1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Dirty Work on a Thursday afternoon. Adam Copeland Deep hop 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: with you. Sam Amy covers the NBA for the Athletic. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: He joins us every week here on Dirty Work. He 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: joins us on the UMMA guest Line, ani our video 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: scream on YouTube and twitch dot Tv, Slash the sports 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: Leader and the sports Leader app Sam, what's going on? 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: Man's good, guys, good to see you. 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: Good to see you now in your mind as a 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: as a distinguished journalist, any correlation to Easter and Steph's 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: return on Sunday? 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 3: Your thoughts take the topic. All right, we'll move on. 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: We'll move on. 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 4: We'll wait for Jade and I's comments. 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: As Derek said, Yeah, yeah. 15 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 4: Moving We'll move on. Anyway you did, You did. 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Talk about his return a Sunday against Houston. 17 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 4: That's the expectation. I said to Derek. 18 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it was a like an unreasonable thing 19 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: or way that the Warriors have gone about things in 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: the last few weeks. Knowing you're kind of set into 21 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: there at the ten seed, get some rest for the 22 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: guys that need it, get some other guys out there, 23 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: and then see what you can do when stuff comes back. 24 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts about his return because we 25 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: talked about the other situations. 26 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 4: Around the league with guys being sat out. 27 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I gave my two cents, 28 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 2: and I kind of wonder you guys are talking about 29 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 2: this all day long. I wonder how the fan base 30 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 2: feels and what the room looks like as far as 31 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: what side of the fence people are on, because when 32 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: you talk about the idea of sitting Steph, you know, 33 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: as somebody who's covered his whole career and enjoys w 34 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: washing them play and knows kind of how he's wired 35 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: to some extent, I never thought that was in the 36 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: cards that he would willfully sit if he was ready 37 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: to go. 38 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: It's a little bit like Gianness in Milwaukee. 39 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: Sorry about the background those guys, and. 40 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 3: So I didn't see if Steph could play. STEP's gonna 41 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: play now. 42 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: The cop that people bring up a lot, and that 43 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: came up last night with Steve Kerr before the game. 44 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: Was Dallas a few years ago. 45 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: You know, tanks down the stretch as a chance to 46 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: get to the play in doesn't attempt to do that. 47 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: They get Derek Lively as a result, like an actual, 48 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: you know, good player. Part of their program, and then 49 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: they were in the finals the following year, and so 50 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 2: people kind of said, hey, look it worked, and Steve 51 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: just kind of shook his head and said, no, that's 52 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: not what we're about. So I'm great with the way 53 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: they've handled it. I know that Listen, nobody thinks these 54 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: guys can you know, by my first round series, let 55 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: alone get in through the playing route. 56 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: We'll see. 57 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: But when the guys is great as Steph is, and 58 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: you just you don't keep him off the court if 59 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: he's ready to go. 60 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 5: Well, I know sim that you wrote today that you 61 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 5: you know that the idea that Steph Curry would sit 62 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 5: for the rest of the year is silly because of 63 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 5: what he's done in the past and what the Warriors 64 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 5: expectations are. 65 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: But to the best of your knowledge. 66 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 5: Is that something that was talked about behind closed doors 67 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 5: with Joe Lakeup and Steve Kurr and Mike Dunlevy when 68 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 5: the ceiling really is just a play and win. 69 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't know the extent of the discussions that you know, 70 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: the vibe you get because the first thing people cite 71 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: is how Steph felt about it, and so it feels 72 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: like one. 73 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: Of those that you know, you. Uh, you know, I 74 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: don't know. 75 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: If you think you guys are married, if you are 76 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 2: like if if you have ideas and then you start 77 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: running by the wife and she said, nope, okay, never mind. 78 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's the. 79 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: Sense that I got, is if Steph wasn't looking to 80 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 2: do this. If Steve I think is wired the same way. 81 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: You know, he actually told a story. I'll give the 82 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: short version. I don't know if you guys saw his 83 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: clip about his playing days in Orlando and uh, the 84 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: playoffs because of a points difference, the tiebreakers went all 85 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: the way down to points. 86 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: And his point was that we never paid attention to 87 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: where these tiebreakers were. 88 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: We just competed and we didn't try to mess with 89 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: the basketball guys, and they ended up getting Tenny Hardaway 90 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: in the process. And so you didn't try to, you know, 91 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: play with the pieces on the chessboard, so to speak, 92 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: when it comes to competition, and. 93 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: It worked out. Now, that's kind of the inverse of 94 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: the Dallas story. 95 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,559 Speaker 2: You know, so much of it as luck and circumstance, 96 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: and I think the Warriors are very comfortable rolling that ice. 97 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: Here. 98 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: It's talking to Sam Man. 99 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: It covers the NBA for the athletic What do you 100 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: expect I mean, there's an expectation now. I think that 101 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: Steve curR is going to return next year, which I 102 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: don't think is a shock or anything. But what would 103 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: you expect his next deal to look like? 104 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 4: And is it? Do you think it's strictly tied to 105 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 4: Steph Curry? 106 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 2: I think it's largely tied to Steph Curry. You know, 107 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: unless I miss something, I still do I feel like 108 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: he's leading that way. 109 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: Is the buzz leaning that way? Certainly? I don't know 110 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: that anything's for sure. 111 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: It does feel like, you know, for one, you can 112 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: already see the carryover in terms of their planning and 113 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 2: their priorities right now in connection with next season with Steve. 114 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: You know, I think out to your point, Steve feeling 115 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: very much like a part of it. Like I think 116 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: that the layers and to tie it into the Steph situation, 117 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: the layers to Steph playing. They want to see Steph 118 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: with porzingis do we want porzingis back? You're trying to 119 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: get ready for not only life with the guys that 120 00:04:58,600 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: you have and the ones who are going to come 121 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: back capture being hurt, but and this is the point 122 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: that that my buddy's Tim Kawakami and Marcus Thompson made 123 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: on their pots is that you also are trying to 124 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: signal to everybody around the league and some of the 125 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: best players who might be thinking about coming to the Warriors, 126 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: maybe even pushing for. 127 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: A trade, that that Steph is alive. 128 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: And well to go with our Eastern reference here and 129 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: uh and and you might want to join forces with him. 130 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: Uh. No indication that this, you know, this Steve. 131 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: Is is not part of the equation as far as 132 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 2: the deal, I mean, it's hardest to say. I mean, 133 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: he's deserving of, you know, being the highest paid guy 134 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: in the league. I mean, to put it, frankly, in 135 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: four titles gets you that the dynasty gets you that 136 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: it's him and Eric Foalsterra, you know, and and the 137 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: list kind of stops there. To be honest with you, 138 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: these days, I mean, Joe Mizula is as a young 139 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: guy who's making his way through the ranks, you know. 140 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 3: Obviously Greg Popovich is no longer doing it. 141 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: So uh, it's if that is what ends up happening, 142 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: I think, you know, Joe Lake is going to have 143 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: to kind of another pretty healthy check. 144 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: I'm wondering, like when we start thinking about I mean, 145 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: it's hard to think about life beyond Steph Curry or 146 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: what you know his next deal looks like, or how 147 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: long you s hear what he continues to do and 148 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: what they do to move forward. But I do start 149 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: to think about, you know, life beyond Steve Kerr, and 150 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: I wonder and I'm interested to get your opinion on this. 151 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: Like when Bob Myers left, obviously Mike Dunleavy was the 152 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: assistant GM. It was a transition that I think was 153 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: in Hou's easy to do a guy that was respected. 154 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: I imagine he got Bob Myer's blessing and endorsement to 155 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: do that. How do you think they'll go about whatever 156 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: The next search is? Do you think Steve Kerr is 157 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: involved in that because I know the health of the 158 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: organization is important to him, or do you think that's 159 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: something where Joe again says I did this once already 160 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: with Mark Jackson, and I found Steve Kerr. 161 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do this again. 162 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: I like the question. 163 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: I don't know the answer because I think Joe has 164 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: the umballs respect for Steve. But to your point about 165 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: the Bob Myers cop You know, we could already kind 166 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: of see that coming at this point in the Bob 167 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: Myers experience, and that person doesn't really exist. 168 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: You know, You've got Ron. 169 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: Adams is a lifer with Steve, but certainly not at 170 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: a stage where he's looking to take it on. Bruce 171 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: Fraser is a trusted, confident on the valued assistant coach 172 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: doesn't appear to be on that track. 173 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: You know, You've got. 174 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: Jerry Stackhouse and qualified assistance. You know, christ de Marco 175 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: obviously took the job in New York and the w 176 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: n b A. So all these different folks that that are, 177 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: you know, part of the program. 178 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: Nobody really kind of deemed the next guy. 179 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: So I'd probably go towards the learner, which is that 180 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: when that day comes, I can see Joe just doing 181 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: it himself and figuring out who he wants to lead 182 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: the franchise. I'll also add that, so my point about 183 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: the contract with Steve potentially, you know, that's just in 184 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: evacuum my opinion of. 185 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: What Steve is worth. 186 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: Sure I do, I do wonder, like you know, it's 187 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: It's one of the things about the NBA these days, See, 188 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: I don't think people realize I don't know Joe's checkbook, 189 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: you know, backwards and forwards, but operating toss matter to 190 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: these owners a lot more than I think fans really realize. 191 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: And so to that point, you know, I don't know 192 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: if Joe is going to be. 193 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: Of the mood to have CV, you know, potentially the 194 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: highest paid coach in the NBA, especially if it's. 195 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: A rebuilding time, if they're trying to find their way. 196 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: You know, you know that that kind of discussion, that 197 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: negotiation potentially could get tricky. 198 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 5: Talking to Sam Amict on the UMA guest line, I 199 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 5: know you were in Chase Center last night. So how 200 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 5: did Steph Curry look in his pregame workout as he 201 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 5: gets ready for his first game in twenty seven games 202 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 5: on Sunday? 203 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: Now? He looked fine. He looked like Steph. 204 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: He was, you know, one legged shots and finding different 205 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: spots on the floor. And the bigger thing, guys, that 206 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: kind of compelled me. 207 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: To write what I wrote and include some of the. 208 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: Detail was that it just never gets old watching It 209 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: wasn't really about watching steph pregame routine. It's watching the 210 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: people watching Steph's pregame routine. And that energy was back 211 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: you know, I happened to be out there, didn't know 212 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: he was coming out, and Michael Ravina from Wayers PR 213 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: was on the baseline, you know, having to play kind 214 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: of the baseline cops, so to speak, and make sure 215 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: everybody's in the right spot. And Michael was joking that 216 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: it's been a minute since he had to actually direct 217 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: traffic in that part of the court. And for two months, 218 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: you know, there was nobody out there pre game. Nobody 219 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: wanted to watch all the other guys do their pregame 220 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: warm up. As Steph continued, I actually bailed before he 221 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: was done. I started heading to the back and it 222 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: was pretty funny. Some of the beat writers suddenly had 223 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: caught word that Steph was on the court, and I 224 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: mean they're literally jogging out to see what became a 225 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: news event. It was a development that Steph was doing this, 226 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: but it was also you know, it was a moment. 227 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: It was the type of energy. 228 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: That he's created for his entire time or most of 229 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: the time with the Warriors, and that's where I think 230 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: the discussion about him competing some of the nuanced lives, 231 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: right is that even if they end up, you know, 232 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: flaming out of the playing game like these These fans 233 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: love the guy, who want to see him on the court, 234 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: and he's got an incredibly unique ability to entertain and 235 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: impact people when he's out there. 236 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sat manic we do with him each and 237 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: every week here on the UMA guest line, the Warriors 238 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: and the Calves tonight, right, and then we get the 239 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: Rockets on Sunday for the return of Steph Curry. So 240 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: this Kawhi Leonard thing that's out there now, the Warriors 241 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: were close to a Kawhi deal. They're alway so close. 242 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: Uh and then uh and then the Clippers pulled out 243 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: around fred deadline time. 244 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 4: What do you know about this? What could I mean? 245 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 4: How real was this? 246 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: And is it a possibility for the future. I've got 247 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: to follow up on that too, But just how legit 248 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: is this? 249 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 2: I admittedly I need to find out and my curier, 250 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: we've officially passed the threshold of like I thought, it 251 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: was interesting and the kind of the little tidbit and 252 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: the subplot came and went in my mind before. But 253 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: once you hear all the Clippers pulled out, that's interesting. 254 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: People started going, well, why would they do that? As 255 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: they get investigated you know, for salary cap circunvention, you know, 256 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: and the mechanics of that are where my curiosity now lies. 257 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: Basketball wise, he would be a phenomenal fit for the Warriors. 258 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: That would that would revive really the era I mean, Kauhai. 259 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna have to look at it like 260 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: first team all NBA is going to be crowded this year. 261 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: Probably can't find a home for Kauai. 262 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: But you could really argue that voters should. He's been 263 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: that good. 264 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 2: But to hear that it might have been closer than 265 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: we realized, and that he that the Clippers were the 266 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: ones pulling out is interesting. 267 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: You know. 268 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 2: I think we talked before about how we know they 269 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 2: chase big names, but the idea that there was actually 270 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: a little more traction there than we realized is pretty fascinating. 271 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: That was my thought, was my next My follow up 272 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: would have been, would we think if in fact this 273 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: were true, if we were going to say, yeah, there 274 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: was negotiation about this and they did pull out and 275 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: not reporting or those those tid mentioned rumors are true. 276 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: Does that then come from the side of the Clippers. 277 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: Are they the ones so we're trying to finagle something 278 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: or did he mutually want to split after all of this, 279 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: all of this noise around the the salary cap stuff. 280 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: And then the follow up to that is does he 281 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: have any way to block that? And would he be 282 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: happy in Golden State? 283 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: You think, I don't know, he doesn't have anywhere to 284 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: block that has no you know, the clause no trade 285 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: clause no no or even you know, if a guy's 286 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: on a one year deal, then he has a kind 287 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 2: of unwritten no trade doesn't have that. 288 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: I to me, it's it's actually his you know that 289 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 3: part of it in. 290 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: Terms of of Kawhi is more about where he's at 291 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,239 Speaker 2: with the Clippers basketball wise, beyond or outside of the investigation. 292 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: What I mean by that is they have been keeping 293 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 2: their books clean for the summer of twenty twenty seven 294 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: for quite some time now, that's an open secret. When 295 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: they made it clear to James Harden that they were 296 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: not willing to commit to him beyond this season, that's 297 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: why he started looking for a trade, trying to find 298 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: a landing stock, goes to Cleveland with Kawai. It had 299 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: been and kind of alluming question of are they going 300 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: to commit to him? 301 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 3: And really the chatter had been no, it's it's a reset. 302 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: Button in twenty twenty seven, and that's totally a dependent 303 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: of the investigation. 304 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 3: So you know, the idea of for why you need 305 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: to find a new home is not a new one. 306 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: The part where it could get sticky and the questions 307 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: we don't have answers to is because we still don't 308 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 2: know what, if anything, the league. 309 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 3: Is going to do when it comes to this investigation. 310 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: A world exists where, you know, I mean the absolute 311 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: extreme that I do not anticipate happening is to why's 312 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: contract being avoided if they found enough evidence that he 313 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 2: was part of this whole situation. So you know, if 314 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: you're a team like the Warriors, you need some clarity 315 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: or anybody pursuing Kauhia. 316 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 3: And to be honest, it's one of the. 317 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: Interesting kind of entry points reporting wise potentially to get 318 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: a sense of what the Clippers are truly thinking, because 319 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: if they're habit to talk to a team like the Warriors, 320 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: you know, you got to ask that question, and I'm 321 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 2: curious to hear if they did. 322 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: You imagine you got like Bomber on the standards, you 323 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: get like testimony like did you is it true? 324 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 4: Mister Balmba? You pulled out of Kawhi Leonard trade for 325 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 4: the first round. 326 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: The can't handle the truth. 327 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: Is it true that you did not want Jonathan Kaming 328 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: or was it financially decided bomber. Thank you so much, Sam, Sam, 329 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: and it covers the NBA for the athletic He joins 330 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: us each and every Thursday. 331 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 4: Sam enjoyed the rest of the week. Ben and we'll 332 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: talk to you soon. 333 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 5: Thanks Sam. 334 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, good dirty works, dirty laundry. We'll do it next, 335 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: only here on the Sports Leader.