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Speaker 1: And very happy Friday to you.

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Speaker 2: At twelve oh seven in the West, it's the John

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Speaker 2: Phillips Show, Mister Randy Wings in Culver City.

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Speaker 3: John California's Attorney General, Bob Bonta. Bob Bonta is finally

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Speaker 3: getting in on the hospice fraud game, announcing a massive bust. Yesterday,

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Speaker 3: he sat down with CBS News is Adam Yamagucci, armed

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Speaker 3: with the facts and of course a bucket full of cliches.

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Speaker 4: Well, well, I address frod is us doing the hard work,

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Speaker 4: heads down, sleeves, rolled up, doing the investigation, doing the arrests,

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Speaker 4: doing the prosecutions.

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Speaker 1: Boy, this guy has one speed, doesn't he.

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Speaker 4: Every type of leadership is about meeting the moment and

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Speaker 4: rising to the occasion. And this is what's required, and

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Speaker 4: so we're stepping up and getting it done.

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Speaker 2: You know what this reminds me of. What's that if

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Speaker 2: you have a kid and the bedroom is a complete disaster,

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Speaker 2: and you say, Okay, here's the deal. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: work and when I come back, this room better be spotless.

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Speaker 2: And if the room isn't spotless, your ass is on

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Speaker 2: the line. And then you go to work and you

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Speaker 2: come back and the room is a disaster, and you go,

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Speaker 2: what the hell happened to the room that was supposed

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Speaker 2: to be clean? And they go, I was just getting

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Speaker 2: to that. That was next on my list. And that's

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Speaker 2: essentially what he's saying about the fraud. It was those

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Speaker 2: in the media that uncovered it in the first place,

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Speaker 2: Nick Shirley in CBS News. They embarrassed everyone. It was

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Speaker 2: the FEDS that acted on it. The Feds had started

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Speaker 2: making arrests and they shamed Rob Bonta for not doing

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Speaker 2: his job.

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Speaker 1: And then Rob Bonta comes.

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Speaker 2: Out of the woodwork and goes, you guys are Johnny

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Speaker 2: come Lately's We've been working on this forever?

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Speaker 5: Who's Rob?

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Speaker 1: That's true? Stand corrected?

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Speaker 2: Bought Bonta eight hundred two two two five two two

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Speaker 2: two is the jellphone number one? Eight hundred two two

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Speaker 2: two five two two two. Well, we know that the

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Speaker 2: presumptive front runner on the Democratic side of the race

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Speaker 2: for the to see who will be California's next governor,

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Speaker 2: Eric Swawell, is in some hot water regarding allegations of

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Speaker 2: sexual harassment from women who worked in his office as

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Speaker 2: staffers and interns. People whose names have not been associated

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Speaker 2: with the claims. But there is an attorney, a Democratic attorney,

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Speaker 2: former candidate for office, who is the one that's leading

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Speaker 2: the charge, saying that she's talking to many of these women,

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Speaker 2: their stories are being vetted, and the clock is ticking

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Speaker 2: as to when these stories will be made open to

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Speaker 2: the public. There was massive speculation, including from yours truly,

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Speaker 2: that today would be the day that those stories dropped.

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Speaker 2: While the day is only halfway over. Those stories have

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Speaker 2: not dropped yet. But Randy, there is a lot of

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Speaker 2: movement going on regarding that story.

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Speaker 5: You cursed us by saying it was going to be today.

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Speaker 2: Whatever I tease ahead, that is the absolute kiss of death.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't matter if it's for a guest or a major

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Speaker 3: news story that's about to drop. Don't tease ahead anyway.

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Speaker 3: The attorney who is bringing forth the upcoming allegations is

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Speaker 3: Cheyenne Hunt, and she's the one that's been making all

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Speaker 3: by reporters as we speak. Well forty five minutes ago,

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Speaker 3: she posted the following I am reading from Chyenne Hunt's

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Speaker 3: Twitter account x at Cheyenne Hunt ca Eric Swalwell has

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Speaker 3: taken a page out of the Trump playbook by attempting

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Speaker 3: you're sending cease and desist letters, then you must know who.

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Speaker 1: The people are. It sounds like he does.

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Speaker 3: He sent this threat in the dead of night, another

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Speaker 2: Yes, he was supposed to be in Palm Desert with

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Speaker 3: Let me continue here. He sent this in the dead

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Speaker 3: It begs the question, if Swalwell has done nothing wrong,

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Speaker 3: We will not relent. The women will not recant. They

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Speaker 3: And then she attached the first page of a cease

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Speaker 1: Oh my, can you read the letter? Is the type

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Speaker 1: big enough?

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Speaker 3: I can try so they redact a couple of things

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Speaker 3: on here, But this comes from a law office debate.

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Speaker 3: Kelly in Los Angeles This law firm is litigation counsel

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Speaker 3: to Congressman Eric Swalwell. It has come to our attention

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Speaker 3: that you have made false statements accusing mister Swalwell of

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Speaker 2: Nope, she's only said sexual harassment. Yesterday on CNN, Katie

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Speaker 2: Porter said sexual assault. And that's the first time we've

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Speaker 6: You can smell it right here.

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Speaker 3: It has come to our attention that you have made

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Speaker 3: false statements accusing mister Swalwell of sexual assault and non

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Speaker 3: to know what that is.

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Speaker 2: Oh is there any way to get rid of that

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think we can do that.

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Speaker 3: We write to demand that you immediately and permanently cease

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Speaker 3: or otherwise. Mister Swallwell takes these accusations seriously, both because

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Speaker 3: they are false and because they are being injected into

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Speaker 3: California's gubernatorial race only twenty four days before the voters

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Speaker 3: under governing law. And then they quote a law it

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Speaker 3: That's page one of this cease and desist, And the

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Speaker 3: big takeaway from that one is it's Swalwell's attorneys claiming

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Speaker 3: something that we have heard because we haven't heard any

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Speaker 2: No, and we certainly haven't heard that word coming from

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Speaker 1: We've only heard it.

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Speaker 2: From Swalwell himself or I guess his attorney speaking on

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Speaker 3: Now, it is worth noting that Cheyenne Hunt is a

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Speaker 2: And then yesterday we learned from some of the victims

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Speaker 2: I believe it may have even been Cheyenne, that Swalwell

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Speaker 2: was also spending money on opposition research on the women.

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Speaker 2: So that means he's trying to find out if they've

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Speaker 2: bring out these allegations, we're going to try to destroy

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Speaker 3: Now it comes to the other candidates in this race,

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Speaker 3: the knives are out for Swalwell. Just a few minutes ago,

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Speaker 3: Brett Kevanaugh situation years ago, saying, maybe Eric Swalwell should

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Speaker 3: take Eric Swalwell's own advice. I will play that for

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Speaker 3: you right now off of Tony Thurman's Twitter. That's the

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Speaker 7: I saw a continued demeaning of victims.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is neither here nor there, but Swalwell's much

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he was doing orange theory back then.

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Speaker 7: Sexual assault people who deserve to be heard, who deserve

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Speaker 7: for the allegations to be investigated. For Brett Kavanaugh's sake,

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Speaker 7: statement and says, you know what, bring in all the victims,

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Speaker 7: allow them to be heard, allow them to be questioned.

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Speaker 7: That will clear his name. If he's indeed innocent, and

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Speaker 3: And that says Eric Swahwall gave advice to Brett Kavanaugh.

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Speaker 3: I hate typewriter's sound effects.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine that you're going to be able to

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Speaker 2: find similar statements about Donald Trump, similar statements about Jeffrey Epstein,

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Speaker 2: similar statements about any number of people who are in

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Speaker 2: the news. Where Eric Swalwell, like Galvin Newsom, believes that

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Speaker 3: Will he take that advice for himself? And that is

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Speaker 3: the video that Tony Thurman put out seven minutes ago. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so are you ready for my theory on why he's

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Speaker 3: doing this?

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Speaker 1: Please? I don't think he actually.

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Speaker 2: Believes he's going to intimidate these women out of coming forward,

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Speaker 2: because I think the old days of bullying the accusers,

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Speaker 1: In the old days, you could get away with that.

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Speaker 2: If it wasn't printed in the New York Times or

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Speaker 2: you could keep it out of those papers and you're fine.

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Speaker 2: You could continue your career without a scandal blowing it up.

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Speaker 2: But I think those days are over, in part because

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Speaker 6: This weekend. In San Diego, the California Republican Party is

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Speaker 6: Jenny, Well, if.

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Speaker 8: You remember In February, California Democrats had their endorsement convention.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and Betty He came in second.

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Speaker 5: Betty Yer came in second.

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Speaker 9: Winter Winter Chicken Dinner.

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Speaker 8: The big question now for Republicans, now that President Trump

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Speaker 10: Well, I didn't think it was very likely to begin with.

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Speaker 11: Now, I'm not sure it helps Republicans because they you know,

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Speaker 5: Not a whole lot of people thinking Trump for this endorsement.

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Speaker 2: No, because even though it was a small chance of

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Speaker 1: It's better than no chance.

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Speaker 2: And if there's a Democrat who's not Eric Swalwell with

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Speaker 11: I'm not sure it helps Republicans because they you know,

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Speaker 12: Nonetheless, ahead of the California Republican parties turning the Tide

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Speaker 7: It's a great honor and I very much appreciate it,

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Speaker 3: By the way, did you see that Hilton's campaign is

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Speaker 13: On the Republican side, kind of, I would say I

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Speaker 3: And he really thought that stunt with the seizing of

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Speaker 2: Here is what's so wild. This I do not understand.

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Speaker 2: That's a pipe dream. Stop thinking that way not going

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Speaker 2: We're pulling our hair out over here, worried that that's

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Speaker 5: It is the California Republican Party after all.

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Speaker 12: By Mary not so much in the general against a

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Speaker 11: That ends up hurting them because he's not going to

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Speaker 3: And by the way, all the people they're talking to

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Speaker 2: These are the most negative people on planet Earth. And

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Speaker 1: We just need to lose this way because we're used

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Speaker 5: It's the Senate race all over again.

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Speaker 2: zero dollars on homeless services as opposed to the billions

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Speaker 2: that we spend now. I also don't believe Republicans would

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Speaker 2: lose any more elections in California if they spent zero

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Speaker 2: dollars on consultants.

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Speaker 5: But that's a whole ecosystem.

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Speaker 3: This is how a ball, whole bunch of political hacks

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Speaker 3: make their living is by convincing people to spend money

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Speaker 3: on campaigns that they themselves believe they will lose.

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Speaker 2: You spend a fortune on some negative Nancy who's going

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Speaker 2: to tell you you're going to lose, and he's going to

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Speaker 2: tell you the easiest way to lose the election.

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Speaker 11: That ends up hurting him because he's not going to

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Speaker 11: win statewide, basically does the Democrats. So one of the

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Speaker 11: biggest favors.

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Speaker 12: Some Democratic opponents weigh in following a one stay candidate

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Speaker 12: four him at Sacramento to me having the president.

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Speaker 5: Under say it's Betty Yee.

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Speaker 2: And she's not wearing the gas mask because she's not

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Speaker 2: at the Tiajuana River.

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Speaker 6: You can smell it right here to me.

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Speaker 9: Having the President adors Steve Hilton, that's the juncture.

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Speaker 3: Now since the convention for the GOP is in San Diego,

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Speaker 3: do you think Hilton and Bianca are going to take

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Speaker 3: a trip down to the river only if they lose

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Speaker 3: a bed.

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Speaker 9: To me, having the President adors Steve Hilton, that's the juncture.

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Speaker 9: But he put some marker down in terms of you

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Speaker 9: know where mister Hilton support is going to come from

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Speaker 9: that the President wants to play in this race.

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Speaker 11: I imagine that in some ways this make.

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Speaker 5: Hey, that's Tony Thurman.

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Speaker 3: He was a recent guest on this show, and the

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Speaker 3: day after he had a poll that showed that he's

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Speaker 3: at zero percent.

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe after doing this show he'll be at one

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Speaker 2: or two. The Phillips bump.

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Speaker 11: I imagine that in some ways this may consolidate in

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Speaker 11: the Republican side of this campaign.

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Speaker 6: There will be one and that one will pay.

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Speaker 3: It's other recent guests of this show, mister Peanot.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, the Phillips bump is usually associated

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Speaker 2: with doing drugs with the Mamas and the papas.

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Speaker 6: There will be one, and that one will probably lead

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Speaker 6: in the race. Remember I said that to you.

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Speaker 12: The big question heading into the weekend is the party

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Speaker 12: going to unite? Republican strategist Tim Roselle says, for now, it's.

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Speaker 3: You know, the California Republicans can really take a note

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Speaker 3: from the California Democrats. You all might want to be

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Speaker 3: a little more delulu.

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Speaker 2: Well, all they need to do is divide by two.

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Speaker 2: Take all of your people, divide them by two, give

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Speaker 2: half to Hilton, get half to Bianco, and that gives

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Speaker 2: you the best opportunity at winning.

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Speaker 5: So what do you do for that?

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Speaker 3: Do you do like the gas shortage in the seventies,

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Speaker 3: where if you have an even numbered address, you vote

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Speaker 3: for Hilton and if it's an odd number, you vote

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Speaker 3: for Bianco.

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Speaker 1: Now that's the way to think.

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Speaker 12: The big question heading into the weekend is the party

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Speaker 12: going to unite? Republican strategist Tim Rosale says, for now,

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Speaker 12: it's still a draw.

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Speaker 10: If Steve Hilton does get is able to kind of

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Speaker 10: patch together enough support to get the endorsement from the

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Speaker 10: California Republican Party, I think it speaks to the president's

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Speaker 10: power in terms of what that endorsement means.

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Speaker 12: But the implications are larger.

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Speaker 11: Republicans need to do some soul searching. They have to

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Speaker 11: figure out what they want to be. Do they want

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Speaker 11: to be the Party of Trump? Does that hurt them

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Speaker 11: in California? I think it does.

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Speaker 8: Featured convention speakers include Texas Senators Ted Cruz.

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Speaker 3: Boy, he needed another beach vacation, didn't he?

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Speaker 8: Ted Cruz California legislators, as well as Congressman darryl Isa,

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Speaker 8: who was retiring after his longtime district was redrawn as

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Speaker 8: a result of Proposition fifty.

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Speaker 3: I get my ices speaking. Why is Ted Cruz coming?

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Speaker 2: They need some kind of name that people have heard

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Speaker 2: of so they can sell tickets to the Rubber Chicken dinner.

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Speaker 2: Because if you're selling tickets to the Rubber Chicken dinner

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Speaker 2: and it's someone you've seen nine million times, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: skip the rubber Chicken dinner and you're going to go

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Speaker 2: to some fantastic restaurant in the gas lamp. I mean,

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Speaker 2: how bad of a look is it, though, for the

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Speaker 2: California Republican Party to say the biggest name that we

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Speaker 2: can get in California politics is a Senator from Texas. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's only because Dean Kine wasn't available.

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Speaker 8: The ability of Republicans to win those down ballot races

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Speaker 8: will also be top of mind. Chris Laura.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Jinny, thank you, there you go. It's going on

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Speaker 3: in San Diego this weekend. Get your tickets early so

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Speaker 3: you can see Ted Cruz.

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred two two two five two two two. Easy

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Speaker 2: telephone number one eight hundred two to two five two two

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Speaker 2: two if you'd like to email the show you new

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Speaker 2: so at Johnny don't like show at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: That's Johnny, don't like show at gmail dot com. As

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Speaker 2: we mentioned before, California Attorney General Bob Bonta and is

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Speaker 2: bucket full of cliches or back in the news Bob Bonta.

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Speaker 3: Bob Bonta made a big bust when it comes to

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Speaker 3: hospice fraud in Los Angeles County, and CBS News was

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Speaker 3: there in their continuing investigation into all this hospice fraud that,

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Speaker 3: of course, let's not forget includes hundreds of licensed businesses

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Speaker 3: that got licenses from the Secretary of State's office that

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Speaker 3: the California State audits have shown that there are several

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Speaker 3: red flags of how many of these businesses are fraudulent

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Speaker 3: and in that one building in Van Eyes, at least

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Speaker 3: half of them look like they have those red flags.

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Speaker 3: But hey, credit where credits due. Bobby made a big

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Speaker 3: bust Bob Bonta.

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Speaker 1: After he was shamed into it.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I'm all for it. I love this.

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Speaker 3: Let's all outdo each other on how much fraud we

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Speaker 3: can go after.

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Speaker 5: That's great.

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Speaker 3: For more, here's CBS News and Adam ram Yamagucci.

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Speaker 14: An update tonight in our CBS News investigation into hospice

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Speaker 14: fraud in southern California. Our team was the first to

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Speaker 14: report charges filed against more than twenty suspects in what's

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Speaker 14: described as a two hundred and sixty seven million dollar

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Speaker 14: fraud case with zero legitimate patience.

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Speaker 1: You know what this reminds me of.

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Speaker 2: What's that if you are in a totalitarian state and

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Speaker 2: you want to tell the rest of the world that

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Speaker 2: you're actually a democracy, they don't know the proper way

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Speaker 2: to steal an election. It's like when Lyndon Johnson won

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Speaker 2: his first seat in the US Senate and he stuffed

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Speaker 2: the ballot boxes. He went by just a handful of

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Speaker 2: votes and then them landslide Linden. He stole the election

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Speaker 2: by just a few. When they steal an election in

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Speaker 2: North Korea or in Iraq when Saddam Hussein was there,

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Speaker 2: the results that they published are always ninety nine point

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Speaker 2: nine zero zero zero point one. That's always what they publish.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to steal something, make it look close.

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of believable. If you're going to operate

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Speaker 2: this number of fraudulent hospice care facilities, wouldn't you want

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Speaker 2: to have at least a couple of legit patients so

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Speaker 2: you can point to something.

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Speaker 5: Oh wait till you hear how this whole scam worked.

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Speaker 14: Here's CBS News correspondent Adam I a'm agucci.

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Speaker 6: CBS News obtained exclusive body camera footage showing California Department

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Speaker 6: of Justice officers reading ten homes and offices in a

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Speaker 6: crackdown of suspected hospice frauds. State Attorney General Rob Bonta

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Speaker 6: says they've charged.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, Adam not his name.

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Speaker 6: State Attorney General bought Bonta.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 6: Bonta says they've charged twenty one suspects.

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Speaker 4: Well, I addressed rod is us doing the hard work.

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Speaker 4: Heads down, sleeves rolled up.

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Speaker 1: Boy, this guy really does have one speed.

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Speaker 4: Doing the investigation, doing the arrests, doing the prosecutions.

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Speaker 6: Here's how Bonta describes the alleged scheme. The suspects purchased

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Speaker 6: personal information from the dark web used it to enroll

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Speaker 6: in California's state run MEDICID program.

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Speaker 3: You might be enrolled in hospice right now and have

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Speaker 3: no idea.

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Speaker 1: And I thought I was healthy.

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Speaker 3: You know, when you here, when you get one of

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Speaker 3: those letters in the mail from Target or some kind

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Speaker 3: of retailer that says, oh, all your information got linked

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Speaker 3: to the dark web, you might think, Okay, maybe they're

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Speaker 3: going to try to apply for a credit card in

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Speaker 3: my name that is so old and there are so

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Speaker 3: many protections against that.

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Speaker 5: That's not what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: If someone has stolen your so securecurity number, they're doing

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Speaker 3: one of two things. Both of these are things we

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Speaker 3: found out thanks to CBS News. They're applying for Medicare

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Speaker 3: reimbursements through things like hospice, where there's a very low

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Speaker 3: proof of burden to show what they're doing. Or they're

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Speaker 3: applying to be an uber driver in your name.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you, if I'm enrolled in hospice,

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Speaker 2: I certainly wouldn't have eaten the turkey sandwich for lunch.

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Speaker 2: I would have had something a lot tastier and a

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Speaker 2: lot unhealthier.

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Speaker 6: The suspects purchased personal information from the dark web, used

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Speaker 6: it to enroll in California's state run MEDICID program, then

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Speaker 6: used fourteen hospice companies to build a government for this

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Speaker 6: phantom care.

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Speaker 3: I wonder how many of those fourteen companies were in

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Speaker 3: that one building in Van Eys, Probably every single one

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Speaker 3: of them.

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Speaker 6: All of it coming from taxpayers.

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Speaker 4: There were no actual services, no hospice centers.

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Speaker 6: For months, CBS News.

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Speaker 3: And all fourteen of those businesses got licenses from Shirley Weber.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Shirley.

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Speaker 6: For months, CBS News has been uncovering signs of potential

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Speaker 6: hospice fraud. We found one doctor's name and claims from

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Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty six hospices. He wouldn't speak with

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Speaker 6: US Medicare chief doctor memet Oz announced on social media

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Speaker 6: they revoked that doctor's ability to build a system. It's

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Speaker 6: become a political flashpoint with Democrats and Republicans trading blame

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Speaker 6: even as state and federal officials try to work together.

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Speaker 3: It is a challenging time between some states like California

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Speaker 3: and our federal partners.

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Speaker 6: We remain committed to partnership CBS News.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we should all be on the same team.

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Speaker 3: The fraudsters are the bad guys.

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Speaker 2: But don't forget when this was first uncovered by Nick

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Speaker 2: Shirley and then CBS News, what did Newsom's office do?

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Speaker 2: Immediately they started attacking the entities that we're exposing it.

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Speaker 6: CBS News has learned those officials are now working through

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Speaker 6: three hundred open investigations in California. Adamyamagucci, CBS News, Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: There you go, Bob Banta did make a big bust

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Speaker 3: in hospice fraud.

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Speaker 2: The fix California. Hours next, don't you go anywhere