Speaker 1: Spanning the globe we're gonna get drunk before the game
Speaker 1: we're gonna get drunk during the game and then we
Speaker 1: get drunk after the game the thrill of victory the
Speaker 1: agony of defeat.
Speaker 2: I'll be in ireland like looking around going damn i lost.
Speaker 1: This is the wide world of walt hey great opening.
Speaker 2: The only problem is walt ain't here And the only
Speaker 2: problem is, is that we have no open for Jake
Speaker 2: Vigilante's Vigilant Views.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: Which 559 has already checked in and said, forget Triple E,
Speaker 2: we got Triple V.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So we are pausing our Dolly Parton rejoins to get
Speaker 2: a little pitbull.
Speaker 4: We are pausing our Dolly rejoins for a Triple E rejoin.
Speaker 4: This was his favorite song to snowboard to flying down
Speaker 4: the mountain.
Speaker 2: Man, the things you learn in life. The things you
Speaker 2: learn in life. That's a true story, Jacob. That's a
Speaker 2: true story. All right, so here's the deal. We do
Speaker 2: this every Wednesday at 7.15 to set the middle of
Speaker 2: the week sort of like flagpole, but... Young Tony left
Speaker 2: for TV. And Walt's taking care of his baby. We
Speaker 2: got our third stringer. But you know what? Really our
Speaker 2: first stringer.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: He's the Adrian Martinez of KNBR. My man, Jacob. The
Speaker 2: Vigilante Violante San Jose Zone. Good morning. What up, Jacob?
Speaker 2: Vigilante's Vigilant Views.
Speaker 3: How you doing, buddy?
Speaker 5: Like Adrian Martinez. I'm still on the roster, bud.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's go, buddy.
Speaker 3: I'm ready.
Speaker 2: I'm ready.
Speaker 3: I'm ready.
Speaker 6: Still shook up about the fireball. Triple East fireball. All right,
Speaker 6: number one, guys. We got Boucher's Raiders in town. Niners
Speaker 6: Raiders is back. This is a question for Murph, Marcus, whoever,
Speaker 6: or mainly for Murph.
Speaker 2: Usually goes old guy first, prettier guy second.
Speaker 3: That's me.
Speaker 2: I'm the pretty guy. And then we alternate.
Speaker 5: You're the old guy, Murph.
Speaker 6: Aside from Jerry Rice, obviously he turned Niner to Raider.
Speaker 6: Which former 49er legend would hurt? you the most to
Speaker 6: see wearing the silver and black?
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Well, it's already happened. I mean, the answer is like
Speaker 2: the answer is Ronnie Lott. Ronnie Lott wore silver and black, dude.
Speaker 2: So for me, and then throw in the recently inducted
Speaker 2: pro football hall of famer, Roger Craig, Roger Craig wore
Speaker 2: a silver back. Freaking Tom Rathman. We're silver and black.
Speaker 2: So this has been a, this has just been a,
Speaker 2: you know, Al, I'm going to hurt you. I'm going
Speaker 2: to take your most beloved and I'm going to put
Speaker 2: them in my, in my silver and black. I mean,
Speaker 2: just Al, just flat out, just coming right down our
Speaker 2: road here. So the answer is, is already here. But
Speaker 2: if I want to play along and say a future one,
Speaker 2: like if it ever happened again, I'm just going to
Speaker 2: play along with the game and say, I would say
Speaker 2: that if Bryant Young ever wore silver and black, I
Speaker 2: think I might have to get on the motorcycle and
Speaker 2: head up the coast. You know what I mean? So
Speaker 2: that's my answer, Jacob. Now, it would be interesting for
Speaker 2: him to answer this question because he doesn't have beloved 49ers. Oh, well,
Speaker 2: I believe that. Are you going to flip the script
Speaker 2: on him?
Speaker 5: Dude, we're going to reverse this thing.
Speaker 1: Marcus.
Speaker 6: Former Raider turn in Niner Empire. Who would you hate
Speaker 6: to see it? You know, this is a good question
Speaker 6: because Murph's right. There's been so much crossover between the
Speaker 6: red and gold and the silver and black throughout the years.
Speaker 6: And with my role now currently as somebody who covers
Speaker 6: the 49ers, host a sports talk radio show on the flagship.
Speaker 6: Everybody always pokes the needle with me now about Max
Speaker 6: Crosby potentially being traded to the 49ers. And despite what
Speaker 6: you might think, I wouldn't hate it because at least
Speaker 6: I'd be able to cover Max Crosby every single day.
Speaker 6: And maybe we'd bring him on as the 49er player
Speaker 6: of the week.
Speaker 2: So I might go back before.
Speaker 4: I started working at KMBR and It would have hurt
Speaker 4: me to see Khalil mag traded to the 49ers. I
Speaker 4: know that the 49ers were rumored to be involved in
Speaker 4: those trade discussions, but obviously the Raiders shipped them out
Speaker 4: to the Chicago bears. But I think my final answer
Speaker 4: that I'm locking in on arguably my favorite Raider of
Speaker 4: all time, number 24, Charles Williams. If I had to
Speaker 4: see Seawood play for the 49ers as a kid growing up,
Speaker 4: that would have broke my heart. He already left us
Speaker 4: once to go to the Green Bay Packers. Shout out
Speaker 4: your boy Aaron Rodgers for getting him a Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 4: But then he came back to the silver and black
Speaker 4: Charles Woods in my all time favorite. That would hurt
Speaker 4: me a little bit as a kid.
Speaker 2: There it is, man. You really ripped over some wounds there, buddy.
Speaker 2: But don't forget Jim Plunkett also was a crossover and
Speaker 2: somebody's running in Jerry Rice. Well, he laid that out
Speaker 2: in the opening part of the question that Jerry Rice
Speaker 2: is the ultimate.
Speaker 3: Yes, Jacob.
Speaker 5: Also, being a Niner, so now I give you guys
Speaker 5: a point, right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Who gets the point?
Speaker 3: Who wins?
Speaker 2: Who was more persuasive?
Speaker 3: Compelling?
Speaker 2: Yes, compelling.
Speaker 6: Okay, I like Boucher's argument, but I'm going to give
Speaker 6: Murph the point here just because I would have rather
Speaker 6: seen my guy Chuck Woodson in Niner red and gold
Speaker 6: than the damn Packers.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Didn't need that in my life. Okay, I'm just
Speaker 2: taking the point. And he won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: I'm just taking the point. Plus, that would be tough
Speaker 4: for you to see B.Y. not only play for USC,
Speaker 4: but also for the Raiders. Two jerseys you don't want
Speaker 4: to see.
Speaker 2: He was in Notre Dame. Oh, my apologies. My apologies.
Speaker 2: That's Notre Dame. Ronnie Lott is the Trojan who breaks
Speaker 2: the rules. That's on me. I owe push-ups to B.Y.
Speaker 3: Yeah, B.Y.
Speaker 2: Is not going to appreciate that at all.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 4: That goes back to the story of the one time.
Speaker 4: I think I told you real quick digression. Me and
Speaker 4: my dad saw BY at a Verizon wireless. And my
Speaker 4: dad told me to go up and talk S to
Speaker 4: BY about Notre Dame versus USC.
Speaker 2: Whoa. Your dad's not an SC fan, is he?
Speaker 4: No, he just wanted to poke the bear a little bit.
Speaker 4: I think my dad just wanted to get me in trouble.
Speaker 2: Okay. I think that's why I got the story confused.
Speaker 3: Again, my apologies.
Speaker 2: Ken Boucher is sending his son into the snake pit.
Speaker 2: Looking for that smoke. All right, Jacob, what do we got?
Speaker 2: What do we got?
Speaker 6: All right, we're going to stick on the Niners Raiders
Speaker 6: a little bit. Dude, the Bay Area used to have
Speaker 6: awesome rivalries. We had Niners Raiders. We had Giants A's,
Speaker 6: which both are kind of sort of gone. Which one
Speaker 6: would you rather see come back? Bay Area rivalry.
Speaker 4: Well, I would rather the Raiders still be in Oakland
Speaker 4: than the A's still be in Oakland. But as far
Speaker 4: as rivalry goes, I'll have to admit, I think the
Speaker 4: A's Giants rivalry is bigger on the field because of
Speaker 4: the 89 World Series. Obviously, we've never seen the 49ers
Speaker 4: and the Raiders square off in the Super Bowl. Maybe
Speaker 4: a little bit more passion off the field between Raiders
Speaker 4: and 49er fans. But I think the better rivalry would
Speaker 4: still be the Bay Bridge series between the A's and
Speaker 4: the Giants. So I would bring back the baseball rivalry,
Speaker 4: despite the fact that me personally, I want the Raiders
Speaker 4: back in Oakland.
Speaker 2: It's a good question. As always, Jacob's hot right now.
Speaker 2: And I get it. When the Giants play the A's,
Speaker 2: I do feel a certain kind of way I get.
Speaker 2: And I lived in Oakland for seven years and it
Speaker 2: was traumatic. It was traumatic because, dude, let me tell
Speaker 2: you what, they don't like you over there. They don't
Speaker 2: like you. They can say they like you, but they
Speaker 2: don't like you. And so it's real. Oakland A's fans
Speaker 2: do not like the Giants and they don't like Giants fans.
Speaker 2: That said, I have to say that even from a
Speaker 2: young age, when the 49ers would play the Raiders, even
Speaker 2: in preseason, There was something about those colors on the
Speaker 2: same field that was so freaking epic to me. It
Speaker 2: was like, it was grander than the baseball to me.
Speaker 2: It was like, well, first of all, the NFL is
Speaker 2: bigger than major league baseball. Number two, Al Davis was,
Speaker 2: you know, I go back to the Al days and
Speaker 2: everything when the Raiders were really good and the Niners weren't.
Speaker 2: And it was, it sucked because the Raiders were, no,
Speaker 2: they didn't play in the same division. They didn't play
Speaker 2: in the same conference. They didn't even play each other
Speaker 2: every year in regular season. It was very rare. It
Speaker 2: was like every season. Several years. But I would say
Speaker 2: that the Niner helmet and the Raider helmet on the
Speaker 2: field is, to me, grander than the Giants and the A's.
Speaker 2: So I'm going with the football.
Speaker 5: All right. Well, I'm going to give Boucher this one
Speaker 5: for sure.
Speaker 6: Just because, dude, I grew up going to A's games, man.
Speaker 6: And so, like, being in the Coliseum for... A's were
Speaker 6: back in the early 2000s when they had, you know, Mulder, Hudson, Zitos.
Speaker 2: Awesome.
Speaker 6: And I've also been in the in the black hole
Speaker 6: one time, baby. And it was it was against Peyton
Speaker 6: Manning and the Broncos. And, dude, I just I think
Speaker 6: I'm right there with you, dude. The Bay Bridge series
Speaker 6: was so awesome back in the day. I want that
Speaker 6: one back. I'm giving it to Bush.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And it's the fact that we got the Bay Bridge
Speaker 4: series every year where 49ers and Raiders, you get them
Speaker 4: once every election cycle. And it even got to the
Speaker 4: point where the preseason games got too rowdy, where they
Speaker 4: stopped playing each other in preseason.
Speaker 2: I'm going to look up. They did not. Now, now
Speaker 2: there's a formula in the NFL schedules where you wind
Speaker 2: up playing every division every fourth year. I'm going to
Speaker 2: go ahead and say when I was growing up, it
Speaker 2: wasn't that way. I'm going to go say it was
Speaker 2: very rare. I'm going to try to find the 49ers Raiders.
Speaker 2: regular season history. But wait a minute. I want to
Speaker 2: get back to you going to these A's games. Why
Speaker 2: were you going to the Coliseum more than, uh, more than, uh, uh,
Speaker 2: Akbel Park? It was cheaper.
Speaker 6: You used to get like the, the family group pack, dude. We,
Speaker 6: we would be like chilling right by the A's bullpen.
Speaker 6: The boys would be goofing around on the field, coming
Speaker 6: over to sign autographs.
Speaker 5: It was awesome.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So I'm getting pangs for the Coliseum now. So, so
Speaker 2: they only played in, okay. So they did play every
Speaker 2: four years, 70, 74, 79, 82, 85, 88, 91, 92, 94.
Speaker 2: It was rare. That's what made it even grander. Anyway,
Speaker 2: he got the point. I take the L.
Speaker 1: 1-1.
Speaker 7: 1-1.
Speaker 6: We're coming down the stretch here. This is a little
Speaker 6: off the grid one. This is a.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 6: We got a sound element? No, there's not a sound element. Alright,
Speaker 6: we got college football. We know you guys are both
Speaker 6: big college football guys. San Jose State especially. We love
Speaker 6: our Spartans.
Speaker 2: Coach Ken tomorrow, baby.
Speaker 5: I practiced it. Go Navy, by the way.
Speaker 2: Yes, buddy. Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 5: For Larry V and for which Murphy is it?
Speaker 2: Declan.
Speaker 3: Declan. Declan Murphy.
Speaker 5: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Navy water polo scrimmage at Princeton Saturday.
Speaker 8: Yes.
Speaker 5: You got to take care of that Princeton offense.
Speaker 2: They're going to be backdoor cutting in the pool all day.
Speaker 2: What do you got?
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 6: This is the classic, like, you know, you, uh, you
Speaker 6: break up with your girlfriend and you're done with the relationship.
Speaker 5: And then you see her looking.
Speaker 6: Good or whatever, or you're not doing too hot and
Speaker 6: you want to go back into that relationship.
Speaker 5: This is college football related.
Speaker 6: With it kicking off this weekend, we got some dudes
Speaker 6: who get to go to the NFL now, try out,
Speaker 6: and then they can maybe go back to school if
Speaker 6: it doesn't work out.
Speaker 3: Gross.
Speaker 5: Are you pro or against this crawl back to college?
Speaker 2: I mean, this is one that you, we were squeezing
Speaker 2: this into the last 60 seconds here, bro. You could
Speaker 2: do 60 days on this one, man. It is crazy,
Speaker 2: but man, I'd like to say that the old part
Speaker 2: of me from the old days of Keith Jackson on
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl would say, you can't do that. But, bro,
Speaker 2: the barrier has been broken. They're all getting paid now.
Speaker 2: It calls into question a very fundamental question. What is
Speaker 2: college football? Is it pro football? Is it minor leagues
Speaker 2: for pros now? I'd like to say, no, you can't
Speaker 2: go back. And I know the SEC and Big Ten
Speaker 2: voted that, but. I just being a hypocrite because I've
Speaker 2: always thought the college players should get paid because the
Speaker 2: university presidents are stealing all the money as were the coaches.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to have to say that, yeah, given
Speaker 2: a five year eligibility, maximum, maximum, that's my big thing.
Speaker 2: You can only have five years of eligibility. Heck, I
Speaker 2: only have four, but I'll give you five. But if
Speaker 2: you're within your five years eligibility, I got to say grudgingly,
Speaker 2: you can do it.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: I'm shocked by that answer.
Speaker 4: Now I agree with you that NIL and the money
Speaker 4: in college football has completely changed the landscape.
Speaker 2: We just heard George.
Speaker 4: Kittle tell a story the other day about how there
Speaker 4: are some rookies on this team that made more money
Speaker 4: with their NIL deal than they will be their rookie
Speaker 4: season in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So that's great.
Speaker 2: Get your money.
Speaker 4: But if you declare for the draft, if you decide
Speaker 4: to walk away from that money, you can't go back
Speaker 4: you've made your decision you've made your choice maybe you
Speaker 4: should have got some better advice from your agent or
Speaker 4: your friends and family surrounding you that you should have
Speaker 4: stayed in college and got that nl money to begin
Speaker 4: with but to me once you declare for the draft
Speaker 4: once you put on an nfl uniform you should not
Speaker 4: be going back to college football uh we gotta get.
Speaker 2: The crew who gets the point.
Speaker 6: Dude i'm i'm with boucher on this one he gets
Speaker 6: the point It's the same thing in high school.
Speaker 5: When you leave high school, you can't come back there.
Speaker 2: Tell that to Wooderson. Come on, buddy.
Speaker 5: Good call.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 5: All right, all right, all right.
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 2: Jacob did a good job. Yeah, nicely done, Jacob.
Speaker 1: We're just up against you.
Speaker 2: We've got to get going for Krug. Nice job, Vigilante's
Speaker 2: vigilant views. Yeah, I think I like you better than Walter.
Speaker 2: Walter never gives me wins.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2: It's true. Yeah, Walter always gives it the murph. Mike
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Speaker 2: We love talking to Mike. Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, Johnson
Speaker 2: won two in a row. They're going for a sweep today. Man,
Speaker 2: another bad injury to a starting pitcher. Lots to talk about.
Speaker 2: But before we get to any of that, Mike. I
Speaker 2: heard you do it last night on the broadcast, and
Speaker 2: we've been playing rejoins all morning. Let's open with the
Speaker 2: global morning for Dolly Parton. Now, you're a music guy
Speaker 2: all the way. We know when the crew goes get together, man,
Speaker 2: the instruments come out and the sing-alongs get going. And
Speaker 2: I could only imagine Dolly coming to your house for
Speaker 2: a sing-along is the collaboration I needed, Mike, because you
Speaker 2: guys have the same kind of energy and positivity. And
Speaker 2: just your thoughts on, you know, your kind of career
Speaker 2: was when she was a superstar, too. So good morning.
Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good morning. A sad day. I mean, she was
Speaker 3: a gift in so many ways. You know, in my life,
Speaker 3: you know, you kind of get pigeonholed into a style
Speaker 3: of music and whatnot, and you kind of bypass it.
Speaker 3: And then later on in my life, I would, you know,
Speaker 3: I would find these singers that were amazing. I remember
Speaker 3: one time I was in a record store in San
Speaker 3: Luis Obispo, just, you know, just, you know, killing time,
Speaker 3: looking at albums. I hear this woman singing. in the
Speaker 3: music store. And I'm listening, I'm going, damn, that gal's amazing.
Speaker 3: And I went over to the guy at the, behind
Speaker 3: the desk. I said, who's that singing? He goes, well,
Speaker 3: that's Ella Fitzgerald. No. Well, I get it. Like one song,
Speaker 3: I could get all the fuss. And I, you know, I,
Speaker 3: I didn't know anything about this gal. Right. And then
Speaker 3: I dove into her and whatnot. I did the same
Speaker 3: thing with Frank Sinatra. I discovered him late and it
Speaker 3: was that way with Dolly Parton. I mean, the first
Speaker 3: time I heard her, was, I mean, I couldn't believe
Speaker 3: her voice. As pure as pure can be. And the
Speaker 3: other thing about her, I mean, Dolly Parton, I would
Speaker 3: hear a song and I'd say, that's a great song.
Speaker 3: Did she write that song? No. Dolly Parton wrote that song.
Speaker 3: I'll bet that happened a dozen times in my life.
Speaker 3: And so she was just a star and wasn't an
Speaker 3: accomplished musician, but the voice was just, it was so
Speaker 3: pure and so good. And she had so much fun.
Speaker 3: And when you watched her perform, she brought joy. And
Speaker 3: she was just happy. She was doing what she was
Speaker 3: put on the surface. And she knew it. And everything
Speaker 3: about what she did was fun. Even Dollywood. I mean,
Speaker 3: everybody raised their eyebrows. My son went to Dollywood when
Speaker 3: he was touring in Tennessee. And he said, Dad, it
Speaker 3: was unbelievable. It was so much fun. And I think
Speaker 3: that's the way she was, and she just brought happiness
Speaker 3: to a lot of people, certainly to our family.
Speaker 2: I'm going to kind of go off the grid here.
Speaker 2: I know we'll get to the Giants in just a second,
Speaker 2: but all the tributes that came out yesterday were so amazing.
Speaker 2: This is one from the late Roger Ebert. Did you
Speaker 2: see this? Do you remember the movie reviewer Roger Ebert? Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: He and Siskel and Ebert. He wrote this. This is incredible.
Speaker 2: He goes, in Dallas for the premiere of 9 to 5,
Speaker 2: the movie 9 to 5. I had an uncanny experience,
Speaker 2: and on the plane home to Chicago, I confessed it
Speaker 2: to Siskel. I had been granted a private half hour
Speaker 2: with Dolly Parton, and as we spoke, I was filled
Speaker 2: with a strange, ethereal grace. This was not spiritual, nor
Speaker 2: was it sexual. It was healing and comforting. Jean listened
Speaker 2: and said, Roger, I felt the exact same thing during
Speaker 2: my interview with her. We looked at each other. What
Speaker 2: did this mean? Neither one of us ever felt that
Speaker 2: feeling again. From time to time, we would refer to
Speaker 2: it in wonder. She was almost like this Angel, Mike.
Speaker 3: I think that's a great way to describe her. And,
Speaker 3: you know, when you have– when you're around a person
Speaker 3: like that, when you feel a person before you actually
Speaker 3: see them in the room, you know, you can't help
Speaker 3: but stare. And it's a point– I mean, staring is rude.
Speaker 3: But it isn't when you're around a person like that
Speaker 3: because you can't take your eyes off them. And she
Speaker 3: was that way. I mean, she was magical, man.
Speaker 2: So anyway, I knew you would be. And it's a
Speaker 2: big story around the world. So anyway, we thank her
Speaker 2: for all the gifts. It's sad to be in a
Speaker 2: world without her. But on to the baseball.
Speaker 1: Mike, they won.
Speaker 2: And I know we got to talk about Adrian Hauser.
Speaker 2: That was really, really tough. But how do you sort
Speaker 2: of explain that? These lineups the last two days, Turner
Speaker 2: Hill at cleanup, Shea Whitcomb at third, Anthony Molina on
Speaker 2: the mound. Guys, Giants fans, you have to be a
Speaker 2: super hard-o to even know who these guys are. How
Speaker 2: do you explain them winning two in a row?
Speaker 3: Defense. The defense the last two days have been spectacular.
Speaker 3: I've always believed that the sure sign of a baseball
Speaker 3: player is their first step on defense and their first
Speaker 3: step on the base pass. And that was really in
Speaker 3: full splendor the last two nights, especially in the outfield.
Speaker 3: I mean, you had, you know, you had Turner Hill
Speaker 3: and you had Drew Gilbert and you had Grant McRae
Speaker 3: and they were amazing. Those are the three center fielders
Speaker 3: right there. I mean, but if you watched, you know,
Speaker 3: their first step to the ball, I mean, it was
Speaker 3: almost like when a ball was hit, they all moved.
Speaker 3: That first step was going at the same time as
Speaker 3: the ball. But it was hitting center field. I mean,
Speaker 3: even the corner outfielders were, you know, that first step
Speaker 3: was going to the ball. And it was just so
Speaker 3: choreographed and beautiful. I mean, to me, that's what makes
Speaker 3: a game. I would prefer to have a team behind
Speaker 3: me more so than an offense every time when I
Speaker 3: was pitching. Because they make plays and they take away
Speaker 3: 90-foot mistakes. And that's what the Giants all year long
Speaker 3: have done consistently is they give 90-foot mistakes. The last
Speaker 3: two nights have been the other way. Those are really,
Speaker 3: really fun games for me. We're learning Turner Hill's game
Speaker 3: right now. He's a guy that does a lot of
Speaker 3: little things. It reminds me of Mike Yastrzemski. When Yastrzemski
Speaker 3: first came up, it was fun to watch how fundamentally
Speaker 3: sound he was. Everything was perfect. He didn't have a
Speaker 3: great arm, but he had a great system. He had
Speaker 3: tremendous accuracy. He had a really quick Well, it's the
Speaker 3: same thing with Hill. I mean, he goes out and
Speaker 3: you watch his footwork. When he's playing left field, he's
Speaker 3: a left-handed outfielder. So when he goes over to the
Speaker 3: foul line, he catches the ball and he threes it
Speaker 3: before he gets the ball to throw to second base.
Speaker 3: And his footwork is so compact. You know, guys have footwork,
Speaker 3: but their strides are longer, and it takes them longer
Speaker 3: to get rid of the ball, not him. And that
Speaker 3: is something that, you know, he– I don't know. You're
Speaker 3: not born with that. That's something you have to figure out,
Speaker 3: and you have to be taught, and then you have
Speaker 3: to perfect. And he's got a bunch of things like
Speaker 3: that to his game. So if you looked at what
Speaker 3: we saw, you know, Koss was saying, you know, he's
Speaker 3: a really good shortstop. And, you know, we're really impressed
Speaker 3: with Shea Whitcomb. I mean, this is our first chance
Speaker 3: to see him. Here's a guy that plays three infield positions,
Speaker 3: the ground pick by Houston. And now I see what
Speaker 3: all the fuss is about. You know, he has a
Speaker 3: nice glove and a good arm. And, I mean, you
Speaker 3: could say the same thing about Furman. So you've got
Speaker 3: a lot of these young players that have gotten to
Speaker 3: the big league level, and there is a more complete–
Speaker 3: there's more of a complete sense of them as a player.
Speaker 3: They're not just offensive. They're not just defensive. You know,
Speaker 3: they have some game. And the defense the last two nights,
Speaker 3: you know, that really stood out to me.
Speaker 4: Mike, it was an interesting start for this Giants lineup
Speaker 4: yesterday with Brady Singer's decision to throw behind Drew Gilbert
Speaker 4: on his first pitch of the game, then comes back,
Speaker 4: bounces one off his Evo shield off his ankle on
Speaker 4: the second pitch of the game. Now, we all know
Speaker 4: that there was a dust-up in Cincinnati earlier this season.
Speaker 4: Were you surprised to see some of that bad blood
Speaker 4: still spill over this late in the season? And do
Speaker 4: you think some of that bad blood will continue in
Speaker 4: today's getaway game?
Speaker 3: That was really odd because what happened in Cincinnati was
Speaker 3: a big nothing. There was a couple of guys wolfing.
Speaker 3: And nobody was involved. I mean, I have no idea
Speaker 3: what that guy was thinking about. I really don't. And,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, he wasn't involved in the game.
Speaker 3: I mean, Drew Gilbert wasn't doing anything disrespectful in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: So I guess just for him to single out in
Speaker 3: game two, I mean, I don't understand it. And, you know,
Speaker 3: and plus, singers from Florida, those guys are usually pretty mellow.
Speaker 3: If you have somebody who's going to chirp like that
Speaker 3: and throw it, they're usually from North Carolina. But I
Speaker 3: don't know. I didn't understand it. Plus, he threw at
Speaker 3: him twice. And then when he hit him, I'm surprised
Speaker 3: that he didn't get tossed. He could have. I mean,
Speaker 3: in today's game, I mean, they have a zero tolerance
Speaker 3: for throwing at guys. Well, it was freaking obvious he
Speaker 3: was throwing at them. But, yeah, I thought that was weird.
Speaker 2: It was weird. And Terry Francona manages the Reds. He's
Speaker 2: old school. Yeah, that's kind of part of Tito's game.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he is old school, but that to me
Speaker 3: still was bizarre. You know, I mean, if you throw
Speaker 3: behind him by three feet, if you're going to hit
Speaker 3: a guy, you're going to throw behind him because the
Speaker 3: guy is naturally going to fall back away from the
Speaker 3: pitch because he thinks it's going to be in, and
Speaker 3: he'll fall into it. And he missed behind him, and
Speaker 3: then he goes back down and he hits him in
Speaker 3: the legs. So, I mean, at least he hit him
Speaker 3: below the belt. But still, I mean, it picked off
Speaker 3: a bunch of guys over in the Giants' dugout And
Speaker 3: I thought the biggest hit of the game when Singer
Speaker 3: put on a hit batsman, a walk, then another hit batsman,
Speaker 3: which I didn't think was intentional, it got to Drew Cavanaugh,
Speaker 3: and he comes up and he gets a base hit
Speaker 3: that puts in two runs. If they don't get a
Speaker 3: hit there, the momentum goes right into the Reds' dugout.
Speaker 3: If he gives you three guys for free to set
Speaker 3: the bases loaded and you have a no-out situation, you
Speaker 3: don't score anybody there, That momentum goes right in the Reds' dugout.
Speaker 3: So for Kavanaugh to get that hit and cash in
Speaker 3: two times in that first inning and give the Giants
Speaker 3: another lead, I thought that was the biggest hit in
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: It was great.
Speaker 2: In fact, just a little moment on Kavanaugh. Three knocks
Speaker 2: last night, and he's hitting. 253 on base of.
Speaker 7: 352.
Speaker 2: There's no power. He has no bombs. And his OPS
Speaker 2: is only.
Speaker 7: 616.
Speaker 2: But behind the dish and at the plate, I'm just
Speaker 2: kind of wondering, the other day we asked you about
Speaker 2: Pat Bailey. You said he's a great backup, and he is.
Speaker 2: He won two gold gloves and all that. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Is Drew Kavanaugh good enough to be the Giants' backup
Speaker 2: catcher in 2027? Well, I don't even know if he's
Speaker 2: a backup.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think if I'm looking at the situation now,
Speaker 3: it's a platoon. Kavanaugh would play against right-handed pitchers, and
Speaker 3: Zusak would play against lefties. I don't know how it's
Speaker 3: all going to unfold right now. We're still learning Kavanaugh's game,
Speaker 3: but I'll tell you one thing we found out about him.
Speaker 3: When you have a situation where you have a starting
Speaker 3: pitcher of the opposing team throw twice at your leadoff error,
Speaker 3: and he hits two guys in the first inning, everybody
Speaker 3: gets an attitude in the dugout. But your fighters, they
Speaker 3: emerge because they get a real good focus going. And
Speaker 3: you learned a lot about Kavanaugh when his guy got hit.
Speaker 3: He went right into fight mode. He was hoping there
Speaker 3: was an instant where something would break out and he
Speaker 3: would go out there and do a rat-a-tat on a
Speaker 3: couple of guys. Well, he took it out on Singer
Speaker 3: and the other way. He did it with his bat.
Speaker 3: And I just think, you know, that situation when you
Speaker 3: have an opposing hitter, opposing pitcher hit one of your guys,
Speaker 3: everybody elevates and everybody gets ticked off. But you find
Speaker 3: out who your fighters are as to how they perform
Speaker 3: in that game. They may not get in a fight,
Speaker 3: but they're going to have a good day with the bats.
Speaker 3: And Kavanaugh, in my mind, his stock went up yesterday,
Speaker 3: just the night he had after two guys got drilled.
Speaker 3: He had three hits in a walk. He had his
Speaker 3: best night or best day or best game ever in
Speaker 3: his young big league career. So we're still learning about him.
Speaker 4: Mike, last question for me on the two pitchers that
Speaker 4: both left the game early the last couple of days.
Speaker 4: Carson Wisenhunt, we got the report that he does have
Speaker 4: a torn UCL. So he'd be heading towards Tommy John surgery.
Speaker 4: And then yesterday, Adrian Hauser leaves the game with an
Speaker 4: elbow injury as well. Mike, we know that this is
Speaker 4: a part of the game for pitchers, but your thoughts
Speaker 4: on both of those guys leaving the game early and
Speaker 4: how that affects the Giants' rotation moving forward?
Speaker 3: It's just horrible. I mean, you rarely see two guys
Speaker 3: go out back-to-back and go out early in a game.
Speaker 3: And I just tip my cap to the bullpen. I mean,
Speaker 3: they really rallied the last two days. But we're waiting
Speaker 3: for the MRI return on Hauser, and hopefully it's not
Speaker 3: another Tommy John that has to be thrown his way.
Speaker 3: You don't trust, you know, twinges and elbows this late
Speaker 3: in the season. I mean, this is August. And, you know,
Speaker 3: guys have been throwing a long time. And you see
Speaker 3: arms going down, guys breaking down all around the league.
Speaker 3: So it is the era of the game. You know,
Speaker 3: when I pitch, you had, you know, guys that had three,
Speaker 3: four pitches. And a lot of them didn't even have change-ups.
Speaker 3: The fact that these guys are now throwing five, six,
Speaker 3: seven types of movements seven different types of pitches, it
Speaker 3: stresses out the arm. And I think they're more subjected
Speaker 3: to Tommy John and arm injuries now more than ever
Speaker 3: in the history of the game simply because they're throwing
Speaker 3: more types of pitches, especially pitches like splits and change-ups,
Speaker 3: which accelerate the arm speed. Those pitches, when you throw
Speaker 3: them as a pitcher, your arm speed is actually faster
Speaker 3: than that of a fastball. And the negative side of
Speaker 3: the throwing motion, the side of your motion that stops
Speaker 3: your arm after you throw it, it gets overloaded. And
Speaker 3: you see guys break down on the shoulder and the
Speaker 3: elbow all the time. So it's just a matter of
Speaker 3: the way that the game has evolved. It has evolved
Speaker 3: into where guys are, are now throwing many more movements,
Speaker 3: and it's definitely stressing out their arms. But to see
Speaker 3: it back-to-back days is really unusual.
Speaker 2: Yeah, really unusual. And so all good wishes to Landon
Speaker 2: Roop today as he takes the hill, trying to finish
Speaker 2: off this sweep, give the Giants their first sweep of
Speaker 2: the season against lefty Nick Lodolo of the Reds, former
Speaker 2: first-round pick back in 2019. Mike, last one for me
Speaker 2: is the guy who came in, to pitch after Hauser
Speaker 2: went down Anthony Molina. Now he was in the Tyler
Speaker 2: Malley trade. He was not a heralded prospect at all.
Speaker 2: His numbers were not awesome. I think giants fans saw
Speaker 2: him as maybe like a bulk middle inning guy or
Speaker 2: at best he's 24. He's young and man, did he
Speaker 2: give up some hard contact early? The reds were not
Speaker 2: fooled by him in the first couple innings. Great catches
Speaker 2: all over the place from Drew Gilbert to Turner Hill,
Speaker 2: but anything that you saw from this guy that the
Speaker 2: giants can take and believe in, Well.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a little vulnerable that first inning or
Speaker 3: so because, you know, he's putting on the Giants uniform
Speaker 3: for the first time. And you can imagine the adrenaline
Speaker 3: that's running through him. So he's a little geeked up.
Speaker 3: But he was throwing strikes. I mean, to me, that's
Speaker 3: the take. Adam Balls are good fortune, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of guys when they get that
Speaker 3: adrenaline going through their arm, they can't throw strikes or
Speaker 3: they lose pitches. He didn't. They got hit hard. They
Speaker 3: got caught. But after the adrenaline kind of wore down,
Speaker 3: I mean, he really settled in. And a nice blend
Speaker 3: of two types of movement with a fastball, good changeup.
Speaker 3: He was throwing all his pitches and all the counts
Speaker 3: and not afraid. So, I mean, there's a guy– you
Speaker 3: have to have bulk inning guys in the pen. You
Speaker 3: have to. A guy who can go through the lineup
Speaker 3: one time when a starter goes out early, as we've
Speaker 3: seen the last two nights. And if there's a situation
Speaker 3: where a starter goes down or warms up, can't go, Well,
Speaker 3: you have to have somebody who can go in there
Speaker 3: and be comfortable in a start where you've been given
Speaker 3: five minutes notice to. So I like what I've seen
Speaker 3: from this guy. He's 24 years old. So, you know,
Speaker 3: he's got some dirt under his fingernails. He's been around
Speaker 3: a little bit. And it showed last night the way
Speaker 3: he was able to compose himself. So he really made
Speaker 3: a nice name for himself very quickly in last night's game.
Speaker 2: Listen, Giants need bullpen arms, and if this guy can
Speaker 2: join the fray, we'll see over the next month. Last
Speaker 2: one is, did you see Pat Murphy last night, the
Speaker 2: Brewers manager, benching this kid Cooper Pratt for not running
Speaker 2: out of pop-up? Did you see that?
Speaker 3: No, I just read about it this morning, and Pratt's
Speaker 3: a shortstop, first-round pick, and we saw him, we were
Speaker 3: impressed with him, and blah, blah, blah. Young. Not hustling?
Speaker 3: Sit your butt down. And guess what? He shouldn't play today.
Speaker 3: It should be a one-and-a-half-game penalty, because there's no... excuse
Speaker 3: for that and I love the fact that he taught
Speaker 3: this lesson to this young player because you know what
Speaker 3: everybody in that clubhouse has picked off that this kid
Speaker 3: didn't do it either and you know you'll get veterans
Speaker 3: come up to a rookie and tell them that's not
Speaker 3: something that we do you need to kick it in
Speaker 3: another gear but it doesn't have the same impact as
Speaker 3: to when a manager sits you down or takes you
Speaker 3: out of a game in the middle of a game
Speaker 3: and embarrasses you not only in front of your teammates
Speaker 3: but in front of everybody in that ballpark So that's
Speaker 3: a lesson, hopefully, that he learns and we never see
Speaker 3: from him again. And unfortunately, some guys have to learn
Speaker 3: that way. It doesn't always happen to rookies. You see
Speaker 3: it happen with veterans, too. I think any time you
Speaker 3: see it, it should be called and a guy should
Speaker 3: have to come out of the game. There's no tolerance
Speaker 3: for that in my book.
Speaker 2: Mike, the Pat Murphy quotes are great. He talks about
Speaker 2: how he didn't get a bunt down earlier in the game,
Speaker 2: and he should have bunted a strike, and that ticked
Speaker 2: off Murphy. And then the pop-up where he didn't run
Speaker 2: it out. It's a long quote, but he says you've
Speaker 2: got to be locked in if you're going to play
Speaker 2: at this level. So hopefully it's a good learning experience.
Speaker 2: He says, I love the kid, and I believe in
Speaker 2: the kid. He said, but, and he's a great defender,
Speaker 2: but this is not tolerated by anybody. And it sends
Speaker 2: a message to everybody else too. You better run. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, this is, I am surprised that today's day
Speaker 2: and age, this happens. And I, to be honest, I'm okay.
Speaker 2: If Tony V started talking like this, Mike.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, he's backed it up already. He's just,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a big part of every manager in
Speaker 3: the big leagues, Tony, no exception. And you can't do it.
Speaker 3: I think it may, I think it's a little more
Speaker 3: impactful when you do it with a veteran and Because
Speaker 3: if you do it to one of your big core guys,
Speaker 3: then the rookies take notice of that. Well, I have
Speaker 3: to run out. But whatever the situation presents itself, I
Speaker 3: think it should be handled the same way.
Speaker 2: Good stuff, Mike. Go put on your Dolly Parton. You
Speaker 2: have a day game today. Landon Roop, Giants going for
Speaker 2: the sweep, and enjoy the heck out of it. We'll
Speaker 2: talk to you Friday.
Speaker 3: Thanks, Mike.
Speaker 2: Mike Kruko, every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. I just saw
Speaker 2: that Pat Murphy stuff. His quotes were great. I was
Speaker 2: just checking it out right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To
Speaker 2: be honest, Tony could have done that with Willie Adamas.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, there have been some people who have complained
Speaker 4: about Rafael Devers not running hard out of the box.
Speaker 2: There was just a ball that just dropped the other week. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's funny you say that about Devers. It's true. There
Speaker 2: are other times, though. He's busting ass out there. It
Speaker 2: surprises you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a pretty good base runner when he needs
Speaker 4: to be. Like, if he needs to get first to
Speaker 4: third in a certain situation, he'll hustle, but he's not
Speaker 4: going to hustle every single time out of the box.
Speaker 2: So we go in George Orwell. All animals are equal.
Speaker 2: Some animals are more equal than other animals.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you hit 30 home runs, you're allowed to
Speaker 4: walk out of the box every once in a while.
Speaker 2: Only 28, dude, only 28. Yeah, he's on pace, he's
Speaker 2: on pace. All right, all right. Hey, 49ers are the
Speaker 2: big hit, and I know we're going longer with Mike
Speaker 2: these days. We're squeezing everything we can out of Mike,
Speaker 2: and you guys understand why, right? So we appreciate everybody
Speaker 2: tuning in for that. We got some football, though, coming
Speaker 2: your way. Todd Husek at 8.50, Larry Kruger at 9.30,
Speaker 2: and some comments. Kyle Shanahan did not duck. The Jed
Speaker 2: York questions next on Esports Later.
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Speaker 2: Hey, the big hit takes on a different vibe today.
Speaker 2: Usually we have our big hit. This is the big
Speaker 2: hit with all your audio production. But today's a special day.
Speaker 2: We've been playing Dolly rejoins most all morning long. And Marcus,
Speaker 2: you remember during COVID?
Speaker 3: Yeah. Remember this? Oh, yes, I do.
Speaker 2: Let me hear a story from your version because you're
Speaker 2: a young man. You were six years younger back then.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was.
Speaker 2: I was a lot younger.
Speaker 4: Now, Murph, I've been waiting for this song all morning long.
Speaker 4: Going back to, I believe, what might have been my
Speaker 4: first ever pop culture showdown.
Speaker 2: It was Hums and Bums. Was it Hums and Bums? Oh,
Speaker 2: it was the passing of Kenny Rogers. That's what it was.
Speaker 2: We had COVID. We had to do Hums and Bums.
Speaker 2: There's no sports. How do you find three humbabies and
Speaker 2: three bumbabies? Like Korean baseball?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And Kenny Rogers sadly passed away right at the start
Speaker 2: of COVID. And I had the humbabies that week and
Speaker 2: I was like, well... I'm going to make the music
Speaker 2: of Kenny Rogers a home baby. And so we made
Speaker 2: it that, and I played this and you had never.
Speaker 4: No, that was my first time hearing this track and Murph.
Speaker 4: I've no, I know that we've done a good job
Speaker 4: of putting each other on game when it comes to
Speaker 4: our own music selection, Larry June.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 4: I mean, we can talk to the Russell, Larry June,
Speaker 4: but getting deep into the Kenny Rogers, Dolly Parton, this
Speaker 4: immediately got added to my playlist. This is something I'll
Speaker 4: throw on when I'm rolling one up or I'm hanging
Speaker 4: out on the boat. Like to me, this is, maybe
Speaker 4: not even, maybe this is my favorite dolly song.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, we've had some fun all morning and man,
Speaker 2: it's sad. I tell you, and I sent this out
Speaker 2: on Twitter. I said, Twitter is the, maybe the most
Speaker 2: venomous place I've ever encountered in my life. Like it
Speaker 2: is so angry. Marcus taught me years ago. He taught
Speaker 2: the old guy a lesson. Comments suck. Yes, they can't
Speaker 2: go down that road. You can put out the most
Speaker 2: positive thing in the world and people like you suck.
Speaker 2: You suck. That sucks. This sucks. That sucks. This sucks.
Speaker 2: I went down a rabbit hole last night of Dolly Parton.
Speaker 2: I can't I have yet to find anything venomous or
Speaker 2: negative about Dolly Parton. And she's made so many people
Speaker 2: feel so good in her music, hit people on so
Speaker 2: many different levels and her acting and her humanitarian acts
Speaker 2: and just her. Something as simple as her talk. Go
Speaker 2: look at her little song she wrote for Johnny Carson
Speaker 2: when she said, I didn't make it until I got
Speaker 2: it on the Johnny Carson show. She wrote this little diddy.
Speaker 2: Everything she did makes you smile. And the proof was
Speaker 2: in the pudding. Everybody has a story about her just
Speaker 2: doing a solid for somebody here, a solid for somebody there.
Speaker 2: As one of the guys just said, she was a
Speaker 2: real one. She was a real one.
Speaker 4: She was bigger than just a pop culture icon. She's
Speaker 4: an American icon.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So there you go. That's our big hit intro. But
Speaker 2: we got to get into the 49ers. As I tell you,
Speaker 2: I listen to KMBR AM and KMBR FM San Francisco,
Speaker 2: the sports leader, a cumulus media station. And yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I was pretty impressed by Kyle Shanahan yesterday by going
Speaker 2: right into the Jed York questions. Marcus, you said it
Speaker 2: an hour ago and you said it really well, buddy.
Speaker 2: The Giants had this situation in June. Well, you didn't say.
Speaker 2: You just said, oh, not football questions only, which was good.
Speaker 2: But Marcus pointed out that the Giants had this situation
Speaker 2: in June with the pride thing. Sorry to rip open
Speaker 2: this wound for everybody, but they ran away from it.
Speaker 2: And It did not play well, obviously. It did not
Speaker 2: play well at all. No, I think they actually made
Speaker 2: it worse with the way they handled it. So Jed
Speaker 2: getting popped for a prostitution charge and all the embarrassment
Speaker 2: that comes with it, the fact that he's living out
Speaker 2: in Ohio now, how will this affect his decision? Will
Speaker 2: he face any punishment from the NFL? All these things
Speaker 2: that go on for the conduct policy. And they finally
Speaker 2: asked Kyle, it's funny how the reporters are. And I
Speaker 2: get it. I've been that reporter where you're like, you're
Speaker 2: not going to open with Jed. They opened by asking
Speaker 2: about left guard. How's the Carver Willis situation looking? I
Speaker 2: need an update on Connor Colby. And finally, after a few,
Speaker 2: then there was a Christian Kirk, and then there was
Speaker 2: Cut Day coming up. And finally, Cut D, he was asked,
Speaker 2: have you talked to Jed since the arrest? And he
Speaker 2: could have said, listen, guys, I'm not going to go there. Instead,
Speaker 2: he said this.
Speaker 7: Obviously, the news yesterday morning about Jed Have you had
Speaker 7: an opportunity to talk to him or just kind of
Speaker 7: what's your view and where things are with the organization
Speaker 7: moving forward?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I got to talk to Jed the last two
Speaker 9: days and today. Obviously, it's a very tough situation. Views
Speaker 9: for the organization going forward is the same as usual.
Speaker 9: I mean, there won't be any difference in that. But
Speaker 9: I know it's extremely fresh. I think it's a very,
Speaker 9: very personal situation. I got a lot of respect for Jed.
Speaker 3: I got a lot of.
Speaker 9: Respect for Danielle. Their family does mean a lot to me.
Speaker 9: So I'm like, With it being this personal, I'm trying
Speaker 9: as hard as I can to keep.
Speaker 3: It that way.
Speaker 2: So I thought it's all a good answer and the
Speaker 2: respect he has for Jed and Danielle. He mentioned Danielle,
Speaker 2: his wife, whom he's divorcing, which was really nice. And listen,
Speaker 2: the York family hired Kyle Shanahan, man. They gave him
Speaker 2: this opportunity to live out his dream. They've kept him
Speaker 2: there for nine years and for the foreseeable future, too.
Speaker 2: So he said, it's very, very personal. It's very, very fresh.
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to keep it personal, which I thought
Speaker 2: was a very fair Answer, there's a follow-up about Jed.
Speaker 2: How does this affect him being around the team? Cut E, Jacob.
Speaker 7: Practically, is it possible that Jed will be away from
Speaker 7: the team for a while or just not.
Speaker 3: As much as a presence?
Speaker 9: I mean, it's been like that this summer anyways, with
Speaker 9: him being out in Ohio and things like that. So
Speaker 9: there'd be no difference right now. He hasn't been here
Speaker 9: for training camp.
Speaker 2: How about that? So that was something we talked about yesterday.
Speaker 2: I had heard that he was moving to Ohio, mostly
Speaker 2: for tax purposes, but also he's getting divorced and he's
Speaker 2: no longer with his wife. And the TMZ report had
Speaker 2: more details that he's now living in a house in Boardman, Ohio,
Speaker 2: owned by his parents. That's where he departed from for
Speaker 2: this ill-fated trip to Wheat Hill Mobile Park. And so
Speaker 2: he has not been around the team.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: And I know that there have been a lot of
Speaker 4: people asking questions about how that affects his role overall
Speaker 4: with the team. But to your point, his role has
Speaker 4: been reduced since Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch took over.
Speaker 4: Like this is not the same style of ownership that
Speaker 4: Jed was implementing when he was firing Jim Harbaugh. Like, no,
Speaker 4: he went down that row, obviously had the terrible years
Speaker 4: with Jim Tomsula and Chip Kelly. But once they brought
Speaker 4: in John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan, they're the ones making
Speaker 4: the football decisions.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Jed's still going to give the thumbs up and sign
Speaker 4: off on all of these moves and decisions. But to me,
Speaker 4: this doesn't really make a huge impact on, whether or
Speaker 4: not Jed's in Santa Clara or Ohio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I got to say, I, you know, listen,
Speaker 2: we had the celebrated interview in 2014 where he fired Harbaugh.
Speaker 2: He came on, and I questioned him all this stuff
Speaker 2: about firing Harbaugh, and it didn't go well, and he
Speaker 2: hasn't been on the show since. He hasn't been on
Speaker 2: KMBR since. I've said this on a number of times
Speaker 2: through the past several years. I think I even jock
Speaker 2: blogged about it. He deserves a lot of credit for
Speaker 2: changing and maturing as an owner. He really has stepped
Speaker 2: aside and let the football guys make the football decisions.
Speaker 2: Not everybody does it. Shout out Jerry Jones. Shout out
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: So next one up is they continue to ask again,
Speaker 2: will this affect the way the team is run? Cut
Speaker 2: F here. Does that work as decisions get made?
Speaker 7: Up?
Speaker 2: Maybe there hasn't been one of those.
Speaker 3: Does it go to somebody else? Is it still got
Speaker 3: to be Jed?
Speaker 9: No, it's the same as always. I mean, Jed has
Speaker 9: been as good as it gets since I've been here
Speaker 9: on letting the football people make football decisions. I mean,
Speaker 9: Jed always wants to be informed and a part of things,
Speaker 9: but Jed has been– exactly what he said he would
Speaker 9: be and letting us make those decisions. And he always
Speaker 9: wants to know about them and stuff. And whether he's
Speaker 9: here in the building or a text away or on
Speaker 9: a phone call, that doesn't change anything.
Speaker 2: So that's to the point. He's saying, yeah, listen, he
Speaker 2: wants to know what's going on, but he lets John
Speaker 2: Lynch and Kyle Shanahan and the personnel office say, hey,
Speaker 2: let's go sign Osa Odigizuar. Let's go sign Mike Evans.
Speaker 2: Let's go sign Christian Kirk. And I'm guessing moving forward
Speaker 2: that Jed is still going to be in the loop.
Speaker 2: I just don't know if we're going to see him publicly,
Speaker 2: if we're going to see him show and face week
Speaker 2: one down in Australia. Yeah, I mean, the nuclear scenario
Speaker 2: that people throw out, does this force a sale of
Speaker 2: the team? Probably not. I mean, it's not like the guy, listen,
Speaker 2: as bad as it was, it's a misdemeanor. It's not
Speaker 2: a felony. It's not, you know. He didn't get caught
Speaker 2: doing stuff. Like poor Eddie, unfortunately, I hate to drag
Speaker 2: it out. You know, he committed a federal crime. And
Speaker 2: that was a tough deal. And the league had to
Speaker 2: step in and strip the team from Eddie. And that
Speaker 2: was a big deal. The league's not going to strip
Speaker 2: the team from Jed over this. It's an embarrassment is
Speaker 2: what it is. It's a misdemeanor. It's humiliating for sure.
Speaker 2: but people thinking that's going to force a sale of
Speaker 2: the team. I think that's a little step too far.
Speaker 2: Is it a distraction though? You had Kyle's accident, July 14th,
Speaker 2: doesn't get reported until July 25th. And now this, these
Speaker 2: things just tend to kind of swirl around a team,
Speaker 2: but Kyle says, no, dude, we're just trying to win
Speaker 2: football games. Cut H.
Speaker 7: Between your accident and the whole story with Jed, is
Speaker 7: there any impact you think on the football and on
Speaker 7: the team in any way?
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't get how my story has an
Speaker 9: impact on the team.
Speaker 2: I mean, Some people say these are distractions.
Speaker 3: In any way, does it impact the football in any way? No.
Speaker 9: Just questions you've got to answer.
Speaker 2: Just questions you've got to answer. He went on and
Speaker 2: he talked about that. You expanded on that quote where
Speaker 2: he said, it's like anybody has to answer a question
Speaker 2: from a non-football person, right? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: He talked about how players have to answer questions from
Speaker 4: media members quoting PFF and their football grades from non-football people.
Speaker 4: He talked about how Brock Purdy, if he throws an interception,
Speaker 4: has to address the media. Hell, we've had guys had
Speaker 4: to sit there and answer questions about guys like Brandon
Speaker 4: Ayuk and off-field issues that they don't want to deal with.
Speaker 4: But that's part of the job. I mean, we have
Speaker 4: a bad segment. Sometimes we have to address it as well.
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, there are times where there are things
Speaker 4: that you don't want to talk about. But it's part
Speaker 4: of the job. And still, at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: your job is to perform on the field. And if
Speaker 4: you perform well enough, people are going to talk about
Speaker 4: more of the on-field issues and the things going on
Speaker 4: instead of the off-field issues and the storylines that make
Speaker 4: headlines on TMZ.
Speaker 2: What do you mean bad segment? I've never heard of it.
Speaker 3: Allegedly. Blown segment.
Speaker 2: Finally, Shanahan, another question, follow-up. Is it a distraction to
Speaker 2: the team?
Speaker 7: Cut him.
Speaker 9: My view is, as the coach, does it have an
Speaker 9: effect on us as a team? And that's what I
Speaker 9: continue to answer on. From a football standpoint, it has
Speaker 9: no effect on us. I mean, as far as what
Speaker 9: we do day to day, what we talk about, it
Speaker 9: hasn't been mentioned in a meeting today. It doesn't have
Speaker 9: to do with what happens on the field. Everything outside
Speaker 9: of there, I think you guys can judge that better
Speaker 9: than me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I gave Kyle a lot of credit. He
Speaker 2: stood there, answered all the questions. And as we said,
Speaker 2: that's the best way to do it. Because I think
Speaker 2: pretty much after this, we may not be talking about this.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're going to play the Raiders tomorrow night,
Speaker 2: and then we're going to get ready for the trip
Speaker 2: to Australia, which is next Wednesday, right? And so as
Speaker 2: long as nothing else happens with Jed or if the
Speaker 2: league just finds him or something like that, then it
Speaker 2: will go away.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Me and less, you know, yeah. The divorce proceedings take
Speaker 2: a turn.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know how this story is going to continue
Speaker 4: to play out, but me personally, like I'm more concerned
Speaker 4: about like Mike Evans leaving practice yesterday with a groin
Speaker 4: injury or Nick Bosa being healthy and getting on the
Speaker 4: field or rumors about a potential hold in with Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4: Like those are the things that actually are going to
Speaker 4: impact the 49er season in the record.
Speaker 2: Jed York's not.
Speaker 4: Calling up plays or dialing up schemes to confuse Matthew Stafford. Like, yes,
Speaker 4: this is a bit of a distraction with the media
Speaker 4: outside of football, but But at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: you still got to make plays on the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So here we go, guys. There you go. I mean,
Speaker 2: the Kyle addressed it and he said it as best
Speaker 2: he can. I still do believe given my vast experience
Speaker 2: in this life, there is a general energy and a
Speaker 2: static that will drag down. a team, they're going to
Speaker 2: have to overcome it. Doesn't mean they can't overcome it.
Speaker 2: They can overcome it, but there is, it's better if
Speaker 2: everybody's healthy and your owner doesn't get popped for prostitution
Speaker 2: and your head coach didn't get into a car accident.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And if you don't practice next to a substation, very good. Well,
Speaker 2: to those football questions, he did address some of those
Speaker 2: to George Kittle, Nick Bosa. He talked about Dajon Stribling.
Speaker 2: So more Kyle next on the sports leader.