WEBVTT - Hour 1: Bible Study and Coffee 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:12.200 When we read our Bibles, can we be sure that 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:16.560 we're really actually reading the truth? Stay with me. We'll 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:20.880 talk about that in just a moment. Hello, friends. Welcome 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.600 to Open Line, Moody Radio's Bible study across America. My 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.280 name is Michael Radonich. I'm the academic dean and a 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:30.960 professor of Jewish studies and Bible at Moody Bible Institute. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.720 I'm so grateful that you're joining me around the radio 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:38.120 kitchen table this morning. We're talking about your questions about 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.879 the Bible, God and the spiritual life. If you have 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.200 a question and you'd like to call, the phone number 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:51.800 here is (877) 548-3675. Let me give that to you again. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:01:00.540 It's (877) 548-3675. Tricia McMillan is in the producer's chair. Omar 0:01:00.540 --> 0:01:05.740 Mendoza is our tech guy. Lisa jumped is here helping 0:01:05.780 --> 0:01:14.179 as well? Uh, again, the phone number (877) 548-3675. Go get 0:01:14.180 --> 0:01:16.459 yourself a cup of coffee. I've got mine right here. 0:01:16.940 --> 0:01:20.420 And open your Bible. We're going to study the scriptures together. 0:01:23.700 --> 0:01:30.940 Since the whole Bible is inspired, it's completely true or inerrant. 0:01:31.300 --> 0:01:34.460 And when I was with you last week, I discussed 0:01:34.459 --> 0:01:39.380 the inspiration of Scripture that God's Word is God breathed. 0:01:40.380 --> 0:01:45.140 An implication of that is a teaching called inerrancy, or 0:01:45.180 --> 0:01:49.860 that the Bible is without any error. This idea is 0:01:49.860 --> 0:01:53.540 understood from the scriptures themselves in the in the Torah, 0:01:53.660 --> 0:01:56.340 also known as the Pentateuch or the Five Books of Moses. 0:01:56.500 --> 0:01:59.640 Moses wrote, God is not a man who lies or 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.240 a son of man who changes his mind. Does he 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:06.120 speak and not act or promise and not fulfill? That's 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:11.200 in numbers 2319. That's why the psalmist declared, the sum 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:16.560 of your word is truth. Psalm 119 160. In the 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:20.680 New Testament, the Lord Jesus, God incarnate, said of himself, 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:23.960 I am the way, the truth, and the life. John 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:29.840 14 six. The the high priestly prayer that the Lord 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.720 Jesus said, he calls himself the truth. He's the divine 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:38.800 author of Scripture. And then he offers this high priestly prayer. Uh, 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.480 since God is true and he breathed out the scriptures, 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:46.960 he said in John 1717, Your Word is truth. Furthermore, 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:52.200 the apostle Paul also affirmed God's truthfulness in Romans three four. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.799 He said, God must be true even if everyone is 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:58.990 a liar. And in Titus one two he reiterated that 0:02:58.990 --> 0:03:02.270 God cannot lie. When you take all these verses together, 0:03:02.270 --> 0:03:06.550 these statements from Scripture leads us to the teaching that 0:03:06.550 --> 0:03:10.790 the Bible is without error, that it is inerrant. The 0:03:10.790 --> 0:03:15.990 point is that the Bible is as true as God Himself, 0:03:15.990 --> 0:03:22.270 and it's completely trustworthy. Now, to help us better understand 0:03:22.270 --> 0:03:27.150 the concept of inerrancy, here are some specific points to remember. First, 0:03:27.750 --> 0:03:32.070 the inerrancy of Scripture is limited to the original autographs. 0:03:32.830 --> 0:03:37.750 This means that the original scroll that Isaiah wrote, or 0:03:37.750 --> 0:03:41.550 the actual letter Paul wrote to the Romans, these are 0:03:41.550 --> 0:03:45.430 the documents that are inherent. It doesn't mean that every 0:03:45.430 --> 0:03:49.070 copy we have today will be a perfect replica of 0:03:49.110 --> 0:03:53.870 that original. The good news is that textual criticism, the 0:03:53.870 --> 0:03:57.730 study of comparing the surviving ancient manuscripts with one another 0:03:57.730 --> 0:04:01.450 is highly accurate. That's why we we can be confident 0:04:01.730 --> 0:04:04.730 that what we have today reflects more than 99% of 0:04:04.730 --> 0:04:09.490 the original documents. And for those parts that remain in question, 0:04:09.930 --> 0:04:14.010 none of them affect biblical doctrine or prescribed behavior. And 0:04:14.010 --> 0:04:17.690 that's why I can hold my Bible with unwavering certainty 0:04:18.130 --> 0:04:22.609 and say that it is inerrant. I know it's based 0:04:22.610 --> 0:04:26.130 on texts copied years after the original manuscripts, and then 0:04:26.130 --> 0:04:30.090 they were translated into English. But I can still affirm, 0:04:30.089 --> 0:04:38.169 I can still claim it's completely true. Secondly, inerrancy only 0:04:38.170 --> 0:04:42.410 refers to what the Bible affirms. Some statements in the 0:04:42.410 --> 0:04:46.690 scriptures are accurately recorded, but they are not actually what 0:04:46.690 --> 0:04:48.850 the Bible teaches. You say, what do you mean? Well, 0:04:48.850 --> 0:04:54.049 for example, when the serpent tempted Eve, he misquoted God. 0:04:55.270 --> 0:04:58.549 And he claimed that God prohibited Adam and Eve from 0:04:58.550 --> 0:05:01.830 eating from any tree. Genesis three one. Well, we know 0:05:01.830 --> 0:05:05.270 that's not true. The Bible records what the pie, what 0:05:05.270 --> 0:05:09.950 the serpent truly said. But the serpent's words remain untrue. 0:05:09.990 --> 0:05:15.750 Only what the Bible affirms is what we say is 0:05:15.750 --> 0:05:22.150 without error. Here's the third principle to remember. Inerrancy assumes 0:05:22.150 --> 0:05:28.870 that the Bible uses ordinary, normal language. Here's what I mean. 0:05:28.870 --> 0:05:31.190 The Bible mentions that there are four corners of the 0:05:31.190 --> 0:05:36.110 earth in Isaiah 1112, or it talks about the sunrise 0:05:36.110 --> 0:05:40.469 in Psalm 113 three. That doesn't mean that the Bible 0:05:40.470 --> 0:05:44.470 teaches the earth is a square or flat, or that 0:05:44.470 --> 0:05:48.630 God's Word denies a heliocentric view of the universe. The 0:05:48.630 --> 0:05:53.409 scriptures aren't using scientific precision. They're just talking the way 0:05:53.410 --> 0:05:56.610 people talk. Any more than a meteorologist on local news 0:05:57.050 --> 0:06:02.250 is talking with scientific precision. He doesn't do that when 0:06:02.250 --> 0:06:06.210 he tells us what the times are for sunrise and sundown. 0:06:06.610 --> 0:06:11.690 They're just talking like normal people, just like the Bible does. Well, 0:06:11.890 --> 0:06:15.090 when my kids were little, we loved playing this game 0:06:15.089 --> 0:06:18.969 with them called Jenga. We'd build a tower, adding wood 0:06:19.010 --> 0:06:21.890 piece upon piece until it would fall down. The last 0:06:21.890 --> 0:06:24.690 piece would make it fall down. But my younger boy 0:06:25.050 --> 0:06:28.450 was a little mischievous, and sometimes he would deliberately pull 0:06:28.450 --> 0:06:30.690 out the bottom piece in order to make the whole 0:06:30.690 --> 0:06:35.130 tower collapse. This reminds me of the inspiration of Scripture. 0:06:35.690 --> 0:06:39.730 It's foundational to every other teaching of the Bible. If 0:06:39.730 --> 0:06:44.610 we pull one teaching out that one about inspiration, then 0:06:44.610 --> 0:06:49.050 all the others will fall apart. It's why our affirmation 0:06:49.050 --> 0:06:54.750 of the inspiration and inerrancy of Scripture, of God's Word 0:06:54.990 --> 0:06:59.510 is so vital. If we take it away, it puts 0:06:59.510 --> 0:07:11.870 our entire faith in jeopardy. Well, that is, I think, 0:07:11.910 --> 0:07:14.590 one of the most important teachings of the Bible that 0:07:14.590 --> 0:07:17.270 we must affirm the inspiration and inerrancy of the Bible. 0:07:17.270 --> 0:07:20.910 I hope that's something that you find helpful. And one 0:07:20.910 --> 0:07:25.590 of the questions that people have is, how do I 0:07:25.590 --> 0:07:28.430 know how I got the Bible all the way from 0:07:28.430 --> 0:07:36.470 divine inspiration to canonization to modern translations, all the copies, 0:07:36.470 --> 0:07:39.310 all that stuff. How did it come about? Well, if 0:07:39.350 --> 0:07:43.110 you've wondered about that, that's what our current resource is about. 0:07:43.430 --> 0:07:46.590 Doctor Carl Laney has written the book called The Story 0:07:46.590 --> 0:07:48.990 of the Bible, and it takes you on the journey 0:07:49.350 --> 0:07:54.580 through the scriptures development. From divine inspiration to transmission to 0:07:54.620 --> 0:08:00.620 modern translations, Doctor Laney reveals how God worked through human authors, scribes, 0:08:00.660 --> 0:08:04.580 translators to give us his written word. This book will 0:08:04.700 --> 0:08:08.059 deepen our confidence in the Bible's reliability. It will answer 0:08:08.060 --> 0:08:12.260 the questions you've always had about where our scriptures came from. 0:08:12.420 --> 0:08:15.260 And how do you get this? Well. We'd like to 0:08:15.260 --> 0:08:17.260 say thank you for a gift of any size. If 0:08:17.260 --> 0:08:19.900 you give a gift of any size, this is our 0:08:19.900 --> 0:08:22.900 current resource. We want to say thanks for giving and 0:08:22.900 --> 0:08:25.380 send you a copy of this. And, uh, it's the 0:08:25.380 --> 0:08:30.380 kind of gift that if you've never given to open line. 0:08:30.380 --> 0:08:33.020 I think if you've had any wonders about the Bible, 0:08:33.020 --> 0:08:34.540 I think this would be a great time to give 0:08:34.540 --> 0:08:37.100 a gift, because you're going to love this resource. Just 0:08:37.100 --> 0:08:47.300 go to our website. Or call (888) 644-7122. And uh, when 0:08:47.300 --> 0:08:50.160 you when you call and talk with them and give 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.600 your gift. Make sure to ask for a copy of 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.400 Carlini's The Story of the Bible. We're going to talk 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:00.959 to Lois now. Listening in Georgia. Hello, Lois. How can 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:07.480 I help you today? Is Lois with us? Oh, there 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:07.880 you are. 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:09.080 Lois. Yeah. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:10.920 Yeah. Hi, Lois. How can I help you? 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.040 I've got another question for you. 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:14.600 Okay. 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:20.600 Okay. In Proverbs, wisdom is always referred to in the 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:28.319 feminine pronoun. Except in chapter eight, starting at verse 12, 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.040 it reverts to first person pronoun. 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:33.480 Mhm. 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:44.480 In first Corinthians, uh, wisdom is equated with Jesus. Jesus 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:45.280 is wisdom. 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.380 Mhm. Okay. 0:09:49.460 --> 0:09:51.060 Okay. So you I. 0:09:51.100 --> 0:09:56.819 Think I understand what you're asking. Why is wisdom presented 0:09:56.820 --> 0:10:01.020 as female in the book of Proverbs in chapter eight? 0:10:01.260 --> 0:10:09.260 If Jesus is the, uh. Epitome, the incarnation of wisdom. 0:10:09.300 --> 0:10:11.780 Is that. Is that what you're asking? 0:10:11.820 --> 0:10:12.140 Yes. 0:10:12.179 --> 0:10:12.699 Yes. 0:10:12.900 --> 0:10:13.380 Yes. 0:10:13.580 --> 0:10:17.219 Okay. Well, first of all, there's some dispute as to 0:10:17.260 --> 0:10:22.180 whether wisdom is just being spoken of intrinsically as wisdom. Uh, 0:10:22.740 --> 0:10:25.980 which existed as long as God existed. Uh, I happen 0:10:25.980 --> 0:10:30.699 to believe that in Proverbs eight. This is a messianic passage. 0:10:30.700 --> 0:10:35.420 It's talking about wisdom. Uh, and and the Messiah embodies 0:10:35.700 --> 0:10:36.699 that wisdom. 0:10:37.500 --> 0:10:38.699 I agree with that. 0:10:38.740 --> 0:10:39.180 Yeah. 0:10:39.420 --> 0:10:43.740 And, uh, the second thing about this, I would say, 0:10:44.380 --> 0:10:48.679 is that Uh, wisdom is just being presented in a 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:55.480 figurative way, uh, and not necessarily a literal way. What 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:59.600 I mean by that is, in Genesis 49 and revelation five, 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.160 the Lord Jesus is presented as the lion of the 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:05.040 tribe of Judah. I don't think he's a lion. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:06.120 No. 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:12.800 Okay. Uh, and, uh, there are other places, uh, where 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.920 the Lord Jesus is described as the chief cornerstone. I 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:20.559 don't think he's made of stone. Uh, my my point 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.960 is that there are many figures I believe in Proverbs eight. 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:28.360 The figure here is that of Lady Wisdom embodied, which 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:33.920 who would ultimately be embodied by the Messiah. And it's 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:39.120 to contrast her with, uh, lady wisdom, with, uh, the 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:45.069 adulterous woman that's found in Proverbs seven. So, uh, Wisdom, 0:11:45.070 --> 0:11:49.550 which is God's wisdom. Uh, the embodiment of wisdom is 0:11:49.550 --> 0:11:52.550 the Messiah. But, uh, that's why it says a lot 0:11:52.590 --> 0:11:56.510 of versions say the Lord made me. Verse 22 about wisdom, 0:11:56.710 --> 0:12:01.550 but that that would be better, I think translated begot 0:12:01.550 --> 0:12:05.189 me or possessed me at the beginning of his creation. 0:12:05.510 --> 0:12:08.470 And so I think that would affirm that this is 0:12:08.470 --> 0:12:13.190 an eternal. If wisdom is eternal, then it must be deity. 0:12:13.590 --> 0:12:18.110 And because only deity is eternal, and therefore the Lord Jesus, 0:12:18.110 --> 0:12:21.910 I think, embodies it, just as Colossians tells us. But 0:12:22.510 --> 0:12:26.429 it's being he's being presented here as Lady Wisdom, uh, 0:12:26.429 --> 0:12:29.589 not because of any kind of expectation that he would 0:12:29.590 --> 0:12:32.429 be female, but rather just like he's not expected to 0:12:32.429 --> 0:12:35.950 be a lion. These are figures of speech. Uh, and 0:12:35.950 --> 0:12:40.190 just as he's not expected to be a cornerstone, uh, 0:12:40.470 --> 0:12:43.429 those are figures that teach us things. So that's what 0:12:43.429 --> 0:12:47.569 I would say about that. Uh, and, uh, I hope 0:12:47.570 --> 0:12:52.090 that helps, Lois. Uh, that's, uh, that's the best I 0:12:52.090 --> 0:12:54.130 can help you with. There's a really good article, by 0:12:54.130 --> 0:12:57.530 the way, about Proverbs eight in the Moody Handbook of 0:12:57.530 --> 0:13:00.530 Messianic Prophecy, a book I had the privilege of editing. 0:13:00.530 --> 0:13:03.410 It was written by Seth Postel. A really great article 0:13:03.410 --> 0:13:05.730 about that. Uh, we're going to come right back with 0:13:05.730 --> 0:13:08.530 more of your questions in just a moment. You're listening 0:13:08.570 --> 0:13:11.250 to Open Line with Michael Zelnick. We'll be right back. 0:13:25.970 --> 0:13:28.530 Welcome back to Open Line. 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How can I 0:16:00.550 --> 0:16:01.630 help you today, Carol? 0:16:02.950 --> 0:16:03.790 Um, yes. 0:16:03.790 --> 0:16:07.670 Thank you, doctor, for taking my call. I am a 0:16:07.670 --> 0:16:11.710 church secretary, and I had someone text into the church 0:16:12.070 --> 0:16:17.110 with a list of Bible verses that are potentially contradictory. 0:16:17.350 --> 0:16:20.870 And so I have one specifically that I wanted to 0:16:20.870 --> 0:16:23.390 ask you about. And I was wondering also if you 0:16:23.390 --> 0:16:28.190 could recommend a good resource resource for researching passages that 0:16:28.190 --> 0:16:36.070 sound contradictory? Um, so the verses are Exodus 3311 and 0:16:36.070 --> 0:16:37.870 John 118. 0:16:37.870 --> 0:16:38.740 Team. Mhm. 0:16:40.220 --> 0:16:45.020 Okay. Uh, Exodus 3311 says the Lord spoke with Moses. 0:16:45.020 --> 0:16:49.260 It says face to face, literally. It actually says mouth 0:16:49.260 --> 0:16:54.260 to mouth. That's that's what I'm going to pull up the, 0:16:54.500 --> 0:16:58.020 the Hebrew right now just to confirm that my memory 0:16:58.020 --> 0:17:01.820 is correct. But, uh, I think it's mouth to mouth 0:17:01.820 --> 0:17:05.540 is what it says. And, uh. 0:17:05.540 --> 0:17:06.100 Okay. 0:17:06.140 --> 0:17:12.220 I'm pulling up the Hebrew here. Uh. And, uh, here's 0:17:12.220 --> 0:17:17.860 what it says. Uh, that's important, I think. Uh, yeah. No, 0:17:17.859 --> 0:17:24.300 it says face to face. Uh. But that's actually a 0:17:24.300 --> 0:17:28.020 figure of speech for which is also, there's another one, 0:17:28.020 --> 0:17:32.219 mouth to mouth. Uh, that's used for the same idea 0:17:32.220 --> 0:17:39.119 of speaking directly, uh, without intermediaries. The way I'd compare 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:45.320 it is it's described this way in numbers, chapter 12, 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.439 verses six through eight. Now in numbers 12. This is 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:52.240 when Aaron and Miriam got all huffy and they said, well, 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:56.199 we're prophets too, right? What's the big deal about Moses? 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.640 Why don't people make a big deal about us? And 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.359 the Lord called him out and he says, listen, this 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:02.919 is what the Lord says to them. Listen to what 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:08.120 I say. If there's a prophet among you from the Lord, 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.320 I might. I make myself known to him in a vision. 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:16.520 I speak with him in a dream. Not so with 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:21.119 my servant Moses. He is faithful in all my house. 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:26.320 I speak with him directly. And this is where it 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:31.480 says mouth to mouth, openly and not in riddles. That's 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.040 where it's, uh, mouth to mouth. So what does it mean? 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.420 That God speaks to Moses? face to face or mouth 0:18:36.420 --> 0:18:40.100 to mouth. It means that he speaks directly with Moses, 0:18:40.100 --> 0:18:43.180 that there's no vision, there's no dream, there's no intermediary. 0:18:43.300 --> 0:18:48.660 It's not that God sees us. Moses sees God's face. 0:18:48.780 --> 0:18:51.820 He doesn't. And the reason I say that is just 0:18:51.820 --> 0:18:58.820 the very point of of John one. Where it says 0:18:58.820 --> 0:19:02.260 in verse 18, uh, this is the question no one 0:19:02.260 --> 0:19:05.620 has ever seen God. Well, Moses hasn't seen God. And 0:19:05.619 --> 0:19:11.860 there are other places as well, uh, where Moses, uh, 0:19:13.140 --> 0:19:17.300 for example, uh, it says in Exodus 3320, the very 0:19:17.300 --> 0:19:22.699 same passage, Exodus 3311, you mentioned, uh, in Exodus 3320, 0:19:22.740 --> 0:19:26.020 that very same passage that Moses wrote. It says, no 0:19:26.020 --> 0:19:29.700 one can see me and live. That's what God says, right? 0:19:29.740 --> 0:19:33.100 So would Moses contradict himself in the very same passage? 0:19:33.180 --> 0:19:39.879 I don't think so. And then in Exodus 24, verses 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:45.639 ten and 11, it's when Moses and the elders see God, right? Uh, 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:50.760 it says that in Exodus 2410 and 11. I'll, I'll 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.320 pull that same book. You know, just so you know, 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:59.480 I'm I'm not I'm not trying to hide things from you, but, uh, 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:03.240 it says, uh, Moses went up. This is verse nine 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:08.080 with Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and 70 of Israel's elders, 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:12.600 and they saw the God of Israel. Huh? Beneath his 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.720 feet was something like a pavement made of sapphire stone 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:18.880 and clear, as clear as the sky itself. God did 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:23.000 not harm the Israelite nobles. They saw him, and they 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:27.520 ate and drank. And people say what? Well, clearly it 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:30.600 was something like a vision, because it describes the pavement 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:33.939 being like sapphire stone and and as clear as the 0:20:33.940 --> 0:20:37.060 sky itself. But then, if you take the word that's 0:20:37.060 --> 0:20:41.899 used twice, saw, it's the, the Hebrew word hasa. And 0:20:41.900 --> 0:20:45.260 that means to see in a vision. It's used that 0:20:45.260 --> 0:20:51.379 way clearly in numbers 24, verses four and 24. 16 0:20:51.420 --> 0:20:55.340 it means to see in a vision. And so I 0:20:55.340 --> 0:20:57.500 think all it means is that Moses went up the 0:20:57.500 --> 0:21:00.300 mountain and they saw a vision of God. They didn't 0:21:00.300 --> 0:21:04.620 literally look at God. They saw God in a vision. 0:21:04.619 --> 0:21:07.380 So now someone who sent you this, this is what 0:21:07.380 --> 0:21:10.660 I'm more interested in. Carol. Why did they send you that? 0:21:10.700 --> 0:21:13.820 Were they troubled or were they trying to trouble you? 0:21:14.740 --> 0:21:18.620 Um, I think they're searching, and I want to give 0:21:18.619 --> 0:21:20.700 them good answers. But I have a feeling they did 0:21:20.700 --> 0:21:23.260 a Google search because they had a lot of these. 0:21:23.340 --> 0:21:23.780 Yeah. 0:21:24.060 --> 0:21:26.420 You know, what it is, is there's a lot of, uh, 0:21:26.420 --> 0:21:29.699 websites that are kind of atheistic and they try to 0:21:29.740 --> 0:21:33.250 point out alleged Contradictions in the Bible. There are bunches 0:21:33.250 --> 0:21:37.209 of books written about alleged contradictions, like this one that 0:21:37.210 --> 0:21:39.450 we just talked about, I wrote about in the 50 0:21:39.490 --> 0:21:41.250 Most Important Bible Questions. 0:21:42.690 --> 0:21:43.170 Okay. 0:21:43.730 --> 0:21:46.929 But there's a really good book, I think probably the 0:21:46.930 --> 0:21:49.170 place to start if you're going to get one book 0:21:49.450 --> 0:21:55.530 that deals with it. Doctor Gleason Archer. Who was a 0:21:55.530 --> 0:21:59.129 professor for many years at Trinity. Uh, one of the 0:21:59.130 --> 0:22:01.810 great privileges I ever had was once teaching a Sunday 0:22:01.810 --> 0:22:05.290 School class. And Doctor Archer in retirement, was in the class. 0:22:05.530 --> 0:22:07.810 And I'm like, oh, I probably shouldn't. 0:22:07.850 --> 0:22:08.369 Oh, wow. 0:22:08.490 --> 0:22:11.570 I remember standing, uh, up in front of the people 0:22:11.570 --> 0:22:13.449 and say, is it true that Doctor Gleason Archer is 0:22:13.450 --> 0:22:15.169 in this class? And he raised his hand and said, 0:22:15.210 --> 0:22:18.129 Doctor Archer, would you please leave? I feel terribly intimidated, 0:22:18.130 --> 0:22:20.369 but he didn't. He was he was a lovely man. 0:22:20.410 --> 0:22:26.649 But anyway, he wrote a book called The Encyclopedia of 0:22:26.650 --> 0:22:28.129 Bible Difficulties. 0:22:29.570 --> 0:22:31.510 Okay, That sounds excellent. 0:22:31.550 --> 0:22:34.630 And it's a it's a big fat book and it 0:22:34.670 --> 0:22:37.750 deals with, I think, every alleged contradiction that you'll ever 0:22:37.750 --> 0:22:41.270 find and shows how they can be harmonized and helped. 0:22:41.430 --> 0:22:45.350 So that's the one I would recommend. The encyclopedia, it's 0:22:45.350 --> 0:22:50.629 been revised now and it's the Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties. 0:22:50.670 --> 0:22:53.350 I find it very helpful. Okay. 0:22:53.510 --> 0:22:55.669 Thank you so much. I really appreciate. 0:22:55.670 --> 0:22:56.110 That. Yeah. 0:22:56.109 --> 0:22:58.550 Thanks so much for calling, Carol. And you know what? 0:22:58.550 --> 0:23:01.869 I pray that you'll have good answers for this person. Uh, 0:23:01.869 --> 0:23:05.510 so as they're seeking, they'll find the Lord. Okay. 0:23:06.270 --> 0:23:06.790 Agreed. 0:23:06.830 --> 0:23:07.910 Thank you. Yeah. 0:23:08.390 --> 0:23:11.070 Uh, we're going to talk to Galen in Ohio, listening 0:23:11.070 --> 0:23:13.869 on CRF. Welcome to Open Line. Galen. How can I 0:23:13.910 --> 0:23:14.470 help you? 0:23:15.510 --> 0:23:20.110 Yes. Um, I want to know about 170 weeks of Daniel. 0:23:20.670 --> 0:23:24.310 What happened? The first 49 years, that'd be seven weeks. 0:23:25.230 --> 0:23:31.970 I counted up to 62 weeks. Was 434 years. I 0:23:31.970 --> 0:23:34.490 knew there was 400 years of silence. 0:23:35.010 --> 0:23:37.650 And okay, you know, we don't want to confuse everybody. 0:23:37.650 --> 0:23:41.650 Let me just try and answer about those seven weeks, okay? 0:23:41.930 --> 0:23:45.010 For I've got a couple of things to say about that, Galen. 0:23:45.050 --> 0:23:49.210 First of all, uh, I'll be speaking on, believe it 0:23:49.210 --> 0:23:52.490 or not, the 70 weeks of Daniel Palm Sunday in 0:23:52.490 --> 0:23:58.490 prophecy tomorrow, uh, at the Discovery Church in Orlando, Florida. 0:23:58.490 --> 0:24:01.850 So if anyone's in the area of Orlando, uh, three 0:24:01.850 --> 0:24:06.130 services tomorrow morning. Uh, it's it's a wonderful church, um, 0:24:06.369 --> 0:24:10.410 a number of campuses. So you could check that out online. Uh, 0:24:10.410 --> 0:24:14.050 tomorrow morning, uh, Discovery Church, Palm Sunday and Prophecy. I'll 0:24:14.050 --> 0:24:18.970 be speaking down there second, uh, in Daniel nine, it 0:24:19.010 --> 0:24:23.010 talks about seven weeks plus 62 weeks. And the question 0:24:23.010 --> 0:24:26.610 is obviously weeks. There refers to seven years. And it 0:24:26.609 --> 0:24:28.870 says from the issuing of a decree to restore and 0:24:28.869 --> 0:24:35.550 rebuild Jerusalem until the Messiah. There's seven weeks and 62 weeks, 0:24:35.790 --> 0:24:39.790 and that comes to 49. The first part of it, 0:24:40.270 --> 0:24:46.669 it's a total of 69 weeks, 483. Years. The the 0:24:46.750 --> 0:24:50.470 word week referring to seven years here in this context. Well, 0:24:50.470 --> 0:24:53.350 why does he break it up? It's because the the 0:24:53.630 --> 0:24:59.790 command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem is where the starting 0:24:59.790 --> 0:25:04.630 point is. And for that issuing of the decree until 0:25:04.630 --> 0:25:08.070 the completion of the rebuilding of Jerusalem, it took 49 0:25:08.070 --> 0:25:11.190 biblical years. And so that's why he breaks it up 0:25:11.190 --> 0:25:17.109 seven weeks plus 62 weeks, making a total of 69 0:25:17.390 --> 0:25:22.870 weeks or 483 biblical years. That's why it does it 0:25:22.869 --> 0:25:26.150 that way. Some people get a little confused because it 0:25:26.210 --> 0:25:31.170 says after the the the seven weeks and the 62 0:25:31.170 --> 0:25:33.889 weeks after the 62 weeks. But that's because it covers 0:25:33.890 --> 0:25:37.530 already the seven weeks now, the 62 weeks makes it 0:25:37.530 --> 0:25:41.889 483 weeks in total. I hope that explained it for 0:25:41.890 --> 0:25:44.130 you a little bit. Galen, thanks a lot for your call. 0:25:44.130 --> 0:25:46.130 We're going to be right back with the mailbag. Trish 0:25:46.130 --> 0:25:49.649 is coming in with the Febc mailbag in just a moment, 0:25:49.650 --> 0:25:53.450 so stay with us. This is open line with Michael Riedel. Nick. 0:26:05.690 --> 0:26:08.730 Welcome back to Open Line. My name is Michael Riedel. Nick, 0:26:08.730 --> 0:26:12.690 joining me right now for the Febc mailbag is Tricia McMillan. 0:26:13.609 --> 0:26:17.090 Far Eastern Broadcasting Company partners with Open Line to bring 0:26:17.090 --> 0:26:20.609 this program to you every week. And they, uh, partner 0:26:20.609 --> 0:26:22.330 with us to bring you the mailbag. And we're so 0:26:22.330 --> 0:26:25.840 appreciative of this ministry that brings the gospel to people 0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:30.760 all across the world, through media and also through personal touch. 0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:33.199 I find that just so terrific. If you'd like to 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.720 know more about how they are reaching the world through 0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:40.440 media and individuals ministering to people face to face, just 0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:47.200 go to their website. There's a link there to their podcast. 0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:49.440 It's called Until All Have Heard. I think you'll really 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:55.320 enjoy listening to that. Um, Trish is joining me right now. Hey, Tricia. 0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:57.280 There's something I wanted to ask you about. 0:26:57.320 --> 0:26:57.679 Yeah. 0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:03.879 So we have, uh, this great conference every year for 0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.640 women right here on our campus. It's this year. It's 0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:11.280 April 12th, which is the first. That night is Passover. 0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:13.320 So I guess they're getting ready for Passover. They're going 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:14.280 to gather. No. 0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:17.399 I'm sure that's. I'm sure that's how they how they 0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:18.320 planned it. Yeah. 0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:22.879 But, uh, it's called ready called because women are called 0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:25.100 of God to serve him, and I think it is 0:27:25.100 --> 0:27:29.780 an outstanding program. We've got some great speakers this year. Uh, 0:27:30.500 --> 0:27:34.100 Sandra Glenn, who is a professor at my alma mater, 0:27:34.100 --> 0:27:42.100 Dallas Seminary, and also Elizabeth Woodson, who is actually she 0:27:42.100 --> 0:27:45.300 also went to to DTS. It's a DTS conference, apparently. 0:27:45.340 --> 0:27:46.139 It does sound like it. 0:27:46.180 --> 0:27:48.100 Yeah, it doesn't it, but it's a moody conference. Yes. 0:27:48.140 --> 0:27:51.899 And we've got there's great workshops. Have you ever done, uh, 0:27:52.540 --> 0:27:53.700 one of these conferences? 0:27:53.740 --> 0:27:56.900 I have not, because they're on Saturdays and I'm usually 0:27:56.940 --> 0:28:00.020 at open line for those. However, my sister has done 0:28:00.020 --> 0:28:03.859 the last several, and she has really enjoyed them. Um, they, 0:28:03.859 --> 0:28:07.859 they the breakout sessions and the discussions. And last year 0:28:07.859 --> 0:28:11.180 she was telling me that there were these breakout groups. Um, 0:28:11.300 --> 0:28:14.820 there were these groups that they that you could voluntarily 0:28:14.820 --> 0:28:17.500 be a part of that were, um, that kind of 0:28:17.500 --> 0:28:19.619 went throughout the year and they would kind of check 0:28:19.619 --> 0:28:23.320 in periodically with each other. Um, and so it was 0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.960 a it went beyond just this one day conference. And 0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.680 I think, are you able to attend it online as 0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:30.520 well as in person? 0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:33.200 I think so. Yeah, it's online and in person options. 0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.439 It's a really terrific, uh, program. I think, you know, 0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:38.680 if I were a woman, I wouldn't want to miss this. Yeah, 0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:42.520 I think that I try to sneak in sometimes Saturdays afterwards, 0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.480 but they won't let me in the back. I'm sorry. 0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.479 I tried a wig one year. They. They saw. Right? No, 0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:48.320 I didn't really know. 0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.800 There's great Bible teachers. It's a great time to connect 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:54.280 with other women, worship with other women who are ministering 0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:58.080 in their churches, in their homes, um, in their communities, 0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:00.560 and be able to connect with other women who are 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.920 like minded and also want to grow in their knowledge 0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:04.680 of Christ. 0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:07.719 Yeah. And their their service. Yeah. And their ability to 0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.360 serve him. Well, I think it's a great program. And 0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:12.360 if you want to know more about it, uh, whether 0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.880 you want to join us here on the campus in Chicago, 0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.480 which I think is always better, uh, or online, just 0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:23.580 go to Moody conferences. Dot com. Moody conferences.com. And there'll 0:29:23.620 --> 0:29:26.420 be a link there for the called conference and it's 0:29:26.420 --> 0:29:29.180 led by Doctor Pam McRae, who's uh, she and her 0:29:29.180 --> 0:29:31.700 husband Bob are dear friends of mine and. 0:29:32.100 --> 0:29:32.940 Professors at Moody. 0:29:32.980 --> 0:29:35.380 They're professors of Moody. We've taught here just about the 0:29:35.380 --> 0:29:38.820 same amount of time. Uh, she's an outstanding teacher. She's 0:29:38.820 --> 0:29:40.620 going to be one of the plenary speakers as well. 0:29:40.620 --> 0:29:41.220 So don't miss. 0:29:41.260 --> 0:29:43.180 It. And I will add a link to our website. 0:29:43.180 --> 0:29:44.700 It's not there yet and I'm on the air, so 0:29:44.700 --> 0:29:47.020 I can't do it right this second. But I will 0:29:47.020 --> 0:29:49.300 add a link to our website as well if you 0:29:49.660 --> 0:29:50.940 can't remember the website. 0:29:50.980 --> 0:29:56.060 Great Moody conferences.com. Okay, uh, we've got the mailbag here. 0:29:56.420 --> 0:29:59.460 All right. We do have the mailbag. And our first 0:29:59.460 --> 0:30:03.940 question is from Deborah in Ohio, listens to CRF. Are 0:30:03.940 --> 0:30:06.780 the two loaves of leavened bread used in the wave 0:30:06.780 --> 0:30:10.020 offering in the Feast of Weeks in Leviticus, foreshadowing of 0:30:10.020 --> 0:30:12.620 or representative of the Jews and Gentiles both being part 0:30:12.620 --> 0:30:16.020 of the church later. I've read differing views on this. 0:30:16.060 --> 0:30:18.900 Yeah, there's a lot of people who want to say that, uh, 0:30:18.940 --> 0:30:25.640 you know, the two made into one? Uh, honestly, you 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:31.000 wouldn't read that in the book of Leviticus. In Leviticus 23. 0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:35.640 And see that. And the reason is in Ephesians three 0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:41.280 where it talks about, uh, the, the church. 0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:41.800 Mhm. 0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:46.440 Uh, this is what this is something I think that's 0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:50.200 important to remember that the Old Testament does indeed talk 0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:55.160 about Gentiles getting saved. There's no question about it. But 0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:58.719 when it talks about the mystery of the Messiah, the 0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:03.400 mystery of the church, that Jew and Gentile are co-heirs, 0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:07.640 members of the same body, partners as verse six says, 0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:11.640 verse five says this. This was not made known to 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:17.120 people in other generations, as it is now revealed by 0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:20.030 his holy apostles and prophets. So I don't think there 0:31:20.030 --> 0:31:24.790 were even types, pictures, patterns of what the church would 0:31:24.790 --> 0:31:28.670 be in the Old Testament. Uh, that that was a 0:31:28.790 --> 0:31:33.390 new a secret that was revealed and given to us 0:31:33.390 --> 0:31:36.990 through the apostles. And so I don't think it really 0:31:36.990 --> 0:31:40.470 points to that, although it's a nice illustration, so to speak. 0:31:40.710 --> 0:31:43.830 It is. It is a nice picture. Um, and I 0:31:43.830 --> 0:31:49.110 think so as a Gentile, so much emphasis. Emphasis seems 0:31:49.110 --> 0:31:52.470 to be put on unleavened bread that I don't think 0:31:52.470 --> 0:31:56.470 of there being leavened bread. Yeah, very often, because anytime 0:31:56.470 --> 0:32:00.270 it's mentioned it's like unleavened bread. But there would have been. 0:32:00.670 --> 0:32:01.510 There's two loaves. 0:32:01.630 --> 0:32:02.550 Leavened bread. 0:32:02.590 --> 0:32:02.950 Yeah. 0:32:02.990 --> 0:32:05.670 That's what makes unleavened bread. Unleavened bread is you know, 0:32:05.670 --> 0:32:08.710 it's mentioned because of the speed that they had to 0:32:08.710 --> 0:32:10.750 leave Egypt. They wouldn't have time to let the bread rise. 0:32:10.750 --> 0:32:13.230 They just needed to cook it. And so that's why 0:32:13.270 --> 0:32:15.310 unleavened cakes were used. 0:32:15.350 --> 0:32:16.590 That was not the normal. 0:32:16.730 --> 0:32:18.610 Know people ate regular bread. Yeah. 0:32:18.650 --> 0:32:21.890 Okay. They would normally live in bread. Okay. Yeah. All right. Um, 0:32:22.930 --> 0:32:26.930 Jeff in Washington listens to KMP. Book of numbers. Gives 0:32:26.930 --> 0:32:31.010 a lot of detail on sacrificing animals in numbers 29, 0:32:31.010 --> 0:32:34.530 the Festival of Booths lays out various offerings to the Lord. 0:32:34.730 --> 0:32:37.410 And there seems. And he added up how many? So 0:32:37.410 --> 0:32:43.450 there's a lot of animal sacrificed. Were these animals burned? Um, 0:32:43.490 --> 0:32:47.130 burned to ash? Or were they shared among the Levites? 0:32:47.130 --> 0:32:50.650 Among the people? Like what? What happened to the meat 0:32:50.690 --> 0:32:54.690 itself when it was after it was sacrificed? I think 0:32:54.690 --> 0:32:57.730 my my thought is always when we talk about this 0:32:57.730 --> 0:33:00.410 with Jephthah's daughter, it's like not to bring up that, 0:33:00.410 --> 0:33:05.170 but but I hear sacrifice, I think almost like burned 0:33:05.170 --> 0:33:09.850 and decimated, like there's nothing left. However, I don't know 0:33:09.850 --> 0:33:13.290 if that's the case, and that's just my assumption because 0:33:13.290 --> 0:33:15.170 that happens in one particular case. 0:33:15.350 --> 0:33:17.469 Well, that's because the whole burnt offering. 0:33:17.710 --> 0:33:18.190 Yeah. 0:33:18.510 --> 0:33:20.390 But they're not all whole burnt offerings. 0:33:20.430 --> 0:33:20.910 Okay. 0:33:21.270 --> 0:33:25.990 Um. And so now I didn't add them up recently, 0:33:25.990 --> 0:33:29.910 but when I added them up, they were 70. Uh, 0:33:29.910 --> 0:33:34.830 and the rabbis have always recognized 70 bowls. Yeah. 70 sacrifices. Yeah. 0:33:34.870 --> 0:33:35.229 Okay. 0:33:35.590 --> 0:33:40.870 And, uh, the idea was that the 70 sacrifices, because 0:33:40.870 --> 0:33:43.430 they go on and on, like on on the first day, 0:33:44.830 --> 0:33:48.630 13 young bulls, two rams, 14 lambs a year old 0:33:48.710 --> 0:33:51.790 and so forth. Uh, and then on the second day, 0:33:51.830 --> 0:33:55.430 12 young bulls and so forth. I really need to 0:33:55.430 --> 0:33:56.190 recount them. 0:33:56.350 --> 0:33:58.590 But but it's a lot of animals. 0:33:58.630 --> 0:34:00.510 But it's not just a lot. But the rabbis say 0:34:00.510 --> 0:34:04.110 they they're linked to the 70 nations of the earth 0:34:04.110 --> 0:34:09.270 that are mentioned in Genesis and that there's 70 sacrifices. 0:34:09.630 --> 0:34:13.710 And at this point to the Feast of Booths being 0:34:13.710 --> 0:34:17.489 the day when the whole world, all the nations, will 0:34:17.489 --> 0:34:21.049 know the Lord. And that's what happens in Zechariah 14 0:34:21.290 --> 0:34:26.730 when you have, uh, the messianic kingdom, when Jesus is reigning. 0:34:26.930 --> 0:34:29.049 And it says that the one holiday that all the 0:34:29.050 --> 0:34:32.730 nations will have to celebrate is the Feast of Booths, 0:34:32.890 --> 0:34:36.130 because they'll all have to come to Israel to celebrate 0:34:36.130 --> 0:34:39.050 the Feast of Booths. I think that's that's kind of interesting, 0:34:39.090 --> 0:34:42.569 don't you think? But, uh, as for I think that 0:34:42.570 --> 0:34:46.810 these sacrifices would have been, uh, eaten by the Offerers 0:34:47.130 --> 0:34:49.129 and the priests. 0:34:49.890 --> 0:34:50.370 Okay. 0:34:50.570 --> 0:34:53.250 Yeah, but that is not true of the burnt offering. 0:34:53.290 --> 0:34:53.810 The whole burnt. 0:34:53.850 --> 0:34:58.009 Offering and Leviticus. Uh. That's different. That's that was a 0:34:58.010 --> 0:34:59.810 complete offering. 0:34:59.850 --> 0:35:03.009 Okay, but for the ones that were just sacrificed, the 0:35:03.010 --> 0:35:04.290 meat didn't go to waste. 0:35:04.330 --> 0:35:05.730 No, it was the. 0:35:05.850 --> 0:35:08.850 Let me rephrase. An offering to the Lord does not 0:35:08.850 --> 0:35:10.730 go to waste. No, but. 0:35:10.730 --> 0:35:13.720 But there. There was a meal offering. 0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.719 There was a meal. Okay. Yeah. Okay. 0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:16.040 That's it. 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:17.280 And then they would have the bones. 0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:21.360 I think they would take the unclean parts out to the. 0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:25.240 There was a place outside the camp where the unclean 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.560 parts that could not be eaten, the intestines, things like 0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.120 that would be burned up. 0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:32.640 Okay. And then you would have the bones left over. 0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.200 Just make a pile of bones. 0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:38.000 Uh, yeah. I guess, you know, I'm. I wasn't there. 0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:38.440 But. 0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:39.600 That's what I'm guessing. 0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:42.120 But they have found at some archaeological digs, they have 0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:43.200 found piles of bones. 0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:44.880 Right. When you when you go to the site of 0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:49.799 the tabernacle in Shiloh or Shiloh, as you would say. Mhm. Um, 0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:54.080 they've actually found sacrificial bones and it was, that's where the, 0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:58.360 the Tabernacle stood for about 400 years. And they actually 0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.000 have located the spot. That's the exact dimensions of where 0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:02.880 the tabernacle would have stood. Wow. 0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:04.200 So that's amazing. 0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.400 Yeah. Okay, let's do another question. 0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:11.620 All right. Um, next question is from Douglas. 0:36:11.700 --> 0:36:12.140 No. Let's do. 0:36:12.180 --> 0:36:12.580 Chris. 0:36:12.820 --> 0:36:13.140 Let's do. 0:36:13.180 --> 0:36:13.939 Chris. Chris. 0:36:13.980 --> 0:36:15.419 Okay, because I can answer it fast. 0:36:15.460 --> 0:36:18.739 Okay. Chris in Michigan listens to Wgme. My father, who 0:36:18.739 --> 0:36:22.140 does claim to be a believer, is sick from cancer 0:36:22.140 --> 0:36:25.260 and is dying. But he's also fascinated with UFO shows 0:36:25.260 --> 0:36:28.299 and aliens and their existence and spends much of his 0:36:28.300 --> 0:36:31.219 time watching these shows. It concerns me because I feel 0:36:31.219 --> 0:36:33.340 like it's a stumbling block. What would you say to 0:36:33.340 --> 0:36:36.380 someone so consumed with this? I don't want him believing 0:36:36.380 --> 0:36:37.899 something that's incorrect. 0:36:38.340 --> 0:36:41.140 Well, it's not an essential doctrine to believe in UFOs 0:36:41.180 --> 0:36:44.020 or not. You know, maybe God created other worlds. People 0:36:44.020 --> 0:36:47.940 think I don't, but, uh, you know, C.S. Lewis wrote 0:36:47.980 --> 0:36:53.580 science fiction trilogy, and, uh, there were people on, uh, 0:36:53.739 --> 0:36:57.300 Venus that were like Adam and Eve on that. 0:36:57.340 --> 0:36:58.100 In his stories. 0:36:58.100 --> 0:37:02.259 In his story. Yeah. So, you know, I think if 0:37:02.260 --> 0:37:05.620 you're dying of cancer, your dad's dying of cancer. And 0:37:05.620 --> 0:37:10.020 this is something that he enjoys, you know, don't worry, 0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:13.160 as long as he knows the Lord and believes that 0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:16.399 Jesus died for his sins and rose again and is 0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:20.680 trusting in him. I would say, don't be perturbed about this. 0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:23.759 That's what I would, I would, I would just let 0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:24.200 it go. 0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:30.280 If you if you are um, if you are not. 0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:31.000 Dying of. 0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:34.120 Cancer, you're not. Yeah. Like, if you're just going about 0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:37.160 your business and this becomes, I guess, at what point, 0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.200 you know, does it become that becomes all consuming? 0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:40.560 Well, I would. 0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:43.799 Say know that you're you're focusing everything on that and 0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:45.880 it almost becomes an idol, as it were. 0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:48.719 I would say that the best thing to do is 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:52.680 to focus on the scriptures and and what the what 0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.839 the Bible tells us is plain. And so that that's 0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:58.160 just a good thing. We shouldn't become obsessed with anything 0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:01.360 that takes us away from that. Okay. But, uh, you know, 0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:03.919 I wouldn't worry about his dad if I were you. 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:04.840 All right. Thank you. 0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:06.920 Thanks for bringing those in. We're going to be right 0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.100 back with more of your calls right here on Open Line. 0:38:09.100 --> 0:38:12.380 That was Tricia McMillan. I'm Michael Ray Melnick. Stay with us. 0:38:27.420 --> 0:38:30.259 And we're back. My name is Michael Ray Melnick. So 0:38:30.260 --> 0:38:32.660 glad to be with you this Saturday morning talking about 0:38:32.660 --> 0:38:37.299 the scriptures. Your questions. Really appreciate it. If you can't call, 0:38:37.460 --> 0:38:38.900 you know, what you could always do is you can 0:38:38.900 --> 0:38:43.660 go to our website, openline radio. 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And in it, Doctor Al Mohler, 0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:09.230 who's the president of Southern Baptist Seminary. He argues that 0:40:09.230 --> 0:40:12.110 bringing the gospel to the Jewish people is the best 0:40:12.110 --> 0:40:15.629 example of our faithfulness to the truth. If you'd like 0:40:15.630 --> 0:40:21.069 a free copy of this really helpful book, go to openlibrary.org. Again, 0:40:21.110 --> 0:40:24.710 that's our website, Openline radio.org. Scroll down and you'll see 0:40:24.710 --> 0:40:28.150 a link that says A Free gift from Chosen People Ministries, 0:40:28.350 --> 0:40:31.790 and you'll be able to get your copy of To 0:40:31.830 --> 0:40:35.710 the Jew First in the 21st century. Okay, we're going 0:40:35.710 --> 0:40:39.350 to go to the phones and talk to Dan, uh, 0:40:39.350 --> 0:40:42.910 in Tampa, Florida, listening on keys. Welcome to Open Line, Dan. 0:40:42.950 --> 0:40:43.910 How can I help you? 0:40:45.070 --> 0:40:50.870 Yes. Uh uh uh, doctor, I, uh, have been studying 0:40:50.870 --> 0:40:56.710 Romans nine for a while now, and as I study it, 0:40:56.710 --> 0:41:00.830 I couldn't really grasp everything that's there. Of course. What 0:41:00.830 --> 0:41:07.210 can you completely grasp of God? Uh, nothing. Anyway, I 0:41:07.410 --> 0:41:13.010 got the concordance out and, uh, started reading Romans nine, 0:41:13.010 --> 0:41:17.570 verse by verse with the concordance, and and what I, 0:41:17.610 --> 0:41:22.529 I finally discovered is this is this word, uh, the 0:41:22.570 --> 0:41:31.169 chosen based on noble and ignoble vessels. Um, as as 0:41:31.210 --> 0:41:35.170 it's described, the chosen, they go all the way back 0:41:35.170 --> 0:41:40.410 to before time began. So as I as I looked 0:41:40.410 --> 0:41:44.690 at this and studied it through the concordance, I actually found. 0:41:44.730 --> 0:41:46.330 Well, you know what? I don't know what you're talking 0:41:46.330 --> 0:41:48.730 about when you say you studied it with the concordance. 0:41:48.730 --> 0:41:49.890 What do you mean by that? 0:41:50.810 --> 0:41:55.050 Well, um, the concordance, if if you go to Romans 0:41:55.050 --> 0:41:57.490 chapter nine, in the concordance. 0:41:58.050 --> 0:42:00.770 Uh, I know, I know what a concordance is. What 0:42:00.770 --> 0:42:02.530 are you doing? Are you looking up all the usages 0:42:02.530 --> 0:42:04.390 of every word? Is that what you're doing? 0:42:05.350 --> 0:42:08.029 Well, no, I probably have it wrong, then. It's not 0:42:08.030 --> 0:42:13.190 the concordance. It's, um. Um. I can't think of the word. 0:42:13.230 --> 0:42:13.830 Commentary. 0:42:13.830 --> 0:42:19.790 But. Yeah. Commentary. I'm sorry. And so, uh, the commentary 0:42:19.830 --> 0:42:24.630 actually sends you all over the Bible on every verse. 0:42:24.630 --> 0:42:26.350 You can just go through it. Okay. 0:42:26.590 --> 0:42:28.390 Okay. You know what? I think the best thing to 0:42:28.390 --> 0:42:30.589 do is, instead of telling me about your study, can 0:42:30.590 --> 0:42:33.110 you tell me what your question is? Is that okay? 0:42:33.150 --> 0:42:39.190 Yes. Yes, sir. Uh, my question is this based on, uh, 0:42:40.310 --> 0:42:46.270 the chosen being done at the foundation of time with 0:42:46.270 --> 0:42:49.150 God where he actually says that he knew. 0:42:49.190 --> 0:42:51.670 Okay. And your question is. 0:42:52.550 --> 0:42:59.070 Yeah. And my question is this. Uh, that being the truth, um, 0:43:00.270 --> 0:43:05.569 Christ died for the sins of the world. But the 0:43:05.570 --> 0:43:10.170 problem that it's not a problem, but the thing that 0:43:10.170 --> 0:43:14.009 I'm seeing here is, even though he died for all 0:43:14.050 --> 0:43:18.090 the sins of the world, he actually didn't really die 0:43:18.210 --> 0:43:23.890 for every person because there is a chosen people that 0:43:23.890 --> 0:43:28.810 he died actually for. And as I find out in 0:43:28.810 --> 0:43:33.569 the commentary, even the chosen, it says, cannot come to 0:43:33.610 --> 0:43:40.130 Christ unless they hear the gospel first. And so so 0:43:40.170 --> 0:43:42.210 I'm I'm not in. 0:43:42.210 --> 0:43:47.410 Okay. I think I think I think what you're asking is, um, 0:43:48.250 --> 0:43:54.569 that did Christ only die for the elect? And, uh, that. 0:43:54.810 --> 0:43:56.770 Does everyone get to hear the gospel? 0:43:58.530 --> 0:43:58.850 No. 0:43:59.210 --> 0:44:04.510 Uh uh, no. no, not that specifically. Uh, but but 0:44:04.510 --> 0:44:09.870 the real absolute root question that I'm asking here is, 0:44:10.310 --> 0:44:13.750 is everyone born from from Adam and Eve till the 0:44:13.750 --> 0:44:19.109 end of time? Are all those people going to be 0:44:19.150 --> 0:44:25.509 able to be saved based on, uh, noble vessels and 0:44:25.510 --> 0:44:28.390 the chosen of God from the foundation? 0:44:28.550 --> 0:44:33.190 So are you asking if there's universalism that all are saved? 0:44:34.350 --> 0:44:34.870 No. 0:44:34.910 --> 0:44:35.310 Okay. 0:44:35.710 --> 0:44:37.710 You know what? Let me just do my best to 0:44:37.750 --> 0:44:42.750 explain what I understand about election. Okay. Uh, I think 0:44:42.750 --> 0:44:47.310 it's really important. Uh, now, now, Dan, the Bible says 0:44:47.310 --> 0:44:49.670 that we are chosen before the foundation of the world. 0:44:49.670 --> 0:44:52.109 We're predestined to be trophies of his grace. That's all 0:44:52.110 --> 0:44:57.550 from Ephesians one. It says this similar things in Romans nine. Uh, 0:44:57.670 --> 0:45:01.500 I really believe that. And yet, one of the things 0:45:01.500 --> 0:45:08.180 that I see in Scripture in, uh, in, uh, Romans 0:45:08.180 --> 0:45:14.100 chapter one, is that no one who doesn't believe is 0:45:14.100 --> 0:45:20.860 without excuse. Um, and what what that means is in, 0:45:20.900 --> 0:45:24.100 in Romans 120, it says for his invisible attributes, that is, 0:45:24.100 --> 0:45:27.980 his eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen 0:45:28.180 --> 0:45:32.020 since the creation of the world, being understood through what 0:45:32.020 --> 0:45:37.180 he has made. As a result, people are without excuse. 0:45:37.180 --> 0:45:42.739 Romans 119 and 20 or 120 as I guess, good, 0:45:42.780 --> 0:45:48.060 good enough 120. Here's my point that the the the 0:45:48.100 --> 0:45:51.140 Word of God has gone out. The revelation have gone 0:45:51.140 --> 0:45:54.859 out either through general revelation, which, if people respond to God, 0:45:54.860 --> 0:45:58.279 will give them more special, direct revelation in the sense 0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:02.240 of a person coming and proclaiming the gospel or, uh, 0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:06.760 they will, uh, hear the gospel from others or from 0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:10.840 other media. That's that's what I would say happens. But no, 0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:15.840 everyone doesn't, uh, hear the gospel exactly the same way, 0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:20.480 but there's a general call for salvation. Well, thanks for listening, everyone. 0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:23.279 That's the first hour. Keep listening. 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