WEBVTT - Hour 2: Your Holy Week Questions

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<v S1>Hello, friends. It's time for the second hour of Open

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<v S1>Line with Doctor Michael Ray Moody Radio's Bible Study Across America.

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<v S1>We're talking about your questions about the Bible, God and

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<v S1>the spiritual life. My name is Michael Ray. I'm the

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<v S1>academic dean. I'm the a professor of Jewish studies and

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<v S1>Bible at Moody Bible Institute. We're live today. We're sitting

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<v S1>around the radio kitchen table taking your questions. Time to

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<v S1>a second cup of coffee. I'm waiting for mine. I'm

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<v S1>going to get one in a minute. I hope you do,

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<v S1>because along with your Bibles open, we're ready to talk

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<v S1>about the scriptures and we're going to talk with, you know,

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<v S1>before we talk to Galen, I do want to mention this, uh,

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<v S1>you know, this is a time when people are kind

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<v S1>of making their final decisions for where their kids are

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<v S1>going to go to college in the fall, where their

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<v S1>grandkids are going. Kids are checking out places. Uh, I'd

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<v S1>like to encourage you to tell them to check out

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<v S1>Moody Bible Institute. We've got two experienced, Moody Fridays coming

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<v S1>up where you can come in and experience all that

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<v S1>Moody has to offer. Uh, it's April 25th and May 2nd.

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<v S1>I did want to mention that, uh, I am so

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<v S1>grateful to God I went to Moody. Uh, it gave

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<v S1>me a great foundation for life. Uh, it gave me

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<v S1>a great foundation for ministry. But a lot of people think, oh,

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<v S1>but I'm not going into vocational ministry. Let me tell you,

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<v S1>we're all going into ministry. If we love Jesus, we

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<v S1>have to serve him, and we're all going to serve

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<v S1>him for life. And Moody gives you a great foundation,

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<v S1>whether you're doing it as part of your vocation or

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<v S1>whether you're serving him in your local congregation or as

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<v S1>a volunteer in a different ministry. We're all going to

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<v S1>serve him. And so, uh, Moody gives you a great foundation.

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<v S1>I have friends who have been really committed servants of

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<v S1>the Lord who serve not only the Lord, but work

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<v S1>as attorneys, as bank presidents, as, uh, they are bankers.

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<v S1>They've worked as teachers in secular schools. They've done all

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<v S1>these things, and they all say that the foundation they

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<v S1>got at Moody Bible Institute changed their life for the better.

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<v S1>So check out, Moody. Go to Moody and you can

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<v S1>to check it out. So and if you're listening and you're, uh,

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<v S1>considering it, you check it out, too. Uh, we're going

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<v S1>to talk to Galen in Ohio, listening on CRF. Welcome

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<v S1>to Openline, Galen. How can I help you today? Or

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<v S1>did he just hang up? I think he just went away.

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<v S1>Just missed out. He couldn't. Wait another minute. There we go. Uh,

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<v S1>we're going to talk to Paul in big water, Utah.

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<v S1>What a great name. Listening on KP. Uh, welcome to

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<v S1>Open Line. Paul. How can I help you?

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<v S2>Well, thank you, David, for taking my call. Appreciate it.

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<v S1>Well, David, who are we talking to?

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<v S2>I'm sorry. Michael. Thank you, thank you.

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<v S1>Okay, Fred. There we go. No. Paul. Paul.

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<v S2>Paul. Okay. My question. Um, did any of the people

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<v S2>that came dwelt with after he killed Abel descend to

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<v S2>any of the 12 tribes of Israel? And where are

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<v S2>those people today?

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<v S1>Well, everyone died in the flood. You remember that, right?

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<v S1>There was a universal flood. So the way we ultimately

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<v S1>got the tribes of Israel is, if you look at

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<v S1>the genealogy, genealogy, however you say it of, uh, of

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<v S1>Seth in chapter five, uh, you see the genealogy of Seth,

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<v S1>and it comes down to verse, uh, 32. Noah was

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<v S1>500 years old, and he fathered Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

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<v S1>So everyone that lived after the flood descended from either Shem,

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<v S1>Ham and Japheth, and, uh. And none of them, none

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<v S1>of those three actually descended from Cain. They all came

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<v S1>from the line of Seth, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And

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<v S1>then if you keep reading that, you'll find that when

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<v S1>you see the further genealogy, the the genealogy of Shem, uh,

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<v S1>leads to it says in chapter ten, verse 21. And Shem,

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<v S1>Japheth's older brother, also had son. Shem was the father

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<v S1>of all the sons of Eber. Shem sons were Elam, Asher, Arpachshad, Lud,

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<v S1>and Aram. And then it starts talking about them. And uh,

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<v S1>ultimately when you go through all these, uh, in verse 25,

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<v S1>it says, uh, Eber, that's one of the sons of

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<v S1>Shem had two sons. One was named Peleg, for during

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<v S1>his days the earth was divided. His brother was named Joktan.

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<v S1>And it is from, uh, that line, uh, that we get, uh,

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<v S1>shem's sons. And of course, out of Shem's sons comes Terah,

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<v S1>which leads to Abraham, which leads to the 12 tribes.

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<v S1>That's what you've got. So, uh, so that's. And you

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<v S1>can see that in chapter. 11, verse 16. Eber lived

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<v S1>34 years, fathered Peleg, and it gives his line all

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<v S1>the way down to Abraham. Okay. So none of the

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<v S1>the sons of Cain are not part of the people

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<v S1>of Israel or anyone around them.

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<v S2>Okay.

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<v S1>Okay. Um, that's probably more detailed. I probably should have

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<v S1>put a chart up with all the genealogies in the

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<v S1>Book of Genesis, but it's there in the Bible. We

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<v S1>should know it. Okay.

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<v S2>Well, thank you very much. Have a great day.

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<v S1>Yep. Uh, we're going to talk with Dave, uh, in Holland, Michigan,

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<v S1>listening on WGN. Welcome to Open Line, Dave. How can

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<v S1>I help you?

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<v S3>Thank you very much, sir. I appreciate you taking my call. Sure.

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<v S3>My question is, I have a friend of mine who's

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<v S3>recently become convinced that we should be following all the

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<v S3>food laws, all the feast laws of the Mosaic Law,

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<v S3>and if not actually out of obligation, that at the

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<v S3>very least, it is going to be one of the things,

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<v S3>whether we follow or do not follow will be used

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<v S3>to consider what our level of reward would be in heaven.

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<v S3>I'm just curious about the whole relationship with the original law,

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<v S3>and obviously you're in a specific position to know all

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<v S3>about that.

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<v S1>Well, let me let me just say about, uh, that

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<v S1>we're we're under a law. We're not without law. But

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<v S1>the New Testament calls it the law of Messiah. It

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<v S1>doesn't call it the Law of Moses any longer. It

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<v S1>calls it the law of Messiah. If you go back

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<v S1>to Judaism, Judaism even said when the Messiah came, he

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<v S1>would establish a new law, not like the Mosaic law.

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<v S1>I think that's important for us to remember that the

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<v S1>idea would would come about like that. Uh, in fact,

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<v S1>what the Hebrew Bible says in Jeremiah 31, I will

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<v S1>give you a new covenant, not like the covenant I

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<v S1>made when I brought you out of Egypt, the covenant

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<v S1>I gave through the mosaic covenant. Not like the covenant

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<v S1>I gave you when you came out of Egypt. Uh,

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<v S1>but a new covenant. I'll place my law in your

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<v S1>inward parts as well. So. It's pretty clear to me

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<v S1>that we're under the New Covenant, not the Old covenant

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<v S1>in the New Testament. Now, obviously the whole Bible is

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<v S1>our authority, but we have to look at the the

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<v S1>laws of the Torah as wisdom. Now, another thing is

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<v S1>pretty clear from acts 15 and from earlier parts, that

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<v S1>Jewish believers who want to can keep Torah. That's you know,

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<v S1>you know, you see Paul in the book of acts,

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<v S1>you know, I've done nothing against the customs of our fathers,

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<v S1>he says. Uh, he he always identifies. First Corinthians nine.

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<v S1>He says to the Jews, I became as a Jew, uh,

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<v S1>to as those to those under the law. As when

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<v S1>under the law. Right. So, so, um, you know, I

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<v S1>think that would be true for anyone that out of liberty,

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<v S1>out of significance, out of meaning, they can keep Torah,

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<v S1>they can keep holidays, they can do all that, but

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<v S1>they can't impose that on someone else. Uh, that's what

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<v S1>it seems like to me. We have freedom, not mandate

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<v S1>a mandate. It's significant, but it's not required. And I

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<v S1>would say to anyone that tells you this, uh, to read, uh,

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<v S1>Colossians 216, therefore, don't let anyone judge you in regard

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<v S1>to food and drink or in the matter of a festival,

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<v S1>or a new moon or a Sabbath day. These are

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<v S1>a shadow of what was to come. The substance is

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<v S1>the Messiah. So, uh, I would say that's that's the

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<v S1>guideline I would give you. Okay, Dave.

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<v S3>And would someone would someone be giving anything up in

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<v S3>heaven as far as level of reward by not following

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<v S3>the Torah?

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<v S1>Well. As I said, if you're following the New covenant now,

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<v S1>there are many things from the Torah that are in

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<v S1>the New Covenant. You know, if you go to the

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<v S1>the Torah, it says, don't commit adultery. So does the

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<v S1>New covenant. Right, right. Yeah.

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<v S4>I get it.

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<v S1>But, uh, what we're we're we're our standard is the

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<v S1>new covenant. So if you're not keeping kosher, I wouldn't worry,

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<v S1>especially if you're not Jewish. I mean, really? So. Yeah. Okay.

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<v S4>All right.

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<v S1>Uh. Colossians two. Okay. Go there. Okay.

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<v S4>Yep. Yep.

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<v S1>Thanks for your call, Dave. Appreciate it. Uh, well, uh,

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<v S1>people wonder, how do we get our Bible? How did

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<v S1>we get the scriptures? Uh, how did it go from

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<v S1>Go right back to the phones and talk with Larry

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<v S1>in North Augusta, South Carolina listening on. Welcome to Open Line, Larry.

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<v S1>How can I help you?

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<v S5>Thank you. I like your show a lot. I listen

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<v S5>to it some a good many Saturdays. Uh, my question is, uh.

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<v S5>Thank you. My question is, uh, King David's people that

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<v S5>would be alive today. Do they do they know they

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<v S5>were kin to him? And or is there a way

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<v S5>that they could tell?

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<v S4>Well, there there we can tell.

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<v S1>We can tell who is Jewish through DNA studies. Uh, But,

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<v S1>you know, one of the things that there are two

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<v S1>categories of Jewish people. There's the Mizrahim or Sephardim, they

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<v S1>are the Jews that are from the East, from the

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<v S1>Arab world. And they also they originated actually from Spain. Uh,

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<v S1>what happened is they they went to there were some

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<v S1>that were like in Babylon from ancient days, but then

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<v S1>there were some Jews that went to Spain. Spain is sepharad. And, uh,

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<v S1>they are known as Sephardim. So. And they're very they're

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<v S1>their DNA is really, really similar to the Jews in

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<v S1>the Arab world that went there because of the exile,

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<v S1>particularly to Babylon. Uh, in the exile. Uh, and then, uh,

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<v S1>there's also Jewish people who are called Ashkenazim. The word

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<v S1>Ashkenaz comes from the word for Germany, and they are

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<v S1>the ones that were in Western, central and Eastern Europe,

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<v S1>not southern Europe, but like by Spain, but other places.

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<v S1>Today they've scattered through Eastern Europe, uh, Poland and Germany,

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<v S1>and then of course Poland, Germany, Poland, Russia. Many perished

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<v S1>in the Holocaust. Uh, that was predominantly, uh, the Jews

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<v S1>that perished. And, uh, other interesting studies have shown with

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<v S1>DNA that there's a common source for the Mizrahi or

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<v S1>Sephardic Jews. Those Jewish people, along with the they have

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<v S1>a common source. All of them have a common source.

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<v S1>So all these things where people are saying, oh, the

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<v S1>Jewish people aren't really the Jewish people of the Bible,

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<v S1>they're all mistaken. They, they the DNA studies have confirmed

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<v S1>that Jewish people are indeed the same people descended from

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<v S1>the people who were in the land of Israel now?

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<v S1>Do they know if they're from the tribe of Judah

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<v S1>and related to David? That I don't think we've gotten

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<v S1>down to that because we don't have, uh, David's DNA

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<v S1>to compare it to that. But, uh, but we do

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<v S1>know that we can trace the Jewish people back to

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<v S1>biblical days with DNA. Okay.

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<v S5>All right. Thank you. That's been on my mind. I

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<v S5>appreciate you. I appreciate.

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<v S4>It. Sure.

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<v S1>Sure. I appreciate.

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<v S4>The call.

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<v S1>Uh, we're going to talk to Kathy in Georgia, listening

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<v S1>on a smart speaker. Boy, it's really smart if it

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<v S1>knows how to listen to this. That's great. Kathy, how

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<v S1>can I help you today?

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<v S6>Good morning, sir. You've taught us to pray in the

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<v S6>name of the father, through the blood of Jesus and

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<v S6>in the power of the spirit. Sometimes I need to

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<v S6>just shoot up a prayer in the middle of Something

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<v S6>going on. And I wondered if I could just say,

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<v S6>Dear Jesus and just make it kind of a quick prayer.

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<v S6>But do I need to say all that or just

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<v S6>once a day say those things?

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<v S1>Well, I think when we're having our time of prayer,

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<v S1>I think we should pray in the name of to the.

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<v S1>We pray to God the Father in the name of

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<v S1>the son, by the power of the spirit. There's no

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<v S1>question that that's what the Bible teaches us. But I

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<v S1>think you're asking more about, uh, a Nehemiah prayer. I

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<v S1>call them, uh, in in Nehemiah it says, uh.

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<v S4>That, uh.

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<v S1>That he, he was before the king. And, uh, the

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<v S1>king said, This is Nehemiah two. The king asked him,

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<v S1>why are you sad? and I was overwhelmed with fear

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<v S1>and replied to the king because you should never be

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<v S1>sad in front of the king. So he tells him

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<v S1>why he's sad and the king asks me, what is

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<v S1>your request? And then verse four in the middle it says,

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<v S1>so I pray to the God of heaven and answered

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<v S1>the king, so that prayer must have been just a

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<v S1>momentary prayer. Don't you think.

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<v S4>He prayed.

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<v S1>To the God of heaven and answered, and I think

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<v S1>that's what you're asking about. How do I do a

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<v S1>Nehemiah prayer? Well, truth to tell, uh, I don't I

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<v S1>think this is important for you to get a grasp

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<v S1>of this. God isn't a legalist. He's not going to

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<v S1>ignore you if you say, Lord Jesus and and and

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<v S1>send up one of these Nehemiah prayers, he's not going

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<v S1>to say, ah, that didn't follow the form that I

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<v S1>taught in the Bible. So I'm not listening. He's not

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<v S1>a legalist like that. He will listen, uh, when we

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<v S1>cry out to him, that's the first thing. And then, uh, secondly,

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<v S1>we have an example of someone who had one of

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<v S1>those momentary prayers and prayed to the Lord Jesus. And

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<v S1>that's Steven when he was dying in acts seven, uh,

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<v S1>after his sermon, he said, Lord Jesus, until you, you know,

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<v S1>into your hands I commit my spirit. So he prayed

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<v S1>to the Lord Jesus as he died. That was one

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<v S1>of those emergency prayers, don't you think?

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<v S4>And and yes.

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<v S1>The Lord received it and heard him and welcomed him home. So, uh,

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<v S1>don't don't think I'm saying that God's a legalist and

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<v S1>that this is it. But in the normal circumstances of life,

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<v S1>when we sit down to pray, I really do believe

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<v S1>we should pray to the father in the name of

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<v S1>the son. We. That's why. That's why in Jesus name

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<v S1>is not a just a rote saying that we say

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<v S1>at the end of a prayer, uh, meaning. And now

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<v S1>we're done. No, we pray in the name of Jesus

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<v S1>because he's our representative. We don't deserve anything before the father,

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<v S1>but he can represent us. He's our advocate. Uh, it

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<v S1>says in first John two one and two. And so

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<v S1>that's why we pray in Jesus name. He told us

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<v S1>to ask anything in his name. And then when I say,

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<v S1>by the power of the Holy Spirit, we allow the

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<v S1>Holy Spirit to work in our hearts and allow us

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<v S1>to consider what should we pray about? What is the

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<v S1>Holy Spirit putting on our hearts to pray? And it

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<v S1>doesn't have to be a big emotional thing. I think, Lord,

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<v S1>let the spirit guide my prayer list and and he

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<v S1>shows me what I should be praying. And that's what

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<v S1>I mean by praying in the power of the spirit. Okay.

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<v S6>Yes, sir. Thank you so much.

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<v S1>Yeah. Thank you so much for your call. Appreciate it. Uh,

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<v S1>we're going to talk. We're going to talk to Davis

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<v S1>in South Carolina. Welcome to Open Line. Davis, how can

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<v S1>I help you today?

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<v S7>Bless you. Doctor. Thank you so much. Yeah. I just

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<v S7>wanted to, um, to expound just a minute or two

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<v S7>on what Amy, um, question was concerning the Passover. And

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<v S7>that was good. That was good. I just want to

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<v S7>say that, um, Jesus had to come off the cross

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<v S7>on that Friday because according to God's word, from sun

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<v S7>up to sundown is a new day. Mhm. From sun

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<v S7>up to sundown is a new day. Friday was already in.

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<v S7>If the sun had went down on Jesus on that Friday,

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<v S7>it would have entered into Sabbath. So they were very.

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<v S7>So the people were very concerned that we got to

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<v S7>get him off the cross. We can't leave him up

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<v S7>here or we're going to have problems in this city.

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<v S7>So they took him down because. Because the Sabbath was

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<v S7>coming in. And of course, we know the Bible says

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<v S7>the Sabbath is made for man and not man for

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<v S7>the Sabbath. Uh, so that's the reason why they took

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<v S7>Jesus off the cross? Because the Sabbath was coming in?

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<v S1>Yes. And and and the question was what day? It

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<v S1>was clearly Friday, because it was the Sabbath coming. Right.

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<v S1>That's what your point is, right?

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<v S7>Yes. Yes yes, yes. Yeah. That that was my point.

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<v S7>And I just wanted an amen. And others, you know, to,

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<v S7>to at least, uh, understand that as well. You know, I, uh, I,

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<v S7>I've taught Jewish study, uh, for quite some time and, uh,

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<v S7>and I keep the Sabbath. I'm a Sabbath keeper. Okay. And, uh, so. Yes. But.

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<v S1>Well, thank you for your call, Davis. I appreciate the input,

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<v S1>I really do. Thank you. Okay. You have a great day.

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<v S1>Bye bye. Uh, we're going to talk with Lewis in

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<v S1>Deerfield Beach, Florida. Listening to welcome to Open Line. Lewis.

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<v S1>How can I help you today?

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<v S8>Hey, how are you? Doctor. How are you, man?

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<v S1>I am well, thank you.

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<v S8>This is my question. Um, I was reading that, um, the, um, uh,

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<v S8>Mary's parents immaculate conception, that Mary's parents were without sin

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<v S8>in order, in order to Christ to come through the.

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<v S8>Through Mary. Uh, is that true?

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<v S1>The. Was Mary without sin? No. The only the only Mary.

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<v S8>Mary's parents that were born.

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<v S1>Well, no, Mary wasn't without sin. That's what they're saying.

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<v S1>That's what the Immaculate Conception is, that Mary was conceived

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<v S1>and did not have sin in her. It's not talking

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<v S1>about her parents when it talks about the Immaculate Conception,

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<v S1>it's people, uh, believe that there are people who believe

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<v S1>that that Mary was sinless. Now, according to scripture, the

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<v S1>only one who never sinned was her son, the Lord Jesus. Absolutely. And, uh,

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<v S1>not only that, in her Magnificat, her her prayer, uh,

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<v S1>that that she offered when she heard about the that

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<v S1>she was going to bear a son, uh, in the Magnificat,

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<v S1>she calls God her Redeemer, her Savior. And and so

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<v S1>it says, my spirit. In Luke chapter one, verse 47,

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<v S1>my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior, because he

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<v S1>looked with favor on his, on the humble condition of

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<v S1>his slave. Now how does she call God her Savior?

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<v S1>If she was sinless, she wouldn't need a Savior. So

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<v S1>for that reason, I think it's pretty clear that Mary

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<v S1>was a wonderful, godly woman. Clearly wonderful, godly woman. Very

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<v S1>much living according to the scriptures and faithful. But she

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<v S1>was not sinless. Well, we're going to come back with

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:44.200
<v S1>the Febc mailbag in just a moment, so stay with us.

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<v S1>This is Open Line with Michael Melnick. Thanks for listening.

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<v S1>you to Hira for sitting in today for Trish.

0:27:00.750 --> 0:27:02.910
<v S9>I am happy to be here. Thank you so much

0:27:03.270 --> 0:27:04.070
<v S9>for having me.

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<v S1>You know where Trish is right now.

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<v S9>Where is Tricia?

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<v S1>She's with her kids, uh, at an Easter egg hunt.

0:27:11.070 --> 0:27:14.429
<v S1>Because it's spring break, and that's why she's not here today.

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<v S9>How fun.

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<v S1>Yeah. Yep. Easter egg hunt. You know where the the.

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<v S1>I think this is interesting. People think that the egg

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<v S1>Came to Easter. This is kind of bizarro. Uh, they

0:27:28.859 --> 0:27:32.420
<v S1>they when they kind of merged back in the fourth century,

0:27:32.420 --> 0:27:35.580
<v S1>they adapted a date by Constantine at the Council of

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<v S1>Nicaea to make it part of when the pagan festivals

0:27:38.900 --> 0:27:40.940
<v S1>were in the spring. And of course, some people said

0:27:40.940 --> 0:27:44.060
<v S1>they were fertility rites. And so the egg became prominent.

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<v S1>And that's where it came from. Sort of a syncretism.

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<v S1>Could be. I don't know. But, uh, part of the Seder,

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<v S1>the Passover meal, was the egg that you eat in saltwater.

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<v S1>And the reason the rabbi said we didn't egg in

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<v S1>saltwater is that the egg represents the daily sacrifice, because

0:28:03.660 --> 0:28:09.020
<v S1>every day the hen would lay an egg. And so

0:28:09.020 --> 0:28:12.659
<v S1>every day there was a sacrifice. And then, uh, it

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<v S1>was eaten in salt water because the temple was destroyed

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<v S1>and because the temple was destroyed. We were sad. So

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<v S1>we eat, we dip it or eat it with salt

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<v S1>water to show our tears at the destruction of the temple.

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<v S1>I eat an egg in salt water at my Seder,

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<v S1>because I am sad that my people don't know that

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<v S1>there is. There is a remaining sacrifice for them, a

0:28:33.570 --> 0:28:36.570
<v S1>sacrifice for their sins, the Messiah. But here's the thing.

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<v S1>It was Judaism that took the egg first, and it

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<v S1>had nothing to do with paganism. And and I think

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<v S1>that's where the church got the egg thing.

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<v S9>Thank you for that.

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<v S1>That that's kind of a different take on that. But anyway, uh, uh,

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<v S1>I don't think they realized where it comes from. Nevertheless, uh,

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<v S1>we've got the mailbag there. Thanks. Oh, I did want

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<v S1>to say thanks for being part of the team, too.

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<v S1>And I need to remind everyone that if you are

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0:29:13.250 --> 0:29:17.330
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0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:18.160
<v S1>these questions.

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<v S9>Yes. The first one is from Sue in North Carolina.

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<v S9>Listening through. My pastor says, if you believe in Christ,

0:30:27.700 --> 0:30:30.500
<v S9>you are saved. If a person says they believe in

0:30:30.500 --> 0:30:33.260
<v S9>God and Christ His son, and they believe that he

0:30:33.260 --> 0:30:35.860
<v S9>died for our sins, but they don't go to church

0:30:35.860 --> 0:30:39.860
<v S9>or read the Bible or talk about God. And, um,

0:30:39.900 --> 0:30:42.700
<v S9>it's not by works. Are they truly saved?

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<v S1>Well, the gospel is that a person has to believe

0:30:45.820 --> 0:30:48.300
<v S1>that Jesus died for their sins and rose again, and

0:30:48.300 --> 0:30:53.260
<v S1>that proves he's God. That's what it is. Now, there

0:30:53.260 --> 0:30:57.220
<v S1>are people out there that seem to have no fruit

0:30:57.220 --> 0:31:01.219
<v S1>in their lives. And we think, well, uh, they probably

0:31:01.220 --> 0:31:04.340
<v S1>don't know the Lord, but they never deny their faith.

0:31:05.260 --> 0:31:09.660
<v S1>They just say it's not affecting my life. They don't

0:31:09.660 --> 0:31:11.580
<v S1>have Jesus in their life. They have Jesus in their

0:31:11.580 --> 0:31:15.220
<v S1>future life. They say, now, this is a weird thing.

0:31:15.220 --> 0:31:17.610
<v S1>What I would say is, I don't know their hearts.

0:31:17.930 --> 0:31:19.690
<v S1>I don't know if there's a little bit of fruit

0:31:19.690 --> 0:31:22.370
<v S1>that God can see that I can't. So I try

0:31:22.410 --> 0:31:26.210
<v S1>never to judge a person depending on their profession. If

0:31:26.210 --> 0:31:31.930
<v S1>they profess faith, I, I want to can agree with that. Now,

0:31:31.930 --> 0:31:35.450
<v S1>I think it's interesting that in first Corinthians five when

0:31:35.490 --> 0:31:40.370
<v S1>Paul is addressing, uh, a member of the body of

0:31:40.370 --> 0:31:45.170
<v S1>in Corinth who is in sexual sin. Paul doesn't deny

0:31:45.170 --> 0:31:49.330
<v S1>that he's a believer, even though that there's very little

0:31:49.330 --> 0:31:55.170
<v S1>fruit in his life. But instead he says this so-called brother,

0:31:55.370 --> 0:31:56.530
<v S1>that's how he describes him.

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<v S9>Okay.

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<v S1>So he says, well, he's claiming to be a brother.

0:32:00.410 --> 0:32:02.210
<v S1>We're going to deal with him as such. But he's

0:32:02.210 --> 0:32:07.690
<v S1>so called because I have my doubts about him. So, uh,

0:32:08.010 --> 0:32:11.210
<v S1>but even then, Paul doesn't deny that he's a brother.

0:32:11.210 --> 0:32:13.930
<v S1>He just calls him a so-called brother. So that's what

0:32:13.930 --> 0:32:17.160
<v S1>I would say. I would encourage anyone that professes faith

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:20.560
<v S1>if you love me, you'll obey my commandments. Jesus said,

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:24.640
<v S1>anyone I talk to who loves Jesus and isn't in

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:27.200
<v S1>my sense walking with them, I would just encourage them, hey,

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:29.880
<v S1>you know your life will flourish. Your life will be

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.920
<v S1>better if you if we obey him. So that's that's

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:34.720
<v S1>where I would go.

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<v S9>Thank you for that answer, Michael. And that question, Sue.

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:42.040
<v S9>Our next question is from Mary in Illinois with WNBA.

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:45.920
<v S9>She said my niece is professor at a university, is

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:50.760
<v S9>saying that Israel should be held accountable for genocide. And

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:52.280
<v S9>what are your thoughts about that?

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<v S1>Well, it sounds like it's a professor saying such things

0:32:55.920 --> 0:33:03.560
<v S1>as our college campuses have been inundated with falsehoods about Israel. Uh, and,

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:08.239
<v S1>you know, it's it's part of, uh, Hamas's plan to

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:11.160
<v S1>do this. Let me just say straight out that, first

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.990
<v S1>of all, that this didn't start with the current Gaza war.

0:33:15.030 --> 0:33:19.910
<v S1>It actually began years ago, like about 2005 is when

0:33:19.910 --> 0:33:22.110
<v S1>all of a sudden, hey, let's call this genocide. I

0:33:22.150 --> 0:33:29.150
<v S1>call that Holocaust inversion. The anti-Semites today don't want to, uh,

0:33:29.630 --> 0:33:32.710
<v S1>say that Jewish people were subject to genocide. They were

0:33:32.710 --> 0:33:36.030
<v S1>the objects of genocide. In fact, a Jewish person named

0:33:36.030 --> 0:33:38.710
<v S1>Lemkin is the one that came up with the term

0:33:38.710 --> 0:33:44.990
<v S1>for genocide to describe the Holocaust. And so, uh, I

0:33:44.990 --> 0:33:48.830
<v S1>think it was Rudolph or Raphael, Raphael Lemkin that that

0:33:48.830 --> 0:33:53.310
<v S1>came up with that name, that term, uh, and anti-Semites

0:33:53.310 --> 0:33:57.950
<v S1>today want to absolve their own sense of guilt for

0:33:57.950 --> 0:34:00.390
<v S1>what happened to the Jewish people by accusing the Jewish

0:34:00.390 --> 0:34:04.950
<v S1>people of being guilty of genocide. And that's why they

0:34:04.950 --> 0:34:08.030
<v S1>accused Israel of genocide. It is a lie on the

0:34:08.030 --> 0:34:11.390
<v S1>face of it. In this current war, people are shouting genocide. Genocide!

0:34:11.390 --> 0:34:17.700
<v S1>50,000 dead. claiming 70% of the dead are women and children. Well,

0:34:17.739 --> 0:34:22.500
<v S1>just a few weeks ago, even Hamas took those names

0:34:22.500 --> 0:34:26.180
<v S1>of women and children off their lists. They decided, oh,

0:34:26.219 --> 0:34:28.500
<v S1>this isn't going to work. So even they backed off

0:34:28.500 --> 0:34:34.540
<v S1>of that charge. They don't ever describe how many of

0:34:34.580 --> 0:34:41.140
<v S1>the people who died in Gaza are, uh, are combatants, uh,

0:34:41.260 --> 0:34:44.940
<v S1>with the the majority of them are combatants. And another

0:34:44.940 --> 0:34:49.660
<v S1>thing that comes about, yes, there are tragic civilian, uh,

0:34:49.660 --> 0:34:55.380
<v S1>collateral deaths. And it's tragic. It's horrible. Uh, Israel doesn't

0:34:55.380 --> 0:34:58.660
<v S1>want to have collateral deaths. In fact, Israel is so careful,

0:34:58.660 --> 0:35:01.620
<v S1>they announce where they're going. They they try to get

0:35:01.980 --> 0:35:06.980
<v S1>civilians out of areas of fire so that they won't have, uh,

0:35:07.380 --> 0:35:12.610
<v S1>civilian collateral death. And John Spencer from from West Point.

0:35:12.610 --> 0:35:18.009
<v S1>The foremost expert on urban warfare says Israel has the

0:35:18.010 --> 0:35:23.210
<v S1>lowest collateral civilian death of any war that has ever

0:35:23.210 --> 0:35:26.170
<v S1>been fought in an urban area because Israel is so careful.

0:35:26.210 --> 0:35:28.610
<v S1>Let me just put it this way. One last thing

0:35:29.010 --> 0:35:34.049
<v S1>about this. There are about 500 to maybe 700,000 Palestinian

0:35:34.730 --> 0:35:39.490
<v S1>refugees in 1948, people who fled what was then called

0:35:39.489 --> 0:35:43.410
<v S1>Palestine as the state was partitioned and it was going

0:35:43.410 --> 0:35:45.410
<v S1>to be a Jewish and Arab state, the Arab states

0:35:45.410 --> 0:35:54.810
<v S1>rejected it. Many Palestinians fled, uh, and as a result,

0:35:54.810 --> 0:35:58.009
<v S1>there were about 5 to 700,000. The numbers vary, but

0:35:58.010 --> 0:36:00.850
<v S1>no more than 700,000. At the same time, there were

0:36:00.850 --> 0:36:04.810
<v S1>750,000 Jewish refugees from the Arab world, and they just

0:36:04.810 --> 0:36:09.170
<v S1>got incorporated into Israel. But what happened to the Palestinian refugees?

0:36:09.210 --> 0:36:11.600
<v S1>Today there are 14 million plus.

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:12.920
<v S9>Okay.

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:17.240
<v S1>That's. That doesn't sound like a genocide to me. Uh,

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:26.360
<v S1>also in Israel itself or the West Bank, Gaza, uh,

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:30.160
<v S1>areas like that, uh, there are about five and a

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:36.280
<v S1>half to 6 million Palestinians, descendants of those refugees. Listen,

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:41.480
<v S1>my parents were Holocaust survivors. We lost all our family. Uh, I,

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.840
<v S1>I have hardly any family members. When you think about it,

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:50.120
<v S1>there were 9 million Jewish people in, uh, in Europe.

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:55.680
<v S1>6 million were murdered. And it's only recently that the

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:59.560
<v S1>world Jewish population came up to what it was at

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:03.440
<v S1>the at the eve of World War two. Uh, this, uh,

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:10.430
<v S1>this is a wrong, anti-Semitic driven, spurious Lie against Israel,

0:37:10.430 --> 0:37:14.910
<v S1>that they are somehow carrying out a genocide against the

0:37:14.910 --> 0:37:18.230
<v S1>Palestinian people. And if you want to know, I'll tell

0:37:18.230 --> 0:37:21.110
<v S1>you what I really think. That's what I think. Okay.

0:37:21.150 --> 0:37:23.790
<v S9>Thank you. Michael, it is certainly a time for prayers,

0:37:23.790 --> 0:37:26.750
<v S9>but thank you for that response. Do we have time

0:37:26.750 --> 0:37:27.350
<v S9>for one more?

0:37:27.870 --> 0:37:28.430
<v S1>Uh, yeah.

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<v S9>Okay. We'll do Joe in Delaware. How is it that

0:37:32.230 --> 0:37:36.270
<v S9>the yeast referred to in Matthew 1333 is often taught

0:37:36.270 --> 0:37:39.630
<v S9>to be the gospel as a symbol of growth, when

0:37:39.670 --> 0:37:43.070
<v S9>yeast is always a symbol of sin throughout the scriptures.

0:37:43.710 --> 0:37:47.469
<v S1>It's that the answer is it's not always a symbol

0:37:47.469 --> 0:37:52.190
<v S1>of sin. It's sometimes a symbol of sin. That's how

0:37:52.190 --> 0:37:55.910
<v S1>it is with figures of speech. They're not always consistently

0:37:55.910 --> 0:37:59.390
<v S1>used in the same way. The reason it's frequently used

0:37:59.390 --> 0:38:01.910
<v S1>as a symbol of sin is because the way yeast

0:38:01.950 --> 0:38:05.950
<v S1>grows and spreads. But it really is a symbol of

0:38:06.150 --> 0:38:09.980
<v S1>growth And the kingdom of God is going to grow.

0:38:12.460 --> 0:38:17.340
<v S1>That that's why it uses yeast of it for it. Uh,

0:38:17.340 --> 0:38:21.500
<v S1>but because it grows, it's also considered a symbol of sin,

0:38:21.700 --> 0:38:26.939
<v S1>the leaven of malice. In First Corinthians five, uh, and

0:38:26.940 --> 0:38:29.739
<v S1>places where like. Beware, beware of the leaven of the

0:38:29.739 --> 0:38:33.339
<v S1>Pharisees and the Sadducees, the leaven of the Pharisees being hypocrisy,

0:38:33.340 --> 0:38:37.460
<v S1>the leaven of the Sadducees being unbelief. Those sins grow

0:38:37.460 --> 0:38:41.299
<v S1>and spread. That's that's why it's used as leaven. But

0:38:41.300 --> 0:38:44.900
<v S1>it's not 100% always something sinful. So. Okay.

0:38:44.940 --> 0:38:45.540
<v S9>Thank you.

0:38:45.739 --> 0:38:48.900
<v S1>Yeah. We're going to take a break here. And, uh,

0:38:49.580 --> 0:38:52.299
<v S1>when we come back, we'll take more of your questions

0:38:52.300 --> 0:38:55.260
<v S1>right here on Open Line. My name is Michael Ray Jelinek.

0:38:55.300 --> 0:38:58.900
<v S1>That was Tara Haynes. Keep on listening. We're going to

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<v S1>be back with more calls straight ahead, right here on

0:39:03.660 --> 0:39:25.489
<v S1>Moody Radio's Open Line. Welcome back to Open Line. I

0:39:25.570 --> 0:39:29.370
<v S1>am so glad to be with you today. A couple

0:39:29.370 --> 0:39:34.010
<v S1>of things I need to mention. Uh, first of all, uh,

0:39:34.010 --> 0:39:38.570
<v S1>I'd like you to check out, uh, Open Line radio.org

0:39:38.570 --> 0:39:41.250
<v S1>and scroll down to where it says check out Michael's

0:39:41.570 --> 0:39:45.130
<v S1>personal web page. It's got a couple of things coming up, uh,

0:39:46.330 --> 0:39:49.529
<v S1>that are very exciting for me next fall. Uh, hope

0:39:49.530 --> 0:39:52.810
<v S1>it'll be exciting for you, too. We're going back to

0:39:52.850 --> 0:39:55.090
<v S1>Israel for the first time in a couple of years,

0:39:55.130 --> 0:39:58.930
<v S1>and it's safe there now. And, uh, people are really

0:39:58.930 --> 0:40:00.969
<v S1>wanting to show their solidarity. A lot of people have

0:40:00.969 --> 0:40:03.810
<v S1>been asking me to take them to Israel, so check

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<v S1>Florida Keys. Welcome to Open Line, Sue. How can I

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<v S1>help you?

0:41:18.660 --> 0:41:21.100
<v S10>Hi. Thank you for what you do here with this

0:41:21.100 --> 0:41:25.260
<v S10>radio program. It's always very helpful. Um, my question was,

0:41:25.260 --> 0:41:28.580
<v S10>I have been praying for my daughter's salvation for 40 years.

0:41:28.620 --> 0:41:33.379
<v S10>And every day that's in my prayer journal. And I

0:41:33.380 --> 0:41:36.020
<v S10>was wondering if when I get to heaven, if I

0:41:36.020 --> 0:41:38.500
<v S10>would be able to intercede at the throne of grace

0:41:38.500 --> 0:41:42.700
<v S10>for her salvation. Is there prayer in heaven for those

0:41:42.700 --> 0:41:44.299
<v S10>on earth? I guess is my question.

0:41:44.980 --> 0:41:48.140
<v S1>Well, some people think, uh, for example, in revelation 12,

0:41:48.140 --> 0:41:50.580
<v S1>where it talks about the incense being the prayer of

0:41:50.580 --> 0:41:53.940
<v S1>the saints. But I think it's the prayers of the

0:41:53.980 --> 0:42:01.100
<v S1>saints on earth, not not the saints in saints being believers. Um, uh,

0:42:01.100 --> 0:42:04.009
<v S1>I don't know, the Bible doesn't say you won't be

0:42:04.010 --> 0:42:07.569
<v S1>able to talk to the Lord about it, but I

0:42:07.570 --> 0:42:10.890
<v S1>think the really important person is the person. You've been

0:42:10.890 --> 0:42:14.410
<v S1>praying in his name all throughout this time. He will

0:42:14.410 --> 0:42:18.930
<v S1>continue that there's only one mediator between God and humanity,

0:42:18.930 --> 0:42:23.930
<v S1>and that is the Messiah, Jesus. So first Timothy two

0:42:23.969 --> 0:42:26.490
<v S1>five should be a comfort, whether you can pray or not,

0:42:26.530 --> 0:42:31.690
<v S1>I don't know. I know you can't watch on a

0:42:31.690 --> 0:42:38.170
<v S1>lot of people think, oh, we're we're somehow granted omniscience.

0:42:38.170 --> 0:42:40.650
<v S1>So we know what's going on on earth while we're

0:42:40.650 --> 0:42:44.330
<v S1>in heaven. I don't believe that's true when it says

0:42:44.730 --> 0:42:47.969
<v S1>in Romans, in Hebrews 12 that we have so great

0:42:48.010 --> 0:42:51.569
<v S1>a cloud of witnesses. It's only referring to those in

0:42:51.610 --> 0:42:56.810
<v S1>first Corinthians, in in Hebrews 11, where they exercise faith,

0:42:56.810 --> 0:43:00.490
<v S1>all these Old Testament people and people in the Intertestamental period,

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:04.640
<v S1>They live by faith. And then Paul's whoever wrote Hebrews says,

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:09.760
<v S1>since we have so great a cloud of testifiers, people

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:12.680
<v S1>who testify to the value of faith, it's talking about

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:16.000
<v S1>the people in Hebrews 11. It's not talking about people

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<v S1>in heaven watching us, but rather the people who are

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<v S1>mentioned in Hebrews 11. They testify to the faithfulness of God,

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<v S1>the value of faith themselves. And so I don't think

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<v S1>we become omniscient. We won't be watching our our loved

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<v S1>ones on earth. Uh, but God does. He knows. And

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<v S1>the Lord Jesus is the mediator who will bring those

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<v S1>prayers continually to the father. Okay.

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<v S11>Okay. Thanks so much. God bless you.

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<v S1>And by the way, I don't know that you can't

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<v S1>pray when you're with the Lord. Uh, maybe you can. Uh,

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<v S1>I don't there's nothing in Scripture that says yes or no. Okay.

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<v S10>Right, right. Thanks so much. God bless.

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<v S1>Sure. Okay. Bye bye. Uh, we're going to speak next with, uh,

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<v S1>Dave in Chicago listening on WNBA. Welcome to Open Line, Dave.

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<v S1>How can I help you?

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<v S12>Thank you. My question is about John 2023. It appears

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<v S12>Jesus is giving the disciples authority to forgive sins. It

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<v S12>just seems rather odd to me. I thought only he

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<v S12>could forgive sins.

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<v S1>Uh, I think it's really not talking about them. By

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<v S1>the way, I can forgive sins if you sinned against me, Dave,

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<v S1>or I sin against you. We can forgive each other,

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<v S1>can we not?

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<v S12>Uh. That's true. Maybe I misunderstood the verse.

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<v S1>No, no, no, you didn't. But, I mean, don't take away, uh,

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<v S1>the expectation that we're supposed to forgive, uh, you know,

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<v S1>but in verse 23, what it's saying, receive the Holy Spirit.

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<v S1>It says in verse 22, that's a temporary infilling to

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<v S1>get them from, uh, the resurrection here all the way

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<v S1>to to Pentecost. And then it says, if you forgive

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<v S1>the sins of any, they are forgiven them. If you

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<v S1>retain the sins of any, they are retained. That actually

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<v S1>has to do with the proclamation of the apostles. The

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<v S1>apostles are going to say. Uh, clearly an example would

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<v S1>be Paul. Believe on the Lord Jesus and your sins

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<v S1>will be forgiven. Right. Acts 16. Uh, that's what it's saying,

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<v S1>is if I'm giving you the authority to proclaim forgiveness.

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<v S1>And if someone says to you, but I believe in Jesus,

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<v S1>you can say your sins are forgiven. If someone says,

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<v S1>I refuse to believe in Jesus, you can say your

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<v S1>sins are not forgiven. That's what it's saying. It's giving

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<v S1>them the authority to proclaim, uh, the forgiveness of sins

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<v S1>of people based on whether or not they believe in

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<v S1>Jesus or not. I think this is crucial. In John 824,

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<v S1>the Lord Jesus says, unless you believe that I am he?

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<v S1>Literally I am. You're still in your sins. We must believe.

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<v S1>We must proclaim that truth. But what good news we

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<v S1>can proclaim? Your sins are forgiven because you've trusted in Jesus.

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<v S1>I think that's what it's talking about there in John. Okay, Dave.

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<v S12>Thank you.

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<v S1>Yeah. Hey, thanks for listening, everyone. I can't believe the

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<v S1>program is over for this week. We'll see you next week.

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