WEBVTT - The Power Habits – Part 1

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<v S1>Today we're learning three power habits that will change your life.

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<v S1>Stay tuned for some bold steps.

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<v S2>They will affect your marriage. Affect your health. Affect your

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<v S2>finances because they have with them a promise of God's

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<v S2>favor or God's reward.

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<v S1>Welcome to Bold Steps with Mark Jobe, president of Moody

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<v S1>Bible Institute and senior pastor of New Life Community Church

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<v S1>in Chicago. And right now, we're in a series about

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<v S1>what it means to be fully devoted to God, which

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<v S1>Jesus talks about in Matthew chapter six. Mark, as we

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<v S1>get ready for today's message about power habits, I know

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<v S1>there are many habits we already know that promise positive results.

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<v S1>Healthy eating, of course, and working out and just staying

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<v S1>off our phones before we go to bed. That's a

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<v S1>tough one, isn't it? We intuitively know that these guaranteed

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<v S1>good results, but the habit you're talking about today are

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<v S1>backed by more than just statistics, aren't they?

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<v S3>Yeah. And, you know, habits are what we do on

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<v S3>a regular basis that become embedded or ingrained in our life. And,

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<v S3>you know, they're hard to create and they're hard to

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<v S3>break good or bad habits. And there are some spiritual disciplines,

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<v S3>some habits that are spoken of in Matthew chapter six.

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<v S3>And Jesus talks about when you give, when you pray

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<v S3>and when you fast. Uh, these are three spiritual disciplines

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<v S3>that I believe should be part of our life in

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<v S3>one way or the other. So we're going to talk

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<v S3>about that today.

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<v S1>Okay. Well, let's get into the message. Here's Mark Jobe

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<v S1>with bold steps.

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<v S2>How many of you know that habits are hard to

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<v S2>build and hard to break? How about it? Anybody here

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<v S2>ever had a hard habit to break? Yeah, there's all

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<v S2>kinds of habits. You know, some people bite their nails

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<v S2>and they just. They don't want to do it. They

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<v S2>can't get away from it. from it. I heard that

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<v S2>people put like, hot pepper spray on it just so

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<v S2>that when they put it in their mouth, they don't

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<v S2>want to bite their nails. Um, other people have cuss

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<v S2>words that they just just grew up saying, and they

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<v S2>just it just pops out at the most inconvenient times.

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<v S2>And you just say, I don't want to say it.

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<v S2>I don't want to say it, but you say it.

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<v S2>You're like, I'm going to break that habit. Uh, some

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<v S2>of you have habits about health that you're trying to break,

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<v S2>some bad habits. Habits are hard to break, and they're

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<v S2>hard to create. If these three habits that I was

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<v S2>taught that I'm about to talk to you about were

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<v S2>easy to create, then we would all be doing them.

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<v S2>But they are difficult to create. And I'm challenging you

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<v S2>at the beginning that you would pay special attention to

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<v S2>these three habits because they happen to be the three

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<v S2>habits that Jesus talks about in the same chapter. Matthew

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<v S2>chapter six. I call it the Power Trio. I don't

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<v S2>know if we have in the house any triathlon. Uh, competitors.

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<v S2>Anybody here done a triathlon? Triathlon before? Yeah. Okay. We

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<v S2>have at least one. Anybody else? Yeah. Okay. One over here.

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<v S2>A couple people that have thought about it. How many

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<v S2>of you have thought about it? Yeah, we got a

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<v S2>lot of thought about it in here, but only a

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<v S2>couple of people that have done it. So here's the

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<v S2>thing about a triathlon. I've never done one, but I've

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<v S2>had friends that have done triathlons. And so there's three

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<v S2>primary disciplines in a triathlon. You have to learn to

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<v S2>swim well. You have to learn to cycle and then run.

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<v S2>And so if you're going to win a triathlon or

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<v S2>compete well in a triathlon, you have to prepare yourself

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<v S2>in swimming, prepare yourself in cycling and prepare yourself in running.

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<v S2>Three disciplines lead to one victory. Only if you master

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<v S2>all three, you may be a great runner, but a

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<v S2>lousy swimmer. And you'll never win a triathlon. You may

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<v S2>be a great swimmer, but a lousy runner. And you'll

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<v S2>never win a triathlon. But if you're able to master

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<v S2>all three, then it leads to one significant victory. Jesus

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<v S2>is telling us in this passage about three disciplines that,

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<v S2>when combined together, can create an extraordinary, powerful impact not

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<v S2>only in our spiritual life, but on every realm of

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<v S2>our life. If you go to Matthew chapter six, which

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<v S2>is primarily known for the chapter in which the Lord

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<v S2>gives us the Lord's Prayer, or what we refer to

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<v S2>as the Our Father, you'll see three disciplines that he

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<v S2>refers to in verse two. He says, when you give

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<v S2>in verse five, he says, and when you pray and

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<v S2>verse 16 he says, and when you fast, he gives

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<v S2>a paragraph to giving, a paragraph to praying and a

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<v S2>paragraph to fasting. Yet now you may think that these

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<v S2>are merely spiritual disciplines, but the way that Jesus presents

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<v S2>it is that these are disciplines that actually overflow into

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<v S2>every area of your life. They will affect your marriage,

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<v S2>affect your health, affect your finances, affect your mental state,

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<v S2>affect your well-being because they have with them a promise

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<v S2>of God's favor or God's reward. Number one, if you're

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<v S2>taking notes, I want you to write this down. The

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<v S2>first thing I want you to see about this is

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<v S2>that God expects these disciplines in our life. He expects it.

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<v S2>He doesn't say, if you give, if you pray, if

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<v S2>you fast. He says. When you give, when you pray,

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<v S2>when you fast. In other words, the implication is that

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<v S2>if you are a follower of Jesus, these are sort

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<v S2>of natural expectations that you will engage in. These aren't

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<v S2>for the super powerful, extraordinary people. This is not for

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<v S2>a one time event in your life. These are regular

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<v S2>habits that disciples of Jesus engage in. And he, in

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<v S2>this passage, he he tells us about these habits. And

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<v S2>I was thinking about these habits and I thought to myself,

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<v S2>they're hard because they hit at areas that we tend

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<v S2>to cling to, areas that we don't want to give up.

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<v S2>Giving touches our money. Praying touches our time, and fasting

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<v S2>touches our food. Some of you like pastor, I can give.

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<v S2>I can pray, but the fasting, I mean. Come on.

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<v S2>Some of you are hyper possessive about your food. Admit it.

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<v S2>Last time you went to Rick Benny's, your husband reached

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<v S2>over and said, I don't want fries. And then he

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<v S2>reaches over and tries to pull a fry out of

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<v S2>your fry bag and you say, hold on, that's my fry.

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<v S2>If you wanted fries, why didn't you order your own fries?

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<v S2>Don't touch my fries. How many of you know what

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<v S2>I'm talking about here? How many of you have people

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<v S2>around you that always want to mess with your food?

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<v S2>And you're like, hey, get your own fries. Your wife says, no, no, no,

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<v S2>I'm watching my diet. I'm not going to. And then

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<v S2>she always wants a piece of yours and another piece

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<v S2>and oh, that's good. And you're like, hold on. Jesus

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<v S2>talks about giving, praying and fasting that affect our money,

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<v S2>our time, and our food. Each of those things are

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<v S2>hard to let go of. There are areas that we

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<v S2>tend to want to cling to. There are areas that

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<v S2>are difficult to release, but yet they have a powerful

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<v S2>repercussion in our lives when we learn how to manage

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<v S2>them well. If it were easy to give away, we

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<v S2>would be giving it away. And for example, he talks

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<v S2>about giving. You know, the Bible is talks a lot

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<v S2>about the topic of giving. And I believe I happen

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<v S2>to believe that we as believers should be some of

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<v S2>the most generous people in the world. I believe that

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<v S2>if our father owns a cattle on a thousand hills,

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<v S2>and our father has all the wealth in the world

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<v S2>that we know that our God supplies, and so therefore

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<v S2>we also need to be generous and it needs to

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<v S2>flow out of us, not just at offering times on

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<v S2>Sunday morning, but in our life in general. I believe

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<v S2>generosity should characterize the believer. Can I tell you this

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<v S2>church is here because when we were 20 people and

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<v S2>had very little money and very little resources and were

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<v S2>meeting in a rundown building and, uh, no staff besides

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<v S2>me who was paid part time and a building that

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<v S2>was creaking and falling apart and no worship team. And

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<v S2>when we got together, we made a determination. We may

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<v S2>have needs, but we refuse to be needy. So we

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<v S2>will not act like we're the needy people. We will

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<v S2>start giving and releasing even though we don't have a

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<v S2>lot to release and give. When we were that small,

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<v S2>we decided we were going to give to missions and

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<v S2>support missions in Africa and other people. And I'll never

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<v S2>forget someone coming up to me and say, pastor, we

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<v S2>are the mission field. We can't be given to orphans

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<v S2>in Africa. Look at us, pastor. And I sat down

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<v S2>with a couple of people. I said, hey, hold on

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<v S2>a second. Have you ever been to Africa? No. Well,

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<v S2>then you may think that you're the needy because you've

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<v S2>never been to Africa and you've never seen how people

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<v S2>live in Africa. But I'm going to tell you something.

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<v S2>There are people that are much, much, much, much, much

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<v S2>needier than you are around the world. So, so never

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<v S2>take on a needy mentality. You may be a single

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<v S2>mother here right now, just living paycheck to paycheck, wondering

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<v S2>how you're even going to pay your mortgage. Listen, and

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<v S2>I understand that's a challenge to live in that world,

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<v S2>but I want to tell you something. Never take on

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<v S2>a needy mentality. Never view yourself as I'm the needy person.

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<v S2>I have nothing to give. I'm just living. Living from

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<v S2>paycheck to paycheck. The moment that you embrace that mentality,

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<v S2>the moment you start living in that world, is the

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<v S2>moment that you will feel like I have nothing to

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<v S2>give to others. I have no time, energy, love, generosity, food, uh,

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<v S2>sympathy to give to others. And you begin to lose

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<v S2>what you have when you begin to develop a need mentality.

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<v S2>You need to understand, hey, I may have needs, but

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<v S2>I will never, never, never live like a needy person. Amen.

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<v S2>Jesus said, give and it will be given to you.

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<v S2>Good measure. Pressed down, shaken together, running over will be

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<v S2>poured into your lap. For with the measure you use

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<v S2>it will be measured back to you. That's Luke chapter six,

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<v S2>verse 38. Prayer. Prayer is hard because prayer requires us

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<v S2>to give of our time and more than our time.

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<v S2>It requires a humility about our approach to God. Prayer

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<v S2>causes you to say to God, Our Father who art

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<v S2>in heaven, hallowed be thy name, which means holy is

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<v S2>your name. You're declaring that God is high and you

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<v S2>are low. When you pray, you are declaring that you

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<v S2>need God. When you pray, you are saying, I can't

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<v S2>do this without you, God. I need a force and

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<v S2>a power that's greater than me to intercede in my affairs,

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<v S2>because I. I need you to do what I cannot do. God.

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<v S2>Prayer causes you to humble yourself. Prayer causes you to

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<v S2>admit that you don't have all the answers. Prayer causes

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<v S2>you to bow yourself before the King of Kings and

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<v S2>acknowledge I'm in a position subservient to you and oh God,

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<v S2>I desperately need you. It hits at our pride and

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<v S2>it hits at our time. Let me tell you, if

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<v S2>you are here today and you don't know how to

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<v S2>pray and you don't pray, it's because you haven't understood

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<v S2>really how much you need God. What's keeping you away

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<v S2>from that is either your pride, your self-sufficiency, your self confidence,

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<v S2>and a lack of understanding how big God is and

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<v S2>how small you are.

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<v S1>You're listening to Bold Steps with Mark Jobe. Today's message

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<v S1>titled The Power of Habits. Mark, before we continue, I

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<v S1>want to encourage our listeners to reach out to us

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<v S1>with their testimonies and comments and Bible questions. I know

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<v S1>you love hearing from what's on their mind, and and

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<v S1>sometimes we even read them on the air. So here's

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<v S1>a question we received recently from a listener named Paula. Mark,

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<v S1>I love your program. I've been listening to you for

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<v S1>a short time. I have a question about an earlier

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<v S1>program I heard when you were talking about the Mark

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<v S1>of the beast. I didn't hear you mention anything about

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<v S1>the rapture. So my question is, do you believe in

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<v S1>the rapture or taken away of the church slash believers

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<v S1>before the tribulation?

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<v S3>Yeah. Thank you for asking that question, Paula. And, um,

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<v S3>I do appreciate your interest in the end times, and

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<v S3>there's a lot of interest growing nowadays in that, as

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<v S3>many of our listeners know, there's various Years. Timelines and

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<v S3>time frames about the end time. I do happen to

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<v S3>take a rapture position. I believe that Jesus is going

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<v S3>to come like a thief in the night. And um,

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<v S3>in first Thessalonians chapter five, in multiple other passages, it

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<v S3>talks about, uh, Jesus coming unexpectedly and the ideas that

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<v S3>he's coming to take, those who are believers already. And

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<v S3>I do believe that we will be spared from the

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<v S3>Great tribulation. The majority of the difficult time. That doesn't

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<v S3>mean that we won't be tested or go through difficult

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<v S3>times and not go through dark times, but I believe

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<v S3>that what Scripture talks about the, uh, seven years of tribulation,

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<v S3>that we will be raptured ahead of that time, that's called,

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<v S3>by the way, pre-trib rapture and Moody Bible Institute is

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<v S3>taught on this a lot. And that's kind of what

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<v S3>we hold as an institute as well. But I also

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<v S3>respect people that have other views of the end times

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<v S3>and where they think, um, there are certain things that

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<v S3>Scripture is very clear about. Other things that scripture, uh,

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<v S3>you have to nuance it. And, uh, but I hold

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<v S3>to a pre-trib rapture that the the church will be

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<v S3>raptured before the Great Tribulation.

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<v S1>Thank you, Paula, for helping us clarify that. And hey,

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<v S1>Let's get back to today's Bold Steps message. Now the

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<v S1>power habits.

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<v S2>When I sat down with a married couple that desperately

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<v S2>needs counseling, marital counseling. And I talked to the guy. Hey,

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<v S2>how come you're not going to marriage counselor? I don't

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<v S2>she needs it, I don't. Here's what I know. Pride.

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<v S2>You don't want to admit that you have problems that

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<v S2>you can't solve yourself. You don't want to admit that

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<v S2>you need counsel from someone else. You don't want to

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<v S2>admit that you need a third party to walk you

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<v S2>through things. You're too proud to admit that prayer is

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<v S2>the same way. The people that pray are people that

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<v S2>are humble. It humbles us to pray. It brings us

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<v S2>to our knees. It causes us to stand. When I pray,

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<v S2>I acknowledge I'm standing as a small, finite being before

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<v S2>the awesome, omnipotent, grandiose God of the universe who has

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<v S2>all power and all might. When I don't, who has

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<v S2>all the answers and I don't, who has all the

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<v S2>miraculous power and I don't who can open all the

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<v S2>doors and I can't. Who is everywhere all the time.

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<v S2>And I'm not. I'm bowing myself before that. God acknowledging

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<v S2>how awesome he is and how much I need him.

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<v S2>And Jesus said, when you pray. Ephesians chapter six, verse

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<v S2>18 says, and pray in the spirit on all occasions

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<v S2>with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind,

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<v S2>be alert and always keep on praying for all the

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<v S2>Lord's people. First Thessalonians 516 through 18 says, rejoice always.

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<v S2>Pray continually. You say, well, pastor, I don't know how

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<v S2>to pray. If you gave me a prayer to read,

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<v S2>I would be able to read it. No, I don't

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<v S2>want you to read a prayer. I want you to pray.

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<v S2>It's like me saying, hey, I don't know how to

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<v S2>talk to my wife. If you give me a poem

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<v S2>to read to her, I'll read her a poem every

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<v S2>day and repeat it multiple times and hope she's happy. No,

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<v S2>she's not going to be happy. I don't need to

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<v S2>learn a poem. I need to learn to talk with

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<v S2>her and communicate with her. You don't need to learn

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<v S2>the the Our Father. You need to learn how to

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<v S2>talk to your father. You need to learn how to

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<v S2>communicate to him. And some of you don't know how

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<v S2>to pray because you're not that close to God. And

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<v S2>it's almost like, hey, God, it's me. Well, you probably

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<v S2>already knew that. You need to learn how to pray

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<v S2>like a father and a son. Communicate together, because that's

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<v S2>the kind of relationship that God wants with you. Not

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<v S2>a reverse prayer, not an awkward silent prayer, but a

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<v S2>father to son. Daughter to father conversation where you stand

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<v S2>before the creator of the universe, and you converse and

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<v S2>bring an end. And it's an ongoing conversation that you

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<v S2>have with God, because that's how God wants us to

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<v S2>learn how to pray. The discipline and the habit of prayer.

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<v S2>And then the third discipline is the discipline of fasting.

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<v S2>Now I have to say, if these were easy again,

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<v S2>we would be doing them. Fasting is the forgotten habit

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<v S2>or spiritual discipline of the church. The 21st century does

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<v S2>a lousy job at being a fasting people. It's a

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<v S2>almost like an ancient practice. Like, yeah, didn't people the

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<v S2>old saints do that. Didn't Jesus do that? The disciples

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<v S2>do that, but we don't really do that. I mean,

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<v S2>some of you told me, yeah, I come from a

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<v S2>tradition I used to fast before Easter. Really? Yeah. You

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<v S2>tell me. Every Friday I would fast. Tell me about

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<v S2>your fasting. Yeah, well, I wouldn't eat meat. What would

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<v S2>you eat? Well, yeah. Where would you go to Long

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<v S2>John Silvers and eat all the fish I could eat? Hey,

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<v S2>you're not fasting. You're changing diets. That's not a fast.

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<v S2>A fast is actually giving up food, abstaining from food

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<v S2>or drink for a predetermined period of time for the

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<v S2>purpose of more intently seeking the heart and the face

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<v S2>of God. If you fill yourself up on fish or

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<v S2>fill yourself up on meat, it's not fasting. Fasting is

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<v S2>actually giving up food. Fasting is one of those disciplines

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<v S2>that puts your prayer life on turbo. That every significant

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<v S2>event in Scripture seems to be preceded by fasting and prayer.

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<v S2>Jesus fasted in prayer for 40 days before his ministry

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<v S2>went public. Moses fasted 40 days before he received the

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<v S2>Ten Commandments. Elijah fasted 40 days before he went into

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<v S2>the cave. Uh, we see over and over. Place after place,

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<v S2>event after event. People fasting for the purpose of praying

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<v S2>so that God could move in extraordinary ways. Jesus was

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<v S2>once approached about it because the disciples of John the

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<v S2>Baptizer were fasting, but the disciples of Jesus were not fasting.

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<v S2>And so some people came to Jesus and they said, hey,

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<v S2>how come your disciples don't fast? But the disciples of

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<v S2>John the Baptizer, they fast. And Jesus said, they can't

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<v S2>fast while the bridegroom is with them, because Jesus was

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<v S2>still with them. He said, but the day will come

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<v S2>where the bridegroom, I will be taken away, and then

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<v S2>they will fast. We live in that day and age

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<v S2>between the leaving of Christ and the coming of Christ.

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<v S2>And so we live in a time and an age

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<v S2>where we are called upon to fast and pray. Break.

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<v S1>You're listening to Bold Steps with Mark Jobe. The first

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<v S1>half of a lesson titled The Power Habits. We'll pick

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<v S1>up with part two when we return for tomorrow's program,

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<v S1>but until then, we encourage you to visit our website

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<v S1>have available, like this month's unique edition of our Bold

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<v S1>Step gift. Mark, we are pleased to have doctor Heather

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<v S1>Holloman with us briefly on the program here today to

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<v S1>talk about her book, The Six Conversations. This is a

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<v S1>very timely book, isn't it?

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<v S3>I think it's very timely. You know, it seems like

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<v S3>a lot of the conversations that should be happening are

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<v S3>more shouting at each other or angry conversations or stereotyping people.

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<v S3>And so it seems more and more difficult to have

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<v S3>conversations with people that maybe have other ideologies.

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<v S1>So, Heather, help us out here. How can how can

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<v S1>you advise us?

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<v S4>Well, I learned from the research what it means to

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<v S4>believe the best about people. And it's profoundly biblical right

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<v S4>out of Romans 12 and Philippians two. What would life

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<v S4>look like if you began to honor one another, to

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<v S4>value others above yourself, and to bless those who persecute

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<v S4>you and love your enemies? It's a countercultural way to live,

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<v S4>and when you believe the best about people, you're seeking

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<v S4>to learn from them. So my neighbors that believe different

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<v S4>things politically or socially, instead of arguing with them, I say,

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<v S4>I can tell you really care so passionately about this issue.

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<v S4>I'd love to hear the story of when you first

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<v S4>started believing these things. Now we're having a warm connection,

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<v S4>and I can share things that I'm learning from the

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<v S4>Bible or anything important about my life.

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<v S1>So your goal here is to help us get deeply

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<v S1>into other people's lives and share things with them spiritually.

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<v S4>Yes. And you can have those warm connections that really

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<v S4>were designed for the research is clear. People are suffering

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<v S4>because of loneliness and disconnection. So this book is really

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<v S4>an intervention in a health crisis that we're also seeing

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<v S4>across the nation.

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<v S3>I love it. One of the greatest challenges that we

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<v S3>live is isolation, lack of connection. And so whether this

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<v S3>is at church with other believers or whether this is

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<v S3>with a neighbor that maybe does not share your faith

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<v S3>or politically is at odds with you. This is a

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<v S3>great book. The Six Conversations by Doctor Heather Holloman. Look

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<v S3>forward to getting this book into so many people's hands.

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<v S1>Heather, thanks for your partnership.

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<v S4>Thank you.

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