v S2>all over the Psalms. We find Psalms that say, God,

0:22:12.450 --> 0:22:16.050
<v S2>the pit that they've dug for me. Let them fall

0:22:16.050 --> 0:22:20.610
<v S2>in it. God, the the thing that I'm up against

0:22:20.609 --> 0:22:25.090
<v S2>right now. God, you see it? Would you please make

0:22:25.090 --> 0:22:30.050
<v S2>the wrongs right? And there's an interesting Psalm. I don't

0:22:30.050 --> 0:22:31.689
<v S2>have it open right now. Let me flip to it

0:22:31.690 --> 0:22:36.609
<v S2>here really quickly. Psalm 112. This is you ready for

0:22:36.609 --> 0:22:40.770
<v S2>this man? This is. This is the way to. I

0:22:40.770 --> 0:22:44.550
<v S2>know this sounds crazy. This is the way to get

0:22:44.550 --> 0:22:48.229
<v S2>back at spiritual knuckleheads that you've had in your life.

0:22:48.350 --> 0:22:52.190
<v S2>This is the way to get back. Psalm 112. Listen

0:22:52.190 --> 0:22:54.230
<v S2>to this. Praise the Lord! Blessed is the man who

0:22:54.230 --> 0:22:57.910
<v S2>fears the Lord, who greatly delights in his commandments. His

0:22:57.950 --> 0:23:00.389
<v S2>offspring will be mighty in the land. The generation of

0:23:00.390 --> 0:23:03.070
<v S2>the upright will be blessed. Wealth and riches are in

0:23:03.070 --> 0:23:07.350
<v S2>his house, and his righteousness endures forever. Light dawns in

0:23:07.350 --> 0:23:10.910
<v S2>the darkness for the upright. He is gracious, merciful, and righteous.

0:23:11.590 --> 0:23:14.109
<v S2>It is well with the man who deals generously and lends,

0:23:14.109 --> 0:23:17.390
<v S2>who conducts his affairs with justice. This all this is

0:23:17.390 --> 0:23:21.630
<v S2>saying is keep walking rightly. Order your life to do

0:23:21.630 --> 0:23:24.950
<v S2>the right thing no matter what. For the righteous will

0:23:24.950 --> 0:23:28.310
<v S2>never be moved. He will be remembered forever. He's not

0:23:28.310 --> 0:23:31.110
<v S2>afraid of bad news. His heart, his firm trusting in

0:23:31.109 --> 0:23:33.350
<v S2>the Lord. His heart is steady. He will not be

0:23:33.350 --> 0:23:38.830
<v S2>afraid until he looks in triumph on his adversaries. He

0:23:38.830 --> 0:23:42.270
<v S2>has distributed freely. He has given to the poor. He is.

0:23:42.510 --> 0:23:46.919
<v S2>His righteousness endures forever. His horn is exalted. Look at

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:50.280
<v S2>the payoff. Verse ten. Last verse. The wicked man sees

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.280
<v S2>it in his anger. He gnashes his teeth and melts away.

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:58.240
<v S2>The desire of the wicked will perish. The best way

0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:04.680
<v S2>to deal with the pain of adversaries, even in this

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:10.680
<v S2>case an ex-husband, is to outlive them. Now you might say,

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:14.080
<v S2>and she said, I'm worse off for all of this.

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:20.600
<v S2>I'm not okay. This trial hasn't made me mature and complete,

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.640
<v S2>lacking in nothing. Like we find in James one two

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:27.360
<v S2>through four. Here's what I would say. This is the

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:31.600
<v S2>lost art because I hear a thread in what you're saying, sister,

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:36.600
<v S2>and the thread is a lot of getting busy reading

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:40.360
<v S2>the Bible, going to church, doing a lot of praying,

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:46.659
<v S2>listening to The messages gotten wise counsel doing all the

0:24:46.900 --> 0:24:52.860
<v S2>stupid her quote stupid positive affirmations that never work and

0:24:52.859 --> 0:24:56.980
<v S2>I couldn't agree with you more. Here's what I would say. First,

0:24:57.740 --> 0:25:05.340
<v S2>David got down. I mean discouraged, he was so discouraged

0:25:05.340 --> 0:25:11.020
<v S2>he was panting like a deer for flowing streams of water.

0:25:13.260 --> 0:25:18.980
<v S2>His tears were his food day and night. Yeah. Salty tears.

0:25:21.940 --> 0:25:27.580
<v S2>And those tears were screaming one thing. Where's your God? Whoa!

0:25:30.180 --> 0:25:32.620
<v S2>These things I remember as I pour out my soul.

0:25:34.859 --> 0:25:39.580
<v S2>And then he speaks to himself. Why are you so downcast?

0:25:39.580 --> 0:25:43.600
<v S2>Oh my soul. And why are you in turmoil within me?

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:48.400
<v S2>Hope in God, for I shall again praise him, my

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:54.000
<v S2>salvation and my God. My soul is cast down within me.

0:25:54.000 --> 0:26:03.000
<v S2>Therefore I remember you from the land of Jordan. Deep

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:07.840
<v S2>calls to deep as the roar of your waterfalls. All

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:14.879
<v S2>your breakers and your waves have gone over me. Here's

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:17.320
<v S2>what a lost art in our world today. In fact,

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.320
<v S2>I had a young man come up to me and

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:24.480
<v S2>said yesterday, he said, that thing that you said about

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:28.120
<v S2>spending five minutes alone with God in the morning just

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:31.800
<v S2>to hear him, not to talk to him, just to

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:36.760
<v S2>hear him. Is one of the greatest things I've ever

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:40.200
<v S2>done in my life. Just a young man. Here's what

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:44.010
<v S2>I need you to hear. I need you to sit

0:26:44.010 --> 0:26:47.850
<v S2>alone with God early in the morning. Pour out your

0:26:47.850 --> 0:26:52.730
<v S2>heart to him and be silent. I want you to

0:26:52.770 --> 0:26:56.290
<v S2>have armed yourself before you sit down alone with him,

0:26:56.650 --> 0:27:04.570
<v S2>with passages of his goodness. The fact that he sees

0:27:04.570 --> 0:27:10.450
<v S2>your pain. The fact that he knows what you're going through,

0:27:11.770 --> 0:27:17.050
<v S2>his providence, his love, the faithfulness of God cited all

0:27:17.050 --> 0:27:21.090
<v S2>the way through the scriptures. And then gently, in the

0:27:21.090 --> 0:27:27.330
<v S2>quietness of the dark, say, my soul is downcast. Lord,

0:27:27.330 --> 0:27:30.570
<v S2>help me with the grace to put my trust in you.

0:27:33.530 --> 0:27:38.409
<v S2>Whether you feel far away or close by, my soul

0:27:38.690 --> 0:27:45.190
<v S2>magnifies Nafis, you begin to rehearse the truth of God's power,

0:27:45.869 --> 0:27:53.750
<v S2>his providence, his goodness. Is it hard? It's hard. But

0:27:53.750 --> 0:27:57.469
<v S2>I am encouraged when I get into moments of deep discouragement.

0:27:58.030 --> 0:28:02.990
<v S2>And I do that. David had a downcast soul and

0:28:02.990 --> 0:28:07.630
<v S2>he spoke to it. Put your hope in God. It's

0:28:07.630 --> 0:28:11.670
<v S2>not hope in Bible reading. It's not hope in doing

0:28:11.670 --> 0:28:15.830
<v S2>lots of praying or talking with God. It's listening to him.

0:28:16.950 --> 0:28:21.910
<v S2>It's a lost art. Spending time alone with God. Let

0:28:21.910 --> 0:28:25.350
<v S2>the tears fall. It might be your breakfast that day,

0:28:25.350 --> 0:28:29.390
<v S2>but I'm convinced God will feed your soul. That's what

0:28:29.390 --> 0:28:34.950
<v S2>David said. It's one other thing I want to add.

0:28:35.750 --> 0:28:40.570
<v S2>Get with a friend or two, please. Leaves, get with

0:28:40.570 --> 0:28:44.810
<v S2>a friend or two. Have someone who can bear those

0:28:44.810 --> 0:28:49.610
<v S2>burdens with you, weep with you, and encourage you and

0:28:49.610 --> 0:28:51.050
<v S2>point you back to God.

0:28:51.570 --> 0:28:56.170
<v S1>She's a choreographer extraordinaire and everything is Greek to her.

0:28:56.570 --> 0:29:00.330
<v S1>Super die is in the crew. It's Carl and crew

0:29:00.330 --> 0:29:01.610
<v S1>on Moody Radio.

0:29:01.930 --> 0:29:04.690
<v S2>Even the Windex bottle, it's all Greek to her.

0:29:04.730 --> 0:29:05.490
<v S3>Everything.

0:29:05.530 --> 0:29:09.450
<v S2>Every bit of it is Greek to her. Okay, I

0:29:09.450 --> 0:29:11.450
<v S2>want to break something down for you. We've got a

0:29:11.490 --> 0:29:15.010
<v S2>golden opportunity in me and super dire. Yeah, we're buddies

0:29:15.010 --> 0:29:18.650
<v S2>on this one, aren't we, kiddo? Resurrection Sunday?

0:29:18.690 --> 0:29:20.890
<v S3>Absolutely my favorite.

0:29:21.290 --> 0:29:23.530
<v S2>Isn't it the best day of the year?

0:29:24.250 --> 0:29:25.170
<v S3>The best.

0:29:25.210 --> 0:29:25.850
<v S2>It's better.

0:29:26.130 --> 0:29:26.490
<v S3>Week.

0:29:26.850 --> 0:29:30.130
<v S2>I know some of you are Christmas hounds. I get that, but.

0:29:31.370 --> 0:29:33.290
<v S4>Well, the thing about Christmas, I was going to say

0:29:33.330 --> 0:29:38.610
<v S4>the the Christmas holiday is setting up for what happens

0:29:38.700 --> 0:29:42.700
<v S4>this Sunday. I mean, we're celebrating because Jesus is here

0:29:43.020 --> 0:29:46.540
<v S4>and he's going to do the thing that he does

0:29:46.540 --> 0:29:48.540
<v S4>this upcoming Sunday. Yeah.

0:29:48.940 --> 0:29:51.700
<v S2>And by the way, Christmas, when did it find out

0:29:51.700 --> 0:29:55.500
<v S2>when it was first celebrated? It's relatively new compared to

0:29:55.540 --> 0:29:57.900
<v S2>celebrating the resurrection of Christ.

0:29:57.940 --> 0:29:58.460
<v S4>Oh, yeah.

0:29:58.780 --> 0:30:01.060
<v S2>Boy, the keys are in there. There's fire coming off

0:30:01.060 --> 0:30:03.140
<v S2>those things right now. He's burning.

0:30:03.460 --> 0:30:03.660
<v S3>On.

0:30:03.660 --> 0:30:04.660
<v S2>It. You already got.

0:30:04.660 --> 0:30:05.780
<v S4>It. 336 A.D..

0:30:05.820 --> 0:30:07.979
<v S2>I was going to guess 400, so I was off

0:30:07.980 --> 0:30:08.660
<v S2>70 years.

0:30:08.700 --> 0:30:09.540
<v S4>That's pretty good.

0:30:09.820 --> 0:30:13.940
<v S2>Um, it's it's interesting because. Yeah, 300 years. Those poor

0:30:13.940 --> 0:30:16.900
<v S2>kids never got to get up on Christmas Day.

0:30:17.340 --> 0:30:18.060
<v S4>What a bummer.

0:30:18.260 --> 0:30:22.460
<v S2>For 300 years, they never, never had Christmas. But. But

0:30:22.460 --> 0:30:23.540
<v S2>they had Easter.

0:30:23.860 --> 0:30:24.219
<v S3>Easter.

0:30:24.740 --> 0:30:27.459
<v S2>And and that's the point. Listen, here's here's. And I

0:30:27.460 --> 0:30:30.820
<v S2>love Christmas. So don't be thinking that now I love Christmas,

0:30:31.060 --> 0:30:36.980
<v S2>but Easter. Resurrection Sunday. Are you kidding me? This is

0:30:36.980 --> 0:30:39.000
<v S2>the day for a holy reset. Let me give you

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:42.120
<v S2>some fuel for your belly. Titus two I love this passage.

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.400
<v S2>Verse 11 and 12 for the grace of God has appeared,

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:50.480
<v S2>bringing salvation for all people, training us to renounce ungodliness

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:57.560
<v S2>and worldly passions. And to live self-controlled, upright and godly

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:02.120
<v S2>lives in this present age. I want you to make

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:07.320
<v S2>Resurrection Sunday a holy reset. I want you on Friday

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:09.600
<v S2>to nail to the cross. And we're actually going to

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:11.760
<v S2>be doing this at one in Chicago at our Good

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:16.200
<v S2>Friday service. I just gave away something that's going to

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:22.560
<v S2>be an incredible treat. We're going to be nailing to

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:26.640
<v S2>the cross symbolically, not only the sins of the past,

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:30.400
<v S2>but even the battles of the present. And we're going

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:35.600
<v S2>to be believing God for resurrection power. Why? Because the

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.740
<v S2>tomb is empty and his grace has graces appeared, training

0:31:38.740 --> 0:31:45.740
<v S2>us to renounce ungodliness. Worldly passions and to live self-controlled,

0:31:45.740 --> 0:31:49.340
<v S2>upright and godly lives in this present age, waiting for

0:31:49.340 --> 0:31:51.820
<v S2>our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our

0:31:51.820 --> 0:31:57.180
<v S2>great God and Savior, Jesus Christ. Wow. See, Resurrection Sunday

0:31:57.180 --> 0:32:02.860
<v S2>is a day when you can say, God, I renew

0:32:02.900 --> 0:32:08.420
<v S2>my commitment to you. Get anything ungodly out of me.

0:32:08.780 --> 0:32:13.260
<v S2>Worldly passions squared away. Give me self control. Help me

0:32:13.260 --> 0:32:19.140
<v S2>live upright and godly in this present age. Watch what

0:32:19.180 --> 0:32:24.700
<v S2>God can do. Make it true of you this Resurrection Sunday.

0:32:24.740 --> 0:32:28.340
<v S1>Do you feel stuck or paralyzed? Are you ready to

0:32:28.380 --> 0:32:33.540
<v S1>break free? Hear your questions answered. It's time for ask,

0:32:33.540 --> 0:32:34.580
<v S1>Pastor Carl.

0:32:35.340 --> 0:32:38.110
<v S2>All right, boom crew. I need you to know something

0:32:38.110 --> 0:32:42.430
<v S2>I want to. I don't care how long I'm here

0:32:42.430 --> 0:32:45.470
<v S2>on radio. Monday mornings at the bottom of the hour.

0:32:45.510 --> 0:32:48.390
<v S2>I want this to become a place where we get

0:32:48.390 --> 0:32:51.870
<v S2>after it like we haven't even yet. What do I mean?

0:32:53.550 --> 0:32:55.510
<v S2>Our commitment here is to help you take your next

0:32:55.510 --> 0:32:59.390
<v S2>step with Jesus. I've learned some stuff about discipleship over

0:32:59.390 --> 0:33:04.430
<v S2>the over over the years. I'm mainly the school of

0:33:04.430 --> 0:33:08.870
<v S2>hard knocks. I've got sacred scholars all over my body,

0:33:09.950 --> 0:33:14.230
<v S2>physically and in my heart. Sacred scars are beautiful things,

0:33:14.230 --> 0:33:16.630
<v S2>and some of you still have wounds, and God wants

0:33:16.630 --> 0:33:19.510
<v S2>to take those wounds and turn them into sacred scars.

0:33:19.510 --> 0:33:22.710
<v S2>Isn't that kind of a cool metaphor? Um, so here's

0:33:22.710 --> 0:33:25.670
<v S2>what I want you to do. As we give you

0:33:25.670 --> 0:33:27.550
<v S2>a link here, I want us to and we're going

0:33:27.550 --> 0:33:29.070
<v S2>to do this. I'm going to answer a question here

0:33:29.070 --> 0:33:30.350
<v S2>in a moment, but I want to give you a

0:33:30.350 --> 0:33:32.350
<v S2>link right now because I want to banner ad this.

0:33:32.350 --> 0:33:36.209
<v S2>I want to get after these questions of not the

0:33:36.210 --> 0:33:38.890
<v S2>hypostatic union, and not how many angels can fit on

0:33:38.890 --> 0:33:40.970
<v S2>the needle on the pin of a needle or anything

0:33:40.970 --> 0:33:45.010
<v S2>like that. That's that's Michael Ray Dolnick stuff on Open Line. Um,

0:33:45.010 --> 0:33:48.810
<v S2>but what I want to get after here is discipleship questions.

0:33:48.810 --> 0:33:52.690
<v S2>What's got you stuck? How do you overcome? What's holding

0:33:52.690 --> 0:33:55.050
<v S2>you back? What sin are you battling with that you

0:33:55.050 --> 0:33:58.650
<v S2>need victory on? And I'm going to tackle these things

0:33:58.650 --> 0:34:02.810
<v S2>head on. And and I'm going to protect your identity

0:34:02.810 --> 0:34:04.730
<v S2>as I'm about to with a letter that came in

0:34:04.730 --> 0:34:06.290
<v S2>to me here. And it doesn't need to be a

0:34:06.290 --> 0:34:08.090
<v S2>long letter. It can be a few sentences, but if

0:34:08.130 --> 0:34:12.129
<v S2>you've got questions related to discipleship, I want to get

0:34:12.130 --> 0:34:14.529
<v S2>after them. Now, some of them come in and they're

0:34:14.530 --> 0:34:17.330
<v S2>so similar I try to bundle them together. And so

0:34:17.370 --> 0:34:19.529
<v S2>I'm there's no way I'm going to respond to these

0:34:19.570 --> 0:34:24.490
<v S2>emails personally, but I will on air. Okay. And so

0:34:24.489 --> 0:34:27.650
<v S2>get them in knowing generally speaking, there's a lot of

0:34:27.650 --> 0:34:30.170
<v S2>people struggling with something. You are super di. How do

0:34:30.170 --> 0:34:31.210
<v S2>they get questions in here?

0:34:31.250 --> 0:34:34.810
<v S3>Real simple. Get those questions in by texting the word pastor.

0:34:34.910 --> 0:34:39.950
<v S3>takes the word pastor to 800 555 7898. The word

0:34:39.950 --> 0:34:44.989
<v S3>is pastor and the number is 805 five five 7898.

0:34:45.110 --> 0:34:46.630
<v S3>The info will come right to your phone.

0:34:46.670 --> 0:34:50.070
<v S2>Yeah. Okay. Carl. Pastor Carl, I listen to you daily

0:34:50.070 --> 0:34:54.350
<v S2>on Moody in the morning. Thank you. First off, I

0:34:54.390 --> 0:34:56.910
<v S2>listen to your story of your walk with Christ. It

0:34:56.910 --> 0:34:59.390
<v S2>brings me so much joy because I feel there is

0:34:59.430 --> 0:35:01.669
<v S2>hope for my son going to leave his name out.

0:35:01.710 --> 0:35:05.310
<v S2>See how honoring I am here, guys. He is so

0:35:05.350 --> 0:35:11.750
<v S2>lost with anxiety and rebellion. He's such a wonderful kid,

0:35:11.790 --> 0:35:19.750
<v S2>young man who has so many struggles with life in school, loss, anxiety.

0:35:20.110 --> 0:35:22.310
<v S2>I know he now this is where I want you

0:35:22.310 --> 0:35:25.629
<v S2>to listen closely. I know he knows Christ, but he

0:35:25.630 --> 0:35:28.110
<v S2>is so far from him. He has gone to Christian

0:35:28.110 --> 0:35:32.150
<v S2>schools his whole life. Sitting in chapel. I have prayed

0:35:32.150 --> 0:35:35.239
<v S2>over this young man, but some days I see no hope.

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:38.360
<v S2>My heart breaks for you and I feel your pain.

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:42.680
<v S2>It's hard. Would you please pray for. Gives her boy

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.600
<v S2>his name. And I will to come to the end

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:50.320
<v S2>of himself. To give his life fully to God. Blessings

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:53.840
<v S2>from a mother whose heart is breaking for her son. Okay,

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:56.839
<v S2>so I'm not going to mention the woman's name here,

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:58.560
<v S2>but I want to talk to you, sister and all

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:02.000
<v S2>you other sisters and brothers who feel the same thing.

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.960
<v S2>I hammered this last Friday and I'm going to get

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:10.560
<v S2>after it again. I want you to be clear on something.

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:15.240
<v S2>Being in church or a Christian school, or going to

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:20.480
<v S2>a youth group or all these different spiritual activities are

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:28.640
<v S2>zero indicator that your kid is in Christ, zero that

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:32.080
<v S2>that has nothing to do with it. Now we talk

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:36.900
<v S2>a lot about Matthew seven here. But preaching in the

0:36:36.900 --> 0:36:39.379
<v S2>name of Jesus, baptizing in the name of Jesus, and

0:36:39.380 --> 0:36:43.380
<v S2>doing mighty works in the Jesus, did not pre-qualify any

0:36:43.380 --> 0:36:46.900
<v S2>one to go to heaven, because Jesus said to many

0:36:46.940 --> 0:36:50.779
<v S2>who would say that I never knew you. Okay. And plus,

0:36:50.780 --> 0:36:55.180
<v S2>the goal here isn't getting fire insurance so that you

0:36:55.219 --> 0:36:58.299
<v S2>avoid hell. The goal here is the abundant life. So

0:36:58.300 --> 0:37:01.540
<v S2>this mom's barking up the right tree. There's a presumption

0:37:01.540 --> 0:37:05.980
<v S2>that we make that is often flawed, and that is

0:37:05.980 --> 0:37:11.020
<v S2>that going to church and even having indications of maybe

0:37:11.020 --> 0:37:13.940
<v S2>even getting baptized. We got a baptism coming up at

0:37:13.940 --> 0:37:16.859
<v S2>180 Chicago, and I had a precious girl come up

0:37:16.860 --> 0:37:20.180
<v S2>to me that's just begun following Jesus six months ago,

0:37:20.180 --> 0:37:24.060
<v S2>raised in a in a tradition that she got baptized

0:37:24.100 --> 0:37:28.660
<v S2>young and with tears in her eyes from another country.

0:37:29.420 --> 0:37:32.020
<v S2>She says, pastor, I need to get baptized. I said,

0:37:32.020 --> 0:37:37.719
<v S2>you do. awesome because now she is a repentant follower

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:41.839
<v S2>of Jesus Christ. So here's what I would say. I

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.960
<v S2>had Sean McDowell on with me when I was guest

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:48.840
<v S2>hosting for Chris Brooks last week, and he said something profound.

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:56.480
<v S2>He has asked, anecdotally, 30 adult kids that were raised

0:37:56.480 --> 0:38:02.200
<v S2>in the church to great parents. Imperfect but great parents.

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:05.360
<v S2>Please don't wear this. Your kid has their own free will.

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:10.799
<v S2>Don't condemn yourself. Own anything you can own, but don't

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:14.680
<v S2>condemn yourself. And he asked 30 kids, have you? Did

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.680
<v S2>you ever come to the point in your life where

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:21.560
<v S2>you were broken over your sin and you repented of

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.840
<v S2>it because you knew you needed a Savior? Only one

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:30.560
<v S2>responded yes, out of 30. Doctor Sean McDowell is a

0:38:31.250 --> 0:38:35.730
<v S2>Apologists who deals with issues of today in profound ways.

0:38:35.730 --> 0:38:43.970
<v S2>He's Josh's son. Great kid. That further undergirds my firm

0:38:43.969 --> 0:38:49.130
<v S2>belief that many kids that we're praying to get fully

0:38:49.410 --> 0:38:56.730
<v S2>alive in Christ have never been alive in Christ. Am

0:38:56.730 --> 0:38:59.129
<v S2>I saying that or all are in that group? No,

0:38:59.130 --> 0:39:02.330
<v S2>I would say there is the one out there out

0:39:02.370 --> 0:39:06.330
<v S2>of 30, but I think that's a good rule of thumb.

0:39:08.810 --> 0:39:11.649
<v S2>Given the preponderance of evidence. And look at the ten

0:39:11.650 --> 0:39:17.530
<v S2>virgins in what Matthew 25, the ten virgins waiting for

0:39:17.810 --> 0:39:21.689
<v S2>the groom to come. They're all dressed up the same.

0:39:21.690 --> 0:39:23.730
<v S2>They all got lamps in their hand. Only five of

0:39:23.730 --> 0:39:26.650
<v S2>the ten have oil in their lamps. The other five

0:39:26.650 --> 0:39:30.490
<v S2>didn't have. And I believe it's representative of the Holy

0:39:30.489 --> 0:39:34.310
<v S2>Spirit filling their life. They were not alive. They had

0:39:34.310 --> 0:39:39.989
<v S2>no light. They had no juice for light. So here's

0:39:39.989 --> 0:39:41.589
<v S2>what I want you to do. I'm going to give

0:39:41.590 --> 0:39:44.830
<v S2>a resource out that is very important. Calling all parents

0:39:44.830 --> 0:39:50.230
<v S2>with kids that you want them to be fully alive

0:39:50.230 --> 0:39:53.230
<v S2>in Christ. You might need to be praying that they

0:39:53.230 --> 0:39:59.670
<v S2>would come alive in Christ. There is undeniable zeal to

0:39:59.670 --> 0:40:03.910
<v S2>be plugged into the church. When you are plugged into Christ,

0:40:04.590 --> 0:40:07.910
<v S2>and Christ is in you. So I want you to

0:40:07.950 --> 0:40:11.630
<v S2>grab this resource, and I want and I'm going to

0:40:11.630 --> 0:40:14.069
<v S2>keep hammering this more and more because it's something we

0:40:14.110 --> 0:40:17.950
<v S2>got to get after the it's it's titled nine Ways

0:40:17.950 --> 0:40:20.189
<v S2>to Know You stand with God and he stands with you.

0:40:20.190 --> 0:40:22.989
<v S2>And this is why it's such a great tool for parents.

0:40:23.190 --> 0:40:26.670
<v S2>You can use this. And by the way, people that say, oh,

0:40:26.670 --> 0:40:30.469
<v S2>I'm not supposed to be looking at fruit baloney. Of

0:40:30.530 --> 0:40:35.850
<v S2>course you are one for expressing judgment. No. To love

0:40:35.850 --> 0:40:40.330
<v S2>people well. And if you look at this, you'll see characteristics,

0:40:40.330 --> 0:40:44.570
<v S2>although imperfect, but are characteristic of men and women who

0:40:44.730 --> 0:40:50.290
<v S2>are in Christ. Men and women. Boys and girls. So

0:40:50.330 --> 0:40:53.930
<v S2>look at it. Pray through it. If this is not

0:40:53.930 --> 0:40:59.689
<v S2>characteristic of your kid, start praying that they would. Be

0:40:59.690 --> 0:41:06.290
<v S2>found by Jesus. More than fully committed to Jesus. Because

0:41:06.290 --> 0:41:09.129
<v S2>you can only be fully committed to. And I would

0:41:09.130 --> 0:41:13.370
<v S2>call that the sanctification process. You can only be fully

0:41:13.370 --> 0:41:17.770
<v S2>committed to someone that you are first born into. So

0:41:17.810 --> 0:41:18.969
<v S2>take it away, somebody.

0:41:19.050 --> 0:41:22.010
<v S3>Yeah. The title again Carl's talking there. That blog nine

0:41:22.010 --> 0:41:25.050
<v S3>Ways to know that you stand with God and God

0:41:25.050 --> 0:41:27.930
<v S3>stands with you. We'll get that to you. Just text

0:41:27.930 --> 0:41:34.779
<v S3>the word stand. The word is stand to 805, 55, 78, 98.

0:41:34.820 --> 0:41:41.060
<v S3>Text the word stand 805, 55, 78, 98.

0:41:41.500 --> 0:41:42.980
<v S2>You know, we had a text that came in while

0:41:42.980 --> 0:41:46.700
<v S2>I was sharing the story, said, I'm a grandmother raising

0:41:46.739 --> 0:41:50.940
<v S2>two grandsons. I'm experiencing the same as that. Mother, please

0:41:50.940 --> 0:41:54.060
<v S2>pray for my grandson. I'm not going to say the name.

0:41:54.660 --> 0:41:57.900
<v S2>We will. So, father, these two young men that are

0:41:57.940 --> 0:41:59.740
<v S2>have been brought to our hearts this morning, we pray.

0:41:59.739 --> 0:42:03.420
<v S2>And for these that are grabbing this blog right now,

0:42:03.580 --> 0:42:10.740
<v S2>this represents hundreds, maybe thousands of kids the parents long

0:42:10.900 --> 0:42:14.020
<v S2>to see born again. Lord, we pray right now in

0:42:14.020 --> 0:42:19.180
<v S2>the name of Jesus. Holy Spirit, move across this land,

0:42:19.180 --> 0:42:22.620
<v S2>across this globe and take kids that were raised in

0:42:22.620 --> 0:42:26.779
<v S2>church and bring them into Christ for sure. And we

0:42:26.780 --> 0:42:29.739
<v S2>pray it in Jesus name a men.