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Hi friends. 44 00:02:06,370 --> 00:02:08,650 S1: Welcome to In the Market with Janet Parshall. Thank you 45 00:02:08,650 --> 00:02:11,090 S1: so much for spending the hour with me. We're going 46 00:02:11,130 --> 00:02:13,690 S1: to talk about worry and anxiety because did you hear 47 00:02:13,690 --> 00:02:17,410 S1: that cacophony in the marketplace of ideas? I'm pretty certain 48 00:02:17,410 --> 00:02:21,410 S1: that just about everybody in that marketplace worries about something 49 00:02:21,450 --> 00:02:23,410 S1: at some time. And sometimes it gets even worse. It 50 00:02:23,410 --> 00:02:26,370 S1: becomes anxiety, which is sort of an enhanced version of 51 00:02:26,370 --> 00:02:28,570 S1: all of this. Linda mintel will tell you more about 52 00:02:28,570 --> 00:02:30,490 S1: that in a minute, but I want you to get 53 00:02:30,490 --> 00:02:33,810 S1: your questions answered about this, because sometimes you wonder whether 54 00:02:33,810 --> 00:02:37,650 S1: or not we've got some habits that actually increase our anxiety. 55 00:02:37,810 --> 00:02:39,090 S1: And if we do, how do we get rid of 56 00:02:39,090 --> 00:02:41,370 S1: those habits and how can we turn them around? You know, 57 00:02:41,410 --> 00:02:43,610 S1: the Bible is replete with direction that we're not to 58 00:02:43,650 --> 00:02:46,090 S1: be anxious, we're not to be worried. And the reason 59 00:02:46,090 --> 00:02:48,850 S1: we're told not to is because God understands our fault, 60 00:02:48,889 --> 00:02:52,450 S1: our failed fallen human condition. We have a propensity to 61 00:02:52,490 --> 00:02:55,290 S1: worry about everything Jesus says in Matthew, don't worry about tomorrow. 62 00:02:55,330 --> 00:02:58,610 S1: Tomorrow has enough worries for itself, and I like the idea. 63 00:02:58,610 --> 00:03:01,530 S1: I saw this precious woman posted on Instagram and she 64 00:03:01,530 --> 00:03:03,690 S1: was encouraging people to pray with her. So I took 65 00:03:03,690 --> 00:03:05,609 S1: the time to do that. And one of the things 66 00:03:05,610 --> 00:03:07,770 S1: she prayed about was not taking our worries to bed 67 00:03:07,770 --> 00:03:09,730 S1: with us. I laughed out loud. I thought, what a 68 00:03:09,730 --> 00:03:11,930 S1: great phrase that is, Lord, I'm not taking my worries 69 00:03:11,930 --> 00:03:14,290 S1: to bed with me. So we're going to talk about 70 00:03:14,290 --> 00:03:16,450 S1: that and you're going to get your questions answered. So 71 00:03:16,450 --> 00:03:24,930 S1: you need this. (877) 548-3675. That's (877) 548-3675. Questions only. But any 72 00:03:24,930 --> 00:03:31,290 S1: question you have about worry or anxiety again (877) 548-3675. Let 73 00:03:31,290 --> 00:03:32,730 S1: me tell you who our guest is. I'm thrilled to 74 00:03:32,730 --> 00:03:35,330 S1: have Linda mintel back on the program again. She's got 75 00:03:35,330 --> 00:03:38,090 S1: her PhD in urban health and clinical psychology. She's a 76 00:03:38,090 --> 00:03:41,610 S1: national expert on mental health. She's a prolific author. She's 77 00:03:41,610 --> 00:03:44,290 S1: written all kinds of books. She hosts her own radio program, 78 00:03:44,290 --> 00:03:47,370 S1: she's got her own podcast, and she teaches doctors how 79 00:03:47,370 --> 00:03:49,770 S1: to be doctors. How's that? That's pretty impressive, isn't it? Well, 80 00:03:49,770 --> 00:03:51,610 S1: she's got a bunch of books on this topic, but 81 00:03:51,610 --> 00:03:54,210 S1: her most recent is called Hope and anxiety. Hope and 82 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:58,100 S1: healing rather for anxiety. A guide to manage stress and 83 00:03:58,100 --> 00:04:01,700 S1: Overcome Anxiety. Uh, it's a wonderful book. It's literally a 84 00:04:01,740 --> 00:04:03,900 S1: hands on workbook kind of approach to this, and I 85 00:04:03,900 --> 00:04:06,220 S1: strongly recommend it to you all. Linda and I have 86 00:04:06,260 --> 00:04:08,860 S1: talked about this in the past, but honestly, upon reflection, 87 00:04:08,860 --> 00:04:11,580 S1: I thought we haven't talked about this enough. Couple this 88 00:04:11,580 --> 00:04:14,300 S1: with an article that Linda put on her blog recently 89 00:04:14,300 --> 00:04:16,460 S1: that I thought was very important. It was called three 90 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:20,180 S1: Self Habits That Fuel Anxiety. Uh oh. Inherent in that 91 00:04:20,180 --> 00:04:22,779 S1: title means you and I might be making decisions that 92 00:04:22,779 --> 00:04:24,860 S1: actually make our anxiety and our worry worse. So we're 93 00:04:24,860 --> 00:04:27,020 S1: going to talk about that. But again, we're taking your 94 00:04:27,020 --> 00:04:36,020 S1: questions this hour. 87754836758775483675 Linda the warmest of welcomes. Thank 95 00:04:36,020 --> 00:04:37,940 S1: you so very much for being with us. I have 96 00:04:37,940 --> 00:04:39,900 S1: a million questions. I'll get out in front of my 97 00:04:39,900 --> 00:04:42,340 S1: friends as they're starting to light up the lines. And 98 00:04:42,339 --> 00:04:44,740 S1: I said something in those opening remarks. Is there a 99 00:04:44,740 --> 00:04:51,060 S1: distinction clinically, behaviorally just commonsensically between worry and anxiety, or 100 00:04:51,060 --> 00:04:52,099 S1: are they one and the same? 101 00:04:53,140 --> 00:04:56,140 S5: Well, worry is a part of anxiety, so it's the 102 00:04:56,140 --> 00:04:59,900 S5: mental part of anxiety. So some people carry their their 103 00:04:59,940 --> 00:05:03,500 S5: anxiety more in their head. You know, they're they're constantly 104 00:05:04,060 --> 00:05:07,300 S5: thinking certain types of worried thoughts. They may have these 105 00:05:07,339 --> 00:05:10,779 S5: sort of black and white thinking where things are catastrophe, 106 00:05:10,820 --> 00:05:13,659 S5: you know, something's a catastrophe or something is going to 107 00:05:13,660 --> 00:05:15,340 S5: be black or white. And then when they hit a 108 00:05:15,339 --> 00:05:17,859 S5: gray area, they're not they get really anxious because it 109 00:05:17,860 --> 00:05:21,580 S5: doesn't fit into a nice little, nice little, you know, um, 110 00:05:21,740 --> 00:05:24,420 S5: place that they can put it. So there's a lot 111 00:05:24,420 --> 00:05:28,700 S5: of thinking patterns that can create worry. And worry is 112 00:05:28,700 --> 00:05:30,740 S5: the what if part, but it is the mental part 113 00:05:30,740 --> 00:05:33,980 S5: of anxiety. Anxiety can be felt in your body. You 114 00:05:33,980 --> 00:05:37,220 S5: can get triggered with anxiety without even having a thought. 115 00:05:37,420 --> 00:05:42,539 S5: So it's interesting because depending on your life experiences, depending 116 00:05:42,540 --> 00:05:46,140 S5: on the environment, depending on a lot of factors, there's 117 00:05:46,140 --> 00:05:48,779 S5: a lot of factors. You might be taking a medication, 118 00:05:48,779 --> 00:05:51,750 S5: you might have some type of illness that could actually 119 00:05:51,750 --> 00:05:55,190 S5: create anxiety. A lot of things, a lot of routes 120 00:05:55,190 --> 00:05:58,310 S5: to anxiety. And sometimes we just feel it and we're 121 00:05:58,310 --> 00:06:01,590 S5: not sure how to deal with it. Other times it's 122 00:06:01,589 --> 00:06:05,029 S5: really in our brain and in our mind. And Janet, 123 00:06:05,029 --> 00:06:08,390 S5: I just want to say that I've been really focused 124 00:06:08,390 --> 00:06:13,109 S5: lately on Gen Z and been very concerned because that's 125 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:16,310 S5: the the medical students that I teach right now. And 126 00:06:16,310 --> 00:06:18,950 S5: one of the things that I've noticed is a real 127 00:06:18,950 --> 00:06:23,430 S5: change in the ability to be resilient, to cope. A 128 00:06:23,470 --> 00:06:28,190 S5: lot of anxiety. I'm presenting in June at a national conference, 129 00:06:28,190 --> 00:06:31,150 S5: medical conference, and I'm presenting on Gen Z's, and I 130 00:06:31,150 --> 00:06:34,830 S5: was shocked when I looked at the statistics. One of 131 00:06:34,830 --> 00:06:37,550 S5: the statistics is that more than a third of young 132 00:06:37,589 --> 00:06:42,150 S5: adults in the U.S. report experiencing anxiety. 43% of them 133 00:06:42,150 --> 00:06:45,710 S5: say they deal with panic attacks. And what they're anxious 134 00:06:45,710 --> 00:06:50,630 S5: about is very interesting. The number one anxiety for that 135 00:06:50,630 --> 00:06:55,110 S5: age group is the public. So isn't that interesting that 136 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:57,430 S5: it isn't, you know, the typical things that we've thought 137 00:06:57,430 --> 00:06:59,910 S5: about for years, but they get they get anxious in 138 00:06:59,910 --> 00:07:03,070 S5: the public, they get anxious in crowds. They get anxious 139 00:07:03,070 --> 00:07:07,430 S5: in job situations. Um, and then of course, you know, friends, 140 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:10,430 S5: family is in there too. But there just seems to 141 00:07:10,430 --> 00:07:15,830 S5: be a difference if this generation that has been overexposed 142 00:07:16,470 --> 00:07:20,030 S5: to a virtual world and they've been under protected in 143 00:07:20,110 --> 00:07:24,750 S5: that world and they've been underexposed to the physical, real 144 00:07:24,750 --> 00:07:27,870 S5: life stuff like play as a child because of screens 145 00:07:27,870 --> 00:07:31,110 S5: and they're digital natives. So they've been on social media 146 00:07:31,390 --> 00:07:35,630 S5: their entire life, and they've been overprotected and maybe coddled. 147 00:07:35,630 --> 00:07:39,870 S5: And there was a piece years ago called The Coddling 148 00:07:39,910 --> 00:07:44,110 S5: of the American Mind. And so all of these things 149 00:07:44,350 --> 00:07:48,750 S5: are really factors into what is going on in our 150 00:07:48,750 --> 00:07:50,870 S5: culture today. And if you're a parent of a Gen 151 00:07:50,870 --> 00:07:54,270 S5: Z or you're a grandparent, you're concerned because they're just 152 00:07:54,270 --> 00:07:58,470 S5: highly anxious in that generation. And I think that social media, 153 00:07:58,470 --> 00:08:01,230 S5: digital native piece and then Covid and some of the 154 00:08:01,230 --> 00:08:04,550 S5: other factors that have happened in life have really made 155 00:08:04,550 --> 00:08:07,670 S5: a difference. So not the case for everybody. But I 156 00:08:07,670 --> 00:08:09,550 S5: did want to bring that up because it seems to 157 00:08:09,550 --> 00:08:11,470 S5: be a significant issue right now. 158 00:08:11,510 --> 00:08:13,710 S1: Well, and it's clearly on your mind. So I this 159 00:08:13,710 --> 00:08:17,510 S1: is the joy of having non-scripted conversations, because you took 160 00:08:17,510 --> 00:08:19,670 S1: me to an area I didn't know we'd be examining. 161 00:08:19,670 --> 00:08:23,270 S1: But I have a concern, obviously, about that same generation. 162 00:08:23,270 --> 00:08:25,230 S1: Any of us who have kids or grandkids in that area, 163 00:08:25,230 --> 00:08:28,550 S1: we have to be concerned that number of over 40%, 164 00:08:28,550 --> 00:08:33,110 S1: almost 50% who have anxiety attacks, panic attacks, that's horrible. 165 00:08:33,150 --> 00:08:35,230 S1: I mean, my heart breaks for them. And you used 166 00:08:35,230 --> 00:08:36,630 S1: a bunch of words and I wrote them down as 167 00:08:36,630 --> 00:08:40,630 S1: you were using them underexposed, underprepared, not resilient. And I 168 00:08:40,630 --> 00:08:42,350 S1: think you gave me a little bit of a sneak 169 00:08:42,350 --> 00:08:45,630 S1: peek as to why that's happening. So you talked about, um, 170 00:08:45,750 --> 00:08:49,560 S1: they're not playing too much screen time. I wonder if 171 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,199 S1: there are any other factors I want to know, because again, 172 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,160 S1: if I were going to live a second life and 173 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,600 S1: go back and get a, you know, a doctorate degree 174 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,080 S1: and do a thesis, I would love to see a 175 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,800 S1: longitudinal study on kids and the effects that screens have had. 176 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,280 S1: This isn't a reaction, I think, where we were going 177 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,640 S1: to get an overnight outcome, but I think we're starting 178 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,680 S1: to build some data now that will you make choices 179 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,960 S1: with what you do with your time and your mind, 180 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,680 S1: and now you're going to have some negative residuals here, 181 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,480 S1: just like this. Number one concern of theirs being the public. Well, 182 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,000 S1: look what the screen time does. It builds isolation. It 183 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,440 S1: doesn't build community. So we got a lot to talk about. 184 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:31,640 S1: But also your questions are going to drive this friends 87754836758775483675. 185 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,120 S1: Any question you have on anxiety or worry for Doctor 186 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:47,719 S1: Linda mintel back after this? How does our view of 187 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,079 S1: God get distorted? Do you struggle with feeling close to God? Well, 188 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,520 S1: that's why I've chosen secure how to have a healthy 189 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,520 S1: attachment to God. As this month's truth tool, discover how 190 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,160 S1: to counter the lies about the truth of God's character. 191 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,520 S1: Ask for your copy of secure. When you give a 192 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,600 S1: gift of any amount to in the market, call eight 7758. 193 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,520 S1: That's eight 7758 or go to in the market with 194 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:16,240 S1: Janet Parshall. We are spending the hour with Doctor Linda mintel, 195 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,040 S1: who certainly understands the dynamic of human relationships, teaches doctors, 196 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,040 S1: writes books, hosts her own radio program blogs. And I'm 197 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,320 S1: so glad she's with us this hour. And we're focusing 198 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,480 S1: this hour on the subject of worry and anxiety. And 199 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,920 S1: to that end, a recent book and Linda's written a 200 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,719 S1: whole bunch, a whole bunch of books. A recent book 201 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,360 S1: is called Hope and healing for anxiety A Guide to 202 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,000 S1: Manage Stress and Overcome Anxiety. And it's literally a hands 203 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,280 S1: on book for you to help walk through this. Linda, 204 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,520 S1: I'm going to come back to what I asked you 205 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,730 S1: before about causes for Gen Z in particular, but I 206 00:10:45,730 --> 00:10:47,929 S1: want to fold our guests in as we go along 207 00:10:47,929 --> 00:10:50,490 S1: the road in our conversation. So, Michael from Florida, I 208 00:10:50,530 --> 00:10:52,850 S1: welcome you and your question for Doctor Linda mintel. 209 00:10:54,050 --> 00:10:57,370 S6: Yes. Thank you. Is it a sin to worry? 210 00:10:59,290 --> 00:11:02,610 S5: Well, that is a great question. I actually get asked 211 00:11:02,610 --> 00:11:05,570 S5: that a lot, Michael. So here's the deal with worry. 212 00:11:06,090 --> 00:11:10,970 S5: What does worry? What is worry about? Worry is actually 213 00:11:11,210 --> 00:11:14,770 S5: about not trusting God. And so if you think of 214 00:11:14,770 --> 00:11:18,170 S5: what is the opposite of trust, it would be doubt. 215 00:11:18,370 --> 00:11:22,890 S5: And worry is about doubt. So when we worry we 216 00:11:22,890 --> 00:11:26,570 S5: are saying, yeah, I know you're God. I know you're 217 00:11:26,570 --> 00:11:29,050 S5: up there, you know you're in me, is what we 218 00:11:29,050 --> 00:11:31,050 S5: should be saying. Because he's not up there. He's in us. 219 00:11:31,370 --> 00:11:33,770 S5: I know that you know, you say that I don't 220 00:11:33,770 --> 00:11:37,250 S5: have to worry about tomorrow. But, you know, I think 221 00:11:37,250 --> 00:11:39,410 S5: this problem is too big. I think this problem is big. 222 00:11:39,450 --> 00:11:40,890 S5: You know, I think I need to do this. I 223 00:11:40,890 --> 00:11:43,370 S5: think there's some usefulness. And that's one of the things 224 00:11:43,370 --> 00:11:46,410 S5: I hear from people all the time. Well, worry helps me. Well, 225 00:11:46,410 --> 00:11:49,730 S5: it really doesn't. It doesn't go anywhere. So when you're worrying, 226 00:11:49,730 --> 00:11:54,130 S5: you're kind of saying to God, yeah, but in my case, 227 00:11:54,170 --> 00:11:57,569 S5: it isn't really the trusting you isn't really going to work. 228 00:11:57,929 --> 00:11:59,610 S5: So if you think about it like that, you think 229 00:11:59,610 --> 00:12:02,490 S5: that worries about doubt, it's doubting God. It's doubting that 230 00:12:02,490 --> 00:12:05,610 S5: God is in control. It's doubting that God is working 231 00:12:05,610 --> 00:12:09,050 S5: for you, not against you. It's doubting that God is 232 00:12:09,050 --> 00:12:12,809 S5: ordering your steps. It's really taking the promises of the 233 00:12:12,809 --> 00:12:16,850 S5: Scripture and not trusting God. So I think the real 234 00:12:16,850 --> 00:12:20,650 S5: core feature of worry is that it really can go 235 00:12:20,690 --> 00:12:24,849 S5: away by your ability to trust God. Now, to do that, 236 00:12:24,850 --> 00:12:26,890 S5: you're going to have to look at your thoughts and 237 00:12:26,890 --> 00:12:29,330 S5: your thinking process. And what are you actually saying to 238 00:12:29,330 --> 00:12:32,570 S5: yourself about who God is and how he's going to 239 00:12:32,610 --> 00:12:35,130 S5: work in your life? So I would frame it more 240 00:12:35,170 --> 00:12:37,650 S5: of it's a lack of trust in God. 241 00:12:38,809 --> 00:12:41,339 S1: Well, Mom, if I can just pick up on what 242 00:12:41,340 --> 00:12:43,940 S1: you asked, Michael, because I think it's a crucial question. Linda, 243 00:12:43,940 --> 00:12:47,699 S1: does this not underscore the intersectionality of how we're made? 244 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:50,380 S1: So I was thinking when Michael was talking because it 245 00:12:50,380 --> 00:12:53,220 S1: was really an insightful question, that this is the intersection 246 00:12:53,220 --> 00:12:56,980 S1: between body, mind and spirit. So when we talk about 247 00:12:56,980 --> 00:12:59,660 S1: our mind gets affected when our spirit isn't right because 248 00:12:59,660 --> 00:13:03,420 S1: we haven't trusted God. And anxiety can have physical residuals 249 00:13:03,420 --> 00:13:06,819 S1: as well. So there really is this interconnectedness, is there not. 250 00:13:07,340 --> 00:13:10,180 S5: Yeah. And I really think that when we're going through 251 00:13:10,220 --> 00:13:14,100 S5: life and we're dealing with any situation, um, we are 252 00:13:14,340 --> 00:13:17,700 S5: engaging all of those things. We're engaging our I think 253 00:13:17,700 --> 00:13:20,180 S5: the trust though is really the core of it, because 254 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:24,500 S5: in your heart, you really are looking at it from 255 00:13:24,500 --> 00:13:28,900 S5: a very root perspective. Do I ultimately trust that God 256 00:13:28,900 --> 00:13:31,540 S5: is who he is and does what he says he does? 257 00:13:31,740 --> 00:13:35,220 S5: It's really trusting in the promises of God. And when 258 00:13:35,220 --> 00:13:38,500 S5: we're able to get our mind back into that trust 259 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:42,140 S5: where either we're meditating on Scripture, we're we're taking thoughts 260 00:13:42,140 --> 00:13:47,020 S5: captive that are not necessarily in line with Scripture. And 261 00:13:47,020 --> 00:13:49,420 S5: we're putting our mind on the mind of Christ, putting 262 00:13:49,420 --> 00:13:51,459 S5: on the mind of Christ as the Scripture tells us 263 00:13:51,460 --> 00:13:55,500 S5: to do. Once we trust, then worry can go away. 264 00:13:55,700 --> 00:13:58,700 S5: So the Bible does say, take your thoughts captive. Look 265 00:13:58,700 --> 00:14:01,940 S5: at your thoughts. Observe your thoughts. Look at what you're 266 00:14:01,980 --> 00:14:05,260 S5: saying to yourself, or you're saying out loud, and grab 267 00:14:05,260 --> 00:14:09,420 S5: those thoughts. Take them, confine them, and replace them with 268 00:14:09,420 --> 00:14:12,420 S5: the truth of God's Word. Now it's it's hard for 269 00:14:12,420 --> 00:14:16,580 S5: some people because they've had a lot of negative thoughts 270 00:14:16,580 --> 00:14:19,100 S5: and actions and behaviors that have been said to them. 271 00:14:19,340 --> 00:14:21,420 S5: So if you're somebody listening to this and you've been 272 00:14:21,420 --> 00:14:23,620 S5: told your whole life that you're a loser, you're never 273 00:14:23,620 --> 00:14:26,980 S5: going to make it. Nobody cares about you. Nobody would 274 00:14:26,980 --> 00:14:30,060 S5: want you. Those thoughts have been deeply embedded into your 275 00:14:30,220 --> 00:14:32,620 S5: heart and your spirit, and you have to be able 276 00:14:32,620 --> 00:14:35,940 S5: to to get those conscious and say, okay, here's what's 277 00:14:35,940 --> 00:14:38,070 S5: been said about me. And you have to work against 278 00:14:38,070 --> 00:14:40,830 S5: those thoughts, which takes a little bit of of time 279 00:14:40,830 --> 00:14:43,070 S5: and attention. So I'm just going to go back to 280 00:14:43,110 --> 00:14:46,590 S5: the core of this is trusting God and not doubting. 281 00:14:47,150 --> 00:14:49,270 S1: Excellent. By the way, just as a quick sidebar, when 282 00:14:49,270 --> 00:14:51,430 S1: you teach in school, are you allowed to fold in 283 00:14:51,590 --> 00:14:53,350 S1: the spiritual when you're teaching as well? 284 00:14:53,710 --> 00:14:57,430 S5: Oh, absolutely. Because I'm teaching at a medical school that's Christian, 285 00:14:57,750 --> 00:15:00,830 S5: which is wonderful there, which is why I'm there. Yeah, 286 00:15:00,870 --> 00:15:03,190 S5: I was I was not able to do that before. 287 00:15:03,190 --> 00:15:06,710 S5: And it was so interesting because at the secular school 288 00:15:06,710 --> 00:15:09,670 S5: that I used to medical school, I used to teach in, um, 289 00:15:09,670 --> 00:15:12,470 S5: you could bring up Buddhist thought and, and, you know, 290 00:15:12,510 --> 00:15:15,030 S5: all kinds of other religions. But anytime somebody would bring 291 00:15:15,030 --> 00:15:16,750 S5: up a Christian thought, we were told we couldn't talk 292 00:15:16,750 --> 00:15:19,150 S5: about it. It's one of the reasons why I left, 293 00:15:19,150 --> 00:15:22,430 S5: and I am now in a place where I can, um, say, 294 00:15:22,470 --> 00:15:25,910 S5: you know, my worldview affects everything I do. And so 295 00:15:26,350 --> 00:15:28,670 S5: my view of the Bible and what I how that 296 00:15:28,670 --> 00:15:31,910 S5: influences all aspects of my life is just too important 297 00:15:31,950 --> 00:15:33,950 S5: not to be able to talk about it. 298 00:15:33,990 --> 00:15:39,510 S1: I'm so glad I asked that question. What a great answer! (877) 548-3675. 299 00:15:39,550 --> 00:15:41,310 S1: That's our number. I've got some lines open. If you'd 300 00:15:41,310 --> 00:15:44,990 S1: like to ask Doctor Linda a question about worry or anxiety, 301 00:15:44,990 --> 00:15:47,910 S1: because that's our topic this hour. Marilyn wants to do that. Marilyn, 302 00:15:47,910 --> 00:15:49,790 S1: thanks for joining us and your question, please. 303 00:15:50,430 --> 00:15:54,510 S7: Hi. Hello and God bless you. I'm trying to find 304 00:15:54,510 --> 00:15:59,070 S7: out why I have become, in my old age, very 305 00:15:59,070 --> 00:16:05,790 S7: more anxious. Uh, I, I'm trying to control it. I, 306 00:16:05,830 --> 00:16:09,550 S7: I just, uh, it's difficult. 307 00:16:10,270 --> 00:16:13,070 S5: Yeah. Well, Marilyn, I would I would really need to 308 00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:15,670 S5: sit down with you and talk about all the aspects 309 00:16:15,670 --> 00:16:19,230 S5: of your life. Because as we get older, we're also 310 00:16:19,230 --> 00:16:23,869 S5: dealing with a lot of different health situations. Um, and sometimes, 311 00:16:23,910 --> 00:16:27,470 S5: you know, as we see our health declining and we see, um, 312 00:16:27,470 --> 00:16:30,390 S5: diagnoses being made and certain things, you know, maybe we're 313 00:16:30,390 --> 00:16:33,030 S5: on high blood pressure meds or we're trying to deal 314 00:16:33,150 --> 00:16:35,430 S5: with some hard issues and all the things that come 315 00:16:35,430 --> 00:16:39,830 S5: with aging, those those diseases in our body or those 316 00:16:39,830 --> 00:16:42,750 S5: conditions in our body that have to be managed and 317 00:16:42,750 --> 00:16:46,470 S5: regulated can produce some anxiety, as can the way we 318 00:16:46,470 --> 00:16:50,550 S5: think about those conditions. And a lot of people are 319 00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:55,390 S5: on medications that are necessary, like heart medications and diabetes 320 00:16:55,390 --> 00:16:58,070 S5: and those things. But the side effect of some of 321 00:16:58,070 --> 00:17:02,870 S5: those medications can also create some anxiety. So there's a 322 00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:07,149 S5: lot of factors in this. You're facing mortality. You're looking 323 00:17:07,150 --> 00:17:10,590 S5: at your life. You're thinking about your purpose and meaning. 324 00:17:10,590 --> 00:17:14,430 S5: So many factors go into that. So there's a lot 325 00:17:14,430 --> 00:17:16,750 S5: to sort of think about when you get older in 326 00:17:16,750 --> 00:17:19,230 S5: terms of what could be the root. And that is 327 00:17:19,230 --> 00:17:20,910 S5: where you have to go is what are the things 328 00:17:20,910 --> 00:17:23,429 S5: happening in my life that could be contributing to that 329 00:17:23,430 --> 00:17:24,590 S5: type of anxiety? 330 00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:31,310 S1: Thank you. Marilyn. (877) 548-3675. That's our number. We welcome your 331 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,399 S1: questions for Doctor Linda mintel on the topic of worry 332 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:58,080 S1: and anxiety. More right after this. (877) 548-3675. That is our 333 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,640 S1: number here on in the market with Janet partial. And 334 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,360 S1: we're spending the hour with Doctor Linda mintel who is 335 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,680 S1: a national expert on mental health. And our focus this 336 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,080 S1: hour is worry and anxiety. And we've all been there. Right. 337 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,600 S1: And yet the Bible gives us very clear directives on 338 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,320 S1: not to be anxious. Right. But we're supposed to let 339 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,000 S1: our requests be made known unto God not to worry 340 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,920 S1: about tomorrow. So what I love about this conversation is 341 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,720 S1: God knew our state, our sin sick, fallen state mailing 342 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,560 S1: address East of Eden and we would all struggle with 343 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,080 S1: worry and anxiety. And then God raises up wonderful teachers 344 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,240 S1: like Linda to Linda, to help us figure out exactly 345 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:36,560 S1: how we deal with this subject. So. (877) 548-3675. That's our number. 346 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,280 S1: I'm going to go back to the phones. Lisa I 347 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,480 S1: welcome you. Your question please, for Doctor Mintel. 348 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:46,240 S8: Hi. I'm wondering at what point should you consider taking medication. 349 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,560 S5: Well I think yeah, that's a great question. Um, as 350 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,400 S5: a person who's been in practice for almost 30 years, 351 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,600 S5: I always try to look at what are the root 352 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,520 S5: causes of the anxiety first. Um, because if it's a 353 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,959 S5: relationship issue, for instance, that you're having, Lisa and I'm 354 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,320 S5: not saying you are, but if it is, then it 355 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,960 S5: would be better to fix the relationship than try to 356 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,240 S5: just manage the symptom. If you have a lot of 357 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,480 S5: fears and you have a lot of what we call 358 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,360 S5: sometimes phobias, where you have a fear reaction to something, 359 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,960 S5: when you medicate yourself with a with an anti-anxiety medication, 360 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,730 S5: it actually puts the part of your brain Asleep. That 361 00:19:28,730 --> 00:19:32,170 S5: needs to learn new things. So what happens is you're 362 00:19:32,170 --> 00:19:36,050 S5: managing symptoms, but you're not learning. The brain isn't learning 363 00:19:36,050 --> 00:19:38,770 S5: a new pattern. So example like if you have a 364 00:19:38,770 --> 00:19:42,170 S5: fear of dogs, let's just say and you manage that 365 00:19:42,170 --> 00:19:45,970 S5: with a medication, your brain isn't going to learn anything new. 366 00:19:46,050 --> 00:19:50,330 S5: But if you make yourself expose yourself step by step 367 00:19:50,330 --> 00:19:53,650 S5: to that very feared object of the dog, eventually the 368 00:19:53,650 --> 00:19:57,250 S5: brain begins to learn that the dog isn't so scary 369 00:19:57,450 --> 00:20:00,330 S5: and you continue to expose yourself, expose yourself to it, 370 00:20:00,330 --> 00:20:03,730 S5: and eventually that anxiety goes away. So the answer to 371 00:20:03,770 --> 00:20:07,129 S5: that question is kind of complicated, because I have to 372 00:20:07,170 --> 00:20:10,050 S5: know what the root of the anxiety is, because, again, 373 00:20:10,050 --> 00:20:13,250 S5: if it's something like you're watching a lot of television, 374 00:20:13,250 --> 00:20:15,850 S5: you're watching the news, you're getting really hyped up on 375 00:20:15,850 --> 00:20:19,369 S5: all the crazy stuff we hear on the news these days. Um, 376 00:20:19,369 --> 00:20:21,810 S5: you're not sure what to believe. You don't know what's true. 377 00:20:22,330 --> 00:20:25,090 S5: A better fix for that would be to turn off 378 00:20:25,090 --> 00:20:27,250 S5: the news and take a break from that. I tell 379 00:20:27,250 --> 00:20:29,930 S5: that to younger people all the time about social media. 380 00:20:29,970 --> 00:20:32,450 S5: You know, if you're just getting really hyped on social media, 381 00:20:32,490 --> 00:20:34,930 S5: then just take a break from it. Turn it off. Um, 382 00:20:34,970 --> 00:20:37,050 S5: don't don't go on your your sites for a while 383 00:20:37,050 --> 00:20:39,810 S5: and see if you feel better. I also like to 384 00:20:39,810 --> 00:20:43,290 S5: look at lifestyle issues for people. So there have been 385 00:20:43,290 --> 00:20:47,850 S5: some really interesting studies, not just in anxiety, but in depression. 386 00:20:48,050 --> 00:20:50,609 S5: One one came across my desk the other day in 387 00:20:50,609 --> 00:20:53,290 S5: a in a in a journal called Medscape, or an 388 00:20:53,330 --> 00:20:56,370 S5: online site rather called Medscape. And it was a study 389 00:20:56,369 --> 00:20:59,930 S5: that someone had done for depression that said, a certain 390 00:20:59,930 --> 00:21:03,890 S5: amount of exercise every day had a better effect on 391 00:21:03,890 --> 00:21:08,050 S5: people's depression than actually an antidepressant. So I'm not telling 392 00:21:08,050 --> 00:21:10,650 S5: anybody to throw away their antidepressant if that's something that's 393 00:21:10,650 --> 00:21:14,010 S5: been helpful. But there's a whole chapter in my book 394 00:21:14,010 --> 00:21:19,770 S5: on exercise, what you're eating if you're hydrated. Are you 395 00:21:19,810 --> 00:21:24,810 S5: drinking alcohol? Are you smoking? Are you having too much 396 00:21:24,980 --> 00:21:29,020 S5: caffeine because caffeine really ramps up anxiety. Are you getting 397 00:21:29,020 --> 00:21:33,100 S5: sleep because you can be very anxious? If your sleep 398 00:21:33,100 --> 00:21:36,500 S5: isn't good over time, your body needs to sleep to 399 00:21:36,540 --> 00:21:39,899 S5: reboot the system, so to speak. And and so again, 400 00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:41,619 S5: what I try to do is look at all the 401 00:21:41,619 --> 00:21:44,540 S5: lifestyle factors and then try to figure out, well, what 402 00:21:44,540 --> 00:21:47,220 S5: is the root of this anxiety? Is it something that 403 00:21:47,220 --> 00:21:50,980 S5: needs more of a therapy or a change in lifestyle 404 00:21:50,980 --> 00:21:54,340 S5: or a behavioral difference in what we do? Is it 405 00:21:54,340 --> 00:21:57,020 S5: something we can do by grabbing our thoughts and renewing 406 00:21:57,020 --> 00:22:00,060 S5: our mind and dealing with that? And then and, and 407 00:22:00,060 --> 00:22:03,500 S5: if that's the case, I usually try those things first. Um, 408 00:22:03,500 --> 00:22:06,460 S5: before I would look at a medication. I'm not saying 409 00:22:06,460 --> 00:22:09,500 S5: that medications are wrong to take. You just don't get 410 00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:12,859 S5: the same effect. You're managing symptoms. You're not really getting 411 00:22:12,859 --> 00:22:15,020 S5: at the root of the anxiety. Mm. 412 00:22:15,540 --> 00:22:17,419 S1: Thank you Lisa, I appreciate you being a part of 413 00:22:17,420 --> 00:22:23,540 S1: this conversation. And I appreciate your question as well. (877) 548-3675 Dana, 414 00:22:23,540 --> 00:22:25,580 S1: welcome from Wisconsin. Your question please. 415 00:22:26,220 --> 00:22:28,980 S9: Yes. Thank you for taking my call. I have a question. 416 00:22:29,180 --> 00:22:31,619 S9: It just seems like for years we've been telling children 417 00:22:31,619 --> 00:22:34,820 S9: to beware of strangers. And I'm wondering if any study 418 00:22:34,820 --> 00:22:37,940 S9: has been done on the correlation between that and anxiety. 419 00:22:38,100 --> 00:22:39,859 S9: And I'll just hang up and listen. Thank you. 420 00:22:40,260 --> 00:22:40,740 S10: Thank you. 421 00:22:41,020 --> 00:22:44,260 S5: Oh, to beware. So kind of scaring them a little 422 00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:48,660 S5: bit about safety issues. Yeah. Um, yeah. That's a real 423 00:22:48,660 --> 00:22:52,100 S5: fine balance isn't it? Because, um, kids have been in a, 424 00:22:52,100 --> 00:22:55,020 S5: they've seen. Okay, here's where I think the difference is, 425 00:22:55,340 --> 00:22:59,580 S5: I think kids, because of television, mostly on social media, 426 00:22:59,820 --> 00:23:03,300 S5: have seen a lot of dangerous situations because people post 427 00:23:03,300 --> 00:23:06,580 S5: things all the time. And it's it's constantly in the 428 00:23:06,580 --> 00:23:10,500 S5: news about abductions and, um, trafficking and these are all 429 00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:13,459 S5: very real things. So I think you have to be 430 00:23:13,460 --> 00:23:16,740 S5: really careful on how you talk to kids about the 431 00:23:16,740 --> 00:23:19,419 S5: scary things that are, that are that they need to 432 00:23:19,420 --> 00:23:22,060 S5: be vigilant about. Right. So I talk to my kids. 433 00:23:22,060 --> 00:23:24,620 S5: When you're when you're walking home from school, if somebody 434 00:23:24,660 --> 00:23:26,660 S5: you know tries to have you come in their car 435 00:23:26,660 --> 00:23:28,780 S5: and you don't want to ever do that, you don't 436 00:23:28,780 --> 00:23:31,980 S5: know the person, don't go with them. Um, those kinds 437 00:23:31,980 --> 00:23:34,340 S5: of things, it's like preparing them for the things that 438 00:23:34,340 --> 00:23:37,500 S5: they need to do to be safe. Um, but you 439 00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:41,459 S5: don't want to be overly, um, you know, overly going 440 00:23:41,460 --> 00:23:45,620 S5: over and over and over constantly the dangers because that 441 00:23:45,619 --> 00:23:49,660 S5: makes people then anxious about the dangers. They're real, they're there. 442 00:23:49,780 --> 00:23:52,220 S5: But the amount that we, we sort of focus on 443 00:23:52,260 --> 00:23:56,300 S5: that can either, um, make our anxiety rise or it 444 00:23:56,300 --> 00:23:58,460 S5: can be manageable. So it's a great question. 445 00:23:59,340 --> 00:24:03,780 S1: (877) 548-3675. That is our number here on in the market 446 00:24:03,780 --> 00:24:06,820 S1: with Janet Parshall. I can't believe how fast these conversations 447 00:24:06,859 --> 00:24:09,300 S1: go with Linda, but they always do. So I'm glad 448 00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:11,340 S1: we have another back half that we can talk with 449 00:24:11,340 --> 00:24:14,619 S1: you and your questions about anxiety and worry. And by 450 00:24:14,619 --> 00:24:16,859 S1: the way, I've got a great resource for you. Linda 451 00:24:16,859 --> 00:24:18,980 S1: wrote it recently. It's one of her more recent books. 452 00:24:18,980 --> 00:24:21,989 S1: It's called Hope and healing for anxiety A Guide to 453 00:24:22,030 --> 00:24:25,390 S1: Manage Stress and Overcome Anxiety. It's literally a hands on 454 00:24:25,390 --> 00:24:27,910 S1: book to help you work through this. I strongly recommend 455 00:24:27,910 --> 00:24:29,710 S1: it to you. It's right there on the information page 456 00:24:29,710 --> 00:24:32,590 S1: and a link directly to her website, chock full of 457 00:24:32,590 --> 00:24:36,190 S1: great information. More with Linda and your questions right after this. 458 00:24:50,910 --> 00:24:53,070 S1: The Bible says the Word of God illuminates our walk 459 00:24:53,109 --> 00:24:55,030 S1: through life. It's a lamp to our feet and a 460 00:24:55,030 --> 00:24:57,390 S1: light to our path. Without it, we stumble and fall 461 00:24:57,630 --> 00:24:59,750 S1: in the market with Janet Partial is designed to help 462 00:24:59,750 --> 00:25:01,270 S1: you look at the headlines of the day through the 463 00:25:01,270 --> 00:25:03,830 S1: lens of Scripture. When you become a partial partner, you 464 00:25:03,869 --> 00:25:06,750 S1: help to make this broadcast possible, and as a partial partner, 465 00:25:06,750 --> 00:25:09,629 S1: you'll receive exclusive benefits. So why not become a partial 466 00:25:09,630 --> 00:25:13,389 S1: partner today? Call 877 Janet 58 or go to in 467 00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:21,950 S1: the market with Janet Parshall. Our phone number is (877) 548-3675. 468 00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:23,670 S1: And I share that with you, because I'd love any 469 00:25:23,670 --> 00:25:26,710 S1: question you have on the topics of anxiety and worry. 470 00:25:26,910 --> 00:25:29,310 S1: Doctor Linda mintel is in the house and she is 471 00:25:29,310 --> 00:25:32,270 S1: our guest. She, by the way, is a national expert 472 00:25:32,270 --> 00:25:35,230 S1: on mental health. She's written a bunch of books, including 473 00:25:35,230 --> 00:25:38,470 S1: a more recent one called Hope and healing for anxiety 474 00:25:38,750 --> 00:25:41,709 S1: A Guide to Manage Stress and Overcome Anxiety. And on 475 00:25:41,710 --> 00:25:44,390 S1: her blog, she's written a very important piece that's very 476 00:25:44,430 --> 00:25:47,390 S1: hands on. Her blogs are always very pragmatic. Uh, this 477 00:25:47,390 --> 00:25:51,030 S1: one deals with three self habits that actually fuel anxiety. 478 00:25:51,030 --> 00:25:52,430 S1: So we want to make sure we're not putting any 479 00:25:52,430 --> 00:25:54,189 S1: of those in our life as well. So let me 480 00:25:54,190 --> 00:25:55,469 S1: go back to the phones because a lot of you 481 00:25:55,470 --> 00:25:57,790 S1: have questions. As is always the case when Linda comes 482 00:25:57,790 --> 00:25:59,949 S1: to visit Billy, I'm going to welcome you from Ohio. 483 00:25:59,950 --> 00:26:02,230 S1: Thanks for being here. And we'll take your question, please. 484 00:26:03,710 --> 00:26:07,430 S11: Thanks for taking my call. Uh, I, I was just wondering. 485 00:26:07,790 --> 00:26:10,670 S11: I've heard my whole I've dealt with it anxiety and 486 00:26:10,670 --> 00:26:13,990 S11: depression my whole life, but is there a difference between 487 00:26:13,990 --> 00:26:20,800 S11: medical or clinical anxiety and just mainly anxiety due to worry. 488 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,640 S5: The clinical definition, Billy, is always about two things. It's 489 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,560 S5: always about whether it's impairing your life. So if something 490 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,920 S5: if you have if you have anxiety or depression and 491 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,080 S5: it's getting in the way of you doing your job, 492 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,960 S5: being with your family, in relationships, at work, if it's 493 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,080 S5: impairing in some way, then it becomes more clinical or 494 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,920 S5: if it's just really distressing you. So, you know, occasionally 495 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,040 S5: people have worried thoughts and I try when I teach 496 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,760 S5: the difference to the students, I say, you know, everybody 497 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,399 S5: has an anxious thought now and then. People get worried about, 498 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,280 S5: you know, things when they come up, you might be 499 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,640 S5: worried about your finances or something like that. But when 500 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,199 S5: it becomes distressing and when it becomes or impairing, that's 501 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,360 S5: when it moves into a clinical realm. So that's where 502 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,240 S5: we begin to see people then. But even if it's 503 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,440 S5: not impairing and even it's not distressing, I am. I've 504 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,120 S5: personally worked on this most of my life, that when 505 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,080 S5: I start to feel worried or anxious, I got to 506 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,400 S5: go back to what the scripture says. I've got to 507 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,600 S5: cast my cares on Christ. I've got to take those 508 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,560 S5: thoughts captive. I've got to remember the promises of God, 509 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,720 S5: and I have to put that truth into my mind, 510 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,440 S5: because you can't really erase thoughts that are really negative, 511 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,160 S5: but you can replace them in the brain. And the 512 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,240 S5: more that you focus on the truth and those those 513 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,920 S5: things that God says in His Word, the more that 514 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,119 S5: gets ingrained in your brain, and that's going to become 515 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,120 S5: the thoughts that you have over time. So it's one 516 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,000 S5: of the reasons why the Scripture says, think on these things. 517 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,840 S5: And then there's a whole list of things being, you know, 518 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:14,010 S5: positive and, uh, praiseworthy and all the different, uh. Uh, 519 00:28:14,530 --> 00:28:16,850 S5: words that, that they use in that scripture. There's a 520 00:28:16,850 --> 00:28:19,170 S5: word for that. Because if you focus the brain on 521 00:28:19,170 --> 00:28:22,850 S5: those positive things, it's going to strengthen those neural pathways 522 00:28:22,850 --> 00:28:25,169 S5: in your brain, and it's going to come up quicker. 523 00:28:25,450 --> 00:28:29,010 S5: But if you constantly ruminate and think about worried things, 524 00:28:29,010 --> 00:28:31,730 S5: you're you're basically you got to think of it like 525 00:28:31,730 --> 00:28:34,010 S5: we just had well, we just we know that Winter 526 00:28:34,010 --> 00:28:37,290 S5: Olympics happen right? When we see the Winter Olympics, there's skiers. 527 00:28:37,290 --> 00:28:40,530 S5: And when they go down those paths, they're skiing on 528 00:28:40,530 --> 00:28:43,810 S5: the same place over and over, and they're carving these, 529 00:28:44,010 --> 00:28:46,850 S5: these pathways. And the more people are on it, the 530 00:28:46,850 --> 00:28:50,090 S5: faster they go. That's what happens in your brain. You 531 00:28:50,090 --> 00:28:52,690 S5: have these pathways in your brain, and the more you 532 00:28:52,690 --> 00:28:56,330 S5: think about negative things, the more you rehearse your worries, 533 00:28:56,450 --> 00:28:58,930 S5: the more you're carving a path in your brain that 534 00:28:58,930 --> 00:29:01,810 S5: can go fast to that negative stuff. So you've got 535 00:29:01,810 --> 00:29:03,330 S5: to make a change and you've got to be able 536 00:29:03,330 --> 00:29:05,850 S5: to change that. So even if this isn't at a 537 00:29:05,850 --> 00:29:09,370 S5: clinical level, I think Scripture tells us we got to 538 00:29:09,410 --> 00:29:13,250 S5: work on those thoughts and not be anxious about anything, 539 00:29:13,250 --> 00:29:16,490 S5: and it is possible to do by the things that 540 00:29:16,490 --> 00:29:18,330 S5: I talk about in this book and that are that 541 00:29:18,330 --> 00:29:22,050 S5: are Scripture based as well as based in, um, psychology. 542 00:29:22,490 --> 00:29:22,850 S10: Um. 543 00:29:23,210 --> 00:29:25,370 S1: Billy, thank you. Hope that's an encouragement to you. I 544 00:29:25,370 --> 00:29:28,610 S1: appreciate you being here. Patty and Gloria, I'm going to 545 00:29:28,650 --> 00:29:33,450 S1: amalgamate your two questions together because they're both very related. Interestingly, Patty, 546 00:29:33,490 --> 00:29:35,930 S1: you asked, how do you address anxiety over the fear 547 00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:39,970 S1: of losing a family member? Present tense Gloria in Texas 548 00:29:40,010 --> 00:29:42,890 S1: asks how to deal with anxiety related to the passing 549 00:29:42,930 --> 00:29:45,810 S1: of a loved one, present or past tense. So those 550 00:29:45,810 --> 00:29:46,610 S1: two are combined. 551 00:29:47,090 --> 00:29:50,090 S5: Yeah. And so I have personal experience with this. Um, 552 00:29:50,090 --> 00:29:52,250 S5: those of you who listen to Janet all the time 553 00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:55,930 S5: know my my personal story of losing my brother at, uh, 554 00:29:55,930 --> 00:29:59,170 S5: when I was going off to the University of Michigan, um, 555 00:29:59,210 --> 00:30:02,650 S5: he was killed by a terrorist bomb. And so I 556 00:30:02,650 --> 00:30:07,530 S5: was very fearful about losing other people in my life. Um, I, 557 00:30:07,890 --> 00:30:11,090 S5: I really did think, you know. Well, anything can happen. 558 00:30:11,090 --> 00:30:14,250 S5: It made no sense. You know, terrorism doesn't make sense 559 00:30:14,250 --> 00:30:16,210 S5: when you're a victim of that. You're in the wrong 560 00:30:16,210 --> 00:30:18,890 S5: place at the wrong time or whatever. You start to 561 00:30:18,930 --> 00:30:22,650 S5: think all that. But when that happens, it is easy 562 00:30:22,650 --> 00:30:26,970 S5: then to begin to think about it could happen again, 563 00:30:27,010 --> 00:30:29,490 S5: or that somebody in your life has died. And my 564 00:30:29,490 --> 00:30:34,490 S5: mom became very anxious about me flying. She needed a 565 00:30:34,530 --> 00:30:38,050 S5: lot of reassurance, always about that. I was okay and 566 00:30:38,050 --> 00:30:41,890 S5: we really had to work through those things. Now, you know, 567 00:30:41,930 --> 00:30:44,610 S5: I had to look at what am I fearful of? 568 00:30:44,970 --> 00:30:48,050 S5: What is the likelihood? I mean, it isn't the solution 569 00:30:48,050 --> 00:30:49,850 S5: to say, well, what is the likelihood that I too 570 00:30:49,890 --> 00:30:52,090 S5: would be killed on a terrorist bomb? It's very unlikely. 571 00:30:52,090 --> 00:30:54,890 S5: But you do have those thoughts. You really do have 572 00:30:54,890 --> 00:30:58,209 S5: to start to be more rational about what can happen. 573 00:30:58,210 --> 00:31:01,850 S5: And you have to go back to the word. And 574 00:31:01,850 --> 00:31:05,370 S5: I don't understand why these bad things happen. I really don't, 575 00:31:05,650 --> 00:31:07,330 S5: and I don't know that I have a good answer 576 00:31:07,330 --> 00:31:10,460 S5: for that until I get to heaven. But I. I 577 00:31:10,660 --> 00:31:13,300 S5: cannot live in fear. I mean, the scripture is really 578 00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:16,060 S5: clear about we're not supposed to live in fear. We're 579 00:31:16,060 --> 00:31:19,220 S5: not given a spirit of fear. We're given. We're given 580 00:31:19,220 --> 00:31:22,780 S5: a sound mind when we're in Christ. And so a 581 00:31:22,780 --> 00:31:25,420 S5: lot of it is when those anxious thoughts come and 582 00:31:25,420 --> 00:31:29,020 S5: they come, they're natural. They come up. But when they 583 00:31:29,060 --> 00:31:31,300 S5: come again, you got to grab them and you've got 584 00:31:31,340 --> 00:31:34,340 S5: to start working to change those and say, okay, God, 585 00:31:34,740 --> 00:31:38,380 S5: I'm feeling really anxious. Um, there's a difference between grieving 586 00:31:38,540 --> 00:31:42,300 S5: and being anxious. Grieving is normal. Grieving needs to happen. 587 00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:45,140 S5: Grieving is a part of this. But when it starts 588 00:31:45,140 --> 00:31:48,860 S5: to move into that impairment and that or distress that 589 00:31:48,860 --> 00:31:51,620 S5: you're having after a period of time of what we 590 00:31:51,620 --> 00:31:54,500 S5: would call healthy grieving, then you have to start looking 591 00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:59,540 S5: at your thoughts because your thoughts are typically triggering those emotions, 592 00:31:59,540 --> 00:32:02,700 S5: that emotion of anxiety. So you have to think, what 593 00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:05,700 S5: am I saying to myself? What are other people saying? 594 00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:09,060 S5: And do I really believe that the promises of God, 595 00:32:09,060 --> 00:32:12,380 S5: is he really a help in my time of trouble? 596 00:32:12,940 --> 00:32:15,900 S5: Can I cast my cares on God and give him 597 00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:19,260 S5: that burden? Is is is he willing to take that 598 00:32:19,260 --> 00:32:23,140 S5: from me? Doesn't mean we forget what happened. Doesn't mean that, 599 00:32:23,180 --> 00:32:26,380 S5: you know, we don't have sadness at times. Still, there 600 00:32:26,380 --> 00:32:28,580 S5: are moments in my life, even this many years later, 601 00:32:28,580 --> 00:32:31,260 S5: where I feel sad that my brother isn't with me. 602 00:32:31,660 --> 00:32:33,620 S5: But we don't want it to get to the point 603 00:32:33,620 --> 00:32:37,460 S5: where it's grabbing us and it's controlling our lives. And 604 00:32:37,460 --> 00:32:41,180 S5: so again, it's all this work on what are you thinking? 605 00:32:41,180 --> 00:32:43,940 S5: What are you feeling? How do you calm your body? 606 00:32:43,940 --> 00:32:46,340 S5: And then how do you calm your mind? And you 607 00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:49,980 S5: do that a lot? The scriptures are very, very helpful 608 00:32:49,980 --> 00:32:52,300 S5: in that process. But there are also some other things 609 00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:54,580 S5: that you can do to calm your your body and 610 00:32:54,580 --> 00:32:56,820 S5: your mind. And what I did in the book is 611 00:32:56,820 --> 00:32:59,340 S5: I put if you're if your anxiety is more in 612 00:32:59,340 --> 00:33:01,660 S5: your mind, here are a whole bunch of things that 613 00:33:01,660 --> 00:33:04,660 S5: you can do. If your anxiety is more in your body. First, 614 00:33:04,660 --> 00:33:06,910 S5: you got to calm your body down before you can 615 00:33:06,910 --> 00:33:09,150 S5: ever work on your mind, because your body will just 616 00:33:09,150 --> 00:33:12,510 S5: hijack any kind of thoughts if you can't calm your body. 617 00:33:12,510 --> 00:33:15,590 S5: So there are calming strategies, things that we know that 618 00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:18,510 S5: can help. Uh, I'll give you a really easy one 619 00:33:18,510 --> 00:33:21,950 S5: that that Janet we've talked about before, singing in a choir. 620 00:33:22,110 --> 00:33:22,550 S1: Right. 621 00:33:22,590 --> 00:33:25,229 S5: And, uh, and I got texted by my old choir 622 00:33:25,230 --> 00:33:27,990 S5: member from Virginia. She said she's living in Ohio now. 623 00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:30,910 S5: She can hear Moody finally again. And she's listening today. 624 00:33:30,910 --> 00:33:33,870 S5: So shout out to Connie in Ohio. But, um, we 625 00:33:33,910 --> 00:33:36,630 S5: were in the choir together. And it's true, when we 626 00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:40,510 S5: were anxious, you go and you sing that beautiful music. 627 00:33:40,750 --> 00:33:44,910 S5: And singing is a way of focusing your mind, especially 628 00:33:44,910 --> 00:33:48,270 S5: on those lyrics. But it's a stress reducer, so there's 629 00:33:48,270 --> 00:33:50,070 S5: a lot we can do in our life to really 630 00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:53,430 S5: take down the stress, take down, um, the reactions we're 631 00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:56,510 S5: having in our body, calming ourselves and then looking at 632 00:33:56,510 --> 00:33:58,630 S5: our thoughts and then working on those thoughts. 633 00:33:58,950 --> 00:34:01,910 S1: Mm. Great answer. Patty and Gloria, thank you for letting 634 00:34:01,910 --> 00:34:04,310 S1: me blend your two questions together. But they were so 635 00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:06,550 S1: closely related I thought it would help that way. So 636 00:34:06,550 --> 00:34:08,870 S1: thank you. Kelly, let me turn to you in Pennsylvania, 637 00:34:08,870 --> 00:34:11,510 S1: if I can, please. Thanks for your patience and your question, please. 638 00:34:13,070 --> 00:34:18,710 S12: Yes. My question was, um, about losing feeling like I'm 639 00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:20,950 S12: losing my identity with my age. 640 00:34:21,710 --> 00:34:22,070 S1: Mm. 641 00:34:22,670 --> 00:34:27,910 S5: Yeah. Um, I'm I'm in that stage, too. So as 642 00:34:27,910 --> 00:34:31,430 S5: I get older and, uh, it is a very sad 643 00:34:31,469 --> 00:34:34,910 S5: kind of thing that in American culture, um, people that 644 00:34:34,910 --> 00:34:39,190 S5: are elderly, that are senior, whatever they call us these days, um, 645 00:34:39,350 --> 00:34:41,750 S5: you know, we we have a lot of wisdom and 646 00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:43,989 S5: we have a lot that we can give. And, you know, 647 00:34:44,030 --> 00:34:47,910 S5: the Bible talks about the older people mentoring the younger people. 648 00:34:48,270 --> 00:34:50,790 S5: And so, um, part of it is you have a 649 00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:55,230 S5: lot of life experience that you have. And I would 650 00:34:55,230 --> 00:34:58,230 S5: try to find an outlet for that, really someplace in 651 00:34:58,230 --> 00:35:00,230 S5: the church where you could be part of a mentoring 652 00:35:00,230 --> 00:35:03,800 S5: group where you could, um, you know, work with other people. 653 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,839 S5: Kind of a give back stage in your life where 654 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,000 S5: maybe you're not in a job. A lot of people 655 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,080 S5: define themselves by their work. Um, but we have to 656 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,520 S5: define ourselves by who we are in Christ. And that 657 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,000 S5: never changes. We're a child of God. And as long 658 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,480 S5: as you're breathing on this earth, God has something for 659 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,759 S5: you to do. Whether that's to become an intercessory prayer warrior, 660 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,399 S5: whether that's to make peace in your family, whether that's 661 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,160 S5: to mentor a younger generation. I think you just have 662 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,200 S5: to find some things that continue to give you purpose 663 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,600 S5: and meaning in life. Because when we don't have that, 664 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,319 S5: and we do start to lose the sense of who 665 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,160 S5: we are, that is when anxiety can creep in. So 666 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,080 S5: maybe those are a few ideas that could help. 667 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,720 S1: And let me give you a verse of encouragement, Kelly, 668 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,960 S1: if I can, because the Bible talks a lot about aging, 669 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,440 S1: by the way. It talks about weak hands and feeble knees. 670 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,680 S1: It talks about gray hair. But in Psalm 9214 it 671 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,719 S1: said they will still bear fruit in old age. They 672 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,279 S1: will stay fresh and green. So age is just a 673 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,760 S1: number like the ad says on TV. And honey, yours 674 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,520 S1: and mine is unlisted. We're going to take a break. 675 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:14,600 S1: Doctor Linda mintel is with us. Our number is 87754836758775483675. 676 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,960 S1: The topic worry and anxiety. We're all prey to that, 677 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,080 S1: aren't we? We're going to get more great counsel and 678 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,200 S1: answers to your questions with Doctor Linda mintel right after this. 679 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,360 S1: Back to the phones at (877) 548-3675. Doctor Linda mintel is 680 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,000 S1: our guest. And our topic is worry and anxiety. Susanna, 681 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,480 S1: thanks for joining us. Your question now, please, for Doctor 682 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,280 S1: Linda mintel. 683 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,650 S13: Well, thank you so much for taking my call. Many 684 00:37:00,650 --> 00:37:03,569 S13: years ago, I was diagnosed. I kind of knew it, but, 685 00:37:03,610 --> 00:37:06,010 S13: you know, you don't want to actually, as an adult, 686 00:37:06,010 --> 00:37:10,010 S13: think about it too much. But I have A.D.D. and, uh, 687 00:37:10,489 --> 00:37:15,250 S13: but also anxiety. So it's kind of difficult to. I 688 00:37:15,250 --> 00:37:18,009 S13: don't take anything. I just get I make sure I 689 00:37:18,010 --> 00:37:19,970 S13: get out of bed every day. I try to go outside. 690 00:37:19,969 --> 00:37:22,410 S13: Every day I walk my dog. I do what I 691 00:37:22,410 --> 00:37:26,810 S13: know is good. Listen to Christian music. But I do 692 00:37:26,850 --> 00:37:28,930 S13: struggle with anxiety. Mhm. 693 00:37:30,610 --> 00:37:33,970 S5: Yeah. That's a common, uh, what we call a comorbidity, 694 00:37:33,969 --> 00:37:38,170 S5: which means they just go together. Anxiety and um, attention 695 00:37:38,170 --> 00:37:43,049 S5: deficit hyperactivity disorder, the ADHD. Um, because, you know, when 696 00:37:43,050 --> 00:37:46,169 S5: your brain is having trouble focusing and it keeps kind 697 00:37:46,170 --> 00:37:48,529 S5: of moving all over the place, it does make it 698 00:37:48,530 --> 00:37:51,290 S5: harder to remember things, to focus on something to get 699 00:37:51,290 --> 00:37:54,569 S5: things done, all of those things. Time management makes a 700 00:37:54,610 --> 00:37:57,489 S5: lot of people anxious when they're when they don't have 701 00:37:57,489 --> 00:38:00,330 S5: very good time management. That's a really top characteristic of 702 00:38:00,330 --> 00:38:04,450 S5: people with ADHD and managing budgets and all the things 703 00:38:04,450 --> 00:38:06,210 S5: that you have to do in life. So there's a 704 00:38:06,210 --> 00:38:10,290 S5: lot of reasons why people with that diagnosis do sometimes 705 00:38:10,290 --> 00:38:13,530 S5: have co-occurring anxiety in there. But I think you're doing 706 00:38:13,530 --> 00:38:17,170 S5: a lot of the the lifestyle things which you talked about. Um, 707 00:38:17,250 --> 00:38:20,089 S5: one that we haven't talked about, you mentioned getting out 708 00:38:20,090 --> 00:38:23,690 S5: in nature. That is a really big help for reducing 709 00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:27,290 S5: stress and walking your dog, having a pet. There's a 710 00:38:27,290 --> 00:38:31,170 S5: lot of studies that say pets bring down anxiety, especially 711 00:38:31,170 --> 00:38:34,129 S5: in people that are older, but in all ages, for 712 00:38:34,170 --> 00:38:37,529 S5: that matter, and looking at your diet, you know, but 713 00:38:37,530 --> 00:38:41,489 S5: there's another one of gratitude. And so when people just 714 00:38:41,489 --> 00:38:43,810 S5: wake up. Um, there was a study done at a 715 00:38:43,810 --> 00:38:48,130 S5: major corporation where they were having a really bad attitude 716 00:38:48,130 --> 00:38:51,770 S5: in their corporation, and they they made everybody write an 717 00:38:51,770 --> 00:38:55,009 S5: email every morning saying something that they were grateful to 718 00:38:55,050 --> 00:38:58,089 S5: to another person and it just changed the atmosphere of 719 00:38:58,090 --> 00:39:00,890 S5: the corporation. And so the same thing happens to us. 720 00:39:00,890 --> 00:39:02,569 S5: We wake up in the morning if we start our 721 00:39:02,570 --> 00:39:05,609 S5: day and we end our day with three things that 722 00:39:05,610 --> 00:39:08,730 S5: we're grateful for in our life, and we again focus 723 00:39:08,730 --> 00:39:12,770 S5: the brain on the things that are good and noteworthy. Um, 724 00:39:12,810 --> 00:39:16,650 S5: that is a way to also combat stress and to 725 00:39:16,690 --> 00:39:18,770 S5: deal with things. So I like the fact that you're 726 00:39:18,770 --> 00:39:20,890 S5: doing all those things. Um, and when you start to 727 00:39:20,890 --> 00:39:24,489 S5: feel triggered by anxiety, maybe you just try to, uh, 728 00:39:24,489 --> 00:39:26,730 S5: do one of these other things or do some deep 729 00:39:26,730 --> 00:39:30,529 S5: breathing even. That is Janet. That is one of the 730 00:39:30,530 --> 00:39:32,810 S5: most that is one of the best things people can 731 00:39:32,810 --> 00:39:35,330 S5: do when they start to feel anxious is just take 732 00:39:35,330 --> 00:39:41,090 S5: a number of deep breaths inhaling on four, exhaling on four, 733 00:39:41,130 --> 00:39:44,009 S5: doing that repeatedly. It's called box breathing because it looks 734 00:39:44,010 --> 00:39:46,930 S5: like a box because you're doing four, four, four, four. 735 00:39:47,410 --> 00:39:49,770 S5: And so a lot of times that will just calm 736 00:39:49,770 --> 00:39:52,489 S5: the body down. And a lot of what you need 737 00:39:52,489 --> 00:39:56,500 S5: to do with anxiety is calm your body. And so 738 00:39:56,820 --> 00:40:00,779 S5: massage music that's more, you know, in terms of your 739 00:40:00,780 --> 00:40:03,660 S5: inner ear that actually affects your vagus nerve, which is 740 00:40:03,660 --> 00:40:06,180 S5: part of the calming system in the body. So there's 741 00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:09,100 S5: a lot of lifestyle things that people can do, like 742 00:40:09,140 --> 00:40:11,940 S5: our caller is talking about that can be very helpful. 743 00:40:12,260 --> 00:40:14,259 S1: Can I linger on the box breathing for a minute? 744 00:40:14,260 --> 00:40:16,180 S1: Because I don't want people to think that's just weird 745 00:40:16,180 --> 00:40:20,540 S1: eastern mysticism stuff. We are fearfully and wonderfully made, and 746 00:40:20,540 --> 00:40:23,739 S1: there's just something about what happens to the body chemically, 747 00:40:23,739 --> 00:40:27,299 S1: physiologically when you stop and you do this breathing. In fact, 748 00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:29,100 S1: I have laid in bed at night, Linda, when the 749 00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,420 S1: brain just won't turn off. And I've heard your voice 750 00:40:31,420 --> 00:40:35,060 S1: saying that sometimes one of the ways to handle sleeplessness 751 00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:37,900 S1: and anxiety at night is to be repetitive. So the 752 00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:41,220 S1: world will say, count sheep count backwards from 100. And 753 00:40:41,219 --> 00:40:43,540 S1: you said, and I've never forgotten it, you just say 754 00:40:43,540 --> 00:40:46,540 S1: the name of Jesus over and over and over again. 755 00:40:46,540 --> 00:40:49,739 S1: And I have done that since our conversation. But talk 756 00:40:49,739 --> 00:40:52,900 S1: to my friends about how the body is physiologically impacted 757 00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:55,740 S1: by this specific controlled breathing method. 758 00:40:56,340 --> 00:41:00,220 S5: Yeah. So what happens is anxiety raises our, our, um, 759 00:41:00,219 --> 00:41:03,620 S5: fear responses. And when our body gets activated with stress. 760 00:41:03,620 --> 00:41:05,660 S5: So that's where we want to, you know, fight flight 761 00:41:05,660 --> 00:41:08,979 S5: or freeze. We just get activated and then everything gets 762 00:41:08,980 --> 00:41:12,100 S5: real real tense. And we have this, you know, rapid 763 00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:14,660 S5: breathing and palpitations and sweating and all the things that 764 00:41:14,660 --> 00:41:18,220 S5: come along with anxiety and and panic. But when you 765 00:41:18,460 --> 00:41:21,060 S5: slow it down by the breathing, if you just take 766 00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:24,380 S5: in those breaths and you do that over and over, 767 00:41:24,380 --> 00:41:28,460 S5: it really is incompatible with that state the way God 768 00:41:28,460 --> 00:41:32,620 S5: made your autonomic nervous system. It can't do both. So 769 00:41:32,620 --> 00:41:36,180 S5: when you when you do that breathing, it forces what's 770 00:41:36,180 --> 00:41:39,620 S5: called the parasympathetic system in your body to calm down. 771 00:41:39,660 --> 00:41:42,620 S5: It calms that sympathetic. So it brings you back into 772 00:41:42,620 --> 00:41:46,100 S5: a state of calm or what we would call homeostasis 773 00:41:46,140 --> 00:41:49,620 S5: in medicine. So it really is the way God designed 774 00:41:49,620 --> 00:41:52,270 S5: our system to work. I mean, think about it. Back 775 00:41:52,270 --> 00:41:54,549 S5: in the day, they didn't have the stuff that we 776 00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:58,150 S5: have today to sort of relax. But your body is 777 00:41:58,150 --> 00:42:03,590 S5: designed to if you stop, you breathe, you imagine Christ, 778 00:42:03,790 --> 00:42:06,469 S5: you focus your mind on the mind of Christ. This 779 00:42:06,469 --> 00:42:09,989 S5: is Christian mindfulness. This is not emptying your mind like 780 00:42:09,989 --> 00:42:13,629 S5: Buddhist stuff. We don't do that. We we fill our 781 00:42:13,630 --> 00:42:15,750 S5: mind with the mind of Christ. Which is where I 782 00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:18,470 S5: started to say the name of Jesus like you talked about. 783 00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:22,509 S5: I was focusing my mind on Christ, filling my mind 784 00:42:22,510 --> 00:42:27,750 S5: with Christ, his goodness, his mercy, his you know his. 785 00:42:27,989 --> 00:42:30,910 S5: He can provide all the names of God. Sometimes I 786 00:42:30,910 --> 00:42:34,509 S5: run through those that he's my provider. He's my banner. 787 00:42:34,510 --> 00:42:37,069 S5: All those things that that we begin to. And when 788 00:42:37,070 --> 00:42:40,630 S5: you do that, your mind and body are connected. It 789 00:42:40,670 --> 00:42:43,910 S5: actually affects that vagus nerve that's in your body that 790 00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:48,190 S5: helps you calm. So again, it's not eastern. There's nothing 791 00:42:48,190 --> 00:42:51,430 S5: they cooperate. They co-opted it into that. It's always attached 792 00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:54,350 S5: to this other stuff, but it's really the design of 793 00:42:54,350 --> 00:42:56,870 S5: the body. And that's one of the things that you 794 00:42:56,870 --> 00:43:00,390 S5: can do when you get into, when you get really activated, 795 00:43:00,390 --> 00:43:03,630 S5: you're really stressed and you're really, really anxious. There are 796 00:43:03,630 --> 00:43:06,430 S5: some hacks that I'll give you in the book where 797 00:43:06,430 --> 00:43:09,189 S5: you can calm your body down, and then you have 798 00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:11,069 S5: a chance to think and to do the things that 799 00:43:11,070 --> 00:43:13,510 S5: you need to do to stay calm. So a lot 800 00:43:13,550 --> 00:43:18,109 S5: of help, both physically, mentally and spiritually, that we can 801 00:43:18,110 --> 00:43:21,310 S5: do to be anxious about nothing is possible. 802 00:43:21,350 --> 00:43:24,350 S1: Wow. Can I touch quickly? And I've got 60s here 803 00:43:24,350 --> 00:43:26,470 S1: in the article because I've referenced it, but we haven't 804 00:43:26,469 --> 00:43:28,350 S1: discussed it. Three things that you can do to stop 805 00:43:28,350 --> 00:43:32,069 S1: self fueling. You say extreme or all or nothing. Thinking 806 00:43:32,190 --> 00:43:36,790 S1: is one. Avoiding anything that feels anxious and constant reassurance, 807 00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:39,670 S1: seeking people and people pleasing. Talk to me about that. 808 00:43:40,510 --> 00:43:43,510 S5: So just knowing who you are, not doing things because 809 00:43:43,550 --> 00:43:46,029 S5: other people you don't you don't, you don't focus your 810 00:43:46,030 --> 00:43:49,200 S5: life that way. Focus it on Christ and what Christ 811 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,319 S5: has given you for the day, and what your purpose is, 812 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,440 S5: not what everybody else thinks you should be doing. 813 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,640 S1: Oh, excellent, Linda. Thank you. That conversation was so fulfilling 814 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,319 S1: and so encouraging, and I want to go back to 815 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,280 S1: the resource again. You got some wonderful, wonderful suggestions here 816 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,879 S1: on dealing with worry and anxiety. But again, this hands 817 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,440 S1: on workbook, one of Linda's newer books, it's on our 818 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,520 S1: information page. It's called Hope and healing for anxiety A 819 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,440 S1: guide to Manage Stress and Overcome Anxiety. So just go 820 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,320 S1: to In the Market with Janet Parshall under the summation 821 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,480 S1: of the hour. There's a red box. It says program 822 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,319 S1: details and audio. Click that on takes you to the 823 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,200 S1: information page. Much longer bio for Linda, a link to 824 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,439 S1: her website, underneath her bio and on the right hand 825 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,640 S1: side you can click on through to get your way 826 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,399 S1: to purchasing the book. Linda, thank you as always for 827 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,759 S1: wonderful conversation and thank you friends for great questions. We'll 828 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,320 S1: see you next time on In the Market with Janet Parshall.