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S1: Welcome to In the Market with Janet partial. A very

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S6: The Loudoun County School Board held a training session on

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S8: It doesn't surprise me. They've been labeling me as an

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S9: Safety.

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00:22:36,790 --> 00:22:37,190
S1: Issue.

444
00:22:37,670 --> 00:22:38,270
S9: Paramount.

445
00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:40,550
S1: And you would have assumed the safety discussion would have

446
00:22:40,550 --> 00:22:42,510
S1: been about how do we protect students from something like

447
00:22:42,510 --> 00:22:46,070
S1: this happening again? And instead it characterizes and you talk

448
00:22:46,109 --> 00:22:51,030
S1: about viewpoint discrimination. It is dripping with discrimination that moms

449
00:22:51,030 --> 00:22:55,910
S1: and dads are obviously quintessentially domestic terrorists, to the point

450
00:22:55,910 --> 00:22:58,190
S1: where we have to train like there's an active shooter

451
00:22:58,190 --> 00:23:00,030
S1: in school, by the way, for the record. And Loudoun

452
00:23:00,030 --> 00:23:01,909
S1: County is just down the road, a piece from us.

453
00:23:01,910 --> 00:23:03,669
S1: I don't know of any parent that brought in a

454
00:23:03,670 --> 00:23:05,869
S1: gun to any school board meeting. So that's a that's

455
00:23:05,869 --> 00:23:08,350
S1: flowing gasoline on a fire. That hasn't happened by any

456
00:23:08,350 --> 00:23:11,150
S1: stretch of the imagination. Their equivalent of a gun is

457
00:23:11,150 --> 00:23:13,590
S1: when a dad whose daughter has been sexually assaulted at

458
00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:15,750
S1: the school stands up and says, what are you doing

459
00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:18,470
S1: about my daughter made national news. He had to get

460
00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:20,670
S1: hauled out of the meeting. By the way he is,

461
00:23:20,670 --> 00:23:21,550
S1: since all charges.

462
00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:23,030
S9: Against him dropped the school board.

463
00:23:23,070 --> 00:23:26,750
S1: Exactly. All charges were eventually dropped. So apparently his raising

464
00:23:26,750 --> 00:23:29,070
S1: his voice because his daughter had been sexually assaulted in

465
00:23:29,070 --> 00:23:31,470
S1: the school denied it, not only didn't deal with it,

466
00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:34,669
S1: denied it, and that's the equivalent of bringing a gun.

467
00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:36,950
S1: I mean, how utterly ludicrous.

468
00:23:36,990 --> 00:23:42,990
S9: Yeah. Disruptors. Um. Agitators. So, in other words, rather than

469
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:45,750
S9: the spirit and the letter of the law in the

470
00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:49,030
S9: state of Virginia about the public is to be welcomed

471
00:23:49,030 --> 00:23:54,350
S9: in and participating, uh, with the issues facing public education

472
00:23:54,350 --> 00:23:58,350
S9: in their school district. The presumption is we will we

473
00:23:58,350 --> 00:24:02,190
S9: will look at you, askant, as a parent and presume

474
00:24:02,230 --> 00:24:03,909
S9: not that you have a right to speak. And we

475
00:24:03,910 --> 00:24:05,750
S9: want to hear what you have to say, but that

476
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:09,110
S9: you may be a terrorist and treat you accordingly. And

477
00:24:09,109 --> 00:24:13,230
S9: that presumption tells me that there is a major problem

478
00:24:13,390 --> 00:24:16,629
S9: with the mindset of some of the school board members

479
00:24:16,630 --> 00:24:17,910
S9: and their philosophy.

480
00:24:17,950 --> 00:24:20,510
S1: What bothers me is I don't know what outside entity

481
00:24:20,510 --> 00:24:22,910
S1: came and did the training for the school board. There

482
00:24:22,910 --> 00:24:25,350
S1: must be some progressive group out there that does that.

483
00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:27,150
S1: And if it showed up in Loudoun County, how many

484
00:24:27,150 --> 00:24:29,830
S1: other school board meetings all across America will they will

485
00:24:29,869 --> 00:24:32,510
S1: they be showing up next behind closed door meetings? So

486
00:24:32,550 --> 00:24:34,909
S1: Mom and Dad fight for your families. You better be

487
00:24:34,910 --> 00:24:36,830
S1: on the lookout. Look at when they're having meetings. Look

488
00:24:36,830 --> 00:24:38,910
S1: at what the agenda is going to be and show up.

489
00:24:38,910 --> 00:24:42,870
S1: Always remember you represent a king first lesson always. But

490
00:24:42,869 --> 00:24:44,750
S1: to be called a terrorist, don't let that be the

491
00:24:44,750 --> 00:25:10,630
S1: heckler's veto that keeps you out back after this. How

492
00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:12,550
S1: do you keep your finger on the pulse of America

493
00:25:12,550 --> 00:25:14,990
S1: while listening to the heartbeat of God's Word? On in

494
00:25:15,030 --> 00:25:17,910
S1: the market, we look for God's perspective on current events,

495
00:25:17,910 --> 00:25:20,470
S1: become a partial partner today, and keep this Christ centered

496
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:23,389
S1: program on the air. As a benefit, you'll receive exclusive

497
00:25:23,390 --> 00:25:26,350
S1: resources every week prepared just for you. You'll get behind

498
00:25:26,350 --> 00:25:30,150
S1: the scenes Intel from my email to yours, call 877

499
00:25:30,510 --> 00:25:33,950
S1: 58 or go online to in the market with Janet Parshall.

500
00:25:36,869 --> 00:25:40,110
S1: I made the statement earlier in this conversation, particularly about

501
00:25:40,109 --> 00:25:43,230
S1: this very disturbing story in Loudoun County. Again, that's a

502
00:25:43,230 --> 00:25:46,550
S1: suburb of Washington, D.C., but what's happening here is really

503
00:25:46,550 --> 00:25:48,790
S1: representative of what's happening in a lot of school boards

504
00:25:48,790 --> 00:25:51,430
S1: all across the country. And so if it can happen here,

505
00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:54,430
S1: it can happen anywhere. And it's absolutely stunning that we

506
00:25:54,430 --> 00:25:58,310
S1: literally have elected officials by the people, the people whose

507
00:25:58,310 --> 00:26:00,230
S1: kids go to the schools on the school board in

508
00:26:00,230 --> 00:26:03,550
S1: which they sit, are really categorizing parents now who show

509
00:26:03,550 --> 00:26:05,550
S1: up at a school board meeting as domestic terrorists, and

510
00:26:05,550 --> 00:26:08,270
S1: they're going through war games to know how to handle

511
00:26:08,270 --> 00:26:11,389
S1: those who bad, terrible, dangerous parents when they show up.

512
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:13,709
S1: But I preceded it by saying that pray for our

513
00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:15,830
S1: teachers that are in the public schools, because it really

514
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:17,310
S1: is a mission field. I want you to hear this

515
00:26:17,310 --> 00:26:19,870
S1: from a suburb of Washington, D.C., all the way over

516
00:26:19,869 --> 00:26:23,630
S1: to Washington state. This is a parent, but he's also

517
00:26:23,630 --> 00:26:27,230
S1: a teacher who is calling out the teachers union in

518
00:26:27,230 --> 00:26:31,790
S1: Washington state for opposing parental rights. Now, remember, this is

519
00:26:31,910 --> 00:26:34,389
S1: a person who's working in this state, working in a

520
00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:39,110
S1: district that probably opposes his particular worldview, but nonetheless, he's

521
00:26:39,109 --> 00:26:42,830
S1: leading with common sense and an understanding of who's primary

522
00:26:42,830 --> 00:26:44,270
S1: in a child's life. Have a listen.

523
00:26:44,590 --> 00:26:48,669
S10: I am not the only teacher that knows that men

524
00:26:48,670 --> 00:26:53,790
S10: and women are different. I'm not the only teacher that

525
00:26:53,790 --> 00:26:58,630
S10: knows that parents know what's best for their children. And

526
00:26:58,630 --> 00:27:01,670
S10: I'm not the only teacher that knows that parents love

527
00:27:01,670 --> 00:27:03,550
S10: their kids far more than I ever could.

528
00:27:05,390 --> 00:27:08,230
S1: Blessings. I mean, he doesn't say the children belong to

529
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:10,030
S1: the States or it takes a village. All that other

530
00:27:10,030 --> 00:27:12,710
S1: stuff we've heard for so many years that is really supercilious,

531
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:15,429
S1: vacuous and in error. But this is a man who

532
00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:19,190
S1: understands that the primary caregivers, in fact, the two people

533
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:21,350
S1: that have the imprint on a child's life for their

534
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:23,750
S1: entire life, more than any other people, are the mom

535
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:25,470
S1: and the dad, period. That's the way it is in

536
00:27:25,470 --> 00:27:28,070
S1: Washington state. They're one of those states that wants to

537
00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:31,590
S1: continue to put forward these secrecy policies where Johnny leaves

538
00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:33,590
S1: home and goes to school and says, I don't think

539
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:36,109
S1: I'm Johnny, I think I'm Suzy. And the school goes, gotcha!

540
00:27:36,150 --> 00:27:38,229
S1: And sends him to the wardrobe so they can stay,

541
00:27:38,350 --> 00:27:40,590
S1: change their clothes, say, what pronoun would you like us

542
00:27:40,590 --> 00:27:42,590
S1: to use? What name would you like us to call you?

543
00:27:42,790 --> 00:27:44,869
S1: And you can use whatever bathroom or locker room you

544
00:27:44,869 --> 00:27:48,790
S1: want to. And we will never tell your parents. Sorry.

545
00:27:49,070 --> 00:27:51,150
S1: Teachers are never, ever called to be a wedge between

546
00:27:51,150 --> 00:27:53,310
S1: a parent and a child. They work in cooperation with

547
00:27:53,310 --> 00:27:56,230
S1: one another, so it's anathema when something like that happens.

548
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:58,830
S1: So God bless that teacher in Washington state and may

549
00:27:58,830 --> 00:28:01,910
S1: his tribe increase. Let me turn our attention to Saint Paul.

550
00:28:01,910 --> 00:28:05,550
S1: That incident in that church happened on January 18th, which

551
00:28:05,550 --> 00:28:09,790
S1: was absolutely stunning. Don Lemon, uh, actively involved, trying to

552
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:12,709
S1: hide himself under the shield of being a journalist. By

553
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:14,590
S1: the way, let the record reflect, Your Honor, that there

554
00:28:14,590 --> 00:28:17,390
S1: are no carve outs for somebody who calls themselves a

555
00:28:17,390 --> 00:28:21,790
S1: journalist when they're embedded in an act of civil disobedience. Uh,

556
00:28:21,790 --> 00:28:23,670
S1: all you have to do is special. Everybody. Now, that's

557
00:28:23,670 --> 00:28:25,390
S1: got a camera, right? In fact, if you look at

558
00:28:25,390 --> 00:28:27,750
S1: the protests that are taking place all across the country,

559
00:28:27,790 --> 00:28:29,310
S1: how many of them are using their cell phone? It

560
00:28:29,310 --> 00:28:31,590
S1: gets posted up on a social media platform, or they're

561
00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:33,750
S1: even hiring their own camera people, and all you have

562
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:36,070
S1: to do is a ruse to say, I'm press. Therefore

563
00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:37,989
S1: I'm above the law. Well, you're not. It's why the

564
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:41,510
S1: DOJ has now charged, I think, nine at the last count,

565
00:28:41,670 --> 00:28:45,670
S1: people who were involved in that case in January at

566
00:28:45,670 --> 00:28:49,430
S1: the city's Church of Saint Paul, Minnesota. Nothing like an eyewitness.

567
00:28:49,470 --> 00:28:51,870
S1: Let's circumnavigate all the news outlets. How about just talking

568
00:28:51,870 --> 00:28:53,350
S1: to a person who was there? A fellow by the

569
00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:57,190
S1: name of Caleb Phillips, 21 years old, loves city's church,

570
00:28:57,310 --> 00:28:58,910
S1: and he was an eyewitness to all of this. I

571
00:28:58,910 --> 00:29:01,510
S1: want you to hear what he saw that day. Have

572
00:29:01,510 --> 00:29:02,070
S1: a listen.

573
00:29:02,350 --> 00:29:05,870
S11: We're walking away. And this one protester who had a megaphone,

574
00:29:05,870 --> 00:29:10,430
S11: she starts yelling at my my girlfriend and insulting her

575
00:29:10,430 --> 00:29:13,030
S11: on on the basis of her race. She says, you know,

576
00:29:13,070 --> 00:29:15,790
S11: you're Asian. Why are you hanging out with Nazis? Sort

577
00:29:15,790 --> 00:29:18,630
S11: of sort of stuff, you know, just basically calling her

578
00:29:18,670 --> 00:29:21,230
S11: a race traitor in a way. Um, and saying that,

579
00:29:21,270 --> 00:29:23,470
S11: you know, they're going to come for her next and everything,

580
00:29:24,590 --> 00:29:30,870
S11: and I. I will admit, I felt a lot of

581
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:35,350
S11: anger in that moment, just with the fact that we

582
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:39,270
S11: had tried to put a blessing on them, and at

583
00:29:39,270 --> 00:29:43,469
S11: least one of them still was spewing hatred towards us.

584
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:46,470
S11: And that was another moment where I kind of had

585
00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:49,710
S11: to pull, like pull myself back and remind myself, this

586
00:29:49,710 --> 00:29:52,870
S11: is a spiritual battle. What is happening right now. It's

587
00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:55,990
S11: not about that woman who is shouting those terrible things

588
00:29:56,430 --> 00:30:01,550
S11: at my wonderful, lovely girlfriend. It is about something deeper.

589
00:30:02,390 --> 00:30:05,110
S11: And so we didn't engage in that moment. Um, we

590
00:30:05,150 --> 00:30:07,590
S11: got back to to my car and we prayed together,

591
00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:10,590
S11: and we prayed over her and over all of the

592
00:30:10,590 --> 00:30:12,830
S11: protesters that we had just prayed with and talked to

593
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:16,750
S11: city's church. Kind of struck me very immediately as just

594
00:30:16,750 --> 00:30:18,710
S11: the perfect church for me, just what I had been

595
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:22,390
S11: looking for, um, for a number of reasons. Um, I

596
00:30:22,390 --> 00:30:24,790
S11: think it's a beautiful church. I mean, the building, the

597
00:30:24,790 --> 00:30:28,270
S11: architecture is just wonderful. It's over 100 years old, but

598
00:30:28,270 --> 00:30:31,150
S11: also just the theology and the leadership. The teaching there

599
00:30:31,150 --> 00:30:34,990
S11: is just incredible on point. Exactly what what I'm looking for,

600
00:30:34,990 --> 00:30:37,950
S11: biblically based, all of the things that that I've been

601
00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:41,070
S11: searching for in a church. I think the immediate reaction

602
00:30:41,070 --> 00:30:45,990
S11: from a lot of the congregants was anger, understandably. Um,

603
00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:48,710
S11: or confusion. I think a lot of us were shocked.

604
00:30:49,150 --> 00:30:52,190
S11: Me personally, I was shocked. There was kind of a

605
00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:55,950
S11: secondary reaction, which a lot of people, um, noticed that, oh,

606
00:30:55,990 --> 00:31:00,310
S11: there are actually children that are crying. Um, there were

607
00:31:00,310 --> 00:31:03,110
S11: several children that I noticed who started crying pretty much

608
00:31:03,150 --> 00:31:06,750
S11: immediately because, you know, it was just such a sudden

609
00:31:06,750 --> 00:31:09,030
S11: and just loud, you know, kind of like as if,

610
00:31:09,070 --> 00:31:11,229
S11: as if a firework had gone off and and a

611
00:31:11,230 --> 00:31:14,990
S11: child starts crying, not necessarily because they know what's happening,

612
00:31:15,230 --> 00:31:16,910
S11: but because it's just so startling.

613
00:31:18,550 --> 00:31:20,590
S1: Sounds an awful lot like a young Timothy, doesn't he?

614
00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:23,670
S1: 21 years old, some spiritual maturity there and his rightful

615
00:31:23,670 --> 00:31:27,350
S1: recognition that this is spiritual warfare and the maturity, the

616
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:30,030
S1: spiritual maturity to go into the car with his girlfriend

617
00:31:30,030 --> 00:31:33,270
S1: and start praying for the agitators, I think was absolutely marvelous,

618
00:31:33,270 --> 00:31:36,110
S1: but it hasn't stopped. That was January 18th. This is

619
00:31:36,110 --> 00:31:38,870
S1: an eyewitness. Yes, the charges have been filed against some.

620
00:31:38,870 --> 00:31:41,150
S1: But the church, even though Don lemon isn't in the

621
00:31:41,150 --> 00:31:43,470
S1: middle of the chaos that was happening. More on him

622
00:31:43,470 --> 00:31:46,070
S1: in a minute in an update with him. This is

623
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:48,950
S1: still harassment that they're experiencing at the church on an

624
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:51,550
S1: ongoing basis. Caleb had more to say. Have a listen.

625
00:31:51,710 --> 00:31:54,110
S11: Those of us who were younger, uh, a lot of

626
00:31:54,110 --> 00:31:59,950
S11: students at the church, um, younger men like myself, we

627
00:31:59,950 --> 00:32:04,510
S11: all a lot of us stood in the sanctuary, actually,

628
00:32:04,510 --> 00:32:08,430
S11: and had, um, a response of kind of engaging in

629
00:32:08,430 --> 00:32:11,990
S11: the spiritual battle that was going on. We realized, okay,

630
00:32:12,030 --> 00:32:15,230
S11: you know, this, this what's going on here? We're not

631
00:32:15,230 --> 00:32:17,870
S11: going to be able to remove these people. Uh, right now,

632
00:32:17,870 --> 00:32:20,950
S11: we're not going to be able to, uh, talk to them.

633
00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:22,870
S11: I think they made it very clear that they weren't

634
00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:27,070
S11: there for conversation. Um, and so we kind of engaged

635
00:32:27,070 --> 00:32:31,070
S11: in that spiritual battle, uh, people were either singing, uh,

636
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:36,230
S11: praying or reading scripture. Um, what I my reaction was,

637
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:39,390
S11: I stood up and I started reading from the Psalms

638
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:45,470
S11: because I feel that one of the primary weapons that

639
00:32:45,470 --> 00:32:49,510
S11: Christians have when engaging in the spiritual battle is Scripture.

640
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:53,070
S11: This past Sunday, the first Sunday after everything happened, it

641
00:32:53,070 --> 00:32:56,790
S11: was packed. Even though it was only one of two services,

642
00:32:57,470 --> 00:33:02,110
S11: there was also there were also protesters outside the building. Um,

643
00:33:03,030 --> 00:33:06,790
S11: we had a police presence there. So that was, you know, helpful. Uh,

644
00:33:06,790 --> 00:33:10,470
S11: several people mentioned that they felt very safe. Um, so

645
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:13,430
S11: that was really great to hear. But as we were

646
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:17,310
S11: coming out of church, um, from a wonderful, wonderful service

647
00:33:17,310 --> 00:33:21,030
S11: that that we had on on Sunday, there are these

648
00:33:21,030 --> 00:33:25,790
S11: protesters there. And it's kind of it was almost like getting, uh.

649
00:33:25,790 --> 00:33:28,030
S11: I think I mentioned this to my girlfriend, actually, on

650
00:33:28,030 --> 00:33:30,990
S11: her way home, but it was almost like getting out

651
00:33:30,990 --> 00:33:34,590
S11: of a hot tub into, like, an ice bath. Just

652
00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:39,190
S11: the the safety and the peace and the joy that

653
00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:41,870
S11: we were feeling in the church, in our worship of

654
00:33:41,870 --> 00:33:45,150
S11: Jesus Christ, going out and seeing people who are like

655
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:52,390
S11: spewing hatred towards us. And it made me feel sad

656
00:33:52,390 --> 00:33:52,990
S11: for them.

657
00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:56,790
S1: Caleb is a recent college grad and he was drawn

658
00:33:56,790 --> 00:33:59,510
S1: to city's church. Remember 21 years old. He was drawn

659
00:33:59,510 --> 00:34:03,390
S1: because of the biblically based theology. He didn't need bells

660
00:34:03,390 --> 00:34:06,910
S1: and whistles. He needed Jesus. He needed the word held

661
00:34:06,910 --> 00:34:09,509
S1: out and Jesus's name lifted up. And I think it's

662
00:34:09,550 --> 00:34:12,670
S1: absolutely precious, Craig, that despite the fact that it's not

663
00:34:12,670 --> 00:34:15,830
S1: making the news because Don lemon, the central character, is

664
00:34:15,830 --> 00:34:18,989
S1: not showing up in the two weeks hence. Uh, and

665
00:34:18,989 --> 00:34:21,669
S1: yet the harassment is still going on, that the attendance

666
00:34:21,710 --> 00:34:23,709
S1: is through the roof at this church, that these people

667
00:34:23,710 --> 00:34:26,150
S1: are not afraid. They recognize it for the spiritual warfare

668
00:34:26,150 --> 00:34:29,870
S1: that it was, and that they understand the distinctive outside

669
00:34:29,870 --> 00:34:32,390
S1: the church and the cold world, versus the warmth of

670
00:34:32,390 --> 00:34:34,910
S1: being within the family of God. Your thoughts on this?

671
00:34:35,070 --> 00:34:37,670
S9: Funny how that works. The book of acts as you

672
00:34:37,670 --> 00:34:41,230
S9: read it. Uh, what happened when the church came under, uh,

673
00:34:41,230 --> 00:34:48,630
S9: rather immediate harassment, intimidation, threats and then outright persecution, including

674
00:34:48,630 --> 00:34:51,310
S9: from a fellow by the name of Saul who got

675
00:34:51,310 --> 00:34:54,590
S9: a name change from God to Paul and became the

676
00:34:54,590 --> 00:34:57,469
S9: great apostle and the great evangelist that we know him

677
00:34:57,469 --> 00:35:01,430
S9: to be in Scripture. Um, what happened? The church multiplied

678
00:35:01,430 --> 00:35:05,230
S9: and became empowered because they realized that if you're doing

679
00:35:05,230 --> 00:35:07,710
S9: something good, the enemy is going to be doing something

680
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:11,110
S9: against you that's bad. And I'm not calling those protesters

681
00:35:11,110 --> 00:35:14,470
S9: the enemy. What they don't know is they're simply tools

682
00:35:14,469 --> 00:35:15,230
S9: of the enemy.

683
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:17,950
S1: Yeah, they've been caught. They're in the enemy's snare. But

684
00:35:17,950 --> 00:35:20,830
S1: I find it interesting, and I find it's interesting on

685
00:35:20,830 --> 00:35:23,189
S1: multiple levels, not the least of which is most of

686
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:27,470
S1: the media outlets that covered the initial entrance into the church,

687
00:35:27,469 --> 00:35:30,310
S1: the violation of their right to worship, and the Face act.

688
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:33,230
S1: In fact, the KKK act is also being applied in this,

689
00:35:33,230 --> 00:35:35,910
S1: which is interesting. Um, I don't know if it was

690
00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:38,830
S1: because it was Don who was the, um, you know,

691
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:41,430
S1: protagonist in the story, and he's been not there for

692
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:43,629
S1: the last couple of weeks, but that, in fact, these

693
00:35:43,630 --> 00:35:46,350
S1: protests have continued. Why do you think that's gone under

694
00:35:46,350 --> 00:35:48,589
S1: the road? Maybe it's been reported in the Saint Paul,

695
00:35:48,590 --> 00:35:51,550
S1: Minneapolis area, but nationally, we didn't know it.

696
00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:57,510
S9: Uh, well, uh, from an optics standpoint, it doesn't look good. Yeah,

697
00:35:57,710 --> 00:36:02,029
S9: it's it's really it makes bad press. Um, and if

698
00:36:02,030 --> 00:36:05,750
S9: a newspaper or a media group, uh, sympathizes with the

699
00:36:05,790 --> 00:36:09,950
S9: anti ice protesters, uh, they're going to make a judgment

700
00:36:09,950 --> 00:36:15,270
S9: call editorially up in the editors, uh, office to say, look,

701
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:17,870
S9: if we keep covering this, this is not a good look.

702
00:36:18,110 --> 00:36:20,750
S9: This is not going to push the the issue forward,

703
00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:23,870
S9: which is interesting because journalism is supposed to be about

704
00:36:23,870 --> 00:36:28,390
S9: covering the news with integrity, not with putting forth a

705
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:34,030
S9: political agenda. One reason why this idea of Don lemon

706
00:36:34,030 --> 00:36:36,750
S9: being a journalist at the time and place of that

707
00:36:36,750 --> 00:36:40,670
S9: event conflicts with all the rules of ethics of every

708
00:36:40,670 --> 00:36:41,270
S9: media group.

709
00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:43,549
S1: I know we've got more to talk about this. In

710
00:36:43,550 --> 00:36:46,350
S1: an update on the situation with Don lemon right after this.

711
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:21,630
S1: So this assault on this church in Saint Paul. Minneapolis

712
00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:23,950
S1: City Church is an important story, by the way, particularly

713
00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:26,950
S1: for us as followers of Jesus Christ. The First Amendment

714
00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:30,830
S1: gives us the ability to freely assemble and freely worship.

715
00:37:30,830 --> 00:37:32,950
S1: And you can't just go goose stepping into a church

716
00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:37,750
S1: service and disrupt it because you hold a particular political perspective. Now, remember, allegedly,

717
00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:40,029
S1: the catalyst for all of this is that someone who

718
00:37:40,030 --> 00:37:42,669
S1: attends that church happens to be working for Ice. That

719
00:37:42,670 --> 00:37:44,750
S1: person is free to work for whomever he wants to,

720
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:47,469
S1: by the way. And outside protesters think they're going to

721
00:37:47,469 --> 00:37:50,669
S1: pressure him to quit, disavow his association with Ice. Who knows?

722
00:37:50,670 --> 00:37:52,669
S1: Fill in the blank. But the point is, they're still

723
00:37:52,670 --> 00:37:55,870
S1: harassing this church. Catherine Herridge is one of the best

724
00:37:55,870 --> 00:37:58,350
S1: in the business. She has worked for Fox, she's worked

725
00:37:58,350 --> 00:38:01,070
S1: for CBS, and now she has her own outlet and

726
00:38:01,110 --> 00:38:05,669
S1: her reporting is impeccable. She is absolutely like a dog

727
00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:08,149
S1: and a bone when it comes to objective facts. In fact, Craig,

728
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:09,710
S1: to this day, I don't think I've ever heard Catherine

729
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:12,670
S1: utter an opinion. It's always fact, fact, fact, fact.

730
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:15,350
S9: Yeah, and she tells you if she can, unless they're

731
00:38:15,350 --> 00:38:18,469
S9: anonymous sources or protected sources. She tells you what the

732
00:38:18,590 --> 00:38:20,150
S9: information is, where it came from.

733
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:22,150
S1: And by the way, to that point, she lost a

734
00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:24,070
S1: job because she wouldn't give away some of her sources,

735
00:38:24,110 --> 00:38:24,830
S1: and that is that.

736
00:38:24,830 --> 00:38:26,430
S9: She had made a pledge of confidentiality.

737
00:38:26,469 --> 00:38:29,990
S1: 100%. So she sat down with Harmeet Dhillon. Harmeet Dhillon

738
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:32,910
S1: is a very important person in the Department of Justice.

739
00:38:32,910 --> 00:38:35,989
S1: She happens to head the Justice Department's civil rights division,

740
00:38:36,270 --> 00:38:39,430
S1: and she's all over this issue with the church. And

741
00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:42,110
S1: she sat down recently. And this issue of whether or

742
00:38:42,110 --> 00:38:45,350
S1: not you're calling yourself a journalist absolutely is a shield

743
00:38:45,350 --> 00:38:47,830
S1: provided to you through the law. Here's part of how

744
00:38:47,830 --> 00:38:48,990
S1: that conversation went.

745
00:38:49,310 --> 00:38:51,470
S12: The mic and the camera are not a license to

746
00:38:51,469 --> 00:38:54,550
S12: break the law. And so I think it's also important

747
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:57,669
S12: for your viewers to know that several of the people

748
00:38:57,670 --> 00:39:00,910
S12: we've arrested so far claim to be journalists. One of

749
00:39:00,910 --> 00:39:06,350
S12: them is William Kelly, who was the white bearded, angry

750
00:39:06,350 --> 00:39:09,830
S12: man shouting about the devil and shouting in the faces

751
00:39:09,830 --> 00:39:14,950
S12: of women and children during this event. Another is George Fort,

752
00:39:15,230 --> 00:39:18,990
S12: who was one of the last people to be arrested. Um,

753
00:39:19,230 --> 00:39:21,670
S12: so there's several of them who claim to be journalists.

754
00:39:21,670 --> 00:39:23,029
S12: And so the question is, so.

755
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:26,750
S3: You're saying that in this particular case, in this particular case,

756
00:39:26,830 --> 00:39:31,030
S3: you're alleging that the the defendants are claiming to be

757
00:39:31,230 --> 00:39:33,390
S3: independent journalists as a shield?

758
00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:36,110
S12: Absolutely. Several of them are claiming to be journalists. I

759
00:39:36,110 --> 00:39:39,469
S12: don't know that anybody would pay for their content. I

760
00:39:39,469 --> 00:39:41,509
S12: don't really care. I mean, and by the way, we're

761
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:43,190
S12: not I don't even want to get into the debate

762
00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:45,550
S12: who's a journalist? It's not my job to decide that.

763
00:39:45,870 --> 00:39:49,109
S12: That is a very philosophical question. And I love the

764
00:39:49,110 --> 00:39:52,430
S12: democratisation of the information age today, and I get a

765
00:39:52,430 --> 00:39:54,230
S12: lot of my content from X and from people who

766
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:57,270
S12: are not really professional journalists. They didn't go to J-school.

767
00:39:57,630 --> 00:40:00,830
S12: But Don lemon calls himself a professional journalist. He worked

768
00:40:00,830 --> 00:40:04,989
S12: at CNN. Um, and so I would think that, you know,

769
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:07,910
S12: certainly many people consider him to be that's not relevant

770
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:10,590
S12: at all to our analysis, whether you're a journalist or not,

771
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:14,190
S12: you can't break into a church, you can't make children cry.

772
00:40:14,350 --> 00:40:17,190
S12: You can't prevent parents from getting to their children in

773
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:19,790
S12: Sunday school to rescue them. You can't make elderly women

774
00:40:19,790 --> 00:40:21,709
S12: run out a side door that actually had a cone

775
00:40:21,710 --> 00:40:24,109
S12: in front of it, because it was dangerous to go

776
00:40:24,110 --> 00:40:27,069
S12: in and out that door, slip and injure themselves, and

777
00:40:27,070 --> 00:40:29,509
S12: have to go to the emergency room. That's all illegal

778
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:30,509
S12: in our country.

779
00:40:32,030 --> 00:40:33,670
S1: So, Craig, I have another clip I want to play.

780
00:40:33,670 --> 00:40:36,270
S1: But before I do, I think what I love about

781
00:40:36,270 --> 00:40:38,910
S1: this is that it's just objective fact, okay? It's not

782
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:43,710
S1: the the fury and flame of political incitement. It's just

783
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:46,230
S1: what does the law have to say? And so here

784
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:48,150
S1: she is as the head of the civil Rights division,

785
00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:50,589
S1: saying it doesn't give you a license to disrupt a

786
00:40:50,590 --> 00:40:54,350
S1: church service, and particularly because, honestly, I think we'd be

787
00:40:54,350 --> 00:40:57,430
S1: hard pressed to define like like we're struggling with the

788
00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:59,350
S1: definition of a woman. I'm not sure we know how

789
00:40:59,350 --> 00:41:02,270
S1: to define a journalist anymore. So if you graduate from

790
00:41:02,270 --> 00:41:05,629
S1: Northwestern University and McGill, then maybe you're a journalist. But

791
00:41:05,630 --> 00:41:08,149
S1: now everybody who's got a camera and a microphone and

792
00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:10,790
S1: sits in front of a circle with a light calls

793
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:14,310
S1: himself a journalist, when really it's massive. And I'm. I'm

794
00:41:14,310 --> 00:41:16,870
S1: fine with that. It's the, you know, it's the I

795
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:18,509
S1: have an all comers policy. I'll meet you in the

796
00:41:18,510 --> 00:41:21,350
S1: marketplace of ideas, because I happen to believe that a

797
00:41:21,350 --> 00:41:24,109
S1: biblical worldview is the one that will last, transcends, and

798
00:41:24,110 --> 00:41:27,390
S1: sets people free. But what is really a journalist now,

799
00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:30,150
S1: Don lemon, by the way, even in his tenure at CNN,

800
00:41:30,430 --> 00:41:34,189
S1: had such a palpable worldview that his questioning of any

801
00:41:34,190 --> 00:41:38,350
S1: guest who held an antithetical worldview was aggressive, and he

802
00:41:38,350 --> 00:41:42,750
S1: was trying to be combative. He wasn't about soliciting facts

803
00:41:42,750 --> 00:41:44,590
S1: so you could find out the truth in a story.

804
00:41:44,830 --> 00:41:48,070
S9: Well, one way to determine whether somebody's a journalist, number one,

805
00:41:48,070 --> 00:41:51,390
S9: look at their conduct and their conduct speaks for itself.

806
00:41:51,390 --> 00:41:55,950
S9: And that clip certainly gave your listeners an idea of

807
00:41:55,950 --> 00:41:59,830
S9: how journalistic the conduct was. But then there's another way

808
00:41:59,830 --> 00:42:02,950
S9: to define that also corroborates why they were not journalists.

809
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:06,149
S9: And that is the standards of journalism. Who journalists are

810
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:08,910
S9: today may have changed in terms of the digital age,

811
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:13,110
S9: having sued and been involved in lawsuits with large newspapers

812
00:42:13,110 --> 00:42:15,469
S9: and media groups. I have to tell you, every one

813
00:42:15,469 --> 00:42:18,910
S9: of them has their own code of ethics. Most of

814
00:42:18,910 --> 00:42:21,910
S9: them read pretty much the same. Most of them follow

815
00:42:21,950 --> 00:42:27,950
S9: the the Society of Professional Journalism's Code of Ethics, the

816
00:42:27,950 --> 00:42:30,910
S9: Journalism handbook, or Code of Ethics. And they all say

817
00:42:30,910 --> 00:42:34,310
S9: the same thing. Number one, you cannot put yourself in

818
00:42:34,310 --> 00:42:36,549
S9: the story, and particularly if you have a conflict of

819
00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:39,029
S9: interest and you can't be a PR agent, you have

820
00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:39,990
S9: to report the news.

821
00:42:40,270 --> 00:42:44,070
S1: So let me give you an update on Donald Don lemon.

822
00:42:44,070 --> 00:42:45,990
S1: And here it is. Have a listen to this story.

823
00:42:46,469 --> 00:42:49,630
S13: A new federal arrest is drawing attention to what prosecutors

824
00:42:49,630 --> 00:42:53,069
S13: say was Don Lemon's role in planning and recording the

825
00:42:53,070 --> 00:42:58,430
S13: disturbing protest of demonstrators storming that Minnesota church service. A

826
00:42:58,430 --> 00:43:03,109
S13: Temple University student has now surrendered on federal charges, admitting

827
00:43:03,469 --> 00:43:07,430
S13: he helped Don lemon with logistics and local contacts ahead

828
00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:11,830
S13: of that anti ice protest. Jerome Richardson, a political science senior,

829
00:43:11,870 --> 00:43:14,710
S13: turned himself in and is accused of conspiring to interfere

830
00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:18,189
S13: with religious worship. Court records and social media posts show

831
00:43:18,190 --> 00:43:22,069
S13: Richardson describing himself as assisting Don lemon in the days

832
00:43:22,070 --> 00:43:24,670
S13: leading up to the protest. Lemon, who claims he was

833
00:43:24,670 --> 00:43:27,549
S13: just reporting, was arrested last week and released. But prosecutors

834
00:43:27,550 --> 00:43:30,630
S13: say this new arrest undercuts that defense, suggesting planning and

835
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:32,270
S13: not just passive coverage.

836
00:43:32,910 --> 00:43:34,430
S1: Oops. Your thoughts, Craig?

837
00:43:34,469 --> 00:43:38,910
S9: Yeah. Um, New York Times code of ethics has a

838
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:42,149
S9: provision that a lot of them also have. And that is,

839
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:48,110
S9: you are prohibited from performing public relations activities in any event,

840
00:43:48,590 --> 00:43:51,790
S9: in any way for an organization where you're going to

841
00:43:51,790 --> 00:43:55,830
S9: cover that organization in a news event. And he breaks

842
00:43:55,830 --> 00:43:59,070
S9: all of these rules if he's pretending to be a journalist. So,

843
00:43:59,110 --> 00:44:02,950
S9: number one, the nature rageous nature of his conduct. But

844
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:05,150
S9: number two, the fact that he was breaking all of

845
00:44:05,150 --> 00:44:10,110
S9: these rules of journalistic ethics is objective evidence that he

846
00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:12,990
S9: was there as an activist. He wasn't there as a journalist,

847
00:44:12,989 --> 00:44:15,710
S9: I believe in freedom of the press. So did the founders.

848
00:44:15,710 --> 00:44:18,629
S9: So does our Constitution. But this was not journalism. This

849
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:19,390
S9: was activism.

850
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:22,629
S1: Yeah. And again, he's been charged. He's been released. You know,

851
00:44:22,670 --> 00:44:26,150
S1: he was applauded at an awards ceremony shortly after the arrest.

852
00:44:26,270 --> 00:44:28,430
S1: That's all well and good. That's how the press is

853
00:44:28,430 --> 00:44:31,710
S1: spinning it. Here's the objective facts. He's still facing charges.

854
00:44:32,030 --> 00:44:34,710
S1: If this information gets borne out. And this in fact,

855
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:37,910
S1: this person from Temple University testifies to the fact that

856
00:44:38,270 --> 00:44:41,469
S1: Don lemon was involved in the pre-planning. That kind of

857
00:44:41,510 --> 00:44:44,030
S1: puts him there, and he's no longer reporting the story.

858
00:44:44,070 --> 00:44:46,830
S1: He is, as we say, a part of the story,

859
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:49,069
S1: which makes him guilty of the same disruption as the

860
00:44:49,070 --> 00:44:51,670
S1: other people that have been charged with as well. So this,

861
00:44:51,710 --> 00:44:53,750
S1: you know, the press goes fast and furious. We got

862
00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:56,589
S1: about a 15 second attention span when it comes to

863
00:44:56,590 --> 00:45:00,469
S1: the news. The wheels of justice turn slowly. So this

864
00:45:00,469 --> 00:45:03,790
S1: happened on the 18th of January. Here we are in February.

865
00:45:03,830 --> 00:45:05,350
S1: It's going to take a while for this to come

866
00:45:05,350 --> 00:45:07,109
S1: to fruition, but we're going to keep you posted every

867
00:45:07,110 --> 00:45:09,270
S1: step of the way. Have a great weekend, friends. Thanks

868
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:11,750
S1: for joining us on In the Market with Janet Parshall.