WEBVTT - The Big Hit ft. Kyle Shanahan & the Niners | Mike Krukow on Devers raking 0:00:02.380 --> 0:00:04.809 Spanning the globe we're gonna get drunk before the game 0:00:04.870 --> 0:00:07.650 we're gonna get drunk during the game and then we 0:00:07.670 --> 0:00:14.390 get drunk after the game the thrill of victory the 0:00:14.580 --> 0:00:16.120 agony of defeat. 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:18.620 I'll be in ireland like looking around going damn i lost. 0:00:18.420 --> 0:00:24.200 This is the wide world of walt hey great opening. 0:00:23.140 --> 0:00:27.950 The only problem is walt ain't here And the only 0:00:27.970 --> 0:00:32.250 problem is, is that we have no open for Jake 0:00:32.290 --> 0:00:33.930 Vigilante's Vigilant Views. 0:00:34.330 --> 0:00:34.589 No. 0:00:34.770 --> 0:00:36.949 Which 559 has already checked in and said, forget Triple E, 0:00:36.970 --> 0:00:37.870 we got Triple V. 0:00:37.909 --> 0:00:38.330 Wow. 0:00:39.010 --> 0:00:41.690 So we are pausing our Dolly Parton rejoins to get 0:00:41.710 --> 0:00:42.390 a little pitbull. 0:00:42.530 --> 0:00:46.530 We are pausing our Dolly rejoins for a Triple E rejoin. 0:00:46.729 --> 0:00:49.810 This was his favorite song to snowboard to flying down 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:50.199 the mountain. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.860 Man, the things you learn in life. The things you 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:54.820 learn in life. That's a true story, Jacob. That's a 0:00:54.860 --> 0:00:56.870 true story. All right, so here's the deal. We do 0:00:56.890 --> 0:00:59.130 this every Wednesday at 7.15 to set the middle of 0:00:59.150 --> 0:01:04.030 the week sort of like flagpole, but... Young Tony left 0:01:04.050 --> 0:01:07.690 for TV. And Walt's taking care of his baby. We 0:01:07.730 --> 0:01:11.289 got our third stringer. But you know what? Really our 0:01:11.330 --> 0:01:11.869 first stringer. 0:01:11.990 --> 0:01:12.270 Yes. 0:01:12.770 --> 0:01:17.690 He's the Adrian Martinez of KNBR. My man, Jacob. The 0:01:17.730 --> 0:01:21.610 Vigilante Violante San Jose Zone. Good morning. What up, Jacob? 0:01:21.630 --> 0:01:23.030 Vigilante's Vigilant Views. 0:01:23.069 --> 0:01:23.580 How you doing, buddy? 0:01:23.940 --> 0:01:27.020 Like Adrian Martinez. I'm still on the roster, bud. 0:01:27.100 --> 0:01:27.340 All right. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:28.900 Let's go. Let's go, buddy. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:29.180 I'm ready. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:29.479 I'm ready. 0:01:29.500 --> 0:01:29.740 I'm ready. 0:01:30.310 --> 0:01:34.869 Still shook up about the fireball. Triple East fireball. All right, 0:01:34.930 --> 0:01:39.639 number one, guys. We got Boucher's Raiders in town. Niners 0:01:39.750 --> 0:01:43.699 Raiders is back. This is a question for Murph, Marcus, whoever, 0:01:43.819 --> 0:01:44.720 or mainly for Murph. 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.240 Usually goes old guy first, prettier guy second. 0:01:47.300 --> 0:01:47.500 That's me. 0:01:47.500 --> 0:01:48.800 I'm the pretty guy. And then we alternate. 0:01:48.820 --> 0:01:50.200 You're the old guy, Murph. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:54.060 Aside from Jerry Rice, obviously he turned Niner to Raider. 0:01:54.340 --> 0:01:58.220 Which former 49er legend would hurt? you the most to 0:01:58.240 --> 0:01:59.980 see wearing the silver and black? 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:00.340 Wow. 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.840 Well, it's already happened. I mean, the answer is like 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.740 the answer is Ronnie Lott. Ronnie Lott wore silver and black, dude. 0:02:06.820 --> 0:02:09.579 So for me, and then throw in the recently inducted 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.520 pro football hall of famer, Roger Craig, Roger Craig wore 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.240 a silver back. Freaking Tom Rathman. We're silver and black. 0:02:16.260 --> 0:02:18.660 So this has been a, this has just been a, 0:02:18.889 --> 0:02:21.230 you know, Al, I'm going to hurt you. I'm going 0:02:21.250 --> 0:02:23.250 to take your most beloved and I'm going to put 0:02:23.270 --> 0:02:25.390 them in my, in my silver and black. I mean, 0:02:25.410 --> 0:02:28.020 just Al, just flat out, just coming right down our 0:02:28.100 --> 0:02:30.940 road here. So the answer is, is already here. But 0:02:30.980 --> 0:02:33.280 if I want to play along and say a future one, 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.859 like if it ever happened again, I'm just going to 0:02:36.100 --> 0:02:37.720 play along with the game and say, I would say 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.460 that if Bryant Young ever wore silver and black, I 0:02:41.500 --> 0:02:43.600 think I might have to get on the motorcycle and 0:02:43.620 --> 0:02:46.370 head up the coast. You know what I mean? So 0:02:46.410 --> 0:02:49.410 that's my answer, Jacob. Now, it would be interesting for 0:02:49.490 --> 0:02:52.570 him to answer this question because he doesn't have beloved 49ers. Oh, well, 0:02:52.710 --> 0:02:54.450 I believe that. Are you going to flip the script 0:02:54.530 --> 0:02:54.790 on him? 0:02:54.950 --> 0:02:56.549 Dude, we're going to reverse this thing. 0:02:57.030 --> 0:02:57.510 Marcus. 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.680 Former Raider turn in Niner Empire. Who would you hate 0:03:02.700 --> 0:03:04.690 to see it? You know, this is a good question 0:03:04.710 --> 0:03:07.570 because Murph's right. There's been so much crossover between the 0:03:07.669 --> 0:03:10.889 red and gold and the silver and black throughout the years. 0:03:11.250 --> 0:03:14.290 And with my role now currently as somebody who covers 0:03:14.310 --> 0:03:17.980 the 49ers, host a sports talk radio show on the flagship. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.600 Everybody always pokes the needle with me now about Max 0:03:21.660 --> 0:03:25.670 Crosby potentially being traded to the 49ers. And despite what 0:03:25.710 --> 0:03:28.090 you might think, I wouldn't hate it because at least 0:03:28.150 --> 0:03:30.590 I'd be able to cover Max Crosby every single day. 0:03:30.950 --> 0:03:32.930 And maybe we'd bring him on as the 49er player 0:03:32.950 --> 0:03:33.370 of the week. 0:03:33.660 --> 0:03:35.820 So I might go back before. 0:03:35.420 --> 0:03:37.760 I started working at KMBR and It would have hurt 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.540 me to see Khalil mag traded to the 49ers. I 0:03:40.580 --> 0:03:42.590 know that the 49ers were rumored to be involved in 0:03:42.610 --> 0:03:44.890 those trade discussions, but obviously the Raiders shipped them out 0:03:44.930 --> 0:03:47.310 to the Chicago bears. But I think my final answer 0:03:47.350 --> 0:03:50.100 that I'm locking in on arguably my favorite Raider of 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:53.840 all time, number 24, Charles Williams. If I had to 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.980 see Seawood play for the 49ers as a kid growing up, 0:03:57.260 --> 0:03:59.180 that would have broke my heart. He already left us 0:03:59.300 --> 0:04:01.180 once to go to the Green Bay Packers. Shout out 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.340 your boy Aaron Rodgers for getting him a Super Bowl ring. 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.190 But then he came back to the silver and black 0:04:05.430 --> 0:04:07.910 Charles Woods in my all time favorite. That would hurt 0:04:07.950 --> 0:04:08.810 me a little bit as a kid. 0:04:08.850 --> 0:04:10.890 There it is, man. You really ripped over some wounds there, buddy. 0:04:11.550 --> 0:04:13.910 But don't forget Jim Plunkett also was a crossover and 0:04:13.950 --> 0:04:16.190 somebody's running in Jerry Rice. Well, he laid that out 0:04:16.210 --> 0:04:18.110 in the opening part of the question that Jerry Rice 0:04:18.150 --> 0:04:18.669 is the ultimate. 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:19.740 Yes, Jacob. 0:04:19.779 --> 0:04:21.520 Also, being a Niner, so now I give you guys 0:04:21.540 --> 0:04:22.060 a point, right? 0:04:22.140 --> 0:04:22.589 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:04:22.610 --> 0:04:23.090 Who gets the point? 0:04:23.110 --> 0:04:23.370 Who wins? 0:04:23.390 --> 0:04:24.289 Who was more persuasive? 0:04:24.610 --> 0:04:25.190 Compelling? 0:04:25.290 --> 0:04:26.049 Yes, compelling. 0:04:26.290 --> 0:04:28.510 Okay, I like Boucher's argument, but I'm going to give 0:04:28.570 --> 0:04:31.120 Murph the point here just because I would have rather 0:04:31.210 --> 0:04:35.219 seen my guy Chuck Woodson in Niner red and gold 0:04:35.260 --> 0:04:36.580 than the damn Packers. 0:04:36.820 --> 0:04:38.640 Yeah. Didn't need that in my life. Okay, I'm just 0:04:38.660 --> 0:04:39.580 taking the point. And he won a Super Bowl. 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.280 I'm just taking the point. Plus, that would be tough 0:04:41.300 --> 0:04:43.900 for you to see B.Y. not only play for USC, 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:45.950 but also for the Raiders. Two jerseys you don't want 0:04:45.970 --> 0:04:46.250 to see. 0:04:46.290 --> 0:04:48.830 He was in Notre Dame. Oh, my apologies. My apologies. 0:04:48.850 --> 0:04:51.289 That's Notre Dame. Ronnie Lott is the Trojan who breaks 0:04:51.470 --> 0:04:54.250 the rules. That's on me. I owe push-ups to B.Y. 0:04:54.290 --> 0:04:54.730 Yeah, B.Y. 0:04:54.750 --> 0:04:56.250 Is not going to appreciate that at all. 0:04:56.270 --> 0:04:56.710 That's right. 0:04:56.830 --> 0:04:58.330 That goes back to the story of the one time. 0:04:58.390 --> 0:05:00.530 I think I told you real quick digression. Me and 0:05:00.550 --> 0:05:03.099 my dad saw BY at a Verizon wireless. And my 0:05:03.130 --> 0:05:04.880 dad told me to go up and talk S to 0:05:04.900 --> 0:05:07.080 BY about Notre Dame versus USC. 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.099 Whoa. Your dad's not an SC fan, is he? 0:05:09.140 --> 0:05:11.560 No, he just wanted to poke the bear a little bit. 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:12.960 I think my dad just wanted to get me in trouble. 0:05:13.060 --> 0:05:15.240 Okay. I think that's why I got the story confused. 0:05:15.260 --> 0:05:15.640 Again, my apologies. 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.120 Ken Boucher is sending his son into the snake pit. 0:05:18.140 --> 0:05:20.000 Looking for that smoke. All right, Jacob, what do we got? 0:05:20.020 --> 0:05:20.370 What do we got? 0:05:20.380 --> 0:05:23.730 All right, we're going to stick on the Niners Raiders 0:05:23.770 --> 0:05:26.390 a little bit. Dude, the Bay Area used to have 0:05:26.410 --> 0:05:31.130 awesome rivalries. We had Niners Raiders. We had Giants A's, 0:05:31.830 --> 0:05:34.420 which both are kind of sort of gone. Which one 0:05:34.460 --> 0:05:37.279 would you rather see come back? Bay Area rivalry. 0:05:37.339 --> 0:05:40.640 Well, I would rather the Raiders still be in Oakland 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:43.320 than the A's still be in Oakland. But as far 0:05:43.380 --> 0:05:46.110 as rivalry goes, I'll have to admit, I think the 0:05:46.370 --> 0:05:49.150 A's Giants rivalry is bigger on the field because of 0:05:49.170 --> 0:05:52.150 the 89 World Series. Obviously, we've never seen the 49ers 0:05:52.190 --> 0:05:54.190 and the Raiders square off in the Super Bowl. Maybe 0:05:54.230 --> 0:05:56.790 a little bit more passion off the field between Raiders 0:05:56.830 --> 0:05:59.350 and 49er fans. But I think the better rivalry would 0:05:59.390 --> 0:06:02.050 still be the Bay Bridge series between the A's and 0:06:02.070 --> 0:06:04.630 the Giants. So I would bring back the baseball rivalry, 0:06:04.850 --> 0:06:07.360 despite the fact that me personally, I want the Raiders 0:06:07.390 --> 0:06:08.000 back in Oakland. 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.580 It's a good question. As always, Jacob's hot right now. 0:06:11.420 --> 0:06:13.920 And I get it. When the Giants play the A's, 0:06:14.100 --> 0:06:16.200 I do feel a certain kind of way I get. 0:06:16.740 --> 0:06:18.400 And I lived in Oakland for seven years and it 0:06:18.500 --> 0:06:21.390 was traumatic. It was traumatic because, dude, let me tell 0:06:21.410 --> 0:06:23.730 you what, they don't like you over there. They don't 0:06:23.750 --> 0:06:26.410 like you. They can say they like you, but they 0:06:26.430 --> 0:06:29.830 don't like you. And so it's real. Oakland A's fans 0:06:29.850 --> 0:06:31.800 do not like the Giants and they don't like Giants fans. 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.360 That said, I have to say that even from a 0:06:35.460 --> 0:06:38.150 young age, when the 49ers would play the Raiders, even 0:06:38.190 --> 0:06:42.430 in preseason, There was something about those colors on the 0:06:42.470 --> 0:06:45.690 same field that was so freaking epic to me. It 0:06:45.710 --> 0:06:48.570 was like, it was grander than the baseball to me. 0:06:48.589 --> 0:06:50.230 It was like, well, first of all, the NFL is 0:06:50.330 --> 0:06:53.270 bigger than major league baseball. Number two, Al Davis was, 0:06:53.310 --> 0:06:54.940 you know, I go back to the Al days and 0:06:54.980 --> 0:06:57.800 everything when the Raiders were really good and the Niners weren't. 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.140 And it was, it sucked because the Raiders were, no, 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:01.539 they didn't play in the same division. They didn't play 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:03.140 in the same conference. They didn't even play each other 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:04.980 every year in regular season. It was very rare. It 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.099 was like every season. Several years. But I would say 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.700 that the Niner helmet and the Raider helmet on the 0:07:10.740 --> 0:07:15.050 field is, to me, grander than the Giants and the A's. 0:07:15.070 --> 0:07:16.210 So I'm going with the football. 0:07:17.330 --> 0:07:19.670 All right. Well, I'm going to give Boucher this one 0:07:20.050 --> 0:07:20.450 for sure. 0:07:20.510 --> 0:07:23.580 Just because, dude, I grew up going to A's games, man. 0:07:23.660 --> 0:07:27.440 And so, like, being in the Coliseum for... A's were 0:07:27.820 --> 0:07:31.940 back in the early 2000s when they had, you know, Mulder, Hudson, Zitos. 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:32.560 Awesome. 0:07:33.180 --> 0:07:35.320 And I've also been in the in the black hole 0:07:35.940 --> 0:07:39.000 one time, baby. And it was it was against Peyton 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.280 Manning and the Broncos. And, dude, I just I think 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.740 I'm right there with you, dude. The Bay Bridge series 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.120 was so awesome back in the day. I want that 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:48.560 one back. I'm giving it to Bush. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:48.780 Yeah. 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:50.940 And it's the fact that we got the Bay Bridge 0:07:50.980 --> 0:07:53.440 series every year where 49ers and Raiders, you get them 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.820 once every election cycle. And it even got to the 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.540 point where the preseason games got too rowdy, where they 0:07:58.580 --> 0:08:00.000 stopped playing each other in preseason. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.310 I'm going to look up. They did not. Now, now 0:08:02.330 --> 0:08:04.910 there's a formula in the NFL schedules where you wind 0:08:04.970 --> 0:08:07.770 up playing every division every fourth year. I'm going to 0:08:07.810 --> 0:08:08.990 go ahead and say when I was growing up, it 0:08:09.130 --> 0:08:11.010 wasn't that way. I'm going to go say it was 0:08:11.070 --> 0:08:13.610 very rare. I'm going to try to find the 49ers Raiders. 0:08:14.270 --> 0:08:16.080 regular season history. But wait a minute. I want to 0:08:16.100 --> 0:08:17.900 get back to you going to these A's games. Why 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:21.550 were you going to the Coliseum more than, uh, more than, uh, uh, 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:22.980 Akbel Park? It was cheaper. 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:26.160 You used to get like the, the family group pack, dude. We, 0:08:26.220 --> 0:08:28.860 we would be like chilling right by the A's bullpen. 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.730 The boys would be goofing around on the field, coming 0:08:31.750 --> 0:08:32.679 over to sign autographs. 0:08:32.710 --> 0:08:33.450 It was awesome. 0:08:33.710 --> 0:08:34.170 I loved it. 0:08:34.270 --> 0:08:34.510 Okay. 0:08:34.530 --> 0:08:36.870 So I'm getting pangs for the Coliseum now. So, so 0:08:36.890 --> 0:08:38.750 they only played in, okay. So they did play every 0:08:38.770 --> 0:08:45.300 four years, 70, 74, 79, 82, 85, 88, 91, 92, 94. 0:08:45.300 --> 0:08:48.540 It was rare. That's what made it even grander. Anyway, 0:08:48.820 --> 0:08:51.300 he got the point. I take the L. 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:52.020 1-1. 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:52.089 1-1. 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.569 We're coming down the stretch here. This is a little 0:08:54.670 --> 0:08:57.650 off the grid one. This is a. 0:08:57.950 --> 0:08:58.329 I like it. 0:08:58.330 --> 0:09:02.470 We got a sound element? No, there's not a sound element. Alright, 0:09:02.510 --> 0:09:04.370 we got college football. We know you guys are both 0:09:04.410 --> 0:09:08.180 big college football guys. San Jose State especially. We love 0:09:08.220 --> 0:09:08.860 our Spartans. 0:09:09.100 --> 0:09:10.140 Coach Ken tomorrow, baby. 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:14.880 I practiced it. Go Navy, by the way. 0:09:14.900 --> 0:09:16.720 Yes, buddy. Thank you, buddy. 0:09:16.900 --> 0:09:19.559 For Larry V and for which Murphy is it? 0:09:19.900 --> 0:09:20.220 Declan. 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:21.470 Declan. Declan Murphy. 0:09:21.950 --> 0:09:22.390 Let's go. 0:09:22.470 --> 0:09:25.770 Navy water polo scrimmage at Princeton Saturday. 0:09:25.830 --> 0:09:26.050 Yes. 0:09:26.330 --> 0:09:28.130 You got to take care of that Princeton offense. 0:09:28.390 --> 0:09:33.350 They're going to be backdoor cutting in the pool all day. 0:09:33.370 --> 0:09:33.770 What do you got? 0:09:34.410 --> 0:09:34.610 All right. 0:09:34.690 --> 0:09:39.900 This is the classic, like, you know, you, uh, you 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.120 break up with your girlfriend and you're done with the relationship. 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.260 And then you see her looking. 0:09:45.059 --> 0:09:47.420 Good or whatever, or you're not doing too hot and 0:09:47.460 --> 0:09:49.319 you want to go back into that relationship. 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:50.940 This is college football related. 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:53.660 With it kicking off this weekend, we got some dudes 0:09:53.710 --> 0:09:56.189 who get to go to the NFL now, try out, 0:09:56.610 --> 0:09:58.849 and then they can maybe go back to school if 0:09:58.910 --> 0:09:59.730 it doesn't work out. 0:09:59.750 --> 0:09:59.950 Gross. 0:10:00.140 --> 0:10:03.540 Are you pro or against this crawl back to college? 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.440 I mean, this is one that you, we were squeezing 0:10:05.460 --> 0:10:07.260 this into the last 60 seconds here, bro. You could 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.370 do 60 days on this one, man. It is crazy, 0:10:10.410 --> 0:10:13.830 but man, I'd like to say that the old part 0:10:13.850 --> 0:10:16.429 of me from the old days of Keith Jackson on 0:10:16.450 --> 0:10:18.910 the Rose Bowl would say, you can't do that. But, bro, 0:10:19.450 --> 0:10:22.410 the barrier has been broken. They're all getting paid now. 0:10:23.170 --> 0:10:26.050 It calls into question a very fundamental question. What is 0:10:26.110 --> 0:10:29.620 college football? Is it pro football? Is it minor leagues 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.459 for pros now? I'd like to say, no, you can't 0:10:32.500 --> 0:10:34.160 go back. And I know the SEC and Big Ten 0:10:34.179 --> 0:10:37.000 voted that, but. I just being a hypocrite because I've 0:10:37.020 --> 0:10:39.020 always thought the college players should get paid because the 0:10:39.059 --> 0:10:41.230 university presidents are stealing all the money as were the coaches. 0:10:41.850 --> 0:10:44.470 So I'm going to have to say that, yeah, given 0:10:44.510 --> 0:10:48.350 a five year eligibility, maximum, maximum, that's my big thing. 0:10:48.370 --> 0:10:50.580 You can only have five years of eligibility. Heck, I 0:10:50.620 --> 0:10:52.699 only have four, but I'll give you five. But if 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.420 you're within your five years eligibility, I got to say grudgingly, 0:10:56.460 --> 0:10:56.900 you can do it. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:57.660 Wow. 0:10:57.860 --> 0:10:59.220 I'm shocked by that answer. 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.700 Now I agree with you that NIL and the money 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.120 in college football has completely changed the landscape. 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:05.100 We just heard George. 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:06.740 Kittle tell a story the other day about how there 0:11:06.780 --> 0:11:08.840 are some rookies on this team that made more money 0:11:08.900 --> 0:11:11.620 with their NIL deal than they will be their rookie 0:11:11.660 --> 0:11:13.040 season in the NFL. 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:13.880 So that's great. 0:11:14.020 --> 0:11:14.680 Get your money. 0:11:14.990 --> 0:11:17.390 But if you declare for the draft, if you decide 0:11:17.429 --> 0:11:19.809 to walk away from that money, you can't go back 0:11:20.070 --> 0:11:22.890 you've made your decision you've made your choice maybe you 0:11:22.910 --> 0:11:25.209 should have got some better advice from your agent or 0:11:25.250 --> 0:11:27.310 your friends and family surrounding you that you should have 0:11:27.330 --> 0:11:29.750 stayed in college and got that nl money to begin 0:11:29.790 --> 0:11:31.850 with but to me once you declare for the draft 0:11:32.110 --> 0:11:34.390 once you put on an nfl uniform you should not 0:11:34.429 --> 0:11:36.490 be going back to college football uh we gotta get. 0:11:36.429 --> 0:11:37.590 The crew who gets the point. 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.599 Dude i'm i'm with boucher on this one he gets 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.000 the point It's the same thing in high school. 0:11:44.140 --> 0:11:46.329 When you leave high school, you can't come back there. 0:11:46.470 --> 0:11:48.410 Tell that to Wooderson. Come on, buddy. 0:11:49.510 --> 0:11:49.910 Good call. 0:11:50.070 --> 0:11:50.430 All right. 0:11:50.530 --> 0:11:51.490 All right, all right, all right. 0:11:51.510 --> 0:11:51.790 You know what? 0:11:51.809 --> 0:11:53.270 Jacob did a good job. Yeah, nicely done, Jacob. 0:11:53.290 --> 0:11:53.949 We're just up against you. 0:11:53.970 --> 0:11:56.890 We've got to get going for Krug. Nice job, Vigilante's 0:11:56.950 --> 0:11:59.080 vigilant views. Yeah, I think I like you better than Walter. 0:11:59.580 --> 0:12:00.840 Walter never gives me wins. 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:01.200 Yeah, it's true. 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.880 It's true. Yeah, Walter always gives it the murph. Mike 0:12:03.940 --> 0:12:05.580 Krug next on Esports Leader. 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:12.640 Listen to the Sports Leader anytime, anywhere. Download KNBR, the 0:12:13.090 --> 0:12:16.550 Sports Leader app. Murph and Marcus continue live from the 0:12:16.590 --> 0:12:22.690 Casino Matrix Progressive Jackpot Studios. 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Now, you're a music guy 0:13:00.700 --> 0:13:02.880 all the way. We know when the crew goes get together, man, 0:13:02.900 --> 0:13:05.000 the instruments come out and the sing-alongs get going. And 0:13:05.700 --> 0:13:08.300 I could only imagine Dolly coming to your house for 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.600 a sing-along is the collaboration I needed, Mike, because you 0:13:11.620 --> 0:13:13.800 guys have the same kind of energy and positivity. And 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.670 just your thoughts on, you know, your kind of career 0:13:17.910 --> 0:13:21.130 was when she was a superstar, too. So good morning. 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:22.980 Good morning, Mike. 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:24.700 Yeah, good morning. A sad day. I mean, she was 0:13:24.740 --> 0:13:28.860 a gift in so many ways. You know, in my life, 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:30.950 you know, you kind of get pigeonholed into a style 0:13:30.970 --> 0:13:33.120 of music and whatnot, and you kind of bypass it. 0:13:33.150 --> 0:13:36.050 And then later on in my life, I would, you know, 0:13:36.090 --> 0:13:39.510 I would find these singers that were amazing. I remember 0:13:39.570 --> 0:13:42.349 one time I was in a record store in San 0:13:42.390 --> 0:13:44.710 Luis Obispo, just, you know, just, you know, killing time, 0:13:44.730 --> 0:13:50.030 looking at albums. I hear this woman singing. in the 0:13:50.050 --> 0:13:54.000 music store. And I'm listening, I'm going, damn, that gal's amazing. 0:13:54.010 --> 0:13:57.260 And I went over to the guy at the, behind 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.140 the desk. I said, who's that singing? He goes, well, 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:05.080 that's Ella Fitzgerald. No. Well, I get it. Like one song, 0:14:05.140 --> 0:14:07.510 I could get all the fuss. And I, you know, I, 0:14:07.540 --> 0:14:09.559 I didn't know anything about this gal. Right. And then 0:14:09.580 --> 0:14:11.880 I dove into her and whatnot. I did the same 0:14:11.900 --> 0:14:15.679 thing with Frank Sinatra. I discovered him late and it 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.800 was that way with Dolly Parton. I mean, the first 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.720 time I heard her, was, I mean, I couldn't believe 0:14:20.740 --> 0:14:25.780 her voice. As pure as pure can be. And the 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:29.380 other thing about her, I mean, Dolly Parton, I would 0:14:29.420 --> 0:14:31.590 hear a song and I'd say, that's a great song. 0:14:31.610 --> 0:14:34.870 Did she write that song? No. Dolly Parton wrote that song. 0:14:35.230 --> 0:14:37.130 I'll bet that happened a dozen times in my life. 0:14:37.950 --> 0:14:41.690 And so she was just a star and wasn't an 0:14:41.770 --> 0:14:45.890 accomplished musician, but the voice was just, it was so 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.200 pure and so good. And she had so much fun. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:53.920 And when you watched her perform, she brought joy. And 0:14:53.950 --> 0:14:55.890 she was just happy. She was doing what she was 0:14:55.950 --> 0:14:59.130 put on the surface. And she knew it. And everything 0:14:59.190 --> 0:15:03.290 about what she did was fun. Even Dollywood. I mean, 0:15:03.310 --> 0:15:08.960 everybody raised their eyebrows. My son went to Dollywood when 0:15:08.980 --> 0:15:13.400 he was touring in Tennessee. And he said, Dad, it 0:15:13.420 --> 0:15:16.710 was unbelievable. It was so much fun. And I think 0:15:16.730 --> 0:15:19.610 that's the way she was, and she just brought happiness 0:15:19.650 --> 0:15:21.530 to a lot of people, certainly to our family. 0:15:21.610 --> 0:15:23.390 I'm going to kind of go off the grid here. 0:15:23.410 --> 0:15:25.210 I know we'll get to the Giants in just a second, 0:15:25.230 --> 0:15:27.690 but all the tributes that came out yesterday were so amazing. 0:15:27.750 --> 0:15:29.830 This is one from the late Roger Ebert. Did you 0:15:29.890 --> 0:15:34.210 see this? Do you remember the movie reviewer Roger Ebert? Oh, yeah. 0:15:34.290 --> 0:15:36.530 He and Siskel and Ebert. He wrote this. This is incredible. 0:15:36.550 --> 0:15:38.190 He goes, in Dallas for the premiere of 9 to 5, 0:15:38.170 --> 0:15:41.570 the movie 9 to 5. I had an uncanny experience, 0:15:41.610 --> 0:15:43.470 and on the plane home to Chicago, I confessed it 0:15:43.510 --> 0:15:46.030 to Siskel. I had been granted a private half hour 0:15:46.070 --> 0:15:48.110 with Dolly Parton, and as we spoke, I was filled 0:15:48.150 --> 0:15:52.730 with a strange, ethereal grace. This was not spiritual, nor 0:15:52.770 --> 0:15:56.530 was it sexual. It was healing and comforting. Jean listened 0:15:56.550 --> 0:15:59.030 and said, Roger, I felt the exact same thing during 0:15:59.090 --> 0:16:02.030 my interview with her. We looked at each other. What 0:16:02.070 --> 0:16:04.070 did this mean? Neither one of us ever felt that 0:16:04.130 --> 0:16:06.790 feeling again. From time to time, we would refer to 0:16:06.850 --> 0:16:11.000 it in wonder. She was almost like this Angel, Mike. 0:16:12.980 --> 0:16:15.240 I think that's a great way to describe her. And, 0:16:16.140 --> 0:16:20.240 you know, when you have– when you're around a person 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.020 like that, when you feel a person before you actually 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.300 see them in the room, you know, you can't help 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:31.430 but stare. And it's a point– I mean, staring is rude. 0:16:32.310 --> 0:16:33.990 But it isn't when you're around a person like that 0:16:34.010 --> 0:16:37.310 because you can't take your eyes off them. And she 0:16:37.330 --> 0:16:40.290 was that way. I mean, she was magical, man. 0:16:41.050 --> 0:16:42.830 So anyway, I knew you would be. And it's a 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.280 big story around the world. So anyway, we thank her 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.220 for all the gifts. It's sad to be in a 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.860 world without her. But on to the baseball. 0:16:51.590 --> 0:16:52.110 Mike, they won. 0:16:52.750 --> 0:16:54.690 And I know we got to talk about Adrian Hauser. 0:16:54.710 --> 0:16:57.230 That was really, really tough. But how do you sort 0:16:57.250 --> 0:17:00.280 of explain that? These lineups the last two days, Turner 0:17:00.300 --> 0:17:03.970 Hill at cleanup, Shea Whitcomb at third, Anthony Molina on 0:17:03.990 --> 0:17:05.909 the mound. Guys, Giants fans, you have to be a 0:17:06.030 --> 0:17:08.230 super hard-o to even know who these guys are. How 0:17:08.250 --> 0:17:09.570 do you explain them winning two in a row? 0:17:10.830 --> 0:17:15.540 Defense. The defense the last two days have been spectacular. 0:17:16.260 --> 0:17:20.860 I've always believed that the sure sign of a baseball 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.460 player is their first step on defense and their first 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.949 step on the base pass. And that was really in 0:17:27.130 --> 0:17:30.169 full splendor the last two nights, especially in the outfield. 0:17:30.190 --> 0:17:33.350 I mean, you had, you know, you had Turner Hill 0:17:33.369 --> 0:17:39.900 and you had Drew Gilbert and you had Grant McRae 0:17:40.340 --> 0:17:42.300 and they were amazing. Those are the three center fielders 0:17:42.340 --> 0:17:44.939 right there. I mean, but if you watched, you know, 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:46.619 their first step to the ball, I mean, it was 0:17:46.660 --> 0:17:50.200 almost like when a ball was hit, they all moved. 0:17:50.660 --> 0:17:52.320 That first step was going at the same time as 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.880 the ball. But it was hitting center field. I mean, 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.460 even the corner outfielders were, you know, that first step 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.600 was going to the ball. And it was just so 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:05.380 choreographed and beautiful. I mean, to me, that's what makes 0:18:05.460 --> 0:18:08.420 a game. I would prefer to have a team behind 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:10.700 me more so than an offense every time when I 0:18:10.700 --> 0:18:16.010 was pitching. Because they make plays and they take away 0:18:16.030 --> 0:18:20.350 90-foot mistakes. And that's what the Giants all year long 0:18:20.390 --> 0:18:24.210 have done consistently is they give 90-foot mistakes. The last 0:18:24.230 --> 0:18:28.430 two nights have been the other way. Those are really, 0:18:28.470 --> 0:18:31.929 really fun games for me. We're learning Turner Hill's game 0:18:32.090 --> 0:18:36.020 right now. He's a guy that does a lot of 0:18:36.060 --> 0:18:40.080 little things. It reminds me of Mike Yastrzemski. When Yastrzemski 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:43.080 first came up, it was fun to watch how fundamentally 0:18:43.260 --> 0:18:47.639 sound he was. Everything was perfect. He didn't have a 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:49.959 great arm, but he had a great system. He had 0:18:50.060 --> 0:18:53.840 tremendous accuracy. He had a really quick Well, it's the 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:55.609 same thing with Hill. I mean, he goes out and 0:18:56.410 --> 0:18:59.369 you watch his footwork. When he's playing left field, he's 0:18:59.390 --> 0:19:02.510 a left-handed outfielder. So when he goes over to the 0:19:02.590 --> 0:19:05.230 foul line, he catches the ball and he threes it 0:19:05.430 --> 0:19:08.480 before he gets the ball to throw to second base. 0:19:08.900 --> 0:19:12.080 And his footwork is so compact. You know, guys have footwork, 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.140 but their strides are longer, and it takes them longer 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.080 to get rid of the ball, not him. And that 0:19:16.140 --> 0:19:18.900 is something that, you know, he– I don't know. You're 0:19:18.940 --> 0:19:21.159 not born with that. That's something you have to figure out, 0:19:21.170 --> 0:19:22.449 and you have to be taught, and then you have 0:19:22.470 --> 0:19:24.960 to perfect. And he's got a bunch of things like 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.620 that to his game. So if you looked at what 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.139 we saw, you know, Koss was saying, you know, he's 0:19:30.420 --> 0:19:35.680 a really good shortstop. And, you know, we're really impressed 0:19:35.740 --> 0:19:39.750 with Shea Whitcomb. I mean, this is our first chance 0:19:39.770 --> 0:19:42.490 to see him. Here's a guy that plays three infield positions, 0:19:42.570 --> 0:19:45.050 the ground pick by Houston. And now I see what 0:19:45.070 --> 0:19:46.609 all the fuss is about. You know, he has a 0:19:46.670 --> 0:19:49.030 nice glove and a good arm. And, I mean, you 0:19:49.050 --> 0:19:51.630 could say the same thing about Furman. So you've got 0:19:51.670 --> 0:19:53.770 a lot of these young players that have gotten to 0:19:53.810 --> 0:19:57.710 the big league level, and there is a more complete– 0:19:58.190 --> 0:20:00.990 there's more of a complete sense of them as a player. 0:20:01.060 --> 0:20:03.820 They're not just offensive. They're not just defensive. You know, 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.540 they have some game. And the defense the last two nights, 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:08.760 you know, that really stood out to me. 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.970 Mike, it was an interesting start for this Giants lineup 0:20:12.010 --> 0:20:15.369 yesterday with Brady Singer's decision to throw behind Drew Gilbert 0:20:15.490 --> 0:20:17.410 on his first pitch of the game, then comes back, 0:20:17.450 --> 0:20:19.790 bounces one off his Evo shield off his ankle on 0:20:19.830 --> 0:20:21.830 the second pitch of the game. Now, we all know 0:20:21.869 --> 0:20:24.730 that there was a dust-up in Cincinnati earlier this season. 0:20:25.030 --> 0:20:27.040 Were you surprised to see some of that bad blood 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:29.119 still spill over this late in the season? And do 0:20:29.140 --> 0:20:31.179 you think some of that bad blood will continue in 0:20:31.220 --> 0:20:32.040 today's getaway game? 0:20:34.260 --> 0:20:37.980 That was really odd because what happened in Cincinnati was 0:20:38.020 --> 0:20:40.670 a big nothing. There was a couple of guys wolfing. 0:20:41.470 --> 0:20:46.690 And nobody was involved. I mean, I have no idea 0:20:46.710 --> 0:20:49.760 what that guy was thinking about. I really don't. And, 0:20:50.140 --> 0:20:51.900 you know, I mean, he wasn't involved in the game. 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:57.480 I mean, Drew Gilbert wasn't doing anything disrespectful in Cincinnati. 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:00.179 So I guess just for him to single out in 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:03.670 game two, I mean, I don't understand it. And, you know, 0:21:04.070 --> 0:21:06.950 and plus, singers from Florida, those guys are usually pretty mellow. 0:21:07.550 --> 0:21:09.630 If you have somebody who's going to chirp like that 0:21:09.670 --> 0:21:13.129 and throw it, they're usually from North Carolina. But I 0:21:13.170 --> 0:21:14.850 don't know. I didn't understand it. Plus, he threw at 0:21:14.869 --> 0:21:18.170 him twice. And then when he hit him, I'm surprised 0:21:18.190 --> 0:21:20.510 that he didn't get tossed. He could have. I mean, 0:21:20.550 --> 0:21:23.110 in today's game, I mean, they have a zero tolerance 0:21:23.150 --> 0:21:25.770 for throwing at guys. Well, it was freaking obvious he 0:21:25.790 --> 0:21:30.270 was throwing at them. But, yeah, I thought that was weird. 0:21:31.210 --> 0:21:34.320 It was weird. And Terry Francona manages the Reds. He's 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:36.760 old school. Yeah, that's kind of part of Tito's game. 0:21:38.980 --> 0:21:41.840 Well, yeah, he is old school, but that to me 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.860 still was bizarre. You know, I mean, if you throw 0:21:44.900 --> 0:21:46.800 behind him by three feet, if you're going to hit 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.010 a guy, you're going to throw behind him because the 0:21:49.050 --> 0:21:51.050 guy is naturally going to fall back away from the 0:21:51.090 --> 0:21:53.610 pitch because he thinks it's going to be in, and 0:21:53.630 --> 0:21:56.649 he'll fall into it. And he missed behind him, and 0:21:56.670 --> 0:21:57.850 then he goes back down and he hits him in 0:21:57.869 --> 0:21:59.869 the legs. So, I mean, at least he hit him 0:21:59.890 --> 0:22:06.240 below the belt. But still, I mean, it picked off 0:22:06.460 --> 0:22:09.260 a bunch of guys over in the Giants' dugout And 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:11.639 I thought the biggest hit of the game when Singer 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:14.510 put on a hit batsman, a walk, then another hit batsman, 0:22:15.990 --> 0:22:19.790 which I didn't think was intentional, it got to Drew Cavanaugh, 0:22:19.890 --> 0:22:21.389 and he comes up and he gets a base hit 0:22:21.430 --> 0:22:24.159 that puts in two runs. If they don't get a 0:22:24.170 --> 0:22:27.439 hit there, the momentum goes right into the Reds' dugout. 0:22:27.900 --> 0:22:31.040 If he gives you three guys for free to set 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.199 the bases loaded and you have a no-out situation, you 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:37.810 don't score anybody there, That momentum goes right in the Reds' dugout. 0:22:37.830 --> 0:22:40.590 So for Kavanaugh to get that hit and cash in 0:22:40.650 --> 0:22:42.430 two times in that first inning and give the Giants 0:22:42.470 --> 0:22:44.290 another lead, I thought that was the biggest hit in 0:22:44.310 --> 0:22:44.530 the game. 0:22:44.570 --> 0:22:46.270 Yeah, for sure. 0:22:46.310 --> 0:22:46.949 It was great. 0:22:46.970 --> 0:22:48.850 In fact, just a little moment on Kavanaugh. Three knocks 0:22:48.910 --> 0:22:53.040 last night, and he's hitting. 253 on base of. 0:22:53.010 --> 0:22:53.080 352. 0:22:53.070 --> 0:22:56.869 There's no power. He has no bombs. And his OPS 0:22:56.950 --> 0:22:57.409 is only. 0:22:57.390 --> 0:22:57.450 616. 0:22:57.430 --> 0:23:01.050 But behind the dish and at the plate, I'm just 0:23:01.090 --> 0:23:02.620 kind of wondering, the other day we asked you about 0:23:02.650 --> 0:23:04.560 Pat Bailey. You said he's a great backup, and he is. 0:23:04.580 --> 0:23:06.679 He won two gold gloves and all that. I don't know. 0:23:07.260 --> 0:23:10.460 Is Drew Kavanaugh good enough to be the Giants' backup 0:23:10.500 --> 0:23:14.350 catcher in 2027? Well, I don't even know if he's 0:23:14.380 --> 0:23:14.920 a backup. 0:23:14.940 --> 0:23:17.750 I mean, I think if I'm looking at the situation now, 0:23:17.810 --> 0:23:21.310 it's a platoon. Kavanaugh would play against right-handed pitchers, and 0:23:21.750 --> 0:23:24.570 Zusak would play against lefties. I don't know how it's 0:23:24.590 --> 0:23:27.280 all going to unfold right now. We're still learning Kavanaugh's game, 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:28.649 but I'll tell you one thing we found out about him. 0:23:29.670 --> 0:23:33.250 When you have a situation where you have a starting 0:23:33.270 --> 0:23:36.250 pitcher of the opposing team throw twice at your leadoff error, 0:23:36.910 --> 0:23:39.620 and he hits two guys in the first inning, everybody 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:45.580 gets an attitude in the dugout. But your fighters, they 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:50.359 emerge because they get a real good focus going. And 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:54.190 you learned a lot about Kavanaugh when his guy got hit. 0:23:55.130 --> 0:23:58.219 He went right into fight mode. He was hoping there 0:23:58.260 --> 0:24:00.619 was an instant where something would break out and he 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.180 would go out there and do a rat-a-tat on a 0:24:02.220 --> 0:24:05.450 couple of guys. Well, he took it out on Singer 0:24:05.490 --> 0:24:07.990 and the other way. He did it with his bat. 0:24:08.730 --> 0:24:11.270 And I just think, you know, that situation when you 0:24:11.310 --> 0:24:14.290 have an opposing hitter, opposing pitcher hit one of your guys, 0:24:14.910 --> 0:24:18.170 everybody elevates and everybody gets ticked off. But you find 0:24:18.210 --> 0:24:20.550 out who your fighters are as to how they perform 0:24:20.570 --> 0:24:22.520 in that game. They may not get in a fight, 0:24:22.540 --> 0:24:24.420 but they're going to have a good day with the bats. 0:24:25.020 --> 0:24:27.740 And Kavanaugh, in my mind, his stock went up yesterday, 0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.340 just the night he had after two guys got drilled. 0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:32.660 He had three hits in a walk. He had his 0:24:32.700 --> 0:24:35.859 best night or best day or best game ever in 0:24:35.900 --> 0:24:38.659 his young big league career. So we're still learning about him. 0:24:39.950 --> 0:24:42.390 Mike, last question for me on the two pitchers that 0:24:42.430 --> 0:24:44.790 both left the game early the last couple of days. 0:24:44.890 --> 0:24:47.010 Carson Wisenhunt, we got the report that he does have 0:24:47.070 --> 0:24:50.149 a torn UCL. So he'd be heading towards Tommy John surgery. 0:24:50.170 --> 0:24:52.169 And then yesterday, Adrian Hauser leaves the game with an 0:24:52.310 --> 0:24:54.879 elbow injury as well. Mike, we know that this is 0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:56.879 a part of the game for pitchers, but your thoughts 0:24:56.940 --> 0:24:58.710 on both of those guys leaving the game early and 0:24:58.750 --> 0:25:00.710 how that affects the Giants' rotation moving forward? 0:25:02.070 --> 0:25:06.770 It's just horrible. I mean, you rarely see two guys 0:25:06.830 --> 0:25:09.670 go out back-to-back and go out early in a game. 0:25:10.450 --> 0:25:12.250 And I just tip my cap to the bullpen. I mean, 0:25:12.270 --> 0:25:16.800 they really rallied the last two days. But we're waiting 0:25:16.820 --> 0:25:20.240 for the MRI return on Hauser, and hopefully it's not 0:25:20.820 --> 0:25:23.220 another Tommy John that has to be thrown his way. 0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:26.910 You don't trust, you know, twinges and elbows this late 0:25:26.930 --> 0:25:30.310 in the season. I mean, this is August. And, you know, 0:25:30.350 --> 0:25:33.990 guys have been throwing a long time. And you see 0:25:34.050 --> 0:25:36.830 arms going down, guys breaking down all around the league. 0:25:36.890 --> 0:25:41.260 So it is the era of the game. You know, 0:25:41.420 --> 0:25:43.900 when I pitch, you had, you know, guys that had three, 0:25:43.940 --> 0:25:48.020 four pitches. And a lot of them didn't even have change-ups. 0:25:48.580 --> 0:25:50.780 The fact that these guys are now throwing five, six, 0:25:50.859 --> 0:25:55.189 seven types of movements seven different types of pitches, it 0:25:55.230 --> 0:25:58.150 stresses out the arm. And I think they're more subjected 0:25:58.190 --> 0:26:01.350 to Tommy John and arm injuries now more than ever 0:26:01.770 --> 0:26:04.629 in the history of the game simply because they're throwing 0:26:04.850 --> 0:26:10.270 more types of pitches, especially pitches like splits and change-ups, 0:26:10.430 --> 0:26:15.130 which accelerate the arm speed. Those pitches, when you throw 0:26:15.190 --> 0:26:18.050 them as a pitcher, your arm speed is actually faster 0:26:18.090 --> 0:26:21.550 than that of a fastball. And the negative side of 0:26:21.570 --> 0:26:24.530 the throwing motion, the side of your motion that stops 0:26:24.570 --> 0:26:27.520 your arm after you throw it, it gets overloaded. And 0:26:27.540 --> 0:26:29.119 you see guys break down on the shoulder and the 0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:31.480 elbow all the time. So it's just a matter of 0:26:31.540 --> 0:26:34.500 the way that the game has evolved. It has evolved 0:26:34.540 --> 0:26:37.840 into where guys are, are now throwing many more movements, 0:26:38.010 --> 0:26:40.429 and it's definitely stressing out their arms. But to see 0:26:40.470 --> 0:26:42.209 it back-to-back days is really unusual. 0:26:42.230 --> 0:26:45.070 Yeah, really unusual. And so all good wishes to Landon 0:26:45.090 --> 0:26:46.550 Roop today as he takes the hill, trying to finish 0:26:46.590 --> 0:26:48.340 off this sweep, give the Giants their first sweep of 0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:51.140 the season against lefty Nick Lodolo of the Reds, former 0:26:51.180 --> 0:26:54.800 first-round pick back in 2019. Mike, last one for me 0:26:54.940 --> 0:26:59.280 is the guy who came in, to pitch after Hauser 0:26:59.300 --> 0:27:01.760 went down Anthony Molina. Now he was in the Tyler 0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:04.320 Malley trade. He was not a heralded prospect at all. 0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.360 His numbers were not awesome. I think giants fans saw 0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:09.699 him as maybe like a bulk middle inning guy or 0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.869 at best he's 24. He's young and man, did he 0:27:12.890 --> 0:27:14.910 give up some hard contact early? The reds were not 0:27:15.010 --> 0:27:17.510 fooled by him in the first couple innings. Great catches 0:27:17.550 --> 0:27:19.190 all over the place from Drew Gilbert to Turner Hill, 0:27:19.510 --> 0:27:22.570 but anything that you saw from this guy that the 0:27:22.590 --> 0:27:27.050 giants can take and believe in, Well. 0:27:27.390 --> 0:27:30.449 I mean, he's a little vulnerable that first inning or 0:27:30.490 --> 0:27:32.640 so because, you know, he's putting on the Giants uniform 0:27:32.660 --> 0:27:35.620 for the first time. And you can imagine the adrenaline 0:27:35.660 --> 0:27:38.240 that's running through him. So he's a little geeked up. 0:27:39.100 --> 0:27:42.020 But he was throwing strikes. I mean, to me, that's 0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:45.480 the take. Adam Balls are good fortune, don't get me wrong. 0:27:45.540 --> 0:27:47.320 But there's a lot of guys when they get that 0:27:47.380 --> 0:27:50.070 adrenaline going through their arm, they can't throw strikes or 0:27:50.109 --> 0:27:53.479 they lose pitches. He didn't. They got hit hard. They 0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.760 got caught. But after the adrenaline kind of wore down, 0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.159 I mean, he really settled in. And a nice blend 0:27:58.220 --> 0:28:00.470 of two types of movement with a fastball, good changeup. 0:28:00.930 --> 0:28:02.690 He was throwing all his pitches and all the counts 0:28:03.430 --> 0:28:06.550 and not afraid. So, I mean, there's a guy– you 0:28:06.630 --> 0:28:08.490 have to have bulk inning guys in the pen. You 0:28:08.550 --> 0:28:10.690 have to. A guy who can go through the lineup 0:28:10.770 --> 0:28:12.930 one time when a starter goes out early, as we've 0:28:12.950 --> 0:28:17.550 seen the last two nights. And if there's a situation 0:28:17.590 --> 0:28:20.550 where a starter goes down or warms up, can't go, Well, 0:28:20.570 --> 0:28:22.130 you have to have somebody who can go in there 0:28:23.060 --> 0:28:25.620 and be comfortable in a start where you've been given 0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.480 five minutes notice to. So I like what I've seen 0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:31.260 from this guy. He's 24 years old. So, you know, 0:28:31.460 --> 0:28:34.790 he's got some dirt under his fingernails. He's been around 0:28:34.810 --> 0:28:36.770 a little bit. And it showed last night the way 0:28:36.810 --> 0:28:39.130 he was able to compose himself. So he really made 0:28:39.150 --> 0:28:41.450 a nice name for himself very quickly in last night's game. 0:28:41.690 --> 0:28:43.510 Listen, Giants need bullpen arms, and if this guy can 0:28:43.530 --> 0:28:45.910 join the fray, we'll see over the next month. Last 0:28:45.930 --> 0:28:47.450 one is, did you see Pat Murphy last night, the 0:28:47.470 --> 0:28:50.150 Brewers manager, benching this kid Cooper Pratt for not running 0:28:50.170 --> 0:28:51.250 out of pop-up? Did you see that? 0:28:53.500 --> 0:28:55.780 No, I just read about it this morning, and Pratt's 0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:58.100 a shortstop, first-round pick, and we saw him, we were 0:28:58.140 --> 0:29:01.900 impressed with him, and blah, blah, blah. Young. Not hustling? 0:29:02.740 --> 0:29:06.280 Sit your butt down. And guess what? He shouldn't play today. 0:29:07.110 --> 0:29:11.170 It should be a one-and-a-half-game penalty, because there's no... excuse 0:29:11.210 --> 0:29:13.300 for that and I love the fact that he taught 0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.520 this lesson to this young player because you know what 0:29:16.020 --> 0:29:18.200 everybody in that clubhouse has picked off that this kid 0:29:18.220 --> 0:29:22.620 didn't do it either and you know you'll get veterans 0:29:22.660 --> 0:29:24.720 come up to a rookie and tell them that's not 0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:26.910 something that we do you need to kick it in 0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.530 another gear but it doesn't have the same impact as 0:29:29.570 --> 0:29:32.650 to when a manager sits you down or takes you 0:29:32.690 --> 0:29:34.550 out of a game in the middle of a game 0:29:34.590 --> 0:29:37.810 and embarrasses you not only in front of your teammates 0:29:38.030 --> 0:29:40.860 but in front of everybody in that ballpark So that's 0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:43.180 a lesson, hopefully, that he learns and we never see 0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:45.810 from him again. And unfortunately, some guys have to learn 0:29:45.830 --> 0:29:49.110 that way. It doesn't always happen to rookies. You see 0:29:49.150 --> 0:29:52.110 it happen with veterans, too. I think any time you 0:29:52.170 --> 0:29:53.690 see it, it should be called and a guy should 0:29:53.710 --> 0:29:56.130 have to come out of the game. There's no tolerance 0:29:56.170 --> 0:29:57.350 for that in my book. 0:29:57.830 --> 0:30:00.610 Mike, the Pat Murphy quotes are great. He talks about 0:30:00.650 --> 0:30:02.330 how he didn't get a bunt down earlier in the game, 0:30:02.550 --> 0:30:04.540 and he should have bunted a strike, and that ticked 0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.000 off Murphy. And then the pop-up where he didn't run 0:30:07.020 --> 0:30:09.960 it out. It's a long quote, but he says you've 0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:11.320 got to be locked in if you're going to play 0:30:11.340 --> 0:30:13.540 at this level. So hopefully it's a good learning experience. 0:30:13.580 --> 0:30:14.700 He says, I love the kid, and I believe in 0:30:14.740 --> 0:30:17.050 the kid. He said, but, and he's a great defender, 0:30:17.110 --> 0:30:19.730 but this is not tolerated by anybody. And it sends 0:30:19.770 --> 0:30:22.910 a message to everybody else too. You better run. So, 0:30:22.930 --> 0:30:25.550 I mean, this is, I am surprised that today's day 0:30:25.590 --> 0:30:27.950 and age, this happens. And I, to be honest, I'm okay. 0:30:27.970 --> 0:30:29.570 If Tony V started talking like this, Mike. 0:30:32.190 --> 0:30:34.110 Well, I mean, he's backed it up already. He's just, 0:30:34.150 --> 0:30:36.350 I mean, that's a big part of every manager in 0:30:36.370 --> 0:30:39.130 the big leagues, Tony, no exception. And you can't do it. 0:30:39.150 --> 0:30:40.830 I think it may, I think it's a little more 0:30:40.870 --> 0:30:44.660 impactful when you do it with a veteran and Because 0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:46.780 if you do it to one of your big core guys, 0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.600 then the rookies take notice of that. Well, I have 0:30:50.620 --> 0:30:55.200 to run out. But whatever the situation presents itself, I 0:30:55.220 --> 0:30:56.580 think it should be handled the same way. 0:30:58.220 --> 0:31:00.980 Good stuff, Mike. Go put on your Dolly Parton. You 0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.640 have a day game today. Landon Roop, Giants going for 0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:05.940 the sweep, and enjoy the heck out of it. We'll 0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:06.570 talk to you Friday. 0:31:06.710 --> 0:31:07.150 Thanks, Mike. 0:31:08.130 --> 0:31:10.470 Mike Kruko, every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. I just saw 0:31:10.490 --> 0:31:12.210 that Pat Murphy stuff. His quotes were great. I was 0:31:12.230 --> 0:31:13.750 just checking it out right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To 0:31:13.770 --> 0:31:15.740 be honest, Tony could have done that with Willie Adamas. 0:31:16.020 --> 0:31:16.340 Yeah. 0:31:16.620 --> 0:31:18.500 I mean, there have been some people who have complained 0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:20.960 about Rafael Devers not running hard out of the box. 0:31:21.140 --> 0:31:23.100 There was just a ball that just dropped the other week. Yeah, 0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:24.920 it's funny you say that about Devers. It's true. There 0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:26.920 are other times, though. He's busting ass out there. It 0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:27.510 surprises you. 0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.590 Yeah, he's a pretty good base runner when he needs 0:31:30.660 --> 0:31:32.250 to be. Like, if he needs to get first to 0:31:32.290 --> 0:31:34.630 third in a certain situation, he'll hustle, but he's not 0:31:34.650 --> 0:31:36.870 going to hustle every single time out of the box. 0:31:36.930 --> 0:31:39.130 So we go in George Orwell. All animals are equal. 0:31:39.190 --> 0:31:41.050 Some animals are more equal than other animals. 0:31:41.090 --> 0:31:43.230 Yeah, when you hit 30 home runs, you're allowed to 0:31:43.290 --> 0:31:44.710 walk out of the box every once in a while. 0:31:44.770 --> 0:31:46.330 Only 28, dude, only 28. Yeah, he's on pace, he's 0:31:46.410 --> 0:31:48.490 on pace. All right, all right. Hey, 49ers are the 0:31:48.540 --> 0:31:50.300 big hit, and I know we're going longer with Mike 0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.180 these days. We're squeezing everything we can out of Mike, 0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.840 and you guys understand why, right? So we appreciate everybody 0:31:54.860 --> 0:31:57.300 tuning in for that. We got some football, though, coming 0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:00.240 your way. Todd Husek at 8.50, Larry Kruger at 9.30, 0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:03.270 and some comments. Kyle Shanahan did not duck. The Jed 0:32:03.310 --> 0:32:05.210 York questions next on Esports Later. 0:32:06.090 --> 0:32:10.630 This is the big hit. Sponsored by Benjamin Moore Paints. 0:32:10.970 --> 0:32:14.570 Experience the Benjamin Moore retail difference at our independently owned 0:32:14.690 --> 0:32:20.070 authorized retailers today or at BenjaminMoore.com. Murph and Marcus continue 0:32:20.130 --> 0:32:24.820 live from the Casino Matrix Progressive Jackpot Studios. Casino Matrix. 0:32:25.150 --> 0:32:26.780 Progressive jackpots are here. 0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:28.700 Where are you? Just drop in. 0:32:28.700 --> 0:32:29.240 1-800-GAMBLER. 0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:33.320 Hey, the big hit takes on a different vibe today. 0:32:33.380 --> 0:32:35.440 Usually we have our big hit. This is the big 0:32:35.500 --> 0:32:39.550 hit with all your audio production. But today's a special day. 0:32:39.590 --> 0:32:44.030 We've been playing Dolly rejoins most all morning long. And Marcus, 0:32:44.050 --> 0:32:45.220 you remember during COVID? 0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.190 Yeah. Remember this? Oh, yes, I do. 0:32:47.190 --> 0:32:49.030 Let me hear a story from your version because you're 0:32:49.050 --> 0:32:51.670 a young man. You were six years younger back then. 0:32:51.690 --> 0:32:52.650 Yes, I was. 0:32:52.770 --> 0:32:53.850 I was a lot younger. 0:32:53.910 --> 0:32:58.280 Now, Murph, I've been waiting for this song all morning long. 0:32:58.470 --> 0:33:00.780 Going back to, I believe, what might have been my 0:33:00.860 --> 0:33:02.720 first ever pop culture showdown. 0:33:02.740 --> 0:33:06.020 It was Hums and Bums. Was it Hums and Bums? Oh, 0:33:06.100 --> 0:33:08.420 it was the passing of Kenny Rogers. That's what it was. 0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:11.300 We had COVID. We had to do Hums and Bums. 0:33:11.500 --> 0:33:14.360 There's no sports. How do you find three humbabies and 0:33:14.380 --> 0:33:16.540 three bumbabies? Like Korean baseball? 0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:18.690 I don't know. 0:33:19.230 --> 0:33:21.910 And Kenny Rogers sadly passed away right at the start 0:33:22.090 --> 0:33:24.190 of COVID. And I had the humbabies that week and 0:33:24.210 --> 0:33:26.420 I was like, well... I'm going to make the music 0:33:26.460 --> 0:33:29.340 of Kenny Rogers a home baby. And so we made 0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:31.620 it that, and I played this and you had never. 0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:35.320 No, that was my first time hearing this track and Murph. 0:33:35.460 --> 0:33:37.580 I've no, I know that we've done a good job 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:39.880 of putting each other on game when it comes to 0:33:40.010 --> 0:33:42.070 our own music selection, Larry June. 0:33:42.210 --> 0:33:42.450 I know. 0:33:42.510 --> 0:33:44.430 I mean, we can talk to the Russell, Larry June, 0:33:44.470 --> 0:33:47.710 but getting deep into the Kenny Rogers, Dolly Parton, this 0:33:47.930 --> 0:33:50.950 immediately got added to my playlist. This is something I'll 0:33:50.990 --> 0:33:53.270 throw on when I'm rolling one up or I'm hanging 0:33:53.310 --> 0:33:55.930 out on the boat. Like to me, this is, maybe 0:33:56.230 --> 0:33:57.910 not even, maybe this is my favorite dolly song. 0:33:57.990 --> 0:33:58.870 I love it. I love it. 0:33:58.870 --> 0:33:59.410 I love it. 0:33:59.450 --> 0:34:01.830 So yeah, man, we've had some fun all morning and man, 0:34:01.870 --> 0:34:04.170 it's sad. I tell you, and I sent this out 0:34:04.210 --> 0:34:06.520 on Twitter. I said, Twitter is the, maybe the most 0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:09.080 venomous place I've ever encountered in my life. Like it 0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.259 is so angry. Marcus taught me years ago. He taught 0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:14.839 the old guy a lesson. Comments suck. Yes, they can't 0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:16.819 go down that road. You can put out the most 0:34:16.860 --> 0:34:18.740 positive thing in the world and people like you suck. 0:34:18.780 --> 0:34:21.479 You suck. That sucks. This sucks. That sucks. This sucks. 0:34:22.420 --> 0:34:24.520 I went down a rabbit hole last night of Dolly Parton. 0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:29.330 I can't I have yet to find anything venomous or 0:34:29.410 --> 0:34:32.009 negative about Dolly Parton. And she's made so many people 0:34:32.030 --> 0:34:35.049 feel so good in her music, hit people on so 0:34:35.070 --> 0:34:38.469 many different levels and her acting and her humanitarian acts 0:34:38.550 --> 0:34:41.009 and just her. Something as simple as her talk. Go 0:34:41.030 --> 0:34:43.650 look at her little song she wrote for Johnny Carson 0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:45.740 when she said, I didn't make it until I got 0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:47.719 it on the Johnny Carson show. She wrote this little diddy. 0:34:47.900 --> 0:34:51.140 Everything she did makes you smile. And the proof was 0:34:51.180 --> 0:34:53.259 in the pudding. Everybody has a story about her just 0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:56.799 doing a solid for somebody here, a solid for somebody there. 0:34:57.460 --> 0:34:59.600 As one of the guys just said, she was a 0:34:59.700 --> 0:35:01.219 real one. She was a real one. 0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.359 She was bigger than just a pop culture icon. She's 0:35:04.380 --> 0:35:05.219 an American icon. 0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:05.560 Yeah. 0:35:05.660 --> 0:35:08.200 So there you go. That's our big hit intro. But 0:35:08.219 --> 0:35:09.910 we got to get into the 49ers. As I tell you, 0:35:09.950 --> 0:35:12.110 I listen to KMBR AM and KMBR FM San Francisco, 0:35:12.130 --> 0:35:15.310 the sports leader, a cumulus media station. And yeah, man, 0:35:15.450 --> 0:35:18.989 I was pretty impressed by Kyle Shanahan yesterday by going 0:35:19.090 --> 0:35:21.430 right into the Jed York questions. Marcus, you said it 0:35:21.489 --> 0:35:23.310 an hour ago and you said it really well, buddy. 0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:26.910 The Giants had this situation in June. Well, you didn't say. 0:35:26.930 --> 0:35:29.649 You just said, oh, not football questions only, which was good. 0:35:29.950 --> 0:35:32.880 But Marcus pointed out that the Giants had this situation 0:35:32.900 --> 0:35:35.680 in June with the pride thing. Sorry to rip open 0:35:35.700 --> 0:35:38.360 this wound for everybody, but they ran away from it. 0:35:39.190 --> 0:35:41.980 And It did not play well, obviously. It did not 0:35:42.020 --> 0:35:43.739 play well at all. No, I think they actually made 0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.300 it worse with the way they handled it. So Jed 0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:49.430 getting popped for a prostitution charge and all the embarrassment 0:35:49.610 --> 0:35:51.049 that comes with it, the fact that he's living out 0:35:51.070 --> 0:35:53.450 in Ohio now, how will this affect his decision? Will 0:35:53.489 --> 0:35:55.790 he face any punishment from the NFL? All these things 0:35:55.810 --> 0:35:59.490 that go on for the conduct policy. And they finally 0:35:59.530 --> 0:36:01.549 asked Kyle, it's funny how the reporters are. And I 0:36:01.590 --> 0:36:03.489 get it. I've been that reporter where you're like, you're 0:36:03.510 --> 0:36:05.410 not going to open with Jed. They opened by asking 0:36:05.430 --> 0:36:08.870 about left guard. How's the Carver Willis situation looking? I 0:36:08.890 --> 0:36:11.510 need an update on Connor Colby. And finally, after a few, 0:36:11.530 --> 0:36:13.410 then there was a Christian Kirk, and then there was 0:36:13.450 --> 0:36:16.649 Cut Day coming up. And finally, Cut D, he was asked, 0:36:16.690 --> 0:36:19.839 have you talked to Jed since the arrest? And he 0:36:19.930 --> 0:36:23.220 could have said, listen, guys, I'm not going to go there. Instead, 0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:23.700 he said this. 0:36:25.100 --> 0:36:29.180 Obviously, the news yesterday morning about Jed Have you had 0:36:29.219 --> 0:36:30.960 an opportunity to talk to him or just kind of 0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:35.029 what's your view and where things are with the organization 0:36:35.070 --> 0:36:36.230 moving forward? 0:36:36.270 --> 0:36:38.089 Yeah, I got to talk to Jed the last two 0:36:38.110 --> 0:36:42.669 days and today. Obviously, it's a very tough situation. Views 0:36:42.690 --> 0:36:45.070 for the organization going forward is the same as usual. 0:36:45.090 --> 0:36:47.049 I mean, there won't be any difference in that. But 0:36:47.090 --> 0:36:50.200 I know it's extremely fresh. I think it's a very, 0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:53.959 very personal situation. I got a lot of respect for Jed. 0:36:53.980 --> 0:36:54.400 I got a lot of. 0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:57.100 Respect for Danielle. Their family does mean a lot to me. 0:36:57.320 --> 0:36:59.569 So I'm like, With it being this personal, I'm trying 0:36:59.590 --> 0:37:00.610 as hard as I can to keep. 0:37:00.510 --> 0:37:00.870 It that way. 0:37:01.370 --> 0:37:03.549 So I thought it's all a good answer and the 0:37:03.590 --> 0:37:06.090 respect he has for Jed and Danielle. He mentioned Danielle, 0:37:06.469 --> 0:37:09.250 his wife, whom he's divorcing, which was really nice. And listen, 0:37:09.870 --> 0:37:12.310 the York family hired Kyle Shanahan, man. They gave him 0:37:12.350 --> 0:37:14.469 this opportunity to live out his dream. They've kept him 0:37:14.489 --> 0:37:17.169 there for nine years and for the foreseeable future, too. 0:37:18.110 --> 0:37:21.590 So he said, it's very, very personal. It's very, very fresh. 0:37:21.950 --> 0:37:24.589 And I'm trying to keep it personal, which I thought 0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.510 was a very fair Answer, there's a follow-up about Jed. 0:37:28.130 --> 0:37:31.950 How does this affect him being around the team? Cut E, Jacob. 0:37:33.370 --> 0:37:35.850 Practically, is it possible that Jed will be away from 0:37:35.890 --> 0:37:37.870 the team for a while or just not. 0:37:37.770 --> 0:37:38.650 As much as a presence? 0:37:39.450 --> 0:37:41.990 I mean, it's been like that this summer anyways, with 0:37:42.010 --> 0:37:43.780 him being out in Ohio and things like that. So 0:37:44.260 --> 0:37:45.980 there'd be no difference right now. He hasn't been here 0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:46.580 for training camp. 0:37:46.700 --> 0:37:49.640 How about that? So that was something we talked about yesterday. 0:37:49.660 --> 0:37:53.419 I had heard that he was moving to Ohio, mostly 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:55.620 for tax purposes, but also he's getting divorced and he's 0:37:55.660 --> 0:37:59.020 no longer with his wife. And the TMZ report had 0:37:59.060 --> 0:38:02.620 more details that he's now living in a house in Boardman, Ohio, 0:38:02.780 --> 0:38:05.430 owned by his parents. That's where he departed from for 0:38:05.450 --> 0:38:10.450 this ill-fated trip to Wheat Hill Mobile Park. And so 0:38:10.510 --> 0:38:11.529 he has not been around the team. 0:38:11.790 --> 0:38:12.029 No. 0:38:12.370 --> 0:38:13.590 And I know that there have been a lot of 0:38:13.610 --> 0:38:17.470 people asking questions about how that affects his role overall 0:38:17.489 --> 0:38:19.620 with the team. But to your point, his role has 0:38:19.660 --> 0:38:22.250 been reduced since Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch took over. 0:38:22.570 --> 0:38:26.310 Like this is not the same style of ownership that 0:38:26.410 --> 0:38:30.029 Jed was implementing when he was firing Jim Harbaugh. Like, no, 0:38:30.390 --> 0:38:33.319 he went down that row, obviously had the terrible years 0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.080 with Jim Tomsula and Chip Kelly. But once they brought 0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:38.660 in John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan, they're the ones making 0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:39.560 the football decisions. 0:38:39.860 --> 0:38:40.100 Yeah. 0:38:40.140 --> 0:38:42.120 Jed's still going to give the thumbs up and sign 0:38:42.180 --> 0:38:45.030 off on all of these moves and decisions. But to me, 0:38:45.130 --> 0:38:47.580 this doesn't really make a huge impact on, whether or 0:38:47.620 --> 0:38:49.860 not Jed's in Santa Clara or Ohio. 0:38:50.180 --> 0:38:53.620 Yeah, and I got to say, I, you know, listen, 0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.390 we had the celebrated interview in 2014 where he fired Harbaugh. 0:38:56.410 --> 0:38:58.009 He came on, and I questioned him all this stuff 0:38:58.050 --> 0:38:59.969 about firing Harbaugh, and it didn't go well, and he 0:39:00.010 --> 0:39:01.390 hasn't been on the show since. He hasn't been on 0:39:01.410 --> 0:39:03.930 KMBR since. I've said this on a number of times 0:39:03.950 --> 0:39:06.330 through the past several years. I think I even jock 0:39:06.370 --> 0:39:08.370 blogged about it. He deserves a lot of credit for 0:39:08.469 --> 0:39:11.260 changing and maturing as an owner. He really has stepped 0:39:11.300 --> 0:39:14.480 aside and let the football guys make the football decisions. 0:39:14.540 --> 0:39:17.160 Not everybody does it. Shout out Jerry Jones. Shout out 0:39:17.180 --> 0:39:17.640 Jerry Jones. 0:39:17.660 --> 0:39:18.000 Yeah. 0:39:18.860 --> 0:39:19.120 All right. 0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:21.720 So next one up is they continue to ask again, 0:39:22.739 --> 0:39:25.270 will this affect the way the team is run? Cut 0:39:25.510 --> 0:39:29.969 F here. Does that work as decisions get made? 0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:30.070 Up? 0:39:30.380 --> 0:39:31.800 Maybe there hasn't been one of those. 0:39:32.460 --> 0:39:34.319 Does it go to somebody else? Is it still got 0:39:34.340 --> 0:39:35.739 to be Jed? 0:39:35.930 --> 0:39:37.850 No, it's the same as always. I mean, Jed has 0:39:37.870 --> 0:39:39.489 been as good as it gets since I've been here 0:39:39.590 --> 0:39:42.350 on letting the football people make football decisions. I mean, 0:39:42.630 --> 0:39:44.509 Jed always wants to be informed and a part of things, 0:39:44.570 --> 0:39:47.379 but Jed has been– exactly what he said he would 0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:49.779 be and letting us make those decisions. And he always 0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:52.080 wants to know about them and stuff. And whether he's 0:39:52.140 --> 0:39:54.270 here in the building or a text away or on 0:39:54.290 --> 0:39:56.730 a phone call, that doesn't change anything. 0:39:57.469 --> 0:39:59.610 So that's to the point. He's saying, yeah, listen, he 0:39:59.650 --> 0:40:01.610 wants to know what's going on, but he lets John 0:40:01.650 --> 0:40:04.410 Lynch and Kyle Shanahan and the personnel office say, hey, 0:40:04.450 --> 0:40:07.260 let's go sign Osa Odigizuar. Let's go sign Mike Evans. 0:40:07.300 --> 0:40:09.339 Let's go sign Christian Kirk. And I'm guessing moving forward 0:40:09.380 --> 0:40:11.140 that Jed is still going to be in the loop. 0:40:11.340 --> 0:40:13.480 I just don't know if we're going to see him publicly, 0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:15.359 if we're going to see him show and face week 0:40:15.460 --> 0:40:18.240 one down in Australia. Yeah, I mean, the nuclear scenario 0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:20.000 that people throw out, does this force a sale of 0:40:20.060 --> 0:40:23.020 the team? Probably not. I mean, it's not like the guy, listen, 0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.040 as bad as it was, it's a misdemeanor. It's not 0:40:25.060 --> 0:40:27.149 a felony. It's not, you know. He didn't get caught 0:40:27.170 --> 0:40:29.629 doing stuff. Like poor Eddie, unfortunately, I hate to drag 0:40:29.670 --> 0:40:32.569 it out. You know, he committed a federal crime. And 0:40:32.590 --> 0:40:34.450 that was a tough deal. And the league had to 0:40:34.489 --> 0:40:35.890 step in and strip the team from Eddie. And that 0:40:35.910 --> 0:40:37.209 was a big deal. The league's not going to strip 0:40:37.230 --> 0:40:39.840 the team from Jed over this. It's an embarrassment is 0:40:39.860 --> 0:40:43.180 what it is. It's a misdemeanor. It's humiliating for sure. 0:40:43.700 --> 0:40:45.219 but people thinking that's going to force a sale of 0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:47.080 the team. I think that's a little step too far. 0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:50.880 Is it a distraction though? You had Kyle's accident, July 14th, 0:40:51.340 --> 0:40:53.680 doesn't get reported until July 25th. And now this, these 0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:55.770 things just tend to kind of swirl around a team, 0:40:55.810 --> 0:40:57.690 but Kyle says, no, dude, we're just trying to win 0:40:57.710 --> 0:40:58.770 football games. Cut H. 0:41:00.270 --> 0:41:02.969 Between your accident and the whole story with Jed, is 0:41:02.989 --> 0:41:06.029 there any impact you think on the football and on 0:41:06.070 --> 0:41:07.150 the team in any way? 0:41:07.170 --> 0:41:10.210 I mean, I don't get how my story has an 0:41:10.250 --> 0:41:11.009 impact on the team. 0:41:11.030 --> 0:41:14.089 I mean, Some people say these are distractions. 0:41:14.650 --> 0:41:17.370 In any way, does it impact the football in any way? No. 0:41:17.410 --> 0:41:19.510 Just questions you've got to answer. 0:41:20.989 --> 0:41:22.890 Just questions you've got to answer. He went on and 0:41:22.910 --> 0:41:24.839 he talked about that. You expanded on that quote where 0:41:24.860 --> 0:41:27.440 he said, it's like anybody has to answer a question 0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:29.920 from a non-football person, right? Yeah, exactly. 0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:32.879 He talked about how players have to answer questions from 0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:37.480 media members quoting PFF and their football grades from non-football people. 0:41:37.820 --> 0:41:40.120 He talked about how Brock Purdy, if he throws an interception, 0:41:40.180 --> 0:41:42.730 has to address the media. Hell, we've had guys had 0:41:42.770 --> 0:41:44.930 to sit there and answer questions about guys like Brandon 0:41:45.010 --> 0:41:47.200 Ayuk and off-field issues that they don't want to deal with. 0:41:47.450 --> 0:41:49.100 But that's part of the job. I mean, we have 0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:51.259 a bad segment. Sometimes we have to address it as well. 0:41:51.340 --> 0:41:53.840 It's like, yeah, there are times where there are things 0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:56.040 that you don't want to talk about. But it's part 0:41:56.060 --> 0:41:58.339 of the job. And still, at the end of the day, 0:41:58.540 --> 0:42:00.860 your job is to perform on the field. And if 0:42:00.900 --> 0:42:03.120 you perform well enough, people are going to talk about 0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.520 more of the on-field issues and the things going on 0:42:06.780 --> 0:42:09.609 instead of the off-field issues and the storylines that make 0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:10.489 headlines on TMZ. 0:42:10.510 --> 0:42:12.710 What do you mean bad segment? I've never heard of it. 0:42:12.730 --> 0:42:13.390 Allegedly. Blown segment. 0:42:13.430 --> 0:42:16.230 Finally, Shanahan, another question, follow-up. Is it a distraction to 0:42:16.250 --> 0:42:16.450 the team? 0:42:16.469 --> 0:42:16.660 Cut him. 0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:25.420 My view is, as the coach, does it have an 0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:27.819 effect on us as a team? And that's what I 0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:30.219 continue to answer on. From a football standpoint, it has 0:42:30.260 --> 0:42:31.940 no effect on us. I mean, as far as what 0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:34.200 we do day to day, what we talk about, it 0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:36.109 hasn't been mentioned in a meeting today. It doesn't have 0:42:36.140 --> 0:42:38.770 to do with what happens on the field. Everything outside 0:42:38.810 --> 0:42:40.549 of there, I think you guys can judge that better 0:42:40.570 --> 0:42:40.830 than me. 0:42:41.150 --> 0:42:41.350 Yeah. 0:42:41.550 --> 0:42:43.410 Well, listen, I gave Kyle a lot of credit. He 0:42:43.469 --> 0:42:46.250 stood there, answered all the questions. And as we said, 0:42:46.550 --> 0:42:48.490 that's the best way to do it. Because I think 0:42:48.530 --> 0:42:50.529 pretty much after this, we may not be talking about this. 0:42:50.610 --> 0:42:53.230 I mean, they're going to play the Raiders tomorrow night, 0:42:53.250 --> 0:42:56.129 and then we're going to get ready for the trip 0:42:56.150 --> 0:42:59.469 to Australia, which is next Wednesday, right? And so as 0:42:59.510 --> 0:43:01.410 long as nothing else happens with Jed or if the 0:43:01.450 --> 0:43:04.630 league just finds him or something like that, then it 0:43:04.670 --> 0:43:05.310 will go away. 0:43:05.390 --> 0:43:05.529 Yeah. 0:43:06.020 --> 0:43:08.819 Me and less, you know, yeah. The divorce proceedings take 0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:09.120 a turn. 0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:09.420 Yeah. 0:43:09.580 --> 0:43:11.000 I don't know how this story is going to continue 0:43:11.020 --> 0:43:13.260 to play out, but me personally, like I'm more concerned 0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:15.520 about like Mike Evans leaving practice yesterday with a groin 0:43:15.540 --> 0:43:17.660 injury or Nick Bosa being healthy and getting on the 0:43:17.700 --> 0:43:21.090 field or rumors about a potential hold in with Christian McCaffrey. 0:43:21.130 --> 0:43:23.310 Like those are the things that actually are going to 0:43:23.410 --> 0:43:25.350 impact the 49er season in the record. 0:43:25.710 --> 0:43:26.470 Jed York's not. 0:43:26.430 --> 0:43:30.910 Calling up plays or dialing up schemes to confuse Matthew Stafford. Like, yes, 0:43:31.170 --> 0:43:33.720 this is a bit of a distraction with the media 0:43:33.900 --> 0:43:36.060 outside of football, but But at the end of the day, 0:43:36.100 --> 0:43:37.339 you still got to make plays on the field. 0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:37.880 Yeah. 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:39.880 So here we go, guys. There you go. I mean, 0:43:39.900 --> 0:43:41.960 the Kyle addressed it and he said it as best 0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:45.760 he can. I still do believe given my vast experience 0:43:45.780 --> 0:43:48.080 in this life, there is a general energy and a 0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:50.950 static that will drag down. a team, they're going to 0:43:50.989 --> 0:43:53.250 have to overcome it. Doesn't mean they can't overcome it. 0:43:53.290 --> 0:43:56.880 They can overcome it, but there is, it's better if 0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:59.759 everybody's healthy and your owner doesn't get popped for prostitution 0:43:59.900 --> 0:44:02.339 and your head coach didn't get into a car accident. 0:44:02.390 --> 0:44:02.759 Yeah. 0:44:02.890 --> 0:44:08.169 And if you don't practice next to a substation, very good. Well, 0:44:08.210 --> 0:44:10.399 to those football questions, he did address some of those 0:44:10.460 --> 0:44:13.460 to George Kittle, Nick Bosa. He talked about Dajon Stribling. 0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.060 So more Kyle next on the sports leader.