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S1: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
S2: Carl and crew come as you are. Overcome what seems impossible.
S2: Live as you never imagined. Is that possible? It's all
S2: done in the name of Jesus. It's interesting. A lot
S2: of us look at if we maybe tag on in
S2: Jesus name, that that is the way we pray. That
S2: was never the intent in the name of Jesus. And
S2: praying in Jesus name. Is that the embodiment of what
S2: we just shared, God willing, is true to who we are,
S2: true to the character of God, true to the truth
S2: of God's Word. And we say it all in the
S2: name of Jesus, meaning he has the efficacy. He has
S2: the ability. He has the power to change not only us,
S2: but those people around us here today. You know, I
S2: am aware this morning that you get up and you
S2: have things on your heart that are heavy And one
S2: of the great tools of transformation that is right at
S2: the ready here today is to be able to pray
S2: and ask God, God, what would you do today? It's
S2: easy to ask, what am I going to do today?
S2: How am I going to handle this? How am I
S2: going to overcome this obstacle that's standing right in front
S2: of me? How am I going to deal with a
S2: wayward kid that's assaulting me verbally? I mean, fill in
S2: the blank. But there's a beautiful thing that we can
S2: do when we, in the name of Jesus, take all
S2: the trials and the challenges that we're going to face
S2: today and just lay them before God. There's something about open,
S2: honest vulnerability. The greatest prayers are not these surface prayers,
S2: but they go deep down to the innermost groanings of
S2: our heart. You find that in David. It's a beautiful thing.
S2: And I think that deep work that God wants to
S2: do in us is one of the ones that we
S2: most avoid. Why do we avoid the deep work that
S2: God wants to do in us, young thunder?
S3: Because the deep work can hurt a little bit. Sometimes
S3: I think that it involves, uh, a little bit more digging.
S3: And sometimes the deeper you get, the more you maybe
S3: identify things. Pain in your past that is hard to
S3: recount or something that you need to admit that you
S3: don't want to admit. You know, it can require hard
S3: things sometimes to go deeper.
S2: Can really can. It can get really tough. And the
S2: beautiful thing about the Word of God is it reveals
S2: deep work all over the place. When that comes into
S2: our mind and we just become kind of intellectual brokers.
S2: Knowledge brokers is what I love to call it. When
S2: we become brokers of knowledge, there can be some liberty
S2: in that. But when we become brokers of truth that
S2: digs down deep and really cares for the souls of people. Boy,
S2: it changes everything. When we think about the harvest that's
S2: ready in this world today, it's. It's real, isn't it?
S2: I mean, we see we see a lot of pain.
S2: We see a lot of recklessness. And I think we're
S2: tempted to say things never change. They're always going to
S2: be this way. But we live in the kingdom of God.
S2: We live in a new kingdom. And, you know, there's
S2: so much going on. I'm thinking about what's happening in
S2: New York. And they had a big vote yesterday. I
S2: don't think it's the final vote. It's the primary.
S3: Primary?
S2: Yeah. For the mayor of New York. And boy, there's
S2: a lot of different choices that people have. And. The
S2: question comes up, are we going to be political animals
S2: that have strong opinions and maybe wring our hands about
S2: whatever kind of a political, social, cultural thing that we see?
S2: Or are we going to be spiritual children of God
S2: that go before his throne and lay it out? We
S2: don't have because we don't ask at times. And whether
S2: it's a national or local or very personal issue that's
S2: on your heart today. One of the great tools of
S2: transformation is that we can bring our heart before the Lord,
S2: open it up and say, father, here's my situation and
S2: this is the beautiful place where real work gets done.
S2: Now I want to show this to you because oftentimes
S2: we say we want to raise up workers for the
S2: harvest field because look at the harvest, man. It's so ripe.
S2: And we and we underestimate the two pronged approach to
S2: care for those that are in the harvest. We don't
S2: look at the context of the passage. It's easy to
S2: say the harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. Therefore,
S2: pray earnestly for the Lord of the harvest to send
S2: out laborers into his harvest. The question is, what is
S2: the work that's to be done by the laborers? Fair enough.
S3: Fair enough.
S2: We got to ask that one, don't we? Super dei
S2: every time. If we're raising up workers, what in the
S2: world kind of work are the workers going to be doing?
S3: Well, you kind of want to know that.
S4: Thank you. Yeah.
S2: So coming up here in a moment, I just I
S2: really felt prompted this morning that we needed to talk
S2: about what is this work. Because these tools of transformation
S2: that we're talking about all week long. And we're going
S2: to have Jim Coakley in here talking about a book
S2: that's been highly endorsed, by the way, not only by
S2: my bride, who says it's the best book she's ever
S2: read to understand the scriptures as she reads it, but
S2: it's a book that helps us then take the truths
S2: that we understand and use them as tools in practical ways,
S2: in our life and in the life of others. Coming
S2: up here in a moment. Matthew nine. The harvest is plentiful,
S2: but the laborers are few. Therefore, pray earnestly to the
S2: Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest.
S2: What are the laborers to do? It's right in the
S2: context of the passage, and we'll break it down. This
S2: is Caleb. And John. Got a hallelujah feeling this morning.
S2: Give God praise. No matter what you're going through. Give
S2: voice in prayer to God today for that thing. Watch
S2: him work.
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S1: can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's
S1: curl and crew on Moody Radio.
S2: You know, there is a awesome thing that we find
S2: in the scriptures. And I'm going to give you the
S2: passage and then I'm going to illustrate this, and then
S2: I'm going to ask you to call in and illustrate
S2: it from your own life. The harvest is plentiful, but
S2: the laborers are few. Therefore, pray earnestly to the Lord
S2: of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest field.
S2: When we think about labors, what do we commonly think, guys?
S3: Well, I think we laborers in a spiritual sense.
S4: Yeah. Pastors.
S2: Missionaries, I think.
S3: Missionaries, yeah. People who were who were volunteering each week
S3: on a team, you know, an evangelist, something like that.
S4: Yeah.
S2: Yeah. And I think that's good.
S3: Yeah.
S2: But it's not great because we're missing something like the
S2: broadside of a barn here. This is one of the
S2: most powerful things. And this is going to this for
S2: some of you. You're going to go, oh, I know
S2: who did this for me. This is what Jesus said.
S2: He went throughout all the cities and villages, teaching in
S2: their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom. Okay.
S2: That we would say that's work. That's harvest.
S4: Work.
S3: That's a harvest.
S4: That's it.
S2: But he goes on and healing every disease and affliction.
S2: When he saw the crowds, he had compassion for them
S2: because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd. Whoa!
S2: Hold it here a second. He went into the synagogues
S2: and preached, but he healed. And if you think about healing,
S2: there's a certain amount of proximity that goes far deeper
S2: than just teaching in a synagogue, sitting at a pulpit.
S2: It gets into the life of someone, you know, how
S2: they're injured, how they're hurting, what they need. But then
S2: you see the real flavor of this. When he saw
S2: the crowds, he had compassion for them because they were
S2: harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd. The one
S2: time you see Jesus really weeping was when he looked
S2: at a city of Jerusalem, and he knew that they
S2: were hurting people. There's a certain amount of empathy where
S2: you get into the muck of a person's life, and
S2: the heart behind it is not just gospel proclamation, but
S2: gospel compassion. Passion. Gospel compassion. One of the coolest things
S2: that ever happened to me. The first taste I ever
S2: got of gospel compassion, probably beyond my parents. I knew
S2: that my mom and dad had compassion for me. Sure.
S2: You know, I think one of the plates for a
S2: lot of kids that were raised in church is that
S2: we almost take for granted the love of mom and dad.
S2: But boy, when you feel it from someone else, Katie
S2: bar the door. I was working in the oil fields,
S2: really running from God and I love to tell this story.
S2: And British Petroleum, I was working for them. They had a.
S2: This is back in the Wild West. Days were 300
S2: miles north of the Arctic Circle. We're in this beautiful facility,
S2: and they had contracted in a band and they had
S2: an open bar. They don't have open bars anymore, but
S2: they had an open bar and the partying was heavy.
S2: We worked 12 hours on, 12 hours off for a
S2: week to two weeks, sometimes four weeks, and then back home.
S2: A hitch was 12 hours a day minimum. Sometimes it
S2: went well beyond that. So you were up there to work,
S2: but occasionally they would have these parties trying to keep
S2: the troops morale up and things like that. So I
S2: had a few in me and I looked across while
S2: the band was playing. They were playing a good song.
S2: I'm saying with a few buddies and I there, I
S2: saw Dave Churchill. Can't wait to talk with this guy
S2: in heaven. Dave Churchill was planting a church with my
S2: mom and dad outside Anchorage, Alaska. He was a man's man.
S2: Former Alaska state trooper, now a security guard, retired security
S2: guard at British Petroleum, up in the oil fields. And
S2: here he comes walking my way. And I'm like, I
S2: might have been maybe the first guy to coin the
S2: phrase hold my beer.
S3: But not in the way that people think. You were afraid.
S4: I'm scared. Where can I crawl under something?
S2: Here comes Dave Churchill. And I thought, oh boy, I'm
S2: going to get scolded. Well, he did something worse. He
S2: put his arm around me. The band playing kind of
S2: yelled quietly into my ear because the band's loud. He said, hey, Carl,
S2: it's good to see you. How are you, buddy? I said,
S2: I'm doing great, Dave. Trying not to breathe on him.
S2: Doing great Dave. Doing great. Uh, don't tell my parents
S2: that I got alcohol on my breath up here, even
S2: though they knew it. And he put his arm around
S2: me and he said, look at me. And I looked
S2: at him. And in those eyes were compassion, genuine compassion.
S2: And what was worse than getting kind of tongue lashed
S2: with not being in church and having a beer in
S2: my hand that he clearly saw, even though now my
S2: buddy had it. He looked at me and he said, hey, listen.
S2: Life on the slope, it's called the slope. Life on
S2: the slope can be tough, man. If you ever need
S2: anyone to talk to and we're on the same hitch.
S2: I'm here for you, bro. Yeah, well, it was awful.
S3: And, yeah, I know it was awful.
S2: Dave Churchill was one of the first guys ever in
S2: my life that reached below gospel presentation to have empathy.
S2: And it was powerful. God used Dave Churchill and a
S2: set of other circumstances to call me out of darkness
S2: and into light. Because when the chips are down, for
S2: someone who's really hurting, the very kind of people that
S2: Jesus looked at and said, they're harassed and helpless like
S2: sheep without a shepherd. That's who flashes through your head.
S2: It's that kind of compassion, that kind of empathy. It's
S2: a powerful thing, guys. Yeah. One of the tools of transformation,
S2: when we think about workers that are being raised up
S2: for the harvest field, is not just gospel proclamation. It's
S2: heartfelt compassion, willing to get into the weeds and the
S2: muck and the mire with someone and say, hey, if
S2: you ever need to talk to anyone, I'm here. It's
S2: a powerful thing. I've had people since Dave Churchill. It
S2: was beautiful. It's an awesome thing. But here's what I
S2: want you to know. And here's what I want you
S2: to testify to. Some of you have a person in
S2: mind that didn't just do the work of proclamation. They
S2: did the work of compassion. They did the work of empathy.
S2: They looked in your eyes and said, I love you.
S2: I know that below the surface is some stuff that
S2: isn't pretty. And I'm here for you. I want you
S2: to call in and testify to those people this morning.
S2: You don't have to give gory details, but you can
S2: give some. But anyone that's truly been transformed by God
S2: and is growing up in him. Probably had someone who
S2: became a Y in the road in their life when
S2: they were at a crisis, and they loved him and
S2: they spoke words of life over him. Give me a
S2: call right now. Share your story. 805 55 7898. Come
S2: on in. 805 55, 78, 98. One of the great
S2: missing tools of transformation is to be armed with empathy
S2: and compassion. And it's powerful. Come on. Light them up.
S2: 800 555. 7898. You're overjoyed in the salvation that you
S2: have in Jesus Christ. And you can look back and
S2: you can see people who did more than just gospel proclamation.
S2: It was gospel empathy. It was gospel compassion proclamations. Awesome compassion.
S2: That's where breakthrough comes. Jesus got down in it with
S2: the people. He didn't stand off Standoff from afar. He
S2: got down in it with the people. Give us a
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S2: or 2 of you in here. 805, 55. 78. 98.
S2: If the Spirit of God has a lump in your throat,
S2: he's probably ringing the dinner bell for you. So give
S2: me a call. 800 555 7898.
S1: She's a choreographer extraordinaire, and everything is Greek to her.
S1: Super di is in the crew. It's Carl and crew
S1: on Moody Radio.
S2: Who's that person in your life who had proclamation which
S2: amused amusing some iteration here, but I'm using the words
S2: that Jesus has here in Matthew nine. He proclaimed the
S2: gospel of the kingdom, but he also had compassion for
S2: them because they were harassed and helpless. It was both
S2: proclamation and compassion. And when they come together, wow, you
S2: got a lethal combination. I it's beautiful, uh, green driving
S2: here in Chicago. What do you say, green?
S5: Carl. My dad. Oh, my dad is consistency. Love of God.
S5: You know, living in people don't know how important it
S5: is to live in front of your children. And we did.
S5: I left high school seeking everything every other teenage college
S5: kid seek. But it's constant love and persistence and dedication
S5: to God. Just when I when I got to that
S5: point and the Lord, you know, did that call, it
S5: was so easy to transition because his consistency made it
S5: evident that God was real in him. And I wanted
S5: him real in me. And now I have sons that
S5: are in the same thing. So my dad's passion, love,
S5: dedication to God seven days a week was the the
S5: the the TNT in my life.
S2: Boom. Green up. I I'd bet my bottom buck. Your
S2: dad did not get weak in the knees about speaking
S2: truth to you, right? He spoke truth.
S5: No, not not only did he speak truth, but he
S5: ministered truth as well. Yes. He tell you to do
S5: with your children.
S2: Yeah. And he and he had compassion galore. That's. You
S2: had a lethal combination of good dad. Good man. That's
S2: a good dad. Green.
S5: The love was so consistent. He did World War two
S5: in Corpus Christi, Texas, in the Navy. He worked at
S5: the steel mill for 30 years to feed eight children.
S5: But he never wavered in his commitment. I don't care
S5: how bad things got. He was there and the light
S5: was on, and you had to be. You had to
S5: be taken out of this world not to recognize it.
S2: Ah, green, I love your dad. Never met him. Love
S2: that man. Thank you for calling in. See? Proclamation. Compassion.
S2: You put those two together. Look out! Jesse Pierre, South Dakota.
S2: First time caller. What do you say, Jesse?
S6: Well, it's my foster father. That's who led me to Jesus. And, um,
S6: you know, such an inspiration. I always said, if anybody is,
S6: I could compare to anybody on this earth. To Jesus,
S6: that would be him. Foster dad. He didn't. I mean,
S6: he was such a wonderful man. Strong Christian family. I mean,
S6: I was in foster care for almost 16 years. But
S6: then towards the last 12 years, I met this family
S6: and it just changed my life.
S4: Oh, Jesse.
S6: I'm so grateful that, you know, he planted that seed.
S6: And this person that was lost absolutely lost because my
S6: parents threw me alongside the road and said, I don't
S6: want you no more. I remember that day. And the
S6: thing is, is that yes, I was three years old
S6: at the time, and and we were bounced here and
S6: there in foster care.
S4: And I just.
S6: Totally lost trust in people. I was scared of men.
S6: I was scared of everything. And then when I met
S6: my dad, it was like, you know, it took me
S6: about a year and a half to two years to
S6: trust him. But once I did, boy, that was it.
S6: I love my dad, but he left me about three
S6: years ago. He died of cancer. But, you know, that's
S6: that's my inspiration right there. That's what you know. That's,
S6: you know, God's love was seen through him.
S2: Yeah. Jesse, that's one of the most powerful stories I've
S2: ever heard. Hear you remember when your parents cast you
S2: aside at three years of age? You remember that, Jesse?
S6: Yes, I do. It was cold out. It was dark. And.
S6: And it was like I, my twin brother, and and
S6: I remember her words. She said, I don't want you.
S6: And she threw us out on the side of the road.
S6: And I was like, wow.
S2: My goodness.
S6: Jessie. And then we were in and out of foster care.
S6: And then I met my dad, and he's a Navy man,
S6: and he, you know, and I'm Native American, and he,
S6: you know, he didn't see my color either. He said,
S6: you're my daughter. You're my daughter.
S2: Jessie.
S6: Thank you.
S2: I don't even have words for this guy. What a
S2: man of God, huh? Jessie.
S6: Beautiful. He's a wonderful man. Wonderful man. Kind, caring. I mean,
S6: you saw that, though. Every characteristic that what I'm reading
S6: in the Bible. But Jesus, he had it. He had.
S7: It. Oh my goodness.
S2: Yeah. Thank the Lord for him. Oh, I'm going to
S2: do that with you. God, I'm with Jesse. I thank
S2: the Lord for her daddy. And what an amazing thing.
S2: And I think, Lord, for me, the fruit of Jesse's
S2: adopted dad, foster dad, whatever he role, whatever title he had, he.
S2: His impact is very evident to me. As seen in
S2: Jesse's life. There's no way a girl can look back
S2: at three and speak like she does without having a
S2: dad like her that pointed her to a father like you.
S2: And God. We give you thanks for that man and Lord,
S2: I can't wait to meet Jesse's dad in heaven. In
S2: Jesus name. Let it be, man. I can't wait to
S2: meet your dad, Jesse.
S6: I mean, he is there. He is there. Praise God.
S2: Oh, my goodness, that was. That is powerful, Jesse. I
S2: don't even have words for that.
S1: You can take him out of Alaska, but you can't
S1: take Alaska out of him. Carl is in the crew.
S1: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
S2: I want to share with you my heart here for
S2: just a moment this morning. I want you to hear
S2: my heart more than my words. There are many of
S2: you that got up this morning. Maybe you tuned in
S2: to this radio station. You don't even know how you
S2: got here. But you're here. And I think God brought
S2: you here for a reason. And if there's one of
S2: you that this reason is important for, that's reason enough.
S2: Our God loves you so much. And there comes a
S2: time in your life when God will allow you to
S2: go through a level of pain that you need someone
S2: to reach out with compassion and tell you, I see it,
S2: and I don't know your situation this morning, but I
S2: know this. I've been on my face, the inside of
S2: my heart, in turmoil, needing someone to reach out with
S2: compassion to me and tell me where to find life.
S2: I'm so grateful to God that I had a couple
S2: of people in my life who didn't reach out with
S2: condemnation or platitudes, but they reached into my heart and
S2: they spoke deeply. One was my own dad, who saw,
S2: although I was raised in church, was so far from God,
S2: and he reached out with love, put his arm around
S2: me with tears streaming down his face, and he said,
S2: we're praying today. Speaking of his, my mom and him said,
S2: we're praying today that either your life has totally turned
S2: over to the leadership and the Lordship of Jesus Christ,
S2: and you give everything that you are to Jesus, or
S2: that God would take you out of this world because
S2: you're killing yourself anyway. Carl. The backstory behind this is,
S2: although I was a pretty good kid growing up, lined
S2: up my Matchbox cars, I had this hole in my
S2: heart and I tried to fill it with everything possible
S2: from an 1100 mile dog sled race across Alaska to
S2: working in the oil fields, making good money to get
S2: in a raging cocaine habit. There wasn't enough cocaine in
S2: Alaska to fill the void in my heart, but Jesus did.
S2: And I want to speak to you this morning. You've
S2: believed in Jesus, but the belief is not transformative. It's
S2: an intellectual belief, but it's not a soul surrendered belief.
S2: I want you to give your life to Jesus today.
S2: I have felt the pain that you've felt in the past.
S2: It's real as real can be. And you know what's
S2: going on in your life. Jesus looked at people like
S2: you and he said, you need a shepherd right now.
S2: You're being ranched you're being ranched by all the different
S2: worldviews that are out there. You're being ranched by family
S2: of origin issues. You're being ranched by your own addictions,
S2: but no one's put his arm around you to say,
S2: walk this way. But Jesus is this morning by the
S2: power of the Holy Spirit, saying, today's the day to
S2: surrender all that you are to Jesus Christ today. Take
S2: it from an old cocaine addict. Take it from an
S2: old partier. God can take the deepest pain in your
S2: life and transform you completely. And he wants to do
S2: that today. You might be asking how you know when
S2: you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord. That's
S2: deep man, because it's more than just saying like the
S2: demons believe and they tremble. No, it's saying, I believe
S2: that Jesus Christ is more than just a good man
S2: or the Savior of the world. He's my savior today.
S2: It's an it's an awesome thing when you've been brought
S2: so low that you have nothing but to cling to Jesus.
S2: That's that's God's grace. He got you there this morning.
S2: And take it from a guy who was raised in
S2: church and walked aisles and was in a youth ministry
S2: and did all kinds of spiritual stuff that can't save you, friend.
S2: Only Jesus, through full surrender to his lordship, can save
S2: your life, but he can save you thoroughly today. And
S2: I have compassion for you. I can only imagine the
S2: pain that you have in your life. But this is
S2: what I know. Although I can only imagine the pain
S2: in your life, I know the one who can shepherd
S2: your soul into streams of living water. He can satisfy
S2: a thirst that you've had and quench it like you
S2: can't believe. But you must turn around and surrender your
S2: life to Jesus today and believe that he's been raised
S2: from the dead. Make Jesus Lord for the first time
S2: in your life. Don't let the delusion of church attendance
S2: and spiritual activity think that that can save you. It
S2: will not save you. You're on a highway to hell. Friend.
S2: But Jesus can turn you around today. And he is,
S2: isn't he? I want you to pray with me. It's
S2: a prayer of faith. And just tell him this. I'm
S2: hurting God. Thank you for the compassion that I feel. God,
S2: today I need a shepherd. I'm tired of being ranched.
S2: Today I surrender everything that I am to Jesus Christ. Everything.
S2: Today I say you are my savior. I give you
S2: my whole life. Thank you for dying for my sins.
S2: Thank you for saving my soul. Right now, this is
S2: going to sound strange, but I want you to do
S2: this right now. Tell him thank you for the pain
S2: that brought me to the point of calling out to
S2: the good Shepherd, Jesus Christ. Tell him that. And if
S2: today is a day friend that you know that you've
S2: come to the end of yourself, get this. Blessed are
S2: the poor in spirit. Theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Wow!
S2: Spiritual bankruptcy is met with kingdom life. No price for admission.
S2: It was paid for you by Jesus Christ. And if
S2: that's you and God's doing a work in you and
S2: you're driving right now, praise God you're walking right now.
S2: Praise God you're in an office. You're at home. You're
S2: in a kitchen. Wherever you are, I want you to
S2: get to. If you're driving side of the road, get
S2: to a safe place, and I want all of you
S2: that are surrendering your life to Jesus today. And you are.
S2: You are feeling the compassion and the calling of Jesus
S2: to surrender your life fully to Christ today. Just text
S2: the word new and we're going to help you with
S2: some with a resource that's going to tell you what
S2: to do in these first steps with Jesus. Just text
S2: the word new right now. Got your phone text new
S2: to 800 555 7898. Man. God knew that you'd be here.
S2: The Spirit of God knew that. He'd prompt me at
S2: this very moment in this hour, to let you know
S2: about the greatest lover of your soul, the one filled
S2: with compassion who loves you. And I'm asking you right
S2: now to respond to him. Don't delay. And we're going
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S2: God knew you'd be here. God knew you needed him.
S2: And God can make all things new. And he's doing
S2: it today. Coming up here in a moment, I'll shout
S2: out the last four numbers of all of you that
S2: are responding to Jesus today. Just text the word new
S2: and we'll help you in your first steps of surrender
S2: to Jesus Christ to 800 555 7898. Just that one
S2: word new to 800 555 7898. And man, I'm talking soft,
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S1: A basketball mom who's mastered the dad joke. Ali is
S1: in the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
S2: It's Carl and crew. It's Wednesday morning, bottom of the hour, but. Oh, no.
S2: We're going to break some hearts this morning.
S4: We are.
S2: Boy, we're going to break some hearts. This is tough.
S2: I want to be able to tell you this though.
S2: Ali has gone to a mission field that cannot be disclosed.
S2: So we're going to have to leave some mystery in that.
S2: But she is headed off to a mission field that
S2: cannot be disclosed. It's one of those kind of fields
S2: of ministry. But how cool that our sister is rolling
S2: up her sleeves doing something like that.
S4: That's awesome. Yeah. So excited in my prayers, that is
S4: for sure. I can't wait to hear her stories when
S4: she comes back.
S2: It's going to be tremendous. And please be praying for
S2: Ali as she's away and give us some grace on
S2: the jokes. I was thinking about doing them and then
S2: the Holy Spirit told me, no, you're not going to
S2: try dad jokes for Ali. That isn't going to work. No.
S2: They've got Doctor Jim Coakley here with us today, and
S2: we are going to really mix it up. Here's what
S2: I want to spike here before I bring in Jim.
S2: This is very important. And I want you to hear
S2: me boom crew. And I want you to hear me
S2: loud and clear. Oftentimes when we think of the work
S2: of the ministry, it's what Super and Young Thunder just
S2: said at the top of the hour. Come on, let's
S2: go through them. Work of ministry. What is it, guys?
S2: Come on. Normal conventional wisdom. Work of ministry.
S4: Pastors.
S3: Missionaries.
S4: Yeah.
S3: Uh, you got evangelists? Yeah. Your regular volunteers at the
S3: church who are who are at the Welcome Center, that
S3: kind of thing.
S2: Yeah, yeah. And those are all great. I mean, my goodness. Evangelists, teachers.
S4: Thank you. Yes.
S2: Yeah. We got to have that. We've got to have servants.
S2: We've got people that are rolling up their sleeves and
S2: caring for little kids. But therein lies now we're getting
S2: into the word a little bit more. See, to have
S2: proclamation without compassion was never the intent of God. As
S2: a matter of fact, proclamation without compassion. What is it?
S2: It's cold Orthodoxy. It's cold. And if you look into
S2: your own life, you've all got the Dave Churchill's in
S2: your life. People that loved you enough to say, look,
S2: I know you got alcohol on your breath, Carl. That's
S2: Dave Churchill's story for me. I know you're up here
S2: partying in the north Slope of Alaska, 300 miles north
S2: of the Arctic Circle, working hard, earning a lot of money.
S2: But deep inside your soul, you're empty. And I'm here
S2: for you. That's what Dave Churchill was saying to me.
S2: And boy, did he read my mail. Everything inside of
S2: me wanted to talk to Dave and go. Dave, let
S2: me tell you more here, man. But I was too
S2: proud to do it right there. Got my buddies. One
S2: of them's holding my beer. So the question is, how
S2: do we get into the Word of God and begin
S2: to see things? I'm kind of interested. What's one of
S2: the 14 fresh ways that I looked at this passage
S2: right here, and got beyond the proclamation and see the compassion? Well,
S2: context is very important, and just reading around a central
S2: passage of Scripture is key. But there are 14 fresh
S2: ways to enjoy the Bible, and it is a book,
S2: and it's such a great book. We had callers yesterday
S2: that said it just changed their life. A guy named
S2: Garth called me yesterday and said, change. Change the way
S2: I read the Bible. And I think the biggest testimonial
S2: for this book is my own bride who says, Bob,
S2: this book single handedly has changed my Bible reading into
S2: a more robust understanding like no other book that I've read.
S2: So talk about tools to transform. And the author of this,
S2: Jim Coakley is in studio, and we're going to talk
S2: with him in just a moment. Great man of God,
S2: dear friend, colleague here at Moody, but also one of
S2: our elders at 180 Chicago. So I get to see
S2: up close and personal a heart of compassion in this guy.
S2: And it's a beautiful thing. Hang on. Jim Coakley coming
S2: up straight ahead.
S1: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
S2: The heart of the Savior is amazing. You see him
S2: weeping over Jerusalem. And in this narrative of Matthew chapter nine,
S2: you see these words and these are often quoted. The
S2: harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. Therefore pray
S2: earnestly for the Lord of the harvest to send out
S2: laborers into his harvest. Doctor Jim Coakley with us right now,
S2: author of a tremendous book, and we're going to break
S2: that down. But I want to jump right into this narrative, Jim.
S2: It's an interesting thing. We can get a cultural default
S2: that says proclamation, teaching of the word. That's the essence
S2: of workers or using your gift in some way, shape
S2: or form. But there is both proclamation and compassion here
S2: that is absolutely beautiful. And we've got to catch that,
S2: don't we, Jim?
S8: Oh, we sure do. And that's the the beauty of
S8: what I think I see in this passage right from
S8: the start. Oftentimes we think that, hey, the reason I
S8: before I can even minister, before I become a missionary,
S8: before I become a pastor, I need to work up compassion.
S8: But if you look at what the text says, look
S8: at what it begins with. It says Jesus went through
S8: all the towns and villages teaching in their synagogues. So
S8: it wasn't like he needed to muster up compassion before
S8: he went into ministry. He was doing ministry. And while
S8: he's doing ministry, that compassion developed. And so this is
S8: where it's a combination that you can't separate the two.
S8: They're dovetailed together. Is that as you're going out doing
S8: the Lord's work, you develop compassion and then you want
S8: to do more of the Lord's work. And so this
S8: is really, I think that idea of proclamation and compassion
S8: together is really so embedded, so intertwined here in Matthew
S8: chapter nine.
S2: I don't know that we have, because the goal of
S2: real work is that it's transformative to our listeners and
S2: to those that we're reaching out to and touching. Jim,
S2: you must have had that early on before you were
S2: born again, if you haven't seen a picture of it.
S2: Jim Coakley, he was bandana man, long hair and, uh,
S2: far from God, Jim. But somebody must have reached into
S2: your heart more than just with the gospel, but with
S2: the heart of love and compassion.
S8: Yeah. I mean, I think there's several people that I
S8: think were were part of that. One of them is
S8: my beloved wife, Gail. When I think about what I
S8: look like in high school and the. The long haired
S8: hippie type with the bandana around my head and the
S8: fact that she didn't shun me, and the idea of
S8: even her parents when I was first starting to go
S8: to church.
S2: That's bigger. Yeah, yeah.
S8: That was a bigger. And I'm thinking now, based on
S8: what I would have thought of myself with anybody wanting
S8: to date my daughter, now she's married. So I think
S8: we have to worry about those kind of things. But
S8: the idea is, you know, that I was not shunned.
S8: Even though I looked different. I didn't look like I
S8: was a Christian. If there was a prototype, that could
S8: be that I was not it. And so the idea
S8: that they allowed me space to be able to process
S8: the claims of the gospel in a way that gave
S8: me freedom to kind of work through that was, I think,
S8: really the catalyst that it could have really set me
S8: off in a totally different trajectory if they had rejected me.
S2: What's one of the ways waves in 14 ways when
S2: it comes to studying the Bible and looking at the Bible,
S2: what way have we utilized today that allows us to
S2: see the full embodiment of workers or laborers for the
S2: harvest field, as both proclamation and compassion? What are we
S2: doing there that you would cheer for?
S8: Well, I think, you know, first of all, I see repetition.
S8: If you look at that last verse, it says harvest
S8: three times. So whenever something is repeated multiple times, you
S8: always want to pay attention to that, because it could
S8: have easily been summarized just once rather than repeatedly. So
S8: clearly we see this heart of compassion being determined as
S8: he's looking out at the harvest. They're ready for again
S8: the workers to harvest the crop, as it were. And
S8: so that repetition of harvest really sets the geographical background
S8: for what really sets up this proclamation compassion combination.
S2: That's beautiful coming up here. Straight ahead. More with Doctor
S2: Jim Coakley 14 Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible. My
S2: own bride says this book has single handedly transformed her
S2: reading of the scriptures in ways she couldn't have imagined.
S2: What's in it? Hang on.
S1: You're listening to Curl and Crew on Moody Radio.
S2: Transformational tools. Tools that God gives us. Ultimately, the Word
S2: of God is the ultimate tool. It's the this is
S2: the bread of life. And from these words we find transformation.
S2: But tools can help us understand when we dig into
S2: it what we're looking for. Doctor Jim Coakley, my guest
S2: right now, dear friend, incredible author of the book 14
S2: Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible. What motivated you, Jim,
S2: to get this book written?
S8: Well, I think it was my own Bible reading. I mean,
S8: I had gone to Bible college, I'd gone to seminary,
S8: did doctoral work, but I still felt like I wasn't
S8: really getting into the word like I wanted to. Of course,
S8: I was getting the information. I could do all sorts
S8: of Bible trivia. I had Bible memory verses, but there
S8: was just something about that I wasn't seeing what I
S8: thought the author was trying to get me to focus on.
S8: And so I was hearing lots of information, but I
S8: was more concerned. How can I get to the heartbeat
S8: of what the biblical authors, both human and divine, are
S8: trying to say to me? And that's when I began
S8: to kind of say, well, what kind of techniques do
S8: all good communicators use to convey what they're really interested
S8: in talking about.
S2: Whether speaking or writing.
S8: Whether speaking or writing. And so all of a sudden,
S8: I found that there's these little tricks and tips and
S8: techniques that all good communicators use. And so it all
S8: started with the concept of looking at when a Bible
S8: character is introduced, look at their first words, their first actions,
S8: and any physical descriptor, because that's what we call indirect characterization. Now,
S8: I've never been literarily trained, but I just realized that
S8: I'm a consumer, just like everyone else is in our
S8: audience of good film, good literature, and to realize that
S8: all good communicators use this technique because they can't spill
S8: out everything about a character. So they have to show
S8: us rather than tell us.
S2: Make that technique super simple. What's it mean?
S8: What's that mean is, when an author is introducing a character,
S8: they are going to be selective in what they want
S8: the reader or the viewer to watch. And that's going
S8: to be a very important kind of character trait that's
S8: going to follow that individual the rest of the way.
S2: So repetition.
S8: Repetition, but also it's the notion of first words again, speech.
S8: What is it that we first see this character saying, uh,
S8: also too, along with what labels, what character labels are given,
S8: how do we see them? Do we see them as
S8: an occupation? Do we see them in familiar language? Do
S8: we see them as an ethnic label? And all of
S8: a sudden I'm paying attention to the the ways that
S8: authors can communicate about a character without necessarily. In a sense,
S8: telegraphing it. But we get to experience it. I'm getting
S8: ready for speaking next week at Maranatha Camp for Moody. Week.
S8: And this is the 50th anniversary of the movie jaws. Okay, so.
S2: Oh, boy.
S8: How.
S2: And I'm getting old.
S8: Yeah, I know, I'm getting old too. But one of
S8: the main characters is a guy by the name of Quint. Okay. Okay.
S8: And so I'm looking at the movie. How was he
S8: first introduced? Because he's going to be a main character.
S8: He's the one who helps to hunt down the shark
S8: and everything else. But the first scene we see him doing,
S8: the town is all gathered together, and they're all squabbling about,
S8: you know, they shut down the beach because the shark attack.
S8: And you see this guy sitting on a chair, and
S8: he scratches the chalkboard in a classroom with his fingernails.
S8: So again, how irritating is that? The first thing we
S8: see this guy doing is scratching a chalkboard. And he
S8: also speaks very uncouth. And so what that's telling us
S8: is that this guy is nonconformist. He's a little bit cantankerous.
S8: He's an irritant, but he's the guy that's going to
S8: be used to, in a sense, hunt down this, you know,
S8: great white shark. And so it's showing us without telling
S8: us that that's what his character is going to be
S8: like the rest of the way. And sure enough, as
S8: you watch the rest of the film, he portrays that
S8: character out very well in every scene.
S2: Okay, so let's camp out here. Give me an example
S2: of that in Scripture. Opening scene. How it sets the tone.
S8: Yeah. You think of Moses. Okay. The first thing we
S8: see him doing is as an adult, because of course,
S8: we we know he's growing up in Pharaoh's court. But
S8: the first action that we see Moses doing is when
S8: he sees a, you know, Hebrew or a pharaoh hitting
S8: an Egyptian slave, I mean, a an Egyptian taskmaster. And
S8: so looking this way and that, so we see fear.
S8: He hits and kills the Egyptian and hides him in
S8: the sand. So we see, first of all, that he's
S8: a man of compassion. We talked about compassion earlier. Uh,
S8: here we see a character trait of Moses. The first
S8: thing we see him doing is he has compassion upon
S8: his fellow Hebrews. But the first actions is he has
S8: also got anger. And so we see that trait, compassion,
S8: which also mixed with anger. And so both of those
S8: traits are going to characterize Moses the rest of the way.
S8: He's a man of compassion, but also too, he is
S8: a man that has anger issues. So paying attention to
S8: his first actions, you know, and the first words come
S8: out to the next day when he sees two Hebrews
S8: fighting together. First words that come out of Moses mouth,
S8: why are you hitting your fellow Egyptians, fellow Hebrew? So
S8: we see this man who's justice oriented, associated with the law.
S8: So right from the start, that introduction of compassion and anger,
S8: but also justice orientation is really a perfect introduction to Moses,
S8: the character, The rest of the way in the Bible.
S2: 30s. Why in the world do you want someone to
S2: read this book? Give them your passion.
S8: Well, the idea is, I think we have the standard
S8: process of, you know, observation, interpretation, application. But what I
S8: found the missing link was and often people's lives is
S8: they don't really know what to look for when they
S8: do the observation stage. So really this is that observation stage,
S8: skill building kind of book that will help them with that.
S2: Tremendously awesome. Guys, I want you to grab this. We
S2: don't directly promote just books here. We try to give
S2: away free resources, but on occasion we'll say this is
S2: the one you need to consider getting 14 fresh waves
S2: to enjoy the Bible. Text the word fresh to 800
S2: 555 7898. Text the word fresh to 800 555 7898.
S2: At least get a look at it. One thing for sure,
S2: you can check out on most links and sites. You
S2: can see a first chapter for free. Scope it out,
S2: see if this is for you. Text fresh to 800
S2: 555 7898. Jim I love you brother. Thank you for
S2: being with us today.
S8: Oh, you're so welcome. Blessings on you and our listeners.
S2: Coming up here in a moment. Chris Martin, who in
S2: the world is this guy, and how in the world
S2: does he have a clearinghouse of resources that over a
S2: million people have tapped? Details coming up.
S1: Your shot of hope to help you through the day.
S1: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
S2: Let's talk with my son. He's got a startup in Miami,
S2: and he said, dad, for your staff there at church
S2: and even what's going on at Moody Radio? You got
S2: to find these young, fire breathing, run through the wall
S2: kind of guys. And I'm like, yeah, and they could
S2: be guys. That's my kind of universal term for guys
S2: and gals. But we got a very serious dude who
S2: runs through walls, and I've got him with me right now.
S2: How's that for an intro, Chris Martin?
S9: I'll take it. I'll take it. I run through walls that.
S9: I suppose that could be a good thing or a
S9: bad thing. I try to run through walls constructively, more
S9: than destructively.
S2: Yes, running through walls is a metaphor for willing to get.
S9: Right.
S2: Get done what you got to get done. And it's
S2: great to have you on this team here. For anyone
S2: that's kind of new to you, Chris, I'm going to
S2: let you give your own bio because I don't know
S2: what in the world kind of hats you're wearing right now.
S2: What's going on in your life?
S9: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So first, I'm a husband and dad.
S9: I'm a husband to Susie and father to Maggie and Daisy.
S9: Five and one and a half and, uh, yeah, my
S9: family and I, we live outside Nashville, and we've been
S9: there for a number of years. But I get to
S9: serve here at Moody Global Media and Moody Radio as
S9: the director of content. So I get to oversee everything
S9: we're doing on the air and how we're serving listeners,
S9: like everyone listening today. And I also get to help,
S9: you know, we're doing this thing kind of alongside what
S9: we're doing with Moody Radio and yourself and others. We're
S9: kind of building up some more online content. So we're
S9: trying to develop more podcasts. We're developing more videos for
S9: YouTube because that's I mean, it's the biggest website in
S9: the world. Virtually. Yes. And so we're just trying to
S9: do a lot of work to serve people wherever they
S9: want to be helped in taking their next steps in
S9: their walk with Christ, whether it's on the air, listening
S9: in their car, on their phone, or whether they're accessing
S9: stuff through Facebook, YouTube or the internet generally. So I'm
S9: trying to help serve you all and what you're doing
S9: on air, as well as develop some new content for
S9: the internet.
S2: Yesterday we had callers, we had the phone lines wide
S2: open here, and people were just flooding us with all
S2: kinds of tools of transformation. That's what we're tackling all
S2: week long. We'll get to your side hustle called Bible
S2: to Life in a moment. But the the cool thing, Chris,
S2: is how many people are truly impacted by Moody Radio
S2: and the fact that you want to expand this into
S2: more of a digital realm, especially with video. You're you've
S2: got plans for that, even for the morning show right here.
S2: Don't you?
S9: Totally. Yeah. I mean, we we would love for this
S9: morning show and actually believe that sometime in the, in
S9: the next number of months. If not, you know, at
S9: least within this next year, but certainly in the next
S9: number of months, we want this morning show to go
S9: beyond the bounds of radio. We want you guys to
S9: continue to thrive and serve everyone who's listening today. But
S9: we want to serve people who maybe don't listen to
S9: the radio on a daily basis, but they do watch
S9: YouTube shorts or they listen to podcasts, which I know
S9: you guys have got the show cast and plenty of
S9: people listen there, but I believe to get a little
S9: wonky here for a second, short form video on the
S9: internet is one of the most important forms of media
S9: I've seen in my 12 plus years working in in
S9: digital media. More people are consuming TikToks, Instagram Reels, YouTube
S9: shorts than any form of content I've ever seen. The
S9: share of attention, if you think of it that way,
S9: the share of attention going to 30, 60, 92nd two
S9: minute videos is incredibly high. And to me, as someone
S9: who wants to take all the resources we have generously
S9: been given here at Moody Radio and Moody Global Media,
S9: through through generous donors, through the people who give their
S9: time and efforts through working here. I want to say,
S9: how can we reach as many people with the gospel
S9: as possible? That makes me ask and think, hmm, well,
S9: where are people's eyes and ears? Insanely increasing number of
S9: people's eyes and ears are on short form video. And
S9: I want to take what you guys are doing, the
S9: ministry you're doing through Carl and crew in the morning show,
S9: and get that to people whose ears may never open
S9: up to radio, but who are scrolling these apps all
S9: the time. And I think that's a you know, I
S9: was talking with a guy who leads our digital content efforts.
S9: His name is Sean, and he said, he said, man,
S9: this year, in the next 12 months or so, I
S9: want us to be posting 100 videos a week, 100
S9: videos a week. Right now we're probably doing about 7
S9: or 8, maybe ten. And so we just want to
S9: significantly increase the ministry we're doing in places where people's
S9: attention is rapidly increasing.
S2: Yeah, it's so beautiful. What do you think? The blue
S2: sky is so blue ocean on me here. A little
S2: big time vision. What do you think can happen? I
S2: know that the goal of Mark job is to double
S2: our impact. We might be going way beyond that.
S9: Oh, yeah? Yeah. Moody Global Media wants to. Right now,
S9: we think, you know, estimates can be kind of tough,
S9: especially with radio. It's actually a little bit easier on
S9: digital where you can track views or people who are engaging.
S9: But we want to be reaching 100 million people a
S9: week with the gospel. You know, our core of who
S9: we are is we want to help people take their
S9: next steps in their in their walk with Christ by
S9: giving them tools like you're talking about here, by serving
S9: them through the morning show, all of our national programming
S9: throughout the day, as well as through other tools like
S9: we're developing right now. We want to be serving 100
S9: million people a week, and right now, we estimate we're
S9: probably serving about 44 million people a week. So we're
S9: we're doing we're doing great. We're serving more people than
S9: we ever have. And we really think that by opening
S9: up these digital avenues of communication and media, that we
S9: can get to that 100 million people a week. Number.
S9: Within the next number of years.
S2: Dynamite. And I just want to tell you. Boom crew.
S2: This guy, Chris Martin, he's the real deal. This guy
S2: loves the Lord deeply. And it gives me great hope
S2: for the future man of our nation, of the world
S2: and the gospel going forward. Okay, a little side hustle
S2: you have. It's called Bible to Life. Tell us all
S2: about it. Talk about tools that transform. First off, how
S2: many hits are you getting a month on this site?
S9: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I used to just for anyone listening,
S9: I used to work at Moody Publishers for a number
S9: of years before I came over here to Moody Radio
S9: and Moody Global Media, and when I was at Moody Publishers,
S9: they said, hey, you know, we understand the importance of digital.
S9: We recognize people aren't reading books as much as they
S9: used to. What if we took bits and pieces of
S9: our books and chopped them up, you know, took a
S9: chapter here or a part of a chapter here, and
S9: we put them on the internet for people who are
S9: googling for spiritual questions or biblical questions about, you know,
S9: where's my dog go when it dies? Or does God
S9: love me even if I lie sometimes? You know, they're
S9: asking questions like this to Google more than they're asking
S9: to pastors or parents. Which is sad. But rather than
S9: just weeping over that, we can also step in and say,
S9: how can we help? What can we do for people
S9: who are asking Google these kinds of questions? So we
S9: developed this website called Bible to Life, which is taking
S9: trusted Moody Publishers resources as well as articles written by
S9: friends of Moody Bible Institute and Moody Radio. And we
S9: are getting in the last 12 months. So since June
S9: of last year, we've had about 3.1 million people view
S9: about 4.4 million articles. So. So 3.1 million people are
S9: coming to the site per year now. And it's it's
S9: rapidly growing. We're getting people from all over the world.
S9: People are looking for Bible verses to encourage them. They're
S9: looking for every year we do a big post of, hey,
S9: if you know, in January, want to start reading the
S9: Bible for the first time, here are a few Bible
S9: reading plans. That's always one of our most popular articles.
S9: So when you're talking about tools and giving people tools
S9: to help follow Christ and become more like Jesus, this
S9: is exactly the kind of thing we're trying to do here.
S9: Bible tell your joke. It's a it's a side hustle.
S9: It's actually it is a ministry of Moody Global Media
S9: that I just do with a few hours, a month
S9: of my time. And our hope is over the course
S9: of the next couple of years, and our efforts to
S9: serve people on the internet more in some more robust ways,
S9: is that Bible to life can become even more than
S9: what it currently is. But about 3 million people a
S9: year are being served by it, and we're grateful for that.
S9: And we're hopeful that that people are taking their next
S9: steps with Jesus with it.
S2: So, Chris, the website Bible to life.com.
S9: That's right. That's right. Bible Life.com you can go there
S9: and there's a there's a web page for new visitors.
S9: If you've never been there before, it'll tell you how
S9: to use it. If it's a bit confusing, there's also
S9: a weekly email. We don't send a ton of email.
S9: We won't spam you. But once a week I send
S9: out a collection of popular articles from the week if
S9: you would rather get an email. I know a lot
S9: of folks prefer that rather than going to a site
S9: and looking for things.
S2: Yeah, I love it. Okay, I'm going to put you
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S2: acid free highlighter on. Honestly, this is the best highlighter
S2: ever because most highlighters bleed through multiple pages of scripture. Yeah,
S2: it's kind of funny, I know, but it's a really
S2: good tool that helps transform my life because I get
S2: to highlight scriptures in a good old fashioned hard copy Bible.
S2: What resource has most impacted you spiritually lately?
S9: Oh man. Most impacted me spiritually lately. Resources. So I, um,
S9: I've been brushing up on catching up on C.S. Lewis.
S9: So when I was in college, like a lot of
S9: people probably, I read a lot of C.S. Lewis for
S9: the first time, I read Mere Christianity. You know, I
S9: read the hits, I read Mere Christianity, I read Screwtape Letters,
S9: I read Narnia, but I didn't go beyond to a
S9: bunch of his other works. And so this spring, I've
S9: been kind of remedying that. So I read The Abolition
S9: of Man. I read letters to Malcolm chiefly on prayer.
S9: I read The Weight of Glory. So I've read some
S9: of his work. So good. Yeah, I've read some of
S9: his works that aren't quite as well known. And man,
S9: Letters to Malcolm, chiefly on Prayer, which I think is
S9: the last book he ever published. Tremendous resource on And
S9: helping me reflect on my prayer life, my corporate worship life,
S9: and how I view the corporate worship experience. Just this week, actually,
S9: I wrote in my newsletter. I think Lewis has a
S9: great point in there, talking about how we're often tempted
S9: to pray as we think we ought, rather than pray
S9: as we actually are. And I don't think there's a
S9: lot of ways that we can fumble our prayers and
S9: coming before the Lord. But I think our kind of
S9: admittance ticket is simply being ourselves, rather than being someone
S9: we think we should be. And I think if there's
S9: any way we can truly fumble coming before the Lord
S9: in prayer, it's by thinking that we ought to come
S9: a certain way rather than come as we are. And
S9: I think Lewis just has a great point on that.
S9: So Letters to Malcolm chiefly on prayer would be my
S9: tool that I recommend.
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S2: Bible to life. Com Chris Martin thanks for ducking in
S2: here man.