1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,400 S1: Hi friends, this is Janet Parshall. Thanks so much for 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,160 S1: downloading this podcast, and I hope you hear something that 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,560 S1: will really encourage and edify you. But before you start 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,400 S1: to listen, let me take a moment of your time 5 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,399 S1: and tell you about this month's truth tool. It's called 6 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,640 S1: secure How to Have a Healthy Attachment to God. And 7 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,360 S1: it follows that very often, whatever our relationship is like 8 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,000 S1: with authority figures, predominantly our parents, we somehow transferred to 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,040 S1: how we see God. So if we have an angry parent, 10 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,319 S1: he's an angry God. If it's a distant parent, he's 11 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,520 S1: a God who's not there. 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Hi friends. 44 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,080 S1: Welcome to In the Market with Janet partial. A very 45 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,880 S1: happy Tuesday to you. Thank you so much for joining us. Okay. 46 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,760 S1: I'm looking at all of my sources coming out of 47 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,360 S1: the Middle East. And I have to tell you, I 48 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,480 S1: don't know what the future holds. I just know who 49 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,440 S1: holds the future. But I will tell you that a 50 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,160 S1: lot of people who watch these things are telling me 51 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,799 S1: that there's a build up in the Middle East that, well, 52 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,360 S1: we're not going to ignore. In fact, when I'm looking 53 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,679 S1: at big fighter planes getting fueled up at Ben Gurion 54 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,440 S1: Airport in Israel, uh, tell you what, that caught my attention. 55 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,359 S1: Let's just hope it catches the attention of Ayatollah Khamenei. 56 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,160 S1: Now they got talks. Wyckoff and Kushner, they're going to 57 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,400 S1: be there Thursday. They're going to do another round of talks. 58 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,320 S1: This would be the third round of talks. And of course, 59 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,960 S1: the issue is because they have made the declaration they 60 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,960 S1: want to destroy Israel and the United States. I hate 61 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,240 S1: to be pedantic on this, but some people are saying, hey, 62 00:02:56,340 --> 00:02:58,860 S1: they're not the only country with nuclear power. Yes, but 63 00:02:58,860 --> 00:03:02,859 S1: most of them have it as a defensive, not an aggressive, uh, 64 00:03:03,180 --> 00:03:07,660 S1: proactive event. Iran wants it so they can destroy Israel. 65 00:03:07,700 --> 00:03:10,620 S1: Their little Satan, as they call it, and the United States. 66 00:03:10,740 --> 00:03:12,540 S1: This is not just an issue for the Middle East. 67 00:03:12,540 --> 00:03:14,340 S1: This is very much an issue for us as well. 68 00:03:14,340 --> 00:03:16,060 S1: And I've explained to you before, those of you who 69 00:03:16,060 --> 00:03:18,900 S1: have spiritual eyes will see this. Those of you who 70 00:03:19,020 --> 00:03:21,660 S1: live in darkness, you're not going to understand this, but 71 00:03:21,660 --> 00:03:24,580 S1: there is an eschatology as an underpinning to all of this, 72 00:03:24,580 --> 00:03:26,700 S1: which is why we need to be watching this very carefully. 73 00:03:26,700 --> 00:03:29,700 S1: In the meantime, you've got Persians, and that's what they 74 00:03:29,700 --> 00:03:31,740 S1: prefer to be called, by the way, dancing in the street, 75 00:03:31,780 --> 00:03:35,420 S1: thumbing their nose at the authorities, still asking for help. 76 00:03:35,460 --> 00:03:40,340 S1: The CIA has been sending messages, mass mailings to phones, uh, 77 00:03:40,380 --> 00:03:43,060 S1: mailings have been going to phones all over Iran saying 78 00:03:43,060 --> 00:03:45,300 S1: this is the president of the United States. And I 79 00:03:45,340 --> 00:03:48,340 S1: hear you cryptic. But I got to tell you, if 80 00:03:48,340 --> 00:03:51,300 S1: you're an Iranian that does nothing but raise your hopes. Well, 81 00:03:51,300 --> 00:03:53,260 S1: let's get some more insight into what's happening there. Here's 82 00:03:53,260 --> 00:03:55,600 S1: Paul Pettit from CBN news. Here's his report. 83 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,480 S7: Protests are growing louder in Iran for the third straight day. 84 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,160 S7: Students are defying the regime this time at the all 85 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:08,400 S7: female Al-zahra University. Students chanted in Farsi saying for each 86 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:13,040 S7: person killed, a thousand stand behind them. The demonstrations follow 87 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:18,880 S7: memorials marking 40 days since the government crackdown on anti-government protesters, 88 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,679 S7: killing tens of thousands, Iran's state news agency reports. Similar 89 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,480 S7: protests erupted at five universities across the capital since Saturday. 90 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:34,040 S7: Multiple Middle East news outlets reported that Iranian anti-regime protesters 91 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,159 S7: received a mass text in Farsi, saying President Trump is 92 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,360 S7: a man of action. Wait and see. The anonymous message 93 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,840 S7: comes as the president weighs whether to strike Iran after 94 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:51,039 S7: issuing a ten day ultimatum last Thursday, posting on Truth Social. Monday, 95 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,100 S7: Trump warned if we don't make a deal, it will 96 00:04:54,140 --> 00:04:57,940 S7: be a very bad day for that country and very sadly, 97 00:04:58,140 --> 00:05:01,779 S7: its people. In the same post. Trump denied reports that 98 00:05:01,779 --> 00:05:04,460 S7: the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is against 99 00:05:04,460 --> 00:05:09,540 S7: military action, calling the reports about General Daniel Kane fake news. 100 00:05:09,779 --> 00:05:13,980 S7: Trump posted that he only knows one thing how to win, 101 00:05:13,980 --> 00:05:16,659 S7: and if he is told to do so, he will 102 00:05:16,660 --> 00:05:20,060 S7: be leading the pack. But according to The Wall Street Journal, 103 00:05:20,260 --> 00:05:24,060 S7: General Kane warned Trump that a prolonged conflict could incur 104 00:05:24,100 --> 00:05:29,940 S7: significant costs to U.S. forces and national stockpiles. Trump responded, 105 00:05:29,940 --> 00:05:33,339 S7: saying General Kane, like all of us, would like not 106 00:05:33,339 --> 00:05:36,420 S7: to see war. But if a decision is made on 107 00:05:36,420 --> 00:05:39,460 S7: going against Iran at a military level, it is his 108 00:05:39,460 --> 00:05:43,940 S7: opinion that it will be something easily won. In Jerusalem, 109 00:05:44,100 --> 00:05:49,219 S7: Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu addressed the Knesset Monday, telling members 110 00:05:49,220 --> 00:05:50,820 S7: that Israel is ready. 111 00:05:53,550 --> 00:05:56,230 S8: No one knows what the future holds. We are vigilant. 112 00:05:56,270 --> 00:05:59,150 S8: We are prepared for any scenario. I passed on and 113 00:05:59,150 --> 00:06:01,630 S8: clarified to the regime of the ayatollahs that if they 114 00:06:01,630 --> 00:06:04,670 S8: make perhaps the greatest mistake in their history and attack 115 00:06:04,670 --> 00:06:07,430 S8: the state of Israel, we will respond with a force 116 00:06:07,430 --> 00:06:09,110 S8: they cannot even imagine. 117 00:06:09,310 --> 00:06:11,990 S7: Iran responded with warnings of its own. 118 00:06:12,150 --> 00:06:17,230 S9: Any state would react to an act of aggression as 119 00:06:17,230 --> 00:06:22,549 S9: part of its inherent right of self-defense, ferociously. So that's 120 00:06:22,790 --> 00:06:23,909 S9: what we would do. 121 00:06:24,350 --> 00:06:27,909 S7: Another round of talks are confirmed to begin Thursday in Geneva, 122 00:06:27,950 --> 00:06:33,110 S7: according to Oman's foreign minister and negotiation mediator, posting that 123 00:06:33,110 --> 00:06:36,550 S7: there is a positive push to go the extra mile 124 00:06:36,589 --> 00:06:41,510 S7: towards finalizing the deal. Paul Pettit, CBN news, Jerusalem. 125 00:06:41,630 --> 00:06:44,470 S1: And we can certainly pray to that end, but it 126 00:06:44,470 --> 00:06:46,790 S1: doesn't look like Iran is going to come to the 127 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:48,910 S1: table with the idea of saying we're going to lay 128 00:06:48,910 --> 00:06:52,130 S1: down our nuclear weapons. And that is the sticking point 129 00:06:52,130 --> 00:06:53,690 S1: in all of this. So again, I'll say what I've 130 00:06:53,690 --> 00:06:56,610 S1: said all along. Please pray for those in authority. This 131 00:06:56,610 --> 00:06:59,530 S1: is a big decision. And I tell you what, this 132 00:06:59,529 --> 00:07:01,450 S1: is what I'm very thankful. I don't have to be 133 00:07:01,490 --> 00:07:03,969 S1: a person making those decisions, but I can go to 134 00:07:04,010 --> 00:07:05,890 S1: the king of all creation, as can you. And we 135 00:07:05,890 --> 00:07:09,370 S1: can petition that. He would give our leaders, both here 136 00:07:09,370 --> 00:07:13,050 S1: and overseas, the wisdom they need to make the right decision. 137 00:07:13,370 --> 00:07:17,730 S1: So it's very simple, it's very straightforward, and it's extremely constitutional. 138 00:07:17,730 --> 00:07:21,610 S1: Article two, section three, clause one of the US Constitution 139 00:07:21,610 --> 00:07:24,570 S1: refers to the president's State of the Union message, stating 140 00:07:24,570 --> 00:07:27,890 S1: that the president shall, and I quote from time to time, 141 00:07:27,890 --> 00:07:30,570 S1: give to the Congress information of the state of the Union, 142 00:07:30,570 --> 00:07:34,130 S1: and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall 143 00:07:34,130 --> 00:07:37,730 S1: judge necessary and expedient. So I'm telling you that because 144 00:07:37,770 --> 00:07:40,370 S1: tonight the president will give the state of the Union. Now, 145 00:07:40,370 --> 00:07:42,250 S1: before you yawn and walk out of the room, let 146 00:07:42,250 --> 00:07:44,290 S1: me just explain to you how this works. There is 147 00:07:44,290 --> 00:07:46,770 S1: history here. And if you're a student of history, you 148 00:07:46,770 --> 00:07:49,150 S1: understand that this is something the president has to do. 149 00:07:49,190 --> 00:07:51,550 S1: They've done it in various ways, by the way. In fact, 150 00:07:51,550 --> 00:07:53,989 S1: President George Washington delivered the first state of the Union 151 00:07:53,990 --> 00:07:57,750 S1: address before a joint session of Congress in New York 152 00:07:57,750 --> 00:08:01,870 S1: on January 8th, 1790. At that time, the speech was 153 00:08:01,870 --> 00:08:06,670 S1: simply known as the Annual Message. This ritual ritual originated 154 00:08:06,670 --> 00:08:09,590 S1: from a British practice of giving a speech from the 155 00:08:09,590 --> 00:08:13,710 S1: throne to open every session of Parliament. Obviously, we don't 156 00:08:13,710 --> 00:08:16,750 S1: do that anymore. But now, in fact, it's a part 157 00:08:16,750 --> 00:08:19,430 S1: of what we expect on a regular basis. The president 158 00:08:19,430 --> 00:08:22,470 S1: gives this executive report to not just the Congress, but 159 00:08:22,470 --> 00:08:24,670 S1: because of the advent of the media that we have. 160 00:08:24,910 --> 00:08:28,430 S1: It is to the entire entire country as well. So 161 00:08:28,470 --> 00:08:31,990 S1: Adams and Jefferson Adams in Washington, by the way, delivered 162 00:08:31,990 --> 00:08:34,550 S1: their messages in the same way to Congress in person. 163 00:08:34,550 --> 00:08:39,590 S1: Jefferson abandoned the practice as thinking it was too kingly 164 00:08:39,590 --> 00:08:42,790 S1: and time consuming, sending written messages instead. He was pretty 165 00:08:42,790 --> 00:08:44,990 S1: good with the quill pen. I can understand that this 166 00:08:44,990 --> 00:08:48,370 S1: precedent was followed until President Woodrow Wilson personally appeared before 167 00:08:48,370 --> 00:08:53,610 S1: Congress in 1913, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt adopted Wilson's practice 168 00:08:53,610 --> 00:08:57,410 S1: of personal delivery, and it's been since becoming a contemporary tradition. 169 00:08:57,410 --> 00:09:02,010 S1: Radio changed everything in 1923 and television in 1947, and 170 00:09:02,010 --> 00:09:06,050 S1: then a live webcast in 2002. All of those media 171 00:09:06,090 --> 00:09:10,130 S1: outlets now covering the address, and as a result, it's 172 00:09:10,170 --> 00:09:14,050 S1: gained greater importance by providing a nationwide platform for the president. 173 00:09:14,210 --> 00:09:17,290 S1: Guests in the gallery are always interesting. Today it's going 174 00:09:17,330 --> 00:09:20,329 S1: to be pretty interesting because sitting in the gallery tonight. 175 00:09:22,370 --> 00:09:25,210 S1: Will be the men's hockey team. Yes, they took home 176 00:09:25,210 --> 00:09:27,770 S1: the gold and today they'll be sitting in the gallery 177 00:09:27,770 --> 00:09:30,050 S1: representing the United States at the state of the Union. 178 00:09:30,050 --> 00:09:51,110 S1: Starts at 9:00. Hope you'll watch back after this. We 179 00:09:51,110 --> 00:09:54,709 S1: were created for relationships. Developing a healthy attachment to God 180 00:09:54,710 --> 00:09:57,790 S1: helps us form good relationships with others, and that's why 181 00:09:57,790 --> 00:10:00,710 S1: I've chosen secure how to have a healthy attachment to God. 182 00:10:00,710 --> 00:10:03,550 S1: As this month's truth tool, discover how real security is 183 00:10:03,550 --> 00:10:06,189 S1: found in your relationship with God. Ask for your copy 184 00:10:06,190 --> 00:10:08,030 S1: of secure. When you give a gift of any amount 185 00:10:08,030 --> 00:10:12,590 S1: to in the market, call 877. 58. That's 877 Janet 186 00:10:12,590 --> 00:10:18,230 S1: 58 or go to in the market with Janet. It's 187 00:10:18,230 --> 00:10:20,350 S1: Ramadan and I thought this would be a pretty good 188 00:10:20,350 --> 00:10:23,270 S1: time to figure out exactly how we share Jesus with 189 00:10:23,270 --> 00:10:26,510 S1: our Muslim friends, and maybe to really get some insight 190 00:10:26,510 --> 00:10:29,830 S1: into Islam. Is it a religion? Is it a political system? 191 00:10:29,830 --> 00:10:32,790 S1: Is it both? Are most of the adherents, people who 192 00:10:32,790 --> 00:10:36,150 S1: just quietly worship because generationally they were raised in a 193 00:10:36,150 --> 00:10:38,830 S1: muslim household. That's the only thing they've ever known. Or 194 00:10:38,950 --> 00:10:41,310 S1: are there as evidenced by so much of what gets 195 00:10:41,309 --> 00:10:44,290 S1: plastered over social media? Are there in moms who are 196 00:10:44,290 --> 00:10:47,290 S1: fomenting war? Are we watching the UK and seeing what's 197 00:10:47,290 --> 00:10:49,770 S1: happening there? Wondering whether or not a culture is bowing 198 00:10:49,809 --> 00:10:52,970 S1: and due deference to one particular religious worldview. There's a 199 00:10:52,970 --> 00:10:55,370 S1: thousand questions here, and when all else fails, go to 200 00:10:55,370 --> 00:10:58,010 S1: an expert. And that's who followed. Masri is. He's an 201 00:10:58,010 --> 00:11:00,850 S1: author and lecturer, born and raised in the war zone 202 00:11:00,890 --> 00:11:05,849 S1: of Beirut, Lebanon. He is a third generation ordained pastor. 203 00:11:05,970 --> 00:11:08,050 S1: He has a passion for sharing the love of Christ 204 00:11:08,050 --> 00:11:10,689 S1: with Muslims, and has been reaching out to Muslims and 205 00:11:10,690 --> 00:11:13,850 S1: inspiring others to do so for quite some time. He's 206 00:11:13,850 --> 00:11:16,650 S1: the author of the book Sharing Jesus with Muslims A 207 00:11:16,650 --> 00:11:18,730 S1: Step by Step Guide. I've got a link on my 208 00:11:18,730 --> 00:11:21,370 S1: information page. And by the way, he has a marvelous 209 00:11:21,370 --> 00:11:24,130 S1: ministry called the Crescent Project. I have a link to 210 00:11:24,170 --> 00:11:31,290 S1: their website Crescent Projects Crescent Project.org. Thank you so much 211 00:11:31,290 --> 00:11:33,610 S1: for joining me. I am so glad we're back together again. 212 00:11:33,610 --> 00:11:35,370 S1: It's been far too long since we've had a chance 213 00:11:35,370 --> 00:11:38,010 S1: to talk, and I'm so glad that just watching what's 214 00:11:38,010 --> 00:11:42,050 S1: happening with Ramadan globally, I was sort of tweaked to say, 215 00:11:42,290 --> 00:11:44,230 S1: we need to have a good discussion about this again. 216 00:11:44,230 --> 00:11:46,550 S1: So first of all, the warmest of welcomes and maybe 217 00:11:46,550 --> 00:11:49,510 S1: that's a good place to start. What is Ramadan. 218 00:11:50,230 --> 00:11:52,510 S10: Thank you Jan, it's so good to be with you again. 219 00:11:52,950 --> 00:11:56,110 S10: And I love your program because you bring the gospel 220 00:11:56,110 --> 00:11:59,470 S10: right into the day to day life with Ramadan today, 221 00:11:59,510 --> 00:12:01,870 S10: and Muslims around the world will use that as a 222 00:12:01,870 --> 00:12:05,870 S10: publicity stunt to to show that, oh, we're all united. 223 00:12:06,110 --> 00:12:09,630 S10: Ramadan is a month of fasting, but in reality, Ramadan 224 00:12:09,630 --> 00:12:12,670 S10: is a month of feasting. They are supposed to celebrate 225 00:12:12,670 --> 00:12:15,589 S10: the coming of the Quran or the giving of the Quran. 226 00:12:16,710 --> 00:12:19,870 S10: So they fast during the day, which means as long 227 00:12:19,870 --> 00:12:24,750 S10: as there's daylight and the way you can, um, know 228 00:12:24,750 --> 00:12:27,350 S10: what time is it? Is it time to fast or 229 00:12:27,390 --> 00:12:29,589 S10: is it time to break fast? Is if you can 230 00:12:29,590 --> 00:12:33,550 S10: tell the difference between red and black or white and black. 231 00:12:33,830 --> 00:12:35,990 S10: That's why whenever you travel in the Muslim world, you 232 00:12:35,990 --> 00:12:39,829 S10: have these colors on our flags on, you know, on carpets. 233 00:12:39,830 --> 00:12:42,410 S10: When you can tell the difference. This means it's sunrise 234 00:12:42,410 --> 00:12:46,010 S10: or the daytime started, and then if you cannot tell 235 00:12:46,010 --> 00:12:49,130 S10: the difference, it's now nighttime. So you break the fast. 236 00:12:49,130 --> 00:12:52,970 S10: You eat when nighttime happens. And usually Ramadan, we have 237 00:12:52,970 --> 00:12:57,210 S10: the most food being consumed and the best foods because 238 00:12:57,410 --> 00:12:59,770 S10: they want to celebrate, especially if you have not eaten 239 00:12:59,770 --> 00:13:03,450 S10: all day, uh, which creates other health issues. Sometimes people 240 00:13:03,450 --> 00:13:07,250 S10: overeat and they rush to the hospital emergency room, but 241 00:13:07,290 --> 00:13:09,490 S10: it's supposed to be a month of listening to the 242 00:13:09,490 --> 00:13:15,410 S10: Quran being chanted, a month to show God that you're fasted, uh, 243 00:13:15,490 --> 00:13:20,010 S10: that you cannot, uh, drink water or eat even, uh, 244 00:13:20,010 --> 00:13:24,450 S10: the hadith says if you swallow, you've broken the fast 245 00:13:24,890 --> 00:13:27,250 S10: in in Islam, you're told there is an angel on 246 00:13:27,250 --> 00:13:30,650 S10: the right that keeps track of your good works, an 247 00:13:30,650 --> 00:13:33,450 S10: angel on the left who keeps track of your bad works. 248 00:13:33,890 --> 00:13:37,689 S10: And on Judgment Day these works are put on a scale. 249 00:13:38,010 --> 00:13:42,350 S10: Whichever way the scale tips that defines or determines your 250 00:13:42,910 --> 00:13:45,870 S10: heaven or hell. So if you have more good works, 251 00:13:46,510 --> 00:13:50,069 S10: you go to heaven, to Paradise, where there's food and 252 00:13:50,070 --> 00:13:54,710 S10: water and wine. There's all the sensual pleasures. And then 253 00:13:54,710 --> 00:13:58,390 S10: if you have more bad works than good works, you 254 00:13:58,390 --> 00:14:02,030 S10: go to hell. And hell is a wood burning fire 255 00:14:02,390 --> 00:14:06,590 S10: where you just get tormented for eternity. So this is 256 00:14:06,590 --> 00:14:10,550 S10: how they view salvation. And it's so sad for us 257 00:14:10,550 --> 00:14:13,150 S10: who know the Word of God, because we know that 258 00:14:13,150 --> 00:14:16,830 S10: our human works are not good enough. Yet for the 259 00:14:16,830 --> 00:14:22,990 S10: whole 2829 days of Ramadan, they are focusing on this 260 00:14:23,590 --> 00:14:28,230 S10: meticulous way not to swallow, not to drink, not to eat, 261 00:14:28,230 --> 00:14:32,510 S10: and then make up the meals later. Because right at 262 00:14:32,510 --> 00:14:34,590 S10: sunset you have a big meal. Then at two in 263 00:14:34,630 --> 00:14:38,450 S10: the morning there's something called suhoor and you get another meal. 264 00:14:38,570 --> 00:14:40,890 S10: So basically you're making up the meals. You're really not 265 00:14:40,890 --> 00:14:44,450 S10: fasting in the sense of true fasting. You're just switching 266 00:14:44,490 --> 00:14:46,090 S10: day to night and night to day. 267 00:14:46,770 --> 00:14:49,690 S1: Wow. Oh, there's so many questions I have. So first 268 00:14:49,690 --> 00:14:51,210 S1: of all, let me underscore what you said because I 269 00:14:51,210 --> 00:14:54,370 S1: think that's extremely important. I'll ask the question because you're 270 00:14:54,370 --> 00:14:57,770 S1: hearing the music. Um, I find it interesting that it 271 00:14:57,770 --> 00:15:00,610 S1: is a works based religion. And you talk about the skill. 272 00:15:00,610 --> 00:15:02,930 S1: So one of the questions I would ask is who 273 00:15:02,930 --> 00:15:05,370 S1: reads the skill? Who makes the determined? You talk about 274 00:15:05,410 --> 00:15:07,850 S1: the good works versus the bad works, and Angel on 275 00:15:07,850 --> 00:15:10,210 S1: the right and angel on the left. So it's completely 276 00:15:10,210 --> 00:15:13,930 S1: and totally a works oriented religion, which raises the question 277 00:15:13,970 --> 00:15:16,490 S1: of why the call for fasting, if it's about really 278 00:15:16,490 --> 00:15:19,250 S1: a feast as opposed to a fast and it's really 279 00:15:19,250 --> 00:15:22,250 S1: about listening and reading the Quran. I would like to 280 00:15:22,290 --> 00:15:23,850 S1: know more about that. We're going to take a break 281 00:15:23,850 --> 00:15:26,050 S1: and come right back. Thank you so much for being 282 00:15:26,050 --> 00:15:28,490 S1: our teacher this hour. Food. Masri is with us. He's 283 00:15:28,490 --> 00:15:31,650 S1: the head of the Crescent Project ministry. Marvelous ministry. And 284 00:15:31,650 --> 00:15:33,690 S1: he's written a great book about sharing the good news 285 00:15:33,690 --> 00:15:36,790 S1: with our Muslim friends. It's called Sharing Jesus with Muslims. 286 00:15:36,830 --> 00:15:51,830 S1: A step by step guide. Back after this. We're visiting 287 00:15:51,830 --> 00:15:55,670 S1: with Fouad Masri. He is the man behind the Crescent Project, 288 00:15:55,670 --> 00:15:58,310 S1: and I'm so thankful for this ministry. It's really about 289 00:15:58,310 --> 00:16:01,150 S1: reaching out with the gospel to our Muslim friends. And 290 00:16:01,150 --> 00:16:03,510 S1: that's something that float is passionate about, by the way. 291 00:16:03,670 --> 00:16:05,910 S1: And he understands this. He's an author. He's a lecturer. 292 00:16:05,910 --> 00:16:08,470 S1: He was born in a war zone in Beirut, Lebanon, 293 00:16:08,790 --> 00:16:12,270 S1: and as I noted earlier, third generation ordained pastor. He's 294 00:16:12,270 --> 00:16:15,390 S1: written a great book called Sharing Jesus with Muslims A 295 00:16:15,390 --> 00:16:17,430 S1: Step by Step Guide. But I thought it would be 296 00:16:17,430 --> 00:16:20,430 S1: very important for us, as followers of Jesus, to really 297 00:16:20,430 --> 00:16:23,950 S1: understand what Ramadan is all about. So your Muslim neighbor, 298 00:16:23,950 --> 00:16:26,950 S1: your coworker, you really understand what they're going through right now. 299 00:16:27,190 --> 00:16:30,510 S1: And we can learn from our friend Ward here how 300 00:16:30,510 --> 00:16:32,910 S1: we can best use this opportunity to share the good 301 00:16:32,910 --> 00:16:35,370 S1: news of the gospel of Jesus Christ. So I like 302 00:16:35,410 --> 00:16:37,130 S1: the way you said that this. While there is a 303 00:16:37,130 --> 00:16:40,610 S1: fast part of this 40 day experience, there is a 304 00:16:40,610 --> 00:16:42,650 S1: feast that takes place at the end of the day 305 00:16:42,650 --> 00:16:45,770 S1: at sundown. So it raises a couple of interesting questions, 306 00:16:45,770 --> 00:16:47,970 S1: which is, let me go back to the scales, because 307 00:16:47,970 --> 00:16:49,730 S1: I thought that was fascinating. And by the way, we 308 00:16:49,730 --> 00:16:52,330 S1: see this in Egyptology as well, that at the end 309 00:16:52,410 --> 00:16:54,210 S1: there was a scale and you could see them tip 310 00:16:54,210 --> 00:16:56,130 S1: one way or the other, and that would determine your outcome. 311 00:16:56,130 --> 00:16:58,690 S1: So you wonder if somehow what happened in Egypt worked 312 00:16:58,690 --> 00:17:02,770 S1: its way into the Arab countries, and somehow that in 313 00:17:02,770 --> 00:17:06,050 S1: 1610 gave us what was going on in this night 314 00:17:06,050 --> 00:17:09,170 S1: of power, which is what Ramadan is all about. So who? 315 00:17:09,210 --> 00:17:11,770 S1: Somebody has to read the scales. So teach me if 316 00:17:11,770 --> 00:17:13,770 S1: the good works and the bad works are there. And 317 00:17:13,770 --> 00:17:15,409 S1: there's an angel on the right and an angel on 318 00:17:15,410 --> 00:17:18,169 S1: the left who looks at the scales and makes the decision. 319 00:17:18,730 --> 00:17:21,330 S10: So, Allah, this is the Arabic name for the God 320 00:17:21,330 --> 00:17:24,609 S10: of Islam. In Allah was a was one of the 321 00:17:24,609 --> 00:17:28,889 S10: pagan gods in Arabia. So when you study Islam, I've 322 00:17:28,890 --> 00:17:32,530 S10: read the Quran 40 times in Arabic, starting 41 times. 323 00:17:32,570 --> 00:17:34,700 S10: I have a master's degree in Islamic studies. The more 324 00:17:34,700 --> 00:17:37,220 S10: you dig into Islam, you find that at its core, 325 00:17:37,420 --> 00:17:40,699 S10: it's a political structure, not a religion. Religion is a 326 00:17:40,740 --> 00:17:44,220 S10: veneer to control the people. So no one can doubt 327 00:17:44,260 --> 00:17:49,060 S10: Muhammad the prophet. Why? Because Allah chose him so. And 328 00:17:49,060 --> 00:17:51,500 S10: you find that a lot of the teachings from other religions, 329 00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:55,420 S10: for example, all description on heaven and hell, are borrowed 330 00:17:55,420 --> 00:17:59,620 S10: from the Persian religion, the Zoroastrian religion. The description of 331 00:17:59,619 --> 00:18:03,540 S10: the scale that's borrowed from the Egyptology that you mentioned. 332 00:18:03,540 --> 00:18:05,980 S10: It's beautiful that you mentioned that. And when you look 333 00:18:06,020 --> 00:18:09,020 S10: at the paintings, they had, you know, different gods reading 334 00:18:09,020 --> 00:18:13,340 S10: the scale, and it had to, um, the feather of truth, 335 00:18:13,340 --> 00:18:16,900 S10: he called it, that will measure the, the works now 336 00:18:16,900 --> 00:18:19,379 S10: for us, because it's a political system. There are a 337 00:18:19,380 --> 00:18:23,260 S10: lot of ways to control society. Even when I studied 338 00:18:23,260 --> 00:18:28,700 S10: social psychology, they call it the socialization process. So in Islam, 339 00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:32,240 S10: the socialization process is the reason you follow the leader 340 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:36,000 S10: because Allah wants you to follow. You look at our history. 341 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,160 S10: Islam has failed historically because it's run by the Caliph 342 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:45,960 S10: and the Caliph. Khalifa is more of a religious, autocratic leader. 343 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,960 S10: And you cannot question him whether it's the Ottoman Empire 344 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,119 S10: or the Abbasid Empire or any empire. The leader was 345 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,760 S10: the autocrat. And that's where it's totally different. So for 346 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,800 S10: us in in the West, especially in the United States, 347 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,520 S10: the president reports to the people. The reason there is 348 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,199 S10: a state of Union address is that he's reporting to 349 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,240 S10: the people. Well, if you look at Iran, the people 350 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,240 S10: report to Khamenei, they report to the Ayatollah. And this 351 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,960 S10: is the struggle. Why Islam is failing is they use 352 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,960 S10: religion to control the people. So they say, well, Allah 353 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,040 S10: is going to watch. Everything you do is is tracked. 354 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,040 S10: When you do the ablutions, the washing, the water should 355 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,760 S10: be pushed between the fingers. If you don't do that, 356 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,100 S10: that's a mistake. The hijab, the way the woman puts 357 00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:35,580 S10: the hijab on has to be correctly, although it's not 358 00:19:35,580 --> 00:19:39,060 S10: described in the Quran, the hijab. But we have Mahsa 359 00:19:39,060 --> 00:19:44,380 S10: Amini die. Dying in Iran because she had the hijab on. 360 00:19:44,380 --> 00:19:47,100 S10: But it wasn't correct. I mean, really, you know, it's 361 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:49,780 S10: like telling your wife you don't have your makeup on correctly, 362 00:19:49,820 --> 00:19:54,300 S10: like leave the person alone. That's the struggle now for 363 00:19:54,340 --> 00:19:59,100 S10: for us as Bible believing Jesus in the parable of 364 00:19:59,140 --> 00:20:04,380 S10: the prodigal son. Uh, Doctor Bailey, Kenneth Bailey, my professor 365 00:20:04,380 --> 00:20:06,940 S10: on New Testament, you say it's the name should be 366 00:20:06,940 --> 00:20:11,220 S10: changed to the parable of the Waiting father. 367 00:20:11,460 --> 00:20:11,860 S1: Hmm. 368 00:20:12,260 --> 00:20:16,020 S10: It proves to us that our human effort is not 369 00:20:16,020 --> 00:20:21,780 S10: good enough. It's the human effort coming to sin. Sin 370 00:20:21,780 --> 00:20:26,380 S10: is an insult to God. The. The son's insulted their father. 371 00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:31,280 S10: No deed can be done to cover that insult. Um, 372 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,440 S10: about a year ago, I was in, uh, heading to Birmingham, England, 373 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,560 S10: and I was taking the train from London, and a 374 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,720 S10: couple said in front of me, Muslim couple. And somehow 375 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,760 S10: they found out I'm a pastor who started talking. And, uh, 376 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,520 S10: the wife said, how can Jesus take our sins away? 377 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,760 S10: And I said, uh, to the couple, I said, you 378 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,159 S10: have a smartphone. If I throw it in the water, 379 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,120 S10: will it continue to work? Is that okay? And they said, oh, no, 380 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,120 S10: they will destroy the phone. I said, what if I 381 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,800 S10: told you I'll give you 1 USD in exchange of 382 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:10,240 S10: that smartphone? They both responded, it's not the same value. 383 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,040 S10: I said exactly, all our life in Islam, we're supposed 384 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,880 S10: to fast Ramadan. We should do salat, we should do this. 385 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,400 S10: We should go to Hajj. We do all these works, 386 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,919 S10: but they are not the same value to cover our sin. 387 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,639 S10: So when you hate your brother, if you say I 388 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,260 S10: hate a Jewish person, or I hated somebody in Arab 389 00:21:28,260 --> 00:21:31,260 S10: or I hate, you know, somebody from another political party 390 00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:34,620 S10: that hate. Although it's bad, it's negative, but it's an 391 00:21:34,619 --> 00:21:39,260 S10: insult to God Almighty murder. You know, the Bible says 392 00:21:39,420 --> 00:21:44,700 S10: false testimony. Lying is a sin equal to adultery and murder. 393 00:21:44,980 --> 00:21:47,899 S10: So when when we say we want to do a 394 00:21:47,900 --> 00:21:50,980 S10: good work, well that's nice, that's great. Everybody should be 395 00:21:50,980 --> 00:21:53,740 S10: doing good work. But it's not good enough. It's not 396 00:21:53,740 --> 00:21:57,060 S10: the same value to wipe our sin. That's why we 397 00:21:57,060 --> 00:22:01,419 S10: needed a redeemer. The angel said to the shepherds, today 398 00:22:01,420 --> 00:22:03,780 S10: I bring you good news. What is the good news? 399 00:22:04,180 --> 00:22:07,619 S10: In the city of David, a Savior is born, not 400 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:12,540 S10: a not a prophet, not a businessman, not an engineer, 401 00:22:12,940 --> 00:22:15,500 S10: a savior. That's the problem in the human race is 402 00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:18,380 S10: the concept of that, the problem of sin and Christ 403 00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:20,899 S10: saves that. It was so fun to see the couple 404 00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:24,100 S10: really kind of their eyes lit up to the understanding 405 00:22:24,140 --> 00:22:28,879 S10: that I follow Jesus not because I've done enough good works, 406 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,720 S10: it's because he has done the work, his righteousness, not 407 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,000 S10: my righteousness. And and I'm so glad you're bringing up 408 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,080 S10: the topic of Ramadan, because that's when they get religious. 409 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,760 S10: That's when Muslims start stepping up to become religious. And 410 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,920 S10: and for me, it's a great opportunity to share the 411 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,840 S10: good news because they're trying so hard out of piety, 412 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,320 S10: out of love for God. But it doesn't solve the 413 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,119 S10: the problem of sin and judgment. 414 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,960 S1: Yeah. Oh, I'm so thankful we're having this conversation because, 415 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:03,040 S1: as you just said, and thank you for your transparency 416 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,280 S1: and boldness in saying that the more you've studied this, 417 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,479 S1: the more it is a political structure. I want to 418 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,920 S1: get to that because I think this is the conundrum 419 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,800 S1: for most believers. They want, I hope, at least, to 420 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,760 S1: walk right in alliance with Jesus when he said he's 421 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,760 S1: not willing that any should perish, but that all should 422 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,240 S1: come to repentance. And that means whether you're a Buddhist, 423 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,460 S1: a Hindu, a muslim, a Jew, a a Christian, or 424 00:23:24,460 --> 00:23:27,060 S1: someone who's an atheist. We want you to know Jesus 425 00:23:27,060 --> 00:23:30,100 S1: as your personal Lord and Savior. But then you look 426 00:23:30,100 --> 00:23:32,659 S1: at these other views and you think, but there's not 427 00:23:32,660 --> 00:23:36,540 S1: so much this idea of, we're going to change your culture, 428 00:23:36,540 --> 00:23:38,340 S1: we're going to change your world. We're going to change 429 00:23:38,340 --> 00:23:41,139 S1: your language. I saw a video today of the mayor 430 00:23:41,140 --> 00:23:44,899 S1: of New York praying with several police officers, none of 431 00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:48,300 S1: whom identified as Muslims, and they were praying in an 432 00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:50,739 S1: Islamic fashion with their hands up before them, covering their 433 00:23:50,740 --> 00:23:53,540 S1: face after they were done. And I thought, I don't 434 00:23:53,540 --> 00:23:56,859 S1: know if they're interested, if they're converts or they're being 435 00:23:56,859 --> 00:23:59,100 S1: coerced and having to do that. And it's the system 436 00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:02,219 S1: of coercion that creates the problem I want to tackle 437 00:24:02,220 --> 00:24:05,300 S1: first if we can. Fouad, this idea of where they're 438 00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:09,020 S1: coming from spiritually and then second, how that works in 439 00:24:09,060 --> 00:24:14,460 S1: to their idea of global islamification, which is exactly particularly 440 00:24:14,460 --> 00:24:16,260 S1: in Iran, we know this is what's happening as well, 441 00:24:16,260 --> 00:24:18,460 S1: but we're seeing more and more of this idea of 442 00:24:18,460 --> 00:24:22,340 S1: the directive, the mandate for changing the culture until it's 443 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,080 S1: Islam ified. I don't want that to turn believers off. 444 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,120 S1: I want them to be faithful in going out and 445 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,720 S1: sharing the gospel. But we have to understand this. And 446 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,359 S1: you're a super teacher. I'm so glad you're here. I 447 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:53,320 S1: got a lot of questions after this. 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We have the privilege 456 00:25:22,220 --> 00:25:25,020 S1: to spend the hour with Fouad Masri, who's an author, 457 00:25:25,020 --> 00:25:28,900 S1: a lecturer, born and raised in Beirut, Lebanon, third generation 458 00:25:28,900 --> 00:25:31,859 S1: ordained pastor has a passion for sharing the love of 459 00:25:31,859 --> 00:25:34,700 S1: Christ with Muslims and for teaching us, the followers of Christ, 460 00:25:34,740 --> 00:25:37,420 S1: how to do just that. So in 1993, the Lord 461 00:25:37,420 --> 00:25:41,179 S1: led him to found Crescent Project to nurture transformational relationships 462 00:25:41,180 --> 00:25:44,060 S1: between Christians and Muslims. And not only that, but to 463 00:25:44,100 --> 00:25:46,420 S1: rally the church, to reach out to Muslims, to share 464 00:25:46,420 --> 00:25:48,580 S1: the good news of Christ. And we need to be 465 00:25:48,580 --> 00:25:51,620 S1: doing that through the gospel applies to all people in 466 00:25:51,619 --> 00:25:54,659 S1: all times and all places to help us. Fouad has 467 00:25:54,660 --> 00:25:57,660 S1: written a wonderful book called Sharing Jesus with Muslims a 468 00:25:57,660 --> 00:26:00,060 S1: Step by Step Guide. I've got it on my information page. 469 00:26:00,060 --> 00:26:02,860 S1: I commend it to you. It's a wonderful way for 470 00:26:02,859 --> 00:26:04,540 S1: you and I to learn how to do this, to 471 00:26:04,580 --> 00:26:07,619 S1: be able to be winsome, to understand, to discern, and 472 00:26:07,619 --> 00:26:09,660 S1: to prepare for. If I can put it in this way, 473 00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:13,980 S1: my missionary friends have taught me this, our transcultural missionary experience. 474 00:26:13,980 --> 00:26:16,500 S1: So here we are in the midst of Ramadan, and 475 00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:19,800 S1: we just understood through the excellent teaching of Fouad that 476 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,360 S1: this is a works based ministry. Here's the other thing, Fouad. 477 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,120 S1: Do Muslims have any concept about the love of God? 478 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,159 S1: I know they call him Allah and you make reference 479 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,000 S1: to this being a pagan god of old. But you know, 480 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,280 S1: the attractiveness for Christianity is that God so loved the 481 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,080 S1: world that he gave his son. And also in that 482 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,639 S1: while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us, and 483 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,040 S1: we can't begin to fathom the width, the depth, and 484 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,440 S1: the the love of God. So does the average Muslim 485 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,600 S1: have a concept of God? Is that in the hadith? 486 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,960 S1: Is it in the Quran? Do they know anything about that? 487 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,920 S10: No. Basically, the concept of relationship between humans and God 488 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,280 S10: is he's the master. We are the slaves. The best 489 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,880 S10: thing you could do in Islam is to obey God, 490 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,479 S10: to be the best slave of God. While in the 491 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,320 S10: Bible in John chapter 15, there's a beautiful verse that says, 492 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,280 S10: I no longer call you slaves because a slave does 493 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,320 S10: not know what the master is doing. I call you friends. 494 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,740 S10: And the Greek word which means best friends. Because I've 495 00:27:19,780 --> 00:27:22,700 S10: told you everything from the father. And that was a 496 00:27:22,980 --> 00:27:26,260 S10: a a very important verse for me changed my life 497 00:27:26,619 --> 00:27:29,699 S10: when I got saved, uh, in Beirut, Lebanon. And the 498 00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:32,939 S10: reason I love that verse, because it shows that the 499 00:27:32,940 --> 00:27:36,460 S10: relation between a parent and a child is a relationship 500 00:27:36,460 --> 00:27:42,020 S10: of love. The the more you love God, it's a 501 00:27:42,020 --> 00:27:46,340 S10: relationship of parenthood. If he's the Heavenly Father, the more 502 00:27:46,340 --> 00:27:49,580 S10: you fear God in the in the anger or the 503 00:27:49,980 --> 00:27:53,380 S10: the fearfulness of God. That means he's your master. And 504 00:27:53,380 --> 00:27:56,020 S10: that's what we're presenting many times, even people who are 505 00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:59,780 S10: maybe raised in this nation from Christian background, many times 506 00:27:59,780 --> 00:28:02,340 S10: they have a misunderstanding of the God of the Bible. 507 00:28:02,619 --> 00:28:04,500 S10: They see him as an angry God. They see him 508 00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:08,980 S10: as a God to fear. And here's Christ, the culmination, 509 00:28:08,980 --> 00:28:11,300 S10: according to Hebrews chapter one one and two says he 510 00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:14,900 S10: was the culmination. God spoke through many ways and many prophets, 511 00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:18,470 S10: but in these last days. He spoke through his son Jesus. 512 00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:21,669 S10: So he's the culmination of revelation for us. And Jesus 513 00:28:21,670 --> 00:28:24,629 S10: revealed to us a God who loves a God who 514 00:28:24,670 --> 00:28:30,510 S10: seeks a God who is unconditionally seeking us to come 515 00:28:30,550 --> 00:28:32,590 S10: be part of his family. So we don't have that 516 00:28:32,590 --> 00:28:35,949 S10: at all in Islam. There's one word that given to 517 00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:40,790 S10: Allah Wadud. Wadud means affectionate, and sometimes I use that 518 00:28:40,790 --> 00:28:44,110 S10: as a way to build the bridge that God cares. Um, 519 00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:48,670 S10: one of the, uh, Christian, uh, Christian sisters who took 520 00:28:48,670 --> 00:28:51,470 S10: our training, uh, she shared with me that she was 521 00:28:51,470 --> 00:28:54,670 S10: talking to a Turkish, uh, lady. And she said to her, 522 00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:57,270 S10: you know, do you know that God loves you? And 523 00:28:57,270 --> 00:28:59,670 S10: the Turkish lady says, no, God doesn't love me. That's 524 00:28:59,670 --> 00:29:03,590 S10: why I'm fasting. Ramadan. I want to earn his love. 525 00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:08,310 S10: And this is such a sad view of life, because 526 00:29:08,550 --> 00:29:11,430 S10: when you're a child, you don't have to earn the 527 00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:14,190 S10: love of your parents. You're a child, you're their son. 528 00:29:14,190 --> 00:29:18,890 S10: You're their daughter. You know it's in here. Christ comes 529 00:29:18,890 --> 00:29:21,650 S10: and says, no. God is much more than a father. 530 00:29:21,970 --> 00:29:25,050 S10: So that's sad. They don't see this. Um, in the 531 00:29:25,090 --> 00:29:28,530 S10: in the religion. On top of that, uh, what we 532 00:29:28,570 --> 00:29:32,690 S10: notice is that many times these religious activity is creating 533 00:29:32,690 --> 00:29:38,250 S10: a socialization to make sure everybody thinks the same. So 534 00:29:38,290 --> 00:29:42,170 S10: you want you find somebody saying, well, we're all Muslims here, 535 00:29:42,810 --> 00:29:45,210 S10: but what do you mean by that? It means they 536 00:29:45,210 --> 00:29:48,530 S10: already decided for everybody in their family, their daughter, their 537 00:29:49,210 --> 00:29:53,090 S10: their mother, their wife. But in reality, that's not true. 538 00:29:53,130 --> 00:29:56,330 S10: Many Muslims today are asking questions. When I started the 539 00:29:56,330 --> 00:30:00,330 S10: ministry in 93, we would hear of someone coming to faith, 540 00:30:00,490 --> 00:30:04,090 S10: maybe once a year from Muslim background. Right now I'm 541 00:30:04,090 --> 00:30:07,570 S10: praise Jesus that every week we hear of people getting baptized, 542 00:30:07,610 --> 00:30:11,050 S10: taking Bibles, downloading Bibles. We get a lot of hits 543 00:30:11,050 --> 00:30:14,430 S10: on our websites. I was talking to another ministry there, 544 00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:18,830 S10: there in Africa. And they're seeing baptisms happening in the 545 00:30:18,830 --> 00:30:24,430 S10: hundreds in, in very Muslim dominated country reports out of Muslim, uh, 546 00:30:24,430 --> 00:30:27,709 S10: another Muslim country that you say there are 99% Muslim 547 00:30:27,950 --> 00:30:31,950 S10: right now. The numbers have dropped. They're only 60% Muslim. 40% 548 00:30:31,950 --> 00:30:35,590 S10: of the country is claiming that they have become, uh, 549 00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:39,990 S10: the people became part of a Christian denomination, mostly evangelicals, 550 00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:44,390 S10: because of the work that's happening through internet, through coming in, 551 00:30:44,390 --> 00:30:47,990 S10: helping with relief, with education. And so people are starting 552 00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:50,870 S10: to compare the Bible to the Quran, and they're finding 553 00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:53,950 S10: that there's more in the Bible about God than what 554 00:30:53,950 --> 00:30:58,110 S10: the Quran presents. So this idea of Mamdani praying, which 555 00:30:58,350 --> 00:31:00,750 S10: I mean, I don't know how much is Muslim. I 556 00:31:00,910 --> 00:31:03,630 S10: I'm sure he doesn't read Arabic. I know he cannot 557 00:31:03,630 --> 00:31:06,910 S10: understand the Quran and Arabic, but for him to do 558 00:31:06,910 --> 00:31:09,790 S10: the salat in public. Okay, great. That looks more like 559 00:31:09,790 --> 00:31:15,370 S10: a publicity stunt Because even Islam teaches that when you 560 00:31:15,410 --> 00:31:18,210 S10: when you pray, you have to have a good attitude 561 00:31:18,210 --> 00:31:20,770 S10: that God looks at the heart. So if the idea 562 00:31:20,770 --> 00:31:24,170 S10: of a publicity stunt doing up front, he's already broken 563 00:31:24,210 --> 00:31:29,570 S10: the Quranic commandment because your your attitude should be pure 564 00:31:29,570 --> 00:31:33,210 S10: in front of God. But regardless, he's trying to do socialization. 565 00:31:33,210 --> 00:31:37,170 S10: He's trying to say, you know, we have overcome. We're 566 00:31:37,170 --> 00:31:42,410 S10: now the winners. Islam is conquering us. And that's so 567 00:31:42,410 --> 00:31:46,770 S10: sad because it's a us and them relationship. While Christ 568 00:31:46,770 --> 00:31:51,410 S10: was bringing people together when our Savior was asked do 569 00:31:51,410 --> 00:31:54,930 S10: we pay tax? He used that to bring people together. 570 00:31:55,330 --> 00:31:58,210 S10: I love his answer. His answer was Render to Caesar 571 00:31:58,210 --> 00:32:01,210 S10: what is Caesar's. If you're going to use the Roman system, 572 00:32:01,650 --> 00:32:03,810 S10: then you have to follow the system. You want to 573 00:32:03,810 --> 00:32:07,810 S10: follow God's system, then you do God's way. And bringing 574 00:32:07,810 --> 00:32:10,950 S10: people together. We see that with the Samaritan woman, we 575 00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:14,270 S10: see that even with Zacchaeus, Christ walks under the tree 576 00:32:14,830 --> 00:32:19,030 S10: and invites himself. It's such a beautiful way. He invites 577 00:32:19,030 --> 00:32:24,230 S10: himself for dinner, and Zacchaeus was ecstatic that the Rabbi 578 00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:27,950 S10: would come visit him. And like how you're saying that 579 00:32:27,950 --> 00:32:31,230 S10: today in during Ramadan, we have a great opportunity. You know, 580 00:32:31,270 --> 00:32:33,710 S10: I pray maybe one day I'll have dinner with Mamdani 581 00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:37,350 S10: and get to tell him about how Christ saved my life. 582 00:32:37,870 --> 00:32:41,150 S10: But the point is, it doesn't matter who is in 583 00:32:41,150 --> 00:32:44,790 S10: our circle of influence. This is a time when they 584 00:32:44,790 --> 00:32:47,990 S10: are thinking about God. They are trying to prove to 585 00:32:48,030 --> 00:32:52,870 S10: God that they're worthy of being loved and and saved. Well, 586 00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:56,590 S10: let's seize the opportunity. Let's seize the platform. And we 587 00:32:56,590 --> 00:32:58,670 S10: ask people to pray with us. We ask people to 588 00:32:58,710 --> 00:33:02,190 S10: pray every day for Muslims to see a dream of 589 00:33:02,190 --> 00:33:05,550 S10: Jesus or a vision, or meet somebody who'll tell them 590 00:33:05,550 --> 00:33:10,810 S10: about Christ. And you'll be surprised how God opens the 591 00:33:10,810 --> 00:33:13,770 S10: doors when we ask him. I've been doing ministry more 592 00:33:13,770 --> 00:33:16,970 S10: than 35 years, and I've praised Jesus that every time 593 00:33:16,970 --> 00:33:20,130 S10: I talk to somebody about Christ, I discover that Jesus 594 00:33:20,130 --> 00:33:26,890 S10: was there before me. I mean, it's like, what? That 595 00:33:27,650 --> 00:33:31,850 S10: I was in Portland, Oregon. I met an Iraqi older gentleman, 596 00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:34,490 S10: and he doesn't speak very good English. And I met 597 00:33:34,490 --> 00:33:37,890 S10: him through a church that's doing refugee ministry. And he goes, 598 00:33:37,930 --> 00:33:40,530 S10: do you speak Arabic? I said, yes, he goes, man, 599 00:33:40,530 --> 00:33:44,170 S10: I'm trying to get the American friend here. I want 600 00:33:44,210 --> 00:33:46,090 S10: to ask him a favor. What's your favorite? He goes, 601 00:33:46,130 --> 00:33:48,610 S10: ten years ago, I had a dream of Jesus, and 602 00:33:48,610 --> 00:33:51,250 S10: I've been looking for an Arabic in an Arabic Bible. 603 00:33:51,810 --> 00:33:54,810 S10: I said, it's okay, we'll get you one. And I think, like, wow, 604 00:33:54,850 --> 00:33:57,730 S10: ten years. This man is looking for an Arabic New Testament. 605 00:33:58,250 --> 00:34:01,090 S10: And he had a dream of Jesus. And for me, 606 00:34:01,090 --> 00:34:03,690 S10: I had to do nothing but just show up. You know, 607 00:34:03,730 --> 00:34:05,969 S10: I just showed up and the guy showed me the 608 00:34:05,970 --> 00:34:08,670 S10: dream and we were able to get him an Arabic 609 00:34:08,670 --> 00:34:12,149 S10: English New Testament. And what a joy that we are 610 00:34:12,150 --> 00:34:15,430 S10: part of this job that God gives us to be 611 00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:16,270 S10: an ambassador. 612 00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:19,469 S1: Yes. And boy, I sure wouldn't do it that way. 613 00:34:19,469 --> 00:34:22,989 S1: I wouldn't pour this imperishable message into cracked earthen vessels. 614 00:34:22,989 --> 00:34:25,390 S1: But he does. And I just think it's such an 615 00:34:25,390 --> 00:34:26,870 S1: honor to be able to do it. And, oh, Lord, 616 00:34:26,870 --> 00:34:29,230 S1: forgive us for our reticence in doing this. So a 617 00:34:29,230 --> 00:34:31,310 S1: couple of pragmatics. And then in the last segment, I 618 00:34:31,310 --> 00:34:33,109 S1: really do want to look at the political structure. And 619 00:34:33,110 --> 00:34:35,430 S1: the reason I do is because I think it becomes 620 00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:37,950 S1: an excuse or a deterrent for us to share the gospel, 621 00:34:37,989 --> 00:34:40,549 S1: because after all, it is that us and them and 622 00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:43,790 S1: they're going to take over. I have to practice self-preservation, 623 00:34:43,790 --> 00:34:47,230 S1: not share the gospel. I have to practice self-preservation. Understandable 624 00:34:47,230 --> 00:34:50,750 S1: but problematic. So in Ramadan, because there is a time 625 00:34:50,750 --> 00:34:52,670 S1: when the sun goes down, when the when the fast 626 00:34:52,670 --> 00:34:55,870 S1: is broken, would it be inappropriate for us, as followers 627 00:34:55,870 --> 00:34:57,950 S1: of Jesus, to say to our Muslim friends, can you 628 00:34:57,950 --> 00:35:00,790 S1: break the fast at my house tonight? Or are there 629 00:35:00,790 --> 00:35:04,069 S1: rituals and requirements when that feast is broken? Or is 630 00:35:04,070 --> 00:35:04,990 S1: a meal a meal? 631 00:35:05,890 --> 00:35:09,050 S10: Yeah, it's a very good point. Majority of Muslims today 632 00:35:09,050 --> 00:35:13,129 S10: are nominal, so chances are they might say they're fasting, 633 00:35:13,489 --> 00:35:17,170 S10: but it's shame and honor culture. So we're probably broken 634 00:35:17,210 --> 00:35:20,810 S10: the fast. Uh, many times people break the they eat 635 00:35:20,850 --> 00:35:23,250 S10: during the day and then they pay something to the mosque. 636 00:35:23,850 --> 00:35:28,330 S10: So the chances are finding somebody really keeping the fast rigid. 637 00:35:28,370 --> 00:35:33,049 S10: It's probably not possible. However, if you ask them, hey, 638 00:35:33,090 --> 00:35:36,089 S10: can you break fast in my house, many times they 639 00:35:36,090 --> 00:35:38,730 S10: invite you to their home, which is great. I would 640 00:35:38,730 --> 00:35:43,490 S10: definitely go, uh, that's no problem. I would even ask questions, 641 00:35:43,650 --> 00:35:47,290 S10: you know, enter with respect, be a learner. Uh, always 642 00:35:47,290 --> 00:35:49,930 S10: tell the truth, always tell the truth, and always tell 643 00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:52,930 S10: the truth in love. And love doesn't mean you agree 644 00:35:52,930 --> 00:35:54,969 S10: with him. You don't have to agree with them. But 645 00:35:54,969 --> 00:35:59,250 S10: you can be respectful because that's who our Savior is. Respect. 646 00:35:59,290 --> 00:36:02,490 S10: We respect out of love. That's one thing. The second 647 00:36:02,489 --> 00:36:05,270 S10: thing is that if they come to your house, great. 648 00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:07,870 S10: Just make sure they say, is there any food you 649 00:36:07,870 --> 00:36:11,590 S10: don't want to eat? Yeah. Most people say, don't cook pork. 650 00:36:11,630 --> 00:36:15,350 S10: That's good. It's safe. But sometimes they might say to you, oh, 651 00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:19,030 S10: we don't care. And today I know that Iranian people, 652 00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:21,750 S10: most of them are not fasting. They're down the street 653 00:36:21,790 --> 00:36:23,830 S10: rioting against their government. 654 00:36:23,870 --> 00:36:28,629 S1: Exactly, exactly. Oh, I so appreciate the pragmatics on that. 655 00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:30,910 S1: Thank you so much. I want you to read the 656 00:36:30,910 --> 00:36:34,310 S1: book Sharing Jesus with Muslims A step by step Guide. 657 00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:36,870 S1: It's right there on my information page. Just click on 658 00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:39,509 S1: the box that's under the summation of each hour. And 659 00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:41,750 S1: it says Program Details and Audio. And it'll take you 660 00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:53,990 S1: over to the information page back after this. So thrilled 661 00:36:53,989 --> 00:36:56,030 S1: that we get to spend the hour with Fouad Masri 662 00:36:56,030 --> 00:36:57,910 S1: and Fouad. This is not going to be our last conversation. 663 00:36:57,910 --> 00:37:00,549 S1: This is such a crucial and timely conversation. By the way, 664 00:37:00,550 --> 00:37:03,730 S1: whether it's Ramadan or not, What is the head of 665 00:37:03,770 --> 00:37:06,489 S1: the Crescent Project, a fabulous ministry. It really is about 666 00:37:06,489 --> 00:37:08,689 S1: reaching out to Muslims, but it's also teaching us, as 667 00:37:08,690 --> 00:37:12,330 S1: followers of Jesus, how we likewise can join in to 668 00:37:12,370 --> 00:37:15,210 S1: that service of making disciples of all men. And that 669 00:37:15,210 --> 00:37:18,649 S1: includes sharing with our brothers and sisters who do not 670 00:37:18,690 --> 00:37:21,290 S1: yet know the Lord as their personal Savior, and are 671 00:37:21,530 --> 00:37:24,890 S1: working within the parameters of a workspace religion. And if 672 00:37:24,890 --> 00:37:27,050 S1: that doesn't break your heart, by the way, then awake, 673 00:37:27,050 --> 00:37:29,489 S1: O sleeper, because it should. You and I know the 674 00:37:29,530 --> 00:37:31,489 S1: gift of grace now. And we know his mercy. And 675 00:37:31,489 --> 00:37:33,969 S1: we know his unconditional love. To think that you have 676 00:37:33,969 --> 00:37:36,370 S1: to constantly be doing, doing, doing, doing. And at the 677 00:37:36,370 --> 00:37:38,290 S1: end of your life, there's literally a scale where your 678 00:37:38,290 --> 00:37:41,170 S1: good deeds are weighed against your bad deeds. And Allah, 679 00:37:41,170 --> 00:37:44,049 S1: who makes no mention of his love for you. And 680 00:37:44,050 --> 00:37:46,930 S1: there really isn't a full conception of sin and redemption 681 00:37:46,930 --> 00:37:50,450 S1: at all in Islam. That's how you live your life. So, um, 682 00:37:50,489 --> 00:37:53,330 S1: it's it's it should break your heart. If it doesn't, 683 00:37:53,330 --> 00:37:55,130 S1: then I think we're going to have a ton more 684 00:37:55,130 --> 00:37:58,370 S1: of these conversations. But I'm looking for the encumbrances for 685 00:37:58,370 --> 00:38:01,509 S1: people to do this as more and more people, who 686 00:38:01,550 --> 00:38:05,270 S1: are followers of Islam, whether they're, um, tangential or whether 687 00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:08,390 S1: they're ardent, it's almost immaterial. It is the political structure 688 00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:10,310 S1: that I think makes a lot of believers pull back. 689 00:38:10,350 --> 00:38:12,390 S1: So you talked about being in that train in Birmingham, 690 00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:14,310 S1: and I'm so I love that story, by the way. 691 00:38:14,310 --> 00:38:15,989 S1: I would love to have been a fly on the 692 00:38:15,989 --> 00:38:18,630 S1: wall during the course of that conversation. But let's take 693 00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:22,870 S1: England as an example. So you're allowed to have the 694 00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:26,110 S1: call to prayer five times a day in a village 695 00:38:26,110 --> 00:38:29,670 S1: in England, and the government doesn't push back. They're actually 696 00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:33,310 S1: looking at the definition of the word Islamophobia in England 697 00:38:33,310 --> 00:38:35,870 S1: right now before the Parliament. And if you were to 698 00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:38,069 S1: preach the full counsel of God, you can bet the 699 00:38:38,070 --> 00:38:41,029 S1: way the legislation is proposed right now, you'd hit the 700 00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:44,630 S1: tripwire and you could be penalized or jailed or something worse. 701 00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:47,390 S1: So and there is due deference that seems to be 702 00:38:47,390 --> 00:38:50,910 S1: given to the Muslim community as opposed to the Christian 703 00:38:50,910 --> 00:38:53,910 S1: or any other community. And it's why I think on 704 00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:57,109 S1: May 14th, you're going to see this huge four country 705 00:38:57,310 --> 00:39:00,650 S1: rally that's going to take place England, Scotland, Wales and 706 00:39:00,690 --> 00:39:03,370 S1: Northern Ireland, and it's pushing back to try to put 707 00:39:03,370 --> 00:39:06,010 S1: back in place what they say are the basic values 708 00:39:06,010 --> 00:39:09,250 S1: that define the United Kingdom. So for every action in 709 00:39:09,250 --> 00:39:11,009 S1: physics and in the world, for every action, there's an 710 00:39:11,010 --> 00:39:14,170 S1: equal and opposite reaction. So people are pushing back. And 711 00:39:14,730 --> 00:39:17,529 S1: so it's a reality. But that doesn't take you know, 712 00:39:17,570 --> 00:39:20,049 S1: it's not an either or. It's a both and. And 713 00:39:20,050 --> 00:39:22,850 S1: I want believers to understand that the call to evangelize 714 00:39:22,850 --> 00:39:26,009 S1: doesn't get mitigated by whatever the cultural circumstances are. But 715 00:39:26,010 --> 00:39:29,610 S1: walk me through this because Imam after Imam and the 716 00:39:29,610 --> 00:39:31,850 S1: United States, and you're seeing how many Sharia courts are 717 00:39:31,850 --> 00:39:33,690 S1: being set in the United States and how many mosques 718 00:39:33,690 --> 00:39:35,529 S1: are being built in Texas, and the list goes on 719 00:39:35,530 --> 00:39:37,810 S1: and on and on. And people are saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 720 00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:40,610 S1: I'm not going to be a part of your taking over. 721 00:39:40,650 --> 00:39:42,890 S1: And rather than stepping into the fire, we pull back. 722 00:39:42,890 --> 00:39:43,610 S1: What do we do? 723 00:39:44,370 --> 00:39:47,689 S10: That's a very important question because many times we're kind 724 00:39:47,730 --> 00:39:51,570 S10: of trying to commit suicide as we're trying to be nice. Yes, 725 00:39:51,610 --> 00:39:53,850 S10: we want to be nice. Absolutely. We want to welcome 726 00:39:53,850 --> 00:39:56,850 S10: the stranger. But this country let me talk about UK 727 00:39:56,850 --> 00:40:02,140 S10: and the United States. These are foundational principles that created 728 00:40:02,140 --> 00:40:06,580 S10: a safe country which were following the Bible. Even even now, 729 00:40:06,580 --> 00:40:11,420 S10: with the arrest of Prince Andrew, the so-called Prince Andrew. Okay. 730 00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:15,140 S10: Why was he arrested? Because he had a sexual relationship 731 00:40:15,140 --> 00:40:18,900 S10: with a minor. Well, if Islam conquers UK and they 732 00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:22,060 S10: have Sharia, Islam, you will not arrest him because you're 733 00:40:22,060 --> 00:40:24,940 S10: allowed to, as a man, to have sexual relations with 734 00:40:24,940 --> 00:40:28,060 S10: someone as young as six years old. In the Constitution 735 00:40:28,060 --> 00:40:30,700 S10: of Iran, the age of majority for a woman is 736 00:40:30,700 --> 00:40:36,020 S10: 6.9 years. It's ridiculous. So Sharia Islam has failed in 737 00:40:36,020 --> 00:40:40,860 S10: my book. Um, sharing Muslims have chapter 21. The title 738 00:40:40,860 --> 00:40:45,100 S10: was called Questions Muslims Cannot Answer. We changed it to 739 00:40:45,140 --> 00:40:48,380 S10: make it a little bit nicer. Uh, the the nature 740 00:40:48,380 --> 00:40:52,060 S10: of Islamic law in in Sharia, Islam doesn't work because 741 00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:57,160 S10: the first loser are Muslim women. The second losers are non-Muslims, 742 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,759 S10: Christian Jewish minorities. So we don't want Sharia, Islam. We 743 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,280 S10: know it doesn't work when you study it and compare 744 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,880 S10: it to the biblical law and UK law and United 745 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,960 S10: States law, which was based on Christian foundation. Let's not 746 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,520 S10: kid ourselves. I mean, the simple thing. I came to 747 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,000 S10: America and I noticed that you trust people in the 748 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,759 S10: stores like you, you know, uh, that people will not 749 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,440 S10: shoplift in the Middle East. Things are always behind a 750 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,160 S10: counter because we don't trust that people are going to 751 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,960 S10: walk in without stealing. So this is the struggle I 752 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,359 S10: have when I see people say, well, we want to 753 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,520 S10: allow Sharia law. Well, have you read Sharia law? Mamdani 754 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,240 S10: swears on the Quran. Okay, the Quran says it's Allah. 755 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,480 S10: It's okay to kill Jews and Christians, and it's also 756 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,839 S10: allowed to take their money. Well, I don't want them 757 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,520 S10: to swear on the Quran. I can't even believe that 758 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,240 S10: the United States allowed them to swear in a book 759 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,299 S10: that gives you permission, that Allah loves you when you 760 00:41:55,340 --> 00:41:58,820 S10: kill someone else. That's not at least the Word of God. 761 00:41:58,820 --> 00:42:02,100 S10: The Bible says clearly. Do unto others what you want 762 00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,819 S10: them to do unto you. Love your neighbor as yourself. 763 00:42:05,540 --> 00:42:07,859 S10: Love your enemies. So at least in the Bible, I 764 00:42:07,860 --> 00:42:09,900 S10: have some words that this person is going to be 765 00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:13,299 S10: my friend. But now I don't know. Is is is 766 00:42:13,340 --> 00:42:16,779 S10: the mayor of New York doing things good for the 767 00:42:16,780 --> 00:42:19,180 S10: Jewish community? Is he going to take care of the 768 00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:22,420 S10: Christian community, or is he there only for the Muslim community? 769 00:42:22,420 --> 00:42:26,020 S10: Because according to America, he should be fair to everyone? 770 00:42:26,420 --> 00:42:34,340 S10: Shariah Islam also has failed. You can look at Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan. 771 00:42:34,380 --> 00:42:38,580 S10: It's failed. In Turkey, it failed. It's not working in 772 00:42:38,580 --> 00:42:41,940 S10: Saudi Arabia. It's not working. The new prince that the 773 00:42:41,940 --> 00:42:44,420 S10: crown prince is trying to change. He's he's kind of 774 00:42:44,460 --> 00:42:47,419 S10: brilliant guy. He's trying to change things to open up 775 00:42:47,420 --> 00:42:50,820 S10: the country. But we are in a major struggle today 776 00:42:50,820 --> 00:42:55,200 S10: that Shariah Islam has failed. It allows slavery. It's practice 777 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,960 S10: in Mauritania. Mauritania. They have still slave trades. And it's 2026. 778 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:07,120 S10: So the concept of culture is good, but the gospel 779 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,839 S10: transforms culture. What happened to the Western culture? It was 780 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,880 S10: transformed by the Bible in, uh, I think the Magna 781 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,760 S10: Carta was a result where people said we're all created equal. The, uh, 782 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,319 S10: the Constitution of the United States starts that we are 783 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,000 S10: endowed by our creator. It's a biblical influence on politics. 784 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,200 S10: And so as Christians, we want to share the gospel 785 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,080 S10: because the gospel change lives. But also we want to 786 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,320 S10: take a stand. I don't want to live under Sharia Islam. 787 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,839 S10: There's no way I'm going to raise my daughter or 788 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,080 S10: my son under Sharia Islam. It does not work. 789 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,280 S1: So in a nutshell, I can still be winsome, always 790 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,640 S1: remembering my call as an ambassador for Christ. I can 791 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,120 S1: adhere to the directive of in Ephesians to speak the 792 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,759 S1: truth and to do it in love. If we get 793 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,500 S1: a proper understanding of what love means, but it isn't 794 00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:56,219 S1: an either or. So I can share Jesus with my 795 00:43:56,219 --> 00:43:59,020 S1: Muslim friends, but I can also say I will use 796 00:43:59,020 --> 00:44:02,020 S1: my voice in the public square to speak against public policy. 797 00:44:02,020 --> 00:44:05,700 S1: That in the end hurts people, doesn't help them. Is 798 00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:08,180 S1: all of that under the canopy of being obedient to Christ? 799 00:44:08,620 --> 00:44:11,460 S10: Amen. We have a role to be sold in our community, 800 00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:13,819 S10: and that means we run for school boards. We run 801 00:44:13,820 --> 00:44:17,900 S10: for office. We run into governments. We run into businesses. 802 00:44:18,100 --> 00:44:21,259 S10: Businesses need to be run with biblical influence as well 803 00:44:21,260 --> 00:44:24,779 S10: as politics. It's not either or. We are light and 804 00:44:24,780 --> 00:44:26,020 S10: salt in the darkness. 805 00:44:26,380 --> 00:44:26,740 S5: Oh. 806 00:44:27,140 --> 00:44:30,420 S1: What a fabulous but far too short conversation. Thought I'm 807 00:44:30,420 --> 00:44:32,779 S1: already looking forward to our next time. I want to 808 00:44:32,820 --> 00:44:34,460 S1: walk through some of these steps in your book the 809 00:44:34,460 --> 00:44:36,219 S1: next time we get together. I also want to open 810 00:44:36,219 --> 00:44:38,419 S1: the phone lines for questions, so I want people can 811 00:44:38,420 --> 00:44:40,819 S1: ask very practical, hands on ways in which they can 812 00:44:40,820 --> 00:44:43,100 S1: share the love of Christ with their Muslim friends. The 813 00:44:43,100 --> 00:44:45,859 S1: Lord bless you and may he enlarge your territory for God. 814 00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:47,859 S1: Thank you so much for this time. Thank you friends. 815 00:44:47,860 --> 00:44:49,299 S1: We'll see you next time on In the Market with 816 00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:50,140 S1: Janet Parshall.