Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the
Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2: And now, here's Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1: Humanoid robots in China are breaking human records for speed,
Speaker 1: running 100 meter faster than sprinter Usain Bolt. At the
Speaker 1: humanoid games, machines big and small also compete in events
Speaker 1: where they hit hard and jump high.
Speaker 3: The event in its second.
Speaker 1: Year being promoted heavily by China's government and shows how
Speaker 1: getting ahead in robotics is a national priority here.
Speaker 2: Well, at least they don't have AI brains. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: the control room is talking to me. Oh, my God.
Speaker 2: China working as fast and as hard as they can
Speaker 2: to have AI-driven, guided superhuman robots.
Speaker 3: Well, for some reason, the most disturbing one recently I've
Speaker 3: heard is when they talked about, I think it was
Speaker 3: that same report, that they're testing them in extreme cold
Speaker 3: and extreme heat. I mean, you ain't doing that just
Speaker 3: because you want to display how your robot can run
Speaker 3: really fast. No, no, no, no. You're building super soldiers.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And that's horrifying. Now we all, you've probably seen the
Speaker 3: video of the sprinters then running into the wall and
Speaker 3: flipping over on their backs like turtles and their legs
Speaker 3: flailing around. But I'm sure they'll get that worked out.
Speaker 2: Well, and if they have 5,000 coming at you in
Speaker 2: your position, then, you know, the one that runs into
Speaker 2: a tree is briefly amusing. Let's continue on a couple
Speaker 2: of other accounts of where we are in this situation. 50, Michael.
Speaker 4: China's made embodied AI, which is essentially AI in a
Speaker 4: physical body, a national priority. And the government has backed research,
Speaker 4: training centers and real world testing as so many Chinese
Speaker 4: universities and companies have raced to build better robot bodies
Speaker 4: and even smarter robot brains.
Speaker 2: To help build cars, right? Next clip.
Speaker 1: Engineer Yang Kun says this robot has other real-life capabilities.
Speaker 3: It can also do some combat and maybe go into
Speaker 3: the military. How far away are we from having robot soldiers?
Speaker 3: I think five to ten years. The fact that most
Speaker 3: news reports never mention that is hilarious. Of course, we
Speaker 3: beat up David Muir of ABC last week. That should
Speaker 3: have been a scandal. That should have been the damn
Speaker 3: scandal that David Muir actually goes to China to watch
Speaker 3: the robots do their thing and talks up how amazing
Speaker 3: the robots are. Look how high this one can jump.
Speaker 3: And don't have anybody on to say... You know, there
Speaker 3: are military capabilities or aspects to this whole story. And
Speaker 3: then the fact that this company, their IPO released the
Speaker 3: next day at a super high. So ABC did an
Speaker 3: ad for a Chinese company, which means you're doing it
Speaker 3: for the Chinese Communist Party because they're all tied together.
Speaker 3: ABC did an ad for a Chinese company touting their
Speaker 3: robots and didn't even brush up against the topic of
Speaker 3: the military use.
Speaker 2: Didn't even have a five second clip of some academic saying,
Speaker 2: on the other hand, this is clearly dual uses. It
Speaker 2: could be employed by them. Didn't even bother.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 3: That's the only reason they're doing what that and and
Speaker 3: and and factories, because there's that aspect, too. If if
Speaker 3: China beats us in the AI race or if they're
Speaker 3: better at it. There's no reason Elon claims our economy
Speaker 3: is going to be 30 times bigger in 20 years
Speaker 3: or whatever it is, and it will just be a
Speaker 3: wash in money. There's no reason China's can't do the
Speaker 3: same thing.
Speaker 2: Sure. Right. And to your point about the Chinese maker
Speaker 2: of humanoid robots and its stunning trading debut on their
Speaker 2: stock exchange to achieve the market value of $ 51 billion
Speaker 2: like day one, I haven't seen how it's done lately.
Speaker 2: But Unitree Robotics is the first humanoid maker to list
Speaker 2: in mainland China and stands at the forefront of the
Speaker 2: geopolitical competition between Washington and Beijing. Last month, the U.S.
Speaker 2: banned most imports of new humanoid robot models, citing an
Speaker 2: immediate national security threat. It's funny that didn't make ABC News.
Speaker 3: You're a traitor to your country, David Muir. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3: That is just outlandish. That you presented that as a
Speaker 3: feel-good kind of fun story, that China has these amazing
Speaker 3: robots that look like guys and can jump really high
Speaker 3: and run really fast and stand extreme temperatures and not
Speaker 3: at all be a grown-up about the story. You're a traitor,
Speaker 3: David Muir. I hate you. I actually hate you.
Speaker 2: Yep, indeed. I'm not even going to call him a
Speaker 2: bent-nose jackass because these charges are much more serious, so
Speaker 2: I won't distract you. For what it's worth, and this
Speaker 2: story came out in the Wall Street Journal the day
Speaker 2: after that commercial for the communist robot maker. For its part,
Speaker 2: the Chinese government has identified, quote, embodied artificial intelligence, meaning
Speaker 2: robots and other devices that apply AI to the physical world.
Speaker 2: That's one of their six future industries expected to drive
Speaker 2: the economy over the next five years. It is among
Speaker 2: their highest priorities.
Speaker 3: Last week, a payment company called Stripe that I'd never
Speaker 3: heard of in my life said that AI has achieved
Speaker 3: the long-awaited singularity, which is a term that gets thrown
Speaker 3: around by computer AI types, which is when you reach
Speaker 3: the point that AI can improve itself beyond what humans
Speaker 3: can contribute. It's improving itself. Lots of companies have declared
Speaker 3: that we're there or we're a week from there. And
Speaker 3: then some experts come along and say it'll never happen.
Speaker 3: But if it does happen, Katie barred the door. I
Speaker 3: can't believe I'm going to live through watching this unfold.
Speaker 3: It's kind of exciting while being terrifying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I, for one, welcome our Chinese communist robot overlords.
Speaker 2: Given the fact that they can be not only directed remotely,
Speaker 2: which we're used to in drone warfare, but they can
Speaker 2: be sent forth with, and we talked about this in
Speaker 2: aerial drones yesterday, specifically Russia, now sending entirely AI-driven drones
Speaker 2: into Ukraine. And they have specific targets, but they're told, hey,
Speaker 2: if you can identify a good target, go ahead and
Speaker 2: blow it up. You have thousands of these robots with
Speaker 2: similar programming. To say it'll change the face of warfare
Speaker 2: is a hilarious understatement.
Speaker 3: Well, and then if we actually hit the singularity at
Speaker 3: some point, change the face of warfare, change the face
Speaker 3: of absolutely everything on planet Earth so fast, you realize,
Speaker 3: and Elon's talked about this, lots of people have, if
Speaker 3: it actually happens, ASI, artificial superintelligence, where it can learn
Speaker 3: on its own, and the speed at which it will learn,
Speaker 3: everything will be different in a week. I mean, everything
Speaker 3: you assumed about everything, investment, warfare, medicine, you know, throw
Speaker 3: in some good stuff, education. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: have time to worry about the good stuff because all
Speaker 3: the bad stuff will be so scary. But we'll change
Speaker 3: so rapidly. It's just, it's unimaginable where this is going.
Speaker 3: I hope it can't happen. I hope that the singularity
Speaker 3: for real can't happen, but that wouldn't be my bet.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I can't take being poor again. I didn't like it
Speaker 2: the first time. I'm a hell of a lot less
Speaker 2: tough than I used to be.
Speaker 3: It's like the Louis C.K. thing that I've mentioned several times,
Speaker 3: the comedian, where he says, I'm in the rare situation
Speaker 3: where I've had my financial advisor tell me twice, you
Speaker 3: now have a million dollars. First time was awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Second time, not so much. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oof. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Our AI overlords have shut down the entire banking system,
Speaker 2: and there's no way to access your investments. I mean,
Speaker 2: all they were were zeros and ones anyway. So, yeah, sorry, Joe.
Speaker 2: We got an opening down at the shoe store. Oh, no,
Speaker 2: we don't. There's a robot doing it.
Speaker 3: What the f * * * type of AI s * * *
Speaker 3: is this?
Speaker 2: That's what we're asking.
Speaker 3: I was watching an interview with Elon. Well, I'll tell
Speaker 3: you about what I saw with Elon right after this.
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Speaker 3: saw the United States has, do I need to feed
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Speaker 3: So while we're talking... CBS has the highlights and lowlights
Speaker 3: of the robot games, which were way more to it
Speaker 3: than I realized. It was like the Olympic Games. They
Speaker 3: had all these different sports. They had a march in
Speaker 3: like the teams do.
Speaker 6: Oh, boy.
Speaker 3: It's really extraordinary. I'm watching boxing now.
Speaker 1: Oh, boy.
Speaker 3: Gymnastics, wow, tumbling, doing, you know, jumps in the air
Speaker 3: like you're Simone Biles and landing on your feet, weightlifting,
Speaker 3: all the different stuff these robots are doing today. And,
Speaker 3: you know, we're not even to the super amazing AI
Speaker 3: that's coming any day.
Speaker 7: Just..
Speaker 3: Anyway, the video that made me laugh was the sprint
Speaker 3: that everybody's talked about so much outran Usain Bolt. And
Speaker 3: so they don't stop. They run into the wall. They
Speaker 3: flip over. Their legs are flailing. And then a bunch
Speaker 3: of people run out with hoses and fire extinguishers and
Speaker 3: start spraying them because I guess they thought they were
Speaker 3: going to burst into flames or something. I don't know
Speaker 3: what's going on there.
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow. I missed that part. That's kind of funny.
Speaker 3: I know. I had not seen that. Who cut off
Speaker 3: the video so we didn't see that part? Who's behind
Speaker 3: the robot games?
Speaker 2: The Chinese Communist Party.
Speaker 3: You're right. China's humanoid robot dominance is the headline on CBS.
Speaker 3: And I wonder, I'm going to have to go back
Speaker 3: and watch this report that's on there right now, Hanson.
Speaker 3: They even have robot cheerleaders with bomb bombs. Part of
Speaker 3: the robot games was showing robots like in a factory setting,
Speaker 3: filling bottles with the liquid and putting a lid on
Speaker 3: it and moving it down the line, which is its
Speaker 3: own interesting thing.
Speaker 2: Right, right. There shouldn't be two practically unimaginable horrors weighing
Speaker 2: on us in a given day. But you got your
Speaker 2: artificial general intelligence. Even if we don't hit that, I'm
Speaker 2: picturing war, conquest. Let's let's use conquest with no human cost,
Speaker 2: just financial cost. sending armies of robots, you know, they
Speaker 2: got a lot of oil over there. Never mind U.S.
Speaker 2: sanctions and buying Iran's oil. We'll just send a robot
Speaker 2: army in, terrorize them until they give in, say, all right,
Speaker 2: you're in charge now. How much conquest will there be
Speaker 2: around the world when there's no cost in soldiers or
Speaker 2: vanishingly small?
Speaker 3: The rules will be the same they've been since the
Speaker 3: dawn of man and will be forever. It's the saying
Speaker 3: you always have, the strong do what they can and
Speaker 3: the weak do what they must, or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Not close enough, yeah.
Speaker 3: The only thing you can do is be rich enough
Speaker 3: and powerful enough that you can stop the evildoers from
Speaker 3: taking you over, I guess. But anyway, my question is
Speaker 3: going to be, did CBS News touch on the military
Speaker 3: likelihood of this stuff? Or did they pretend that this
Speaker 3: is all just kind of fun and games and look,
Speaker 3: the the robots can box. Let's screw up, people. Let's
Speaker 3: quit pretending that that's what China or we are doing
Speaker 3: with robots. They were just trying to like just it's
Speaker 3: like a sophomore high school science experiment. Oh, my God,
Speaker 3: this robot can jump this high. No, it's about creating
Speaker 3: super soldiers. And, you know, it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So let's not pretend that it's not.
Speaker 2: Is ABC Disney trying to make inroads in China and
Speaker 2: they agreed to run that two minute commercial?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's got to be an explanation.
Speaker 3: Hey, news organizations.
Speaker 2: They couldn't possibly be that stupid and incompetent.
Speaker 3: No, you wouldn't think so. Hey, news organizations, if you
Speaker 3: don't at least have a think tank guy who says
Speaker 3: now the military capabilities or applications of these robots are
Speaker 3: terrifying and here's how, then you're either a bad journalist
Speaker 3: or you are not a patriot because that's what's going
Speaker 3: on here. Let's not fool ourselves. China is asshole. Well,
Speaker 3: there's that too.
Speaker 2: So is David Muir.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 3: That was devastating. Text line, if you have any comments
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Speaker 9: President Trump threatening Canadian leaders to fall in line as
Speaker 9: he threatens to impose new 50% tariffs on car parts,
Speaker 9: cars and steel. On top of the steep tariffs he's
Speaker 9: already imposed on furniture, textiles, building supplies and alcohol. Canada responding,
Speaker 9: vowing to impose a dollar for dollar tariff on their own.
Speaker 9: The president brushing that off, writing on social media, we
Speaker 9: don't need Canada.
Speaker 2: They need us.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Truth social post today from Donald Trump saying something like
Speaker 3: I don't have in front of me, but something like
Speaker 3: Canada took 60 billion dollars from us last year. That
Speaker 3: ends now. That sort of thing. So you have some
Speaker 3: breaking news. Is that going to ruin the fun of
Speaker 3: this or is it fit in with this or what?
Speaker 3: Should we do the fun first and then what do
Speaker 3: you want to do?
Speaker 2: Well, Canada's, as promised, announced retaliatory tariffs of up to
Speaker 2: 50 percent on roughly 700 products as the acrimony between
Speaker 2: Ottawa and Washington escalates.
Speaker 3: So the tariffs on the really serious stuff like cars
Speaker 3: and aluminum and steel don't start till January. My guess
Speaker 3: would be that never happens. So who's Doug Ford now?
Speaker 3: We used to enjoy his brother so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his brother has passed, unfortunately. Doug Ford is the
Speaker 2: head guy in the province of Ontario, a highly populous
Speaker 2: and important trade partner of the United States.
Speaker 3: His brother was a big-time politician who was so fun,
Speaker 3: but then became a drug addict and went off the
Speaker 3: rails and died. Anyway, here's what Doug Ford had to
Speaker 3: say about all this yesterday.
Speaker 8: Well, he can kiss my ass as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 8: We're going to go at him full steam. We need
Speaker 8: to throw everything in the kitchen sink at him. He's arrogant.
Speaker 8: He's cocky. And, you know, as Ronald Reagan said, if
Speaker 8: you come to a draw with a bully, what stops
Speaker 8: that bully from coming after you the next day and
Speaker 8: the next day? And that's all Donald Trump is, is
Speaker 8: a bully.
Speaker 3: Are we going to let politicians in Canada say kiss
Speaker 3: my ass to the president of the United States? A
Speaker 3: reporter asked Doug Ford about his controversial comments.
Speaker 4: You sound a little more subdued than you did this
Speaker 4: morning on the radio when you said, Donald Trump could
Speaker 4: kiss your ass, did the Prime Minister ask you to
Speaker 4: tone it down a bit?
Speaker 6: No, he didn't. I'm not going to comment, but he
Speaker 6: wasn't against that. And I have a lot of real
Speaker 6: estate on my ass, so he has a lot of
Speaker 6: room to kiss my ass.
Speaker 8: I just do. I'm a big dude.
Speaker 6: What can I say?
Speaker 3: That's Doug Ford mentioning how many centimeters across his ass
Speaker 3: is as they use the metric system up there. Use inches,
Speaker 3: you furrner. One more clip from Doug Ford.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm not going to, I'm just not going
Speaker 6: to take the bait. This guy's a loser. He's going
Speaker 6: to be a loser. And simple as that. We're going
Speaker 6: to fight with everything we have. And, uh, you know,
Speaker 6: something I have more courage, more brains in my baby
Speaker 6: toe than he has in his whole body. So there
Speaker 6: you go.
Speaker 2: That's not helping.
Speaker 3: No, it's not.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 3: You're you're you're. Yeah. I don't like that.
Speaker 2: Hey, you know, it's a whole trade deficit thing. Number one.
Speaker 2: having a trade deficit with somebody isn't getting ripped off.
Speaker 2: It just has to do with who has more wealth
Speaker 2: and who has what somebody wants to buy. Secondly, we
Speaker 2: would have a trade surplus with Canada, except that we
Speaker 2: buy so much of its crude oil, which is particularly
Speaker 2: well suited to our refineries. So I just, I don't know.
Speaker 2: The whole tariff thing, especially because it's raising prices at
Speaker 2: precisely the wrong moment to hang on to the Senate
Speaker 2: and the House and And God help us if Democrats
Speaker 2: get control of government. The woke thing will be resurgent.
Speaker 3: How about the whole rhetoric thing, though? Well, could we
Speaker 3: get to like Doug Ford? Of course, you don't get
Speaker 3: near as much attention in politics as politics all around
Speaker 3: the world. You want to get attention. You want to
Speaker 3: look like a fighter. You want to get donations. But
Speaker 3: could you just make solid economic arguments for why what
Speaker 3: Trump is doing is a bad idea?
Speaker 2: As opposed to kiss my ass, kiss my extra fat ass. Well,
Speaker 2: because then you get supporters on both sides. They want
Speaker 2: the ass kickings as opposed to the policies. My ass is.
Speaker 3: So giant, kiss it.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: He said it in English. We don't need you to translate, Jack. Okay.
Speaker 3: So we'll get into some of the other stories of
Speaker 3: the day that we have to touch on also.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3: The Armstrong and Getty Show. South Carolina is going to
Speaker 3: decide today whether or not Lindsey Graham's sister should be
Speaker 3: the Republican nominee for the Senate. I'm a no on that.
Speaker 3: We got a little more on that coming up.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And whoever the Republican is, is most likely
Speaker 2: almost entirely certain to be the senator. So impactful indeed.
Speaker 3: Jesse Waters.
Speaker 2: Jesse Waters had. Abdul Al-Said, the Michigander Islamist candidate for
Speaker 2: the Senate on last night on Fox News. And they
Speaker 2: talked about a number of different topics. We're just going
Speaker 2: to touch on a couple of them. First of all, Al-Said,
Speaker 2: who I believe to be an Islamist masquerading as a
Speaker 2: Marxist in the time-honored Red-Green Alliance.
Speaker 3: Because he thinks there are lots of votes to be
Speaker 3: had by the young socialist crowd? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly far more votes because he knows how to
Speaker 2: speak in code to the Muslim audience. And I've got
Speaker 2: a hundred examples of him speaking in code to them,
Speaker 2: telling them, don't worry, I am developed. I'm hardcore. I
Speaker 2: am with you that the American press either doesn't pick
Speaker 2: up on or has no desire to pick up on.
Speaker 2: So yeah, he, he signals he's a man of the
Speaker 2: left and tries to get the youthful lefty vote. Anyway,
Speaker 2: they talked about socialized healthcare here.
Speaker 10: You say you want socialized healthcare.
Speaker 3: Abdul, how much is that going to cost?
Speaker 5: Well, It's gonna cost the average Michigander a whole lot
Speaker 5: less than they pay right now. But I'm just gonna
Speaker 5: tell you, I'm up against a guy who voted to
Speaker 5: raise prescription drug prices 19 times, 19 times, right? And
Speaker 5: so I'm just saying, I wanna bring your costs down.
Speaker 5: The price of the program is gonna be substantially less
Speaker 5: for an everyday person who's out here who can't afford
Speaker 5: their healthcare and worried about losing their healthcare.
Speaker 3: With their job. Give me the total number.
Speaker 5: While you're out here trying to talk about the broader
Speaker 5: national budget, I'm a lot more interested in the everyday
Speaker 5: budgets that Michiganders are thinking about. And that's exactly the
Speaker 5: budget that Donald Trump and Mike Rogers are blowing up
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 3: And they got into, I think Jesse hit him with,
Speaker 3: it costs $ 17 trillion or whatever it would be to
Speaker 3: have Medicare for 10 years. But I hate that whole
Speaker 3: argument because it's a difficult one to win. The cost
Speaker 3: for your crowd that's standing in front of you and
Speaker 3: cheering is going to go They think down the taxes
Speaker 3: are going to cover it. But you're like what you
Speaker 3: what you pay at the doctor and all that will
Speaker 3: be much, much cheaper. And that's all people care about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed. It's actually a pretty winning political argument. As
Speaker 2: Obamacare showed us, there's nothing more expensive than cheap government medicine.
Speaker 3: Half the country doesn't pay taxes. They don't care that
Speaker 3: taxes are.
Speaker 4: Going to go up.
Speaker 2: Exactly. And they have no concept of the threat of
Speaker 2: the debt. But nobody wants to hear about that. They
Speaker 2: talked about sex changes for minors. We played that earlier.
Speaker 2: If you'd like to hear it, just grab the podcast,
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty on Demand. You ought to subscribe anyway.
Speaker 2: Here they're talking about boys and girls sports.
Speaker 3: Boys playing in girls sports.
Speaker 5: I'm not advocating anything.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying. What about that? So the question, so.
Speaker 5: Again, like Jesse, you have not asked me one time
Speaker 5: about the issues that people actually care about in Michigan.
Speaker 5: You don't want to talk about gas prices. You don't
Speaker 5: want to talk about groceries. You don't want to talk
Speaker 5: about health care. You don't want to talk about the
Speaker 5: stupid trade war that's about to destroy Michigan's economy. We
Speaker 5: spent the whole interview talking about that stuff. That's destroying Michigan.
Speaker 5: that is destroying our own military. You don't seem to
Speaker 5: want to talk about any of those things. You want
Speaker 5: to bring up all this culture war that, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm not here to fight a culture war, I'm here
Speaker 5: to fight the affordability crisis that people are facing.
Speaker 3: We talked about the war, we talked about gas prices
Speaker 3: in the Green New Deal, okay?
Speaker 10: If you want to do an interview, you can do
Speaker 10: the interview, okay?
Speaker 3: You're asking me like, I'll ask the questions.
Speaker 5: Jesse, like, I mean, this is, like, you can play
Speaker 5: this game if you want, but like, you can keep
Speaker 5: doing the greatest hits if you want. You told me
Speaker 5: we're going to come up for a conversation, and when
Speaker 5: we have conversations, I think it's okay to also ask questions.
Speaker 5: I just want to understand what you're getting at here.
Speaker 10: I'm getting at whether you think men should play in
Speaker 10: women's sports. I'm interested in getting money out of politics,
Speaker 10: putting money in your pocket, and passing Medicare for all.
Speaker 10: Most people don't care about what sports kids play.
Speaker 3: You're filibustering. It's a big issue.
Speaker 10: You guys kind of lost on that issue last time.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: So you want to answer that question? I love the
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm a fan of the sport of running
Speaker 3: for office and people do it. And like, I think
Speaker 3: that's really clever. So even though they covered those topics
Speaker 3: earlier in the interview, because he understands the younger crowd
Speaker 3: understands Hassan Piker, El-Sayed, Gavin Newsom, people understand the way
Speaker 3: information gets out in the world now. Most people aren't
Speaker 3: sitting down watching the whole interview. They're going to get
Speaker 3: sound bites. And so a sound bite that lands where
Speaker 3: they're asking you about boys and girls sports and you
Speaker 3: hit the. That's not what I'm here to talk about.
Speaker 3: Michiganders care about the price of gas and care about.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if you talked about it earlier in
Speaker 3: the interview. People aren't going to hear the earlier interview.
Speaker 3: They're going to hear this clip and think, you know,
Speaker 3: what I do care about is the price of gas
Speaker 3: more than transports. And it's a great way to avoid
Speaker 3: answering the hard questions. You get up on your high
Speaker 3: horse and lecture people again. Yeah, it's quite effective. Jesse
Speaker 3: makes a final brave attempt to get an answer. You
Speaker 3: won't answer the question.
Speaker 2: What issue?
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Jesse.
Speaker 5: What issue?
Speaker 3: Should men play women's sports?
Speaker 2: You have daughters, right?
Speaker 5: I think that... Look, I played sports my whole life.
Speaker 5: Sports were an important part of my life. I'm grateful
Speaker 5: for the opportunity to play sports. And at the end
Speaker 5: of the day, the decision of who gets to play
Speaker 5: what sports ought to be decided by the people who
Speaker 5: govern sports. I'm running for U.S. Senate.
Speaker 3: Jesse is insane.
Speaker 5: I'm out here trying to take on like the health
Speaker 5: care crisis and big pharma. And you're asking me about who.
Speaker 2: Gets to play what sports.
Speaker 3: It's kind of a big thing. If you've been following
Speaker 3: the news recently, Abdul.
Speaker 2: He's skilled, for sure.
Speaker 3: Darn right it is. And, you know, you keep getting
Speaker 3: back to... I mean, you look at any of the polling,
Speaker 3: how expensive it is to live dominates everything. So you
Speaker 3: just keep hammering that over and over again.
Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's a legitimate issue.
Speaker 3: Anybody who won't just flat out say, no, dudes shouldn't
Speaker 3: play girls' sports, is okay with it, obviously.
Speaker 2: But... Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: As long as he doesn't have a soundbite out there
Speaker 3: getting to the understanding the way modern media works, as
Speaker 3: long as he doesn't have a soundbite out there where
Speaker 3: he comes out on the wrong side of it for
Speaker 3: a lot of his young voters, it's a win for him.
Speaker 2: It's probably worth saying that his economic prescriptions would accomplish
Speaker 2: exactly the opposite of what he's claiming they would. They
Speaker 2: would be an absolute disaster that would bankrupt America and
Speaker 2: reduce everyone to misery. But he's a skilled politician. He's dangerous.
Speaker 2: He's a very, very dangerous man.
Speaker 3: We don't have that clip, I think, but he got into,
Speaker 3: is health care a right? He kept hammering Jesse Waters on,
Speaker 3: and Jesse wouldn't answer that question. I would be happy
Speaker 3: to answer health care is not a right. I don't
Speaker 3: see why health care is a right. I don't understand
Speaker 3: why government-provided health care is considered a right. And once
Speaker 3: you go down the road of housing is a right,
Speaker 3: health care is a right, all kinds of different things,
Speaker 3: things get very ugly very fast.
Speaker 2: Right. Do you believe that like life-saving health care is
Speaker 2: a right?
Speaker 3: What would that be? Give me an example of life-saving
Speaker 3: health care.
Speaker 2: I show up to the emergency room. I got no money,
Speaker 2: but I'm bleeding. They stop the bleeding.
Speaker 3: I wondered about this the other day when I mentioned
Speaker 3: this Uber driver I had who is from Egypt, I think,
Speaker 3: wherever he is from. But he was talking about how
Speaker 3: amazing it is in the United States to We actually
Speaker 3: got on the top because we heard sirens and he
Speaker 3: pulled over to the right in an ambulance whereby. And
Speaker 3: he said, that's one of the great things I love
Speaker 3: about the United States. You know, somebody is having an
Speaker 3: emergency somewhere and everybody gets out of the way. So
Speaker 3: the ambulance said that does not happen anywhere else in
Speaker 3: the world. I don't know about anywhere else in the world,
Speaker 3: but it didn't happen for him. He said ambulances just
Speaker 3: sit there in traffic with their sirens blaring, trying to
Speaker 3: get to the bleeding person. Nobody will move over to
Speaker 3: let him out, which is well. And then he used
Speaker 3: the example of, um, You know, you could have a
Speaker 3: heart attack somewhere or have an accident up in the
Speaker 3: woods or whatever, and they send a life flight helicopter
Speaker 3: to get you and everything like that. Yeah, so we
Speaker 3: decided long ago as a country, obviously, that we're willing
Speaker 3: to do that. We don't stop and say, we need
Speaker 3: to see your card, you there on the side of
Speaker 3: the mountain, having fallen down the rocks, trying to climb
Speaker 3: up Half Dome or whatever, to decide whether or not
Speaker 3: we're going to save you. We send a life card.
Speaker 3: flight helicopter there and somebody pays for that somehow. So
Speaker 3: obviously we've decided as a society that is.
Speaker 2: A right, I guess. Uh, yes.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We absolutely in the Western world cherish life in a
Speaker 2: way that a lot of the rest of the world doesn't. Uh,
Speaker 2: sometimes to a fault, we become so obsessed with safety
Speaker 2: as a society that we've become, you know, very, very
Speaker 2: soft and raised kids who are full of anxiousness because
Speaker 2: they've not been allowed to explore the world. Um, So, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it's all, you know, there are positive and
Speaker 2: negative aspects to all of this.
Speaker 3: But apparently we decided that as a society, and I
Speaker 3: don't know quite how that breaks down. But aside from that,
Speaker 3: you don't have to go back very many years, and
Speaker 3: we seem to have a system that worked where we
Speaker 3: had a deal where... hospitals and doctors and for-profit hospitals
Speaker 3: were going to offer a service, and we were going
Speaker 3: to pay for it, and we were willing to pay
Speaker 3: what they were charging, and they were making enough money.
Speaker 3: In fact, doctors were always considered wealthy. That's not quite
Speaker 3: the case anymore, but it used to be. And they
Speaker 3: were happy with the deal they were getting, and so
Speaker 3: you had a baby in 1955, and they charged you
Speaker 3: a certain amount, and you paid a certain amount, and
Speaker 3: everybody was happy.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: Surely there's a way to make that work, that system.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, people like Craig Gotwals, who we talk to semi-regularly,
Speaker 2: Craig the healthcare guru, are trying to get it back
Speaker 2: to something like that. But man, there's a tremendous amount
Speaker 2: of money being made. And as Craig frequently points out,
Speaker 2: in America, 60 plus percent of healthcare dollars are through
Speaker 2: the government. And in blue states, it's even more. And
Speaker 2: so you've got the trillions of dollars being spent on
Speaker 2: healthcare that are growing rapidly. the power of politicians and enriching,
Speaker 2: you know, the various companies involved. So, yeah, dismantling that.
Speaker 2: Good luck.
Speaker 3: And Craig always points out we're already like in California, what,
Speaker 3: two thirds, three quarters down the road toward government health care.
Speaker 3: But I don't think you can argue against this. The
Speaker 3: further we have gone down the road to health care
Speaker 3: is a right. Things have gotten worse, more expensive, slower,
Speaker 3: more annoying.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Bureaucratic and impenetrable yeah 100.
Speaker 3: And is there any pushback to this argument that people
Speaker 3: like me make all the time that if we go
Speaker 3: full government health care before you know it it'll be
Speaker 3: like going to the dmv.
Speaker 2: I have never heard a lefty address that argument i
Speaker 2: sure think that's what would happen it would be as
Speaker 2: annoying as going to the.
Speaker 3: Dmv Except you have cancer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Except for you have cancer. You're hoping to
Speaker 2: get some treatment for cancer. Hey, you're going to get it.
Speaker 2: We'll start in nine weeks. But you just told me
Speaker 2: my cancer is fast growing. Nine weeks, sir. Can you
Speaker 2: please step aside?
Speaker 3: Or because I went to the DMV with my son
Speaker 3: recently and I set him up for it. I said,
Speaker 3: just let you know, like. 80 percent of the time
Speaker 3: in my life when I go to the DMV and
Speaker 3: think I've got all the forms, they tell you you
Speaker 3: don't and you have to come back. And sure enough,
Speaker 3: that's what happened to us. Oh, no, no, this isn't
Speaker 3: the right. You need that one. I said, where does
Speaker 3: it say that? And and so you got to go
Speaker 3: back home and get a different summer. That's what it's
Speaker 3: going to be, except you have cancer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the lady in that line told me I needed
Speaker 2: open-heart surgery. Well, she was wrong, sir. You need to
Speaker 2: fill out this form, all right? Oh, but she said... Next! Yeah,
Speaker 2: that'll be medical care. Great. Super. Oh, my God. Yeah, boy,
Speaker 2: I don't like the modern world. I need a time machine.
Speaker 3: That'd be cool.
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3: I built a time machine, but it only goes forward
Speaker 3: at regular speed.
Speaker 2: I've always loved that joke.
Speaker 3: Climb in this box. When you climb out, it will
Speaker 3: be the future. If you're there for an hour, it
Speaker 3: will be an hour later. Uh, yeah. So I do
Speaker 3: want to get to Lindsey Graham's sister run. Maybe we'll
Speaker 3: kick off our four with that. What replay, what you
Speaker 3: said in the debate, replay a current sitting, uh, high
Speaker 3: office Republican who says that's just fine. And her response to,
Speaker 3: you don't know anything about foreign policy and you want
Speaker 3: to be U.S. She had a response to that yesterday
Speaker 3: on the campaign trail, and they're voting today in South Carolina.
Speaker 3: So we'll get into that in hour four, among other
Speaker 3: things on the way. Armstrong and.
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Speaker 7: A Dodgers minor league team paid tribute to a California
Speaker 7: legend on Sunday. Jackie the bald eagle was honored with
Speaker 7: a fly high Jackie night, the team donating about 10,000
Speaker 7: in ticket sales to the nonprofit that operates those big
Speaker 7: bear nature camps. Jackie died earlier this month, but as
Speaker 7: one of the organizers put it, she'll be the queen
Speaker 7: of big bear forever.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to react to that.
Speaker 8: Hmm.
Speaker 3: Dodgers minor league team pays tribute to Jackie the Eagle.
Speaker 3: Eagles don't have names. Who was beaten to death by
Speaker 3: other Eagles.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: Which I didn't realize that, and we got into that
Speaker 3: Friday after you left. I'd heard that Jackie the Eagle died.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize she was beaten to death by other Eagles,
Speaker 3: which makes the story.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a car accident.
Speaker 3: Which makes the story not, I mean, you can't keep
Speaker 3: going down the cutesy road you started on, can you?
Speaker 3: With the name and the eagle cam and we're all
Speaker 3: loving it and look they can fly and all the
Speaker 3: different sorts of things. And then have the ending be
Speaker 3: beaten to death by other eagles. That's why you pretend
Speaker 3: it didn't happen. But then continue the cutesy story.
Speaker 2: Right. That's the power of narrative. It's funny because I,
Speaker 2: next hour, I'll pay this off. You are completely wasting
Speaker 2: your time arguing with these socialists. I've got a perfect
Speaker 2: example of that. They don't want to hear it. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: they just leave out the beaten to death by other
Speaker 2: eagles thing and then say things like Jackie's gone, but
Speaker 2: we'll be the queen of Big Bear forever. Good Lord, Katie.
Speaker 3: It's really sad. The Big Bear camera is still live
Speaker 3: and it's just an empty nest with a lone feather
Speaker 3: floating around in it.
Speaker 8: Morbid.
Speaker 3: Well, what did he say there at the beginning? That Jackie,
Speaker 3: the hero of something or other?
Speaker 2: Go ahead and play it.
Speaker 7: A Dodgers minor league team paid tribute to a California
Speaker 7: legend on Sunday.
Speaker 3: A California legend.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: An eagle that we paid attention to was beaten to
Speaker 3: death by other eagles, as I said Friday. I want
Speaker 3: those eagles brought to justice.
Speaker 2: Sure. California, they'll put them back on the streets or
Speaker 2: Trees or something, you know.
Speaker 3: Trial of their peers, not hawks, not crows, peers, the
Speaker 3: other eagles.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: What a weird story. The human part's the weird story.
Speaker 3: And I didn't know eagles killed each other like that.
Speaker 3: Update on the WNBA story with the two former NBA
Speaker 3: players who want to play in the league to blow
Speaker 3: up the whole trans argument. The WNBA reportedly says Enos
Speaker 3: Cantner Freedom and Royce White are ineligible for the 2027 draft.
Speaker 3: They announced this yesterday. Unnamed league sources called the former
Speaker 3: NBA players declaration simply a publicity stunt. After both said
Speaker 3: they were entering the draft amid the debate over transgender
Speaker 3: athletes and women's sports. It's not really much of a
Speaker 3: debate because it's like 90-10. So when something is 90-10,
Speaker 3: we consider that a settled debate. The league's collective bargaining
Speaker 3: agreement says only women are eligible to play but does
Speaker 3: not define women or include language about gender identity or
Speaker 3: sex assigned at birth. Well, I think you're going to
Speaker 3: have to deal with a hypocrisy issue here, though, at
Speaker 3: some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's the point of the fellas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course it is.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, women who are applying to the league.
Speaker 3: WNBA has been asked to explain the eligibility criteria at use,
Speaker 3: but the league did not respond before publication. They're hoping
Speaker 3: they can get away with just saying that they're not eligible.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: And not have to answer questions. You've said anybody who
Speaker 3: declares himself a woman is a woman and they're declaring
Speaker 3: themselves a woman. Yeah, but they don't count.
Speaker 2: Why? They're not sincere. So you need to institute some
Speaker 2: sort of sincerity test. Oh, yeah. You cannot get leftists.
Speaker 2: And it's an example of what I was just talking
Speaker 2: about with the socialists. You cannot get leftists to confront
Speaker 2: their own cognitive dissonance. You can't make them. They will
Speaker 2: just repeat something. Well, we need inclusion and we shouldn't
Speaker 2: be targeting vulnerable populations. What does that have to do
Speaker 2: with how are you going to test somebody's sincerity?
Speaker 3: My favorite thing was the thing we had in the
Speaker 3: one more podcast yesterday was the quote from somebody in
Speaker 3: the trans world that we will not have achieved full
Speaker 3: equality or something until we get to the point that.
Speaker 3: a person has no expectations or disappointment upon finding out
Speaker 3: what the other person's genitals are. Like the first time
Speaker 3: you ever get intimate, you have no reaction, whether it's
Speaker 3: a vagina or a penis. You just, you had no expectations.
Speaker 3: You had never even thought about which one it might be.
Speaker 3: And you're perfectly okay with whichever one it turns out
Speaker 3: to be. That is hilarious.
Speaker 2: When we've achieved true trans acceptance. That's correct.
Speaker 3: That's a heck of a standard. I'm not sure we're
Speaker 3: ever going to get there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to get there.
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