1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,039 S1: Oh, this could be a Fun Friday program here on 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,159 S1: Chris Fabry Live the program from the heart to the 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,880 S1: heart for the heart. We are going to play Would 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,119 S1: You rather. And there are several questions you're going to 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,000 S1: hear during this hour, and your answers will lead us 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,599 S1: to something deeper. And we want you to join us 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,000 S1: and answer this question right now. If you had to 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,959 S1: choose one or the other, if you were forced to 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:32,320 S1: make a choice, would you rather eat pig slop or locusts? 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:38,520 S1: Call me now. (877) 548-3675. Tell me your answer and tell 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,160 S1: me why. Would you rather eat pig slop or locusts? 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,840 S1: And don't say neither. Nobody wants to eat pig slop 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,000 S1: or locusts, I'm assuming. But which is less repugnant to 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,720 S1: you today. Eight. Seven. Seven. Five. Four. Eight. Three. Six. Seven. Five. 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,400 S1: Helping out behind the scenes. Ryan McConaughey doing all things technical. 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,340 S1: Tricia's our producer. Lisa is in the chair. Josh will 17 00:01:00,340 --> 00:01:03,340 S1: be answering your calls. And since it's Friday. That's right friend, 18 00:01:03,340 --> 00:01:06,060 S1: it's time for the fabulous Favori Friday. Sy what does 19 00:01:06,060 --> 00:01:09,059 S1: it do? I'll tell you. One. We oxygenate your blood. Two, 20 00:01:09,100 --> 00:01:12,180 S1: we get your endorphins going. Three, we raise your serotonin. 21 00:01:12,180 --> 00:01:16,300 S1: Level four, we promote lymphatic drainage. And five, we stimulate 22 00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:19,179 S1: your parasympathetic system. That's why we call it the five 23 00:01:19,220 --> 00:01:22,580 S1: love languages. We also stimulate your vagus nerve. We help 24 00:01:22,580 --> 00:01:25,260 S1: you release acetylcholine. And don't you dare forget what it 25 00:01:25,260 --> 00:01:28,740 S1: does to cortisol dissipation. Take in four seconds of air 26 00:01:28,740 --> 00:01:32,179 S1: through your nose right now. Hold it for a seconds, 27 00:01:32,459 --> 00:01:34,580 S1: and then as you release that air through your mouth, 28 00:01:34,620 --> 00:01:36,780 S1: push on the left side of your rib cage to 29 00:01:36,780 --> 00:01:39,660 S1: get rid of all that bad carbon dioxide. Give a 30 00:01:39,660 --> 00:01:42,300 S1: sigh today, for all the choices we have, the choices 31 00:01:42,300 --> 00:01:45,660 S1: between good, better, and best, and the choices those people 32 00:01:45,660 --> 00:01:48,700 S1: we read about in the Bible had from Ehud, the 33 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:52,020 S1: left handed Benjamite to JL. Would you rather have an 34 00:01:52,020 --> 00:01:54,820 S1: 18 inch dagger or a tent peg as a weapon? 35 00:01:54,980 --> 00:01:58,950 S1: David had a slingshot and five smooth stones. Goliath had 36 00:01:58,950 --> 00:02:01,750 S1: a spear, a javelin and a sword. What would you choose? 37 00:02:02,110 --> 00:02:04,190 S1: Take a stroll back to the first century. Would you 38 00:02:04,190 --> 00:02:07,150 S1: rather see Jesus in the manger or see him at 39 00:02:07,150 --> 00:02:09,549 S1: the tomb? Or how about this? Would you rather see 40 00:02:09,550 --> 00:02:12,630 S1: the Red sea parted or Jesus walking on the water? 41 00:02:12,790 --> 00:02:15,470 S1: Today's fabulous favorite Friday is brought to you by the 42 00:02:15,470 --> 00:02:19,910 S1: law firm of Eastman and Herring. All rights reserved. Void 43 00:02:19,910 --> 00:02:24,030 S1: where prohibited. Okay, so answer that question today. And some 44 00:02:24,030 --> 00:02:26,950 S1: people are doing it already on Facebook. And I'll read 45 00:02:26,950 --> 00:02:29,270 S1: you some of the responses here today. They're pretty good. 46 00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:32,190 S1: But answer that question. Would you rather if you had 47 00:02:32,190 --> 00:02:34,470 S1: to make a choice, would you rather eat pig slop 48 00:02:34,590 --> 00:02:40,430 S1: or a locusts plural as like one locust? Or we're 49 00:02:40,430 --> 00:02:43,030 S1: going to find out from in the studio today, our producer, 50 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:46,790 S1: Tricia McMillan is going to join us. Tricia, your answer 51 00:02:46,790 --> 00:02:49,910 S1: to that question, pig slop or locusts? 52 00:02:49,950 --> 00:02:55,070 S2: I mean, they're such great options. I think I would 53 00:02:55,070 --> 00:03:00,530 S2: lean toward locusts, I. But only because that seems like 54 00:03:00,570 --> 00:03:05,290 S2: a cleaner food than. Than the slop of all the 55 00:03:05,330 --> 00:03:10,090 S2: pig slop. Like that sounds very unappetizing. And and even 56 00:03:10,090 --> 00:03:13,570 S2: looking at it, if it's. Would I rather slurp big slop? 57 00:03:13,889 --> 00:03:18,410 S2: And that sounds even less appealing to me. Like I 58 00:03:18,410 --> 00:03:22,090 S2: could crunch and pretend it's chips. And I've heard locusts 59 00:03:22,130 --> 00:03:24,169 S2: are good. Um, I don't. 60 00:03:24,169 --> 00:03:27,450 S1: They have those, those chocolate covered, you know, like crickets 61 00:03:27,450 --> 00:03:30,490 S1: or stuff like that. I, I don't wouldn't eat those. 62 00:03:30,490 --> 00:03:35,690 S1: But if given the choice between the slop, the slop 63 00:03:35,730 --> 00:03:38,770 S1: even maybe it's just the word. Yeah. It's the tactile 64 00:03:38,770 --> 00:03:42,250 S1: feel of this, you know, it's like a crunch. Yeah, yeah, 65 00:03:42,250 --> 00:03:44,170 S1: I can, I can handle a crunch. Right. 66 00:03:44,210 --> 00:03:47,570 S2: Yeah. Sometimes. I mean, that said, I just realized I, 67 00:03:47,610 --> 00:03:51,650 S2: I accidentally chewed on a bug not too long ago. 68 00:03:51,650 --> 00:03:54,650 S2: And that still sticks with me of the crunch because 69 00:03:54,650 --> 00:03:57,780 S2: it was not on purpose and it was not great. 70 00:03:59,260 --> 00:04:01,980 S2: But I think between these two, I think I would 71 00:04:01,980 --> 00:04:03,820 S2: pick eat locusts over the pig slop. 72 00:04:03,860 --> 00:04:09,020 S1: Yeah. Me too. And but I because I did this, uh, many, 73 00:04:09,020 --> 00:04:12,060 S1: many years ago at the church where we were going to, 74 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:14,180 S1: they would have me do not skits because we wouldn't 75 00:04:14,180 --> 00:04:17,180 S1: call them skits, we'd have dramas. And it was a 76 00:04:17,180 --> 00:04:20,180 S1: humorous thing to get into the message. And this was 77 00:04:20,180 --> 00:04:23,580 S1: the person who was talking was first century. And he said, 78 00:04:23,580 --> 00:04:26,100 S1: I'm on the John the Baptist diet. And this was 79 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:29,380 S1: when SlimFast was really big. Okay. And so the other 80 00:04:29,380 --> 00:04:33,539 S1: person says, what's the John the Baptist diet? And I said, uh, 81 00:04:33,540 --> 00:04:36,060 S1: it's a locust for breakfast, the locust for lunch and 82 00:04:36,060 --> 00:04:40,660 S1: a sensible dinner. And everybody did like what you just did. 83 00:04:40,660 --> 00:04:45,020 S1: They laughed. Yeah. But to me that the locust is 84 00:04:45,020 --> 00:04:50,020 S1: much better than, than the pigs are. You don't even 85 00:04:50,020 --> 00:04:55,400 S1: like saying that that name. Okay. Juanita is in Georgia. Juanita, 86 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,480 S1: what is your answer? 87 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,120 S3: Uh. Pig slop. 88 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,960 S1: Really? You are the only person today who is saying. 89 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,760 S1: Because everybody on on Facebook is talking about locusts. Why 90 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,240 S1: would you say pig slop? 91 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,720 S3: Because I don't think I could stand the texture of 92 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,960 S3: the bug. I feel like it would be a bunch 93 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,239 S3: of little crunchy pieces, and the pig slop would probably 94 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,200 S3: be like oatmeal. I mean, if it's pig slop, it's 95 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:26,800 S3: got to be a grain. So it's probably corn, oats, wheat, barley, 96 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,520 S3: something like that. And if they just throw water in 97 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,360 S3: it to me, I could probably just if I was starving, 98 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,839 S3: I would eat that. I definitely would not eat a locust. Yuck. 99 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,520 S1: Well, that's what the the prodigal son longed to eat 100 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,360 S1: from the, you know, the what the pigs were eating, 101 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,719 S1: you know, the stuff that they were throwing out because 102 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,600 S1: a pig will eat anything, you know. Um, yeah. And 103 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:54,020 S1: so maybe there are some choice morsels in the slop 104 00:05:54,420 --> 00:05:57,140 S1: that you could kind of pick through that wouldn't be 105 00:05:57,140 --> 00:06:01,060 S1: as bad. Uh, but, but you, you didn't choose the 106 00:06:01,060 --> 00:06:03,979 S1: slop because of the slop. You, you chose it because 107 00:06:03,980 --> 00:06:05,779 S1: you don't like the crunch, right? 108 00:06:06,460 --> 00:06:10,460 S3: I would not like feeling little bug legs going down 109 00:06:10,460 --> 00:06:15,060 S3: my throat, I think. I mean, I maybe they have 110 00:06:15,060 --> 00:06:18,900 S3: more protein, but I definitely oh, I don't, I just 111 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:21,260 S3: can't even imagine putting a bug in my mouth. I 112 00:06:21,260 --> 00:06:24,300 S3: would it's like if you look at a big cockroach 113 00:06:24,300 --> 00:06:27,339 S3: or a big water bug and it dies and it's 114 00:06:27,339 --> 00:06:31,219 S3: upside down and those little legs, it's like, it's like, oh, 115 00:06:31,420 --> 00:06:33,020 S3: I would not. Oh no. 116 00:06:33,180 --> 00:06:35,380 S1: I'm thinking there's somebody who's listening today. 117 00:06:35,420 --> 00:06:36,300 S3: Cow brains. 118 00:06:36,540 --> 00:06:39,380 S1: Yeah. Listen, Juanita, there's somebody who's listening today who's having 119 00:06:39,380 --> 00:06:44,020 S1: lunch and they're thinking, what, what are you people talking about? Juanita, 120 00:06:44,020 --> 00:06:46,940 S1: thank you for calling in here today. Tricia. I see 121 00:06:46,940 --> 00:06:50,219 S1: this on my. Is that you? Uh, what Reddit says? 122 00:06:50,260 --> 00:06:51,420 S2: No, that's. Lisa. 123 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:51,870 S1: Lisa. 124 00:06:51,870 --> 00:06:52,750 S2: That in there? Yeah. 125 00:06:52,790 --> 00:06:54,230 S1: Okay. Read that for me. 126 00:06:54,270 --> 00:06:57,229 S2: Okay. It says, uh, she found this. That Reddit says 127 00:06:57,230 --> 00:07:02,110 S2: historically and literally. Pig slop is a semi-liquid mixture of 128 00:07:02,110 --> 00:07:06,190 S2: kitchen waste, food scraps, spoiled produce, and liquids like water, 129 00:07:06,190 --> 00:07:09,430 S2: skimmed milk or whey fed to pigs or hogs on 130 00:07:09,430 --> 00:07:10,070 S2: a farm. 131 00:07:10,630 --> 00:07:13,310 S1: Yeah. And they are all over it, too. As soon 132 00:07:13,310 --> 00:07:19,550 S1: as you do that. Oh, okay. So you and I say, uh, locusts. Yeah. 133 00:07:20,030 --> 00:07:24,510 S1: And then Juanita says, slob on Facebook. What were you 134 00:07:24,510 --> 00:07:24,870 S1: going to say? 135 00:07:24,910 --> 00:07:26,830 S2: I was going to say, but. But the way that 136 00:07:26,830 --> 00:07:30,510 S2: you said she picked more like the not the locusts. 137 00:07:30,510 --> 00:07:34,270 S2: I feel like I'm picking not the pig slop. So like, 138 00:07:34,310 --> 00:07:36,470 S2: neither would be like, here's your buffet for the day. 139 00:07:36,470 --> 00:07:39,230 S2: Which one do you want? Like, uh, it's more which 140 00:07:39,230 --> 00:07:40,190 S2: one do I not want? 141 00:07:40,230 --> 00:07:43,790 S1: But Christie says, I guess locusts, if I could cover 142 00:07:43,790 --> 00:07:49,070 S1: them in breadcrumbs or chocolate. Okay. We're not holding you back. 143 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:52,490 S1: They're definitely locus, Jordan says. I know what it is 144 00:07:52,490 --> 00:07:54,810 S1: in locus than they are healthy eating. I do not 145 00:07:54,810 --> 00:07:59,490 S1: know what is in in pig slop. Better chance that 146 00:07:59,490 --> 00:08:05,210 S1: the locust would be fresh flown in daily, says Bill. Okay, 147 00:08:05,530 --> 00:08:08,650 S1: so what we are doing here, just in the first 148 00:08:08,650 --> 00:08:13,410 S1: eight minutes of the program, is exhibiting something that both 149 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:19,410 S1: Brock and Marianne Hope happens in your family, in your 150 00:08:19,530 --> 00:08:23,210 S1: especially with your children, but not necessarily because adults can 151 00:08:23,210 --> 00:08:25,770 S1: do this as well. So we're going to take a break. 152 00:08:25,770 --> 00:08:28,130 S1: We're going to come back. You're going to meet Brock 153 00:08:28,130 --> 00:08:31,690 S1: and Marianne and what they have come up with. And 154 00:08:31,690 --> 00:08:34,410 S1: the reason why they are asking this question about the 155 00:08:34,410 --> 00:08:39,490 S1: pig slop or the locusts, and many other questions, you 156 00:08:39,490 --> 00:08:43,410 S1: can find out about that at the website. Chris Fabry live.org. 157 00:08:43,570 --> 00:08:47,130 S1: Would you rather is our topic today at the Radio 158 00:08:47,130 --> 00:08:59,990 S1: Backyard Fence? Would you rather is a great Friday topic 159 00:08:59,990 --> 00:09:02,550 S1: here on Chris Fabry Live. And there's a reason why 160 00:09:02,550 --> 00:09:05,709 S1: we're doing this. And the people who gave us the 161 00:09:05,710 --> 00:09:10,510 S1: reason and the idea of would you rather Bible challenges 162 00:09:10,870 --> 00:09:14,070 S1: eat pig slop or locusts, go in the fiery furnace 163 00:09:14,070 --> 00:09:16,990 S1: or the lion's den. And 50 more epic Bible story 164 00:09:17,030 --> 00:09:22,430 S1: devotions featured at Chris fabriclive.org. The co-authors of that, Brock 165 00:09:22,429 --> 00:09:25,949 S1: Eastman and Mary Ann Herring, are with us. Before I 166 00:09:25,950 --> 00:09:28,950 S1: tell you more about them, let's sign in and tell me. 167 00:09:28,950 --> 00:09:31,510 S1: I saw the Brock that you said something on on 168 00:09:31,870 --> 00:09:36,230 S1: Facebook about, uh, honey, can we use honey? So, Brock, 169 00:09:36,230 --> 00:09:37,470 S1: what is your answer to that? 170 00:09:37,910 --> 00:09:39,590 S4: Yeah. I mean, I'm thinking if I get the honey, 171 00:09:39,590 --> 00:09:41,270 S4: it might not be so bad. You know, I've walked 172 00:09:41,270 --> 00:09:44,069 S4: in those stores and I've seen those popsicles or those 173 00:09:44,110 --> 00:09:46,750 S4: suckers that have, like, the scorpion in them. And I'm like, 174 00:09:46,790 --> 00:09:49,520 S4: do I dare try that? Or chocolate covered ants. And 175 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,160 S4: so I figure if they're selling them, they must not 176 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,680 S4: be too bad. So maybe some honey on the locust. 177 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:56,400 S4: I'd be okay. 178 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,160 S1: Yeah. There was no qualification. We didn't say that you 179 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,080 S1: couldn't put peanut butter on there if you wanted to. 180 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:01,720 S1: I mean, you can. 181 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:02,040 S4: Here we. 182 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:02,360 S1: Go. 183 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,360 S4: Peanut butter makes everything better, right, Chris? 184 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,320 S1: Yeah. Mary Ann, what do you say? 185 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,680 S5: I'm with Brock because the bugs will have a lot 186 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:15,440 S5: of protein. And that pig slop just shouts Ebola to me, 187 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:16,480 S5: so forget it. 188 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,720 S1: There you go. Okay, so here's here's the behind the 189 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,800 S1: scenes story. Brock Eastman is an award winning author. His 190 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:30,679 S1: titles include Bedtime on Noah's Ark, The Imagination Station Series, 191 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,959 S1: showdown with the Shepherd, Faith and science with Doctor Fizzle Bob. 192 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,200 S1: You can find out more about him. He was producer 193 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:43,240 S1: for Adventures in Odyssey. Just go to Chris fabry.org and. 194 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,940 S1: Mary Ann is a children's book author, and your most 195 00:10:47,940 --> 00:10:53,620 S1: notable contribution is the Imagination Station book series. There's something 196 00:10:53,620 --> 00:10:58,059 S1: like 30, some 30 some titles in that. Right, Marianne? 197 00:10:58,660 --> 00:11:01,580 S5: Absolutely. I'm writing book 38 right now. 198 00:11:01,620 --> 00:11:04,380 S1: Wow. What's the title? Do you know the title? 199 00:11:04,860 --> 00:11:09,900 S5: Um, not of 38, 37 is, um, sunk in the 200 00:11:09,900 --> 00:11:15,100 S5: South Atlantic. It's about a, uh, a ship that was carrying, uh, 201 00:11:15,780 --> 00:11:18,740 S5: a couple hundred missionaries and it was caught by the 202 00:11:18,740 --> 00:11:22,059 S5: Germans in World War Two in April of 41. 203 00:11:22,300 --> 00:11:25,500 S1: So this is a historic thing that actually happened that 204 00:11:25,500 --> 00:11:27,420 S1: you're actually happened. 205 00:11:27,460 --> 00:11:30,620 S5: Yeah. So that one and then the one I'm working 206 00:11:30,620 --> 00:11:36,660 S5: on now, the working title is, um, she's looking it up, 207 00:11:36,700 --> 00:11:39,500 S5: have a working title. Yeah. I don't have a working title. 208 00:11:39,540 --> 00:11:39,900 S1: I love. 209 00:11:39,900 --> 00:11:46,559 S5: 3700. Here's what justice, justice in the nick of time. Ooh, 210 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,280 S5: I like this. 211 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,000 S1: I like that. Okay, so this is this is fun 212 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,240 S1: and yeah, great. Great idea. You know, this pig slop 213 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,920 S1: or the locusts? But what's the point of all that? Brock? 214 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,679 S1: There's something deeper here, right? 215 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,160 S4: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think that the whole goal 216 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,840 S4: for me, I'm a dad of four kids, um, 17 217 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,600 S4: to down to 11. And it really comes down to 218 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,439 S4: having an ability to have great time with your family 219 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,280 S4: and this devotion and the construct behind these questions and these, 220 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,400 S4: we have 104 Bible stories and a fun construct to 221 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,160 S4: help kids and parents have a discussion around two Bible 222 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,400 S4: stories in one moment. Sure, it sounds a little silly 223 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,760 S4: and funny when we ask questions like, would you eat 224 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,319 S4: pig slop or locusts? But the truth is, it creates 225 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,320 S4: these great moments for mom and Dad to get their 226 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,720 S4: kids talking about Bible stories and then dig deeper into 227 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,720 S4: people from the Bible and the themes around those Bible stories. 228 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,840 S4: So that's the hope in my opinion. That's that's the goal. 229 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,610 S1: Yes. And Marianne, The. The pig slop has got to 230 00:12:45,610 --> 00:12:47,130 S1: be the prodigal son, right? 231 00:12:47,970 --> 00:12:50,890 S5: Absolutely. You nailed it. Yeah. 232 00:12:51,450 --> 00:12:53,890 S1: And and I think of John the Baptist when I 233 00:12:53,890 --> 00:12:56,370 S1: think of locusts. But there are probably other people who 234 00:12:56,370 --> 00:12:59,050 S1: ate locusts, too. Is it John the Baptist? 235 00:12:59,929 --> 00:13:02,450 S5: It is John the Baptist. And what they have in 236 00:13:02,450 --> 00:13:08,170 S5: common is the, um, theme of forgiveness. The prodigal son 237 00:13:08,210 --> 00:13:12,770 S5: experienced forgiveness from his father, and John the Baptist was 238 00:13:12,770 --> 00:13:17,050 S5: preaching about God's forgiveness. MM. So there's also. 239 00:13:17,690 --> 00:13:21,570 S1: There's also an element of repentance there too, isn't there, 240 00:13:21,570 --> 00:13:25,809 S1: that that John was calling for people to turn, you know, 241 00:13:25,850 --> 00:13:31,050 S1: to be baptized, uh, repenting of their sins. And in 242 00:13:31,050 --> 00:13:34,290 S1: order for the prodigal to get out of the pig slop, 243 00:13:34,290 --> 00:13:37,130 S1: he remembered his dad and went back home. So that's 244 00:13:37,170 --> 00:13:40,090 S1: it's just what we're doing right here is what you 245 00:13:40,090 --> 00:13:41,890 S1: had hoped would happen, right? 246 00:13:42,670 --> 00:13:46,510 S5: Yeah, that's exactly it. To get families talking about, um, 247 00:13:46,550 --> 00:13:50,349 S5: one Bible knowledge, just who's in the Bible and what 248 00:13:50,390 --> 00:13:54,910 S5: all the challenges they faced, and then how everybody can 249 00:13:54,910 --> 00:13:56,670 S5: relate to needing forgiveness. 250 00:13:57,830 --> 00:14:00,709 S1: And to make it real. Brock for, for a lot 251 00:14:00,710 --> 00:14:03,949 S1: of kids and adults too, let's be honest, it's just 252 00:14:03,950 --> 00:14:06,790 S1: these stories are these stories and they just lay on 253 00:14:06,790 --> 00:14:12,110 S1: the page and they, they come alive when we start realizing, oh, 254 00:14:12,270 --> 00:14:15,190 S1: of course, the Prodigal Son was, was a fictional story 255 00:14:15,190 --> 00:14:18,830 S1: that Jesus told. Or perhaps he, he based it on 256 00:14:18,830 --> 00:14:22,870 S1: someone that he knew. We don't know. But these stories, 257 00:14:22,870 --> 00:14:25,230 S1: when you start to talk about them, something happens on 258 00:14:25,230 --> 00:14:26,430 S1: the inside, doesn't it? 259 00:14:27,070 --> 00:14:29,710 S4: Oh, absolutely. And I think that's the thing. I try 260 00:14:29,750 --> 00:14:31,590 S4: not to say use the word Bible characters. I try 261 00:14:31,630 --> 00:14:34,550 S4: to use Bible people because we want kids and families 262 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:37,710 S4: to realize these are real stories from history that actually happened, 263 00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:40,790 S4: people just like you. And I think when kids can 264 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,920 S4: see themselves in the people from the Bible, they experience 265 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:50,640 S4: the same things heartache, hope, love, faith, uh, fear, courage, 266 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,760 S4: all the things that kids face on a regular basis. 267 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,440 S4: And so in the devotionals, when we unpack these stories, 268 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,720 S4: we want them to see themselves in the story. And 269 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,240 S4: in fact, we talk to the reader as if at 270 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,400 S4: times they're experiencing the story firsthand. Um, and that's, that's 271 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:04,400 S4: a whole goal of it. 272 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,920 S1: Well, that's the biblical imagination. That's what Michael Carr talks about, 273 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,760 S1: to have this biblical imagination, to imagine that you are 274 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,960 S1: there with the gadarene demoniac or with the feeding of 275 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,080 S1: the 5000 little boy with fish. You know, what would 276 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,080 S1: you see? What would you sense around there? So that's, 277 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,640 S1: that's what it does kind of opens up the imagination. 278 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,160 S1: And kids are really good at this. As a matter 279 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,480 S1: of fact, I think, Mary Ann, sometimes kids are better 280 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,160 S1: than the adults are because we've been around these stories 281 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:30,800 S1: so long. 282 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,360 S5: Yeah, they'll see fresh angles and look at it from, um, 283 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,780 S5: a small person's perspective. Um, so I, I like it, 284 00:15:41,780 --> 00:15:44,220 S5: but I will say that there's quite a few here 285 00:15:44,220 --> 00:15:47,860 S5: that are not well known stories. So even adults who 286 00:15:47,860 --> 00:15:50,700 S5: have been doing devotions their whole lives, I think they'll 287 00:15:50,700 --> 00:15:54,100 S5: come across a few that will surprise and delight them. 288 00:15:54,540 --> 00:15:57,580 S1: Like what, what's an obscure one that you include? 289 00:15:58,140 --> 00:15:59,980 S5: Oh my goodness. Um. 290 00:16:00,700 --> 00:16:03,980 S4: I thought the, the tool, the farm tool. That was 291 00:16:03,980 --> 00:16:06,420 S4: a fun one to talk about standing up against the 292 00:16:06,420 --> 00:16:09,140 S4: Philistines with just a what was it, an ox? Oh, 293 00:16:09,180 --> 00:16:12,220 S4: I forget the word was God. Yeah, an ox goad. 294 00:16:12,260 --> 00:16:15,220 S4: He stood up against me with a farm tool and 295 00:16:15,420 --> 00:16:18,540 S4: even making the rounds my whole life in Bible school 296 00:16:18,980 --> 00:16:21,820 S4: and Sunday school. I'm not sure I really recalled that 297 00:16:21,820 --> 00:16:25,420 S4: story until we started to research it and write it again. Yeah. 298 00:16:25,860 --> 00:16:28,380 S1: And we've even got we've even got animals on this 299 00:16:28,380 --> 00:16:31,460 S1: program today. We've got that sounds. Marianne. That sounds like 300 00:16:31,460 --> 00:16:33,540 S1: a big dog. What kind of dog is that? 301 00:16:34,460 --> 00:16:39,040 S5: That is a golden retriever American bulldog mix. And I'm 302 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,760 S5: so sorry they ran away. I am throwing dog treats 303 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,720 S5: and they won't come. I'm very. 304 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,600 S1: Sorry. Don't you apologize? This is. This is the best 305 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,240 S1: radio we've had all year. Okay, before we move on 306 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,400 S1: to the next question. I got to get Judy in 307 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,520 S1: here in Illinois. Judy. What do you say about locusts 308 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,520 S1: or pig slop? 309 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,240 S3: Hi. 310 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:00,680 S5: I'm so glad you. 311 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,920 S6: Got to me. Um, can you hear me all right? 312 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:03,720 S1: Sure can. 313 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,760 S6: Oh, great. Well, when my sons were in college, one 314 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,840 S6: of my, uh, one of them that were staying in 315 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,080 S6: the house with a bunch of buddies, bought a pig, 316 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,720 S6: and the pigs stayed with them. So over Christmas break, 317 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,800 S6: they had to bring it home. We had a pig 318 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,560 S6: for several weeks, and I made the slop, and it 319 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,800 S6: was like I'd put oatmeal and all my scraps from cooking, 320 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,440 S6: and it was really not bad. It was not bad, 321 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,000 S6: and I'd much rather eat that in the eating bugs, 322 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,240 S6: I think is like really grotesque. 323 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,690 S1: Well, it sounds like you were Crunch. You're doing the 324 00:17:37,690 --> 00:17:43,729 S1: organic slop there, Judy. It was it was real food. And, uh, 325 00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:45,730 S1: so I can understand why you would you would want 326 00:17:45,770 --> 00:17:48,210 S1: to call in and say that, uh, what was the 327 00:17:48,210 --> 00:17:49,609 S1: pig's name, by the way? 328 00:17:51,369 --> 00:17:55,250 S6: Mrs. Pickles worth? They were at the Lincoln House in 329 00:17:55,250 --> 00:17:58,290 S6: in in Champaign-Urbana. It was Mrs. Bigglesworth is what we 330 00:17:58,290 --> 00:18:00,010 S6: call it. And she smelled like bacon. 331 00:18:02,210 --> 00:18:04,330 S1: And you just you never know. 332 00:18:04,410 --> 00:18:05,210 S6: She really did. 333 00:18:05,369 --> 00:18:07,850 S1: You never know what you're going to get. Okay. So 334 00:18:07,850 --> 00:18:10,610 S1: thank you for Judy for that. Mrs. Bigglesworth, I gotta 335 00:18:10,650 --> 00:18:14,090 S1: ask the golden retriever mix. What is your dog's name? 336 00:18:14,090 --> 00:18:14,730 S1: Mary Ann? 337 00:18:15,970 --> 00:18:17,050 S5: Samwise. 338 00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:18,090 S1: No. 339 00:18:18,530 --> 00:18:19,010 S5: Really? 340 00:18:19,050 --> 00:18:20,210 S1: Yes, yes. 341 00:18:20,210 --> 00:18:22,889 S5: He's kind of got red hair. He's got reddish hair, 342 00:18:22,930 --> 00:18:25,250 S5: like Sam in the Lord of the rings. 343 00:18:26,210 --> 00:18:30,129 S1: Okay, so we're done with the locusts and the, uh, 344 00:18:30,130 --> 00:18:32,690 S1: the pig slop. I want to move to the other 345 00:18:32,690 --> 00:18:34,810 S1: thing that I said at the beginning of the program, 346 00:18:34,810 --> 00:18:38,310 S1: and that was, uh, which would you rather be at? 347 00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:44,030 S1: Would you rather be at the manger or at the tomb? Uh, 348 00:18:44,030 --> 00:18:50,390 S1: and why would you rather see the incarnation, the newborn babe? 349 00:18:50,670 --> 00:18:53,909 S1: Or would you rather be at the tomb and you don't? 350 00:18:53,950 --> 00:18:56,709 S1: Do you say in there, Brock, uh, what part of 351 00:18:56,710 --> 00:18:59,189 S1: the tomb is like, this is what the stone rolled 352 00:18:59,190 --> 00:19:03,750 S1: away or the stone in place? Do you qualify it? 353 00:19:04,270 --> 00:19:06,310 S4: Yeah. This is. You're approaching when the stone has been 354 00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:08,910 S4: rolled away. So what do you find there? Yeah. Okay. 355 00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:09,909 S4: That very moment. 356 00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:15,510 S1: So here's the number (877) 548-3675. I want to hear your 357 00:19:15,510 --> 00:19:17,910 S1: answer to that. Which would it be to the manger 358 00:19:18,030 --> 00:19:26,149 S1: or to the tomb. And why if you could be there. (877) 548-3675. 359 00:19:26,190 --> 00:19:29,189 S1: Which would you rather. And this gets us right into 360 00:19:29,230 --> 00:19:33,189 S1: the the biblical record about the resurrection. Brock Eastman and 361 00:19:33,190 --> 00:19:36,160 S1: Mary Ann Herring are joining us today. They have put together. 362 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,440 S1: Would you rather Bible challenges eat pig slop or locusts? 363 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,320 S1: Go in the fiery furnace or the lion's den? And 364 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:49,360 S1: 50 more epic Bible story devotions featured resource at Chris favorite.org. 365 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:55,040 S1: Chris fabriclive.org. How would you answer that, Mary Ann? Which 366 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,280 S1: would you rather be and can we would you say 367 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,119 S1: that in any. You know, if it come up to Christmas, 368 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,440 S1: it's like, I think I'd rather be at the manger. 369 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,440 S1: But right now, as we say this, what would Mary 370 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,399 S1: Ann's answer be? 371 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,879 S5: Oh my goodness, when I wrote that part about like 372 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,880 S5: seeing the resurrection and what it would have been like 373 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,000 S5: to be in that cave, it scared me. So I'm 374 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:21,719 S5: going to choose the manger. I don't know, it's just, uh, 375 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,200 S5: manger babies. They're safe. 376 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:29,200 S1: Yes, yes. Because there was there is fear, you know, 377 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,939 S1: and you have the angelic presence and you've got, you know, 378 00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:37,300 S1: they're so afraid in the King James Brock, what would 379 00:20:37,300 --> 00:20:38,140 S1: you say to that? 380 00:20:38,540 --> 00:20:41,100 S4: I'm going to go with the tomb. And I think 381 00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:43,340 S4: it just goes on with my own, my own faith 382 00:20:43,340 --> 00:20:45,340 S4: walk and my own journey. You know, growing up in 383 00:20:45,340 --> 00:20:48,660 S4: the church and hearing these stories my whole life and 384 00:20:48,660 --> 00:20:51,020 S4: being in a Christian home and with, with the whole 385 00:20:51,020 --> 00:20:53,939 S4: family and grandparents around it, you still have the journeys 386 00:20:53,940 --> 00:20:56,100 S4: through faith on your own. And so, you know, even 387 00:20:56,100 --> 00:20:58,860 S4: as questions abound, and I like to study science, I 388 00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:01,619 S4: do a thing called doctor Bob. I want to see 389 00:21:01,619 --> 00:21:04,180 S4: that moment that the body is not there anymore. I 390 00:21:04,180 --> 00:21:06,660 S4: want to see that he has risen for sure. You know, 391 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:08,780 S4: it's that it's that doubt that we have as humans 392 00:21:08,780 --> 00:21:11,100 S4: in our mind that crosses in those dark moments. And 393 00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:14,179 S4: so I think there'd be nothing more spectacular to see that, 394 00:21:14,180 --> 00:21:16,459 S4: and then to be a witness, to go out and say, no, 395 00:21:16,740 --> 00:21:18,900 S4: he is not in that tomb anymore. And I think 396 00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:20,379 S4: that's just an amazing idea. 397 00:21:20,619 --> 00:21:23,140 S1: He is not here. He has risen. Okay, Trish, what 398 00:21:23,140 --> 00:21:23,700 S1: do you say? 399 00:21:24,580 --> 00:21:27,820 S2: I think I would agree with Mary Ann and and 400 00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:32,080 S2: I think I would rather see the manger. Um, there 401 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,560 S2: is something I think, like she was saying safe, but 402 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:41,840 S2: also not as confusing. Like there's just all, all of the, the, um, the, 403 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,479 S2: the possibilities when you hold a newborn baby that it 404 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,320 S2: could be anything. Um, and if you know that it's 405 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,359 S2: the Messiah, like you don't know all of those things 406 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,119 S2: that will happen yet, or at least Mary didn't know 407 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,000 S2: and understand all of those things. And at the tomb, 408 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,840 S2: I'm just struck by the confusion that everyone seemed to 409 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,720 S2: have where it's like, where is he? What's going on? 410 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,800 S2: And like Jesus saying, didn't you know, like I told you? 411 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,359 S2: And I just feel like I'd be, I'd have all 412 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,400 S2: of that confusion and I'd rather hold the baby. Yes. 413 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,439 S1: And there are no there are no wrong answers here. 414 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,200 S1: You know, it's just like, okay, what do you think 415 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,840 S1: about this? And here's Marty in Vermont. Marty, what do 416 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:26,919 S1: you say to the question? 417 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:33,570 S7: I would rather be at the tomb and see Jesus 418 00:22:33,570 --> 00:22:37,490 S7: coming out of the tomb. The price was paid for 419 00:22:37,530 --> 00:22:44,889 S7: my salvation, and anybody that accepts him, he's taking the sins. 420 00:22:44,890 --> 00:22:48,810 S7: He's finished his what he. The things that he was 421 00:22:48,810 --> 00:22:52,290 S7: supposed to do. And now he can go back to 422 00:22:52,330 --> 00:22:56,570 S7: the father and we can be accepted in heaven. 423 00:22:56,570 --> 00:22:59,970 S1: Yes. And be empowered by the Holy Spirit. That will come. 424 00:22:59,970 --> 00:23:03,650 S1: That's great. Theologically. See, this is where you get. Then 425 00:23:03,970 --> 00:23:09,250 S1: by answering these questions, you get to theology and imagine 426 00:23:09,250 --> 00:23:12,330 S1: a child saying this I would I would rather be 427 00:23:12,369 --> 00:23:16,250 S1: at the at the manger because of my fear of, 428 00:23:16,250 --> 00:23:19,530 S1: of this over there, uh, and everything that happened. And 429 00:23:19,530 --> 00:23:21,890 S1: then for the adult to be able to say, but 430 00:23:21,890 --> 00:23:25,170 S1: here's the great thing about being at the tomb, and 431 00:23:25,170 --> 00:23:27,810 S1: this is why I would like to be there. Louisa 432 00:23:27,810 --> 00:23:30,710 S1: is in Tampa, Florida. Louisa. Go right ahead. 433 00:23:31,950 --> 00:23:36,909 S8: Hello. Yes. Thank you for taking me. Okay. The reason 434 00:23:36,910 --> 00:23:39,150 S8: why I wanted to be by the tomb is that 435 00:23:39,150 --> 00:23:41,550 S8: I remembered the Word of Jesus when he said it 436 00:23:41,550 --> 00:23:45,870 S8: is finished. At least like a new life. New life 437 00:23:45,869 --> 00:23:50,350 S8: for me. And that's what's giving me hope, actually. Where's 438 00:23:50,350 --> 00:23:55,190 S8: the manger? You know, Jesus will undergo great sacrifice. And, uh, 439 00:23:55,390 --> 00:23:58,670 S8: you know, it looks cute to see the baby. And 440 00:23:58,670 --> 00:24:02,510 S8: I'm excited that the angels were there, but, uh, later on, 441 00:24:02,550 --> 00:24:06,030 S8: he had to be on his own, uh, and to, 442 00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:10,630 S8: to be an offering. So that's going to be very painful. 443 00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:16,190 S8: So this one here reminds me of my resurrection in 444 00:24:16,190 --> 00:24:18,430 S8: my hope of eternal life. 445 00:24:18,990 --> 00:24:23,470 S1: Wow. See? Do you see how how deep you can get? Brock, 446 00:24:23,470 --> 00:24:25,230 S1: respond to those responses. 447 00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:27,730 S4: I mean, they're wonderful. I mean, I think that what 448 00:24:27,730 --> 00:24:29,970 S4: is neat is, you know, we all come at faith, 449 00:24:30,010 --> 00:24:32,330 S4: our our story of how we met Jesus and what 450 00:24:32,330 --> 00:24:35,370 S4: he means to us differently and what that moment means 451 00:24:35,369 --> 00:24:37,690 S4: to us, whether, as I think, Tricia, you were saying 452 00:24:37,690 --> 00:24:40,610 S4: earlier about holding the newborn baby and all the opportunity 453 00:24:40,609 --> 00:24:43,050 S4: that exists in that moment of God sending his son there, 454 00:24:43,210 --> 00:24:45,250 S4: and then reflecting on what it looks like to see him, 455 00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:46,850 S4: that he died for our sins, and to know in 456 00:24:46,890 --> 00:24:49,890 S4: that moment it is finished. And I think it's just 457 00:24:49,890 --> 00:24:52,570 S4: powerful how we all come at from our own stories, 458 00:24:52,570 --> 00:24:55,370 S4: how how we can take these moments and see them 459 00:24:55,369 --> 00:24:58,730 S4: very differently. But all yet the same connected to our 460 00:24:58,730 --> 00:24:59,330 S4: one God. 461 00:24:59,570 --> 00:25:04,209 S1: If we changed it from the manger to the cross 462 00:25:04,450 --> 00:25:08,530 S1: instead of the empty tomb, I wonder if that would 463 00:25:08,530 --> 00:25:15,610 S1: change people's decision, because that was that's a really hard thing. 464 00:25:15,609 --> 00:25:18,490 S1: And it's a hard thing to talk to your kids about, 465 00:25:18,810 --> 00:25:22,130 S1: about what Jesus went through. So I call time out 466 00:25:22,170 --> 00:25:24,250 S1: right there. Now you know what we're doing here at 467 00:25:24,250 --> 00:25:28,460 S1: the back fence today. Would you rather Bible challenges? Would 468 00:25:28,460 --> 00:25:30,580 S1: you rather eat pig slop or locusts? Go in the 469 00:25:30,580 --> 00:25:34,060 S1: fiery furnace or the lion's den and 50 more epic 470 00:25:34,060 --> 00:25:37,940 S1: Bible story devotions put together by Mary Anne Herring and 471 00:25:37,940 --> 00:25:41,060 S1: Brock Eastman. You can find out more about them and 472 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:48,460 S1: that resource at Chris fabry.org. Chris fabry.org. Are more questions 473 00:25:48,460 --> 00:25:50,659 S1: I want you to respond to. Coming up straight ahead 474 00:25:50,660 --> 00:25:51,620 S1: on Moody Radio. 475 00:26:03,820 --> 00:26:04,699 S9: This is Chris Fabry. 476 00:26:04,700 --> 00:26:07,460 S1: Live on Moody Radio. I got an email after the 477 00:26:07,460 --> 00:26:11,700 S1: program yesterday from a listener who said, I just loved 478 00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:15,459 S1: hearing you talk with Gary Chapman about his life, about 479 00:26:15,460 --> 00:26:18,540 S1: the documentary that came out. And she said, I just 480 00:26:18,540 --> 00:26:21,379 S1: found it so funny what happened to him as a child, 481 00:26:21,380 --> 00:26:23,100 S1: as a ten year old child, and the trouble that 482 00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:25,840 S1: he got into for letting some of the neighbors air 483 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,399 S1: out of her tires. He lived in China Grove, North Carolina, 484 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,160 S1: and I talked to the rest of the program about 485 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,879 S1: the cold case unit of China Grove Police Department getting 486 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,160 S1: a hold of this information. They're coming after Gary. But 487 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,879 S1: the thing that happened in that program that I didn't 488 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:47,800 S1: expect was when Gary talked about how he journals every day, 489 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,000 S1: how he how he writes well, actually, he types it, 490 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,000 S1: he types out what he's praying through and reading through 491 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,280 S1: and responding. And it reminded me of Allison Bixby's book 492 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,400 S1: journaling as a Spiritual practice. That's our. Thank you. This month. 493 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,080 S1: If you give a gift of any amount to Chris 494 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,320 S1: Fabry live this month in November, and we're about halfway through, 495 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,280 S1: then you will be able to learn how to journal 496 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,919 S1: and trace the lines of God's grace and his presence 497 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,560 S1: so that you can realize years from now, as you 498 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,020 S1: look back and Gary's gone. He says he has stacks 499 00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:28,620 S1: of these journals that he has. Years from now, you 500 00:27:28,619 --> 00:27:32,580 S1: can look back and see God was walking with me 501 00:27:32,619 --> 00:27:37,620 S1: through this situation that I was in back then, and 502 00:27:37,619 --> 00:27:39,379 S1: I felt like he was silent. I felt like he 503 00:27:39,380 --> 00:27:43,260 S1: wasn't there. And I'm seeing no, he was all along. 504 00:27:43,460 --> 00:27:45,380 S1: Let me send you a copy of this journaling as 505 00:27:45,380 --> 00:27:50,420 S1: a spiritual practice. It's, uh, at Chris Fabry live.org. Scroll down, 506 00:27:50,420 --> 00:27:52,020 S1: you'll see how you could be a friend or a 507 00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:54,820 S1: partner and give a gift. Would love to send this 508 00:27:54,820 --> 00:27:57,660 S1: to you, especially get it to you in December as 509 00:27:57,660 --> 00:28:00,580 S1: you head toward the new year and start journaling. That 510 00:28:00,580 --> 00:28:04,220 S1: might be a good discipline that you get into. And 511 00:28:04,220 --> 00:28:08,980 S1: don't say, hey, I'm no good at that because, well, 512 00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:13,020 S1: neither am I, neither. Neither is anybody. You do it 513 00:28:13,020 --> 00:28:15,820 S1: as a discipline and you get into it and you 514 00:28:15,820 --> 00:28:18,740 S1: start doing it every day and you see what will happen, 515 00:28:18,740 --> 00:28:21,859 S1: what will start pouring out of your heart and your soul. 516 00:28:22,390 --> 00:28:25,830 S1: You can go to Chris Fabry live.org, or call us 517 00:28:25,869 --> 00:28:36,270 S1: at 8669538669532279. Featured resource today at the radio backyard fence 518 00:28:36,270 --> 00:28:40,350 S1: is would you rather Bible challenges by Mary Ann Herring 519 00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:44,630 S1: and Brock Eastman. They are our guests here. Trish is 520 00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:47,150 S1: still in the studio. She's going to answer the questions 521 00:28:47,150 --> 00:28:49,350 S1: that Brock and Mary Ann are going to give us. 522 00:28:49,630 --> 00:28:51,710 S1: But I have to say something about this book. This 523 00:28:51,710 --> 00:28:56,150 S1: is a hardback book. It is. The illustrations of it 524 00:28:56,150 --> 00:29:00,550 S1: are just so good. And the little, uh, squares that 525 00:29:00,550 --> 00:29:04,030 S1: have the questions, the comments, you know, that are in there, 526 00:29:04,030 --> 00:29:07,670 S1: just pop with color. It's just a gorgeous book that 527 00:29:07,670 --> 00:29:10,430 S1: your kids, I would think that this would be Mary 528 00:29:10,430 --> 00:29:13,350 S1: Ann between like eight and 12. Is that right? 529 00:29:13,870 --> 00:29:14,870 S5: Absolutely. 530 00:29:15,310 --> 00:29:19,750 S1: Yeah. Um, so we have it linked right there@chris.org. So 531 00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:26,090 S1: here's what I'm going to do. Write the number down (877) 548-3675. 532 00:29:26,130 --> 00:29:29,850 S1: Brock is going to give a question which would you 533 00:29:29,890 --> 00:29:32,490 S1: would you rather. And then Mary Ann's going to give a. 534 00:29:32,530 --> 00:29:35,810 S1: Would you rather. And we're going to see who calls 535 00:29:35,810 --> 00:29:40,210 S1: about more about either Brock's or Mary Ann's. Okay. So 536 00:29:40,210 --> 00:29:42,330 S1: here's what we're going to do. Brock. You go first. 537 00:29:43,090 --> 00:29:46,290 S4: Oh, now you've made it this more competition. So yeah, 538 00:29:46,330 --> 00:29:48,410 S4: I'm down between these two. The one I'm going to pick, 539 00:29:48,410 --> 00:29:50,090 S4: I'm going to tell you the one I thought about first. 540 00:29:50,090 --> 00:29:51,890 S4: And I'm the one I'm going to pick. I was 541 00:29:51,890 --> 00:29:54,570 S4: going to go with maybe witness Jesus walking on the 542 00:29:54,570 --> 00:29:57,850 S4: water or watch him float through the clouds. But the 543 00:29:57,850 --> 00:29:59,810 S4: one I, the one I've settled on here for us, 544 00:29:59,810 --> 00:30:03,010 S4: is would you rather grow the fruit of the spirit 545 00:30:03,010 --> 00:30:06,130 S4: where everyone can see it, or put on God's armor 546 00:30:06,130 --> 00:30:11,130 S4: for spiritual battle? So bare biblical fruit or suit up spiritually. 547 00:30:11,690 --> 00:30:14,250 S1: Okay, unpack that a little bit more. When you say, 548 00:30:14,290 --> 00:30:19,090 S1: would you rather bare biblical fruit? Meaning would you rather, 549 00:30:20,220 --> 00:30:25,540 S1: exhibit love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, that kind of thing. 550 00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:29,420 S4: Goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control? Yes, sir. The fruits of 551 00:30:29,420 --> 00:30:32,340 S4: the spirit or put on the belt of truth, the 552 00:30:32,340 --> 00:30:35,220 S4: breastplate of righteousness. Shoes of the gospel of peace, the 553 00:30:35,220 --> 00:30:37,580 S4: shield of faith, helmet of salvation, or the. And the 554 00:30:37,580 --> 00:30:39,100 S4: sword of the spirit. And I kind of want to 555 00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:41,380 S4: hold that sword of the spirit up. But the idea 556 00:30:41,380 --> 00:30:43,860 S4: there being. What would you choose? 557 00:30:44,340 --> 00:30:49,100 S1: Which one would you rather. Eight. Seven seven. Five. Four. Eight. Three. Six. 558 00:30:49,140 --> 00:30:51,660 S1: Seven five. That's the first question. Would you rather bear 559 00:30:51,660 --> 00:30:56,860 S1: biblical fruit or suit up spiritually? Marianne, what is your. 560 00:30:56,900 --> 00:30:57,860 S1: Would you rather. 561 00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:02,820 S5: Oh, um, we're going to go back into the book 562 00:31:02,820 --> 00:31:06,380 S5: of acts. And would you rather witness a death reversed? 563 00:31:06,380 --> 00:31:10,459 S5: That would be Tabitha rising from the dead with Peter 564 00:31:10,460 --> 00:31:13,820 S5: praying for. Or would you rather watch Eutychus fall out 565 00:31:13,820 --> 00:31:15,620 S5: the window and Paul heal him? 566 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,680 S1: That that Utica story. Oh, I love that. Okay. That's 567 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,320 S1: from acts chapter. 568 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,520 S5: Tabitha's acts chapter nine and Utica says, acts chapter 20. 569 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:36,800 S1: Acts 20. All right. So 47 so Eutychus falls asleep 570 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,120 S1: and he tumbles backwards out of the window and he 571 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,680 S1: dies and and Paul raises him from the dead. Right? 572 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,320 S5: Right. 573 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,040 S1: Okay. You did this or. Okay. So, so which would 574 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,240 S1: you rather answer? Would you rather witness a death reversed 575 00:31:54,280 --> 00:32:00,400 S1: Tabitha or Eutychus raised from the dead? See, but that's 576 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,560 S1: a lot easier for me because I want to see 577 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,120 S1: what Paul looks like. And I not only see what 578 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,040 S1: Eutychus looks like and see what Paul. Tricia, which one 579 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,720 S1: of those would you answer first? 580 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:15,560 S2: I think I would answer the maryanne's question. Um, because 581 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,020 S2: I would love to see Tabitha come back to life 582 00:32:19,060 --> 00:32:23,220 S2: like her ministry that she had. Um, the story around 583 00:32:23,220 --> 00:32:25,900 S2: her and the facts that we know. Um, I think 584 00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:28,020 S2: that's the one that I would, that I would want 585 00:32:28,060 --> 00:32:28,540 S2: to see. 586 00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:32,860 S1: Yeah. Uh. All right. Brock, if you were to answer 587 00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:37,820 S1: Maryanne's question, the Tabitha or Eutychus, which would it be? 588 00:32:38,780 --> 00:32:40,340 S4: I don't think I want to be there when the 589 00:32:40,380 --> 00:32:43,180 S4: when he falls out of the the window. I think 590 00:32:43,180 --> 00:32:46,060 S4: I'd rather come upon the scene after. Uh, so I would, 591 00:32:46,060 --> 00:32:49,100 S4: I would, uh, also choose the Tabitha moment for sure. 592 00:32:49,140 --> 00:32:52,980 S1: But the Tabitha. All right, so Maryanne, for the bare 593 00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:56,340 S1: biblical fruit or suit up spiritually. What about you? 594 00:32:58,020 --> 00:33:02,700 S5: Um, I think I don't know. These are hard times. 595 00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:07,900 S5: I want the armor. I want to be ready because 596 00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:11,860 S5: there's just a lot to deal with these days, so. Yeah. Um, 597 00:33:12,780 --> 00:33:13,940 S5: I need to be ready. 598 00:33:14,780 --> 00:33:18,430 S1: What about you, Brock? Of that biblical fruit or suiting 599 00:33:18,430 --> 00:33:19,270 S1: up spiritually? 600 00:33:19,870 --> 00:33:22,070 S4: I'm with Mary Ann on this one right now. It 601 00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:25,470 S4: is about suiting up spiritually. I feel, especially in our 602 00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:27,910 S4: culture where we're at as a society. There's just it 603 00:33:27,910 --> 00:33:29,950 S4: feels like a lot of darkness at times. And I 604 00:33:29,950 --> 00:33:33,430 S4: think the longer path is growing that spiritual fruit to 605 00:33:33,470 --> 00:33:35,670 S4: show others who we are when we live in Jesus 606 00:33:35,670 --> 00:33:38,550 S4: day to day. Um, but in this moment, in this 607 00:33:38,550 --> 00:33:41,110 S4: week and this year, it feels like I need to 608 00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:42,670 S4: be armored up and ready to go. 609 00:33:43,070 --> 00:33:48,430 S1: Yeah, I, I think I would choose the bearing the 610 00:33:48,430 --> 00:33:53,230 S1: biblical fruit because because of how squishy in our culture 611 00:33:53,270 --> 00:33:58,830 S1: love is if to, to, to know what love really 612 00:33:58,830 --> 00:34:02,830 S1: is and what it really looks like. Um, you know, 613 00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:07,110 S1: put that passage along with first Corinthians 13 and you've got, 614 00:34:07,150 --> 00:34:10,830 S1: you know, marching orders for your life. But what does 615 00:34:10,830 --> 00:34:13,390 S1: love look like in this situation? What does love look 616 00:34:13,390 --> 00:34:18,050 S1: like in this relationship? If I'm bearing biblical fruit and 617 00:34:18,050 --> 00:34:22,370 S1: loving well, what is what does that look like in 618 00:34:22,370 --> 00:34:25,529 S1: the everyday and the working it out? And, and maybe 619 00:34:25,690 --> 00:34:28,210 S1: that's part of the, the reason why I would gravitate 620 00:34:28,210 --> 00:34:29,530 S1: to that. What do you think? Brock. 621 00:34:31,010 --> 00:34:33,410 S4: Yeah, I think, I think you're right. I think understanding 622 00:34:33,410 --> 00:34:35,890 S4: what those fruits actually are and what they are meant 623 00:34:35,890 --> 00:34:39,370 S4: to be and shown, uh, is clear. I think for 624 00:34:39,370 --> 00:34:42,450 S4: my kids, that's what I would as a dad, right? 625 00:34:42,489 --> 00:34:44,770 S4: I want to be ready to battle for them or 626 00:34:44,770 --> 00:34:47,569 S4: to step in, uh, in the gap for them as 627 00:34:47,610 --> 00:34:50,410 S4: they're growing up. I want them to be living these 628 00:34:50,410 --> 00:34:52,609 S4: out so they can impact their generation and the kids 629 00:34:52,610 --> 00:34:54,690 S4: and their family around them when we send them off 630 00:34:54,690 --> 00:34:57,690 S4: to school. My hope is clearly that, you know, I 631 00:34:57,690 --> 00:34:59,529 S4: know they're bathed in prayer for my family. My mom 632 00:34:59,530 --> 00:35:01,410 S4: and dad pray for them regularly. I know that that 633 00:35:01,410 --> 00:35:04,489 S4: is part of what they are protected from prayers from 634 00:35:04,489 --> 00:35:07,410 S4: their family all the time. Oh, I'm about to tear up. Uh, 635 00:35:07,410 --> 00:35:09,850 S4: I don't want to tear up. Um, but I know 636 00:35:09,850 --> 00:35:12,290 S4: that what I want them to see living out in 637 00:35:12,420 --> 00:35:14,739 S4: the the kids around them, the people they interact with 638 00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:18,140 S4: in their sports events and their theater performances is showing 639 00:35:18,180 --> 00:35:20,060 S4: who God is to the world around them. And I 640 00:35:20,060 --> 00:35:22,259 S4: think you're absolutely right. What does it really mean to 641 00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:25,299 S4: show love? What does it mean to show kindness and patience? 642 00:35:26,219 --> 00:35:29,980 S4: Self control. When you're tempted or given something challenging? How 643 00:35:29,980 --> 00:35:32,299 S4: do you live those out? So yeah, Chris, that's a 644 00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:35,299 S4: complex answer. I think from the dad moment, like, I 645 00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:37,460 S4: just want to be ready to battle for them, right? 646 00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:40,339 S4: But I want them living out those fruits. Yes. 647 00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:43,860 S1: Okay. So that's the question on the on the dais, 648 00:35:43,860 --> 00:35:47,100 S1: on the would you rather is would you rather see 649 00:35:47,140 --> 00:35:53,740 S1: Eutychus or Tabitha resurrected? Or would you rather bear biblical 650 00:35:53,739 --> 00:36:00,219 S1: fruit or suit up spiritually? (877) 548-3675. You teared up when 651 00:36:00,219 --> 00:36:03,020 S1: you talked about the prayers for your kids. Here is 652 00:36:03,020 --> 00:36:06,060 S1: Dave in Illinois. Hi, Dave. Go right ahead. 653 00:36:07,380 --> 00:36:08,260 S10: Hello there. 654 00:36:10,180 --> 00:36:14,360 S1: This is. dad. Is that right? 655 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,839 S10: Yes, but I would have to go with Marianne's udca. 656 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,640 S10: I would love to see that. 657 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,920 S1: I would too, I would too. Why, Dave? 658 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,000 S10: Well, I'm. I'm kind of like you. I'd like to 659 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,879 S10: see Paul. Uh, but, uh, on a side note, though, 660 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,440 S10: I I'm I'm tickled to death to see where Brock 661 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,239 S10: is now, because when he was little, I thought he 662 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,919 S10: was going to grow up to be an arsonist. He 663 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,120 S10: set his house on fire. 664 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,840 S1: No. Is that Brock? Is that true? 665 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,759 S11: Oh, well, the tears are gone now. Yeah, the the 666 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,760 S11: happy tears are gone now. Um. 667 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:55,240 S1: Tears. 668 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,160 S11: Yeah. Yes, I, I did like to play with fire. 669 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,839 S11: And I did like my sister's playhouse on fire. As 670 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:01,879 S11: a child, yes I did. 671 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,480 S1: Oh, don't do this. Yeah. With Gary Chapman yesterday and 672 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,200 S1: you and the Pyromania. I can't, I can't. Okay, so, Dave, 673 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,939 S1: did this happen to what Brock and Marianne are talking 674 00:37:11,940 --> 00:37:15,540 S1: about here? Did this happen when they were when Brock 675 00:37:15,540 --> 00:37:17,460 S1: was growing up in your own house? Did you have 676 00:37:17,460 --> 00:37:18,980 S1: these kinds of conversations? 677 00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:24,660 S10: Uh, I tell you what, Brock always has had a 678 00:37:24,820 --> 00:37:28,700 S10: great imagination, and I have to give credit to his 679 00:37:28,700 --> 00:37:32,060 S10: mom because she was one of those that as we're 680 00:37:32,060 --> 00:37:35,899 S10: driving around town, in fact, today is a perfect example. 681 00:37:36,140 --> 00:37:39,420 S10: She'd look up at the sky and she'd see different 682 00:37:39,420 --> 00:37:43,700 S10: things in the clouds. And her imagination was. And that 683 00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:46,299 S10: I think I know that's where Brock got it, because 684 00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:47,620 S10: he sure didn't get it from me. 685 00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:51,860 S1: Yeah, but you picked up the phone, Dave. You picked 686 00:37:51,860 --> 00:37:53,819 S1: up the phone and called us. So thank you for 687 00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:56,859 S1: doing that. This is really fun. And I hope you're 688 00:37:56,860 --> 00:38:01,219 S1: catching the the spirit of what Brock and Marianne have 689 00:38:01,219 --> 00:38:04,140 S1: put together in this book. It's our featured resource. Would 690 00:38:04,140 --> 00:38:08,140 S1: you rather Bible challenges eat pig slop or locusts? Go 691 00:38:08,140 --> 00:38:10,870 S1: in the fiery furnace of the lion's den, and 50 692 00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:16,870 S1: more epic Bible story devotions featured resource at the website kris.org. 693 00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:19,950 S1: It's a beautiful, beautiful book. You'll see it right there. 694 00:38:19,989 --> 00:38:22,710 S1: We've got it linked. Dave, thanks for your call. And 695 00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:25,029 S1: if you want to answer either of those last two 696 00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:32,430 S1: questions from Brock and Marianne (877) 548-3675. More straight ahead on 697 00:38:32,430 --> 00:38:45,950 S1: Moody Radio. Last week I was in Nashville for the 698 00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:49,950 S1: Christy Awards, and the Christy Book of the year was 699 00:38:49,950 --> 00:38:52,950 S1: awarded as well as others, and that the winner of 700 00:38:52,989 --> 00:38:55,710 S1: that book is going to be with us on Monday 701 00:38:55,710 --> 00:38:58,150 S1: here at the back fence. Don't you dare miss it. 702 00:38:58,270 --> 00:39:02,990 S1: And the story behind the story today. Would you rather 703 00:39:02,989 --> 00:39:06,550 S1: Bible challenges? This is for kids 8 to 12 years old. 704 00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:09,530 S1: But as you can hear, us adults are really having 705 00:39:09,530 --> 00:39:12,649 S1: fun with this. Brock Eastman and Mary Ann Herring are 706 00:39:12,650 --> 00:39:16,129 S1: joining us, and Gloria is in New Hampshire. Gloria, why 707 00:39:16,130 --> 00:39:17,090 S1: did you call today? 708 00:39:18,170 --> 00:39:19,810 S6: Hi. Well, I was walking. 709 00:39:19,810 --> 00:39:20,410 S8: Through the kitchen. 710 00:39:20,410 --> 00:39:22,490 S6: Because I've got to get ready for a birthday party tomorrow. 711 00:39:22,489 --> 00:39:24,690 S6: So I didn't hear the whole thing. But when I 712 00:39:24,690 --> 00:39:27,290 S6: heard the question of the armor or the fruit of 713 00:39:27,290 --> 00:39:30,410 S6: the spirit, I was like, well, hands down, I have 714 00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:33,050 S6: to have the armor. I put it on every day. 715 00:39:33,410 --> 00:39:36,609 S6: So I was thinking, okay, what about the fruit then? 716 00:39:36,610 --> 00:39:39,770 S6: All right. Well, if if I have his belt of truth, 717 00:39:40,130 --> 00:39:44,130 S6: breastplate of righteousness, gospel of peace, shoes, shield of faith, 718 00:39:44,130 --> 00:39:48,049 S6: helmet of salvation, and the sword. Then he's going to 719 00:39:48,050 --> 00:39:50,129 S6: help me walk in the spirit because I have all 720 00:39:50,130 --> 00:39:52,010 S6: the armor on that. 721 00:39:52,050 --> 00:39:55,210 S1: They go hand in hand, don't they? In a way, 722 00:39:55,250 --> 00:39:57,690 S1: hand in glove, in a way. Brock, what do you 723 00:39:57,690 --> 00:39:58,370 S1: think of that? 724 00:39:58,810 --> 00:40:01,730 S4: I think that's a great answer. They really do go together, 725 00:40:01,730 --> 00:40:04,130 S4: and I think it's just about how we grow as Christians. 726 00:40:04,130 --> 00:40:06,549 S4: It's our spiritual life, right? It's the Sometimes the things 727 00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:10,550 S4: we don't see. And I think these two verses specifically, 728 00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:13,550 S4: they paint pictures of what it really looks like to me, 729 00:40:13,550 --> 00:40:15,870 S4: which I'm a visual person. And so it really helps 730 00:40:15,870 --> 00:40:18,910 S4: me start to think about those elements in a physical way, 731 00:40:18,910 --> 00:40:20,069 S4: if that makes sense. 732 00:40:20,110 --> 00:40:23,710 S1: It does. Um, let me go to Sean. Sean, what 733 00:40:23,710 --> 00:40:26,150 S1: did you want to answer the question about? 734 00:40:27,350 --> 00:40:30,390 S12: Yeah, I wanted to answer the would you rather have 735 00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:33,549 S12: the biblical fruit or the armor of God? And I 736 00:40:33,550 --> 00:40:40,230 S12: would definitely go with the biblical fruit, the love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control, 737 00:40:40,510 --> 00:40:42,350 S12: just because I think that's something we all need in 738 00:40:42,350 --> 00:40:44,430 S12: our lives. And, um, you know, I don't know about 739 00:40:44,430 --> 00:40:47,549 S12: my co-author Brock there on the Parable Taught series that 740 00:40:47,550 --> 00:40:48,670 S12: we wrote together. 741 00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:50,350 S9: But it's. 742 00:40:50,350 --> 00:40:51,150 S1: A family. 743 00:40:51,989 --> 00:40:52,509 S12: Sean. 744 00:40:54,190 --> 00:40:55,350 S1: Did you know that was him? 745 00:40:55,350 --> 00:40:58,430 S4: Brock when I heard his voice, I did. Yeah. We're 746 00:40:58,430 --> 00:41:00,710 S4: working on book four in our new series, Parallel Port 747 00:41:00,710 --> 00:41:03,790 S4: together today. Actually, uh, we've been, we've been texting back 748 00:41:03,790 --> 00:41:05,279 S4: and forth, so I love it. 749 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,680 S1: Okay. Wait a minute. You got to tell me more 750 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,560 S1: about that because I get the Imagination Station books. What's 751 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,160 S1: the parable? 752 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,920 S4: Port au parable ports. A new series that came out 753 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,719 S4: from Tyndale this spring. The first two books are out, 754 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,640 S4: The Sower Secret and The Captain's Clue. Uh. Book three 755 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,560 S4: comes out next summer, followed by book four. And it is, uh, Sean, 756 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,000 S4: are you still on? Because you can tell about it 757 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,480 S4: if you want to, but. Okay, Sean, what's it about? 758 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,400 S4: Tell tell. Chris, this is amazing. 759 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,640 S12: Yeah. No. Terrible port. It's a book series where the 760 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,960 S12: parables of Jesus come to life in a small town 761 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,319 S12: called Parable Port. And the kids discover the stories of 762 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,879 S12: the parables from Jesus as they're discovering them, happening all 763 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,560 S12: around them. So I imagine they would need the armor 764 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,280 S12: of God and the fruit of the spirit to, uh, 765 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,200 S12: handle those kinds of situations. 766 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,080 S4: Yes, sir. 767 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,000 S1: You guys work together really well. Mary Ann, do you 768 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,040 S1: have a co author you want to call in here today? 769 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,400 S5: No, they're all working too hard. 770 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,720 S1: I love that idea, though. And you can tell when 771 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,420 S1: you get creative people in here. And Sean, thanks for 772 00:42:04,420 --> 00:42:07,020 S1: your call. You get creative people and you start talking 773 00:42:07,020 --> 00:42:11,060 S1: about the Bible. The thing just kind of go, either 774 00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:13,740 S1: they'll either go off the rails or you start thinking 775 00:42:13,739 --> 00:42:17,020 S1: more deeply in your life. And as you start talking 776 00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:20,580 S1: with children about this, you'll see things that come from them. 777 00:42:20,580 --> 00:42:24,020 S1: As we talked about a little earlier, Doug is in Illinois. Doug, 778 00:42:24,020 --> 00:42:25,100 S1: why'd you call today? 779 00:42:27,140 --> 00:42:29,940 S13: I called to answer the question about the fruit of 780 00:42:29,940 --> 00:42:31,900 S13: the spirit and the armor of God. 781 00:42:31,940 --> 00:42:33,260 S1: All right, which one? 782 00:42:34,780 --> 00:42:37,460 S13: Uh, I like the armor of God, and I. I 783 00:42:37,580 --> 00:42:40,780 S13: hate to say it, but not only does Brock have 784 00:42:41,180 --> 00:42:44,700 S13: coworkers calling in, but he's got his dad. And now 785 00:42:44,700 --> 00:42:45,620 S13: this is his uncle. 786 00:42:47,980 --> 00:42:51,060 S14: It's my dad's twin. This is. My name is Douglas. 787 00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:53,540 S14: This is Dave's twin. Oh. 788 00:42:53,980 --> 00:42:55,660 S4: My name is Douglas. Yep. 789 00:42:55,940 --> 00:42:56,459 S14: Okay, wait. 790 00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:59,219 S1: Now, Doug, you got Douglas. You got to tell us 791 00:42:59,219 --> 00:43:03,200 S1: because we heard that Brock burned down his sister's play set. 792 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,680 S1: Did you did he do anything else that you want 793 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:06,560 S1: to tell us about? 794 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:07,800 S14: No. 795 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,239 S13: He was actually very good when he was around our place, so. No, he. 796 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:11,560 S14: Didn't. 797 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,640 S13: Like that. And I remember. 798 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,960 S1: He didn't tear anything down. Okay, but why the why 799 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,959 S1: the armor? What part of the armor do you feel 800 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,880 S1: like you need the most these days? 801 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,520 S13: Well, uh, I kind of got outvoted here. His aunt 802 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,640 S13: and his favorite cousin both wanted the fruit, but I 803 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,959 S13: wanted the armor because I, like Brock. Feel like we 804 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,040 S13: are in some hard times right now, and I just 805 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,359 S13: want to be prepared. I want to be the kind 806 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,919 S13: of person which I agree. I think they both go 807 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,480 S13: hand in hand. I want to have the fruit of 808 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,680 S13: the spirit to where when hard times come, I face 809 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,280 S13: it with compassion and I. I don't just lash out 810 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,960 S13: and get upset. And I think it's important to have 811 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,240 S13: that armor of God with me so I can be protected. 812 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,810 S1: Do you see what happens when you start talking about 813 00:44:01,810 --> 00:44:06,529 S1: these spiritual truths and you just kick them around with adults? 814 00:44:06,570 --> 00:44:09,290 S1: Now imagine the kids getting involved with this, Marianne. This 815 00:44:09,290 --> 00:44:12,210 S1: is exactly what you want to happen in families, right? 816 00:44:12,530 --> 00:44:18,450 S5: Absolutely. Just to have some fun stuff. What I like 817 00:44:18,489 --> 00:44:21,529 S5: about it is if especially dads, if they're leading this, 818 00:44:21,530 --> 00:44:23,810 S5: they don't have to put on a pastor hat. They 819 00:44:23,810 --> 00:44:26,130 S5: just have to put on a this is a person 820 00:44:26,130 --> 00:44:31,130 S5: where I am and it. It comes so naturally. Yes. 821 00:44:31,170 --> 00:44:34,050 S5: These discussions. And that's, that's what we want. And then 822 00:44:34,290 --> 00:44:38,450 S5: they'll remember it and talk about other stories like this. 823 00:44:38,770 --> 00:44:41,810 S5: So it just is. It's just a good way to 824 00:44:41,850 --> 00:44:46,330 S5: get your family open in a non-threatening way and have, 825 00:44:46,489 --> 00:44:48,609 S5: you know, some fun and then get into some of 826 00:44:48,610 --> 00:44:49,810 S5: the deeper questions. 827 00:44:49,930 --> 00:44:52,850 S1: Well, and it also takes you back to the scriptures, Brock. 828 00:44:52,890 --> 00:44:55,650 S1: It makes you ask, you know, what, what really happened? 829 00:44:55,650 --> 00:44:58,250 S1: What was really written here, right? 830 00:44:58,290 --> 00:45:00,670 S4: Mhm. Yeah. I think that's, that's been the best part 831 00:45:00,670 --> 00:45:04,390 S4: about even I, I love writing books like this. And 832 00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:07,029 S4: it's so challenging to me because as I mentioned, growing 833 00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:09,149 S4: up in the church, I've heard a lot of these stories, right? 834 00:45:09,190 --> 00:45:11,270 S4: And we've, we've read the Bible, the Bible stories and 835 00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:13,790 S4: so forth. But you start to really study the word 836 00:45:13,790 --> 00:45:16,350 S4: and see the depth and the context around them, and 837 00:45:16,350 --> 00:45:17,830 S4: then start to learn how they apply to your lives. 838 00:45:17,830 --> 00:45:20,029 S4: It's really, it's really, it changes your perspective on a 839 00:45:20,070 --> 00:45:22,910 S4: lot of things. And so, um, the answers were getting 840 00:45:22,910 --> 00:45:26,069 S4: from people today on the phone especially, yes, some of 841 00:45:26,070 --> 00:45:28,790 S4: them are my family members, but from the different people 842 00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:30,989 S4: have called in just hearing their perspective on it. It 843 00:45:30,989 --> 00:45:33,550 S4: really shows this community and this body of the church 844 00:45:34,030 --> 00:45:36,710 S4: and how together we're stronger with our perspectives and what 845 00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:38,629 S4: we bring to the table, and how the Bible can 846 00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:40,350 S4: impact each of us very differently. 847 00:45:40,590 --> 00:45:45,230 S1: Bingo. And we're interconnected. Tricia, I have to say, great 848 00:45:45,230 --> 00:45:49,390 S1: idea today. This was your idea to do this. Wonderful. 849 00:45:49,390 --> 00:45:53,230 S1: We've we've laughed. We've had dogs here. We've had responses. 850 00:45:53,230 --> 00:45:54,110 S1: What do you think? 851 00:45:54,310 --> 00:45:56,469 S2: It's been a lot of fun. And this is a 852 00:45:56,469 --> 00:45:57,550 S2: great way to end a week. 853 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,000 S1: It is. And it's a great resource. So colorful. And 854 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,760 S1: your kids 8 to 12 will love it. Uh, Brock Eastman, 855 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,920 S1: Mary Ann Herring have been with us today. And if 856 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,120 S1: you go to Chris fabry.org, you'll see. Would you rather 857 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:16,120 S1: Bible challenges? Let's go to Chris Fabry live.org. Mary Ann, 858 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,400 S1: you take care of Samwise and have a good weekend. Okay. 859 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,120 S5: All right. Thank you. 860 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,000 S1: Brock. You tell all your family to call next week. 861 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,000 S1: We need we need their help. Okay. 862 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:26,880 S14: I will. 863 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,360 S1: Okay. Just go to the website. I think you're really 864 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:35,040 S1: going to enjoy this. And what a quality publication that 865 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,719 S1: they've done with the illustration and the colors. Chris fabry.org. 866 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,040 S1: We have a link right there to would you rather 867 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,840 S1: Bible challenges the Christie Book of the year authors coming 868 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,560 S1: up on Monday. Have a great weekend. Chris Fabry lives 869 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,320 S1: production of Moody Radio, a Ministry of Moody Bible Institute.