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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Welcome to another edition of the duly noted podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not far away from where you go to a week.

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<v Speaker 3>That'll be after the first game and of course then

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<v Speaker 3>we'll do a kind of a wrap up of the

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<v Speaker 3>things that happen including the Florida game and then a

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<v Speaker 3>look ahead on Thursdays so it'll be Tuesday Thursday. So anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>But right now I know everybody I got a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of really nice e-mails from people that were really happy

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<v Speaker 3>to see the podcast back and text messages as well.

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<v Speaker 3>You may sense a little bit of excitement in my

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<v Speaker 3>voice and a lot of it has to do with

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that TV Times were announced for several of

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<v Speaker 3>Florida's games and it did feel like again another step forward.

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<v Speaker 3>I it could all blow up. We don't know. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I'm not going to sit here and say we're

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<v Speaker 3>there's definitely gonna be football September 26. I think there

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<v Speaker 3>will be there probably will be but we don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what's going to happen. I mean shoot. Anything can happen.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm not going to get too excited but there

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<v Speaker 3>is excitement in my voice. And again we're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to go to the opening game as far as I

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<v Speaker 3>know where we're at at least the mode is that

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<v Speaker 3>we're not going to go. It makes no sense for

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<v Speaker 3>Robbie Knight to go all the way to Oxford and

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<v Speaker 3>watch a zoom call and then draw and then fly

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<v Speaker 3>back or drive back.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if we'd fly anyway. So but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>still happy that it's a new game and nobody can

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<v Speaker 4>complain because you get up in the morning you watch

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<v Speaker 4>that game and then there are other games after and

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<v Speaker 4>there are games going on. In fact Kentucky Auburn which

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<v Speaker 4>is a game I'm interested in I can now just

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<v Speaker 4>sit in my office and watch Florida play Ole Miss

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<v Speaker 4>with the sound on it and pay attention to it.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know Kentucky Auburn game will be off in

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<v Speaker 4>the peripheral. I can put that on the other TV.

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<v Speaker 4>It excites me. Hopefully we get we get there it's

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<v Speaker 4>day by day step by step.

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<v Speaker 3>But for those of you who don't know the analysis

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<v Speaker 3>a little while ago before I felt I started taping

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<v Speaker 3>this that Florida's first two games will be new in

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<v Speaker 3>games against Ole Miss Of course there and against South

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<v Speaker 3>Carolina here a little bit later in the show heat.

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<v Speaker 3>Kline is going join us. You guys know Heath. He's

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<v Speaker 3>been he was around here forever doing radio and now

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<v Speaker 3>up in South Carolina in Columbia doing radio up there

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<v Speaker 3>so we'll have him on the show to talk a

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<v Speaker 3>little about about South Carolina. Also they announce the LSU

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<v Speaker 3>game for three thirty but it's an ESPN game so

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if this has anything to do with it

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<v Speaker 4>being an ESPN game instead of a CBS game with

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that LSU continues to get gutted every day

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<v Speaker 4>on almost a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll get to that later or if it's just

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<v Speaker 3>that they have LSU on for a lot of other

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<v Speaker 3>games they announced some of the CBS games the first

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<v Speaker 3>day it'll be CBS will be Mississippi State at LSU

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<v Speaker 3>there's there's one example village you playing so we'll go

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<v Speaker 3>right into that now. I'm really this is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a surreal experience. My wife and I were talking

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<v Speaker 3>we've only seen one Florida football game together in our

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<v Speaker 3>lives in our lives gay and that was the Kentucky

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<v Speaker 3>game the year of Tebow concussion game. I did not

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<v Speaker 3>go to that. I don't want to get into the

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<v Speaker 3>reasons for it. It all worked out for the better.

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<v Speaker 3>One day I'll tell you the whole story but not

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<v Speaker 3>right to tell a story right now. But anyway I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't go to that game.

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<v Speaker 5>That was the only game I have missed.

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<v Speaker 3>Florida game since 94 four because ninety four is when

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<v Speaker 3>I quit being columnist and started writing again I could

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<v Speaker 3>being sports editor and started writing again. So my wife

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<v Speaker 3>and I have not been to a game a game

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<v Speaker 3>a watched a game either now.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're gonna watch them all this year or maybe all.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if we're gonna go to the home games.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we will. I mean we're leaning towards it

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<v Speaker 4>we're still going to be doing only zone calls but

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<v Speaker 4>I do feel like like you don't want to spend

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of money to go and maybe get one

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<v Speaker 4>paragraph of atmosphere you know. I mean the growth is

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<v Speaker 4>not going to be open in all that stuff with

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<v Speaker 4>a home game you can.

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<v Speaker 3>It's worth going and getting some atmosphere and you know

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<v Speaker 3>the social distancing and it will be there and it's

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<v Speaker 3>not like we're going to be exposed that much but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not 100 percent sure just because I still have

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still leery. You know you make it to 26

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<v Speaker 3>weeks of this crap and you don't want to blow

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<v Speaker 3>it now. So anyway we do know that just just

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<v Speaker 3>quickly some of the other games tick saying them Alabama

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<v Speaker 3>will be on the second week of the season 4

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<v Speaker 3>on CBS George Alabama. It will be an eight o'clock

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<v Speaker 3>game on October 17th. That sounds like a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking forward to that. LSU Auburn on the thirty

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<v Speaker 3>first in of course Florida George will be 330 it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's in the contract they there's no big announcement there.

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<v Speaker 3>Alabama LSU will be a six o'clock game on December 14.

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<v Speaker 5>We were I did see a great tweet from Peter

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<v Speaker 5>Byrnes talking about how the day that LSU and know

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<v Speaker 5>that I'm sorry that f that I'm sorry that Alabama

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<v Speaker 5>LSU game is the day of the third round of

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<v Speaker 5>the Masters it's also my birthday November 14th. Thank you

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<v Speaker 5>very much. All guests are welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>And can you imagine that moment when CBS goes and

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's it for the for the third round of

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<v Speaker 3>the Masters Bryce into shambo and Tiger Woods tied for

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<v Speaker 3>a lead that ought to be a great day tomorrow

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<v Speaker 3>and now we take you to LSU and Alabama I

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<v Speaker 3>mean this is surreal to think about that and exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I don't know we're going to see it but

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<v Speaker 3>it's still going to be exciting. So that's where we

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<v Speaker 3>are with the times of games and the funny thing

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<v Speaker 3>is I had written down I was doing the notes

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<v Speaker 3>for the podcast today and I had written down when

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<v Speaker 3>are we going to get the TV schedules.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I then I wrote next to it. Does

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<v Speaker 4>it really matter because look guys none of us. Well

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<v Speaker 4>not now I won't say none of us. Most of

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<v Speaker 4>us are not going to any football games this year.

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<v Speaker 3>We may go to some home games. You may go

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<v Speaker 3>to some home games. Depends on whether you're where your

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<v Speaker 3>priorities are in terms of ticket numbers and everything like

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<v Speaker 3>that whether you can get a ticket for the game.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll get into that in just a minute to but

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<v Speaker 5>for the most part we're gonna be sitting home watching football.

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<v Speaker 5>It does matter what time they're playing it okay. And

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<v Speaker 5>they can announce it on Friday. You're not having to

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<v Speaker 5>make plans to flaunt to drive up to Gainesville. Stay

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<v Speaker 5>in a hotel or go on the road only 500

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<v Speaker 5>tickets available for the school to distribute for 4 road games.

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<v Speaker 5>You're not going to Oxford gay you know so they

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<v Speaker 5>get it. They could have waited till Friday to announce

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<v Speaker 5>outside game would've gone right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll set the alarm for 11:00. I'll sleep until 11:00.

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<v Speaker 5>Get up have some breakfast and watch the Gators play

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<v Speaker 5>Ole Miss to open the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I will say this this this this discuss this

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<v Speaker 2>real quickly and then we'll take our first break which

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<v Speaker 2>we always take around this time.

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<v Speaker 4>The fact that the game is a new game means

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<v Speaker 4>it's eleven o'clock game out there. That's never good when

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<v Speaker 4>you're the visiting team. But a lot of coaches love it.

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<v Speaker 4>They love to get that game done. Get back. You

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<v Speaker 4>know if that that plane will pull out of Oxford

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<v Speaker 4>Mississippi Eastern time around I don't know five thirty six o'clock.

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<v Speaker 5>You may be home in time to see the eight

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<v Speaker 5>o'clock games or nine o'clock games anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So in that part of it is good.

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<v Speaker 5>But you always worry about a team going on the

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<v Speaker 5>road for an eleven o'clock game even though you're about

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<v Speaker 5>your your alarm clock its internal alarm clock is still

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<v Speaker 5>set for noon but still you have to get up

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<v Speaker 5>a breakfast and it's got you got to make sure

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<v Speaker 5>you hydrate and get everything done.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're dealing with all this situation obviously and you're

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<v Speaker 4>going to be in a hotel it's gonna make you

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<v Speaker 4>a little nervous too so you get the nerves starting

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<v Speaker 4>the season the nerves of staying in a hotel which

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<v Speaker 4>usually you kind of get out of the way because

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<v Speaker 4>you stay in a hotel for camp but they're not

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<v Speaker 4>doing that this year and you know that I will

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<v Speaker 4>say this that game is kind of ripe for an upset.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody knows what Lane Kiffin is going to throw at

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<v Speaker 4>him but I think the Florida team is really good

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<v Speaker 4>and we will be talking about that more as we

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<v Speaker 4>go along.

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<v Speaker 3>All the things we're hearing from and last night there

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<v Speaker 3>was a zoom call with Todd Grantham a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>defensive players which is great. Glad Florida's doing that.

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<v Speaker 5>I did ask them a lot about that last week

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<v Speaker 5>that I thought we needed to get to that point.

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<v Speaker 5>People need to hear from the players. And so I

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<v Speaker 5>thought it was great.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you hear everybody who talks about this team

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<v Speaker 4>they want this day in Mullin or are now Todd

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<v Speaker 4>Grantham and I think Wednesday we get Brian Johnson as well.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all positive positive positive. Now I've always said this

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<v Speaker 4>is one of my many sayings I got to write

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<v Speaker 4>these down in a book one day. One of my

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<v Speaker 4>many sayings is the only news that can come out

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<v Speaker 4>of pre-season camp is bad news. You're never gonna get

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<v Speaker 4>good news because you don't know if it's true or not.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not allowed out there. Nobody's allowed out there except

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<v Speaker 4>you know the players and and the staff and the

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<v Speaker 4>trainers and stuff. So for all we know Kyle Pitts

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<v Speaker 4>has dropped every pass he's been thrown. They can say

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<v Speaker 4>he's caught everything and he's making circus catches. We don't

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<v Speaker 4>know that. We assume that they're telling us the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also wonder if coaches are a little more

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm trying to think of the right word effusive

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<v Speaker 4>in their praise because you don't want guys opting out

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<v Speaker 4>and you don't want to you know remember the guy

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<v Speaker 4>last year was a Blige who was a starter an

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<v Speaker 4>offensive line and he quit as after the Georgia game right.

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<v Speaker 4>He quit. And the reason he quit apparently was because

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<v Speaker 4>he was tired of getting yelled at me hard to

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<v Speaker 4>yell at guys man. I don't know if they're having

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<v Speaker 4>to adjust their coaching style because also the guy goes

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<v Speaker 4>That's it I'm opting out. I wonder how. So again

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a a worry about what the coaches say and

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<v Speaker 4>how good these guys are doing. We'll find out in

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<v Speaker 4>a while. Right. If they start playing games we'll take

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<v Speaker 4>a break. By the way it should be game week

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<v Speaker 4>this week we should be sitting here talking about the

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<v Speaker 4>first game if none of this had happened.

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<v Speaker 3>We'd be talking about the opening game but it's still

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to talk about a lot of other games

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of other things that are going on

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<v Speaker 3>and certainly what is going on around the country in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of players opting out. I do have three things

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<v Speaker 3>ready for you. We will get Heath Cline on here and.

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<v Speaker 3>OK so let's take a break. We'll do that. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to the duly noted podcast. Okay so now

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<v Speaker 4>that we know some of the game times and we

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<v Speaker 4>also know that Kansas and wall and Wake Forest and

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<v Speaker 4>decided no fans at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I wrote about this in my back nine.

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<v Speaker 10>If you didn't see it I talked to Scott Stricklin

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<v Speaker 10>on Monday about why Florida has not announced or ticket policy.

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<v Speaker 5>And basically you know he said I don't want to

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<v Speaker 5>have to walk something back. Said we we don't know

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<v Speaker 5>we want to wait and see what happens with the

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<v Speaker 5>students coming back for a few weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens with Labor Day a few days after Labor Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have a spike there.

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<v Speaker 4>What happens when we watch the NFL Play. College football

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<v Speaker 4>is cranking up. I mean I know there was a

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<v Speaker 4>game on Saturday and I watched it believe me but

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<v Speaker 4>college football's cranked up a little bit more. It's almost

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<v Speaker 4>like a like an engine that you're the first time

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<v Speaker 4>you turn it it doesn't do anything and the second

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<v Speaker 4>time you turn a car. And then the third week

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<v Speaker 4>it earned rent a room a room and then by

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<v Speaker 4>the fourth week it's either. That's where we are with

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<v Speaker 4>college football. They want to see what happens with those

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<v Speaker 4>games and what happens in the aftermath of those games.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure look they've got seventy five percent of the tickets

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<v Speaker 4>that were sold season tickets were sold. People have not

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<v Speaker 4>cashed in refunds or asked for it to be held

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<v Speaker 4>for next year. They're saying we're at work. We're good

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<v Speaker 4>with it. We'll wait and see like you. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>where Florida is flying. Florida is doing the smart thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the FCC has been the smart one. I

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<v Speaker 4>think Florida's been even one of the smarter teams and

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<v Speaker 4>I think they have a very smart HD and that's

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<v Speaker 4>why they're saying oh wait wait. In a few weeks

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<v Speaker 4>we'll let you know how many people we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>let in there and I will tell you that a

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<v Speaker 4>zero attendance is not off the board.

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<v Speaker 5>If there is if it's bad enough Spike wise you

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<v Speaker 5>know to predicate that I don't think it's it's off

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<v Speaker 5>the board. I don't think that'll happen. I think if

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<v Speaker 5>Florida feels like the FCC feels like things have gotten

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<v Speaker 5>really bad again they will be more likely to cancel

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<v Speaker 5>the season than to have no fans that's just my gut.

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean we'll see what happens because we we're

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<v Speaker 5>seeing it around the country and again not a.

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<v Speaker 4>Not only that but the financial situations for everybody just

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<v Speaker 4>continue to hear bet you hear bad news stories and

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<v Speaker 4>this is part of the the issue that I think

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<v Speaker 4>everybody is dealing with is Texas cut a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>people I think they had 40 people a laid off

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<v Speaker 4>and 40 more vacant jobs are not going to fill

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<v Speaker 4>and made everybody take a pay cut if they made

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<v Speaker 4>more than 30000 Texas Tech cut a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 4>we've already seen other schools cut a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 4>I feel for man they didn't do anything wrong they

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<v Speaker 4>just you know again this goes back to what I've

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<v Speaker 4>talked about before the more money college athletic departments make

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<v Speaker 4>the more they spend and sometimes there is there is

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<v Speaker 4>definitely a lot of fat it's not that hard to

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<v Speaker 4>cut but it's not that doesn't make it easier for

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<v Speaker 4>the people who are being cut they now are part

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<v Speaker 4>of the unemployment generation which we've just come out of

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<v Speaker 4>nowhere and had to deal with.

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<v Speaker 5>So we'll see what happens there. Interesting today right before

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<v Speaker 5>I came in here to do this is that Donald

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<v Speaker 5>Trump in the Big Ten talk today. And Trump is

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<v Speaker 5>trying to get them to play trying to find a

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<v Speaker 5>way for them to play.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know we'll get more tests here we'll get

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<v Speaker 4>rapid testing to all this stuff look And look I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not going to say this is a right thing wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to get too political list but this

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<v Speaker 4>is a political move. We all know it is he

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<v Speaker 4>wants to win the state of Ohio. He's talking to

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<v Speaker 4>the Pac 12 about this right. He went to California

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<v Speaker 4>you know. So there is a reason behind this but

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<v Speaker 4>I hope I hope it works from that aspect of

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<v Speaker 4>it certainly that the Big Ten finally sees here their ways.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know the Big Ten has screwed this up

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<v Speaker 4>totally and then the story about maybe we'll start on Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 4>Look no matter what they do unless they come and

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<v Speaker 4>play with everybody else and I'm not saying it's right

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<v Speaker 4>to play with everybody else. Please let me be clear

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<v Speaker 4>about that. All I'm saying is the way they have

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<v Speaker 4>handled it from a PR standpoint and from a lack

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<v Speaker 4>of transparency standpoint when all of a sudden just now

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<v Speaker 4>we found out what the vote was it was 11

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<v Speaker 4>3 on the are not to play. OK. What are

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<v Speaker 4>you going to said that that day. They have not

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<v Speaker 4>done a very good job. I'm not saying they're wrong

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<v Speaker 4>not to play. We'll find out. And I'm I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>even if the FCC and HCC and big will fly

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<v Speaker 4>through the season with no problems that still doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily they were wrong to cancel they had their reasons

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<v Speaker 4>and that's fine.

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<v Speaker 11>But they just have look come and. And of course

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<v Speaker 11>the PAC clubs out there going No doo doo doo

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<v Speaker 11>doo doo doo.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey man these waves are going to be narrowly today.

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<v Speaker 12>Are they playing football.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the Pac twelve has been way more embarrassing

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<v Speaker 4>than the Big Ten the Big Ten has been proactive

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<v Speaker 4>and done a lot of things and and and thought

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<v Speaker 4>they could maybe bully the other Congresses into not playing

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<v Speaker 4>so they wouldn't look bad and didn't work the PAC

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<v Speaker 4>well just like oh whatever they tell us to do

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<v Speaker 4>we'll do theirs. It's silly out there. Look I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>If I was in the Pac twelve I would probably

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<v Speaker 4>make the same decision as many hot spots as they

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<v Speaker 4>have I get it but you can't act like you're

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<v Speaker 4>only going to do with the Big Ten says and

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<v Speaker 4>there's now there's talk about them totally change in the

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<v Speaker 4>conference changing all the dynamics Hey to get Larry Scott out.

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<v Speaker 10>That's first thing but that's not my problem. Obviously I

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<v Speaker 10>tell you what we'll take a break now. We'll bring

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<v Speaker 10>in Heath Klein. We'll talk to him about the schedule

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<v Speaker 10>that came out today and of course about that Florida

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<v Speaker 10>South Carolina game the second week of the season. And

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<v Speaker 10>then when we come back we'll get into a bunch

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<v Speaker 10>of other stuff. I got tons of stuff to talk about.

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<v Speaker 10>Some sad news as well when you return because it

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<v Speaker 10>feels like I have sad news every week it really

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<v Speaker 10>is kind of I don't know if this is cause

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<v Speaker 10>I'm getting old or people I know are getting old

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<v Speaker 10>but at any rate we'll be right back with more

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<v Speaker 10>on the duly noted podcast gators more Stockholm the duly

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<v Speaker 1>We never forget that it's your money and ABC fine

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<v Speaker 1>wine and spirits always be celebrating. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the duly noted podcast a great pleasure

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<v Speaker 2>to be joined by my good friend Heath Klein of

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<v Speaker 2>course you guys remember his dulcet tones from when he

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<v Speaker 2>was doing radio around here in Gainesville and now up

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<v Speaker 2>in Columbia. Well last week we talked to Richard Cross

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about Ole Miss Florida's opening game this week

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk to him about Florida second game

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<v Speaker 2>and also all the stuff that's happened in the SCC

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<v Speaker 2>we mentioned earlier times have been released for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of games and Heath I don't know whether to be

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<v Speaker 2>excited or just kind of shove it over to the

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<v Speaker 2>corner and say well we'll get to you later.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean look everything that makes it a little bit

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<v Speaker 13>more real I guess you get excited about it a

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<v Speaker 13>bit but I mean we all kind of understand this

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<v Speaker 13>thing pivot on a on a you know any piece

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<v Speaker 13>of news any given moment. I mean like this week

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<v Speaker 13>alone we know Auburn has 16 players according to Amazon

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<v Speaker 13>that wouldn't be able to participate this week. So what

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<v Speaker 13>would that look like. And we know that LSU at

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<v Speaker 13>one point last week reportedly only had four offensive linemen available.

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<v Speaker 13>So it all sounds awesome but then what's it going

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<v Speaker 13>to be like when we get to the point where

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<v Speaker 13>there's not enough time for that to resolve itself before

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<v Speaker 13>a game supposed to get played. You know there's some

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<v Speaker 13>time to move it back. But the SCC by putting

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<v Speaker 13>it on the 26 they made the smart call and

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<v Speaker 13>the idea that they'll let everybody else go first and

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<v Speaker 13>if they have disastrous to the SCC could say well

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<v Speaker 13>we we listen to science and we saw what happened

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<v Speaker 13>and we got out after all. But at the same

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<v Speaker 13>time they've given themselves very little room to move if

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<v Speaker 13>there's problems. So now you see around the conference so

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<v Speaker 13>these issues have popped up already and you do kind

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<v Speaker 13>of say hey for all of us take what we

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<v Speaker 13>can get enjoyed the best we can.

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<v Speaker 14>But this is this is going to be a screwy

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<v Speaker 14>season and we just have to accept that you know

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<v Speaker 14>when time is at Tennessee South Carolina game slated for

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<v Speaker 14>right now I don't have evidence from that game. Yeah

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<v Speaker 14>they went 730 on that one. I'm sorry. I'll be

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<v Speaker 14>able to sit back and watch that and obviously we're

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<v Speaker 14>not going to go to Ole Miss.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we're not we're not out of our minds

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<v Speaker 2>so that that's good if we get to that point

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<v Speaker 2>but obviously for four it's pretty it's a pretty tough

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<v Speaker 2>opening two games within the division for well most champ

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<v Speaker 2>having to play Tennessee and then the mighty gators.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah and that you have game really will have a

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<v Speaker 13>lot of emphasis on it because you look at it

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<v Speaker 13>for South Carolina in a lot of ways the last

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<v Speaker 13>two years are defined by the U.S. game last year

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<v Speaker 13>after they had Florida down really felt like was a

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<v Speaker 13>game they should have won and clearly got hosed was

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<v Speaker 13>not a penalty that should have been called. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 13>explain why the run was successful but still I mean

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<v Speaker 13>the guy literally stood up before the FCC didn't call

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<v Speaker 13>him and it winds up being a huge run for

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<v Speaker 13>Florida they'd never seem to quite recover mentally from that.

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<v Speaker 13>The rest of the year there were other factors too.

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<v Speaker 13>Lenski got beaten up and he's trying to play the

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<v Speaker 13>quarterback role as a true freshman the SCC which is

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<v Speaker 13>hard enough already and there's a lot of reasons things

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<v Speaker 13>went wrong. But yeah you think about how different much

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<v Speaker 13>Jeff's season is perceived the year before if they finish

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<v Speaker 13>the job against Florida and Philippe Franks resurrection game and

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<v Speaker 13>then you think about last year and that they were

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<v Speaker 13>really starting to make some headway there coming off the

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<v Speaker 13>Georgia win and how that changed the mood that Florida

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<v Speaker 13>game early on. That's what you feel like all right

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<v Speaker 13>you aren't that far away from this team. You've competed

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<v Speaker 13>with them in the fourth quarter each of the last

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<v Speaker 13>two years. Can you actually find a way to pull

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<v Speaker 13>one out against them because of the five teams on

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<v Speaker 13>their schedule that are in the top 13. Well that's

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<v Speaker 13>the one unless you count Georgia which again Georgia was

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<v Speaker 13>such a weird situation last year it was very weird

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<v Speaker 13>bizarre game that they won that game but for feeling

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<v Speaker 13>like you're close to somebody in that group of five

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<v Speaker 13>that are in the top 13 in the preseason poll

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<v Speaker 13>Ford is clearly the one that you've shown you're closest

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<v Speaker 13>to so can you do something with it finally.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously South Carolina got bad news with losing a running

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<v Speaker 2>back obviously was a freshman women again. We don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how good he would have been this year but they

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<v Speaker 2>were excited about it.

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<v Speaker 13>Pat Riley It was the most hype I'd heard on

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<v Speaker 13>tailback since Lattimore and that includes to get a guy

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<v Speaker 13>like Mike Davis who had a pretty nice career is

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<v Speaker 13>in the NFL now and some other good players have

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<v Speaker 13>come through. They really thought they had something with light

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<v Speaker 13>and maybe they will but for this year he's out.

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<v Speaker 13>And so that that was a big blow they've had

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<v Speaker 13>almost no injuries they've had almost no covert issues but

0:26:08.753 --> 0:26:11.173
<v Speaker 13>it's well must champ. So if you're going to have

0:26:11.173 --> 0:26:14.143
<v Speaker 13>bad luck it's gonna be the most important possible spot

0:26:14.143 --> 0:26:15.213
<v Speaker 13>you can have it.

0:26:15.493 --> 0:26:17.653
<v Speaker 2>And that is he has when I call like to

0:26:17.653 --> 0:26:20.173
<v Speaker 2>call Zook look which is he just can't seem to

0:26:20.173 --> 0:26:23.443
<v Speaker 2>catch breaks a lot of times. And for example I'll

0:26:23.503 --> 0:26:26.293
<v Speaker 2>give you the Florida game last year where they just

0:26:26.293 --> 0:26:29.023
<v Speaker 2>beat Georgia and had a lot of momentum going and

0:26:29.053 --> 0:26:32.903
<v Speaker 2>what do they get a hurricane that comes through dampens

0:26:32.903 --> 0:26:36.043
<v Speaker 2>the crowd. They still play really well early and take

0:26:36.043 --> 0:26:38.653
<v Speaker 2>that lead and and then not only on the on

0:26:38.953 --> 0:26:41.683
<v Speaker 2>the one play that were for the touchdown by Damian

0:26:41.683 --> 0:26:44.113
<v Speaker 2>Pierce but they also got a touchdown where there was

0:26:44.113 --> 0:26:48.543
<v Speaker 2>a clear pick. Florida did Yep it was it was textbook.

0:26:48.563 --> 0:26:51.703
<v Speaker 2>They've they show this to the referees and go Here's

0:26:51.703 --> 0:26:54.253
<v Speaker 2>where you put the flag and they didn't. So let's look.

0:26:54.253 --> 0:26:56.973
<v Speaker 2>Florida fans aren't complaining. They feel like they get jobs

0:26:57.013 --> 0:27:00.313
<v Speaker 2>all the time too. But that was where you just

0:27:00.313 --> 0:27:02.743
<v Speaker 2>feel like the most champ look came back to to

0:27:02.743 --> 0:27:05.863
<v Speaker 2>beat him and you wonder with a guy like that

0:27:05.863 --> 0:27:10.653
<v Speaker 2>if if he just star crossed all the time he

0:27:10.663 --> 0:27:13.053
<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem to be the luckiest guy in the world.

0:27:13.083 --> 0:27:17.083
<v Speaker 13>That's for sure. But having said that this year he

0:27:17.083 --> 0:27:19.483
<v Speaker 13>has in a weird way had some luck because the

0:27:19.483 --> 0:27:22.003
<v Speaker 13>reality is he was coming into a season where all

0:27:22.003 --> 0:27:24.883
<v Speaker 13>the pressure was on him last year nobody went to

0:27:24.883 --> 0:27:26.353
<v Speaker 13>the year thinking he was on the hot seat. He

0:27:26.353 --> 0:27:29.243
<v Speaker 13>was on any national hot seat lists or anything like that.

0:27:29.473 --> 0:27:32.023
<v Speaker 13>Then you lose your starting quarterback. You have some bad

0:27:32.023 --> 0:27:34.443
<v Speaker 13>luck there but you get the win the knock at Ben.

0:27:34.463 --> 0:27:36.283
<v Speaker 13>Well you have to beat the team those ranks that

0:27:36.343 --> 0:27:39.493
<v Speaker 13>first year with Tennessee and that's Butch Jones so that

0:27:39.493 --> 0:27:42.153
<v Speaker 13>almost doesn't count. So what do you get beat so big.

0:27:42.193 --> 0:27:46.363
<v Speaker 13>Well you beat Georgia and so it looked like everything

0:27:46.363 --> 0:27:50.143
<v Speaker 13>was still going to turn out okay. And then by

0:27:50.143 --> 0:27:52.663
<v Speaker 13>the end of the year you had the new president

0:27:52.663 --> 0:27:57.313
<v Speaker 13>talk publicly multiple times in ways that undercut much Champ's

0:27:57.403 --> 0:28:00.883
<v Speaker 13>stability you had board members saying something else. It was

0:28:01.273 --> 0:28:03.733
<v Speaker 13>it was really bad. I mean you had him in

0:28:03.733 --> 0:28:05.983
<v Speaker 13>a position where he was put twisting in the wind

0:28:06.523 --> 0:28:08.893
<v Speaker 13>which is just kind of unthinkable in the span of

0:28:08.893 --> 0:28:10.873
<v Speaker 13>about four weeks that would for that Georgia game to

0:28:10.873 --> 0:28:13.363
<v Speaker 13>that the only reason he's still there is because the

0:28:13.363 --> 0:28:16.753
<v Speaker 13>buyout will now. I mean you know the reality Pat

0:28:16.783 --> 0:28:19.753
<v Speaker 13>I mean every athletic department is taking a massive hit

0:28:19.753 --> 0:28:22.003
<v Speaker 13>this year we know how big the haircut is we

0:28:22.003 --> 0:28:24.793
<v Speaker 13>don't know yet but it's a huge one. Unless there's

0:28:24.793 --> 0:28:27.822
<v Speaker 13>some booster with money burning a hole in his pocket

0:28:27.823 --> 0:28:31.033
<v Speaker 13>to the tune of that 14 million dollars they can't

0:28:31.033 --> 0:28:33.553
<v Speaker 13>get rid of Will Muschamp this year. Not to mention

0:28:33.583 --> 0:28:36.612
<v Speaker 13>what it would say about just the overall standards of

0:28:36.613 --> 0:28:39.013
<v Speaker 13>your university priorities if somebody is willing to spend eight

0:28:39.373 --> 0:28:43.003
<v Speaker 13>plus figures to get rid of a football coach. So

0:28:43.333 --> 0:28:46.123
<v Speaker 13>he at least for this year there's gonna be some

0:28:46.123 --> 0:28:50.053
<v Speaker 13>hothead fans but for real meaningful pressure he's had it

0:28:50.053 --> 0:28:52.873
<v Speaker 13>taken off of him in a way that before it

0:28:52.993 --> 0:28:55.063
<v Speaker 13>could have been possible. So I don't think that's how

0:28:55.063 --> 0:28:57.363
<v Speaker 13>you want to get there by any stretch of the imagination.

0:28:57.613 --> 0:28:59.773
<v Speaker 13>But the idea of a you know you lose that

0:28:59.773 --> 0:29:01.813
<v Speaker 13>Tennessee game and let's start talking about who's going to

0:29:01.813 --> 0:29:05.863
<v Speaker 13>replace you. That kind of thing probably has eased and

0:29:05.863 --> 0:29:08.173
<v Speaker 13>that's pretty important for him right now because it was

0:29:08.173 --> 0:29:10.633
<v Speaker 13>setting up exactly like that point you're in Florida where

0:29:11.143 --> 0:29:14.643
<v Speaker 13>everything just was already going to the year with. OK

0:29:15.043 --> 0:29:17.413
<v Speaker 13>when are we going to have the moment where this

0:29:17.413 --> 0:29:19.153
<v Speaker 13>is over. You know what's going to happen to be

0:29:19.153 --> 0:29:21.493
<v Speaker 13>the final moment. Oh it's not the Missouri game.

0:29:21.553 --> 0:29:24.133
<v Speaker 15>How is it not the Missouri game they lost 42

0:29:24.133 --> 0:29:26.563
<v Speaker 15>to 13 and they gave up like five yards. How

0:29:26.563 --> 0:29:29.293
<v Speaker 15>did they do that. It's still is. OK. No it's

0:29:29.293 --> 0:29:29.733
<v Speaker 15>not that.

0:29:29.743 --> 0:29:32.453
<v Speaker 13>I guess it's the Georgia. We won the Georgia game.

0:29:32.513 --> 0:29:35.053
<v Speaker 13>Well OK it's the South Carolina. Well they can't lose

0:29:35.053 --> 0:29:37.513
<v Speaker 13>the South Carolina game. Oh no way to spur your

0:29:37.513 --> 0:29:40.633
<v Speaker 13>team plus two kicks. Well sure they did. Yeah. And

0:29:40.633 --> 0:29:43.123
<v Speaker 13>finally that's the end of must GAAP that whole bizarre

0:29:43.123 --> 0:29:46.453
<v Speaker 13>sequence of events there. It felt like we were headed

0:29:46.453 --> 0:29:49.563
<v Speaker 13>for that exact same thing in 2020 in South Carolina instead.

0:29:50.203 --> 0:29:52.053
<v Speaker 13>It's probably not going to be much of a story.

0:29:52.063 --> 0:29:54.973
<v Speaker 2>And for him that is like you know I think

0:29:54.973 --> 0:29:57.073
<v Speaker 2>you would have to get as a head football coach

0:29:57.073 --> 0:29:59.023
<v Speaker 2>you would have to get caught in a crack den

0:29:59.293 --> 0:30:02.053
<v Speaker 2>to get fired this year. I mean when you see

0:30:02.053 --> 0:30:05.533
<v Speaker 2>Texas and Texas Tech both laid off numerous employees in

0:30:05.533 --> 0:30:10.903
<v Speaker 2>the last two days pay cuts all around buyouts are uncommon.

0:30:10.933 --> 0:30:13.243
<v Speaker 2>You know you'd have to have a very small buyout

0:30:13.273 --> 0:30:15.973
<v Speaker 2>I think to get fired. And I agree with you

0:30:15.973 --> 0:30:18.043
<v Speaker 2>on that with well I think no matter what happens

0:30:18.043 --> 0:30:22.153
<v Speaker 2>it again I think everybody every coach should be judged

0:30:22.993 --> 0:30:26.593
<v Speaker 2>basically on the good things they do this year not

0:30:26.593 --> 0:30:28.903
<v Speaker 2>the bad things. In other words if you if you

0:30:28.903 --> 0:30:31.183
<v Speaker 2>take a stand for social justice and you keep your

0:30:31.183 --> 0:30:34.303
<v Speaker 2>team with you and you you get them you you

0:30:34.303 --> 0:30:37.343
<v Speaker 2>march like like he did and like Dan Mullen did.

0:30:37.483 --> 0:30:40.303
<v Speaker 2>If you mean is the coveted thing really well and

0:30:40.303 --> 0:30:42.643
<v Speaker 2>you handle things very well and you get your guys

0:30:42.643 --> 0:30:45.013
<v Speaker 2>ready to play and you they may not win games.

0:30:45.043 --> 0:30:47.983
<v Speaker 2>I'm just not sure there's a reason to fire anybody

0:30:48.673 --> 0:30:53.163
<v Speaker 2>that has a significant buyout anywhere this year.

0:30:53.233 --> 0:30:55.423
<v Speaker 13>The only reason I would think he could would be

0:30:55.423 --> 0:30:58.093
<v Speaker 13>if you had some coach that you knew you could

0:30:58.093 --> 0:31:01.753
<v Speaker 13>hire that you were sure you could hire and he

0:31:01.753 --> 0:31:03.883
<v Speaker 13>was just so clearly an upgrade that you were just

0:31:03.883 --> 0:31:06.253
<v Speaker 13>determined to go do it. So yeah I don't think

0:31:06.253 --> 0:31:08.383
<v Speaker 13>Bob Stoops to sit around saying that I'd love to

0:31:08.383 --> 0:31:11.123
<v Speaker 13>be coach South Carolina but if somehow he let it

0:31:11.123 --> 0:31:12.893
<v Speaker 13>be known he would take the job well then maybe

0:31:12.893 --> 0:31:15.443
<v Speaker 13>you view it differently than if you're talking about going

0:31:15.443 --> 0:31:17.903
<v Speaker 13>out and try to hire Billy Napier from Louisiana for

0:31:17.903 --> 0:31:20.573
<v Speaker 13>example or something like that. Well that's about the only

0:31:20.573 --> 0:31:22.823
<v Speaker 13>scenario it is if you either have like you say

0:31:22.853 --> 0:31:26.153
<v Speaker 13>just a total disaster you've lost the locker room everything

0:31:26.153 --> 0:31:30.443
<v Speaker 13>is chaos or if you have that that unique super

0:31:30.443 --> 0:31:33.713
<v Speaker 13>coach that is perfect for what you're looking for and

0:31:33.713 --> 0:31:35.603
<v Speaker 13>I mean that's part of why last year they couldn't

0:31:35.603 --> 0:31:37.883
<v Speaker 13>make the move the money was a huge part. But

0:31:38.303 --> 0:31:40.603
<v Speaker 13>I mean look we saw an offensive line coach get

0:31:40.613 --> 0:31:43.023
<v Speaker 13>an S.E.C. head coaching job. We saw Eli drink with

0:31:43.033 --> 0:31:47.243
<v Speaker 13>soccer one year with another guys players get a four

0:31:47.243 --> 0:31:50.153
<v Speaker 13>million dollar deal from Missouri. I mean that was just

0:31:50.153 --> 0:31:54.413
<v Speaker 13>was not high quality coaching depth to work with last

0:31:54.413 --> 0:31:56.993
<v Speaker 13>year to make hires. Arizona did not fire someone. Same

0:31:56.993 --> 0:32:00.503
<v Speaker 13>reason they could find anybody they wanted. So yeah unless

0:32:00.503 --> 0:32:03.503
<v Speaker 13>you've got that guy you're just in love with. It's

0:32:03.503 --> 0:32:05.033
<v Speaker 13>just hard to see what the point would be if

0:32:05.033 --> 0:32:07.223
<v Speaker 13>making a coaching change for most people this year.

0:32:07.443 --> 0:32:09.173
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And again this goes back to that part of

0:32:09.503 --> 0:32:12.503
<v Speaker 2>the economic model that is college football the more money

0:32:12.503 --> 0:32:16.673
<v Speaker 2>they get the more they spend. Carol quickly because I

0:32:16.673 --> 0:32:18.773
<v Speaker 2>have one other question for you too. But but Heath

0:32:19.433 --> 0:32:21.443
<v Speaker 2>what do you think of this football team this year.

0:32:21.443 --> 0:32:23.453
<v Speaker 2>How do you think it's going to. I mean I

0:32:23.453 --> 0:32:25.703
<v Speaker 2>think they're over under was like four and a half.

0:32:26.303 --> 0:32:27.183
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:32:27.653 --> 0:32:31.343
<v Speaker 13>I don't if I go over on that the number

0:32:31.343 --> 0:32:32.483
<v Speaker 13>I'd say was three and a half and I think

0:32:32.483 --> 0:32:35.603
<v Speaker 13>it's perfect because the reality is look there's there's one

0:32:35.603 --> 0:32:38.513
<v Speaker 13>game on the schedule they basically can't lose. Vanderbilt is

0:32:38.513 --> 0:32:42.413
<v Speaker 13>a disaster this year. There's an outstanding chance they go

0:32:42.413 --> 0:32:45.313
<v Speaker 13>in 10 and even in the spirit or leaves halfway

0:32:45.323 --> 0:32:48.533
<v Speaker 13>year they still beat Vanderbilt. So I just I cannot

0:32:48.533 --> 0:32:51.563
<v Speaker 13>imagine them losing to Vanderbilt at home. So you got

0:32:51.563 --> 0:32:54.683
<v Speaker 13>one that you can't lose. You got five against teams

0:32:54.683 --> 0:32:56.423
<v Speaker 13>in the top 13. You have been one of them

0:32:56.423 --> 0:33:00.203
<v Speaker 13>as well as Georgia on the road against LSU. Texas

0:33:00.213 --> 0:33:03.743
<v Speaker 13>CNN who you've not been able to make any headway with.

0:33:04.013 --> 0:33:06.773
<v Speaker 13>You know Georgia I mean you just eat Auburn you've

0:33:06.773 --> 0:33:09.013
<v Speaker 13>got games there that at least on paper you know

0:33:09.203 --> 0:33:11.633
<v Speaker 13>maybe you could steal one maybe maybe have a weird

0:33:11.633 --> 0:33:15.533
<v Speaker 13>situation where somebody is depleted and you take advantage. But

0:33:15.563 --> 0:33:17.603
<v Speaker 13>on paper going into the year it's hard to say

0:33:18.103 --> 0:33:21.113
<v Speaker 13>give you at most one of those games and that's it.

0:33:21.113 --> 0:33:23.693
<v Speaker 13>And maybe none. So then you've got four other games

0:33:23.693 --> 0:33:26.303
<v Speaker 13>that you basically have to be perfect in to get

0:33:26.303 --> 0:33:28.493
<v Speaker 13>to five hundred and that includes a road trip to

0:33:28.493 --> 0:33:30.953
<v Speaker 13>Kentucky and the final game of the year that's now

0:33:30.953 --> 0:33:33.323
<v Speaker 13>in December and you know how Kentucky can be late

0:33:33.323 --> 0:33:35.203
<v Speaker 13>this year. That could be a mighty chilly game.

0:33:35.383 --> 0:33:37.373
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of money at times. Who knows by

0:33:37.373 --> 0:33:39.113
<v Speaker 2>then what crowds are going to look like. I mean

0:33:39.113 --> 0:33:41.603
<v Speaker 2>it could be that if you do have a home

0:33:41.603 --> 0:33:44.473
<v Speaker 2>call home field advantage by then.

0:33:44.603 --> 0:33:45.923
<v Speaker 13>Yes. So I mean you got you got a road

0:33:45.923 --> 0:33:47.903
<v Speaker 13>trip to Ole Miss. Should get a Missouri home game

0:33:47.933 --> 0:33:50.453
<v Speaker 13>that you know Missouri feels pretty winnable. I'd be surprised

0:33:50.453 --> 0:33:53.123
<v Speaker 13>if they lost that one. But you know I could

0:33:53.123 --> 0:33:55.373
<v Speaker 13>buy two an eight for this team if everything goes

0:33:55.373 --> 0:33:58.733
<v Speaker 13>wrong and the games like Tennessee and Ole Miss and

0:33:58.733 --> 0:34:00.803
<v Speaker 13>I could buy you know maybe five if they can

0:34:00.803 --> 0:34:03.383
<v Speaker 13>go for one in the winnable games and then steal

0:34:03.383 --> 0:34:06.233
<v Speaker 13>the one out of the others. But but when your

0:34:06.233 --> 0:34:09.023
<v Speaker 13>high watermark is five hundred then it's hard to get

0:34:09.023 --> 0:34:12.143
<v Speaker 13>super excited about the year and for them it's really

0:34:12.143 --> 0:34:15.863
<v Speaker 13>more about can they just survive because the way the S.E.C.

0:34:15.863 --> 0:34:19.013
<v Speaker 13>has set the schedule up three of their foremost winnable

0:34:19.013 --> 0:34:22.043
<v Speaker 13>games are in their last four. So can you win

0:34:22.043 --> 0:34:24.623
<v Speaker 13>the Tennessee game in particular is gigantic because if you

0:34:24.623 --> 0:34:27.593
<v Speaker 13>don't then the only game that's not against what those

0:34:27.593 --> 0:34:30.473
<v Speaker 13>top 13 teams is the ante in week three. So

0:34:30.473 --> 0:34:32.683
<v Speaker 13>you're looking at probably being 1 in 5 2 and

0:34:32.692 --> 0:34:35.243
<v Speaker 13>4 at best if you don't beat Tennessee start the

0:34:35.243 --> 0:34:38.093
<v Speaker 13>season and then who knows where you are mentally by

0:34:38.093 --> 0:34:40.013
<v Speaker 13>the time you get to Ole Miss of Missouri and

0:34:40.013 --> 0:34:43.313
<v Speaker 13>Kentucky they're a little bit more winnable they're down the stretch.

0:34:43.313 --> 0:34:46.913
<v Speaker 14>Before I let you go across the state I'm curious

0:34:46.913 --> 0:34:49.313
<v Speaker 14>what your thought was and I always get cracked up

0:34:49.313 --> 0:34:52.073
<v Speaker 14>on national NFL guys and national guys try to talk

0:34:52.073 --> 0:34:55.163
<v Speaker 14>about college sports because they don't understand it but when

0:34:55.163 --> 0:34:58.523
<v Speaker 14>the discussion about Dabo Sweeney go into the Jaguars and

0:34:58.523 --> 0:35:01.553
<v Speaker 14>Trevon Lawrence I left I literally had a spit take

0:35:01.553 --> 0:35:05.243
<v Speaker 14>when I heard that because that seemed a little silly

0:35:05.243 --> 0:35:09.713
<v Speaker 14>to me put it this way Dabo does not feel

0:35:09.713 --> 0:35:12.803
<v Speaker 14>in any way like he is someone who is cut

0:35:12.803 --> 0:35:15.503
<v Speaker 14>out to be an NFL head coach who holds the

0:35:15.503 --> 0:35:17.663
<v Speaker 14>jets was before my time Pat but I've heard the

0:35:17.663 --> 0:35:19.763
<v Speaker 14>stories about how he had like a fight song he

0:35:19.763 --> 0:35:22.283
<v Speaker 14>won the Jets saying in South and how it was

0:35:22.283 --> 0:35:26.033
<v Speaker 14>just a disaster that's what that feels like Dabo in

0:35:26.033 --> 0:35:27.462
<v Speaker 14>the NFL feels like that.

0:35:27.653 --> 0:35:31.073
<v Speaker 13>The one thing though would be if you are Davao

0:35:31.613 --> 0:35:35.843
<v Speaker 13>and for whatever reason you find yourself in a situation

0:35:35.843 --> 0:35:38.273
<v Speaker 13>where something changes where the world is not totally to

0:35:38.273 --> 0:35:41.002
<v Speaker 13>your liking and there is a scenario. Dan radical which

0:35:41.003 --> 0:35:44.123
<v Speaker 13>they did there. Their name. His name is is very

0:35:44.123 --> 0:35:47.423
<v Speaker 13>much in the mix for the FCC commissioner John. So

0:35:47.423 --> 0:35:52.192
<v Speaker 13>let's just say hypothetically radical which leaves and somehow the

0:35:52.193 --> 0:35:54.533
<v Speaker 13>new guy despite the fact that your only job is

0:35:54.533 --> 0:35:59.303
<v Speaker 13>make Dabo Happy doesn't make Dabo happy. Maybe then you

0:35:59.303 --> 0:36:01.973
<v Speaker 13>could decide you know what. I could go get a

0:36:01.973 --> 0:36:04.253
<v Speaker 13>giant salary see if I could do the NFL thing

0:36:04.253 --> 0:36:07.672
<v Speaker 13>with Trevor Lawrence and on top of that it's even

0:36:07.673 --> 0:36:10.713
<v Speaker 13>easier to come back to take that Alabama job after

0:36:10.713 --> 0:36:13.533
<v Speaker 13>Nick Saban leaves than it was to leave Clemson in

0:36:13.533 --> 0:36:16.173
<v Speaker 13>the first place and go to Bama and even talk

0:36:16.173 --> 0:36:18.573
<v Speaker 13>to Bama while you're at Clemson now would be mighty hard.

0:36:18.573 --> 0:36:21.123
<v Speaker 13>I think it would almost disrespect what you had built

0:36:21.123 --> 0:36:24.723
<v Speaker 13>there if you're Dabo but to possibly leave the Jaguars

0:36:24.723 --> 0:36:27.563
<v Speaker 13>after two years you're literally following the slave and models

0:36:27.583 --> 0:36:31.953
<v Speaker 13>so I think that's likely. I don't think that's likely

0:36:31.953 --> 0:36:34.263
<v Speaker 13>at all but that's the one thing because remember people

0:36:34.263 --> 0:36:37.203
<v Speaker 13>forget Roy Williams turned down the North Carolina job the

0:36:37.203 --> 0:36:39.393
<v Speaker 13>first time that was offered. That's how they wound up

0:36:39.393 --> 0:36:41.732
<v Speaker 13>with Bill Guthrie as the coach for three years and

0:36:41.733 --> 0:36:47.133
<v Speaker 13>then three years later when they hired Dorsey it was

0:36:47.133 --> 0:36:49.893
<v Speaker 13>because again. Right. Right. I'm sorry I screwed up. Guthrie

0:36:49.923 --> 0:36:51.633
<v Speaker 13>got the job did Roy Williams was going to get

0:36:51.633 --> 0:36:53.723
<v Speaker 13>it on the backside it gets rich. And it was

0:36:53.733 --> 0:36:56.623
<v Speaker 13>it was dirty for three years because he turned it down.

0:36:56.733 --> 0:36:59.462
<v Speaker 13>And when Roy Williams turned it down a flawed everybody

0:36:59.463 --> 0:37:02.283
<v Speaker 13>because that wasn't supposed to happen. But he stayed of Kansas.

0:37:02.343 --> 0:37:04.172
<v Speaker 13>And then after dawn he didn't work out three years

0:37:04.173 --> 0:37:07.293
<v Speaker 13>later he takes the job in 2003. Why do you

0:37:07.293 --> 0:37:10.593
<v Speaker 13>take it. Because Al Bowl had become the desert Kansas

0:37:11.073 --> 0:37:13.933
<v Speaker 13>and somehow al bowl came in for Fresno State Rep.

0:37:13.953 --> 0:37:16.772
<v Speaker 13>Roy Williams the wrong way and so three years later

0:37:16.773 --> 0:37:18.783
<v Speaker 13>he is willing to bail when he wasn't three years earlier.

0:37:18.783 --> 0:37:22.203
<v Speaker 13>So yeah you never know. Just Jeff sometimes and you

0:37:22.203 --> 0:37:24.993
<v Speaker 13>know Pat I mean Spurrier part of wipes for your left.

0:37:24.993 --> 0:37:28.053
<v Speaker 13>Was that the president it changed Lombardi wasn't there young

0:37:28.053 --> 0:37:30.873
<v Speaker 13>was and some things have changed and so you never

0:37:30.873 --> 0:37:33.212
<v Speaker 13>know if radical which is out that be the one

0:37:33.213 --> 0:37:35.853
<v Speaker 13>thing I'd say maybe I'd buy it right now. Yeah.

0:37:36.033 --> 0:37:38.853
<v Speaker 14>I'd be real surprised by the way I asked Spurrier

0:37:38.853 --> 0:37:40.523
<v Speaker 14>about it today we were called.

0:37:40.533 --> 0:37:42.793
<v Speaker 2>We were talking about some other things and asked him

0:37:42.793 --> 0:37:45.063
<v Speaker 2>about that and he said he was talking about well

0:37:45.063 --> 0:37:47.073
<v Speaker 2>you know in the day when I did it you

0:37:47.073 --> 0:37:49.263
<v Speaker 2>could triple your salary. Course that was a dumb ass

0:37:49.263 --> 0:37:50.823
<v Speaker 2>thing to do to leave for the NFL. I don't

0:37:50.823 --> 0:37:55.053
<v Speaker 2>know what I was thinking sir because he's just priceless.

0:37:55.053 --> 0:37:57.403
<v Speaker 2>You know that's why we love him so much. Hey.

0:37:57.523 --> 0:37:59.402
<v Speaker 2>And that's why we love you he. Thank you so

0:37:59.403 --> 0:38:02.493
<v Speaker 2>much for joining us. We'll be back more with more

0:38:02.493 --> 0:38:07.353
<v Speaker 2>of the duly noted podcasts here at gator sports dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>OK. Thanks to Heath Klein.

0:38:17.503 --> 0:38:21.133
<v Speaker 5>We appreciate his time and one of my best friends.

0:38:22.093 --> 0:38:26.143
<v Speaker 5>We worked together for so long we had so many

0:38:26.143 --> 0:38:30.793
<v Speaker 5>great lively discussions. That was the great thing about it.

0:38:31.573 --> 0:38:34.673
<v Speaker 3>So we do have football this week but I'm OK.

0:38:34.693 --> 0:38:36.733
<v Speaker 3>I didn't you know I usually give you the odds

0:38:36.733 --> 0:38:38.763
<v Speaker 3>and stuff on Spirit spreads on game and I don't

0:38:38.773 --> 0:38:41.403
<v Speaker 3>worry about it right now. We'll get to that next week.

0:38:41.413 --> 0:38:42.393
<v Speaker 3>I promise you.

0:38:42.523 --> 0:38:43.933
<v Speaker 5>In fact I'm going to be on a little bit

0:38:43.933 --> 0:38:46.003
<v Speaker 5>of a vacation next week but I already told my

0:38:46.003 --> 0:38:49.663
<v Speaker 5>boss I'm coming in to do the podcast Tuesday put

0:38:49.663 --> 0:38:52.883
<v Speaker 5>that in your pipe because we're not we're not stopping.

0:38:52.993 --> 0:38:55.663
<v Speaker 5>The only way we stop doing the podcast is if

0:38:55.663 --> 0:38:59.443
<v Speaker 5>they stop playing football. OK. We're going to keep doing

0:38:59.443 --> 0:39:02.803
<v Speaker 5>it because I know a lot of people really enjoy

0:39:02.803 --> 0:39:04.843
<v Speaker 5>it and the time on the treadmill goes by a

0:39:04.843 --> 0:39:06.993
<v Speaker 5>little faster. Right. All right.

0:39:07.003 --> 0:39:14.813
<v Speaker 16>So you know the thing that's happening with LSU is amazing.

0:39:14.853 --> 0:39:19.863
<v Speaker 4>And I like I had them lower in my pre-season

0:39:19.863 --> 0:39:26.343
<v Speaker 4>poll my AP poll than obviously they were they ended

0:39:26.343 --> 0:39:28.623
<v Speaker 4>up I think they were six in both and I

0:39:28.623 --> 0:39:31.683
<v Speaker 4>had him eight. Right now where would I put him.

0:39:32.913 --> 0:39:34.942
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I'd had him in the top 10.

0:39:35.183 --> 0:39:39.093
<v Speaker 5>Ma Chase ops out Tyler Shelburne more of their best

0:39:39.093 --> 0:39:44.003
<v Speaker 5>defensive player ops out and I oh I almost think

0:39:44.003 --> 0:39:46.733
<v Speaker 5>like they're like look this is not going well we

0:39:46.733 --> 0:39:52.042
<v Speaker 5>don't think we're gonna go we're gonna be any like

0:39:52.043 --> 0:39:55.553
<v Speaker 5>we knew coming back that it wasn't gonna be the

0:39:55.553 --> 0:39:57.743
<v Speaker 5>same as last year and we were have a target

0:39:57.743 --> 0:40:01.313
<v Speaker 5>on our back but we just don't think we're gonna be.

0:40:01.433 --> 0:40:04.403
<v Speaker 5>We could see like seven and three and we don't

0:40:04.463 --> 0:40:06.473
<v Speaker 5>necessarily want to be part of it and don't want

0:40:06.473 --> 0:40:08.393
<v Speaker 5>to take a chance and get hurt both those guys

0:40:08.393 --> 0:40:12.393
<v Speaker 5>are first round picks DeMar Chase maybe a top five pick.

0:40:12.393 --> 0:40:14.843
<v Speaker 5>Now I don't know what it does to his draft

0:40:14.843 --> 0:40:19.192
<v Speaker 5>status as the NFL looks at him and says well

0:40:19.193 --> 0:40:21.772
<v Speaker 5>you must do you love football this is a question

0:40:21.773 --> 0:40:25.402
<v Speaker 5>the NFL guys are always trying to ascertain how much

0:40:25.403 --> 0:40:29.803
<v Speaker 5>do you love football because you didn't love it enough

0:40:29.803 --> 0:40:34.623
<v Speaker 5>to go play with your teammates for whatever reason and

0:40:34.623 --> 0:40:38.733
<v Speaker 5>it's you know I understand it and you've got that right.

0:40:42.693 --> 0:40:45.663
<v Speaker 4>So that's happened. You know another one that was kind

0:40:45.663 --> 0:40:48.873
<v Speaker 4>of under the radar Eli Johnson the starting center at

0:40:48.873 --> 0:40:52.652
<v Speaker 4>Ole Miss. I think he opted out and now he's

0:40:52.653 --> 0:40:56.163
<v Speaker 4>going to transfer. I think when I read we see

0:40:56.163 --> 0:40:59.553
<v Speaker 4>this all over the place guys and I don't think

0:40:59.583 --> 0:41:02.823
<v Speaker 4>I think one reason it hasn't happened at Florida and

0:41:02.823 --> 0:41:05.963
<v Speaker 4>it could still. Like I said any any day Nelson

0:41:06.033 --> 0:41:08.943
<v Speaker 4>two guys could opt out. But I think one reason

0:41:08.943 --> 0:41:15.603
<v Speaker 4>is that the juniors on this team are players who

0:41:17.373 --> 0:41:21.062
<v Speaker 4>have a chance to do some special and be high

0:41:21.063 --> 0:41:24.123
<v Speaker 4>draft picks but they're not guaranteed it. They kind of

0:41:24.123 --> 0:41:29.013
<v Speaker 4>need to play another year and do something. And the

0:41:29.133 --> 0:41:34.923
<v Speaker 4>the juniors on this team already decided to come back

0:41:35.223 --> 0:41:38.343
<v Speaker 4>because they got the input from the NFL and the

0:41:38.343 --> 0:41:41.493
<v Speaker 4>NFL input. Well obviously wouldn't Very good. So they said

0:41:41.493 --> 0:41:44.853
<v Speaker 4>hey we're coming back. So I think that's one reason

0:41:45.363 --> 0:41:50.013
<v Speaker 4>maybe why Florida hasn't hasn't had this situation. And of

0:41:50.013 --> 0:41:53.523
<v Speaker 4>course I think Florida's handled things really well. And I

0:41:53.523 --> 0:41:55.983
<v Speaker 4>think they've done things the right way and I think

0:41:56.103 --> 0:41:59.272
<v Speaker 4>the players feel pretty safe now. We'll see going forward.

0:41:59.433 --> 0:42:01.073
<v Speaker 17>Now the students are back.

0:42:03.383 --> 0:42:07.133
<v Speaker 5>So we got that. I don't want to do I

0:42:07.133 --> 0:42:10.073
<v Speaker 5>don't even need to get into this whole Jaguar thing.

0:42:10.143 --> 0:42:12.343
<v Speaker 5>You know I know there's some Jaguar fans out there

0:42:12.343 --> 0:42:15.883
<v Speaker 5>that listen to this podcast man. It is amazing what

0:42:15.883 --> 0:42:19.823
<v Speaker 5>is going on. You guys all know the numbers. The

0:42:19.843 --> 0:42:23.193
<v Speaker 5>stretch run they had first thought top five draft picks

0:42:23.203 --> 0:42:26.473
<v Speaker 5>none I'm still with the team Leonard Fournette the latest

0:42:26.473 --> 0:42:31.443
<v Speaker 5>to get released because they couldn't find a it couldn't

0:42:31.443 --> 0:42:34.353
<v Speaker 5>find a team that would trade for him. That tells

0:42:34.353 --> 0:42:37.293
<v Speaker 5>you a lot about his attitude.

0:42:38.603 --> 0:42:41.663
<v Speaker 4>I've been a big believer in this that that team

0:42:41.663 --> 0:42:44.663
<v Speaker 4>they had in 17 had too much success at a

0:42:44.663 --> 0:42:48.213
<v Speaker 4>young age and let it all go to their heads.

0:42:48.323 --> 0:42:52.043
<v Speaker 4>And I think that's where a leader whether that leader

0:42:52.043 --> 0:42:55.373
<v Speaker 4>is your head coach or an assistant coach or one

0:42:55.373 --> 0:42:57.863
<v Speaker 4>of the players on the team. I don't think they

0:42:57.863 --> 0:42:58.613
<v Speaker 4>had that guy.

0:42:58.793 --> 0:43:02.273
<v Speaker 5>And I think that's why it's all blown up and

0:43:02.273 --> 0:43:06.922
<v Speaker 5>now you're sitting here looking at this situation where it's

0:43:07.013 --> 0:43:10.343
<v Speaker 5>tank for Trevor. A lot of people feel like I

0:43:10.343 --> 0:43:12.123
<v Speaker 5>don't know how they're going to win three or four games.

0:43:12.143 --> 0:43:16.453
<v Speaker 5>I asked this question on the other day who was

0:43:16.523 --> 0:43:19.803
<v Speaker 5>I asking too. I can't remember now but anyway.

0:43:19.873 --> 0:43:23.773
<v Speaker 4>Oh Mike Rocco. I said Who. How many do you

0:43:23.773 --> 0:43:26.893
<v Speaker 4>think that C.J. Henderson one more game as a freshman

0:43:27.223 --> 0:43:30.913
<v Speaker 4>in college or as a. Will he win more games

0:43:30.943 --> 0:43:34.062
<v Speaker 4>as a rookie in the NFL first game first year

0:43:34.643 --> 0:43:37.843
<v Speaker 4>I think about 1 4 games as a freshman not

0:43:37.843 --> 0:43:39.993
<v Speaker 4>a great weight great way to start. Coach got fired

0:43:41.383 --> 0:43:44.803
<v Speaker 4>he could win four games maybe in the NFL and

0:43:44.803 --> 0:43:45.793
<v Speaker 4>coach get fired.

0:43:46.253 --> 0:43:50.113
<v Speaker 5>So I feel bad for C.J. in a way but

0:43:50.533 --> 0:43:52.853
<v Speaker 5>he's I'm sure he's pretty happy.

0:43:53.923 --> 0:43:56.962
<v Speaker 4>Anyway so this whole thing about David I mentioned but

0:43:56.953 --> 0:44:00.823
<v Speaker 4>he's I I don't I still don't see any way

0:44:00.823 --> 0:44:06.053
<v Speaker 4>that's happened in and the other thing is you can't

0:44:06.053 --> 0:44:09.193
<v Speaker 4>guarantee that somehow that Gardner means she doesn't go off

0:44:09.193 --> 0:44:12.803
<v Speaker 4>on a couple of games and you know teams win

0:44:12.803 --> 0:44:17.273
<v Speaker 4>and lose in the NFL bad teams win games good

0:44:17.273 --> 0:44:21.473
<v Speaker 4>teams lose games in the NFL this is a college

0:44:21.473 --> 0:44:23.663
<v Speaker 4>football where teams go to 12 and no all the

0:44:23.663 --> 0:44:28.133
<v Speaker 4>time or eleven and one even really good teams go

0:44:28.133 --> 0:44:33.413
<v Speaker 4>13 and 3 and bad teams go four and twelve

0:44:33.503 --> 0:44:36.983
<v Speaker 4>you know and that could happen and then all of

0:44:36.983 --> 0:44:39.963
<v Speaker 4>a sudden somebody else goes through and all the jets

0:44:39.963 --> 0:44:42.723
<v Speaker 4>go 3 and 13 and you don't have the first

0:44:42.723 --> 0:44:46.623
<v Speaker 4>pick OK oh maybe you could Justin feels in course

0:44:46.623 --> 0:44:52.763
<v Speaker 4>he hadn't played near although we'll see where that goes.

0:44:52.763 --> 0:44:55.093
<v Speaker 5>What else did I want to talk about pre-season poll

0:44:55.093 --> 0:45:01.163
<v Speaker 5>out for the American Athletic Conference. UCSF and Cincinnati basically

0:45:01.163 --> 0:45:05.283
<v Speaker 5>almost a dead heat three points separating them. We are

0:45:05.283 --> 0:45:07.613
<v Speaker 5>gonna do. I don't know if I'm even supposed to

0:45:07.613 --> 0:45:12.023
<v Speaker 5>announce this but I'm gonna do it anyway. Jeanette which

0:45:12.023 --> 0:45:16.223
<v Speaker 5>of course is our parent company. Now we're putting together

0:45:16.223 --> 0:45:18.533
<v Speaker 5>our own FCC media day so we'll do a poll

0:45:18.533 --> 0:45:19.573
<v Speaker 5>that'll come out soon.

0:45:19.943 --> 0:45:21.533
<v Speaker 10>I'm sure the coaches will have a poll but we'll

0:45:21.533 --> 0:45:24.803
<v Speaker 10>have our own poll to beat writers and an all

0:45:24.803 --> 0:45:27.203
<v Speaker 10>FCC team and some other stuff. So be on the

0:45:27.203 --> 0:45:30.773
<v Speaker 10>lookout for that in the next couple of weeks.

0:45:32.003 --> 0:45:33.893
<v Speaker 3>All right. Let's get to three things.

0:45:34.943 --> 0:45:37.663
<v Speaker 18>It's time for three things.

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<v Speaker 5>Number one I talked about how it just feels like

0:45:47.903 --> 0:45:50.152
<v Speaker 5>every week I'm on here talking about somebody that we've

0:45:50.153 --> 0:45:53.683
<v Speaker 5>lost some of some time to somebody I knew sometimes

0:45:53.693 --> 0:45:57.503
<v Speaker 5>is somebody I don't know no I didn't know Monday

0:45:57.503 --> 0:46:01.793
<v Speaker 5>was a really bad day my my wife's brother Michael

0:46:02.393 --> 0:46:05.633
<v Speaker 5>passed away he'd been he'd been ill for a while.

0:46:06.743 --> 0:46:08.573
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to get into specifics but he just

0:46:09.983 --> 0:46:12.653
<v Speaker 5>you know events in his body gave out. It was

0:46:12.653 --> 0:46:16.583
<v Speaker 5>just done. We're all we're all in these little vessels

0:46:16.643 --> 0:46:19.863
<v Speaker 5>you know that's what we are. These bodies are our vessels.

0:46:20.003 --> 0:46:22.703
<v Speaker 5>And at some point they just say son that's all

0:46:22.703 --> 0:46:25.583
<v Speaker 5>I got. It's all you get. And it was very

0:46:25.583 --> 0:46:27.893
<v Speaker 5>sad for her very sad for me. He was a

0:46:27.893 --> 0:46:35.333
<v Speaker 5>sweetheart of a man just a great guy. And it

0:46:35.333 --> 0:46:39.613
<v Speaker 5>makes me very very very sad. It's been a hard

0:46:40.433 --> 0:46:44.303
<v Speaker 5>obviously a very difficult week for my wife's family. But

0:46:45.623 --> 0:46:47.393
<v Speaker 5>you know I spent so much time with the guy

0:46:47.503 --> 0:46:49.933
<v Speaker 5>it's very hard for me too and very hard for

0:46:50.663 --> 0:46:53.543
<v Speaker 5>to lose somebody that young is he was certainly way

0:46:53.543 --> 0:46:56.543
<v Speaker 5>younger than me. So we're on that same day we

0:46:56.543 --> 0:47:00.803
<v Speaker 5>lose John Thompson. And that was you know I guess

0:47:00.983 --> 0:47:03.083
<v Speaker 5>my relation with John Thompson Ali I interviewed him a

0:47:03.083 --> 0:47:05.483
<v Speaker 5>couple of times and I was telling this story the

0:47:05.483 --> 0:47:08.993
<v Speaker 5>other day. I the first time I interviewed John Thompson

0:47:09.543 --> 0:47:16.393
<v Speaker 5>I I was afraid I was afraid because he's so smart.

0:47:17.233 --> 0:47:20.053
<v Speaker 5>I was afraid of asking a stupid question. And you

0:47:20.053 --> 0:47:25.663
<v Speaker 5>know me I can ask a stupid question I was petrified.

0:47:25.703 --> 0:47:30.332
<v Speaker 5>I've never been that scared interviewing somebody because I just

0:47:30.333 --> 0:47:33.333
<v Speaker 5>didn't want ask the wrong question. And luckily I think

0:47:33.333 --> 0:47:36.543
<v Speaker 5>I got do it without being corrected or being told

0:47:36.543 --> 0:47:39.183
<v Speaker 5>that was a dumb question. Mostly the story was about

0:47:39.963 --> 0:47:42.483
<v Speaker 5>his son who was coaching against Florida in the NCAA

0:47:42.663 --> 0:47:44.942
<v Speaker 5>tournament and that was the year Florida course won the

0:47:45.363 --> 0:47:52.293
<v Speaker 5>first national championship. But that's John Thompson. You know I

0:47:52.293 --> 0:47:54.723
<v Speaker 5>don't know if he's on the Mount Rushmore of coaches

0:47:54.723 --> 0:47:58.803
<v Speaker 5>in terms of just coaching but he's out on the

0:47:59.103 --> 0:48:04.143
<v Speaker 5>Mount Rushmore of coaches who affected the game and affected

0:48:04.143 --> 0:48:07.652
<v Speaker 5>their players and affect the people around him. There's no

0:48:07.653 --> 0:48:12.633
<v Speaker 5>doubt he'd be on that. And of course Chadwick Bozeman

0:48:12.633 --> 0:48:17.043
<v Speaker 5>was a another tough loss over the weekend. You know

0:48:17.133 --> 0:48:20.103
<v Speaker 5>obviously I didn't know him but I'd forgotten how he

0:48:20.103 --> 0:48:25.853
<v Speaker 5>played the linebacker and Draft Day which is a movie

0:48:25.853 --> 0:48:27.863
<v Speaker 5>I like. I know I know what I've got on

0:48:27.983 --> 0:48:30.053
<v Speaker 5>Rotten Tomatoes. I like that movie a lot. I thought

0:48:30.053 --> 0:48:33.223
<v Speaker 5>it was pretty cool with Kevin Costner. He played that

0:48:33.233 --> 0:48:36.263
<v Speaker 5>and of course he played Jackie Robinson 42 which is

0:48:36.503 --> 0:48:40.523
<v Speaker 5>I watched it again last night. I welled up a

0:48:40.523 --> 0:48:44.543
<v Speaker 5>little bit thinking about it. So tough tough week and

0:48:44.543 --> 0:48:50.283
<v Speaker 5>it feels like I don't know life is not fair.

0:48:51.263 --> 0:48:53.833
<v Speaker 5>Well you have to kind of deal with it because

0:48:53.833 --> 0:48:55.303
<v Speaker 5>it's not going to be it's not going to get

0:48:55.303 --> 0:49:00.323
<v Speaker 5>any more fair. You know it's just isn't the vessels

0:49:00.533 --> 0:49:05.843
<v Speaker 5>wear out for one reason or another Chadwick Bozeman had

0:49:06.873 --> 0:49:09.693
<v Speaker 5>colon cancer. Obviously you're that young you're not going to

0:49:09.693 --> 0:49:11.073
<v Speaker 5>get a call and ask a B to check to

0:49:11.073 --> 0:49:14.013
<v Speaker 5>see if you've got it. You know nobody would tell

0:49:14.013 --> 0:49:20.133
<v Speaker 5>you you should so anyway on that lively positive note

0:49:20.173 --> 0:49:25.643
<v Speaker 5>let's switch off in number two on three things.

0:49:27.853 --> 0:49:31.513
<v Speaker 4>I really enjoy the golf this weekend that that finish

0:49:31.513 --> 0:49:35.413
<v Speaker 4>was incredible with Dustin Johnson making that roller coaster putt

0:49:35.443 --> 0:49:39.073
<v Speaker 4>and then John Rahm making one right behind him in

0:49:39.073 --> 0:49:40.963
<v Speaker 4>the playoff hole.

0:49:40.993 --> 0:49:44.533
<v Speaker 10>It sets up for a fun week end of golf

0:49:44.533 --> 0:49:47.683
<v Speaker 10>because it doesn't start till Friday. The Tour Championship and

0:49:47.683 --> 0:49:50.023
<v Speaker 10>I was on the roller coaster myself with Billy Billy

0:49:50.023 --> 0:49:52.513
<v Speaker 10>Herschel who looked like he was in. Then he was

0:49:52.513 --> 0:49:55.993
<v Speaker 10>out and it went back and forth in fact my

0:49:55.993 --> 0:49:58.453
<v Speaker 10>daughters got me watching she wants me to watch all

0:49:58.453 --> 0:50:01.213
<v Speaker 10>the Harry Potter movies with her and so I'm doing

0:50:01.213 --> 0:50:04.183
<v Speaker 10>it because I love her and she was right about

0:50:04.183 --> 0:50:06.733
<v Speaker 10>Breaking Bad. She's usually right about every movie she makes

0:50:06.733 --> 0:50:10.663
<v Speaker 10>me watch Harry Potter were three deep. OK so far

0:50:11.173 --> 0:50:15.013
<v Speaker 10>and I'm going to go with a I like the

0:50:15.013 --> 0:50:17.713
<v Speaker 10>first one a lot. The second one was not good

0:50:17.713 --> 0:50:21.113
<v Speaker 10>in my opinion the third one was pretty good.

0:50:21.193 --> 0:50:25.373
<v Speaker 19>They are long they are long.

0:50:26.373 --> 0:50:30.422
<v Speaker 5>So I think we got number four tonight. But she

0:50:30.423 --> 0:50:32.463
<v Speaker 5>said Dad you can watch. You don't have to watch

0:50:32.463 --> 0:50:35.252
<v Speaker 5>his golf. Come watch it. So I taped it so

0:50:35.253 --> 0:50:37.352
<v Speaker 5>I watch it. And I wouldn't sure for sure until

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<v Speaker 5>I came back to see a Billy Herschel didn't make

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<v Speaker 5>the top 30 and he did barely skin of his teeth.

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<v Speaker 5>Happy for him. I'm such a Billy Herschel fan. I

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<v Speaker 5>cannot tell you obviously. Fact maybe when the tour championships over.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course can't get him on that well because the U.S.

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<v Speaker 5>Opens VA employee so I say we get him on

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<v Speaker 5>the podcast. I'll still try. I'll shoot for it at

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<v Speaker 5>some point. But just the greatest guy in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>So I root hard for him unfortunately starts out with

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<v Speaker 4>a 10 shot deficit to Dustin Johnson the way they

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<v Speaker 4>set up that tour championship which I get. But because

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<v Speaker 4>you don't want to play all year to get to

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<v Speaker 4>that point and then you're all and that's the way

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<v Speaker 4>it used to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Now everybody's even but this is a great opportunity for

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<v Speaker 5>ability because yeah you set your schedule you're in everything

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<v Speaker 5>now a term you want to play and you're in

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<v Speaker 5>terms champions you're in all the majors you're in. I

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<v Speaker 5>might have already been qualified forum but that's good news

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<v Speaker 5>for a for Billy. But it was a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 4>And number three because I don't I can't do a

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<v Speaker 4>tweet of the week on a sign because the sign

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<v Speaker 4>is visual but I want to share this with you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that you may have already heard about

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<v Speaker 2>this because it's making the rounds all over Twitter.

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<v Speaker 5>There is a road sign from the Department of Transportation

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<v Speaker 5>in Mississippi and you'll see it on the highway and

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<v Speaker 5>you look and you won't be hard for you to

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<v Speaker 5>find it. But here's what it says. Like the Big

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<v Speaker 5>Ten stay home and avoid gatherings. That's their warning to people.

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<v Speaker 5>This is in Jackson Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 19>Man was Cole brother Cole not accurate.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll see. Maybe they don't stay home. Maybe they do

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<v Speaker 5>decide to play we don't we don't know what's going

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<v Speaker 5>to happen there. I don't personally I don't think the

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<v Speaker 5>president urging you to play is going to make that

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<v Speaker 5>much difference. I don't care who the president is. You

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<v Speaker 5>know like I said I know why did it. We

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<v Speaker 5>all know why he did it so why not bother

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<v Speaker 5>with the Pac twelve. But I don't think that's going

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<v Speaker 5>to change I think the Big Ten is still trying

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<v Speaker 5>to figure out what the hell they're going to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Are we're going to play on Thanksgiving or you play

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<v Speaker 5>January 1st.

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<v Speaker 4>You're playing dome stadiums. They still and that's where I

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<v Speaker 4>think they are again in the air.

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<v Speaker 10>One of the areas where I think they screwed up

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<v Speaker 10>is that they made the decision we're not going to

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<v Speaker 10>play in the fall. What is our plan. Let's not

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<v Speaker 10>announce it till we know what our plan is not just.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll figure something out down the road come up with

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<v Speaker 5>a plan. All right. That's going to do it for

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<v Speaker 5>today's podcast. Hope you guys enjoyed it. And thanks so

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<v Speaker 5>much to Heath Klein for coming on. And we'll get

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<v Speaker 5>out of here. We'll be back Tuesday. And please please

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<v Speaker 5>be safe. This thing isn't over yet. As you know

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<v Speaker 5>please be safe wherever you are and try to remember

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<v Speaker 5>to wear a mask when you're in public. It's not

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<v Speaker 5>that hard. You have to wear shoes don't you wear

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<v Speaker 5>a mask.

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<v Speaker 10>All right. Till next time I'm Pat Dooley a sports

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<v Speaker 10>columnist for The Gainesville Sun. I am deep. I am

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<v Speaker 10>way back and I am out of here.