WEBVTT - Hour 1: Applying Scripture to Life's Challenges

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<v S1>Tragic plane crashes, devastating fires, disastrous hurricanes. Where in the

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<v S1>world is God in all this? Stay with me and

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<v S1>we'll talk about that in just a moment. Hello, friends.

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<v S1>Welcome to Open Line with me. Michael Wright. This is

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<v S1>Moody Radio's Bible study across America. My name is Michael Wright.

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<v S1>I'm the academic dean and professor of Jewish studies and

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<v S1>Bible at Moody Bible Institute. And I am so grateful

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<v S1>that you're joining me around the radio kitchen table. And

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<v S1>we're talking about your questions about the Bible, God, and

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<v S1>the spiritual life. Well, if you have a question and

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<v S1>you'd like to call the phone number here is (877) 548-3675.

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<v S1>Once again 5483675. Tricia McMillan is our producer. Omar Mendoza

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<v S1>is our tech guy. To hear is here as well. Uh.

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<v S1>Anyone else? Am I missing anyone? Uh, glad for everyone

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<v S1>here that's helping out. And, uh, time to get yourself

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<v S1>a cup of coffee. Uh, and, uh, we're going to

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<v S1>study the scriptures together. The phone number again. (877) 548-3675. Let's

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<v S1>talk about all these disasters. Virtually, virtually all of us

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<v S1>have been watching TV news reports about the tragic airline

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<v S1>disaster at Reagan National Airport. It was so heartbreaking. We

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<v S1>all wish we could somehow reach out to comfort all

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<v S1>those who grieve lost loved ones. And while many are

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<v S1>asking how in the world did this happen? Others are wondering,

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<v S1>how could God let this happen? So how do we

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<v S1>respond to this question? If God is good? Why are

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<v S1>there terrible disasters like plane crashes, devastating fires, as we've

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<v S1>seen in Southern California, or destructive hurricanes like a few

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<v S1>months ago in North Carolina? Why are there earthquakes, tornadoes,

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<v S1>floods that kill innumerable people and destroy communities? Simply put,

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<v S1>there is no no simple. There is no complete or

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<v S1>satisfactory answer completely for these questions. But I do think

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<v S1>that there are some biblical concepts that will help us.

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<v S1>And so I'd like to offer six quick biblical ideas

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<v S1>that we can remember when disaster strikes. First, it's an

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<v S1>absolute truth that God is sovereign in all these matters.

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<v S1>No disasters. Surprise! God. He wasn't shocked by any other event.

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<v S1>Evil or bad or good. Doesn't matter. He's never been

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<v S1>shocked by any event that we've experienced. God says in

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<v S1>Isaiah 45 seven, I form light and create darkness. I

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<v S1>make success and I create disaster. I, the Lord, do

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<v S1>all these things. Just as God is the sovereign creator,

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<v S1>so he is sovereign even over earthly disasters. Second, our

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<v S1>problem is that we don't know his purposes. It's a

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<v S1>terrible mistake to assert that God's purposes are even knowable.

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<v S1>That's why God declared through Isaiah, for my thoughts are

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<v S1>not your thoughts, neither are your ways, my ways, declares

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<v S1>the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth,

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<v S1>so are my ways higher than your ways, and my

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<v S1>thoughts higher than your thoughts. That's Isaiah 55, eight and nine.

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<v S1>We can't explain God's intentions, nor should we ever try.

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<v S1>We just know God is there and God is good. Third,

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<v S1>we need to remember that tragic events are not necessarily

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<v S1>related to the specific behavior of nations or individuals. Evil

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<v S1>things happen because we live in an evil and fallen world.

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<v S1>People get terminal diseases. Planes crash. Tidal waves overwhelm communities.

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<v S1>Paul wrote in Romans 822, we know that the whole

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<v S1>creation has been groaning, as in the pains of childbirth,

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<v S1>right up to the present time. For the Lord Jesus

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<v S1>taught that disasters, whether natural or man made, are a

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<v S1>reminder of God's mercy. In Luke 13 one through nine,

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<v S1>responding to the question of why God allowed different kinds

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<v S1>of evil, Jesus said that bad things happen to some

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<v S1>people not because they are more evil than others. Rather,

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<v S1>according to the Lord Jesus. If God were to act

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<v S1>based on all on our behavior, all our behavior, disaster

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<v S1>and devastation would be the norm, not the exception. We

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<v S1>all sin. And if God responded on based on what

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<v S1>we all deserve, we'd all be devastated. That's what Jeremiah

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<v S1>meant when he wrote, because of the Lord's great love

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<v S1>we are not consumed, for his compassions never fail. Lamentations 322.

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<v S1>It's only God's loving mercy that prevents him from destroying

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<v S1>all of us instantly. Fifth. God uses suffering to remind

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<v S1>us to turn to him when we see disasters strike others.

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<v S1>Jesus said that this was a reminder for all of

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<v S1>us to turn to God before we perished as well.

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<v S1>That's found in Luke 13 three through five. That's the

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<v S1>very reason the psalmist wrote, I turned to the Lord

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<v S1>in my distress, and he answers me. Psalm 120, verse one. C.S.

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<v S1>Lewis wrote, God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks

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<v S1>to us in our conscience, but shouts in our pains.

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<v S1>It's his megaphone to rouse a deaf world. God uses

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<v S1>our pain and our sorrow to get our attention and

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<v S1>remind us to turn to him for comfort. Sixth, God

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<v S1>uses tragic events to remind us that we're not home yet.

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<v S1>It's so easy to get overly comfortable here on earth

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<v S1>never to want to leave. As if this was the

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<v S1>best God has for us. But there is an eternity

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<v S1>of suffering on this. Suffering on this earth reminds us

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<v S1>that God intends a far better home for us in

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<v S1>the future. These present sufferings are not worth comparing with

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<v S1>all the glory that will be revealed in us. Romans

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<v S1>818 says, disasters remind us not to allow ourselves to

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<v S1>become overly comfortable or satisfied with this world, but to

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<v S1>remember that we're citizens of a far better future world

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<v S1>where every tear will be wiped away and all pain

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<v S1>and sorrow will be removed. One last thought. Dorothy Sayers

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<v S1>said that when it comes to the problem of evil,

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<v S1>this must be said. God took his own medicine in

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<v S1>the Messiah, Jesus. God entered this world as a fully

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<v S1>human person and not only suffered with us, but he

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<v S1>suffered for us. That through his death and his resurrection,

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<v S1>we can have life forever. If you'd like to read that. Um,

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<v S1>when tragedy strikes. That's at my website. On my blog.

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<v S1>When tragedy strikes at michael-ray. Org or it's linked at

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<v S1>our Facebook page on Open Line. So if you'd like

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<v S1>to read that, go over it a little bit more slowly.

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<v S1>It's available to you right there. I think we're, uh,

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<v S1>I'm pretty sure that there Are a Naja. Welcome to

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<v S2>Uh, thank you for taking my call. Um, I've always

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<v S2>wondered this, and, um, I'm wondering what you think of

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<v S2>the concept of pre-existence. Of souls. Um, when we read

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<v S2>the book of Jeremiah, chapter one, verse five, the prophet says,

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<v S2>before I was even born, you knew me intimately. Um,

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<v S2>and so that to me entails that, you know, we

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<v S2>probably existed even before we were born. So what are

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<v S2>your thoughts on this? Do you believe that, um, we

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<v S2>were with God even before we were born? Or do

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<v S2>you believe that, um, you know, our souls, you know,

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<v S2>emerge when we are physically born? Um, and I ask

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<v S2>this because there are so many people now. I mean,

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<v S2>if you look online, Um, there's a concept called pre-birth memories.

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<v S2>There are a lot of people that I know, and

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<v S2>some are Christians who say that they remember, um, instances

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<v S2>of even before they were born. They have memories of

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<v S2>times before they were born. So, um, what are your

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<v S2>thoughts on that?

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<v S1>Well, I don't think Jeremiah one five is is actually

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<v S1>talking about being in existence before conception. It says, I

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<v S1>chose you before I formed you in the womb. So

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<v S1>that's that God chose him, not that he existed, but

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<v S1>God made the choice because God knows he's omniscient. He

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<v S1>knew exactly who would be formed in the womb. I

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<v S1>set you apart before you were born. That could have

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<v S1>been very well, not just in election, but also in

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<v S1>the womb. Uh, saying that God knew someone. I mean,

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<v S1>that's foreknowledge, uh, God knows and determines what will happen

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<v S1>before it ever happens. So saying that God, I mean,

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<v S1>that's mentioned in Ephesians one, that we were foreknown by God. Uh,

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<v S1>and so to say that Elijah was foreknown doesn't indicate

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<v S1>pre-existence of his soul. That's, that's just reading way too

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<v S1>much into it and too little into God's nature, which

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<v S1>is omniscient. And so even before we exist, he knows us. Uh,

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<v S1>and so that's all I think that is saying. As

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<v S1>for people who think that they remember things, they're usually

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<v S1>talking about remembering not what existed before, uh, they were conceived,

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<v S1>but rather they they claim to have memory of what

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<v S1>was going on in the womb. Uh, I don't think

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<v S1>that that's really possible, but that's what people people are

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<v S1>very creative. and they think that they remember those things.

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<v S1>That's all I think it is. And I'm sorry to

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<v S1>disappoint you, but I don't I don't see anything in

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<v S1>Scripture that would indicate pre-existence of souls before being born. Now, frankly, uh,

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<v S1>you know, origin, I believe the church father believed in it.

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<v S1>There are people who have believed in it. I just

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<v S1>don't see anything in the Bible that's, uh. That actually

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<v S1>indicates that. So. But anyway, thanks. Thanks for your call

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<v S1>on Nadia. And, uh, we're going to take a break here, and.

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<v S1>Are we not in the window here? Yeah, we're going

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<v S1>to take a break. That's it. I'm looking at, uh,

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<v S1>looking at my friends here and wondering what in the

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<v S1>world is going on. We're going to take a break.

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<v S1>We're going to come right back. And, uh, when we

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<v S1>come back, uh, we'll take more of your questions. The

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<v S1>number 83675. Stay with us. This is open Line with

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<v S1>Michael Radonich. Welcome back to Open Line. So glad you're

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<v S1>with us today. My name is Michael Wright and I'm

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<v S1>grateful for every listener. Really glad that you're here with us.

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<v S1>If you'd like to call with a question, the number

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<v S1>is (877) 548-3675. We're talking about your questions about the Bible,

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<v S1>God and the spiritual life. And Paul in Schaumburg listening

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<v S1>on Wmbi. Schaumburg, Illinois has a question. Welcome to Open Line. Paul.

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<v S1>How can I help you?

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<v S3>Yes. I have a question about our book of Haggai,

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<v S3>chapter two 1 to 10. God spoke. And then I

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<v S3>just want to know if it has been ever been

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<v S3>fulfilled and if it is when and how. That'd be great.

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<v S3>Thank you.

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<v S1>Well, the issue that comes out is I will shake

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<v S1>the nation so that the treasures of all the nations

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<v S1>will come. Some people say, or the desire of the

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<v S1>nations will come, and I will fill this house with glory.

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<v S1>Verse seven. Uh, that's the question that people really struggle

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<v S1>with in the King James Version. It says the desire

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<v S1>of nations will come to this House. Uh, my version here, the,

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<v S1>the Holman CSB that I've been reading that says the,

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<v S1>the treasures of all the nations. And there's a lot of, uh,

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<v S1>discussion about this verse, just to be, uh, honest and

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<v S1>forthright about it. There's a lot of people who think, uh,

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<v S1>that it does not refer that it's referring to the

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<v S1>messianic kingdom, and that when the Messianic kingdom arrives, the

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<v S1>thousand year reign of Jesus, then the treasures of all

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<v S1>the nations will come to the temple that will be

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<v S1>built in the Millennial Kingdom, which will be the throne

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<v S1>room of the Messiah. So that's what some people think.

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<v S1>I actually believe that this refers to the desire of

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<v S1>the nations who will come, and that's referring to the Messiah,

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<v S1>and that he will come. And at that time God

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<v S1>will fill this house with glory. I think it's referring

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<v S1>to the coming of the Messiah. Now, I don't really

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<v S1>think it's talking about the first coming of the Messiah.

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<v S1>When he came, when the Second Temple was built. Although

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<v S1>we got a little foretaste of that when the Lord

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<v S1>Jesus went and worshiped in the Second Temple, Herod's temple.

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<v S1>The glory or the desire of the nations came. But

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<v S1>this is talking about the messianic Kingdom. The final glory

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<v S1>of this house will be greater than the first, and

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<v S1>it will be greatest, because the Messiah will be reigning

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<v S1>from there. So we got a little image, a little picture,

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<v S1>a little pattern of the future. But it will be

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<v S1>fulfilled when the desire of the nations, the Messiah, Jesus,

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<v S1>enters into that millennial temple. Okay, Paul.

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<v S3>All right. Well, thank you so much.

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<v S1>Yeah. Hey, Paul, let me ask you something. Uh, did

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<v S1>you look that up in the Moody Bible Commentary?

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<v S3>Um, no, it was something that, uh, was, um, you know, uh, the. So, um,

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<v S3>so I was wondering what, uh, had Lord had in

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<v S3>mind for me. So I was just, uh, whistling and,

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<v S3>you know, trying to do what he. Yeah.

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<v S1>Do you have a moody Bible commentary in which you

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<v S1>could have looked it up?

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<v S3>Um, no. No, I do not.

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<v S1>Okay, you hang on, Paul, because I think you'd really

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<v S1>benefit from a moody Bible commentary. And we're going to

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<v S1>send you one. So.

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<v S3>Oh, I appreciate I really appreciate it. Thank you so much.

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<v S1>Yeah, I especially like. The book of Haggai, because that

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<v S1>was one of the commentaries that, that I didn't. Edit

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<v S1>just I actually wrote it. So and I really, really wow. Yeah,

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<v S1>I love I love the. Book of Haggai. I love

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<v S1>to preach on the book of Haggai. I loved writing

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<v S1>that commentary. And so we'll send you not just Haggai.

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<v S1>We'll send you the whole moody Bible commentary. It was

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<v S1>written by the faculty of Moody Bible Institute. It's a

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<v S1>really it's a commentary you can trust. And if you're

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<v S1>listening and you think, man, I need a one volume. Commentary.

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<v S1>The best place to go to get one would be

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<v S1>to go to to Moody Publishers. Dot com. Or you

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<v S1>could possibly go to any online bookseller, and I'm sure

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<v S1>you'll be able to find a copy of it right there.

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<v S1>The Moody Bible Commentary. It's it's a really uh, or

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<v S1>you can go to your local Christian bookstore, if that will.

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<v S1>If they carry it, I'm sure they do. And that

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<v S1>would be a big help. You know, I was in

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<v S1>a major bookstore at Christmas time, a secular bookstore. And

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<v S1>it had this was kind of fun. It had, uh,

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<v S1>they had a bookshelf with the employees favorite books. And, uh,

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<v S1>the Moody Bible commentary was there for, as one of

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<v S1>the employees favorite books. I was so happy when I

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<v S1>saw that. And then I saw the employee. She used

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<v S1>to be in a Sunday school class I taught, and

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<v S1>so now I knew why it was there. So that

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<v S1>was kind of fun. But anyway, we'll send you one. Paul. Okay. Uh,

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<v S1>you hang on.

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<v S4>Thank you so much. And we'll.

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<v S1>Sure, we'll get your address and we'll send you one.

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<v S1>Thanks for listening, Paul, and thanks for your question. Uh,

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<v S1>we're going to talk to Jeff in Florida, listening on Wmhb.

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<v S1>Welcome to Open Line. Jeff, how can I help you today?

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<v S5>Yes. Uh, Psalms 102 18 to 22. It just looks

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<v S5>like it's like a prophecy of the people of that.

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<v S5>In the Old Testament time period, it was like a

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<v S5>to me. I just want to know, is this what

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<v S5>it is? It's like a foretelling of salvation to of course,

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<v S5>I know Christ had to complete the salvation back in

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<v S5>the Old Testament, but it just looks like it's declaring

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<v S5>that from 18 to 22, uh, it's, you know, and

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<v S5>I just want to ask that question because it looks

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<v S5>like it to me. It speaks that.

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<v S4>It says it says.

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<v S1>This will be written for a later generation, and a

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<v S1>newly created people will praise the Lord. He looked down

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<v S1>from his holy heights. The Lord gazed out from heaven

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<v S1>to hear a prisoners groaning, to set free those condemned

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<v S1>so they might declare the name of Yahweh in Zion,

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<v S1>and his praise in Jerusalem. When peoples and kingdoms are

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<v S1>assembled to serve the Lord. I think this is just

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<v S1>saying that there, uh, that the Lord will reach people

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<v S1>in the future. This will be written for a later generation.

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<v S1>It's not just now. It's talking about the future. So

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<v S1>in that sense, it's prophetic and that people in the kingdom,

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<v S1>when peoples and kingdoms are assembled to serve the Lord,

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<v S1>they will also declare the name of Yahweh in Zion. Zion.

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<v S1>It's it's basically saying from now and forever. That's that's

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<v S1>what it's saying.

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<v S4>Okay.

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<v S5>Amen. All right. That's what it was just such a

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<v S5>joy because I was I saw this thing where David

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<v S5>was said he was he was distraught and he said,

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<v S5>I go down. Please talk to me, because I'm just

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<v S5>going to feel like I'm going to go down in

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<v S5>the pit. And I then I just researched it through

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<v S5>YouVersion and I ended up here. So it was awesome.

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<v S5>It was just awesome. And I have two commentaries. I

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<v S5>should have looked at it.

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<v S4>Oh, good.

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<v S1>Always a good.

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<v S4>Idea.

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<v S1>That's great. Thanks for your call. I really appreciate it.

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<v S1>We're going to talk to Luneta in Cleveland, Ohio, listening

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<v S1>on Wtxf. Welcome to Open Line. How can I help you? Lunetta?

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<v S6>Yes. I just want to make sure that I'm correct,

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<v S6>because I am telling people that, um, we're paying, you know,

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<v S6>everyone is praying for peace in the Middle East and

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<v S6>all over America, but can we actually have peace without

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<v S6>having the Prince of Peace without being born again? And

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<v S6>if so, where is the Scripture found? Because I want

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<v S6>to make sure that I'm accurate.

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<v S1>Uh, well, I think the idea that God can grant peace,

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<v S1>I don't know, it sounds to me like you're confusing, uh,

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<v S1>national peace with personal peace. Uh, you know, in terms

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<v S1>of personal peace, obviously it's possible for someone to someone

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<v S1>to have peace. But for the most part, the idea

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<v S1>of personal peace starts with peace with God.

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<v S6>Okay.

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<v S1>And, uh, and when you, when you think of it that, uh,

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<v S1>we're at enmity with God when we don't know him, and, uh,

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<v S1>but God creates peace with him. And as a result,

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<v S1>we can have peace in our own lives and peace

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<v S1>with each other. I was thinking about, first of all, uh,

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<v S1>peace with others. Uh, in Ephesians two, uh, it talks

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<v S1>about that there was enmity between Jew and Gentile and

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<v S1>that God created peace first, not just by by kind

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<v S1>of bringing them together, but by bringing those who were

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<v S1>far from him and those who were nearer, but still

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<v S1>not with him, and reconciling them to the Lord through

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<v S1>the Lord Jesus death and Than resurrection. And through that he.

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<v S1>This is Ephesians two about, uh, about verse 14 through 16. Uh,

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<v S1>and he he brings peace. And as a result, uh,

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<v S1>he reconciles people because they have been first reconciled to God,

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<v S1>that he reconciles us to each other because we can

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<v S1>be reconciled to God. And that's where it starts. And

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<v S1>then also in Ephesians, in Philippians chapter four, where it

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<v S1>talks about the God of peace guiding us and the

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<v S1>peace of God that surpasses all understanding, controlling us. Uh,

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<v S1>that we can have that. Why? Because we know him

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<v S1>and we're praying and we're walking with him. And then

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<v S1>the God of peace gives us the peace that passes understanding.

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<v S1>So I think that, uh, now, I'm not saying it's

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<v S1>not possible that God could give peace to someone or

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<v S1>bring peace nationally. I mean, I mean, there have been

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<v S1>wars that have ended and that have led to a peace. Uh,

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<v S1>but that doesn't necessarily mean that people have personal peace

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<v S1>or peace with God. They've not been reconciled to God

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<v S1>until they come to know the Lord Jesus, that we

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<v S1>all you know, we're all at enmity with him. We're

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<v S1>far from each other. Uh, because we're far from God.

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<v S1>And as a result, what the Bible says is that

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<v S1>the Lord Jesus came and he was the great peacemaker. Uh,

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<v S1>in fact, in Ephesians two it says he is our peace.

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<v S1>He personifies peace. And so because we can have peace

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<v S1>with God through him, then we can have peace with

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<v S1>each other. And if anyone's listening and you think, man,

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<v S1>my life is is struggling and I, I really, really

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<v S1>need peace from God and I don't know the Lord Jesus.

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<v S1>This is where to start to put your trust in him,

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<v S1>that he died for us and us and rose again.

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<v S1>Believe that our sins will be forgiven. We'll have peace

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<v S1>with God. And and that is what we need, so

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<v S1>that it can lead to personal peace and reconciliation with others.

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<v S1>So anyway, thanks for the great reminder, I appreciate it.

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<v S1>We're going to come back with the mailbag in just

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<v S1>a moment. Tricia McMillan is going to bring it in,

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<v S1>and we'll talk about the questions you've sent in. Again,

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<v S1>this is open line with Michael. Stay with us. More

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<v S1>questions coming up straight ahead. Welcome back to Open Line.

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<v S1>I'm so glad to be with you this Saturday morning

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<v S1>talking about your questions about the Bible, God and the

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<v S1>spiritual life. And, uh, we are going to be, uh,

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<v S1>answering the questions you've sent in because it's time for

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<v S1>now is Tricia McMillan. Hey, Trish. Hello. Now, uh, you know,

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<v S1>I was just talking with William Washington. He's our big

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<v S1>kitchen table partner. Promoter William Washington is the VP of

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<v S1>student life.

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<v S7>Yes, at Moody Bible Institute. Yes, yes. Friend of the program?

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<v S1>Yeah, he's he's probably listening right now, but, uh, I

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<v S1>was I was laughing with him because, uh, he and

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<v S1>I are called partners in crime at Moody, which I

0:27:22.790 --> 0:27:24.870
<v S1>always think is funny even though we're not really doing

0:27:24.869 --> 0:27:29.350
<v S1>anything criminal. It's just that we we do things. I

0:27:29.390 --> 0:27:33.830
<v S1>work with the faculty and oversee the the educational part

0:27:33.869 --> 0:27:37.629
<v S1>of the undergraduate school, whereas he's working with the the

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<v S1>student life area. And we try and complement each other

0:27:43.310 --> 0:27:46.750
<v S1>rather than conflict with each other. And we are generally

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<v S1>on the same page. And I think that shows how

0:27:49.950 --> 0:27:55.949
<v S1>important partnership is. And he was and he said, we

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<v S1>were talking. He said, you ought to talk about that

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<v S1>and then tell people how important their partnership is to

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<v S1>become a kitchen table partner. And I said, okay, that's

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<v S1>what I'll do. So, you know, being a kitchen table

0:28:07.190 --> 0:28:10.350
<v S1>partner really does mean a lot to us. And we

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<v S1>it puts us all on the same page. We're so

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<v S1>grateful for everyone that has already decided. We've got over

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<v S1>800 kitchen table partners. That is just amazing. And William

0:28:19.350 --> 0:28:23.220
<v S1>told me, you know, we need 1000. So he's been

0:28:23.220 --> 0:28:26.500
<v S1>saying that for a number of years now. So but anyway.

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<v S1>But we're grateful for every single person who has decided

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<v S1>to become a kitchen table partner because we work together

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<v S1>as partners. And what you're doing is making it possible

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<v S1>for us to be on the air. And so if

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<v S1>you'd like to consider becoming a kitchen table partner, what

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<v S1>we do is we send you a Bible study moment,

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<v S1>a pre-recorded audio Bible study, just for a few minutes

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<v S1>every other week so that you can that's sort of

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<v S1>like a special benefit for those of you who are

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<v S1>kitchen table partners. Any other benefits? Tricia?

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<v S7>Um, there is also, if you give it the $30

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<v S7>a month level as an auto gift, which is like

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<v S7>where it just is an automatic deduction. Um, then you

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<v S7>get 50% off of all Moody Publishers catalog. So that

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<v S7>includes the Moody Bible Commentary. It includes Bibles. It includes

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<v S7>Bible studies, a lot of the resources that we talk

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<v S7>about on the air, but also a lot of the

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<v S7>other books, nonfiction and fiction and all of it.

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<v S1>Everything in the catalog. Yeah. It's great. So I'm kind

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<v S1>of trying to think of some other possibilities of what

0:29:29.850 --> 0:29:31.810
<v S1>we can do for our kitchen table partners. We'll be

0:29:31.810 --> 0:29:35.250
<v S1>talking about that in upcoming weeks. But for now, if

0:29:35.250 --> 0:29:37.410
<v S1>you'd like to become a kitchen table partner, we'd really

0:29:37.410 --> 0:29:43.410
<v S1>appreciate it. All you have to do is call (800) 864-4712

0:29:43.450 --> 0:29:47.170
<v S1>two or go to open Line radio.org. And we really

0:29:47.170 --> 0:29:49.330
<v S1>appreciate it. Well Trish do you have a lot of

0:29:49.330 --> 0:29:50.210
<v S1>questions for me.

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<v S7>I do but we're going to start I had several

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<v S7>come in from out of the Paul's letters to the Corinthians.

0:29:57.410 --> 0:30:00.210
<v S7>And so I'm kind of lumping them together even though

0:30:00.210 --> 0:30:02.930
<v S7>topically they might not be the same. They're all from

0:30:02.930 --> 0:30:04.410
<v S7>the letter, those two letters, the.

0:30:04.410 --> 0:30:05.130
<v S1>Corinthian letters.

0:30:05.130 --> 0:30:05.890
<v S7>From the Corinthians.

0:30:05.890 --> 0:30:07.650
<v S1>I read them once, I think I can do it.

0:30:07.650 --> 0:30:09.010
<v S7>The Corinthians. Okay.

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<v S1>I read it once.

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<v S7>Good. So our first question is from Robert in Massachusetts,

0:30:14.610 --> 0:30:19.480
<v S7>who listens online to Spotify where you can find our podcasts. Um,

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:22.960
<v S7>thank you for a great program. In first Corinthians five nine,

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<v S7>Paul mentions a letter that he wrote to the church

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:29.080
<v S7>in Corinth, which seems to make First Corinthians a response

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:31.840
<v S7>to questions that the Corinthians had sent in response to

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:35.560
<v S7>Paul's first letter. So the verse says, I wrote you

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.640
<v S7>in a letter not to associate with sexually immoral people.

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:42.840
<v S7>So clearly he has written them something else. Um, but

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:45.200
<v S7>they seem to be lost. Are there any known copies

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:49.240
<v S7>or fragments of other churches responses to Paul's letters, or

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.080
<v S7>these other letters that Paul's written?

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<v S1>Yeah. The fact that he wrote another letter is also evident,

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:58.280
<v S1>I think, in verse 11, because he says, but now

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.840
<v S1>I am writing. Meaning I wrote before, but now I'm writing.

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:09.280
<v S1>So this is a different letter. He it is, uh,

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:12.320
<v S1>it it's possible, I think, that Paul did write other

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:19.750
<v S1>letters to the Corinthians. It's possible that's what he's talking about. Uh,

0:31:19.750 --> 0:31:23.270
<v S1>it could be that he's referring to what he was

0:31:23.270 --> 0:31:26.350
<v S1>talking about in the first eight verses, when he says,

0:31:26.350 --> 0:31:29.350
<v S1>I wrote to you in a letter before, but I

0:31:29.350 --> 0:31:33.470
<v S1>think he's actually talking about another letter that he wrote

0:31:33.470 --> 0:31:39.830
<v S1>something else. And there's no we have no, uh, we

0:31:39.830 --> 0:31:43.230
<v S1>have no copies of it. Okay. We have no fragments

0:31:43.230 --> 0:31:51.350
<v S1>of it. Uh, we, uh, we've got no evidence, uh,

0:31:51.350 --> 0:31:54.510
<v S1>that that anyone has it. And if we found it tomorrow,

0:31:54.510 --> 0:31:55.910
<v S1>it wouldn't be part of the Bible.

0:31:57.030 --> 0:31:59.190
<v S7>Okay. Even though Paul wrote it, it is not being

0:31:59.190 --> 0:32:01.510
<v S7>written by Paul. That makes it part of the Bible.

0:32:02.070 --> 0:32:04.469
<v S1>Exactly. Uh, a lot of people think that one of

0:32:04.470 --> 0:32:07.790
<v S1>the tests of canonicity about what made it into the

0:32:07.830 --> 0:32:12.709
<v S1>canon is Apostolicity. They called it, you know, did an

0:32:12.710 --> 0:32:18.940
<v S1>apostle write it? Uh, I think that many things the

0:32:18.940 --> 0:32:22.220
<v S1>apostles wrote did make it into the scriptures, but not

0:32:22.220 --> 0:32:24.500
<v S1>everything they wrote. You know, Paul would go down to

0:32:24.540 --> 0:32:28.500
<v S1>the agora, the the ancient market, and he would have

0:32:28.500 --> 0:32:31.700
<v S1>his little he'd have a little papyrus with his notes

0:32:31.700 --> 0:32:35.100
<v S1>on what he was buying, a shopping list, a shopping list,

0:32:35.100 --> 0:32:39.020
<v S1>dozen eggs, whatever it is that he was picking up there. Uh,

0:32:39.020 --> 0:32:43.100
<v S1>maybe a new quill for his letter writing. Uh, I

0:32:43.100 --> 0:32:46.140
<v S1>don't know what he would buy, but if we found

0:32:46.140 --> 0:32:49.900
<v S1>that shopping list, that wouldn't go in the Bible. Uh,

0:32:49.900 --> 0:32:53.660
<v S1>what it was is the books that were deemed inspired

0:32:53.900 --> 0:32:56.620
<v S1>were immediately received by the people of God and placed

0:32:56.620 --> 0:33:02.460
<v S1>in the canon and recognized as inspiration. The test of

0:33:02.460 --> 0:33:05.700
<v S1>of candidate for Canon City was inspiration. Is this an

0:33:05.700 --> 0:33:08.620
<v S1>inspired book? And so he wrote another letter. It was

0:33:08.620 --> 0:33:11.740
<v S1>not deemed inspired. So it was not kept or it

0:33:11.740 --> 0:33:15.739
<v S1>wasn't preserved. It wasn't put into the canon. Now there

0:33:15.780 --> 0:33:18.780
<v S1>are other books that were preserved, but they were not

0:33:18.780 --> 0:33:20.980
<v S1>put in the canon, and that was because they were

0:33:20.980 --> 0:33:28.660
<v S1>not characterized as, uh, biblical. They're not inspiration, they're not Bible, uh,

0:33:28.660 --> 0:33:32.860
<v S1>they're not inspired. And so, uh, it's just one of those,

0:33:34.260 --> 0:33:37.860
<v S1>you know, things that we're looking at. The test was

0:33:37.860 --> 0:33:41.100
<v S1>did the church immediately receive it as the word of God?

0:33:41.100 --> 0:33:44.180
<v S1>And when they did, it was placed into the canon.

0:33:44.740 --> 0:33:49.260
<v S7>Okay. Thank you. So our next move moving down to

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<v S7>first Corinthians seven. Mhm. Dan in Illinois says I'm married

0:33:53.460 --> 0:33:55.980
<v S7>to an unbeliever and we have a baby boy. Please

0:33:55.980 --> 0:34:00.180
<v S7>pray for my wife. My question is about first Corinthians

0:34:00.180 --> 0:34:04.900
<v S7>714 which says, for the unbelieving husband is set apart

0:34:04.900 --> 0:34:07.260
<v S7>for God by the wife. And the unbelieving wife is

0:34:07.260 --> 0:34:10.260
<v S7>set apart for God by the husband. Otherwise your children

0:34:10.260 --> 0:34:13.290
<v S7>would be corrupt, but now they are set apart for God.

0:34:14.210 --> 0:34:16.850
<v S7>I know that my wife isn't automatically forgiven and redeemed

0:34:16.850 --> 0:34:19.330
<v S7>because I am a believer, but what does it mean

0:34:19.610 --> 0:34:23.450
<v S7>when Paul says that that unbelieving spouse is set apart,

0:34:23.450 --> 0:34:26.489
<v S7>or made holy or sanctified through the believing spouse?

0:34:28.610 --> 0:34:37.010
<v S1>Well. I remember way back when I was a moody

0:34:37.010 --> 0:34:39.570
<v S1>student at the turn of the century. It seemed like no,

0:34:39.570 --> 0:34:41.610
<v S1>before that, the previous century.

0:34:41.650 --> 0:34:42.330
<v S7>Right.

0:34:42.850 --> 0:34:46.730
<v S1>When Lincoln was president or Roosevelt or someone. But no,

0:34:46.730 --> 0:34:51.930
<v S1>I was, uh, there was someone who was justifying dating

0:34:52.210 --> 0:34:56.810
<v S1>someone that wasn't a believer and marrying them because they

0:34:56.810 --> 0:34:58.650
<v S1>were going to they were going to get that person

0:34:58.650 --> 0:35:02.930
<v S1>saved without them actually believing. The Bible is really clear.

0:35:02.930 --> 0:35:08.009
<v S1>We are only saved by grace through faith in Jesus,

0:35:08.650 --> 0:35:11.009
<v S1>that we have to believe that Jesus died for us

0:35:11.010 --> 0:35:14.520
<v S1>and rose again. We have to have conscious faith of

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:18.560
<v S1>our own. We can't be saved because of siblings or

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:24.200
<v S1>parents or spouses. And so what does it mean? I

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:27.120
<v S1>think it puts them in a position where they are

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:31.799
<v S1>more likely to be saved, which is what Paul's point is.

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:36.280
<v S1>He's saying if you have an unbelieving spouse, don't abandon

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:38.680
<v S1>the marriage. Stay with them as long as they're willing

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:42.239
<v S1>to stay with you, because you'll be able to influence them,

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:44.879
<v S1>and you can have a positive effect, and that your

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.960
<v S1>children you can influence. And as a result of that,

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:52.480
<v S1>you will you will have a sanctifying effect on your family,

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:57.200
<v S1>because it's more likely that the unbelieving person will come

0:35:57.200 --> 0:36:01.600
<v S1>to believe through your ministry in life. And that's what

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:02.920
<v S1>I think that's talking about.

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.440
<v S7>Okay. So similar to the children that they're now, they're

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:10.279
<v S7>seeing what that looks like in the home. So they

0:36:10.390 --> 0:36:15.790
<v S7>will have that, that additional input. Um, spiritually. Yeah. Okay.

0:36:15.830 --> 0:36:19.070
<v S7>That's it. All right. Let me try one more. Yeah. Okay.

0:36:19.310 --> 0:36:23.709
<v S7>Deborah in Illinois listens to WNBA second Corinthians five nine

0:36:23.710 --> 0:36:27.509
<v S7>and ten talks about the judgment seat of Christ. It says, therefore,

0:36:27.510 --> 0:36:29.950
<v S7>whether we are at home or away, we make it

0:36:29.950 --> 0:36:32.430
<v S7>our aim to be pleasing to him. For we must

0:36:32.430 --> 0:36:35.390
<v S7>all appear before the tribunal of Christ, so that each

0:36:35.390 --> 0:36:37.350
<v S7>may be repaid for what he has done in the body,

0:36:37.350 --> 0:36:40.790
<v S7>whether good or worthless. So Deborah wants to know, what

0:36:40.790 --> 0:36:44.550
<v S7>is this account that we're giving? Will all of my words, thoughts,

0:36:44.550 --> 0:36:49.670
<v S7>behaviors be replayed there as I stand before him? Do

0:36:49.670 --> 0:36:50.549
<v S7>we know what that will look like?

0:36:50.590 --> 0:36:53.509
<v S1>You know, I don't have any details on on how

0:36:53.510 --> 0:36:55.910
<v S1>much you know. Will a transcript of our life be

0:36:55.910 --> 0:36:58.350
<v S1>played for us? A video of our lives? I don't

0:36:58.350 --> 0:37:01.470
<v S1>think so. But, you know, that's what some people think.

0:37:01.630 --> 0:37:04.150
<v S1>I think that it really when you look at first

0:37:04.150 --> 0:37:09.180
<v S1>Corinthians three, it talks about how we're building on the

0:37:09.219 --> 0:37:14.740
<v S1>work of that God began. And some people build with wood,

0:37:14.780 --> 0:37:17.819
<v S1>hay and straw. And it has to do with their

0:37:17.820 --> 0:37:22.220
<v S1>their service for the Lord. And then other people build

0:37:22.219 --> 0:37:26.500
<v S1>with gold and silver and precious gems, and that the

0:37:26.540 --> 0:37:31.980
<v S1>work will be tested by fire. And even if the.

0:37:32.020 --> 0:37:34.900
<v S1>It's all wood, hay and straw, if it's completely burned up,

0:37:34.900 --> 0:37:37.100
<v S1>the person himself will still be saved.

0:37:37.980 --> 0:37:47.740
<v S7>Uh, yes. Um, okay. Um, I think we're having some

0:37:47.739 --> 0:37:52.420
<v S7>technical difficulties with Michael. Um, we're having some technical difficulties

0:37:52.420 --> 0:37:57.420
<v S7>with Michael's, uh, microphone. And so, um, we will come back.

0:37:57.500 --> 0:37:59.900
<v S7>We're going to take a break right now. We'll come back,

0:37:59.940 --> 0:38:03.380
<v S7>get that resolved, and, um, get the rest of this

0:38:03.380 --> 0:38:06.100
<v S7>answer about the wood, hay and straw right after this break.

0:38:06.140 --> 0:38:08.890
<v S7>You're listening to Open Line with Doctor Michael Redlich. I'm

0:38:08.930 --> 0:38:11.210
<v S7>Trish McMillan, the producer of the program. This has been

0:38:11.210 --> 0:38:14.370
<v S7>our mailbag program, our mailbag segment. We'll be back with

0:38:14.370 --> 0:38:17.370
<v S7>your calls after this break. This is Moody Radio.

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<v S1>Welcome back to Open Line. Uh, a little glitch there

0:38:40.770 --> 0:38:43.170
<v S1>at the end of the last segment. My my microphone

0:38:43.170 --> 0:38:46.730
<v S1>kind of turned off, but, uh, just to remind you

0:38:46.730 --> 0:38:49.410
<v S1>that someone asked, what will we be judged at? At

0:38:49.410 --> 0:38:54.370
<v S1>the at the Bema Seat. And, uh, we were I

0:38:54.370 --> 0:38:56.410
<v S1>was saying that we'll be judged by our works for

0:38:56.410 --> 0:38:59.290
<v S1>the Lord based on First Corinthians three. Either they'll be

0:38:59.290 --> 0:39:01.609
<v S1>like wood, hay and straw and be burned up, or

0:39:01.730 --> 0:39:05.569
<v S1>some of it would be gold, silver, precious gems. And

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:09.640
<v S1>remain and will receive a reward for that. But even

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:14.200
<v S1>if we don't have anything that remains, the Bible says

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:16.399
<v S1>if we know the Lord. And everything is wood, hay

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:20.040
<v S1>and straw, we will still be saved yet so as

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.759
<v S1>through fire. But the goal would be obviously, I would

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.040
<v S1>love to hear the Lord. This is going to be

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:31.400
<v S1>the best reward, not the not the anything in terms of, uh,

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:35.200
<v S1>you know, great rewards. I want to hear well done,

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:38.320
<v S1>faithful servant, good and faithful servant. That's the best reward

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:41.400
<v S1>I could ever receive. Maybe that's my love language. I

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.239
<v S1>don't know, Trish might tell me if I knew better. Uh,

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:50.800
<v S1>words of affirmation. Right. So. So. Well, uh, before we

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<v S1>going to talk to David in Montana, listening on Moody

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<v S1>Radio Northwest. Welcome to Open Line, David. How can I

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<v S1>help you?

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<v S8>Well, my wife and I work with Awana at our church,

0:41:17.260 --> 0:41:19.900
<v S8>and some of the kids asked me a question about

0:41:19.940 --> 0:41:23.620
<v S8>their pets going to heaven. And I told them that

0:41:23.620 --> 0:41:27.939
<v S8>I didn't believe that pets could go to heaven as

0:41:27.940 --> 0:41:31.540
<v S8>we do, because John 14 six says, the only way

0:41:31.540 --> 0:41:35.060
<v S8>to get to heaven through personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

0:41:35.100 --> 0:41:38.819
<v S8>And I believe that people are made in a different

0:41:39.580 --> 0:41:43.260
<v S8>way than animals because we're made in the image of God,

0:41:43.739 --> 0:41:48.820
<v S8>and God gave us dominion over animals. So there are

0:41:48.820 --> 0:41:53.580
<v S8>different hierarchy in God's plan. So I don't know, Dave.

0:41:53.620 --> 0:41:56.700
<v S1>David, why are you asking me?

0:41:58.340 --> 0:42:01.460
<v S8>The reason being is because you have a lot more knowledge,

0:42:01.460 --> 0:42:02.890
<v S8>and I want to want to make sure I didn't

0:42:02.890 --> 0:42:06.810
<v S8>miss anything when I was talking to the children. And

0:42:06.810 --> 0:42:09.969
<v S8>it's good to interface with other believers because we can

0:42:09.969 --> 0:42:13.090
<v S8>come up with with. Okay, David.

0:42:14.050 --> 0:42:18.890
<v S1>Uh, I think that you're, in my opinion, uh, I

0:42:18.890 --> 0:42:23.650
<v S1>think God made man, humanity, man and woman in his image.

0:42:24.090 --> 0:42:27.569
<v S1>And part of the aspect of, uh, being made in

0:42:27.570 --> 0:42:31.850
<v S1>the image of God is being able to engage with

0:42:31.850 --> 0:42:36.009
<v S1>God to have a relationship with God. Uh, but there

0:42:36.010 --> 0:42:40.129
<v S1>are verses that talk about, uh, the new creation and

0:42:40.130 --> 0:42:42.410
<v S1>that there's going to be animals, which is really what

0:42:42.410 --> 0:42:45.730
<v S1>heaven is, the new heavens and the new earth, and, uh,

0:42:45.730 --> 0:42:48.489
<v S1>for our eternity, our eternal state. And there's going to

0:42:48.489 --> 0:42:54.810
<v S1>be animals present at that time. Uh, so I'm not sure.

0:42:54.850 --> 0:42:58.330
<v S1>Maybe there'll be animals that are from then and not

0:42:58.370 --> 0:43:03.410
<v S1>resurrected animals, I don't know. Uh, I'm. I'm inclined to

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<v S1>agree with you, but I never tell that to kids.

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<v S1>I just say we'll see when we get there. Uh,

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<v S1>because there's, you know, I'm not absolutely certain. And, uh,

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<v S1>I quote Don Cole, who used to host this program.

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<v S1>Pastor Cole used to say, when you get to heaven,

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<v S1>give a whistle. Who knows if Rover will come running? Uh,

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<v S1>we'll just see. Okay. And that's probably how I would

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<v S1>answer a kid in Awana.

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<v S8>So I appreciate your wisdom. And that is exactly what

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<v S8>needs to be done, is.

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<v S9>We'll see. Okay, great.

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<v S1>Okay. Thanks for your call, David. Appreciate it. Uh, we're

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<v S1>going to talk to Bruce in Florida. Welcome to Open Line, Bruce. Uh,

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<v S1>listening on RMB. How can I help you today?

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<v S10>Hi, Michael. I'm a fellow Jewish believer.

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<v S5>And.

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<v S10>I've listened. I've listened to your.

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<v S1>Can you turn off your radio?

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<v S10>Um, yes. One thing.

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<v S9>I keep, I keep.

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<v S1>Hearing myself.

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<v S9>Myself.

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<v S10>Can you hear me now? Better.

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<v S9>Yes.

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<v S10>Okay. I'm a fellow Jewish believer. In fact, I've heard

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<v S10>your testimony, and we're of similar age and backgrounds.

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<v S9>Mhm. And, uh. Well, good.

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<v S10>I was, I was calling because, uh, I had a

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<v S10>question about Matthew 22, the parable of the wedding feast.

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<v S10>What is your, uh, interpretation of who the person without

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<v S10>clothes is in verses 11 to 13.

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<v S1>When the king came in to view the guests, he

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<v S1>saw a man there who said to him, who is

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<v S1>not dressed for a wedding. So he said to him, friend,

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<v S1>how did you get in here without wedding clothes? The

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<v S1>man was speechless, and the king told the attendants, tie

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<v S1>him up hand and foot and throw him into the

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<v S1>outer darkness. It seems to me that even though the

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<v S1>invitation went out for everyone to come, uh, he chose

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<v S1>his own way rather than the appropriate wedding clothing. And, uh,

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<v S1>that that the King would provide. And it seems to

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<v S1>me that what this is talking about is people who

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<v S1>are invited into the kingdom but want to have their

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<v S1>own righteousness rather than the imputed righteousness that our King offers,

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<v S1>the righteousness that he offers us by faith in him.

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<v S1>And and I think that's what it's talking about. It's

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<v S1>talking about the person who says, oh, I'm invited, but

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<v S1>I'm going to I have to earn my way. I

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<v S1>have to make my own way. I've got to earn

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<v S1>my way into the family of God. Uh, because God

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<v S1>invited me. But I still have to be good enough. No,

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<v S1>we have to be faithful enough. We have to trust

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<v S1>in Jesus. That's what it's talking about. That would be

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<v S1>the appropriate wedding clothes. Does that make sense to you, Bruce?

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<v S10>Yes. I always thought it was interesting the way Jesus

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<v S10>throws that into the middle of that parable.

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<v S1>Yep, I agree. Well, thanks for your call. And thanks

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