WEBVTT - Let’s Show Gospel Compassion

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<v S1>Coming to you from the Morning Star Mission sponsored studio.

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<v S1>This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>Carl and crew come as you are. Overcome what seems impossible.

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<v S2>Live as you never imagined. Is that possible? It's all

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<v S2>done in the name of Jesus. It's interesting. A lot

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<v S2>of us look at if we maybe tag on in

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<v S2>Jesus name, that that is the way we pray. That

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<v S2>was never the intent in the name of Jesus. And

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<v S2>praying in Jesus name. Is that the embodiment of what

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<v S2>we just shared, God willing, is true to who we are,

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<v S2>true to the character of God, true to the truth

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<v S2>of God's Word. And we say it all in the

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<v S2>name of Jesus, meaning he has the efficacy. He has

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<v S2>the ability. He has the power to change not only us,

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<v S2>but those people around us here today. You know, I

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<v S2>am aware this morning that you get up and you

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<v S2>have things on your heart that are heavy And one

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<v S2>of the great tools of transformation that is right at

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<v S2>the ready here today is to be able to pray

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<v S2>and ask God, God, what would you do today? It's

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<v S2>easy to ask, what am I going to do today?

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<v S2>How am I going to handle this? How am I

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<v S2>going to overcome this obstacle that's standing right in front

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<v S2>of me? How am I going to deal with a

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<v S2>wayward kid that's assaulting me verbally? I mean, fill in

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<v S2>the blank. But there's a beautiful thing that we can

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<v S2>do when we, in the name of Jesus, take all

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<v S2>the trials and the challenges that we're going to face

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<v S2>today and just lay them before God. There's something about open,

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<v S2>honest vulnerability. The greatest prayers are not these surface prayers,

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<v S2>but they go deep down to the innermost groanings of

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<v S2>our heart. You find that in David. It's a beautiful thing.

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<v S2>And I think that deep work that God wants to

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<v S2>do in us is one of the ones that we

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<v S2>most avoid. Why do we avoid the deep work that

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<v S2>God wants to do in us, young thunder?

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<v S3>Because the deep work can hurt a little bit. Sometimes

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<v S3>I think that it involves, uh, a little bit more digging.

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<v S3>And sometimes the deeper you get, the more you maybe

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<v S3>identify things. Pain in your past that is hard to

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<v S3>recount or something that you need to admit that you

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<v S3>don't want to admit. You know, it can require hard

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<v S3>things sometimes to go deeper.

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<v S2>Can really can. It can get really tough. And the

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<v S2>beautiful thing about the Word of God is it reveals

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<v S2>deep work all over the place. When that comes into

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<v S2>our mind and we just become kind of intellectual brokers.

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<v S2>Knowledge brokers is what I love to call it. When

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<v S2>we become brokers of knowledge, there can be some liberty

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<v S2>in that. But when we become brokers of truth that

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<v S2>digs down deep and really cares for the souls of people. Boy,

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<v S2>it changes everything. When we think about the harvest that's

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<v S2>ready in this world today, it's. It's real, isn't it?

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<v S2>I mean, we see we see a lot of pain.

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<v S2>We see a lot of recklessness. And I think we're

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<v S2>tempted to say things never change. They're always going to

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<v S2>be this way. But we live in the kingdom of God.

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<v S2>We live in a new kingdom. And, you know, there's

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<v S2>so much going on. I'm thinking about what's happening in

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<v S2>New York. And they had a big vote yesterday. I

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<v S2>don't think it's the final vote. It's the primary.

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<v S3>Primary?

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<v S2>Yeah. For the mayor of New York. And boy, there's

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<v S2>a lot of different choices that people have. And. The

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<v S2>question comes up, are we going to be political animals

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<v S2>that have strong opinions and maybe wring our hands about

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<v S2>whatever kind of a political, social, cultural thing that we see?

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<v S2>Or are we going to be spiritual children of God

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<v S2>that go before his throne and lay it out? We

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<v S2>don't have because we don't ask at times. And whether

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<v S2>it's a national or local or very personal issue that's

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<v S2>on your heart today. One of the great tools of

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<v S2>transformation is that we can bring our heart before the Lord,

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<v S2>open it up and say, father, here's my situation and

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<v S2>this is the beautiful place where real work gets done.

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<v S2>Now I want to show this to you because oftentimes

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<v S2>we say we want to raise up workers for the

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<v S2>harvest field because look at the harvest, man. It's so ripe.

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<v S2>And we and we underestimate the two pronged approach to

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<v S2>care for those that are in the harvest. We don't

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<v S2>look at the context of the passage. It's easy to

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<v S2>say the harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. Therefore,

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<v S2>pray earnestly for the Lord of the harvest to send

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<v S2>out laborers into his harvest. The question is, what is

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<v S2>the work that's to be done by the laborers? Fair enough.

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<v S3>Fair enough.

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<v S2>We got to ask that one, don't we? Super dei

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<v S2>every time. If we're raising up workers, what in the

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<v S2>world kind of work are the workers going to be doing?

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<v S3>Well, you kind of want to know that.

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<v S4>Thank you. Yeah.

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<v S2>So coming up here in a moment, I just I

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<v S2>really felt prompted this morning that we needed to talk

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<v S2>about what is this work. Because these tools of transformation

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<v S2>that we're talking about all week long. And we're going

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<v S2>to have Jim Coakley in here talking about a book

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<v S2>that's been highly endorsed, by the way, not only by

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<v S2>my bride, who says it's the best book she's ever

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<v S2>read to understand the scriptures as she reads it, but

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<v S2>it's a book that helps us then take the truths

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<v S2>that we understand and use them as tools in practical ways,

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<v S2>in our life and in the life of others. Coming

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<v S2>up here in a moment. Matthew nine. The harvest is plentiful,

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<v S2>but the laborers are few. Therefore, pray earnestly to the

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<v S2>Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest.

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<v S2>What are the laborers to do? It's right in the

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<v S2>context of the passage, and we'll break it down. This

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<v S2>is Caleb. And John. Got a hallelujah feeling this morning.

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<v S2>Give God praise. No matter what you're going through. Give

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<v S2>voice in prayer to God today for that thing. Watch

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<v S2>him work.

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<v S1>He's a sports fanatic with a stat for anything you

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<v S1>can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's

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<v S1>curl and crew on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>You know, there is a awesome thing that we find

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<v S2>in the scriptures. And I'm going to give you the

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<v S2>passage and then I'm going to illustrate this, and then

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<v S2>I'm going to ask you to call in and illustrate

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<v S2>it from your own life. The harvest is plentiful, but

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<v S2>the laborers are few. Therefore, pray earnestly to the Lord

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<v S2>of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest field.

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<v S2>When we think about labors, what do we commonly think, guys?

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<v S3>Well, I think we laborers in a spiritual sense.

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<v S4>Yeah. Pastors.

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<v S2>Missionaries, I think.

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<v S3>Missionaries, yeah. People who were who were volunteering each week

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<v S3>on a team, you know, an evangelist, something like that.

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<v S4>Yeah.

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<v S2>Yeah. And I think that's good.

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<v S3>Yeah.

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<v S2>But it's not great because we're missing something like the

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<v S2>broadside of a barn here. This is one of the

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<v S2>most powerful things. And this is going to this for

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<v S2>some of you. You're going to go, oh, I know

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<v S2>who did this for me. This is what Jesus said.

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<v S2>He went throughout all the cities and villages, teaching in

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<v S2>their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom. Okay.

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<v S2>That we would say that's work. That's harvest.

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<v S4>Work.

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<v S3>That's a harvest.

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<v S4>That's it.

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<v S2>But he goes on and healing every disease and affliction.

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<v S2>When he saw the crowds, he had compassion for them

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<v S2>because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd. Whoa!

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<v S2>Hold it here a second. He went into the synagogues

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<v S2>and preached, but he healed. And if you think about healing,

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<v S2>there's a certain amount of proximity that goes far deeper

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<v S2>than just teaching in a synagogue, sitting at a pulpit.

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<v S2>It gets into the life of someone, you know, how

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<v S2>they're injured, how they're hurting, what they need. But then

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<v S2>you see the real flavor of this. When he saw

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<v S2>the crowds, he had compassion for them because they were

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<v S2>harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd. The one

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<v S2>time you see Jesus really weeping was when he looked

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<v S2>at a city of Jerusalem, and he knew that they

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<v S2>were hurting people. There's a certain amount of empathy where

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<v S2>you get into the muck of a person's life, and

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<v S2>the heart behind it is not just gospel proclamation, but

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<v S2>gospel compassion. Passion. Gospel compassion. One of the coolest things

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<v S2>that ever happened to me. The first taste I ever

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<v S2>got of gospel compassion, probably beyond my parents. I knew

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<v S2>that my mom and dad had compassion for me. Sure.

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<v S2>You know, I think one of the plates for a

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<v S2>lot of kids that were raised in church is that

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<v S2>we almost take for granted the love of mom and dad.

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<v S2>But boy, when you feel it from someone else, Katie

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<v S2>bar the door. I was working in the oil fields,

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<v S2>really running from God and I love to tell this story.

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<v S2>And British Petroleum, I was working for them. They had a.

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<v S2>This is back in the Wild West. Days were 300

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<v S2>miles north of the Arctic Circle. We're in this beautiful facility,

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<v S2>and they had contracted in a band and they had

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<v S2>an open bar. They don't have open bars anymore, but

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<v S2>they had an open bar and the partying was heavy.

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<v S2>We worked 12 hours on, 12 hours off for a

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<v S2>week to two weeks, sometimes four weeks, and then back home.

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<v S2>A hitch was 12 hours a day minimum. Sometimes it

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<v S2>went well beyond that. So you were up there to work,

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<v S2>but occasionally they would have these parties trying to keep

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<v S2>the troops morale up and things like that. So I

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<v S2>had a few in me and I looked across while

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<v S2>the band was playing. They were playing a good song.

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<v S2>I'm saying with a few buddies and I there, I

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<v S2>saw Dave Churchill. Can't wait to talk with this guy

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<v S2>in heaven. Dave Churchill was planting a church with my

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<v S2>mom and dad outside Anchorage, Alaska. He was a man's man.

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<v S2>Former Alaska state trooper, now a security guard, retired security

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<v S2>guard at British Petroleum, up in the oil fields. And

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<v S2>here he comes walking my way. And I'm like, I

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<v S2>might have been maybe the first guy to coin the

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<v S2>phrase hold my beer.

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<v S3>But not in the way that people think. You were afraid.

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<v S4>I'm scared. Where can I crawl under something?

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<v S2>Here comes Dave Churchill. And I thought, oh boy, I'm

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<v S2>going to get scolded. Well, he did something worse. He

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<v S2>put his arm around me. The band playing kind of

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<v S2>yelled quietly into my ear because the band's loud. He said, hey, Carl,

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<v S2>it's good to see you. How are you, buddy? I said,

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<v S2>I'm doing great, Dave. Trying not to breathe on him.

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<v S2>Doing great Dave. Doing great. Uh, don't tell my parents

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<v S2>that I got alcohol on my breath up here, even

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<v S2>though they knew it. And he put his arm around

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<v S2>me and he said, look at me. And I looked

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<v S2>at him. And in those eyes were compassion, genuine compassion.

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<v S2>And what was worse than getting kind of tongue lashed

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<v S2>with not being in church and having a beer in

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<v S2>my hand that he clearly saw, even though now my

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<v S2>buddy had it. He looked at me and he said, hey, listen.

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<v S2>Life on the slope, it's called the slope. Life on

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<v S2>the slope can be tough, man. If you ever need

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<v S2>anyone to talk to and we're on the same hitch.

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<v S2>I'm here for you, bro. Yeah, well, it was awful.

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<v S3>And, yeah, I know it was awful.

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<v S2>Dave Churchill was one of the first guys ever in

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<v S2>my life that reached below gospel presentation to have empathy.

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<v S2>And it was powerful. God used Dave Churchill and a

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<v S2>set of other circumstances to call me out of darkness

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<v S2>and into light. Because when the chips are down, for

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<v S2>someone who's really hurting, the very kind of people that

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<v S2>Jesus looked at and said, they're harassed and helpless like

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<v S2>sheep without a shepherd. That's who flashes through your head.

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<v S2>It's that kind of compassion, that kind of empathy. It's

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<v S2>a powerful thing, guys. Yeah. One of the tools of transformation,

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<v S2>when we think about workers that are being raised up

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<v S2>for the harvest field, is not just gospel proclamation. It's

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<v S2>heartfelt compassion, willing to get into the weeds and the

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<v S2>muck and the mire with someone and say, hey, if

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<v S2>you ever need to talk to anyone, I'm here. It's

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<v S2>a powerful thing. I've had people since Dave Churchill. It

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<v S2>was beautiful. It's an awesome thing. But here's what I

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<v S2>want you to know. And here's what I want you

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<v S2>to testify to. Some of you have a person in

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<v S2>mind that didn't just do the work of proclamation. They

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<v S2>did the work of compassion. They did the work of empathy.

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<v S2>They looked in your eyes and said, I love you.

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<v S2>I know that below the surface is some stuff that

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<v S2>isn't pretty. And I'm here for you. I want you

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<v S2>to call in and testify to those people this morning.

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<v S2>You don't have to give gory details, but you can

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<v S2>give some. But anyone that's truly been transformed by God

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<v S2>and is growing up in him. Probably had someone who

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<v S2>became a Y in the road in their life when

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<v S2>they were at a crisis, and they loved him and

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<v S2>they spoke words of life over him. Give me a

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<v S2>call right now. Share your story. 805 55 7898. Come

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<v S2>on in. 805 55, 78, 98. One of the great

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<v S2>missing tools of transformation is to be armed with empathy

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<v S2>and compassion. And it's powerful. Come on. Light them up.

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<v S2>800 555. 7898. You're overjoyed in the salvation that you

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<v S2>have in Jesus Christ. And you can look back and

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<v S2>you can see people who did more than just gospel proclamation.

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<v S2>It was gospel empathy. It was gospel compassion proclamations. Awesome compassion.

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<v S2>That's where breakthrough comes. Jesus got down in it with

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<v S2>the people. He didn't stand off Standoff from afar. He

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<v S2>got down in it with the people. Give us a

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<v S2>call right now. 805, 55, 78, 98. Just need 1

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<v S2>or 2 of you in here. 805, 55. 78. 98.

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<v S2>If the Spirit of God has a lump in your throat,

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<v S2>he's probably ringing the dinner bell for you. So give

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<v S2>me a call. 800 555 7898.

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<v S1>She's a choreographer extraordinaire, and everything is Greek to her.

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<v S1>Super di is in the crew. It's Carl and crew

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<v S1>on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>Who's that person in your life who had proclamation which

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<v S2>amused amusing some iteration here, but I'm using the words

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<v S2>that Jesus has here in Matthew nine. He proclaimed the

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<v S2>gospel of the kingdom, but he also had compassion for

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<v S2>them because they were harassed and helpless. It was both

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<v S2>proclamation and compassion. And when they come together, wow, you

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<v S2>got a lethal combination. I it's beautiful, uh, green driving

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<v S2>here in Chicago. What do you say, green?

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<v S5>Carl. My dad. Oh, my dad is consistency. Love of God.

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<v S5>You know, living in people don't know how important it

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<v S5>is to live in front of your children. And we did.

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<v S5>I left high school seeking everything every other teenage college

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<v S5>kid seek. But it's constant love and persistence and dedication

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<v S5>to God. Just when I when I got to that

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<v S5>point and the Lord, you know, did that call, it

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<v S5>was so easy to transition because his consistency made it

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<v S5>evident that God was real in him. And I wanted

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<v S5>him real in me. And now I have sons that

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<v S5>are in the same thing. So my dad's passion, love,

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<v S5>dedication to God seven days a week was the the

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<v S5>the the TNT in my life.

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<v S2>Boom. Green up. I I'd bet my bottom buck. Your

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<v S2>dad did not get weak in the knees about speaking

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<v S2>truth to you, right? He spoke truth.

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<v S5>No, not not only did he speak truth, but he

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<v S5>ministered truth as well. Yes. He tell you to do

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<v S5>with your children.

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<v S2>Yeah. And he and he had compassion galore. That's. You

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<v S2>had a lethal combination of good dad. Good man. That's

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<v S2>a good dad. Green.

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<v S5>The love was so consistent. He did World War two

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<v S5>in Corpus Christi, Texas, in the Navy. He worked at

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<v S5>the steel mill for 30 years to feed eight children.

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<v S5>But he never wavered in his commitment. I don't care

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<v S5>how bad things got. He was there and the light

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<v S5>was on, and you had to be. You had to

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<v S5>be taken out of this world not to recognize it.

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<v S2>Ah, green, I love your dad. Never met him. Love

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<v S2>that man. Thank you for calling in. See? Proclamation. Compassion.

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<v S2>You put those two together. Look out! Jesse Pierre, South Dakota.

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<v S2>First time caller. What do you say, Jesse?

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<v S6>Well, it's my foster father. That's who led me to Jesus. And, um,

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<v S6>you know, such an inspiration. I always said, if anybody is,

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<v S6>I could compare to anybody on this earth. To Jesus,

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<v S6>that would be him. Foster dad. He didn't. I mean,

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<v S6>he was such a wonderful man. Strong Christian family. I mean,

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<v S6>I was in foster care for almost 16 years. But

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<v S6>then towards the last 12 years, I met this family

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<v S6>and it just changed my life.

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<v S4>Oh, Jesse.

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<v S6>I'm so grateful that, you know, he planted that seed.

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<v S6>And this person that was lost absolutely lost because my

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<v S6>parents threw me alongside the road and said, I don't

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<v S6>want you no more. I remember that day. And the

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<v S6>thing is, is that yes, I was three years old

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<v S6>at the time, and and we were bounced here and

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<v S6>there in foster care.

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<v S4>And I just.

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<v S6>Totally lost trust in people. I was scared of men.

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<v S6>I was scared of everything. And then when I met

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<v S6>my dad, it was like, you know, it took me

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<v S6>about a year and a half to two years to

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<v S6>trust him. But once I did, boy, that was it.

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<v S6>I love my dad, but he left me about three

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<v S6>years ago. He died of cancer. But, you know, that's

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<v S6>that's my inspiration right there. That's what you know. That's,

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<v S6>you know, God's love was seen through him.

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<v S2>Yeah. Jesse, that's one of the most powerful stories I've

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<v S2>ever heard. Hear you remember when your parents cast you

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<v S2>aside at three years of age? You remember that, Jesse?

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<v S6>Yes, I do. It was cold out. It was dark. And.

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<v S6>And it was like I, my twin brother, and and

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<v S6>I remember her words. She said, I don't want you.

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<v S6>And she threw us out on the side of the road.

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<v S6>And I was like, wow.

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<v S2>My goodness.

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<v S6>Jessie. And then we were in and out of foster care.

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<v S6>And then I met my dad, and he's a Navy man,

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<v S6>and he, you know, and I'm Native American, and he,

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<v S6>you know, he didn't see my color either. He said,

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<v S6>you're my daughter. You're my daughter.

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<v S2>Jessie.

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<v S6>Thank you.

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<v S2>I don't even have words for this guy. What a

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<v S2>man of God, huh? Jessie.

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<v S6>Beautiful. He's a wonderful man. Wonderful man. Kind, caring. I mean,

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<v S6>you saw that, though. Every characteristic that what I'm reading

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<v S6>in the Bible. But Jesus, he had it. He had.

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<v S7>It. Oh my goodness.

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<v S2>Yeah. Thank the Lord for him. Oh, I'm going to

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<v S2>do that with you. God, I'm with Jesse. I thank

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<v S2>the Lord for her daddy. And what an amazing thing.

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<v S2>And I think, Lord, for me, the fruit of Jesse's

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<v S2>adopted dad, foster dad, whatever he role, whatever title he had, he.

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<v S2>His impact is very evident to me. As seen in

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<v S2>Jesse's life. There's no way a girl can look back

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<v S2>at three and speak like she does without having a

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<v S2>dad like her that pointed her to a father like you.

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<v S2>And God. We give you thanks for that man and Lord,

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<v S2>I can't wait to meet Jesse's dad in heaven. In

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<v S2>Jesus name. Let it be, man. I can't wait to

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<v S2>meet your dad, Jesse.

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<v S6>I mean, he is there. He is there. Praise God.

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<v S2>Oh, my goodness, that was. That is powerful, Jesse. I

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<v S2>don't even have words for that.

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<v S1>You can take him out of Alaska, but you can't

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<v S1>take Alaska out of him. Carl is in the crew.

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<v S1>It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

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<v S2>I want to share with you my heart here for

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<v S2>just a moment this morning. I want you to hear

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<v S2>my heart more than my words. There are many of

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<v S2>you that got up this morning. Maybe you tuned in

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<v S2>to this radio station. You don't even know how you

0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:51.480
<v S2>got here. But you're here. And I think God brought

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<v S2>you here for a reason. And if there's one of

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<v S2>you that this reason is important for, that's reason enough.

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<v S2>Our God loves you so much. And there comes a

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<v S2>time in your life when God will allow you to

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<v S2>go through a level of pain that you need someone

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<v S2>to reach out with compassion and tell you, I see it,

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<v S2>and I don't know your situation this morning, but I

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<v S2>know this. I've been on my face, the inside of

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<v S2>my heart, in turmoil, needing someone to reach out with

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<v S2>compassion to me and tell me where to find life.

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<v S2>I'm so grateful to God that I had a couple

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<v S2>of people in my life who didn't reach out with

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<v S2>condemnation or platitudes, but they reached into my heart and

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<v S2>they spoke deeply. One was my own dad, who saw,

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<v S2>although I was raised in church, was so far from God,

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<v S2>and he reached out with love, put his arm around

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<v S2>me with tears streaming down his face, and he said,

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<v S2>we're praying today. Speaking of his, my mom and him said,

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<v S2>we're praying today that either your life has totally turned

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<v S2>over to the leadership and the Lordship of Jesus Christ,

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<v S2>and you give everything that you are to Jesus, or

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<v S2>that God would take you out of this world because

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<v S2>you're killing yourself anyway. Carl. The backstory behind this is,

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<v S2>although I was a pretty good kid growing up, lined

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<v S2>up my Matchbox cars, I had this hole in my

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<v S2>heart and I tried to fill it with everything possible

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<v S2>from an 1100 mile dog sled race across Alaska to

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<v S2>working in the oil fields, making good money to get

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<v S2>in a raging cocaine habit. There wasn't enough cocaine in

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<v S2>Alaska to fill the void in my heart, but Jesus did.

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<v S2>And I want to speak to you this morning. You've

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<v S2>believed in Jesus, but the belief is not transformative. It's

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<v S2>an intellectual belief, but it's not a soul surrendered belief.

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<v S2>I want you to give your life to Jesus today.

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<v S2>I have felt the pain that you've felt in the past.

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<v S2>It's real as real can be. And you know what's

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<v S2>going on in your life. Jesus looked at people like

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<v S2>you and he said, you need a shepherd right now.

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<v S2>You're being ranched you're being ranched by all the different

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<v S2>worldviews that are out there. You're being ranched by family

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<v S2>of origin issues. You're being ranched by your own addictions,

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<v S2>but no one's put his arm around you to say,

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<v S2>walk this way. But Jesus is this morning by the

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<v S2>power of the Holy Spirit, saying, today's the day to

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<v S2>surrender all that you are to Jesus Christ today. Take

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<v S2>it from an old cocaine addict. Take it from an

0:24:49.830 --> 0:24:54.470
<v S2>old partier. God can take the deepest pain in your

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<v S2>life and transform you completely. And he wants to do

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<v S2>that today. You might be asking how you know when

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<v S2>you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord. That's

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<v S2>deep man, because it's more than just saying like the

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<v S2>demons believe and they tremble. No, it's saying, I believe

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<v S2>that Jesus Christ is more than just a good man

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<v S2>or the Savior of the world. He's my savior today.

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<v S2>It's an it's an awesome thing when you've been brought

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<v S2>so low that you have nothing but to cling to Jesus.

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<v S2>That's that's God's grace. He got you there this morning.

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<v S2>And take it from a guy who was raised in

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<v S2>church and walked aisles and was in a youth ministry

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<v S2>and did all kinds of spiritual stuff that can't save you, friend.

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<v S2>Only Jesus, through full surrender to his lordship, can save

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<v S2>your life, but he can save you thoroughly today. And

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<v S2>I have compassion for you. I can only imagine the

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<v S2>pain that you have in your life. But this is

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<v S2>what I know. Although I can only imagine the pain

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<v S2>in your life, I know the one who can shepherd

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<v S2>your soul into streams of living water. He can satisfy

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<v S2>a thirst that you've had and quench it like you

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<v S2>can't believe. But you must turn around and surrender your

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<v S2>life to Jesus today and believe that he's been raised

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<v S2>from the dead. Make Jesus Lord for the first time

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<v S2>in your life. Don't let the delusion of church attendance

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<v S2>and spiritual activity think that that can save you. It

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<v S2>will not save you. You're on a highway to hell. Friend.

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<v S2>But Jesus can turn you around today. And he is,

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<v S2>isn't he? I want you to pray with me. It's

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<v S2>a prayer of faith. And just tell him this. I'm

0:26:46.780 --> 0:26:55.020
<v S2>hurting God. Thank you for the compassion that I feel. God,

0:26:55.060 --> 0:26:59.980
<v S2>today I need a shepherd. I'm tired of being ranched.

0:27:01.500 --> 0:27:06.260
<v S2>Today I surrender everything that I am to Jesus Christ. Everything.

0:27:09.100 --> 0:27:13.020
<v S2>Today I say you are my savior. I give you

0:27:13.020 --> 0:27:17.100
<v S2>my whole life. Thank you for dying for my sins.

0:27:17.820 --> 0:27:21.820
<v S2>Thank you for saving my soul. Right now, this is

0:27:21.820 --> 0:27:23.500
<v S2>going to sound strange, but I want you to do

0:27:23.500 --> 0:27:27.580
<v S2>this right now. Tell him thank you for the pain

0:27:27.859 --> 0:27:31.859
<v S2>that brought me to the point of calling out to

0:27:31.900 --> 0:27:38.220
<v S2>the good Shepherd, Jesus Christ. Tell him that. And if

0:27:38.220 --> 0:27:41.899
<v S2>today is a day friend that you know that you've

0:27:41.900 --> 0:27:45.459
<v S2>come to the end of yourself, get this. Blessed are

0:27:45.460 --> 0:27:48.180
<v S2>the poor in spirit. Theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Wow!

0:27:48.660 --> 0:27:54.740
<v S2>Spiritual bankruptcy is met with kingdom life. No price for admission.

0:27:54.740 --> 0:27:58.140
<v S2>It was paid for you by Jesus Christ. And if

0:27:58.140 --> 0:28:00.100
<v S2>that's you and God's doing a work in you and

0:28:00.100 --> 0:28:03.540
<v S2>you're driving right now, praise God you're walking right now.

0:28:03.540 --> 0:28:05.660
<v S2>Praise God you're in an office. You're at home. You're

0:28:05.660 --> 0:28:07.940
<v S2>in a kitchen. Wherever you are, I want you to

0:28:07.940 --> 0:28:10.300
<v S2>get to. If you're driving side of the road, get

0:28:10.300 --> 0:28:13.580
<v S2>to a safe place, and I want all of you

0:28:13.580 --> 0:28:16.970
<v S2>that are surrendering your life to Jesus today. And you are.

0:28:17.010 --> 0:28:21.090
<v S2>You are feeling the compassion and the calling of Jesus

0:28:21.090 --> 0:28:25.010
<v S2>to surrender your life fully to Christ today. Just text

0:28:25.010 --> 0:28:27.010
<v S2>the word new and we're going to help you with

0:28:27.010 --> 0:28:30.090
<v S2>some with a resource that's going to tell you what

0:28:30.130 --> 0:28:33.090
<v S2>to do in these first steps with Jesus. Just text

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<v S2>the word new right now. Got your phone text new

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<v S2>to 800 555 7898. Man. God knew that you'd be here.

0:28:42.850 --> 0:28:44.810
<v S2>The Spirit of God knew that. He'd prompt me at

0:28:44.810 --> 0:28:48.570
<v S2>this very moment in this hour, to let you know

0:28:48.570 --> 0:28:52.170
<v S2>about the greatest lover of your soul, the one filled

0:28:52.170 --> 0:28:55.370
<v S2>with compassion who loves you. And I'm asking you right

0:28:55.370 --> 0:28:59.810
<v S2>now to respond to him. Don't delay. And we're going

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<v S2>to help you text the word new right now to

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<v S2>800 555 78, 98. Just one word. I'll say it slowly.

0:29:07.690 --> 0:29:15.850
<v S2>Here's the number text new to 805 Five, 55, 78, 98.

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<v S2>God knew you'd be here. God knew you needed him.

0:29:22.690 --> 0:29:25.410
<v S2>And God can make all things new. And he's doing

0:29:25.410 --> 0:29:28.410
<v S2>it today. Coming up here in a moment, I'll shout

0:29:28.410 --> 0:29:30.410
<v S2>out the last four numbers of all of you that

0:29:30.410 --> 0:29:33.690
<v S2>are responding to Jesus today. Just text the word new

0:29:34.130 --> 0:29:36.730
<v S2>and we'll help you in your first steps of surrender

0:29:36.730 --> 0:29:43.410
<v S2>to Jesus Christ to 800 555 7898. Just that one

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<v S2>word new to 800 555 7898. And man, I'm talking soft,

0:29:50.010 --> 0:29:51.610
<v S2>but I'm rejoicing in my heart.

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<v S1>A basketball mom who's mastered the dad joke. Ali is

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<v S1>in the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

0:30:00.450 --> 0:30:04.210
<v S2>It's Carl and crew. It's Wednesday morning, bottom of the hour, but. Oh, no.

0:30:04.210 --> 0:30:06.170
<v S2>We're going to break some hearts this morning.

0:30:06.210 --> 0:30:06.730
<v S4>We are.

0:30:07.290 --> 0:30:10.210
<v S2>Boy, we're going to break some hearts. This is tough.

0:30:10.210 --> 0:30:12.250
<v S2>I want to be able to tell you this though.

0:30:12.290 --> 0:30:16.810
<v S2>Ali has gone to a mission field that cannot be disclosed.

0:30:17.490 --> 0:30:19.530
<v S2>So we're going to have to leave some mystery in that.

0:30:19.530 --> 0:30:21.730
<v S2>But she is headed off to a mission field that

0:30:21.730 --> 0:30:24.810
<v S2>cannot be disclosed. It's one of those kind of fields

0:30:24.810 --> 0:30:28.610
<v S2>of ministry. But how cool that our sister is rolling

0:30:28.610 --> 0:30:30.330
<v S2>up her sleeves doing something like that.

0:30:30.370 --> 0:30:33.770
<v S4>That's awesome. Yeah. So excited in my prayers, that is

0:30:33.770 --> 0:30:36.090
<v S4>for sure. I can't wait to hear her stories when

0:30:36.090 --> 0:30:36.730
<v S4>she comes back.

0:30:36.810 --> 0:30:39.610
<v S2>It's going to be tremendous. And please be praying for

0:30:39.610 --> 0:30:41.570
<v S2>Ali as she's away and give us some grace on

0:30:41.570 --> 0:30:43.810
<v S2>the jokes. I was thinking about doing them and then

0:30:43.850 --> 0:30:46.890
<v S2>the Holy Spirit told me, no, you're not going to

0:30:46.930 --> 0:30:49.970
<v S2>try dad jokes for Ali. That isn't going to work. No.

0:30:50.530 --> 0:30:53.490
<v S2>They've got Doctor Jim Coakley here with us today, and

0:30:53.490 --> 0:30:55.690
<v S2>we are going to really mix it up. Here's what

0:30:55.690 --> 0:30:57.570
<v S2>I want to spike here before I bring in Jim.

0:30:57.570 --> 0:31:00.130
<v S2>This is very important. And I want you to hear

0:31:00.170 --> 0:31:01.890
<v S2>me boom crew. And I want you to hear me

0:31:01.890 --> 0:31:05.850
<v S2>loud and clear. Oftentimes when we think of the work

0:31:05.850 --> 0:31:09.170
<v S2>of the ministry, it's what Super and Young Thunder just

0:31:09.170 --> 0:31:10.800
<v S2>said at the top of the hour. Come on, let's

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:12.600
<v S2>go through them. Work of ministry. What is it, guys?

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.360
<v S2>Come on. Normal conventional wisdom. Work of ministry.

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<v S4>Pastors.

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<v S3>Missionaries.

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<v S4>Yeah.

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<v S3>Uh, you got evangelists? Yeah. Your regular volunteers at the

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:24.840
<v S3>church who are who are at the Welcome Center, that

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:25.480
<v S3>kind of thing.

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:31.240
<v S2>Yeah, yeah. And those are all great. I mean, my goodness. Evangelists, teachers.

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<v S4>Thank you. Yes.

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<v S2>Yeah. We got to have that. We've got to have servants.

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:36.960
<v S2>We've got people that are rolling up their sleeves and

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.560
<v S2>caring for little kids. But therein lies now we're getting

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:43.000
<v S2>into the word a little bit more. See, to have

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:48.240
<v S2>proclamation without compassion was never the intent of God. As

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<v S2>a matter of fact, proclamation without compassion. What is it?

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:56.600
<v S2>It's cold Orthodoxy. It's cold. And if you look into

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.760
<v S2>your own life, you've all got the Dave Churchill's in

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:03.360
<v S2>your life. People that loved you enough to say, look,

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.520
<v S2>I know you got alcohol on your breath, Carl. That's

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:09.160
<v S2>Dave Churchill's story for me. I know you're up here

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:12.680
<v S2>partying in the north Slope of Alaska, 300 miles north

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.960
<v S2>of the Arctic Circle, working hard, earning a lot of money.

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:20.320
<v S2>But deep inside your soul, you're empty. And I'm here

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:23.520
<v S2>for you. That's what Dave Churchill was saying to me.

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:27.360
<v S2>And boy, did he read my mail. Everything inside of

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:29.600
<v S2>me wanted to talk to Dave and go. Dave, let

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:31.760
<v S2>me tell you more here, man. But I was too

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.200
<v S2>proud to do it right there. Got my buddies. One

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:39.080
<v S2>of them's holding my beer. So the question is, how

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:41.400
<v S2>do we get into the Word of God and begin

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:45.000
<v S2>to see things? I'm kind of interested. What's one of

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<v S2>the 14 fresh ways that I looked at this passage

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:51.680
<v S2>right here, and got beyond the proclamation and see the compassion? Well,

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:56.040
<v S2>context is very important, and just reading around a central

0:32:56.040 --> 0:33:00.000
<v S2>passage of Scripture is key. But there are 14 fresh

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.880
<v S2>ways to enjoy the Bible, and it is a book,

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.760
<v S2>and it's such a great book. We had callers yesterday

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.270
<v S2>that said it just changed their life. A guy named

0:33:08.270 --> 0:33:11.229
<v S2>Garth called me yesterday and said, change. Change the way

0:33:11.230 --> 0:33:13.790
<v S2>I read the Bible. And I think the biggest testimonial

0:33:13.790 --> 0:33:16.710
<v S2>for this book is my own bride who says, Bob,

0:33:16.750 --> 0:33:21.190
<v S2>this book single handedly has changed my Bible reading into

0:33:21.190 --> 0:33:24.350
<v S2>a more robust understanding like no other book that I've read.

0:33:25.310 --> 0:33:28.430
<v S2>So talk about tools to transform. And the author of this,

0:33:28.430 --> 0:33:30.830
<v S2>Jim Coakley is in studio, and we're going to talk

0:33:30.830 --> 0:33:33.350
<v S2>with him in just a moment. Great man of God,

0:33:33.350 --> 0:33:37.350
<v S2>dear friend, colleague here at Moody, but also one of

0:33:37.350 --> 0:33:39.430
<v S2>our elders at 180 Chicago. So I get to see

0:33:39.470 --> 0:33:42.190
<v S2>up close and personal a heart of compassion in this guy.

0:33:42.190 --> 0:33:45.270
<v S2>And it's a beautiful thing. Hang on. Jim Coakley coming

0:33:45.270 --> 0:33:47.030
<v S2>up straight ahead.

0:33:47.470 --> 0:33:50.270
<v S1>It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

0:33:50.670 --> 0:33:53.110
<v S2>The heart of the Savior is amazing. You see him

0:33:53.110 --> 0:33:57.790
<v S2>weeping over Jerusalem. And in this narrative of Matthew chapter nine,

0:33:57.790 --> 0:34:00.110
<v S2>you see these words and these are often quoted. The

0:34:00.110 --> 0:34:02.950
<v S2>harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. Therefore pray

0:34:02.990 --> 0:34:05.430
<v S2>earnestly for the Lord of the harvest to send out

0:34:05.470 --> 0:34:09.630
<v S2>laborers into his harvest. Doctor Jim Coakley with us right now,

0:34:09.830 --> 0:34:12.149
<v S2>author of a tremendous book, and we're going to break

0:34:12.150 --> 0:34:15.310
<v S2>that down. But I want to jump right into this narrative, Jim.

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<v S2>It's an interesting thing. We can get a cultural default

0:34:19.590 --> 0:34:23.910
<v S2>that says proclamation, teaching of the word. That's the essence

0:34:23.910 --> 0:34:26.910
<v S2>of workers or using your gift in some way, shape

0:34:26.910 --> 0:34:31.470
<v S2>or form. But there is both proclamation and compassion here

0:34:31.469 --> 0:34:34.830
<v S2>that is absolutely beautiful. And we've got to catch that,

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<v S2>don't we, Jim?

0:34:35.510 --> 0:34:37.790
<v S8>Oh, we sure do. And that's the the beauty of

0:34:37.790 --> 0:34:39.750
<v S8>what I think I see in this passage right from

0:34:39.750 --> 0:34:43.189
<v S8>the start. Oftentimes we think that, hey, the reason I

0:34:43.230 --> 0:34:45.790
<v S8>before I can even minister, before I become a missionary,

0:34:45.790 --> 0:34:48.670
<v S8>before I become a pastor, I need to work up compassion.

0:34:48.670 --> 0:34:50.910
<v S8>But if you look at what the text says, look

0:34:50.950 --> 0:34:53.390
<v S8>at what it begins with. It says Jesus went through

0:34:53.390 --> 0:34:56.670
<v S8>all the towns and villages teaching in their synagogues. So

0:34:56.670 --> 0:34:59.670
<v S8>it wasn't like he needed to muster up compassion before

0:34:59.670 --> 0:35:02.549
<v S8>he went into ministry. He was doing ministry. And while

0:35:02.550 --> 0:35:06.310
<v S8>he's doing ministry, that compassion developed. And so this is

0:35:06.310 --> 0:35:09.270
<v S8>where it's a combination that you can't separate the two.

0:35:09.310 --> 0:35:13.150
<v S8>They're dovetailed together. Is that as you're going out doing

0:35:13.150 --> 0:35:16.750
<v S8>the Lord's work, you develop compassion and then you want

0:35:16.750 --> 0:35:19.310
<v S8>to do more of the Lord's work. And so this

0:35:19.310 --> 0:35:22.790
<v S8>is really, I think that idea of proclamation and compassion

0:35:22.790 --> 0:35:27.470
<v S8>together is really so embedded, so intertwined here in Matthew

0:35:27.469 --> 0:35:28.270
<v S8>chapter nine.

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<v S2>I don't know that we have, because the goal of

0:35:31.989 --> 0:35:36.629
<v S2>real work is that it's transformative to our listeners and

0:35:36.630 --> 0:35:38.910
<v S2>to those that we're reaching out to and touching. Jim,

0:35:38.910 --> 0:35:41.390
<v S2>you must have had that early on before you were

0:35:41.390 --> 0:35:43.630
<v S2>born again, if you haven't seen a picture of it.

0:35:43.870 --> 0:35:48.270
<v S2>Jim Coakley, he was bandana man, long hair and, uh,

0:35:48.430 --> 0:35:51.149
<v S2>far from God, Jim. But somebody must have reached into

0:35:51.150 --> 0:35:53.270
<v S2>your heart more than just with the gospel, but with

0:35:53.270 --> 0:35:54.870
<v S2>the heart of love and compassion.

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<v S8>Yeah. I mean, I think there's several people that I

0:35:57.390 --> 0:36:00.150
<v S8>think were were part of that. One of them is

0:36:00.270 --> 0:36:04.100
<v S8>my beloved wife, Gail. When I think about what I

0:36:04.100 --> 0:36:06.740
<v S8>look like in high school and the. The long haired

0:36:06.739 --> 0:36:10.020
<v S8>hippie type with the bandana around my head and the

0:36:10.020 --> 0:36:13.420
<v S8>fact that she didn't shun me, and the idea of

0:36:13.420 --> 0:36:16.180
<v S8>even her parents when I was first starting to go

0:36:16.180 --> 0:36:16.700
<v S8>to church.

0:36:16.739 --> 0:36:18.100
<v S2>That's bigger. Yeah, yeah.

0:36:18.140 --> 0:36:20.899
<v S8>That was a bigger. And I'm thinking now, based on

0:36:20.900 --> 0:36:24.300
<v S8>what I would have thought of myself with anybody wanting

0:36:24.340 --> 0:36:26.580
<v S8>to date my daughter, now she's married. So I think

0:36:26.620 --> 0:36:28.900
<v S8>we have to worry about those kind of things. But

0:36:28.900 --> 0:36:31.940
<v S8>the idea is, you know, that I was not shunned.

0:36:31.980 --> 0:36:35.500
<v S8>Even though I looked different. I didn't look like I

0:36:35.500 --> 0:36:38.660
<v S8>was a Christian. If there was a prototype, that could

0:36:38.660 --> 0:36:41.980
<v S8>be that I was not it. And so the idea

0:36:41.980 --> 0:36:45.300
<v S8>that they allowed me space to be able to process

0:36:45.739 --> 0:36:48.979
<v S8>the claims of the gospel in a way that gave

0:36:48.980 --> 0:36:52.460
<v S8>me freedom to kind of work through that was, I think,

0:36:52.460 --> 0:36:54.859
<v S8>really the catalyst that it could have really set me

0:36:54.860 --> 0:36:58.340
<v S8>off in a totally different trajectory if they had rejected me.

0:36:58.620 --> 0:37:02.300
<v S2>What's one of the ways waves in 14 ways when

0:37:02.300 --> 0:37:05.380
<v S2>it comes to studying the Bible and looking at the Bible,

0:37:05.380 --> 0:37:09.260
<v S2>what way have we utilized today that allows us to

0:37:09.300 --> 0:37:13.620
<v S2>see the full embodiment of workers or laborers for the

0:37:13.620 --> 0:37:17.100
<v S2>harvest field, as both proclamation and compassion? What are we

0:37:17.140 --> 0:37:19.220
<v S2>doing there that you would cheer for?

0:37:19.620 --> 0:37:22.140
<v S8>Well, I think, you know, first of all, I see repetition.

0:37:22.140 --> 0:37:24.300
<v S8>If you look at that last verse, it says harvest

0:37:24.300 --> 0:37:27.700
<v S8>three times. So whenever something is repeated multiple times, you

0:37:27.700 --> 0:37:30.859
<v S8>always want to pay attention to that, because it could

0:37:30.900 --> 0:37:34.780
<v S8>have easily been summarized just once rather than repeatedly. So

0:37:34.820 --> 0:37:38.180
<v S8>clearly we see this heart of compassion being determined as

0:37:38.180 --> 0:37:40.900
<v S8>he's looking out at the harvest. They're ready for again

0:37:40.900 --> 0:37:44.739
<v S8>the workers to harvest the crop, as it were. And

0:37:44.739 --> 0:37:49.660
<v S8>so that repetition of harvest really sets the geographical background

0:37:49.739 --> 0:37:54.300
<v S8>for what really sets up this proclamation compassion combination.

0:37:54.460 --> 0:37:57.460
<v S2>That's beautiful coming up here. Straight ahead. More with Doctor

0:37:57.460 --> 0:38:01.300
<v S2>Jim Coakley 14 Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible. My

0:38:01.300 --> 0:38:07.540
<v S2>own bride says this book has single handedly transformed her

0:38:07.540 --> 0:38:10.739
<v S2>reading of the scriptures in ways she couldn't have imagined.

0:38:10.980 --> 0:38:12.540
<v S2>What's in it? Hang on.

0:38:13.140 --> 0:38:16.060
<v S1>You're listening to Curl and Crew on Moody Radio.

0:38:16.580 --> 0:38:21.340
<v S2>Transformational tools. Tools that God gives us. Ultimately, the Word

0:38:21.340 --> 0:38:25.660
<v S2>of God is the ultimate tool. It's the this is

0:38:25.660 --> 0:38:31.340
<v S2>the bread of life. And from these words we find transformation.

0:38:31.340 --> 0:38:33.939
<v S2>But tools can help us understand when we dig into

0:38:33.940 --> 0:38:37.260
<v S2>it what we're looking for. Doctor Jim Coakley, my guest

0:38:37.300 --> 0:38:40.940
<v S2>right now, dear friend, incredible author of the book 14

0:38:40.980 --> 0:38:44.219
<v S2>Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible. What motivated you, Jim,

0:38:44.219 --> 0:38:45.580
<v S2>to get this book written?

0:38:45.739 --> 0:38:48.060
<v S8>Well, I think it was my own Bible reading. I mean,

0:38:48.100 --> 0:38:50.540
<v S8>I had gone to Bible college, I'd gone to seminary,

0:38:50.580 --> 0:38:53.780
<v S8>did doctoral work, but I still felt like I wasn't

0:38:53.780 --> 0:38:58.089
<v S8>really getting into the word like I wanted to. Of course,

0:38:58.090 --> 0:39:00.250
<v S8>I was getting the information. I could do all sorts

0:39:00.250 --> 0:39:03.410
<v S8>of Bible trivia. I had Bible memory verses, but there

0:39:03.410 --> 0:39:06.529
<v S8>was just something about that I wasn't seeing what I

0:39:06.570 --> 0:39:10.090
<v S8>thought the author was trying to get me to focus on.

0:39:10.290 --> 0:39:12.850
<v S8>And so I was hearing lots of information, but I

0:39:12.850 --> 0:39:15.090
<v S8>was more concerned. How can I get to the heartbeat

0:39:15.130 --> 0:39:17.930
<v S8>of what the biblical authors, both human and divine, are

0:39:17.930 --> 0:39:20.290
<v S8>trying to say to me? And that's when I began

0:39:20.290 --> 0:39:22.970
<v S8>to kind of say, well, what kind of techniques do

0:39:22.969 --> 0:39:27.490
<v S8>all good communicators use to convey what they're really interested

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<v S8>in talking about.

0:39:28.410 --> 0:39:29.650
<v S2>Whether speaking or writing.

0:39:29.650 --> 0:39:31.850
<v S8>Whether speaking or writing. And so all of a sudden,

0:39:31.850 --> 0:39:35.009
<v S8>I found that there's these little tricks and tips and

0:39:35.010 --> 0:39:38.890
<v S8>techniques that all good communicators use. And so it all

0:39:38.890 --> 0:39:43.050
<v S8>started with the concept of looking at when a Bible

0:39:43.050 --> 0:39:47.450
<v S8>character is introduced, look at their first words, their first actions,

0:39:47.450 --> 0:39:51.529
<v S8>and any physical descriptor, because that's what we call indirect characterization. Now,

0:39:51.530 --> 0:39:55.650
<v S8>I've never been literarily trained, but I just realized that

0:39:55.650 --> 0:39:58.170
<v S8>I'm a consumer, just like everyone else is in our

0:39:58.170 --> 0:40:02.050
<v S8>audience of good film, good literature, and to realize that

0:40:02.050 --> 0:40:06.450
<v S8>all good communicators use this technique because they can't spill

0:40:06.450 --> 0:40:09.530
<v S8>out everything about a character. So they have to show

0:40:09.530 --> 0:40:10.970
<v S8>us rather than tell us.

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<v S2>Make that technique super simple. What's it mean?

0:40:13.489 --> 0:40:17.130
<v S8>What's that mean is, when an author is introducing a character,

0:40:17.170 --> 0:40:19.690
<v S8>they are going to be selective in what they want

0:40:19.690 --> 0:40:22.489
<v S8>the reader or the viewer to watch. And that's going

0:40:22.489 --> 0:40:26.049
<v S8>to be a very important kind of character trait that's

0:40:26.050 --> 0:40:28.570
<v S8>going to follow that individual the rest of the way.

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<v S2>So repetition.

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<v S8>Repetition, but also it's the notion of first words again, speech.

0:40:35.410 --> 0:40:38.690
<v S8>What is it that we first see this character saying, uh,

0:40:38.690 --> 0:40:42.969
<v S8>also too, along with what labels, what character labels are given,

0:40:42.969 --> 0:40:44.930
<v S8>how do we see them? Do we see them as

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<v S8>an occupation? Do we see them in familiar language? Do

0:40:48.090 --> 0:40:51.450
<v S8>we see them as an ethnic label? And all of

0:40:51.450 --> 0:40:54.210
<v S8>a sudden I'm paying attention to the the ways that

0:40:54.210 --> 0:40:59.130
<v S8>authors can communicate about a character without necessarily. In a sense,

0:40:59.130 --> 0:41:03.090
<v S8>telegraphing it. But we get to experience it. I'm getting

0:41:03.090 --> 0:41:06.730
<v S8>ready for speaking next week at Maranatha Camp for Moody. Week.

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<v S8>And this is the 50th anniversary of the movie jaws. Okay, so.

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<v S2>Oh, boy.

0:41:12.210 --> 0:41:12.410
<v S8>How.

0:41:12.410 --> 0:41:13.650
<v S2>And I'm getting old.

0:41:13.690 --> 0:41:16.810
<v S8>Yeah, I know, I'm getting old too. But one of

0:41:16.810 --> 0:41:21.009
<v S8>the main characters is a guy by the name of Quint. Okay. Okay.

0:41:21.050 --> 0:41:23.410
<v S8>And so I'm looking at the movie. How was he

0:41:23.410 --> 0:41:26.410
<v S8>first introduced? Because he's going to be a main character.

0:41:26.410 --> 0:41:28.890
<v S8>He's the one who helps to hunt down the shark

0:41:28.890 --> 0:41:31.969
<v S8>and everything else. But the first scene we see him doing,

0:41:32.210 --> 0:41:35.890
<v S8>the town is all gathered together, and they're all squabbling about,

0:41:35.930 --> 0:41:38.450
<v S8>you know, they shut down the beach because the shark attack.

0:41:38.570 --> 0:41:40.850
<v S8>And you see this guy sitting on a chair, and

0:41:40.850 --> 0:41:45.290
<v S8>he scratches the chalkboard in a classroom with his fingernails.

0:41:45.570 --> 0:41:48.930
<v S8>So again, how irritating is that? The first thing we

0:41:48.930 --> 0:41:52.399
<v S8>see this guy doing is scratching a chalkboard. And he

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.759
<v S8>also speaks very uncouth. And so what that's telling us

0:41:55.760 --> 0:42:00.280
<v S8>is that this guy is nonconformist. He's a little bit cantankerous.

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:03.759
<v S8>He's an irritant, but he's the guy that's going to

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.480
<v S8>be used to, in a sense, hunt down this, you know,

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:10.480
<v S8>great white shark. And so it's showing us without telling

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:12.440
<v S8>us that that's what his character is going to be

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.200
<v S8>like the rest of the way. And sure enough, as

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:16.799
<v S8>you watch the rest of the film, he portrays that

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:19.400
<v S8>character out very well in every scene.

0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:21.480
<v S2>Okay, so let's camp out here. Give me an example

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.880
<v S2>of that in Scripture. Opening scene. How it sets the tone.

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:28.040
<v S8>Yeah. You think of Moses. Okay. The first thing we

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:31.080
<v S8>see him doing is as an adult, because of course,

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:34.319
<v S8>we we know he's growing up in Pharaoh's court. But

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:38.000
<v S8>the first action that we see Moses doing is when

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:41.880
<v S8>he sees a, you know, Hebrew or a pharaoh hitting

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:47.040
<v S8>an Egyptian slave, I mean, a an Egyptian taskmaster. And

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.680
<v S8>so looking this way and that, so we see fear.

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:53.279
<v S8>He hits and kills the Egyptian and hides him in

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:56.600
<v S8>the sand. So we see, first of all, that he's

0:42:56.600 --> 0:43:00.000
<v S8>a man of compassion. We talked about compassion earlier. Uh,

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:02.680
<v S8>here we see a character trait of Moses. The first

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:05.319
<v S8>thing we see him doing is he has compassion upon

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:09.799
<v S8>his fellow Hebrews. But the first actions is he has

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:13.800
<v S8>also got anger. And so we see that trait, compassion,

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:16.680
<v S8>which also mixed with anger. And so both of those

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:19.160
<v S8>traits are going to characterize Moses the rest of the way.

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:22.160
<v S8>He's a man of compassion, but also too, he is

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:25.000
<v S8>a man that has anger issues. So paying attention to

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:27.880
<v S8>his first actions, you know, and the first words come

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:30.520
<v S8>out to the next day when he sees two Hebrews

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.040
<v S8>fighting together. First words that come out of Moses mouth,

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:35.759
<v S8>why are you hitting your fellow Egyptians, fellow Hebrew? So

0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:39.200
<v S8>we see this man who's justice oriented, associated with the law.

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:43.080
<v S8>So right from the start, that introduction of compassion and anger,

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:47.760
<v S8>but also justice orientation is really a perfect introduction to Moses,

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.190
<v S8>the character, The rest of the way in the Bible.

0:43:50.469 --> 0:43:53.790
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0:43:53.790 --> 0:43:55.590
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0:43:59.110 --> 0:44:03.390
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0:44:03.430 --> 0:44:06.549
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0:44:06.590 --> 0:44:08.710
<v S8>they don't really know what to look for when they

0:44:08.710 --> 0:44:13.989
<v S8>do the observation stage. So really this is that observation stage,

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0:44:59.070 --> 0:45:01.870
<v S8>Oh, you're so welcome. Blessings on you and our listeners.

0:45:01.870 --> 0:45:03.950
<v S2>Coming up here in a moment. Chris Martin, who in

0:45:03.950 --> 0:45:06.509
<v S2>the world is this guy, and how in the world

0:45:06.510 --> 0:45:09.270
<v S2>does he have a clearinghouse of resources that over a

0:45:09.270 --> 0:45:11.670
<v S2>million people have tapped? Details coming up.

0:45:12.070 --> 0:45:14.790
<v S1>Your shot of hope to help you through the day.

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<v S1>This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

0:45:18.190 --> 0:45:21.870
<v S2>Let's talk with my son. He's got a startup in Miami,

0:45:21.870 --> 0:45:25.150
<v S2>and he said, dad, for your staff there at church

0:45:25.150 --> 0:45:27.270
<v S2>and even what's going on at Moody Radio? You got

0:45:27.270 --> 0:45:31.750
<v S2>to find these young, fire breathing, run through the wall

0:45:31.790 --> 0:45:36.390
<v S2>kind of guys. And I'm like, yeah, and they could

0:45:36.390 --> 0:45:39.750
<v S2>be guys. That's my kind of universal term for guys

0:45:39.750 --> 0:45:43.430
<v S2>and gals. But we got a very serious dude who

0:45:43.430 --> 0:45:46.230
<v S2>runs through walls, and I've got him with me right now.

0:45:46.270 --> 0:45:47.790
<v S2>How's that for an intro, Chris Martin?

0:45:47.830 --> 0:45:50.510
<v S9>I'll take it. I'll take it. I run through walls that.

0:45:50.510 --> 0:45:51.630
<v S9>I suppose that could be a good thing or a

0:45:51.630 --> 0:45:54.190
<v S9>bad thing. I try to run through walls constructively, more

0:45:54.190 --> 0:45:55.270
<v S9>than destructively.

0:45:55.630 --> 0:45:59.109
<v S2>Yes, running through walls is a metaphor for willing to get.

0:45:59.150 --> 0:45:59.590
<v S9>Right.

0:45:59.630 --> 0:46:02.509
<v S2>Get done what you got to get done. And it's

0:46:02.510 --> 0:46:05.190
<v S2>great to have you on this team here. For anyone

0:46:05.190 --> 0:46:08.670
<v S2>that's kind of new to you, Chris, I'm going to

0:46:08.670 --> 0:46:10.270
<v S2>let you give your own bio because I don't know

0:46:10.270 --> 0:46:12.109
<v S2>what in the world kind of hats you're wearing right now.

0:46:12.110 --> 0:46:13.510
<v S2>What's going on in your life?

0:46:13.550 --> 0:46:16.109
<v S9>Yeah, yeah, yeah. So first, I'm a husband and dad.

0:46:16.110 --> 0:46:19.310
<v S9>I'm a husband to Susie and father to Maggie and Daisy.

0:46:19.350 --> 0:46:22.509
<v S9>Five and one and a half and, uh, yeah, my

0:46:22.510 --> 0:46:24.549
<v S9>family and I, we live outside Nashville, and we've been

0:46:24.550 --> 0:46:26.110
<v S9>there for a number of years. But I get to

0:46:26.150 --> 0:46:28.950
<v S9>serve here at Moody Global Media and Moody Radio as

0:46:28.950 --> 0:46:31.230
<v S9>the director of content. So I get to oversee everything

0:46:31.230 --> 0:46:33.830
<v S9>we're doing on the air and how we're serving listeners,

0:46:33.830 --> 0:46:37.070
<v S9>like everyone listening today. And I also get to help,

0:46:37.110 --> 0:46:38.950
<v S9>you know, we're doing this thing kind of alongside what

0:46:38.950 --> 0:46:42.149
<v S9>we're doing with Moody Radio and yourself and others. We're

0:46:42.150 --> 0:46:44.940
<v S9>kind of building up some more online content. So we're

0:46:44.940 --> 0:46:48.340
<v S9>trying to develop more podcasts. We're developing more videos for

0:46:48.340 --> 0:46:50.259
<v S9>YouTube because that's I mean, it's the biggest website in

0:46:50.260 --> 0:46:52.500
<v S9>the world. Virtually. Yes. And so we're just trying to

0:46:52.500 --> 0:46:55.339
<v S9>do a lot of work to serve people wherever they

0:46:55.340 --> 0:46:57.739
<v S9>want to be helped in taking their next steps in

0:46:57.739 --> 0:47:00.420
<v S9>their walk with Christ, whether it's on the air, listening

0:47:00.420 --> 0:47:03.500
<v S9>in their car, on their phone, or whether they're accessing

0:47:03.500 --> 0:47:07.060
<v S9>stuff through Facebook, YouTube or the internet generally. So I'm

0:47:07.100 --> 0:47:09.700
<v S9>trying to help serve you all and what you're doing

0:47:09.700 --> 0:47:12.700
<v S9>on air, as well as develop some new content for

0:47:12.700 --> 0:47:13.420
<v S9>the internet.

0:47:13.460 --> 0:47:16.020
<v S2>Yesterday we had callers, we had the phone lines wide

0:47:16.020 --> 0:47:18.060
<v S2>open here, and people were just flooding us with all

0:47:18.060 --> 0:47:20.859
<v S2>kinds of tools of transformation. That's what we're tackling all

0:47:20.860 --> 0:47:23.340
<v S2>week long. We'll get to your side hustle called Bible

0:47:23.380 --> 0:47:26.940
<v S2>to Life in a moment. But the the cool thing, Chris,

0:47:26.980 --> 0:47:31.660
<v S2>is how many people are truly impacted by Moody Radio

0:47:31.940 --> 0:47:34.460
<v S2>and the fact that you want to expand this into

0:47:34.460 --> 0:47:37.739
<v S2>more of a digital realm, especially with video. You're you've

0:47:37.739 --> 0:47:40.779
<v S2>got plans for that, even for the morning show right here.

0:47:40.820 --> 0:47:41.180
<v S2>Don't you?

0:47:41.180 --> 0:47:44.259
<v S9>Totally. Yeah. I mean, we we would love for this

0:47:44.260 --> 0:47:46.819
<v S9>morning show and actually believe that sometime in the, in

0:47:46.860 --> 0:47:49.100
<v S9>the next number of months. If not, you know, at

0:47:49.100 --> 0:47:51.020
<v S9>least within this next year, but certainly in the next

0:47:51.020 --> 0:47:54.700
<v S9>number of months, we want this morning show to go

0:47:54.739 --> 0:47:57.620
<v S9>beyond the bounds of radio. We want you guys to

0:47:57.620 --> 0:48:01.580
<v S9>continue to thrive and serve everyone who's listening today. But

0:48:01.580 --> 0:48:03.580
<v S9>we want to serve people who maybe don't listen to

0:48:03.620 --> 0:48:05.580
<v S9>the radio on a daily basis, but they do watch

0:48:05.580 --> 0:48:08.219
<v S9>YouTube shorts or they listen to podcasts, which I know

0:48:08.219 --> 0:48:09.700
<v S9>you guys have got the show cast and plenty of

0:48:09.700 --> 0:48:12.580
<v S9>people listen there, but I believe to get a little

0:48:12.620 --> 0:48:15.779
<v S9>wonky here for a second, short form video on the

0:48:15.780 --> 0:48:19.100
<v S9>internet is one of the most important forms of media

0:48:19.100 --> 0:48:22.420
<v S9>I've seen in my 12 plus years working in in

0:48:22.420 --> 0:48:28.500
<v S9>digital media. More people are consuming TikToks, Instagram Reels, YouTube

0:48:28.500 --> 0:48:32.259
<v S9>shorts than any form of content I've ever seen. The

0:48:32.260 --> 0:48:34.460
<v S9>share of attention, if you think of it that way,

0:48:34.460 --> 0:48:38.799
<v S9>the share of attention going to 30, 60, 92nd two

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:42.660
<v S9>minute videos is incredibly high. And to me, as someone

0:48:42.660 --> 0:48:45.700
<v S9>who wants to take all the resources we have generously

0:48:45.700 --> 0:48:47.900
<v S9>been given here at Moody Radio and Moody Global Media,

0:48:47.900 --> 0:48:50.739
<v S9>through through generous donors, through the people who give their

0:48:50.739 --> 0:48:53.259
<v S9>time and efforts through working here. I want to say,

0:48:53.260 --> 0:48:55.260
<v S9>how can we reach as many people with the gospel

0:48:55.260 --> 0:48:58.859
<v S9>as possible? That makes me ask and think, hmm, well,

0:48:58.860 --> 0:49:02.140
<v S9>where are people's eyes and ears? Insanely increasing number of

0:49:02.140 --> 0:49:05.140
<v S9>people's eyes and ears are on short form video. And

0:49:05.140 --> 0:49:07.299
<v S9>I want to take what you guys are doing, the

0:49:07.300 --> 0:49:09.780
<v S9>ministry you're doing through Carl and crew in the morning show,

0:49:10.140 --> 0:49:13.020
<v S9>and get that to people whose ears may never open

0:49:13.020 --> 0:49:15.819
<v S9>up to radio, but who are scrolling these apps all

0:49:15.820 --> 0:49:17.739
<v S9>the time. And I think that's a you know, I

0:49:17.739 --> 0:49:20.020
<v S9>was talking with a guy who leads our digital content efforts.

0:49:20.020 --> 0:49:22.379
<v S9>His name is Sean, and he said, he said, man,

0:49:22.380 --> 0:49:24.140
<v S9>this year, in the next 12 months or so, I

0:49:24.140 --> 0:49:27.300
<v S9>want us to be posting 100 videos a week, 100

0:49:27.300 --> 0:49:30.290
<v S9>videos a week. Right now we're probably doing about 7

0:49:30.290 --> 0:49:32.940
<v S9>or 8, maybe ten. And so we just want to

0:49:32.940 --> 0:49:36.900
<v S9>significantly increase the ministry we're doing in places where people's

0:49:36.900 --> 0:49:38.660
<v S9>attention is rapidly increasing.

0:49:38.700 --> 0:49:41.209
<v S2>Yeah, it's so beautiful. What do you think? The blue

0:49:41.210 --> 0:49:44.009
<v S2>sky is so blue ocean on me here. A little

0:49:44.050 --> 0:49:46.170
<v S2>big time vision. What do you think can happen? I

0:49:46.170 --> 0:49:49.169
<v S2>know that the goal of Mark job is to double

0:49:49.170 --> 0:49:52.170
<v S2>our impact. We might be going way beyond that.

0:49:52.170 --> 0:49:54.810
<v S9>Oh, yeah? Yeah. Moody Global Media wants to. Right now,

0:49:54.810 --> 0:49:56.969
<v S9>we think, you know, estimates can be kind of tough,

0:49:56.969 --> 0:50:00.050
<v S9>especially with radio. It's actually a little bit easier on

0:50:00.050 --> 0:50:03.490
<v S9>digital where you can track views or people who are engaging.

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<v S9>But we want to be reaching 100 million people a

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<v S9>week with the gospel. You know, our core of who

0:50:07.930 --> 0:50:09.330
<v S9>we are is we want to help people take their

0:50:09.330 --> 0:50:11.450
<v S9>next steps in their in their walk with Christ by

0:50:11.489 --> 0:50:14.490
<v S9>giving them tools like you're talking about here, by serving

0:50:14.489 --> 0:50:17.010
<v S9>them through the morning show, all of our national programming

0:50:17.010 --> 0:50:19.569
<v S9>throughout the day, as well as through other tools like

0:50:19.570 --> 0:50:22.010
<v S9>we're developing right now. We want to be serving 100

0:50:22.010 --> 0:50:24.129
<v S9>million people a week, and right now, we estimate we're

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<v S9>probably serving about 44 million people a week. So we're

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<v S9>we're doing we're doing great. We're serving more people than

0:50:29.730 --> 0:50:32.490
<v S9>we ever have. And we really think that by opening

0:50:32.489 --> 0:50:35.890
<v S9>up these digital avenues of communication and media, that we

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<v S9>can get to that 100 million people a week. Number.

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<v S9>Within the next number of years.

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<v S2>Dynamite. And I just want to tell you. Boom crew.

0:50:43.330 --> 0:50:45.770
<v S2>This guy, Chris Martin, he's the real deal. This guy

0:50:45.810 --> 0:50:48.649
<v S2>loves the Lord deeply. And it gives me great hope

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<v S2>for the future man of our nation, of the world

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<v S2>and the gospel going forward. Okay, a little side hustle

0:50:54.170 --> 0:50:56.649
<v S2>you have. It's called Bible to Life. Tell us all

0:50:56.650 --> 0:50:59.730
<v S2>about it. Talk about tools that transform. First off, how

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<v S2>many hits are you getting a month on this site?

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<v S9>Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I used to just for anyone listening,

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<v S9>I used to work at Moody Publishers for a number

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<v S9>of years before I came over here to Moody Radio

0:51:07.489 --> 0:51:10.010
<v S9>and Moody Global Media, and when I was at Moody Publishers,

0:51:10.010 --> 0:51:12.570
<v S9>they said, hey, you know, we understand the importance of digital.

0:51:12.610 --> 0:51:14.609
<v S9>We recognize people aren't reading books as much as they

0:51:14.610 --> 0:51:16.610
<v S9>used to. What if we took bits and pieces of

0:51:16.610 --> 0:51:19.169
<v S9>our books and chopped them up, you know, took a

0:51:19.210 --> 0:51:21.649
<v S9>chapter here or a part of a chapter here, and

0:51:21.650 --> 0:51:23.370
<v S9>we put them on the internet for people who are

0:51:23.410 --> 0:51:27.410
<v S9>googling for spiritual questions or biblical questions about, you know,

0:51:27.450 --> 0:51:29.850
<v S9>where's my dog go when it dies? Or does God

0:51:29.850 --> 0:51:31.770
<v S9>love me even if I lie sometimes? You know, they're

0:51:31.770 --> 0:51:34.530
<v S9>asking questions like this to Google more than they're asking

0:51:34.530 --> 0:51:37.640
<v S9>to pastors or parents. Which is sad. But rather than

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:40.000
<v S9>just weeping over that, we can also step in and say,

0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:42.200
<v S9>how can we help? What can we do for people

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:44.960
<v S9>who are asking Google these kinds of questions? So we

0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:47.600
<v S9>developed this website called Bible to Life, which is taking

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:51.239
<v S9>trusted Moody Publishers resources as well as articles written by

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:54.080
<v S9>friends of Moody Bible Institute and Moody Radio. And we

0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:56.840
<v S9>are getting in the last 12 months. So since June

0:51:56.880 --> 0:52:01.839
<v S9>of last year, we've had about 3.1 million people view

0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:06.759
<v S9>about 4.4 million articles. So. So 3.1 million people are

0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:09.359
<v S9>coming to the site per year now. And it's it's

0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:11.840
<v S9>rapidly growing. We're getting people from all over the world.

0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:14.279
<v S9>People are looking for Bible verses to encourage them. They're

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:16.600
<v S9>looking for every year we do a big post of, hey,

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:19.080
<v S9>if you know, in January, want to start reading the

0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:20.600
<v S9>Bible for the first time, here are a few Bible

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.680
<v S9>reading plans. That's always one of our most popular articles.

0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:26.719
<v S9>So when you're talking about tools and giving people tools

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:30.120
<v S9>to help follow Christ and become more like Jesus, this

0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:32.279
<v S9>is exactly the kind of thing we're trying to do here.

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:34.560
<v S9>Bible tell your joke. It's a it's a side hustle.

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:38.000
<v S9>It's actually it is a ministry of Moody Global Media

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:39.839
<v S9>that I just do with a few hours, a month

0:52:39.840 --> 0:52:41.560
<v S9>of my time. And our hope is over the course

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:43.440
<v S9>of the next couple of years, and our efforts to

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:46.160
<v S9>serve people on the internet more in some more robust ways,

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:48.160
<v S9>is that Bible to life can become even more than

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:50.640
<v S9>what it currently is. But about 3 million people a

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:52.680
<v S9>year are being served by it, and we're grateful for that.

0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:54.879
<v S9>And we're hopeful that that people are taking their next

0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:56.120
<v S9>steps with Jesus with it.

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<v S2>So, Chris, the website Bible to life.com.

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<v S9>That's right. That's right. Bible Life.com you can go there

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:03.960
<v S9>and there's a there's a web page for new visitors.

0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:06.359
<v S9>If you've never been there before, it'll tell you how

0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:08.360
<v S9>to use it. If it's a bit confusing, there's also

0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:10.480
<v S9>a weekly email. We don't send a ton of email.

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:12.359
<v S9>We won't spam you. But once a week I send

0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:15.040
<v S9>out a collection of popular articles from the week if

0:53:15.080 --> 0:53:17.239
<v S9>you would rather get an email. I know a lot

0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:19.439
<v S9>of folks prefer that rather than going to a site

0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:20.600
<v S9>and looking for things.

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<v S2>Yeah, I love it. Okay, I'm going to put you

0:53:22.280 --> 0:53:26.360
<v S2>on the spot here. I've been advertising all week long. Mr. Pin, sleek,

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:29.960
<v S2>acid free highlighter on. Honestly, this is the best highlighter

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:33.799
<v S2>ever because most highlighters bleed through multiple pages of scripture. Yeah,

0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:36.000
<v S2>it's kind of funny, I know, but it's a really

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:39.160
<v S2>good tool that helps transform my life because I get

0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:42.040
<v S2>to highlight scriptures in a good old fashioned hard copy Bible.

0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:46.400
<v S2>What resource has most impacted you spiritually lately?

0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:52.319
<v S9>Oh man. Most impacted me spiritually lately. Resources. So I, um,

0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:55.480
<v S9>I've been brushing up on catching up on C.S. Lewis.

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:57.719
<v S9>So when I was in college, like a lot of

0:53:57.719 --> 0:53:59.480
<v S9>people probably, I read a lot of C.S. Lewis for

0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:01.040
<v S9>the first time, I read Mere Christianity. You know, I

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:04.600
<v S9>read the hits, I read Mere Christianity, I read Screwtape Letters,

0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:07.319
<v S9>I read Narnia, but I didn't go beyond to a

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:09.520
<v S9>bunch of his other works. And so this spring, I've

0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:12.040
<v S9>been kind of remedying that. So I read The Abolition

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:16.040
<v S9>of Man. I read letters to Malcolm chiefly on prayer.

0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:18.239
<v S9>I read The Weight of Glory. So I've read some

0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:20.680
<v S9>of his work. So good. Yeah, I've read some of

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:23.240
<v S9>his works that aren't quite as well known. And man,

0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:26.200
<v S9>Letters to Malcolm, chiefly on Prayer, which I think is

0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:30.710
<v S9>the last book he ever published. Tremendous resource on And

0:54:30.989 --> 0:54:35.950
<v S9>helping me reflect on my prayer life, my corporate worship life,

0:54:35.950 --> 0:54:38.589
<v S9>and how I view the corporate worship experience. Just this week, actually,

0:54:38.590 --> 0:54:41.310
<v S9>I wrote in my newsletter. I think Lewis has a

0:54:41.310 --> 0:54:44.150
<v S9>great point in there, talking about how we're often tempted

0:54:44.150 --> 0:54:48.070
<v S9>to pray as we think we ought, rather than pray

0:54:48.070 --> 0:54:50.590
<v S9>as we actually are. And I don't think there's a

0:54:50.590 --> 0:54:52.910
<v S9>lot of ways that we can fumble our prayers and

0:54:52.910 --> 0:54:55.310
<v S9>coming before the Lord. But I think our kind of

0:54:55.350 --> 0:55:00.430
<v S9>admittance ticket is simply being ourselves, rather than being someone

0:55:00.430 --> 0:55:02.190
<v S9>we think we should be. And I think if there's

0:55:02.190 --> 0:55:04.870
<v S9>any way we can truly fumble coming before the Lord

0:55:04.870 --> 0:55:07.990
<v S9>in prayer, it's by thinking that we ought to come

0:55:07.989 --> 0:55:11.109
<v S9>a certain way rather than come as we are. And

0:55:11.110 --> 0:55:12.830
<v S9>I think Lewis just has a great point on that.

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<v S9>So Letters to Malcolm chiefly on prayer would be my

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<v S9>tool that I recommend.

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<v S2>Love it. Bible to life. Com boom crew. Check it

0:55:20.830 --> 0:55:24.629
<v S2>out today. Get subscribed there and start looking around. You're

0:55:24.630 --> 0:55:27.030
<v S2>going to find resources that are going to be transformative

0:55:27.030 --> 0:55:29.950
<v S2>Bible to life. Com Chris Martin thanks for ducking in

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<v S2>here man.