Speaker 1: And we continue at two five in the afternoon on
Speaker 1: the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Wangs in Culver City.
Speaker 2: John Time is running out to get your message out
Speaker 2: for the June primary. So you're seeing a blitz from
Speaker 2: all different candidates trying to get their message out go
Speaker 2: on different places, including places they said they weren't going
Speaker 2: to go. Katie Porter did a whole lot of interviews
Speaker 2: over the weekend Chicken Dinner, and while we are going
Speaker 2: to play you her interview with Alex Michaelson, Johnny, can
Speaker 2: I just play you the first five seconds of her
Speaker 2: interview with Ashley Zavalla.
Speaker 3: Oh my, Katie Porter, thank you so much for making
Speaker 3: time for us. I'm excited to be in conversation.
Speaker 2: Oh my, what voice was that? Perky housewife, Katie.
Speaker 3: Katie Porter, thank you so much for making time for us.
Speaker 3: I'm excited to be in conversation.
Speaker 2: Also, maybe I'm just kind of old fashioned. Who says
Speaker 2: I'm excited to be in conversation. I think she was
Speaker 2: just happy that no one was in her f and shot.
Speaker 3: You're out of my shot, Katie Porter, thank you so
Speaker 3: much for making time for us. I'm excited to be
Speaker 3: in conversation.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you she has handlers who have told her
Speaker 1: you cannot look like you're going to hit the person
Speaker 1: who's interviewing you.
Speaker 2: But that was her whole appeal to begin with.
Speaker 1: I know, but it blew up in her face like
Speaker 1: a hill billy's rifle. So then they had to do
Speaker 1: a course correction. So now they're trying to sell her
Speaker 1: as being nice. But you can't do it because even
Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder can see the rage that's bubbling up beneath
Speaker 1: the surface with her.
Speaker 2: Well, and she's already tried this before. That was the
Speaker 2: Senate campaign where she didn't win. Yeah, no one's buying it.
Speaker 3: Katie Porter, thank you so much for making time for us.
Speaker 3: I'm excited to be in conversation.
Speaker 2: Now. There is a thirty minute interview of Zavala sitting
Speaker 2: down with Porter. I listened to the entire thing while
Speaker 2: walking up and down the Katie Trail in Dallas yesterday.
Speaker 2: The Alex interviews a little juicier, but it's only eight minutes,
Speaker 2: so I think we'll start with the Alex one. Let's
Speaker 2: do it. Here is Katie Porter giving her final pitch
Speaker 2: to Alex Michaelson of CNN's The story.
Speaker 4: Is The story is the race for California governor. The
Speaker 4: San Francisco Chronicle has endorsed former Congresswoman Katie Porter, one
Speaker 4: of several newspapers across the state to back her campaign.
Speaker 4: In fact, every newspaper with an editorial board that's endorsed
Speaker 4: has backed her. But a new internal poll from the
Speaker 4: California Democrat.
Speaker 2: That's interesting, they don't like Styer. I guess well, they've
Speaker 2: all had to talk to Bessara, so I can understand
Speaker 2: why they're not getting that endorsement.
Speaker 4: But a new internal poll from the California Democratic Party
Speaker 4: shows that Republican Steve Hilton and Democrats Javey are Butsarah
Speaker 4: and Tom Steyer are the front runners to advance to
Speaker 4: the general election. Former Congresswoman Katie Porter joins us here
Speaker 4: live right now in the studio. Congresswoman, welcome back to
Speaker 4: the story. Is great to have you in person here
Speaker 4: for the first time.
Speaker 5: It's great to be here.
Speaker 4: So how do you see the state of the race.
Speaker 4: We've had this interesting phenomenon where ballots were mailed out
Speaker 4: a couple weeks ago, and yet people are holding on
Speaker 4: to their ballots in a way we've never seen before.
Speaker 1: They're waiting for a May surprise. How many more surprises
Speaker 1: do we need? I mean, wasn't the Eric Swallwell surprise
Speaker 1: enough that practically jumped out?
Speaker 5: Okay, and particularly slow among Democrats.
Speaker 2: Why don't you wait for him to finish asking the question?
Speaker 5: Bellot return is slow, and particularly slow among Democrats. I
Speaker 5: think that's because a lot of people are still making
Speaker 5: up their mind. I think there was a lot of
Speaker 5: concern a few months ago about whether or not two
Speaker 5: Republicans could get through. That is now not a concern,
Speaker 5: and I think some Democrats are starting to realize, oh, actually,
Speaker 5: we should just get to know the Democratic candidates and
Speaker 5: pick who we think is going to be the best leader.
Speaker 2: And somehow they're picking Besarah.
Speaker 1: That must kill her the fact that she's losing to
Speaker 1: the village idiot, like.
Speaker 2: I think it's one thing to lose to Stire because
Speaker 2: he has ungodly amounts of money, But to lose to Besarah,
Speaker 2: who arguably might be the dumbest candidate on that stage, that's.
Speaker 1: Valuably what are you talking about? That guy has the
Speaker 1: IQ of an ice cube. In August.
Speaker 5: And they were having a chance now to do.
Speaker 4: That why do you think Javier Bessera has sort of
Speaker 4: rocketed up after the.
Speaker 6: Swallowell dropping out.
Speaker 2: I can't really figure someone's trying to astir the pot.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 5: I can't really figure that out entirely, but I will
Speaker 5: say that I think.
Speaker 2: Well, have you met the average California voter?
Speaker 3: No, I don't know enough to give you any good information,
Speaker 3: but good luck finding someone who does.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Here's the answer. Tom Steyer oversaturated the market with ads
Speaker 1: and people are sick of him, and Katie has the
Speaker 1: personality of an hoa.
Speaker 5: No, I can't really figure that out entirely, but I
Speaker 5: will say that I think the way that we've conducted
Speaker 5: this campaign, focusing on what we would actually do to
Speaker 5: lower costs for families, has been a real contrast to
Speaker 5: what he's talked about. There's a lot of all get
Speaker 5: or done.
Speaker 2: A lot of that is besserah be Sarah has no
Speaker 2: specifics to anything. What are you going to do to build?
Speaker 2: We are you going to build? And don't forget he's
Speaker 2: going to scrub it too, Oh, scrub a dub dub.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of all get or done, a lot
Speaker 5: of all have a meeting and I think what we've
Speaker 5: really tried to say is look at your paycheck. Look
Speaker 5: how much is coming out for California's state income taxes.
Speaker 5: If you're earning less than a one hundred thousand dollars,
Speaker 5: when I'm governor, you won't have that money gone from
Speaker 5: your paycheck. Talking about saying to people, look at what
Speaker 5: college is going to cost, Imagine being able to raise
Speaker 5: a family here, knowing that you could have free college,
Speaker 5: period full stop. These are real solutions to bring down costs.
Speaker 5: And I think that for people who care about the
Speaker 5: future of California, you ought to be looking for concrete,
Speaker 5: real policy solutions, and I think that's what drove those
Speaker 5: newspaper endorsements.
Speaker 2: And yeah, but the average California voter doesn't care about
Speaker 2: any of that. They like Baker Rhea.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you chase out all of
Speaker 1: the wealthy people, which is what Gavid Dusom has been
Speaker 1: telling people that she would do if elected, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, everyone making under one hundred grand a
Speaker 1: year doesn't have to pay taxes anymore. How are you
Speaker 1: going to afford all of these things?
Speaker 4: And it's interesting that you and Steve Hilton, the Republican
Speaker 4: and the race are both for this tax cut for
Speaker 4: people under one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: I think it reflects the fact that both of us
Speaker 5: are really focused on not doing the same things that
Speaker 5: Democrats have been doing. I'm a Democrat, Steve's a Republican.
Speaker 5: We are very different on so many issues, including the
Speaker 5: environment and obviously on Donald Trump. But I think what
Speaker 5: we're seeing from a lot of politicians is describing the
Speaker 5: problem of unaffordability. You hear this from Tom Steyr all
Speaker 5: the time. He says, you know, I've heard that California
Speaker 5: is unaffordable.
Speaker 2: She hates him so much, She's not alone.
Speaker 1: Do you think she has one of those voodoo dolls
Speaker 1: of Tom Steyer in her house?
Speaker 2: Well, we do know that when this moment happened.
Speaker 5: Sorry for the noise, I'm cutting carrots.
Speaker 2: That's when she did that Instagram live video where she
Speaker 2: was talking about all the money that Tom Steyer was
Speaker 2: putting into his own campaign. What do you think she's
Speaker 2: going to do after she loses?
Speaker 1: Because I could see her, I could see her doing
Speaker 1: a political podcast where it's the filthiest thing you've ever
Speaker 1: heard before in your entire life. Like a dirty club
Speaker 1: comic from the nineteen eighties without the jokes, where it's
Speaker 1: just her raging on other candidates for office in the
Speaker 1: most vulgar terms, imaginable.
Speaker 2: Uncensored with Katie Porter.
Speaker 5: Oh well, we would have to hear it because it's
Speaker 5: not unaffordable for Tom.
Speaker 6: But I think it's a billionaire.
Speaker 4: He's a billionaire and almost two hundred million dollars on
Speaker 4: the camp.
Speaker 5: Making this now the most expensive goodnatorial race in the
Speaker 5: nation's history. But I think what I'm focusing on.
Speaker 2: We didn't get a dime of that money. What the hell.
Speaker 2: I don't think we got any on KSFO either. What
Speaker 2: the hell could have made budgets tire.
Speaker 5: But I think what I'm focusing on is what do
Speaker 5: we do about that problem. I don't need as a
Speaker 5: single mama three kids. I know it's expensive here. I'm
Speaker 5: the one who pushes a shopping.
Speaker 2: Cart there it is.
Speaker 1: Yep, you knew we were going to hear about food.
Speaker 1: And by the way, you live in taxpayer subsidized housing.
Speaker 5: I'm pulling in to the bakery. I don't need as
Speaker 5: a single mama, three kids. I know it's expensive here.
Speaker 5: I'm the one who pushes a shopping cart. I'm focused
Speaker 5: on and what could we change. What are the levers,
Speaker 5: what are the tools that the governor has to actually
Speaker 5: bring down costs and quickly, because we need to keep
Speaker 5: growing our population, We need to keep adding people to
Speaker 5: our state.
Speaker 6: One of the.
Speaker 1: Biggest costs for do you think when she's pushing that
Speaker 1: grocery cart, I'm assuming it a Ralph's or a Trader
Speaker 1: Joe's in the Irvine area. Do you think she's eating
Speaker 1: grapes while she's pushing the cart and doing the shopping
Speaker 1: so when they weigh them, she has to pay less.
Speaker 1: How about the rotisserie chicken? You think there's any meat
Speaker 1: left on the bones or do you think it's pick
Speaker 1: clean by the time she checks out.
Speaker 5: Winter winter chicking dinner.
Speaker 4: One of the biggest costs for families is healthcare. And
Speaker 4: you have been very clear that you believe in single
Speaker 4: payer healthcare in California. Javier Bessera has not been as
Speaker 4: clear in terms of what he's going to do. That's
Speaker 4: something we got into during the debate on CNN. But
Speaker 4: let's drill down on what single payer healthcare costs, because
Speaker 4: an estimate by UCLA said it would cost over seven
Speaker 4: hundred million dollars, which would make it billion dollars, seven
Speaker 4: hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 2: For a second, I'm like, wait, that's a pretty good deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, Oh boy, if it was seven hundred million,
Speaker 1: Gavinan had done it.
Speaker 4: Which would make it three times more expensive than the
Speaker 4: entire state budget right now.
Speaker 2: Actually, the budget got so big, it's only double the
Speaker 2: size of the state budget.
Speaker 1: Imagine though, if going to the doctor was like going
Speaker 1: to the DMV.
Speaker 2: Kind of already is, how do we afford well?
Speaker 5: So let's remember healthcare today isn't free. Employers are paying
Speaker 5: for it. Employees are paying for it, people are paying
Speaker 5: the military is paying for it, medical is paying for it.
Speaker 5: It's a big chunk of our federal budget. So the
Speaker 5: real question with single payer is does single payer allow
Speaker 5: us to reduce as an economy, as a society looking
Speaker 5: across all the different people who chip in for healthcare,
Speaker 5: which right now is businesses and workers and the state
Speaker 5: and the federal government is doesn't let us deliver care
Speaker 5: more off.
Speaker 2: And it's still ungodly expensive.
Speaker 1: This is not doable, by the way, not even close
Speaker 1: to being doable. But it's something that she thinks will
Speaker 1: separate her from the others, doesn't let us.
Speaker 5: Deliver care more effectively. Look, Medicare spends only two percent
Speaker 5: of its healthcare money on administrative costs. Private health insurance
Speaker 5: spends seventeen or eighteen percent. So the question is people
Speaker 5: hear that price tag, they're forgetting to add up all
Speaker 5: of what we spend on healthcare right now, it's a
Speaker 5: big reason that employers are struggling. They're spending more and
Speaker 5: more of their budget. Families are spending more of their budgets,
Speaker 5: especially after what Donald Trump's done on healthcare. So the
Speaker 5: question is, does single payer let us drive down the total?
Speaker 1: By the way, this is one thing that AI is
Speaker 1: going to fix in part because a lot of these tasks,
Speaker 1: a lot of these administrative tasks, these repetitive tasks that
Speaker 1: have to be done, pushing paper, entering information, that sort
Speaker 1: of thing that's going to be taken over by the
Speaker 1: computers and the robots.
Speaker 2: Well, we're already seeing that they have robot AI decision
Speaker 2: makers who are denying your coverage.
Speaker 1: At some point in the not too distant future, it's
Speaker 1: going to be robots are going to be the ones
Speaker 1: performing the surgeries.
Speaker 5: The total cost of care and put more of our
Speaker 5: healthcare dollars toward making people healthy and curing illness rather
Speaker 5: than toward pushing paper and denying claim.
Speaker 1: If we do that here away, Wait a minute, Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. Are you
Speaker 1: trying to tell me that she's trying to sell herself
Speaker 1: as the paragon of health.
Speaker 2: She did lose like eighty pounds.
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think that happened naturally or do you think
Speaker 1: that was pharmaceutically induced?
Speaker 2: Do you think she's injecting herself in the tummy with
Speaker 2: an eel every night? Oh, her stomach probably looks like
Speaker 2: a pincushion.
Speaker 5: You can smell it right here.
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? She did say she got a peloton. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she says she has it in the kitchen too.
Speaker 5: Curing illness rather than toward pushing paper and denying claim.
Speaker 4: If we do that here in California, but other states.
Speaker 2: Now, I will say, the other candidate who's pushing single
Speaker 2: payer is Tom Steinle. And for all his billions and
Speaker 2: billions of dollars, have you ever seen a man, and
Speaker 2: we saw him up front in person of that debate,
Speaker 2: who looks more sickly no, he looked like he was
Speaker 2: ready to roll a seven right there in front of us.
Speaker 2: And by the way, let's just say that they move
Speaker 2: forward with us and bankrupt everything to provide single payer healthcare.
Speaker 2: Do you realize what kind of loser magnet that's going
Speaker 2: to be for the rest of the nation.
Speaker 4: If we do that here in California but other states
Speaker 4: don't do that. What's to stop people from coming to
Speaker 4: California taking advantage of our healthcare not necessarily paying into
Speaker 4: the system, and then you know, us all having to
Speaker 4: pay for that.
Speaker 2: And by the way, some of that's already happening. Part
Speaker 2: of the way that we've got into this mess with
Speaker 2: homelessness is that Covered California automatically qualifies you for thirty
Speaker 2: days of rehab the second you step on California soil,
Speaker 2: no matter where you're from. So all these crooked rehab
Speaker 2: centers that operate in Malibu and Orange County, they're advertising
Speaker 2: in Ohio to come out in pet horses and will
Speaker 2: treat your drug problem. And then when the thirty days
Speaker 2: of Covered California runs out, they throw you on the street.
Speaker 1: But this is another one of these things where if
Speaker 1: you're taking the position that it's the high cost of
Speaker 1: housing that is causing people to live on the streets.
Speaker 1: You're not being honest about us taking all the losers
Speaker 1: from Ohio and Vermont and Massachusetts and everywhere else, which
Speaker 1: is exactly what's happening.
Speaker 5: Well, look, everyone will in a single payer system. You
Speaker 5: would have employers making a contribution to it, and you
Speaker 5: would likely have employees making some contribution. The money isn't
Speaker 5: going to fall from the sky elex. It would be
Speaker 5: funded in the same way with Medicare. People pay for Medicare.
Speaker 5: Medicare is not free our seniors. Medicare is a single
Speaker 5: payer system.
Speaker 2: The government, well it's free if you're in the country illegally.
Speaker 5: The government is the payer. But people chip in, they
Speaker 5: have copays, they have deductibles, they have supplements, so it
Speaker 5: would be the same kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Then they have that whole scam they call Medicare advantage,
Speaker 2: so it.
Speaker 5: Would be the same kind of system here. People who
Speaker 5: would come to California will be part of our society
Speaker 5: would be contributing to that single payer system in the
Speaker 5: same way that we have seniors contributing to Medicare, both
Speaker 5: while they're working, but then also when they're seniors using
Speaker 5: that care.
Speaker 4: What do you see as sort of the most important
Speaker 4: thing as we head towards the finish line of this
Speaker 4: race for voters that are now looking at that ballot,
Speaker 4: they haven't been able to decide.
Speaker 2: Which, according to today's numbers is ninety percent of the electorate.
Speaker 1: Especially Democrats, because in twenty twenty two, Democrats turn their
Speaker 1: ballots in at a much higher rate than Republicans, and
Speaker 1: now the opposite is true.
Speaker 2: We're at about fourteen percent of Republicans right now, nine
Speaker 2: percent of Democrats and seven percent of my people the end,
Speaker 2: what's your message to them?
Speaker 5: So? I think voters need to really focus on what
Speaker 5: kind of future do they want California to have. And
Speaker 5: I think that if they want California to just keep
Speaker 5: ongoing exactly the way it has been going, then I
Speaker 5: think that Javier Bessara is that candidate.
Speaker 1: Burn Yeah, she doesn't hate him as much as she
Speaker 1: hates Tom Steyer, but he's getting there. Haadirbasara is the
Speaker 1: status quo candidate for sure, though well he would be
Speaker 1: worse than Newsome because Newsom has presidential aspirations. So even
Speaker 1: though he is buying into a lot of the crazy
Speaker 1: policy proposals that come out of Sacramento. There are still
Speaker 1: limits that he has because he has to get elected
Speaker 1: in places like Pennsylvania and Michigan and Nevada and Arizona.
Speaker 1: If he's going to be the president, if you were
Speaker 1: to put Javier Besserra in there, this is the last
Speaker 1: stop on the subway for him. A career politician who's
Speaker 1: been in California politics forever, who is a complete empty
Speaker 1: suit his entire time. The entire time that he's up there,
Speaker 1: he's going to spend trying to stay out of prison
Speaker 1: because that's where all of his cohorts are, that's where
Speaker 1: all his buddies are who have worked with him in
Speaker 1: politics for years and years and years. So we're going
Speaker 1: to have the California version of Joe Biden in charge
Speaker 1: of government, where you just have the figurehead of the
Speaker 1: coalition who's there, and it's the coalition who's calling the shots. Well,
Speaker 1: if you want to know what government run by committee
Speaker 1: looks like, look at the Biden administration.
Speaker 5: He's been pretty clear.
Speaker 4: I think he's the most like Gavin Newsom No.
Speaker 5: I think he's the most like Sacramento. The most he's
Speaker 5: been a politician for thirty seven years. He's been doing
Speaker 5: this since he was elected. I think the first time
Speaker 5: when I was in high school or.
Speaker 1: College, Accurate started out in the Assembly and.
Speaker 5: I'm as my kids were my me and unk and
Speaker 5: so I think the question is, like, do we want
Speaker 5: to actually tackle some of the biggest challenges we're facing.
Speaker 5: Housing costs is not going to come down and we're
Speaker 5: not going to grow our economy if we don't elect
Speaker 5: a governor who has more bold policies on housing. The
Speaker 5: specifics that I'm offering are different, and look, Tom Steyer
Speaker 5: has been really clear in this race about who he's against, right,
Speaker 5: he's against the big utilities, he's against corporations, he's against billionaires.
Speaker 5: But I think what makes me different is what I'm
Speaker 5: for and what I'm offering to do. So I just
Speaker 5: invite California families think about what it would mean to
Speaker 5: have free healthcare, free healthcare, to have free childcare. Think
Speaker 5: about what it would mean to have a corporate tax
Speaker 5: system where the most profitable corporations paid a little bit
Speaker 5: more and struggling small businesses.
Speaker 2: That's why Gavin says she going to chase all the
Speaker 2: businesses out and he's right. Katie Partter only got about
Speaker 2: a week left to you. Are you gonna miss her? Well,
Speaker 2: of course, what I'm gonna miss is the light of
Speaker 2: the smile on your face. And I tell you we
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Speaker 1: phone lines at two o'clock for candidates who are running
Speaker 1: for office and they want to pitch themselves in front
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Speaker 1: at eight, we may have some decisive results for you,
Speaker 1: or when the polls close at eight, we'll be vamping
Speaker 1: because nothing's going to be decided until three weeks from now.
Speaker 1: So we just heard from candidate for governor, Katie Porter.
Speaker 1: But we also heard on CNN with Alex Michaelson from
Speaker 1: Javier Bessera, who is now the leading Democrat in the race.
Speaker 2: This guy, yep, that not that guy. This guy scrub
Speaker 2: it well.
Speaker 1: If he was naked in the San Fernando Valley, that
Speaker 1: would be quite a scandal.
Speaker 2: Let's hear what Bessarah had to say to Alex Michaelson.
Speaker 4: Javier Besera joins me live right here in Los Angeles,
Speaker 4: mister secretary, welcome back to the story has good to
Speaker 4: see you.
Speaker 6: Good to see you.
Speaker 4: So poles seem to indicate you and Steve Hilton in
Speaker 4: one or two depending on the poll also shows Tom
Speaker 4: Steyer potentially within striking distance. He spent more than two
Speaker 4: hundred million dollars on this campaign.
Speaker 2: How do you see by the way, this is what's great.
Speaker 2: So this interview I think came out Thursday or Friday,
Speaker 2: and the Katie Porter interview came out the day before.
Speaker 2: And in the Katie Porter interview, Alex said that Tom
Speaker 2: Steyer is all almost spent two hundred million dollars. This
Speaker 2: is the next day. Tom Steyer has spent over two
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars, not surprising.
Speaker 4: More than two hundred million dollars on this campaign. How
Speaker 4: do you see the state of this race? And do
Speaker 4: you see it as most likely to be a Republican
Speaker 4: and Democrat in the top two or two Democrats?
Speaker 6: Californias are paying attention.
Speaker 2: No, what evidence is there of that it's a ten
Speaker 2: percent turnout right now six days before the election's over
Speaker 2: ten percent?
Speaker 6: Californias are paying attention.
Speaker 7: And if you if you believe that and believe the polls,
Speaker 7: then I've got the momentum.
Speaker 6: I'm the one that's climbed.
Speaker 7: Most of the other candidates have remained pretty stagnant, even
Speaker 7: Steve Hilton, And so what we're seeing is that now
Speaker 7: I've caught up to Steve Hilton, and if this sticks
Speaker 7: over the next two weeks, it's Steve Hilton versus me
Speaker 7: into the November runoff, which.
Speaker 4: Would be a Republican versus a Democrat. And I'm sure
Speaker 4: Steve Hilton would talk a lot about democratic rule, as
Speaker 4: he talks about over and over again, the Democrats have
Speaker 4: basically run this entire state for the last sixteen years.
Speaker 4: Katie Porter was on with us last night talking about
Speaker 4: who would be the candidate of change.
Speaker 6: Here's what she said about you.
Speaker 5: I think he's the most like Sacramento, the most. He's
Speaker 5: been a politician for thirty seven years. He's been doing
Speaker 5: this since he was elected, I think the first time
Speaker 5: when I was in high school or college.
Speaker 4: So California right now has the look in little elk
Speaker 4: stir in the pot.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: So California right now has the highest poverty rate in
Speaker 4: the country, highest gas prices in the country, the most
Speaker 4: homeless people in the country, and among.
Speaker 2: The we're number one at least in some categories. Well
Speaker 2: in that one we're number two.
Speaker 4: Most affordability issues and it comes to homes in the country.
Speaker 4: Do you think that the Democrats in this state who
Speaker 4: have been in charge of it and the super majority
Speaker 4: are doing a good job.
Speaker 7: We could do better, no doubt, But we are the
Speaker 7: fourth largest economy in the world. We are the place
Speaker 7: where the new economy engines, the industries are coming, tech
Speaker 7: and so forth. We still are the place where people
Speaker 7: want to come visit, whether it's Disneyland or the beaches.
Speaker 6: And what we have to do is.
Speaker 2: Just this answer is embarrassing.
Speaker 1: He went through all the problems facing the state and
Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, we could do better, but we have Disneyland,
Speaker 1: so people are coming here.
Speaker 2: He has no specifics for anything. And this has been
Speaker 2: true since the day he launched his campaign, where all
Speaker 2: he said over and over and over again to then
Speaker 2: Fox eleven's Alex Michaelson was scrub it.
Speaker 1: You know, the more I hear from him, and the
Speaker 1: dumber he is, I'm now starting to believe that it's
Speaker 1: possible that all of those people who work for him
Speaker 1: were just robbing him blind, and he was too dumb
Speaker 1: to realize that he was being rob blind.
Speaker 6: And what we have to do is just make it
Speaker 6: more affordable.
Speaker 7: But people want to come to California, people would like
Speaker 7: to stay in California. We have to make it so
Speaker 7: they can afford it. And that's a big task, but
Speaker 7: we'll work on it.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do it. See he's Katie Potter is right,
Speaker 2: he's the getter done candidate. I'll just do it. How
Speaker 2: are you gonna do it? I just will. He has
Speaker 2: no answers for anything, nothing. This is the front runner and.
Speaker 6: That's a big task, but we'll work on it.
Speaker 4: She's making the argument that essentially things stay status quo
Speaker 4: with you, that you're the Sacramento guy. What changes from
Speaker 4: a policy perspective, what's different with you than what we've seen.
Speaker 6: Over the last four years with Governor Newsom? And we'll
Speaker 6: get things done?
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, it's very possible he's the next governor. Well,
Speaker 2: Democratic voters, is this really acceptable to you? I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not like there aren't some very common sense choices
Speaker 2: out there. Even if you don't want to vote for
Speaker 2: a Steve Hilton, Matt Mayhean is a very common sense guy,
Speaker 2: and he's down at four percent.
Speaker 1: Now you have him, you have Vira Gosa, who are
Speaker 1: answering these questions. Honestly, you have at least two choices
Speaker 1: Democrats where they're willing to be honest about reality. This
Speaker 1: guy doesn't know what reality is.
Speaker 6: We'll get things done. I think you're suggesting he hasn't. No,
Speaker 6: he's done quite a few things.
Speaker 7: But we'll get more things done, and we'll get them
Speaker 7: done a lot faster because the crisis is upon us
Speaker 7: and it takes someone who's actually.
Speaker 6: Had to deal with crises to know how to get
Speaker 6: us out of them.
Speaker 7: And that's one area where whether it was the COVID pandemic,
Speaker 7: whether it's trying to finally decrease prices.
Speaker 2: I love how he tries to shine a light on
Speaker 2: COVID like he was a big success.
Speaker 1: Did you see that Joe Biden was asked if he
Speaker 1: would endorse Javier Bessera and he refused.
Speaker 2: Well, in Joe Biden's defense, he still doesn't know who
Speaker 2: Javier Bessera is.
Speaker 5: For Secretary of Health and Educations, are I nominated Javier Bakaria.
Speaker 1: What's also interesting is that Jerry Brown, who appointed him
Speaker 1: to be attorney general in California, also refused to endorse him.
Speaker 2: They all know how bad this guy is.
Speaker 7: Whether it's trying to finally decrease prices for prescription drugs,
Speaker 7: which I did for the first time by negotiating against
Speaker 7: some of the largest pharmaceutical companies, or whether it was
Speaker 7: taking on the biggest menace that we face in California,
Speaker 7: Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: There we go, of course, Okay, now, now I understand
Speaker 2: why he's surging in the polls.
Speaker 7: I did it as attorney general. It helps to have
Speaker 7: someone who has experienced. Katie Porter can say a lot
Speaker 7: of things, but one thing, I won't need our training
Speaker 7: wills when I walk into the governor's office.
Speaker 4: Flight in terms of a Pacific policy for the state going.
Speaker 2: For Yes, the question was what do you do differently
Speaker 2: good for Elex for bringing him back to.
Speaker 4: It Flight in terms of a Pacific policy for the
Speaker 4: state going forward. You didn't mention any is there a
Speaker 4: specific policy that you would change.
Speaker 2: It's got to be frustrating when you know Elex does
Speaker 2: play it very middle of the road, and he's talked
Speaker 2: to every single candidate. You ask Hilton a question like this,
Speaker 2: you get very specific answers. You asked may Hin a
Speaker 2: question like this or via gos, you get very specific answers.
Speaker 2: You asked this guy, and he has no real answer
Speaker 2: for anything.
Speaker 1: No, because he doesn't have a clue light In terms
Speaker 1: of a Pacific policy for the state going forward, you
Speaker 1: didn't mention any is there. I think he's also too
Speaker 1: dumb to realize that he just got burned.
Speaker 4: Is there a specific policy that you would change that
Speaker 4: we've seen over the last four years or something that
Speaker 4: needs to be done better?
Speaker 6: Better?
Speaker 7: I mean, we are we are one of fifty states,
Speaker 7: but we are the fourth largest economy in the world.
Speaker 2: So you've already said that we're back to that. He's
Speaker 2: got nothing. He is an empty suit.
Speaker 6: The fourth largest economy in the world.
Speaker 2: He has failed up for a very long time, and
Speaker 2: nobody really understands it. He was anonymously in the Congress
Speaker 2: for a very long time, gets plucked to be Attorney
Speaker 2: General even though he did not have an active law degree,
Speaker 2: even though he did not actively practice law in California,
Speaker 2: and then gets plucked into the Biden administration. Nobody can
Speaker 2: understand why.
Speaker 1: Imagine what would happen if he's the governor and we
Speaker 1: had a massive earthquake, or we have fires like the
Speaker 1: one in Paradise and we need someone to be in
Speaker 1: charge to get us through it.
Speaker 2: This is the guy.
Speaker 7: We're going to have the fourth largest economy in the world.
Speaker 7: Something's going on that's not bad. The difficulty is we
Speaker 7: have too many families who aren't seeing the prosperity reach them,
Speaker 7: and we have to do a better job of making
Speaker 7: sure that we keep that engine going, but make sure
Speaker 7: the engine is humming for everyone.
Speaker 6: And so how do we do that?
Speaker 2: I mean, third follow up?
Speaker 1: How many times could you ask the guy the same
Speaker 1: question if you know they don't have the answer.
Speaker 2: Well, but Sarah's lucky that this is cable TV and
Speaker 2: they only have eight minutes before a commercial break. What
Speaker 2: do you think it's life's doing a podcast with him?
Speaker 2: Oh my?
Speaker 6: And so how do we do that?
Speaker 4: I mean, in terms of the affordability issue, which you
Speaker 4: say is issue number one, which voters say is issues
Speaker 4: number one. The rent is too damn high for a
Speaker 4: lot of people, and prices are too damn high for
Speaker 4: a lot of people.
Speaker 6: What changes with you?
Speaker 4: What do you do differently than what we've seen now,
Speaker 4: which is why we have all of those challenges.
Speaker 6: We build more.
Speaker 2: For Heaven's sake, we build more.
Speaker 7: We build more housing so we can reduce that demand
Speaker 7: that causes prices to go up because there aren't enough
Speaker 7: good places to live, and that means everyone's seeking that
Speaker 7: one place and they drive up the price. Build more
Speaker 7: so there's not such a great demand. We also make
Speaker 7: sure that we don't go anywhere near where Donald.
Speaker 6: Trump would like us to go.
Speaker 7: When it comes to healthcare, we don't start kicking people
Speaker 7: off of their healthcare simply because Donald Trump got it
Speaker 7: a trillion dollars out of the healthcare system.
Speaker 2: There is zero policy and zero ideas coming from this
Speaker 2: lifelong politician.
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Speaker 1: Right now, we're going through the sound of candidate for
Speaker 1: Governor Javier Besara sit down interview with ends Alex Michaelson.
Speaker 4: Well, and some of that is a question of what
Speaker 4: to do in terms of healthcare for the undocumented. That's
Speaker 4: been something that Steve Hilton has pointed out. He says
Speaker 4: he wants to take the undocumented off of healthcare roles,
Speaker 4: Why do you want to keep them on there?
Speaker 7: And how much is that going to cost the state?
Speaker 7: Clearly a place where we differ. He looks at them
Speaker 7: as people who don't have documents. I look at them
Speaker 7: as hard workers.
Speaker 1: So now it's offensive to refer to them as undocumented.
Speaker 7: I look at them as people like my parents. I
Speaker 7: am the son of immigrants. To me, I want you
Speaker 7: to build, help me build California. If you're work at hard,
Speaker 7: I want you to have healthcare. I guess Steve Hilton
Speaker 7: doesn't care if they work really hard. He looks at
Speaker 7: their status, and that's the wait.
Speaker 2: Don't we give free health care to people that aren't
Speaker 2: working at all, including the homeless. We give them needles,
Speaker 2: we give them tinfoil, we give them crack pipes, we
Speaker 2: give them all kinds goodies. I guess our system is
Speaker 2: actually incentivizing people to work the least amount is possible,
Speaker 2: because the free healthcare that you get when you're destitute
Speaker 2: is that valuable? Why a third of the states on medical.
Speaker 7: I guess Steve Hilton doesn't care if they work really hard.
Speaker 7: He looks at their status and that's about it.
Speaker 6: Well, He says that they broke the law.
Speaker 4: He says that he immigrated here legally, and that spending
Speaker 4: money to give somebody healthcare is incentivizing bad behavior.
Speaker 7: He doesn't seem to mind that the price of food
Speaker 7: is a little lower because these are the folks who
Speaker 7: are picking the crops.
Speaker 6: He doesn't seem to mind.
Speaker 7: That the places that you can buy to live in
Speaker 7: are places that these folks built.
Speaker 6: He doesn't see.
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is all of the labor in
Speaker 2: this state when it comes to the construction market, is
Speaker 2: built on illegal labor deals. I don't think he's thought
Speaker 2: this through.
Speaker 6: No, he doesn't seem to mind that they're.
Speaker 2: I mean, you could make an argument that the building
Speaker 2: trades unions have made buildings so expensive that the only
Speaker 2: way I contractor can get a project done is by
Speaker 2: hiring people under the table.
Speaker 1: Doesn't he support the policies that require unionization for construction
Speaker 1: crews for certain projects that drives the cost up so
Speaker 1: that people do have to hire illegals.
Speaker 7: He doesn't seem to mind that they're the folks that
Speaker 7: are taking care of probably one of his relatives, probably taking.
Speaker 6: Care of his his yards.
Speaker 7: He seems to mind that they don't have documents, but
Speaker 7: he doesn't seem to mind that they do so much
Speaker 7: to the work in California.
Speaker 6: What's the price tag for healthcare?
Speaker 2: That was the question. Let's get right back to it,
Speaker 2: mister Alex Michaelson with the follow ups, Everybody.
Speaker 1: What's the point this guy working for Joe Biden is
Speaker 1: a guy who cannot answer a question. The story that
Speaker 1: we got from the Biden people is that Biden would
Speaker 1: pepper him with questions when he was Secretary of Health
Speaker 1: and Human Services, and he pulled the same thing with Biden,
Speaker 1: where he had answers to literally nothing, talked in circles
Speaker 1: to the point to where it was obvious to everyone
Speaker 1: in the room that this guy had no clue what
Speaker 1: he was talking about. And Joe Biden, who his wife,
Speaker 1: by the way, just gave an interview with CBS News
Speaker 1: saying she thought he had a stroke when she watched
Speaker 1: that debate with Donald Trump. Joe Biden was like, what
Speaker 1: the hell is this guy's problem? Well, despite all of that,
Speaker 1: Javier Bisera, according to all the latest falls, is the
Speaker 1: front runner in this race. Scrub it that has to
Speaker 1: drive Katie Porter absolutely mad.