1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: It's the Ray Appleton Podcast from KMJ and kmjnow dot com. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: Let me tell you but coming up, coming up, I 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 1: want to talk about harness racing returning to the Big 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Transment Fair in the place of horse racing. But he lost. 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: I knew this was coming. This is so much fun. 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: I am a big fan. You may be going, what 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: are we going to do the Gladiators again? Yes, we are, 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna do. So I want to talk 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: about that before we get out of here today. There's 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: a little bit to say about you know, Mayerswerringen is 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: back in the news for reasons that I will get into. 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: I've always been a supporter of hers. She's done some 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: different things since she's been out of office that you 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: may or may not have agreed with. And in Bigfoot, 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: we got the Marines got Bigfoot, eh, but they didn't 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: get this guy, Tom del Bacaro. Tom del Bacaro is 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: the former chair of the California Republican Party. I think 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: most of you know that by now. He's an author, 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: he's an actor. He's done many many things to begin 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: with the letter A, including being on this program. And 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: he's a dear, dear friend Tom, it's been a while. 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back. How are you, sir? 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Thanks so much for having. 24 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: Me on wo barely can hear you on your end? 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: Can we turn him up there? 26 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: Let me let me, let me fix that. I don't 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 2: know what to deal with that is do better? 28 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say this is better, and it's also 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: better on our end. Okay, very good. The party positions 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: you bring up in something that you wrote very interesting 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: entitled the party positions are the same as before twenty 32 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: twenty four, but the propaganda machines are not. So if 33 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: we understand that question, we have to ask ourselves. Okay, well, 34 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: how does that work out with the propaganda machines? Who's 35 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: going to benefit by that, who isn't? And what is 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: a propaganda machine? Start this anyway you want to, because 37 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: with the titling of it, I think some people are 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: probably scratching their head. 39 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: Okay, but I do have a musical question. 40 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: We'll get to it, of course you do. 41 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: So everybody's talking about what's going to happen in the midterms, 42 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: and to a significant degree, the economy is going to 43 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: decide what happens in the midterms. Uh, and you know 44 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 2: the the the transition from government juiced economy to a 45 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: private sectors is still in the works. I wish the 46 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: Republicans would pass the tax bill last February instead of July, 47 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: because that was wasted four months, five months, and that's 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: on the Republicans. But we need to keep this in mind. 49 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: Elections are not you know, they do that that whole 50 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: of a Republican versus Democrat, but then don't give you 51 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: a name, right, they just say, you know, generic ballot, 52 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: But it's not about a generic ballot. The Democrats have 53 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: the same exact positions that lost in the twenty twenty 54 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: four race. You can see that they still think that 55 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: illegal immigration isn't illegal, right, that's what Minnesota stands for. 56 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: You can see that they still want to defund the police. 57 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: They want to defund ICE. Well who is ice? Ice 58 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: is the police. So they're still there. And then you 59 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: look at what they do in Virginia and in California, 60 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: and you can see they're still advocating the same positions 61 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: that lost them the election in twenty twenty four. Right, 62 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: the presidential election was decided on the issues of crime 63 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: and immigration and the economy. Right, so the Democrats on crime, immigration, 64 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: are essentially the same race. Now talk about the economy. 65 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: What caused on affordability unlimited spending under Joe Biden, Why 66 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: that was the Inflation Reduction Act. No, it was the 67 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: Spending Increase Act that led to inflation. The Democrats are 68 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: in the same place. Ray. They want to increase spending 69 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 2: a trillion. That's what Schumer said during the last shutdown, 70 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: and he said it again last week. So the Democrat 71 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: Party hasn't shifted its position one iota. So there you go. 72 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: They're in the same place, and they're the party of 73 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 2: protests now, and people don't like protests. They want things 74 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: to be to work out. They don't like protests. They 75 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: don't think that's responsible. The responsible party is the protesting party. 76 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 2: The sixties proved that right. So the Republicans are still 77 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: in the same place too. They believe in lower taxes, 78 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 2: law and order, remove illegal immigration, and the economy should 79 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: be humming by by June. So therefore, on paper, you know, 80 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: you know, talk about two teams, Well, on paper, this 81 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: team is better than other. You still got to play 82 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: the game right. Right, on paper, the Republicans have the 83 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: are better on the issues, and have a good economy 84 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: ahead what do the Democrats have? They're bad on the 85 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: issues and the economy is going to work against them. However, 86 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: they run circles around still to this day, Republicans on 87 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: the propaganda machines, because if you look at the Democrats, 88 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: they go issue to issue, they pivot quickly, talking points 89 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: come out. It's like a school of fish, sure with 90 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 2: how quickly they they. 91 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: Move exactly, I know exactly what you're saying. Yes, gone, And. 92 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: The Republicans, who should be driving the issues, are in 93 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: reaction mode. And so what the Republicans need to do? 94 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: And on my podcast Politics and Perspective and You and 95 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: I got to do a special music podcast on Politics 96 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: in Perspective, I talked to John McLaughlin, who is Trump's 97 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 2: polster's I think he's the best. He point they took 98 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: a poll which and the difference there was a massive 99 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: difference between when they told people what the economy was 100 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: really doing. They shifted their views versus what they were 101 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: being told and by virtually every outlet. And so it's 102 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: very obvious that people are better off, but that the 103 00:06:54,080 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: Democrat propaganda machine is saying that they're deporting American citizens 104 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: not true, that the economy is tanking not true, that 105 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: people don't have money, on and on and on and on, 106 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: and so this year will be decided on whether the 107 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: Republicans or once will win that messaging argument, because right 108 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: now they're losing it. 109 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: On the messaging argument. That was very apparent this morning 110 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: if you were watching the the Senate get together on 111 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: why Maduro is being held in you know, the United 112 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: States for what he did, and how they went after 113 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: the Secretary of State Marco Rubio with all of these 114 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: questions very much tying into what you're talking about, and 115 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: that it amazes me how even though things are so 116 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: much better, and they wanted to all talk about Donald 117 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: Trump and not the issue at hand, which was Maduro. 118 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: But you know, and they would walk right into situations 119 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: where he had answers that would school them, just just 120 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: bang them out of the park when it came to, 121 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, anything it had to do with money and 122 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: money in hand. And but you're right, it's that messaging. 123 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: It's the way that we portray and I don't know, 124 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: I mean, how should that be portrayed if you were 125 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: going to give them lessons on portrayal, if you're going 126 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: to teach him marketing, which is something I used to do. 127 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: What would you teach the Republicans to finally get their 128 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: heads out of there butt and start doing this the 129 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: right way, tom. 130 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: Well, First and foremost, stop arguing in Washington and start 131 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: presenting in in small towns across the country. Here's what 132 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: I mean by that, Trump, When you just argue with 133 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: ABC or in the White House press room, you don't 134 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: It doesn't reach people. Independence do not watch press conferences. 135 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: Independents do not watch MAGA events. Very few do. So 136 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: what I've suggested Trump needs to do is he can 137 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: do all the mag events he wants, but he should 138 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: do small town halls of independent voters. He's very good 139 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 2: at this. He can sit there, he can listen to them. 140 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: They might not agree with him, but he does listen 141 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: to people. Biden had no listening skills. Obama didn't give 142 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: a damn to listen. But Trump does listen. I know 143 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: this for a fact. 144 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: Well do I have said publicly on the air. He 145 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: is the greatest listener that I've ever encountered in my life. 146 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: I had personal one one on one encounters with him, 147 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: especially about water. When Devin and I were schooling him 148 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: on water in California. His memory, retention. His ability to 149 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: take in so much in that brain of his and 150 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: keep it all packed in as the commander in chief 151 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: is remarkable. I'm sorry to interrupt, but there you go. 152 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: I just wanted to confirm what you said. 153 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. So what he needs to do 154 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: is go to these do these little town fall because 155 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: in order to get in the news, you should make news. 156 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: I love it, and so when I was chairman of 157 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: the state Party, I did these town halls that started 158 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: in Fresno. Actually I actually did a high school town hall. 159 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: I could have just set out a press release saying 160 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: that schools aren't teaching, but instead I'd let the students 161 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: do it, and it made the news. It got on 162 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: Fox and all these other places because it was unusual. 163 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: So Trump needs to do the unusual. And it also 164 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: breaks the stereotype that he's some sort of mean whatever, 165 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: because when you sit him there, watch him listening, it's 166 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 2: the opposite of what. 167 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: He's He's a trade guy, he's a good guy. Yeah. 168 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: I got to take a break, but I'm so glad 169 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: you brought this aspect of how this should be portrayed. 170 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: The marketing of the better message, just you know, The 171 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: big question now is do we have time to do 172 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: it now between you know, the election. We're talking with 173 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: Tom del bacarl and we're talking about the midterm now. Well, 174 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: everything you say about messaging that Trump if he got 175 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: out there with these little town halls and all that, yes, wonderful. 176 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: Is there the time to do that between now and 177 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: then now being right now and then being the election 178 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: the actual midterm? 179 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, he can set the agenda whatever he wants. 180 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: If he shows up to a diner unannounced, he sets 181 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: the agenda. It's not difficult to do. And he should 182 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: do that. He should walk in on everyday people and 183 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: do that sort of thing. There's more than enough time 184 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: to do this. If the economy is going to be 185 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: doing well. Five six months from now, people get their 186 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: tax returns, they don't have to pay as much in 187 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: taxes filing. Yeah, so yeah, there's more than enough time. 188 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: It's exactly how Steve Hilton is handling it for the 189 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: Governor's thing. He will walk into some you know something 190 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: that's a little joint where people are having a bullet soup, 191 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: and he'll start and pretty soon there's forty fifty eighty 192 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: people there. He continues and he says they're fun. He's 193 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: done millions of them. Maybe the president he needs to 194 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: take a page out of that book. 195 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: Exactly because you know who, you know who the magician 196 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: Ben Folds is, Yes, I do, Yeah, Okay. Ben Folds said, 197 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: there's something connected about his piano playing. He has a 198 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: sense of rhythm on the piano that almost no one has. 199 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: And this is what I found interesting. He said, look 200 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 2: at the number of times he's been covered. Not many 201 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: for someone with so many of all time greatest hits. 202 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: There's a reason these songs are difficult to do. Who's 203 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: he talking about? 204 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: Oh so this is somebody that's been covered somebody. 205 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: No, he's saying, look at the number of times he's 206 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: been covered, And Ben says, not many for someone with 207 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: so many big hits. 208 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Elton John He's Yeah. 209 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: I tried to make this. I've had I've tried to 210 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: make this argument over the years because people want to 211 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: tell me how great Billy Joel is. And obviously Billy 212 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: Joel's a huge It's almost phenomenon what he was able 213 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, And if you would have picked him 214 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: out of a crowd as a teenager, you never would 215 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: have guessed it right, But Elton John's the complexity of 216 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: his composition, it's just it's not And even Billy Joel 217 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: said that guy does chords, not even what they are. 218 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: So I just thought it very I had never thought 219 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 2: about the fact that how little Elton John has covered 220 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: a couple are but not really, I just thought it 221 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: was interesting. 222 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: It is interesting, very interesting at very interesting times that 223 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: we're living in as well too, So getting getting back 224 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: to the old would we look when we look at 225 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: the midterms, it just seems to be a general rule 226 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: that if the Republicans are in control, the Democrats who 227 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: win the election. If the Democrats are in control, the 228 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: Republicans live the election win the election. It always seems 229 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: to be that way. Now listening to you, it sounds 230 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: like possibility that we have a chance of getting around 231 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: this if indeed, if we change things. If we don't 232 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: change things, are we going to wind up with the 233 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: same answer. The Democrats are going to be taking over 234 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: the House, and you know, we'll have the Senate by 235 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: just a smidge that I wouldn't like that too much. 236 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: Hopefully that doesn't happen. 237 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: But you framed it exactly right. Ray. Most time elections 238 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: are covered. And I've talked about this many times. They're 239 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: covered about what happened. They don't sit there and say, well, 240 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: the other side should have done X. And what if 241 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: you look at all the mid term elections, you find 242 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: that the party in the White House doesn't an agenda 243 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: and say this is what we're about to do and 244 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: really push it. So people are just determining whether they 245 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: like the moments, and of course the the fury's on 246 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: the opposition party, they're more motivated. How do you change 247 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: those dynamic dynamics? You know, the old Einstein thing, you know, 248 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: do the same thing. Insanity the definition of insanity. So 249 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: so if Republicans run on an agenda that the Democrats 250 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: are going to be against, the brilliance of what Trump 251 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: has done over the years is, for instance, he's about 252 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: to get Newsom to sue him because Trump wanted to 253 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: expedite the repair of LA. Now, I'm not sure if 254 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: if Newsom came to me and he said, do you 255 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: think it's a good idea, I assume him to stop 256 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: him from repairing LA, I'd be like, are you are 257 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: you are? You got your mind? 258 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: Excuse we had to bleep you, darn you. But that's over. 259 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely sorry about that, but it's true. Right. So 260 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: what Trump needs to do is send an agenda that 261 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: the Democrat are common sense, agenda that the Democrats will 262 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: be against, and let them, let them go crazy. And 263 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: and then Trump just simply says they haven't changed. Don't 264 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: go back to them, stay with us, and hear are 265 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: the great things we're going to do. 266 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: I love it, and I think we've got the proof 267 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: to even though they don't believe it, to say that, 268 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, these are affecting you. These things that that 269 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: you you are are picking out here are also making 270 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: your life. It's wonderful, these these questions that were asked 271 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: this morning Marco Rubio. I have to go back to 272 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: that by people like Duckworth and and and others. That 273 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: idiot that went to El salvad Or with with Albrego 274 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: Garcia to bring him back some of the things they 275 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: were talking about, you know that one center. It was 276 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 1: talking about how Trump's family was making so much money, 277 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: so much money overseas with the golf courses and the hotels, 278 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: and this is all things that Donald Trump has disconnected 279 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: himself from and he's even left it in such a 280 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: way as where the profits from some of those hotels 281 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: goes right straight back to the foreign ones, goes right 282 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: straight back into the treasury sector sector for a gift 283 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: to the American taxpayer to take the heat off of us. 284 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: And he doesn't get paid. Trump doesn't get paid for 285 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: any of this. So all of that is out there. 286 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: Not to mention, those clowns didn't say a word when 287 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: Joe Biden and family were getting all that money illegally 288 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: over you. 289 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: Took the words right out of my mouth exactly. This 290 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: is something that seems to have been long forgotten by 291 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: both sides, and I'm wondering if this is going to 292 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: be an issue this time around when we get into 293 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: the hot moments of the midterm. It should be. It 294 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: should be. I don't think we want them to think 295 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: that they we have forgotten all of this and it's 296 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: just going to go away magically, right. 297 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: Well, of course, when they if the economy is doing well, 298 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: and it will be what are the Democrats going to say, 299 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: the economy is going well, so we need to get 300 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: rid of Trump. No, they're going to They're going to lie. Look, 301 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: they kidknocked a five year old. They'll lie about anything. 302 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 2: Ice arrested a five year old. 303 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: They didn't do that, of course, Yeah, what was. 304 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: I supposed to do? Just leave the kid in the 305 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: street because the headline would have been ice abandoned child. Right. 306 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: So they'll lie about anything, and so that's why in 307 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 2: politics you either define or you are defined, right, And 308 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: so that's why Trump always moves ahead. I mean, most 309 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: people have forgotten about Venezuela right now. We're on the 310 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 2: a whole different set. We're about to be consumed with 311 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: their on over the next two weeks or three. Yes, 312 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: so he needs to keep the agenda going. But what 313 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: John mcglocklaun polling shows is that when voters found out 314 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: the truth, they're not so negative. And so you have 315 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: to place in these day and age, you have to 316 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: place the truth in their hands. And that means like 317 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 2: Trump did when he first got elected, going around the 318 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: media like he initially did with Twitter. 319 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: My brother in Rock and roll, I've got to say, 320 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: tata because I've got to do news now. Is there 321 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: anything else you'd like to add? 322 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: No, no, no, We're good. I do have a cool announcement 323 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 2: the next time I come on. Oh, we'll make it. 324 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: You're going to be a father again. 325 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: Next time. No, stop, you're not going to. 326 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: Try for a daughter at age seventy? What are you now? 327 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: You're not going to do this wow at age eight? 328 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: Who's always getting me about the age? Huh? Who fires 329 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: these singers at me? 330 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: Huh? I know, I was. I got to say, I 331 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: was initially confused. You said you'd like Cleveland. I assume 332 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 2: it was because of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, 333 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: But no, you actually met Grover Cleveland. All right, we'll talk. 334 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: You know, my grandfather's name was no Grover Cleveland Appleton. 335 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: I swear to God, So you know my paternal grandfather. 336 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: His house is three miles from me, right here where 337 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: I am. Really, i'll be back in California soon. We 338 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: got to talk about that too. 339 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: We'll come over and see me sometime at the house. 340 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: It's three miles from you. Yeah. Yeah, let's let's get 341 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: together when you come back to California. 342 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 2: Please. 343 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: And one of these days you got to bring that 344 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: kid back out here. Dog gone it. That's the cutest 345 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: kid I've ever seen. Thank you. We'll talk later. Tom 346 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: Delbacar on Kmjay, have you seen his boy? 347 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: Mean? 348 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: Tom's a little older and his wife is also a 349 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: little older. When they called me and said we're pregnant. 350 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, how did that happen? But oh, 351 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: they produced a lovely little lad. I adore him and 352 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: I've never even met him. But that's just that cute, 353 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: just one cute kid. The only thing I say is 354 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: one cute kid. All Right, it's time for news from 355 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: one cute kid who did a lot of movies and 356 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: was real famous. She's a good screamer too. Here's Liz