WEBVTT - Hour 2: More Independence Day Weekend Mailbag

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<v S1>Hello friends. It's time for the second hour of Open

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<v S1>Line with me, Doctor Michael Moody Radio's Bible Study Across America.

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<v S1>We're talking about your questions about the Bible, God and

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<v S1>the spiritual life. I'm Michael Redlich, professor of Jewish studies

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<v S1>at Moody Bible Institute, and I'm coming to you from

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<v S1>Moody's downtown Chicago campus. If you have a Bible question today,

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<v S1>don't call me the reason you shouldn't call me. It's

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<v S1>sent in a lot of questions. We're trying to clear

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<v S1>the spindle and get them out of here and answer

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<v S1>as many questions as we can to help me do that.

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<v S1>I've got Eva right here. She's my wife. You may

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<v S1>know that, but really, she's my colleague at Moody Bible Institute.

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<v S1>She's on the faculty there. She contributed to the Moody

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<v S1>Bible Commentary and to the Moody Handbook of Messianic Prophecy.

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<v S1>And also joining me is Tricia McMillan. She is the

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<v S1>producer of Open Line. You hear her every week during

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<v S1>the Febc Mailbag edition, the Febc mailbag segment, when we

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<v S1>talk about that. And that's always great. But now you've

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<v S1>got a huge mailbag and you're covering all our questions.

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<v S2>I do.

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<v S1>Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's see what we can, uh,

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<v S1>what we can get to this hour. We're trying our

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<v S1>best to answer all of these questions.

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<v S2>All right. William from Ohio listens on the mobile app

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<v S2>and asks, why does the temple become significant again in

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<v S2>revelation at the abomination of Desolation, it seems it was

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<v S2>made insignificant at Christ's death when the temple veil was

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<v S2>torn them. There isn't a need for a temple in

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<v S2>the end times, so how could it be desecrated if

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<v S2>God is no longer in the temple or recognizing the temple?

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<v S1>I'd start by saying there's nothing in the New Testament

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<v S1>that deprecates the temple. It does say that the blood

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<v S1>of bulls and goats in the book of Hebrews didn't

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<v S1>take away sin, even in the Old Testament temple. It

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<v S1>always pointed forward to the those sacrifices were pointing forward

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<v S1>to the messianic sacrifice. Um, and uh, but also early,

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<v S1>if you look in the book of acts, even after

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<v S1>the temple veil was rent, the early believers went to

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<v S1>the temple. Isn't that interesting? Uh, in the early chapters

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<v S1>of acts, even Paul goes to the temple at, uh,

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<v S1>at James suggestion when he comes back to Jerusalem. So.

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<v S1>there's nothing bad about the temple. The. The Tribulation temple

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<v S1>will be rebuilt, uh, by people who don't yet believe

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<v S1>in Jesus. And they are going to. I don't know

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<v S1>how or when, but Jewish people will be worshipping in

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<v S1>the temple until the future false messiah tries to tell

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<v S1>them he's God and they should worship him. And that's

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<v S1>when they they refuse, and that's when he turns, breaks

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<v S1>his covenant with Israel and begins to persecute them. But

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<v S1>also there will be a temple once again, looking back,

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<v S1>remembering the sacrifices that were made. You can read about

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<v S1>that in Ezekiel 40 through 48. It talks about a

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<v S1>future millennial millennial temple. Also in Zechariah 14 it talks

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<v S1>about that. And so there's going to be a temple

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<v S1>that remembers the sacrificial system, remembers the sacrifice of the

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<v S1>Messiah Jesus, by reestablishing a sacrificial system in the messianic kingdom.

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<v S3>And in the The Tearing of the veil doesn't wasn't

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<v S3>a comment on the the temple being bad, but it

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<v S3>was showing the.

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<v S1>The finality of the sacrifice.

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<v S3>Of the sacrifice.

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<v S2>Okay. All right. Thanks for that question, William. Next question

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<v S2>is from Helen in Indiana, listens on WGN. I'm studying

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<v S2>Ezekiel and trying to understand it in Ezekiel 44. I've

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<v S2>always assumed that the prince is the Messiah. But in

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<v S2>Ezekiel 45, verse 22, the prince makes a sin offering.

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<v S2>How could it be? The Messiah is he does not sin.

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<v S2>Are the latter days the millennial reign? And if so,

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<v S2>why are there sacrifices? Okay, so I know you've just

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<v S2>kind of covered.

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<v S1>This a little. I'll answer that in a minute. But

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<v S1>usually when a question comes up about Ezekiel, I just say,

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<v S1>I don't know, ask Eva because she wrote the commentary

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<v S1>with Charlie Dyer in the Moody Bible commentary on Ezekiel. So?

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<v S2>So, Eva. Yeah.

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<v S3>Well, let me just let's just look at the Moody

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<v S3>Bible Commentary, which I think is a great tool, and

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<v S3>I recommend all of our listeners and friends to get

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<v S3>this great tool because it goes through the scriptures, verse

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<v S3>by verse, answering the the big questions, showing how everything

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<v S3>relates together. Very messianic in its appreciation for the message

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<v S3>of the Bible. So here's here's Ezekiel's what we say

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<v S3>in in the Moody Bible Commentary just on this passage. It,

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<v S3>it says that, that, um, it says although the gate

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<v S3>will be shut in the, in the in for the

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<v S3>temple area, the area of the gate will be used

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<v S3>by the prince, which she is saying she's thinking of

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<v S3>as being the Messiah. But I think the clues in

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<v S3>the text are that it is not the Messiah. The

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<v S3>Hebrew word translated prince in most translations is the word nasi,

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<v S3>which would be better translated as the leader. The leader

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<v S3>will sit in the gate and and render judgments and

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<v S3>settling affairs, although some have suggested this is the Messiah.

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<v S3>The evidence is to the contrary. This prince or leader

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<v S3>is not the Messiah because first of all, the leader

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<v S3>made a sin offering for himself an act that would

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<v S3>be unnecessary for the sinless Messiah. Secondly, this prince or

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<v S3>leader has natural children. Another impossibility for the God-Man Messiah Jesus.

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<v S3>And thirdly, he will have a special portion of a

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<v S3>land allotted to him, whereas all the land belongs to

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<v S3>King Messiah. So? So it's not the Messiah, but it

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<v S3>is a leader who will be functioning under the kingship

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<v S3>of Messiah in the millennial period.

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<v S2>All right.

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<v S1>So now the question is, why have the offering which

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<v S1>I mentioned before, but I just want to the offerings

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<v S1>in the Old Testament, even sin offerings didn't take away sin.

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<v S1>The book of Hebrews makes it really clear they were

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<v S1>pointing forward. So even the sacrifices in the temple before

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<v S1>the their being destroyed didn't take away sin. So what

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<v S1>was the point of the sin offering? To point forward

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<v S1>to the Messiah. Now, what is the point of the

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<v S1>sin offering or the different sacrifices in the Millennial Temple?

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<v S1>The temple of the Kingdom? They would be to point

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<v S1>back to the death of the Messiah, because there will

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<v S1>be people who enter that messianic kingdom right away. When

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<v S1>Jesus takes, you know, the people who survive the campaign

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<v S1>of Armageddon that are the sheep in Matthew 25 and

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<v S1>that parable, the sheep and the goats, the Gentile nations

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<v S1>will enter who believe they will enter the kingdom, and

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<v S1>so will the Jewish people who are saved at the

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<v S1>end of the tribulation, when the Lord Jesus comes, they

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<v S1>cry out for him to be saved, and they will

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<v S1>not have resurrected bodies, neither will those nations. They will

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<v S1>enter the kingdom. They will marry, they will have kids,

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<v S1>and those kids will need to come to know the

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<v S1>Lord Jesus and death will be less common. It says

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<v S1>in Isaiah 65, in that millennial period, and because of that,

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<v S1>when we when it's explained to these people who are

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<v S1>born in the millennium. That Jesus died for your sins

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<v S1>and rose again. They may not quite get it. What

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<v S1>do you mean? He died? There he is. He's reigning

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<v S1>over us. And so, to help them understand the significance

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<v S1>of death, there will be a temple. There will be sacrifices.

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<v S1>There will be memorial sacrifices. Just the same way we

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<v S1>have the Lord's Supper today. Uh, to look back on

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<v S1>the death and resurrection and return. Look forward to the

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<v S1>return of the Lord Jesus. So then there will be

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<v S1>sacrifices to explain the death and resurrection of Jesus.

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<v S2>All right. I hope that helps you. Helen and the

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<v S2>Moody Bible Commentary. You might be a good resource for

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<v S2>you as you study Ezekiel.

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<v S1>Yeah, there's a good discussion about why their sacrifices as

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<v S1>well in the Moody Bible Commentary. Thank you. Eva. Yeah.

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<v S2>Thank you. Yes. Thank you very much. All right. So

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<v S2>let me find where my questions are here. I'm on

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<v S2>the wrong page. Hang on. Okay. Tim in Georgia listens

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<v S2>to Wpba. So, still talking about the temple? Sort of. Okay.

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<v S2>But now going New Testament. Uh, when Jesus went to

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<v S2>the temple and he overturned the money changers tables. Did

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<v S2>he do this twice? Uh, because the Gospel of John

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<v S2>seems to have it at the beginning of beginning of

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<v S2>his ministry, and Mark has it during the week before

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<v S2>his crucifixion. Or was there only one time that he

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<v S2>overturned the tables and the timing and the two is

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<v S2>just kind of different?

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<v S1>I think we have two options. We option one is that, uh,

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<v S1>in Mark, Mark and John disagree and they there's an error.

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<v S1>I don't like that option. Option two is there seemingly

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<v S1>were two cleansings of the temples, the temple two times.

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<v S1>That's the simplest answer. Makes sense. That's what most scholars

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<v S1>believe at the beginning of his ministry. At the end

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<v S1>of his earthly ministry.

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<v S2>Okay. They just didn't get it, huh?

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<v S3>Yeah, they just didn't understand it.

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<v S1>Yeah.

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<v S2>Or just waited for him to leave. Okay, now we

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<v S2>can set it back. Exactly. That's right. Yep. Okay. Hope

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<v S2>that helps. Tim. John in South Carolina listens to Wlp.

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<v S2>Does the Bible tell us why God chose the avenue

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<v S2>of salvation by Jesus Christ through his death on the

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<v S2>cross and the redemptive power of his blood? Leviticus 1711

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<v S2>tells us that the life of the flesh is in

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<v S2>the blood, and our atonement stems from this blood. Is

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<v S2>this the answer, or is there more? I want to

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<v S2>be able to justify our God to a non-believer who

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<v S2>questions your bloodthirsty God. Why would God choose this particular method,

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<v S2>which subjected Himself and His Son to the terrible torture

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<v S2>of the cross for the redemption of his people?

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<v S3>This is such a typical question from the New Atheist.

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<v S1>Yeah, well, let's just put it this way. First of all,

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<v S1>it's clear that a death for the soul that sins

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<v S1>it will die that there had to be a death

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<v S1>to pay for sin. And so God chose to take

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<v S1>the penalty. The penalty that we deserve. That's it. And

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<v S1>you know, you think about the father and the son.

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<v S1>Remember their triune. Let's emphasize the EWN aspect of that

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<v S1>triunity that when we talk about the Trinity, the tri

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<v S1>represents his threeness and the the nity represents his oneness, right? Unity.

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<v S1>God himself said, I will take this. It's not like

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<v S1>Jesus saying, no, no, the father hates me. He's sending

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<v S1>me to die. That's ridiculous. The the entire godhead agreed

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<v S1>on this. This is what Jesus said. No man takes

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<v S1>my life, but I lay it down willingly. That's what

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<v S1>Jesus said. And so now I've heard this question framed

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<v S1>this way in Isaiah 53 it says that God was

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<v S1>pleased to do this. Have you heard that expression? God

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<v S1>is pleased us to make him suffer. And they say,

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<v S1>look how, what a what a terrible, brutish father this is.

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<v S1>But the word pleased in Isaiah 53 actually means willing.

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<v S1>The Lord was willing to do this. Um, and I

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<v S1>think that that's really important because the father took no pleasure.

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<v S1>That's why it says he's willing, but he took no pleasure.

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<v S1>He wasn't pleased. Uh, because he God took no pleasure

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<v S1>in the death of the Messiah. The death of his son.

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<v S1>God the father didn't do that. Um. What the. The

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<v S1>example I would give is in the Holocaust. This happened

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<v S1>more times than we really want to admit, but there

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<v S1>would be people being hidden from the Nazis in a

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<v S1>back room or in a basement or something like that.

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<v S1>And just when the Gestapo was coming to to find them,

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<v S1>an infant baby would start to cry, just like in

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<v S1>the movie Sophie's Choice. The infant would start to cry,

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<v S1>and a mom might even take that baby and smother

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<v S1>the baby to her own breast to keep it from crying,

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<v S1>so that it would not expose the family members or

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<v S1>the other people and would take the life of her

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<v S1>own child. If you can imagine the horror of doing that,

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<v S1>to say that she was willing to do it, that

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<v S1>makes sense to save others, to say that she was

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<v S1>pleased would obviously be wrong. So? So God the Father

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<v S1>took the the Punishment through sending the son. He was

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<v S1>not pleased with the son's death, but he was willing.

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<v S1>That's how much he loved us for our redemption. And

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<v S1>I think that, uh, that's that's the answer I would give.

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<v S1>And listen, if a person's got a hard heart, they'll

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<v S1>never receive it. But if a person understands how much

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<v S1>God loves them, that he would be willing to do that,

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<v S1>then they'll be responsive to it. And so I can't

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<v S1>make a person change their mind. But that's my best

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<v S1>understanding of why God did that. So, uh, believe it

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<v S1>or not, I actually know met a woman who smothered

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<v S1>her own baby, hiding her children from a terrorist. Uh,

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<v S1>a Palestinian terrorist came into her home, and she was

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<v S1>hiding some of her children. She was holding her baby,

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<v S1>and she watched her husband being murdered by this terrorist

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<v S1>and smothered her own child to keep to protect the

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<v S1>other children with her.

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<v S3>Yep. Up in northern Israel. So sad.

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<v S1>And she took no pleasure in it. And so God

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<v S1>the Father was willing to give his son. And the

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<v S1>son said, no one takes my life. Hey, if you're listening,

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<v S1>Jesus loves us so much that he died willingly for

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<v S1>us and rose again. Don't become embittered at the father,

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<v S1>but thank him for it and trust in Jesus. We're

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<v S1>going to be back with more of your questions in

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<v S1>Let's keep going.

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<v S2>All right. Monica in Ohio listens on the mobile app.

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<v S2>I've heard binding and loosing talked about in churches for

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<v S2>many years and this is in Matthew 16. Can you

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<v S2>please elaborate on this subject?

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<v S1>It's actually a phrase from Rabbinic Judaism. To bind means

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<v S1>to forbid, to loose means to permit. And it was

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<v S1>used when it came to decisions that were made about

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<v S1>the law, about the commandments, in terms of rabbinic authority.

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<v S1>So what Jesus is using is just that language that

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<v S1>was understood to everyone. All the readers of the Gospel

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<v S1>of Matthew were Jewish initially, and when Jesus said those words,

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<v S1>he was speaking to a Jewish audience. They all knew it.

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<v S1>He said when. When the church comes into being and

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<v S1>they're exercising congregational discipline, the elders, whatever they say is binding,

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<v S1>will be bound in heaven. You know, and whatever they say, whenever,

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<v S1>when they make a legal judgment or whatever they say

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<v S1>is loosed or permitted, when they're going to say, okay,

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<v S1>you're released from this. The discipline isn't enacted that will

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<v S1>be recognized. It's basically saying that heaven is backing up

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<v S1>the authority of congregational leaders to make congregational discipline decisions.

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<v S1>That doesn't mean that they can do anything, even wrongly.

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<v S1>It just means that God's recognizing their authority when they

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<v S1>do it right. He will. Heaven will back it up.

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<v S2>Okay. All right. Thank you. Kenneth in Georgia, listens on

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<v S2>the Good News Network and says, I've been listening for

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<v S2>the last few Saturdays and I like your program. Yay!

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<v S2>My question is about our nature and the New Testament.

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<v S2>A believer gets a new nature and the Holy Spirit

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<v S2>to live a Christ like life. So how does a

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<v S2>Joe average Hebrew believer that was looking forward to Christ?

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<v S1>I think he's talking about an Old Testament believer there.

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<v S1>Joe average there. He should have said something like Joseph.

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<v S1>Joseph or Yaakov. Old Testament believer. Okay.

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<v S2>But but living in the New Testament time.

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<v S1>No, no. How does he. I mean, Old Testament believers.

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<v S2>Looking forward.

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<v S1>To Christ, to Christ live a Christ like life.

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<v S2>When his ungodly nature hasn't changed. I know the Holy

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<v S2>Spirit came on people, but that was usually just unimportant

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<v S2>people and only temporary.

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<v S1>I think the assumption is that there wasn't a changed

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<v S1>nature for Old Testament believers, but there is a changed nature.

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<v S1>You could see it in the life of Jacob. He

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<v S1>keeps saying, If God's faithful to me, then I will

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<v S1>make him my God. And then he comes back. God

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<v S1>kept him safe, brings him back, and he then builds

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<v S1>an altar and includes it. Calls it the God, the

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<v S1>God of Jacob. He's made God his God as well,

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<v S1>just like Abraham and Isaac. Uh, and there's a changed

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<v S1>nature in him. What it is, is, as a person

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<v S1>is living by faith. The Old Testament, they're living by

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<v S1>faith with an anticipation of the future Messiah. When they

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<v S1>put their trust in the God of Israel, that's part

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<v S1>of what their anticipation is. And God, based on that

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<v S1>future anticipation, can change their nature. It's it's living by faith.

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<v S2>And and Hebrews 11 illustrates this very well with all

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<v S2>of the people listed, even with the specific examples given.

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<v S2>And then, you know, I could say all of this

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<v S2>about these other people that yeah, he doesn't the author

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<v S2>doesn't go into detail about and just rattles off their

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<v S2>names and hundreds more. But but those those examples of

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<v S2>faith in Hebrews 11 and how they lived with that faith,

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<v S2>looking forward to the coming Messiah.

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<v S1>Yeah. I think sometimes we denigrate Old Testament believers as

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<v S1>if now, certainly I think we have more blessings. We

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<v S1>have the permanent Holy Spirit. The moment we believe there

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<v S1>definitely is better to be a believer in Jesus after Pentecost. But,

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<v S1>you know, yeah, it's better. We have greater spiritual blessing.

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<v S1>No question.

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<v S2>We have the we have this entire Bible that we

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<v S2>can look at to remind us, you know, it's not all.

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<v S1>But we shouldn't denigrate. It's not like they don't have

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<v S1>anything to say to us or model for us. That's

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<v S1>what Hebrews 12 says. This is the great cloud of

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<v S1>witnesses that reminds us to stay faithful. And, uh, so no.

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<v S1>And God could work in their lives and transform them

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<v S1>and did.

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<v S2>Yeah. Okay. Thanks for that question, Kenneth. Uh, Craig in

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<v S2>Florida listens on the mobile app. Uh, he says, by

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<v S2>God's grace and mercy, I was and am saved. June 22nd, 2003.

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<v S2>I was on fire for the Lord, singing, praising, studying

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<v S2>the word, attending church. And I left the church due

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<v S2>to a challenge there. So now I'm on my own

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<v S2>with the Lord.

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<v S1>A challenge with another person?

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<v S2>Yes. With. With another? Yeah, with another person in the church.

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<v S2>My problem is this. When I go to the Lord,

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<v S2>I'm so disappointed in myself and I almost always dread it.

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<v S2>I love coming to the Lord, but I'm so sick

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<v S2>of telling God that I agree with my sin and

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<v S2>repenting all the time. Um, I feel like I'm on

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<v S2>my knees telling him lies, knowing that I will fail,

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<v S2>and this makes me not want to come to him

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<v S2>because I know I'll disappoint him.

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<v S1>Well, it sounds to me that he always starts his

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<v S1>time with the Lord with confession. And I would say

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<v S1>that the I like the acts model of our time

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<v S1>with the Lord, which is adoration, confession, thanksgiving, supplication. Now

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<v S1>that's just one way that we can pray. But I

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<v S1>wouldn't make confession. First, I would make adoration of God first.

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<v S1>Worship of him for his nature and a great way

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<v S1>to develop a heart of adoration. I found reading Tozer's

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<v S1>book The Knowledge of the Holy or J.I. Packer's. Knowing God,

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<v S1>which deals with the attributes of God as we get

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<v S1>to know the attributes of God, worship him. It'll take

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<v S1>you time to get through those books. Worship him for

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<v S1>those attributes. Uh, as you're going through those books. So

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<v S1>I think start with worship instead of confession.

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<v S3>It's the Lord's Prayer. Our father, who art in heaven,

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<v S3>hallowed be your name. Holy be your name. That's a model, right?

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<v S1>It starts with.

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<v S3>With worship.

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<v S1>Uh, and confession is good. It's to agree with God.

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<v S1>He seems to understand that. But I'm just going to

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<v S1>say now you guys girls have to. You women. I

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<v S1>have to be.

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<v S3>Yeah.

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<v S1>Have to stop me. Okay, but I want to say, Craig,

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<v S1>I love you and I want what's best for you.

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<v S1>And it sounds to me that there's a problem. And

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<v S1>here's the problem isn't that you have to confess your

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<v S1>sin all the time. Because I do. And I'm always

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<v S1>so grateful that God forgives me. But why are you

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<v S1>not going to church? Maybe the first sin you need

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<v S1>to confess is disobeying Hebrews 1025. If you had a

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<v S1>problem with someone, you can't work it out. That's possible.

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<v S1>I'm not saying you have to go to that church.

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<v S3>That's Hebrews 1025. Do not forsake the assembling of yourselves together.

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<v S1>You're disobeying God. God wants you to be part of

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<v S1>a community. And that's what being part of a community is,

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<v S1>how he helps us recovering sinners recover from sin. That's

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<v S1>why we stimulate each other to love and good good deeds.

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<v S1>Part of the frustration that you feel about confessing your

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<v S1>sin will be overcome if you're part of a community.

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<v S3>It's interesting, he says about himself. I'm telling God lies. Well,

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<v S3>you think God doesn't know? I think you better straighten

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<v S3>up your, uh, conversations with God.

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<v S1>When we confess our sins, telling him lies, I'll never

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<v S1>do it again. Don't do it. Say I keep doing this. God,

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<v S1>thanks for forgiving me. Now, the cycle of life for

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<v S1>believers in first John one. It doesn't start with confession.

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<v S1>It starts with if we walk in the light as

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<v S1>he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another.

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<v S1>We have fellowship with God as we walk in the light,

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<v S1>and then we confess our sin. And then, uh, what

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<v S1>happens is we're walking in the light. We have fellowship.

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<v S1>We sin breaks fellowship with God. We confess it. We

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<v S1>agree with him that it was sin. He restores fellowship

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<v S1>with us. But let's start with walking in the light,

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<v S1>not with confession. And so if a person knows something

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<v S1>in Scripture that we're supposed to do it, we need

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<v S1>to do it. That's what James chapter three says. If

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<v S1>we know it, we need to do it. So, Craig,

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<v S1>go back to congregation, be part of a community, grow

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<v S1>in your walk with them. We're going to be right

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<v S1>trying to get to all the questions you have sent

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<v S1>in as you enjoy the holiday weekend. So let's go

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<v S1>back to the mailbag. Tricia.

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<v S2>All right. Next question is from Sally in Tennessee. Listens to.

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<v S2>And these are a couple of kind of witnessing questions

0:27:00.460 --> 0:27:03.100
<v S2>that we'll have here. I have a non-believing friend to

0:27:03.140 --> 0:27:05.260
<v S2>whom I'm trying to witness, and I don't know how,

0:27:05.540 --> 0:27:08.180
<v S2>looking for words that will help her see the truth.

0:27:08.220 --> 0:27:11.620
<v S2>She respects her religious tradition and does not read the Bible.

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<v S2>Do you have any wisdom or help for me?

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<v S1>So it sounds like she comes from a Christian tradition.

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<v S1>Maybe not an evangelical church, but Christian tradition. What would

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<v S1>you say to someone who doesn't want to read the Bible? Eva?

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<v S3>Well, I would I would say that perhaps the best

0:27:29.220 --> 0:27:32.100
<v S3>thing Sally could do would would first of all, talk

0:27:32.140 --> 0:27:35.340
<v S3>about how valuable the Bible is for her own life

0:27:35.340 --> 0:27:38.260
<v S3>in some specific areas and then say, maybe you want

0:27:38.300 --> 0:27:40.820
<v S3>to read together. She might be more interested in wanting

0:27:40.820 --> 0:27:42.700
<v S3>to read than Sally knows.

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<v S1>Because all Christian traditions, whether they're evangelical or not, are

0:27:47.660 --> 0:27:50.900
<v S1>have a recognize the authority and respect the Bible. What

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<v S1>did you what did you find about that, Tricia?

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<v S2>Oh, well, I my my church a couple of years

0:27:55.820 --> 0:27:58.460
<v S2>ago did a whole series on the Bible and just

0:27:58.460 --> 0:28:00.939
<v S2>opening the Bible and reading it. And the challenge given

0:28:00.940 --> 0:28:04.220
<v S2>to us was find a neighbor or a friend that

0:28:04.220 --> 0:28:06.739
<v S2>is unchurched and ask them if they would read the

0:28:06.740 --> 0:28:09.260
<v S2>Bible with you, and then we could use they had

0:28:09.260 --> 0:28:12.660
<v S2>developed this whole not a curriculum, but like help on

0:28:12.660 --> 0:28:17.060
<v S2>the church website that um, to help ask questions. And

0:28:17.060 --> 0:28:18.740
<v S2>so they had kind of made questions. So it started

0:28:18.740 --> 0:28:21.820
<v S2>in Genesis and went through revelation and just kind of

0:28:21.859 --> 0:28:25.500
<v S2>hit high points of the the Bible.

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<v S1>The Bible story?

0:28:26.460 --> 0:28:28.900
<v S2>Yes, the whole Bible story. 50. You know, it was

0:28:28.900 --> 0:28:31.380
<v S2>a full year thing. And so it was pretty easy

0:28:31.380 --> 0:28:33.139
<v S2>to just pick up, like if you didn't know anything

0:28:33.140 --> 0:28:34.660
<v S2>about the Bible, it was like, hey, would you read

0:28:34.660 --> 0:28:37.939
<v S2>the Bible with me? And I didn't do this, my friend.

0:28:37.940 --> 0:28:40.900
<v S2>I had several friends who did, and they were surprised

0:28:40.900 --> 0:28:43.260
<v S2>that their friend was like, sure, yeah, I'll read the

0:28:43.260 --> 0:28:47.620
<v S2>Bible with you. And the hardest part was asking, you know,

0:28:47.620 --> 0:28:51.100
<v S2>like getting past any fear you had that, oh, no,

0:28:51.140 --> 0:28:54.260
<v S2>they might fill in the blank, scoff at me or or.

0:28:54.260 --> 0:28:55.140
<v S3>They're not going to really want.

0:28:55.140 --> 0:28:57.900
<v S2>To know. Yeah. And and so you just set up

0:28:57.900 --> 0:29:00.500
<v S2>a time and, you know, get together and you could

0:29:00.500 --> 0:29:02.739
<v S2>do it over zoom if Sally, you could do it

0:29:02.740 --> 0:29:05.020
<v S2>over zoom. If you don't live near this friend or

0:29:05.780 --> 0:29:08.580
<v S2>if you do, you could get together and, you know,

0:29:08.620 --> 0:29:10.740
<v S2>have a cup of coffee and just read the Bible.

0:29:10.740 --> 0:29:12.620
<v S2>It doesn't have to be a lot. And then just

0:29:12.620 --> 0:29:13.340
<v S2>talk about it.

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<v S3>Yeah.

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<v S1>So, so.

0:29:14.980 --> 0:29:17.460
<v S3>Sometimes people are afraid to ask to invite their friend

0:29:17.460 --> 0:29:18.940
<v S3>to read the Bible with them because they think, oh,

0:29:18.980 --> 0:29:20.740
<v S3>my friend's going to have questions that I don't know

0:29:20.740 --> 0:29:23.350
<v S3>the answer to. Well, don't be afraid of that. If

0:29:23.350 --> 0:29:25.350
<v S3>they ask the question or the answer to just say,

0:29:25.350 --> 0:29:27.350
<v S3>I don't know that. I'll look it up. Let's talk

0:29:27.350 --> 0:29:28.190
<v S3>about it next week.

0:29:28.510 --> 0:29:29.190
<v S1>Get your Bible.

0:29:29.470 --> 0:29:30.990
<v S3>Get your moody Bible commentary out. Yeah.

0:29:31.030 --> 0:29:32.190
<v S1>Or call open line.

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<v S2>Come on. Yeah.

0:29:33.310 --> 0:29:33.590
<v S3>Don't be.

0:29:33.590 --> 0:29:34.910
<v S2>Afraid. Lots of resources.

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<v S1>Uh, you got good resources. I have found that some

0:29:38.310 --> 0:29:40.590
<v S1>people are afraid to say yes, I'll read the Bible

0:29:40.590 --> 0:29:42.590
<v S1>because they don't know anything about the Bible. And I

0:29:42.590 --> 0:29:47.390
<v S1>always say, well, I'll give you an orientation, and it's

0:29:47.390 --> 0:29:50.510
<v S1>not that hard to understand. And believe it or not,

0:29:50.510 --> 0:29:53.670
<v S1>people say, oh, you'll orient, I get orientation. Oh yeah,

0:29:53.710 --> 0:29:57.030
<v S1>that's no problem. And we used to there was a

0:29:57.030 --> 0:29:58.910
<v S1>woman that used to always invite her friends to read

0:29:58.910 --> 0:30:01.550
<v S1>the Bible and say, and I was this was when

0:30:01.550 --> 0:30:05.510
<v S1>I was leading a congregation, and I'm going to get my, my, uh,

0:30:05.790 --> 0:30:07.950
<v S1>she would call me her rabbi, but my rabbi to

0:30:07.950 --> 0:30:09.950
<v S1>come in and he can read it with us. I

0:30:09.950 --> 0:30:12.870
<v S1>wasn't a rabbi, but that's what she would say. And

0:30:12.990 --> 0:30:15.390
<v S1>so we'd get together and I'd say, okay, today our

0:30:15.390 --> 0:30:17.750
<v S1>lesson is on the table of contents.

0:30:18.350 --> 0:30:19.790
<v S3>Yeah. Start really.

0:30:19.790 --> 0:30:22.470
<v S1>Basic. And I start the Bible isn't a book, it's

0:30:22.470 --> 0:30:26.790
<v S1>a library of books. Look, it's divided in two big sections.

0:30:27.190 --> 0:30:31.470
<v S1>And I explained, just people are going, oh, this is wow.

0:30:31.510 --> 0:30:34.230
<v S1>I never knew that. Hey, it's okay to start at

0:30:34.230 --> 0:30:35.989
<v S1>the most basic thing. Invite people to read with you,

0:30:36.030 --> 0:30:39.110
<v S1>give them the orientation and start reading. It's great.

0:30:39.150 --> 0:30:42.910
<v S2>Yeah. And depending on how much your friend knows, and

0:30:42.910 --> 0:30:45.270
<v S2>if you're willing to ask your friend to read the

0:30:45.270 --> 0:30:49.230
<v S2>Bible with you, there are children's resources could help with this.

0:30:49.270 --> 0:30:52.590
<v S2>I mean, like like the two parts of the Bible. Um,

0:30:52.630 --> 0:30:54.870
<v S2>or there are some, you know, kids videos that kind

0:30:54.910 --> 0:30:56.670
<v S2>of go through here are the parts of the Bible

0:30:56.670 --> 0:30:59.670
<v S2>and they've got there are lots of fun songs that

0:30:59.670 --> 0:31:01.750
<v S2>go through here, the books of the Bible or the

0:31:01.750 --> 0:31:04.670
<v S2>different parts of the Bible that those might be, depending

0:31:04.670 --> 0:31:07.150
<v S2>on where your friend is at, those might be helpful

0:31:07.190 --> 0:31:08.230
<v S2>for you as well.

0:31:08.470 --> 0:31:13.590
<v S1>A few weeks ago, we, uh, linked the Bible project

0:31:13.590 --> 0:31:17.310
<v S1>on the Psalms on our Facebook page. So Bible Project's

0:31:17.350 --> 0:31:20.590
<v S1>got some great resources. Videos eight nine minutes that really

0:31:20.590 --> 0:31:23.190
<v S1>help you understand different parts of the Bible. So yeah,

0:31:23.430 --> 0:31:26.990
<v S1>there's there's great stuff out there. So just be bold.

0:31:27.030 --> 0:31:29.910
<v S1>Ask her to read the Bible with you. Um, if

0:31:29.910 --> 0:31:31.350
<v S1>you don't want to listen to me, just listen to

0:31:31.390 --> 0:31:32.710
<v S1>Eva and Trisha. They think it's.

0:31:32.710 --> 0:31:34.110
<v S3>A good idea. We think it's a good idea.

0:31:34.150 --> 0:31:34.510
<v S1>Yeah.

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<v S2>Uh, Mark wrote us from Florida, listens to RMB, says Shalom.

0:31:38.870 --> 0:31:41.630
<v S2>My Jewish doctor does not believe that Jesus is the Messiah.

0:31:41.630 --> 0:31:44.230
<v S2>Because in the Talmud it says Jesus is an illegitimate

0:31:44.230 --> 0:31:46.990
<v S2>son and that he used sorcery to walk on water.

0:31:47.230 --> 0:31:49.270
<v S2>How do I refute that? In love?

0:31:49.270 --> 0:31:50.910
<v S3>Of course I like how he says that.

0:31:50.950 --> 0:31:53.710
<v S1>In love, of course. Well, first of all, I don't

0:31:53.710 --> 0:31:57.830
<v S1>think any Jewish person says I don't believe in Jesus

0:31:57.830 --> 0:32:00.510
<v S1>because of what the Talmud says about him. They don't

0:32:00.510 --> 0:32:06.830
<v S1>believe in Jesus because of the cultural predisposition not to

0:32:06.870 --> 0:32:12.229
<v S1>believe in Jesus. Even what the Talmud says about Jesus, um,

0:32:13.910 --> 0:32:19.480
<v S1>is that he was illegitimate Legitimate and that he did

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:23.320
<v S1>do miracles, but he did them by sorcery. The Talmud

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:25.880
<v S1>does say that, but you got to understand. The Talmud

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:31.640
<v S1>was written. Codified between the fifth, about between 500 and 600.

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.320
<v S1>It was already way past the time when the church

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:39.600
<v S1>had become so malevolent, so hostile, so hateful of the

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:44.400
<v S1>Jewish people. And sort of in response to that, that

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:48.880
<v S1>the rabbis incorporated some answers Jewish people had for then.

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:51.520
<v S1>But we don't believe this because of what it said

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:54.840
<v S1>about this Jesus. So it does have says negative things

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:58.040
<v S1>about Jesus, but it's in response to the terrible persecution

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:01.920
<v S1>that Jewish people were already feeling from the hands of,

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:05.680
<v S1>and the lips of people like Augustine, the Great Church

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:10.200
<v S1>father of the West, and John Chrysostom, the great Church,

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:13.240
<v S1>father of the East. So it's reactionary.

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<v S3>Self-defensive.

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<v S1>Yeah. Self-Defense. But all this I have, you know, people

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:21.600
<v S1>have said this to me and I've said, well, it

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:25.120
<v S1>is kind of interesting that he they recognize that there

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:31.200
<v S1>are seeming miracles. Uh, maybe what we ought to do

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.160
<v S1>is examine to see if they got it right. And

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<v S1>in fact, one of the things that the Hebrew Bible

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:40.000
<v S1>says of the Messiah in Isaiah 35 is that he's

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<v S1>going to open the eyes of the blind and heal

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:47.200
<v S1>the lame and open the ears of the deaf. Maybe

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:51.480
<v S1>this is what Jesus was doing as fulfillment of messianic prophecy.

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:55.760
<v S1>And I just say, let's let's look at it. If

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.280
<v S1>you want, we can take a look at these other ideas.

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:03.480
<v S1>Maybe this is a misrepresentation of Jesus. Uh, it does

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:05.200
<v S1>recognize he did miracles.

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:08.840
<v S3>And sort of going back to the previous question we

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:10.760
<v S3>were talking about about reading the Bible, you can encourage

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:12.680
<v S3>your Jewish friend. Have you ever looked at really looked

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:16.200
<v S3>at the New Testament to see what the gospels, what

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.719
<v S3>Jesus is really like. What does it really say about him?

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.239
<v S3>Maybe we could take a look at some original documents

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:22.040
<v S3>about that.

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:27.880
<v S1>Yeah, there's. I don't get mad. Just like this person says, uh,

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.359
<v S1>in love, of course. But, hey, let's just look and

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:31.760
<v S1>see what the other evidence is.

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:34.480
<v S2>And I think for both of these, just noting the

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:38.120
<v S2>relational aspect of these, both for Sally and her friend

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.359
<v S2>and Mark and this and his doctor, that having that

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:45.200
<v S2>relationship where they can actually have a conversation about spiritual

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:49.719
<v S2>things can open doors that, um, that you wouldn't have

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.080
<v S2>expected with just a, you know, with someone else that

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:53.439
<v S2>you don't have that relationship.

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:54.560
<v S3>With some guy on the bus.

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:55.040
<v S2>Yeah.

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:55.800
<v S3>Yeah.

0:34:56.200 --> 0:35:00.799
<v S1>I had a Jewish doctor once that saw me on

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:04.040
<v S1>TV teaching the Bible. He was so taken by that

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:05.239
<v S1>that he said he was going to take a look

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.320
<v S1>at what I taught. He was just amazed.

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.120
<v S3>It was like flipping channels, flipping channels.

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:12.759
<v S1>And there I was, Michael. And he started shouting to

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:16.089
<v S1>his wife, Hey! Come here. It's my patient. It's my patient.

0:35:17.010 --> 0:35:20.210
<v S2>That's fun. Yep. So hopefully that's helpful for you, Mark.

0:35:20.210 --> 0:35:23.450
<v S2>And also Sally. Um, get some ideas there on how

0:35:23.450 --> 0:35:26.730
<v S2>you can talk to these people in your life. Deborah

0:35:26.730 --> 0:35:28.730
<v S2>in Ohio listens on the mobile app and says, how

0:35:28.730 --> 0:35:31.489
<v S2>can we respond to those who say Christ's teaching counts,

0:35:31.489 --> 0:35:32.810
<v S2>but Paul's does not.

0:35:33.489 --> 0:35:35.649
<v S3>Sounds like you should only read the red letter parts

0:35:35.650 --> 0:35:36.569
<v S3>of your Bible, right?

0:35:36.610 --> 0:35:37.330
<v S1>Yeah. That's what.

0:35:37.410 --> 0:35:40.650
<v S3>That's what. It's a very skinny edition.

0:35:41.330 --> 0:35:42.930
<v S1>Uh, Paul's teaching.

0:35:42.969 --> 0:35:44.410
<v S2>Is the Gospels, I guess.

0:35:44.450 --> 0:35:45.770
<v S3>And only the red letter parts.

0:35:45.810 --> 0:35:48.010
<v S2>Right? Just just the things that Christ said.

0:35:48.050 --> 0:35:51.730
<v S1>Yeah. Uh, Paul says all Scripture is inspired, and so

0:35:51.730 --> 0:35:56.090
<v S1>that would include his own writings. Peter says, uh, of

0:35:56.090 --> 0:36:01.090
<v S1>Paul that his words are hard to understand, as are

0:36:01.130 --> 0:36:04.490
<v S1>the and that people distort them as they do the

0:36:04.489 --> 0:36:10.970
<v S1>other scriptures. And so Peter is recognizing Paul as Scripture.

0:36:11.170 --> 0:36:14.050
<v S1>I believe that's in Second Peter where he says that.

0:36:14.890 --> 0:36:20.290
<v S1>And so yeah, it's in second Peter chapter three. Uh,

0:36:20.489 --> 0:36:25.490
<v S1>he says they distort the untaught and unstable twist them

0:36:25.690 --> 0:36:29.330
<v S1>at his writings as to their own destruction, as they

0:36:29.330 --> 0:36:33.690
<v S1>also do the rest of the scriptures. Second Peter 316. Uh,

0:36:34.010 --> 0:36:36.770
<v S1>I think that this now, this is the one that

0:36:36.770 --> 0:36:40.330
<v S1>people often ask me about is Paul is talking about

0:36:40.370 --> 0:36:44.650
<v S1>issues about divorce and remarriage in First Corinthians chapter seven.

0:36:45.130 --> 0:36:51.530
<v S1>And he says, I say, not the Lord. And they say,

0:36:51.530 --> 0:36:54.770
<v S1>even Paul is recognizing that his words are not from

0:36:54.770 --> 0:36:59.370
<v S1>the Lord. That is such a mistake. What he means

0:36:59.370 --> 0:37:02.850
<v S1>in first Corinthians seven when he says, I say, not

0:37:02.850 --> 0:37:06.489
<v S1>the Lord is. He's referring to the words that we

0:37:06.489 --> 0:37:10.290
<v S1>have recorded of the Lord Jesus. The Lord. Jesus said,

0:37:10.489 --> 0:37:16.649
<v S1>stay married, a one clause, one exception to divorce and

0:37:16.650 --> 0:37:23.410
<v S1>remarriage that you can divorce, unfortunately, is immorality. And now

0:37:23.410 --> 0:37:26.130
<v S1>Paul is dealing with another issue that's been raised to

0:37:26.170 --> 0:37:31.890
<v S1>him is abandonment by a person who doesn't know the Lord. Uh,

0:37:32.610 --> 0:37:35.770
<v S1>he says, let him leave and or let her leave.

0:37:36.090 --> 0:37:40.450
<v S1>You're not under obligation. He's saying, I say not the Lord. Meaning,

0:37:40.450 --> 0:37:43.489
<v S1>I don't have a word from the Lord Jesus about this,

0:37:43.489 --> 0:37:47.330
<v S1>but I'm giving you now as an as an apostle,

0:37:47.370 --> 0:37:51.810
<v S1>an authoritative apostle, and an an inspired answer. I am

0:37:51.810 --> 0:37:53.850
<v S1>writing to you what you should do. He is not

0:37:53.890 --> 0:37:58.050
<v S1>denying the inspiration of his own words when he says,

0:37:58.050 --> 0:37:59.930
<v S1>I say, not the Lord. He's saying, I don't have

0:37:59.930 --> 0:38:02.370
<v S1>a written word from the Lord Jesus about this. But

0:38:02.370 --> 0:38:05.650
<v S1>now I'm telling you as an apostle what the authoritative

0:38:05.650 --> 0:38:09.569
<v S1>answer is. And so that's a misunderstanding of Paul. No,

0:38:09.660 --> 0:38:12.899
<v S1>We should read the whole thing. In fact, I am

0:38:12.900 --> 0:38:17.020
<v S1>so committed to this, you guys, that my Bible that

0:38:17.020 --> 0:38:20.259
<v S1>I read, I made special effort. I found one without

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<v S1>red letters because the whole book is inspired, not just

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<v S1>the words of Jesus. Okay, we're going to we're going

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<v S1>to come back in just a bit. We're you're listening

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<v S1>to Open Line with Eva Redlich, Tricia McMillan and me,

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<v S1>Michael Wright. And we're having a great time going through

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<v S1>the mailbag, getting through as many questions as we can.

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<v S1>Hope you're having a wonderful Independence Day weekend. Uh, having

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<v S1>some fun, watching some fireworks, eating some grilled out food.

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<v S1>Enjoy yourself. We're going to be back with more questions

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<v S1>And with me is Eva right? Tricia McMillan. I'm Michael

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<v S1>Ray Melnick. We're answering the mailbag questions you've sent in

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<v S1>for this special holiday weekend edition of Open Line. Let's

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<v S1>go back to the the questions, Tricia.

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<v S2>All right. Dory wrote us from Georgia Listens on WNBA.

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<v S2>I was married before, and I committed adultery when my

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<v S2>husband found out he did the same. But I am

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<v S2>the offending spouse now. I'm remarried.

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<v S1>I'm guessing she divorced.

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<v S2>I'm assuming that because she's now remarried.

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<v S1>Mhm.

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<v S2>Um. And I'm afraid I'm living in adultery. I have repented,

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<v S2>but I want to make sure that according to the Bible,

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<v S2>I am not living in sin. What do I do now?

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<v S1>I don't want to make this an issue of sin,

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<v S1>that grace may abound. But let's remember the grace of

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<v S1>God is greater than all our sin. And she has

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<v S1>turned to the Lord. Now she is recommitted to the Lord.

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<v S1>Come to know the Lord. It's not clear, but she

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<v S1>has indeed repented of that sin, and God has forgiven her. Uh,

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<v S1>but does it mean that she should divorce and go

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<v S1>back to her previous spouse? Uh, we faced that in

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<v S1>pastoral ministry. What was the quick answer? Eva?

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<v S3>No, you have to be. You have to serve God

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<v S3>where you are. You can't go back. You can't. We

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<v S3>don't even know where her first husband is. Maybe he's

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<v S3>already remarried. I mean, it just gets to be such

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<v S3>a tangled mess. Just live where you are. For the

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<v S3>Lord Jesus, King. Messiah. Moving forward.

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<v S1>We can't undo the sin by committing another sin.

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<v S3>Right?

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<v S1>So faithfulness in your marriage, that's what you need.

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<v S2>In her current marriage.

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<v S3>In her current marriage.

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<v S2>Okay. All right. Marty wrote us from Elgin, Illinois. Listens

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<v S2>to WNBA. Can you tell me what the gift of

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<v S2>prophecy is in the Bible? And if it's being rightly

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<v S2>used in the church today because of past experiences in

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<v S2>my church growing up, I tend to shy away from it.

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<v S2>Is there anyone using the gift correctly today?

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<v S1>Well, I'm going to just say plainly that the gift

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<v S1>of prophecy was part of the, in my opinion, the

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<v S1>foundational gifts of the church. Uh, and they have ceased

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<v S1>the gifts of there's no longer any apostles. No one

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<v S1>is testifying of the resurrected Lord. And the prophets of

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<v S1>the New Testament were linked with the apostles in Ephesians 220.

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<v S1>The foundation of the church was laid by the apostles

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<v S1>and the prophets. That was a foundational gift.

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<v S3>So by testifying, you mean somebody who actually saw it

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<v S3>and reporting it?

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<v S1>Yeah. A living witness to the resurrection. Paul even says,

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<v S1>am I not an apostle? Have I not seen the Lord?

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<v S1>And and so there are no apostles. I think even

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<v S1>our friends who believe in prophecy would mostly recognize there

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<v S1>are no apostles, but the prophets are linked to them.

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<v S1>And so I would say, uh, therefore, if anyone is

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<v S1>exercising prophecy in any way whatsoever, they're not doing it

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<v S1>biblically because it doesn't exist. So sometimes people redefine it,

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<v S1>sometimes they redefine it as preaching, sometimes they redefine it

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<v S1>as exhortation. But listen, if someone just exhorts you with

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<v S1>what would be the Word of God, accept it. Be

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<v S1>happy about it. But sometimes people come and they want

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<v S1>to get into our lives and tell us, I have

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<v S1>a word from God for you. And you know it's too,

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<v S1>too much.

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<v S2>That is beyond scripture.

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<v S1>Yeah. Just. No, no, no. I would just say thank

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<v S1>you very much, but no, that's what I would say.

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<v S1>And and move on. I had a friend once say, oh,

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<v S1>you need prophecy because the Bible is a dusty old book.

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<v S1>It's like getting a text message from God. You wouldn't

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<v S1>understand it because you're too old to text message. But.

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<v S1>But prophecy is like getting a phone call from God.

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<v S1>I love the Word of God. And what did you

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<v S1>always say?

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<v S3>I'll honor. Yeah. That says I will honor my word

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<v S3>above my name. So what God says about himself.

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<v S1>Let's not denigrate God's Word as the containment of God's revelation.

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<v S1>That's what we.

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<v S3>Need. And he's written down all that we need to know.

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<v S2>All right. Thank you. And I think our last question

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<v S2>will be from Diana in Indiana. Listens to what are

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<v S2>the Jewish people still looking for their Messiah through the

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<v S2>genealogical line of King David? And have they kept track

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<v S2>of that pure line all these years?

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<v S1>Okay. Some Jewish people are still looking for the Messiah,

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<v S1>and some are still looking for him to come through

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<v S1>the line of David. Uh, but most Jewish people who

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<v S1>are looking for the Messiah recognize that we have not

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<v S1>kept track of that genealogy. Although a few years ago,

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<v S1>when a Rabbi Menachem Schneerson was proclaimed by his followers

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<v S1>to be the Messiah, uh, they said he was from

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<v S1>the line of David. And everyone looked around the rest

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<v S1>of the Jewish community and said, well, how do you

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<v S1>know that? We don't know who's from the line of David?

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<v S1>They said, well, the rabbi told us that he was

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<v S1>from the line of David. Well come on. He was

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<v S1>making it up. He doesn't know that. Uh, and so, yes,

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<v S1>Jewish people are still looking for the some and some

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<v S1>are even looking that when it comes, it will be

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<v S1>revealed from God that he is from the line of David.

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<v S1>But here's the thing. We know for a fact that

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<v S1>the Messiah has come and he is from the line

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<v S1>of David. It's clear both genealogies and Luke. Mary's genealogy

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<v S1>shows that he's from the line of David, and Matthew's

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<v S1>shows that he's by his adopted father Joseph from the

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<v S1>line of David. So he is from the line of David.

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<v S1>He is declared the son of David, most importantly with

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<v S1>power through the resurrection. Jesus is alive. And so I

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<v S1>would just tell anyone, Jewish or Gentile alike. You don't

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<v S1>have to be looking for a future Messiah. What you

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<v S1>have to do is look at the evidence that Jesus

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<v S1>really is alive. He is declared with power to be

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<v S1>the Messiah by the resurrection from the dead. So yeah,

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<v S1>the Son of David has come and he's our Messiah.

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<v S1>And that's where I would put people. Seek him out.

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<v S1>Read the Gospels. See how Jesus fulfills what you want

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<v S1>to say.

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<v S3>Yeah. Just thinking about that verse in Second Timothy. Remember Messiah, Jesus,

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<v S3>the descendant of David, risen from the dead.

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<v S1>Yeah. That's it. That's that's the key idea. So if

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<v S1>you're listening today and you've been thinking, I don't even

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<v S1>know what I think about this, you can find out

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<v S1>all about what you need to know the most about

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<v S1>the Son of David by reading the Bible, read the scriptures,

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<v S1>read the Gospels and learn about Jesus, and learn that

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<v S1>he died for us and then was raised again, declaring

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<v S1>him to be the Son of David with power and

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<v S1>put your trust in him. What a great time together,

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<v S1>you guys. Thank you, Eva, for uh, joining me today

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<v S1>and Tricia and also Courtney Young for helping me out today,

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<v S1>helping us out by doing a great job engineering. Thanks

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<v S1>for listening, everyone. We are going to be back next week.

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