WEBVTT - Dave Tobener breaks down Tugboats debut vs the Guardians

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<v Speaker 2>four to five, All right back on KVRS. The Giants

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<v Speaker 2>win the second game of a three game series, one

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<v Speaker 2>and nothing. They shut out the Guardians one run, seven hits,

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<v Speaker 2>one era for the Giants, no run, six hits and

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<v Speaker 2>no airs for the Cleveland Guardians. The wind goes to

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<v Speaker 2>Adrian Hauser. He's four and seven. He went five innings

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<v Speaker 2>and Dylan Smith gets his third save of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>agoing two innings, punching out five. Great pitching performance by

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<v Speaker 2>the San Francisco Giants. Joining me now you can read

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<v Speaker 2>his great work at sf Gate. Let's welcome and Dave

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<v Speaker 2>tobn Er Dave, how worry tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>Ill doing? Good? Bill, Nice crisp, well played game. You

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<v Speaker 1>haven't got a lot of those this year, So that

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<v Speaker 1>was that was a nice change of pace.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the tugboat era is here. They had a great,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of a reception. They really didn't announce

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<v Speaker 2>anything yesterday, and of course this morning they announced that

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<v Speaker 2>he was coming up and getting the start today. You

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<v Speaker 2>and I were texting each other pretty much throughout the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Wilkinson, twenty three year old left hander. When you

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<v Speaker 2>start looking at when he got drafted and how he

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<v Speaker 2>signed with the Cleveland Guardians, and here he gets his

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<v Speaker 2>major league bad baseball debut against the team that he

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<v Speaker 2>really thought was going to get him to the big leagues.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you think an overall picture on him today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pretty cool story. You know, there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of guys that number one look like him in the

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<v Speaker 1>big leagues anymore. And there's not a lot of pictures

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<v Speaker 1>that throw like him, you know, and he doesn't overpower guys.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a bigger guy, but you know, he sits at

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<v Speaker 1>eighty nine ninety one miles an hour on his fastball.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I thought he did well considering you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he was nervous. He got behind a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the hitters that he faced, but he managed to

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<v Speaker 1>work out of it. And yeah, I kind of I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to have seen him go one more inning,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe get one turn around the lineup and see what

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<v Speaker 1>he could do. But I understand, you know, what they were,

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<v Speaker 1>what they had set up for him, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they see him as more of a long man

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<v Speaker 1>in the future or a fifth starter and just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get his feet wet. And I found even great.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what more could you ask for from him?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Dave, I liked how he got the ball inside.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of those pop ups, one a Kavanaugh one

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<v Speaker 2>that costs he jammed him, and he jammed him. Well

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<v Speaker 2>even on that bass hit he gave up. That was

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<v Speaker 2>on the guy's hands. I like that out of him.

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<v Speaker 2>As you said, he doesn't bring a lot of velocity.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe ninety one ninety he was there. He threw a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of sliders, a couple of change ups, nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>a point where you were like, wow, that was a

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<v Speaker 2>great breaking ball. But he got his feet wet. He

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<v Speaker 2>got to the big leagues. His family and friends were there,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the baseball story. I love.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you know, like you said, jamming guys inside,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, control and placement are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>huge for him because he's, like you said, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>overpowering anybody. So it was nice to see. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a good story in a season that really

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't had a lot of happy stories for the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to take everything we can get, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was very cool. You know, the one piece

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<v Speaker 1>coming over in the Bailey trade and making his debut

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<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland, you know, where he thought he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to eventually play anyway. So good story. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>need more of those in the in the dog days here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Patrick Bailey had a chance runner out first base

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<v Speaker 2>winning run at home. He came up to the bat,

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<v Speaker 2>but Dylan Smith just went right at him, throw about

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<v Speaker 2>a ninety seven mile an hour fastball. He didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>swing at it, strike three. Pretty impressive what the Giants

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<v Speaker 2>did on the mound today. And of course Patrick Bailey's

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<v Speaker 2>walking back to the dugout hanging his hat, hanging his bat,

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<v Speaker 2>and he ended up striking out to lose that game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how about Dylan Smith. I mean he nicks out

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<v Speaker 1>save and coming in and you know, immediately having around

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<v Speaker 1>second with nobody out and striking out the side. And boy,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks like he can handle the handle the late innings.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's a closer per se, but

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<v Speaker 1>seventh inny eighth inning, guy, I think, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>making a name for himself in a case to be

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<v Speaker 1>an arm that they count on either next year or

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<v Speaker 1>whenever they play baseball again. But you know, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>important thing about the rest of this year. They have

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<v Speaker 1>to see what they have in some of these guys

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<v Speaker 1>and whether they can be long term contributors to see,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, where they have to shore things up and

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<v Speaker 1>where they have to add. So, you know, making a

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<v Speaker 1>name for himself and coming in and being able to

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<v Speaker 1>shut things down like that, it can. It's a great

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<v Speaker 1>sign that he might have the mentality for late inning work.

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<v Speaker 1>Not everybody has that.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing that I said earlier Dave was now

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Vitello's got to set him for a day, don't

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<v Speaker 2>push him tomorrow. He did that last time and he

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<v Speaker 2>came into a game and he didn't have that closing stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where he's got to learn the bullpen. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Dylan Smith, you're off today, say in Boston, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>pitching it all today. Give him the day off. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how you regulate the bullpen. Bruce Bochi was a master

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<v Speaker 2>at that. You gave me your best. You threw thirty pitches,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two for strikes. Nice job. Take a rest tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not in there, and I'm hoping he sees that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, especially now when they're not playing for

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<v Speaker 1>anything except pride. You know, they don't need him to

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<v Speaker 1>come in and shut a game down, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>they can gain a game in the standings, or they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to hold off somebody from gaining on them. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just a warm up or a showcase for

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<v Speaker 1>next year, really, so you know, I hope you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he's kind of learned a little bit as

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<v Speaker 1>he's gone about bullpen management and when the shut guys

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<v Speaker 1>down for a day or two and he's earned it,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, a six, six out stave like that, he

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<v Speaker 1>can take a day off and keep his head up

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<v Speaker 1>to that. That was an incredible performance tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Adrian hous are sure making a point of being

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<v Speaker 2>a starting pitcher. And I think you heard my numbers earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixteen innings in three the last games, only giving up

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<v Speaker 2>one to earn a run, twelve hits, twelve strikeouts, four walks. Boy,

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<v Speaker 2>he was electric today. A fastball ninety seven. At times

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<v Speaker 2>he threw forty two fastballs, twenty two sinkers. The movement

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<v Speaker 2>on his sinker going away and a righty pulling it

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<v Speaker 2>on the outside corner. Then he would throw that same

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<v Speaker 2>pitch to a lefty in on his hands, a good

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<v Speaker 2>change up. He only threw ten, but the three pitch

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<v Speaker 2>mix with the fastball, sinker and change up he kept

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<v Speaker 2>him off stride. Six ground ball outs, six fly ball outs,

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<v Speaker 2>eleven first pitch strikes to twenty hitters. I really believe

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to start, and he's sure showing signs that

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<v Speaker 2>he should.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I mean, it's unfortunate that it took

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<v Speaker 1>huntil August to show those signs, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you. You know, he's showing why he looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that they were hoping they'd get when they

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<v Speaker 1>gave that track to him last last winter. It took

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<v Speaker 1>him a while to get there, and you know, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>knows the struggles he had and being demoted to the

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<v Speaker 1>bullpen and everything like that. But you know, he seems

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<v Speaker 1>to have found something and you hope that it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that he can repeat, because you know, he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>not going where he's making a lot of money relative

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<v Speaker 1>to what the Giants like to spend. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be part of the rotation or as a long man.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you hope he's part of the rotation. You're

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<v Speaker 1>paying him to be part of the rotation. So if

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that he can repeat and something that he

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<v Speaker 1>can you know, be consistent with, Yeah, the Giants have

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<v Speaker 1>to be excited about it because the rotation outside of

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<v Speaker 1>Web is a complete mystery and a compete, complete question

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<v Speaker 1>mark going into the next season. So yeah, anybody that

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<v Speaker 1>can come in and establish themselves is going to It's

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<v Speaker 1>a blessing for the Giants because it's one less thing

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<v Speaker 1>that they'll have to address this winter.

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<v Speaker 2>Well the other thing too, Dave, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be a number two or number three as long as

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<v Speaker 2>he's in a five man rotation, and he could be

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<v Speaker 2>a three or four depending on what Land and Roop does.

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<v Speaker 2>If he gets his act together, he's got electric stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're so right. I mean, what does this team

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<v Speaker 2>have in starting pitching? Blade Tidwell throws two good games,

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<v Speaker 2>his last game walk five. Carson Wizenhunt really has gone

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<v Speaker 2>backwards in my eyes. He threw the ball so well

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<v Speaker 2>coming up, and he threw the ball well in Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you have Adrian Houser. What what can you do

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<v Speaker 2>with this staff? There isn't much to do. There isn't

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<v Speaker 2>many guys out there, and I'm right with you. With

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<v Speaker 2>with Matt Wilkinson, I think the biggest problem that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to have in the big leagues is the second and

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<v Speaker 2>third time when lineups come around on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, when you don't have any when you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the stuff to overpower guys, it's tough seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a lineup twice, especially, you know, the better lineups, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to adjust to that in a in a in

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<v Speaker 1>a staff unless you can, unless you're Greg Maddis. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean even when Greg Maddicks young, he was thrown in

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<v Speaker 1>the high nineties. But unless you can spot the ball

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<v Speaker 1>like a great Mannix, you know, you have to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of rely on some luck, some some hit ball luck

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<v Speaker 1>and some you know, being able to place the ball

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<v Speaker 1>where he want place it. And it seems like he's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that maybe can get through a lineup once

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<v Speaker 1>twice if you're lucky. What does that mean Is that

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<v Speaker 1>a four inning guy? Is that a right three or

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<v Speaker 1>five inning guy? You know, it's hard to say, but

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<v Speaker 1>they have another month and a half to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>figure that out and see where he is. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's on the forty man now, so they have to

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<v Speaker 1>decide if he's worth keeping on the forty man and

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<v Speaker 1>you know they have just like going into last offseason

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<v Speaker 1>when the bulltend needed work and they needed a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of starters, they have the exact same issues this time.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see if Posey and Manesian learned any any

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<v Speaker 1>lessons from this season when they when they actually do

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<v Speaker 1>have to go sign some guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I said it a few times on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>The next start for the tug Boat would be Monday

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<v Speaker 2>in the first home game against Cincinnati. How cool will

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<v Speaker 2>that be for that crowd to get in there and

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<v Speaker 2>give him a tug Boat welcome And we'll see if

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<v Speaker 2>he stays in a rotation. I would love to see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Toltner joining me on the Sports Funk KMBRE on

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<v Speaker 2>a Wednesday. You can read his work at sf Gait

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<v Speaker 2>does a great job covering the Giants. A Victor Barracota

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<v Speaker 2>got a start in left field, made one hell of

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<v Speaker 2>a play diving at the ball, made some great affield catches.

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<v Speaker 2>He ended up getting the game winner. He got the

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<v Speaker 2>game winning RBI with the base hit after Eldritch and

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<v Speaker 2>Adamas flew out and Raphael Devers was standing on third

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<v Speaker 2>with two outs and he came up with the clutch

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<v Speaker 2>base hit. What do you see in Victor Bearracota moving forward?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, we've talked about him before, and like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, he really reminds me a lot of Elliott

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<v Speaker 1>Ramos in a way, the same way they play. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's similar hitter. Obviously hasn't had the success that Ramos

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<v Speaker 1>has had, but you know, he seems to be like

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<v Speaker 1>he's got thetential to at least be a contributor. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they made that great play and left today, uh saved

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of runs, save the game, won the game

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<v Speaker 1>with his bat, and won the game with his glove. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's exciting to see a guy like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of an unheralded guy coming up. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really hear a lot about him, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's done enough. I think to get some some

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<v Speaker 1>run down the down the stretch here and and see

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<v Speaker 1>if he might be able to at least be a

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<v Speaker 1>platoon bat. You know, if if him and Gilbert can

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<v Speaker 1>form a lefty righty platoon, you know that that might

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<v Speaker 1>work out best for both of them. But he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>an exciting player. You know, he's a He's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to see more of, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>his emergence was one of the reasons why they were

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable in training Ramos. You know, I know they've got

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<v Speaker 1>they've got other guys in the system who they have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of high hopes for outfielders. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a little unheralded guy, but he seems like he

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<v Speaker 1>can be a contributor.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Dave, you and I were talking about Willie Thomas.

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<v Speaker 2>He got scratched with a back issue and we just

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know if he was going to go on the

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<v Speaker 2>IL if there was just a couple of days taken off.

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<v Speaker 2>And he started today and I was glad to see him,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had a nice three for four game, and

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<v Speaker 2>he made a nice play and then of course he

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<v Speaker 2>a tough spin. I think that's where he made the

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<v Speaker 2>error off of but he didn't come in to get it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good to see him out there, but how long

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<v Speaker 2>are we going to see him, possibly with this lower backstrain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I don't think it's a coincidence that

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<v Speaker 1>he had one of his better games in a while

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<v Speaker 1>after he had some time off, So maybe that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tells him something you know, it might not be

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<v Speaker 1>bad enough to shut him down for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, but you know, maybe he misses. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he plays one, takes one off, plays two, takes two off.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's I think he's got too much pride

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<v Speaker 1>and he wants to be in there, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's had it down. Yere's no other way to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's had a really disappointing year. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I hope that bothers him a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 1>get the impression that it does, but I hope it does,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, you never want to not live up

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<v Speaker 1>to to the expectations and to the contract that he signed.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think, you know, I think rested him well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think hopefully he realizes that. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's still going to I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to shut him down by any means, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're going to see a little bit less of

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<v Speaker 1>him than he normally would well Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>After tomorrow, the Giants go to Boston for a weekend series.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, some conversation tonight on a few calls about

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<v Speaker 2>what is Raphael Dever's going to have? Is he going

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<v Speaker 2>to have a standing ovation. Are there not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be liking him or is he going to have boo

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<v Speaker 2>birds coming at him? What's your thoughts about Raffie going

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<v Speaker 2>back into Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you know, I hope they cheer for him. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was on a World Series Winner. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>came up through their system and he was a young

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<v Speaker 1>guy who really performed well for the Red Sox. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he was one of the best hitters in the American

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<v Speaker 1>League when he was there. And I know that the

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<v Speaker 1>his exit wasn't it was a little acrimonious. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>as it wasn't what they intended or what they had

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<v Speaker 1>hoped it would be. But you know, I hope they

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<v Speaker 1>at least give him a nice ovation. They can brew

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<v Speaker 1>him after that. But I think we should acknowledge, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what what he helped the acknowledged at least at

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<v Speaker 1>least what he did for the franchise. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a big part of that World Series Winner

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<v Speaker 1>when he was what nineteen or twenty years old. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think I think they'll I think they'll

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<v Speaker 1>welcome him back, and I hope so, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think there was some bad blood between him and the

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<v Speaker 1>and the organization. But I never heard him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>say a bad word about the fan base there, so

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he does. You never like to see anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that played that well for a team get booed when

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<v Speaker 1>he comes back, so I think they'll do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. The Giants pitch Matt Wilkinson today against the Cleveland Guardians,

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<v Speaker 2>a team they traded for him. Now are we going

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<v Speaker 2>to see Marcella Meyer? Are we going to see him

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<v Speaker 2>up now? When he goes to Boston, Because I think

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<v Speaker 2>that would be a great homecoming because there's no question

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<v Speaker 2>he watched but a Giants uniform and perform well, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That he might get booed. They might not be forgiving

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<v Speaker 1>him so you know the comments he made that he

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<v Speaker 1>that he can't wait to play in San Francisco and

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to be on the West coast and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>so they might not take too too kindly to that.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, that would be a very cool story, wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that his first his debut with the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>back at Fenway, and Eric Miller's been killing it for

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<v Speaker 1>them over there. He's you know, he's he's pitching really

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<v Speaker 1>well for them, So it would be really nice to

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<v Speaker 1>h to see the piece they got back for him. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of make his debut and show what they what

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<v Speaker 1>they have in him. You know, he's a total lottery ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know when you have when you have the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to get a guy like that for a relief

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<v Speaker 1>pitcher who probably doesn't fit into your long term plans,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's an easy call every single time. So

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a really cool story. You know. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope he does, and I hope he he kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sticks it to him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>A few more minutes with Dave Tomer. You can follow

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<v Speaker 2>him on x at GG Giants does a great job

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<v Speaker 2>about talking giants and a lot of different feelings. He

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<v Speaker 2>feels for a lot of players, And I think I

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<v Speaker 2>want to jump into this last point Dave Land and Roupe.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of hurdles he's got to get through, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's always that one inning where he throws thirty thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five pitches and it just kind of upsets him. He

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't challenge the hitters. A big game for him tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>I really believe this start he's got to shake this.

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<v Speaker 2>And Dave Fleming and Hovey said that they talk to him,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in the clubhouse, and he's worked really hard

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to be more aggressive, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you want to see out of these pitchers. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>three three ball counts. He leads a major league baseball

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<v Speaker 2>with that. That's not a stat you're proud of, No.

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<v Speaker 1>Not at all. And you know it's you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>we were just talking about the rotation, so many question

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<v Speaker 1>marks that this is the chance for someone like him

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<v Speaker 1>to come in and really take it by the take

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<v Speaker 1>by the reins and make a name for yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>lock down that rotation spot. And you know, his last

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know, he gave up a run against Detroit,

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<v Speaker 1>but he only lasted what five and a third I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, five and two thirds against Colorado,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even go five innings against the Padres. And before that,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Milwaukee and he didn't even go

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<v Speaker 1>four innings then. So you know, he's it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>really up and down season for him. He looked like

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<v Speaker 1>an All Star in the beginning, and then he fell off,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he came back again, and he fell off again.

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<v Speaker 1>So too inconsistent. You'd like to see a little more consistency.

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<v Speaker 1>From a guy like that, especially if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>count on him to take up one of those rotation

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<v Speaker 1>spots next year or whenever they play again. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>big start for him tomorrow, and you know it's you

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<v Speaker 1>hope that he makes those adjustments. He seems like a

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<v Speaker 1>very a fiery kind of guy, and you know you

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<v Speaker 1>have to wonder if his emotions get the best of

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<v Speaker 1>him sometimes maybe that's what he has to work on

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<v Speaker 1>and really overcome. But it's a big start from tomorrow, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I really think so never really do and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a good game to gage Chaman and move forward

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll definitely find out. But Dave, thanks again for

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<v Speaker 2>joining me on a Wednesday night. It's always a pleasure

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<v Speaker 2>talking to my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Always a pleasure talking to me after a win. Bill

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<v Speaker 1>very rare.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take it, all right, Dave, have a good night,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. Coming up next, I sat down with my

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<v Speaker 2>producer ralf and the end of May, after Matt Wilkinson

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<v Speaker 2>the tugboat got traded over here, I did an interview

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<v Speaker 2>with him in Richmond and to get to know Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Wilkinson a little bit more, we're going to play that

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<v Speaker 2>interview coming up next. Bill Laski talking to the tug

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<v Speaker 2>boat as he got traded over to Richmond about a

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<v Speaker 2>week after that. That's coming up next right here on

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<v Speaker 2>sports Phone KMBR