1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: And we continue at two oh five in the afternoon 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: on the John Phillips Show, mister Randy Wangs in Culver City. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 2: John, we are now less than a week away from 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: the deadline imposed by the United Teachers of Los Angeles. 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 2: If they don't get that money, they're gonna strike. And 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 2: I want you to be all the way. 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two two two five two two two is 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: a telephone number one eight hundred two two two five 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: two two two. It is our pleasure to welcome our 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: next guest to the program. He is or was a 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: candidate for governor here in the state of California under 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: the Green Party label. His day job as a professor 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: at the University of California at Santa Barbara. You can 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: get him online at butchwerefogov dot org and follow him 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: on exit butch Ware, Doctor butch Ware, Welcome, good to. 16 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 3: Be with you, and I just want to say one thing, 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: still very much a candidate for governor in the state 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: of California. I'm actually parked outside the County Elections office 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: here in Santa Barbara County. If we have to, if 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: we fail these appeals for getting put back on the ballot, 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: We're going as right in. So we're definitely still in 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: the race, even the crooked dem establishment is trying to 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: knock me off the ballot. 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: So could you walk us through what happened? Because this 25 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: is nuts to me how you could be a candidate 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: for office. You can just go ahead and check all 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: the boxes, do what you're supposed to do. There's some 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: sort of administrative problem, and instead of fixing it, they 29 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: just say, oh, no, you're not allowed on the ballot. 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: And that's the way it is. 31 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's even worse than you think, John, So I'll 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: just break it down. There was actually no administrative problem, 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: but they pretended like there was one. So here's what happened. 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: March seventh, we submit tax returns as they are required 35 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: by filing. You have to submit unredacted and redacted copies 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: of your tax returns. The redacted ones become public, they 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: keep the unacted. We get a message saying that they're 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: there's deficiencies, you know, some kind of mistake in the 39 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: way that we filed the paperwork. But it's a non 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: grammatical request. They said no, no, not redacted return, not submitted. 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: It was a triple negative. We'd figure out what it 42 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: was supposed to mean three days later they correct it 43 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: and say no, unredacted was submitted. And then they said 44 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 3: this was for two years. But and then we said, 45 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 3: well wait a minute, and the first message you said 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: it was for four years. They wait two more days. Meanwhile, 47 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: clock is ticking because they said they have to have 48 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: all of this submitted the way that they want by 49 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: March sixteenth, at five pm. They go back and forth, 50 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: back and forth, you know, kicking the can down the road. Finally, 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: Friday to thirteenth to ten am, we get a request 52 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 3: with which we conmply, I'm sitting with my CPA. We 53 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: submit everything that needs to be submitted, send it overnight mail. 54 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: They open it at nine to seventeen am Monday morning. 55 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: At four point fifty pm, they send me an email 56 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: saying that if we do not correct the fact that 57 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 3: my phone number was left unredacted in one of these 58 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: fields on one hundred and thirty pages of tax returns, 59 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: that they're going to throw me off the ballot. And 60 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: I have ten minutes to do it in person in Sacramento. 61 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: I live in Santa Barbara. 62 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: You know what this sounds like to me? It sounds 63 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: like to me like in the old days when they 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: had the literacy tests at the polls, where it wasn't 65 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: even really a literacy test, it was just some trick 66 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: game to make sure that the Blacks couldn't vote. It 67 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: seems like she's playing some sort of game with a 68 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: predetermined outcome where you lost. 69 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: Correct And I actually said this in a social media post. 70 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: I said, Shirley Weber might as well have said to me, 71 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: how many jelly beans in that jar? 72 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: Boy? 73 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: Because that was literally the way that they did it. 74 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: And then it got even worse in court on March 75 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: twenty sixth, So I hired a powerhouse Republican lawyer. Remember, 76 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: I'm a Green Party candidate, not a Democrat. I've never 77 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: been a Democrat or a Republican in my life. I'm 78 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: an equal opportunity offender to both sides of the aisle, 79 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: and I believe in an independent politic. So hired Mark Moyser, 80 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: tremendously talent said Republican lawyer who had actually won the 81 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: Larry Elder case when they tried to knock him off 82 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 3: the ballot for the same foolishness back in It must 83 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: have been twenty twenty two. So Mark Moyser proved in 84 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: court in the Secretary of State's opposition filing two breathtaking findings. 85 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: The first was that they had doctored an email thread 86 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 3: and submitted falsified evidence into court. They went back and 87 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: changed that first non grammatical request on March seventh to 88 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: make it look like I had an order with which 89 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: we could comply the entire time. And if that wasn't 90 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 3: bad enough, my lawyer showed because they submitted everything that 91 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: I had put a male Secretary of State, the opposition 92 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: Secretary of State put this into evidence, and what my 93 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: lawyer was able to show is that they actually had 94 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 3: the correct forms, even with the redactive phone number in 95 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 3: their possession the entire time. 96 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: So what's going to happen here? So the way I 97 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: see this, and I'm not a lawyer, so I don't 98 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: understand the ends in the outs of the law, but 99 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: just from the point of view of what seems right 100 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: to me, I would imagine you're going to win in court, 101 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: and I'm going to imagine that she's going to say 102 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: it's too late, We've already printed the ballots. Too bad. 103 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: So said, yeah, so this is the way that the 104 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: game is played, right, Just to be clear, we get 105 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 3: this on Monday at four point fifty pm. If we 106 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: don't file within forty eight hours a lawsuit a writ 107 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 3: of mandate in Sacramento County Court, we're not even going 108 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: to get the case heard before they send out the 109 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 3: voter's guide, right. So the whole thing was designed to 110 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: just make me disappear before anything could be done about it. 111 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: And the reason for this is simple is that I 112 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: was pulling as high as five percent in January. I 113 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: was two percent in December. For context, Mam Donni didn't 114 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: reach two percent in his election until February. He didn't 115 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: reach five percent until April. I'm five points off the 116 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: leading Democrat and eight points off the leading Republicans, and 117 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: they're just trying to knock me out of the race. 118 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: So here's what I think that they were trying to do. 119 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 3: They're basically they know that they're going to lose on appeal, 120 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: but they're going to say it's too expensive rerun the ballots. 121 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 3: They're going to say that there is no remedy that 122 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 3: they can offer. And nonetheless, we are filing in court. 123 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: We are filing in the original court. There's a Palestinian 124 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: and Latina private citizen that is filing her own court 125 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 3: case where she is disenfranchised. She lost fifty six family 126 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 3: members in the genocide in Gaza, and she's saying that 127 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: this is the only candidate that is willing to stand 128 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: up for both sides of my family. The second thing 129 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: is we are filing a circuit court appeal for this 130 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: crooked judge's ruling because the judges ruling violated the laws. 131 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: James argulis and he said that it didn't matter what 132 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,119 Speaker 3: hoops they wanted us to jump through if we didn't 133 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 3: submit completed returns in time, there was nothing that they 134 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: could do when we would be rejected. But he had 135 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: just acknowledged court and the Secretary of State's lawyer had 136 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: ignore knowledge that they were in possession of completed tax 137 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: returns the whole time. Literally, the Secretary of State's lawyer said, 138 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: it's not our job to collate the returns. That was 139 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: the way that they tried to duck this. So we're 140 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 3: appealing there and we are preparing a federal suit. We 141 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: have election lawyers that have done work for the Jill 142 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: Stein campaign in the past. I ran as Joe's vice 143 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: president back in twenty twenty four. So we are going 144 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: to fight this, and one way or the other. Even 145 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: if they're successful in writing us off the balot, people 146 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: can write us right back in because this is a movement. 147 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: We've got people from San Diego to Humboldt. We're crossing 148 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: ideological divides, identity divides. A lot of our voters are 149 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: rural voters. Because I don't care who you with or 150 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: who you lay with. I don't do the culture war thing. 151 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: I've never been a Democrat or Republican. We're trying to 152 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: restore power back to the people, all of us. 153 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: The way I see this, I think she targeted you 154 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: because of politics, because if you were to pull at 155 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: five percent, as you said that you have some of 156 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: the polls, that would mean you're going to qualify for 157 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: some of the debates. And if you qualify for some 158 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: of the debates, as a college professor, someone with a PhD, 159 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: someone who gives lectures for a living, you're going to 160 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: go out there and you're going to craft arguments that 161 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: are probably going to be better crafted arguments than some 162 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: of her preferred candidates. And from her point of view, 163 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: you would then be a threat to her preferred candidates 164 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: because you might take votes from them and in a 165 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: top two primary with the threat that two Republicans could 166 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: make the November ballot if you took votes from Democratic 167 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: candidates because you outshine them at the debates, then that 168 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: could end up with a result that she doesn't like. 169 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: So I only take issue with your characterization in two ways. 170 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 3: The first is that I would replace her with the him, 171 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: because this is Gavin Newsom all the way through you. 172 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: Gavin says jump and Shirley say, how high boss, Because 173 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: this is definitely coming straight from the top. And I'll 174 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: tell you why this is the second amendment or the 175 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: second revision that I would make to your argument. It's 176 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: not hypothetical. So because I'm the only candidate in the 177 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: field that has received a million votes for the White House, 178 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: we received almost a million votes in twenty twenty four, 179 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: I was included in all of the initial debates, including 180 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: so APAPA. For example, Asian Pacific American Political Association, they 181 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,479 Speaker 3: held a debate with all of the Democrat and Republican candidates. 182 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: The people that were in that room said I won 183 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: that debate hands down. Two weeks before that, SEIU Local 184 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: one thousand held a debate. Only Democrats came, Katie Porter 185 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: and a few others. There were seven there three and 186 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: a half hours, and this has been documented and confirmed. 187 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: When they closed the door and held the open vote 188 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 3: and asked best candidate, I beat the next two candidates 189 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: hands down together. And it was that point in time 190 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: that people start to receive polls in their mail from 191 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 3: Eric swall Wells campaign asking about it was basically him 192 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 3: testing the waters for answering the race. The first four 193 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 3: questions on those polls were about butch where because they 194 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: already know what happens when I'm on a debate stage 195 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: with those crooked, corrupt democratic clowns is that you just 196 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 3: bring the body bags. It is. It's a decimation. So 197 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: they're doing everything that they can to try to keep 198 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: me out of the public eye. But your listeners can 199 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: fix this, by the way you could. There's one live 200 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: tel advised debate April twenty eighth, and it is being 201 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: held by that same group a Papa CBS Sacramento, and 202 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 3: some of you might have seen me on CBS Sacramento 203 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: because I came out against Prop fifty, unlike a lot 204 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: of these liberals and soak leftists that were just carrying 205 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: water for the Dems. I said, you don't fight fire 206 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: with fire, Bess, you fight fire with water, Bess. You 207 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 3: don't fight jerry mandering with jerry manning, you fight it 208 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: with proportional representation. So all that's to say that I've 209 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 3: already been interviewed by CBS Sacramento. That's on the website 210 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: CBS Sacramento. A PAPA and Pomona College are hosting a 211 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: debate on April twenty eighth. I have already been invited 212 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: to that debate, and I guarantee you now that the 213 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: Democrats are going to do everything that they can to 214 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: try to stop me from up here on that stage. 215 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: So your listeners can call them, they can email them, 216 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: they can tag them and post, and they can say, listen, 217 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: we want to hear from a truly independent political candidate 218 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 3: that isn't associated with either Team Blue or Team Red. 219 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: When you show up to these debates, given the fact 220 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: that they see you as a thread, how do they 221 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: treat you personally? Like, how does Katie Porter treat you 222 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: when you show up to these debates? 223 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 3: That's such an amazing question. Katie Porter looks at me 224 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: like she's like terrified, Like John, I'm the candy man 225 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 3: to these people, Like I think that they're really like, 226 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 3: are afraid if you say butch ware three times, I'm 227 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: going to pop up, you know, behind them and start, 228 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 3: you know, catching bodies like it's you can tell that 229 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: they were completely blindsided and caught flat footed. The fact 230 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: that they have a candidate who isn't beholden to any 231 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: of the corporate interests on either side and therefore can 232 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 3: just go guns blazing at what's wrong with the Democrat 233 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 3: establishment inside the state of California, but without also siding 234 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: with all of the things that Trump is doing crazy, 235 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 3: you know, like trying to start World War three and 236 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 3: threatening to nuke Iran. Right, So, the fact that I 237 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: am not a liberal extremist or a conservative extremist, that 238 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: I am somebody that is running on issues that are 239 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 3: seventy thirty or eighty twenty issues for people in state 240 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: of California across the ideological spectrum that has them terrified. 241 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: Katie Porter looks like a deer in headlights every time 242 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: she sees me. 243 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: Let's go back to Shirley Weber for a second, because 244 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: you mentioned Laurie Elder and she tried to kick him 245 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: off the ballot. If I remember correctly, and you probably 246 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: know more about this than I do, so correct me 247 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. But it was she wanted certain documents. 248 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: She wanted three copies of a certain document. I don't 249 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: know if it was taxes or what. And he provided 250 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: three copies of it, and one of the three was incomplete, 251 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: but it was complete in two out of the three. 252 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: And instead of allowing him the opportunity to make more 253 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: photo copies of documents that she already had, she decided 254 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: she was going to kick him off the ballot. Then 255 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: if you go to the US Senate race the last 256 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: time around, Claudia Pascucci, Christina Pascucci, damn it, I keep 257 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: saying that anyway, wrong person. She was running for US Senate. 258 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: She was a broadcast journalist, and they left her occupation 259 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: off the ballot, so people just assumed that she was unemployed. 260 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: And she goes, now, wait a minute, I filled out 261 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: the paperwork the right way. I'm a broadcast journalist. Fix it, 262 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: And she goes, no, no, no, no, no, we can't do that. 263 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: Everything's already been printed. We'll just put a note on 264 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: the website. So on the paper ballots, no one knew 265 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: what she did for work. And then the third one 266 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: that I can remember was for a congressional seat in Bakersfield. 267 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: This is the one that Vince Fong won eventually, but 268 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: he was the sitting assemblyman. He filed to run for reelection. 269 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: Then the local congressman, who was McCarthy, decided he was 270 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: going to get out of Congress. That seat opened up, 271 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: and then he filed the paperwork to run for Congress 272 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: instead of Assembly. And she goes, no, no, no, no, no, 273 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: you can't do that. You already filed a run for Assembly. 274 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: And he goes, yeah, well, there was an incumbent back then, 275 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: but circumstances changed and she tried to keep him off 276 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: the ballot, and she lost in court, just like she 277 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: did with Larry Elder. And I just can't imagine how 278 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: this woman thinks that she's going to be well, now, 279 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: she's just going to run out the clock, is what 280 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: she's going to do. But how many times do you 281 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: have to lose in court do you realize that what 282 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: you're doing isn't the way to run shop. 283 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: But the thing is it is because they there. So 284 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: I don't think that they actually that they weren't necessarily 285 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: going to keep me off the ballot. I think that 286 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: they wanted to make sure I do and appear in 287 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: the voter's guide because they don't want people to see 288 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: my resume. Listen, my father was a locksmith with a 289 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: sixth grade education. I got a PhD from the University 290 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 3: of Pennsylvania. I taught at Northwestern University, University of Michigan, 291 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: and now you see Santa Barbara top research institutions. I've 292 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: run multinational research centers across four continents for decades. I 293 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: was doing this in my thirties. I've been an activist 294 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: in the community, an organizer in the community. They don't 295 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: want me on stage and they don't want people reading 296 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: about me because the case that we make is compelling 297 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: and its one people respond to. I think that they're 298 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: just trying to keep my numbers down because they know 299 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: full well that I have a great chance to finish 300 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: in the top two in this primary if voters learn 301 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: more about me. Last point on this or actually second 302 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 3: to last point. I told you that. Listen, we don't 303 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: accept any corporate donations. We're not swimming in cash the 304 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: way either the Republican or the Democrat candidates are queans. 305 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: We don't pay for our own polling. It's great when 306 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: Eric Swalwell does polling for us and we find out 307 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: we're two percent in December. It's great when a poll 308 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: is running in January that shows us at five percent. 309 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: My suspicion is that they probably have internal polling. It 310 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: shows me already running neck and neck with the Democrat candidates, 311 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: and they were sent to do the hit and get 312 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: me out of the race. And we know that for 313 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 3: sure this is a targeted hit because right now, you 314 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: can go on Shirley Weber's web website at the Secretary 315 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: of State and you can find the Libertarian candidate who 316 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: they don't see as a political threat, has dozens of 317 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: redaction errors in his redacted tax returns. You can go 318 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: right now and find multiple candidates who have these quote 319 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: unquote deficiencies in their dossiers, many many of them. So 320 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: this is something that was selectively applied to me. This 321 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: is lawfair, right. This is when you use the courts 322 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: as a weapon of war against the political enemy. And 323 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: I'm expecting people we've already seen a huge media response 324 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: to this. This is already making local covers throughout the 325 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: state of case California, and now they're national news outlets 326 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 3: that are picking it up. So raise hell, because these 327 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 3: crooked Dems are gonna if they're going to do this 328 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: to me, you know for sure, they're going to do 329 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: this to conservatives and to other independents. They do this 330 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: to Democrats that they don't like. That same judge, thirty 331 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: minutes before he jobbed me throughout the paperwork of a 332 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: Democrat candidate that was running for state legislature against the 333 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: California Democrat Party endorsed candidate by saying that, yeah, she 334 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 3: had her forms, had all the fields redacted, and she 335 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: submitted it to the correct county courthouse. But because she 336 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 3: picked up paperwork from the wrong county courthouse, that they 337 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 3: were throwing her off the ballot too. These people are rogue. 338 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 3: They are using the courts and the Secretary of State's 339 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 3: office to try to take out their political enemies. And 340 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 3: I just don't think the Californias are going to put 341 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: up with the consense anymore. 342 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: Well, it's a disgrace what they did to you. You 343 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: belong on the ball that you belong on those debate stages. 344 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: And let's help the courts could figure out how to 345 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: write this wrong. 346 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: Appreciate that. Can I make one more last appeal to 347 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: your audience. 348 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead. 349 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: So one thing that people do not know about Butch 350 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: where is that in twenty twenty four, we were actually 351 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: getting more Republican voters voting Green in the twenty twenty 352 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 3: four presidential election in the last two polls came out. 353 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: And it's for a very simple reason. Is that I 354 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 3: got out in public and I said, listen, I do 355 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 3: not think that your average Trump voter is racist, not 356 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: any more than your average Democrat voter is racist. I said, 357 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 3: I think that that is a fairy tale that liberals 358 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: tell themselves so that they can sleep at night. I 359 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: think your average Republican voter does not see a difference 360 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: between blue criminals and red criminals, and all other things 361 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 3: being equal, would rather pay lower taxes. Well, I'm going 362 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 3: to cut those taxes because I'm not part of the 363 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 3: Democrat machinery. I am not giving handouts to Gavin Newsom's 364 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: developer but or to the poverty industrial complex. I'm going 365 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 3: there independent to do the people's business. I work for 366 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: the people. I don't work for the Democrat establishment. 367 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: All right, Doctor Butchware candidate for governor running under the 368 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: banner of the Green Party here in the state of California. 369 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: You can get him online at Butchwere for gov. That's 370 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: the number for butchwaerefourgov dot org and follow him on 371 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: x at Butchwere Doctor butch Ware. Thanks so much for 372 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: stopping by. 373 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 3: Thanks for making time. 374 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: Appreciate you. If you'd like to email the show, you 375 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: can do so at Johnny Don't Like Show at gmail 376 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: dot com. 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Thanks to the magic of streaming, and thanks 391 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: to podcasting, you can listen to this noon to three 392 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 2: show whenever you want. 393 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: We have an update on the accusations of sexual harassment 394 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: that are being leveled against California Congressman and candidate for 395 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: governor Eric Swalwell. 396 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: I guess you could say this is a preemptive attack 397 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: because these allegations so far have only existed in social media. 398 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: They're being investigative by reporters, but no media outlet has 399 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 2: reported on it yet. That being said, Politico now has 400 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: a story where Swalwell's campaign is denying the quote false 401 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 2: outrageous claims inappropriate behavior. The Swallwall camp says, quote this false, 402 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: outrageous rumor is being spread twenty seven days before an 403 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: election begins by flailing opponents who have sadly teamed up 404 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: with maga conspiracy theorists because they know Eric Swalwell is 405 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: the front runner in this race. 406 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: Okay, he makes a compelling argument. Here's what I think 407 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: he should do. I think he should get Nancy Pelosi 408 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: and all of his top female supporters to come out 409 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: and publicly put their good name and reputation on the 410 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: line and say that this is a MAGA conspiracy against 411 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: Eric Swalwell. There's no truth to it. They all vouch 412 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: for his morality and ethics, and certainly there's nothing else 413 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: that'll be coming out down the pike that's about a 414 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: million times worse than this. You know what's wild is 415 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: no it has reported on the story yet, but now 416 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: because Swalwell has to respond to it, now, this entire 417 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: allegation is being covered in Politico. Yes, However, I think 418 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: it was going to be inevitable. So whether it happens 419 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: today or later on, I don't know. This is going 420 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: to be a story that we're going to be reading 421 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: a lot about, I predict. Now. 422 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: There's a few more denials in the story, including a 423 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: spokesperson for Swalwell's campaign, Micah Beasley. When it comes to 424 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: the existence of NDAs, they're saying, in thirteen years, no 425 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: one in Eric Swalwell's congressional office has ever been asked 426 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 2: to sign an NDA. Ever, in thirteen years, not a 427 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: single ethics complaint by any staff in his office or 428 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: any other office has been lodged ever. Okay, that's an 429 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: interesting denial because they're only talking about his time in Congress. 430 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: Well the allegations. If you read the summary of them, 431 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: because we haven't heard from the specific accusers yet, say 432 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: it goes all the way back to his time on 433 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: the Dublin City Council in northern California. 434 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: Because this isn't saying, even in their own denial, that 435 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: Eric Swawell has never had anyone sign an NDA. 436 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: Ever, they're not saying that. 437 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: They're just saying in the last thirteen years, nobody has 438 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: signed an NDA. 439 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So he's specifically saying in his congressional office, so 440 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: that would not involve anyone working for his campaign. For example, 441 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: there's that. 442 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 2: There's also his time in Dublin, and there's his time 443 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: in the Alameda County District Attorney's office. Likee frankly, how 444 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: is pammy not all over this story? 445 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: Well? Also, if you're in Congress, sometimes they're employees of 446 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: the committee. If you sit on different committees, like let's 447 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: say he was on the impeachment committee to impeach Donald Trump. 448 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: He sits on various committees that are standing committees in 449 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: the Congress. A lot of those committees have their own 450 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: employees that don't necessarily work for just you. 451 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: Here's a little piece from the political story. The escalation 452 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: combined with primary ballots dropping in less than a month, 453 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: and specific assertations to dispute such as the NBA's was 454 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: the tipping point that pushed the Swallow campaign to respond, 455 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: said a campaign advisor. Granted anonymity to discuss the internal deliberations. 456 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: So they know that this story is coming and they're 457 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: trying to figure out how's the best way to respond 458 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: to it. 459 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: So here's what you do. If this is just a 460 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: malicious hit, and these are people who have an axe 461 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: to grind for one reason or another, don't you have 462 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: an attorney send them a cease and desist letter. 463 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 2: That's what the person who is starting to make the 464 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: accusation says. They know who they are, they follow them 465 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: on on social media. Nobody has gotten a cease and desist. 466 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: No, no, And it's a woman who, by the way, 467 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: comes from Democratic Party politics, and it's a woman who 468 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: works I think she's an attorney by trade who at 469 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: one point in time was a candidate herself. But she 470 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: is someone who works in Democratic party politics, and I 471 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: would assume wants to continue working in Democratic Party politics 472 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: in the future, meaning if she comes out with some 473 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: allegation that is false or defamatory, or I don't know 474 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: made up her career is over. In Democratic party politics, 475 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: you can't do that and then continue to get jobs. 476 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: That's not how it works. Yeah, like what's in it 477 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: for you? No, no, there's nothing in it. And by 478 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 1: the way, I hate to sound like I don't know 479 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: the Paul Lynn character and bye by Birdie here, but 480 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: if you're a victim, there's nothing but downside coming forward. 481 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: It's not fun. And I know that they're supposed to 482 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: speak up and they're supposed to tell their story and 483 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: know their truth and all that, and I'm glad that 484 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: there are people who do it, because there are really 485 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: abusive people out there. But here's what's going to happen. 486 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: Swallwell is going to have opposition researchers look all of 487 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: these victims up, or these alleged victims, and he's going 488 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: to try to ruin their lives everything that they've ever done. 489 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: If you've got a DUI, you got caught cheating on 490 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: a test at some point when you were a student, whatever, 491 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: that's all going to come out and they're going to 492 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: put it in the paper. It is not going to 493 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: be a fun experience for them. But what this really 494 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: is going to do is it's going to force Democrats 495 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: to ask themselves the question, do you believe Eric Swellwell? 496 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: And if you believe Eric Swalwell, then you have nothing 497 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: to worry about. These are fake accusations that are being 498 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: politically motivated by MAGA extremists. And you don't have to 499 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: worry about any additional allegations coming out at some future date. 500 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: You certainly don't have to worry about any physical evidence 501 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: coming out at a future date. You don't have to 502 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: worry about receipts coming out at a future date that 503 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: makes you look like a fool. You don't have anything 504 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: to worry about like that. Nothing. And what's wild to me. 505 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,239 Speaker 1: What's wild to me is that they are willing and 506 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 1: you can already see them moving in this direction to 507 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: put all of their eggs in the smallwell basket, when 508 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: it's clear that they were all aware that this guy 509 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 1: had problems, because the CTA got behind him, the SEIU 510 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: got behind him, Adam Schiff got behind him, their congressional 511 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: delegation got behind them. They were all starting to coalesce 512 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: behind him because they needed to get behind one candidate 513 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: so they didn't split the vote. And then the Republicans 514 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: got on the November ballot and he was clearly going 515 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: to be the guy. And they either thought that the 516 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: press corps wouldn't do their job and so none of 517 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: this would ever come out, or that he would be 518 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: able to just bat away those accusations and it would 519 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: be like water off the duck's back. Now, maybe he 520 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: will I don't know. Maybe he will survive this and 521 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: Democratic voters in California won't care. But if the accusations 522 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: get worse, maybe the situation will be different. I don't know. 523 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: I can't predict the future, but I do know this. 524 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: He is a slimy, smarmy, totally unethical, narcissistic attention wore. 525 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: And if I had to bet, I would say there's more. Again, 526 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm not Nostradamis here, but if you could see me 527 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: winking through the radio, you'd know. I'm pretty confident. But 528 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: time will tell. Well, we have yet another poll that 529 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: just dropped in the gubernatorial race here in the state 530 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: of California. Boy, the second Easter ended. This campaign is 531 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: really starting to heat up. This is a pole of 532 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: from Create Strategies from March twenty third to March twenty ninth, 533 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: polling seven hundred likely voters, and this poll shows a 534 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: breakaway front runner with nineteen percent of the vote, Steve Hilton, 535 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: who is still lower than the twenty percent Not sure, okay, 536 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: who's in second and third? 537 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: Tied for second place is Stire and Swallwell in third 538 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: place at ten percent? Is Bianco in fourth place? 539 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: No? 540 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: Wait and ty yeah, so third slash fourth place is 541 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: Bianco and at eight percent is kt Parterur. 542 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 3: You can smart right here? 543 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: How about Vira Gosa? Where is he? 544 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: So when you go below Katie Porter, you have may 545 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: hennet four percent, Ye at three percent, Vira Gosa and 546 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: Besera at two percent each, And recent guest of the 547 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: show show, Tony Thurman, didn't make the cut. 548 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you it'll be interesting to see what goes 549 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: on with Matt Mayhan, in particular because Matt Mayhan, unlike 550 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: many of the other single digit candidates, does have significant backing. 551 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: You look at his contributors and it's just it's a 552 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: who's who of Silicon Valley. All of the big names 553 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: are there, all of the big names in Silicon Valley, 554 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: and that industry, which is the industry that makes this 555 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: state run, is really upset with how the state is governed, 556 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: and we've seen certain companies, certain tech companies already move out. 557 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: We saw Tesla move out, we saw Oracle move out, 558 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: we saw SpaceX move out. There's a whole list of them, 559 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: and we know that there are other companies who could 560 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: be next door Dash move out to Oh it's posture, 561 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: but they prefer to live here. They like it here. 562 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: They just want the state to run now. 563 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: Door Dash is still in San Francisco, are they yes? 564 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: And the door Dashers are all on e bikes running 565 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: over San Franciscans. 566 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: All right. Here are the companies, the tech companies that 567 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: have moved out of California in recent years. Gotta hope 568 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to pronounce all these names. Tesla, Oracle, 569 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: Hewlett Packard, SpaceX X, Abby, Simper, Learn, McAfee, de Wave, Quantum, 570 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: and Planeteer. That's AI I think right, sounds like it. 571 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: I don't know anyway, they've all moved out of the state. 572 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: Those people want to stay here, and Matt Mahan was 573 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: their guy. That was plan a. He comes from San 574 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: Jose that many of those companies are headquartered. They're very 575 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: familiar with his work. They're happy with the results. Mayhan 576 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: has gotten great results. I know we have listeners in 577 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: San Jose, some of whom disagree, But if you compare 578 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: them to the other mayors, compare them to Barbara Lee, 579 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: or compare them to Karen Bass or any of the 580 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: other failures, you know that San Jose is run much 581 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: better than the other big cities in California. And that's 582 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: what they want for the state. They want the whole 583 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: state to be run like San Jose, and they've ponied 584 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: up big money. However, at this point, he should be 585 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: doing better than four percent, and if he's not going 586 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: to do better than four percent, they're going to have 587 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: to figure out what Plan B is. Because time's a 588 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: ticken We're now less than a month before the ballots 589 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: go out, and if he hasn't turned it around yet, 590 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ever going to turn it around. 591 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: And if he's toiling at four percent, he may not 592 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: even be invited to the debates, so he may not 593 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: even have the opportunity to make his arguments to the 594 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: voters of the state of California, which means he's a 595 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: lost cause. 596 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 2: Well, and you're getting to a point where, for most 597 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 2: of March it was Styre spending money in Mayheen's spending money. 598 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: But now all the candidates that have been saving their 599 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 2: money tell people were really paying attention, which is now 600 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: they're all going to be filling up the airwaves. So 601 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 2: if you're Silicon Valley and you've determined that Mayheen isn't 602 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 2: going to make it happen the way I see things, 603 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 2: you have three options. Option one is to get behind 604 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: the other moderate Democrat in the race, who is Antonio 605 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 2: via Ragosa. He hasn't started spending his money yet. At 606 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 2: some point soon he will, and when he does, if 607 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: you start to see a pop, then maybe that's the 608 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 2: place to go. Option two is to flood the bank 609 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: accounts of both Republicans and hope for a Republican on 610 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: Republican runoff. If you get a Republican on Republican runoff, 611 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: Silicon Valley would be happy with that result. The third 612 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 2: option is to take a look at the three high 613 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 2: performing Democrats in the polls and try to determine which 614 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 2: one is most likely to win, and then just get 615 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: behind that person. And you say, well, the unions are 616 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 2: backing those candidates, and the unions don't believe in anything 617 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 2: that Silicon Valley believes in, particularly with AI on the horizon, 618 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 2: they're going to go to war with each other over 619 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: things like self driving cars and trucks and that sort 620 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: of thing. Well, there's a lot of money in Silicon Valley. 621 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 2: If Silicon Valley has determined and that one candidate is 622 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: going to win, you could. 623 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: Just outbid the unions. If the unions are going to 624 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: give them X dollars, give that person, why that's more 625 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: than x, and then they're beholden to you, or more 626 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: beholden to you than they are to the unions. That's 627 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: something that has happened before in American politics. Who was it? 628 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: Was it Abraham Lincoln's secretary of war. I think was 629 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Simon Cameron, where he 630 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: was quoted at one point as saying, an honest politician 631 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 1: is one who, when he's bought, will stay bought. Well, 632 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: there aren't very many of those in California. My guess 633 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: is they would all be willing to go to the 634 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: highest bidder, So you just have to be the highest bidder. 635 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: And that person, by the way, is probably Eric Swaalwell, 636 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: who if Silicon Valley got behind him in a big way. 637 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: He would certainly be extremely grateful, particularly right now. But 638 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: I don't know what that industry is going to do. 639 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: But right now they have a lot of tough questions 640 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: that they need to be answering because time is ticket. 641 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: It's like watching sixty minutes on Sunday nights and they're 642 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: going to a commercial break. What do you hear? You 643 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: hear that clock? And that's what the big wigs in 644 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: Silicon Valley are hearing right now. They're hearing the clock 645 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: as we get closer to the ballots being distributed in 646 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 1: this gubernatorial election.