1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,480 S1: Hi friends, thanks so much for downloading this podcast and 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,480 S1: I hope truly that you will hear something that will encourage, edify, 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,160 S1: equip and enlighten you to get out there and influence 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,880 S1: and occupy until he comes. And on that note, may 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,760 S1: I take just a few moments here to describe this 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,800 S1: month's truth tool? It's by pastor Jack Hibbs. He's written 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,599 S1: the book called Called to Take a Bold Stand. I 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,480 S1: absolutely love this book because it reminds us that in Christ, 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,480 S1: all things pass away, all things become new, that we 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,200 S1: are standing for his truth, that we have a new nature. 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,080 S1: Because of him, we should be living boldly. But far 12 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,120 S1: too often we retreat out of fear from cultural blowback. 13 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,600 S1: So I want to encourage all of us to just 14 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,800 S1: stand up for Christ, to be unashamed of who we 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,080 S1: are in him, and to go into a culture that's 16 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,600 S1: telling us in no uncertain terms they're lost and they're hurting. 17 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,720 S1: So if you'd like a copy of Pastor Hibbs new 18 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,400 S1: book called Call to Take a Bold Stand, just give 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,519 S1: a gift of any amount by calling 877 Janet 58. 20 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,000 S1: We are listener supported radio and this is my way 21 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,160 S1: of saying thank you. So that number again is 877 22 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,600 S1: Janet 58. Or you can go online in the market 23 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,970 S1: with Janet Parshall. Go to the bottom of the page. 24 00:01:02,970 --> 00:01:05,649 S1: There's the cover of Pastor Jack's book. Click it on, 25 00:01:05,650 --> 00:01:07,369 S1: give a gift and you'll be good to go. And 26 00:01:07,370 --> 00:01:08,810 S1: we'll send you a copy as a way of saying 27 00:01:08,810 --> 00:01:11,649 S1: thank you. Don't forget, you can also become a partial partner. 28 00:01:11,690 --> 00:01:13,850 S1: Those are people who give every single month at a 29 00:01:13,850 --> 00:01:16,130 S1: level of their own choosing. My way of saying thank 30 00:01:16,130 --> 00:01:17,850 S1: you to the partial partners is to make sure you 31 00:01:17,850 --> 00:01:20,369 S1: get a copy of each month's truth tool, and you 32 00:01:20,370 --> 00:01:22,930 S1: get our weekly newsletter, which includes some of my writing 33 00:01:22,930 --> 00:01:25,850 S1: and an audio piece only for my partial partners. So 34 00:01:25,850 --> 00:01:27,530 S1: whether it's a one time gift or you want to 35 00:01:27,530 --> 00:01:29,930 S1: be an ongoing giver and become a partial partner, that's 36 00:01:29,930 --> 00:01:31,890 S1: your call. But I want to thank you in advance. 37 00:01:31,890 --> 00:01:35,570 S1: 877 Janet 58 or online at In the Market with 38 00:01:35,569 --> 00:01:39,130 S1: Janet Parshall. Now please enjoy the broadcast. 39 00:01:41,050 --> 00:01:42,610 S2: Here are some of the news headlines we're watching. 40 00:01:42,890 --> 00:01:45,130 S3: The conference was over. The president won a pledge. 41 00:01:45,330 --> 00:01:47,369 S4: Americans worshiping government over God. 42 00:01:47,690 --> 00:01:51,050 S3: Extremely rare safety move by a major 17 years. 43 00:01:51,050 --> 00:01:53,650 S5: The Palestinians and Israelis negotiated to. 44 00:02:08,180 --> 00:02:10,780 S1: Hi friends. Welcome to In the Market with Janet partial 45 00:02:10,780 --> 00:02:13,139 S1: a very happy Tuesday. So glad you're going to join us. 46 00:02:13,139 --> 00:02:15,620 S1: We've got great conversation planned for you this hour, but 47 00:02:15,620 --> 00:02:16,980 S1: I want to say a little bit more about this 48 00:02:16,980 --> 00:02:19,380 S1: month's truth tool, because we're relatively new. By the way, 49 00:02:19,419 --> 00:02:22,460 S1: do you realize we change our clocks this weekend? Huh? Yeah, 50 00:02:22,460 --> 00:02:25,340 S1: we spring forward, which means you lose that hour of sleep, 51 00:02:25,340 --> 00:02:27,419 S1: but we get more sunshine. I don't know how it works. 52 00:02:27,419 --> 00:02:29,580 S1: Just do it so you'll show up on time for church. 53 00:02:29,580 --> 00:02:32,500 S1: But that's this weekend. In the meantime, in the brand 54 00:02:32,500 --> 00:02:34,579 S1: new month of March, we do have a brand new 55 00:02:34,580 --> 00:02:37,260 S1: truth tool written by Jack Hibbs. It's called Call to 56 00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:41,419 S1: Take a Bold Stand. Subtitled Resilient and Effective Faith for 57 00:02:41,419 --> 00:02:43,860 S1: a Godless Age. Hello. Does that come right out of 58 00:02:43,860 --> 00:02:46,220 S1: the headlines or not? I love Jack Hibbs. I love 59 00:02:46,220 --> 00:02:48,060 S1: the way he teaches, and I thought this would be 60 00:02:48,060 --> 00:02:50,300 S1: a marvelous book to teach us how to do that, 61 00:02:50,300 --> 00:02:53,139 S1: to be a bold witness for Christ in a world 62 00:02:53,139 --> 00:02:55,820 S1: that is chaotic, where right is called wrong, good is 63 00:02:55,820 --> 00:02:59,150 S1: called evil is called good. Good is called evil. And 64 00:02:59,150 --> 00:03:01,070 S1: men are doing what is right in their own eyes. 65 00:03:01,110 --> 00:03:05,109 S1: So how do we effectually get pointed out as, oh, there, there, 66 00:03:05,110 --> 00:03:07,070 S1: there must be followers of the way. If they're not 67 00:03:07,070 --> 00:03:10,110 S1: saying that about our lives, something's off. We should be 68 00:03:10,110 --> 00:03:16,230 S1: living distinctively and eloquently the gospel message. Are we doing that? Well, 69 00:03:16,230 --> 00:03:18,470 S1: this book will teach you how to do just that. 70 00:03:18,710 --> 00:03:21,750 S1: And it's a reminder to make every minute count. We 71 00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:24,910 S1: don't know when Christ is returning, but from now until 72 00:03:24,910 --> 00:03:29,470 S1: the day he takes us home. Harpazo first Thessalonians until 73 00:03:29,510 --> 00:03:32,989 S1: or else the your natural death. Either way, the clock 74 00:03:32,990 --> 00:03:35,550 S1: is ticking and you have been given the gift of life. 75 00:03:35,550 --> 00:03:37,710 S1: You woke up this morning and were the first words 76 00:03:37,710 --> 00:03:40,470 S1: on your lips. Thank you Lord, for another day. One 77 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:42,190 S1: more day to tell you how much I love you. 78 00:03:42,230 --> 00:03:44,830 S1: One more day to praise you. One more day to 79 00:03:44,870 --> 00:03:47,750 S1: serve you. You know our days are numbered, right? God 80 00:03:47,750 --> 00:03:49,990 S1: knows exactly when we'll start and when we'll end this 81 00:03:49,990 --> 00:03:53,430 S1: pilgrim's progress. But in between. Don't you want to be 82 00:03:53,430 --> 00:03:56,270 S1: counted for Christ? Only one life will soon be past. 83 00:03:56,270 --> 00:03:58,720 S1: They used to teach us in Sunday school. Only what's 84 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,080 S1: done for Christ will last. So this is a book 85 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,560 S1: to embolden you to be that muscular Christian we talk 86 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,080 S1: about all the time. We are listener supported radio. When 87 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,720 S1: you give a gift of any amount. This is my 88 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,119 S1: tangible way of saying thank you. So if you'd like 89 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,640 S1: a copy of Called to Take a Bold Stand or 90 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,480 S1: just say, Jack Gibbs book, you can call 877 Janet 58. 91 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,640 S1: That's 877 Janet 58. Or you can give online at 92 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,080 S1: in the market with Janet. Don't forget you can also 93 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,640 S1: become a partial partner. Those are people who give every 94 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,839 S1: single month at a level of their own choosing, I'd 95 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,120 S1: like to point out, but you always get my way 96 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,279 S1: of saying thank you. You always get the truth tool. Plus, 97 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,040 S1: you get a weekly newsletter that includes my writing and 98 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,080 S1: a special audio message just from my partial partner. So 99 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,240 S1: you decide. 877 Janet, 58 or online at In the 100 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,560 S1: Market with Janet Parshall. But the new Truth Truth tool 101 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,760 S1: is by Jack Gibbs, called to take a bold stand. 102 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,599 S1: All right. Guess what we're going to talk about. Yep. 103 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,200 S1: If we're talking about the war in the Middle East, 104 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,680 S1: spot on, and things are happening faster, they're far from over. 105 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,450 S1: In fact, the biggest hits, according to Secretary of State 106 00:04:58,450 --> 00:05:01,890 S1: Marco Rubio. We haven't even seen the full court press yet. 107 00:05:01,890 --> 00:05:03,890 S1: Here is CBN news with more on this story. 108 00:05:06,370 --> 00:05:10,170 S6: The conflict between Israel and Iran continues to expand, with 109 00:05:10,170 --> 00:05:14,050 S6: American forces and diplomatic sites now directly in the crosshairs. 110 00:05:14,089 --> 00:05:17,210 S6: Iran hit the US embassy in Saudi Arabia's capital of 111 00:05:17,210 --> 00:05:20,529 S6: Riyadh with a drone strike early Tuesday, causing what Saudi 112 00:05:20,529 --> 00:05:25,650 S6: Arabia's defence ministry described as a limited fire and minor damage. 113 00:05:25,850 --> 00:05:28,410 S6: It followed an attack the day before on the US 114 00:05:28,410 --> 00:05:33,570 S6: embassy in Kuwait, signaling a widening Iranian response across the region. 115 00:05:33,610 --> 00:05:36,529 S6: Iran has attacked targets in a number of other nations, 116 00:05:36,529 --> 00:05:40,810 S6: including energy facilities in Saudi Arabia and Qatar. It's also 117 00:05:40,810 --> 00:05:44,529 S6: claimed to have closed the Strait of Hormuz, where 20% 118 00:05:44,529 --> 00:05:47,650 S6: of the world's oil is shipped. The United States and 119 00:05:47,650 --> 00:05:52,850 S6: Israel are intensifying airstrikes inside Iran. President Donald Trump suggested 120 00:05:52,850 --> 00:05:56,180 S6: this may only be the beginning of a sustained campaign 121 00:05:56,180 --> 00:05:58,980 S6: that could last more than a month. In an interview 122 00:05:58,980 --> 00:06:01,900 S6: with the New York Post, Trump refused to rule out 123 00:06:01,900 --> 00:06:06,220 S6: sending American troops into Iran if they were necessary. Secretary 124 00:06:06,220 --> 00:06:09,260 S6: of State Marco Rubio said the U.S. knew Israel was 125 00:06:09,260 --> 00:06:12,140 S6: about to strike and joined in a preemptive strike to 126 00:06:12,180 --> 00:06:17,060 S6: prevent higher U.S. casualties from an Iranian retaliation. He also 127 00:06:17,060 --> 00:06:21,180 S6: said the attack was necessary. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said 128 00:06:21,180 --> 00:06:25,340 S6: Israel had no choice. Calling the threat from Iran urgent. 129 00:06:25,580 --> 00:06:30,420 S7: After we hit their nuclear sites and their ballistic missiles program, 130 00:06:30,420 --> 00:06:33,740 S7: you'd think they learn a lesson. But they didn't because 131 00:06:33,740 --> 00:06:38,380 S7: they're unreformable. So they started building new sites, new places, 132 00:06:38,420 --> 00:06:42,620 S7: underground bunkers that would make their ballistic missile program and 133 00:06:42,620 --> 00:06:46,060 S7: their atomic bomb programs immune within months. 134 00:06:46,420 --> 00:06:49,820 S6: Trump also said that the largest phase of strikes is 135 00:06:49,820 --> 00:06:53,580 S6: still ahead. We haven't even started hitting them hard. The 136 00:06:53,580 --> 00:06:57,430 S6: big wave hasn't even happened. The big one is coming soon. 137 00:06:57,950 --> 00:07:01,830 S6: The human toll is rising. U.S. military officials confirm that 138 00:07:01,830 --> 00:07:04,830 S6: six American service members have been killed in the first 139 00:07:04,830 --> 00:07:08,350 S6: three days of the war, including troops killed in an 140 00:07:08,350 --> 00:07:12,510 S6: Iranian strike on a base housing American forces in Kuwait. 141 00:07:12,670 --> 00:07:16,430 S6: At the Pentagon, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth was asked by 142 00:07:16,430 --> 00:07:19,910 S6: a CBS reporter about praying for U.S. forces. 143 00:07:19,950 --> 00:07:22,590 S8: As you've said, there are a large amount of U.S. 144 00:07:22,590 --> 00:07:25,590 S8: service members that are in harm's way right now. What 145 00:07:25,590 --> 00:07:26,790 S8: is your prayer for them? 146 00:07:26,830 --> 00:07:28,830 S9: I know we think about them with every decision that 147 00:07:28,830 --> 00:07:31,390 S9: we make and every recommendation that we make to the 148 00:07:31,390 --> 00:07:36,110 S9: president of United States, those those those recommendations are made prayerfully. 149 00:07:36,670 --> 00:07:39,750 S9: And when I pray every day for them and for 150 00:07:39,750 --> 00:07:43,150 S9: this mission, I pray simply for the biblical wisdom to 151 00:07:43,190 --> 00:07:45,950 S9: see what is right and the courage to do it. 152 00:07:45,990 --> 00:07:49,990 S6: The U.S. State Department is urging Americans to immediately depart 153 00:07:49,990 --> 00:07:53,680 S6: from more than a dozen Middle Eastern countries, including Israel. 154 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,920 S6: As the conflict deepens, with American forces now engaged evacuation 155 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,440 S6: warnings in place and leaders signaling that more strikes are coming. 156 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:08,200 S6: The Middle East stands on the edge. Joshua Swanson, CBN news, Jerusalem. 157 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,240 S1: So let me go back. And I'm you know the 158 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,600 S1: way that you handle evil is you expose it to 159 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,000 S1: the disinfectant of sunlight. This most pernicious question is being 160 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,840 S1: asked by many people in the press which is somehow 161 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,120 S1: did the United States get involved at the behest of Israel? 162 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,440 S1: In other words, they whistled and we responded. Nothing could 163 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,640 S1: be farther from the truth. And it's been really interesting 164 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,679 S1: to watch Secretary of State Marco Rubio handle the pressure 165 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,760 S1: from the press. He's up on Capitol Hill again today. 166 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,079 S1: He's doing all of these briefings. He's answering questions. They've 167 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,520 S1: worked studiously within the parameters of the law. Uh, the 168 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,240 S1: whole idea of the War Powers Act is fallacious on 169 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,480 S1: its face. Congress believes they have the right to determine that. 170 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,080 S1: The Constitution says otherwise. By the way, with one exception. 171 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,090 S1: The president remembers the commander in chief. And so if, 172 00:08:54,130 --> 00:08:56,209 S1: in fact, Congress were to pass the War Powers Act 173 00:08:56,210 --> 00:08:58,410 S1: that said, no, we withdraw our authority. You have to 174 00:08:58,410 --> 00:09:01,090 S1: do it. Well, the Constitution then gives the president the 175 00:09:01,090 --> 00:09:03,330 S1: right to veto that. Then it would go back to 176 00:09:03,370 --> 00:09:05,370 S1: Capitol Hill, where you would have to have a two 177 00:09:05,370 --> 00:09:09,130 S1: thirds majority of both houses to override the president's veto. 178 00:09:09,170 --> 00:09:13,090 S1: That would never happen. Just count noses and where people's 179 00:09:13,090 --> 00:09:16,770 S1: positions are. That simply would never happen. So Marco Rubio today, 180 00:09:16,770 --> 00:09:19,890 S1: when asked that question about somehow we're following Israel's lead 181 00:09:19,890 --> 00:09:22,650 S1: on this, said, no, we would have done it anyway. 182 00:09:22,809 --> 00:09:25,010 S1: They were as much a threat to us as they 183 00:09:25,050 --> 00:09:28,050 S1: were to Israel. It's imperative we keep that in mind. 184 00:09:28,090 --> 00:09:29,530 S1: When we come back. We're going to talk to a 185 00:09:29,530 --> 00:09:32,530 S1: woman who loves, prays for and works for Iran. More 186 00:09:32,530 --> 00:09:49,770 S1: after this. The Bible calls us to be bold and 187 00:09:49,770 --> 00:09:51,900 S1: courageous for the cause of the cross, but too often 188 00:09:51,900 --> 00:09:54,780 S1: we retreat because of fear of cultural blowback. That's why 189 00:09:54,780 --> 00:09:56,819 S1: I've chosen Call to Take a bold stand as this 190 00:09:56,820 --> 00:09:59,420 S1: month's truth tool. Discover how to overcome the fear of 191 00:09:59,420 --> 00:10:02,620 S1: intimidation or persecution. As for your copy of Call to 192 00:10:02,660 --> 00:10:04,220 S1: Take a Bold Stand, when you give a gift of 193 00:10:04,220 --> 00:10:07,780 S1: any amount to in the market, call 877. 58. That's 194 00:10:07,780 --> 00:10:11,580 S1: eight 7758 or go to in the market with Janet partial. 195 00:10:14,820 --> 00:10:18,699 S3: Cheering the country they love and supporting those back home. 196 00:10:18,820 --> 00:10:23,580 S3: Several hundred Iranian Americans marching to Times Square Sunday hoping 197 00:10:23,580 --> 00:10:26,260 S3: the Iranian people will finally have a chance to be 198 00:10:26,260 --> 00:10:30,380 S3: free now that Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and 40 of his 199 00:10:30,380 --> 00:10:31,979 S3: top officials are dead. 200 00:10:32,020 --> 00:10:35,260 S10: I was crying and dancing the whole day yesterday after 201 00:10:35,260 --> 00:10:39,260 S10: 50 days of torture that they killed so many innocent lives. 202 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:42,780 S3: This Iranian American NYU student came to the U.S. in 203 00:10:42,780 --> 00:10:47,140 S3: 2023 and remembers being hit by rubber bullets during the 204 00:10:47,140 --> 00:10:51,429 S3: Iranian protest for Mahsa Amini, who died in police custody 205 00:10:51,429 --> 00:10:52,270 S3: in Iran. 206 00:10:52,270 --> 00:10:55,030 S10: We would cover our faces because we were fearing for 207 00:10:55,030 --> 00:10:58,709 S10: our lives. They were my friends and my classmates being 208 00:10:58,750 --> 00:11:02,870 S10: taken away from us just right in front of my eyes. 209 00:11:05,150 --> 00:11:10,910 S3: Why? They say they're celebrating Khamenei's death and carrying the 210 00:11:10,910 --> 00:11:14,670 S3: old Persian flag, as well as the American and Israeli, 211 00:11:14,670 --> 00:11:17,069 S3: and honoring the protesters killed. 212 00:11:17,150 --> 00:11:20,630 S11: We are honoring all the peoples that were murdered by 213 00:11:20,630 --> 00:11:23,150 S11: the Ayatollah regime 50 days ago. 214 00:11:23,670 --> 00:11:25,949 S3: Hosseini was only two when she fled to the U.S. 215 00:11:25,950 --> 00:11:30,830 S3: with her family after the 1979 Islamic revolution. Her family 216 00:11:30,870 --> 00:11:34,390 S3: still in Iran, part of the oppressed Baha'i Faith. There's 217 00:11:34,390 --> 00:11:37,270 S3: not one person that I know that's outside of Iran, 218 00:11:37,270 --> 00:11:40,510 S3: that's Iranian, that doesn't have a family member or a 219 00:11:40,510 --> 00:11:44,350 S3: friend or, you know, even acquaintances that they know that 220 00:11:44,350 --> 00:11:48,030 S3: have been like, slaughtered. This march, organized by the Lion 221 00:11:48,030 --> 00:11:51,920 S3: and Sun group. They want exiled Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi 222 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,840 S3: to go back to Iran and lead a transitional government 223 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,280 S3: until the Iranian people can determine their own fate. 224 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,880 S12: We want our brothers and sisters back home in Iran 225 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,920 S12: to have the same rights and privileges we do. 226 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,480 S3: Those rights they know come with a price. Three American 227 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,680 S3: service members have been killed. 228 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,880 S13: It hurts me with all my heart. I feel bad 229 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,440 S13: for them, but they are our heroes. 230 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,280 S3: In Times Square. Christine Sloan, CBS news, New York. 231 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,239 S1: Joining us now is Lana Silk. She serves as president 232 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,240 S1: and chief executive officer of Transform Iran, where she is 233 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,040 S1: committed to bringing freedom and lasting transformation to the people 234 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,320 S1: of Iran through ministry and humanitarian aid. One of the 235 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,640 S1: warmest of welcomes. I have so much to ask you. 236 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,560 S1: And too short a period of time right out of 237 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,520 S1: the gate. But tell me first, as an Iranian, what 238 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,960 S1: went through your mind when you woke up Saturday morning 239 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,640 S1: and you know that Operation Epic Fury had begun? 240 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,130 S14: Complete disbelief. You know, you you hope for something. You 241 00:12:51,130 --> 00:12:54,250 S14: pray for something. We hadn't specifically prayed for America to 242 00:12:54,450 --> 00:12:57,930 S14: attack Iran, but this is becoming more and more. Apparently 243 00:12:57,929 --> 00:12:59,690 S14: the only way that we're going to get freedom for 244 00:12:59,690 --> 00:13:02,410 S14: the people of Iran. So it was a long awaited 245 00:13:02,410 --> 00:13:04,530 S14: and anticipated, and we were pretty excited for what it 246 00:13:04,530 --> 00:13:05,210 S14: might lead to. 247 00:13:06,170 --> 00:13:08,530 S1: You know, it's interesting, we just heard that news report 248 00:13:08,530 --> 00:13:10,690 S1: of people dancing in the streets over the weekend. I 249 00:13:10,690 --> 00:13:14,410 S1: was posting on X celebrations from Australia to the Netherlands. 250 00:13:14,450 --> 00:13:17,650 S1: Iranians all around the globe are cheering up and down. 251 00:13:17,650 --> 00:13:20,610 S1: So while they're, you know, boohooing and stroking their beers 252 00:13:20,610 --> 00:13:22,490 S1: in Congress, wondering this is the right or the wrong 253 00:13:22,530 --> 00:13:24,929 S1: thing to do, I look at the exuberance of the 254 00:13:24,929 --> 00:13:27,610 S1: Iranian people thinking there was no question in my mind 255 00:13:27,610 --> 00:13:29,850 S1: this was the right thing to do. Tell me about 256 00:13:29,850 --> 00:13:32,290 S1: what you're hearing. And I know the communication has been 257 00:13:32,290 --> 00:13:34,170 S1: cut off, and it's very difficult to get into the 258 00:13:34,170 --> 00:13:37,370 S1: country now to find stories. But are any sources getting 259 00:13:37,370 --> 00:13:39,809 S1: back to you, telling you how Iranians are doing now 260 00:13:39,809 --> 00:13:40,890 S1: in the midst of this? 261 00:13:41,690 --> 00:13:44,250 S14: Yes. So what you're seeing in those little snippets that 262 00:13:44,250 --> 00:13:47,050 S14: have come out is consistent with what we're hearing. People 263 00:13:47,050 --> 00:13:50,980 S14: are genuinely excited. Of course there's concern. It's war. There's 264 00:13:50,980 --> 00:13:52,380 S14: going to be a loss of life. But I think 265 00:13:52,380 --> 00:13:56,620 S14: different to normal circumstances when a country invades another. Iranians 266 00:13:56,620 --> 00:14:01,980 S14: were already being killed and persecuted and oppressed. So there 267 00:14:01,980 --> 00:14:04,260 S14: was a very natural way up here. Either we can 268 00:14:04,260 --> 00:14:07,980 S14: continue to be brutalized by our regime and tens of thousands, 269 00:14:08,020 --> 00:14:11,860 S14: hundreds of thousands more will die. Or perhaps hundreds, perhaps 270 00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:15,220 S14: a few thousand will die. Still devastating, but a lot 271 00:14:15,220 --> 00:14:17,940 S14: less if we get attacked and we get freedom from 272 00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:18,660 S14: this regime. 273 00:14:18,940 --> 00:14:21,980 S1: Exactly. I want to ask you about sort of the 274 00:14:22,020 --> 00:14:24,660 S1: secular geopolitical aspects of this before I get into the 275 00:14:24,660 --> 00:14:28,660 S1: ministerial part of this. So nature abhors a vacuum. And 276 00:14:28,660 --> 00:14:31,300 S1: when and if, God willing, the regime is totally and 277 00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:34,780 S1: completely toppled and there are no more ayatollahs who step 278 00:14:34,780 --> 00:14:37,380 S1: into place, how do the Iranian people, because they don't 279 00:14:37,380 --> 00:14:40,220 S1: have their own militia, how will they possibly bring a 280 00:14:40,220 --> 00:14:43,580 S1: leader to bear to fill that vacuum? So another evil 281 00:14:43,580 --> 00:14:45,220 S1: ayatollah doesn't take their place? 282 00:14:45,980 --> 00:14:48,390 S14: Well, the really good news here, John, is that we 283 00:14:48,390 --> 00:14:51,310 S14: aren't facing a vacuum because we have a very viable 284 00:14:51,310 --> 00:14:55,350 S14: interim government waiting in the wings outside Iran to come in. 285 00:14:55,350 --> 00:14:58,470 S14: So the crown prince of Iran, Reza Pahlavi, whose father 286 00:14:58,470 --> 00:15:00,870 S14: was the Shah that was exiled when the ayatollahs first 287 00:15:00,870 --> 00:15:04,030 S14: took charge in 1979, he is in his 60s and 288 00:15:04,030 --> 00:15:06,790 S14: he has been preparing his whole life for this moment. 289 00:15:06,830 --> 00:15:10,710 S14: He has a lot of support. Vast majority of Iranians 290 00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:13,870 S14: in and out of the country are behind him, and 291 00:15:13,870 --> 00:15:16,830 S14: he has done a lot of work in gathering all 292 00:15:16,830 --> 00:15:21,470 S14: the voices, representing them, preparing documents and a whole booklet 293 00:15:21,510 --> 00:15:23,150 S14: of what it's going to look like to go in 294 00:15:23,150 --> 00:15:25,590 S14: and set up this interim government that will then lead 295 00:15:25,590 --> 00:15:28,670 S14: to referendum, where the people can choose their own leadership. So, 296 00:15:28,750 --> 00:15:30,750 S14: in short, we're not facing a vacuum as long as 297 00:15:30,750 --> 00:15:32,630 S14: enough of the ayatollahs are taken out. 298 00:15:33,070 --> 00:15:35,590 S1: Wow, that is such an encouraging word for our listeners. 299 00:15:35,590 --> 00:15:39,110 S1: I'm sure in speaking with Doctor Shahriyar of Iran Alive 300 00:15:39,110 --> 00:15:41,230 S1: Ministries yesterday, he said, one of the things we should 301 00:15:41,230 --> 00:15:44,790 S1: be praying for is that the Revolutionary Guard flip, that 302 00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:47,000 S1: some of them who did it for the sake of 303 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,640 S1: preserving their own lives might embrace this idea of freedom 304 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,840 S1: and self-governance, and that they might help bring about this 305 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,640 S1: new government. Do you think that's feasible? 306 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,560 S14: Yeah, I think it is. We have been praying for 307 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,040 S14: in similar lines, particularly for what we've been calling moral courage, 308 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,480 S14: that those who've been given wicked instructions will have the 309 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,440 S14: moral courage to stand up and say, oh, this isn't okay, 310 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,600 S14: I'm not going to do this. And we've had multiple 311 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,200 S14: testimonies from Iran of IRGC agents who have have demonstrated 312 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,600 S14: exactly this. So we've already seen the early signs of 313 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,480 S14: a change of hearts and minds, very early signs. But 314 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,200 S14: it's there. And bear in mind that there are a 315 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,440 S14: minority in Iran's leadership who have this religious ideological mindset. 316 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,560 S14: And for this minority, death is the only outcome here. 317 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,400 S14: Either they win or they die. There's no there's no 318 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,560 S14: switching sides. But that's the minority. There are a large 319 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:45,610 S14: number of IRGC agents and other government officials, Affiliated people 320 00:16:45,650 --> 00:16:48,330 S14: who are there for mercenary reasons, whether it's corruption or 321 00:16:48,330 --> 00:16:51,530 S14: greed or power or wealth. So those are the people 322 00:16:51,530 --> 00:16:53,370 S14: that will be easier to flip once they see they're 323 00:16:53,370 --> 00:16:54,130 S14: on the losing side. 324 00:16:54,170 --> 00:16:57,730 S1: Yes. Well stated. When we come back, Lana, this may 325 00:16:57,770 --> 00:16:59,970 S1: be for many people listening all across the country, the 326 00:16:59,970 --> 00:17:03,370 S1: very first introduction to transform Iran. Tell me about how 327 00:17:03,370 --> 00:17:05,810 S1: it began. Tell me about your dad. Tell me about 328 00:17:05,810 --> 00:17:08,970 S1: what transform Iran does, and then give us some specific 329 00:17:08,970 --> 00:17:11,050 S1: ways that we can actually be praying as followers of 330 00:17:11,050 --> 00:17:13,810 S1: Jesus right now. It's more than the headlines at the 331 00:17:13,810 --> 00:17:15,970 S1: root of all of this. There is spiritual war. So 332 00:17:15,970 --> 00:17:18,810 S1: what can we do to pray effectively during this time? 333 00:17:18,850 --> 00:17:21,450 S1: Lana Silke is with us. She serves as president and 334 00:17:21,450 --> 00:17:24,810 S1: chief executive officer of Transform Iran. I have a link, 335 00:17:24,810 --> 00:17:27,010 S1: by the way, to their website on my information page. 336 00:17:27,010 --> 00:17:31,250 S1: Very easy. Transform Iran. Com and on the right hand side, 337 00:17:31,250 --> 00:17:34,810 S1: some firsthand accounts from Iran's protesters back after this. 338 00:17:59,220 --> 00:18:03,780 S15: He remains firmly committed to respecting the sovereignty and territorial 339 00:18:03,780 --> 00:18:10,300 S15: integrity of its neighbouring countries. Under no circumstances will we 340 00:18:10,300 --> 00:18:14,580 S15: target the sovereignty, people or interests of our neighbouring countries 341 00:18:14,580 --> 00:18:15,740 S15: in the Persian Gulf. 342 00:18:16,340 --> 00:18:17,900 S1: Of course, that turned out to be a lie. And 343 00:18:17,900 --> 00:18:20,420 S1: it's a calculator blunder, by the way, on the part 344 00:18:20,420 --> 00:18:24,460 S1: of Iran. Now we know that Saudi Arabia has been hit. UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait. 345 00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:26,180 S1: The list goes on and on and on. Thinking that 346 00:18:26,180 --> 00:18:29,140 S1: somehow it would draw ire out of those nation states 347 00:18:29,140 --> 00:18:31,460 S1: against the United States and against Israel. And it's had 348 00:18:31,460 --> 00:18:34,300 S1: exactly the opposite effect. Lana Silk is with us. She 349 00:18:34,300 --> 00:18:37,899 S1: serves as president and chief executive officer of Transform Iran. 350 00:18:38,380 --> 00:18:42,420 S1: I'm fascinated by how Transform Iran began. Tell me about 351 00:18:42,420 --> 00:18:44,990 S1: your father. First of all, what an amazing name. Lazarus. 352 00:18:45,030 --> 00:18:45,550 S1: Tell me about. 353 00:18:45,550 --> 00:18:46,389 S16: Him. Yes. 354 00:18:46,790 --> 00:18:49,910 S14: Um, my dad is the son of Seth Nazar, who 355 00:18:49,950 --> 00:18:52,510 S14: is really one of the, if not the founding father, 356 00:18:52,510 --> 00:18:55,030 S14: one of the founding fathers of the church in Iran today. 357 00:18:55,310 --> 00:18:58,950 S14: My grandfather had a powerful supernatural encounter after a 42 358 00:18:58,990 --> 00:19:02,550 S14: day fast. And following that, they had meetings in their 359 00:19:02,550 --> 00:19:05,150 S14: home every night. So for four years, my dad and 360 00:19:05,150 --> 00:19:08,430 S14: his five siblings had meetings in their home every night, 361 00:19:08,430 --> 00:19:10,790 S14: and they began to reach the community around them. And 362 00:19:10,790 --> 00:19:12,910 S14: many people got saved through those meetings to the point 363 00:19:12,910 --> 00:19:15,190 S14: that there was just no room at the house for 364 00:19:15,190 --> 00:19:17,709 S14: any more people. And, you know, from there it sort 365 00:19:17,710 --> 00:19:20,150 S14: of got more, got more formally registered with a building 366 00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:22,949 S14: and a name. And my mom got saved through those meetings. 367 00:19:23,150 --> 00:19:26,030 S14: So my parents have always served the Lord. They've grown 368 00:19:26,030 --> 00:19:30,950 S14: up in that supernatural context and always wanted to serve 369 00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:35,389 S14: their country. Um, very hard ground before the revolution. No 370 00:19:35,390 --> 00:19:38,430 S14: interest really. My dad was imprisoned twice in the time 371 00:19:38,430 --> 00:19:41,030 S14: of the Shah because even though it was legally okay 372 00:19:41,030 --> 00:19:42,920 S14: for him to talk about the Jesus. The people were 373 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,240 S14: so adamant that he should be taken off the streets 374 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,200 S14: and arrested because he was defiling, in their words, their 375 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,240 S14: streets with the name of Jesus. So it was after 376 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,200 S14: this that the revolution came in and everything got shut 377 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,240 S14: down and closed. We had ten years of war with Iraq. 378 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,680 S14: And suddenly in that context, people began to get more 379 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,200 S14: and more hungry for the gospel, more and more interest, 380 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,560 S14: but also persecution increasing. And a lot of the Christian 381 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,520 S14: leaders leaving. And then the Lord gave my parents a dream. 382 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,000 S14: I'm sorry. He spoke to them in their, um, devotions 383 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 S14: and said, you need. You need to leave. They were 384 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,399 S14: very nervous about that and felt they must have heard wrong. 385 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,400 S14: Spent a month praying and fasting trying to figure it out. 386 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,719 S14: Finally brought it up with each other. Eventually brought it 387 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,800 S14: up with the overseeing pastor all the time thinking could 388 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,160 S14: we have possibly heard right? Our call is here. The 389 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,080 S14: overseeing pastor thought they'd heard wrong and he had a dream. 390 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,560 S14: And God spoke to him in his dream and said, no, 391 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,560 S14: this is right. I need these guys out. So he 392 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,600 S14: woke us up. Sense of urgency. Early hours in the morning. Yep. 393 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,359 S14: You heard right. And it's urgent. You got to get 394 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,010 S14: out of the country. So we left very quickly. I 395 00:20:42,010 --> 00:20:44,649 S14: was coming up to my 10th birthday when that happened. 396 00:20:44,850 --> 00:20:46,889 S14: They had no idea why they were leaving and after 397 00:20:46,890 --> 00:20:49,650 S14: they left, God spoke to them and said, the persecution 398 00:20:49,650 --> 00:20:52,850 S14: is going to increase. God is um, the church is 399 00:20:52,850 --> 00:20:56,530 S14: going to be driven underground under great scrutiny. But you 400 00:20:56,530 --> 00:20:59,170 S14: are here to prepare for an open Iran. The doors 401 00:20:59,210 --> 00:21:02,370 S14: are going to open again. Oh, I'm getting emotional. And 402 00:21:02,369 --> 00:21:05,409 S14: you need to. You need to prepare the church. Uh, 403 00:21:05,410 --> 00:21:07,730 S14: you know, prepare the church for an open Iran. Get 404 00:21:07,730 --> 00:21:11,810 S14: the church pastors trained, get the resources ready, get the 405 00:21:11,810 --> 00:21:14,370 S14: Bibles translated because you're going to be they're all going 406 00:21:14,410 --> 00:21:17,970 S14: to be needed. And here we are, 36, 35 years later. 407 00:21:17,970 --> 00:21:20,770 S14: And God was right, as always. And we have been 408 00:21:20,770 --> 00:21:22,450 S14: preparing for 35 years. 409 00:21:22,650 --> 00:21:25,129 S1: Oh how humbling. Let me point out a couple of 410 00:21:25,130 --> 00:21:27,330 S1: things about your dad, which I think is important, and 411 00:21:27,330 --> 00:21:30,090 S1: I hope people fall in love with Persians. I mean, 412 00:21:30,130 --> 00:21:32,410 S1: there's such a rich history here. This was a massive, 413 00:21:32,410 --> 00:21:36,610 S1: historically important empire and such a rich, historic nation. And 414 00:21:36,609 --> 00:21:39,210 S1: we need to understand who Persians are. And I've just 415 00:21:39,210 --> 00:21:41,859 S1: I've fallen in love with the Persian people I truly have. 416 00:21:42,180 --> 00:21:44,020 S1: I want you to know. I want our audience to 417 00:21:44,020 --> 00:21:47,100 S1: know that your dad prayed with the Crown Prince, who 418 00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:49,260 S1: may be the man who steps in to take leadership, 419 00:21:49,260 --> 00:21:52,300 S1: but also very germane to us here in the United States. 420 00:21:52,420 --> 00:21:54,420 S1: I want you to know that Lazarus was invited to 421 00:21:54,460 --> 00:21:58,899 S1: minister to the US hostages in Tehran in 1979. That's 422 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:02,580 S1: when the the the revolution started. That's when we had 423 00:22:02,619 --> 00:22:05,820 S1: hostages for over 400 days. I heard a testimony of 424 00:22:05,820 --> 00:22:08,180 S1: one of the hostages today say that he was held 425 00:22:08,180 --> 00:22:10,659 S1: in solitary for 40 days. One man was there for 426 00:22:10,660 --> 00:22:13,780 S1: over 400 days. He said he didn't know how they survived, 427 00:22:13,780 --> 00:22:16,700 S1: but they did. God was gracious and the hostages came home. 428 00:22:16,700 --> 00:22:18,740 S1: But I want to go to your point, which is, 429 00:22:19,580 --> 00:22:21,660 S1: you know, sometimes I'm jealous. Why is it so often 430 00:22:21,660 --> 00:22:23,620 S1: in the Middle East that there are dreams and visions 431 00:22:23,619 --> 00:22:25,260 S1: so much more than what we seem to hear about 432 00:22:25,260 --> 00:22:27,260 S1: here in the United States? But God's not willing that 433 00:22:27,260 --> 00:22:29,419 S1: any should perish. And so he's going to use dreams 434 00:22:29,420 --> 00:22:32,100 S1: and visions. But I love the fact that this just 435 00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:33,700 S1: might be that moment. You don't want to get ahead 436 00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:35,859 S1: of God, but I know our hearts are beating a 437 00:22:35,859 --> 00:22:38,660 S1: little bit faster. That was the reason that they were 438 00:22:38,660 --> 00:22:41,700 S1: that transform Iran was called out, was to get ready 439 00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:43,740 S1: to go back in. And that moment of going back 440 00:22:43,740 --> 00:22:47,540 S1: in openly now planting churches, spreading the gospel of Jesus 441 00:22:47,540 --> 00:22:50,700 S1: Christ might be the hour. I mean, that starts taking 442 00:22:50,700 --> 00:22:51,899 S1: your breath away, doesn't it? 443 00:22:52,220 --> 00:22:55,300 S14: It does every day. Honestly, Jenna, I can't believe just 444 00:22:55,300 --> 00:22:58,859 S14: the privilege, the awesome weight of living at a time 445 00:22:58,859 --> 00:23:01,500 S14: like this and just having the joy of seeing the 446 00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:06,139 S14: fulfillment of so many years of promise, of preparation, of prayer, 447 00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:08,859 S14: of sacrifice. It's truly exciting. 448 00:23:09,220 --> 00:23:12,580 S1: Wow. And is not the country ripe for the gospel 449 00:23:12,580 --> 00:23:14,820 S1: right now? Because many have moved away? Because they've seen 450 00:23:14,820 --> 00:23:17,220 S1: the ayatollahs. They went, oh, we don't want Islam anymore. 451 00:23:17,260 --> 00:23:19,980 S1: Then the pendulum swung. They got involved in atheism that 452 00:23:19,980 --> 00:23:22,100 S1: left him with a hole in their heart. And now 453 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:24,260 S1: it seems to me it's an opportunity to say, well, 454 00:23:24,260 --> 00:23:26,540 S1: let me learn something about this. Jesus. One of the 455 00:23:26,540 --> 00:23:29,179 S1: things I posted on X was a bunch of Iranians 456 00:23:29,619 --> 00:23:33,139 S1: singing the Waymaker, and I got goosebumps thinking about. That's 457 00:23:33,140 --> 00:23:36,580 S1: just the beginning of what could be a massive turnaround 458 00:23:36,580 --> 00:23:39,830 S1: theologically if the gospel comes in in Iran, we should 459 00:23:39,830 --> 00:23:41,230 S1: be praying to that end, should we not? 460 00:23:41,869 --> 00:23:45,030 S14: Absolutely. And, you know, it's kind of an easy prayer, Janet, 461 00:23:45,030 --> 00:23:48,310 S14: because God is already demonstrating what he's capable of in 462 00:23:48,350 --> 00:23:50,950 S14: that country and the way he's been supernaturally drawing people 463 00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:53,590 S14: to himself. We're on the winning side. We've seen what 464 00:23:53,630 --> 00:23:55,389 S14: God can do. Really, we just get to do the 465 00:23:55,390 --> 00:23:58,270 S14: easy part and riding the wave of what he's already 466 00:23:58,270 --> 00:24:00,590 S14: doing and getting to catch some of these, the fish 467 00:24:00,590 --> 00:24:03,430 S14: that he's just handing over to us. It's truly exciting. 468 00:24:03,710 --> 00:24:06,310 S1: Love it. I have 30s Lana, what's the best way 469 00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:07,750 S1: for us to be praying right now? 470 00:24:08,710 --> 00:24:11,470 S14: Pray for a righteous transition of government and for God's 471 00:24:11,470 --> 00:24:14,230 S14: mercy to prevail over everything that's happening right now. 472 00:24:14,510 --> 00:24:17,270 S1: Wow, you could not have said that better and more succinctly. 473 00:24:17,550 --> 00:24:20,990 S1: May this be the beginning of many more conversations. Because 474 00:24:20,990 --> 00:24:23,909 S1: if the president is right, if what we're sensing here 475 00:24:23,910 --> 00:24:26,310 S1: in Washington, D.C. is right, this is not going to 476 00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:29,230 S1: be instantaneous. It could be weeks, it could be months, 477 00:24:29,230 --> 00:24:31,590 S1: but it must be done and it must be done completely. 478 00:24:31,590 --> 00:24:35,070 S1: Many opportunities. The task has never been finished. Lord, may 479 00:24:35,070 --> 00:24:38,320 S1: it be that this time true lasting freedom comes to 480 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,359 S1: the Iranian people. Thank you so very much. Again, I 481 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,080 S1: want you to go to the website so you can 482 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,000 S1: learn more about this fabulous ministry. Transform Iran. Com thank 483 00:24:47,000 --> 00:25:15,159 S1: you Alana, back after this. 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Become a partial partner today by 490 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,000 S1: calling 877 Janet 58 or go online to In the 491 00:25:36,130 --> 00:25:37,649 S1: market with Janet Parshall. 492 00:25:40,609 --> 00:25:44,330 S17: Israel and the US this morning are tearing Iran's military 493 00:25:44,330 --> 00:25:48,250 S17: and leadership to pieces with new attacks overnight and this 494 00:25:48,250 --> 00:25:54,449 S17: morning rocking Tehran and other cities as the Pentagon raised 495 00:25:54,450 --> 00:25:57,450 S17: the death toll to at least six U.S. service members 496 00:25:57,450 --> 00:26:00,409 S17: killed by an Iranian attack on a base in Kuwait. 497 00:26:00,450 --> 00:26:04,010 S17: President Trump says the war could last 4 to 5 498 00:26:04,010 --> 00:26:05,609 S17: weeks or longer. 499 00:26:05,970 --> 00:26:08,010 S18: They said, oh, well, the president wants to do it 500 00:26:08,050 --> 00:26:10,850 S18: really quickly. After that, he'll get bored. I don't get bored. 501 00:26:11,810 --> 00:26:13,450 S18: There's nothing boring about this. 502 00:26:13,850 --> 00:26:17,649 S17: More American troops and jets are being deployed to join 503 00:26:17,650 --> 00:26:18,290 S17: the fight. 504 00:26:18,650 --> 00:26:20,650 S19: The hardest hits are yet to come. 505 00:26:21,170 --> 00:26:25,210 S17: Still, huge crowds of Iranians flooded the streets for a 506 00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:30,170 S17: mass funeral. Iran says more than 150 people were killed 507 00:26:30,170 --> 00:26:33,369 S17: by a U.S. or Israeli attack on a girls school 508 00:26:33,369 --> 00:26:37,500 S17: this weekend. The U.S. military says it's investigating what happened. 509 00:26:37,540 --> 00:26:43,820 S17: This is now an expanding regional war in Lebanon. This morning, 510 00:26:43,859 --> 00:26:49,220 S17: Israel is dramatically intensifying the fight against the pro-Iranian militia Hezbollah. 511 00:26:49,540 --> 00:26:54,179 S17: The Israeli military says it's seizing more Lebanese territory after 512 00:26:54,180 --> 00:26:58,420 S17: Hezbollah fired rockets into Israel, while Iran is fighting on 513 00:26:58,420 --> 00:27:02,020 S17: multiple fronts. The US embassy in Riyadh was hit by 514 00:27:02,020 --> 00:27:05,899 S17: drones and caught fire. The embassy in Amman, Jordan, also 515 00:27:05,940 --> 00:27:07,180 S17: evacuated staff. 516 00:27:08,340 --> 00:27:09,780 S20: Get away from the windows. 517 00:27:10,060 --> 00:27:13,900 S17: The State Department issued a blanket warning advising Americans to 518 00:27:13,940 --> 00:27:18,260 S17: evacuate by commercial means from 14 countries, covering most of 519 00:27:18,260 --> 00:27:22,219 S17: the Middle East. But the thousands of American government workers, 520 00:27:22,260 --> 00:27:25,740 S17: visitors and long term residents in the region have few options. 521 00:27:26,140 --> 00:27:30,060 S17: With most airports closed and we're seeing more of what 522 00:27:30,060 --> 00:27:34,510 S17: happened to those American pilots accidentally shot down by Kuwaiti 523 00:27:34,550 --> 00:27:39,190 S17: air Defence in friendly fire yesterday. The crews ejected and 524 00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:43,150 S17: got to safety. Kuwaitis tried to help this American pilot. 525 00:27:43,710 --> 00:27:48,510 S21: You're fine. Really? You need something to help you? No. 526 00:27:48,510 --> 00:27:50,910 S21: I'm okay. No problem. You're safe. 527 00:27:52,790 --> 00:27:55,109 S1: Interesting, isn't it? Boy, is there a spin on that story, 528 00:27:55,109 --> 00:27:57,389 S1: by the way, that story about the school. Now, it 529 00:27:57,390 --> 00:27:59,790 S1: is being reported that that might have been done by 530 00:27:59,790 --> 00:28:02,590 S1: Iran unintentionally, but that's part of the fog of war. 531 00:28:02,590 --> 00:28:04,950 S1: But of course, that's a talking point. And the liberal 532 00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:07,710 S1: media outlets are absolutely running with it. Secretary of State 533 00:28:07,710 --> 00:28:10,109 S1: Marco Rubio is on the Hill again today. And again, 534 00:28:10,109 --> 00:28:12,790 S1: he's being questioned about the timing. And they're floating around 535 00:28:12,790 --> 00:28:14,590 S1: this idea of the War Powers Act. I told you 536 00:28:14,590 --> 00:28:16,830 S1: they're probably going to vote on it. And then immediately 537 00:28:16,830 --> 00:28:19,030 S1: the president has the power to veto, and then it 538 00:28:19,030 --> 00:28:20,790 S1: would be kicked back to Capitol Hill. And there has 539 00:28:20,790 --> 00:28:22,709 S1: to be a two thirds majority of both houses to 540 00:28:22,750 --> 00:28:24,790 S1: override it. So in the end, it will be sound 541 00:28:24,790 --> 00:28:26,910 S1: and fury signifying nothing. And oh, by the way, note 542 00:28:26,910 --> 00:28:29,790 S1: your calendars. It is a midterm election. I say no more. 543 00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:33,640 S1: Marco Rubio, in response to the gaggle press, people today said, 544 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,600 S1: let me explain to you guys. This is simple English, okay? 545 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,560 S1: Iran is run by lunatics, religious fanatic lunatics. They have 546 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,840 S1: an ambition to have nuclear weapons. They intend to develop 547 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,920 S1: those nuclear weapons behind a program of missiles and drones 548 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,600 S1: and terrorism, that the world will not be able to 549 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,880 S1: touch them for fear of those things. But what is 550 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,280 S1: never mentioned in any of the reports is the theology 551 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,640 S1: behind the technology. That's why I can't wait to have 552 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,400 S1: a conversation with Al-qadi, who's a former Wahhabi Muslim from 553 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,120 S1: Saudi Arabia. He's a researcher, editor, writer and translator for 554 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,520 S1: numerous ministries, including Answering Islam, Desiring God and Jesus Online. 555 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,720 S1: He is the founder and director of the center for 556 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,200 S1: Islamic Research and Awareness, with a focus on bringing awareness 557 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,160 S1: regarding Islam and building bridges with Muslims, training believers to 558 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,120 S1: reach out to Muslims for the cause of the cross, 559 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,240 S1: and to provide expert opinion on issues related to political 560 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,320 S1: Islam and Sharia law. He is the co-editor, co-author and 561 00:29:32,410 --> 00:29:34,530 S1: contributor of one of the most important books in the 562 00:29:34,530 --> 00:29:37,610 S1: partial household. It's called The Quran Dilemma. It is a 563 00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:41,330 S1: fabulous resource book and it is a critical analysis looking 564 00:29:41,330 --> 00:29:44,010 S1: at the Quran all the warmest. If I could put 565 00:29:44,010 --> 00:29:46,090 S1: my arms through the microphone, I would give you the 566 00:29:46,090 --> 00:29:48,170 S1: warmest of hugs. I have missed talking to you. It 567 00:29:48,170 --> 00:29:50,970 S1: is so good to reconnect with you again, and I 568 00:29:50,970 --> 00:29:53,570 S1: can't wait to ask you a thousand questions about what's 569 00:29:53,570 --> 00:29:56,250 S1: going on. Let me go to the theology because you 570 00:29:56,290 --> 00:30:01,010 S1: are absolutely brilliant in your dissertation on this particular topic. 571 00:30:01,250 --> 00:30:03,770 S1: You know, the ayatollahs are not just religious lunatics, it 572 00:30:03,770 --> 00:30:06,490 S1: is all part of their eschatology. It is part of 573 00:30:06,530 --> 00:30:08,730 S1: their theology. Explain that to our friends. 574 00:30:09,690 --> 00:30:12,370 S22: Yes, Janet, thank you so much, of course, for this 575 00:30:12,370 --> 00:30:15,450 S22: privilege to be with you. You're absolutely correct. There is 576 00:30:15,450 --> 00:30:19,730 S22: a theology behind the technology. And the dangerous thing about 577 00:30:19,850 --> 00:30:24,730 S22: having a theology that governs an entire nation, and in 578 00:30:24,730 --> 00:30:28,410 S22: this case, an entire region, is that there is no 579 00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:33,540 S22: end in sight until this perceived theology achieves its goals. 580 00:30:33,540 --> 00:30:37,500 S22: Here's what's going on. You have Iran right now, as 581 00:30:37,540 --> 00:30:42,820 S22: is this regime for 47 years, believe in the 12th Imam. 582 00:30:42,820 --> 00:30:46,020 S22: So they're called the Twelvers, and they believe basically there 583 00:30:46,020 --> 00:30:50,580 S22: are 12 imams in the history of the Shia version 584 00:30:50,580 --> 00:30:54,860 S22: of Islam that they follow. And number 12 has been 585 00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:59,620 S22: in hiding since basically the 10th century. And the only 586 00:30:59,620 --> 00:31:04,540 S22: way for him to return back here to reality, if 587 00:31:04,540 --> 00:31:08,460 S22: you wish, or to Earth, is that they, as the 588 00:31:08,460 --> 00:31:12,580 S22: keepers of this theology, as the representative of this Imam, 589 00:31:12,860 --> 00:31:16,220 S22: have to fight the enemies of their version of Islam. 590 00:31:16,220 --> 00:31:19,620 S22: That includes Israel, of course, that includes the US and 591 00:31:19,620 --> 00:31:22,420 S22: anyone who is against it, which is like the Gulf 592 00:31:22,420 --> 00:31:26,700 S22: states that representing Sunni Islam, for instance. So the reason 593 00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:29,620 S22: why they do it, because they believe if chaos is created, 594 00:31:29,620 --> 00:31:32,950 S22: that means he will appear? And ultimately they'll have this 595 00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:37,390 S22: victory by wiping out the enemies of their version of Islam. 596 00:31:37,390 --> 00:31:40,390 S22: And as a result of this, they will rule the 597 00:31:40,430 --> 00:31:44,750 S22: region and the world for that matter. And that's the 598 00:31:44,750 --> 00:31:49,310 S22: only time that peace will emanate in the world. And 599 00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:52,910 S22: of course, the Sunnis have another version of that, but 600 00:31:52,910 --> 00:31:56,150 S22: it's not as extreme in the case of the Shia, 601 00:31:56,190 --> 00:31:59,710 S22: like the Twelvers, which is the current Iranian regime, they 602 00:31:59,710 --> 00:32:03,070 S22: believe they have the key to bringing this Imam back. 603 00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:07,430 S22: The Sunnis say Allah himself knows the time when this Mahdi, 604 00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:11,230 S22: the guided one, will come in, which is the nickname 605 00:32:11,230 --> 00:32:12,830 S22: for this 12th Imam. 606 00:32:13,230 --> 00:32:16,870 S1: Wow. Wow. Amazing. So it raises so many questions when 607 00:32:16,870 --> 00:32:20,910 S1: you believe that you're instrumental in bringing this 12th Imam 608 00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:23,390 S1: out of hiding, you're not going to be bothered by 609 00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:26,590 S1: threats from the United States or declarations for the U.N.. 610 00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:30,120 S1: Your attitude is you are on a theological journey. It's 611 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,880 S1: a destiny and it's paramount that you bring it about. 612 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,320 S1: Which raises an interesting subquestion, which is why then, this 613 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,959 S1: hatred toward Israel, Israel, of course, being referred by the 614 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,320 S1: Ayatollah as the Little Satan, the United States as the 615 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,720 S1: Great Satan. But it starts with this animus being fomented 616 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,040 S1: against Israel. How does that factor into their theology? 617 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,160 S22: Well, it factors in at multiple levels, but what many 618 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,760 S22: times media and I would argue the liberal media in particular, 619 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:02,080 S22: ignore the fact that the hatred towards Israel is embedded 620 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,960 S22: within the pages of the Quran itself. So whether you 621 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,120 S22: are a Shia, a Twelver like the current Iranian regime, 622 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,160 S22: or a Sunni, you grew up basically believing that Israel, 623 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,959 S22: the Jews, are the enemies of Allah. And I grew 624 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,800 S22: up this way, I believed it. And add to that 625 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:24,560 S22: the 1947 48 declarations of returning to the Promised Land, 626 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,640 S22: and now they are considered to be the occupier of 627 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,930 S22: the land. And of course, not to mention the the 628 00:33:30,930 --> 00:33:33,610 S22: likes of the Tucker Carlson and the others who are 629 00:33:33,610 --> 00:33:36,850 S22: claiming that the Jews are behind every conspiracy in the world, 630 00:33:37,170 --> 00:33:39,690 S22: which is pretty much what everyone in the Middle East 631 00:33:39,690 --> 00:33:43,610 S22: thinks as well. So you add all of these recipes 632 00:33:43,610 --> 00:33:46,530 S22: together and you get yourself a disaster. You have a 633 00:33:46,530 --> 00:33:50,690 S22: group of people who hate Israel with a passion at 634 00:33:50,730 --> 00:33:55,290 S22: these multiple levels, and therefore wiping off Israel in their mind, 635 00:33:55,330 --> 00:34:01,170 S22: obviously means that hope of restoring the Islamic dynasty is 636 00:34:01,170 --> 00:34:04,570 S22: going to basically become a reality. 637 00:34:04,890 --> 00:34:09,609 S1: Wow. Unbelievable. In these interesting times, is it is it 638 00:34:09,610 --> 00:34:12,689 S1: interesting to you, particularly your nation of birth, that you're 639 00:34:12,690 --> 00:34:16,330 S1: seeing Saudi Arabia say you can use air space? I mean, 640 00:34:16,370 --> 00:34:18,650 S1: that is to me a very interesting coalition. 641 00:34:20,090 --> 00:34:24,490 S22: Absolutely. Because they're beginning to see, uh, how vicious this 642 00:34:24,489 --> 00:34:26,890 S22: regime is. I mean, initially they they didn't want to 643 00:34:26,890 --> 00:34:28,779 S22: get involved, and I don't blame him. I mean, you 644 00:34:28,780 --> 00:34:31,219 S22: don't want to be involved in a regime with a 645 00:34:31,219 --> 00:34:36,020 S22: regime like the Iranian one who is really going to 646 00:34:36,060 --> 00:34:39,980 S22: fire indiscriminately, as we have seen so far. But it 647 00:34:39,980 --> 00:34:42,980 S22: is very obvious that the regime had already the plan 648 00:34:42,980 --> 00:34:45,339 S22: in motion. If I get hit, here is what I'm 649 00:34:45,340 --> 00:34:49,180 S22: going to be doing. And I think it's about time for, uh, 650 00:34:49,260 --> 00:34:54,779 S22: my former country, Saudi and the other Gulf states, obviously, to, uh, 651 00:34:54,780 --> 00:34:57,500 S22: do something about this and put an end to this 652 00:34:57,500 --> 00:35:03,060 S22: 47 years of oppression and manipulation of the entire region. 653 00:35:03,380 --> 00:35:05,779 S1: Exactly. Your comments on what you think is going to 654 00:35:05,780 --> 00:35:08,420 S1: happen with the Strait of Hormuz, because obviously that's going 655 00:35:08,420 --> 00:35:10,739 S1: to have an impact on China because they get 40% 656 00:35:10,739 --> 00:35:13,219 S1: of their oil from the Gulf states. What's going to happen, 657 00:35:13,219 --> 00:35:13,860 S1: do you think? 658 00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:17,660 S22: Well, I mean, as you've heard, I'm sure it's the 659 00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:23,060 S22: insurance companies that cause this right now. And of course, the, uh, 660 00:35:23,180 --> 00:35:27,270 S22: the ICG, uh, they do have, like, speedboats. that could 661 00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:31,950 S22: do some level of harassment, but not to the extent 662 00:35:31,950 --> 00:35:36,310 S22: as before, because they're naval ships are really swimming below 663 00:35:36,350 --> 00:35:38,669 S22: water at the moment. But all that to say is 664 00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:42,710 S22: that I don't know if China has any leverage over 665 00:35:42,750 --> 00:35:45,629 S22: the Lloyd's of the UK or the like, so it 666 00:35:45,630 --> 00:35:48,950 S22: seems like it's an insurance issue. And I would agree 667 00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:52,910 S22: with what President Trump just recently said, that it's just 668 00:35:52,910 --> 00:35:56,270 S22: a temporary thing, and I think it will fix itself 669 00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:58,310 S22: over the course of a few days or maybe a 670 00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:59,390 S22: couple of weeks from now. 671 00:35:59,590 --> 00:36:02,710 S1: Yeah. And I expected the Dow to react immediately, and 672 00:36:02,710 --> 00:36:05,069 S1: particularly with oil prices. And of course we saw that. 673 00:36:05,070 --> 00:36:07,629 S1: But again, anytime there's anything in the Middle East there's 674 00:36:07,630 --> 00:36:10,029 S1: a fluctuation on oil prices there. Let me take a 675 00:36:10,030 --> 00:36:11,590 S1: break if I can at this point. And when I 676 00:36:11,630 --> 00:36:14,390 S1: come back, I would love for you to talk about 677 00:36:14,430 --> 00:36:18,590 S1: why there is such an acceptance. Or maybe it's infiltration. 678 00:36:18,590 --> 00:36:22,070 S1: I've had someone say it's the colonization of Islam in Europe, 679 00:36:22,070 --> 00:36:26,200 S1: particularly in the U.K. Keir Starmer couldn't say fast enough. 680 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,440 S1: The UK had absolutely nothing to do with what happened 681 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,759 S1: over the weekend. But now that two British bases have 682 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,320 S1: been hit in Cyprus today, he sings a different song. 683 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,040 S1: So I would love to get your take on why 684 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,799 S1: is this happening, this acquiescence. We're going to have no 685 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,960 S1: dogs in these parks. You can't put pork in your 686 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,799 S1: sandwiches and take it to school with your child. How 687 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,319 S1: is this happening and why is there this without a 688 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,280 S1: bullet being fired, an acquiescence and a turning over a replacement, 689 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,359 S1: if you will, of values? We're going to talk more 690 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,319 S1: with Al-fatih. So glad that he's with us. He's got 691 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,560 S1: a fabulous organization called Sarah, and it stands for the 692 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,120 S1: center for Islamic Research and Awareness. And I have a 693 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,160 S1: link to their website on my information page back after this. 694 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,719 S1: We are visiting with Al-fatih, who is the founder and 695 00:37:24,770 --> 00:37:27,850 S1: director of the center for Islamic Research and Awareness. It's 696 00:37:27,850 --> 00:37:31,850 S1: called Sierra. Its focus is to bring awareness regarding Islam, 697 00:37:31,850 --> 00:37:35,450 S1: building bridges with Muslims, training believers to reach Muslims for Christ, 698 00:37:35,450 --> 00:37:39,009 S1: and to provide expert opinion on issues related to political 699 00:37:39,010 --> 00:37:41,569 S1: Islam and Sharia law. And it's that last part I 700 00:37:41,570 --> 00:37:44,170 S1: want to look at a little bit, because this is 701 00:37:44,170 --> 00:37:47,450 S1: an interesting time, particularly for us as followers of Jesus. 702 00:37:47,489 --> 00:37:49,930 S1: You know, we know that he's not willing that any 703 00:37:49,930 --> 00:37:51,969 S1: should perish, but that all should come to repentance. And 704 00:37:51,969 --> 00:37:55,050 S1: I want people to love our Muslim friends and be 705 00:37:55,050 --> 00:37:59,210 S1: living epistles for Jesus Christ, ambassadors for Christ in all ways. 706 00:37:59,370 --> 00:38:01,650 S1: But the part that I think is difficult for a 707 00:38:01,650 --> 00:38:04,690 S1: lot of believers is that Islam is not just a religion, 708 00:38:04,690 --> 00:38:07,930 S1: it is a political system. So I think Christians can 709 00:38:07,930 --> 00:38:09,770 S1: walk and chew gum at the same time. We can 710 00:38:09,770 --> 00:38:12,169 S1: be a witness for Christ, but God has also given 711 00:38:12,170 --> 00:38:14,770 S1: us a voice where we can redress through our government 712 00:38:14,770 --> 00:38:17,250 S1: concerns that we have. So we're looking now at the 713 00:38:17,250 --> 00:38:21,489 S1: political aspect of this. Why is there such an immediate acceptance, 714 00:38:21,489 --> 00:38:24,460 S1: or may I be even bolder, an acquiescence in the 715 00:38:24,460 --> 00:38:25,900 S1: UK to Islam. 716 00:38:27,340 --> 00:38:30,220 S22: Well, you're absolutely correct when you state that Islam is 717 00:38:30,219 --> 00:38:33,540 S22: both a religion and a political system since day one. 718 00:38:33,540 --> 00:38:36,060 S22: By the way, it's not like a new movement, for instance. 719 00:38:36,420 --> 00:38:41,020 S22: And the reason for this acquiescence, unfortunately, one is fear, 720 00:38:41,540 --> 00:38:46,380 S22: because Islam is almost like this disgruntled child. If you 721 00:38:46,380 --> 00:38:49,580 S22: don't give them their toys, they start screaming, yelling, and 722 00:38:49,580 --> 00:38:52,459 S22: throwing things at you. And as a result of this, 723 00:38:52,460 --> 00:38:57,020 S22: I think these politicians, of course, uh, learned to appease 724 00:38:57,020 --> 00:39:00,259 S22: and follow the policy. You know, basically the policy of appeasement, 725 00:39:00,260 --> 00:39:05,620 S22: which has failed and failed miserably. Second of all, Islam 726 00:39:05,660 --> 00:39:11,020 S22: in its fabric tries to always infiltrate any society by 727 00:39:11,060 --> 00:39:14,780 S22: looking at the loopholes and the weak links. And usually 728 00:39:14,980 --> 00:39:19,060 S22: liberalism is one of their favorite partners. They try to 729 00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:22,739 S22: partner with them because they stand for minority rights and 730 00:39:22,830 --> 00:39:25,190 S22: for so many other things that Islam gives you the 731 00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:30,190 S22: appearance that it fits within that fabric until they start 732 00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:33,629 S22: basically voting for the right politicians who are sympathizers with them. 733 00:39:33,630 --> 00:39:37,110 S22: And then pretty, pretty soon some Muslims will start running 734 00:39:37,110 --> 00:39:40,910 S22: for office. And then after that, they begin to influence 735 00:39:41,070 --> 00:39:46,550 S22: laws and whether local, national, and at the end, once 736 00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:50,109 S22: they feel like they are a majority enough, even if 737 00:39:50,110 --> 00:39:55,070 S22: there's some minority, but they have enough swaying votes, they 738 00:39:55,070 --> 00:39:59,589 S22: begin to basically gain control and get their way. And 739 00:39:59,590 --> 00:40:03,270 S22: I would tell you, Janet, I think the UK is 740 00:40:03,310 --> 00:40:05,670 S22: well done and you can stick a fork in it 741 00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:12,430 S22: unless something drastic happens. And that basically will require the politicians, 742 00:40:12,430 --> 00:40:16,350 S22: the decision makers today, if they're willing even to reverse course, 743 00:40:16,510 --> 00:40:20,230 S22: to stop this policy of allowing anyone to come in 744 00:40:20,270 --> 00:40:24,759 S22: without being vetted and to also reverse their decisions in 745 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,680 S22: terms of these laws that are allowing people to run 746 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,400 S22: for office just casually, without checking their backgrounds, without basically 747 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,680 S22: revoking their, let's say, legal status. They're stripping them from 748 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:41,080 S22: citizenship if they are harboring terror and terrorism and doing 749 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,280 S22: all of that, which will take at least 20 to 750 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,400 S22: 30 years before you can see the UK coming back 751 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,480 S22: to normalcy. And unfortunately, I would agree with what our 752 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,879 S22: vice president recently said. It's, you know, technically speaking, it's 753 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,880 S22: a cultural suicide that they are committing at the moment. 754 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,040 S1: Are you surprised to see the ascendancy of Sharia law 755 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,319 S1: in America? It's bothersome to me. I don't know how 756 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,360 S1: you have a dual system of jurisprudence. 757 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,600 S22: That is that's the problem is that they're starting to 758 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,520 S22: take advantage of loopholes and weak links, and they're finding 759 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,799 S22: them in cities, and pretty soon probably even states. And 760 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,370 S22: they're going to start first with saying, well, we need 761 00:41:22,370 --> 00:41:26,930 S22: laws just for our family laws and inheritance and businesses. 762 00:41:26,930 --> 00:41:30,370 S22: And that's the start. And then from there, they can 763 00:41:30,370 --> 00:41:34,290 S22: pretty much embed some of those into the local laws, 764 00:41:34,330 --> 00:41:36,969 S22: and they need just a precedence in order for them 765 00:41:36,969 --> 00:41:39,770 S22: to be successful. And I'm afraid to say that they 766 00:41:39,810 --> 00:41:42,609 S22: are already headed in that direction. In the past it 767 00:41:42,610 --> 00:41:45,169 S22: would have been a little bit impossible, but lately they 768 00:41:45,170 --> 00:41:47,969 S22: have everyone on their side. You have the media on 769 00:41:47,969 --> 00:41:50,250 S22: their side, you have politicians on their side, they got 770 00:41:50,250 --> 00:41:53,610 S22: the backing, the money, and you have very well organized 771 00:41:53,610 --> 00:41:56,810 S22: groups like the Muslim Brotherhood who know what they're doing. 772 00:41:56,969 --> 00:42:00,130 S22: And unfortunately, as a result of this, we will begin 773 00:42:00,130 --> 00:42:01,890 S22: to see things like this happening. 774 00:42:02,090 --> 00:42:05,009 S1: Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. This is going 775 00:42:05,050 --> 00:42:07,850 S1: far too quickly. Let me let me ask this question. 776 00:42:07,850 --> 00:42:09,529 S1: And then next time we get together, we're going to 777 00:42:09,570 --> 00:42:12,410 S1: allocate much more time to this. So how does somebody 778 00:42:12,410 --> 00:42:15,489 S1: who is a Wahhabi Muslim and Wahhabism is another iteration 779 00:42:15,489 --> 00:42:18,969 S1: of Islam from Saudi Arabia come to know, love and 780 00:42:18,969 --> 00:42:20,779 S1: serve a Jewish messiah. 781 00:42:22,940 --> 00:42:26,020 S22: Because of the love of that Messiah for me, when 782 00:42:26,020 --> 00:42:29,820 S22: I knew the real Jesus, not the Jesus of the Quran. 783 00:42:30,140 --> 00:42:33,060 S22: The real Jesus and what he has done for me. 784 00:42:33,060 --> 00:42:36,420 S22: That he laid his life down for me. And I've 785 00:42:36,420 --> 00:42:42,660 S22: seen that love basically practiced by his followers. And then 786 00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:46,819 S22: I heard him telling me to love my enemies. I 787 00:42:46,820 --> 00:42:49,379 S22: heard him telling me to love my neighbor. I heard 788 00:42:49,380 --> 00:42:52,140 S22: him telling me to follow him and learn from him. 789 00:42:52,620 --> 00:42:56,860 S22: My heart changed overnight and today I can tell you 790 00:42:56,860 --> 00:42:59,700 S22: I will be willing to lay my life for my 791 00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:03,140 S22: Savior who laid his life not just for me, but 792 00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:05,540 S22: for my Muslim people that I pray every day for 793 00:43:05,540 --> 00:43:08,580 S22: them and for my family to know him and to 794 00:43:08,620 --> 00:43:11,660 S22: follow him and spend eternity with him. So what a 795 00:43:11,660 --> 00:43:13,380 S22: privilege to serve the Lord. 796 00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:16,540 S1: Amen. And that should be our prayer as well. It's 797 00:43:16,540 --> 00:43:19,430 S1: a big question, and I want people to understand that 798 00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:21,270 S1: so often there's a kind of tribalism, if I can 799 00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:25,109 S1: use that way. Um, if these were Scots, I'd say 800 00:43:25,110 --> 00:43:27,629 S1: their clans. So you've got you talked about Sunni and 801 00:43:27,630 --> 00:43:30,790 S1: Shia and Wahhabi, three different areas. But overall, if you 802 00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:34,509 S1: could look at this from heaven's perspective, is there movement 803 00:43:34,510 --> 00:43:38,110 S1: among Muslims to know Jesus? Because we're seeing we're hearing 804 00:43:38,110 --> 00:43:40,509 S1: so many stories about dreams and visions and people who 805 00:43:40,510 --> 00:43:43,270 S1: are coming to the Lord. Is is there an increased 806 00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:46,150 S1: receptivity than there has been, say, in the last half century? 807 00:43:47,550 --> 00:43:51,510 S22: Absolutely. And trust me, today, if many of the Muslim 808 00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:55,069 S22: countries will say you have freedom of religion, you will 809 00:43:55,070 --> 00:43:58,430 S22: be surprised how many of them will say, Hallelujah! I 810 00:43:58,469 --> 00:44:00,230 S22: am following Jesus immediately. 811 00:44:01,710 --> 00:44:04,549 S1: That is such a good news story. That conversation went 812 00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:07,030 S1: far too quickly. So let me direct again people to 813 00:44:07,310 --> 00:44:10,870 S1: Sarah international net. That's the website. If you're driving, you 814 00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:12,710 S1: can't write it down. I've got it on the information 815 00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:17,350 S1: page Sarah international. And then there's a YouTube page. And 816 00:44:17,350 --> 00:44:19,680 S1: I want you to go there because she does a 817 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,600 S1: fabulous job of explaining what Sierra is all about and 818 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,680 S1: what the work is that they do. And again, what 819 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,960 S1: makes it such an effective spokesperson right now is because 820 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,759 S1: he understands the theology, but he also understands the geopolitics 821 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,920 S1: and the theology behind Islam that becomes the motivation for 822 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,680 S1: political expressions, military expressions, and the place where we find 823 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,400 S1: ourselves right now in what's going on in Iran. So 824 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,640 S1: he understands the big picture, but he operates under the 825 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,239 S1: canopy of Jesus Christ. So check it out. Sierra International 826 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,840 S1: Net is the website. It's all there on my information page. 827 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,239 S1: Thank you, al, for a wonderful, wonderful conversation. And I'll 828 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,759 S1: tell you what, every time you join this program, you 829 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,879 S1: better come with a pencil and paper and it better 830 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:01,680 S1: say prayer list at the top because we're going to 831 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,000 S1: give you things to pray about continually. So pray. Let 832 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,480 S1: me borrow from C.S. Lewis. Aslan is on the move 833 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,920 S1: in the Islamic world. Be praying for real redemption for 834 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,680 S1: our Muslim friends, won't you? We'll see you next time, friends.