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Speaker 2: So the question then becomes did you eat the fries?

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Speaker 2: Why why would schools not have buyouts in these nil contracts.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing that they are logical step.

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Speaker 1: They are now that the schools are getting a little

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Speaker 1: And there are stipulations to those contracts that if you

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Speaker 2: Don't you figure this deal is this settlement is probably

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Speaker 2: The big mistake was you don't give the guy all

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Speaker 2: You you said to me yesterday when we talked Mark

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Speaker 1: So they've already lost. They've already lost six games in

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Speaker 2: So is the Oklahoma job going to like how are

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Speaker 1: Well, I read everything that Randall Stevenson and Joe Harris

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Speaker 2: That Randall Stevenson is now going to be what CEO

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Speaker 1: Maybe, I mean, it's a big promotion for him, and

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't mean it from a standpoint of not

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Speaker 2: I'm and I'm not also not passing judgment on the

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Speaker 2: It just leads to that kind of speculation when when

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Speaker 1: I would look at Randall Stevenson's position to owe you

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Speaker 2: Okay, So well, I will say this, we had this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Had this conversation last week because a guy called in

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Speaker 2: So they needed to get a hire made and they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and again no ties to o you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Scott's article deals with the buddy of mine, Mike Notewhere.

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Speaker 1: It's been part of the Oklahoma State basketball program. And

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Speaker 1: You have to go back even further than that. Well,

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Speaker 2: I guess it was on Sunday after they lost that game,

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Speaker 1: But I think this is a different situation than we've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Derrek Queen a couple triple doubles Dereck Queen. I

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the problem that they have is the dude

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Speaker 2: But I think that's a really good question that you

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Speaker 3: As as we near the trade deadline fellas. A couple

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Speaker 3: Max Christie, which we could talk about here in a second.

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Speaker 3: One of the other names is Trey Murphy the third.

437
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Speaker 3: He's obviously going to be playing in Oklahoma City tonight.

438
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Speaker 3: He's not shooting the three ball quite as well. I

439
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Speaker 3: guess technically he is thirty seven point eight percent, but

440
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Speaker 3: he he can defend he's a little bit more reliable

441
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Speaker 3: from the three point line. Would you guys like either

442
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Speaker 3: of those names to get a little bit more consistency

443
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Speaker 3: from the three point line?

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Speaker 1: Max Christi is playing really good right now, but that

445
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Speaker 1: both of these guys like Okay, let's just deal with

446
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Speaker 1: Max Christy first. He seems redundant to me. I mean

447
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Speaker 1: I think that Isaiah Joe as capable of doing those

448
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: type of things. So yeah, I'm uh. Murphy, though, I

449
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: would be surprised if the Pelicans want to get rid

450
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Speaker 1: of him. I mean, he's what's his salary, it's out

451
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Speaker 1: there right, It's it's fairly high. Like the Thunder would

452
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Speaker 1: have to put together some pieces to get him. But

453
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Speaker 1: I like him I mean he would be an upgrade

454
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Speaker 1: for Oklahoma City for sure. Let's see here, I mean,

455
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Speaker 1: if the thunder are going to get rid of lou

456
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Speaker 1: Dort after the season is over, I mean they could

457
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Speaker 1: make that move right.

458
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Speaker 3: Now, twenty five this year, twenty seven to twenty nine,

459
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Speaker 3: then thirty one in twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: That's a good contract, man, if the Pelicans. If the

461
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Speaker 1: Pelicans get rid of that contract, then they just want

462
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Speaker 1: to perpetually rebuild. So Oklama City, Christ OKLAHMBS City cound

463
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Speaker 1: trade Dort for that right now.

464
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Speaker 3: Which I would love.

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Speaker 1: I think you don't lose much defense there. You get

466
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Speaker 1: an asset going forward at the same basically same tag

467
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Speaker 1: as what Dort is. But the obvious Christ Bieger would

468
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Speaker 1: make that.

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Speaker 2: The obvious question on the Trey Murphy deal that you

470
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Speaker 2: just laid out, though, is what is New Orleans motivation

471
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Speaker 2: to do that deal? Unless Oklahoma City were to throw

472
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Speaker 2: in a couple of picks on top of it, like now,

473
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Speaker 2: because you're gonna have to re sign lou Dort anyway, now,

474
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Speaker 2: they're going to have more more room to do it

475
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Speaker 2: than Okay, See, they would love the picks because they,

476
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Speaker 2: like Mark just said, traded their number one pick for

477
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Speaker 2: Derek Quinn for this next draft for Derek Queen to Atlanta.

478
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Speaker 2: But I'm saying, if you try and do that deal

479
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Speaker 2: without any picks, what's what's New Orleans motivation to want

480
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Speaker 2: to do it? Because they're gonna have They're gonna have

481
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Speaker 2: the same problem with more flexibility in re signing lou

482
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Speaker 2: Dort off of the market.

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Speaker 1: You have to get a bunch of picks.

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Speaker 3: Here's the positives of Max Christi is he's only making

485
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Speaker 3: seven milli a year for the same amount of time

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Speaker 3: through Actually if it's twenty seven to twenty eight as

487
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Speaker 3: player option than twenty eight twenty nine unrestricted free agent.

488
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Speaker 3: But you would be getting a little bit better three

489
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Speaker 3: point shooter, not quite as much defense. But you're paying

490
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Speaker 3: about twelve million less.

491
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Speaker 1: Another ridiculous contract.

492
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a part of the Luca trade.

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Speaker 1: That is a that's a steal for the MAVs. I

494
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Speaker 1: don't I don't see the thunder doing any doing any

495
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Speaker 1: significant moves. I don't know.

496
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Speaker 3: I don't either. Maybe a backup big That all depends

497
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Speaker 3: on how healthy you think Hartenstein is. But assuming Hartenstein

498
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Speaker 3: and Jay will get back healthy before the playoffs. I

499
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Speaker 3: know Jay Will has been in and out of the lineup,

500
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Speaker 3: but you would think that the move, if they made one,

501
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Speaker 3: would be to get some more consistency from three.

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Speaker 1: Man. I can't believe that. I mean, this team should

503
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Speaker 1: shoot better from a three point line than they do.

504
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Speaker 2: They did shoot better last year. It's it's it doesn't

505
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Speaker 2: make a lot of sense the way that the three

506
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Speaker 2: point shot has has fallen off this year.

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Speaker 1: No, the only this is I don't want to make

508
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Speaker 1: excuses for the team. I mean you just need to

509
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Speaker 1: make I mean that the only excuse to me that

510
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: comes up is that they just haven't had a they

511
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Speaker 1: haven't had ten games to play with a rotation that

512
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Speaker 1: everybody's out there. You're asking people to do different like

513
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Speaker 1: they've asking guys to do different things. Joe's role, Wiggins

514
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Speaker 1: role are different without a J and J dub available.

515
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that definitely changes the entire dynamic

516
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Speaker 2: of the team.

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Speaker 1: You're perfortable, right, I mean, you can't get the spots

518
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Speaker 1: on the floor and know, Okay, hey, the ball's coming

519
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Speaker 1: to me right here. I think tonight there's not going

520
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Speaker 1: to be much much defensive resistance from the Pels based

521
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Speaker 1: on the way that the lines are set up in

522
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Speaker 1: this game, because they would have me fooled. I would

523
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Speaker 1: think that New Orleans is going to play this close

524
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Speaker 1: and competitive tonight in a more of a low scoring game,

525
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Speaker 1: but the points spread and the total sales.

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Speaker 2: Based on what you just said, though, if you add

527
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Speaker 2: Max Christi into this lineup, he's going to have the

528
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 2: same issues that the current players do in terms of

529
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Speaker 2: the stability on the floor. Is not going to be

530
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Speaker 2: any better than it is just by adding him into

531
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Speaker 2: the lineup. I mean, he's hitting, he's hitting a higher

532
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Speaker 2: percentage of shots, but is that going to transfer over

533
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Speaker 2: to ok Se or is he going to fight the

534
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: same battles that our guys are fighting now and is

535
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Speaker 2: that going to throw his percentage off?

536
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Speaker 1: No good question.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious with the trade deadline about what's going to

538
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: happen with Giannis. Is this injury, if it is a

539
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: real injury, is that going to keep teams from chasing him?

540
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Speaker 2: Because I would say that it shouldn't. I mean, you

541
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Speaker 2: see that he's a he's a superstar, and he's got

542
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: a pretty minor injury. If the Nets were willing to

543
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Speaker 2: pay KD for a year without playing at all. Uh,

544
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: you got a guy with it was an ankle sprain?

545
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: Is that what they're saying his current injury is. I

546
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: would think teams would still be chasing him. I just

547
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 2: can't figure out why he with the honest Is that

548
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 2: what it is? Yeah, I can't understand why he's not

549
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: willing to say I don't want to be here anymore,

550
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: because I think his actions are saying that. He just

551
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: won't verbalize it.

552
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Speaker 1: I just think that's pr with the fans.

553
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: Maybe here's what Seam says. Seam says if the Thunder

554
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 3: did make a trade, it would likely not happen with

555
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 3: a player on the roster, but more consolidating first round picks.

556
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Speaker 3: Brings up the fact that they have thirteen first round

557
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Speaker 3: picks in the next seven years.

558
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Speaker 2: Well, but if they think that they're not going to

559
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: be able to re sign Dort for money or just

560
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 2: because Dort is going to be able to command so

561
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: much somewhere else, it would not be a terrible idea

562
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: to look at moving him now. As depressing as it

563
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: is to say that, and to say that the team

564
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: would finish this year without him, I do think there's

565
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: logic behind exploring all options.

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Speaker 1: With him, right, we got how many the trade deadline?

567
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: We need to fire up the promotion for the trade

568
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: deadline spectacular. We got another it's this week and next right,

569
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Speaker 1: nine days, nine days February fifth, right, nine days.

570
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

571
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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like nothing's happened this year as

572
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: far as trades go in the league. That's what I

573
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: felt last year before the Luca trade.

574
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Speaker 1: I saw tweet on this and then that we've just

575
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: passed the anniversary of the Luca trade. But I saw

576
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: tweet of the trades in the NBA are way way,

577
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: way way way down this year. Way.

578
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Speaker 2: Part of that is because of the way that the

579
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: cap is structured now, it's so hard to do a

580
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: deal because you've got to match that money coming in

581
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: and going out. So it makes it really like if

582
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 2: you were to go for Yanni's, to make those numbers

583
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: work is going to be crazy for anybody, unless you've

584
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: just got a terrible dead money contract that the Bucks

585
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: would be willing to take on because they're going to

586
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: let it go.

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Speaker 1: Porzenkis right right that works. I mean, like, I just

588
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: think that the deal is is for the Hawks to

589
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: be a destination where Jannis wants to go Jannis wants

590
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: to go to New York. That's why we're having all

591
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: these issues is that I don't think that the Bucks

592
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: want what they're going to get from New York, don't.

593
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: I don't think they can get enough back salary wise.

594
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: That it just even you're you're giving away your franchise

595
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: player and getting a just a box of rocks. Basically,

596
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: if you trade with Lanta, you can free up all

597
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: that space and you can have that. Again, the best

598
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: asset in the market right now is the New Orleans pick.

599
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: That that's the number one asset in the market. If

600
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: you're making a trade and you're unloading somebody that's really good,

601
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: you want that that pick. Because this year's draft, this

602
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: year's draft is incredible. I'm seeing all this stuff on

603
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: social media about Darren Pearson at Kansas, about he is

604
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: the best college basketball player since Kevin Durant. I'm not

605
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: sure they're wrong. This guy when he's out there, he's amazing.

606
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: Well, you don't see teams lusting for him the way

607
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: that they were lusting for Cooper Flag or for Zion.

608
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that analysis is wrong.

609
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that, you know, teams were actively lusting

610
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: and wim Bin Yama, not that he played in college.

611
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: Yama Yama Women Yama is a different, different deal. But

612
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: I do think that if Peterson can get out there

613
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: and play, then I think we're gonna see similar to

614
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: that kind of hype.

615
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: Speaking of Atlanta and speaking of that first round or

616
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: what could be the number one overall pick if the

617
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: ping pong balls fall the right way. Zachary Resache is

618
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: the only player to not make the sophomore team as

619
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Speaker 3: the number one overall pick at the Rising Stars game.

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Speaker 1: Usually they just put dudes on there just to put

621
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: him on there. That's kind of harsh.

622
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: Zealas. You got Stefan Castle, Donovan Klingen, Keishaan George, you

623
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: got aj Mitchell. That's right, reed, Shephard cam Spencer, Jalen

624
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: Tyson and Khalil Ware and Jalen Wells is your sophomore team.

625
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Speaker 1: You get a lot of points in that game. I

626
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: like the fact that they got some G League dudes

627
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: on there.

628
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 3: They do have a G League team and uh, now

629
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: you got Ron Harper Junior on the G League team,

630
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: and you've got Dylan Harper on the rookie team. That's

631
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 3: good little brother versus brother action. I like the rookie

632
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: team a whole lot better than I even like well,

633
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 3: I don't know, Stefan Castle is great, but the rookie

634
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 3: team has Cooper Flag, Jeremiah Fears, VJ. Edgecombe, Dylan Harper,

635
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: Trey Johnson, kN K Nipple. You got Colin Muric Boyles,

636
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: Derrek Queen and Cedric Coward.

637
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: Talking about how great the draft is going to be

638
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: next year. This year's draft's pretty darn good. Those names

639
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: that you just rattled off on the rookie team.

640
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: The sophomores, inevitably, they always beat up on the rookies

641
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: just because of the I think the more experience, right

642
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: that they've got always just like a it seemed just

643
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: like that, that's a given. I'm at Seth Wiley, Dodge

644
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Speaker 1: and Paul's Valley today. My MARKUS seventy two Interstate thirty

645
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Speaker 1: five is clean as a whistle. You can get here

646
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: if you would like. And it's the end of the month,

647
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: so they're making some great deals by Saturday. Incredible incentives

648
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: for you on four wheel drives. I mean, this is

649
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: the place to do it. Rand Dodge They've got great,

650
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Speaker 1: great deals and you get cess promise, oil changes and

651
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: engines for life right here. So come see us, Seth Wiley.

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Speaker 1: we'll come back. We get a lot more NBA to

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Speaker 1: get it to as well as some college hoops tonight.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned. A little bity showing a Tuesday. I was

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Speaker 1: a little surprised when I saw this today. There will

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Speaker 1: be something of significance involving a starting quarterback in the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl coming up. I texted this to saym earlier,

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Speaker 1: so he's ineligible to answer this question. But Brad, any

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Speaker 1: idea of what the Super Bowl will be the first

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Speaker 1: time for a quarterback?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's such a blank slate. I don't even

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Speaker 2: know which he is. I don't know which which direction

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Speaker 2: to lean I'm setting. I'm setting you up for failure

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Speaker 2: on this. Okay, here's what I think it might be,

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Speaker 2: because I think I saw this stat over the weekend

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Speaker 2: on ESPN. The youngest quarterback to start a Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: since Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: Oldest. Do you mean no, the youngest isn't uh the

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Speaker 1: youngest one. Oh wait wait since since Tom Brady started

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Speaker 1: his first one. Yeah yeah, I was thrown completely thrown

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Speaker 1: off on that one.

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Speaker 2: The youngest. No, no, no, no, that's not right. He's the youngest

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Speaker 2: to start since Dan Marino, so that's not his way back. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what you're referring to.

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Speaker 1: Second year. It's the first time a USC quarterback has

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Speaker 1: ever started in a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 1: USC has got a bunch of quarterbacks in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and they've had a lot of them that have had

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Speaker 1: some kind of success. But it's weird that of all

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Speaker 1: of the USC quarterbacks and as good as they have

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Speaker 1: been at the school and as much success as that

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Speaker 1: school has had in college football, the quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 1: NFL that have not panned out to be very good.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of busts. I think this going

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Speaker 1: back NFL wise, is Carson Palmer. I mean Carson Palmer.

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Speaker 1: Is he in the Hall of Famer? He's close to

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 2: Right, I don't think they have a quarterback in the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: They do not.

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Speaker 2: I was just looking that up. The USC does not

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Speaker 2: have a quarterback in the NFL Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Well, just like Lincoln Riley was a quarterback whisper for

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Speaker 1: University of Oklahoma who won a long time without having

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Speaker 1: a quarterback win a playoff game. Uh, And now former

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Speaker 1: HU quarterbacks are winning playoff games, and Caleb Williams is

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Speaker 1: a former OU and USC quarterback in the NFL. That's

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Speaker 1: winning playoff games. But Lincoln Riley gonna have a big

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Speaker 1: effect of that with Jackson Dart I think, and and

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams two of his guys that I think are

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Speaker 1: going to be around the NFL for a long period

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Speaker 1: of time to have a chances to go to Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: But Sam Darnold first USC quarterback ever to start a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, oh, you only as one, right, Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 3: If you don't count Troy Yeigman.

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Speaker 1: Up until a few I don't think he counts Troy

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Speaker 1: at OHU. I'm sorry, I just don't think you do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, up until a few years ago, there have

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Speaker 1: never been an OU quarterback they won a playoff game.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy. That is crazy. But if you think

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Speaker 2: about it, the OU quarterbacks were not in NFL. Shot

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks through the US guys. Yeah, that's crazy, but I

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Speaker 2: mean that's it's even more mind blowing though that USC.

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Speaker 2: Two things, that USC doesn't have a quarterback in the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, that they've never had a quarterback that

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Speaker 2: went on to be that good in the NFL, and

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Speaker 2: then also that they've never had one start at Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl to be one of the premier college football programs historically.

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Speaker 2: That is that's pretty shocking.

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Speaker 1: Uh. And two I o U's best were guys that

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Speaker 1: didn't play in the pros Hypo and White.

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Speaker 3: And obviously Bradford dealt with injuries.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. Text line says, are we really giving Jackson

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Speaker 1: Dart to Lincoln? He bounced as soon as Lincoln came

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Speaker 1: and brought Caleb Fair.

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Speaker 2: I thought about that when he's a USC guy's name,

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Speaker 2: but he is a USC guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna have to give him to Lincoln.

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Speaker 3: But now, if Caleb Williams made one, is it the

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Speaker 3: Troy Aightman or do you give a little more credence

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Speaker 3: to I.

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Speaker 1: Mean you.

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Speaker 2: Because he actually played at OU whereas Aikman. You know

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Speaker 2: it was quick. But I'll be honest with you. I'm

741
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Speaker 2: also not crazy about taking credit for Jalen Hurts. I

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Speaker 2: know he played a year at OU, but that and

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Speaker 2: I should get over this because this is the modern

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Speaker 2: era of college football that guys are going to be

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Speaker 2: there a year or so. But I just don't think

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Speaker 2: about Jalen Hurts as being one of the Ou guys

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Speaker 2: the way that I do a lot of other quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Cale has brought up a good win. Which

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Speaker 1: college has produced the most starting quarterbacks in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: In the Super Bowls?

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Speaker 2: Michigan, Well, Michigan's got to be up there because of

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Speaker 2: Brady Miami.

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Speaker 3: Are we talking number of quarterbacks or number of so

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Speaker 3: that is.

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Speaker 1: A good let's go because super Bowl starts.

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Speaker 2: So just super Bowls in general. I think Michigan, I

757
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Speaker 2: would think would have to be up there, but Miami

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Speaker 2: probably would be too because.

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Speaker 1: Alabama is my guess. I think Alabama's got a good

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Speaker 1: shot at it if especially if you go with different ones.

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Speaker 2: We not have the answer, that is, kayly no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: we don't.

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Speaker 1: Have the Alabama is my guess. We'll find the answer

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Speaker 1: out during the break and we'll come back. There's some

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Speaker 1: good guesses out there. Michigans are pretty good one too.

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Speaker 2: So we finished the last hour talking about college football

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Speaker 2: programs that have generated the most starts in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: and in trying to find the answer to the question

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Speaker 2: from AI, it kept coming up with the most starters

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Speaker 2: individual starters, which is a school that never even occurred

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Speaker 2: to me. Wouldn't have occurred to me. The col Golden

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Speaker 2: Bears has the most individual starters with five, but the

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Speaker 2: number overall starts is Michigan. Tom Brady himself responsible for

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Speaker 2: all ten of those starts, so that's number one. Then

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Speaker 2: Stanford is number two with Punky and Lway with seven combined,

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Speaker 2: and then Notre Dame and Purdue both have six combined,

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Speaker 2: and then cal At five is in the fifth spot.

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Speaker 2: It's a good question.

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Speaker 1: Plunkett two Super Bowl wins.

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Speaker 2: Punky would have won more if they'd given him more

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Speaker 2: than that one bar on his helmet and he had.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he was, that was and I think he

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Speaker 1: was a guy that came in for injury right for Stabler.

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Speaker 2: I think that might be right. I think that might

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Speaker 2: be right.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady ten super Bowls parents Michigan all time with ten.

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Speaker 3: That is well.

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Speaker 2: The funny thing is is on the bottom of the

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Speaker 2: list you've got Northern Illinois and Miami of Ohio both

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Speaker 2: represented with three each, all because of two guys, Roethlisberger

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Speaker 2: and Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 3: I loved Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 2: Northern I said Illinois. I think I meant to say Iowa.

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Speaker 2: I think I said.

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Speaker 1: Northern Iowa for him. Yeah, three super Bowls for Northern Iowa.

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Speaker 1: I'd be putting up a banner and their dome that

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Speaker 1: they play in, Sam there you go, there's a dome

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Speaker 1: that's a college dome right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Louisiana Tech has four all Bradshaw. That's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: That's not much of a school.

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Speaker 3: We'll forget about Mahome's Texas Tech five in counting.

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Speaker 2: So good question, but that is shocking that USC has

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Speaker 2: never had a starting quarterback in the Super Bowl. That

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Speaker 2: just blows my mind. What do you think about the game?

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Speaker 2: I was looking at the numbers this morning on these

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Speaker 2: two teams, and my perception is completely different than what

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Speaker 2: the numbers show you. On these two teams, head to head,

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Speaker 2: they are very, very statistically neck and neck when you

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Speaker 2: look at their numbers. But my perception is that Seattle

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Speaker 2: ought to just beat the tar out of the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at points scored, points a loud, yardage,

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Speaker 2: time of possession, they are all all of those statistical categories.

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Speaker 2: They are so close to each other.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty interesting. I have more respect for the Patriots

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Speaker 1: today than I did three weeks ago. But you still

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Speaker 1: can't get away from the fact that the Patriots, again,

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Speaker 1: that's the third statistically the third easiest schedule of all time.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that is the one thing that as I

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Speaker 2: look at these numbers and how close they are with

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Speaker 2: each other, I temper that with the idea that the

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Speaker 2: Patriots did play a schedule that was more conducive to that.

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Speaker 2: But the two things. One is I changed my tune

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Speaker 2: on the Patriots defense during the playoffs. I thought that

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Speaker 2: they really came alive during the playoffs. And Sam Darnold

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Speaker 2: has done enough to prove to me that he can

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Speaker 2: do it, that he can get them there, and so

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to doubt that he has the ability

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Speaker 2: to win a Super Bowl as a quarterback of that team.

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Speaker 2: So I'm kind of I don't know what to make

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Speaker 2: of this. I do think the Seahawks are going to win.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised a little bit that the line is under

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Speaker 2: a touchdown, and I think some of that is just

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Speaker 2: my perception of the Seahawks being statistically better than the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: even though they aren't. I was a little surprised that

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Speaker 2: the number was where it.

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Speaker 1: Was coaching advantage in this game. I'm going with Seattle.

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Speaker 2: I think that's pretty coose too.

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Speaker 1: I think verbal quarterback, I would go with quarterback, I

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Speaker 1: would go with New England offensive playmakers. I'm going with Seattle.

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Speaker 1: I think they have the more dynamic running back. They've

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Speaker 1: got by far the most dynamic wide receiver. Defensively, I'm

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Speaker 1: taking Seattle. I think the numbers right where it should be.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is a This is Seattle

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Speaker 1: favored in this game by just a little bit more

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Speaker 1: than a field goal, which means anything can happen.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: You would think that there would be more Seattle fans

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Speaker 3: there too, with it being in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Hey, when's the last time you that's Mike McCarthy without

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Speaker 2: a beard. Look at him being introduced as the Steelers coach.

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Speaker 2: You know, Jim Rome calls him the Beaver because he

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00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: says he looks like Jerry Mathers. He definitely looks like

871
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: Jerry Mathers with that beard shaved off.

872
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: That's funny.

873
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 3: Well, now with McCarthy and obviously Joe Brady going to

874
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 3: the Bills, McCarthy going to the Steelers, now you have

875
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: the Browns Cardinals and Raiders. Ranked those three, Mark, So

876
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 3: which job is better? Yeah? Number one would be best job?

877
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: Okay, Bill, Okay, the best job? We have a Cardinals, Raiders,

878
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: who else?

879
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 3: Browns?

880
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 2: I think the Raiders. I think the Raiders. They're terrible,

881
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: But I think the Raiders is number one because they're

882
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: going to get the first pick.

883
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: And you can't separate these jobs. They all have the

884
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: worst ownership in the NFL. All three of them have

885
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: terrible ownership. I don't know who's worse than the others.

886
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: I mean, the Browns have to be all time, all

887
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: time worst ownership. For the Sean Watson trade, I mean

888
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: that screwed them up so bad. As far as talent

889
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: on the roster, the Browns have the most.

890
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: I think that's fair, but again that's offset by the

891
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: idea that it is hands down the worst run organization

892
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: in the NFL, and the Cardinals are not much better

893
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: and the Raiders. You got to deal with Mark Davis.

894
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: But I think the Raiders getting the number one pick

895
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: makes that job to me the more desirable of the three.

896
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm saying this, but I would probably

897
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 3: put the Browns number one because their defense is still solid.

898
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 3: You still have Miles Garrett that division. We'll see what

899
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: happens with the Steelers and McCarthy, but that division is

900
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: more winnable than the other two divisions with the Cardinals

901
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 3: and Raiders.

902
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: Man, you kind of deal with all these owners though.

903
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: It's true, Holy cow.

904
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 2: And I don't think you can judge the job now

905
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: this is being said. I just said the Raiders have

906
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: the number one pick, but I'll explain what I mean

907
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: by that. I don't think you can judge the job

908
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 2: by one season either, and I think that levels things

909
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: out a little bit as well. That to me is

910
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 2: another reason why I would draw the Browns down a

911
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 2: little bit.

912
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: By the way, Brian Dayball is going to the Tennessee

913
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 3: Titans to be the offensive coordinator, it's interesting.

914
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: I like him as an offensive coordinator.

915
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I've read a lot about why

916
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 3: the Eagles have not landed an offensive coordinator yet, and

917
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 3: it's essentially because of Nick Sirianni apparently behind the scenes

918
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 3: wanting too much pull on what they do offensively, and like,

919
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 3: for instance, Dayball can go to Tennessee and do whatever

920
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 3: he wants offensively, He's going to have more restraints than Philly.

921
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: Well, and I think that you can look at the

922
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: problems that Philly has had even last year in their

923
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 2: Super Bowl season. You look at times in the season

924
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: when they struggled, and I think Nick Sirianni has got

925
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: to have responsibility in that.

926
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 3: Which I don't love this mark because I mean, even

927
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 3: though he's not making the higher, Howie Roseman is making

928
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 3: the higher but it one of the reasons why Johnson

929
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: and then up elevated Patricia and then obviously Patula, those

930
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 3: were the three that Nick Sirianni hired. For instance, Kellen

931
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 3: Moore was a Howie Roseman hire. But I don't love

932
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: that these guys are turning down the job because like

933
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: for instance, McDaniel or stay Ball are turning down the

934
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 3: job because of Nick siri Yanni. That I don't love that.

935
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm not confused that I did say that yesterday in

936
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: the show that this is the problem is that the

937
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: Eagles offense was way more dysfunctional for multiple reasons than

938
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: we even thought during the season. Is that I think

939
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: that that's clearly out there that working for Nick Sirieny,

940
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: you're you're going to be subject to whatever it's not

941
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: nepotism is the right word, but I mean guys that

942
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: he's close to having power and also his own offensive leanings.

943
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's what I'm saying. I think that is

944
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: a big deal that if he is, he's going to

945
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: have his finger in the pie. And if you're Brian

946
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 2: day Ball, just what Sam said, you could go to

947
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: another team, Brian day Ball, I guarantee you wants to

948
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: be a head coach again, So he can go to

949
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: another team where he can really claim responsibility for the

950
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: offense and live or die on his own hill as

951
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 2: opposed to go into a place where he's going to

952
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 2: have a guy meddling with him the whole time.

953
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 3: Now, the positive on the other side of it would

954
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 3: be you could look at Shane Steichen and you could

955
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 3: look at Kellen Moore and say, those guys did get

956
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 3: head jobs. But the other guy, I mean in the

957
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: other two opposite years, I mean, it was just horrendous.

958
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: So it's kind of you know, boom or Bust.

959
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want that job. I wouldn't want to be

960
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator for Philly If Nick Sirianni is the

961
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: head coach. I think that I think Nick Sirianni, I've

962
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: decided is in over his head. I know he won

963
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 2: a super Bowl last year, but like I said, he

964
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: and I think you've admitted this too, Sam. He he's

965
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: created problems where there probably didn't need to be problems,

966
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: or not created problems, but he's not fixed problems in

967
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: a manner that allowed the team to maximize their potential.

968
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: You have to give him. I mean, I can't not

969
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: give him credit for winning that Super Bowl.

970
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that doesn't I'm not saying.

971
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: How Howie Roseman has been the architect and I've never

972
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: like there were points in time where I thought he

973
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: didn't do a great job in the draft. But over

974
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: the last five years he is on an incredible heater

975
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: orchestrating an awesome team defense loaded, I mean, and the

976
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: Eagles fall victim to the things that happened to NFL

977
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: teams that win like this is there's attrition. I mean,

978
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: you lose free agents and you have to trade guys

979
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: away that are important because you've got to you got

980
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: to give raises and all those type of things. But man,

981
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing that this team hasn't had in

982
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: the last four or five seasons and so I I

983
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, the one thing Syria and he has done

984
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: a really good job, but is but is how much

985
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: of he is he responsible for their success?

986
00:50:59,600 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

987
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 3: The one thing that Eagles have not had is chemistry

988
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: or consistency I think is probably the right word. And

989
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: when I hear all this coming out about the offensive

990
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 3: coordinator search, it makes me think of Jalen Hurts, and

991
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 3: I'm sad for Jalen Hurts that over the last ten seasons,

992
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 3: dating back to Lane Kiffin at Alabama, he's had twelve

993
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: offensive coordinators. For instance, look at Josh Allen, who's had

994
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: Joe Brady and then gets to elevate Joe Brady. He

995
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: gets to fire the head coach and elevate Joe Brady.

996
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no chemistry there between Hertz and an

997
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. For multiple years, it's literally been a different

998
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator every single year. Do you eventually have to

999
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: give your quarterback a little bit of chemistry or consistency?

1000
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: I agree with that.

1001
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: You think Matt Stafford's going to retire, He said he

1002
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: was gonna take some time and decide based on the

1003
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: way he played this year, and is likely to win

1004
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 2: the MVP. I think he's probably gonna win the MVP.

1005
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: I can't imagine he's got another year left on his contract.

1006
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what their attrition is going to be

1007
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: on the Rams this year, but that was a really

1008
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: good team and Matt Stafford clearly had a fantastic year.

1009
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: He is I don't think he's I don't want to

1010
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 2: say he's not close to being washed, but I think

1011
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 2: he's still got plenty of tread on the tires.

1012
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: How bad is his back hurt?

1013
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: Well, that's a question.

1014
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: Like is he just physically ready to ready to retire?

1015
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: That's the question. I mean, I think that I think

1016
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: his family situation, like, you know, is he ready to

1017
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 2: be able to spend more time with his kids and

1018
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: do all of that stuff. I can't answer that, But

1019
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: in terms of being able to, he showed this year

1020
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 2: that he's still got plenty of plenty of life left

1021
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: in him.

1022
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: I would think he'd come back. I mean, he's on

1023
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: a team that that should be really good next year.

1024
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: What about Travis Kelcey, I mean the ownership, the oldership

1025
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 2: in Kansas City has made it clear that they would

1026
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 2: like for him to come back, But he sure it

1027
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: sure seemed like he kind of felt like this was

1028
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 2: his last hurrah.

1029
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 3: I think he'll play one more. I don't think he

1030
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 3: wants to end it that way. I thought all year

1031
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 3: that this was his last year, but after the way

1032
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: that it ended, I don't think it. I don't think

1033
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: it was. I could be wrong all of.

1034
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: The things, like doesn't the oh man, I'm gonna do this.

1035
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: I don't even want to bring this hell upon myself.

1036
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: The whole relationship has to be a distraction.

1037
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 3: No doubt.

1038
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: And the age also points to good reason why the

1039
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: productivity dropped off. So he might come back next year

1040
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: and make this year look good. I mean, like look

1041
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: like it was a good year.

1042
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: Well, he didn't have a terrible year, way based, it

1043
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 2: wasn't terrible. But you do make a valid point in that.

1044
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: I mean, father time is undefeated and he is getting older,

1045
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: and I agree about the relationship. It's got to be

1046
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 2: a distraction to a certain extent. And at what point

1047
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: does that out of mass overcome the force that's pushing

1048
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: it forward.

1049
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 3: One more ride for the enemy and Mahomes and Kelsey together.

1050
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: I think it'd be cool to see, and if the

1051
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 2: ownership wants him back then. It's not like he's being

1052
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: encouraged to go ahead and move forward. But again, it's

1053
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 2: sort of like the Matt Stafford deal is like, physically,

1054
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: how do you feel he does that's another year. You've

1055
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 2: got to commit to all the stuff that you have

1056
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 2: to do all twelve months of the year. Yeah, And

1057
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: he just looks so slow. It looks like he's running

1058
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: with cinderblocks on his feet compared to what he used

1059
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: to look like.

1060
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: I think it off to Brad point there. It takes.

1061
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: The older you get, the more dedication it takes to

1062
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: the craft and the off season.

1063
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 2: And I think that's what makes it so remarkable what

1064
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: Lebron James has done, what Matt Stafford is still doing,

1065
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: what even Aaron Rodgers, even though Aaron Rodgers has kind

1066
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 2: of happened year. Or Tom Brady, I mean, Tom Brady

1067
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: is the poster child of this, the guy that just

1068
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: admitted to the work and did it and didn't think

1069
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 2: about it. But man, how many years do you have

1070
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: to do that? Going back to junior high school and

1071
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: progressively getting more and more involved. And you're right, Mark,

1072
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: the older you get, the harder the work is, and

1073
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 2: the less your body responds, and the less it wants

1074
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: to do what you're trying to get it to do,

1075
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: there's got to be a breaking point at some point

1076
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: where you're like, I just can't do this anymore. I

1077
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 2: think that's what Jason Kelse.

1078
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: Kelse Braddy would tell Kelsey for sure, is that if

1079
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: you don't want Tata with the yoga instructor, then you

1080
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: better retire.

1081
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: But I don't know that she's giving him the ultimatums

1082
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 2: that he was getting.

1083
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: Clark Hunt did come out this week and say he

1084
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 3: has confidence that Kelsey can still perform at a high

1085
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 3: level of noting the team's hope for his return.

1086
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 2: That's what That's what I was saying about. Ownership has

1087
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 2: said that they want him to come back, so that

1088
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: that probably is enticing to him. I don't know what

1089
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 2: his contract situation is, and I agree with you, Sam,

1090
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 2: I think it'd be fun to see Eric b enemy

1091
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:05,479
Speaker 2: I'm back, and Patrick being healthy and Kelsey having another

1092
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: year and seeing if they could run it back because

1093
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 2: you look at what happened in the AFC this year,

1094
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: and without them in it, it was anybody's game.

1095
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 3: And let's not forget after Mahomes got hurt and Kelsey

1096
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 3: had two more drops in that game that could have

1097
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 3: kept them in the playoff race. I don't know if

1098
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 3: he wants to end it that way. Yeah, not saying

1099
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 3: the fans are gonna remember that, but he will right,

1100
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 3: all right?

1101
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: What's happening in Seth Wadley?

1102
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: Man, I'd rather man the older you get trying to

1103
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: go out, and I don't know how good that's going

1104
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: to be. They're making great deals, making great deals here

1105
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: at Seth Widley because they don't want you stuck in

1106
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: the snow, and they don't want you to sitting at

1107
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: home when you can out be rolling around in a

1108
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: big four wheel drive truck. So Seth Wiley, Dodge and

1109
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: Paul's Valley, they're making sure you can get in one

1110
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: today because you can take ten thousand dollars off new Jeep, Wranglers, Dodge,

1111
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: ramp crew cabs, four wheel drive, big Horns, all of it.

1112
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: Ten thousand dollars off. This is a one time deal

1113
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: that lasts only through Saturday. Suthwiled Dodge over twenty million

1114
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: four wheel drive inventory and you used truck SUV all

1115
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 1: of it. Take twenty thousand off new Challengers as well.

1116
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: So stop and csmil Marker seventy two uh Suthwilidodge dot

1117
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: com sesspromise, oil changes and engines for life.

1118
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 2: Look at the most interesting man in the world. That

1119
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: dude took a decade off and came back and just

1120
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: he just stepped right back into it. Didn't slow him

1121
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: down at all. He's still more interesting than anybody else

1122
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: out there.

1123
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 3: What do you think he was doing over the decade.

1124
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, being interesting somewhere, I guarantee you because

1125
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 2: he's still just as interesting as he ever was. We're

1126
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 2: going to continue on the middle of Today show. We'd

1127
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 2: love to hear from U four h five nine hundred wwls.

1128
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: You want to call us on the Lucky Star line,

1129
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: you want to text us on the Johnny Charcoal Broiler

1130
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 2: text Nation line. You could do that before the hours through.

1131
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: I do want. I don't know how I missed this

1132
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 2: last year. Are you guys familiar with the Weenie five hundred? No,

1133
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 2: they're bringing the Weienie five hundred back. We'll talk about

1134
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: it before the hour finish. I missed this last year

1135
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: and I can't believe it. It's appointment viewing for me

1136
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: this year. It's the middle of the Day Show on

1137
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 2: a Tuesday on ninety eight point one, the Sports Animal

1138
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 2: and the Sports Animal dot Com. It's a good song

1139
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: to get into the Weenie five hundred. You don't know

1140
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: the Weeni five hundred. They did it last year in

1141
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: Indianapolis during Indy five hundred Week, and they said the

1142
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: fan response was so strong that they're going to do

1143
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: it again this year. It is they take seven of

1144
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: the Oscar Meyer wienermobiles from around the country and they

1145
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 2: go head to head in the brickyard in Indianapolis during

1146
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: Indy five hundred week. And the Sonoran Dog is I

1147
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: like that they do the Soccer League move where the

1148
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: Sonoran Dog is not guaranteed a spot in the field

1149
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: this year, it's got to compete against a handful of

1150
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: other dogs for their chance to go race in Indy.

1151
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: So you got the Ripper Dog, Horn Dog, the Veggie Dog,

1152
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 2: the Hookah Dog, which is a Hawaiian hot dog. Then

1153
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 2: you got the Plane Dog, the Denver Dog, the Sonoran Dog,

1154
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: and the Idaho Dog. They're all in a bracket. Fans

1155
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: are voting on to see who is gonna show up

1156
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: as the seventh participant in the Wieni five hundred.

1157
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 3: Do we have adds on this?

1158
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, what is it the level of

1159
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: degeneracy If you're betting on the WIENI five.

1160
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: Hundred, it's zero if you know who's gonna win it.

1161
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: But an official kickoff to summer with seventy two million

1162
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: hot dogs consumed every Memorial Day weekend, I don't.

1163
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 2: Want to eat enough hot dogs. I have a hot

1164
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: dog when I go to a ballgame, but other than that,

1165
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: I really don't eat any hot dogs around the year,

1166
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 2: but I always love it when I do.

1167
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: I bet most of the people of those seventy two

1168
00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: millions are being consumed by people under fourteen. I'm curious

1169
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: to know if it's a like whether they're If it's

1170
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: true like stock car racing, all of the wienimobiles are

1171
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: equipped with the same.

1172
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: That was my question too, is are you just stock

1173
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 2: or could you roll in and have souped up your

1174
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 2: Wiener so that you increase your chance to win? Because

1175
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: that would be amazing. If you saw a Wiener with

1176
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: some nitrous boost put into it, that might make an

1177
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: even better show.

1178
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: That's a powerful Wiener when it's got nitrous it.

1179
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 2: Is, you're right about that and then the other story

1180
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 2: that I saw that I wanted to bring up to you,

1181
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 2: Mark is and this is a local story. I mean,

1182
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: I guess technically the wienermobile is too, because our mobile

1183
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: from our region could be in the race. But there

1184
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 2: is a proposal by a lawmaker out of Ada. Let

1185
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: me see if I can find this story. It was

1186
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 2: in the Oklahoma and yesterday or the day before. Senator

1187
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: John Windard from a to is proposing a bill that

1188
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: would allow alligators to be raised for pets and food

1189
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: in the state of Oklahoma. Currently, a permit and a

1190
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: written permission from the director of the Oklahoma Department of

1191
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: Wildlife Conservation are required to own an alligator, but most

1192
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 2: permits are issued only for zoos. And this guy wants

1193
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 2: to make it so that people could farm their own gators,

1194
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: both to sell his pets and his food.

1195
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: That's a bad idea.

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01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 2: I did not realize that there was a big alligator

1197
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 2: lobby in Oklahoma.

1198
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: The Department of Wildlife should have to issue a license

1199
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: for that, whether it's for a zoo. But I mean,

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01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: for the most part, if you want to raise a

1201
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: couple of alligators, I don't think the county sheriff is

1202
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: going to come out and righteous citation.

1203
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: The State Department of Wildlife hit my hand off. The

1204
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: State Department of Wildlife says alligators made around June of

1205
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: each year and lay twenty to thirty eggs. The Oklahoma

1206
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: City Zoo reports that American alligators live in an average

1207
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: of thirty five to fifty years.

1208
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: That's a long time.

1209
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 2: That is a that's a commitment.

1210
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: Not a lot not a lot of things in Oklahoma

1211
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: eating gator besides humans.

1212
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 2: No, I would think gators have pretty high up on

1213
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: the food chain. I mean maybe the only thing would

1214
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 2: be bigfoot. I've been bigfoot.

1215
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: We'll eat some gator he uh yeah, bigfitt of just

1216
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: like grab it by the tail and you know.

1217
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 2: Now, there is a small native gator population down in

1218
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 2: my neck of the woods, but those are not far they.

1219
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: Are No, they're going and I think they're migrating a

1220
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: little bit more to the to the west, right and north.

1221
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: I think there have been reports of that.

1222
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, is it true there's gators And that's what

1223
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 3: I was just about to say in Lake Texama.

1224
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: Lake Texama, I don't know about it. I would believe

1225
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 2: it if if there was, But I know that they

1226
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: found gators in Broken Bowl Lake. Mountain Fork has a

1227
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 2: few gators, and Red Sleugh, which is down in the

1228
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 2: far southeastern corner of the state, has a resident population

1229
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: of gators.

1230
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: They're not biggin's, are they. I mean not that big, right.

1231
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they're not. I don't think they're like

1232
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 2: the monsters that you see if you're in Louisiana or somewhere.

1233
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 2: But I don't know how big a gator would have

1234
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 2: to be to be able to take you down. Yeah,

1235
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 2: I just don't know about a gator farm because I

1236
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: know the kind of I grew up with the kind

1237
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 2: of people I was, the kind of people that might

1238
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 2: have an alligator farm, and I don't think they're the

1239
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 2: most responsible pet owners.

1240
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 3: You're saying, we could get like a second version of

1241
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 3: Tiger King called Peter King.

1242
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 2: Could be it could be there could be some loose

1243
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: population that gets out there. I mean, there's all those

1244
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: stories about it. I don't believe these, but there were

1245
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: all these stories about kids. You know, back in the day,

1246
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 2: you could order an alligator in the back of a

1247
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 2: comic book, and these kids ordered them in New York

1248
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 2: and then they would flush them down the toilet or

1249
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: their parents would get tired of taking care of them

1250
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 2: and flush them down the toilet, and so there's all

1251
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 2: these sewer gators in New York.

1252
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 3: Text Line is telling us that alligators don't stop growing.

1253
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: That's probably true.

1254
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: What do you mean like they don't like they just

1255
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: keep that case, right, I mean, like they just stop growing,

1256
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: Like an alligator is like going to double in size

1257
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: from yours twenty to twenty five.

1258
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 2: Well, I think a snake is the same way. I

1259
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 2: think snakes always continue to grow. That's why a rattlesnake

1260
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 2: had they And I don't know if this is completely accurate,

1261
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: but theoretically they have one rattle for every year that

1262
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 2: they've been alive, and when they shed their skin, that's

1263
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 2: what's left behind.

1264
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: I think they not that much longer.

1265
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: They continue to grow. But an alligator, I mean a rattlesnake,

1266
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 2: I don't think lives fifty years. I think, left to

1267
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 2: its own devices, it's not going to live that long.

1268
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 2: Fifty years. It's a long time. That's like getting a

1269
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 2: bird that's going to live one hundred years. Like your

1270
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: airs are going to have to take care of your alligator.

1271
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want a pet bird or a pet turtle,

1272
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: especially if you're later on in life. Uh, yeah, I

1273
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. That's a Those are interesting issues.

1274
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe a lot of the people that thought

1275
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 2: they were going to get rich in the weed industry

1276
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 2: that it hasn't quite worked out for it could take

1277
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 2: the money that they earned in the weed industry and

1278
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 2: put in an alligator farm.

1279
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: Uh. The only alligator farm that I can remember is

1280
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: the one in Righteous Gymstones right there is.

1281
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, there was an alligator farm

1282
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: in Hot Springs, which may still be there.

1283
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: Uh.

1284
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 2: The i Q Zoo I think is gone, but the

1285
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 2: alligator farm I believe may still be there. I'm gonna

1286
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 2: look and see.

1287
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 3: Someone just sent us a picture of a gator sticking

1288
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 3: its head through the ice out here.

1289
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, at Arkansas alligator farm in Petting Zoo still there

1290
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 2: in Hot Springs, Arkansas. It's closed today, but it's still there.

1291
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: Poor Arkansas Huts. Can they win a championship in the SEC? Well,

1292
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: they're here tonight, they are here tonight. Hey, there was

1293
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: a great college basketball game last night. I don't know

1294
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: if anybody watched Duke or excuse me, well, Duke also

1295
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: played last night. But Arizona and BYU.

1296
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 3: What a choke that turned out not to be a choke.

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Speaker 1: B Yu didn't not shoot the ball well at all.

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Speaker 1: At one point they made three of twenty one threes

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Speaker 1: and they were throwing them all up and aj Depantsa

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01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: was missing free throws and Arizona was putting on a

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Speaker 1: clinic for most of that game. And then with like

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Speaker 1: three minutes to go up fifteen or sixteen, it gets

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01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,439
Speaker 1: all the way down to a one point game after

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Speaker 1: a technical late That was crazy.

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Speaker 3: Well, and they had a jump ball that gave BYU

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Speaker 3: a shot at it.

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Speaker 1: BYU down one, had the ball under ten seconds, end

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Speaker 1: up losing by three. But that was that was a

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01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: good game. And like I was saying, this year in

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01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: college basketball, the tournament could be fantastic. There are better

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Speaker 1: players and better action and just better everything in college

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Speaker 1: basketball that there's been in quite a while. Should I

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Speaker 1: mean tonight? There's also a great game tonight. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure Nebraska has very many pros, but they are playing

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Speaker 1: with a lot of confidence. They go to Michigan, big

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Speaker 1: underdog tonight. But I wouldn't count Nebraska out. They just

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Speaker 1: find ways to win. They were behind at half on

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Speaker 1: Saturday and been outscored in Minnesota by twenty five points

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Speaker 1: in the second half to come back and win that game.

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Speaker 1: So there's some good college hoops going on. Michigan, you

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Speaker 1: off this week in the midweek, and and O you

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Speaker 1: placed to night against Arkansas.

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Speaker 2: Michigan favored by over ten in that game. Are you

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Speaker 2: saying you would take Nebraska in that matchup?

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Speaker 1: Boy? I mean, it wouldn't be a game that I

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Speaker 1: would feel real strongly about betan either side. I was

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01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: just saying that Nebraska has overcome all kinds of obstacles

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Speaker 1: to win games this year when people have been doubting them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've already won on the road at Illinois,

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Speaker 1: they won on the road at Indiana. Those are tough

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Speaker 1: places to play and win.

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Speaker 2: Thunder. Also at home tonight they're taking on the New

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Speaker 2: Orleans Pelicans. You'll hear that game here on the Sports Animal.

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Speaker 2: I didn't get to talk to you about the announcement

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Speaker 2: that the college football playoff field was going to stay

1336
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 2: the same next year. Let's get into that a little

1337
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 2: bit as we continue. We can also jump over to

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01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 2: the Darien Mensa situation. From there, we've got a little

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01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: bit of time left to go if you'd like to

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Speaker 2: join us, four or five. Nine hundred WWLS is our

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Speaker 2: number mark. What's happening is Seth Wideley.

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Speaker 1: Seth Wiler's got great deals right now on four wheel drives.

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Speaker 1: They're giving you a credible incentives. If you just said, hey,

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Speaker 1: screw it, I'm tired of not being able to get

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Speaker 1: around in the snow. I don't want to be stuck

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Speaker 1: right I don't want to be snowed in at home.

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Speaker 1: They're going to make sure that they take advantage of you.

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Speaker 1: Take advantage of great deals here like ten grand off

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Speaker 1: cheap wranglers, a Dodge ramp, crew cab, four wheel drive,

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Speaker 1: big horns, all of it on sale. It only lasts

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Speaker 1: through Saturday, So get yourself up here to Seth Wali.

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Speaker 1: Call him and tell I can't get out of my driveway. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to buy a truck, so let's do a deal.

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Speaker 1: Sethwilidodge dot Com, Paul's Valley I thirty five and Exit

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Speaker 2: More of the middle of the day's show. After this

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Speaker 2: ninety eight point one, the Sports Animal and with you

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Speaker 2: wherever you go on the Sports Animal dot Com. Middle

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Speaker 2: of the Today Show on a Tuesday, Mark Brad and

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01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 2: Sam Marc is at Seth Widley and Paul's Valley. Sam

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Speaker 2: and I are in studio. Love to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: Four five nine hundred wwls. If you could call us

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Speaker 2: on the Lucky Star line, you can text us on

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01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 2: the Johnny's Charcoal Broiler Text Nation line. It's a great

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01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 2: piece of the USA Today this morning. The headline is

1367
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 2: nc lied about nil. College sports have never been more popular.

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01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 2: It's a guy named Blake Topmeyer. I don't know him

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01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 2: by name, but I do appreciate this piece that he

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01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 2: wrote because he went back to testimony that was given

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Speaker 2: back when the NCAA was very aggressively pushing back on

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Speaker 2: players being able to be paid and talking about how

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Speaker 2: the one of the core tenets of college athletics was

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01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: the amateur status of those players. And this guy's piece

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01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 2: is basically saying, you told us all along that you

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01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 2: didn't want to do this because it would be damaging

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01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 2: to the sport, and this sport that we love would

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01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 2: go away. And I normally, in a situation like this,

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Speaker 2: I would say The only people that won't admit that

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01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 2: there are problems in college athletics with the way the

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01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 2: system is right now are the people that are making

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01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 2: a lot of money on it. But I think even

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01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 2: the people that are making a lot of money on

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01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 2: it are willing to admit that the way that this

1385
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 2: thing is being regulated or not regulated as it were,

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01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 2: will still admit that there are problems in the city.

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01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 2: But one of them is not the fact that college

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01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 2: athletes are making money. I mean, this guy's got a

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01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 2: great point this Now, we had a magical game, we

1390
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 2: had the Cinderella season for Indiana. It really got people

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01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 2: hyped up for it. But I think equal to that

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01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 2: is just the way that this playoff has reinvigorated the sport,

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01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 2: where you've got teams that can stumble a couple of

1394
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 2: times through the season and still have a shot at

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01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 2: the national championship. So as a result of that, I

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01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 2: was a little bit surprised that they decided to just

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01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 2: stay with the status quo and keep the field at

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01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 2: twelve instead of expanding it out to sixteen or twenty four.

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Speaker 2: You surprise it all by that mark.

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Speaker 1: No, because of the inability and the agendas of the

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Speaker 1: two power conferences that they're not the same. So no,

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01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: that doesn't surprise me. Both are stubborn, and I think

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01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: both kind of did what was The SEC did what

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01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: was best for them by not acquiescing to giving four

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01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: automatic bids to the ACC in the Big twelve, and

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01:11:56,120 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: I think they're right and that they're right in the stance.

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Speaker 1: But our grandkids are going to have a textbook at

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01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: some point in time of a case study of why

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01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: the NCUBLEA made some of the worst decisions of any

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Speaker 1: governing body of all time.

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Speaker 2: Can you think of an instance where the NCAA was

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01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 2: ever right about anything?

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01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: It's hard to think of one where they were.

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Speaker 2: In regards to college football because the march madness is great,

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01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 2: even though there have been some mistakes I think made

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Speaker 2: in that. I think they do do a good job

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01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 2: with that, but in football specifically, it's you're hard pressed

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Speaker 2: to think of many.

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Speaker 1: Is very good that the NCAA fought forever and ever

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Speaker 1: not to do what was right and give a stipend

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Speaker 1: to college athletes, especially with all of the money in

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01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: the revenue that was pouring in and told everybody we

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01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: can't afford it. And now that they can put stipulations

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01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: in place that are going to stem the tide of

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01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: just having to go out and pay astronomical figures to

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01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: college players, which is not what the Supreme Court agree to.

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01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: To me, they didn't say, hey, these guys have to

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01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,480
Speaker 1: make money, hand of a. They just should be responsible

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01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: for being paid for some of the hours that they

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01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 1: put in and things like that, name image and lightness

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01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: that they continue to find money in holes where they

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Speaker 1: never even before, Doug, you know, to pay players.

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Speaker 2: So I think I've come around point out to Sam's

1434
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 2: position on this. I think that it ought to be

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01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 2: sixteen teams, and it ought to be the best sixteen

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Speaker 2: teams in football. I hate it for teams that are

1437
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: going to compete and not really have a chance. But

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Speaker 2: I think that and I think this is part of

1439
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 2: your position on it, Sam, And if it's not, then

1440
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 2: I apologize for hitching on to this. But I think

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01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 2: that the I think the guaranteed positions are really a

1442
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 2: moot point, Like you shouldn't necessarily a conference shouldn't be

1443
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 2: guaranteed x number of spots in the field. If you

1444
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 2: got that many spots of teams that are good enough

1445
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: and qualify as one of the top sixteen they get in,

1446
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,839
Speaker 2: and if you don't, there's no guarantee that you elevate

1447
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: somebody up to put them in.

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Speaker 3: I just want to see the top sixteen teams in

1449
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,879
Speaker 3: a bracket one through sixteen.

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01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: I want to go one more. I want to kill

1451
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: the balls. I want to go to twenty four. I

1452
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 1: want more home playoff games. I want better games in December.

1453
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: I want the college football season in one semester. I

1454
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: want to play a championship on New Year's Day. That's

1455
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: where I would go. But I mean I for sure

1456
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: would favor sixteen over twelve. Again that no automatic bits.

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01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 2: That's what really I found a little surprising, as good

1458
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 2: as it's been and as lucrative as it's been for

1459
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 2: them to say, you know what, we'll just stay at

1460
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 2: twelve when they they could have expanded it out and

1461
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 2: made more money, because that would be another week of

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01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 2: games that they would make revenue off of.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why the Big ten is holding on

1464
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: to want everybody else to be for this to be fair,

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01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, why are they trying

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01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: to sustain the ACC and the twelves? I mean, and

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01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that those conferences aren't bad. But like

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01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: Tech Miami, those are teams in the Big twelve and

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01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: the ACC that want to play big Boy football. They

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01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 1: want to pay and they want to go out and

1471
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 1: spend a ton of money. But not all those this

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01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: those leagues are committed to doing it. So why do

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01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: you want to do This would be my speculation.

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01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 2: I don't know this, but this would be my speculation

1475
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 2: that these conferences, and again this goes back to what

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01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 2: I was saying about the only people that would say

1477
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 2: it's not that there's not a problem or the people

1478
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 2: making a lot of money off of it. I think

1479
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 2: the conferences look at it and say, if we go

1480
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 2: to that model, the incentive to stay in a super

1481
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 2: conference is less than it previously was. And so then

1482
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 2: you go back to hello a logical position, which is,

1483
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 2: let's break this thing up geographically, let's break it up

1484
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 2: in equal numbers, and then we're going to take if

1485
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: you're good enough to be in the top sixteen or

1486
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: the top twenty four, whichever one it winds up being,

1487
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 2: you're going to get in the field. And it doesn't

1488
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 2: matter if you're coming out of the Big ten or

1489
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 2: the SEC. Everybody's going to have an equal shot that

1490
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 2: takes some of the power away from the super conferences, right.

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01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: I think if the Big ten would just go with

1492
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 1: the SEC model, they would be fine. If there was

1493
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 1: just no automatic pits, you just went with the top

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01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: twenty five, they're going to be represented. I think the

1495
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 1: same way, and the SEC would be I.

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01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 2: Agree, but that's what I'm saying, like all of a sudden,

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01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 2: when it comes time to renegotiate deals. Now, the one

1498
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 2: thing those conferences have going for them is they're on

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01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 2: separate negotiation windows, so there's not going to be a

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01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 2: clean divisive line. But that's what I'm saying about all

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01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 2: of a sudden. If there is no you don't have

1502
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 2: an added benefit of being in the SEC or the

1503
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: Big ten because you're going to have an easier shot

1504
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 2: to get there. Somebody might look at it. Oklahoma or

1505
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 2: Texas might look at it and say, we've got a

1506
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 2: better shot if we broke back out and went to

1507
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 2: our regional area and made a push for that. I

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01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 2: think that the conferences are threatened by what they would

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01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 2: conceive as a lack of power position if it were

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01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 2: to go to that equal footing, I think there's a

1511
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: benefit to them to being guaranteed that if you're in

1512
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 2: the SEC, you got one of four shots guaranteed to you.

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01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 3: But forget about automatic bids. To me, I mean, why

1514
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 3: what is taking so long? Why would they want to

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01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 3: wait and leave all that money on the table, for

1516
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 3: instance next year when the team's getting left out. Last

1517
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 3: year it was Texas and Notre Dame and Vanderbilt. Those

1518
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 3: were SEC teams and then an independent. But I mean

1519
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 3: that could just as easily have been a Big ten team.

1520
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 3: But it's probably going to be a Big ten or

1521
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 3: SEC team that gets left out. Why would they not

1522
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 3: want to go to sixteen or twenty four immediately.

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01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: A bunch of weeks ago and someone Texas this a

1524
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, And it might be one hundred

1525
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,959
Speaker 1: percent right. It might be the SEC defending its partnership

1526
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: with the ESPN. ESPN has the sole rights to the

1527
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 1: college football Playoff. If you add games, then there has

1528
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,799
Speaker 1: to be some kind of renegotiation, and.

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01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 2: There's logic fox in, there's logic to that, and I

1530
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 2: think it makes sense. But I would argue that a

1531
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 2: rising tide, if it's all boats, everybody's going to make

1532
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: more money. Now ESPN might not make quite as much

1533
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 2: money as they could. But I think that it's just.

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01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 1: Don't want to share it. There has been intellectual property,

1535
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: there has been promotes. Yeah, you're right, you know how

1536
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 1: the investment in ESPN in promoting an event that's theirs

1537
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: as opposed to an event that's not theirs.

1538
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 2: But this goes back to what I'm saying about the

1539
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: why this guy's point is so valid In the USA

1540
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 2: to day piece. There's been no erosion. There have not

1541
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 2: been fans saying, well, we don't care anymore because players

1542
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 2: are getting paid. We don't care anymore because the team

1543
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 2: from the conference that we followed didn't make it into

1544
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 2: the playoff or didn't make it into the championship. The

1545
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 2: numbers are just going up.

1546
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 1: Now.

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01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 2: I don't think that's completely sustainable. I think there's a

1548
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: variety of reasons why that there is an upper limit

1549
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 2: to that, first and foremost being that the demographic growth

1550
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 2: in the United States is going backwards instead of forwards.

1551
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,879
Speaker 2: But I think that's that is significantly in the future,

1552
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 2: and any hesitation that people have had has not come

1553
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 2: to fruition based on the way that the number have

1554
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 2: gone since we've had this playoff people are more and

1555
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 2: more willing to watch a good product.

1556
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 3: And you're one correct, except for two games the game

1557
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 3: that had too lane in the game that adds JM.

1558
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 2: Well, and again, you don't have to worry about it

1559
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 2: that if you're ESPN, because you're either not going to

1560
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 2: get that game or you're going to get that game.

1561
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 2: But you're going to get that game against Indiana. Are

1562
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 2: you going to get that game against Ohio State? So

1563
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 2: I I just I think it's a win win all

1564
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,600
Speaker 2: the way around. Again, that was I was a little surprised,

1565
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 2: but you're right, Mark, It does make some sense that

1566
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 2: it was just them saying, hey, we want to do

1567
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 2: it this way, or we just won't do it at

1568
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,839
Speaker 2: all any different any differently.

1569
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,560
Speaker 1: Well, we'll get there eventually. We'll see how it happens.

1570
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's inevitable. I think the money is

1571
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 2: at some point, the money is going to be too

1572
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: great to be able to just walk away from it.

1573
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. ESPN though that like all of the you know,

1574
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 1: all of the ridiculous money that they've laid out and

1575
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: promised to these college football teams. I think the model

1576
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: is to make the money on the back end because

1577
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: of the long term deals, so they definitely don't want

1578
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,839
Speaker 1: to renegotiate. I mean, like the ACC negotiated a football

1579
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: contract that's so bad that extends out to twenty thirty six,

1580
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: that was immediately proven to be financially poor two years

1581
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: into the deal. But ESPN doesn't want to let them

1582
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: out of it because they're going to make a bunch

1583
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 1: of money off the back end. Probably the money they're

1584
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 1: making off the back end of that, they're paying the

1585
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: front end to the SEC right now, So they don't

1586
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: want to tear that up and negotiate a new deal

1587
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,799
Speaker 1: with this new with these new numbers.

1588
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 2: You're probably right about that. Well, and I think money

1589
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 2: at the highest level, if there is no debate, one

1590
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 2: thing that you're always right about is that it's the

1591
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 2: money that always talks. It's always followed the money. That's

1592
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 2: where you're going to see any sort of movement or

1593
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 2: lack of movement, is whether there's money that can be

1594
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 2: made or they think that there's money that could be lost,

1595
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: so they don't want to walk away from it. Well,

1596
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 2: I know this, We're not anywhere near the result of this.

1597
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 2: We do know for a fact that we're going to

1598
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 2: get one more year of a twelve team playoff though,

1599
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 2: So that's where we are. And again they're walking away

1600
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,600
Speaker 2: from four games. They could have four more games that

1601
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 2: they could be making money off of, but they walked

1602
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 2: away from it instead. So I don't know the reason

1603
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 2: for it. I just know that's how it is. One

1604
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 2: more time, tell us about Seth Widely.

1605
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 1: Seth Widely Dodge here in PAULSA. They're going to be

1606
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,759
Speaker 1: in Pauls Valley all week. Seth Widley's got some incredible

1607
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 1: deals going on right now before the end of the month,

1608
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 1: so they're making a push to sell as many vehicles

1609
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: as possible, and they really want to incentivize people that

1610
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 1: are up with the snow and not being able to

1611
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: get around in the snow. Four wheel drive vehicles ten

1612
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 1: grand off as simple as that, cheap Wrangulers, Dodge Ram,

1613
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 1: crew Cap, four wheel drive, big Horns, the Rams there,

1614
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 1: They've got them all. So get on down here and

1615
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 1: take advantage of these deals before they go away on Saturday.

1616
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:52,799
Speaker 1: Exit seventy two. My mark is seventy two. I thirty

1617
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 1: five here in Paul's Valley.

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01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 2: I have got a four wheel drive that I need

1619
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 2: about four times a year, but when I need it,

1620
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 2: I got to have it. And that's why always have

1621
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 2: a four wheel drive. So yeah, good, good time to

1622
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 2: get down to Seth Wadley Mark enjoyed it. I will

1623
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 2: be with you on Thursday.

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01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: UH looking forward to with the Ultimate coming up next.

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Speaker 1: Sayson