WEBVTT - Seeing Purpose in Your Problems and Pain, Part 5

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<v S1>I'm sending it. I want you to see it the

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<v S1>way I see it. Because I'm shaping you to make

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<v S1>you into something that you currently are not right now. Why?

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<v S1>Because I can't give you what I want to give

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<v S1>you the way you are right now.

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<v S2>Welcome to Treasure Truth with pastor and author James Ford Jr.

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<v S2>Senior pastor of the Christ Bible Church in Chicago. I'm

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<v S2>Steve Hillard. Glad you're with us today. As we continue

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<v S2>our look at James chapter one and a message called

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<v S2>Seeing Purpose in Your Problems and Pain. You know, this

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<v S2>idea of God using the painful situations in our lives

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<v S2>to get us ready for something else was something that

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<v S2>I kind of struggled to understand at a certain time

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<v S2>in my life. And then I heard a pastor at

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<v S2>one time say, hey, if you're a parent, you might

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<v S2>want to look at it this way is your kid

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<v S2>when they're little, ready for everything you want to give them.

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<v S2>And the answer is obviously no. I mean, you can't

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<v S2>toss your keys to a four year old. You're just

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<v S2>asking for major trouble if you do something like that.

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<v S2>They go through a process of growing, of maturing. Comprehension

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<v S2>gets more. They begin to take on more responsibility. If

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<v S2>all goes well, and then eventually you're able to give

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<v S2>them what you truly want to give them long to

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<v S2>give them. But you couldn't in their immaturity. And you know,

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<v S2>the same holds true for God and for us. There

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<v S2>may be things that God wants to give us, but

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<v S2>he's like, I need you to mature a little bit first.

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<v S2>And so I'm going to walk with you through this

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<v S2>difficult season so that I can give you what I

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<v S2>want to give you. Well, that's what we're looking at

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<v S2>in today's broadcast. So if you can join us in

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<v S2>James chapter one, here's Pastor Ford.

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<v S1>You know, I'm going to tell you about a small

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<v S1>time preacher who's struggling with a small church in Dallas, Texas.

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<v S1>Tony Evans, let me tell you what he said. He

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<v S1>said when he was in seminary, Arie, uh, what he

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<v S1>had to do was, uh, work and go to school.

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<v S1>And so he got a job at Trailways. And when

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<v S1>he went there, there were about 4 or 5 other

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<v S1>guys that worked on the evening shift. He had to

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<v S1>work evening because he went to school in the daytime.

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<v S1>He said that when he went in, they informed him, look,

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<v S1>this is how we roll, uh, on this night shift. Uh,

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<v S1>you could be late. Somebody will punch you in on time.

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<v S1>You can leave early. We'll punch you out. Uh, everybody

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<v S1>doesn't work all night. A couple of us will work, uh,

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<v S1>for a couple of hours. And while the others sleep.

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<v S1>And then, uh, they wake up, and then we go

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<v S1>sleep and, you know, and that's the way we roll

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<v S1>around here. So we want you to know, uh, that's

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<v S1>what you gotta do. And so he began to to

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<v S1>ponder and say, okay, now I want to be accepted

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<v S1>by these guys, and I want to be socially alienated

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<v S1>and ostracized. Uh, but I got to honor God. And so,

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<v S1>you know what, God? I know it's going to cost me,

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<v S1>but I'm going to honor you. Okay? And so what's

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<v S1>his motivation? Honor. God. So guess what happened? They did

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<v S1>ostracize him. He said that whenever it was time to

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<v S1>unload and and load some of his buses, uh, nobody

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<v S1>was around. They had to go to the bathroom, they

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<v S1>had to do something, and they kept doing what they

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<v S1>were doing. And he never participated in it. He said,

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<v S1>three months later, uh, the boss came to him and said,

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<v S1>come to the office. And he's thinking to himself, why

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<v S1>are you bringing me to the office? I'm the only

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<v S1>one around here that work. I ain't done nothing wrong.

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<v S1>He called him in the office and said, for the

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<v S1>last month, we've had one of our management team scoping

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<v S1>out the evening shift. And we know that there's punching

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<v S1>in and out of people who aren't even here, that

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<v S1>half will sleep while half work. And, uh, you did

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<v S1>not participate. We fired them. We're bringing on a whole

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<v S1>new staff. We want to make you the manager of

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<v S1>the night shift. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it's like

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<v S1>when you look at it, the problem was the platform

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<v S1>for his promotion to his new position and his higher pay. Amen.

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<v S1>See the problem is with your perspective. Is your theology

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<v S1>greater than your theology? Say, what do you mean by that?

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<v S1>You know exactly what I mean. Are you more concerned

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<v S1>about your pain than God's purpose? Because if you are you,

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<v S1>you will not see. See, here's what you need. You

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<v S1>need a new perspective. Little boy was wanting to see

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<v S1>the Bud Billiken Parade, so he was standing on the

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<v S1>street and he was looking and it would look nice

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<v S1>and everything. But all he could see was in front

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<v S1>of me. He's short and all these people couldn't see anything,

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<v S1>couldn't see good. And he said, parades. I don't like parades.

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<v S1>And an old man was standing next to him who

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<v S1>lived in the apartment behind him in the penthouse floor.

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<v S1>And so the old man said to the little boy,

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<v S1>come on, little boy. Now wait a minute. All you

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<v S1>social workers, all you children, workers. Uh, listen, don't.

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<v S3>No, no, boy, don't go with a stranger. Oh, no.

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<v S3>Stranger danger.

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<v S1>This is just an illustration, okay? That's that's all it is. Okay.

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<v S1>So don't get excited. You know, don't call DCFS. Alright. So,

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<v S1>so so he says, come on up. So he goes

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<v S1>up to this man's penthouse. He looks down. He sees

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<v S1>the beginning of the parade. He sees the ending of

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<v S1>the parade. He sees everything in between. And that's what

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<v S1>God told me to come tell you today that you're

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<v S1>down from the ground looking at it, and it looks

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<v S1>bleak and it looks bad, and it looks like ain't

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<v S1>nothing ever going to come of this, but you just

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<v S1>seeing a little part of it. You're being obscured by

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<v S1>all the things that are around you. But you got

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<v S1>an ancient of days who say, come up to heaven

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<v S1>and look down on it rather than looking at it.

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<v S1>And when you look down on it, you see it

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<v S1>from a different light. You see the beginning of it

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<v S1>and you see it ends, and you see the process

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<v S1>that takes place in the middle that God is letting

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<v S1>you know. I got this. When you look from the

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<v S1>divine perspective, you know there's a beginning. You know there's

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<v S1>an end. You know that I'm working and it looks

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<v S1>beautiful when you see the whole thing from my perspective.

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<v S1>My wife will tell you I'm like everybody else. I'll complain,

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<v S1>and then I'll put a caveat and I'll say, ooh, girl,

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<v S1>you know what? What? I'm excited. Why are you excited?

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<v S1>Because I'm under great persecution. Why are you excited about that?

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<v S1>Because there's got to be great provision. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v S1>There has to be. Yeah. And so when we look

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<v S1>at this, he's saying. View your trials from God's perspective. Man,

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<v S1>I tell you what it's like. It's like I'm a

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<v S1>teacher and I know it. I'm looking at this thing

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<v S1>this morning. I said, I see another outline for the

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<v S1>book of James. I've got, I bet, you know, less

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<v S1>than 25 outlines. Here's the outline I saw. Uh, Elder Strider.

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<v S1>I was looking at it again. I said, wow, looking

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<v S1>at it from God's perspective, here's what I saw. Verse

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<v S1>one is God sent. Verse two Is God seen? In

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<v S1>verse three Is God shaping? Verse four, It's God supplying.

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<v S1>In other words, look at how you get this thing

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<v S1>set up, he says. Verse one I sent it. Uh.

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<v S1>Verse two. You gotta see it from my perspective, because

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<v S1>if you don't see it the way I see it,

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<v S1>then you won't respond to it the way I want

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<v S1>you to respond to it. Then I can't shape you

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<v S1>the way I want to shape you. And I can't

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<v S1>supply for you what I want to supply for you.

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<v S1>Because your shape determines your supply and your seeing determines

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<v S1>if you know it was sent. And so they all

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<v S1>fall in line together. I'm sending it. I want you

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<v S1>to see it the way I see it, because I'm

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<v S1>shaping you to make you into something that you currently

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<v S1>are not right now. Why? Because I can't give you

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<v S1>what I want to give you the way you are

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<v S1>right now. Yeah. Some of you ladies ain't going to

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<v S1>never get a husband because you won't get a divorce.

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<v S1>Who got quiet? It's like you, you you blessing us,

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<v S1>then you just stole our blessing. Yeah. You're not going

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<v S1>to get a husband. You can't live with yourself. How

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<v S1>are you going to live with somebody else? Brother, he

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<v S1>ain't going to send you that fine woman you waiting on.

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<v S1>He said get a job. Yeah. And so here, as

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<v S1>you begin to look at this thing, man, it is

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<v S1>it is noticed, uh, there's a A and a B

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<v S1>under here. Notice the attitude that demonstrates the right perspective.

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<v S1>He says count it all joy. What does that mean?

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<v S1>What does that mean? Count it all joy. Well, you know,

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<v S1>when we talked about this plenty of times, uh, that

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<v S1>whenever you look at, uh, the baptizing work of the

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<v S1>Holy Spirit, I belong to Christ's body. But the filling

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<v S1>of the spirit where joy is produced, my body belongs

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<v S1>to him. So I belong to Christ's body. First John

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<v S1>13 for by one spirit are we all baptized into

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<v S1>one body, having all been made to drink of one spirit.

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<v S1>But then once I get filled with the spirit. Galatians

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<v S1>522 and 23. The fruit of the spirit is love, joy.

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<v S1>So joy is independent of circumstances. It is not based

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<v S1>on what happens. And so David said, the joy of

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<v S1>the Lord is my strength. But wait a minute. He

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<v S1>was running for his life. But he said, the joy

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<v S1>of the Lord is my strength, because if my joy

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<v S1>doesn't come from the circumstances, it comes from the Savior.

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<v S1>And so, uh, your sons turn against you. Yeah, but

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<v S1>the joy of the Lord is my strength. Yeah, but

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<v S1>your people turn to you. The joy of the Lord

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<v S1>is my strength. Uh, but they want to kill you.

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<v S1>Joy of the Lord is my strength. You're in the wilderness.

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<v S1>Don't have food. The joy of the Lord is my strength.

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<v S1>But how are you going to eat joy? The Lord

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<v S1>is my strength. Well, what's going to happen? And when

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<v S1>are you going to go back? I don't know, but

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<v S1>the joy of the Lord is my strength. I don't

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<v S1>know anything, but the joy of the Lord is my strength.

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<v S1>I trust him so he says, count it all joy.

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<v S1>That's a mathematical term. Notice first of all, it's a command.

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<v S1>It's imperative. It's not dusty or old country buffet. He says.

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<v S1>You better rejoice when you get into diverse temptation. And

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<v S1>here's how he softens it up. Because notice he started

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<v S1>with compassion. That is, my brethren, 15 times in James,

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<v S1>my brother and my brethren. What's he trying to do?

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<v S1>It's a hard situation, so I'm going to soften it

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<v S1>up a little bit, but I'm still letting you know

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<v S1>that even though I'm going to calm down the situation

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<v S1>and let you know, hey, I'm being compassionate, you need

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<v S1>to know it's still a command and I like how

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<v S1>he does it. More of us need to learn that

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<v S1>he's sensitive to their feelings, but he is astute in

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<v S1>the scriptures. So what he does is he speaks the

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<v S1>truth in love. He focused on the product, not on

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<v S1>the pain.

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<v S2>You're listening to Treasure Truth with Pastor Ford. A message

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<v S1>And so that's what Paul did, didn't he? They said, Paul,

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<v S1>we'll kill you. He said, that's okay. Uh, if you

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<v S1>kill me, I'll be with Christ, because the die is gain.

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<v S1>They said, well, we'll let you live. Well, that's cool too,

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<v S1>because the live is Christ. Well, we'll make you suffer.

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<v S1>He says, well, okay, let's bring it on. Because, uh,

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<v S1>I know that this, uh, present suffering is nothing in

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<v S1>comparison to the glory that's going to be revealed in us.

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<v S1>So here's what he was saying. He's saying, look, if

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<v S1>you kill me, I'm going to be with Christ. Yeah.

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<v S1>And if you let me live, I'm going to live

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<v S1>for Christ. And if you make me suffer, I'm going

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<v S1>to get a reward for Christ. So bring it on.

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<v S1>It's all about Christ. I'm going to be like Christ.

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<v S1>I'm going to look like Christ. I'm going to be

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<v S1>with Christ. And so over and over again he tells us,

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<v S1>now notice something because he says something about these things.

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<v S1>He says, first of all, he says, uh, this aspects

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<v S1>of suffering, uh, that show we have the right perspective.

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<v S1>He says they are certain. Notice, he says, when you

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<v S1>fall into divers temptation. Not if I don't need to

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<v S1>say anymore. John 1633 in the world you shall have tribulation.

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<v S1>Be of good cheer. I have overcome the world. He said,

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<v S1>you're going to you're going to be hated on. You're

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<v S1>going to be despised and rejected. You're going to be

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<v S1>kicked to the curb. You ought to just you. You

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<v S1>better be scared when. When there's nobody hating on you.

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<v S1>That generally mean you ain't doing nothing for Christ. Mhm. Yeah.

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<v S1>And so first Corinthians chapter ten, verse 13, there's no

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<v S1>temptation taken you but that which is common to man.

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<v S1>But God is faithful who will not allow you to

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<v S1>be tempted. Notice secondly, not just are they certain but

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<v S1>they're sudden. He says, when you fall and have you

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<v S1>ever noticed that your trials, your tests, your temptations don't

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<v S1>consult your daytimer? They don't ask to be put on

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<v S1>your schedule. It just comes up and it just overwhelm you.

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<v S1>And so he says you have no control over your pain.

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<v S1>You just have control in your pain. Now, let me

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<v S1>ask you a question. Say ask it. Why is it

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<v S1>so important to have the right perspective about our problems

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<v S1>in pain, so that we see it from God's perspective?

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<v S1>And once we do, what will happen? I'll tell you

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<v S1>what will happen. And Scripture affirms it. What happened? Pastor,

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<v S1>for glad you asked. You ask intelligent questions because it'll

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<v S1>turn my fear into faith. It'll turn my sighing into singing.

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<v S1>It'll turn my pouting into praising. It'll turn my doubting

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<v S1>into dancing. It will turn my worrying into worship. It

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<v S1>will turn my trying into trusting, uh, the you know

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<v S1>what they meant for evil. God said. I mean it

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<v S1>for good. Uh, he'll say when I pass through the waters.

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<v S1>I will not fear because you're with me. In other words,

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<v S1>he said, you're going to get in some water and

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<v S1>you're going to get wet. But don't worry, the only

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<v S1>thing you need to worry about is this I ain't

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<v S1>going to let you drown. So you may go down once.

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<v S1>You may go down twice, but you ain't going down

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<v S1>three times. Because I will be with you. And so

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<v S1>and so. I'll never forget when we're in another church.

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<v S1>We had just got a new carpet. Green carpet. And

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<v S1>you know, and I don't know why we got green,

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<v S1>I don't know. Uh, somebody said money. No, we didn't

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<v S1>have none over there. No, we ain't got much over here.

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<v S1>That's why it's red. Uh, but anyway. So, so so, uh,

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<v S1>they had a wedding, and I told them. Don't put

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<v S1>anything on our carpet. They put candles down the aisle

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<v S1>and let the candles burn, and it seeped into the carpet.

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<v S1>And Dennis Sanders, who was our, uh, custodian at the time,

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<v S1>I said, man, I'm upset. I'm calling them people. Hey,

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<v S1>they going to pay for this? If we got to

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<v S1>get a new carpet, they're going to pay because I

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<v S1>told them, don't be. And he said, don't worry about it, pastor.

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<v S1>I said, what do you mean, don't worry about it?

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<v S1>He said, I got this. Don't worry. He said it

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<v S1>won't have any damage. I said, come on, man, look

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<v S1>how deep that's in the carpet. You start scraping it,

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<v S1>you're going to scrape the piling. It's going to it's

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<v S1>going to look bad. He said, pastor, I got this.

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<v S1>I said, okay, I want to see how you going

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<v S1>to do this? He went and came back. I said,

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<v S1>what's that? He said, it's a heat gun. And then

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<v S1>he had this piece of paper with him or a

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<v S1>cloth or whatever it was. And so he put the

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<v S1>heat to it. And then he said, Now I'm going

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<v S1>to blot it. And he put the whatever it was

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<v S1>down there. And the wax soaked up in the blotter

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<v S1>paper or cloth, whatever it was. And you couldn't tell.

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<v S1>I said, wow, I gotta write that down. He said,

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<v S1>I knew you was going to use it as a

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<v S1>sermon illustration. Yes, I am, because that's what God wants

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<v S1>to do with us. Uh, that there's something in my

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<v S1>character that just ain't right. And God says, oh, man,

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<v S1>he's stubborn and hard. It's in the warp and the

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<v S1>fiber of his soul. And so I need some heat.

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<v S1>And he puts the heat of the conviction of the

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<v S1>Holy Ghost on me. And then he blots it out

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<v S1>with the Scripture, because I'm clean through the word that

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<v S1>he's spoken unto me, and it blots out. And I

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<v S1>look and I say, wow, I'm new in that area too.

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<v S1>And so what you need to be crying out. Say,

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<v S1>what do we need to be crying out for? Boom

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<v S1>boom boom. Mhm mhm mhm. Five.

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<v S4>I yell.

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<v S1>Boom.

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<v S4>Boom boom!

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<v S1>Oh, when it's hot. And God makes it hot. Because

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<v S1>we've got a toxic personality. Give me some heat. We've

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<v S1>got a fornication. Adultery. Give me some heat. Gossiping. Backbiting. Jealousy. Lying.

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<v S1>Give me some heat. Turn up the heat. Give me some.

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<v S4>Fire.

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<v S1>In other words, it's Romans 828. All. All things work

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<v S1>together for good to those who love the Lord. And

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<v S1>so we have to have a right perspective. Regal prerogative.

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<v S1>Let me finish this real quick. We have to. The

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<v S1>third way. A mature believer sees purpose in their problem plan. Is,

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<v S1>are y'all tired of the word? Okay, okay. Can I

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<v S1>can I do one more? Thank you very much. Amen. Amen.

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<v S1>You have to understand the refining process that takes place.

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<v S1>He says in verse three, listen to this. Knowing this,

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<v S1>that the trying of your faith works. Patience. Wow. That's powerful.

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<v S1>Let's let's now look, some of you won't come to

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<v S1>Bible study, so I gotta bring Bible study to you. Okay.

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<v S1>There are five kinds of suffering in the Bible that

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<v S1>I find. Let me. Let me give you the five.

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<v S1>If you take notes, you may want these first kind

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<v S1>of suffering is religious suffering. It's religious suffering. You say what?

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<v S1>What what is that? It's. It's when you suffer because

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<v S1>your religion puts a stipulation on you that God does not.

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<v S1>So every religion is false. Yeah. And and here's what

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<v S1>first Corinthians 1022 says. They are not worshiping God. They

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<v S1>are worshiping demons. Did you hear what I said? They're

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<v S1>worshiping demons. I didn't say that. Don't shoot the mailman.

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<v S1>It says it in first Corinthians 1022 that all religion

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<v S1>other than Christianity is the worship of demons. They think

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<v S1>they're worshiping God, but they're. Okay, let me give you

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<v S1>an example. In India, people are starving, but it's not

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<v S1>caused by a food shortage or by overpopulation. It's the

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<v S1>result of religious belief. Because they are Hindus and Buddhists

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<v S1>and they believe that that roach that you killed this

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<v S1>morning was probably your Uncle Willie, who died ten years

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<v S1>ago and came back as a roach. And so you're

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<v S1>not allowed to kill rats, mice and cows. And so

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<v S1>get this now. Why is there a hunger problem? Because

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<v S1>of its religious suffering. Because you can't kill a cow.

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<v S1>Every cow is sacred. So then one cow could feed

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<v S1>seven people. Which means then, since they have 200 million

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<v S1>sacred cows, they could feed. If they just chopped them

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<v S1>boys up into Big Macs and Whoppers, they'd be able

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<v S1>to feed 1,400,000,000 people. But their religion prohibits it. And

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<v S1>the mice and the rats consume 50% of the stored

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<v S1>grain in India. See? Religious suffering. Then secondly, and I

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<v S1>gotta hasten on, there's rapacious suffering. Say rapacious. What is rapacious?

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<v S1>Rapacious is demonic suffering. Like the man in Mark five. Uh,

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<v S1>he was touched not by an angel, but touched by

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<v S1>a demon. And there were how many demons in him?

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<v S1>How many thousand? 6000 demons. Now, that shouldn't surprise you,

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<v S1>because some of y'all got more than that. I done

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<v S1>dealt with some of y'all. And here's what I love

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<v S1>about it I have to I have to make this

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<v S1>comment because it says. And they said, Jesus said, what

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<v S1>is your name? And they said, now get this, they

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<v S1>is plural because there's 6000 said is singular because only

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<v S1>one spoke for all. Alright. Well I said the church

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<v S1>had that kind of unity. What is your name? Everybody

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<v S1>would be saying her name. My name, my name, my name,

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<v S1>my God. No, we're Christ's Bible church. Anyway. And so, uh,

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<v S1>there's rapacious suffering. Then thirdly, there's Is retributive suffering. You say,

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<v S1>what is that? That suffering for our sin? John 514.

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<v S1>Uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh John 513

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<v S1>through 17 that is some some of us are suffering

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<v S1>on our own. It's kind of like I tell you

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<v S1>all the time, you say, God, why am I in

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<v S1>this financial trouble? Why you let this happen? And God says,

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<v S1>my name ain't on. None of them slips on any

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<v S1>of them credit cards. Yeah. Amen. Then there's redemptive suffering.

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<v S1>What's redemptive suffering? Write down second Corinthians one three through

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<v S1>11 if you're doing that, uh, because redemptive suffering is

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<v S1>when you don't suffer for yourself, that your suffering is

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<v S1>so God can connect to somebody else. There was one

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<v S1>year my wife was in the hospital five times for

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<v S1>two weeks at a time. Three of those two sets

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<v S1>of weeks, she led a nurse to Christ. So three

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<v S1>people came to Christ while she was in the hospital.

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<v S1>And we rejoiced because we said that suffering wasn't for you,

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<v S1>that suffering. So you can go in there and witness.

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<v S1>When Pastor Betts was in the hospital. He led people

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<v S1>to Christ. And so here God allows us sometimes to

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<v S1>suffer so that other people can be blessed. But here

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<v S1>it is in this text. Uh, it's called remedial suffering.

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<v S1>Let me give you the definition of a very handsome

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<v S1>preacher on the south side of Chicago. Uh, Pastor James

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<v S1>Ford junior. Here's what he said. And I quote. Remedial

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<v S1>suffering is a special course of study for helping students

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<v S1>in the University of the Holy Spirit to overcome deficiencies

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<v S1>in specific character, skills, ability, knowledge, or wisdom.

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<v S2>ministry of Moody Bible Institute.