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S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl

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S2: Practical from the Bible. Tips and tricks to kill. Not

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S1: Delivering the truth daily.

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S4: All of my attempts to, you know, prop myself up

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S2: The gospel changes everything.

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S5: Freedom in Christ. Man, it's like that backpack of cement

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S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl

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S1: and crew. Big big, big discovery. Big discovery.

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S4: Well, good morning to you, too.

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S6: Yep. Welcome aboard. Yeah. Good morning everybody.

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S4: What a strange way to start a conversation.

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S6: Big discovery. I do that a lot.

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S4: You just walk into your house?

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S4: Big discovery.

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S6: No, I do that. I do that a lot. I've

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S6: In good times and spontaneous times. Always on my mind forevermore.

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S4: Okay, so what's the big discovery?

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S6: Big discovery is this. We've got a new benchmark for

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S6: He's going to become metaphor man. What we should do

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S6: Boy, we've been having some AI experts this week. Ali.

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S7: All right. Well, Glu is a technology company that serves

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S4: Thanks. It's been a joy glue developer. AI researcher formerly

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S6: other parts of North America and beyond listening, you might

457
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S6: be in the same range. 4% of Americans say that

458
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S6: they have a Christian worldview, which would include a Triune God,

459
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S6: a real Jesus that came to earth, died for our sins,

460
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S6: rose again, and he's at the right hand of the

461
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S6: father interceding for us, and that he's going to come

462
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S6: again one day and take his children to be with

463
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S6: him for eternity. That's a rough outline Christian worldview, and

464
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S6: we aim to let that worldview, the biblical worldview, impact

465
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S6: our private and public lives. 4%. Okay. Is that how's

466
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S6: that bounce.

467
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S3: Off.

468
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S4: You is surprising. That one's surprising, particularly given the other two.

469
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S6: Okay, so I think it is for me too, maybe

470
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S6: because I'm an optimist and I want to believe it's

471
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S6: higher than that. So I probably would have put I

472
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S6: would have guessed it if Barnet would have said, guess it, Carl.

473
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S6: I probably would have gone. 8%.

474
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S3: Okay, sure.

475
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S6: But I don't think I would have gone beyond eight.

476
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S6: What do you think, Jonathan?

477
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S2: Yeah, I mean, I guess it doesn't surprise me too

478
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S2: much just because I've been thinking about this all week.

479
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S2: As you've been saying, these numbers, 74% was the first number.

480
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S3: 72, 70.

481
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S6: 71, actually 71.

482
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S3: 71.

483
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S2: I mean, if you think about how the world would

484
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S2: look with 71% of.

485
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S3: People who say.

486
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S2: They're Christian are actually genuine disciples and followers of Jesus,

487
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S2: the world will look insanely different.

488
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S6: Not because those people are perfect. Just look at your

489
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S6: friend Carl, because it does radically alter us.

490
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S2: Yes, because the gospel changes us. And so when we

491
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S2: follow him genuinely, we are genuinely transformed. And the world

492
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S2: doesn't look very transformed right now. So it doesn't surprise

493
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S2: me that the number is low.

494
00:24:03,890 --> 00:24:07,050
S6: Okay. Let what are some of the reasons for the

495
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S6: gap between 24% and the 4%? Let's just spitball. What

496
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S6: are some of those reasons?

497
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S4: So the gap between church.

498
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S3: Attendance.

499
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S6: With evangelical gospel preaching, churches that open the Word of

500
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S6: God and preach it with some form of integrity. What's that?

501
00:24:24,340 --> 00:24:26,619
S6: Why that gap between 24 and 4?

502
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S2: I think convenience.

503
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S3: Okay.

504
00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:39,139
S2: It's not convenient to, I guess, let go of some

505
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S2: of the things that we hold tightly onto.

506
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S6: Okay.

507
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S3: Okay. Yeah.

508
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S4: Uh, saturation of information of non biblical viewpoints everywhere else.

509
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S6: That's a good one. So. Oh, this is good. Yeah.

510
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S6: So saturation of a worldview that can't be counteracted with

511
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S6: a christocentric worldview.

512
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S4: Yes. Because we mentioned yesterday this word that we are

513
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S4: being discipled by many different things we are being influenced by.

514
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S4: Let's just take social media. You know, a lot of

515
00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:18,590
S4: people spend a lot of time on social media. And

516
00:25:18,590 --> 00:25:22,310
S4: so if if that starts to shape your worldview in

517
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S4: subtle ways, you start to believe things to be true

518
00:25:25,150 --> 00:25:30,469
S4: about human flourishing, about sexuality, about about God, that isn't

519
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S4: biblical necessarily. It's somebody's viewpoint, somebody's opinion. And over time,

520
00:25:36,109 --> 00:25:39,869
S4: without even realizing it, you can have shifted pretty dramatically

521
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S4: from an actual true biblical worldview, especially if you are

522
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S4: not inclined to read the Bible regularly, read and study

523
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S4: it on your own.

524
00:25:48,670 --> 00:25:52,710
S6: So a saturation with a worldview that the biblical worldview

525
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S6: can't overcome. I need you to write that down because

526
00:25:55,710 --> 00:25:57,150
S6: we need to deal with that on.

527
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S3: Here.

528
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S6: For a topic someday. Seriously, that is hugely insightful. Young Thunder,

529
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S6: one more shot.

530
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S2: I think another thing is that we've we've misunderstood the

531
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S2: purpose of of good works in the Christian faith and

532
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S2: attending church. You know, it's we look at it like

533
00:26:14,050 --> 00:26:15,969
S2: box checking. I used to do this when I was

534
00:26:15,970 --> 00:26:16,490
S2: in middle school.

535
00:26:16,609 --> 00:26:17,530
S6: That's the end of the road.

536
00:26:17,570 --> 00:26:20,649
S2: Yeah. The crisis of my faith in middle school of

537
00:26:20,650 --> 00:26:22,649
S2: of do I really know? AM I going to make

538
00:26:22,650 --> 00:26:24,449
S2: it to heaven? And it's like, well, I served on

539
00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:27,609
S2: a missions trip this summer, so I think I'm all set. We,

540
00:26:27,650 --> 00:26:31,129
S2: we look at it like box checking. It's different than that.

541
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S6: This is huge, man. This fires me up. I could

542
00:26:34,170 --> 00:26:37,090
S6: mosh pit this stuff all day long. We could sit

543
00:26:37,090 --> 00:26:40,169
S6: for three more hours here because I love this. Okay,

544
00:26:40,210 --> 00:26:41,729
S6: coming up in a moment. I want to make you

545
00:26:41,730 --> 00:26:44,930
S6: a promise. There's one more thing that we left out

546
00:26:45,330 --> 00:26:48,770
S6: that is very, very important here. And it's actually a

547
00:26:48,810 --> 00:26:55,090
S6: byproduct of what Ali said. And it's big and it

548
00:26:55,090 --> 00:26:58,129
S6: might relate to you. And you might have this question. Yeah.

549
00:26:58,130 --> 00:27:02,050
S6: Why isn't this thing called Christianity really working out for me?

550
00:27:02,609 --> 00:27:04,649
S6: Why isn't this thing working out? There can be a

551
00:27:04,690 --> 00:27:07,580
S6: lot of reasons, but there's one in particular that is

552
00:27:07,580 --> 00:27:10,020
S6: an epidemic right now in the Western Church, and we're

553
00:27:10,020 --> 00:27:11,379
S6: going to talk about it. Hang on.

554
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S1: Your shot of hope to help you through the day.

555
00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:17,980
S1: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

556
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S6: I want to make you a promise that what I'm

557
00:27:21,820 --> 00:27:24,580
S6: about to tell you is one of the key reasons

558
00:27:25,140 --> 00:27:28,139
S6: for why a lot of people find the promises of

559
00:27:28,140 --> 00:27:31,660
S6: God to be so elusive. And I'm going to cut

560
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S6: to the chase and tell you that one of the

561
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S6: big gaps between the 4% that have a Christian worldview

562
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S6: that directs their private and public lives and actually results

563
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S6: in the fruit of the spirit, enjoy the abundant life

564
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S6: that Jesus promised, is that they have moved from cultural

565
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S6: Christianity into authentic followers of Christ. They've moved from going

566
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S6: to church to being in Christ. And boy, that's a

567
00:27:59,460 --> 00:28:03,590
S6: big difference. My heart's racing right now with expectation in

568
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:06,629
S6: a really cool way. You know, I don't know if

569
00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:09,270
S6: your new listening here, if you've been here a long time,

570
00:28:09,270 --> 00:28:11,470
S6: but we, we realized that the power of the Holy

571
00:28:11,470 --> 00:28:13,830
S6: Spirit is so powerful that when we share the hope

572
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S6: of the gospel, the Holy Spirit and his goodness will

573
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S6: pull down blinders. And I'm praying that he's doing that now.

574
00:28:19,470 --> 00:28:21,750
S6: And there's others praying as well. I'm certain of it.

575
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:27,550
S6: This cultural Christianity thing is an epidemic, and we know

576
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S6: it's the potentiality for it is huge. And I'm going

577
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S6: to make a quick reference here to a couple of

578
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S6: quick stories. Interestingly enough, in John, in excuse me, in

579
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S6: Matthew chapter seven and in Matthew 25 one is the

580
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S6: sermon on the Mount. The other one is a story

581
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S6: Jesus talks about about ten bridesmaids, the ten bridesmaids. There's

582
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S6: five that are ready when God returns. Jesus returns, and

583
00:28:52,750 --> 00:28:54,870
S6: there are five who are not. They all think they

584
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S6: are ready. They all think that they're ready. They're all

585
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S6: waiting for Jesus to return. Five are ready, five are

586
00:29:01,150 --> 00:29:06,120
S6: or not. And he says in Matthew 25, many will say, Lord, Lord,

587
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,520
S6: five of those bridesmaids, half will say, Lord, Lord. And

588
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,800
S6: he's going to say, I never knew you. Interestingly enough,

589
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,680
S6: that's the same words, guys, that we find in Matthew seven.

590
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,520
S6: Many will say on that day, Lord, Lord. And he's

591
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,760
S6: going to say, I never knew you. Jesus uses those

592
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:26,400
S6: same words twice, guys twice. And it's used to people

593
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:32,080
S6: in both occasions who think they've got the real thing. Now,

594
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,320
S6: that ought to stop us dead in our tracks because

595
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S6: these are not agnostic atheists, you know, shaking a fist

596
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,960
S6: at God, cursing, drinking, going crazy, just losing their minds

597
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:50,240
S6: out there. This this is these are well-meaning people. Isn't

598
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,560
S6: that crazy? These are that's a fair enough statement. I

599
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S6: think I'm accurate.

600
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S3: With.

601
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S6: The text. These are well-meaning people. And he's going to say,

602
00:30:02,490 --> 00:30:07,410
S6: I never knew you. And our our goal here is

603
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S6: not to try to rattle you and go, man, I

604
00:30:09,770 --> 00:30:13,090
S6: don't know, maybe I'm not born again or I've thought

605
00:30:13,090 --> 00:30:15,810
S6: this over and over again. Listen, there are ample ways

606
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S6: to know. You stand with God and He stands with you.

607
00:30:17,970 --> 00:30:21,170
S6: And I've coined nine of them in a in a blog.

608
00:30:21,290 --> 00:30:24,530
S6: And anytime you need it, you can text the word

609
00:30:24,530 --> 00:30:28,010
S6: stand to our number here, and you can stand on

610
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S6: the Word of God and see if these things are

611
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S6: characteristic of you. You can text it anytime. That word

612
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S6: stand here to our number. But let me let me

613
00:30:36,930 --> 00:30:40,650
S6: just continue on here because for some, the Holy Spirit's

614
00:30:40,650 --> 00:30:44,210
S6: pulling down blinders and it's like, okay, Carl, I'm listening.

615
00:30:44,210 --> 00:30:51,250
S6: So here's the truth. We have interpreted church attendance or

616
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S6: emotional moments, or raising a hand or even walking an aisle,

617
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S6: or the action of getting baptized as indicative of someone

618
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S6: who is right with God. Those things, although they're all good,

619
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S6: may or may not indicate that you have the real

620
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S6: deal with Jesus. I was that way. Jonathan for sure

621
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:15,310
S6: was that way to some degree. Ali, your story says,

622
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:20,550
S6: you know, there was you were that way. But here's

623
00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:23,630
S6: here's the cool thing. You can know that you stand

624
00:31:23,630 --> 00:31:25,550
S6: with God. Let me tell you what the real gospel

625
00:31:25,550 --> 00:31:28,709
S6: is and what's been left out, and what it means

626
00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:32,030
S6: to really follow Jesus and be in relationship with him.

627
00:31:34,110 --> 00:31:37,590
S6: There has to come a point where you repent. Now

628
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:40,750
S6: why repentance? Because we're born unto a broad path that

629
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S6: leads to destruction, I love to say, and Ali loves

630
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S6: to repeat it. And it's true. We're born with our

631
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S6: backs to God, aren't we?

632
00:31:48,670 --> 00:31:49,070
S3: Ali.

633
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S4: Right. I mean, we're the idea that we're all born

634
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S4: children of God or that we all somehow belong to

635
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S4: him as a default position biblically is just not true.

636
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S6: It's just not true. We're all born in sin. Sin

637
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,920
S6: separated us from God and put our backs to him

638
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,640
S6: from birth. And we're all born under this broad path

639
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,880
S6: trying to figure out life. See, Jesus said, go out

640
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S6: to his disciples and talk about repentance. Repentance. Repentance means

641
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,400
S6: turning around. It means changing your mind, changing the direction

642
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,680
S6: of your life, changing your allegiance. See if you confess

643
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,000
S6: with your mouth Jesus as Lord. This isn't just that

644
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:35,680
S6: Jesus is an authority. He's my authority. Confess with your

645
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S6: mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that

646
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S6: God raised him from the dead. You will be saved.

647
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S6: This is big though, man. This is belief is not

648
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,440
S6: just a nod of the head and intellectual assent. It's

649
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,400
S6: an embracing at a soul level. I'm a sinner. I

650
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S6: need a Savior. My God is risen and he died

651
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S6: for me, and I'm going to turn my life over

652
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S6: to him. Repent. That's the gospel. You know what it is?

653
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S6: It's emptying your hands of trying to hold on to

654
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S6: all the gods on the broad path, and trying to

655
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S6: hold on to Jesus as well. And it's saying, no,

656
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S6: I'm letting go of all my substitute gods, all my idols,

657
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S6: and I'm turning around and I'm surrendering all I am

658
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S6: to Jesus today. And there's some of you that the gap.

659
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S6: Has been that you are a cultural Christian. You're a

660
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S6: Christian in name only. And God wants to save you

661
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S6: from yourself and your deception. And it's a cool thing

662
00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:50,890
S6: because right now the Holy Spirit's saying, that's you. And

663
00:33:50,890 --> 00:33:53,020
S6: salvation is the cry of the soul. It's just a

664
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S6: heart crying out saying, God, I need you right now.

665
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S6: I need you. And it's beautiful and God's calling you.

666
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S6: Come to me. You're weary and heavy laden. Take my

667
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S6: yoke upon you. Learn from me. I'm gentle and humble

668
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S6: in heart. You're going to find rest for your souls.

669
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S6: For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.

670
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S6: And some of you have half heartedly in the past,

671
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S6: surrendered your life to Jesus, but you haven't fully surrendered

672
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S6: your life to Jesus. I mean, give him your all

673
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S6: and come empty handed and walk a path that few

674
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S6: will walk. But by God's grace, by the power of

675
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S6: the Holy Spirit, he's showing you. You need that today.

676
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S6: If today is your day of repentance, today is acknowledging

677
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S6: I'm a sinner. This isn't adding Jesus to my life.

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00:34:46,739 --> 00:34:52,150
S6: This is giving my life to Jesus. You will be

679
00:34:52,150 --> 00:34:57,109
S6: born again. We're going to give you a link in

680
00:34:57,110 --> 00:34:59,509
S6: a moment here. I want you to use Aliy's going

681
00:34:59,550 --> 00:35:01,270
S6: to give it to you. But guys, I'm telling you

682
00:35:01,270 --> 00:35:04,390
S6: right now, today, if today is the day when you

683
00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:07,989
S6: acknowledge I'm a sinner, if Jesus died just for me,

684
00:35:07,989 --> 00:35:12,350
S6: it was worth it all. But he took the penalty

685
00:35:12,350 --> 00:35:14,549
S6: of my sin on his shoulders to the cross and

686
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:16,910
S6: he rose again. He's alive. And I'm not going to

687
00:35:16,910 --> 00:35:21,590
S6: be a cultural Christianity Christian anymore. I am following Jesus.

688
00:35:21,590 --> 00:35:25,910
S6: I'm surrendering all I am to him today. I am repenting,

689
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:29,509
S6: I am turning around, and it's all by God's grace.

690
00:35:31,590 --> 00:35:33,589
S6: But I just want to do this right now. God,

691
00:35:33,590 --> 00:35:36,750
S6: I rejoice that people right now are repenting and turning

692
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:40,670
S6: to you. I praise you, you are an awesome God

693
00:35:40,670 --> 00:35:43,350
S6: and I give you thanks. In the name of Jesus,

694
00:35:43,350 --> 00:35:48,010
S6: I pray it. Amen. Ali, we want to help these

695
00:35:48,010 --> 00:35:51,529
S6: people who are having this, this huge answer for the

696
00:35:51,530 --> 00:35:52,850
S6: gap in their life, don't we?

697
00:35:52,890 --> 00:35:54,850
S4: Yes. So if that's you, I want you to just

698
00:35:54,850 --> 00:35:57,730
S4: text the word new. Just that one word n e

699
00:35:57,730 --> 00:36:05,050
S4: w to 800 555 7898. Just text new to 800

700
00:36:05,090 --> 00:36:08,850
S4: 555 7898. We just want to send you a link

701
00:36:08,850 --> 00:36:11,130
S4: that's going to give you just some next steps and

702
00:36:11,170 --> 00:36:14,370
S4: opportunity to get follow up, even from someone from our

703
00:36:14,370 --> 00:36:20,290
S4: Moody radio team. So just text new to 805 55 7898.

704
00:36:20,610 --> 00:36:25,810
S6: Yeah. Praise God that you were here today. He had

705
00:36:25,810 --> 00:36:27,250
S6: an appointment for you.

706
00:36:27,810 --> 00:36:32,570
S1: She's a choreographer extraordinaire and everything is Greek to her.

707
00:36:32,890 --> 00:36:36,690
S1: Super di is in the crew. It's Carl and crew

708
00:36:36,690 --> 00:36:37,930
S1: on Moody Radio.

709
00:36:39,010 --> 00:36:42,810
S6: So we had a little kicking it around here before

710
00:36:42,810 --> 00:36:46,140
S6: our last guest. By the way, that key word is sky.

711
00:36:46,180 --> 00:36:50,420
S6: You want to get it? Just sky. SKY1 word. Sky

712
00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:55,420
S6: to 800 555 7898. Uh, before we kick off our

713
00:36:55,500 --> 00:36:59,580
S6: next guest and move along here this morning, young Thunder,

714
00:36:59,580 --> 00:37:02,420
S6: I asked you, what's the hydration of a cup of coffee?

715
00:37:02,460 --> 00:37:05,380
S6: What percentage of the cup of coffee actually hydrates? Do

716
00:37:05,380 --> 00:37:06,700
S6: you have the answer for that one, my man.

717
00:37:06,739 --> 00:37:09,180
S2: Yeah. You know, I'm still making sure I've got it right.

718
00:37:09,180 --> 00:37:12,859
S2: But at least in terms of like Google's AI, it

719
00:37:12,860 --> 00:37:15,100
S2: says that a cup of coffee will hydrate you almost

720
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:19,100
S2: as effectively as water. Contrary to popular belief, because coffee's

721
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:21,100
S2: over 95% water.

722
00:37:21,940 --> 00:37:22,459
S3: I thought.

723
00:37:22,460 --> 00:37:24,819
S6: That caffeine counteracts the hydration.

724
00:37:24,820 --> 00:37:25,100
S3: Problem.

725
00:37:25,140 --> 00:37:25,420
S2: Says.

726
00:37:25,420 --> 00:37:25,739
S3: The flu.

727
00:37:25,780 --> 00:37:26,900
S6: Because it's a diuretic.

728
00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:29,980
S2: Well, it says the fluid intake outweighs the mild diuretic

729
00:37:29,980 --> 00:37:33,020
S2: effect of caffeine, especially in moderate amounts, 2 to 4

730
00:37:33,020 --> 00:37:34,540
S2: cups a day, while water.

731
00:37:34,540 --> 00:37:36,339
S3: Superior is moderate.

732
00:37:36,380 --> 00:37:40,299
S2: Well, I guess at least according to this, I can

733
00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:42,700
S2: imagine there are a lot of coffee drinkers who have

734
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:43,419
S2: four cups of coffee.

735
00:37:43,469 --> 00:37:45,750
S6: Oh, no. I mean, I worked with the guy in

736
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:48,430
S6: Prudhoe Bay who drank it all day long. I estimated

737
00:37:48,430 --> 00:37:50,270
S6: one time how many cups of coffee he had. And

738
00:37:50,270 --> 00:37:52,069
S6: I think it was something like 40 in a day.

739
00:37:52,350 --> 00:37:52,910
S2: That's crazy.

740
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:53,950
S6: Drank it all day long.

741
00:37:54,110 --> 00:37:54,910
S3: 40?

742
00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:59,069
S6: Oh, yeah. At least 40 cups a day. He just

743
00:37:59,070 --> 00:38:01,630
S6: drank it morning, noon and night. Just drank it all

744
00:38:01,630 --> 00:38:02,030
S6: day long.

745
00:38:02,070 --> 00:38:02,750
S4: Interesting.

746
00:38:02,750 --> 00:38:04,790
S6: I had to talk him into hydrating before I knew

747
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:06,830
S6: how important drinking water really was.

748
00:38:07,710 --> 00:38:10,029
S4: Okay, so we're still not, are we? Still are. So

749
00:38:10,030 --> 00:38:12,270
S4: we're going to go with that because that just.

750
00:38:13,469 --> 00:38:14,670
S6: I'm going to put a cautionary.

751
00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:14,950
S3: Thing.

752
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:18,069
S4: Everything I've ever learned. And I'm not a coffee drinker

753
00:38:18,270 --> 00:38:20,710
S4: because I am kind of allergic to it and I

754
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:22,390
S4: don't like the taste of it anyway.

755
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:29,430
S8: Two good reasons not to drink it. So I'm sorry,

756
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:30,669
S8: but I'm cracking up this morning.

757
00:38:31,590 --> 00:38:32,830
S3: I don't drink it because.

758
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:33,270
S6: I'm.

759
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:36,230
S3: Kind of allergic and I don't like the taste.

760
00:38:36,270 --> 00:38:38,150
S2: I'm looking at it. So I ran it through a

761
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:41,350
S2: different AI. I ran it through ChatGPT. And this says

762
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,840
S2: that coffee hydrates you 80 to 90% as much as water. So.

763
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:46,240
S3: Wow.

764
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,920
S2: So so pretty good.

765
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:48,800
S8: Okay.

766
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,720
S6: I'm still going to drink water.

767
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:51,640
S4: Yeah.

768
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,080
S3: Yeah. Water's better.

769
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,919
S4: I think that there's other reasons why you shouldn't just

770
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,399
S4: drink coffee all day. Even if it doesn't fully dehydrate you,

771
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,840
S4: you need water to actually, you know, flush out your system.

772
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,759
S6: Can you say eyeballs coming out of your head? That's

773
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,759
S6: one reason not to drink coffee all day long.

774
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:08,560
S3: Yeah. Very true.

775
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,120
S6: Okay. Uh, coming up here in just a moment. Uh, boy,

776
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,080
S6: when you've got one name for a moniker, you generally

777
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:22,600
S6: have an influencer's platform. Ruslan. Coming up straight ahead.

778
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,640
S1: Romans eight brought her to Jesus while broadcasting traffic overnight.

779
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,640
S1: Super di is in the crew. It's curl and crew

780
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,879
S1: on Moody radio.

781
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,440
S6: Well, it's not often. Guys, we have a guest in

782
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,330
S6: here that. I guess we got some one name Guess. Right.

783
00:39:40,530 --> 00:39:41,650
S6: We got a few of them.

784
00:39:41,690 --> 00:39:42,010
S3: Yeah.

785
00:39:42,130 --> 00:39:46,050
S6: Drew. I mean, everybody go. Oh, that's Dickens, man. He's

786
00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:49,370
S6: bringing the AI content. But on this one, we've got

787
00:39:49,370 --> 00:39:51,410
S6: a guy named Ruslan. How in the world did you

788
00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:53,930
S6: get that name? That is your name, I'm assuming. Right,

789
00:39:53,930 --> 00:39:54,610
S6: my friend.

790
00:39:55,250 --> 00:39:57,410
S9: That that is my government name. Correct.

791
00:39:58,090 --> 00:39:59,330
S8: That's good. All right.

792
00:39:59,330 --> 00:40:01,489
S6: We want to jump right in here. Ruslan, I know

793
00:40:01,489 --> 00:40:04,089
S6: you got a big following. You know what? I got

794
00:40:04,090 --> 00:40:08,410
S6: a curveball question for you. You're not old. You're not

795
00:40:08,410 --> 00:40:11,129
S6: a kid. How do you stay humble when you've got

796
00:40:11,130 --> 00:40:13,250
S6: a big platform? And a lot of people that hang

797
00:40:13,250 --> 00:40:14,450
S6: on every word you say?

798
00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:20,930
S9: Marriage. I have a very good marriage. What a great

799
00:40:20,930 --> 00:40:23,529
S9: wife that is not impressed with with any of the

800
00:40:23,530 --> 00:40:24,850
S9: stuff I got going on.

801
00:40:25,370 --> 00:40:27,890
S8: That's really a good answer.

802
00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:32,090
S4: Ruslan Kadi, that's what he's known on YouTube. He's a

803
00:40:32,090 --> 00:40:36,770
S4: Christian YouTuber, podcaster, entrepreneur. He's known for his thought provoking

804
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:42,270
S4: Commentary on faith, culture and personal development. As a YouTuber,

805
00:40:42,270 --> 00:40:44,589
S4: I know you. You'd have to pay attention to some

806
00:40:44,590 --> 00:40:48,110
S4: of what trends in terms of your content, what has

807
00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:52,149
S4: been your content piece that has gone the furthest and

808
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:56,109
S4: widest just in terms of downloads, I guess, or views?

809
00:40:57,510 --> 00:41:03,510
S9: There's been an interesting resurgence in the podcast sphere around faith.

810
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:08,149
S9: So particularly Joe Rogan recently coming to church and going

811
00:41:08,190 --> 00:41:10,750
S9: to church regularly. Uh, we were able to kind of

812
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:14,790
S9: call that years and years ago. And then seeing friends

813
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:17,350
S9: of mine like Wes Huff end up on there and

814
00:41:17,350 --> 00:41:21,230
S9: Stephen Myers. Uh, and that's been really fascinating. So we

815
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:23,630
S9: were kind of early to call what we would probably

816
00:41:23,630 --> 00:41:26,670
S9: acknowledge today is some sort of, what do we call it,

817
00:41:26,670 --> 00:41:30,910
S9: awakening or revival. Uh, talked about that fairly early on.

818
00:41:30,910 --> 00:41:32,870
S9: So I'd say that that's probably the thing that was

819
00:41:32,910 --> 00:41:34,870
S9: that that was most interesting for us.

820
00:41:34,910 --> 00:41:35,270
S3: You know.

821
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,080
S6: I've been so intrigued with Rogan and what he's saying

822
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,719
S6: about him going to church. I don't even know where

823
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,440
S6: he's at exactly with God. But here's what I'm finding

824
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,640
S6: with this new media. There is a freedom. They don't

825
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,920
S6: feel constrained like the old media. What's your take on that, Ruslan?

826
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,760
S9: Well, yeah, once you eliminate any massive corporations or any

827
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,080
S9: middlemen or anyone that's handling the relationships between the sponsors,

828
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,359
S9: and you can go directly to your audience. I think

829
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,520
S9: it definitely gives people more freedom to, to be themselves

830
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,759
S9: and be transparent in terms of what they're exploring and

831
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,600
S9: who they're becoming.

832
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,319
S4: Let's get a little bit of your own personal story.

833
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,960
S4: You know, I just saw a couple of articles about you.

834
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,640
S4: One article, the headline is Ex Atheist who escapes horrors

835
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:27,600
S4: of communism becomes Christian. YouTube star inspires next generation.

836
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:28,400
S3: That's a headline.

837
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,919
S4: That is a headline on a story written about you

838
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,450
S4: in the Christian Broadcasting Network. Give us fill in the

839
00:42:34,450 --> 00:42:37,250
S4: gaps because there's a lot there in that one headline.

840
00:42:38,450 --> 00:42:42,250
S9: Yeah. It's accurate. So I grew up, uh, I'm ethnically

841
00:42:42,250 --> 00:42:47,650
S9: Armenian and I grew up in a country named Azerbaijan. Baku. Uh,

842
00:42:48,130 --> 00:42:51,850
S9: this is in the Middle East, very, very peaceful part

843
00:42:51,850 --> 00:42:55,049
S9: of the world, a lot of tranquility and, uh, no,

844
00:42:55,050 --> 00:42:55,770
S9: I'm joking. It's not.

845
00:42:55,810 --> 00:42:56,650
S3: It's like, wait a second.

846
00:42:56,730 --> 00:43:01,410
S9: Just north of Iran and Iraq, that's where I grew up. Uh,

847
00:43:01,610 --> 00:43:05,970
S9: and so I am ethnically Armenian, but Azerbaijan, much like Iran,

848
00:43:05,969 --> 00:43:09,210
S9: is a Muslim part of the world, same type of Islam.

849
00:43:09,210 --> 00:43:12,290
S9: They practice in Iran, they practice in Azerbaijan. And so

850
00:43:12,290 --> 00:43:15,170
S9: this is all under the backdrop of the Soviet Union

851
00:43:15,170 --> 00:43:18,370
S9: and communism. And long story short, in the late 80s,

852
00:43:18,410 --> 00:43:21,290
S9: there was something called the pogroms of Baku, where about

853
00:43:21,290 --> 00:43:28,690
S9: half a million Armenians were ethnically displaced from Baku. And

854
00:43:28,690 --> 00:43:30,489
S9: we were scattered all over. And so me and my

855
00:43:30,489 --> 00:43:34,980
S9: family came to the United States in 1991. And then

856
00:43:35,020 --> 00:43:37,420
S9: subsequently after my mom and my dad split. And I

857
00:43:37,420 --> 00:43:40,660
S9: had a pretty rough upbringing, which then led me to, uh,

858
00:43:41,180 --> 00:43:44,180
S9: I had to have been the youngest self-identifying atheist. I

859
00:43:44,180 --> 00:43:47,420
S9: was probably 10 or 11 years old, uh, saying the

860
00:43:47,420 --> 00:43:50,259
S9: word atheist because my, my framework was that there is

861
00:43:50,260 --> 00:43:52,700
S9: no God. And if there was a God, he definitely

862
00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:54,940
S9: didn't love me and didn't care about me.

863
00:43:55,620 --> 00:43:56,660
S6: How'd that change?

864
00:43:57,180 --> 00:44:01,180
S9: Through a series of pretty events, I ended up getting

865
00:44:01,219 --> 00:44:06,940
S9: arrested at the age of, uh, 11 for attempting to

866
00:44:06,940 --> 00:44:08,779
S9: break into our house because we were trying to get

867
00:44:08,780 --> 00:44:11,540
S9: bail money to bail out my, my, our quote unquote,

868
00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:15,060
S9: gang leader. And we were in a lot of stuff.

869
00:44:15,060 --> 00:44:17,980
S9: It was me and this other Armenian, uh, family, refugee

870
00:44:17,980 --> 00:44:20,700
S9: family in our neighborhood. And I, I mean, I just,

871
00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:24,180
S9: I just had been through the ringer. I was smoking weed, drinking,

872
00:44:24,780 --> 00:44:29,500
S9: getting arrested, just, just a complete diet. Uh, dumb kid

873
00:44:29,590 --> 00:44:32,870
S9: to say the least. And in that process, I ended

874
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:36,190
S9: up having to do some community service hours. Uh, and

875
00:44:36,190 --> 00:44:39,390
S9: I like the typical knucklehead that I was waited until

876
00:44:39,390 --> 00:44:41,950
S9: the last minute to get these community service hours in,

877
00:44:41,950 --> 00:44:43,510
S9: but I knew I had a court date coming up.

878
00:44:43,870 --> 00:44:46,070
S3: So you were motivated? I do.

879
00:44:46,350 --> 00:44:49,150
S9: Yeah. What do I do? I end up going to

880
00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:52,790
S9: my neighbor's church to finish up these community service hours.

881
00:44:52,830 --> 00:44:54,029
S9: It's the only way I was going to get them

882
00:44:54,030 --> 00:44:58,069
S9: in time and their church. She had also. Her name

883
00:44:58,070 --> 00:45:01,029
S9: is Sheri, had a radical encounter with Jesus after going

884
00:45:01,070 --> 00:45:05,190
S9: to jail. Uh, for much, much serious, you know, crimes

885
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:07,110
S9: that I was doing and, uh, coming out of jail,

886
00:45:07,110 --> 00:45:11,110
S9: getting saved. And then everybody in our apartment complex except

887
00:45:11,110 --> 00:45:13,790
S9: the two refugee families became Christian. And that's who I

888
00:45:13,790 --> 00:45:16,790
S9: ended up doing the community service hours with was, uh,

889
00:45:17,310 --> 00:45:19,230
S9: my next door neighbor was Charlie and Willy, who went

890
00:45:19,230 --> 00:45:21,750
S9: to the church, and they ended up just sharing Jesus

891
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:24,509
S9: with me over and over. It's like seventh grade. And

892
00:45:24,510 --> 00:45:28,649
S9: I was really resistant for years. And then we relocated.

893
00:45:28,650 --> 00:45:30,890
S9: We moved. And it's just like the Lord just kept

894
00:45:30,890 --> 00:45:33,610
S9: putting people in my life that told me about Jesus.

895
00:45:33,890 --> 00:45:36,969
S9: And freshman year, I started dating a girl. She's telling

896
00:45:36,969 --> 00:45:40,330
S9: me about Jesus. And then eventually through about two years

897
00:45:40,330 --> 00:45:43,290
S9: of wrestling, I come to the faith through the door

898
00:45:43,290 --> 00:45:46,410
S9: of apologetics. I actually read the book The New Evidence

899
00:45:46,410 --> 00:45:50,490
S9: That Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell in high school. And, uh,

900
00:45:50,850 --> 00:45:53,250
S9: you know, surrender my life to the Lord about the

901
00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:54,370
S9: end of my junior year.

902
00:45:54,530 --> 00:45:58,130
S6: Beautiful man. That is a beautiful story. What's the fresh

903
00:45:58,170 --> 00:46:00,250
S6: thing God's doing in your life right now? I love

904
00:46:00,250 --> 00:46:02,530
S6: to ask that question. And here's why. The apostle Paul,

905
00:46:02,530 --> 00:46:05,210
S6: standing in front of Agrippa, gave his whole pedigree, all

906
00:46:05,250 --> 00:46:08,770
S6: the pick and bumps and bruises of trying to be

907
00:46:08,770 --> 00:46:11,450
S6: a Christian killer, getting smoked on the road to Damascus.

908
00:46:11,450 --> 00:46:13,250
S6: And then he looks at Agrippa and he says, and

909
00:46:13,250 --> 00:46:16,850
S6: this God is helping me to this very day. You

910
00:46:16,850 --> 00:46:17,930
S6: believe that, don't you?

911
00:46:18,850 --> 00:46:21,009
S9: Amen, Amen. Yeah. So this very day, I mean, there's

912
00:46:21,010 --> 00:46:24,610
S9: so many things God is doing. Uh, the impact of

913
00:46:24,770 --> 00:46:27,100
S9: the book has been amazing and I'm sure we'll talk

914
00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:30,339
S9: about that. Yeah, I've been I've been very fortunate in

915
00:46:30,380 --> 00:46:33,100
S9: that regard. We just had a baby. Uh, I have

916
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:35,700
S9: a four month old. His name is Luc Pascal. So

917
00:46:35,700 --> 00:46:38,899
S9: babies are a great a great way for the Lord

918
00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:41,700
S9: to move and show up. And you see the development

919
00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:47,020
S9: and the smiles and the coos. Um, I recently did a, uh,

920
00:46:47,020 --> 00:46:49,299
S9: a buddy of mine, Justin Early, wrote a book called

921
00:46:49,580 --> 00:46:53,979
S9: The Body Teaches the Soul. And it's all about like

922
00:46:54,020 --> 00:46:58,060
S9: erasing the idea of Gnosticism and holistically walking in fullness

923
00:46:58,060 --> 00:46:59,620
S9: of taking care of your body. And so I've been

924
00:46:59,620 --> 00:47:01,620
S9: on a health journey as well. I cut out caffeine

925
00:47:01,620 --> 00:47:04,819
S9: for a couple of weeks. Uh, I, you know, I

926
00:47:04,860 --> 00:47:07,779
S9: strength train pretty hard and I'm, uh, I'm, I love

927
00:47:07,780 --> 00:47:10,220
S9: that part because once I, once I lock in there,

928
00:47:10,380 --> 00:47:14,020
S9: there's something that happens when my natural body submits to

929
00:47:14,060 --> 00:47:17,980
S9: the things of God in terms of eating and sleeping. Um,

930
00:47:18,180 --> 00:47:20,180
S9: I'm doing a Bible in a two year plan on logos,

931
00:47:20,180 --> 00:47:22,299
S9: Bible software, which I'm a big fan of. So that's,

932
00:47:22,340 --> 00:47:25,910
S9: that's exciting. You know, five days a week, logos, Bible software. Um,

933
00:47:26,430 --> 00:47:28,469
S9: I go through the Bible in two years, which I've

934
00:47:28,469 --> 00:47:31,469
S9: never done before. I've done one year, but I always

935
00:47:31,469 --> 00:47:35,190
S9: fall behind and struggle. Whereas a two year plan, just

936
00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:37,390
S9: every day I'm coming fresh to the word. It's about

937
00:47:37,390 --> 00:47:39,390
S9: seven minutes of reading a day. So there's so many

938
00:47:39,390 --> 00:47:41,750
S9: amazing things and I can go deeper on any of

939
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:42,390
S9: those if you want to.

940
00:47:42,550 --> 00:47:45,230
S6: Yeah, yeah, I can tell you, Ruslan, let me tell

941
00:47:45,230 --> 00:47:48,390
S6: you something. You're a breath of fresh air. You know,

942
00:47:48,430 --> 00:47:50,109
S6: a lot of people might come on and go, yeah,

943
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:53,430
S6: I've got I read the Bible every eight weeks through

944
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:57,310
S6: cover to cover. Now, I love your take on this thing.

945
00:47:57,310 --> 00:47:59,790
S6: And coming up here, boom crew, I want to tell

946
00:47:59,790 --> 00:48:01,989
S6: you something. He's written a book that has taken off.

947
00:48:01,989 --> 00:48:06,350
S6: It's called Godly Ambition. And I love how he dispels

948
00:48:06,350 --> 00:48:10,190
S6: the myth of the super spirituality. It says you shouldn't

949
00:48:10,190 --> 00:48:14,230
S6: have any ambition. And then this craziness, it says everything's

950
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:17,910
S6: about ambition. And he's talking about leveraging that godly ambition

951
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:20,790
S6: in ways that really direct your time, talent and treasure.

952
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:23,040
S6: Hang on more with Ruslan straight ahead.

953
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,120
S1: She was trying to earn her way to God, but

954
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,560
S1: God showed her she didn't have to. Ali is in

955
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,919
S1: the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

956
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,920
S6: We've got Ruslan with us right now. Yep. He's got

957
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,040
S6: a big enough platform that one name will work. And

958
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,839
S6: it's really cool. Godly kid. Uh, I call you kid

959
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,120
S6: because I'm way older than you, so I can do that, Ruslan.

960
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,439
S6: But I appreciate your humility and just the vulnerability that

961
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,040
S6: you have. You know, I also love the fact that

962
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,360
S6: you're a resistance trainer and your experiment with health things

963
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,920
S6: you knew. I'd love that, right?

964
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,319
S4: Oh, yeah. That's right up your alley.

965
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:02,360
S3: Oh, come on now.

966
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,319
S6: So talk to us about godly ambition and what's what

967
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,359
S6: do we get right? What do we get wrong and

968
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,400
S6: what have you learned?

969
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,480
S9: Wow. I think there's so many things that we get

970
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,919
S9: right in the sense that like, even before being a Christian,

971
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,450
S9: there are some things that every one of us has

972
00:49:21,450 --> 00:49:24,930
S9: kind of built to get after, and those are good things.

973
00:49:24,930 --> 00:49:27,049
S9: And I think what happens is if we don't walk

974
00:49:27,050 --> 00:49:30,290
S9: with Jesus, we then get polluted by the world. And

975
00:49:30,290 --> 00:49:33,770
S9: those good desires like to become a provider, like to

976
00:49:33,770 --> 00:49:36,410
S9: take care of your body, uh, like to figure out

977
00:49:36,410 --> 00:49:38,490
S9: what your purpose and your calling is. It's a good desires.

978
00:49:38,489 --> 00:49:41,850
S9: Those are good ambitions. But what happens is, uh, if you,

979
00:49:41,850 --> 00:49:44,610
S9: if you're not following Jesus, you'll get polluted by the world.

980
00:49:44,610 --> 00:49:47,850
S9: And then those things become selfish ambition. Uh, the scriptures

981
00:49:47,850 --> 00:49:51,410
S9: call that, uh, adithya in the Greek. And that is

982
00:49:51,410 --> 00:49:54,370
S9: like a selfish. I'm going to clobber, get after it

983
00:49:54,370 --> 00:49:57,290
S9: by any means necessary. And then what happens for for

984
00:49:57,290 --> 00:50:00,090
S9: some of us is we become followers of Jesus. And

985
00:50:00,090 --> 00:50:03,330
S9: then the church tells us that all ambition is evil.

986
00:50:03,570 --> 00:50:07,810
S9: And this is actually a sermon I heard from a pastor,

987
00:50:07,850 --> 00:50:11,330
S9: a well known pastor, that inspired this book about almost

988
00:50:11,330 --> 00:50:14,890
S9: ten years ago, 2017, 2018, and it was a viral

989
00:50:14,890 --> 00:50:19,310
S9: clip that said all ambition is evil and it's still

990
00:50:19,310 --> 00:50:20,630
S9: up till this day and people can Google it. I'm

991
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:23,230
S9: not going to name check the. The pastor is. So

992
00:50:23,710 --> 00:50:26,469
S9: this is going viral. And the ironic part about this

993
00:50:26,469 --> 00:50:28,549
S9: clip is I'm watching it and I'm like, this guy

994
00:50:28,550 --> 00:50:33,430
S9: is well dressed. He has an amazing stage design. He's

995
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:37,509
S9: preaching with passion. Someone on his team had the capacity

996
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:39,190
S9: to clip this up in a way that would go

997
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:42,670
S9: viral and everything about this exhibit's ambition, but he's telling

998
00:50:42,670 --> 00:50:45,550
S9: young people that all ambition is evil and it's demonic

999
00:50:45,550 --> 00:50:46,390
S9: and it's bad.

1000
00:50:46,430 --> 00:50:46,669
S3: And.

1001
00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:49,310
S9: You shouldn't go. And I'm like, this is this is

1002
00:50:49,350 --> 00:50:51,910
S9: this is dumb. And so that's the other extreme is

1003
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:54,990
S9: people that say all ambition is evil and that's false too.

1004
00:50:55,030 --> 00:50:57,069
S9: And so what I discovered in the scriptures is there's

1005
00:50:57,110 --> 00:51:01,149
S9: actually a word for ambition that's different than the type

1006
00:51:01,150 --> 00:51:05,509
S9: of ambition in the original Greek. It's something like filio tamam,

1007
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:08,549
S9: which is where we get the word filio is where

1008
00:51:08,550 --> 00:51:12,230
S9: we get our word Philadelphia or brotherly, and then Tamam,

1009
00:51:12,270 --> 00:51:14,029
S9: there's the root word time there. So it's a type

1010
00:51:14,030 --> 00:51:16,960
S9: of ambition that Paul uses three times. He says he

1011
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,640
S9: makes it his ambition to preach the gospel where others

1012
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,759
S9: have it. He makes it his ambition to do what

1013
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,120
S9: pleases God, and he makes it his ambition to lead

1014
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,799
S9: a quiet life. Working with your own hands, minding your

1015
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,720
S9: own business so that you won't be dependent on anyone

1016
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,920
S9: in your daily life, may win the respect of outsiders.

1017
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,600
S9: And so that's a godly ambition that I end up

1018
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,680
S9: exploring in the book, and really trying to get people

1019
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:43,080
S9: in tune with calling identity their purpose. Why are they here?

1020
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,319
S9: How do they go after it? And what sort of

1021
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,160
S9: framework can we give people to discover this?

1022
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:48,680
S3: Love it.

1023
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:53,480
S4: Ruslan. Katie, our guest right now, he's a Christian YouTuber, podcaster, entrepreneur.

1024
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,960
S4: You know, the YouTube space is an interesting one. You

1025
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,919
S4: got into it pretty early. You 2015. So you've been

1026
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:04,880
S4: doing this for a while. There's this, there's really a generational, uh,

1027
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,319
S4: I don't want to say divide, but you know, my

1028
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,279
S4: son is very into YouTube. He's 13. He's got the,

1029
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,690
S4: his favorite YouTubers that he follows me. Not so much.

1030
00:52:14,730 --> 00:52:18,090
S4: My parents. Really? Not at all. Why is the YouTube

1031
00:52:18,090 --> 00:52:20,930
S4: platform a good place for ministry?

1032
00:52:22,250 --> 00:52:26,489
S9: Well, YouTube is not the time square of our digital world,

1033
00:52:26,730 --> 00:52:29,569
S9: and it can get you in front of a lot

1034
00:52:29,610 --> 00:52:33,089
S9: of people if you understand the platform. And I think

1035
00:52:33,090 --> 00:52:36,330
S9: whenever we have an opportunity to speak in front of people, uh,

1036
00:52:36,370 --> 00:52:38,609
S9: that's always a good thing. And so the beautiful part

1037
00:52:38,610 --> 00:52:42,649
S9: about YouTube is it's replacing television now. So most people

1038
00:52:42,650 --> 00:52:45,529
S9: are watching more YouTube. They're on social media more than

1039
00:52:45,530 --> 00:52:48,250
S9: they were watching TV. And that could be a good

1040
00:52:48,250 --> 00:52:50,890
S9: thing or a bad thing because, you know, TV had some,

1041
00:52:50,890 --> 00:52:54,250
S9: some guardrails, if you will. And now there's almost something

1042
00:52:54,250 --> 00:52:56,690
S9: for everyone. But the beautiful part about YouTube is if

1043
00:52:56,690 --> 00:53:00,089
S9: we could understand what people are struggling with, what people

1044
00:53:00,130 --> 00:53:03,250
S9: are wrestling with, what concerns, what fears, what questions they have,

1045
00:53:03,290 --> 00:53:05,850
S9: then we as followers of Jesus can speak directly into

1046
00:53:05,850 --> 00:53:08,609
S9: that and take topics that they're interested about. And the

1047
00:53:08,610 --> 00:53:12,380
S9: YouTube search will work our things up in front of them,

1048
00:53:12,580 --> 00:53:16,940
S9: and we arguably get access to more non-Christians, more Jesus

1049
00:53:16,940 --> 00:53:20,860
S9: curious people than through any medium in the history of media.

1050
00:53:21,780 --> 00:53:26,180
S6: What are the top things that you're finding really do, um,

1051
00:53:26,860 --> 00:53:30,100
S6: provoke people to take a listen to what you're saying?

1052
00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:33,020
S6: God's given you a big platform. Those aren't all people

1053
00:53:33,020 --> 00:53:36,500
S6: that are church kids or adults. What's what's God doing?

1054
00:53:37,820 --> 00:53:41,100
S9: Well, I think this generation, specifically Gen Z in the

1055
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:46,460
S9: coming Gen Alpha, is arguably the most marketed to generation ever.

1056
00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:48,460
S9: I mean, they all grew up with phones in their

1057
00:53:48,460 --> 00:53:51,739
S9: hands or tablets on them. And they're they're tired of

1058
00:53:51,739 --> 00:53:53,660
S9: being marketed to. And I think they're looking for something

1059
00:53:53,660 --> 00:53:57,700
S9: that is real, that is genuine and that is authentic.

1060
00:53:57,700 --> 00:54:00,460
S9: And I think we are seeing a ton of interest

1061
00:54:00,460 --> 00:54:02,779
S9: on everything from just, just the topic of Jesus and

1062
00:54:02,780 --> 00:54:04,859
S9: how to live a life that follows Jesus. You know,

1063
00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:10,360
S9: they say 45% of non-Christian Gen Z is Jesus curious? Um,

1064
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,960
S9: and then all the way to, you know, we talk

1065
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,839
S9: about everything from demons and aliens and the Nephilim all

1066
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:22,600
S9: have different, uh, investigators on theologians on, uh, we talk about,

1067
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,719
S9: you know, stuff that 20 years ago we may have

1068
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,240
S9: found boring, which is like the validity of the scriptures.

1069
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,319
S9: You know, Wes Huff has gone mega-viral now, I've had

1070
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,960
S9: him on the channel quite a few times. Uh, he

1071
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,720
S9: endorsed my book as well. And so we'll have on,

1072
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,360
S9: you know, the historicity of why the scriptures are reliable.

1073
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,640
S9: So we actually end up having a pretty broad conversation

1074
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,960
S9: around all these things. And the interesting thing is, I mean,

1075
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,600
S9: young people are curious about all of it. Like it's

1076
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,040
S9: they want to know their calling. They want to know

1077
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,719
S9: their purpose. They also want to understand the stuff that's

1078
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,719
S9: happening with the aliens and the Nephilim, you know, Bigfoot.

1079
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,560
S9: And they, they just, they're curious bunch and a lot

1080
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:57,160
S9: of questions.

1081
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,120
S3: I love it.

1082
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,120
S6: Well, there's something really cool coming up here. Uh, not

1083
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,640
S6: just in Chicagoland, but it is in Chicago, but it's

1084
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,880
S6: around the nation. And we've got a link for all this,

1085
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,850
S6: but we also have a link in this keyword that

1086
00:55:09,850 --> 00:55:12,730
S6: we're going to give you, this link to this book

1087
00:55:12,730 --> 00:55:16,810
S6: for which I ordered one already. Godly ambition unlocking the

1088
00:55:16,810 --> 00:55:19,290
S6: full potential of your time, talent, and treasure. I'm a

1089
00:55:19,290 --> 00:55:21,969
S6: Lifehacker that way, Ruslan, so I'm looking forward to seeing

1090
00:55:21,969 --> 00:55:24,410
S6: what I can learn from you. Ali. How do they

1091
00:55:24,410 --> 00:55:24,770
S6: get it?

1092
00:55:24,810 --> 00:55:26,610
S4: Yeah. This is going to give you everything. The book.

1093
00:55:26,650 --> 00:55:30,290
S4: And then as Carl mentioned, there's an upcoming tour that's

1094
00:55:30,290 --> 00:55:33,250
S4: going to be an experience. It's going to blend a

1095
00:55:33,250 --> 00:55:35,529
S4: lot of your passions. Ruslan, you said there's going to

1096
00:55:35,530 --> 00:55:39,009
S4: be some music, some Q&A, some storytelling. You're a one

1097
00:55:39,010 --> 00:55:45,250
S4: man band for sure. Just text bless to (800) 555-7898. It's

1098
00:55:45,250 --> 00:55:48,410
S4: the Godly Ambition Tour, kicking off April 10th here in

1099
00:55:48,410 --> 00:55:54,930
S4: Chicago with them with stops nationwide. Just text bless to (800) 555-7898.

1100
00:55:54,930 --> 00:55:56,089
S4: We'll get you the details.

1101
00:55:57,370 --> 00:56:00,570
S1: Get to know the team behind the scenes. Follow Carl

1102
00:56:00,570 --> 00:56:02,770
S1: and crew on Facebook and Instagram.

1103
00:56:05,660 --> 00:56:06,260
S3: All right.

1104
00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:09,340
S6: A couple big things we got for you this half hour.

1105
00:56:09,380 --> 00:56:12,580
S6: The first one is really cool and really simple. We

1106
00:56:12,580 --> 00:56:15,940
S6: want to have you part of planning where we're going

1107
00:56:15,940 --> 00:56:17,940
S6: with this show. We call it the War Room and

1108
00:56:17,940 --> 00:56:20,900
S6: we are inviting you in. Ali's got the details.

1109
00:56:20,900 --> 00:56:21,900
S3: Take it away, Ali.

1110
00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:26,820
S4: So our war room is our planning session. We pray. We, uh,

1111
00:56:26,980 --> 00:56:30,620
S4: brainstorm different ideas. We listen to your feedback, which is

1112
00:56:30,620 --> 00:56:33,580
S4: what we're asking for now. What topics would you like

1113
00:56:33,580 --> 00:56:36,740
S4: to hear us talk more about? Or maybe talk about?

1114
00:56:36,780 --> 00:56:38,739
S4: You've never heard about it on Karl and Crew, but

1115
00:56:38,739 --> 00:56:42,020
S4: you'd love to hear us and capture this or go

1116
00:56:42,020 --> 00:56:45,100
S4: in this direction. And someone said, I want you guys

1117
00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:48,020
S4: to say gospel focused. Oh, absolutely.

1118
00:56:48,060 --> 00:56:49,820
S3: Yeah, we ain't going away from that.

1119
00:56:50,340 --> 00:56:53,020
S4: We're not going to turn into a cooking show or

1120
00:56:53,060 --> 00:56:56,739
S4: pop culture or the top ten lists of X, Y,

1121
00:56:56,780 --> 00:56:59,380
S4: or Z. No, no, no, no. This is all under

1122
00:56:59,380 --> 00:57:03,830
S4: the umbrella of the gospel changes everything. So no worries there.

1123
00:57:03,870 --> 00:57:05,750
S2: I really want to know how young Thunder cooks his

1124
00:57:05,750 --> 00:57:06,550
S2: mac and cheese.

1125
00:57:07,230 --> 00:57:12,430
S4: Segment coming your way. It involves a microwave, most likely.

1126
00:57:12,469 --> 00:57:15,030
S3: It involves a box and a microwave. Hey.

1127
00:57:15,350 --> 00:57:17,310
S2: Just because it's accurate doesn't mean it's not hurtful.

1128
00:57:17,350 --> 00:57:20,950
S4: So what is that idea? What is that topic suggestion

1129
00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:26,750
S4: that you have for us? (800) 555-7898. So much. Hundreds of

1130
00:57:27,110 --> 00:57:29,070
S4: texts already have come in on this one. So make

1131
00:57:29,110 --> 00:57:30,950
S4: sure that you weigh in. What do you want to

1132
00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:33,590
S4: hear more of? What has helped you in your walk

1133
00:57:33,590 --> 00:57:37,270
S4: with Jesus? 800 555 7898.

1134
00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:40,110
S6: Okay, here's the question we've got for you this half

1135
00:57:40,110 --> 00:57:41,830
S6: hour and we're going to light it up. We're going

1136
00:57:41,870 --> 00:57:45,430
S6: old school. Classic Freedom Friday. Haven't done this in a while.

1137
00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:51,110
S6: What did God use to grab your heart and transform it?

1138
00:57:51,710 --> 00:57:55,750
S6: I'm talking salvation. Was it a book? Was it a preacher?

1139
00:57:55,750 --> 00:57:59,630
S6: Was it a radio show? Was it a YouTube channel?

1140
00:57:59,950 --> 00:58:02,720
S6: Was it you had heard truth before and you got

1141
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,680
S6: smoked by the spirit driving down the road like me.

1142
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,000
S6: And God said, are you done yet? Because you already

1143
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,560
S6: knew the gospel. So think about it. What did God

1144
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:17,640
S6: use to grab your heart and transform your soul? I

1145
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,640
S6: love this, this is old school Freedom Friday.

1146
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,800
S4: Here it is. What was it? Was it a person?

1147
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,400
S4: Was it a book, a podcast, a radio show, a

1148
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:32,520
S4: church service? 855 five 7898. What did God use to

1149
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:38,040
S4: grab your heart and transform your soul? 805 55 7898.

1150
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:38,400
S3: Was.

1151
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:39,400
S6: It Billy Graham?

1152
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,000
S4: I, I think there's, there's so many different ways that

1153
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,360
S4: this could be answered. And I'm really excited to hear

1154
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,680
S4: stories this morning.

1155
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,640
S6: Yeah, we got to get your stories. So call in,

1156
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,560
S6: light them up. We got every phone line wide open.

1157
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,720
S6: Come and fill them up. We are asking you to.

1158
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,419
S6: Well come on, we're giving you input to the show now.

1159
00:59:00,420 --> 00:59:04,260
S6: It's time. Boy, we got full show participation today. This

1160
00:59:04,260 --> 00:59:07,980
S6: is awesome. What did God use to grab your heart

1161
00:59:07,980 --> 00:59:12,380
S6: and transform your soul? Light them up. Take a moment.

1162
00:59:12,380 --> 00:59:14,860
S6: Call in. You won't be on here long. And we

1163
00:59:14,860 --> 00:59:20,340
S6: don't bite. We just nibble. 800 555, 78, 98. And

1164
00:59:20,340 --> 00:59:27,580
S6: this is going to inspire someone else. 800 555 7898.

1165
00:59:27,660 --> 00:59:30,060
S6: Light them up, guys. Now's the time.

1166
00:59:30,980 --> 00:59:34,220
S1: Get in the know with life's biggest questions. It's ask

1167
00:59:34,260 --> 00:59:36,340
S1: the experts week with Carl and crew.

1168
00:59:38,740 --> 00:59:42,060
S6: Phone lines are jammed. I love that.

1169
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:45,220
S4: It's Freedom Friday. Here's the question. What did God use

1170
00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:48,620
S4: to grab your heart and transform your soul? This could

1171
00:59:48,620 --> 00:59:50,980
S4: be a what or a who, I guess. Was it

1172
00:59:50,980 --> 00:59:55,020
S4: a book, a YouTube channel, a person, a podcast man?

1173
00:59:55,060 --> 00:59:55,540
S4: You ready?

1174
00:59:55,540 --> 01:00:03,030
S6: Yeah. Let's go. Janis. Murfreesboro, Tennessee. What do you say, sister? Janice.

1175
01:00:03,070 --> 01:00:05,310
S6: You're on air. You got the radio up in the background.

1176
01:00:05,310 --> 01:00:06,350
S6: What do you got, Janice?

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01:00:07,470 --> 01:00:13,030
S10: Oh, hi. Um, yeah, I'm Janice from Murfreesboro, Tennessee, and I, um,

1178
01:00:13,270 --> 01:00:15,790
S10: came to know the Lord through a girl who was

1179
01:00:15,790 --> 01:00:19,310
S10: a neighbor, and she was at a biker party that

1180
01:00:19,310 --> 01:00:23,830
S10: I was at. I was preaching about Jesus, um, at a,

1181
01:00:23,830 --> 01:00:26,950
S10: at a campfire, and I heard the call of the

1182
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:31,990
S10: Lord and, um, gave my life to Christ and went

1183
01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:34,550
S10: back to church or went to church and have been

1184
01:00:34,550 --> 01:00:36,950
S10: following him since the Jesus Revolution.

1185
01:00:37,110 --> 01:00:37,550
S4: Wow.

1186
01:00:38,030 --> 01:00:42,070
S6: Janice. Nothing like somebody preaching from a soft tail of

1187
01:00:42,070 --> 01:00:44,030
S6: a Harley-Davidson, right, sister?

1188
01:00:44,790 --> 01:00:45,590
S11: That's right.

1189
01:00:46,990 --> 01:00:48,030
S4: Oh, I love that.

1190
01:00:48,070 --> 01:00:50,670
S6: Oh my goodness, that's awesome. Let's keep going to the

1191
01:00:50,670 --> 01:00:51,310
S6: phone lines here.

1192
01:00:51,350 --> 01:00:53,669
S4: Ali, what did God use to grab your heart and

1193
01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:57,320
S4: transform your soul? George from Charleston, South Carolina. What was

1194
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:57,920
S4: it for you?

1195
01:00:58,600 --> 01:00:59,040
S1: Hello.

1196
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,760
S4: Hello. Go ahead. George. Yes, we got you, George. Go ahead.

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01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:08,560
S12: Yeah. Um, so a couple things, but make a long

1198
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,920
S12: story short. I had a Gideon Bible given to me

1199
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,720
S12: for my brother. You know, when he went to the

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01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,000
S12: Air Force that started warming my heart. But what really

1201
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,919
S12: grabbed my heart was, uh. And Carl, I know you're

1202
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,200
S12: familiar with this ministry. Pacific Garden mission.

1203
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:22,640
S6: Oh, yeah, we all are.

1204
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:27,120
S12: Yeah. So back in 1987, I was on the road

1205
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,440
S12: selling vacuum cleaners and stuff like that. And I found

1206
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,360
S12: a way to hear this podcast. I heard this radio

1207
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:39,200
S12: show called unshackled. And, uh, after three months of being

1208
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,480
S12: on the road. Listen to this, listen to this program. Yeah,

1209
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,919
S12: it just, you know, it's true stories about how people

1210
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,880
S12: come to faith in Christ. And I just said, Lord,

1211
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,600
S12: I ain't worth nothing. But whatever it is, it's all yours. Wow.

1212
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,810
S12: Praise God. 39 years later, my beautiful wife stuck with me.

1213
01:01:56,810 --> 01:01:58,650
S12: That was two months before I got married. I had

1214
01:01:58,650 --> 01:02:01,730
S12: to confess stuff. She stayed with me. And we both have.

1215
01:02:01,770 --> 01:02:04,689
S12: We're believers. Our kids are believers. Our. By God's grace,

1216
01:02:04,690 --> 01:02:06,050
S12: our grandkids will be too.

1217
01:02:06,090 --> 01:02:07,210
S13: Praise God. Wow.

1218
01:02:07,610 --> 01:02:11,770
S6: George. Smoke on the water. Boom, brother. Unshackled.

1219
01:02:11,810 --> 01:02:15,730
S4: Yes. Longest, longest running radio drama in history. So they

1220
01:02:15,730 --> 01:02:19,210
S4: take these testimonies and they are, um, kind of like

1221
01:02:19,250 --> 01:02:23,410
S4: they're dramatized by trained actors. And yeah, it is an

1222
01:02:23,410 --> 01:02:24,970
S4: incredible radio program.

1223
01:02:25,010 --> 01:02:28,730
S6: Great stuff. Dennis. Chattanooga, Tennessee. What's your story? Dennis?

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01:02:29,930 --> 01:02:33,130
S14: Yes. Uh, I found the Lord back in my 30s

1225
01:02:33,330 --> 01:02:37,170
S14: and he showed me a love, mercy, and grace and

1226
01:02:37,170 --> 01:02:39,930
S14: he set me down to do it that I, I

1227
01:02:39,970 --> 01:02:43,169
S14: was supposed to take over and, and show that I'm

1228
01:02:43,170 --> 01:02:45,850
S14: willing to go the distance. And I fell short and

1229
01:02:45,850 --> 01:02:48,930
S14: ran away and I was gone for 15 years. Moved

1230
01:02:48,930 --> 01:02:52,260
S14: back to Red Bank in Chattanooga, Tennessee. And one morning

1231
01:02:52,260 --> 01:02:54,340
S14: I walked out to the truck to go to work,

1232
01:02:54,340 --> 01:02:56,260
S14: and a voice from heaven spoke and told me to

1233
01:02:56,260 --> 01:02:59,620
S14: pick a road. And the power was so strong that

1234
01:02:59,620 --> 01:03:02,620
S14: when the voice spoke, you could feel that. And now

1235
01:03:02,620 --> 01:03:06,700
S14: I've been sober. And without that, that sinful thing in

1236
01:03:06,740 --> 01:03:09,460
S14: my life. I've been there for ten years. I had

1237
01:03:09,460 --> 01:03:13,340
S14: my anniversary was last month, and I have found a

1238
01:03:13,340 --> 01:03:15,500
S14: new way to live. And every day I wake up,

1239
01:03:15,500 --> 01:03:17,220
S14: I think about how I can please God.

1240
01:03:17,380 --> 01:03:18,500
S6: Oh, Dennis.

1241
01:03:18,540 --> 01:03:18,980
S4: Wow.

1242
01:03:19,180 --> 01:03:24,300
S6: Boom. Brother, this is Freedom Friday. Ali. Coming up. Taking

1243
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:25,780
S6: more of your calls. What's the question?

1244
01:03:25,820 --> 01:03:28,460
S4: What did God use to grab your heart and transform

1245
01:03:28,460 --> 01:03:32,060
S4: your soul? Was it a person, a book, a podcast,

1246
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:36,740
S4: a YouTube channel? You tell us 805, five, five, 78,

1247
01:03:36,780 --> 01:03:42,900
S4: 98 taking your calls on this freedom. Friday 805 557898A.

1248
01:03:42,940 --> 01:03:47,500
S1: Basketball mom who's mastered the dad joke. Ali is in

1249
01:03:47,540 --> 01:03:50,880
S1: the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

1250
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,240
S6: Yeah, a lot of cool stories coming in on this

1251
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:58,280
S6: Freedom Friday. Man, what did God use to grab your

1252
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:06,479
S6: heart and transform your life? Person. Podcast. Preacher. Something. What

1253
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,760
S6: did he use? 800 555 7898 getting as many calls

1254
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,840
S6: in here as we can. Uh, Janice Oak Lawn right

1255
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,560
S6: here in Illinois. What do you say, Janice?

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01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,480
S15: Hi. Thanks for taking my call. I was 30 years old,

1257
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,720
S15: and I was going through a divorce, and I had

1258
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,720
S15: three small kids, and I felt something within me was

1259
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,840
S15: going on. I had no idea what the what the

1260
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,760
S15: feeling was. But I said to God and I really

1261
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,560
S15: wasn't a religious person, I go, um, if there's a

1262
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,200
S15: real God in heaven, please reveal yourself to me. And

1263
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,400
S15: I thought, what did I say that for? So here

1264
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,840
S15: I am in the middle of the night crying and.

1265
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,760
S15: And I didn't want my children to see me cry.

1266
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,130
S15: I've got the TV on. I'm flicking the channels and

1267
01:04:49,130 --> 01:04:52,570
S15: this guy says, um, your life's messed up. And I go, yeah,

1268
01:04:52,570 --> 01:04:54,610
S15: it is. And he goes, you don't know what to

1269
01:04:54,650 --> 01:04:56,610
S15: do about it, do you? And I go, no, I don't.

1270
01:04:56,850 --> 01:04:59,210
S15: He says, you know, Jesus is a gentleman and he

1271
01:04:59,210 --> 01:05:03,410
S15: will never, um, enter your life unless you ask him.

1272
01:05:03,570 --> 01:05:07,010
S15: He won't crash in. He's a gentleman. And so I thought,

1273
01:05:07,010 --> 01:05:09,810
S15: what do I have to lose? I knelt down and

1274
01:05:09,810 --> 01:05:13,530
S15: I said, Jesus, I need you to come in my life.

1275
01:05:13,930 --> 01:05:16,970
S15: And it was 40 years ago and I cannot imagine

1276
01:05:16,970 --> 01:05:18,490
S15: my life without him.

1277
01:05:18,530 --> 01:05:23,610
S6: Oh, Jess, that is so powerful, sister. Wow. Thank you

1278
01:05:23,610 --> 01:05:27,770
S6: so much for taking the time to call in. That's beautiful,

1279
01:05:27,770 --> 01:05:28,530
S6: isn't it, Ali?

1280
01:05:28,690 --> 01:05:31,810
S4: I mean, the fact that the Lord used the the

1281
01:05:31,810 --> 01:05:38,490
S4: television on. Surely a prerecorded program that in that moment

1282
01:05:38,490 --> 01:05:40,010
S4: was a conversation.

1283
01:05:40,010 --> 01:05:42,370
S6: And here's what that illustrates. We've talked about it. That's

1284
01:05:42,370 --> 01:05:45,730
S6: prevenient grace. God was already warming her up to be

1285
01:05:45,730 --> 01:05:48,820
S6: a God fearing woman. God was at work in that

1286
01:05:48,820 --> 01:05:49,380
S6: whole thing.

1287
01:05:49,420 --> 01:05:50,980
S2: Yeah. She just needed to hear the message.

1288
01:05:51,180 --> 01:05:54,300
S6: Powerful. Marcos. Miami, Florida. What do you say? Marcos.

1289
01:05:55,540 --> 01:05:59,300
S16: Yeah. Hi. My name is Marcos Santibanez. I'm from Miami, Florida.

1290
01:05:59,580 --> 01:06:02,020
S16: I became one of the biggest drug kingpins in the

1291
01:06:02,020 --> 01:06:05,180
S16: United States at the age of 22 years old. I

1292
01:06:05,180 --> 01:06:08,740
S16: worked with Pablo Escobar at 22 years old. I had

1293
01:06:08,740 --> 01:06:11,380
S16: a beauty salon in Miami, and I was running my

1294
01:06:11,500 --> 01:06:13,220
S16: drug money because the government didn't know how much hair

1295
01:06:13,220 --> 01:06:15,660
S16: you cut, your nails, you paint. And I started loading

1296
01:06:15,660 --> 01:06:19,140
S16: my drug money at 22 years old. That's 25 years old.

1297
01:06:19,540 --> 01:06:23,220
S16: I had two guys laundering me $1 million every four months.

1298
01:06:23,380 --> 01:06:25,620
S16: And I built Dade County by the age of 23 years,

1299
01:06:25,660 --> 01:06:29,100
S16: 25 years old. And I skied behind President Ford's house.

1300
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:31,940
S16: I had monkeys, racing boats. I had everything a man wanted,

1301
01:06:32,380 --> 01:06:34,940
S16: but I was empty inside. And my mom used to

1302
01:06:34,940 --> 01:06:36,460
S16: take me to church and I was a little boy.

1303
01:06:37,340 --> 01:06:39,940
S16: My favorite verse was Philippians 413. I can do everything

1304
01:06:39,980 --> 01:06:42,340
S16: through Christ who gives me the strength. And even though

1305
01:06:42,340 --> 01:06:44,550
S16: I built a cartel in the United States of America.

1306
01:06:44,870 --> 01:06:46,710
S16: Every Tuesday when I used to meet the cartel of

1307
01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:49,669
S16: Pablo Escobar in Miami to talk about the shipment of drugs,

1308
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:51,430
S16: just like Donald Trump was blowing them up. I usually

1309
01:06:51,430 --> 01:06:53,910
S16: have five a week, and I used to say, I

1310
01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:55,390
S16: used to tell him, don't touch your food. We're going

1311
01:06:55,390 --> 01:06:57,390
S16: to pray. And he's just telling me, you're a crazy Cuban.

1312
01:06:57,390 --> 01:06:59,350
S16: Don't you know who you are? Who we are? You're

1313
01:06:59,350 --> 01:07:01,630
S16: more lost. Someone to be found. We work for the

1314
01:07:01,630 --> 01:07:05,070
S16: biggest drug kingpin, Pablo Escobar. Yeah, but what I do

1315
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:06,990
S16: and got nothing to do with Jesus Christ died for

1316
01:07:06,990 --> 01:07:09,910
S16: me on the cross. And tell your story short. I

1317
01:07:09,910 --> 01:07:13,230
S16: just sent 180 kilos every Wednesday to Atlanta, Georgia. 80 kilos,

1318
01:07:13,230 --> 01:07:15,790
S16: Saint Petersburg, and ten kilos a day in Kansas City.

1319
01:07:15,790 --> 01:07:17,870
S16: And ten times 30. That's 300 kilos. I was just

1320
01:07:17,870 --> 01:07:18,390
S16: telling him a.

1321
01:07:18,430 --> 01:07:20,750
S6: Lot of drugs, man. What God do, bro?

1322
01:07:20,830 --> 01:07:25,350
S16: What happened? Yeah, I met I met four Canadians. Mo chillin,

1323
01:07:25,350 --> 01:07:28,110
S16: Steve and Denise on the honeymoon in Miami. And when

1324
01:07:28,110 --> 01:07:30,110
S16: I saw those shipment of drugs. I met him in

1325
01:07:30,110 --> 01:07:32,350
S16: the hotel. I told him, look, I'm married. I got

1326
01:07:32,350 --> 01:07:35,830
S16: five girlfriends besides my wife. Monkeys. I got everything a

1327
01:07:35,830 --> 01:07:38,990
S16: man wants. I think I'm gonna lose everything. My dad

1328
01:07:38,990 --> 01:07:40,350
S16: used to tell me. One day they're going to catch

1329
01:07:40,350 --> 01:07:41,510
S16: you in the key of your cell. They're going to

1330
01:07:41,510 --> 01:07:44,120
S16: make it a chocolate. The Canadians took me upstairs to

1331
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,880
S16: the room. They opened the Bible where it says, thou

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01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,680
S16: shalt not commit adultery. And right there, like Jesus said,

1333
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,920
S16: when I die, I'm raised. The Holy Spirit comes to

1334
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,560
S16: earth to convict the man of sin and teach him

1335
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,400
S16: the truth that got convicted of the Holy Spirit of adultery.

1336
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,560
S16: And I kneel down, I said, Jesus Christ, I want

1337
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,480
S16: to accept you as my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

1338
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,480
S16: Forgive me for my sins. I know you died on

1339
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:02,920
S16: the cross for us. He said, father, I know in

1340
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:04,480
S16: my heart you raised your son for the dead. I

1341
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,520
S16: surrendered my heart in my life. To Jesus Christ, I pray. Amen.

1342
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,240
S16: And when I got up from the ground, I felt

1343
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,040
S16: I feel peace. What's going on? He goes, man, God

1344
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,960
S16: called you to preach, and I called. I told my mom,

1345
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,840
S16: she's a Christian. I called my mom. My mom started crying.

1346
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,400
S16: I went to I went to Venezuela too many Republican

1347
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,519
S16: when they killed Pablo Escobar. Six months later, they paid

1348
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,680
S16: my trip to go to Colombia. Medellin and speak how

1349
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,639
S16: God could change a wreck like me. And I'm an

1350
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,040
S16: evangelist and preacher. I preaching in Dominican Republic and the

1351
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,720
S16: jails in Mexico and the worst jails over there.

1352
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,400
S6: I just built the Church of Goodness.

1353
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,840
S16: There's a book. There's a book about my life. It's

1354
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,420
S16: called for this reason, the cocaine Cartel for being a

1355
01:08:40,420 --> 01:08:42,700
S16: drug lord to serve the Lord. Yeah, you can get

1356
01:08:42,700 --> 01:08:44,820
S16: it on the Marco Santibanez ministry.

1357
01:08:45,020 --> 01:08:49,660
S6: Okay, listen, Marcos. Marcos, Marcos, listen to me. If you've

1358
01:08:49,660 --> 01:08:51,860
S6: heard my story, you know how much I connect with

1359
01:08:51,860 --> 01:08:54,420
S6: you at a heart level, bro. And I want to

1360
01:08:54,420 --> 01:08:56,900
S6: tell you, that is one of the coolest things going.

1361
01:08:56,939 --> 01:08:59,299
S6: And I'm going to I'm going to check this story

1362
01:08:59,300 --> 01:09:01,380
S6: out even more. And some people are hearing some of

1363
01:09:01,380 --> 01:09:04,740
S6: the stuff that Marcos just shared and they're going, come on,

1364
01:09:04,740 --> 01:09:07,820
S6: is that real? This is real. And by the way,

1365
01:09:07,820 --> 01:09:11,540
S6: those speedboats, they paid guys big money to rocket ship

1366
01:09:11,540 --> 01:09:14,379
S6: those things into Miami to drop off those big loads

1367
01:09:14,380 --> 01:09:16,020
S6: happened all the time.

1368
01:09:16,060 --> 01:09:16,380
S4: Wow.

1369
01:09:17,060 --> 01:09:21,100
S6: And what what he's saying this isn't he's not blowing smoke.

1370
01:09:21,140 --> 01:09:23,900
S6: This is real stuff. And, Marcos, I'm so glad you're

1371
01:09:23,900 --> 01:09:26,820
S6: tuned in to Carl and crew. It takes all kinds

1372
01:09:26,820 --> 01:09:28,660
S6: to make this show go round, doesn't it?

1373
01:09:29,020 --> 01:09:32,979
S4: I love that, Marcos. You are listening to Carl and

1374
01:09:32,979 --> 01:09:34,459
S4: crew on Moody Radio this morning.

1375
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:40,710
S6: Yeah, just thrilling, man. Just thrilling. Oh my goodness. You

1376
01:09:40,710 --> 01:09:42,470
S6: know what? I'm just going to sit there and just

1377
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:46,790
S6: say thank you, Lord. We've heard. Let's just go through

1378
01:09:46,790 --> 01:09:48,950
S6: it here. Someone was watching TV.

1379
01:09:49,830 --> 01:09:50,390
S4: Yes.

1380
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:53,309
S6: Uh, what are the other highlights we've hit here? Just

1381
01:09:53,310 --> 01:09:54,070
S6: in the last few minutes.

1382
01:09:54,110 --> 01:09:56,750
S4: Someone simply heard a voice from heaven.

1383
01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:58,189
S2: Yeah, walking out to their car.

1384
01:09:58,790 --> 01:10:03,429
S6: Yeah. Yeah. We got a guy that's, um, a biker.

1385
01:10:03,950 --> 01:10:04,629
S2: Oh, yeah.

1386
01:10:05,870 --> 01:10:10,750
S6: Campfire biker biker sitting on a Harley softail. Preaching the gospel.

1387
01:10:10,790 --> 01:10:12,669
S4: Unshackled radio programs.

1388
01:10:12,710 --> 01:10:13,430
S6: Unshackled.

1389
01:10:14,350 --> 01:10:15,150
S2: Yeah, man.

1390
01:10:16,710 --> 01:10:19,830
S6: How good is God? Boom! Crew. Wow. How good is God?

1391
01:10:19,830 --> 01:10:21,670
S6: And we're going to be. We're all going to go

1392
01:10:21,670 --> 01:10:24,830
S6: into this new Jerusalem. We're going to look around going, boy,

1393
01:10:24,830 --> 01:10:27,030
S6: when he said every nation, tribe and tongue, he really

1394
01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:29,509
S6: meant it. Look at all these crazy different people here.

1395
01:10:29,830 --> 01:10:31,309
S2: I love it so much.

1396
01:10:31,350 --> 01:10:32,150
S4: Beautiful picture.

1397
01:10:35,150 --> 01:10:36,790
S17: Oh my goodness.