WEBVTT - Katie Porter And Xavier Becerra Sit down with Elex Michaelson

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<v Speaker 1>And we continue at two five in the afternoon on

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<v Speaker 1>the John Phillips Show, Mister Randy Wangs in Culver City.

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<v Speaker 2>John Time is running out to get your message out

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<v Speaker 2>for the June primary. So you're seeing a blitz from

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<v Speaker 2>all different candidates trying to get their message out go

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<v Speaker 2>on different places, including places they said they weren't going

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<v Speaker 2>to go. Katie Porter did a whole lot of interviews

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<v Speaker 2>over the weekend Chicken Dinner, and while we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to play you her interview with Alex Michaelson, Johnny, can

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<v Speaker 2>I just play you the first five seconds of her

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<v Speaker 2>interview with Ashley Zavalla.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my, Katie Porter, thank you so much for making

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<v Speaker 3>time for us. I'm excited to be in conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my, what voice was that? Perky housewife, Katie.

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<v Speaker 3>Katie Porter, thank you so much for making time for us.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to be in conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, maybe I'm just kind of old fashioned. Who says

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to be in conversation. I think she was

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<v Speaker 2>just happy that no one was in her f and shot.

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<v Speaker 3>You're out of my shot, Katie Porter, thank you so

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<v Speaker 3>much for making time for us. I'm excited to be

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<v Speaker 3>in conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you she has handlers who have told her

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot look like you're going to hit the person

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<v Speaker 1>who's interviewing you.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was her whole appeal to begin with.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but it blew up in her face like

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<v Speaker 1>a hill billy's rifle. So then they had to do

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<v Speaker 1>a course correction. So now they're trying to sell her

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<v Speaker 1>as being nice. But you can't do it because even

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<v Speaker 1>Stevie Wonder can see the rage that's bubbling up beneath

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<v Speaker 1>the surface with her.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and she's already tried this before. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>Senate campaign where she didn't win. Yeah, no one's buying it.

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<v Speaker 3>Katie Porter, thank you so much for making time for us.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to be in conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. There is a thirty minute interview of Zavala sitting

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<v Speaker 2>down with Porter. I listened to the entire thing while

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<v Speaker 2>walking up and down the Katie Trail in Dallas yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>The Alex interviews a little juicier, but it's only eight minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think we'll start with the Alex one. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>do it. Here is Katie Porter giving her final pitch

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<v Speaker 2>to Alex Michaelson of CNN's The story.

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<v Speaker 4>Is The story is the race for California governor. The

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<v Speaker 4>San Francisco Chronicle has endorsed former Congresswoman Katie Porter, one

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<v Speaker 4>of several newspapers across the state to back her campaign.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, every newspaper with an editorial board that's endorsed

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<v Speaker 4>has backed her. But a new internal poll from the

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<v Speaker 4>California Democrat.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting, they don't like Styer. I guess well, they've

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<v Speaker 2>all had to talk to Bessara, so I can understand

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<v Speaker 2>why they're not getting that endorsement.

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<v Speaker 4>But a new internal poll from the California Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 4>shows that Republican Steve Hilton and Democrats Javey are Butsarah

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<v Speaker 4>and Tom Steyer are the front runners to advance to

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<v Speaker 4>the general election. Former Congresswoman Katie Porter joins us here

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<v Speaker 4>live right now in the studio. Congresswoman, welcome back to

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<v Speaker 4>the story. Is great to have you in person here

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<v Speaker 4>for the first time.

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<v Speaker 5>It's great to be here.

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<v Speaker 4>So how do you see the state of the race.

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<v Speaker 4>We've had this interesting phenomenon where ballots were mailed out

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<v Speaker 4>a couple weeks ago, and yet people are holding on

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<v Speaker 4>to their ballots in a way we've never seen before.

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<v Speaker 1>They're waiting for a May surprise. How many more surprises

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<v Speaker 1>do we need? I mean, wasn't the Eric Swallwell surprise

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<v Speaker 1>enough that practically jumped out?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, and particularly slow among Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't you wait for him to finish asking the question?

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<v Speaker 5>Bellot return is slow, and particularly slow among Democrats. I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's because a lot of people are still making

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<v Speaker 5>up their mind. I think there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>concern a few months ago about whether or not two

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<v Speaker 5>Republicans could get through. That is now not a concern,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think some Democrats are starting to realize, oh, actually,

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<v Speaker 5>we should just get to know the Democratic candidates and

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<v Speaker 5>pick who we think is going to be the best leader.

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<v Speaker 2>And somehow they're picking Besarah.

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<v Speaker 1>That must kill her the fact that she's losing to

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<v Speaker 1>the village idiot, like.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's one thing to lose to Stire because

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<v Speaker 2>he has ungodly amounts of money, But to lose to Besarah,

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<v Speaker 2>who arguably might be the dumbest candidate on that stage, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Valuably what are you talking about? That guy has the

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<v Speaker 1>IQ of an ice cube. In August.

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<v Speaker 5>And they were having a chance now to do.

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<v Speaker 4>That why do you think Javier Bessera has sort of

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<v Speaker 4>rocketed up after the.

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<v Speaker 6>Swallowell dropping out.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't really figure someone's trying to astir the pot.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't really figure that out entirely, but I will

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<v Speaker 5>say that I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, have you met the average California voter?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't know enough to give you any good information,

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<v Speaker 3>but good luck finding someone who does.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the answer. Tom Steyer oversaturated the market with ads

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<v Speaker 1>and people are sick of him, and Katie has the

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<v Speaker 1>personality of an hoa.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I can't really figure that out entirely, but I

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<v Speaker 5>will say that I think the way that we've conducted

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<v Speaker 5>this campaign, focusing on what we would actually do to

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<v Speaker 5>lower costs for families, has been a real contrast to

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<v Speaker 5>what he's talked about. There's a lot of all get

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<v Speaker 5>or done.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of that is besserah be Sarah has no

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<v Speaker 2>specifics to anything. What are you going to do to build?

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<v Speaker 2>We are you going to build? And don't forget he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to scrub it too, Oh, scrub a dub dub.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of all get or done, a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of all have a meeting and I think what we've

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<v Speaker 5>really tried to say is look at your paycheck. Look

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<v Speaker 5>how much is coming out for California's state income taxes.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're earning less than a one hundred thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 5>when I'm governor, you won't have that money gone from

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<v Speaker 5>your paycheck. Talking about saying to people, look at what

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<v Speaker 5>college is going to cost, Imagine being able to raise

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<v Speaker 5>a family here, knowing that you could have free college,

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<v Speaker 5>period full stop. These are real solutions to bring down costs.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that for people who care about the

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<v Speaker 5>future of California, you ought to be looking for concrete,

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<v Speaker 5>real policy solutions, and I think that's what drove those

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<v Speaker 5>newspaper endorsements.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, but the average California voter doesn't care about

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<v Speaker 2>any of that. They like Baker Rhea.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, if you chase out all of

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<v Speaker 1>the wealthy people, which is what Gavid Dusom has been

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<v Speaker 1>telling people that she would do if elected, and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, everyone making under one hundred grand a

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<v Speaker 1>year doesn't have to pay taxes anymore. How are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to afford all of these things?

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<v Speaker 4>And it's interesting that you and Steve Hilton, the Republican

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<v Speaker 4>and the race are both for this tax cut for

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<v Speaker 4>people under one hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it reflects the fact that both of us

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<v Speaker 5>are really focused on not doing the same things that

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<v Speaker 5>Democrats have been doing. I'm a Democrat, Steve's a Republican.

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<v Speaker 5>We are very different on so many issues, including the

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<v Speaker 5>environment and obviously on Donald Trump. But I think what

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<v Speaker 5>we're seeing from a lot of politicians is describing the

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<v Speaker 5>problem of unaffordability. You hear this from Tom Steyr all

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<v Speaker 5>the time. He says, you know, I've heard that California

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<v Speaker 5>is unaffordable.

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<v Speaker 2>She hates him so much, She's not alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think she has one of those voodoo dolls

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<v Speaker 1>of Tom Steyer in her house?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we do know that when this moment happened.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry for the noise, I'm cutting carrots.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when she did that Instagram live video where she

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about all the money that Tom Steyer was

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<v Speaker 2>putting into his own campaign. What do you think she's

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<v Speaker 2>going to do after she loses?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I could see her, I could see her doing

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<v Speaker 1>a political podcast where it's the filthiest thing you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard before in your entire life. Like a dirty club

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<v Speaker 1>comic from the nineteen eighties without the jokes, where it's

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<v Speaker 1>just her raging on other candidates for office in the

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<v Speaker 1>most vulgar terms, imaginable.

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<v Speaker 2>Uncensored with Katie Porter.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh well, we would have to hear it because it's

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<v Speaker 5>not unaffordable for Tom.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think it's a billionaire.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a billionaire and almost two hundred million dollars on

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<v Speaker 4>the camp.

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<v Speaker 5>Making this now the most expensive goodnatorial race in the

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<v Speaker 5>nation's history. But I think what I'm focusing on.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't get a dime of that money. What the hell.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we got any on KSFO either. What

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<v Speaker 2>the hell could have made budgets tire.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think what I'm focusing on is what do

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<v Speaker 5>we do about that problem. I don't need as a

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<v Speaker 5>single mama three kids. I know it's expensive here. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>the one who pushes a shopping.

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<v Speaker 2>Cart there it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, you knew we were going to hear about food.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, you live in taxpayer subsidized housing.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm pulling in to the bakery. I don't need as

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<v Speaker 5>a single mama, three kids. I know it's expensive here.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm the one who pushes a shopping cart. I'm focused

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<v Speaker 5>on and what could we change. What are the levers,

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<v Speaker 5>what are the tools that the governor has to actually

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<v Speaker 5>bring down costs and quickly, because we need to keep

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<v Speaker 5>growing our population, We need to keep adding people to

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<v Speaker 5>our state.

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<v Speaker 6>One of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Biggest costs for do you think when she's pushing that

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<v Speaker 1>grocery cart, I'm assuming it a Ralph's or a Trader

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<v Speaker 1>Joe's in the Irvine area. Do you think she's eating

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<v Speaker 1>grapes while she's pushing the cart and doing the shopping

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<v Speaker 1>so when they weigh them, she has to pay less.

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<v Speaker 1>How about the rotisserie chicken? You think there's any meat

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<v Speaker 1>left on the bones or do you think it's pick

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<v Speaker 1>clean by the time she checks out.

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<v Speaker 5>Winter winter chicking dinner.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the biggest costs for families is healthcare. And

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<v Speaker 4>you have been very clear that you believe in single

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<v Speaker 4>payer healthcare in California. Javier Bessera has not been as

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<v Speaker 4>clear in terms of what he's going to do. That's

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<v Speaker 4>something we got into during the debate on CNN. But

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<v Speaker 4>let's drill down on what single payer healthcare costs, because

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<v Speaker 4>an estimate by UCLA said it would cost over seven

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<v Speaker 4>hundred million dollars, which would make it billion dollars, seven

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<v Speaker 4>hundred billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>For a second, I'm like, wait, that's a pretty good deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought, Oh boy, if it was seven hundred million,

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<v Speaker 1>Gavinan had done it.

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<v Speaker 4>Which would make it three times more expensive than the

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<v Speaker 4>entire state budget right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, the budget got so big, it's only double the

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<v Speaker 2>size of the state budget.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine though, if going to the doctor was like going

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<v Speaker 1>to the DMV.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of already is, how do we afford well?

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<v Speaker 5>So let's remember healthcare today isn't free. Employers are paying

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<v Speaker 5>for it. Employees are paying for it, people are paying

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<v Speaker 5>the military is paying for it, medical is paying for it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a big chunk of our federal budget. So the

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<v Speaker 5>real question with single payer is does single payer allow

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<v Speaker 5>us to reduce as an economy, as a society looking

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<v Speaker 5>across all the different people who chip in for healthcare,

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<v Speaker 5>which right now is businesses and workers and the state

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<v Speaker 5>and the federal government is doesn't let us deliver care

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<v Speaker 5>more off.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's still ungodly expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not doable, by the way, not even close

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<v Speaker 1>to being doable. But it's something that she thinks will

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<v Speaker 1>separate her from the others, doesn't let us.

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<v Speaker 5>Deliver care more effectively. Look, Medicare spends only two percent

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<v Speaker 5>of its healthcare money on administrative costs. Private health insurance

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<v Speaker 5>spends seventeen or eighteen percent. So the question is people

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<v Speaker 5>hear that price tag, they're forgetting to add up all

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<v Speaker 5>of what we spend on healthcare right now, it's a

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<v Speaker 5>big reason that employers are struggling. They're spending more and

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<v Speaker 5>more of their budget. Families are spending more of their budgets,

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<v Speaker 5>especially after what Donald Trump's done on healthcare. So the

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<v Speaker 5>question is, does single payer let us drive down the total?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, this is one thing that AI is

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<v Speaker 1>going to fix in part because a lot of these tasks,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these administrative tasks, these repetitive tasks that

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<v Speaker 1>have to be done, pushing paper, entering information, that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing that's going to be taken over by the

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<v Speaker 1>computers and the robots.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're already seeing that they have robot AI decision

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<v Speaker 2>makers who are denying your coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point in the not too distant future, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be robots are going to be the ones

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<v Speaker 1>performing the surgeries.

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<v Speaker 5>The total cost of care and put more of our

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<v Speaker 5>healthcare dollars toward making people healthy and curing illness rather

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<v Speaker 5>than toward pushing paper and denying claim.

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<v Speaker 1>If we do that here away, Wait a minute, Wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>trying to tell me that she's trying to sell herself

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<v Speaker 1>as the paragon of health.

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<v Speaker 2>She did lose like eighty pounds.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that happened naturally or do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that was pharmaceutically induced?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think she's injecting herself in the tummy with

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<v Speaker 2>an eel every night? Oh, her stomach probably looks like

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<v Speaker 2>a pincushion.

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<v Speaker 5>You can smell it right here.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me? She did say she got a peloton. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she says she has it in the kitchen too.

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<v Speaker 5>Curing illness rather than toward pushing paper and denying claim.

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<v Speaker 4>If we do that here in California, but other states.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I will say, the other candidate who's pushing single

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<v Speaker 2>payer is Tom Steinle. And for all his billions and

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<v Speaker 2>billions of dollars, have you ever seen a man, and

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<v Speaker 2>we saw him up front in person of that debate,

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<v Speaker 2>who looks more sickly no, he looked like he was

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<v Speaker 2>ready to roll a seven right there in front of us.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, let's just say that they move

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<v Speaker 2>forward with us and bankrupt everything to provide single payer healthcare.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you realize what kind of loser magnet that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be for the rest of the nation.

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<v Speaker 4>If we do that here in California but other states

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<v Speaker 4>don't do that. What's to stop people from coming to

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<v Speaker 4>California taking advantage of our healthcare not necessarily paying into

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<v Speaker 4>the system, and then you know, us all having to

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<v Speaker 4>pay for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, some of that's already happening. Part

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<v Speaker 2>of the way that we've got into this mess with

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<v Speaker 2>homelessness is that Covered California automatically qualifies you for thirty

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<v Speaker 2>days of rehab the second you step on California soil,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter where you're from. So all these crooked rehab

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<v Speaker 2>centers that operate in Malibu and Orange County, they're advertising

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<v Speaker 2>in Ohio to come out in pet horses and will

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<v Speaker 2>treat your drug problem. And then when the thirty days

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<v Speaker 2>of Covered California runs out, they throw you on the street.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is another one of these things where if

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<v Speaker 1>you're taking the position that it's the high cost of

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<v Speaker 1>housing that is causing people to live on the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not being honest about us taking all the losers

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<v Speaker 1>from Ohio and Vermont and Massachusetts and everywhere else, which

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly what's happening.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, look, everyone will in a single payer system. You

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<v Speaker 5>would have employers making a contribution to it, and you

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<v Speaker 5>would likely have employees making some contribution. The money isn't

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<v Speaker 5>going to fall from the sky elex. It would be

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<v Speaker 5>funded in the same way with Medicare. People pay for Medicare.

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<v Speaker 5>Medicare is not free our seniors. Medicare is a single

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<v Speaker 5>payer system.

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<v Speaker 2>The government, well it's free if you're in the country illegally.

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<v Speaker 5>The government is the payer. But people chip in, they

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<v Speaker 5>have copays, they have deductibles, they have supplements, so it

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<v Speaker 5>would be the same kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they have that whole scam they call Medicare advantage,

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<v Speaker 2>so it.

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<v Speaker 5>Would be the same kind of system here. People who

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<v Speaker 5>would come to California will be part of our society

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<v Speaker 5>would be contributing to that single payer system in the

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<v Speaker 5>same way that we have seniors contributing to Medicare, both

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<v Speaker 5>while they're working, but then also when they're seniors using

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<v Speaker 5>that care.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you see as sort of the most important

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<v Speaker 4>thing as we head towards the finish line of this

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<v Speaker 4>race for voters that are now looking at that ballot,

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<v Speaker 4>they haven't been able to decide.

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<v Speaker 2>Which, according to today's numbers is ninety percent of the electorate.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially Democrats, because in twenty twenty two, Democrats turn their

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<v Speaker 1>ballots in at a much higher rate than Republicans, and

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<v Speaker 1>now the opposite is true.

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<v Speaker 2>We're at about fourteen percent of Republicans right now, nine

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<v Speaker 2>percent of Democrats and seven percent of my people the end,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your message to them?

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<v Speaker 5>So? I think voters need to really focus on what

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<v Speaker 5>kind of future do they want California to have. And

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<v Speaker 5>I think that if they want California to just keep

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<v Speaker 5>ongoing exactly the way it has been going, then I

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<v Speaker 5>think that Javier Bessara is that candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>Burn Yeah, she doesn't hate him as much as she

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<v Speaker 1>hates Tom Steyer, but he's getting there. Haadirbasara is the

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<v Speaker 1>status quo candidate for sure, though well he would be

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<v Speaker 1>worse than Newsome because Newsom has presidential aspirations. So even

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<v Speaker 1>though he is buying into a lot of the crazy

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<v Speaker 1>policy proposals that come out of Sacramento. There are still

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<v Speaker 1>limits that he has because he has to get elected

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<v Speaker 1>in places like Pennsylvania and Michigan and Nevada and Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>If he's going to be the president, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>to put Javier Besserra in there, this is the last

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<v Speaker 1>stop on the subway for him. A career politician who's

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<v Speaker 1>been in California politics forever, who is a complete empty

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<v Speaker 1>suit his entire time. The entire time that he's up there,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to spend trying to stay out of prison

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<v Speaker 1>because that's where all of his cohorts are, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>all his buddies are who have worked with him in

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<v Speaker 1>politics for years and years and years. So we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have the California version of Joe Biden in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of government, where you just have the figurehead of the

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<v Speaker 1>coalition who's there, and it's the coalition who's calling the shots. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to know what government run by committee

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<v Speaker 1>looks like, look at the Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 5>He's been pretty clear.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's the most like Gavin Newsom No.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's the most like Sacramento. The most he's

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<v Speaker 5>been a politician for thirty seven years. He's been doing

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<v Speaker 5>this since he was elected. I think the first time

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<v Speaker 5>when I was in high school or.

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<v Speaker 1>College, Accurate started out in the Assembly and.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm as my kids were my me and unk and

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<v Speaker 5>so I think the question is, like, do we want

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<v Speaker 5>to actually tackle some of the biggest challenges we're facing.

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<v Speaker 5>Housing costs is not going to come down and we're

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<v Speaker 5>not going to grow our economy if we don't elect

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<v Speaker 5>a governor who has more bold policies on housing. The

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<v Speaker 5>specifics that I'm offering are different, and look, Tom Steyer

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<v Speaker 5>has been really clear in this race about who he's against, right,

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<v Speaker 5>he's against the big utilities, he's against corporations, he's against billionaires.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think what makes me different is what I'm

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<v Speaker 5>for and what I'm offering to do. So I just

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<v Speaker 5>invite California families think about what it would mean to

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<v Speaker 5>have free healthcare, free healthcare, to have free childcare. Think

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<v Speaker 5>about what it would mean to have a corporate tax

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<v Speaker 5>system where the most profitable corporations paid a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>more and struggling small businesses.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why Gavin says she going to chase all the

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<v Speaker 2>businesses out and he's right. Katie Partter only got about

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<v Speaker 2>a week left to you. Are you gonna miss her? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, what I'm gonna miss is the light of

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<v Speaker 2>the smile on your face. And I tell you we

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<v Speaker 2>candidates named Katie Porter in them.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be joined by our buddy Frank Motech on KABC

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<v Speaker 1>and Phil Teresi over at KMJ. When the polls close

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<v Speaker 1>at eight, we may have some decisive results for you,

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<v Speaker 1>or when the polls close at eight, we'll be vamping

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<v Speaker 1>because nothing's going to be decided until three weeks from now.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just heard from candidate for governor, Katie Porter.

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<v Speaker 1>But we also heard on CNN with Alex Michaelson from

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<v Speaker 1>Javier Bessera, who is now the leading Democrat in the race.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy, yep, that not that guy. This guy scrub

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<v Speaker 2>it well.

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<v Speaker 1>If he was naked in the San Fernando Valley, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be quite a scandal.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hear what Bessarah had to say to Alex Michaelson.

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<v Speaker 4>Javier Besera joins me live right here in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 4>mister secretary, welcome back to the story has good to

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<v Speaker 4>see you.

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<v Speaker 6>Good to see you.

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<v Speaker 4>So poles seem to indicate you and Steve Hilton in

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<v Speaker 4>one or two depending on the poll also shows Tom

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<v Speaker 4>Steyer potentially within striking distance. He spent more than two

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<v Speaker 4>hundred million dollars on this campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you see by the way, this is what's great.

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<v Speaker 2>So this interview I think came out Thursday or Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Katie Porter interview came out the day before.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the Katie Porter interview, Alex said that Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Steyer is all almost spent two hundred million dollars. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the next day. Tom Steyer has spent over two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million dollars, not surprising.

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<v Speaker 4>More than two hundred million dollars on this campaign. How

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<v Speaker 4>do you see the state of this race? And do

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<v Speaker 4>you see it as most likely to be a Republican

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<v Speaker 4>and Democrat in the top two or two Democrats?

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<v Speaker 6>Californias are paying attention.

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<v Speaker 2>No, what evidence is there of that it's a ten

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<v Speaker 2>percent turnout right now six days before the election's over

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent?

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<v Speaker 6>Californias are paying attention.

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<v Speaker 7>And if you if you believe that and believe the polls,

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<v Speaker 7>then I've got the momentum.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm the one that's climbed.

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<v Speaker 7>Most of the other candidates have remained pretty stagnant, even

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<v Speaker 7>Steve Hilton, And so what we're seeing is that now

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<v Speaker 7>I've caught up to Steve Hilton, and if this sticks

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<v Speaker 7>over the next two weeks, it's Steve Hilton versus me

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<v Speaker 7>into the November runoff, which.

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<v Speaker 4>Would be a Republican versus a Democrat. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>Steve Hilton would talk a lot about democratic rule, as

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<v Speaker 4>he talks about over and over again, the Democrats have

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<v Speaker 4>basically run this entire state for the last sixteen years.

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<v Speaker 4>Katie Porter was on with us last night talking about

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<v Speaker 4>who would be the candidate of change.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's what she said about you.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's the most like Sacramento, the most. He's

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<v Speaker 5>been a politician for thirty seven years. He's been doing

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<v Speaker 5>this since he was elected, I think the first time

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<v Speaker 5>when I was in high school or college.

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<v Speaker 4>So California right now has the look in little elk

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<v Speaker 4>stir in the pot.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>So California right now has the highest poverty rate in

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<v Speaker 4>the country, highest gas prices in the country, the most

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<v Speaker 4>homeless people in the country, and among.

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<v Speaker 2>The we're number one at least in some categories. Well

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<v Speaker 2>in that one we're number two.

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<v Speaker 4>Most affordability issues and it comes to homes in the country.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that the Democrats in this state who

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<v Speaker 4>have been in charge of it and the super majority

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<v Speaker 4>are doing a good job.

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<v Speaker 7>We could do better, no doubt, But we are the

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<v Speaker 7>fourth largest economy in the world. We are the place

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<v Speaker 7>where the new economy engines, the industries are coming, tech

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<v Speaker 7>and so forth. We still are the place where people

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<v Speaker 7>want to come visit, whether it's Disneyland or the beaches.

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<v Speaker 6>And what we have to do is.

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<v Speaker 2>Just this answer is embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 1>He went through all the problems facing the state and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, yeah, we could do better, but we have Disneyland,

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<v Speaker 1>so people are coming here.

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<v Speaker 2>He has no specifics for anything. And this has been

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<v Speaker 2>true since the day he launched his campaign, where all

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 2>he said over and over and over again to then

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<v Speaker 2>Fox eleven's Alex Michaelson was scrub it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the more I hear from him, and the

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<v Speaker 1>dumber he is, I'm now starting to believe that it's

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<v Speaker 1>possible that all of those people who work for him

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<v Speaker 1>were just robbing him blind, and he was too dumb

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<v Speaker 1>to realize that he was being rob blind.

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<v Speaker 6>And what we have to do is just make it

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<v Speaker 6>more affordable.

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<v Speaker 7>But people want to come to California, people would like

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:21.679
<v Speaker 7>to stay in California. We have to make it so

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<v Speaker 7>they can afford it. And that's a big task, but

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<v Speaker 7>we'll work on it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna do it. See he's Katie Potter is right,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the getter done candidate. I'll just do it. How

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<v Speaker 2>are you gonna do it? I just will. He has

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<v Speaker 2>no answers for anything, nothing. This is the front runner and.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a big task, but we'll work on it.

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<v Speaker 4>She's making the argument that essentially things stay status quo

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<v Speaker 4>with you, that you're the Sacramento guy. What changes from

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<v Speaker 4>a policy perspective, what's different with you than what we've seen.

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<v Speaker 6>Over the last four years with Governor Newsom? And we'll

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<v Speaker 6>get things done?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, come on, it's very possible he's the next governor. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic voters, is this really acceptable to you? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like there aren't some very common sense choices

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<v Speaker 2>out there. Even if you don't want to vote for

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 2>a Steve Hilton, Matt Mayhean is a very common sense guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's down at four percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you have him, you have Vira Gosa, who are

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<v Speaker 1>answering these questions. Honestly, you have at least two choices

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Democrats where they're willing to be honest about reality. This

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>guy doesn't know what reality is.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll get things done. I think you're suggesting he hasn't. No,

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 6>he's done quite a few things.

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<v Speaker 7>But we'll get more things done, and we'll get them

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<v Speaker 7>done a lot faster because the crisis is upon us

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 7>and it takes someone who's actually.

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<v Speaker 6>Had to deal with crises to know how to get

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<v Speaker 6>us out of them.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's one area where whether it was the COVID pandemic,

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<v Speaker 7>whether it's trying to finally decrease prices.

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<v Speaker 2>I love how he tries to shine a light on

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 2>COVID like he was a big success.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see that Joe Biden was asked if he

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<v Speaker 1>would endorse Javier Bessera and he refused.

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, in Joe Biden's defense, he still doesn't know who

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Javier Bessera is.

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<v Speaker 5>For Secretary of Health and Educations, are I nominated Javier Bakaria.

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<v Speaker 1>What's also interesting is that Jerry Brown, who appointed him

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<v Speaker 1>to be attorney general in California, also refused to endorse him.

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<v Speaker 2>They all know how bad this guy is.

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<v Speaker 7>Whether it's trying to finally decrease prices for prescription drugs,

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<v Speaker 7>which I did for the first time by negotiating against

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<v Speaker 7>some of the largest pharmaceutical companies, or whether it was

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<v Speaker 7>taking on the biggest menace that we face in California,

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<v Speaker 7>Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go, of course, Okay, now, now I understand

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<v Speaker 2>why he's surging in the polls.

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<v Speaker 7>I did it as attorney general. It helps to have

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 7>someone who has experienced. Katie Porter can say a lot

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 7>of things, but one thing, I won't need our training

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 7>wills when I walk into the governor's office.

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<v Speaker 4>Flight in terms of a Pacific policy for the state going.

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<v Speaker 2>For Yes, the question was what do you do differently

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<v Speaker 2>good for Elex for bringing him back to.

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<v Speaker 4>It Flight in terms of a Pacific policy for the

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 4>state going forward. You didn't mention any is there a

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 4>specific policy that you would change.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got to be frustrating when you know Elex does

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<v Speaker 2>play it very middle of the road, and he's talked

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<v Speaker 2>to every single candidate. You ask Hilton a question like this,

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 2>you get very specific answers. You asked may Hin a

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 2>question like this or via gos, you get very specific answers.

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 2>You asked this guy, and he has no real answer

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<v Speaker 2>for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because he doesn't have a clue light In terms

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>of a Pacific policy for the state going forward, you

0:30:55.040 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't mention any is there. I think he's also too

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>dumb to realize that he just got burned.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there a specific policy that you would change that

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen over the last four years or something that

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<v Speaker 4>needs to be done better?

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<v Speaker 6>Better?

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, we are we are one of fifty states,

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<v Speaker 7>but we are the fourth largest economy in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've already said that we're back to that. He's

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 2>got nothing. He is an empty suit.

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 6>The fourth largest economy in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>He has failed up for a very long time, and

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 2>nobody really understands it. He was anonymously in the Congress

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 2>for a very long time, gets plucked to be Attorney

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 2>General even though he did not have an active law degree,

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 2>even though he did not actively practice law in California,

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<v Speaker 2>and then gets plucked into the Biden administration. Nobody can

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 2>understand why.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine what would happen if he's the governor and we

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<v Speaker 1>had a massive earthquake, or we have fires like the

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>one in Paradise and we need someone to be in

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:04.959
<v Speaker 1>charge to get us through it.

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 2>This is the guy.

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<v Speaker 7>We're going to have the fourth largest economy in the world.

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<v Speaker 7>Something's going on that's not bad. The difficulty is we

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<v Speaker 7>have too many families who aren't seeing the prosperity reach them,

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<v Speaker 7>and we have to do a better job of making

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 7>sure that we keep that engine going, but make sure

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 7>the engine is humming for everyone.

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<v Speaker 6>And so how do we do that?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, third follow up?

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<v Speaker 1>How many times could you ask the guy the same

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<v Speaker 1>question if you know they don't have the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but Sarah's lucky that this is cable TV and

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 2>they only have eight minutes before a commercial break. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think it's life's doing a podcast with him?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my?

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<v Speaker 6>And so how do we do that?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, in terms of the affordability issue, which you

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 4>say is issue number one, which voters say is issues

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 4>number one. The rent is too damn high for a

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 4>lot of people, and prices are too damn high for

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 6>What changes with you?

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<v Speaker 4>What do you do differently than what we've seen now,

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<v Speaker 4>which is why we have all of those challenges.

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<v Speaker 6>We build more.

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<v Speaker 2>For Heaven's sake, we build more.

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<v Speaker 7>We build more housing so we can reduce that demand

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 7>that causes prices to go up because there aren't enough

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 7>good places to live, and that means everyone's seeking that

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 7>one place and they drive up the price. Build more

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 7>so there's not such a great demand. We also make

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<v Speaker 7>sure that we don't go anywhere near where Donald.

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<v Speaker 6>Trump would like us to go.

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<v Speaker 7>When it comes to healthcare, we don't start kicking people

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<v Speaker 7>off of their healthcare simply because Donald Trump got it

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<v Speaker 7>a trillion dollars out of the healthcare system.

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<v Speaker 2>There is zero policy and zero ideas coming from this

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<v Speaker 2>lifelong politician.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred two two five two two two is telephone number.

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<v Speaker 1>If you'd like to email the show, you can do

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<v Speaker 1>so at Johnny Don't like show at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, we're going through the sound of candidate for

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Javier Besara sit down interview with ends Alex Michaelson.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and some of that is a question of what

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<v Speaker 4>to do in terms of healthcare for the undocumented. That's

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 4>been something that Steve Hilton has pointed out. He says

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 4>he wants to take the undocumented off of healthcare roles,

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<v Speaker 4>Why do you want to keep them on there?

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<v Speaker 7>And how much is that going to cost the state?

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<v Speaker 7>Clearly a place where we differ. He looks at them

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<v Speaker 7>as people who don't have documents. I look at them

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<v Speaker 7>as hard workers.

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<v Speaker 1>So now it's offensive to refer to them as undocumented.

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<v Speaker 7>I look at them as people like my parents. I

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 7>am the son of immigrants. To me, I want you

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:37.399
<v Speaker 7>to build, help me build California. If you're work at hard,

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 7>I want you to have healthcare. I guess Steve Hilton

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 7>doesn't care if they work really hard. He looks at

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:43.879
<v Speaker 7>their status, and that's the wait.

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Don't we give free health care to people that aren't

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 2>working at all, including the homeless. We give them needles,

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 2>we give them tinfoil, we give them crack pipes, we

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 2>give them all kinds goodies. I guess our system is

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:01.320
<v Speaker 2>actually incentivizing people to work the least amount is possible,

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 2>because the free healthcare that you get when you're destitute

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 2>is that valuable? Why a third of the states on medical.

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 7>I guess Steve Hilton doesn't care if they work really hard.

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 7>He looks at their status and that's about it.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, He says that they broke the law.

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 4>He says that he immigrated here legally, and that spending

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 4>money to give somebody healthcare is incentivizing bad behavior.

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<v Speaker 7>He doesn't seem to mind that the price of food

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 7>is a little lower because these are the folks who

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 7>are picking the crops.

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 6>He doesn't seem to mind.

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 7>That the places that you can buy to live in

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:34.320
<v Speaker 7>are places that these folks built.

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<v Speaker 6>He doesn't see.

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<v Speaker 2>So what you're saying is all of the labor in

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 2>this state when it comes to the construction market, is

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:45.800
<v Speaker 2>built on illegal labor deals. I don't think he's thought

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 2>this through.

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 6>No, he doesn't seem to mind that they're.

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you could make an argument that the building

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 2>trades unions have made buildings so expensive that the only

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 2>way I contractor can get a project done is by

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 2>hiring people under the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't he support the policies that require unionization for construction

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>crews for certain projects that drives the cost up so

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>that people do have to hire illegals.

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 7>He doesn't seem to mind that they're the folks that

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 7>are taking care of probably one of his relatives, probably taking.

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<v Speaker 6>Care of his his yards.

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<v Speaker 7>He seems to mind that they don't have documents, but

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<v Speaker 7>he doesn't seem to mind that they do so much

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<v Speaker 7>to the work in California.

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<v Speaker 6>What's the price tag for healthcare?

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<v Speaker 2>That was the question. Let's get right back to it,

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<v Speaker 2>mister Alex Michaelson with the follow ups, Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the point this guy working for Joe Biden is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who cannot answer a question. The story that

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<v Speaker 1>we got from the Biden people is that Biden would

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<v Speaker 1>pepper him with questions when he was Secretary of Health

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<v Speaker 1>and Human Services, and he pulled the same thing with Biden,

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<v Speaker 1>where he had answers to literally nothing, talked in circles

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<v Speaker 1>to the point to where it was obvious to everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in the room that this guy had no clue what

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about. And Joe Biden, who his wife,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, just gave an interview with CBS News

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<v Speaker 1>saying she thought he had a stroke when she watched

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<v Speaker 1>that debate with Donald Trump. Joe Biden was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell is this guy's problem? Well, despite all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>Javier Bisera, according to all the latest falls, is the

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<v Speaker 1>front runner in this race. Scrub it that has to

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<v Speaker 1>drive Katie Porter absolutely mad.