Speaker 1: John, we have our final update in the poll commissioned
Speaker 1: by the California Democratic Party. This was the poll that
Speaker 1: was commissioned to get all of the lower polling candidates
Speaker 1: to drop out. The only one that took them up
Speaker 1: on that was Ian Calderon and then he endorsed Swallowell,
Speaker 1: so that didn't work out very well. But here we
Speaker 1: go the fourth tracker. This poll started in March seventeenth,
Speaker 1: and now they finally have the last time. They will
Speaker 1: be updating this in May sixteenth. And in first place
Speaker 1: with twenty two percent of the vote it is Steve Hilton,
Speaker 1: followed very closely in second place with twenty one percent
Speaker 1: Javier bach Area.
Speaker 2: And then you have Tom Steyer and Chad Bianco. Correct.
Speaker 1: Yes, but here's what's interesting. When you compare to the
Speaker 1: last poll, which was early May. Hilton had a four
Speaker 1: point bump, Bessarah had a three point bump. Steyer had
Speaker 1: a three point bump. He's now at fifteen. Bianco had
Speaker 1: a four point drop and he's been consistent at fourteen
Speaker 1: the entire time.
Speaker 2: Okay, so if you add up the support of both
Speaker 2: Republican candidates, what number do you get?
Speaker 3: You get thirty two.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's why I think that poll is off. Polling
Speaker 2: is based on modeling in terms of who you think
Speaker 2: is going to turn out and vote, who is the
Speaker 2: voting electorate, And you base that decision on a bunch
Speaker 2: of different factors. First and foremost, you look at past
Speaker 2: performance in the past, what did the electorate look like?
Speaker 2: And then you also ask voters themselves. You asked a voter,
Speaker 2: are you extremely likely to vote? Are you likely to vote?
Speaker 2: Do you think you may not vote? Those sorts of things,
Speaker 2: and they tell you, and then you ask them questions
Speaker 2: like have you voted in the last election, have you
Speaker 2: voted in three out of the last four elections? Those
Speaker 2: sorts of things, and you add it all up and
Speaker 2: you figure out just exactly who you think is going
Speaker 2: to vote. Well, if they have the Republican slice of
Speaker 2: the pie at thirty two percent, that is out of
Speaker 2: line with what we've seen in the past, because if
Speaker 2: you go back to twenty eighteen, that's when Newsom ran
Speaker 2: against John Cox, John Cox who was essentially a warm body,
Speaker 2: not even really campaigning aggressively, and every time he would
Speaker 2: go out and campaign, I think the guy lost votes.
Speaker 2: He ended up at thirty eight percent of the vote,
Speaker 2: six points higher than what this poll is saying. In
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, it was Newsom versus Brian Dolly. Brian
Speaker 2: Dolly did a better job than John Cox, but not much.
Speaker 2: He really didn't raise any money, he wasn't up on TV,
Speaker 2: Knwsom at that point was almost universally known, and he
Speaker 2: still did better. He did forty one percent. That was
Speaker 2: the slice of the pie for Republicans. That was nine
Speaker 2: points higher than what this poll is showing. And then
Speaker 2: you look at ballots that have been returned so far
Speaker 2: in California, and Republicans are turning their ballots in at
Speaker 2: a better rate than they did four years ago. In fact,
Speaker 2: even though we're a heavily democratic state. So far, of
Speaker 2: the ballots that have been collected, forty one percent of
Speaker 2: them belonged to Democrats, thirty seven percent belonged to Republicans,
Speaker 2: and twenty two percent belonged to no party preference or
Speaker 2: third party voters, which means Republicans are overperforming the slice
Speaker 2: of the pie just from the ballots that have already
Speaker 2: been turned in. So I think Hilton will likely do
Speaker 2: better than what that poll reflects, And I think that
Speaker 2: Bianco will likely do better than what that poll reflects.
Speaker 2: That being said, maybe the pollsters have it right, maybe
Speaker 2: I have it wrong. I don't know, but based on
Speaker 2: all the evidence I've seen, I think thirty two percent
Speaker 2: is awful low.
Speaker 1: Now when you go further down below the ten percent
Speaker 1: they have for Bianco coming in in first, second, third, fourth,
Speaker 1: fifth place is Johnny's girl kt Porter at seven percent.
Speaker 4: Well, that may be it.
Speaker 1: She started at ten, she dipped to seven, then she
Speaker 1: went to ten, dipped to eight, and dipped again to seven,
Speaker 1: So the debates haven't really done well for her. Matt
Speaker 1: Mayhan is also an interesting story. Matt Mayhan, who got
Speaker 1: into this race very late, started at three, then went
Speaker 1: up to four, then went up to five, then went
Speaker 1: up to seven, and now he's back at four.
Speaker 2: Which is funny because if you look at the performance
Speaker 2: and the debates, he has probably had the best performance
Speaker 2: out of.
Speaker 4: All of them.
Speaker 1: It depends what you want out of those debates. But yes,
Speaker 1: Matt Mayhan has had a very strong performance. But what
Speaker 1: are people actually voting for. If they're voting for competence
Speaker 1: in government, Mayhen would be polling more than four percent.
Speaker 2: And I just don't think well, first of all, I
Speaker 2: think Republicans are voting for Republicans, Democrats are voting for Democrats,
Speaker 2: and his message appeals to Republicans who aren't going to
Speaker 2: vote for him anyway. And there's no one in the
Speaker 2: Democratic Party who cares about any of the stuff that
Speaker 2: he's talking about.
Speaker 1: When it comes to the former mayor of Los Aenne,
Speaker 1: Jelius Antonio Viaregosa, he went from a three to a
Speaker 1: four to a two to a two.
Speaker 3: To a one.
Speaker 4: Boy, the bottom just fell out for him.
Speaker 3: Tony Thurman went from a one to less than a
Speaker 3: one to a one to a one to a one.
Speaker 4: You're number one.
Speaker 1: But of course, the one trend that everyone's holding on to,
Speaker 1: and it's true with this poll as it has been
Speaker 1: with many other polls, the Bakaia bump seems to be
Speaker 1: here to stay. On March seventeenth, Javier Bessera had three percent,
Speaker 1: and this is a tracker poll, so they pulled the
Speaker 1: same people over and over again. He started three, then four,
Speaker 1: then thirteen, then eighteen, then twenty one, and this is
Speaker 1: May sixteenth, So I think that would mean that this
Speaker 1: is after the interview on KTLA, which has not damaged
Speaker 1: him significantly.
Speaker 3: By the way, this is a profile piece. This is
Speaker 3: not a gotcha piece.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: You know who has to be the maddest person in
Speaker 2: the world is Katie Porter Because her losing her temper
Speaker 2: with a reporter and a staffer knocked her out of
Speaker 2: this race, and him doing the same thing had no impact.
Speaker 1: You're out of my shot, poor Katie. What are you
Speaker 1: gonna do, Johnny? In two weeks, She's gonna be completely irrelevant.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm telling you, She's going to run for
Speaker 1: something else. It's gonna be a while, though. She is
Speaker 1: going to spend the rest of her life running for office. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: as all of this is happening, Tom Steyer has been
Speaker 1: accused of buying off online social media influencers to support
Speaker 1: his campaign. If you're wondering why your favorite TikToker is
Speaker 1: all in for Stier, it's because he was paid to
Speaker 1: be and they're not disclosing it. For more on this,
Speaker 1: we go to ABC ten in Sacramento.
Speaker 6: Tonight, the California Fair Political Practices Commission confirms Democratic gubernatorial
Speaker 6: candidate Tom Styer's campaign is under investigation. The stire campaign
Speaker 6: faces allegations of failing to properly disclose payments for campaign
Speaker 6: related social media content. Take a look at this video
Speaker 6: is in question. It features influencer Isaiah Washington, known as Zadante,
Speaker 6: who has been paid ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Zay Dante is all in for Styre. Have you ever
Speaker 3: heard of Zaidani?
Speaker 1: I have not known as Zadante who, To be fair,
Speaker 1: I don't think zay Dante has ever heard of us.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of famous people now.
Speaker 6: Known people known as Zadante, who has been paid ten
Speaker 6: thousand dollars by the stire campaign, per campaign filing records.
Speaker 1: In it.
Speaker 6: Washington, who is also named in the FPPC complaint for
Speaker 6: not disclosing he was paid, features an interview with Styre
Speaker 6: discussing campaign points.
Speaker 2: You don't pay to do an interview. So how does
Speaker 2: this work? Does a Dante cover California politics? Or is
Speaker 2: this just an influencer that talks about other subjects and
Speaker 2: now he's going totally out of character to weigh in
Speaker 2: on state politics.
Speaker 3: How do you think you spell ze Dante?
Speaker 4: I have no clue.
Speaker 1: Let's just try Za Dante now, zydn Okay I found him,
Speaker 1: Za Dante, z Ay Why Dante This guy has got
Speaker 1: one point eight million followers on the tiktoks, and his
Speaker 1: latest tiktoks are listening to Drake's new album.
Speaker 4: So it's a music influencer.
Speaker 1: I think he's a whatever's popular influencer. Oh he has
Speaker 1: reaction shots to watching the roast of Kevin Hart, listening
Speaker 1: to Tea. Most of these videos are him listening to
Speaker 1: rap songs and how he feels about it. One of
Speaker 1: them is reacting to an episode of The Boys. None
Speaker 1: of this has anything to do with Tom Steyer. None
Speaker 1: of it has to do with what's going on in
Speaker 1: California politics. He reviews the latest episode of Euphoria. So
Speaker 1: when this guy all of a sudden breaks from his
Speaker 1: usual habits to interview Tom Steyer, Yeah, that would raise
Speaker 1: a red flagger ten you think now?
Speaker 6: The Instagram video is disclosed as a paid partnership, though
Speaker 6: the now deleted TikTok version failed to provide that disclosure.
Speaker 6: It's not clear if the disclaimer was added after the
Speaker 6: FPPC complaint, and Washington did not respond to request.
Speaker 3: For Poor Tom Steyer. He has to pay people to
Speaker 3: talk to him.
Speaker 4: He's a seventy year old billionaire.
Speaker 2: Who apparently is being talked about NonStop by the rap crowd.
Speaker 6: And Washington did not respond to request for comment on Monday.
Speaker 6: Maybe it's some political reporter. Jenny Huh didn't speak with
Speaker 6: Styer today though, here's what he had to say.
Speaker 5: So just to be clear, Tom, you don't pay anyone
Speaker 5: for endorsements, correct, content creator wise, No, Absolutely, what do
Speaker 5: you pay them for?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? We pay them for their time.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me explain how this works in the world
Speaker 2: of news. Let's just take politics out of it for
Speaker 2: a second. In the world of news, everyone looks down
Speaker 2: their nose at the tabloids because the tabloids pay for stories.
Speaker 2: The National Inquirer will pay you for a story if
Speaker 2: you have something that they think is if interest to
Speaker 2: their readers. TMZ will pay you for a story if
Speaker 2: you have a photograph or a video or information that
Speaker 2: would be of interest to their readers. That's how that works.
Speaker 2: Then you take the other shows, then you take the
Speaker 2: other publications, and they go, we are professional journalists, we
Speaker 2: have graduate degrees. We don't pay for stories. We don't
Speaker 2: pay our sources. But here's how they get around it.
Speaker 2: Let's say that you are in the middle of some
Speaker 2: kind of tabloid story and the Today Show wants you
Speaker 2: on the couch with Savannah.
Speaker 4: They can't quote unquote pay you for the story.
Speaker 2: But what they do is they fly you first class,
Speaker 2: they put you up at the Waldorf Astoria, and they
Speaker 2: pay you to license your photographs that they will use
Speaker 2: in the piece, and whatever it is that you gotiate
Speaker 2: as the price of those photographs is what they're.
Speaker 4: Willing to pay you, so you can then show up
Speaker 4: on their.
Speaker 2: Airwaves and talk about the story with the photographs running
Speaker 2: his b rule. That's how they get around it. What
Speaker 2: Tom Steyer is doing is he's doing the political equivalent
Speaker 2: of that. I'm not paying Za Dante for his endorsement.
Speaker 2: I'm paying him for his time.
Speaker 1: This is the same kind of semantics that people say
Speaker 1: with prostitutes. I didn't pay her for sex. I paid
Speaker 1: her to leave.
Speaker 4: And a couple of things she did before she left.
Speaker 7: Say we are complete.
Speaker 4: That means that we pay them.
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe he is a cheap skate because he has
Speaker 3: worse Internet than you.
Speaker 4: That means that we pay them for doing work. They
Speaker 4: choose what to do. They endorse us because they believe
Speaker 4: in our platform or they don't endorse us.
Speaker 3: You have no way in on them. Did Dante and
Speaker 3: endorse you?
Speaker 2: I'm sure say Dante follows California politics very closely.
Speaker 4: You have no way in on the content. They are
Speaker 4: independent businesses, independent small businesses. We pay them for their time.
Speaker 4: They do whatever they want to do.
Speaker 1: Yes, but shouldn't you have to disclose that? This is
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, whenever you're watching the local news.
Speaker 1: I have KTLA up right here, and every once in
Speaker 1: a while they'll deviate from the regular local news to
Speaker 1: like be like, check out this new restaurant that's opening,
Speaker 1: and in the little corner you can see sponsored content.
Speaker 3: You should be able to disclose that in those two.
Speaker 6: In twenty twenty three, California passed a law mandating content
Speaker 6: creators to disclose if they have been paid by a
Speaker 6: campaign or political committee. One Leg's out of analyst tells
Speaker 6: us at ABC ten that this investigation could determine how
Speaker 6: strictly the law will be enforced. Steyer maintains that his
Speaker 6: campaign has been trans parent and disclosing.
Speaker 1: By the way, it'll be really funny if what the
Speaker 1: FPPC decides to do is hand Tom Styra a fine,
Speaker 1: It's wild how often this happens, though, you remember a story.
Speaker 2: And I'm not going to go through any of the
Speaker 2: names because I don't want any of them to come
Speaker 2: after me. But there were foreign governments who were buying
Speaker 2: online social media influencers to tweet about their country or
Speaker 2: to post content about their country, because they, in this
Speaker 2: particular case, were conservative influencers, and these foreign countries believed
Speaker 2: that they might influence the administration by tweeting about their countries.
Speaker 3: Oh, I remember all that.
Speaker 6: He has paid Washington and multiple other influencers thousands of dollars.
Speaker 6: The two individuals who filed the complaint also content creators,
Speaker 6: argue that it's up to the stire campaign to explicitly
Speaker 6: tell influencers that they must disclosed payments. They say they
Speaker 6: noticed issues in multiple videos post tier content.
Speaker 8: It was all very pro styre, anti Bessera. They were
Speaker 8: not disclosing on posts that they made about Tom Steyer,
Speaker 8: and they were completely they were wait, you.
Speaker 3: Can get paid to bag on Bessara.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, you can get paid a lot of
Speaker 4: money to do that.
Speaker 8: And they were completely they were ignoring.
Speaker 2: Think were working cheap, Johnny, Oh, we're working very cheap
Speaker 2: compared to what these people are getting, and.
Speaker 8: They were completely they were ignoring the law, the political
Speaker 8: reform Active count.
Speaker 6: Now the two content creators are Javier Besara supporters, which
Speaker 6: Stier has questioned. They say that they're support.
Speaker 2: FORUL So how much was Besarah giving them? Oh, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if he's doing the same thing.
Speaker 6: They say that their support for Visara is independent from
Speaker 6: their complaint against Democratic opponent Tom Steyer, and that they
Speaker 6: are not paid by Bessara's team to post pro bossera content.
Speaker 4: You know what's funny.
Speaker 2: And this is another one of these quirks where we're
Speaker 2: governed by the FCC because we're on the radio waves,
Speaker 2: we're on the AAM band. We have to take courses
Speaker 2: in payola to understand what is legal and what is
Speaker 2: not in this industry. If you were on the take
Speaker 2: and you're promoting a band or you're promoting a product
Speaker 2: or whatever, and you're not disclosing that they're paying you
Speaker 2: to say that, you can get in big trouble. You
Speaker 2: can put the broadcast license in jeopardy. Typically, and this
Speaker 2: is something that used to happen a lot in the
Speaker 2: old days on the FM band. What would happen is
Speaker 2: the record labels would go to the DJs or the
Speaker 2: program directors and they would give them suitcases full of
Speaker 2: cash to play whatever songs it was that they wanted
Speaker 2: played on the radio, so they would make more money
Speaker 2: with the record sales.
Speaker 1: Well, in the eighties it was more than cash. Sometimes
Speaker 1: they'd give you the record with a pound of cocaine
Speaker 1: on it. You want to know why certain songs got
Speaker 1: to number one?
Speaker 3: That's how.
Speaker 4: All right? So that's the latest in the governor's race.
Speaker 4: Who are you voting for? For governor?
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Speaker 2: All right, the ballots are in the mail. Voting is
Speaker 2: happening right now as we speak. Who are you voting for?
Speaker 1: For?
Speaker 2: California Governor. Let's go to the phones and welcome Jonathan
Speaker 2: in Porter Ranch.
Speaker 9: Jonathan, Hello, Hi, good afternoon, guys.
Speaker 4: Hi.
Speaker 9: I'm definitely voting for Steve Hilton one hundred percent because
Speaker 9: he said he's going to deport everyone here legally, which
Speaker 9: is extremely important because I graduated high school two thousand
Speaker 9: and eight. My whole adult life been looking for like
Speaker 9: retail jobs filled with idiots, people who can't count currency,
Speaker 9: they don't know how to tell analog times. It's pretty
Speaker 9: stupid out there. So Steve Hilton one hundred percent and
Speaker 9: Pratt is where it's at, all.
Speaker 4: Right, thank you for the call, Sar. Let's go to
Speaker 4: Mike in Hawthorne.
Speaker 7: Mike, Hello, Hey, hey, John, how are you doing. I'm
Speaker 7: doing what you said, I'm voting for Bianco.
Speaker 2: And you're doing it because you want you want the
Speaker 2: Republicans to be in the top two positions.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, yeah, I think that's the way to do. I
Speaker 7: think it's a great strategy.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, and this is the question that every
Speaker 2: Republican voter in particular in the state has to ask themselves.
Speaker 2: If you think in the general election it is possible
Speaker 2: for the Republican candidate to get over fifty percent, then
Speaker 2: that's fine. Then you can go for a Republican versus
Speaker 2: a Democratic matchup. However, if you think the likely scenario
Speaker 2: is that the Republican candidate will do better than forty
Speaker 2: one percent but can't get over fifty, then you need
Speaker 2: to go for the top two. And I think the
Speaker 2: likely scenario is the Republican candidate will do better than
Speaker 2: what they did in twenty twenty two, but not get
Speaker 2: over fifty percent, in which case your only play is
Speaker 2: the top two.
Speaker 7: Good call.
Speaker 4: All right, thank you for the call, Sirt. You know
Speaker 4: what it reminds me of.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of twenty eighteen when the Democrats in
Speaker 2: California won a bunch of congressional districts. That's when Katie
Speaker 2: Porter won in Irvine. That's when Katie Hill won in Lancaster.
Speaker 2: That's when a lot of these candidates, these Democratic candidates
Speaker 2: were able to beat longtime Republican incumbents.
Speaker 4: How did they do that well in that election?
Speaker 2: Ballot harvesting made the difference in a number of those
Speaker 2: races because the laws had changed and they realized that
Speaker 2: any district, let's say, with a big university gave them
Speaker 2: an opportunity to harvest ballots, and that was the reason
Speaker 2: that Katie Porter beat Mimi Walters in Orange County. You see,
Speaker 2: Irvine was in that day, and they harvested a bunch
Speaker 2: of ballots at UC Irvine and that was the margin
Speaker 2: of victory for Katie Porter over Mimi Walters. And Republicans
Speaker 2: screamed and yelled about all the ballot harvesting and the
Speaker 2: voter fraud and all of that. But the problem for
Speaker 2: Republicans back then was that the Democrats had changed the
Speaker 2: rules so instead of the ballot harvesting being illegal, it
Speaker 2: was perfectly legal. And they just exploited something in the
Speaker 2: law that benefited them and they were able to knock
Speaker 2: out a bunch of longtime Republican incumbents because of it.
Speaker 2: They knew the rules better than the Republicans and they
Speaker 2: used their knowledge and this quirk in the law to
Speaker 2: be able to benefit. Right now, we have a situation
Speaker 2: where Republicans can get into the low forties. Probably, I
Speaker 2: would say the Republican candidate, if it's an R versus
Speaker 2: a D, will do somewhere between forty one and forty
Speaker 2: four percent, let's say.
Speaker 4: But they're not going to get over fifty.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a quirk in the law with this top
Speaker 2: two primary where you can win the election with only
Speaker 2: forty one, forty two, forty three, forty four percent of
Speaker 2: the vote if you split it up the right way.
Speaker 4: And that's why I'm so.
Speaker 2: Vocal about the lockout, because that's the pathway to victory.
Speaker 4: That's the lane.
Speaker 2: If you want to lose with dignity, that's fine. Make
Speaker 2: it an R versus a D matchup in November, and
Speaker 2: you will lose. I mean, let's just not lose our
Speaker 2: sanity here. The Democratic candidate in that scenario will win,
Speaker 2: but the Republicans won't be embarrassed because they will have
Speaker 2: a candidate on the November ballot. So you're not going
Speaker 2: to get criticism for not fielding a viable candidate that
Speaker 2: made it to the November ballot. However, as an Angel fan,
Speaker 2: let me tell you, losing with dignity is not the
Speaker 2: way to go.
Speaker 4: Because you still lose. What you want to do is
Speaker 4: you want to win, and that means you have to
Speaker 4: play to win, and you have to look at the
Speaker 4: at the rules as they stand.
Speaker 2: You have to look at the horses in the race,
Speaker 2: and you have to figure out how you can use
Speaker 2: the horses in the race and the rules on the
Speaker 2: books to give you the best chance at winning. And
Speaker 2: once you identify that, you got to run with it.
Speaker 2: And right now, for Republicans, that's the top two and
Speaker 2: that's it. And we can lie to ourselves and we
Speaker 2: can make ourselves think that our candidates will be more
Speaker 2: viable than they are, but that's not reality. One of
Speaker 2: the reasons that the Democrats lost the presidential election in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four was that they could not be honest
Speaker 2: with each other about Joe Biden's cognitive abilities. That man
Speaker 2: was demented and he had nothing but tapioca between his ears.
Speaker 2: But they all had to go on TV and tell
Speaker 2: us how in private, he's putting Rubik's cubes together and
Speaker 2: he's doing calculus, and he's speaking in Latin and he's
Speaker 2: doing all of this when they all knew it wasn't true.
Speaker 2: They didn't want to have the uncomfortable conversation. They didn't
Speaker 2: want to say unpleasant things to one another, and then
Speaker 2: they repeated those same mistakes with Kamala had they gone
Speaker 2: to an open convention, and they ended up with a
Speaker 2: more electable candidate. They might have won that election. We'll
Speaker 2: never know because it didn't happen. They lied to themselves
Speaker 2: and said that Kamala was electable and that she was
Speaker 2: brilliant and she was articulate and she's so smart and
Speaker 2: she's gonna woo the country and that just wasn't reality.
Speaker 2: It wasn't reality. Then it's not reality now. California Republicans
Speaker 2: need to have honest, difficult conversations with themselves right now.
Speaker 2: If there is an R versus D matchup in November,
Speaker 2: Republicans lose, probably by double digits. If you want to
Speaker 2: win this thing, now is your chance. Now is your opportunity.
Speaker 2: It's now or never. And this losing with dignity stuff,
Speaker 2: get over it. Stop thinking that way. If you think
Speaker 2: like a loser, that's what the result will be. Don't
Speaker 2: think how you want to lose. Try to find avenue
Speaker 2: to win. And I know people say, well Trump adores Hilton,
Speaker 2: so Trump wants us to get behind Hilton, and that
Speaker 2: way we have representation on the November ballot. Let me
Speaker 2: tell you something. Do you think Trump looks at situations
Speaker 2: and thinks, how do I lose with dignity? No, that's
Speaker 2: not how that man sees the world. He doesn't respect losers.
Speaker 2: He respects winners. So if you want to make him happy,
Speaker 2: who cares who he endorsed win the race, and then
Speaker 2: you'll impress him because we all know he respects winners.
Speaker 2: And trying to find out the best way to lose
Speaker 2: the election. That does nothing for you, because these elections.
Speaker 4: Are zero sum.
Speaker 2: He who wins takes the throne. He who lose ends
Speaker 2: up with nothing. That's how it works, all right. Let's
Speaker 2: go back to the phones and welcome Carol and Irvine. Carol, Hello,
Speaker 2: oh hi, I.
Speaker 10: Guess I will change my vote from Hilton to Dionco.
Speaker 10: But I remember that guy that you used to put
Speaker 10: on your site that would evaluate the other people, because
Speaker 10: I'm in that Katie Porter forty seven district. Of course
Speaker 10: he's not running, but we have Dave min And who
Speaker 10: they endorsed her. I haven't seen one darn thing in
Speaker 10: the forty seventh district.
Speaker 2: And that is that Central Orange County district. Will they
Speaker 2: changed it all around?
Speaker 4: That used to be.
Speaker 2: That used to be the one that Scott Ball ran
Speaker 2: in that included Huntington Beach, But then they put Huntington
Speaker 2: Beach in the Long Beach district, and so I think
Speaker 2: you're in a separate district from Huntington Beach. So I
Speaker 2: don't even know who's running in that district.
Speaker 10: That district is drawing to be you know, he's running
Speaker 10: for re election because you know Katie Porter was out,
Speaker 10: you know, running with Shift and I don't know it,
Speaker 10: says treasurer tax collector. We have Shultz and Redrook. So
Speaker 10: I have no idea. Should I just go for the
Speaker 10: counties treasure I don't know with the judges, I don't
Speaker 10: know the judges. But remember you used to put your
Speaker 10: this other guy on that would help with the judges
Speaker 10: and things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Craig Quey Craigquey dot com and he
Speaker 2: goes through and he analyzes all the judicial races.
Speaker 4: So check him out.
Speaker 3: H E y correct.
Speaker 2: And then if you're looking for endorsements that could help
Speaker 2: you with the other races I didn't include on my ballot,
Speaker 2: I would check out the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association.
Speaker 4: They usually do a.
Speaker 11: Pretty good job.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I've got their paper too. Okay, Well, let's okay,
Speaker 10: Thanks Seud, thank you for the call.
Speaker 2: Eight hundred two two two five two two two. Easy
Speaker 2: telephone number. What eight hundred two two two five two
Speaker 2: two two. Let's go to Lynn in Placentia.
Speaker 4: Lynn.
Speaker 12: Hello, Well, well, hello John, thank you so much for
Speaker 12: taking my call. I wanted to let you know that, uh,
Speaker 12: I have a daughter. I've been like you, going back
Speaker 12: and forth saying I really want to see both Chad
Speaker 12: Bianco and Steve Hilton on the ballot in November, so
Speaker 12: we are guaranteed a Republican, but I've also been worried
Speaker 12: about pulling too many votes away from Steve. And you know,
Speaker 12: if we vote for Chad. Now, here's an interesting little twist.
Speaker 12: My daughter always votes libertarian, and she sent me information
Speaker 12: that apparently the libertarian candidate has dropped out of the
Speaker 12: race and is urging his supporters to vote for Steve
Speaker 12: Hilton instead. And I said, well, there you go. That
Speaker 12: that means that my daughter's voting for Hilton, and I
Speaker 12: will vote for Bianco and then hope we pushed them
Speaker 12: both into the November ballot.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's also part of it too, because the
Speaker 2: polls show that Hilton is doing the best with independence,
Speaker 2: so whatever number he's at with Republicans, it's going to
Speaker 2: go up because he is the highest performing candidate Republican
Speaker 2: or Democrat among the independents.
Speaker 12: Yes, so that was, yeah, a good point. Thank you
Speaker 12: for saying that. But can I add a little aside
Speaker 12: that has nothing to do with the governor's race, but
Speaker 12: is political in Placentia. In Placentia, when they redrew those maps,
Speaker 12: Placentia's got something like fifty five thousand people. They carved
Speaker 12: us up into four separate congressional districts. So I'm in
Speaker 12: one across the street, our high school is in another.
Speaker 12: A couple of miles down the road, they're in still
Speaker 12: another district, and then the southwest part of the city
Speaker 12: is in still another district.
Speaker 11: Great.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was not very fair, to say the least.
Speaker 4: Thank you for the call.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Let's go to Amy and San Clemente.
Speaker 4: Amy.
Speaker 7: Hello, Hi John, how are you? Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 8: Definitely voted for Steve Hilden and I talked to my
Speaker 8: husband into voting for Chad because we need him both
Speaker 8: in there.
Speaker 7: I bought Steve book about six months ago. I barely
Speaker 7: knew who he was, and boy is that informative. Was
Speaker 7: the first three chapters We.
Speaker 13: Need him both in there and whatever you know we
Speaker 13: could do.
Speaker 7: I mean, there's too many Democrats that just obviously didn't
Speaker 7: watch the debate and don't care, and they'll just vote
Speaker 7: for because.
Speaker 4: They have a D in front of their names.
Speaker 7: So that's my comment.
Speaker 13: Let's keep our fingers crossed and get.
Speaker 11: The word out.
Speaker 4: All right, thank you for the call. Let's go to
Speaker 4: Tom and San Mateo.
Speaker 5: Tom, Hello, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 9: John.
Speaker 5: The key here is Republicans have to get out to
Speaker 5: vote vote for either Bianco or Hilton. If we get
Speaker 5: two Republicans in the top two, it means a lot
Speaker 5: of things are going to happen. There's a better chance
Speaker 5: that your voter idea is going to pass, it's going
Speaker 5: to be a better chance that the safe Prop thirteen
Speaker 5: is going to pass, and there's a better chance that
Speaker 5: Republicans will uh saves pick up seats and protect the
Speaker 5: ones they have. Now we have to get over the
Speaker 5: super majority that the Democrats hold, and our best chance
Speaker 5: is getting two Republicans in the top two.
Speaker 2: All right, Amen, thank you for the call, Sarah. Let's
Speaker 2: go to Steve and Newport Beach.
Speaker 11: Steve, Hello, Hey, John and Raby, you got the best
Speaker 11: show on the radio. It's great, Thank you. My idea
Speaker 11: is I agree with you. If we could get Republicans
Speaker 11: one two, that's the best way. But if it's Hilton
Speaker 11: and Bessarah, maybe we look at Bessara's legal issues sometime
Speaker 11: in the fall and throw the Democratic Party in disarray.
Speaker 2: If but Sarah is the Democrat, a lot of focus
Speaker 2: is going to be on the legal troubles involving his
Speaker 2: chief of staff and Dana Williamson and Bessara's involvement. I
Speaker 2: agree because either he was in on it, or he's
Speaker 2: the dumbest person on planet Earth and had no clue that.
Speaker 4: He was being rob blind, or both. Thank you for
Speaker 4: the call, sir. Let's go to Tom and San Jose. Tom.
Speaker 13: Hello, you sorry, going to take it off a speaker
Speaker 13: because I don't want any feedback here.
Speaker 5: John.
Speaker 13: It was very encouraging to hear some of these people's comments.
Speaker 13: I was having an issue. I'm working out here with
Speaker 13: a couple of people in a couple of groups of
Speaker 13: trying to do exactly what you were talking about. You
Speaker 13: actually gave us that idea. We were hoping to get
Speaker 13: a good vote turnout with the strong candidate and what
Speaker 13: you say makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 7: I don't know. I'm not going to try to say it.
Speaker 13: I would rather you say it because you're much more
Speaker 13: articulate about it.
Speaker 7: That's why you have a talk show and I don't.
Speaker 13: But it's not what people think. It's like, well, we
Speaker 13: could totally get it because this, you know, even though
Speaker 13: Chad Bianco's not popular, let's just go for the other guy.
Speaker 13: If we get everybody to go for the other guy.
Speaker 13: And it doesn't seem like they get it, even though
Speaker 13: you've explained it and I've tried to explain it, it
Speaker 13: doesn't seem like they seem to understand to get it.
Speaker 13: But these people that just called in were fantastic.
Speaker 7: They know exactly all right, Well.
Speaker 2: Thank you for the cost. We're out of time. The
Speaker 2: fix California hours next. Don't you go anywhere