WEBVTT - The Power of Role-Parenting – Part 2

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<v S1>Today on Bold Steps with Mark Jobe. We're learning how

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<v S1>to raise up the next generation.

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<v S2>And here's what the Bible says. When you honor, whether

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<v S2>you're a teenager or whether you're a 20 year old,

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<v S2>or whether you're a 13 year old. Success and longevity

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<v S2>are the byproducts of honoring your father and your mother.

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<v S2>What is the opposite of that? Short life and a

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<v S2>lot of failures.

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<v S1>Welcome to Bold Steps with Mark Jobe. Mark is president

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<v S1>of Moody Bible Institute and the senior pastor of New

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<v S1>Life Community Church in Chicago. I'm Wayne Shepherd. Over the

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<v S1>past two days, we've been learning about authority and how

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<v S1>parents have the power to bless their children. And today,

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<v S1>as we move forward, Mark is going to be explaining

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<v S1>how our willingness to train up the next generation shapes

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<v S1>the future and their destiny. Our series is titled When

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<v S1>you Believe Everything Changes. And if you have your Bible,

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<v S1>turn with us to Ephesians chapter six. Mark titled this

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<v S1>message The Power of Royal Parenting. And it starts right now.

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<v S2>Jesus authority came through the submission to his God given authority,

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<v S2>and because he was in submission to his authority. He

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<v S2>had perfect authority. There was never a time where Jesus

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<v S2>prayed for a person that was sick that he did

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<v S2>not get healed. There was never a time where he

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<v S2>touched a deaf man that did not receive his hearing.

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<v S2>There's not a time where he touched a leper and

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<v S2>the leopard wasn't clean. There's not a time when he

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<v S2>expelled the demon that a demon didn't go. Jesus had

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<v S2>perfect authority, but he had perfect authority because he was

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<v S2>in perfect submission to the authority of his of his

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<v S2>father here on earth. Therefore, because he learned perfect submission,

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<v S2>he also had perfect authority. You will never learn to

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<v S2>lead unless, first of all, you learn to follow. You

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<v S2>will never have authority unless, first of all, you place

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<v S2>yourself under authority. That's why the Bible talks so strongly

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<v S2>about the need to obey and be under the authority

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<v S2>of those that God has placed over us. I started

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<v S2>pastoring this church when I was 21 years old. That's

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<v S2>way too young. But I believe that there's some lessons

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<v S2>God had to teach me before I started pastoring that

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<v S2>I needed to learn about submission and authority. And unless

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<v S2>I had learned those lessons, I don't believe I would

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<v S2>ever have had the authority to lead. I was 21

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<v S2>and leading and leading people that were double my age.

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<v S2>I was counseling marriages and I wasn't even married. I

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<v S2>was I was, you know, ministering and preaching, But, but,

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<v S2>but part of the lessons that I had to learn

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<v S2>was the lesson of submission being under authority. And I

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<v S2>remember specifically in one instance where this lesson had to

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<v S2>be taught to me very strongly and powerfully, not through

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<v S2>my parents, but through another pastor, a church that I

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<v S2>was at. And, um, where a pastor, I thought, asked

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<v S2>me to do something unreasonable at the time. I my

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<v S2>hair was sort of the hair of the day. It

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<v S2>wasn't super long, but, you know, it was kind of

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<v S2>a little bit long. Can you still imagine that? So

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<v S2>me with long hair. Okay. And the pastor had asked

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<v S2>me to teach a class, and the pastor asked me

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<v S2>before I taught the class, he asked me to cut

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<v S2>my hair. And I remember I was kind of ticked

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<v S2>at it, like, you didn't ask me how my spiritual

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<v S2>life is. You didn't ask me if I feel qualified.

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<v S2>You didn't ask me if I was praying. You just

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<v S2>looked at my hair and you want me to cut

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<v S2>my hair. Inside of me, that little rebellious like, who

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<v S2>is this guy going to tell me to change my

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<v S2>style just because he has short hair? Dresses in a

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<v S2>suit and tie all the time. And so I made

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<v S2>an appointment with him. I said, I'd like to talk

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<v S2>to you first before I cut my hair. I'd like

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<v S2>to talk to you. And I got Ahold of his secretary.

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<v S2>And his secretary says he'd be happy to talk to

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<v S2>you after you cut your hair. And I was like, okay, that's.

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<v S2>That's it. Bunch of hypocrites. Legalistic, carnal. I'm out of

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<v S2>this place. I'm like, building my own case. I can't

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<v S2>believe that what they're doing. I'm not going to teach

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<v S2>that class now. I'm not going to do anything like that.

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<v S2>I was in college at the time. I went to

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<v S2>my dorm, told everybody there like, he told you what, man?

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<v S2>You should leave that church. Forget that church. I'm like, yeah.

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<v S2>Have you ever felt the conviction of the Holy Spirit?

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<v S2>I'm building my case. I'm talking about that. And no

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<v S2>one was there. No one was talking about. I felt

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<v S2>this sharp conviction of the Holy Spirit simply saying submit. Submit.

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<v S2>He's your spiritual authority right now. If he would have

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<v S2>asked you to do something hard, you'd have done it.

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<v S2>I felt the conviction in my Holy Spirit so much.

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<v S2>I felt such conviction, the Holy Spirit that that day

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<v S2>I went to some guy on the floor, another college student.

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<v S2>I said, grab your scissors. Cut my hair. He did

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<v S2>never grew back after that. Nah. Just kidding dad. I

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<v S2>went back and I said, you know what? I did that,

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<v S2>and I feel like God spoke to me at that

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<v S2>moment about. I didn't agree with it. I thought it was, but.

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<v S2>But God spoke to me at that moment. What God

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<v S2>was trying to teach me is a lesson on obedience

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<v S2>and submission. Because you can never have authority unless you

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<v S2>learn to be under authority. Listen, listen, young men, if

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<v S2>you're a teenager right now and you're 18 years old, listen,

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<v S2>you will never be able to lead your household unless,

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<v S2>first of all, you learn to submit to the leader

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<v S2>of your household. One day you will have a family.

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<v S2>One day you will have kids, one day you will

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<v S2>lead a household. And you're never going to learn to lead.

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<v S2>Unless first of all, you learn to submit. And listen.

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<v S2>I am convinced it was shortly after that, not too

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<v S2>long after that, a couple of years after that, I

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<v S2>find myself, at the age of 21, pastoring a church.

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<v S2>But I am convinced that I would never have started

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<v S2>pastoring at that young age unless I would have. I

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<v S2>would have proved that test or or or gone through

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<v S2>that test of learning what it meant to submit. The

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<v S2>Bible says that rebellion is like the sin of witchcraft.

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<v S2>It gets into your soul and it starts eating away.

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<v S2>To obey is better than sacrifice and to hearken than

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<v S2>the fat of rams. That's why it is the parent's

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<v S2>responsibility to begin to teach children the power of obedience.

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<v S2>Because ultimately, when you teach your children to obey, it

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<v S2>will serve them in the rest of their life. They

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<v S2>will learn to lead sooner. They will lead better. They

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<v S2>will take authority sooner. They will begin to have influence

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<v S2>at a greater age. If you if they don't learn now,

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<v S2>when they become heads of households, their life will be

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<v S2>out of control because they've never learned to be under

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<v S2>the authority and submission of someone that's over them. Amen. Children.

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<v S2>Obey your parents in the Lord. What does that word

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<v S2>in the Lord mean? Ultimately, it means that when you

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<v S2>submit to your parents, you're not submitting to them, but

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<v S2>you're submitting to God. You cannot be rebellious toward your

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<v S2>parents and in right relationship with God, because whatever you

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<v S2>do to your parents, ultimately you are doing to the

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<v S2>authority that God has set above you. You can't say, well,

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<v S2>I don't respect my parents, I don't obey them. But

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<v S2>me and God, man we're tight. No no no no.

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<v S2>You're tight with something. But let me tell you, it's

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<v S2>not the Spirit of God. It may be some other spirit,

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<v S2>but it's not the Spirit of God. Because when you

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<v S2>learn to you, you say, well, I've had this conversation

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<v S2>with a lot of people. They say, well, I don't

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<v S2>think my dad deserves my respect. I just had a

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<v S2>conversation with someone after our first service. They said, you know,

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<v S2>my dad was a womanizer. My dad treated my mother wrong.

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<v S2>I don't see how I could respect my dad for

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<v S2>what he did. Listen, I know some of you have

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<v S2>dads or mothers that necessarily weren't the best in the world.

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<v S2>But here's the thing when you obey them at this age,

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<v S2>you're not obeying them because they deserve to be obeyed

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<v S2>by their character. You're obeying them because you're trusting God

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<v S2>to work through them, not trusting that they are worthy,

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<v S2>but that God is worthy and has placed him in

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<v S2>a in a position to bless you. Are you tracking

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<v S2>with me? You say, well, pastor, I don't understand that. Well,

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<v S2>do you remember King David? King David in the Bible

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<v S2>God said, you will be king one day. And he

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<v S2>put king. Saul was still king over him. And King

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<v S2>Saul was a jealous, egocentric maniac that was looking to

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<v S2>kill David. But David respected the authority of Saul and said,

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<v S2>I will not touch God's anointed. I will not lift

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<v S2>my hand. I will not kill him. God raises and

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<v S2>puts down. And because David submitted to Saul, God raised

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<v S2>David up at the right time to be the leader

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<v S2>of a kingdom, because he learned to respect the position

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<v S2>of authority that God had placed him on. The same

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<v S2>it is in our life as well.

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<v S1>You're listening to Bold Steps with Mark Jobe. A message

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<v S1>he's titled The Power of Royal Parenting. You know, Mark,

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<v S1>parents aren't the only ones who have the power to

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<v S1>shape and change lives. We all can be an encouragement

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<v S1>to others if we take the time. And that's something

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<v S1>we're hearing from listeners.

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<v S3>Yes we are. And by the way, we just want

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<v S3>to say we love hearing from our listeners. Thank you

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<v S3>for reaching out, sharing your stories, testimonies, faith questions. We

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<v S3>read them all on a regular basis. I pray over

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<v S3>the prayer requests that come in. Just yesterday I was

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<v S3>doing so and so. It's encouraging to hear what's going

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<v S3>on in your life and how God is moving through

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<v S3>this program as well.

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<v S1>Well, let me take a moment and share with you

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<v S1>a letter we got in response to a recent message

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<v S1>you gave. This listener says, before school began this fall,

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<v S1>I was asked to do something more special than just

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<v S1>our typical prayer for the children and their families. I

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<v S1>knew exactly what I was going to do because God

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<v S1>was stirring in me the importance of blessing my children.

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<v S1>After listening to pastor Mark, just as he demonstrated blessing

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<v S1>his children, I brought my children with me in front

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<v S1>of the families of our church and bless my kids.

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<v S1>I spoke to the parents and grandparents about the power

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<v S1>of their words and the importance to bless their children

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<v S1>and grandchildren. I was amazed by how many people were

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<v S1>brought to tears, but how they needed that affirmation as

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<v S1>a child but never received it. Your one message has

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<v S1>had a ripple effect, not just in my family, but

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<v S1>in many families now because of this one bold step.

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<v S1>Thank you for what you are doing to create a

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<v S1>generational impact in families so that God's love overflows into

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<v S1>the lives of children and hopefully for years to come

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<v S1>in their children's children.

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<v S2>Wonderful, huh? I love that testimony. And if you're a

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<v S2>parent out there, I just want to encourage you with

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<v S2>the power of blessing. As this listener has said, there's

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<v S2>something compelling about you putting your hand on the head

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<v S2>or the shoulder of your sons or daughters and just

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<v S2>speaking what you see in their lives. In fact, we

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<v S2>did that recently at a chapel with all the seniors

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<v S2>here at Moody Bible Institute that were graduating.

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<v S1>I heard about that at.

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<v S2>The very end. We said, I want you to come

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<v S2>and just pray blessing over them, but also speak into

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<v S2>what you see in their lives, what you see in them.

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<v S2>And you know, Wayne, so many times we don't see

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<v S2>what other people actually see in us because of insecurity, doubt, fear.

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<v S2>And so there's a lot of power in words, of blessing.

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<v S1>Well, thank you for sharing that bold step with us,

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<v S1>and we'd love to hear how you have taken a

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<v S1>bold step, and we'd love to pray for you as well.

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<v S1>Connect with us online at Bold Steps. Org Or you

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<v S1>can give us a call and leave your message on

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<v S1>a recorded line. This number is (312) 329-2011. 312329 2011. And

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<v S1>of course, you're always welcome to send us email. The

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<v S1>address is bold steps. Again, we thank our listener for

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<v S1>that bold step story. Now let's get back to today's

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<v S1>message from Mark on the power of role parenting.

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<v S2>Now, the only exception is this that ultimately you're submitting

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<v S2>to the authority of God. So if your parent or

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<v S2>if your boss or if your pastor, if your government

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<v S2>leader or anybody in authority or principal at a school

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<v S2>ever asked you to do something that is contrary to

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<v S2>the rules and laws of God, then you can say no.

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<v S2>If your parent asked you to lie, cheat. If they

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<v S2>asked you to do something that is sinful, then you

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<v S2>have the ability and the power to say no because

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<v S2>ultimately you are submitting to God, just like Peter did.

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<v S2>When the governing authorities say you cannot preach Jesus anymore.

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<v S2>Peter said, who shall I obey, man or God? So ultimately,

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<v S2>no one can ever ask you to do something immoral.

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<v S2>No one can ever ask you to violate or do

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<v S2>something sinful. You have the ability to say no. But

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<v S2>on other issues, there's the issue of submission to the

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<v S2>authority that God has given us. And then it says this. Listen,

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<v S2>it says honor your mother and father. And by the way,

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<v S2>he's quoting one of the Ten Commandments, because in Deuteronomy.

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<v S2>In Deuteronomy chapter five, verse 16, it says, honor your

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<v S2>father and mother as the Lord your God commanded you,

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<v S2>so that you may live a long life, that it

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<v S2>may go well with you in the land of the

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<v S2>Lord your God has given you. Paul quotes that again,

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<v S2>and he says, listen, SIM. Honor your father and mother,

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<v S2>which is the first commandment, with a promise that it

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<v S2>may go well with you and that you may enjoy

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<v S2>a long life here on earth. There comes a time

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<v S2>in your life where you go from obeying your parents

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<v S2>to honoring your parents. If you're out on your own

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<v S2>and you're 30 years old and you have your wife

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<v S2>and you have your own children, you're financially independent and

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<v S2>your mother comes to you and says to you, you

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<v S2>need to obey me. Then you need to say, mom,

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<v S2>I love you, but I don't have to obey you, mom.

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<v S2>I honor you, but I don't have to obey you.

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<v S2>There's a difference between honor and obedience. Honor means that

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<v S2>you consider respectfully what they say. You weigh what they say.

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<v S2>But there comes a point in time where you actually

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<v S2>just honor them, but not obey them. Listen, guys. Listen up.

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<v S2>This is important. I know some of you are mama's boys.

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<v S2>You get in a little fight with your wife? You

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<v S2>call up mom and Mom. Guess what? My wife's not

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<v S2>just understanding me. I just nags me and you say, oh, mijo.

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<v S2>I told you all along she was going to be

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<v S2>that way. You come over to mama's house now. Let

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<v S2>me make you a little carlito, and I'm gonna, you know,

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<v S2>just snuggle up on the couch. You don't have to

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<v S2>put up with that nagging wife. You just come over here. Listen, mom.

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<v S2>He's got a family. Don't give him a couch to

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<v S2>sleep on. Don't let him. Don't tell him he can

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<v S2>stay at your house for a week. You make him

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<v S2>go home and deal with his wife. Because that's his family,

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<v S2>not that's his family. He needs to go home. He

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<v S2>needs to go back to his wife. He needs to

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<v S2>deal with the issues of his wife. And listen, man,

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<v S2>you your responsibility. You have a woman in your life

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<v S2>and your mother, you honor, but your wife is the

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<v S2>new woman in your life, and she takes priority in

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<v S2>your life. Because the Bible says when you marry, you leave,

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<v S2>you cleave, and you become one. Okay. Gotta settle that

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<v S2>right now. But you honor. And here's what the Bible says.

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<v S2>When you honor, whether you're a teenager or whether you're

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<v S2>20 year old, or whether you're 13 year old, when

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<v S2>you honor the Bible says it's the first commandment with

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<v S2>a promise. What is the promise? There's a two fold promise,

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<v S2>number one, that it may go well with you. In

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<v S2>other words, that you may have success in life. And

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<v S2>number two, that you may live a long life here

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<v S2>on Earth. Success and longevity are the byproducts of honoring

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<v S2>your father and your mother. Success and longevity are the

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<v S2>byproducts of honoring your father and your mother. What is

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<v S2>the opposite of that? Short life and a lot of failures.

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<v S2>Failure and a short life. You say, well, pastor, I

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<v S2>really want to live long and I want to live healthy.

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<v S2>I'm taking all these multivitamin pills, and I'm watching my cholesterol,

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<v S2>and I'm I'm. I'm eating. It's not butter, pastor. It's

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<v S2>like synthetic stuff with no calories. And I'm trying to

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<v S2>work out. I'm glad I believe in fitness. I want

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<v S2>you to be healthy. But listen, how about honoring your

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<v S2>mother and your father? Because that will add longevity to

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<v S2>your life and success to your life as well. It's

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<v S2>one of the Ten Commandments. It's one of the words

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<v S2>in Scripture. And I don't care how old your father

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<v S2>and mother are. You honor them. How do you honor them?

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<v S2>You call them up, you let them know they're important.

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<v S2>You listen to them, you say, well, all they talk

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<v S2>about is the good old days and complain about. Hey,

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<v S2>you listen to them and and and you honor them,

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<v S2>and you respect them, and you talk to them, and

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<v S2>you help them out. Why? You honor your father and

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<v S2>your mother. You don't treat them as well. They're just

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<v S2>old people that don't. No, no, no, they're your mother

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<v S2>and your father. The older they get, the more respect

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<v S2>they deserve to have from you and the grandkids and

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<v S2>the great grandchildren. One of the worst fallacies of our

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<v S2>nation is the degradation and devaluation of elderly people. I

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<v S2>was impressed when I went to China how they uphold

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<v S2>and venerate and value the elderly. We live in a

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<v S2>society in which the elderly pretty much are set aside,

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<v S2>as useless to society as inconveniences to everybody's life. God

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<v S2>forgive us as an American society. The Bible talks about

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<v S2>honoring the elderly, listening to them, valuing them. And I

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<v S2>hope that sons and daughters, if you're in your 50s

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<v S2>and your 50s and your parents are in their 70s,

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<v S2>or you're in your 60s and your parents are in

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<v S2>the 80s, I hope that you're inviting them over to eat.

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<v S2>I hope that you're listening to them. I hope that

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<v S2>you're going out of your way to make that sure

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<v S2>that they're doing okay. I hope that you are giving

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<v S2>them some honor in their life. I hope that you're

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<v S2>giving them some dignity in their life. I hope that

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<v S2>you're talking to them in a way that they feel

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<v S2>valued and respected and not thrown aside or pushed aside.

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<v S2>I hope that that's part of what you're doing as

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<v S2>an adult child of some parents that are getting elderly

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<v S2>because that honors God looks upon that and that pleases

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<v S2>the heart of God, and it flows in blessing to

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<v S2>your life, success and longevity to your life. Amen.

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<v S1>We're learning about honor and the promise of God found

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<v S1>in Ephesians chapter six. You're listening to the Bible teaching

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<v S1>of Mark job, and this is Bold Steps. Well, right

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<v S1>you didn't know you had. I love that title. It's

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<v S1>written by our guest, pastor Mike Fabares.

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<v S2>Yeah. And by the way, many of you are familiar

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<v S2>with pastor Mike because he's on the radio. He's written

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<v S2>several books. He's a graduate from Moody Bible Institute and

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<v S2>actually on the board of directors as well. And so

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<v S2>love pastor Mike and his ministry. I was thinking about

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<v S2>this topic of envy and how oftentimes we just don't

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<v S2>consider ourselves envious. Pastor Mike, if you were to help

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<v S2>someone self-diagnose whether they have envy, what would you point to?

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<v S2>What should they be looking for?

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<v S4>Well, I would start by saying, are there any people

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<v S4>in your everyday world that you just find yourself erring

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<v S4>on the side of being critical when you really shouldn't

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<v S4>be and you think, well, why am I not happy

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<v S4>applauding their success? Right. This is hard, but we need

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<v S4>to look at the people that we are critical of.

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<v S4>And if you look hard enough, you often find it's

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<v S4>because I really envious of what they get that I

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<v S4>don't have what they've accomplished, that I haven't been able

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<v S4>to accomplish that, that they make so much money, so

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<v S4>much more money than I make. There's a lot of

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<v S4>reasons that we, um, just spring into gossip and criticism

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<v S4>and just talking behind people's back in a negative way,

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<v S4>and usually we can start to realize what's happened is

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<v S4>something really between me and God. It's really not between

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<v S4>me and them. Mhm.

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<v S1>Pastor Mike. Our envy and jealousy interchangeable.

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<v S4>Not really. Um, there's a kind of jealousy that's appropriate

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<v S4>in the Bible, right? God says he's a jealous God

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<v S4>in Exodus 34. There's a time for you right to

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<v S4>rightly in your marriage. Be jealous if there's something threatening

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<v S4>that relationship. But envy is always seen as something wrong

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<v S4>in Scripture, and we're never to envy anyone. And what

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<v S4>envy is, is taking a jealous feeling when I have

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<v S4>no right to feel jealous. And now I start to

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<v S4>have a a bitterness toward that person for accomplishing or

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<v S4>achieving or securing something that I haven't been able to.

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<v S4>And Jesus tells parables about this. You've got to be

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<v S4>careful in your own heart to guard your heart against

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<v S4>this kind of envy, because it is different than jealousy,

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<v S4>because sometimes jealousy can be appropriate.

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<v S5>That's great. So there you have it, pastor Mike.

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<v S2>Fabrice, we would love to get this book into your hand.

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<v S2>It's called a big problem you didn't know you had envy.

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<v S2>Thank you, pastor Mike.

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